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She was murdered.
She's pissed.
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You're having experiences
with this woman.
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I'm afraid I'm going
to lose my son.
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I'm truly afraid for his life.
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I see arms coming out
from under the bed.
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He grabbed a 6-inch kitchen
knife, cuts her throat.
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I saw him
smothering you.
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Is this **** real?
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If she kills the person,
then she can take the body.
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And I just feel fear.
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My name is Amy Allan.
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This is like Grand Central
Station for the dead.
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I see dead people.
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They have pain
that they suffered.
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I speak to dead people.
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She hates them, hates them.
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And they speak to me.
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But there's only one way to
know if my findings are real.
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It's a demon.
It's Satan.
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I rely on my partner.
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I'm Steve Di Schiavi.
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I'm a retired New York City
homicide detective.
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What was the body count?
What happened?
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And I know every person,
every house has secrets.
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I don't know if
it's a demon or not,
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but it sure as hell
looks like one.
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It's my job to reveal them.
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I feel like I'm crazy.
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But Steve and I
never speak...
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We never communicate
during an investigation.
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...until the very end...
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I don't even want
to show you this.
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...when we uncover if it's
safe for you to stay...
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I just don't want anything
to happen to my mother.
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...or time to get out.
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You have to get out.
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So, I'm down here
in Davie, Florida.
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It's an Everglades town
just outside of Ft. Lauderdale.
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I got a call from a young lady
named Christa.
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Now, she's a Reiki master,
but she hasn't been able to do
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anything about
the violent paranormal attacks
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at her family's house.
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She says everyone's
been affected,
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and if Amy and I can't find
a way to stop it,
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someone is going
to get seriously hurt.
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Before Amy arrives, I look
for any leading information.
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The house and R.V.
on this property
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have a lot of artwork...
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and religious symbols,
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so I have to be careful
to cover or remove them all.
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When I'm finished,
tonight's walk can begin.
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Too much death
in this little place,
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and I get absolute hate.
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And then I got that
incredible sadness and loss.
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There's some kind of religion
here, but nothing really solid.
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And then I heard witchcraft,
and a voice says,
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"Don't go in there."
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So, Christa,
when we spoke on the phone,
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it sounded like things
are starting to get
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really out of hand here.
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So, what's going on?
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We have so much
paranormal activity,
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I don't really know
where to start.
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I just know that whatever
is here
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I'm pretty sure could end up
killing one of us.
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So, it's that bad?
It's that bad.
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You mentioned this is your mom
and dad's house,
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but who all lives here?
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I have a picture here.
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So, there's my mom, my dad, me,
my brother Michael,
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his fiancée, Kara.
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Okay, so, everybody's
in the house?
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The three of us, my mom, my dad
and me, live in the house,
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and Michael and his fiancée live
in the mobile home on the side.
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You guys are
adults now.
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Why don't you guys
just get your own place?
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I don't feel comfortable
leaving my parents
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to deal with this
on their own.
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We're going to
fight this.
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We're going to
fight it together.
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So, how do you think everybody
would react
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to advice
that you should move.
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I think my mom,
in particular,
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would be
completely devastated
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because this is
our dream property.
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All right.
As far as experiences,
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what are we talking about?
What's going on?
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we hear voices,
objects move on their own,
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we see shadow figures,
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we have nightmares, and
the health issues are constant.
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You got roosters here.
You got goats, birds.
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Any of the animals getting
affected by the paranormal?
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Yeah, absolutely.
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We just got a new dog,
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and she'll stand at the base
of the hallway and stare,
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and she'll start barking
like something just grabbed her.
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All right.
I understand you're a Reiki...
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Reiki master.
...master.
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What led you
to doing that?
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When I was younger,
I had stage four neuroblastoma,
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which is
a childhood cancer,
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and I had a very low percentage
of survival rate,
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and that ultimately
led to me
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looking into energies
and the paranormal,
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which all brought me
to Reiki
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and the clearing
of energies.
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In the past,
Amy has told clients
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to bring in a Reiki master
to clear the house.
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Have you done anything
with your abilities?
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I've done everything
that I've been trained to do.
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If they work,
it's maybe a couple days,
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and then it just comes
right back with an extra punch.
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How are you holding up,
dealing with this?
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I'm not doing well.
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Um...I'm
really afraid of losing them...
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more now than ever.
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It's reached a height,
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and I don't want it
to go any farther.
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You okay?
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I'm hoping I will be soon.
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I'm seeing this elderly woman.
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She looks like a rotted corpse.
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She has two lights for eyes
and ratty hair.
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She's...
very loud, aggressive.
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She's like, "Look at me.
I'm here."
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She wants to be, like,
the center of attention.
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I feel like there's multiple
people being affected by her
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because she wants
that attention.
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She wants it from everybody,
but living here would have
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a lot of difficulties
with this person.
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She storms around
this **** place.
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Living people would hear her
yelling a lot.
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It doesn't sound like
a language I know.
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Like, it sounds like gibberish.
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I think that she makes living
people feel very stressed-out.
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She, like, puts her mind
in the living people's minds,
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and it's like
they don't even know
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what the ****
they're thinking about
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because it makes
no **** sense
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because her brain
is all over the **** map.
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So, Christa,
what's going on in here?
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We're having a lot
of crippling anxiety,
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depression that comes
out of nowhere,
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and a lot of brain fog.
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Feel like you can't figure out
what you want to say.
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Do those type of things
happen while you're away,
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or it's only
when you're home.
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Only when we're home.
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Okay, so, is there
anything else going on?
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We're also
hearing voices.
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Okay, so, the voices
that you hear,
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what do they sound
like to you?
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It's just where you can't
understand what they're saying,
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so it's like they're
trying to relay a message,
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but you can't figure out
what it is.
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Okay.
Anything else?
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Yeah. I see what looks like
my mom walking by the window,
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and I get up to greet her,
and there's nobody there.
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So, I don't know
if it's something
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that's trying
to purposely look like her.
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Either way,
it terrifies me.
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Okay.
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The elderly woman
comes storming.
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She's yelling all the time.
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I don't even know how they even
stay in this house
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because...
she's freaking me out.
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I think that they might see her,
like, a little figure.
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She just hates everything.
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She hates everybody.
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She definitely would like
to be alive again.
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That's not a good thing.
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Why?
What is it?
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Because that means
that she might be trying
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to jump somebody
or possess somebody.
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I do see her putting her hand
over a living person's mouth,
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and I do see her
getting right up there.
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Okay, so,
what's going on in here?
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I was laying awake in bed,
trying to sleep,
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and something
held me down.
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You sure
it couldn't have been
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some kind of temporary paralysis
or anything?
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I know I was awake.
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I physically couldn't move
'cause it felt like
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there was something
over my entire body.
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So, you're being
held down in bed.
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Anybody else in the family
have a problem like that?
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I know that my dad
and my brother have both
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had that happen
for them, as well.
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All right, so,
has anything else happened?
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So, the other thing
is nightmares, constantly.
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One of the ones that was
most difficult for me to have
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was one
where my brother died,
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um, and it was so graphic.
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Okay.
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The part that I do remember
is that he was
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in the bottom of the pool,
and he drowned.
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Okay.
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And I got up sobbing
because it seemed so real.
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All right.
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I'm truly afraid
for his life.
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Okay. All right.
Anything else in this room?
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Um...yes.
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I physically feel like there's
something attached to me.
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What do you think
that is?
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While I'm sleeping, like,
maybe it enters into my brain
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and causes
the nightmares
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and then sticks with me
throughout the day.
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So, almost like
a temporary possession?
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Right. So, it's like
it's trying to cause
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as much mental anguish
and misery as it can.
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What are you hoping
we can do for you?
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Anything that you guys can
help us with, we'll take it.
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Okay.
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Old lady comes in here to work.
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What do you mean,
"work"?
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To try
to kill this person.
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This is the person
that she's doing
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that weird
**** thing to.
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So, is this the jumping
you were talking about earlier?
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Yes.
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And what would be
their experience of that?
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That feeling of being held
down in bed.
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She's waking up,
startled.
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Do you have any idea why
she's doing this to this person?
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Because she wants
to be alive again.
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I guess she thinks
that if she kills the person
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and takes their soul,
she can take the body.
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So, Mike, I was talking
to Christa earlier,
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obviously, and she feels
that whatever is here
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is dangerous and pretty much has
the potential to kill somebody.
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I mean, what's
your feelings on it?
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Yes. I wasn't a believer,
but I am now. Yeah.
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So, what happened
that changed your mind?
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I've seen apparitions.
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Okay, so, when you say
you see apparitions,
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what are
we talking about?
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And I look over,
and this guy's standing there,
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looks at me, turns, and
goes right through the window.
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Now, was this something
where you saw facial features,
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or just
a shadow of it.
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No, I saw, like,
total facial features,
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his jacket, hat,
and a grey beard.
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And you're sure
you weren't dreaming? I am.
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Okay. All right.
Anything else?
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Any time at night,
even with the light on,
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I feel watched.
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My bedroom is
nonstop.
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I mean, you got
three dogs, right? Yes.
249
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Are you positive
it's not the dogs?
250
00:12:05,525 --> 00:12:07,058
100% because
when we're sleeping,
251
00:12:07,060 --> 00:12:09,327
they have two beds on the other
side of the master bedroom.
252
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They never leave it.
253
00:12:11,264 --> 00:12:12,931
All right, so,
has anything else happened?
254
00:12:12,933 --> 00:12:14,999
One night, where Michelle and I
were laying in bed,
255
00:12:15,001 --> 00:12:18,002
I literally felt
something grab my side
256
00:12:18,004 --> 00:12:19,537
almost like it's trying
to push me out of the way
257
00:12:19,539 --> 00:12:21,606
to sit down
on the bed.
258
00:12:21,608 --> 00:12:24,142
I feel like there's
20 people tugging at me.
259
00:12:24,144 --> 00:12:25,877
I mean, that's got
to be miserable.
260
00:12:25,879 --> 00:12:27,278
It's tough for me,
you know?
261
00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:29,948
I'm all about protecting
and taking care of.
262
00:12:29,950 --> 00:12:32,349
That's the way I was raised,
and I can't do that here
263
00:12:32,351 --> 00:12:34,819
because I don't know
what I'm protecting against.
264
00:12:38,558 --> 00:12:42,360
This dead lady, she's doing
some weird **** in here.
265
00:12:42,362 --> 00:12:49,967
She is very focused
on a male in here,
266
00:12:49,969 --> 00:12:53,371
but it's weird 'cause I think
she likes this person,
267
00:12:53,373 --> 00:12:55,773
wants a lot of attention
from this person.
268
00:12:55,775 --> 00:12:58,309
You have any idea
what it is about them?
269
00:12:58,311 --> 00:13:00,245
She just has the hots
for the person.
270
00:13:00,247 --> 00:13:01,846
I don't know.
271
00:13:01,848 --> 00:13:04,182
Like, "Okay.
I'm going to touch your face."
272
00:13:04,184 --> 00:13:07,718
Like, "I'm going to, like,
okay, your eyebrows.
273
00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:10,121
Okay, your eyebrows.
What's your ear doing?"
274
00:13:10,123 --> 00:13:14,458
Like, it's **** weird.
275
00:13:14,460 --> 00:13:15,726
And, like,
there's nights
276
00:13:15,728 --> 00:13:19,731
she will do this
all ****...night...long.
277
00:13:19,733 --> 00:13:21,332
It's, like, constant.
278
00:13:21,334 --> 00:13:23,801
My God!
279
00:13:23,803 --> 00:13:28,672
Definitely feel like they're
being touched, like, a lot.
280
00:13:28,674 --> 00:13:32,811
She takes showers
with them.
281
00:13:32,813 --> 00:13:37,148
Like, she doesn't
leave their side
282
00:13:37,150 --> 00:13:39,217
unless they're out of the house.
283
00:13:39,219 --> 00:13:42,486
They would have dreams
about her,
284
00:13:42,488 --> 00:13:46,357
and I'm quite certain
that they're scared to death.
285
00:13:52,899 --> 00:13:55,967
So, Michelle, as far as
experiences, have you had any?
286
00:13:55,969 --> 00:13:59,304
Yes, I felt somebody
sit on the bed,
287
00:13:59,306 --> 00:14:02,040
and then touch me like
it was Michael.
288
00:14:02,042 --> 00:14:04,375
And, so, I looked around,
thinking maybe I fell asleep
289
00:14:04,377 --> 00:14:07,178
and he came in,
and he was nowhere to be found.
290
00:14:07,180 --> 00:14:10,181
And he's had that experience,
where something has touched him.
291
00:14:10,183 --> 00:14:11,582
He actually,
when I spoke to Michael,
292
00:14:11,584 --> 00:14:13,384
he mentioned that
to me.
293
00:14:13,386 --> 00:14:15,052
Did it feel
inappropriate at all?
294
00:14:15,054 --> 00:14:16,921
Michael's seemed to be
inappropriate.
295
00:14:16,923 --> 00:14:19,791
Mine almost seemed
to be loving.
296
00:14:19,793 --> 00:14:21,793
Okay.
297
00:14:21,795 --> 00:14:23,995
The little old lady,
298
00:14:23,997 --> 00:14:26,463
she's little
but she's quite something.
299
00:14:26,465 --> 00:14:28,867
I tell you.
I think that she doesn't like
300
00:14:28,869 --> 00:14:32,337
the other person in here
very much.
301
00:14:32,339 --> 00:14:35,873
The touching and the hovering,
like, she's, like,
302
00:14:35,875 --> 00:14:38,543
constantly trying
to be, like,
303
00:14:38,545 --> 00:14:41,879
"I'm here. I'm here.
I'm here. I'm here."
304
00:14:41,881 --> 00:14:43,414
Like, smothering.
305
00:14:43,416 --> 00:14:46,484
I think that
they would have, obviously,
306
00:14:46,486 --> 00:14:49,220
horrible issues sleeping.
307
00:14:49,222 --> 00:14:56,628
I can't even express how
insanely annoying this is.
308
00:14:56,963 --> 00:14:58,963
Christa is really worried
about her brother, Michael.
309
00:14:58,965 --> 00:15:01,632
How about you?
Have you noticed any changes?
310
00:15:01,634 --> 00:15:05,035
Yeah, he's
withdrawn, moody.
311
00:15:05,037 --> 00:15:08,105
It's like something is sucking
the life out of him.
312
00:15:08,107 --> 00:15:10,040
I mean, am I going to be able
to talk to him over there?
313
00:15:10,042 --> 00:15:11,375
To be honest, Steve,
314
00:15:11,377 --> 00:15:12,710
I don't know what's
going on with him right now,
315
00:15:12,712 --> 00:15:16,447
but he --
he can't do it.
316
00:15:16,449 --> 00:15:20,584
All right,
since I can't talk to him,
317
00:15:20,586 --> 00:15:22,719
you know about
any experiences he had?
318
00:15:22,721 --> 00:15:26,190
Yeah, he's been held down
in the back bedroom.
319
00:15:26,192 --> 00:15:27,858
That was his room,
and that's when I started
320
00:15:27,860 --> 00:15:30,060
noticing the changes
in him.
321
00:15:30,062 --> 00:15:31,929
Okay, so,
anything else?
322
00:15:31,931 --> 00:15:37,868
His overall behavior has
just become very dark,
323
00:15:37,870 --> 00:15:41,872
depressed...
324
00:15:41,874 --> 00:15:45,475
and I'm afraid
I'm going to lose my son.
325
00:15:45,477 --> 00:15:48,412
We'll do our best to make sure
that doesn't happen, okay?
326
00:15:51,950 --> 00:15:53,683
There's sadness.
327
00:15:53,685 --> 00:15:55,085
My God.
328
00:15:57,356 --> 00:15:58,755
I don't like it
in here.
329
00:15:58,757 --> 00:16:00,290
Mnh-mnh. No. No. No. No.
330
00:16:00,292 --> 00:16:03,960
Just feel like you want
to just start bawling in here,
331
00:16:03,962 --> 00:16:06,563
crying, like,
wretched crying.
332
00:16:06,565 --> 00:16:08,231
I don't know if the dead
are crying
333
00:16:08,233 --> 00:16:10,767
or if the living
is crying, actually.
334
00:16:10,769 --> 00:16:12,770
I don't know.
335
00:16:12,772 --> 00:16:15,906
Overwhelming depression.
336
00:16:15,908 --> 00:16:20,510
This person, I feel, is,
like, an empath big-time.
337
00:16:20,512 --> 00:16:22,913
The old lady,
she's getting physical.
338
00:16:22,915 --> 00:16:27,117
I want to say that she's getting
physical with his person.
339
00:16:27,119 --> 00:16:30,254
She's hitting him
in the stomach.
340
00:16:30,256 --> 00:16:33,323
She's, like, beating
on this **** person.
341
00:16:33,325 --> 00:16:36,126
I think tripping them
and hitting them.
342
00:16:36,128 --> 00:16:45,201
I think that she's having very
much fun with torture here.
343
00:16:45,203 --> 00:16:47,471
This person is an empath.
344
00:16:47,473 --> 00:16:49,272
It's just sucking it all in.
345
00:16:49,274 --> 00:16:52,609
The person in here
needs help ASAP.
346
00:17:13,099 --> 00:17:15,833
All right, so, Christa and
her family complain about things
347
00:17:15,835 --> 00:17:18,368
grabbing at them
and touching them in bed.
348
00:17:18,370 --> 00:17:19,703
They think it's paranormal,
349
00:17:19,705 --> 00:17:22,506
but they practically live
in a frigging swamp,
350
00:17:22,508 --> 00:17:23,907
so I'm going back to the house
351
00:17:23,909 --> 00:17:26,309
to meet a couple
of animal-control experts
352
00:17:26,311 --> 00:17:27,778
to see whether
some of the wildlife
353
00:17:27,780 --> 00:17:29,646
is making their way inside.
354
00:17:34,453 --> 00:17:36,319
All right, so, guys,
I appreciate you helping me out.
355
00:17:36,321 --> 00:17:37,854
My clients here
have been complaining
356
00:17:37,856 --> 00:17:39,323
about getting grabbed.
357
00:17:39,325 --> 00:17:41,191
I live in Florida,
so I know
358
00:17:41,193 --> 00:17:42,992
there's a lot
of wildlife out here.
359
00:17:42,994 --> 00:17:44,728
I'm wondering maybe if
it's something like that.
360
00:17:44,730 --> 00:17:47,598
Yeah, there's a lot
of different invasive species
361
00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:48,799
as well
as the natives.
362
00:17:48,801 --> 00:17:52,269
You've got everything
from pythons to monkeys.
363
00:17:52,271 --> 00:17:54,204
Raccoons, possums,
squirrels, rats --
364
00:17:54,206 --> 00:17:56,006
all that are going to
make noises in the home.
365
00:17:56,008 --> 00:17:57,007
Okay, you know what?
366
00:17:57,009 --> 00:17:58,275
Now, that brings me
to another point.
367
00:17:58,277 --> 00:18:00,611
They got roosters,
chickens, and goats.
368
00:18:00,613 --> 00:18:02,880
That's definitely going to draw
more traffic to this home,
369
00:18:02,882 --> 00:18:04,414
opposed to
a neighbor's home.
370
00:18:04,416 --> 00:18:06,016
So, if you could give it
a good once-over
371
00:18:06,018 --> 00:18:07,684
and let me know what you find,
I'd appreciate it.
372
00:18:07,686 --> 00:18:09,886
All right, we'll grab our gear,
and we'll get right on it.
373
00:18:09,888 --> 00:18:11,888
Excellent. Thank you.
Awesome. Yes, sir. Thank you.
374
00:18:14,894 --> 00:18:17,627
You never know what Amy's
going to find during her walk,
375
00:18:17,629 --> 00:18:20,230
but it's my job to rule out
the obvious first.
376
00:18:20,232 --> 00:18:21,498
We are in the Everglades,
377
00:18:21,500 --> 00:18:23,900
so if there's wildlife
sneaking into the house,
378
00:18:23,902 --> 00:18:25,835
it could explain what Christa
and her family
379
00:18:25,837 --> 00:18:28,171
are going through.
380
00:18:28,173 --> 00:18:31,574
If that's the case,
we get rid of what's in there,
381
00:18:31,576 --> 00:18:34,978
and the family could
finally sleep at night.
382
00:18:34,980 --> 00:18:37,046
So, what's up, guys?
383
00:18:37,048 --> 00:18:39,516
Well, it went pretty well.
We found a lot of sign
384
00:18:39,518 --> 00:18:42,319
of rodent activity in the attic
as well as on the roof.
385
00:18:42,321 --> 00:18:45,055
However, I really don't think
that that's what your customers
386
00:18:45,057 --> 00:18:46,789
are really
experiencing.
387
00:18:46,791 --> 00:18:48,191
Okay,
but these rodents,
388
00:18:48,193 --> 00:18:50,594
could they be coming down
into the bedrooms?
389
00:18:50,596 --> 00:18:51,862
I don't believe so.
390
00:18:51,864 --> 00:18:53,464
Okay. Well, gentlemen,
thank you very much.
391
00:18:53,466 --> 00:18:54,664
I appreciate you
taking the time.
392
00:18:54,666 --> 00:18:56,733
Appreciate your help.
Yeah, have a great one.
393
00:18:56,735 --> 00:18:58,468
You, too.
394
00:19:00,806 --> 00:19:02,673
I was shown this bed,
395
00:19:02,675 --> 00:19:07,811
and I see arms coming out
from under the bed.
396
00:19:11,516 --> 00:19:13,216
Something grabbed my ankle,
397
00:19:13,218 --> 00:19:17,620
and, so, I believe that people
may have that experience here
398
00:19:17,622 --> 00:19:20,090
where something is
grabbing their ankles
399
00:19:20,092 --> 00:19:21,825
and making the fall.
400
00:19:21,827 --> 00:19:23,493
If you were to move this bed,
401
00:19:23,495 --> 00:19:27,297
there's, like,
a nice little hole there.
402
00:19:30,636 --> 00:19:32,569
The elderly woman,
she goes under the bed,
403
00:19:32,571 --> 00:19:36,373
and she doesn't want me
to see this.
404
00:19:39,578 --> 00:19:41,044
So, I made my usual calls
405
00:19:41,046 --> 00:19:43,313
and just heard back
from a genealogist --
406
00:19:43,315 --> 00:19:45,649
says he found something
that'll help my case.
407
00:19:45,651 --> 00:19:47,918
So, it turns out the original
owner of the land
408
00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:50,253
was a high-roller
who loved easy money,
409
00:19:50,255 --> 00:19:53,523
gambling, and beautiful women,
but when his luck ran out,
410
00:19:53,525 --> 00:19:55,725
he got himself in big trouble
with the law.
411
00:20:01,733 --> 00:20:05,468
This isn't the way my interviews
with genealogists usually go.
412
00:20:05,470 --> 00:20:07,670
So, Mark, you mentioned
on the phone this guy
413
00:20:07,672 --> 00:20:09,606
that owned my clients' property
was somewhat of a big shot.
414
00:20:09,608 --> 00:20:11,008
What do we know
about him?
415
00:20:11,010 --> 00:20:13,210
The guy's name
was Richard J. Bulls,
416
00:20:13,212 --> 00:20:15,479
and he was
pretty well liked --
417
00:20:15,481 --> 00:20:19,883
charismatic guy
and kind of a ladies' guy.
418
00:20:19,885 --> 00:20:21,150
So, what else do we know
about this guy?
419
00:20:21,152 --> 00:20:23,554
He was short,
maybe 5'6".
420
00:20:23,556 --> 00:20:26,957
In fact, he was known
as the Napoleon of Finance.
421
00:20:26,959 --> 00:20:28,025
So, this guy was
in finance?
422
00:20:28,027 --> 00:20:29,293
I assume that how
he made his money.
423
00:20:29,295 --> 00:20:31,427
Yeah, at 23,
he already had a seat
424
00:20:31,429 --> 00:20:33,363
on the New York
Stock Exchange,
425
00:20:33,365 --> 00:20:36,099
and he married his wife
at the same time, Julia.
426
00:20:36,101 --> 00:20:38,502
But, unfortunately,
things went bad for him,
427
00:20:38,504 --> 00:20:41,104
and he started
going broke.
428
00:20:41,106 --> 00:20:42,772
How does he wind up going broke?
What happened?
429
00:20:42,774 --> 00:20:44,307
Well, he has some
extramarital affairs,
430
00:20:44,309 --> 00:20:46,643
which, of course,
led to a divorce, naturally.
431
00:20:46,645 --> 00:20:49,946
And bad investments
were on top of that,
432
00:20:49,948 --> 00:20:52,049
and his life was just
in shambles at that point.
433
00:20:52,051 --> 00:20:53,183
What does he do next?
434
00:20:53,185 --> 00:20:58,188
In 1908, he gets
1/2 million acres of swampland
435
00:20:58,190 --> 00:20:59,656
from the government
to sell,
436
00:20:59,658 --> 00:21:01,725
which includes
your clients' property.
437
00:21:01,727 --> 00:21:02,993
So, let me ask something.
438
00:21:02,995 --> 00:21:04,127
Who the hell does
he convince to buy this?
439
00:21:04,129 --> 00:21:05,596
People from the Midwest,
the North.
440
00:21:05,598 --> 00:21:07,196
They've never been
in Florida.
441
00:21:07,198 --> 00:21:09,465
So, they come down, they've got
alligators and mosquitoes?
442
00:21:09,467 --> 00:21:12,268
That's what they find,
and they are not happy.
443
00:21:12,270 --> 00:21:14,004
A whole lot of people
sued him,
444
00:21:14,006 --> 00:21:16,005
and the government
charged him with fraud.
445
00:21:16,007 --> 00:21:19,609
And he was tied up with lawsuits
till the day he died.
446
00:21:19,611 --> 00:21:21,144
How and when
did he die?
447
00:21:21,146 --> 00:21:24,881
Well, he dies
on March 25th, 1917,
448
00:21:24,883 --> 00:21:27,017
in a smoking car
of a train.
449
00:21:27,019 --> 00:21:28,685
What was
the cause of death?
450
00:21:28,687 --> 00:21:31,154
Coroner said that there
was pulmonary edema
451
00:21:31,156 --> 00:21:35,025
and an enlarged heart,
and, you know, he was 73.
452
00:21:35,027 --> 00:21:36,359
What happens
to all the money?
453
00:21:36,361 --> 00:21:41,098
Well, the will names
a lot of people,
454
00:21:41,100 --> 00:21:43,967
but then, out of nowhere,
this woman comes forward
455
00:21:43,969 --> 00:21:46,903
and claims they've been
married a long time,
456
00:21:46,905 --> 00:21:54,177
and she says
they had two children.
457
00:21:54,179 --> 00:21:57,848
I'm seeing an elderly man, 5'7".
458
00:21:57,850 --> 00:22:02,652
So, I'd probably put him
in his late 70s, early 80s.
459
00:22:02,654 --> 00:22:04,721
Do you get any information
on him in life?
460
00:22:04,723 --> 00:22:06,323
Lived here.
461
00:22:06,325 --> 00:22:09,258
I don't know what he did for
a living, but he's very scared.
462
00:22:09,260 --> 00:22:10,794
He's afraid of somebody.
463
00:22:10,796 --> 00:22:13,463
I'm thinking that this is
a couple here, you know?
464
00:22:13,465 --> 00:22:16,599
The elderly woman and him --
I think it is his wife,
465
00:22:16,601 --> 00:22:18,468
and I think he knew
she was **** crazy.
466
00:22:18,470 --> 00:22:22,739
I think he had some kind
of heart condition.
467
00:22:22,741 --> 00:22:25,942
I'm kind of wondering
if she killed him.
468
00:22:25,944 --> 00:22:28,812
She's pissed.
469
00:22:29,114 --> 00:22:32,248
All right, so, we've got
this dead con man
470
00:22:32,250 --> 00:22:34,517
and a secret wife and kids
that comes out of nowhere.
471
00:22:34,519 --> 00:22:35,719
What do we know
about her?
472
00:22:35,721 --> 00:22:38,855
Well, her name
is Susan Thompson Boles. Okay.
473
00:22:38,857 --> 00:22:42,592
She said that they'd been
having an affair for 20 years,
474
00:22:42,594 --> 00:22:45,929
including during his
first marriage with Julia.
475
00:22:45,931 --> 00:22:47,464
All right, so, obviously,
this woman comes forward
476
00:22:47,466 --> 00:22:48,932
because she wants
a piece of the pie.
477
00:22:48,934 --> 00:22:50,600
Does she get it?
No.
478
00:22:50,602 --> 00:22:53,936
Susan herself did not get
any money at all.
479
00:22:53,938 --> 00:22:56,272
Okay.
480
00:22:56,274 --> 00:23:00,076
The little old lady,
she's like, "Get out."
481
00:23:02,146 --> 00:23:03,879
Can you tell anything
about her in life?
482
00:23:03,881 --> 00:23:07,950
She's showing me
diamond jewelry.
483
00:23:07,952 --> 00:23:09,685
Very about appearance,
484
00:23:09,687 --> 00:23:11,620
acting like she had money,
I guess.
485
00:23:11,622 --> 00:23:14,424
You know, she thought,
"I was thin,"
486
00:23:14,426 --> 00:23:18,228
like, "I was skinny
all my life."
487
00:23:18,230 --> 00:23:20,430
Is there
anything else?
488
00:23:20,432 --> 00:23:22,499
I think she had kids.
489
00:23:22,501 --> 00:23:25,701
I think she did
really bad things with money
490
00:23:25,703 --> 00:23:27,904
with that guy out there
who might have been her husband.
491
00:23:27,906 --> 00:23:31,373
I'm not sure.
492
00:23:31,375 --> 00:23:34,377
She had tortured
everybody, basically.
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00:23:42,587 --> 00:23:44,587
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498
00:23:53,198 --> 00:23:54,497
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499
00:24:06,678 --> 00:24:08,878
So far, I have a family
going through hell
500
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,414
in their dream home
on a property
501
00:24:11,416 --> 00:24:13,015
once owned by a con man
502
00:24:13,017 --> 00:24:17,086
who sold swampland to investors
and had a secret family,
503
00:24:17,088 --> 00:24:18,755
but I want to see
if there's anything else.
504
00:24:18,757 --> 00:24:20,089
Searching through old records,
505
00:24:20,091 --> 00:24:22,425
I come across
a brutal murder-suicide
506
00:24:22,427 --> 00:24:24,226
involving a young couple.
507
00:24:24,228 --> 00:24:26,829
Turns out, one of the bodies
was found in a swamp
508
00:24:26,831 --> 00:24:29,165
right down the street
from my clients' property.
509
00:24:29,167 --> 00:24:31,768
So, I just placed a call
to a former detective.
510
00:24:31,770 --> 00:24:34,771
He knows the case and says
there's a special place in hell
511
00:24:34,773 --> 00:24:42,445
reserved for this killer.
512
00:24:42,447 --> 00:24:43,980
Well, Ed, thanks
for meeting with me
513
00:24:43,982 --> 00:24:46,049
and helping me out
with this case.
514
00:24:46,051 --> 00:24:47,851
What do we know
about the people involved?
515
00:24:47,853 --> 00:24:50,453
Well, it involved the young,
African-American couple
516
00:24:50,455 --> 00:24:52,321
from South Florida.
517
00:24:52,323 --> 00:24:55,057
Lisa Forbes,
she was 20 years old. Okay.
518
00:24:55,059 --> 00:24:57,727
And Hugh Livered,
he was a 27-year-old.
519
00:24:57,729 --> 00:24:59,061
We don't have much
more information
520
00:24:59,063 --> 00:25:00,863
on either one of them
except that they raised
521
00:25:00,865 --> 00:25:02,665
a 4-year-old boy
together.
522
00:25:02,667 --> 00:25:03,866
Okay, Ed,
do me a favor.
523
00:25:03,868 --> 00:25:05,134
Take me through the homicide.
What happened?
524
00:25:05,136 --> 00:25:08,138
Back in
September 11th, 1982,
525
00:25:08,140 --> 00:25:10,606
Lisa and Hugh
were in Lisa's apartment,
526
00:25:10,608 --> 00:25:12,542
and they had some type
of an argument.
527
00:25:12,544 --> 00:25:14,477
Hugh became
very enraged.
528
00:25:14,479 --> 00:25:16,545
He grabbed a 6-inch
kitchen knife,
529
00:25:16,547 --> 00:25:19,949
stabbed Lisa in the neck,
cuts her throat.
530
00:25:19,951 --> 00:25:21,750
She bleeds to death
right there
531
00:25:21,752 --> 00:25:24,087
in front
of their 4-year-old boy.
532
00:25:24,089 --> 00:25:25,555
Geez.
533
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:31,160
This is weird.
My neck hurts a little.
534
00:25:31,162 --> 00:25:35,531
Like, somebody's broken neck
or something.
535
00:25:35,533 --> 00:25:37,433
I think it's a female.
536
00:25:37,435 --> 00:25:41,638
It just ****
hurts real bad.
537
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:45,507
Do you know if this
is from a deceased, a residual?
538
00:25:45,509 --> 00:25:48,044
They're dead, yeah.
539
00:25:48,046 --> 00:25:50,780
I just see dark hair,
really dark hair.
540
00:25:50,782 --> 00:25:52,648
She's a bigger girl.
541
00:25:52,650 --> 00:25:58,988
She's tall, say at least 5'10",
and she's in her 20s.
542
00:25:58,990 --> 00:26:01,190
And she was murdered.
543
00:26:04,462 --> 00:26:06,328
All right, so, now,
she's obviously dying
544
00:26:06,330 --> 00:26:07,463
on the floor
or dead already.
545
00:26:07,465 --> 00:26:08,464
What does he do?
546
00:26:08,466 --> 00:26:10,266
Well, he panics.
547
00:26:10,268 --> 00:26:11,935
He leaves the knife
on the ground
548
00:26:11,937 --> 00:26:14,871
next to the body,
leaves his son there.
549
00:26:14,873 --> 00:26:16,472
He just takes off
from the scene.
550
00:26:16,474 --> 00:26:18,408
He's gone.
Where does he go?
551
00:26:18,410 --> 00:26:20,076
He gets in his car,
and he drives north,
552
00:26:20,078 --> 00:26:22,478
and he parked his car
near a swamp area
553
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,615
about 2,000 feet away
from your clients' property,
554
00:26:25,617 --> 00:26:28,150
gets out of his car,
walks into the field,
555
00:26:28,152 --> 00:26:29,885
shoots himself
in the head.
556
00:26:29,887 --> 00:26:32,421
Okay.
557
00:26:32,423 --> 00:26:35,291
So, there's someone here.
558
00:26:35,293 --> 00:26:38,561
It's a male.
He's acting zombie-ish.
559
00:26:38,563 --> 00:26:40,963
Like he's, like,
walking strangely,
560
00:26:40,965 --> 00:26:45,635
like, stiffly, I guess.
561
00:26:45,637 --> 00:26:50,173
I'd put him at least 6'2",
220 or up.
562
00:26:50,175 --> 00:26:53,109
Think, maybe,
he might be black?
563
00:26:53,111 --> 00:26:54,444
He seems more recent.
564
00:26:54,446 --> 00:26:56,378
I'd put him --
565
00:26:56,380 --> 00:26:59,782
I wouldn't put him earlier
than the 1980s.
566
00:26:59,784 --> 00:27:02,652
His age, I was getting 30s,
567
00:27:02,654 --> 00:27:05,988
and he really gets up kind of
on you, you know, like,
568
00:27:05,990 --> 00:27:10,526
he was just kind of like
right there and made me nervous.
569
00:27:10,528 --> 00:27:14,330
And then he showed me a quick
glimpse of a swamp-like area.
570
00:27:14,332 --> 00:27:20,737
Then I started getting
this real panic, panic-stricken.
571
00:27:20,739 --> 00:27:23,740
Feels like I'm being choked
and the panic again,
572
00:27:23,742 --> 00:27:25,742
and that just went away.
573
00:27:31,816 --> 00:27:34,083
I saw several disturbing things
on my walk,
574
00:27:34,085 --> 00:27:35,551
but two stood out.
575
00:27:35,553 --> 00:27:37,019
First, the old man.
576
00:27:37,021 --> 00:27:38,688
He pretty much
was bald.
577
00:27:38,690 --> 00:27:43,025
He had a lot
of wrinkles on top,
578
00:27:43,027 --> 00:27:45,895
and his eyebrows
were super bushy.
579
00:27:45,897 --> 00:27:48,497
And his neck was
thicker.
580
00:27:48,499 --> 00:27:49,632
Okay.
581
00:27:49,634 --> 00:27:51,968
Next, I described
the old lady crawling out
582
00:27:51,970 --> 00:27:53,703
from under the master bed.
583
00:27:53,705 --> 00:27:54,904
What she's done
is made, like,
584
00:27:54,906 --> 00:27:57,840
a little bit of a hole
under this bed
585
00:27:57,842 --> 00:28:00,509
where she likes
to rest.
586
00:28:00,511 --> 00:28:03,246
She's
a decomposing body,
587
00:28:03,248 --> 00:28:06,182
and she's kind of coming up
under the comforter.
588
00:28:11,523 --> 00:28:14,791
Amy, is this
what you saw?
589
00:28:14,793 --> 00:28:16,926
Yes, that's
what I saw.
590
00:28:42,753 --> 00:28:44,353
Now that Amy and I
have completed
591
00:28:44,355 --> 00:28:46,889
our investigations,
we're ready to reveal
592
00:28:46,891 --> 00:28:49,358
our findings to each other
and our clients
593
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,227
for the first time.
594
00:28:51,229 --> 00:28:53,296
So, Amy, I'd like you
to meet Christa,
595
00:28:53,298 --> 00:28:55,097
and these are
her parents.
596
00:28:55,099 --> 00:28:57,233
This is Michael,
and this is Michelle.
597
00:28:57,235 --> 00:28:59,502
Now, the three of them live here
with Christa's brother,
598
00:28:59,504 --> 00:29:02,305
Michael Anthony,
who's right here,
599
00:29:02,307 --> 00:29:04,239
and his fiancée, Kara.
600
00:29:04,241 --> 00:29:06,709
Christa called us in because she
thinks the whole family
601
00:29:06,711 --> 00:29:09,579
is in danger here,
and if we can't fix it,
602
00:29:09,581 --> 00:29:11,848
she's convinced somebody
is going to die.
603
00:29:11,850 --> 00:29:14,917
Now, one thing you should know
about Christa --
604
00:29:14,919 --> 00:29:16,919
She became
a Reiki master.
605
00:29:16,921 --> 00:29:19,121
And you tried doing
what you could in the house,
606
00:29:19,123 --> 00:29:22,325
but, obviously,
this is out of your league.
607
00:29:22,327 --> 00:29:25,728
So, now that Amy knows a little
bit about your situation,
608
00:29:25,730 --> 00:29:32,335
I'll ask her
to describe her walk.
609
00:29:32,337 --> 00:29:36,071
The first dead person
that I wanted to talk about
610
00:29:36,073 --> 00:29:38,273
was a male
that I encountered.
611
00:29:38,275 --> 00:29:41,410
Little guy, I would
put him at 5'7".
612
00:29:41,412 --> 00:29:44,147
I got that he did own
this property.
613
00:29:44,149 --> 00:29:48,684
Got that he was older when
he died, possibly in his 70s,
614
00:29:48,686 --> 00:29:50,686
and there was some
kind of heart condition.
615
00:29:50,688 --> 00:29:54,423
I thought possibly
that's what he died from.
616
00:29:54,425 --> 00:30:00,963
He's very afraid of a deceased
woman that's here, as well,
617
00:30:00,965 --> 00:30:02,832
but I'll get to her
in a minute.
618
00:30:02,834 --> 00:30:05,167
All right, so, I might have
a good idea
619
00:30:05,169 --> 00:30:06,836
of who she
might have seen.
620
00:30:06,838 --> 00:30:08,371
The original owner
of this property
621
00:30:08,373 --> 00:30:10,440
was a guy named
Richard Boles.
622
00:30:10,442 --> 00:30:12,375
So, now, the guy that you're
talking about you said
623
00:30:12,377 --> 00:30:15,578
was short,
and Boles was actually 5'6".
624
00:30:15,580 --> 00:30:18,314
Now, that combined
with his hustle and big ego
625
00:30:18,316 --> 00:30:21,984
earned him the nickname
"The Napoleon of Finance."
626
00:30:21,986 --> 00:30:24,386
Long story short,
a bunch of affairs, lawsuits,
627
00:30:24,388 --> 00:30:26,055
shoddy business deals
left him
628
00:30:26,057 --> 00:30:28,724
in pretty bad shape,
financially.
629
00:30:28,726 --> 00:30:31,527
So, in 1908, he came here.
630
00:30:31,529 --> 00:30:34,931
Now, he got a hold of a
1/2 million acres of swampland,
631
00:30:34,933 --> 00:30:36,466
which included your property,
632
00:30:36,468 --> 00:30:38,267
then the scammed
a bunch of farmers,
633
00:30:38,269 --> 00:30:43,205
retirees, Midwestern
schoolteachers into buying it.
634
00:30:43,207 --> 00:30:47,409
He told them the place was
paradise -- dry, fertile land.
635
00:30:47,411 --> 00:30:49,879
We all know, sitting here,
that that's a lot of bull.
636
00:30:49,881 --> 00:30:53,082
Because of the fraud, he spent
most of the rest of his life,
637
00:30:53,084 --> 00:30:54,550
basically,
tied up in lawsuits,
638
00:30:54,552 --> 00:30:56,352
and they brought up
criminal charges against him.
639
00:30:56,354 --> 00:30:57,819
Okay.
640
00:30:57,821 --> 00:31:00,222
None of the charges
ever amounted to anything
641
00:31:00,224 --> 00:31:04,092
because he died before they made
it through the courts.
642
00:31:04,094 --> 00:31:07,363
This is
his death certificate.
643
00:31:07,365 --> 00:31:08,697
Now, you said the guy
was in his 70s.
644
00:31:08,699 --> 00:31:11,233
This guy was 73 when he died.
645
00:31:11,235 --> 00:31:13,302
Now, I actually managed
to get a photo of this guy,
646
00:31:13,304 --> 00:31:16,972
but it was well
before he died.
647
00:31:16,974 --> 00:31:20,709
Wow.
648
00:31:20,711 --> 00:31:22,712
So, do you think Boles
could be the guy
649
00:31:22,714 --> 00:31:25,314
that you might have
run into?
650
00:31:25,316 --> 00:31:36,191
I had a sketch done
of the person I saw.
651
00:31:36,193 --> 00:31:39,662
You guys tells me.
652
00:31:39,664 --> 00:31:42,265
This is the guy.
Got a knot in my throat
653
00:31:42,267 --> 00:31:48,337
because this is
the guy I saw.
654
00:31:48,339 --> 00:31:51,007
Holy ****.
655
00:31:51,009 --> 00:31:52,474
Well, I have no doubt
in my mind it's him.
656
00:31:52,476 --> 00:31:53,809
- Yeah.
- Totally.
657
00:31:53,811 --> 00:31:55,745
The eyes.
And the nose.
658
00:31:55,747 --> 00:32:00,082
Got the chills.
659
00:32:00,084 --> 00:32:02,351
So, what else?
660
00:32:02,353 --> 00:32:06,489
The next person that
I encountered was a dead woman.
661
00:32:06,491 --> 00:32:11,760
She is the biggest threat
in this house.
662
00:32:11,762 --> 00:32:13,762
When I first
encountered her,
663
00:32:13,764 --> 00:32:17,366
she was decomposing
and, you know, she's a mess.
664
00:32:17,368 --> 00:32:20,435
But she wanted to make sure
that I understood that,
665
00:32:20,437 --> 00:32:24,106
you know, when she was alive,
she was, you know,
666
00:32:24,108 --> 00:32:29,378
all done up and nice clothes
and fancy jewelry
667
00:32:29,380 --> 00:32:31,246
and that
she had money.
668
00:32:31,248 --> 00:32:35,651
Eventually, I figured out that
she was married to this guy.
669
00:32:35,653 --> 00:32:39,254
They had kids.
I got that she was a housewife.
670
00:32:39,256 --> 00:32:42,525
They don't
like each other now,
671
00:32:42,527 --> 00:32:44,927
which really made me feel like
they didn't particularly
672
00:32:44,929 --> 00:32:47,863
like each other
when they were alive.
673
00:32:47,865 --> 00:32:52,067
Well, probably not going to
believe what I'm about to say.
674
00:32:52,069 --> 00:32:56,072
After Richard Boles died,
a 71-year-old woman came forward
675
00:32:56,074 --> 00:32:57,673
and said she had been
secretly been married
676
00:32:57,675 --> 00:33:00,475
to the guy
for almost 20 years.
677
00:33:00,477 --> 00:33:03,412
Now, her name
was Susan Thompson Boles.
678
00:33:03,414 --> 00:33:06,281
She never produced a record
proving they were married,
679
00:33:06,283 --> 00:33:09,685
but she still sued
to try to break his will
680
00:33:09,687 --> 00:33:12,421
so she could get a piece of
the massive fortune, obviously.
681
00:33:12,423 --> 00:33:14,090
She couldn't provide
enough proof to the courts
682
00:33:14,092 --> 00:33:17,092
about their supposed
marriage in 1896,
683
00:33:17,094 --> 00:33:18,360
so she lost her case.
684
00:33:18,362 --> 00:33:20,029
Interesting.
685
00:33:20,031 --> 00:33:22,164
Can she do anything
to the living?
686
00:33:22,166 --> 00:33:26,902
Yes. General experiences
would be yelling,
687
00:33:26,904 --> 00:33:30,505
which at times to me sounded
even like gibberish,
688
00:33:30,507 --> 00:33:33,308
like it wasn't even making
any **** sense.
689
00:33:33,310 --> 00:33:36,912
I've heard voices,
but the gibberish part?
690
00:33:36,914 --> 00:33:38,580
Michael Anthony --
691
00:33:38,582 --> 00:33:43,185
He said he heard someone
speaking to him in tongues.
692
00:33:43,187 --> 00:33:48,591
So, the gibberish
makes sense.
693
00:33:48,593 --> 00:33:52,728
She's super powerful, so I could
see her doing image borrowing,
694
00:33:52,730 --> 00:33:55,664
which is not
a good sign.
695
00:33:55,666 --> 00:33:56,999
Remember you telling me
about seeing a woman
696
00:33:57,001 --> 00:33:58,200
go past the door?
697
00:33:58,202 --> 00:34:02,471
Yeah. I see a woman, and
I always think that it's my mom
698
00:34:02,473 --> 00:34:04,740
until I go up to,
like, go say hi to her,
699
00:34:04,742 --> 00:34:09,545
and she walks by the
back window, and it's never her.
700
00:34:09,547 --> 00:34:12,348
But she looks
almost identical.
701
00:34:13,951 --> 00:34:17,219
She can affect
the living mentally,
702
00:34:17,221 --> 00:34:20,890
so when she's around,
I wouldn't be surprised
703
00:34:20,892 --> 00:34:25,961
if you felt like sudden
confusion and overwhelmed
704
00:34:25,963 --> 00:34:32,034
and chaotic, completely unable
to concentrate or focus,
705
00:34:32,036 --> 00:34:35,571
and also if you're around her
for an extended period of time,
706
00:34:35,573 --> 00:34:39,041
you would be left
physically drained.
707
00:34:39,043 --> 00:34:42,377
She's a complete
energy vampire.
708
00:34:42,379 --> 00:34:44,580
You okay?
709
00:34:44,582 --> 00:34:46,449
Yeah.
710
00:34:46,451 --> 00:34:48,784
You know, Christa has anxiety,
mood changes.
711
00:34:48,786 --> 00:34:51,386
Yeah, exactly.
I mean, the anxiety --
712
00:34:51,388 --> 00:34:53,189
It just comes
out of nowhere.
713
00:34:53,191 --> 00:34:55,791
I just feel like
it's hanging on me.
714
00:34:55,793 --> 00:34:59,394
Just feel like all over
the place, like, scatterbrained,
715
00:34:59,396 --> 00:35:02,465
but then I go to work,
and I'm fine.
716
00:35:02,467 --> 00:35:08,137
One of her favorite places
to rest is in a hole
717
00:35:08,139 --> 00:35:11,206
under the master bed.
718
00:35:11,208 --> 00:35:16,611
I saw her fussing with you
relentlessly.
719
00:35:16,613 --> 00:35:18,079
"I'm going to touch
your face."
720
00:35:18,081 --> 00:35:21,550
Like, "I'm going to, like,
okay, your eyebrows.
721
00:35:21,552 --> 00:35:24,085
Okay, your eyebrows.
What's your ear doing?"
722
00:35:24,087 --> 00:35:27,155
Like, it's **** weird.
723
00:35:27,157 --> 00:35:30,893
I was asleep, and I felt
an actual hand grab my hip,
724
00:35:30,895 --> 00:35:33,896
like as if, "Move over.
I want to sit down next to you."
725
00:35:33,898 --> 00:35:37,900
She kind of had
the hots for you.
726
00:35:37,902 --> 00:35:40,402
She's got to go.
727
00:35:40,404 --> 00:35:51,313
So, I did have a sketch
done of her.
728
00:35:51,315 --> 00:35:55,317
You're not going to want
to see this.
729
00:35:55,319 --> 00:35:57,720
My God.
730
00:36:08,533 --> 00:36:10,131
I want to go.
731
00:36:10,133 --> 00:36:13,402
It's like
she's partially decomposing.
732
00:36:13,404 --> 00:36:16,404
I also saw her messing with
someone in the back bedroom.
733
00:36:16,406 --> 00:36:17,739
That's
Michael Anthony's room?
734
00:36:17,741 --> 00:36:19,141
His former room.
735
00:36:19,143 --> 00:36:24,747
So, I went back there,
and I was overcome with sadness.
736
00:36:24,749 --> 00:36:27,349
Felt like I was just going
to start crying,
737
00:36:27,351 --> 00:36:28,617
and I felt like
it was coming
738
00:36:28,619 --> 00:36:32,153
from the living person
in that room.
739
00:36:32,155 --> 00:36:36,358
I felt like that person was
a very big,
740
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,428
like, psychic empath.
741
00:36:39,430 --> 00:36:43,365
The dead lady was taking
advantage of that
742
00:36:43,367 --> 00:36:46,302
by attacking the person
both physically and mentally.
743
00:36:46,304 --> 00:36:47,503
She's
manipulating them.
744
00:36:47,505 --> 00:36:50,372
She was making them
see strange things,
745
00:36:50,374 --> 00:36:51,774
also giving
this person nightmares
746
00:36:51,776 --> 00:36:53,776
and negative thoughts.
747
00:36:53,778 --> 00:36:57,913
Basically,
torturing this person.
748
00:36:57,915 --> 00:37:00,049
I felt like that person
was really in trouble
749
00:37:00,051 --> 00:37:04,053
and really needs help.
750
00:37:04,055 --> 00:37:06,855
So, Michael
goes through stages
751
00:37:06,857 --> 00:37:08,257
where he wouldn't
get out of bed.
752
00:37:08,259 --> 00:37:12,862
He'd be dark, just very dark, in
a dark place, depression.
753
00:37:12,864 --> 00:37:16,798
I had a feeling something
was preying on him.
754
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,601
So, now his experiences in
that back bedroom were so bad,
755
00:37:19,603 --> 00:37:21,003
he wound up moving out
of the house
756
00:37:21,005 --> 00:37:23,405
and into that trailer
in the backyard.
757
00:37:23,407 --> 00:37:27,476
I wanted to talk to him,
but he's in such a dark place
758
00:37:27,478 --> 00:37:31,347
that he wouldn't
even talk to me.
759
00:37:31,349 --> 00:37:33,415
When I went into
the middle room,
760
00:37:33,417 --> 00:37:36,886
which now I'm assuming is yours,
to me that room
761
00:37:36,888 --> 00:37:40,822
she's the most dangerous,
what she's doing to you.
762
00:37:40,824 --> 00:37:43,558
She is
affecting you mentally,
763
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:46,295
definitely manipulating
your thoughts.
764
00:37:46,297 --> 00:37:47,696
One of the things she was
showing me
765
00:37:47,698 --> 00:37:50,432
was her putting herself
into your mind
766
00:37:50,434 --> 00:37:56,237
and giving you dreams
and nightmares.
767
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:57,706
Nightmares,
right, honey?
768
00:37:57,708 --> 00:38:01,243
Yeah,
I've had one where I saw Michael
769
00:38:01,245 --> 00:38:06,247
at the bottom of the pool.
770
00:38:06,249 --> 00:38:08,450
I saw her getting
really physical with you.
771
00:38:08,452 --> 00:38:10,585
She was showing me, like,
her putting her hand
772
00:38:10,587 --> 00:38:11,987
over your mouth.
773
00:38:11,989 --> 00:38:13,789
I've been held down
in bed.
774
00:38:13,791 --> 00:38:16,191
And then I got that
there was an illness.
775
00:38:16,193 --> 00:38:18,928
She's taking advantage
of this.
776
00:38:18,930 --> 00:38:22,331
When I was younger,
I had childhood cancer,
777
00:38:22,333 --> 00:38:23,665
and, so,
I've had a lot of --
778
00:38:23,667 --> 00:38:25,000
Wow.
Yeah.
779
00:38:25,002 --> 00:38:31,139
So, I've had a lot of long-term
side effects from that.
780
00:38:31,141 --> 00:38:37,212
She actually does jump you,
which means she's entering you
781
00:38:37,214 --> 00:38:40,015
and taking control
of your mind and body,
782
00:38:40,017 --> 00:38:42,751
for short periods
of time.
783
00:38:42,753 --> 00:38:46,889
I got that her end goal
was to possess you.
784
00:38:46,891 --> 00:38:51,293
She believes that she can
take over your body
785
00:38:51,295 --> 00:38:53,896
and that she can
then be alive again.
786
00:38:53,898 --> 00:38:56,065
In order to achieve
this transition,
787
00:38:56,067 --> 00:38:59,367
she feels like
she needs to kill you.
788
00:38:59,369 --> 00:39:05,307
I never thought that the biggest
problem was with me.
789
00:39:05,309 --> 00:39:06,641
I'm pissed as ****
790
00:39:06,643 --> 00:39:09,044
and there's nothing
I can do about it.
791
00:39:09,046 --> 00:39:10,446
I want
this **** out.
792
00:39:10,448 --> 00:39:13,449
Enough. Enough.
793
00:39:16,387 --> 00:39:18,187
Come here.
794
00:39:38,209 --> 00:39:41,943
So, I know it's been a tough
night for you guys so far,
795
00:39:41,945 --> 00:39:44,213
but we still haven't
answered the big question.
796
00:39:44,215 --> 00:39:46,415
Is there anything that you can
do to make this place safe
797
00:39:46,417 --> 00:39:47,749
for you and the family,
798
00:39:47,751 --> 00:39:50,385
or is the best option
to get the hell out of here?
799
00:39:50,387 --> 00:39:55,824
For that answer, I'm going
to turn it over to Amy.
800
00:39:55,826 --> 00:39:58,460
The first thing is
a team of people
801
00:39:58,462 --> 00:40:01,963
that I work with
are going to come here.
802
00:40:01,965 --> 00:40:04,166
They all have different types
of abilities,
803
00:40:04,168 --> 00:40:06,034
which is
super important.
804
00:40:06,036 --> 00:40:08,170
The first thing
that they're going to do
805
00:40:08,172 --> 00:40:13,709
is to take Michael Anthony
and yourself away from the home.
806
00:40:13,711 --> 00:40:16,979
While you're away,
what they're going to do
807
00:40:16,981 --> 00:40:20,249
is a cord removal
from Michael Anthony
808
00:40:20,251 --> 00:40:23,318
and an exorcism of you.
809
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:24,652
Why an exorcism?
810
00:40:24,654 --> 00:40:29,391
Because this woman
is entering your body.
811
00:40:29,393 --> 00:40:31,126
When the dead do that,
812
00:40:31,128 --> 00:40:37,399
they leave aspects
of themselves.
813
00:40:37,401 --> 00:40:40,202
I honestly
don't even know what to say.
814
00:40:40,204 --> 00:40:43,538
So, while that's going on
over there,
815
00:40:43,540 --> 00:40:46,341
other team members
will remain at the house,
816
00:40:46,343 --> 00:40:51,146
and they will deal first
with the Boles dude
817
00:40:51,148 --> 00:40:54,816
because he wants out.
818
00:40:54,818 --> 00:40:56,885
Then, they will remove
the woman.
819
00:40:56,887 --> 00:41:00,088
It's, you know, going to be
a tough one for them,
820
00:41:00,090 --> 00:41:06,228
and they're going to have to
forcefully remove her.
821
00:41:06,230 --> 00:41:08,696
I mean, you got a lot of stuff
that you guys have been
822
00:41:08,698 --> 00:41:10,832
going through
that going to come to a halt,
823
00:41:10,834 --> 00:41:13,168
which is incredible.
824
00:41:13,170 --> 00:41:14,970
- Good. Good.
- Yeah.
825
00:41:14,972 --> 00:41:18,640
Yeah, it's a big relief.
It really is.
826
00:41:18,642 --> 00:41:21,110
I was going to ask if you
guys would take Amy's advice,
827
00:41:21,112 --> 00:41:23,245
but that's a stupid
question at this point.
828
00:41:23,247 --> 00:41:25,447
Yeah.
Don't even bother asking.
829
00:41:25,449 --> 00:41:30,185
Now, we have an answer, and
now we have a treatment plan,
830
00:41:30,187 --> 00:41:32,788
and, so, let's do it.
831
00:41:32,790 --> 00:41:36,057
I didn't survive cancer to be
taken out by this lady,
832
00:41:36,059 --> 00:41:39,194
so it's going
to be handled.
833
00:41:39,196 --> 00:41:41,329
I know it's going to
get better,
834
00:41:41,331 --> 00:41:43,465
so that's also validating
to know
835
00:41:43,467 --> 00:41:47,802
that there's
a way to fix it.
836
00:41:47,804 --> 00:41:49,938
Amy, thank you.
837
00:41:53,010 --> 00:41:54,543
Christa, her brother,
and parents
838
00:41:54,545 --> 00:41:56,811
still have a long road
ahead of them,
839
00:41:56,813 --> 00:41:59,214
but I'm confident,
if they follow my advice,
840
00:41:59,216 --> 00:42:02,351
they'll be able to live
in their house in peace.
841
00:42:06,690 --> 00:42:08,824
Hey, "Dead Files,"
what a difference
842
00:42:08,826 --> 00:42:10,826
you guys have made
in my family's lives.
843
00:42:10,828 --> 00:42:13,762
We followed all of Amy's advice
and had the team come out.
844
00:42:13,764 --> 00:42:16,164
All negative activity
has stopped.
845
00:42:16,166 --> 00:42:18,901
To say our lives have changed
would be an understatement.
846
00:42:18,903 --> 00:42:22,504
We feel great spiritually,
mentally, and physically.
847
00:42:22,506 --> 00:42:26,841
We are so grateful for
everything your team did for us.
848
00:42:26,843 --> 00:42:28,010
Thank you.
Thank you.
849
00:42:28,060 --> 00:42:32,610
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