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He was a good person,
and then he came here,
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and then he turned bad.
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It's been really affecting
my husband the most.
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He feels like his life
was taken as a sacrifice.
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It kind of creeps me out
to be here by myself.
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I'm hearing
"the Devil's Triangle."
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I just had no idea it was
this extreme and this bad.
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"Get out.
Get out of here.
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Get out now."
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And I just feel fear.
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My name is Amy Allan.
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This is like Grand Central
Station for the dead.
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I see dead people.
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They have pain
that they suffered.
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I speak to dead people.
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She hates them, hates them.
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And they speak to me.
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But there's only one way to
know if my findings are real.
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It's a demon.
It's Satan.
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I rely on my partner.
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I'm Steve Di Schiavi.
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I'm a retired New York City
homicide detective.
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What was the body count,
what happened?
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And I know every person,
every house has secrets.
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I don't know if
it's a demon or not,
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but it sure as hell
looks like one.
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It's my job to reveal them.
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I feel like I'm crazy.
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But Steve and I never speak...
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We never communicate
during an investigation.
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...until the very end...
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I don't even want
to show you this.
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...when we uncover if it's
safe for you to stay...
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I just don't want anything
to happen to my mother.
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...or time to get out.
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You have to get out.
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I'm back
in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania,
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because I got a call
from a woman named Diane.
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She went and opened up a tattoo
parlor in an old building.
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Now all hell has broken loose.
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Artists don't want
to be there alone,
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and customers
don't think it's safe.
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Look, I know the tattoo crowd,
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and they don't scare
that easily,
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so for them to call us in
for help, it's got to be bad.
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It's tough to hide the fact
that this is a tattoo parlor,
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but I still need to cover
leading information,
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like artwork, workstations,
and personal items
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that could influence
Amy's findings.
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When I'm done, the location will
be ready for tonight's walk.
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There's something bad here.
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There's this dead guy.
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He kind of felt like he was
a good person,
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and then he came here,
and then he turned bad.
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He's like, you know, the
devil-influence kind of thing.
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Yeah, this place,
it's hella confusing, man.
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Literally, I'm hearing
"the Devil's Triangle,"
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and he's just warning us.
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He's like, "Just go.
Just get out. Just run."
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So, Diane, when
we spoke on the phone,
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it sounded like things
were pretty bad.
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I mean,
what's going on here?
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The paranormal activity
in the place
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has gotten
really out of control.
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I think it's dangerous,
and it's scaring our clients.
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It's scaring our artists,
and it scares me.
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So, Diane, when did stuff
start happening?
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Two years after we opened,
we expanded.
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Okay.
When we expanded, things got worse.
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What's happening?
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We're hearing
disembodied voices.
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We're feeling watched
all the time.
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Objects are being thrown.
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We see shadow figures.
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People are being
physically touched,
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and everyone's been
having terrible mood swings.
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It's been really affecting
my husband the most.
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Any reason why?
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He's had struggles in the past
with mental illness.
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He was
just diagnosed bipolar.
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Okay.
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And I feel like
whatever's here
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amplified
all of his symptoms
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and made his anxiety and
depression way more intense.
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I'm very worried about him.
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Now, how does your husband
feel about
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this whole paranormal thing?
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He doesn't put much stock
into it.
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Alright.
You think he'd talk to me?
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I think you could try.
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What are you hoping
we can do for you?
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I'd really like to know
what's here,
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and I'd really like to know
how to get rid of it.
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It just is really depressing
to not feel welcome in something
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that you put
so much passion and love into.
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So, Diane, why do you think this
stuff is actually happening?
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I think it wants us
out of this space,
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and I think
that it's not afraid
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to hurt someone
to get us out.
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The dead dude, he's just, like,
crying and freaking out,
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and he's like, "Just go.
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Just get out
before it's too late."
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I think that people would hear
a man crying.
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He made himself real tiny,
like, into a ball,
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so I think they might see,
like, little black balls.
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I'm hearing something about
some kind of sacrifice ****
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going on.
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He feels like his life
was taken as a sacrifice.
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Is that something that might
happen to the living here?
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Yes.
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Okay, so, Diane,
why are we over here?
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What's going on?
I hear a lot of banging,
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a lot of knocking,
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strange noises that don't
really have any cause.
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Where are you hearing it
exactly?
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It seems like in the walls
and the ceiling.
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It's an old building,
though, right? Right.
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Could it be the plumbing?
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These walls
are really thick.
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They're concrete, and the
plumbing has a distinct sound.
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When we hear the noises,
it's different.
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Okay.
Anything else?
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Yeah.
In the last few months,
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we've had a lot of artists
with physical illnesses.
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People have to take weeks
off at a time to recover.
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We are definitely missing
business because of it.
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So, now, is any of this
sickness stuff affecting you?
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Physically,
I don't really get sick,
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but the anxiety is
really getting to me.
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So I usually leave
because I feel too anxious
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and just like
I'm being watched,
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like something's close to me,
and I don't like it.
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Alright.
So, anything else?
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I see,
and a couple other artists
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have seen, black figures
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out of the corner
of our eyes. Okay.
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I've also seen
black, like, blobs, kind of.
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It scares me.
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Progressively, it has gotten
more and more menacing-feeling,
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and the anxiety kicks in,
and it just...
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Off-the-charts scared.
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I'm seeing a couple dead guys
up there.
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And there's yelling.
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There's, like, screaming.
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I think that the living
would possibly see them.
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They would hear them yelling.
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I feel very sick and panic.
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Very panicky.
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I felt like somebody
was coming at me.
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Like, a male, I think,
was coming at me real fast.
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They're, like, throwing
people down the stairs.
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So, the living would feel panic,
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like, panic-stricken.
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When we expanded
into this space
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is when things got
a little crazy.
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So, what's going on?
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A dark shadow came out
from behind me,
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and when I started to walk
towards the staircase,
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it followed me.
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Did you feel like you were
about to get mugged?
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I mean, how'd it feel?
It felt menacing,
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and it was just
an instinctual "Get out."
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Alright.
So, what else?
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We've had clients complain
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while they're getting tattooed
that someone touched them
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or someone's standing
behind them,
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and there's no one there.
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You realize how lucky you are
no one's gotten hurt yet?
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Yeah.
Alright.
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Like, we took the time
to build this up,
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and it means the world to us,
and it's really upsetting.
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Alright. Okay.
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I'm seeing an older man --
50s, 60s.
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I think he's kind of crazy.
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He says he doesn't really
belong here,
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that he was brought here,
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but now since he's here,
he feels like he owns it.
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This is his.
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Does he have any interaction
with the living?
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Well, I think they hear
his fits, when he's, like,
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stomping around
and hitting things.
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He beats on the walls.
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He beats on the floors.
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He stomps around.
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He yells.
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I think the living would
experience all of these things,
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which also means that he could
potentially become physical
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with living people,
and he's like,
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"Get out of here. Get out.
Get out of here.
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Get out now."
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So, Shannon, I understand
that you and Diane
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are business partners.
Yeah.
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She described some of the stuff
that's going on here,
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and she thinks
it's pretty dangerous.
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I mean, you agree with her?
I agree.
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It's escalating,
and it concerns me.
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Can I assume
you've had experiences?
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Yeah. For sure.
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Okay, so let's talk
about some of them.
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One of the first things
that I clearly remember
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is seeing an apparition
upstairs on the second floor.
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What'd you see?
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I saw
a man walking into a room --
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black dress shoes
and gray dress pants.
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Are you sure it wasn't
one of the other artists that were here?
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Yeah. I'm sure.
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I checked.
There was nobody there.
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So, what else?
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Well, just last week,
I was tattooing someone,
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and my sweatshirt
got pulled from behind.
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That could be
really dangerous with you
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holding a needle
to someone's skin. Yeah.
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So, was there anybody else
in the shop
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that could have done it?
No, no.
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And nobody would ever
physically touch you.
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When I was talking to Diane,
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she was telling me
about personality changes
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with personnel,
and mostly with Josh.
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Have you noticed it?
Yes.
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When I agreed to be
business partners with him
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probably
about 5 years ago now,
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he was
not what he turned into.
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Okay, so what kind of changes
have you seen in Josh?
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It's a lot of stuff.
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More depression, but
he would have these episodes
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where he would be
irrational and angry.
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And you try talking to him
about them later,
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and he has no recollection
of these events.
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So, we've seen this
in other cases,
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where whatever's
in the home
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or the business is
influencing whoever's there.
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Do you think that's what's
going on with Josh,
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or you think he's
just being an ****
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I believe
it's influencing him.
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Okay. So, with all the stuff
that's going on here,
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did you ever think
about just calling it quits
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and packing up and leaving?
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There have
definitely been times
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when I've wanted
to leave here.
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Okay.
It's hard.
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It really is.
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This is
my home away from home.
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We worked really hard
to get here,
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and I'd be really devastated
to have to leave.
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Okay.
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Alright.
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There is evil here,
and it comes up from the ground.
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There's three evil entities.
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I think they're demons.
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And they call this place
the Devil's Triangle.
251
00:11:46,404 --> 00:11:48,338
Someone sold their soul,
252
00:11:48,340 --> 00:11:51,007
and now they are coming
to collect.
253
00:11:55,814 --> 00:11:57,748
I'm seeing a dead guy
in a coffin.
254
00:11:57,750 --> 00:12:00,149
He's the one
who sold his soul.
255
00:12:00,151 --> 00:12:02,185
He's the cause of all this.
256
00:12:02,187 --> 00:12:04,153
He, like, legit sold his soul.
257
00:12:04,155 --> 00:12:06,222
He summoned
those demon-devil things.
258
00:12:09,494 --> 00:12:11,628
So, after talking to Diane
and Shannon,
259
00:12:11,630 --> 00:12:13,630
I wanted to see what
their employees had to say.
260
00:12:13,632 --> 00:12:15,131
I was sitting downstairs,
261
00:12:15,133 --> 00:12:17,901
and two pictures
fell off the wall.
262
00:12:17,903 --> 00:12:20,904
I was the only one here.
Okay.
263
00:12:20,906 --> 00:12:23,173
All of them are having
bizarre experiences.
264
00:12:23,175 --> 00:12:25,108
I hear voices.
265
00:12:25,110 --> 00:12:28,778
It tends to be mostly
a male kind of shouting.
266
00:12:28,780 --> 00:12:30,981
I can never make out
specific words.
267
00:12:30,983 --> 00:12:35,519
It's an angry kind of
mocking or scolding.
268
00:12:35,521 --> 00:12:38,254
Like, it kind of creeps me out
to be here by myself.
269
00:12:38,256 --> 00:12:40,657
And if these guys
are freaked out to be here,
270
00:12:40,659 --> 00:12:42,192
you know things got to be bad.
271
00:12:42,194 --> 00:12:45,061
I saw a white mist
in my station.
272
00:12:45,063 --> 00:12:49,399
It was hovering towards
where that wall is.
273
00:12:49,401 --> 00:12:51,067
You ever see anything
like that again?
274
00:12:51,069 --> 00:12:54,270
Yes. I saw shadows kind of
out of the corner of the eye
275
00:12:54,272 --> 00:12:55,472
when I'm working.
276
00:12:55,474 --> 00:12:56,673
Somebody walks
into the room,
277
00:12:56,675 --> 00:12:58,408
and I look up,
and there's no one there.
278
00:12:58,410 --> 00:13:03,079
I feel like it's
a very hateful, angry energy
279
00:13:03,081 --> 00:13:05,682
that is coming
from this building.
280
00:13:10,355 --> 00:13:12,822
The demon thing.
I mean, they come and go.
281
00:13:12,824 --> 00:13:14,023
What do these things
look like?
282
00:13:14,025 --> 00:13:15,625
There's a little one.
283
00:13:15,627 --> 00:13:21,030
That one has white shiny eyes
and is, like, a little person.
284
00:13:21,032 --> 00:13:25,035
And then there's a big guy.
Really big guy.
285
00:13:25,037 --> 00:13:26,903
It seems like the devil.
286
00:13:26,905 --> 00:13:31,241
He had, like,
shiny soft skin,
287
00:13:31,243 --> 00:13:35,245
and it was black,
and he had horns.
288
00:13:35,247 --> 00:13:39,048
Living people might see, like,
evil-looking ****
289
00:13:47,191 --> 00:13:49,459
So, Josh, I understand
you're Diane's husband.
290
00:13:49,461 --> 00:13:50,727
Yes.
291
00:13:50,729 --> 00:13:52,462
She thinks that whatever's
going on in this building
292
00:13:52,464 --> 00:13:53,663
is pretty dangerous.
293
00:13:53,665 --> 00:13:54,965
I mean,
do you agree with that? No.
294
00:13:54,967 --> 00:13:57,334
I don't really believe
in that stuff.
295
00:13:57,336 --> 00:13:58,801
I mean, things used to
fall off the walls,
296
00:13:58,803 --> 00:14:01,204
and it's annoying,
but other than that,
297
00:14:01,206 --> 00:14:04,474
I don't see anything.
298
00:14:04,476 --> 00:14:06,943
Okay. Now, one of the main
reasons she called us in
299
00:14:06,945 --> 00:14:08,478
was because
she's worried about you.
300
00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:10,947
Are you aware of that?
Yeah.
301
00:14:10,949 --> 00:14:13,617
Thinks maybe you've been
having some mood changes.
302
00:14:13,619 --> 00:14:15,085
Anything like that
going on with you?
303
00:14:15,087 --> 00:14:19,422
I have bipolar, but I've
been crazy all my life.
304
00:14:19,424 --> 00:14:22,492
Every, like, 6 months,
you get manic,
305
00:14:22,494 --> 00:14:23,893
and you're depressed
for a while.
306
00:14:23,895 --> 00:14:26,629
Then medicine helps.
307
00:14:26,631 --> 00:14:29,099
But you don't see a change
in you since you've been here?
308
00:14:29,101 --> 00:14:30,967
Nope. I've been
the same **** a long time.
309
00:14:30,969 --> 00:14:32,235
Okay.
310
00:14:32,237 --> 00:14:34,103
I've always had
an aggressive personality.
311
00:14:34,105 --> 00:14:35,171
Things might be happening,
312
00:14:35,173 --> 00:14:36,906
and they're
not telling me nothing.
313
00:14:36,908 --> 00:14:38,307
Well,
why do you think that is?
314
00:14:38,309 --> 00:14:39,909
They're afraid
of the way I'm gonna act,
315
00:14:39,911 --> 00:14:42,445
and they think I'll get mad
or something.
316
00:14:42,447 --> 00:14:43,980
Well, that brings me
to another question --
317
00:14:43,982 --> 00:14:45,315
Are you annoyed
we're here?
318
00:14:45,317 --> 00:14:47,917
A little bit, but,
you know, whatever.
319
00:14:47,919 --> 00:14:49,386
Alright.
320
00:14:52,924 --> 00:14:57,593
These demon things
come up in here.
321
00:14:57,595 --> 00:15:00,997
I think
that they are dangerous.
322
00:15:00,999 --> 00:15:04,066
They can do attachments
if they feel like it.
323
00:15:04,068 --> 00:15:08,872
They look for people
who are prone to addictions
324
00:15:08,874 --> 00:15:13,343
or not living what they felt
325
00:15:13,345 --> 00:15:16,413
was a good life,
326
00:15:16,415 --> 00:15:21,550
and that's what these things
jump onto and take advantage of.
327
00:15:21,552 --> 00:15:24,687
They basically feel like
they own anyone
328
00:15:24,689 --> 00:15:28,358
and everything that comes
into that space.
329
00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:31,628
I mean, these things
take their souls.
330
00:15:51,248 --> 00:15:53,782
So, this isn't our first case
in Pittsburgh,
331
00:15:53,784 --> 00:15:56,385
so I already know a lot
of the local experts.
332
00:15:56,387 --> 00:15:58,987
One of them is a local
professor who just called me.
333
00:15:58,989 --> 00:16:02,324
Now, he says one of the guys
who used to own Diane's property
334
00:16:02,326 --> 00:16:04,326
made himself real wealthy,
335
00:16:04,328 --> 00:16:06,461
but it came with
a very high price.
336
00:16:12,035 --> 00:16:14,136
So, Professor, you mentioned
on the phone that the guy
337
00:16:14,138 --> 00:16:16,471
that owned my client's property
was crazy rich.
338
00:16:16,473 --> 00:16:19,008
Now, who was this guy,
and how did he make his money?
339
00:16:19,010 --> 00:16:21,009
His name
is George Bennett.
340
00:16:21,011 --> 00:16:22,144
Okay.
341
00:16:22,146 --> 00:16:24,312
He opens a bar in 1868
342
00:16:24,314 --> 00:16:26,615
about two blocks
from your client's business,
343
00:16:26,617 --> 00:16:28,884
and that's how his empire
got started.
344
00:16:28,886 --> 00:16:31,419
But it also brings a lot
of troubles to his family
345
00:16:31,421 --> 00:16:32,688
and his personal life.
346
00:16:32,690 --> 00:16:34,423
What kind of troubles
are we talking about?
347
00:16:34,425 --> 00:16:37,893
1876, he gets into a fight
with one of his patrons.
348
00:16:37,895 --> 00:16:39,628
Patron swings first.
349
00:16:39,630 --> 00:16:42,564
George finishes the fight
by knocking him down,
350
00:16:42,566 --> 00:16:45,767
and he hits his head,
dies of his injuries.
351
00:16:45,769 --> 00:16:47,836
Okay. So was he charged
with murder?
352
00:16:47,838 --> 00:16:49,237
He is charged with murder,
353
00:16:49,239 --> 00:16:51,840
pleads not guilty
by virtue of self-defense.
354
00:16:51,842 --> 00:16:53,575
He's acquitted.
355
00:16:53,577 --> 00:16:55,310
I mean, did it kill
his business?
356
00:16:55,312 --> 00:16:57,446
No.
His business grew after that.
357
00:16:57,448 --> 00:17:00,582
He went into partnership with
his father and brothers,
358
00:17:00,584 --> 00:17:03,118
and they merged as one of
the leading distributors
359
00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:05,721
and producers of alcohol.
360
00:17:05,723 --> 00:17:09,124
Here's an ad
for his product.
361
00:17:09,126 --> 00:17:11,126
Alright.
So business was obviously good.
362
00:17:11,128 --> 00:17:13,062
They were doing quite well.
363
00:17:13,064 --> 00:17:14,662
From their sale
and distribution
364
00:17:14,664 --> 00:17:15,864
and manufacture of alcohol --
365
00:17:15,866 --> 00:17:19,201
$83,000 in one year.
366
00:17:19,203 --> 00:17:22,070
Today's money --
$2.3 million.
367
00:17:22,072 --> 00:17:24,206
Okay, so, what happens
after that?
368
00:17:24,208 --> 00:17:28,143
In 1891, he bought
your client's property.
369
00:17:28,145 --> 00:17:29,411
What's he do with it?
370
00:17:29,413 --> 00:17:31,480
He puts
an eight-story building on it.
371
00:17:31,482 --> 00:17:34,283
He used it for his business,
for the distillery.
372
00:17:34,285 --> 00:17:35,684
So, on the phone,
you mentioned
373
00:17:35,686 --> 00:17:36,952
that all this wealth
came at a price.
374
00:17:36,954 --> 00:17:38,220
What did you mean?
375
00:17:38,222 --> 00:17:41,089
George tries to take over
the entire business.
376
00:17:41,091 --> 00:17:42,423
He takes his father
to court,
377
00:17:42,425 --> 00:17:44,559
forces his father
out of the business,
378
00:17:44,561 --> 00:17:47,696
and by 1907, he's managed
to push all his brothers
379
00:17:47,698 --> 00:17:49,098
out of the business, also.
380
00:17:49,100 --> 00:17:50,566
Okay,
so, when does he die?
381
00:17:50,568 --> 00:17:53,835
He dies in 1912
at the age of 63.
382
00:17:53,837 --> 00:17:56,171
I guess all that backstabbing
caught up to him in the end.
383
00:17:58,776 --> 00:18:01,042
I'm seeing the dead guy
in the coffin again.
384
00:18:03,714 --> 00:18:05,914
Can you tell anything
about him in life?
385
00:18:05,916 --> 00:18:09,918
Really a long time ago.
I would say 1850s, '60s.
386
00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:13,322
He imported things
or something,
387
00:18:13,324 --> 00:18:15,924
and then I guess
he just bought land.
388
00:18:15,926 --> 00:18:18,861
He owned a lot of this area.
389
00:18:18,863 --> 00:18:20,329
He wanted to be rich.
390
00:18:20,331 --> 00:18:21,863
He's the cause of all this,
though.
391
00:18:21,865 --> 00:18:25,400
He summoned
those demon things.
392
00:18:25,402 --> 00:18:30,072
This area that this triangle
encompasses is affected.
393
00:18:30,074 --> 00:18:33,075
This triangle or whatever
is a result of him
394
00:18:33,077 --> 00:18:35,243
selling his soul
to those demon things.
395
00:18:37,948 --> 00:18:40,148
Okay, so,
now George Bennett's dead.
396
00:18:40,150 --> 00:18:41,283
What happens to the money,
397
00:18:41,285 --> 00:18:43,418
the business
and my client's property?
398
00:18:43,420 --> 00:18:46,221
It all goes to the wife
and the surviving children.
399
00:18:46,223 --> 00:18:50,559
About $16.5 million
is the value of the business
400
00:18:50,561 --> 00:18:52,494
and the cash in the bank.
Alright.
401
00:18:52,496 --> 00:18:54,563
So, what happens to my client's
building at this point?
402
00:18:54,565 --> 00:18:56,331
The family
keeps the building,
403
00:18:56,333 --> 00:18:58,366
and then there's
another piece of bad luck.
404
00:18:58,368 --> 00:18:59,701
Alright.
So, what happened?
405
00:18:59,703 --> 00:19:02,237
It breaks out in a fire
that destroys the building.
406
00:19:02,239 --> 00:19:03,639
Anybody die?
407
00:19:03,641 --> 00:19:05,039
13 people were injured,
408
00:19:05,041 --> 00:19:06,708
but, thankfully,
no one died.
409
00:19:07,978 --> 00:19:09,844
They ever figure out
what caused the fire?
410
00:19:09,846 --> 00:19:12,314
Well, the fire inspector
thought it was arson,
411
00:19:12,316 --> 00:19:14,849
but they could not
find out who did it.
412
00:19:18,989 --> 00:19:21,256
These demon things
are just bad.
413
00:19:21,258 --> 00:19:23,525
I don't like this.
This is not good.
414
00:19:26,196 --> 00:19:28,529
I'm getting, like,
gas or smoke,
415
00:19:28,531 --> 00:19:32,267
like, all gray
and, like, thick.
416
00:19:36,539 --> 00:19:41,210
There's snow on the ground,
and the place is on fire.
417
00:19:41,212 --> 00:19:44,545
These evil things,
they did set the fire,
418
00:19:44,547 --> 00:19:46,281
because they were bored.
419
00:19:53,890 --> 00:19:56,024
So, I'm headed over
to meet a retired cop
420
00:19:56,026 --> 00:19:58,093
who's been digging through
old records for me.
421
00:19:58,095 --> 00:20:01,262
Now, he found out that
an officer was beaten to death
422
00:20:01,264 --> 00:20:04,499
150 yards
from Diane's building.
423
00:20:04,501 --> 00:20:06,635
He says this is
a really strange case
424
00:20:06,637 --> 00:20:08,370
and something that's
definitely gonna be important
425
00:20:08,372 --> 00:20:09,838
to my investigation.
426
00:20:15,846 --> 00:20:17,312
Well, Bob, thanks
for meeting with me
427
00:20:17,314 --> 00:20:18,713
and helping me out
with this case.
428
00:20:18,715 --> 00:20:20,248
So, now, you mentioned
on the phone,
429
00:20:20,250 --> 00:20:22,317
cop was murdered down the street
from my client's property.
430
00:20:22,319 --> 00:20:23,585
What the hell happened?
431
00:20:23,587 --> 00:20:27,655
On April 24, 1872,
patrolman John Stacks
432
00:20:27,657 --> 00:20:29,457
of the Pittsburgh
Police Department
433
00:20:29,459 --> 00:20:31,793
was patrolling
your client's neighborhood.
434
00:20:31,795 --> 00:20:35,864
He went in for lunch
to a local saloon,
435
00:20:35,866 --> 00:20:37,332
ordered some oysters,
436
00:20:37,334 --> 00:20:39,668
and at that time,
he walked out
437
00:20:39,670 --> 00:20:41,336
without paying
for the oysters.
438
00:20:41,338 --> 00:20:42,738
So, what happened
after that?
439
00:20:42,740 --> 00:20:44,139
He walks out without paying.
440
00:20:44,141 --> 00:20:47,475
Three men
followed him outside,
441
00:20:47,477 --> 00:20:50,011
and they beat him,
fracturing his skull
442
00:20:50,013 --> 00:20:52,147
and causing
a severe brain injury.
443
00:20:52,149 --> 00:20:54,349
He was beaten to death.
444
00:20:54,351 --> 00:20:56,751
Three people were eventually
arrested for the crime --
445
00:20:56,753 --> 00:20:59,420
the bar owner, the saloon
owner, Henry Bender;
446
00:20:59,422 --> 00:21:03,425
William Kocher;
and Samuel Golden.
447
00:21:03,427 --> 00:21:04,892
Did they go to trial?
448
00:21:04,894 --> 00:21:06,627
They went to trial,
449
00:21:06,629 --> 00:21:10,699
and Bender and Golden
were found not guilty.
450
00:21:13,103 --> 00:21:15,637
Explain that to me.
How did they get off on that?
451
00:21:15,639 --> 00:21:18,106
There were several witnesses
that were called
452
00:21:18,108 --> 00:21:20,242
by the prosecution
that didn't show.
453
00:21:20,244 --> 00:21:22,444
They
mysteriously disappeared.
454
00:21:22,446 --> 00:21:23,445
That's interesting.
455
00:21:23,447 --> 00:21:24,646
It's almost like Mob stuff.
456
00:21:24,648 --> 00:21:25,714
Yeah.
457
00:21:25,716 --> 00:21:27,715
So, help me wrap my head
around this.
458
00:21:27,717 --> 00:21:30,585
I find it hard to believe
that an on-duty cop is whacked
459
00:21:30,587 --> 00:21:31,920
because he didn't pay
for oysters.
460
00:21:31,922 --> 00:21:33,321
Any thoughts?
Any theories?
461
00:21:33,323 --> 00:21:35,857
Stacks may have been involved
in some illegal activities.
462
00:21:35,859 --> 00:21:37,125
Okay.
463
00:21:37,127 --> 00:21:39,728
And he was known to make
very physical arrests,
464
00:21:39,730 --> 00:21:42,797
so he may have injured
some people,
465
00:21:42,799 --> 00:21:45,000
and at one point,
he actually killed someone
466
00:21:45,002 --> 00:21:46,268
while making an arrest.
Alright.
467
00:21:46,270 --> 00:21:47,536
So it's either
criminal activity,
468
00:21:47,538 --> 00:21:49,671
or payback is a possibility.
Absolutely.
469
00:21:49,673 --> 00:21:52,273
Alright, so, what happened
to these three guys?
470
00:21:52,275 --> 00:21:55,076
Kocher and Golden,
no one knows what occurred --
471
00:21:55,078 --> 00:21:56,277
what happened to them.
472
00:21:56,279 --> 00:21:59,348
Now, Henry Bender
became a social pariah,
473
00:21:59,350 --> 00:22:03,217
and he became an alcoholic,
and he lost his bar,
474
00:22:03,219 --> 00:22:04,952
so he became destitute,
475
00:22:04,954 --> 00:22:10,425
and he eventually died
at age 43.
476
00:22:10,427 --> 00:22:12,294
Karma came back
to get him.
477
00:22:14,898 --> 00:22:17,499
I feel sick again.
478
00:22:17,501 --> 00:22:21,703
And I'm hearing,
"You lying bastard!
479
00:22:21,705 --> 00:22:23,838
You piece of ****
480
00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:26,775
I'm gonna **** kill you!"
481
00:22:29,913 --> 00:22:32,180
These voices are all yelling
at the crazy guy,
482
00:22:32,182 --> 00:22:34,182
who's always throwing fits.
483
00:22:36,653 --> 00:22:39,321
He's like, "**** damn it,
you have to believe me."
484
00:22:39,323 --> 00:22:41,256
Yeah,
he just remembers being outside.
485
00:22:43,794 --> 00:22:46,928
Some dude hurt his head,
something like that.
486
00:22:46,930 --> 00:22:50,532
I think he was murdered outside.
It was bad.
487
00:22:56,473 --> 00:22:59,073
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488
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489
00:23:00,677 --> 00:23:02,477
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491
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492
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493
00:23:24,633 --> 00:23:27,435
So far, I've got a bunch
of tough tattoo artists
494
00:23:27,437 --> 00:23:30,103
scared to be at work
by themselves in a building
495
00:23:30,105 --> 00:23:32,706
that burned to the ground
in the '30s,
496
00:23:32,708 --> 00:23:36,510
but I want to see
if there's anything else.
497
00:23:36,512 --> 00:23:38,979
Searching through old records,
I find a land developer
498
00:23:38,981 --> 00:23:41,214
who used to own
my client's property.
499
00:23:41,216 --> 00:23:44,185
Turns out he committed suicide.
500
00:23:44,187 --> 00:23:46,320
So what can make
a big-shot developer
501
00:23:46,322 --> 00:23:48,322
suddenly shoot himself
in the chest?
502
00:23:48,324 --> 00:23:51,592
I don't know, so I reached out
to a board-certified genealogist
503
00:23:51,594 --> 00:23:53,394
who knows all about this case.
504
00:23:53,396 --> 00:23:54,862
She says the answer could be
summed up
505
00:23:54,864 --> 00:23:57,398
in one powerful word -- money.
506
00:24:02,404 --> 00:24:04,138
Elissa, it's good
to see you again.
507
00:24:04,140 --> 00:24:06,607
So, I know the guy that bought
my client's property
508
00:24:06,609 --> 00:24:08,609
at some point
killed himself over money,
509
00:24:08,611 --> 00:24:10,344
but before we get to that,
who was this guy?
510
00:24:10,346 --> 00:24:11,945
His name was Hunt Miller.
511
00:24:11,947 --> 00:24:14,415
He bought the property
that your client
512
00:24:14,417 --> 00:24:17,484
has expanded into in 1920.
Alright.
513
00:24:17,486 --> 00:24:18,685
So, what can you tell me
about this guy?
514
00:24:18,687 --> 00:24:20,955
He made his money
in real estate,
515
00:24:20,957 --> 00:24:23,758
but he also was
into sports promotions
516
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,360
and moving-picture theaters,
517
00:24:26,362 --> 00:24:29,830
and in the 1910s, '20s,
that was cutting-edge stuff.
518
00:24:29,832 --> 00:24:31,499
Alright. So this guy
is involved in all kinds
519
00:24:31,501 --> 00:24:33,300
of flashy stuff
at the time.
520
00:24:33,302 --> 00:24:34,502
Anything
I would have heard of?
521
00:24:34,504 --> 00:24:37,037
He was the manager
and acting president
522
00:24:37,039 --> 00:24:40,241
of the Duquesne Ice Gardens,
523
00:24:40,243 --> 00:24:44,111
and he was also president
of the Amateur Hockey League,
524
00:24:44,113 --> 00:24:47,782
and that was the predecessor
of the National Hockey League.
525
00:24:47,784 --> 00:24:49,316
Alright, so this guy's
got his hands
526
00:24:49,318 --> 00:24:51,051
in real estate,
hockey teams.
527
00:24:51,053 --> 00:24:52,920
I mean,
was he making good money?
528
00:24:52,922 --> 00:24:54,388
For a while, he was.
529
00:24:54,390 --> 00:24:57,324
In the 1920s, when he bought
your client's property,
530
00:24:57,326 --> 00:24:59,794
he was flying high,
so to speak.
531
00:24:59,796 --> 00:25:02,063
He had a wife
and a teenage son.
532
00:25:02,065 --> 00:25:04,098
He had a very nice home,
533
00:25:04,100 --> 00:25:06,934
where he had
two live-in servants.
534
00:25:06,936 --> 00:25:08,201
Alright.
So he's doing well.
535
00:25:08,203 --> 00:25:09,470
He's got money.
He's got servants.
536
00:25:09,472 --> 00:25:10,737
What the hell happened?
537
00:25:10,739 --> 00:25:13,073
He was involved in
a sports-corruption scandal
538
00:25:13,075 --> 00:25:14,475
that got really ugly.
539
00:25:14,477 --> 00:25:17,211
The amateur hockey players
were actually being paid,
540
00:25:17,213 --> 00:25:19,079
which was
against the rules.
541
00:25:19,081 --> 00:25:20,213
What happens?
542
00:25:20,215 --> 00:25:23,751
He actually filed
for bankruptcy in 1923.
543
00:25:23,753 --> 00:25:27,154
He owed over $350,000,
544
00:25:27,156 --> 00:25:30,424
which in today's money,
would be almost $5 million.
545
00:25:31,794 --> 00:25:34,295
I know he kills himself.
What went down that day?
546
00:25:34,297 --> 00:25:37,898
So, he woke up one morning
on August 24, 1926,
547
00:25:37,900 --> 00:25:40,434
and shot himself
in the chest.
548
00:25:40,436 --> 00:25:42,503
He was 44 years old
when he died.
549
00:25:42,505 --> 00:25:44,972
This is
his death certificate.
550
00:25:44,974 --> 00:25:47,841
He left his wife
and 15-year-old son destitute.
551
00:25:47,843 --> 00:25:50,044
So, he was kind of doing
really well for himself,
552
00:25:50,046 --> 00:25:51,979
and then it all went
downhill for this guy.
553
00:25:56,251 --> 00:25:58,986
I'm seeing
the crying man again.
554
00:25:58,988 --> 00:26:00,554
Can you describe him?
555
00:26:00,556 --> 00:26:02,256
He's just kind of small --
556
00:26:02,258 --> 00:26:06,527
white shirt,
button-down collar.
557
00:26:06,529 --> 00:26:09,463
He has dark hair.
558
00:26:09,465 --> 00:26:11,599
He was a father.
559
00:26:11,601 --> 00:26:13,067
Do you know
what he did here?
560
00:26:13,069 --> 00:26:16,903
Something with money.
Doing bad things with money.
561
00:26:16,905 --> 00:26:19,406
And I'm kind of wondering
about gambling a little bit,
562
00:26:19,408 --> 00:26:23,010
'cause I feel like
he owed money, too.
563
00:26:23,012 --> 00:26:25,412
He's like, "Yeah,
I was bad and cheated."
564
00:26:25,414 --> 00:26:29,550
He said, "I was not
a good person."
565
00:26:29,552 --> 00:26:32,353
He did say, like,
he **** everybody over.
566
00:26:32,355 --> 00:26:34,287
Did he die here?
Yes.
567
00:26:34,289 --> 00:26:39,426
I want to say, like,
the 1940s,
568
00:26:39,428 --> 00:26:41,028
maybe the '50s.
569
00:26:41,030 --> 00:26:44,498
He feels like his life
was taken as a sacrifice
570
00:26:44,500 --> 00:26:47,167
to these demon things.
571
00:26:47,169 --> 00:26:50,104
He was just, like,
crying and freaking out.
572
00:26:56,712 --> 00:26:58,979
I saw several
disturbing things on my walk,
573
00:26:58,981 --> 00:27:00,714
but two stood out --
574
00:27:00,716 --> 00:27:03,984
first, the man in the coffin
who sold his soul.
575
00:27:03,986 --> 00:27:09,790
He had excessive bags
under his eyes,
576
00:27:09,792 --> 00:27:15,062
a lot of expression lines
up here from doing this.
577
00:27:19,135 --> 00:27:24,004
Eyes are a little bit softer,
and they were really deep.
578
00:27:24,006 --> 00:27:27,741
Next, I described the three
demons who collect souls.
579
00:27:27,743 --> 00:27:33,280
In the corner is this guy
who's in a tight ball, crying,
580
00:27:33,282 --> 00:27:37,817
and then, to the left,
are these three demon things.
581
00:27:37,819 --> 00:27:40,354
No eyeballs.
Just the sockets.
582
00:27:40,356 --> 00:27:42,923
No nose.
Just the openings.
583
00:27:42,925 --> 00:27:45,159
They do have
really sharp teeth.
584
00:27:49,632 --> 00:27:53,167
Amy, is this what you saw?
585
00:27:53,169 --> 00:27:55,235
Yes.
That's what I saw.
586
00:28:20,196 --> 00:28:23,196
Now that Amy and I have
completed our investigations,
587
00:28:23,198 --> 00:28:25,465
we're ready to reveal
our findings to each other
588
00:28:25,467 --> 00:28:29,403
and our clients
for the first time.
589
00:28:29,405 --> 00:28:31,004
So, Amy, I'd like you
to meet Diane
590
00:28:31,006 --> 00:28:33,407
and her business partner,
Shannon.
591
00:28:33,409 --> 00:28:35,943
Now, when they opened up
this tattoo parlor
592
00:28:35,945 --> 00:28:38,012
a few years back
with Diane's husband, Josh,
593
00:28:38,014 --> 00:28:41,081
it was basically a dream
come true for you guys.
594
00:28:41,083 --> 00:28:42,816
Now, these two ladies
are tough, right?
595
00:28:42,818 --> 00:28:45,886
And so is their clientele,
but everyone's scared,
596
00:28:45,888 --> 00:28:47,354
so you know
it's got to be bad.
597
00:28:47,356 --> 00:28:50,023
In fact, the activity here
is getting so physical,
598
00:28:50,025 --> 00:28:53,027
these two ladies don't think
it's safe to be here.
599
00:28:53,029 --> 00:28:56,096
So, now that Amy knows a little
bit about your situation,
600
00:28:56,098 --> 00:28:57,965
I'll ask her to describe
her walk for us.
601
00:29:02,170 --> 00:29:05,170
So, upstairs
in the middle room,
602
00:29:05,172 --> 00:29:09,308
there's an older, very
conscious dead male there.
603
00:29:09,310 --> 00:29:11,376
I would have put him
in his 60s.
604
00:29:11,378 --> 00:29:14,046
He was very upset
that I was here,
605
00:29:14,048 --> 00:29:15,714
did not want
to talk to me,
606
00:29:15,716 --> 00:29:19,919
and one of the things he kept
saying to me was, "Get out."
607
00:29:19,921 --> 00:29:22,921
This guy is just
completely insane.
608
00:29:22,923 --> 00:29:26,792
He does flare up
into fits of anger.
609
00:29:26,794 --> 00:29:30,529
He's, like, stomping around
and hitting things.
610
00:29:30,531 --> 00:29:33,131
He beats on the walls.
611
00:29:33,133 --> 00:29:35,334
He beats on the floors.
612
00:29:35,336 --> 00:29:37,269
He stomps around.
613
00:29:37,271 --> 00:29:38,738
He yells.
614
00:29:38,740 --> 00:29:40,940
I hear, like, a bang.
615
00:29:40,942 --> 00:29:42,274
Like, it's so loud
that you think
616
00:29:42,276 --> 00:29:44,743
it's a customer
or a client coming in.
617
00:29:44,745 --> 00:29:46,145
And you guys
also have problems
618
00:29:46,147 --> 00:29:47,947
with stuff
flying off the wall. Yes.
619
00:29:47,949 --> 00:29:50,382
We had a terrible time
with our paintings.
620
00:29:50,384 --> 00:29:53,485
We had to screw them onto
the wall to get them to stay.
621
00:29:53,487 --> 00:29:57,289
Wow. I think
this guy could pose
622
00:29:57,291 --> 00:30:00,625
a potential threat
physically to people,
623
00:30:00,627 --> 00:30:02,428
which makes me nervous.
624
00:30:02,430 --> 00:30:04,430
You had your shirt tugged,
right?
625
00:30:04,432 --> 00:30:05,765
Tell Amy what happened.
626
00:30:05,767 --> 00:30:07,966
I was sitting there,
working on this guy's arm,
627
00:30:07,968 --> 00:30:11,637
and I just felt the back of
my sweatshirt get pulled down.
628
00:30:11,639 --> 00:30:13,438
Now, all the stuff
that's happening to them,
629
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,074
is that all this crazy guy,
or is this...
630
00:30:15,076 --> 00:30:17,310
Well, that does sound
like him.
631
00:30:17,312 --> 00:30:20,513
Yeah.
632
00:30:20,515 --> 00:30:23,515
Okay, so, what else?
633
00:30:23,517 --> 00:30:27,520
Next person I encountered
was a dead male.
634
00:30:27,522 --> 00:30:30,255
He's really upset
about being here.
635
00:30:30,257 --> 00:30:35,461
He cries and freaks out
all the time.
636
00:30:35,463 --> 00:30:39,131
He had dark hair.
It was neatly cut and gelled.
637
00:30:39,133 --> 00:30:40,266
White button-down shirt,
638
00:30:40,268 --> 00:30:43,268
starched dress pants,
nice shoes.
639
00:30:43,270 --> 00:30:45,338
I actually saw
an apparition of a man,
640
00:30:45,340 --> 00:30:48,874
but all I saw was the back
of his heels and his legs.
641
00:30:48,876 --> 00:30:51,143
But he had on dress shoes --
642
00:30:51,145 --> 00:30:54,747
they were black --
and pressed gray pants.
643
00:30:54,749 --> 00:30:56,615
Okay.
644
00:30:56,617 --> 00:30:59,018
Any idea who this guy might
have been when he was alive?
645
00:30:59,020 --> 00:31:01,486
I am putting him
in the 1940s.
646
00:31:01,488 --> 00:31:03,756
He was married,
a father.
647
00:31:03,758 --> 00:31:09,628
I don't know what his job was,
but it had to do with money.
648
00:31:09,630 --> 00:31:13,565
But I got that he did
owe somebody money.
649
00:31:13,567 --> 00:31:16,569
So, I couldn't tell if this
was related to gambling
650
00:31:16,571 --> 00:31:19,171
or something else.
651
00:31:19,173 --> 00:31:22,041
He admitted to screwing over
his family, his co-workers,
652
00:31:22,043 --> 00:31:25,510
his friends,
really everybody in his life.
653
00:31:25,512 --> 00:31:28,380
He said that he was
a good person,
654
00:31:28,382 --> 00:31:30,382
and then he came here,
655
00:31:30,384 --> 00:31:34,586
and that
he kind of turned bad.
656
00:31:34,588 --> 00:31:37,523
So, I got an idea
of who Amy might have seen.
657
00:31:37,525 --> 00:31:39,124
Now, this guy's name
was Hunt Miller,
658
00:31:39,126 --> 00:31:41,793
and he bought
the property in 1920,
659
00:31:41,795 --> 00:31:45,297
specifically the building
you guys expanded into.
660
00:31:45,299 --> 00:31:47,800
This guy was the president
of the Duquesne Gardens,
661
00:31:47,802 --> 00:31:50,536
and at the time, it was one
of the largest ice hockey rinks
662
00:31:50,538 --> 00:31:52,471
in the entire country.
663
00:31:52,473 --> 00:31:55,006
He was also involved
in theater promotion.
664
00:31:55,008 --> 00:31:56,809
Now, the expert I spoke to
told me that Miller was
665
00:31:56,811 --> 00:32:00,346
a gambler, a real risk-taker
in his investments.
666
00:32:00,348 --> 00:32:02,147
But right after
he bought the property,
667
00:32:02,149 --> 00:32:04,884
everything went to hell
for him.
668
00:32:04,886 --> 00:32:08,353
First, he got caught up
in a sports-corruption scandal.
669
00:32:08,355 --> 00:32:10,823
So, after the scandal broke,
the place went bankrupt
670
00:32:10,825 --> 00:32:13,025
because of his mismanagement.
671
00:32:13,027 --> 00:32:14,760
Now, you said the guy
you saw owed money.
672
00:32:14,762 --> 00:32:19,031
At the end of all this,
Hunt owed $350,000--
673
00:32:19,033 --> 00:32:22,234
the equivalent
of nearly 5 million bucks today.
674
00:32:22,236 --> 00:32:23,702
****
675
00:32:26,307 --> 00:32:28,841
Now, this guy was so broken up
about what was going on
676
00:32:28,843 --> 00:32:32,978
in his life that he shot himself
in the chest in 1926.
677
00:32:32,980 --> 00:32:34,713
Whoops.
678
00:32:34,715 --> 00:32:37,917
He was 44 years old.
679
00:32:37,919 --> 00:32:41,186
I actually got ahold
of his death certificate here.
680
00:32:41,188 --> 00:32:42,855
He left his wife
and 15-year-old son
681
00:32:42,857 --> 00:32:45,323
basically destitute.
682
00:32:45,325 --> 00:32:46,525
I'm curious
if maybe you think
683
00:32:46,527 --> 00:32:49,594
Miller might be the guy
you ran into.
684
00:32:49,596 --> 00:32:52,664
Yeah.
I mean, it sounds like the guy.
685
00:32:54,869 --> 00:32:57,536
Okay, so,
what else is going on?
686
00:32:57,538 --> 00:33:00,672
The next thing I ran into
was very odd.
687
00:33:00,674 --> 00:33:03,542
I saw a man in a coffin.
688
00:33:03,544 --> 00:33:06,411
I put him in his late 60s,
early 70s.
689
00:33:06,413 --> 00:33:09,948
He was active
in 1860s or 1870s.
690
00:33:09,950 --> 00:33:16,221
He was buried in a very nice
black-and-gray suit,
691
00:33:16,223 --> 00:33:19,492
definitely had
a lot of money.
692
00:33:19,494 --> 00:33:21,426
He was in business,
and they kept repeating
693
00:33:21,428 --> 00:33:23,162
"importing and shipping."
694
00:33:23,164 --> 00:33:24,830
I got that he owned
this property
695
00:33:24,832 --> 00:33:29,367
and a bunch of other pieces
of property in the area.
696
00:33:29,369 --> 00:33:34,172
His sole desire was that
he wanted to be rich,
697
00:33:34,174 --> 00:33:39,378
and he got rich by doing
some very, very bad things.
698
00:33:39,380 --> 00:33:42,847
It's not a whole lot to go on,
but it does remind me
699
00:33:42,849 --> 00:33:45,518
of one of the early owners
of this property.
700
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:49,321
His name was George Bennett, and
he was a ruthless businessman.
701
00:33:49,323 --> 00:33:50,856
Before he bought
this property,
702
00:33:50,858 --> 00:33:53,992
Bennett opened up a bar
a couple blocks from here.
703
00:33:53,994 --> 00:33:57,196
You got that he was alive
in the 1860s and '70s.
704
00:33:57,198 --> 00:34:00,399
Now, in 1876, Bennett wound up
getting into a fight
705
00:34:00,401 --> 00:34:02,134
with one of his patrons.
706
00:34:02,136 --> 00:34:05,137
Bennett hit him so hard,
his head hit the pavement,
707
00:34:05,139 --> 00:34:06,672
cracked his skull
and killed him.
708
00:34:06,674 --> 00:34:08,140
Damn.
709
00:34:08,142 --> 00:34:10,476
George claimed self-defense,
and the jury bought it,
710
00:34:10,478 --> 00:34:11,877
so he gets acquitted.
711
00:34:11,879 --> 00:34:13,879
After that, George went
into business with his father
712
00:34:13,881 --> 00:34:16,548
and his brothers
and started selling liquor.
713
00:34:16,550 --> 00:34:21,753
In 1889, they made 83,000 grand
in one year, cash.
714
00:34:21,755 --> 00:34:23,756
Today, it would have
been $2.3 million.
715
00:34:23,758 --> 00:34:25,090
Man.
716
00:34:25,092 --> 00:34:29,094
So they used that money
to buy this property in 1891.
717
00:34:29,096 --> 00:34:31,830
George built a huge
8- story building
718
00:34:31,832 --> 00:34:35,433
and operated
his liquor distillery here.
719
00:34:35,435 --> 00:34:37,502
This is the building
that was here.
720
00:34:37,504 --> 00:34:40,239
That makes sense.
721
00:34:40,241 --> 00:34:42,708
Despite the success,
George wasn't satisfied
722
00:34:42,710 --> 00:34:45,110
splitting the profits
with his family,
723
00:34:45,112 --> 00:34:47,379
so he pushed them
all out one by one.
724
00:34:47,381 --> 00:34:48,447
Wow.
725
00:34:48,449 --> 00:34:50,449
First his father,
then his brothers.
726
00:34:50,451 --> 00:34:54,252
He died in 1912
at the age of 63.
727
00:34:54,254 --> 00:34:57,990
I was able to track down
a photo of this guy.
728
00:34:57,992 --> 00:35:01,260
You think this is the guy
you saw in the coffin?
729
00:35:01,262 --> 00:35:05,797
I had a sketch done
of the person I saw.
730
00:35:12,139 --> 00:35:14,206
Yeah.
731
00:35:14,208 --> 00:35:17,075
You ladies tell me.
732
00:35:17,077 --> 00:35:19,411
My God.
Looks pretty close to me.
733
00:35:19,413 --> 00:35:22,681
Yeah.
I'd say so.
734
00:35:22,683 --> 00:35:24,483
They look similar,
for sure.
735
00:35:24,485 --> 00:35:27,953
But do you think it's this guy,
George Bennett?
736
00:35:27,955 --> 00:35:29,421
**** yeah.
737
00:35:29,423 --> 00:35:33,292
That matches,
which is not good...
738
00:35:33,294 --> 00:35:35,027
'cause he ****
everybody.
739
00:35:35,029 --> 00:35:36,361
No.
I'll just tell you that.
740
00:35:36,363 --> 00:35:38,430
This man in this coffin,
741
00:35:38,432 --> 00:35:41,767
he's responsible for, like,
the bad things here
742
00:35:41,769 --> 00:35:47,305
because he brought three,
like, evil entities here.
743
00:35:47,307 --> 00:35:49,441
He summoned them.
744
00:35:49,443 --> 00:35:52,845
They have been around causing
chaos for a very long time.
745
00:35:52,847 --> 00:35:54,979
They were like, "At one time,
we were so bored
746
00:35:54,981 --> 00:35:57,782
that we just, like, set
the building on fire for fun."
747
00:35:57,784 --> 00:35:59,017
Wow.
748
00:35:59,019 --> 00:36:00,319
Now, in 1935,
749
00:36:00,321 --> 00:36:02,120
the building
burnt down to the ground.
750
00:36:02,122 --> 00:36:03,855
This thing?
751
00:36:03,857 --> 00:36:05,457
- This building?
- Yeah.
752
00:36:05,459 --> 00:36:08,193
The fire department believed
it was caused by arson,
753
00:36:08,195 --> 00:36:11,864
but they were never able to
figure it out or who did it.
754
00:36:11,866 --> 00:36:14,132
My God.
That's so crazy.
755
00:36:14,134 --> 00:36:16,334
They did this in the past.
Can they do it now?
756
00:36:16,336 --> 00:36:17,936
Yes.
757
00:36:17,938 --> 00:36:22,207
So, basically, these demons
were summoned by him.
758
00:36:22,209 --> 00:36:26,945
He sold his soul to get
everything he wanted.
759
00:36:26,947 --> 00:36:28,413
They took him when he died.
760
00:36:28,415 --> 00:36:31,717
They have his soul.
761
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:34,019
When they're around,
I feel like the living
762
00:36:34,021 --> 00:36:36,421
could experience them
in a few different ways.
763
00:36:36,423 --> 00:36:37,756
I think you might see them.
764
00:36:37,758 --> 00:36:40,492
I'm not sure how you would
interpret them, though.
765
00:36:40,494 --> 00:36:42,628
Like, if they would
be shadow figures or what --
766
00:36:42,630 --> 00:36:44,029
I don't know.
767
00:36:44,031 --> 00:36:47,031
You guys talk about
shadow figures here.
768
00:36:47,033 --> 00:36:48,900
It's always
in my periphery,
769
00:36:48,902 --> 00:36:50,569
but I sometimes
feel like I'm --
770
00:36:50,571 --> 00:36:53,505
Something's
following me around.
771
00:36:53,507 --> 00:36:55,507
They affect people mentally.
772
00:36:55,509 --> 00:36:56,575
They look for people
773
00:36:56,577 --> 00:36:59,444
who already have seeds
of darkness in them --
774
00:36:59,446 --> 00:37:02,247
addiction issues,
gambling problems,
775
00:37:02,249 --> 00:37:04,182
possible depression.
776
00:37:04,184 --> 00:37:09,921
They identify, and then
they go in, and they exploit.
777
00:37:09,923 --> 00:37:14,059
And once they start,
it just doesn't stop.
778
00:37:14,061 --> 00:37:16,728
So, Amy, you actually hit on
one of the biggest reasons
779
00:37:16,730 --> 00:37:18,530
Diane called us in.
780
00:37:18,532 --> 00:37:23,668
I feel like my husband
gets the focus
781
00:37:23,670 --> 00:37:26,738
of the weirdness
or the darkness here.
782
00:37:26,740 --> 00:37:31,143
Like, he just fell back
into depression and anxiety
783
00:37:31,145 --> 00:37:32,878
and into addiction.
784
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:34,412
You saw it, too.
Right, Shannon?
785
00:37:34,414 --> 00:37:37,882
Yeah.
He'd be completely irrational.
786
00:37:37,884 --> 00:37:40,085
The activity would tend
to flare up, too,
787
00:37:40,087 --> 00:37:43,155
whenever he was having
bad times.
788
00:37:43,157 --> 00:37:46,425
If they find somebody
they're interested in,
789
00:37:46,427 --> 00:37:49,828
they can attach that way.
790
00:37:49,830 --> 00:37:52,898
I was afraid that something
had attached to him...
791
00:37:52,900 --> 00:37:56,768
Okay.
...and that it was torturing him.
792
00:37:56,770 --> 00:37:58,904
It's connecting
a lot of dots.
793
00:37:58,906 --> 00:38:01,239
So, you said these little
demon things look different.
794
00:38:01,241 --> 00:38:02,440
How did they look to you?
795
00:38:02,442 --> 00:38:04,443
So, I did have a sketch
of what I saw.
796
00:38:10,384 --> 00:38:12,317
What the ****
797
00:38:18,592 --> 00:38:20,792
****
798
00:38:20,794 --> 00:38:22,194
My God.
799
00:38:28,001 --> 00:38:31,003
I don't know what I think
about this.
800
00:38:31,005 --> 00:38:32,871
I don't want them here.
801
00:38:32,873 --> 00:38:34,806
I don't like it at all.
802
00:38:34,808 --> 00:38:36,741
I don't want to be here
right now.
803
00:38:36,743 --> 00:38:40,746
I'm worried about
their future activities.
804
00:38:40,748 --> 00:38:43,815
They really did burn
the building down.
805
00:38:43,817 --> 00:38:46,885
This is
not a good place to be.
806
00:38:46,887 --> 00:38:50,422
I'm not feeling good
at all about this.
807
00:38:50,424 --> 00:38:54,826
I just had no idea it was
this extreme and this bad.
808
00:39:16,776 --> 00:39:19,543
So, Diane, Shannon,
you both told me
809
00:39:19,545 --> 00:39:23,915
you thought this place was
dangerous, especially for Josh.
810
00:39:23,917 --> 00:39:25,583
Now we know you were right.
811
00:39:25,585 --> 00:39:28,520
What we don't know
is if you can fix this
812
00:39:28,522 --> 00:39:31,856
or if you need to get the hell
out of here and cut your losses.
813
00:39:31,858 --> 00:39:33,857
For that answer,
I'm gonna turn it over to Amy.
814
00:39:37,397 --> 00:39:41,466
The first thing would be finding
a male medium who's strong
815
00:39:41,468 --> 00:39:47,004
to talk to and remove the
crazy guy and the crying man.
816
00:39:47,006 --> 00:39:54,412
Then you're going to begin
doing weekly cleansings
817
00:39:54,414 --> 00:39:56,481
for 3 months,
818
00:39:56,483 --> 00:40:00,418
and then monthly cleansings
for a year.
819
00:40:00,420 --> 00:40:02,754
Will that take care
of these demon things?
820
00:40:02,756 --> 00:40:04,955
No.
821
00:40:04,957 --> 00:40:07,825
The negative, evil demons
822
00:40:07,827 --> 00:40:11,228
are always going to be
a potential threat.
823
00:40:11,230 --> 00:40:13,431
Unfortunately,
there's not a whole lot
824
00:40:13,433 --> 00:40:15,566
that can be done
about that.
825
00:40:15,568 --> 00:40:19,971
So there's no way of getting rid
of these little devil things?
826
00:40:19,973 --> 00:40:23,307
No.
827
00:40:23,309 --> 00:40:27,178
But one of the things
that they did say to me
828
00:40:27,180 --> 00:40:30,581
when I was down here
was that they weren't interested
829
00:40:30,583 --> 00:40:32,850
in the people
who were here right now.
830
00:40:32,852 --> 00:40:34,184
The only thing
you could hope for
831
00:40:34,186 --> 00:40:38,456
is that their interest
in you guys stays at bay.
832
00:40:38,458 --> 00:40:40,324
I'm wondering
if there's anything special
833
00:40:40,326 --> 00:40:41,726
we should be doing
for Josh.
834
00:40:41,728 --> 00:40:42,794
I would keep him
out of here
835
00:40:42,796 --> 00:40:44,995
until you get rid
of the crazy guy
836
00:40:44,997 --> 00:40:46,664
and the crying guy,
837
00:40:46,666 --> 00:40:50,067
'cause all of that's
gonna affect him.
838
00:40:50,069 --> 00:40:53,270
So, if they do
what you're telling them to do,
839
00:40:53,272 --> 00:40:56,074
they should see a difference
in activity, obviously, right?
840
00:40:56,076 --> 00:40:57,608
Yeah.
841
00:40:57,610 --> 00:41:01,011
And then people will start
feeling better probably, right?
842
00:41:01,013 --> 00:41:02,880
Stuff won't go flying
off the wall anymore.
843
00:41:02,882 --> 00:41:04,082
Correct.
844
00:41:04,084 --> 00:41:07,218
And once you get rid
of these two dead guys,
845
00:41:07,220 --> 00:41:08,953
hopefully Josh
will be feeling --
846
00:41:08,955 --> 00:41:10,054
start to feel better,
847
00:41:10,056 --> 00:41:12,023
and you'll want to be
around him.
848
00:41:12,025 --> 00:41:13,023
This could be a good thing.
849
00:41:13,025 --> 00:41:15,359
Not just a paranormal fix --
850
00:41:15,361 --> 00:41:17,762
This could also be
a person fix.
851
00:41:17,764 --> 00:41:21,699
The person that I know
that he is.
852
00:41:21,701 --> 00:41:23,701
Now you have to make
that decision
853
00:41:23,703 --> 00:41:25,636
'cause you still have
a threat no matter what
854
00:41:25,638 --> 00:41:27,905
that can come in
at any time.
855
00:41:27,907 --> 00:41:29,173
Yeah.
856
00:41:29,175 --> 00:41:30,240
It's a tough decision.
857
00:41:30,242 --> 00:41:31,575
Yeah.
858
00:41:31,577 --> 00:41:34,846
I mean, any idea
what you might do?
859
00:41:34,848 --> 00:41:37,648
I think we should stay, though,
and try and deal with this.
860
00:41:37,650 --> 00:41:40,852
We are gonna follow
Amy's advice to a "T,"
861
00:41:40,854 --> 00:41:45,389
and we're gonna stick around
and hope that things get better.
862
00:41:45,391 --> 00:41:47,258
I'm glad to hear that.
That makes us feel good.
863
00:41:47,260 --> 00:41:49,927
Trust me.
864
00:41:49,929 --> 00:41:53,064
I really hope Diane
and Shannon follow my advice.
865
00:41:53,066 --> 00:41:56,266
If they do, Josh should return
to his old self,
866
00:41:56,268 --> 00:41:58,001
and they can all work together,
867
00:41:58,003 --> 00:42:00,738
running the tattoo shop
they love so much.
868
00:42:04,744 --> 00:42:06,210
Hey, guys.
869
00:42:06,212 --> 00:42:08,413
Shop update.
870
00:42:08,415 --> 00:42:11,215
So, we've been following
all of Amy's instructions
871
00:42:11,217 --> 00:42:14,085
since you guys left,
and things have been great.
872
00:42:14,087 --> 00:42:17,755
We moved the energies out,
and we've been cleansing weekly.
873
00:42:17,757 --> 00:42:19,657
Josh has
also been really great.
874
00:42:19,659 --> 00:42:22,760
It's really changed the way
that he lives day to day.
875
00:42:22,762 --> 00:42:25,496
It really has been a
life-changing experience for us,
876
00:42:25,498 --> 00:42:27,031
and we're so grateful.
877
00:42:27,033 --> 00:42:28,499
Thank you.
878
00:42:28,549 --> 00:42:33,099
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