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I am seeing, like,
a shadow woman.
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She's crawling onto
this person and just,
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like, melding with them.
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My mom's health is bad.
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I think
it's trying to kill her.
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She says that she was murdered
and wants revenge.
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Pulls her out of a taxi
and shoots her.
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And I'm so afraid
I'm gonna lose my mom.
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She's killing this person.
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She just hurts people
indiscriminately,
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and I just feel fear.
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My name is Amy Allan.
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This is, like,
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Grand Central Station
for the dead.
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I see dead people.
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They have pain
that they suffered.
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I speak to dead people.
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She hates them, hates them.
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And they speak to me,
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but there's only one way to know
if my findings are real.
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It's a demon.
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It's Satan.
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I rely on my partner.
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I'm Steve Di Schiavi.
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I'm a retired New York City
homicide detective.
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What was the body count?
What happened?
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And I know every person,
every house has secrets.
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I don't know
if it's a demon or not,
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but it sure as hell
looks like one.
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It's my job to reveal them.
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I feel like I'm crazy.
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But Steve and I never speak...
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We never communicate
during an investigation.
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...until the very end.
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I want to show you this.
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When we uncover if it's safe
for you to stay...
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I just don't want anything
to happen to my mother.
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Or time to get out.
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You have to get out.
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I'm out here,
in Lynchburg, Ohio.
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It's about an hour east
of Cincinnati.
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I got a call from a woman
named Carissa.
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Now, she is freaked out,
thinks the paranormal
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is going after her kids
and her elderly mom.
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Now, this lady used to be
an MMA fighter,
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so if she's scared,
things have got to be bad.
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Before Amy arrives,
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I look for any leading
information.
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Artwork, family photos,
and religious symbols
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can influence her findings,
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so it's important that I cover
or remove them all.
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When I'm finished,
the location will be ready
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for tonight's walk.
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This is weird.
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A woman in war paint came to me
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and says to be aware
of the snakes on the land.
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So there's an old man
in there.
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I think he's one of the snakes.
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He will kill you.
He has killed people.
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So, Carissa,
sitting out here with you,
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it's hard to imagine
there's anything wrong.
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I mean,
what's going on here?
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The paranormal activity
in this house
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is absolutely out of control.
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My mom's health is bad.
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I think
it's trying to kill her.
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- Okay.
- My kids are being attacked.
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Who exactly is living
in the house now?
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- We got myself --
- Right.
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...my 15-year-old son, Eric,
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my 7-year-old daughter,
Keira, my husband,
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Terry, and my mom, Debbie.
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Okay.
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So how long have you been here?
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We have been here
almost nine years.
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When did things change?
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Probably about two years ago,
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my daughter started
seeing stuff,
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and once she started
having her experiences,
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all hell broke loose.
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So any thoughts
on what's causing
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the activity in the house?
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A lot of times, I've worried
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that it's that really
old cemetery back there.
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So you got a cemetery
in your backyard. Yeah.
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All right, so what kinds of
things are you experiencing now?
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We are being watched.
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Objects are being thrown.
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There's constant
shadow figures.
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We are physically
being touched,
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and health is just
constantly declining.
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All right,
so is everybody in the house
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being affected
by the health issues?
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My mom is the worst.
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She's actually
in the hospital now,
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and she's told me
that it's trying to kill her.
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So as far as for me,
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I can't blame health issues
on the paranormal.
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Maybe Amy could give us an idea
what's going on with that.
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I hope so.
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How are you holding up
with all this?
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Not well.
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I don't know what the ****
I'm fighting here. I don't...
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How do you fight
what you can't see?
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How do I defend my kids?
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Trying to keep my son
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from just
falling into a dark hole
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that I can't get him
back out of.
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And my daughter
is just terrified,
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and I'm so afraid
I'm gonna lose my mom.
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So I'm seeing a guy
who's drinking.
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He's just, like,
moving around the room,
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like, almost, like,
bouncing off the walls.
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He seems frustrated,
a little confused.
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People might hear him, like,
moving around and moving stuff.
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He died or began
his death process here.
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All right, Carissa.
So what's going on in here?
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We see shadow figures.
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They were just constantly
running around the floor
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and all over the ceilings.
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So when you're seeing
the shadow figures,
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what exactly
is it looking like?
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Very large black figure.
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You cannot see through it.
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- Is everybody seeing them?
- Absolutely.
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They will rush you and one time
actually knocked me over.
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Now, anything else physical
like that happen to you?
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Yes, I have been choked.
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Two hands around my neck
is what it felt like,
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just could not get air.
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Okay, so, but it felt
like a human hand?
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Yeah, just fingers digging in,
and when I looked in the mirror,
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there were scratches down
my neck and across my chest,
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and I took a picture of it.
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Pretty wild ****.
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If it breaks me,
my family is doomed.
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I have to fight, constantly
on guard, constantly.
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I am seeing, like,
a shadow woman,
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and she's got really long hair.
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She does grab people's necks
and do weird ****.
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She indicated a living lady
who is a bigger lady.
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I'd put her in her 40s or 50s.
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People would feel like
they're being touched,
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possibly pushed,
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long fingers
around their throats.
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She said she makes them
feel like her, "Feel my pain,"
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which is physical pain.
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She says that she was murdered
and wants revenge.
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She can't remember
who did this,
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so she just hurts people,
like, indiscriminately now.
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What I am thinking is that
the living here,
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they can see her
as a shadow figure.
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They would see red eyes,
and she moves like a spider,
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and then I heard "black widow."
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Okay, Carissa.
What's the story with this room?
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This is my mom's room.
This is where she sleeps.
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And you constantly
are feeling fine one minute
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and then aggressively angry,
I mean, to the point
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where I want to smack
the hell out of somebody.
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Something just takes me over
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and turns me into this terrible
human being that I am not.
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So I know you're concerned
about your mom's health.
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As far as the paranormal goes,
what's she going through?
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She sees shadows,
shadow figures all the time,
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just constantly,
and she woke up the other night,
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and one was standing
over top of her.
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My first worst fear is coming
down here one day,
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and she's gone.
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I'm curious what you're hoping
for out of our investigation.
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I'm hoping that you can help me
save my family.
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I just want to take care
of my kids and my mom.
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I am seeing...
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This person is seeing a shadow
figure at the end of her bed.
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She's here.
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The shadow woman, she's doing
bad things to this person.
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- In what respect?
- She's crawling.
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She's crawling on the bed.
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She's crawling onto this person
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and just, like,
melding with them.
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It's like she goes inside this
other person's body,
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all of her mental and emotional
and physical pain,
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the person would experience
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this anger
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and sadness and frustration
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and feeling like
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you want to hurt people.
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I know that this person
specifically is suffering
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due to that,
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and it could be
extremely detrimental
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for this living person.
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I think it could potentially
kill this person.
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So, Terry, obviously
your wife called us in
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because of the stuff
going on in the house. Yeah.
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And she thinks whatever is here
is pretty damn dangerous,
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especially for the kids
and your mother-in-law.
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Do you agree with that at all?
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- Very much.
- Okay.
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She was also talking to me
about the whole family
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dealing with these mood swings.
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You know, I would say
in the past year,
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it's gotten worse.
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We just -- We're always down
each other's throat.
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We're always arguing.
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We've never been
that way before.
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- Have you had experiences?
- Yes. I've had a few.
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Okay. So why don't
we talk about it?
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We'll be sitting
in the living room.
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All of a sudden,
it drops 20, 30 degrees.
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I mean, it gets cold.
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Is it in one concise spot?
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One spot.
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And how long does
this cold last?
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- Minutes.
- Okay.
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It's weird, right?
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It's very weird.
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All right, anything else?
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Well, I was out in front
of the garage,
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and I looked up
at my daughter's room,
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and I see this big
dark object with red eyes.
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I immediately run upstairs
to make sure what was going on,
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but, I mean, there was nothing
there when I got up there.
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All right, anything else?
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I was standing outside my garage
working on a truck,
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and maybe six to eight feet
in front of me,
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there's this person
standing there.
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Okay.
Can you describe them for me?
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Short hair, very clean-cut.
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All of a sudden, I look back
over, and it was gone.
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What the hell do you think
is going on in this house?
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I think it's evil.
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I'm seeing a very bad man.
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I think he's the brother
of that guy
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who was bouncing off the walls,
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and he's very angry.
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He carries around
the cold of winter.
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He doesn't like children,
and he will kill them.
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So, Keira, how old are you?
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-7.
-7, okay.
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So I was talking to
Mommy earlier,
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and she was saying
there's some stuff going on
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in the house
that's pretty scary. Yeah.
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Anything you can
tell me about?
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I see a man come out
of my closet.
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Okay, what is he wearing?
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Blue pants and a blue shirt,
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and he has brown hair.
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And what does he do
when he comes out, honey?
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Sometimes he talks
a little bit.
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Okay, does this guy scare you?
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He'd scare me, too, I think.
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So I don't like to sleep
in my room. Okay.
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So sometimes,
I just stay awake.
253
00:13:06,718 --> 00:13:09,052
Okay. So have you seen
anything else, honey?
254
00:13:09,054 --> 00:13:11,187
I see a little girl.
255
00:13:11,189 --> 00:13:12,255
Okay. What does she wear?
256
00:13:12,257 --> 00:13:15,458
She wears, like,
a little old dress.
257
00:13:15,460 --> 00:13:20,196
She had very short hair,
and it was very curly.
258
00:13:20,198 --> 00:13:22,732
She had a little bow, too.
259
00:13:22,734 --> 00:13:25,001
Okay.
Does she scare you at all? Yeah.
260
00:13:25,003 --> 00:13:27,403
Every time I go past my room,
261
00:13:27,405 --> 00:13:30,406
I have to run because
it's not fun seeing them. Yeah.
262
00:13:30,408 --> 00:13:33,343
We're gonna try to get rid
of all this stuff you're seeing.
263
00:13:33,345 --> 00:13:34,677
- Would you like that?
- Yeah.
264
00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:36,079
I don't want them here anymore.
265
00:13:36,081 --> 00:13:38,481
- No. You like living here.
- Yeah.
266
00:13:38,483 --> 00:13:41,618
- I like when they're all gone.
- Okay.
267
00:13:46,224 --> 00:13:49,759
I am seeing a dead child.
268
00:13:49,761 --> 00:13:54,564
She was laughing and giggling
and ran up the stairs.
269
00:13:54,566 --> 00:13:57,700
She likes this space.
270
00:13:57,702 --> 00:13:59,969
I see her jumping around,
271
00:13:59,971 --> 00:14:05,441
and I think they would feel
her jumping around on them.
272
00:14:05,443 --> 00:14:07,977
She goes in and out
of the closet.
273
00:14:07,979 --> 00:14:09,846
Can you describe her at all?
274
00:14:09,848 --> 00:14:13,316
She's very young, curly hair.
275
00:14:13,318 --> 00:14:16,185
I want to say she was sick
276
00:14:16,187 --> 00:14:20,456
for a long time,
277
00:14:20,458 --> 00:14:22,458
and then she died.
278
00:14:26,931 --> 00:14:29,132
So, Eric, how old are you?
279
00:14:29,134 --> 00:14:31,267
I'm 15.
280
00:14:31,269 --> 00:14:33,269
So I was talking to Mom today,
and she was telling me
281
00:14:33,271 --> 00:14:35,071
about the stuff
that's going on in the house,
282
00:14:35,073 --> 00:14:36,672
and she thinks
it's pretty dangerous.
283
00:14:36,674 --> 00:14:38,741
Do you agree that
it's dangerous? Yes.
284
00:14:38,743 --> 00:14:42,078
I understand that everybody
is having experiences. Have you?
285
00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:43,213
Yes, I have.
286
00:14:43,215 --> 00:14:45,014
Okay, so why don't we talk
about some of them?
287
00:14:45,016 --> 00:14:47,550
Sometimes I hear a voice
call my name,
288
00:14:47,552 --> 00:14:50,419
like, it was, like,
whispering in my ear.
289
00:14:50,421 --> 00:14:53,022
It kind of sounds
like a woman to me.
290
00:14:53,024 --> 00:14:55,759
All right, so that's got to be
a little scary to hear that. Yeah.
291
00:14:55,761 --> 00:14:57,493
Okay. So what else?
292
00:14:57,495 --> 00:14:59,095
Sometimes
I'm trying to sleep.
293
00:14:59,097 --> 00:15:03,299
I feel something touching me
like a cold touch.
294
00:15:03,301 --> 00:15:04,567
Where do you feel it?
295
00:15:04,569 --> 00:15:07,970
In my arm or, like,
touch my hair or whatever.
296
00:15:07,972 --> 00:15:10,440
Now Mom was telling me
about everybody getting sicker.
297
00:15:10,442 --> 00:15:12,375
So do you think the stuff
that's going on in the house,
298
00:15:12,377 --> 00:15:16,379
the paranormal activity,
is making it worse for you?
299
00:15:16,381 --> 00:15:17,847
Yeah, I believe so.
300
00:15:17,849 --> 00:15:21,251
I've been kind of feeling,
like, worse lately.
301
00:15:21,253 --> 00:15:23,986
Okay.
302
00:15:23,988 --> 00:15:26,455
There's another woman here.
303
00:15:26,457 --> 00:15:27,657
She's a mess, and I would say
304
00:15:27,659 --> 00:15:32,195
she's a pioneer lady
from the 1800s.
305
00:15:32,197 --> 00:15:34,931
She was very, very sick.
306
00:15:34,933 --> 00:15:38,334
I think she's one of
the most consistent
307
00:15:38,336 --> 00:15:41,270
and hands-on
dead people here.
308
00:15:41,272 --> 00:15:44,140
She reaches out a lot.
309
00:15:44,142 --> 00:15:45,941
I think that the living
would see her.
310
00:15:45,943 --> 00:15:47,343
I think they would feel her.
311
00:15:47,345 --> 00:15:49,278
I see her getting into bed
with people.
312
00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:51,413
I see her holding on to people.
313
00:15:51,415 --> 00:15:55,151
She's very, like, consuming.
314
00:15:55,153 --> 00:15:58,088
So I think that the living
would have a lot
315
00:15:58,090 --> 00:16:02,625
of the physical illness.
316
00:16:02,627 --> 00:16:06,696
She kind of drains
their energy.
317
00:16:06,698 --> 00:16:11,234
Burning up so hot,
she was terrible.
318
00:16:11,236 --> 00:16:12,302
It's horrible.
319
00:16:30,454 --> 00:16:34,389
Carissa's got a cemetery
right behind her house.
320
00:16:34,391 --> 00:16:36,792
It's not every day
I get a lead this good.
321
00:16:36,794 --> 00:16:38,393
So I'm headed back
to the property
322
00:16:38,395 --> 00:16:40,195
to meet an historian who says
323
00:16:40,197 --> 00:16:42,798
that the cemetery
is filled with dead kids,
324
00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:45,800
and most of them died
the same horrible way.
325
00:16:50,940 --> 00:16:53,008
Well, Elaine, I appreciate you
helping me out with this case.
326
00:16:53,010 --> 00:16:55,477
Now, before we get to all these
dead people here,
327
00:16:55,479 --> 00:16:58,145
what do you know
about the cemetery itself?
328
00:16:58,147 --> 00:17:00,482
This is the Morrow-Bobbitt
Cemetery.
329
00:17:00,484 --> 00:17:02,884
Where does the name
Morrow-Bobbitt come from?
330
00:17:02,886 --> 00:17:05,486
All of this land here,
it was a very large farm
331
00:17:05,488 --> 00:17:07,422
owned by the Morrow family,
332
00:17:07,424 --> 00:17:09,691
and then later,
they sold it to the Bobbitts,
333
00:17:09,693 --> 00:17:11,092
but all of these lots,
334
00:17:11,094 --> 00:17:13,761
including the property
that you're looking at,
335
00:17:13,763 --> 00:17:16,431
they're all on
the Morrow property.
336
00:17:16,433 --> 00:17:17,899
So, Elaine, you mentioned
on the phone
337
00:17:17,901 --> 00:17:21,169
that this cemetery is filled
with a lot of dead kids, right?
338
00:17:21,171 --> 00:17:22,570
What's the story with that?
339
00:17:22,572 --> 00:17:27,642
This cemetery was largely
for cholera-era victims -- Okay.
340
00:17:27,644 --> 00:17:30,711
...infants,
toddlers, teenagers,
341
00:17:30,713 --> 00:17:33,247
people in their 20s cut down
in their prime of life.
342
00:17:33,249 --> 00:17:35,717
So was this area hit hard
with this epidemic?
343
00:17:35,719 --> 00:17:38,719
Yes, I think worse than
in the big cities
344
00:17:38,721 --> 00:17:40,188
because in the rural areas,
345
00:17:40,190 --> 00:17:44,992
they would actually fertilize
with human sewage sometimes.
346
00:17:44,994 --> 00:17:47,195
So when did most of these
people die?
347
00:17:47,197 --> 00:17:49,264
In the 1840s, 1850s.
348
00:17:49,266 --> 00:17:52,466
So I know about cholera from
my past investigations,
349
00:17:52,468 --> 00:17:54,335
but remind me,
what were the symptoms of that?
350
00:17:54,337 --> 00:17:56,671
Fever,
there would be vomiting.
351
00:17:56,673 --> 00:18:01,409
The main thing was diarrhea,
and there would be deaths
352
00:18:01,411 --> 00:18:05,880
and burials every few days,
if not every day.
353
00:18:05,882 --> 00:18:09,417
Would any of the original owners
of my client's property
354
00:18:09,419 --> 00:18:11,552
died from that
and been buried here? Yes.
355
00:18:11,554 --> 00:18:15,957
Two of the Morrow daughters died
during the cholera epidemic -- Okay.
356
00:18:15,959 --> 00:18:18,426
...and they're buried
right over here,
357
00:18:18,428 --> 00:18:21,229
and their names
were Amanda and Alecta.
358
00:18:25,302 --> 00:18:26,634
I'm seeing
the pioneer woman again,
359
00:18:26,636 --> 00:18:31,039
and she's sick,
can't stand up very well...
360
00:18:35,845 --> 00:18:38,914
...burning up so hot
that she felt tired a lot.
361
00:18:38,916 --> 00:18:41,383
She couldn't breathe
at the end,
362
00:18:41,385 --> 00:18:45,387
felt like she was choking,
drowning.
363
00:18:45,389 --> 00:18:49,791
It's more like drowning.
364
00:18:49,793 --> 00:18:52,527
A lot of her symptoms,
like vomiting and diarrhea
365
00:18:52,529 --> 00:18:57,398
and fever, very sad.
366
00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:58,867
How old did she seem to be?
367
00:18:58,869 --> 00:19:01,870
About 17 or 18,
but I think she died here
368
00:19:01,872 --> 00:19:04,005
a long, long, long time ago.
369
00:19:04,007 --> 00:19:06,674
Do you know when this was?
370
00:19:06,676 --> 00:19:10,478
Mid-18, early to mid-1800s.
371
00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:12,080
I think she was buried here.
372
00:19:18,821 --> 00:19:21,556
So before I got to town,
I called the local cops
373
00:19:21,558 --> 00:19:23,758
and asked them to do
some digging for me.
374
00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:25,293
A sergeant just called me back
375
00:19:25,295 --> 00:19:27,162
and says he's got
something good.
376
00:19:27,164 --> 00:19:28,829
Turns out there was
a brutal murder
377
00:19:28,831 --> 00:19:31,900
just 350 feet
from Carissa's front door,
378
00:19:31,902 --> 00:19:34,970
and it all started
with a drunken family fight.
379
00:19:41,978 --> 00:19:43,644
So, Sergeant Kelley,
I appreciate you helping me
380
00:19:43,646 --> 00:19:44,779
out with my investigation.
381
00:19:44,781 --> 00:19:47,048
So you told me there was
a murder
382
00:19:47,050 --> 00:19:49,050
down the block
from my client's house.
383
00:19:49,052 --> 00:19:50,317
What do we know
about this thing?
384
00:19:50,319 --> 00:19:55,123
Well, in May of 1879,
44-year-old Servitus Swartz,
385
00:19:55,125 --> 00:19:57,926
who was running a saloon,
on this day,
386
00:19:57,928 --> 00:20:00,795
his brother-in-law,
Ezekiel Ruse, showed up,
387
00:20:00,797 --> 00:20:03,664
and he was belligerent
and drunk.
388
00:20:03,666 --> 00:20:05,400
- A photo.
- This is Ezekiel?
389
00:20:05,402 --> 00:20:07,068
Correct. That's Ezekiel.
390
00:20:07,070 --> 00:20:09,203
Ezekiel wants to join
a game of cards
391
00:20:09,205 --> 00:20:10,738
with a couple of guys
in the saloon,
392
00:20:10,740 --> 00:20:12,940
and the guys want nothing
to do with him,
393
00:20:12,942 --> 00:20:15,076
so Ezekiel gets agitated,
394
00:20:15,078 --> 00:20:16,745
tries to start a fight
with the guys,
395
00:20:16,747 --> 00:20:19,480
and that's when his
brother-in-law had to step in.
396
00:20:19,482 --> 00:20:20,881
How's that come to murder?
397
00:20:20,883 --> 00:20:23,284
Ezekiel picks up one of
the wooden barstools
398
00:20:23,286 --> 00:20:27,355
and bashes Servitus
over the head,
399
00:20:27,357 --> 00:20:30,358
and a week later, he dies.
400
00:20:30,360 --> 00:20:32,427
So Ezekiel kills his
brother-in-law.
401
00:20:32,429 --> 00:20:33,494
What happens to him?
402
00:20:33,496 --> 00:20:35,630
Well, he got convicted
for murder
403
00:20:35,632 --> 00:20:37,431
and sentenced
to 10 years hard labor
404
00:20:37,433 --> 00:20:42,103
in the Ohio State Penitentiary,
and I got an article on it.
405
00:20:42,105 --> 00:20:44,105
What happens to this guy?
Does he make it out of jail?
406
00:20:44,107 --> 00:20:45,773
Does he die in there?
What happened?
407
00:20:45,775 --> 00:20:48,576
He gets released.
He goes right back to drinking.
408
00:20:48,578 --> 00:20:52,780
His health fades quick,
and in 1893,
409
00:20:52,782 --> 00:20:54,515
he died at the age of 51.
410
00:20:54,517 --> 00:20:56,985
So the stuff that got him
put in jail in the first place,
411
00:20:56,987 --> 00:20:59,387
he goes back to,
and he winds up dying from it.
412
00:20:59,389 --> 00:21:02,457
Correct.
413
00:21:02,459 --> 00:21:06,260
I'm seeing the guy who was
bouncing off the walls again.
414
00:21:06,262 --> 00:21:10,665
I think he looks gruff or rough,
short hair,
415
00:21:10,667 --> 00:21:13,334
which is kind of, like,
a salt-and-pepper,
416
00:21:13,336 --> 00:21:15,803
brown and grays.
417
00:21:15,805 --> 00:21:19,941
I would say
he's in his 50s, 60s.
418
00:21:19,943 --> 00:21:23,544
I'm getting a lot of
drinking, alcohol.
419
00:21:23,546 --> 00:21:27,082
He feels broken and sad
420
00:21:27,084 --> 00:21:30,618
and trying to numb out a lot.
421
00:21:35,092 --> 00:21:40,895
The base of my head hurts a lot
into the left side of my neck.
422
00:21:40,897 --> 00:21:43,464
I'm gonna say that more
than likely,
423
00:21:43,466 --> 00:21:47,168
he drank himself to death,
so that's not good.
424
00:21:54,844 --> 00:21:56,777
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425
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426
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428
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429
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430
00:22:20,619 --> 00:22:23,553
So far, I have a client
terrified something in her house
431
00:22:23,555 --> 00:22:26,890
is trying to kill her
and her family on her property
432
00:22:26,892 --> 00:22:29,359
right next door
to an old cemetery,
433
00:22:29,361 --> 00:22:34,431
but I want to see
if there's anything else.
434
00:22:34,433 --> 00:22:37,301
Searching through old records,
I find George Remus,
435
00:22:37,303 --> 00:22:39,837
a notorious bootlegger
who ran a distillery
436
00:22:39,839 --> 00:22:42,706
less than a half mile
from Carissa's house.
437
00:22:42,708 --> 00:22:45,241
So I got to know more
about this bootlegger.
438
00:22:45,243 --> 00:22:47,978
I'm headed over to meet
my old buddy, Lou Hebert.
439
00:22:47,980 --> 00:22:49,313
He's an historical author.
440
00:22:49,315 --> 00:22:53,250
He says this guy ran Lynchburg
with an iron fist,
441
00:22:53,252 --> 00:22:56,253
and anyone who crossed him
paid the ultimate price.
442
00:23:00,860 --> 00:23:03,660
Well, Lou, I appreciate you
helping me out once again.
443
00:23:03,662 --> 00:23:05,128
- Sure.
- Now, you mentioned on the phone
444
00:23:05,130 --> 00:23:06,930
this bootlegger
was a real hard-ass.
445
00:23:06,932 --> 00:23:08,265
What can you tell me
about this guy?
446
00:23:08,267 --> 00:23:10,200
George Remus started out
447
00:23:10,202 --> 00:23:12,869
as a criminal defense attorney
in Chicago
448
00:23:12,871 --> 00:23:16,673
but then decided he wanted to be
maybe a little more successful,
449
00:23:16,675 --> 00:23:19,743
and so he decided
to become a bootlegger.
450
00:23:19,745 --> 00:23:22,079
Now, I know he becomes
pretty famous for that,
451
00:23:22,081 --> 00:23:23,613
so how's he do that?
452
00:23:23,615 --> 00:23:27,550
He buys a bunch of distilleries
in the Ohio and Kentucky area,
453
00:23:27,552 --> 00:23:30,087
and one of the distilleries
he bought in the 1920s
454
00:23:30,089 --> 00:23:33,357
was about 2,500 feet
from your client's property.
455
00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:37,560
This was a major operation,
and in fact, it was so big,
456
00:23:37,562 --> 00:23:39,029
at one time, they can store
457
00:23:39,031 --> 00:23:43,299
as many as 600,000 gallons
of whiskey there.
458
00:23:43,301 --> 00:23:45,568
It's Prohibition.
How did he pull that off?
459
00:23:45,570 --> 00:23:48,505
He becomes a maker
of medicinal alcohol,
460
00:23:48,507 --> 00:23:50,240
which was legal
during Prohibition.
461
00:23:50,242 --> 00:23:53,444
Then a lot of this alcohol
disappears.
462
00:23:53,446 --> 00:23:54,578
It's lost.
463
00:23:54,580 --> 00:23:57,447
It's stolen, and of course,
464
00:23:57,449 --> 00:23:59,315
it makes it way
to the black market,
465
00:23:59,317 --> 00:24:01,584
and George profits from it.
466
00:24:01,586 --> 00:24:03,053
So this guy was
pretty successful.
467
00:24:03,055 --> 00:24:07,724
Yeah, very successful,
made $40 million in three years.
468
00:24:07,726 --> 00:24:09,592
In fact, he was so successful,
469
00:24:09,594 --> 00:24:13,130
he named himself
the King of the Bootleggers.
470
00:24:13,132 --> 00:24:14,531
So you had mentioned
on the phone
471
00:24:14,533 --> 00:24:17,367
also that he ruled
with an iron fist.
472
00:24:17,369 --> 00:24:18,869
Yeah. This is Prohibition.
473
00:24:18,871 --> 00:24:20,471
This is a hardball game,
474
00:24:20,473 --> 00:24:22,606
and some of his business
associates,
475
00:24:22,608 --> 00:24:25,609
yes, ended up
with bullet holes in them.
476
00:24:25,611 --> 00:24:29,413
Everybody knew you don't mess
with George Remus.
477
00:24:29,415 --> 00:24:31,881
All right, so this is obviously
a mug shot of the guy.
478
00:24:31,883 --> 00:24:33,283
When did he get busted?
479
00:24:33,285 --> 00:24:37,487
In 1925, Remus actually goes
to prison for bootlegging.
480
00:24:37,489 --> 00:24:38,755
He gets a two-year sentence.
481
00:24:38,757 --> 00:24:40,557
He's down at the federal
penitentiary in Atlanta.
482
00:24:40,559 --> 00:24:43,293
While he's away,
his wife, Imogene,
483
00:24:43,295 --> 00:24:45,562
decides she's gonna have
an affair,
484
00:24:45,564 --> 00:24:49,365
and insult to injury, he gets
back home, and guess what.
485
00:24:49,367 --> 00:24:51,769
Imogene, his wife,
files for divorce.
486
00:24:51,771 --> 00:24:53,970
So I'm guessing this guy
didn't take that too well.
487
00:24:53,972 --> 00:24:56,973
Well, October 6th, 1927,
488
00:24:56,975 --> 00:25:00,044
George Remus
takes off after her,
489
00:25:00,046 --> 00:25:03,379
gets into a park
in downtown Cincinnati,
490
00:25:03,381 --> 00:25:06,650
pulls her out of a taxi
and shoots her,
491
00:25:06,652 --> 00:25:10,120
broad daylight
in front of everybody.
492
00:25:10,122 --> 00:25:12,122
Everybody sees this,
and does he get arrested?
493
00:25:12,124 --> 00:25:13,123
Yeah. He's arrested.
494
00:25:13,125 --> 00:25:15,125
He actually turns himself
into police.
495
00:25:15,127 --> 00:25:18,462
He pleads temporary insanity,
and guess what?
496
00:25:18,464 --> 00:25:22,933
The jury buys it,
and so he gets off scot-free.
497
00:25:22,935 --> 00:25:25,002
He's a free man.
498
00:25:25,004 --> 00:25:29,672
Okay.
499
00:25:29,674 --> 00:25:32,276
There's that angry
old man again.
500
00:25:32,278 --> 00:25:33,943
Can you describe him more?
501
00:25:33,945 --> 00:25:38,882
White, tall, probably put him
in his late 60s.
502
00:25:38,884 --> 00:25:41,418
I hear a name, George.
503
00:25:41,420 --> 00:25:45,822
He was wearing what looked to me
like a white doctor's coat.
504
00:25:45,824 --> 00:25:49,226
He had money
and was very educated.
505
00:25:49,228 --> 00:25:53,630
To the side of him was, like,
a small ditch little thing
506
00:25:53,632 --> 00:25:57,767
that had some
kind of substance in it.
507
00:25:57,769 --> 00:26:00,570
He's somehow connected
to this small trench
508
00:26:00,572 --> 00:26:04,641
that's flowing
with a dark substance.
509
00:26:07,712 --> 00:26:10,047
It's part of him.
510
00:26:10,049 --> 00:26:12,449
He's telling me to get
the **** off his land.
511
00:26:12,451 --> 00:26:14,118
You know,
he's threatening me, like,
512
00:26:14,120 --> 00:26:18,855
saying something
about running people off before.
513
00:26:18,857 --> 00:26:21,457
He was definitely
a really bad person.
514
00:26:29,535 --> 00:26:33,203
I saw several disturbing things
on my walk, but two stood out --
515
00:26:33,205 --> 00:26:36,006
first, the angry old man.
516
00:26:36,008 --> 00:26:38,408
He's probably in his late 60s
517
00:26:38,410 --> 00:26:42,946
to early 70s, very large eyes.
518
00:26:45,150 --> 00:26:48,785
- His jaw was soft --
- Okay.
519
00:26:48,787 --> 00:26:50,154
...more oval.
520
00:26:50,156 --> 00:26:51,221
Okay.
521
00:26:51,223 --> 00:26:53,223
Next, I describe
the shadow woman
522
00:26:53,225 --> 00:26:56,426
tormenting a living person
in their bedroom.
523
00:26:56,428 --> 00:26:59,296
She has extremely long hair.
524
00:26:59,298 --> 00:27:03,499
She has these red, like,
round, piercing eyes,
525
00:27:03,501 --> 00:27:07,971
and she was preceding
to crawl onto the bed.
526
00:27:14,646 --> 00:27:16,913
Amy, is this what you saw?
527
00:27:16,915 --> 00:27:18,515
Yes. That's what I saw.
528
00:27:44,508 --> 00:27:47,910
Now that Amy and I have
completed our investigations,
529
00:27:47,912 --> 00:27:50,380
we're ready to reveal
our findings to each other
530
00:27:50,382 --> 00:27:53,849
and our clients
for the first time.
531
00:27:53,851 --> 00:27:57,653
So, Amy, I'd like you to meet
Carissa and her husband, Terry.
532
00:27:57,655 --> 00:27:59,856
Now, they live here
with Carissa's mother
533
00:27:59,858 --> 00:28:02,125
and their two kids.
534
00:28:02,127 --> 00:28:03,993
Now, this is Eric, who's 15.
535
00:28:03,995 --> 00:28:07,263
This is Keira, who's 7,
and this is her mom.
536
00:28:07,265 --> 00:28:10,533
Activity here is getting
more violent by the day,
537
00:28:10,535 --> 00:28:13,736
and these two don't think it's
safe for anybody to be here,
538
00:28:13,738 --> 00:28:15,871
so unless Amy has got
some questions,
539
00:28:15,873 --> 00:28:20,543
we'll hear about her walk.
540
00:28:20,545 --> 00:28:22,345
So when I first walked in,
541
00:28:22,347 --> 00:28:26,148
I encountered a male
who's deceased,
542
00:28:26,150 --> 00:28:30,152
and he was a mess.
543
00:28:30,154 --> 00:28:32,422
To me, he seemed drunk.
544
00:28:32,424 --> 00:28:34,757
I saw him
kind of running around.
545
00:28:34,759 --> 00:28:37,359
I thought you'd hear him, like,
knocking on the walls,
546
00:28:37,361 --> 00:28:41,831
trying to move things around,
especially in that area.
547
00:28:41,833 --> 00:28:43,566
It sounds like something fell,
548
00:28:43,568 --> 00:28:46,302
and you go look for it,
and nothing fell.
549
00:28:47,772 --> 00:28:49,839
Any idea who this guy might
have been when he was alive?
550
00:28:49,841 --> 00:28:50,974
This is what I got.
551
00:28:50,976 --> 00:28:54,176
In his 50s or 60s,
he had a short kind of buzz cut
552
00:28:54,178 --> 00:28:58,047
with brown and gray hair,
really tan skin
553
00:28:58,049 --> 00:29:00,516
I think from working often
in the sun.
554
00:29:00,518 --> 00:29:04,520
I did get a lot of head
and neck pain with him.
555
00:29:04,522 --> 00:29:06,923
I got that he was drinking
a lot,
556
00:29:06,925 --> 00:29:09,392
trying to numb the pain
he was feeling,
557
00:29:09,394 --> 00:29:14,397
and I kind of was thinking that
maybe he drank himself to death.
558
00:29:14,399 --> 00:29:16,399
So a lot of things
you mentioned reminded me
559
00:29:16,401 --> 00:29:19,401
of a guy that came up
in my research, this guy,
560
00:29:19,403 --> 00:29:20,937
Ezekiel Ruse.
561
00:29:20,939 --> 00:29:22,071
He was a drunk.
562
00:29:22,073 --> 00:29:23,873
He used to live
in this neighborhood.
563
00:29:23,875 --> 00:29:27,276
On May of 1879, he went to a bar
that his brother-in-law
564
00:29:27,278 --> 00:29:30,413
owned and operated
about 350 feet from here.
565
00:29:30,415 --> 00:29:32,614
This guy, Ruse, tried to get
into a card game with two guys,
566
00:29:32,616 --> 00:29:34,817
but he was already drunk
when he got there,
567
00:29:34,819 --> 00:29:36,285
and they wanted nothing
to do with him.
568
00:29:36,287 --> 00:29:38,654
So Ruse tried to pick a fight
with these guys,
569
00:29:38,656 --> 00:29:41,090
and the brother-in-law
intervened.
570
00:29:41,092 --> 00:29:43,626
Ruse winded up cracking
the brother-in-law in the head
571
00:29:43,628 --> 00:29:48,764
with a barstool, fracturing
his skull and killing him.
572
00:29:48,766 --> 00:29:50,433
You said the guy you saw
was working outside,
573
00:29:50,435 --> 00:29:51,701
and he had that tan.
574
00:29:51,703 --> 00:29:54,369
He got convicted and was given
a 10-year sentence
575
00:29:54,371 --> 00:29:56,305
at the Ohio State Penitentiary,
576
00:29:56,307 --> 00:29:58,574
and he was sentenced
to hard labor.
577
00:29:58,576 --> 00:30:00,576
Ruse winded up getting out,
578
00:30:00,578 --> 00:30:03,045
but he started drinking again,
and like the guy you saw,
579
00:30:03,047 --> 00:30:05,047
he winded up
drinking himself to death.
580
00:30:05,049 --> 00:30:08,584
He died in 1893
at the age of 51.
581
00:30:08,586 --> 00:30:10,987
I actually got a photo of Ruse.
582
00:30:13,791 --> 00:30:15,991
Any chance this guy might
have been the drunk you saw?
583
00:30:15,993 --> 00:30:17,726
It's possible, yeah.
584
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,000
Okay. What else?
585
00:30:24,002 --> 00:30:26,335
The next person I encountered,
586
00:30:26,337 --> 00:30:29,338
I'll refer to him
as the drinking man's brother
587
00:30:29,340 --> 00:30:32,274
because they kind
of resembled each other.
588
00:30:32,276 --> 00:30:34,543
He's bad news.
589
00:30:34,545 --> 00:30:39,215
I got that he bullies any living
person he doesn't care for.
590
00:30:39,217 --> 00:30:41,083
There are, I feel, a few ways
591
00:30:41,085 --> 00:30:44,086
that you would be able
to experience him.
592
00:30:44,088 --> 00:30:47,690
The first thing is, he carries
the winter with him,
593
00:30:47,692 --> 00:30:52,294
so it's always ice-cold
around him.
594
00:30:52,296 --> 00:30:54,230
We'd be sitting here
in the house,
595
00:30:54,232 --> 00:30:55,898
and it was very comfortable,
596
00:30:55,900 --> 00:30:59,235
and then all of a sudden,
it's cold.
597
00:30:59,237 --> 00:31:01,770
You may be able to see him.
598
00:31:01,772 --> 00:31:04,773
He's pretty about
showing himself.
599
00:31:04,775 --> 00:31:08,177
Keira has an issue with a guy
in her closet, right?
600
00:31:09,647 --> 00:31:14,717
She said he had on blue pants
and a blue shirt and brown hair,
601
00:31:14,719 --> 00:31:16,585
and she goes,
"I didn't like him.
602
00:31:16,587 --> 00:31:19,455
I didn't like him at all.
He's not nice."
603
00:31:19,457 --> 00:31:22,658
That's interesting.
604
00:31:22,660 --> 00:31:24,126
All right, what else?
605
00:31:24,128 --> 00:31:25,661
Okay.
606
00:31:25,663 --> 00:31:28,197
This was another dead guy,
607
00:31:28,199 --> 00:31:31,000
older male in his 60s or 70s.
608
00:31:31,002 --> 00:31:36,539
I saw him standing with one foot
in, like, a trench.
609
00:31:36,541 --> 00:31:39,341
It's just this dark liquid.
610
00:31:39,343 --> 00:31:41,210
It was obviously important
to him
611
00:31:41,212 --> 00:31:43,612
because he kept his foot in it.
612
00:31:43,614 --> 00:31:47,950
At one point, there was a name,
George, stated.
613
00:31:47,952 --> 00:31:52,154
I got that he was highly
educated, had a lot of money.
614
00:31:52,156 --> 00:31:56,892
He absolutely feels like
he's the boss of this land,
615
00:31:56,894 --> 00:32:02,231
and he does not want
people on his property.
616
00:32:02,233 --> 00:32:06,435
Okay, rich, educated,
dark substance, the name George.
617
00:32:06,437 --> 00:32:08,104
I think I know who you saw.
618
00:32:08,106 --> 00:32:10,272
The guy's name was George Remus.
619
00:32:10,274 --> 00:32:13,041
Now, he was a highly educated
attorney from Chicago
620
00:32:13,043 --> 00:32:14,577
that became the king of
the bootleggers
621
00:32:14,579 --> 00:32:16,245
during Prohibition.
622
00:32:16,247 --> 00:32:17,312
What?
623
00:32:17,314 --> 00:32:19,248
He owned a massive
whiskey distillery
624
00:32:19,250 --> 00:32:21,183
about 2,500 feet from here.
625
00:32:21,185 --> 00:32:23,452
Maybe it was whiskey
he was standing in.
626
00:32:23,454 --> 00:32:26,322
Here's a couple of photos
627
00:32:26,324 --> 00:32:29,191
of how big of an operation
it was back then.
628
00:32:29,193 --> 00:32:31,260
Holy...
629
00:32:31,262 --> 00:32:33,328
What, all of this?
630
00:32:33,330 --> 00:32:36,198
Yeah.
631
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:40,736
1925, George got locked up on
a two-year bootlegging sentence.
632
00:32:40,738 --> 00:32:42,004
Now, while he was in prison,
633
00:32:42,006 --> 00:32:45,073
his wife, Imogene,
had an affair.
634
00:32:45,075 --> 00:32:47,342
When he got out,
he chased her down
635
00:32:47,344 --> 00:32:50,813
in a public park in Cincinnati
and shot her twice, killing her.
636
00:32:55,086 --> 00:32:57,419
But believe it or not,
he got off scot-free.
637
00:32:57,421 --> 00:33:00,289
I got a photo of George Remus,
but it was when he was younger.
638
00:33:02,694 --> 00:33:04,694
Now you think the guy
you saw was him?
639
00:33:04,696 --> 00:33:08,364
I did have a sketch done of
the individual I encountered.
640
00:33:19,244 --> 00:33:21,777
Yeah, kind of
is in the eyes...
641
00:33:21,779 --> 00:33:23,512
- The eyes, yeah.
- ...and the ears.
642
00:33:23,514 --> 00:33:27,650
Yeah.
The could definitely be him.
643
00:33:27,652 --> 00:33:30,386
I feel like he's ****
looking at me.
644
00:33:34,325 --> 00:33:36,392
Okay. What else?
645
00:33:36,394 --> 00:33:40,329
The next person was a young
woman in her late teens.
646
00:33:40,331 --> 00:33:43,866
She was from back
in the mid-1800s,
647
00:33:43,868 --> 00:33:47,336
very much still in her
death state, unfortunately.
648
00:33:47,338 --> 00:33:50,339
I couldn't exactly get what
she died from,
649
00:33:50,341 --> 00:33:54,276
but I know that she was dealing
with vomiting, nausea,
650
00:33:54,278 --> 00:33:56,612
diarrhea, fever.
651
00:33:56,614 --> 00:33:59,081
I got that she did die
on the property,
652
00:33:59,083 --> 00:34:00,615
and at the time of death,
653
00:34:00,617 --> 00:34:05,153
she felt extremely isolated
and alone.
654
00:34:05,155 --> 00:34:08,157
All right, I got an idea of who
she might be talking about.
655
00:34:08,159 --> 00:34:09,758
Now, right behind
the backyard here
656
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:13,062
is the oldest pioneer
cemetery in Lynchburg. Damn.
657
00:34:13,064 --> 00:34:15,965
There are at least 75 bodies
back there,
658
00:34:15,967 --> 00:34:17,499
and most of them
are young people
659
00:34:17,501 --> 00:34:22,705
who died during the cholera
epidemics during the mid-1800s.
660
00:34:22,707 --> 00:34:24,173
Two of the kids buried
back there
661
00:34:24,175 --> 00:34:27,443
are daughters of the Morrow
family that owned the property.
662
00:34:27,445 --> 00:34:30,846
Amanda Morrow died
in 1838 at the age of 24.
663
00:34:30,848 --> 00:34:34,717
Her sister, Alecta,
died in 1842 at the age of 21.
664
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,453
Symptoms of cholera are exactly
what you described --
665
00:34:37,455 --> 00:34:39,722
vomiting, fever, diarrhea.
666
00:34:39,724 --> 00:34:42,791
So would this pioneer woman
667
00:34:42,793 --> 00:34:44,860
do anything to curse her
and the family?
668
00:34:44,862 --> 00:34:46,028
Yes.
669
00:34:46,030 --> 00:34:48,263
So I felt like
when she's around,
670
00:34:48,265 --> 00:34:51,133
you would feel sadness
and depression.
671
00:34:51,135 --> 00:34:54,803
She's always trying to hug
or hold the living,
672
00:34:54,805 --> 00:34:56,939
so she's accidentally
draining their energy
673
00:34:56,941 --> 00:34:59,275
and making them feel sick.
674
00:34:59,277 --> 00:35:01,610
Isn't some of the things she's
talking about happening to Eric?
675
00:35:01,612 --> 00:35:02,945
Yeah.
676
00:35:02,947 --> 00:35:06,015
He was a totally different kid
before we moved here.
677
00:35:06,017 --> 00:35:07,550
He's not the same kid.
678
00:35:07,552 --> 00:35:09,952
He's afraid he's losing
his mind.
679
00:35:09,954 --> 00:35:12,488
Well, I'm sure it feels
like that, yeah.
680
00:35:12,490 --> 00:35:14,356
It would, you know?
681
00:35:14,358 --> 00:35:17,559
It's possible that this
young woman went to him
682
00:35:17,561 --> 00:35:21,163
and maybe has now
formed cords into him.
683
00:35:27,171 --> 00:35:30,639
Now, I want to get
to the biggest threat.
684
00:35:30,641 --> 00:35:32,641
She had been murdered
685
00:35:32,643 --> 00:35:35,044
and buried
somewhere close to here.
686
00:35:35,046 --> 00:35:39,648
She's extremely angry
about what happened to her,
687
00:35:39,650 --> 00:35:42,651
and unfortunately,
she takes it out
688
00:35:42,653 --> 00:35:45,921
on any person
that comes around.
689
00:35:45,923 --> 00:35:47,990
There were two main ways
that I saw her.
690
00:35:47,992 --> 00:35:51,060
One was in the shape
of a shadow figure
691
00:35:51,062 --> 00:35:56,265
but female with red eyes,
and then, also,
692
00:35:56,267 --> 00:36:00,469
she becomes, like,
looks like a deformed spider.
693
00:36:00,471 --> 00:36:01,604
When she said the red eyes,
694
00:36:01,606 --> 00:36:03,539
I looked at you right away.
695
00:36:03,541 --> 00:36:08,744
I've seen her twice in
Keira's room, the same window.
696
00:36:08,746 --> 00:36:13,482
It's a black shadow
and the two red eyes.
697
00:36:14,952 --> 00:36:17,486
Now, she mentioned
a smaller shadow figure.
698
00:36:17,488 --> 00:36:19,555
You described that to me also.
699
00:36:19,557 --> 00:36:21,690
I kept seeing something out
of the corner of my eye
700
00:36:21,692 --> 00:36:25,293
running around the floor,
running around the ceiling.
701
00:36:25,295 --> 00:36:27,963
She can touch, push,
and shove.
702
00:36:27,965 --> 00:36:30,633
She took one of the fingers
and wrapped it around my throat
703
00:36:30,635 --> 00:36:32,501
and was, like,
strangling me.
704
00:36:32,503 --> 00:36:37,973
I got pinned to the wall
and just felt like somebody
705
00:36:37,975 --> 00:36:41,777
had their hands
around my throat,
706
00:36:41,779 --> 00:36:43,378
and I couldn't breathe,
707
00:36:43,380 --> 00:36:47,650
and it was just a scratch
that come down and like this.
708
00:36:47,652 --> 00:36:49,785
- Okay.
- I actually have a photo.
709
00:36:49,787 --> 00:36:53,122
It's the weirdest scratch
I've ever seen.
710
00:36:53,124 --> 00:36:54,857
Interesting. Okay.
711
00:36:54,859 --> 00:36:56,792
Totally makes sense.
712
00:36:56,794 --> 00:37:00,662
She can affect
the living emotionally,
713
00:37:00,664 --> 00:37:03,065
very angry and then very sad.
714
00:37:03,067 --> 00:37:05,468
It's, like, one or the other.
715
00:37:05,470 --> 00:37:10,138
I will be fine
and then in such
716
00:37:10,140 --> 00:37:13,008
a violent rage
717
00:37:13,010 --> 00:37:17,612
that I want
to tear somebody apart.
718
00:37:17,614 --> 00:37:19,548
I'll snap at her for no reason.
719
00:37:19,550 --> 00:37:21,817
20 minutes later,
you forget about it.
720
00:37:21,819 --> 00:37:24,486
You don't even know
why you even snapped.
721
00:37:24,488 --> 00:37:26,889
I saw her doing something
really dangerous
722
00:37:26,891 --> 00:37:29,090
in one of
the bedrooms down here.
723
00:37:29,092 --> 00:37:31,494
She's crawling onto this person
724
00:37:31,496 --> 00:37:34,964
and just, like,
melding with them.
725
00:37:34,966 --> 00:37:38,433
I know that this person
specifically is suffering
726
00:37:38,435 --> 00:37:40,102
due to that.
727
00:37:40,104 --> 00:37:41,437
Didn't your mom wake up
one night,
728
00:37:41,439 --> 00:37:42,771
and there was a shadow
figure standing over her?
729
00:37:42,773 --> 00:37:44,573
Standing over top of her.
730
00:37:44,575 --> 00:37:47,843
This was the day before
I put her in the hospital.
731
00:37:49,313 --> 00:37:52,314
So I did have a sketch done.
732
00:37:52,316 --> 00:37:53,515
Okay.
733
00:38:18,743 --> 00:38:20,809
I saw that if it's allowed
to continue
734
00:38:20,811 --> 00:38:26,081
that she would definitely end
up killing this person.
735
00:38:26,083 --> 00:38:28,083
Okay.
736
00:38:28,085 --> 00:38:30,419
Can...
737
00:38:30,421 --> 00:38:31,353
Yeah, sure.
738
00:38:39,162 --> 00:38:41,963
This is the most awful
thing I've ever seen in my life.
739
00:39:03,820 --> 00:39:05,887
Now, Carissa, you told me
your biggest fear
740
00:39:05,889 --> 00:39:08,823
was that something here
was trying to kill your mother.
741
00:39:08,825 --> 00:39:11,359
Unfortunately,
you were 100% right,
742
00:39:11,361 --> 00:39:13,628
and the way it sounds,
this place isn't safe
743
00:39:13,630 --> 00:39:16,898
for any of you guys,
so now it's time to see
744
00:39:16,900 --> 00:39:18,566
if there's anything
you can do about that.
745
00:39:18,568 --> 00:39:20,235
For that, I'm gonna
turn it over to Amy.
746
00:39:23,707 --> 00:39:26,441
You definitely have a choice
to make here.
747
00:39:26,443 --> 00:39:29,444
One option is to move,
748
00:39:29,446 --> 00:39:33,114
but if you decide to stay,
749
00:39:33,116 --> 00:39:37,519
you would need to vacate
the premises as soon as possible
750
00:39:37,521 --> 00:39:40,255
until a group of people
751
00:39:40,257 --> 00:39:44,325
can come here
to deal with the situation.
752
00:39:44,327 --> 00:39:46,727
The first thing that
they would do
753
00:39:46,729 --> 00:39:50,332
would be to remove
the shadow woman.
754
00:39:50,334 --> 00:39:55,269
This is gonna be quite
a struggle for them, honestly.
755
00:39:55,271 --> 00:39:58,272
There's maybe a 75% chance
756
00:39:58,274 --> 00:40:03,278
that they would be able
to contain and fully remove her.
757
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:06,481
The second thing they would do
is call the dead men
758
00:40:06,483 --> 00:40:12,286
so that then they can proceed
to remove each of them.
759
00:40:12,288 --> 00:40:14,155
So you're talking about
the drunk guy, Ezekiel,
760
00:40:14,157 --> 00:40:16,757
and his brother?
- Yes.
761
00:40:16,759 --> 00:40:18,893
Will they get rid
of George Remus, as well?
762
00:40:18,895 --> 00:40:22,297
No. They would have to go
763
00:40:22,299 --> 00:40:26,367
to Cincinnati to do that.
764
00:40:26,369 --> 00:40:28,302
That's where he killed
his wife.
765
00:40:28,304 --> 00:40:31,906
Yes.
766
00:40:31,908 --> 00:40:37,512
Next, your son would need
to have the cords cut
767
00:40:37,514 --> 00:40:42,050
that the pioneer girl
has placed inside of him.
768
00:40:42,052 --> 00:40:44,052
It's way worse than I thought.
769
00:40:44,054 --> 00:40:47,655
Well, if you lived here, would
you try to fix this and stay?
770
00:40:47,657 --> 00:40:52,393
I would
probably move, yeah.
771
00:40:52,395 --> 00:40:56,998
It's a lot of decision-making
right there.
772
00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:01,202
Not really.
773
00:41:01,204 --> 00:41:05,273
I don't feel like it's worth
staying here.
774
00:41:05,275 --> 00:41:10,945
That chance is too big.
775
00:41:10,947 --> 00:41:14,215
You know, I'm ready to move
as far as I can.
776
00:41:14,217 --> 00:41:16,451
A building can be replaced.
777
00:41:16,453 --> 00:41:20,154
My kids and my mom cannot.
778
00:41:20,156 --> 00:41:24,358
It sucks, but on the other hand,
it's doable.
779
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:25,493
Yeah.
780
00:41:25,495 --> 00:41:29,497
We can do it as long
as we do it together.
781
00:41:29,499 --> 00:41:33,234
I wish I had better news
for Carissa and Terry,
782
00:41:33,236 --> 00:41:35,570
but moving
is their best option.
783
00:41:35,572 --> 00:41:37,171
Hopefully, they take my advice,
784
00:41:37,173 --> 00:41:40,441
leave this house behind and get
a fresh start somewhere new.
785
00:41:44,581 --> 00:41:46,580
When you guys left,
786
00:41:46,582 --> 00:41:50,652
things ramped to a whole
new level of dangerous.
787
00:41:50,654 --> 00:41:52,987
It was like everything was
stirred-up to the maximum.
788
00:41:52,989 --> 00:41:56,124
The shadow woman
had taken me over,
789
00:41:56,126 --> 00:42:00,461
and her intentions were to kill
my mom and have me do it.
790
00:42:00,463 --> 00:42:04,199
We had a group of guys
called Spirit Mechanics,
791
00:42:04,201 --> 00:42:08,469
came in and helped us out.
792
00:42:08,471 --> 00:42:12,140
I had to actually
have an exorcism.
793
00:42:12,142 --> 00:42:14,142
I feel completely different.
794
00:42:14,144 --> 00:42:17,211
The rages are gone.
The house is lighter.
795
00:42:17,213 --> 00:42:19,147
It's cleaner. It's brighter.
796
00:42:19,149 --> 00:42:21,749
Everybody is getting along,
797
00:42:21,751 --> 00:42:23,817
and we're finally
getting back to normal.
798
00:42:23,819 --> 00:42:25,486
So thank you, guys.
799
00:42:25,488 --> 00:42:28,089
Thank you for all your help.
Thank you for coming.
800
00:42:28,091 --> 00:42:29,157
Thank you for saving
my family.
801
00:42:29,207 --> 00:42:33,757
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