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There's so much
murderous intent here.

I had a very violent encounter
with a male entity.

He's attached
to somebody here.

I think it's eventually
gonna kill us.

I think murderers would
be, like, bred here.

He confessed to as
many as 49 murders.

He could have been
a serial killer.

Yeah.

This house could cause
somebody to kill somebody.

And I just feel fear.

My name is Amy Allan.

This is like Grand Central
Station for the dead.

I see dead people.

They have pain
that they suffered.

I speak to dead people.

She hates them, hates them.

And they speak to me.

But there's only one way to
know if my findings are real.

It's a demon.
It's Satan.

I rely on my partner.

I'm Steve Di Schiavi.

I'm a retired New York City
homicide detective.

What was the body count,
what happened?

And I know every person,
every house has secrets.

I don't know if
it's a demon or not,

but it sure as hell
looks like one.

It's my job to reveal them.

I feel like I'm crazy.

But Steve and I never speak...

We never communicate
during an investigation.

...until the very end...

I don't even want
to show you this.

...when we uncover if it's
safe for you to stay...

I just don't want anything
to happen to my mother.

...or time to get out.

You have to get out.

I'm out here
in Colorado Springs.

It's about an hour
south of Denver.

I got a call from
a woman named Jordan.

Now, she says she made
a terrible mistake.

She started a paranormal
group with her wife,

and now all hell has
broken loose in her house.

She's in way over her head,

and says if Amy
and I can't fix it,

somebody's gonna wind up dead.

Before Amy arrives,

I look for any
leading information.

Besides typical things like
photographs and medication,

this home has
other unusual items

that I need to remove or cover.

When I'm done, the location will
be ready for tonight's walk.

Interesting.

I feel lost,

stressed out and lost,
and angry.

Then this overwhelming
sense of emptiness,

and it's just really consuming.

It's, like...horrible.

This house could cause
somebody to kill somebody.

Jordan, when we
spoke on the phone,

it sounded like things
were pretty bad here.

What's it like
living here?

The paranormal activity
here is destroying us.

The depression in this
house is overwhelming.

The anger is overwhelming.

So who all lives
in the house?

Well, there's my
wife, Lorie, and I.

Okay.

What kind of experiences
is everybody having?

It started with footsteps,

voices, shadow figures,

objects being moved.

Went to health issues.

What health issues
are you having?

I started having
serious stomach issues.

They did the scopes, they
did the things that they do.

Nothing.

All right, as far
as health goes,

I'm not sure if that's
paranormal or not.

That's something
we'll ask Amy.

So, Jordan, you
mentioned on the phone

that you have
a paranormal group.

What exactly
do you guys do?

People call us for help.

We've never had an issue,
never had a problem,

until two years ago

when we did an investigation
in Denver at a hotel.

So what went wrong?

I had a very violent
encounter with a male entity.

Ever since then, everything in
the house has gone to hell.

So you think you brought
something home from here?

I do, yes.

So besides this entity,

that you think you took,
or a person, from Denver,

what else
do you think is here?

Could be
Lorie's ex, Nora.

Why would Nora be here?
Did she die here?

No, but she was
very, very ill here

for a very long time,

and this was her home,
the only home that she knew.

What was wrong with Nora,
what did she pass from?

She had severe,
severe epilepsy.

And it had caused
such brain problems,

it turned into
a terminal brain issue.

You're in a tough
spot, obviously.

What are you hoping
we can do?

Just get our life back,
our house back.

I'm supposed to be the one
that protects my family

and my home, and I can't.

Nothing has
ever hurt me more

because I feel
it's my fault.

It's got to stop.

It's got to stop.

I'm getting this little lady.

She's really tiny,
probably in her 60s.

She's freaking out about
another dead lady that's here.

She says, "It's horrible,
it's horrible.

Help me, help me, help me.

She's abusing me,
she's abusing me."

She's like, "My head
hurts, my head hurts."

Maybe she had a stroke

or she had Alzheimer's
or dementia.

There's something going
on with her brain.

Is this something that
could affect the living?

I think the living would
experience headaches here,

definitely, like, migraines.

I think that the living might
hear her crying and yelling.

The really bad thing
is this head issue,

like, it's really painful.

And also, her
depression and despair.

Like it's really, really sad.

This is not a good situation.

Okay, Jordan,
so what's going on in here?

We have a problem
with the staircase

that's right back here.

It feels like
someone's on your butt,

they're chasing you
up the stairs.

Do you feel anything
or is it just a sense?

You feel the pressure.

Could it be
anything like maybe

the dogs are running up
on you, anything like that?

No, the dogs don't
go downstairs.

All right,
so anything else?

Yeah,
the shadow figures.

Sometimes I'll come
out of the kitchen,

and we'll run
into each other.

Jordan, you're sure
you're not seeing a shadow

from somebody else that
lives in the house?

Absolutely.

All right, so what do
you think this thing is?

I think it's the guy from
the investigation in Denver.

Okay.

There's a creepy dead guy here.

He is a war vet,
and he is military.

He's covered in mud,

and on his chest,
he wrote "Killer."

He is angry and lost,
and he's lashing out.

He's attached
to somebody here.

What he's doing to
people is wrong.

The living would see
an elongated, like, shadow.

He crawls up and down
the stairs.

So that makes me worried

about him causing, you know,
people to fall and stuff.

So, Jordan, I assume this is
where you and Lorie sleep?

Used to be.

But her health
has gotten so bad

that she can no longer
come down here to sleep,

so it's just me.

So she's
out on the couch?

She's out on the couch.

Okay,
so what's going on?

In here, there's huge
banging, knocking.

It's just very loud,
sudden bangs.

I mean, I see big trees
all around the house.

Is it possible that something
from the tree is falling,

or from wind, a branch
banging against the house?

No, we have them cut
every year.

Is it possible
the plumbing is banging?

No,
it's not that at all.

And we've looked.
I would love it to be that.

Okay, what else?

I've been pulled
out of bed.

I was laying here
asleep,

and he yanked me
so hard,

I felt like my shoulder

was just gonna come
right out of its socket,

and landed halfway
on the floor.

Were you in a dead sleep?
Yes.

You suffer from seizures,
or anything like that?

No.

So has anything else physically
like that happened to you?

Yeah, there's been
a couple of bad ones.

Like what?

I have actually been
walking out the door.

Okay.

And been pushed
against the wall,

almost like I was
being arrested.

You said a couple of
physical things happened.

What's the other?

I was getting up to go
and do something,

and literally was punched

in the middle of
the back so hard

that it knocked me
to my knees.

And it was so bad that
I ended up in the E.R.

And how are you
dealing with all this?

It's incredibly stressful.

And it causes major mood
swings for me, as well.

I turn into someone
I don't know.

I turn into someone
that scares me.

I don't know what I'm
capable of at that moment.

This military guy,
he's very, very scared.

I think that living people
would feel his fear.

Sometimes where he's like
freakin' the **** out,

yelling,
like, hitting things...

...punching the wall,

like, he's losing his mind,
you know?

So I think the living would
hear that and feel it,

because he's, like...

And he's physical,
you know, he's punching, like...

That man comes back here a lot.

He can do harm, he's a threat.

And it's not good.

So, Lorie, I was
talking to your wife,

and she feels that
whatever's in this house

is pretty dangerous.

Do you agree with her?

Definitely.

So I know you guys are
having experiences.

I want to hear
about yours.

When I'm sitting here,
I can hear things

in the kitchen
moving around.

Okay, so do me a favor and
describe what you're hearing.

It sounds like
someone's cooking.

The pans are banging,
the cupboards are going.

You hear, like,
the utensil drawer opening.

It's loud.

Anything else?

One of the main things
is the dark figure

that I see
in the hallway.

Describe what that
figure looks like to you.

He's darker than the dark.

He's so tall,
broad shoulders.

To me, he's looking at me,
like, taunting me.

So you've got stuff rattling
around in the kitchen,

like somebody's cooking,

you've got a dark figure
in the hallway there.

Right.

Anything else?

There was one night
that I was laying here,

and just
before I fell asleep,

I heard a woman
crying in my ear.

Right in my ear.

Like sobbing, cried
to me, "Help me."

Could it have been
somebody outside the door?

I thought that,
too, and nothing.

There was
no one out there.

Okay, that's strange.

Yeah.

I'm seeing the other dead lady,

the one the little lady
was freaking out about.

Her main area is the kitchen.

She's physical, she's
aggressive, she's in your face,

she's so stressed out.

Anybody experiencing, like,
extreme stress here, that's her.

This is a consistent anger
that's permeated this place

because of her.

The living here would
suddenly, spontaneously get mad.

Like if somebody moved in here

and they didn't
used to be angry,

but they move here and
they're always angry.

And why?

Well, she wants them to leave.

That's been her M.O.
is to get them out.

She apparently had
some type of protocol

that has worked in the past,

as far as, like,
getting people out.

Well, it's not
working this time.

So you're saying
she's gotten the living

to leave
this place before?

That's what she's
indicating, yeah.

Jordan mentioned to me
about some of the attacks

that's happened to her.

Have you had anything
similar to that?

I have woken up and I
have, like, fingerprints.

They're, like, three
gouges right here.

You ever
have violent dreams

where you maybe grab yourself
or anything like that?

No.

Nothing like that?
No.

Anything else?

There was this one time
that I was sitting here,

and I saw a woman standing
at the end of the hallway.

She was probably, like,
80, 90 years old.

We had locked eyes,

and her face
kind of transformed

into,
like, almost a monster,

like a demon
sort of thing.

Okay.
Scared me to death.

If you saw a picture of her,
would you recognize her?

Yes.

So, all that's going on,
how are you dealing with it?

Not very well.

I mean, every night,
I sob, I cry.

I can't fix it.

It got so bad, that's
when I turned to Jordan,

I said,
"We need the big guns." Right.

I said, "I got to call
in Amy and Steve."

I didn't know
what else to do.

What do you think
whatever's here wants?

They want to hurt us

as much
as they possibly can.

I think it's eventually
gonna kill us,

that it's gonna
wear us down so far,

that we're gonna
be dead.

This other dead woman,
she's bad.

She is dogging one of the
living people here, hard-core.

I want to say it's a female.

Basically, she is kind of
tormenting this person,

not letting them sleep.

It's just when they're
getting comfortable

and that's when she likes to
**** with this person.

That's when they've seen her,

like, this weird, morphed face.

Her fingers turning into
little black snakes.

This person now, like,
really can't sleep,

so, like, they're insomniacs,

and it's wearing them down,
which is making them sick.

She likes to make them vomit.

She likes to make
them feel pain.

She could physically harm them.

Do you have
any idea why?

She wants her house back.

And she's had it.

Basically, like, whatever she
has to do, she's gonna do it.

I'm just shocked
she hasn't killed

this person yet, honestly,

because I think she
could, I really do.

So before I got to town,

I called a bunch of locals
and had them start looking into

Jordan and Lorie's
property for me.

Well, an historian
just called back,

and she says she's got something

I'm definitely gonna
want to know about.

It turns out one of the
original owners of the land

got a deadly illness as
soon as he bought the place.

Katie,
you mentioned on the phone

that one of the original
owners of my clients' property

got sick the minute
he got here.

Before
we even get to that,

what do you know
about this guy?

Yeah, so Frederick Rowe
was his name.

He was
an insurance salesman

and a real-estate agent
here in Colorado Springs,

and he purchased
your client's property

in March of 1889.

Does he come alone?

Is he single, a family,
what's the story?

He brought along
his family.

He had a wife named
Clarabelle and two daughters.

All right, so I know he
gets sick pretty quick.

What happened?

Rowe ended up
contracting tuberculosis

a few months after purchasing
your clients' property.

This is a miserable disease
from what I've learned.

How long did he
suffer with it?

He suffered for the
better part of a year,

chills, fever,
weight loss,

coughing up blood, just
really pretty torturous.

So he ends up dying
July 18, 1890.

Okay.

I've got a copy here
of the death register.

Now, how old was this
guy when he died?

He was 57.

I'm feeling death down here.

I think it's a male.

This person right here
is -- is...

definitely, like, right
there in their death state,

like right when they're
right about to die.

They're still
breathing a little bit,

and they're feeling the cold
creeping through their body.

There's something
really wrong with it.

Okay, so I know that
at that time period,

TB was pretty rampant
all over the country.

Now, how bad did it get
here in Colorado Springs?

It was pretty bad here
with the dry climate.

You had a lot of people
moving here with TB.

TB sanatoriums pop up
around the city.

One was behind me here --
Cragmor Sanatorium.

Any idea how many
people died from TB

in Colorado Springs
during that time period?

There wasn't a vaccine
for TB until 1921,

so you had
thousands of people

dying here
in Colorado Springs.

A lot of pain here and illness.

It's the blood,
they're hearing blood.

Like,
they're trying to fight it,

but it's really loud.

They're hearing the pulsing,
they're hearing the blood.

It's hard to explain
what you're hearing.

Around you is a lot of noise,

voices, all these
things are going on.

It's like this weird
echo-y, like they're dying.

They're hearing it
and feeling it.

It's loud.

They're hearing that loudness.

I don't understand
what happened to them.

If you were exposed
for a long time,

you'd feel not good.

You'd feel very sick,
very drained.

Sick.

So far,
I have a couple convinced

they brought something
dangerous home

from a paranormal investigation

on a property where
one of the previous owners

died of tuberculosis,

but I want to see if
there's anything else.

Searching through old records,

I find an elderly woman who
was murdered in the mid 1990s,

right across the street from
Jordan and Lorie's property.

You know, you've got to
be one sick rat bastard

to murder a 96-year-old woman.

I'm headed over to meet
the city's medical examiner,

who says there was never
any justice in this case.

Dr. Kelly,
I appreciate

you helping me out
with this.

So the article
I found and researched

was a 96-year-old
woman who was murdered.

What do we know
about the victim?

So, Marjorie Mock
was found dead

right across the street
from your clients' home.

What do you know
about her?

She was kind of locally
famous, actually.

She did not
leave the house

unless she was
dressed to the nines,

full face of makeup.

She walked the mall every
single day for 17 years.

She was
in charge of the mall,

she kind of watched
over the place,

made sure everybody
was doing

what they were supposed
to be doing, and behaving.

So what happened
with the homicide?

What were
the circumstances?

November 10, 1995.

She doesn't show up, so
everybody grows concerned.

Where is she?

So they contact
the apartment manager,

and at that point, he
does a welfare check,

and that's when they find her
deceased in her apartment.

Did the house look like there
was a crime scene there?

So initially it wasn't
all that suspicious.

There's no evidence
of a struggle,

there's no evidence
of foul play.

It just looks like an
elderly woman who has died.

It's not until
the autopsy's done

that we find out that she's
got some significant injuries.

It looks like
she's been strangled

and
possibly smothered.

She's got hemorrhages in
her neck, bleeding, bruises,

breaks of the bones
in the neck,

all suggestive or indicative
of strangulation.

And here's an article
on the case here.

Did they have anybody
that they liked?

They talked to friends,
families, neighbors, everybody.

Really couldn't come up
with a solid suspect.

This is still considered

an active
homicide investigation.

Okay.

I'm seeing that angry
dead woman again.

Can you describe
the way she looks?

Probably my height, dark
brown hair in a bob.

And she's white.

I'd put her in her 30s.

She's either from
the 1950s, 1960s.

It seemed like
she belonged here.

So I'm thinking possibly,

I don't know if
she was an owner,

or her husband was an owner,
but she lived here.

And she was a neat freak,
homemaker.

And she was, like, perfect,

and the female showed
me hanging herself.

God.

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Another thing caught
my attention in research.

Back in the '80s,
a 15-year-old girl went missing

just about a mile from
Jordan and Lorie's house.

So I reached out to the
city's retired sheriff.

Now, he remembers the case well

and says she was the victim
of a prolific killer.

Well, John, thanks
for hooking me up

and coming out and helping
me out with this case.

So the girl that disappeared
near my clients' house,

what were
the circumstances?

It was November of 1987,

15-year-old Rocio Sperry
just went missing,

no leads, nothing to
go on at the time.

The case pretty much
went cold right away.

Okay, so now,
obviously, there was

a break in the case
that occurred, right?

Right.
So what happened?

The real break in
that case came in '95

when I was
elected Sheriff,

and I reopened a
homicide case from 1991,

where a 13-year-old girl,
Heather Dawn Church,

who was abducted from
her home in that case.

Okay, so you got
this homicide.

Any evidence at all?

The only evidence we had on
Heather Dawn Church's case

were some
latent fingerprints

that were at the crime scene
where she was abducted,

where we were able to
identify the prints

from a convicted felon
out of Louisiana

by the name of
Robert Charles Brown.

This is him here?
That's him.

What happened next, did
you guys make the collar?

We got him, yeah.

Initially he denied it,

was adamant that
he wasn't there.

He didn't know the family,
never been on the property.

As we got closer to court,

he did confess, he
gave us enough details

to convince us that
he was responsible,

and he did take
a life sentence.

All right, so now
you've got a confession,

life sentence, how do
you guys connect him

to the Rocio
disappearance?

Once he was in prison,

he started sending
these cryptic messages,

and we finally got enough

that we confronted him
on the Rocio Sperry case.

He confessed, gave
us intimate details

that only
a killer would know.

What information
did he give you?

That he picked her up
at a convenience store,

took her back to his
apartment, they had sex.

Afterwards,
he strangled her,

then he dismembered her,

and took her dismembered parts
and put them in a Dumpster.

He is serving two life
sentences here in Colorado,

and he's about an hour south
of your clients' property.

So now, you mentioned
on the phone

what a prolific
killer this guy was.

Did you like him for
any other homicides?

We did.

In fact, he confessed to
as many as 49 murders.

Wow.

Okay, so he's
claiming he killed 49.

How many were you able
to actually pin on him?

We confirmed seven,
total.

But I think he's really
good for all of them.

I think this guy
is one of the most

prolific serial killers
in American history.

Okay.

I feel like a very
evil person is here.

I think it's a man.

I don't feel comfortable.

I'm seeing some
weird ****

I'm seeing a guy, like,
dismember a woman's body.

I think this guy
is a serial killer.

I'm seeing this scene
of this guy, like,

totally wrecking this chick,

and feeling, like, high,

like, angry, like, sad.

I'm feeling all of
these weird emotions.

These emotions are

very, very, very strong,

feeling this sadness

and this anger.

There's so much anger

and so much, like,
murderous intent here,

I'm afraid that somebody here

could become a killer.

I think murderers
would be, like, bred here

and could either kill
here or kill elsewhere.

I saw several disturbing
things on my walk,

but the angry dead woman
tormenting a living person

concerns me the most.

She had
perfect hair, brown,

more of a squared jaw,
longer face.

But instead of a hand
or fingers,

she just has these little,
long, black snakes.

Her hair's a bit
longer and thinner.

Okay.

Amy,
is this what you saw?

Yes,
that's what I saw.

Now that Amy and I have
completed our investigations,

we're ready to reveal
our findings to each other

and our clients
for the first time.

So, Amy, I'd like you to meet
Jordan and her wife, Lorie.

Now, these two aren't
our typical clients.

Matter of fact, they're
paranormal investigators.

So, as you can imagine, things
had to be pretty bad here

for them to call us in for help.

They both agreed the
activity here is dangerous

and they're hoping you can find
a solution where they couldn't.

So, now that Amy
knows who you guys are,

we'll hear about her walk.

So when I walked
into the house,

I encountered a female.

She was very petite.

To me, it looked like she
was probably in her 60s.

I felt like this woman
lived here at some point.

I really couldn't
tell you how she died,

but she was complaining
about her head.

Seemed to me that she
had some kind of issue

with her brain.

The way that I felt the
living would experience her

would be headaches.

I thought even to
the point of migraines.

I really felt that
it was possible

the living would at times
hear her crying out for help.

The other thing
I felt was

because of this
immense depression

that she goes
into at times,

I felt that the living
would experience that

empathically with her.

So that's
the first person.

You okay?

Yeah.

I know who
she's talking about.

Now would probably be
a good time

for you to tell Amy
who Nora was.

Nora was my ex.

We were together
for 27 years.

She had a -- sorry --
a brain condition.

She was an epileptic.

She died in
a nursing home in 2014.

Right.

And she was, what, 52?
Yeah.

And you've experienced
some of the things

Amy was talking about,
right?

Everything
you said made sense.

When she mentioned about
the voice crying out,

you told me you were on
the couch, remember that?

Yeah,
as I was falling asleep,

a woman in my ear
cried out, "Help me."

Now, Amy --
she mentioned something

about sudden headaches.

Do either one of
you ever get those?

She does a lot.

They're bad.
They're terrible.

And I, you know, take bottles
of aspirin and Tylenol

all night, whatever,

and it just --
nothing touches it.

The depression in our
house is unbearable.

Some days you don't
even want to get up.

Okay,
so what else went on?

There's two dead people

that I'm extremely
concerned about.

The first one I want
to talk about is a male

that I encountered
initially outside,

thin, short, in his 30s.

Got that he was ex-military
or war vet.

Something really
off about this dude.

He's covered in mud,

and on his chest,
he wrote "Killer."

He's angry and lost
and he's lashing out.

I saw him, at one point,
attacking a female

and dismembering her.

It seemed liked he was
getting some kind of high

or relief
from doing this.

And that made me
feel like

he could have been
a serial killer.

Some of what you're saying
reminds me of one of the most

prolific serial killers
in U.S. history.

His name was
Robert Charles Browne,

and he was active here
in this neighborhood.

I got his photo right here.

Like the guy you saw,
Browne was an army vet.

In fact, he got dishonorably
discharged for drug use.

In 1987, he abducted and
killed a 15-year-old girl

named Rocio Sperry, now,
just about a mile from here.

When cops interrogated him,
he confessed to strangling

Rocio Sperry, dismembering
her body before he threw

her parts into
different Dumpsters.

So, the thing is,
Browne's not dead.

He's actually serving two
life sentences in a prison

about an hour south of here.

But since he's been in prison,

Browne has confessed to
killing dozens of more women.

If he's telling the truth,
49 innocent victims.

Normally I wouldn't
have even mentioned it

because this guy's still alive,
but in past investigations,

you've mentioned
serial killers can leave

fragments of their mind behind.

Yes, there can be
fragments of personality,

they leave a part
of themselves there.

Could that be what's
going on here?

More than likely,
yes.

We were called in to do
an investigation at a location

that was considered
his hunting ground.

We have done over 50
investigations of that location

in reference to him.

Makes sense because one
of the things I got was,

I said, this person
has an attachment

to someone in this house.

Now, you told me
you thought you picked

someone up on another
investigation.

Tell Amy.

We did an investigation
in Denver.

I had a very violent attack,
threw me across the room.

Picked me up and threw
me across the room.

Could have sworn that
we brought him home

because I've had many, many
violent attacks on me

in the home.

From what Amy's saying,
these violent attacks

may not be from where
you thought it was.

This guy might have
been attached to you

before you even went
to the hotel in Denver.

****

So what kind of experiences

would they have with
this serial killer?

I'm seeing him in the
basement freaking out,

punching
and slamming things.

I thought it was possible
living would hear this.

Tell her about the noises

you're hearing in the bedroom,
the banging.

Boom, boom, boom, boom!

Terrible, horrible banging.

Be, like, I'm expecting to
see a hole in the wall.

Another thing I
saw him doing was

crawling up and down
the basement stairs.

The living here
would see

this, like, weirdly shaped
kind of shadow thing.

You're going
up the stairs,

feels like someone's
on your ass.

You know, if you don't
hurry the hell up,

you're gonna
get run right over.

Tell Amy about
the shadow figures.

I seem to have
an issue with someone

in the very corner
of the bedroom.

Very tall, very looming.

Now, Lorie, you've seen

the shadow figures
as well, though?

Yeah, his head almost reaches
the top of the door frame.

And he's tall, you can
obviously tells he's a man.

He's taunting me.

He bothers me to death.

And the other thing I
was nervous about was

the fact that he
could get physical,

punching, hitting,
stuff like that.

I was physically punched
in the back so hard

that it knocked me
to my knees

and I couldn't move
for a week.

I had to go to the E.R.

You also got pushed
against the wall?

Like I was being arrested,
pushed down, tight

and held there for
at least 10, 15 seconds,

just held there.

I couldn't move.

He's a real threat,
full of rage.

And I'm very concerned

because he's trying
to influence you

to either become
a serial killer

or kill yourselves.

Be sitting here
talking to you

and the next thing
you know,

I want to rip your
**** head off.

And I don't even know who
I am and I go after her

and I scream and I yell
and I get in her face.

This is really bad.

So the next dead person I
encountered was a female.

White. I thought she
lived here at some point.

Time period I got
was '50s to '60s.

This woman is,
like, put together.

I mean, perfect.

Like the epitome of
a 1950s housewife.

I did ask her
how she died.

She actually flashed
a picture to me,

which was her
hanging by her neck.

Okay, so,
it may be a long shot,

but there are a few things you
said that remind me of a woman

I came across in research.

Now, her name was Marjorie Mock.

She was a housewife, she
lived in the apartment complex

across the street.

You said the woman you saw
was from the '50s or '60s.

Now, Marjorie came to
Colorado Springs in 1960.

What really got my
attention is when you said

how meticulous the woman
you saw was.

Every single day for 17 years,

she would dress up to the nines,
do her hair, the make-up

and go walk around
the local mall.

She never missed a day.

But on November 10, 1995,
she didn't show up.

People got worried about her,
they did a wellness check

and the manager found
her dead in bed.

Now, Marjorie was 96
at the time of her death.

Holy ****

So, authorities figured
it was natural causes.

But after the autopsy,
the coroner determined

that she had been murdered.

Her cause of death was
most likely strangulation.

Unfortunately, still an
unsolved homicide to this day.

Actually I have
a picture of her.

****
That makes sense now.

She has it out for a living
woman in the house.

She refuses to let this
living woman sleep.

That's when she messes
with her the most.

She wants to do as much
physical harm as possible,

she's building up to this,
torturing the person.

Living people
might see her.

She showed me her
twisting her face.

So I look up or
whatever and this woman,

she was a little lady,
sweet, little lady, I thought.

She, like, changed
into this creature,

rushed up
right into the doorway

and then, pah,
it was gone.

Scared me so bad and
I don't frighten easily.

And it was her.
I know it was her.

Do we think that everything
that's happened to Lorie

is coming from this woman?

Yes.

So, I did
a sketch of something

that she showed me
her doing one night.

The face of an old lady.

Wow.

I don't like that.
That's horrible.

I don't like that much at all.

So, is this lady
attacking Lorie?

Yes.

How am I supposed
to take care of this?

I don't think she
can take much more

mentally or physically.

Just want to see her smile,
I just want her happy.

And I can't help her.

Obviously you have
a dangerous situation.

Thing about her, too, is
she has inserted herself,

and she wants you out.

She made it clear
that she will kill

if that's what it
absolutely takes.

- I'm terrified!
- Okay.

I'm scared ****less.

I'm pissed, I'm infuriated.

I can't touch what this is.

Want to hurt someone?
You come, hurt me.

Whatever you want to do,
you do to me,

but leave mine alone.

Yeah.

So, Jordan, I know it wasn't
easy for you to call us in,

but it's a really
good thing you did.

I mean, the problem here

is even more dangerous
here than you thought.

So now it's time to
answer the big question.

Is there any way to fix this?

Or do you need to pack up
and get out of here

while you still have
your lives to leave with?

And for that answer,
I'm gonna turn over to Amy.

So, the first thing
that needs to be done

is that the house
needs to be cleaned

from top to bottom.

On every possible item,

surface, windows, walls,

and just
saltwater everything.

Now, the reason why
you're doing this is to

remove stagnate energy
that's accumulated.

Once you've done that,
the second step is

you will need to
get a shaman for you

and a Reiki master for you.

Have these individuals come
to the house at the same time.

You're gonna go to the
basement with the shaman.

That shaman is going to
do a removal ceremony

and then a blessing.

Then you,
at the same time,

are going to go
to your couch,

upstairs
in the family area

to have a clearing
and cord cutting done

by the Reiki master.

Once this is done, the
shaman and Reiki master,

they're going to
remove and block

the fragment left behind
by the serial killer

as well as
the angry old lady.

Now, the next day,
the Reiki master only,

comes back
and moves Nora on.

So, in the meantime,

do they need to stop
doing investigations?

Yes, take a little
bit of a break.

We definitely need
to do that, I think.

Now, if they do this, will
they start to feel better?

You're gonna feel
a lot better.

I hope so.

Least we can see a light

at the end of the tunnel,
I think.

There is hope.

You gonna take Amy's advice?

Absolutely.

- Absolutely.
- Absolutely.

Okay.

I think it's doable,
yeah, it's a lot of work,

but I'm willing
to do it.

We're gonna start
immediately.

Well, I'm glad we
were able to help.

I'm more thankful
than you know.

I happy,
I'm extremely happy.

Jordan and Lorie have
a lot of work ahead of them,

but I'm confident that
if they follow my advice,

they'll be able to live
in their house in peace.

Hey, guys, it's
Jordan and Lorie.

Wanted to let you know

that after Amy and Steve
were here,

we did everything
that Amy said

and we're happy to say
that the house is cleared.

The awful thing that was
threatening our lives even,

is out, is gone.

It's beautiful
and we want to thank

you guys for everything
that you did.

Thanks so much.
Thanks, guys.

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