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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:11,211 --> 00:00:14,279 I think he might have been a stalker. 2 00:00:14,281 --> 00:00:15,880 I feel something worse is coming, 3 00:00:15,882 --> 00:00:19,150 and I'm doing everything I can to protect them. 4 00:00:19,152 --> 00:00:23,888 I think he abducted her. I think he killed her. 5 00:00:23,890 --> 00:00:27,559 He confesses to 44 murders. 6 00:00:27,561 --> 00:00:28,759 "You're not safe. 7 00:00:28,761 --> 00:00:32,296 A bad ghost will come and get you." 8 00:00:32,298 --> 00:00:37,034 I'm very worried about anyone being here at all. 9 00:00:37,036 --> 00:00:42,273 This monster could become abusive toward the living. 10 00:00:43,643 --> 00:00:46,377 And I just feel fear. 11 00:00:46,379 --> 00:00:48,113 My name is Amy Allan. 12 00:00:48,115 --> 00:00:51,249 This is like Grand Central Station for the dead. 13 00:00:51,251 --> 00:00:52,450 I see dead people. 14 00:00:52,452 --> 00:00:54,719 They have pain that they suffered. 15 00:00:54,721 --> 00:00:56,654 I speak to dead people. 16 00:00:56,656 --> 00:00:59,590 She hates them, hates them. 17 00:00:59,592 --> 00:01:01,993 And they speak to me. 18 00:01:01,995 --> 00:01:05,463 But there's only one way to know if my findings are real. 19 00:01:05,465 --> 00:01:08,933 It's a demon. It's Satan. 20 00:01:08,935 --> 00:01:10,534 I rely on my partner. 21 00:01:10,536 --> 00:01:11,936 I'm Steve Di Schiavi. 22 00:01:11,938 --> 00:01:14,271 I'm a retired New York City homicide detective. 23 00:01:14,273 --> 00:01:15,739 What was the body count, what happened? 24 00:01:15,741 --> 00:01:19,410 And I know every person, every house has secrets. 25 00:01:19,412 --> 00:01:20,812 I don't know if it's a demon or not, 26 00:01:20,814 --> 00:01:22,313 but it sure as hell looks like one. 27 00:01:22,315 --> 00:01:23,815 It's my job to reveal them. 28 00:01:23,817 --> 00:01:26,351 I feel like I'm crazy. 29 00:01:26,353 --> 00:01:28,286 But Steve and I never speak... 30 00:01:28,288 --> 00:01:30,355 We never communicate during an investigation. 31 00:01:30,357 --> 00:01:31,556 ...until the very end... 32 00:01:31,558 --> 00:01:33,625 I don't even want to show you this. 33 00:01:33,627 --> 00:01:35,827 ...when we uncover if it's safe for you to stay... 34 00:01:35,829 --> 00:01:38,296 I just don't want anything to happen to my mother. 35 00:01:38,298 --> 00:01:39,831 ...or time to get out. 36 00:01:39,833 --> 00:01:41,299 You have to get out. 37 00:01:53,179 --> 00:01:55,313 So I'm up here in Highland Park, Illinois. 38 00:01:55,315 --> 00:01:57,782 It's about a half hour north of Chicago. 39 00:01:57,784 --> 00:01:59,851 I got a call from a young mom named Michelle. 40 00:01:59,853 --> 00:02:02,319 Now, she and her family recently moved 41 00:02:02,321 --> 00:02:05,056 into what they thought would have been their dream home, 42 00:02:05,058 --> 00:02:08,259 but after months of relentless paranormal attacks, 43 00:02:08,261 --> 00:02:10,662 she says living there is hell on Earth. 44 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:15,266 Before Amy arrives, 45 00:02:15,268 --> 00:02:18,335 I clear the area of any leading information. 46 00:02:18,337 --> 00:02:22,273 Photographs, toys, and other personal items 47 00:02:22,275 --> 00:02:25,410 have to be covered or removed. 48 00:02:25,412 --> 00:02:27,478 When I'm finished, the location will be ready 49 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:29,080 for tonight's walk. 50 00:02:37,691 --> 00:02:39,891 There is a darkness here, 51 00:02:39,893 --> 00:02:43,027 like a complete layer of darkness 52 00:02:43,029 --> 00:02:46,097 that's trying to get through my protections, 53 00:02:46,099 --> 00:02:50,100 which is really concerning. 54 00:02:50,102 --> 00:02:53,571 This area -- it collects the bad from people. 55 00:02:53,573 --> 00:02:56,774 Then I just got people in misery and memories. 56 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:08,253 So, Michelle, I'm glad I'm here 57 00:03:08,255 --> 00:03:10,321 'cause when we spoke on the phone, 58 00:03:10,323 --> 00:03:13,124 I could hear the emotions in your voice. 59 00:03:13,126 --> 00:03:14,325 What the hell is going on? 60 00:03:14,327 --> 00:03:16,393 It's been living hell around here. 61 00:03:16,395 --> 00:03:18,930 I'm in fear for my children's safety. 62 00:03:18,932 --> 00:03:22,133 They're being attacked physically, emotionally. 63 00:03:22,135 --> 00:03:23,668 So am I. 64 00:03:23,670 --> 00:03:25,736 Who all lives here in the house? 65 00:03:25,738 --> 00:03:29,473 Well, here we have... 66 00:03:29,475 --> 00:03:32,076 This is my husband, Matthew. Okay. 67 00:03:32,078 --> 00:03:34,279 This is our 11-year-old son, Teddy, 68 00:03:34,281 --> 00:03:36,281 and our darling little daughter, Evie. 69 00:03:36,283 --> 00:03:37,748 She's 7. 70 00:03:37,750 --> 00:03:39,617 All right, Michelle, do me a favor and give me a rundown 71 00:03:39,619 --> 00:03:41,085 of what the hell's going on here. 72 00:03:41,087 --> 00:03:43,755 We've been hearing disembodied voices. 73 00:03:43,757 --> 00:03:46,758 We have objects that move on their own. 74 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:49,093 We've been having electrical issues. 75 00:03:49,095 --> 00:03:52,229 We've also been having shadow figures. 76 00:03:52,231 --> 00:03:55,032 Recently, there have been physical attacks, 77 00:03:55,034 --> 00:03:57,502 and my daughter's health is being affected. 78 00:03:57,504 --> 00:03:58,770 In what way? 79 00:03:58,772 --> 00:04:01,773 She keeps getting sick -- nausea, vomiting. 80 00:04:01,775 --> 00:04:03,307 And you believe it's the paranormal? 81 00:04:03,309 --> 00:04:04,441 I do. 82 00:04:04,443 --> 00:04:05,843 She didn't get sick like this before. 83 00:04:05,845 --> 00:04:08,579 Taken her to the doctors several times, 84 00:04:08,581 --> 00:04:11,849 and they say that there's nothing wrong with her. 85 00:04:11,851 --> 00:04:13,651 How you dealing with it on a day-to-day basis? 86 00:04:13,653 --> 00:04:17,321 When we're home, the feelings that you feel are intensified. 87 00:04:17,323 --> 00:04:20,992 Something that would normally, you know, might annoy you 88 00:04:20,994 --> 00:04:23,527 just piss you off to high hell. 89 00:04:23,529 --> 00:04:25,997 What do you think is here? 90 00:04:25,999 --> 00:04:29,467 Well, I think my ex-fiancé, Casey, is here. 91 00:04:29,469 --> 00:04:33,738 He died when he was 21, 92 00:04:33,740 --> 00:04:38,209 and it was very, very sudden. 93 00:04:38,211 --> 00:04:39,811 Sorry. No, it's okay. 94 00:04:39,813 --> 00:04:41,345 What were the circumstances? 95 00:04:41,347 --> 00:04:46,551 The doctor said that it felt like an asthma attack to him. 96 00:04:46,553 --> 00:04:48,019 This is him. 97 00:04:51,357 --> 00:04:53,758 He died in Chicago, 98 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:57,695 and he took a very large part of me with him, 99 00:04:57,697 --> 00:05:00,698 but he has found me wherever we've gone. 100 00:05:00,700 --> 00:05:04,102 I mean, you don't think Casey is causing any harm? 101 00:05:04,104 --> 00:05:05,236 No, no. 102 00:05:05,238 --> 00:05:08,640 I think if anything, he's trying to protect us. 103 00:05:08,642 --> 00:05:10,308 Okay. 104 00:05:10,310 --> 00:05:12,776 What do you think whatever's here wants? 105 00:05:12,778 --> 00:05:15,813 I think there's something here that wants to 106 00:05:15,815 --> 00:05:18,849 suck the life out of me and my children. 107 00:05:18,851 --> 00:05:21,052 It feels like it's slowly killing me. 108 00:05:27,527 --> 00:05:29,594 So, this is not good. 109 00:05:29,596 --> 00:05:31,995 I'm seeing a lot of dead people. 110 00:05:44,077 --> 00:05:47,411 There's a bunch of people. 111 00:05:47,413 --> 00:05:50,748 It's almost like they're putting... 112 00:05:50,750 --> 00:05:53,351 dead people on hold in there. 113 00:05:56,690 --> 00:05:58,823 I guess that's what they were talking about -- 114 00:05:58,825 --> 00:06:01,158 this layer of darkness. 115 00:06:03,897 --> 00:06:06,163 There's, like, one dead female who really wants 116 00:06:06,165 --> 00:06:07,365 the **** out of there. 117 00:06:14,374 --> 00:06:16,440 All right, Michelle, so obviously this is the kitchen. 118 00:06:16,442 --> 00:06:17,708 What's going on in here? 119 00:06:17,710 --> 00:06:19,710 We're having a lot of electrical issues. 120 00:06:19,712 --> 00:06:23,447 We have the TV turning on and off by itself, 121 00:06:23,449 --> 00:06:26,718 speakers connecting and disconnecting... Okay. 122 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:29,921 ...and all the lights in the house have been turned on 123 00:06:29,923 --> 00:06:32,055 when we were all asleep. 124 00:06:32,057 --> 00:06:33,858 So, now, do you have those motion detectors -- 125 00:06:33,860 --> 00:06:35,459 when you walk into the room, the lights go on? 126 00:06:35,461 --> 00:06:37,528 - We do not. - Okay, anything else? 127 00:06:37,530 --> 00:06:41,532 I was meditating one day, and as I'm looking up, 128 00:06:41,534 --> 00:06:46,871 I'm seeing all this black gunk come out of my mouth 129 00:06:46,873 --> 00:06:49,073 and raise up to the ceiling. 130 00:06:49,075 --> 00:06:53,077 And there's a woman, like, plastered against the ceiling, 131 00:06:53,079 --> 00:06:56,881 and the black gunk is encircling her 132 00:06:56,883 --> 00:06:59,483 and going in and out of her mouth. 133 00:06:59,485 --> 00:07:02,553 So, I know meditation can be very relaxing, right? 134 00:07:02,555 --> 00:07:04,021 So is it possible you fell asleep 135 00:07:04,023 --> 00:07:05,356 and this was just a nightmare? 136 00:07:05,358 --> 00:07:06,757 No chance. 137 00:07:06,759 --> 00:07:08,826 I've meditated plenty of times to know the difference. 138 00:07:08,828 --> 00:07:11,829 Okay. You got some crazy **** going on here. 139 00:07:11,831 --> 00:07:14,165 Yes. I'm terrified. 140 00:07:14,167 --> 00:07:15,766 I think it wants to kill me. 141 00:07:18,505 --> 00:07:21,839 I'm seeing an elderly woman. 142 00:07:21,841 --> 00:07:24,842 She causes a lot of **** ruckus, 143 00:07:24,844 --> 00:07:26,511 lots of noise at night. 144 00:07:26,513 --> 00:07:28,112 I do believe she lived here. 145 00:07:28,114 --> 00:07:29,980 You know, she hasn't moved on. 146 00:07:29,982 --> 00:07:33,117 So, I think the living are hearing, you know, 147 00:07:33,119 --> 00:07:36,988 basically an elderly woman up at night 148 00:07:36,990 --> 00:07:39,991 and just fussing around and making stuff and cleaning 149 00:07:39,993 --> 00:07:44,862 and talking to her animals and mumbling. 150 00:07:44,864 --> 00:07:47,265 I get, like, the fear factor here. 151 00:07:52,939 --> 00:07:55,139 Okay, so what's going on up here? 152 00:07:55,141 --> 00:07:58,476 Very often, it will feel as if someone or something 153 00:07:58,478 --> 00:08:01,412 is sitting on the bed with me 154 00:08:01,414 --> 00:08:05,816 or crawls onto the bed or even lays down next to me. 155 00:08:05,818 --> 00:08:07,084 I mean, is it possible 156 00:08:07,086 --> 00:08:08,219 that's your husband getting into the bed? 157 00:08:08,221 --> 00:08:10,621 It happens whether he's in the bed or not. 158 00:08:10,623 --> 00:08:12,023 Anything else going on in this room? 159 00:08:12,025 --> 00:08:15,760 I've been scratched and had bruises left on me. 160 00:08:15,762 --> 00:08:19,029 I have a couple pictures, 161 00:08:19,031 --> 00:08:25,102 and these are each when I have been fully awake. 162 00:08:25,104 --> 00:08:26,970 Anything else like this happen to you? 163 00:08:26,972 --> 00:08:27,905 Yes. 164 00:08:27,907 --> 00:08:32,776 I have been attacked sexually. 165 00:08:32,778 --> 00:08:35,446 And how often does this happen? 166 00:08:35,448 --> 00:08:37,848 It happens up to a few times a month. 167 00:08:37,850 --> 00:08:43,254 I'm able to feel the hand, like, moving down me. 168 00:08:43,256 --> 00:08:44,788 I'm afraid to even ask you if there's anything else. 169 00:08:44,790 --> 00:08:47,325 I mean, are you sleeping at all? 170 00:08:47,327 --> 00:08:48,525 Barely. 171 00:08:48,527 --> 00:08:50,728 I have nightmares all the time, 172 00:08:50,730 --> 00:08:51,996 every single night. 173 00:08:51,998 --> 00:08:56,000 By far the most jarring and horrible for me 174 00:08:56,002 --> 00:08:58,269 is the ones about my kids. 175 00:08:58,271 --> 00:09:00,271 I've seen them drown. I've seen them shot. 176 00:09:00,273 --> 00:09:03,074 I've seen them stabbed like they're being murdered. 177 00:09:03,076 --> 00:09:06,544 They're killing themselves. They... 178 00:09:06,546 --> 00:09:08,880 All right. 179 00:09:08,882 --> 00:09:10,547 I feel something worse is coming, 180 00:09:10,549 --> 00:09:12,950 and I'm doing everything I can to protect them, 181 00:09:12,952 --> 00:09:14,818 and I can't protect them. 182 00:09:14,820 --> 00:09:16,219 Yeah. Come here. Come here. 183 00:09:16,221 --> 00:09:17,488 I'm sorry. 184 00:09:26,365 --> 00:09:29,233 There's a strange-looking dead guy out here. 185 00:09:29,235 --> 00:09:32,503 You can see him, but always in a blur. 186 00:09:32,505 --> 00:09:35,906 I call him the blurry man 'cause he literally looks 187 00:09:35,908 --> 00:09:39,843 like a watercolored painting that was smudged. 188 00:09:44,249 --> 00:09:47,251 So, the blurry guy, when he's up here, 189 00:09:47,253 --> 00:09:49,186 likes this room. 190 00:09:51,391 --> 00:09:54,125 He likes to watch. 191 00:09:54,127 --> 00:09:55,859 If the lights are off, 192 00:09:55,861 --> 00:10:00,464 they might see him as a shadow person, 193 00:10:00,466 --> 00:10:02,599 and he can be physical. 194 00:10:02,601 --> 00:10:04,936 Nightmares, nightmares. 195 00:10:04,938 --> 00:10:07,338 I'm gonna say that he likes this person. 196 00:10:07,340 --> 00:10:10,875 This is an actual living person in the house. 197 00:10:15,882 --> 00:10:20,884 I think he thinks if he can completely manifest, like, 198 00:10:20,886 --> 00:10:24,155 he'd kind of be alive again or something, 199 00:10:24,157 --> 00:10:26,023 and I think that's not good. 200 00:10:52,828 --> 00:10:54,628 So, Teddy, how old are you? 201 00:10:54,630 --> 00:10:55,696 11. 202 00:10:55,698 --> 00:10:57,831 11. okay. 203 00:10:57,833 --> 00:10:59,099 So, I was talking to Mom, and she said 204 00:10:59,101 --> 00:11:01,168 there's some scary things going on in the house. 205 00:11:01,170 --> 00:11:02,369 - Yeah. - Okay. 206 00:11:02,371 --> 00:11:03,704 Can you tell me about some of the things 207 00:11:03,706 --> 00:11:05,239 that are bothering you here? 208 00:11:05,241 --> 00:11:09,976 I play with my toys on my desk, and I go to sleep. 209 00:11:09,978 --> 00:11:11,645 I wake up. They're on the ground. 210 00:11:11,647 --> 00:11:13,513 Okay, so when you go to sleep at night, 211 00:11:13,515 --> 00:11:14,714 you keep your toys up on top? 212 00:11:14,716 --> 00:11:15,915 Yeah, right there. 213 00:11:15,917 --> 00:11:17,116 And you wake up, they're on... 214 00:11:17,118 --> 00:11:18,518 - Yeah. - Okay. 215 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:20,253 You think your little sister is playing tricks on you? 216 00:11:20,255 --> 00:11:21,588 No. 217 00:11:21,590 --> 00:11:23,323 All right, buddy, anything else? 218 00:11:23,325 --> 00:11:25,992 Whenever I'm alone, I feel like I'm being watched. 219 00:11:25,994 --> 00:11:27,661 Do you have any idea what it might be 220 00:11:27,663 --> 00:11:30,730 that's actually watching you? 221 00:11:30,732 --> 00:11:33,666 Not really, but I know that it -- 222 00:11:33,668 --> 00:11:36,937 most of the time, it makes me feel nervous. 223 00:11:36,939 --> 00:11:39,740 You get a sense that whatever's here is trying to hurt you? 224 00:11:39,742 --> 00:11:41,274 Sometimes, yes. 225 00:11:44,279 --> 00:11:45,546 I don't like this. 226 00:11:48,817 --> 00:11:51,751 Blurry dude comes up in here. 227 00:11:55,024 --> 00:11:59,092 So he can open and close doors. 228 00:11:59,094 --> 00:12:00,961 He does that sometimes. 229 00:12:00,963 --> 00:12:05,765 If he wants to spy, or watch like he does, 230 00:12:05,767 --> 00:12:10,370 he has to open the door to see. 231 00:12:10,372 --> 00:12:13,773 I think he has a particular attachment to this room. 232 00:12:19,314 --> 00:12:20,847 He does kind of give this person 233 00:12:20,849 --> 00:12:23,182 the feeling that they shouldn't be in here, 234 00:12:23,184 --> 00:12:25,718 feeling like, "Got to go" -- 235 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:29,722 tension, anxiety, nervous. 236 00:12:34,863 --> 00:12:36,596 So, Matt, I was talking to your wife today, 237 00:12:36,598 --> 00:12:39,800 and she mentioned that she thinks 238 00:12:39,802 --> 00:12:41,134 whatever's in this house is dangerous, 239 00:12:41,136 --> 00:12:43,470 and especially dangerous for the kids. 240 00:12:43,472 --> 00:12:45,205 Do you have any opinions on that? 241 00:12:45,207 --> 00:12:46,473 I've always been a skeptic 242 00:12:46,475 --> 00:12:49,809 and not really believed in this sort of thing. 243 00:12:49,811 --> 00:12:50,877 So let me ask you a question. 244 00:12:50,879 --> 00:12:52,746 Have you had any experiences at all? 245 00:12:52,748 --> 00:12:54,347 Yeah. 246 00:12:54,349 --> 00:12:56,950 A lot of times, I will hear voices, 247 00:12:56,952 --> 00:12:59,686 sometimes footsteps. 248 00:12:59,688 --> 00:13:01,154 Okay, anything else? 249 00:13:01,156 --> 00:13:04,091 Sometimes when I'm going up the stairs in the basement, 250 00:13:04,093 --> 00:13:05,292 I get this feeling like something's 251 00:13:05,294 --> 00:13:06,493 pulling me back down, 252 00:13:06,495 --> 00:13:09,629 like a magnetic or, like, an emotional pull. 253 00:13:09,631 --> 00:13:11,031 So you've had a lot of experiences 254 00:13:11,033 --> 00:13:12,632 for somebody that's a skeptic so far. 255 00:13:12,634 --> 00:13:14,301 I'm just not 100%. 256 00:13:14,303 --> 00:13:16,636 I'm having a really hard time with it. 257 00:13:16,638 --> 00:13:17,971 Why do you think that is? 258 00:13:17,973 --> 00:13:20,173 Part of me kind of feels like 259 00:13:20,175 --> 00:13:23,844 I'm not providing and protecting, 260 00:13:23,846 --> 00:13:26,312 doing my job as a father. 261 00:13:26,314 --> 00:13:28,581 But what could I do, you know? 262 00:13:33,055 --> 00:13:34,454 This is weird. 263 00:13:37,258 --> 00:13:40,727 So, I don't know when, but at some point, 264 00:13:40,729 --> 00:13:42,996 somebody collected -- 265 00:13:42,998 --> 00:13:47,467 somehow collected or captured all these dead people. 266 00:13:47,469 --> 00:13:49,870 It's like a box, in a clear box, 267 00:13:49,872 --> 00:13:52,539 and I can see these dead people are wanting out. 268 00:13:57,079 --> 00:13:58,812 Really loud. It hurts. 269 00:13:58,814 --> 00:14:01,281 They're dark. They're really dark. 270 00:14:01,283 --> 00:14:03,083 Pain and misery. 271 00:14:07,823 --> 00:14:10,023 So, Evelyn, sweetie, how old are you? 272 00:14:10,025 --> 00:14:11,091 7. 273 00:14:11,093 --> 00:14:13,894 Okay. So I was talking to Mommy today. 274 00:14:13,896 --> 00:14:15,896 She was telling me about some of the scary things 275 00:14:15,898 --> 00:14:18,231 that are going on. 276 00:14:18,233 --> 00:14:20,900 Yeah, can you tell me about some of the stuff that's scaring you? 277 00:14:20,902 --> 00:14:24,771 When I go down in the basement, 278 00:14:24,773 --> 00:14:28,975 I feel like people are following me, chasing me. 279 00:14:28,977 --> 00:14:30,243 Like, kind of like ghosts? 280 00:14:30,245 --> 00:14:31,978 So, dead people. 281 00:14:33,048 --> 00:14:34,981 Okay, so anything else, sweetie? 282 00:14:34,983 --> 00:14:39,585 I kind of feel like there's people in my head, saying, 283 00:14:39,587 --> 00:14:40,921 "You're not safe. 284 00:14:40,923 --> 00:14:43,990 A bad ghost will come and get you." 285 00:14:43,992 --> 00:14:45,992 So, you have a voice that tells you 286 00:14:45,994 --> 00:14:47,661 that you may have a bad ghost in here? 287 00:14:47,663 --> 00:14:49,195 Okay. 288 00:14:49,197 --> 00:14:51,331 You feel like it wants to hurt you? 289 00:14:51,333 --> 00:14:52,799 Kay. 290 00:14:52,801 --> 00:14:54,935 Mommy was saying that you've been getting sick a lot lately. 291 00:14:54,937 --> 00:14:58,204 One minute of cold, I get sick. 292 00:14:58,206 --> 00:15:00,874 If we can fix this, you want to stay in this house? 293 00:15:06,015 --> 00:15:07,614 Don't like this room. 294 00:15:11,153 --> 00:15:13,352 Horrible, horrible. 295 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:21,294 So, I'm seeing this guy, and he's, like, 296 00:15:21,296 --> 00:15:24,230 dropped to his hands and knees, and he's, like, trying to pray. 297 00:15:24,232 --> 00:15:26,366 He's like, "Ahhhh." 298 00:15:26,368 --> 00:15:29,302 So I'm thinking maybe this person is sick. 299 00:15:29,304 --> 00:15:32,906 He's praying for somebody -- whoever's in this bed. 300 00:15:36,912 --> 00:15:39,912 And I see him falling to his knees 301 00:15:39,914 --> 00:15:42,049 and starting to pray, and then it's, "Whoomp," 302 00:15:42,051 --> 00:15:47,987 and then becomes visibly this thing, 303 00:15:47,989 --> 00:15:50,056 like a monster. 304 00:15:50,058 --> 00:15:54,661 It's, like, got red skin, like, a reddish-orange skin, 305 00:15:54,663 --> 00:16:01,934 stringy, dark, dirty hair, 306 00:16:01,936 --> 00:16:05,004 long twisted face. 307 00:16:05,006 --> 00:16:07,941 Do you have any idea what this thing is yet? 308 00:16:07,943 --> 00:16:09,342 I don't know. 309 00:16:09,344 --> 00:16:10,677 There's illness. 310 00:16:10,679 --> 00:16:13,746 Stomach is very, very, very bad. 311 00:16:13,748 --> 00:16:15,549 So is this thing dangerous? 312 00:16:15,551 --> 00:16:20,153 Yes. It can interact with the living, 313 00:16:20,155 --> 00:16:24,091 I think, being abusive, scaring them. 314 00:16:24,093 --> 00:16:26,560 It's **** insane in here. 315 00:16:44,545 --> 00:16:46,813 Michelle is convinced all the electrical stuff 316 00:16:46,815 --> 00:16:49,949 happening in her house is related to the activity there. 317 00:16:49,951 --> 00:16:52,552 I'm heading back there now to meet an electrical inspector 318 00:16:52,554 --> 00:16:54,953 to find out if there's a simpler explanation 319 00:16:54,955 --> 00:16:57,823 to the things Michelle and her family are going through. 320 00:17:03,631 --> 00:17:04,963 Will, thanks for coming out and meeting me. 321 00:17:04,965 --> 00:17:06,298 I appreciate it. No problem. No problem. 322 00:17:06,300 --> 00:17:08,700 So, my clients here are having all kinds 323 00:17:08,702 --> 00:17:10,369 of electrical problems in the house. 324 00:17:10,371 --> 00:17:12,505 Stuff's going on and off on its own. 325 00:17:12,507 --> 00:17:14,307 Can you think of anything that might cause that? 326 00:17:14,309 --> 00:17:16,909 Well, it could be some electrical issues. 327 00:17:16,911 --> 00:17:18,777 We're right near the high-tension lines. 328 00:17:18,779 --> 00:17:21,113 Sometimes you get interference from that. 329 00:17:21,115 --> 00:17:23,115 Okay, so do me a favor. Go in there, do your thing. 330 00:17:23,117 --> 00:17:24,383 Inspect this place for me, 331 00:17:24,385 --> 00:17:25,918 and let me know if there's any problems. 332 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:28,788 Beautiful. Okay. 333 00:17:28,790 --> 00:17:31,791 I have no idea what Amy's gonna find during her walk, 334 00:17:31,793 --> 00:17:33,859 but when you work a case, you have to rule out 335 00:17:33,861 --> 00:17:37,062 the obvious first, and that's what I'm doing here. 336 00:17:37,064 --> 00:17:39,365 If there are electrical issues in the house, 337 00:17:39,367 --> 00:17:40,999 it could explain some of what Michelle 338 00:17:41,001 --> 00:17:42,668 and her family are dealing with. 339 00:17:42,670 --> 00:17:45,304 We'd get that issue fixed, and they'd be good to go. 340 00:17:47,475 --> 00:17:48,740 All right. So, how'd it go? 341 00:17:48,742 --> 00:17:51,477 Pretty good, pretty good. Nothing really major. 342 00:17:51,479 --> 00:17:53,479 All right, so as far as devices 343 00:17:53,481 --> 00:17:55,081 turning on and off by themselves, 344 00:17:55,083 --> 00:17:56,815 nothing you've found would cause that? 345 00:17:56,817 --> 00:17:58,751 No, nothing electrical. 346 00:17:58,753 --> 00:18:00,052 Okay. 347 00:18:03,491 --> 00:18:06,092 I'm seeing the blurry man again. 348 00:18:06,094 --> 00:18:07,826 How would it interact with the living? 349 00:18:07,828 --> 00:18:09,228 He does move objects. 350 00:18:09,230 --> 00:18:11,831 He can open and close doors. 351 00:18:11,833 --> 00:18:13,899 He can affect electricity. 352 00:18:13,901 --> 00:18:17,903 Everything will go on and be crazy. 353 00:18:17,905 --> 00:18:22,108 Is that anything that the living are in danger from? 354 00:18:22,110 --> 00:18:24,243 It might be a slight possibility 355 00:18:24,245 --> 00:18:29,382 if he could become enraged or have a kind of mental break, 356 00:18:29,384 --> 00:18:31,317 and then I don't know what could happen. 357 00:18:33,587 --> 00:18:35,854 We've done cases in the Chicago area before, 358 00:18:35,856 --> 00:18:38,057 so I already have some connections here. 359 00:18:38,059 --> 00:18:39,658 I asked my old buddy John Schmidt, 360 00:18:39,660 --> 00:18:42,127 who's an historian, to do some digging for me. 361 00:18:42,129 --> 00:18:43,729 Now, he says when the original owner 362 00:18:43,731 --> 00:18:45,531 of Michelle's property died, 363 00:18:45,533 --> 00:18:48,267 his wife was so desperate to keep the property, 364 00:18:48,269 --> 00:18:51,003 she did something he's never seen before. 365 00:18:51,005 --> 00:18:53,239 It sounds like it's really gonna help my case. 366 00:19:00,281 --> 00:19:02,281 Well, John, thanks for meeting me and helping me out. 367 00:19:02,283 --> 00:19:04,549 So, the original owners of my clients' property -- 368 00:19:04,551 --> 00:19:06,285 let's start there with who they were 369 00:19:06,287 --> 00:19:07,553 and when did they get there? 370 00:19:07,555 --> 00:19:09,688 That was John and Elizabeth Corcoran, 371 00:19:09,690 --> 00:19:10,957 and they came from Ireland, 372 00:19:10,959 --> 00:19:13,225 bought your clients' property in 1846-- 373 00:19:13,227 --> 00:19:14,826 a newly married couple. 374 00:19:14,828 --> 00:19:16,828 They lived there. They had three children. 375 00:19:16,830 --> 00:19:18,764 So, now, I know the husband dies. 376 00:19:18,766 --> 00:19:20,032 When does that happen? 377 00:19:20,034 --> 00:19:22,768 He starts getting these pains in his mouth. 378 00:19:22,770 --> 00:19:24,236 It turns out he's got mouth cancer. 379 00:19:24,238 --> 00:19:25,971 Geez. And, yeah, he hangs on, 380 00:19:25,973 --> 00:19:30,710 and he dies in July of 1859, and he's only in his 40s. 381 00:19:30,712 --> 00:19:33,979 We got the death certificate right here. 382 00:19:33,981 --> 00:19:35,581 So he's, what, 44? 383 00:19:35,583 --> 00:19:37,183 Yeah, yeah, 44. 384 00:19:37,185 --> 00:19:38,583 John, you mentioned on the phone 385 00:19:38,585 --> 00:19:40,386 that the wife did something crazy after the husband died. 386 00:19:40,388 --> 00:19:41,854 What's the story with that? 387 00:19:41,856 --> 00:19:46,192 John Corcoran had left the house to his wife... Okay. 388 00:19:46,194 --> 00:19:49,328 ...but the property -- your clients' property -- 389 00:19:49,330 --> 00:19:50,596 he left to the three children, 390 00:19:50,598 --> 00:19:52,999 and they were under 12 years of age, 391 00:19:53,001 --> 00:19:55,601 and, plus, he left this whole big mountain of debt, 392 00:19:55,603 --> 00:19:58,871 and Elizabeth didn't have any way to pay this debt. 393 00:19:58,873 --> 00:20:02,141 She actually sues the kids in court 394 00:20:02,143 --> 00:20:05,477 to try to get control of your clients' property. 395 00:20:05,479 --> 00:20:06,812 What happens with the lawsuit? 396 00:20:06,814 --> 00:20:09,081 Well, she won the lawsuit, but it was only temporary 397 00:20:09,083 --> 00:20:12,418 because she still owed all of these debts, 398 00:20:12,420 --> 00:20:13,819 and she lost the property again anyway, 399 00:20:13,821 --> 00:20:15,554 and they had to sell it at auction. 400 00:20:15,556 --> 00:20:17,356 All right, so John, she loses the property, 401 00:20:17,358 --> 00:20:18,623 loses the house. 402 00:20:18,625 --> 00:20:20,025 What happens to her? 403 00:20:20,027 --> 00:20:22,227 Well, Elizabeth and kids -- they're left with nothing. 404 00:20:22,229 --> 00:20:23,896 They had to sell this house at auction, 405 00:20:23,898 --> 00:20:25,898 but then in the bizarre twist, 406 00:20:25,900 --> 00:20:30,703 she marries the man who bought the property at auction. 407 00:20:30,705 --> 00:20:32,438 He's several years older than her. Okay. 408 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:34,372 This is Frederick William Tillman. 409 00:20:34,374 --> 00:20:36,208 All right. So now she's back on my clients' property. 410 00:20:36,210 --> 00:20:37,176 How's it go for her? 411 00:20:37,178 --> 00:20:41,313 Unfortunately, a few years later, 412 00:20:41,315 --> 00:20:44,516 Frederick William Tillman died in 1874. 413 00:20:44,518 --> 00:20:48,253 He's 72 years old, and for some reason, 414 00:20:48,255 --> 00:20:51,256 he didn't leave a will with his wife in it, 415 00:20:51,258 --> 00:20:54,794 so once again, she loses your clients' land. 416 00:20:54,796 --> 00:20:55,794 Okay. 417 00:20:55,796 --> 00:20:56,996 Second time a widow, 418 00:20:56,998 --> 00:20:59,865 second time losing your clients' land. 419 00:20:59,867 --> 00:21:03,201 Lost it all. Sad situation. 420 00:21:06,207 --> 00:21:08,541 I'm seeing the elderly woman again. 421 00:21:08,543 --> 00:21:10,409 Can you tell anything about her in life? 422 00:21:10,411 --> 00:21:12,344 I do believe she lived here, 423 00:21:12,346 --> 00:21:17,016 but she's in denial about basically everything. 424 00:21:17,018 --> 00:21:19,885 She was little, maybe Italian descent. 425 00:21:19,887 --> 00:21:21,087 I'm not sure. 426 00:21:21,089 --> 00:21:23,289 I'm getting, like, late 70s with her. 427 00:21:23,291 --> 00:21:25,824 So I think that she died here, I do, 428 00:21:25,826 --> 00:21:27,626 or started her death process here -- 429 00:21:27,628 --> 00:21:29,962 probably heart, something with the heart. 430 00:21:34,701 --> 00:21:38,037 So it's really not good. 431 00:21:46,514 --> 00:21:48,514 For more information about the show 432 00:21:48,516 --> 00:21:49,982 and if you need us to investigate 433 00:21:49,984 --> 00:21:51,784 unexplained activity in your home... 434 00:21:51,786 --> 00:21:55,387 ...please visit travelchannel.com/thedeadfiles. 435 00:21:55,389 --> 00:21:57,389 Click on "Help me, Dead Files!" to submit your story, 436 00:21:57,391 --> 00:21:58,357 and we'll help if we can. 437 00:22:13,117 --> 00:22:15,050 So far, I've got a mother worried sick 438 00:22:15,052 --> 00:22:17,920 over the safety of her kids on a property 439 00:22:17,922 --> 00:22:21,123 where one of the original owners lost her land twice. 440 00:22:23,794 --> 00:22:27,528 But I want to see if there's anything else. 441 00:22:27,530 --> 00:22:30,165 Searching through old records, I find a murder that happened 442 00:22:30,167 --> 00:22:32,467 near Michelle's house back in the '40s. 443 00:22:34,872 --> 00:22:37,271 So I'm headed over to meet a true-crime author. 444 00:22:37,273 --> 00:22:40,141 He says the perp was one of the most prolific serial killers 445 00:22:40,143 --> 00:22:41,676 in U.S. history, 446 00:22:41,678 --> 00:22:43,211 and the guy claimed he put a curse 447 00:22:43,213 --> 00:22:45,680 on everyone involved in bringing him down. 448 00:22:53,090 --> 00:22:55,289 Well, Rich, I appreciate you looking into this case for me. 449 00:22:55,291 --> 00:22:56,825 Now, let's start with the woman 450 00:22:56,827 --> 00:22:58,293 who was murdered near my clients' property. 451 00:22:58,295 --> 00:22:59,695 What do we know about her? 452 00:22:59,697 --> 00:23:01,897 Alta Bernice Fulkerson. 453 00:23:01,899 --> 00:23:06,101 She was a 35-year-old spinster living with her parents 454 00:23:06,103 --> 00:23:08,236 not far from your clients' property. 455 00:23:08,238 --> 00:23:09,971 Let's talk about the murder. What happened? 456 00:23:09,973 --> 00:23:12,240 Her parents had gone away for the weekend. 457 00:23:12,242 --> 00:23:13,775 In the wee hours of the morning, 458 00:23:13,777 --> 00:23:16,044 a criminal thug entered the residence, 459 00:23:16,046 --> 00:23:17,512 dragged her from the house, 460 00:23:17,514 --> 00:23:19,982 assaulted her, and left her for dead. 461 00:23:23,686 --> 00:23:27,322 I see a dead male wearing, like, 462 00:23:27,324 --> 00:23:29,657 a trench coat and a hat. 463 00:23:29,659 --> 00:23:30,725 He's black. 464 00:23:30,727 --> 00:23:32,194 He's in his 40s or 50s, 465 00:23:32,196 --> 00:23:35,797 but always in the shadows. 466 00:23:35,799 --> 00:23:38,533 I think he might have been a stalker. 467 00:23:38,535 --> 00:23:42,604 He's about dominating and sexually motivated. 468 00:23:42,606 --> 00:23:45,474 Then I'm seeing this woman. 469 00:23:45,476 --> 00:23:48,276 She was 20 to 35. 470 00:23:48,278 --> 00:23:50,812 I think he abducted her. I think he killed her. 471 00:23:50,814 --> 00:23:51,880 And I think he buried her 472 00:23:51,882 --> 00:23:56,618 in possibly then what was a field. 473 00:23:56,620 --> 00:23:58,086 All right, so what's the official cause of death 474 00:23:58,088 --> 00:24:00,021 on this poor lady? 475 00:24:00,023 --> 00:24:03,491 The official cause was blunt-force trauma. 476 00:24:03,493 --> 00:24:08,563 It's probable that she was sexually assaulted. 477 00:24:08,565 --> 00:24:10,431 So, from our conversation on the phone, 478 00:24:10,433 --> 00:24:12,367 I know this guy was caught. How'd that happen? 479 00:24:12,369 --> 00:24:16,371 So, five years pass. The case goes cold. 480 00:24:16,373 --> 00:24:21,242 In 1947, a 46-year-old drifter named Jake Bird 481 00:24:21,244 --> 00:24:23,578 is apprehended in Tacoma, Washington, 482 00:24:23,580 --> 00:24:25,113 fleeing the scene of the crime 483 00:24:25,115 --> 00:24:28,449 where he had murdered a mother and a daughter. 484 00:24:28,451 --> 00:24:30,919 - This is him? - That's Jake Bird. 485 00:24:30,921 --> 00:24:34,055 There seems to be a pattern to his homicides. 486 00:24:34,057 --> 00:24:38,726 He bludgeoned and then sexually assaulted the victims. 487 00:24:42,866 --> 00:24:48,736 There are some random dead that come from over here... 488 00:24:53,544 --> 00:24:58,346 ...and they're naked, and it's mostly women. 489 00:24:58,348 --> 00:25:01,415 I see them coming out of the ground. 490 00:25:01,417 --> 00:25:02,750 They're relatively young, too. 491 00:25:02,752 --> 00:25:06,621 I'd say all of them -- like, 35 and under. 492 00:25:06,623 --> 00:25:12,760 I think that these women were killed over a 10-year time span. 493 00:25:12,762 --> 00:25:16,764 They were raped and murdered and dumped. 494 00:25:16,766 --> 00:25:18,099 By separate different people? 495 00:25:18,101 --> 00:25:20,568 No, same person. 496 00:25:20,570 --> 00:25:22,236 All right, so now he's pretty much 497 00:25:22,238 --> 00:25:23,972 caught red-handed in Tacoma. 498 00:25:23,974 --> 00:25:25,373 What happened with that case? 499 00:25:25,375 --> 00:25:29,511 He's convicted of the murder of the two Tacoma women, 500 00:25:29,513 --> 00:25:32,180 and he is sentenced to death on the gallows. 501 00:25:32,182 --> 00:25:33,648 Okay, so they're gonna hang him. 502 00:25:33,650 --> 00:25:37,585 As the execution date draws closer, Bird panics. 503 00:25:37,587 --> 00:25:40,855 He confesses to 44 murders in an effort 504 00:25:40,857 --> 00:25:42,991 to get his sentence commuted to life. 505 00:25:42,993 --> 00:25:44,326 How's that work out for him? 506 00:25:44,328 --> 00:25:46,795 Well, it doesn't work out according to his plan. 507 00:25:46,797 --> 00:25:48,196 He's executed. 508 00:25:48,198 --> 00:25:49,664 Now, Rich, you mentioned on the phone 509 00:25:49,666 --> 00:25:52,800 that this guy put a curse on the people that prosecuted him. 510 00:25:52,802 --> 00:25:54,269 What's the story with that? 511 00:25:54,271 --> 00:25:56,871 Jake Bird vowed that all the people 512 00:25:56,873 --> 00:26:01,475 involved with his prosecution were going to die before he did. 513 00:26:01,477 --> 00:26:04,746 Within less than a year's time, 514 00:26:04,748 --> 00:26:08,950 five individuals die of a heart attack, 515 00:26:08,952 --> 00:26:12,420 including the deputy sheriff who he confessed to 516 00:26:12,422 --> 00:26:15,023 and the presiding judge at the trial. 517 00:26:15,025 --> 00:26:16,024 You're kidding me. 518 00:26:16,026 --> 00:26:17,959 This is all documented. 519 00:26:17,961 --> 00:26:19,561 What are the chances of that? 520 00:26:22,432 --> 00:26:25,300 These women -- they do go into the house... 521 00:26:28,839 --> 00:26:31,239 ...but it's only when they're called. 522 00:26:31,241 --> 00:26:33,041 You don't know by whom or what? 523 00:26:33,043 --> 00:26:34,643 I'd say a living person. 524 00:26:38,515 --> 00:26:40,982 The only thing I could, like, maybe think of 525 00:26:40,984 --> 00:26:45,520 is that somebody's a sensitive, and they're dreaming this. 526 00:26:45,522 --> 00:26:48,322 Somebody's having dreams about women, 527 00:26:48,324 --> 00:26:50,792 I mean, who were murdered or something. 528 00:26:50,794 --> 00:26:52,927 They are seeking whoever's putting the call out, 529 00:26:52,929 --> 00:26:54,529 seeking that person. 530 00:27:02,939 --> 00:27:05,539 I saw several disturbing things on my walk, 531 00:27:05,541 --> 00:27:06,941 but two stood out -- 532 00:27:06,943 --> 00:27:10,212 first, the monster in the upstairs bedroom. 533 00:27:10,214 --> 00:27:13,814 There was a younger male 534 00:27:13,816 --> 00:27:19,421 who then transformed into a monster. 535 00:27:19,423 --> 00:27:24,125 The eyes were just kind of black, but also kind of twisted. 536 00:27:26,429 --> 00:27:29,163 The top of the eyes are off. 537 00:27:29,165 --> 00:27:32,367 Okay. 538 00:27:32,369 --> 00:27:36,371 Next, I described the trapped souls in the basement. 539 00:27:36,373 --> 00:27:39,240 I saw a naked woman 540 00:27:39,242 --> 00:27:43,978 who was trying to get out. 541 00:27:43,980 --> 00:27:46,514 I could actually see her palm being smushed 542 00:27:46,516 --> 00:27:50,318 against this... invisible door. 543 00:27:52,856 --> 00:27:55,523 Amy, is this what you saw? 544 00:27:55,525 --> 00:27:57,325 Yes, that's what I saw. 545 00:28:23,685 --> 00:28:26,619 Now that Amy and I have completed our investigations, 546 00:28:26,621 --> 00:28:28,822 we're ready to reveal our findings to each other 547 00:28:28,824 --> 00:28:32,025 and our clients for the first time. 548 00:28:32,027 --> 00:28:35,295 So, Amy, I'd like you to meet Michelle and her husband, Matt. 549 00:28:35,297 --> 00:28:38,031 Now, they moved into this house about eight months ago 550 00:28:38,033 --> 00:28:41,701 with their two sweet kids. 551 00:28:41,703 --> 00:28:43,437 This is Teddy, who's 11, 552 00:28:43,439 --> 00:28:45,905 and this is Evelyn, who is 7. 553 00:28:45,907 --> 00:28:47,307 Michelle says something in the house 554 00:28:47,309 --> 00:28:48,975 is attacking her and the kids, 555 00:28:48,977 --> 00:28:51,845 and if you can't find a way to stop it, 556 00:28:51,847 --> 00:28:53,313 someone's gonna die. 557 00:28:53,315 --> 00:28:55,715 So now that Amy knows who you guys are, 558 00:28:55,717 --> 00:28:57,784 I'll ask her to describe her walk for us. 559 00:29:00,856 --> 00:29:05,725 So, when I got here, I encountered a male, 560 00:29:05,727 --> 00:29:10,464 and he is really active here. 561 00:29:10,466 --> 00:29:12,732 He's rather thin and tall. 562 00:29:12,734 --> 00:29:15,268 I know he had light skin and darker hair. 563 00:29:15,270 --> 00:29:16,736 I called him the blurry man 564 00:29:16,738 --> 00:29:19,473 because he looks like blurred watercolor, 565 00:29:19,475 --> 00:29:21,942 you know, so there's no real definition. 566 00:29:21,944 --> 00:29:25,412 The major thing that he affects is electricity, 567 00:29:25,414 --> 00:29:27,948 so nothing here really, you know, 568 00:29:27,950 --> 00:29:30,217 works the way it should. 569 00:29:30,219 --> 00:29:35,155 I was woken up at 4:15 a.m. one night 570 00:29:35,157 --> 00:29:38,759 by a Bluetooth speaker blaring, 571 00:29:38,761 --> 00:29:41,962 and the TV channels will sometimes 572 00:29:41,964 --> 00:29:44,898 switch inputs all by itself. 573 00:29:44,900 --> 00:29:46,699 I brought in a certified master inspector -- 574 00:29:46,701 --> 00:29:48,568 basically an electrician. 575 00:29:49,972 --> 00:29:52,973 He couldn't find anything with the stuff going on and off. 576 00:29:52,975 --> 00:29:54,907 Interesting. 577 00:29:54,909 --> 00:29:58,311 The most concerning thing was that he can 578 00:29:58,313 --> 00:29:59,579 be physical with the living, 579 00:29:59,581 --> 00:30:02,381 so he may be able to touch you. 580 00:30:02,383 --> 00:30:04,650 I experience that all the time. 581 00:30:04,652 --> 00:30:06,652 It makes me feel like I'm going crazy. 582 00:30:06,654 --> 00:30:09,256 And, like, he specifically... 583 00:30:09,258 --> 00:30:10,924 Like, the master bedroom -- 584 00:30:10,926 --> 00:30:14,461 he does like one person in there in particular. 585 00:30:14,463 --> 00:30:19,265 The tall, thin guy, like, messing with you. 586 00:30:19,267 --> 00:30:23,203 I mean, it sounds just like Casey, right? 587 00:30:26,008 --> 00:30:27,941 Who's Casey? 588 00:30:27,943 --> 00:30:30,610 When I met Michelle, her fiancé had passed away 589 00:30:30,612 --> 00:30:35,415 of a freak-accident asthma attack. 590 00:30:35,417 --> 00:30:38,618 Casey was 21 when he died. 591 00:30:38,620 --> 00:30:44,290 I've always, you know, kind of felt him around. 592 00:30:44,292 --> 00:30:46,159 I got a photo of him right here. 593 00:30:51,033 --> 00:30:55,302 It seems to me that it could possibly be him. 594 00:30:55,304 --> 00:31:00,574 I feel, like, guilty that Casey's here. 595 00:31:00,576 --> 00:31:05,311 I feel like it must be, like, my fault somehow. 596 00:31:05,313 --> 00:31:10,517 The weight of it is almost like losing him over again. 597 00:31:10,519 --> 00:31:15,221 You've said this blurry guy can get physical. 598 00:31:15,223 --> 00:31:17,657 We need to talk about some of the issues you're having. 599 00:31:17,659 --> 00:31:22,862 So, I get touched, like, sexually. 600 00:31:22,864 --> 00:31:24,664 I can, like, feel the -- 601 00:31:24,666 --> 00:31:29,202 his fingers or hand, like, going down my stomach. 602 00:31:29,204 --> 00:31:30,469 Tell her about the other stuff -- 603 00:31:30,471 --> 00:31:31,871 the scratching, the bruising. 604 00:31:31,873 --> 00:31:34,340 Yeah. I can be sitting in my bed, 605 00:31:34,342 --> 00:31:36,142 feel, like, a burn, 606 00:31:36,144 --> 00:31:39,579 and I'd go to the mirror, and there'll be a scratch. 607 00:31:39,581 --> 00:31:43,617 I got a couple of pictures she gave me. 608 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:46,686 Is Casey doing this? 609 00:31:46,688 --> 00:31:49,756 No, it's somebody else. 610 00:31:53,094 --> 00:31:56,129 All right. So, what else did you see? 611 00:31:56,131 --> 00:31:59,766 So, when I was downstairs in the basement, 612 00:31:59,768 --> 00:32:05,304 I could see that there were a lot of dead people, 613 00:32:05,306 --> 00:32:08,041 and they were trapped. 614 00:32:08,043 --> 00:32:11,444 So, I don't know when, but at some point, 615 00:32:11,446 --> 00:32:13,713 somebody collected -- 616 00:32:13,715 --> 00:32:18,184 somehow collected or captured all these dead people. 617 00:32:18,186 --> 00:32:20,453 It's like a box, in a clear box, 618 00:32:20,455 --> 00:32:24,591 and I can see these dead people are wanting out. 619 00:32:24,593 --> 00:32:27,260 Now, Matt, you've had a weird thing going on in the basement. 620 00:32:27,262 --> 00:32:29,328 Yeah. When I'm going up the stairs, 621 00:32:29,330 --> 00:32:32,666 I feel like I'm, like, getting pulled back down the stairs. 622 00:32:32,668 --> 00:32:34,000 I don't know what it is. 623 00:32:34,002 --> 00:32:37,537 Now, is that caused by the dead people downstairs? 624 00:32:37,539 --> 00:32:39,606 Yeah. 625 00:32:39,608 --> 00:32:45,212 I had a sketch done of what I saw in the basement. 626 00:32:51,286 --> 00:32:52,919 It's pretty creepy. 627 00:32:54,623 --> 00:32:56,289 Holy crap. 628 00:32:56,291 --> 00:32:59,158 I hate that room. 629 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,895 I've always hated that room. 630 00:33:01,897 --> 00:33:04,631 It feels like it's a crowded room, 631 00:33:04,633 --> 00:33:06,699 and I thought I was nuts. 632 00:33:06,701 --> 00:33:10,704 I get that feeling, too -- kind of a creeped-out vibe. 633 00:33:10,706 --> 00:33:13,039 Honestly, I'm just kind of shook right now. 634 00:33:16,178 --> 00:33:20,713 When I went outside, 635 00:33:20,715 --> 00:33:24,584 I encountered four different women, 636 00:33:24,586 --> 00:33:27,520 and they had each been murdered. 637 00:33:27,522 --> 00:33:29,122 They were all white. 638 00:33:29,124 --> 00:33:35,661 They all seemed to be between the ages of 20 and 35. 639 00:33:35,663 --> 00:33:38,998 They were killed by a stalker 640 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:42,268 in a very similar manner. 641 00:33:42,270 --> 00:33:45,671 They were all raped and murdered and dumped, 642 00:33:45,673 --> 00:33:49,943 and all of this happened over a span 643 00:33:49,945 --> 00:33:53,212 of approximately 10 years. 644 00:33:53,214 --> 00:33:54,681 When I saw these women, 645 00:33:54,683 --> 00:33:56,683 they were coming out of the ground 646 00:33:56,685 --> 00:33:59,151 to come into the house. 647 00:33:59,153 --> 00:34:00,953 A lot of things she's talking about reminds me of a guy 648 00:34:00,955 --> 00:34:02,989 I came across in my research. 649 00:34:02,991 --> 00:34:04,757 His name was Jake Bird. 650 00:34:04,759 --> 00:34:07,827 I've got a photo of him right here. 651 00:34:07,829 --> 00:34:10,163 Now, if Jake did half of what he claimed, 652 00:34:10,165 --> 00:34:12,899 he was probably one of the most prolific serial killers 653 00:34:12,901 --> 00:34:14,501 in U.S. history. 654 00:34:14,503 --> 00:34:18,104 He was active in this neighborhood back in the 1940s. 655 00:34:18,106 --> 00:34:22,375 On June 24, 1942, he murdered a 35-year-old spinster 656 00:34:22,377 --> 00:34:25,779 named Alta Fulkerson right down the road from here. 657 00:34:25,781 --> 00:34:28,648 Holy ****. 658 00:34:28,650 --> 00:34:31,318 I got a picture of her here. 659 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,586 Now, Bird's M.O. was exactly what you described. 660 00:34:33,588 --> 00:34:37,123 He raped Fulkerson, dragged her out of the house, 661 00:34:37,125 --> 00:34:39,458 and bashed her head in with a rock. 662 00:34:39,460 --> 00:34:41,727 Now, to try to get out of the death penalty, 663 00:34:41,729 --> 00:34:44,130 Bird started confessing to all these other crimes. 664 00:34:44,132 --> 00:34:46,999 Now, he claimed to have killed 44 people. 665 00:34:47,001 --> 00:34:49,268 Cops were able to confirm 12 of them, 666 00:34:49,270 --> 00:34:52,138 including Alta's murder. 667 00:34:52,140 --> 00:34:54,340 Now, here's the crazy part about the story. 668 00:34:54,342 --> 00:34:58,211 Before Bird went to the gallows, he put a curse on the people 669 00:34:58,213 --> 00:35:00,613 that were involved in his conviction. 670 00:35:00,615 --> 00:35:02,749 He said all the people who were involved in it 671 00:35:02,751 --> 00:35:04,884 would die before he did. 672 00:35:04,886 --> 00:35:07,487 Now, believe it or not, within two months, 673 00:35:07,489 --> 00:35:11,691 four of the officials he put the hex on died, 674 00:35:11,693 --> 00:35:13,026 including the prosecutor, 675 00:35:13,028 --> 00:35:15,361 the lieutenant who got his confession, and the judge. 676 00:35:15,363 --> 00:35:16,963 Holy ****. 677 00:35:16,965 --> 00:35:19,432 All of these guys died of a heart attack. 678 00:35:19,434 --> 00:35:23,169 Now, is it possible the women you saw were Bird's victims? 679 00:35:23,171 --> 00:35:25,238 Well, yeah. 680 00:35:27,775 --> 00:35:30,777 Now, you said these women were trying to get into the house. 681 00:35:30,779 --> 00:35:33,079 Any reason why they would want to get in the house? 682 00:35:33,081 --> 00:35:36,982 Basically, there's a sensitive in the house. 683 00:35:36,984 --> 00:35:38,984 That's why they're coming 684 00:35:38,986 --> 00:35:43,122 and trying to communicate. 685 00:35:43,124 --> 00:35:45,424 It could come in dreams, 686 00:35:45,426 --> 00:35:47,994 making connections with these deceased people. 687 00:35:47,996 --> 00:35:52,398 Well, let's talk about your dreams. 688 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,201 I see a lot of horrible things. 689 00:35:55,203 --> 00:35:58,671 I've seen, like, murders. 690 00:35:58,673 --> 00:36:02,675 You had some really horrific dreams involving your kids. 691 00:36:02,677 --> 00:36:04,877 Yeah, I get really bad nightmares about them. 692 00:36:04,879 --> 00:36:07,747 I've seen them... 693 00:36:07,749 --> 00:36:10,350 I've seen them drowned. I've seen them stabbed. 694 00:36:10,352 --> 00:36:12,285 I've seen them kill themselves. 695 00:36:12,287 --> 00:36:15,821 And... 696 00:36:15,823 --> 00:36:17,424 they're the most important thing in my life, 697 00:36:17,426 --> 00:36:20,226 and it's just been torture. 698 00:36:20,228 --> 00:36:21,494 Well, it's a silly question, 699 00:36:21,496 --> 00:36:23,630 but is Michelle possibly the sensitive 700 00:36:23,632 --> 00:36:25,097 you're talking about? 701 00:36:25,099 --> 00:36:26,966 Yeah. 702 00:36:29,971 --> 00:36:32,171 Am I bringing people to me? 703 00:36:32,173 --> 00:36:36,175 Yeah, that's kind of how it goes, you know. 704 00:36:36,177 --> 00:36:37,177 So, like, you're like this thing 705 00:36:37,179 --> 00:36:39,712 that they can see and help them. 706 00:36:39,714 --> 00:36:42,315 Okay. Or that they can **** with, 707 00:36:42,317 --> 00:36:46,252 especially when you fit this type. 708 00:36:46,254 --> 00:36:48,921 So you're talking about you think Jake Bird might be here. 709 00:36:48,923 --> 00:36:50,890 Yes. 710 00:36:50,892 --> 00:36:57,530 I feel like he's the one who is tormenting you. 711 00:36:57,532 --> 00:36:59,399 The sexual attacks that she's having -- 712 00:36:59,401 --> 00:37:00,933 is that Bird? 713 00:37:00,935 --> 00:37:02,602 Yeah. 714 00:37:02,604 --> 00:37:08,408 So, I would think that he would torture you, 715 00:37:08,410 --> 00:37:11,211 molest you until he gets bored, 716 00:37:11,213 --> 00:37:16,082 and then would probably more than likely try to kill you. 717 00:37:16,084 --> 00:37:17,950 Scary, you know. 718 00:37:17,952 --> 00:37:21,221 Part of me just doesn't want to believe it. 719 00:37:21,223 --> 00:37:24,290 I'm also concerned about what I saw him doing 720 00:37:24,292 --> 00:37:26,959 in a child's bedroom upstairs. 721 00:37:26,961 --> 00:37:29,496 I believe it was the room to the left. 722 00:37:29,498 --> 00:37:31,030 Evelyn's room. 723 00:37:31,032 --> 00:37:34,500 I walked in there, and I just felt horrible, 724 00:37:34,502 --> 00:37:37,704 and I got that the living child was getting sick -- 725 00:37:37,706 --> 00:37:41,107 stomach issues as well as exhaustion. 726 00:37:41,109 --> 00:37:44,110 She gets hit with a draft and, you know, 727 00:37:44,112 --> 00:37:47,247 high fever or vomiting all the time. 728 00:37:47,249 --> 00:37:52,418 And her getting sick -- is that because of him? 729 00:37:52,420 --> 00:37:53,786 Yes. 730 00:37:56,724 --> 00:38:00,927 So, I'm watching all of this, and then I saw a male, 731 00:38:00,929 --> 00:38:03,796 and he was falling to his knees 732 00:38:03,798 --> 00:38:06,399 and praying at the side of the bed, 733 00:38:06,401 --> 00:38:10,737 and I see the male, like, transform into this, 734 00:38:10,739 --> 00:38:13,606 like, monster. 735 00:38:13,608 --> 00:38:19,612 This monster could become abusive toward the living. 736 00:38:20,881 --> 00:38:23,215 So what exactly does this monster look like? 737 00:38:23,217 --> 00:38:24,951 I had a sketch done. 738 00:38:39,234 --> 00:38:42,068 Holy ****. 739 00:38:43,638 --> 00:38:46,905 I'm, like, so angry. I'm, like, shaking. 740 00:38:46,907 --> 00:38:50,909 I'm very worried about anyone being here at all. 741 00:39:20,574 --> 00:39:23,108 So, Michelle, Matt, you guys got 742 00:39:23,110 --> 00:39:25,511 a hell of a lot of information tonight, 743 00:39:25,513 --> 00:39:27,446 and I know it wasn't easy to hear. 744 00:39:27,448 --> 00:39:30,716 The good news is, you're not crazy, 745 00:39:30,718 --> 00:39:33,251 and now we know what's been causing you 746 00:39:33,253 --> 00:39:35,654 and your kids to live in hell here. 747 00:39:35,656 --> 00:39:38,523 What we don't know yet is whether or not you can fix it 748 00:39:38,525 --> 00:39:40,592 so that you guys can get your life back together 749 00:39:40,594 --> 00:39:43,595 and raise your kids here in a normal manner. 750 00:39:43,597 --> 00:39:46,064 For that answer, I'm gonna turn it over to Amy. 751 00:39:48,802 --> 00:39:52,470 So, the first thing that I would like 752 00:39:52,472 --> 00:39:56,475 for you to deal with would be him. 753 00:39:56,477 --> 00:40:02,481 This needs to be done via a voodoo priest or priestess. 754 00:40:02,483 --> 00:40:05,751 What they're going to do is suck him up 755 00:40:05,753 --> 00:40:09,354 and take him with them. 756 00:40:09,356 --> 00:40:12,958 So, the second thing that needs to be done 757 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:17,429 is a male medium between the ages of 20 and 30 years old 758 00:40:17,431 --> 00:40:21,032 and specifically gentle in nature -- 759 00:40:21,034 --> 00:40:25,170 he needs to come here and talk to Casey. 760 00:40:25,172 --> 00:40:27,639 Now, what they're going to try to do 761 00:40:27,641 --> 00:40:34,380 is connect with other people that Casey has lost 762 00:40:34,382 --> 00:40:37,015 to come and retrieve him 763 00:40:37,017 --> 00:40:42,587 and then try to guide him over with them. 764 00:40:42,589 --> 00:40:44,923 The third thing that I would like you to do 765 00:40:44,925 --> 00:40:50,662 is to connect with a psychic who's a female 766 00:40:50,664 --> 00:40:53,398 and have her come in and move on the dead 767 00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:55,868 who are trapped in the basement. 768 00:40:55,870 --> 00:40:57,736 Now, what about the guy praying over the bed 769 00:40:57,738 --> 00:40:59,938 who turns into a monster? 770 00:40:59,940 --> 00:41:01,874 That's an aspect of the killer. 771 00:41:01,876 --> 00:41:03,509 It will go with him. 772 00:41:05,946 --> 00:41:10,482 I can't wait to destroy this dude. 773 00:41:12,820 --> 00:41:14,819 So, the ultimate question is, 774 00:41:14,821 --> 00:41:19,090 are you gonna listen to what Amy tells you you got to do? 775 00:41:19,092 --> 00:41:21,359 Hands down. 776 00:41:21,361 --> 00:41:22,761 What about you? 777 00:41:22,763 --> 00:41:26,098 Yeah, 100% down to do 778 00:41:26,100 --> 00:41:29,701 everything that she suggested. 779 00:41:29,703 --> 00:41:33,171 This is a pretty good scenario as far as a fix. 780 00:41:33,173 --> 00:41:34,973 It gives me so much hope, 781 00:41:34,975 --> 00:41:37,375 so much more confidence moving forward. 782 00:41:37,377 --> 00:41:41,713 So grateful for you guys, absolutely. 783 00:41:41,715 --> 00:41:43,448 So grateful. 784 00:41:47,988 --> 00:41:49,655 I really hope Michelle and Matt 785 00:41:49,657 --> 00:41:51,990 follow all of my advice. 786 00:41:51,992 --> 00:41:55,861 If they do, they'll be able to live peacefully in their house, 787 00:41:55,863 --> 00:41:58,797 and most importantly, so will their children. 788 00:42:02,936 --> 00:42:04,669 We just wanted to give you guys an update 789 00:42:04,671 --> 00:42:05,938 on all of our progress. 790 00:42:05,940 --> 00:42:07,739 We followed all of Amy's advice, 791 00:42:07,741 --> 00:42:10,141 and all of the negative activity in the house 792 00:42:10,143 --> 00:42:12,544 has come to a complete stop. 793 00:42:12,546 --> 00:42:14,813 We had a voodoo priest and his team come out. 794 00:42:14,815 --> 00:42:16,748 They performed a pretty amazing ceremony. 795 00:42:16,750 --> 00:42:19,217 Evelyn hasn't been sick once in the last two months. 796 00:42:19,219 --> 00:42:20,619 Before, it felt like we were walking into 797 00:42:20,621 --> 00:42:23,955 somebody else's house, and now it feels like our home. 798 00:42:23,957 --> 00:42:25,624 Thank you guys so much. 799 00:42:25,626 --> 00:42:27,793 We would not be where we are right now without you. 800 00:42:27,843 --> 00:42:32,393 Repair and Synchronization by Easy Subtitles Synchronizer 1.0.0.0 60895

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