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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:11,845 --> 00:00:14,512 This place is dark. 2 00:00:14,514 --> 00:00:16,314 It's basically Hell. 3 00:00:16,316 --> 00:00:18,115 It's destroying my marriage. 4 00:00:18,117 --> 00:00:20,185 He thinks I'm crazy. 5 00:00:20,187 --> 00:00:24,322 There's been something done here that has made it bad. 6 00:00:24,324 --> 00:00:26,924 It was a haunted house. 7 00:00:28,195 --> 00:00:30,262 You're talking about hundreds of dead people 8 00:00:30,264 --> 00:00:33,632 wandering around. 9 00:00:33,634 --> 00:00:36,534 Well over 100 people did die in the building. 10 00:00:36,536 --> 00:00:40,872 These things could kill your kids. 11 00:00:40,874 --> 00:00:44,475 "Get out of here, we don't want you here." 12 00:00:44,477 --> 00:00:46,944 And I just felt fear. 13 00:00:46,946 --> 00:00:48,813 My name is Amy Allan. 14 00:00:48,815 --> 00:00:51,616 This is like Grand Central Station for the dead. 15 00:00:51,618 --> 00:00:53,284 I see dead people. 16 00:00:53,286 --> 00:00:55,420 They have pain that they suffered. 17 00:00:55,422 --> 00:00:57,422 I speak to dead people. 18 00:00:57,424 --> 00:00:58,757 She hates them. 19 00:00:58,759 --> 00:01:00,358 Hates them. 20 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:02,961 And they speak to me. 21 00:01:02,963 --> 00:01:06,097 But there's only one way to know if my findings are real. 22 00:01:06,099 --> 00:01:09,501 It's a demon, it's Satan. 23 00:01:09,503 --> 00:01:11,169 I rely on my partner. 24 00:01:11,171 --> 00:01:12,704 I'm Steve DiSchiavi. 25 00:01:12,706 --> 00:01:14,906 I'm a retired New York City homicide detective. 26 00:01:14,908 --> 00:01:16,241 What was the body count, what happened? 27 00:01:16,243 --> 00:01:20,111 And I know every person, every house has secrets. 28 00:01:20,113 --> 00:01:21,246 I don't know if it's a demon or not, 29 00:01:21,248 --> 00:01:22,981 but it sure as hell looks like one. 30 00:01:22,983 --> 00:01:24,583 It's my job to reveal them. 31 00:01:24,585 --> 00:01:27,185 I feel like I'm crazy. 32 00:01:27,187 --> 00:01:28,920 But Steve and I never speak. 33 00:01:28,922 --> 00:01:31,322 We never communicate during an investigation. 34 00:01:31,324 --> 00:01:32,190 Until the very end. 35 00:01:32,192 --> 00:01:34,325 I don't want to show you this. 36 00:01:34,327 --> 00:01:36,795 When we uncover if it's safe for you to stay. 37 00:01:36,797 --> 00:01:38,930 I just don't want anything to happen to my mother. 38 00:01:38,932 --> 00:01:40,264 Or time to get out. 39 00:01:40,266 --> 00:01:42,000 You have to get out. 40 00:01:55,182 --> 00:01:57,415 I'm out here in New London, Wisconsin. 41 00:01:57,417 --> 00:02:00,285 It's about an hour outside of Green Bay. 42 00:02:00,287 --> 00:02:02,153 I got a call from a mom named Charlotte. 43 00:02:02,155 --> 00:02:04,555 Now, she bought a big old nursing home 44 00:02:04,557 --> 00:02:07,358 and moved in there with her nine kids. 45 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:10,362 The second they moved in, activity went crazy. 46 00:02:10,364 --> 00:02:12,163 She sounds really scared. 47 00:02:12,165 --> 00:02:13,565 Says if Amy and I can't help, 48 00:02:13,567 --> 00:02:15,633 somebody's gonna get seriously hurt. 49 00:02:20,173 --> 00:02:24,376 Before Amy arrives, I look for any leading information. 50 00:02:24,378 --> 00:02:26,911 This property is massive. 51 00:02:26,913 --> 00:02:28,580 So it's important I take my time 52 00:02:28,582 --> 00:02:31,916 to cover any photographs, paintings, 53 00:02:31,918 --> 00:02:35,119 or furniture that could influence her findings. 54 00:02:35,121 --> 00:02:37,388 When I'm done, the location will be ready 55 00:02:37,390 --> 00:02:38,856 for tonight's walk. 56 00:02:52,139 --> 00:02:57,542 I'm getting so many dead here. 57 00:02:57,544 --> 00:03:00,078 And it's extremely loud. 58 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:05,683 They were just crowding me and crowding my mind. 59 00:03:05,685 --> 00:03:07,819 Then I'm hearing evil. 60 00:03:07,821 --> 00:03:11,289 I'm nervous and I hear these dead were led astray. 61 00:03:17,831 --> 00:03:19,630 Charlotte, when we spoke on the phone, 62 00:03:19,632 --> 00:03:21,699 you didn't sound too good. 63 00:03:21,701 --> 00:03:23,701 I've got paranormal activity, 64 00:03:23,703 --> 00:03:26,437 something fierce going through this building. 65 00:03:26,439 --> 00:03:30,708 It's destroying my life, it's destroying my marriage. 66 00:03:30,710 --> 00:03:32,711 It's affecting all my kids. 67 00:03:32,713 --> 00:03:36,180 I don't know what to do to get our lives back. 68 00:03:36,182 --> 00:03:37,448 I'm trying to wrap my head around 69 00:03:37,450 --> 00:03:40,185 why you would move into a nursing home. 70 00:03:40,187 --> 00:03:42,720 I saw it and fell in love with it 71 00:03:42,722 --> 00:03:45,924 and it was perfect because of how big it was 72 00:03:45,926 --> 00:03:48,126 and it would give us the space that we needed 73 00:03:48,128 --> 00:03:49,260 for my large family. 74 00:03:49,262 --> 00:03:52,730 So who exactly lives in the house here? 75 00:03:52,732 --> 00:03:56,401 There's myself, my husband, Jason, 76 00:03:56,403 --> 00:03:59,804 my kids, six of 'em still currently live at home. 77 00:03:59,806 --> 00:04:01,739 Okay, so there's six kids 78 00:04:01,741 --> 00:04:04,075 and you and your husband currently living here now. 79 00:04:04,077 --> 00:04:05,543 And I'm struggling. 80 00:04:05,545 --> 00:04:07,011 I bet you are. 81 00:04:07,013 --> 00:04:08,612 Okay, Charlotte, do me a favor 82 00:04:08,614 --> 00:04:11,749 and give me a list of what the hell's going on here. 83 00:04:11,751 --> 00:04:13,818 We feel watched. 84 00:04:13,820 --> 00:04:15,753 We hear voices. 85 00:04:15,755 --> 00:04:18,022 Objects get thrown. 86 00:04:18,024 --> 00:04:20,291 We see shadow figures. 87 00:04:20,293 --> 00:04:23,027 We've been physically touched. 88 00:04:23,029 --> 00:04:25,763 Our health is failing. 89 00:04:25,765 --> 00:04:29,100 The mood swings, the mood swings are the worst. 90 00:04:29,102 --> 00:04:30,968 Who's being affected by that? 91 00:04:30,970 --> 00:04:32,703 Everybody in the house is. Okay. 92 00:04:32,705 --> 00:04:38,042 But my husband Jason is the absolute worst. 93 00:04:38,044 --> 00:04:40,979 He's like a light switch, he's like, 94 00:04:40,981 --> 00:04:45,250 he refuses to do anything. 95 00:04:45,252 --> 00:04:47,652 He thinks I'm crazy. 96 00:04:47,654 --> 00:04:50,054 Do you think he would talk to me about what's going on here? 97 00:04:50,056 --> 00:04:54,992 No. Jason is definitely in denial over it. 98 00:04:54,994 --> 00:04:57,461 Any idea what's causing all this activity? 99 00:04:57,463 --> 00:05:02,667 It was a haunted house prior to us owning it. 100 00:05:02,669 --> 00:05:03,935 I have these pictures here. 101 00:05:03,937 --> 00:05:07,472 Let me see. 102 00:05:10,210 --> 00:05:12,610 This place was a mess. 103 00:05:12,612 --> 00:05:14,011 Is there anything else you can think of 104 00:05:14,013 --> 00:05:15,913 that might help my investigation? 105 00:05:15,915 --> 00:05:20,050 My oldest son, Chance, him and his friends, 106 00:05:20,052 --> 00:05:22,487 they brought in a Ouija board 107 00:05:22,489 --> 00:05:25,623 and I know that some things happened, 108 00:05:25,625 --> 00:05:28,426 'cause he ended up calling me, crying, right after. 109 00:05:28,428 --> 00:05:29,961 At least you told me that. 110 00:05:29,963 --> 00:05:31,562 It's something Amy's definitely gonna want to know about. 111 00:05:31,564 --> 00:05:32,697 Now that we're here, I mean, 112 00:05:32,699 --> 00:05:34,566 what do you hope we can do for you? 113 00:05:34,568 --> 00:05:36,967 I love the building itself. 114 00:05:36,969 --> 00:05:40,571 I still have hope that, you know, whatever's here 115 00:05:40,573 --> 00:05:42,707 can get fixed and be taken out. 116 00:05:42,709 --> 00:05:45,376 I wanted to give my kids a better life. 117 00:05:45,378 --> 00:05:49,847 I have a lot of guilt because I'm not protecting them 118 00:05:49,849 --> 00:05:53,651 the way that a mom should. 119 00:05:53,653 --> 00:05:55,786 It's not supposed to be that way. 120 00:05:55,788 --> 00:05:57,855 I'm losing everything. 121 00:06:04,196 --> 00:06:08,532 I feel sick, sick, sick, sick, sick. 122 00:06:08,534 --> 00:06:13,337 Like something is coming at me, trying to push me back. 123 00:06:13,339 --> 00:06:16,740 "Get out of here, get out of here, we don't want you here." 124 00:06:21,348 --> 00:06:24,616 There's too many dead people. 125 00:06:24,618 --> 00:06:29,587 There's been something done here that has made it bad. 126 00:06:29,589 --> 00:06:34,292 Maybe some kind of, like, seance. 127 00:06:36,829 --> 00:06:39,363 And this was fairly recent. 128 00:06:39,365 --> 00:06:43,434 It wasn't done with the best of intentions, 129 00:06:43,436 --> 00:06:48,039 that's why there's so many different types of dead people. 130 00:06:48,041 --> 00:06:50,041 This place is dark. 131 00:06:50,043 --> 00:06:51,909 It's not good, it's not good. 132 00:06:56,583 --> 00:06:58,783 Okay, Charlotte, so what's going on in this room? 133 00:06:58,785 --> 00:07:01,986 I've heard the sound of, you know, people running, 134 00:07:01,988 --> 00:07:05,923 you can hear it from down here, on my upper floors. 135 00:07:05,925 --> 00:07:07,258 You have a lot of kids living here. 136 00:07:07,260 --> 00:07:08,326 I mean, you sure it wasn't one of them 137 00:07:08,328 --> 00:07:09,593 running around upstairs? 138 00:07:09,595 --> 00:07:11,529 I don't allow them on my upper floors. 139 00:07:11,531 --> 00:07:13,064 You sure it wasn't maybe a break in? 140 00:07:13,066 --> 00:07:14,265 Anything like that? 141 00:07:14,267 --> 00:07:16,067 No, 'cause we have an alarm system 142 00:07:16,069 --> 00:07:17,869 and it wasn't triggered. 143 00:07:17,871 --> 00:07:19,470 All right, so anything else? 144 00:07:19,472 --> 00:07:21,939 We've had a lot of voices. 145 00:07:21,941 --> 00:07:22,941 What's it sound like to you? 146 00:07:22,943 --> 00:07:26,210 It sounds like someone's talking to us. 147 00:07:26,212 --> 00:07:28,346 Both men and women. 148 00:07:28,348 --> 00:07:32,150 The women, they sound like they're kinda younger. 149 00:07:32,152 --> 00:07:34,352 Does any of it seem aggressive to you? 150 00:07:34,354 --> 00:07:35,286 No. 151 00:07:35,288 --> 00:07:37,354 I was petrified, though. 152 00:07:41,227 --> 00:07:43,027 So there's a woman here. 153 00:07:43,029 --> 00:07:45,763 She's got issues. 154 00:07:45,765 --> 00:07:48,900 She's a mess. 155 00:07:48,902 --> 00:07:51,168 She's, like, all over the place, so, 156 00:07:51,170 --> 00:07:54,372 I think that they would have a lot of experiences with her. 157 00:07:54,374 --> 00:07:57,308 I think people would hear her crying 158 00:07:57,310 --> 00:08:01,579 and possibly seeing her running. 159 00:08:01,581 --> 00:08:04,982 I think they think it's children, but it's her. 160 00:08:04,984 --> 00:08:07,952 She seems angry. 161 00:08:07,954 --> 00:08:11,122 Very angry. 162 00:08:11,124 --> 00:08:14,258 She doesn't know why she's here. 163 00:08:14,260 --> 00:08:16,260 She doesn't like it. 164 00:08:16,262 --> 00:08:17,862 And she wants out. 165 00:08:23,469 --> 00:08:25,470 Well, Charlotte, you said this place was unfinished, 166 00:08:25,472 --> 00:08:26,603 you weren't kidding. 167 00:08:26,605 --> 00:08:29,073 And it's freezing up here. 168 00:08:29,075 --> 00:08:32,510 We've been unable to finish it, you know, because 169 00:08:32,512 --> 00:08:34,011 all the stuff that's going on. 170 00:08:34,013 --> 00:08:35,479 Like what? 171 00:08:35,481 --> 00:08:39,617 I've had a lot of headaches, nausea, fainting spells, 172 00:08:39,619 --> 00:08:41,019 vertigo really bad. 173 00:08:41,021 --> 00:08:43,221 Well, you seem pretty healthy. 174 00:08:43,223 --> 00:08:44,555 You sure it couldn't be from the stress? 175 00:08:44,557 --> 00:08:46,290 I think it's the house. 176 00:08:46,292 --> 00:08:47,358 Doctors? 177 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:48,625 I've been to the doctors. 178 00:08:48,627 --> 00:08:51,028 Okay, and they can't figure out what's wrong? 179 00:08:51,030 --> 00:08:52,163 No. 180 00:08:52,165 --> 00:08:53,631 Okay, anything else? 181 00:08:53,633 --> 00:08:55,233 I've been touched. 182 00:08:55,235 --> 00:08:56,700 Okay, where have you been touched? 183 00:08:56,702 --> 00:09:01,839 My arms, my face, my lower back, I've had my hair pulled. 184 00:09:01,841 --> 00:09:03,841 Does it feel like a hand, a human hand? 185 00:09:03,843 --> 00:09:05,243 I can't tell what it is. 186 00:09:05,245 --> 00:09:06,510 Are they aggressive? 187 00:09:06,512 --> 00:09:09,713 The hair pull, it was more aggressive. 188 00:09:09,715 --> 00:09:10,915 Anything else? 189 00:09:10,917 --> 00:09:12,983 I've clearly seen a shadow figure. 190 00:09:12,985 --> 00:09:14,318 Do they look human? 191 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:15,453 Does it just look like a blob or? 192 00:09:15,455 --> 00:09:17,621 They're usually a dark shadow. 193 00:09:17,623 --> 00:09:20,258 But you can still see through most of it. 194 00:09:20,260 --> 00:09:21,525 All right, so how often 195 00:09:21,527 --> 00:09:22,460 are you seeing these shadow figures? 196 00:09:22,462 --> 00:09:25,195 It's pretty often. 197 00:09:25,197 --> 00:09:28,332 You know, if I come up here, I'll run across one. 198 00:09:28,334 --> 00:09:33,137 I've also seen a man in one of the upper bedrooms. 199 00:09:33,139 --> 00:09:35,272 One second, he looked like a man, 200 00:09:35,274 --> 00:09:39,343 and then he looked like a monster, and I lost it. 201 00:09:39,345 --> 00:09:41,011 Describe how it looked as a man. 202 00:09:41,013 --> 00:09:44,148 He was older, maybe 60s, 70s. 203 00:09:44,150 --> 00:09:47,151 He was white, he had some hair. 204 00:09:47,153 --> 00:09:48,552 Describe the monster to me now. 205 00:09:48,554 --> 00:09:50,421 It was like a creature. 206 00:09:50,423 --> 00:09:53,824 It was awful. 207 00:09:53,826 --> 00:09:54,959 Pure evil. 208 00:10:00,032 --> 00:10:03,834 There's some dead guy up in here. 209 00:10:03,836 --> 00:10:05,970 He's holding a clipboard. 210 00:10:05,972 --> 00:10:08,772 He's telling us to please leave. 211 00:10:08,774 --> 00:10:10,808 This is his space. 212 00:10:10,810 --> 00:10:12,376 Nobody's welcome here. 213 00:10:12,378 --> 00:10:15,779 Would the living have any experiences with him here? 214 00:10:15,781 --> 00:10:17,048 Yeah. 215 00:10:17,050 --> 00:10:18,982 I think they would see him. 216 00:10:18,984 --> 00:10:20,184 What does he do? 217 00:10:20,186 --> 00:10:24,989 He makes them feel really dizzy, nauseous, 218 00:10:24,991 --> 00:10:28,459 sudden, like, weird aches and pains 219 00:10:28,461 --> 00:10:32,997 that are really bad. 220 00:10:32,999 --> 00:10:35,866 He's saying that people have it all wrong. 221 00:10:35,868 --> 00:10:38,335 People have it all wrong. 222 00:10:38,337 --> 00:10:40,605 He says there's something much worse here 223 00:10:40,607 --> 00:10:44,108 because this man is telling me that it's basically Hell. 224 00:10:46,079 --> 00:10:47,745 I don't feel good. 225 00:11:17,275 --> 00:11:19,209 So, Hailey, I understand that you used to live here 226 00:11:19,211 --> 00:11:20,677 and this was your room. 227 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:21,612 Yep. 228 00:11:21,614 --> 00:11:23,080 I was talking with your mom, 229 00:11:23,082 --> 00:11:24,147 she thinks whatever's here is pretty dangerous. 230 00:11:24,149 --> 00:11:26,082 Do you agree with that at all? 231 00:11:26,084 --> 00:11:28,819 Yeah, ever since we moved in here, 232 00:11:28,821 --> 00:11:30,353 everything's just been different. 233 00:11:30,355 --> 00:11:32,222 In what way? 234 00:11:32,224 --> 00:11:38,094 My dad, he's been really horrible towards everyone. 235 00:11:38,096 --> 00:11:40,898 He seems upset and frustrated. 236 00:11:40,900 --> 00:11:43,233 What was the reason for you moving out anyway? 237 00:11:43,235 --> 00:11:46,503 One night, I remember waking up 238 00:11:46,505 --> 00:11:48,705 and there's just a dark shadow there. 239 00:11:48,707 --> 00:11:51,040 What'd the shadow look like to you? 240 00:11:51,042 --> 00:11:54,511 Just a shadow figure of a person, probably a male. 241 00:11:54,513 --> 00:11:58,448 Just stayed there and then I started crying. 242 00:11:58,450 --> 00:12:01,050 Have you ever had any experiences any place else? 243 00:12:01,052 --> 00:12:04,521 Yeah. I went to bed one night at my old house 244 00:12:04,523 --> 00:12:07,657 and there was someone walking across the bed 245 00:12:07,659 --> 00:12:09,793 right before I was going to sleep. 246 00:12:09,795 --> 00:12:11,861 Okay. You got young brothers and sisters here. 247 00:12:11,863 --> 00:12:13,196 You worried about them? 248 00:12:13,198 --> 00:12:15,132 Yeah. 249 00:12:15,134 --> 00:12:17,000 They're so young and they shouldn't 250 00:12:17,002 --> 00:12:18,402 be exposed to that kind of stuff. 251 00:12:18,404 --> 00:12:21,538 And they can't just leave like you did. 252 00:12:21,540 --> 00:12:22,606 Yeah. 253 00:12:22,608 --> 00:12:25,409 They're stuck here. 254 00:12:25,411 --> 00:12:27,811 Are you uncomfortable being here 'cause you look uncomfortable. 255 00:12:27,813 --> 00:12:29,146 Yeah. 256 00:12:29,148 --> 00:12:30,814 Maybe we should just sell the place. 257 00:12:30,816 --> 00:12:32,416 That'd be best. 258 00:12:38,957 --> 00:12:43,293 So, down here, this is just all darkness 259 00:12:43,295 --> 00:12:49,633 with a ton of dead people wandering around in it. 260 00:12:49,635 --> 00:12:51,368 The clipboard guy is telling me 261 00:12:51,370 --> 00:12:54,304 there's a devil who controls everything. 262 00:12:54,306 --> 00:12:59,176 He's really, like, bad. 263 00:12:59,178 --> 00:13:03,446 I think people would see a oddly-shaped black thing. 264 00:13:03,448 --> 00:13:05,515 To me, he's got goat legs. 265 00:13:05,517 --> 00:13:08,652 I'm sure he appears differently to everybody. 266 00:13:08,654 --> 00:13:10,720 All I know is he's evil. 267 00:13:12,791 --> 00:13:17,995 There are so many of these dead people in this darkness 268 00:13:17,997 --> 00:13:24,668 that are lost and if they stumble onto a living person, 269 00:13:24,670 --> 00:13:28,605 they kind of latch on. 270 00:13:28,607 --> 00:13:33,476 Say you get an attachment like that, you become their state. 271 00:13:33,478 --> 00:13:36,212 So if they killed themselves, 272 00:13:36,214 --> 00:13:38,949 you could potentially end up doing that 273 00:13:38,951 --> 00:13:42,485 because you've become them. 274 00:13:42,487 --> 00:13:43,887 After talking to Hailey, 275 00:13:43,889 --> 00:13:46,890 I wanted to see what Charlotte's other kids had to say. 276 00:13:46,892 --> 00:13:48,892 On the top floor and at the end of the hallway, 277 00:13:48,894 --> 00:13:52,496 I see a shadow figure. 278 00:13:52,498 --> 00:13:55,432 It's that spine-tingling, 279 00:13:55,434 --> 00:13:58,101 raising of the hair on the back of the neck -- 280 00:13:58,103 --> 00:14:00,170 Okay. Feeling. 281 00:14:00,172 --> 00:14:02,639 I was sitting on my bed up on the second floor 282 00:14:02,641 --> 00:14:05,041 and a mirror just flew off the wall. 283 00:14:05,043 --> 00:14:07,311 And then I just instantly started crying. 284 00:14:07,313 --> 00:14:09,979 All of 'em are having bad experiences. 285 00:14:09,981 --> 00:14:11,515 Well, I woke up one night 286 00:14:11,517 --> 00:14:14,451 and there were scratches on my chest. 287 00:14:14,453 --> 00:14:16,853 I feel like I'm being watched a lot of the time, 288 00:14:16,855 --> 00:14:19,122 like I'm surrounded. 289 00:14:19,124 --> 00:14:21,858 But the person who had the most experiences 290 00:14:21,860 --> 00:14:23,460 wasn't even a family member. 291 00:14:23,462 --> 00:14:25,595 It was Charlotte's best friend Nicole. 292 00:14:25,597 --> 00:14:27,397 So, what's been going on with you? 293 00:14:27,399 --> 00:14:29,999 Well, I've heard what sounds like an earthquake. 294 00:14:30,001 --> 00:14:32,469 You can feel the whole building move. 295 00:14:32,471 --> 00:14:34,738 The whole house felt like it was shaking. 296 00:14:34,740 --> 00:14:37,074 Is there a large amount of trucks going through here? 297 00:14:37,076 --> 00:14:38,408 I've looked to try to figure out. 298 00:14:38,410 --> 00:14:39,876 I've ran from one side to the other 299 00:14:39,878 --> 00:14:41,745 trying to figure out what could have caused it. 300 00:14:41,747 --> 00:14:43,880 I mean, any reports of an earthquake that? 301 00:14:43,882 --> 00:14:44,814 None. Nothing like that? 302 00:14:44,816 --> 00:14:47,150 No thunderstorms, no nothing. 303 00:14:47,152 --> 00:14:48,485 All right, anything else? 304 00:14:48,487 --> 00:14:50,019 I saw a little boy. 305 00:14:50,021 --> 00:14:51,154 An apparition of a little boy? 306 00:14:51,156 --> 00:14:52,756 Yes. 307 00:14:52,758 --> 00:14:54,891 But then when I looked at him, he just disappeared. 308 00:14:54,893 --> 00:14:57,226 I mean, I was still standing there trying to process 309 00:14:57,228 --> 00:14:59,629 who this kid is and he was gone. 310 00:14:59,631 --> 00:15:01,231 I mean, do you think whatever's here is dangerous? 311 00:15:01,233 --> 00:15:02,499 Yes. 312 00:15:02,501 --> 00:15:04,101 I mean, I'm worried about Charlotte. 313 00:15:04,103 --> 00:15:05,569 I don't know how she's doing it. 314 00:15:05,571 --> 00:15:06,970 She says whatever's going on in this house, 315 00:15:06,972 --> 00:15:09,772 she thinks is changing people's personalities 316 00:15:09,774 --> 00:15:11,107 and their emotions. 317 00:15:11,109 --> 00:15:12,175 Ever notice that? Yeah; yeah, 318 00:15:12,177 --> 00:15:13,776 I definitely have seen it. 319 00:15:13,778 --> 00:15:15,312 I think it affects all of them 320 00:15:15,314 --> 00:15:17,114 and I can see it bearing on her. 321 00:15:17,116 --> 00:15:22,252 She's scared and it's consuming every ounce of her. 322 00:15:26,057 --> 00:15:30,794 I'm just in shock that people actually even live here. 323 00:15:30,796 --> 00:15:33,463 This is bad, it's not a good space. 324 00:15:36,468 --> 00:15:40,937 You're talking about hundreds of dead people wandering around. 325 00:15:40,939 --> 00:15:45,475 These are like dead people that this darkness collected 326 00:15:45,477 --> 00:15:47,810 for some reason or another. 327 00:15:47,812 --> 00:15:50,547 You know, like, when people talk about purgatory, 328 00:15:50,549 --> 00:15:53,016 this place is like that. 329 00:15:55,688 --> 00:15:59,156 Just evil, bad, darkness. 330 00:15:59,158 --> 00:16:00,824 It can travel, I mean, 331 00:16:00,826 --> 00:16:04,961 it can go wherever it wants, basically. 332 00:16:04,963 --> 00:16:06,296 This is insane. 333 00:16:25,550 --> 00:16:27,683 Charlotte says her house used to be a nursing home. 334 00:16:27,685 --> 00:16:30,887 Now, clients get this kind of stuff wrong all the time. 335 00:16:30,889 --> 00:16:34,156 So, I had a researcher double check for me and it's true. 336 00:16:34,158 --> 00:16:35,891 I'm heading over to meet the researcher now 337 00:16:35,893 --> 00:16:37,960 who says everyone who owned the property 338 00:16:37,962 --> 00:16:46,235 had nothing but the worst of luck. 339 00:16:46,237 --> 00:16:48,104 Well, Carrie, you mentioned on the phone 340 00:16:48,106 --> 00:16:49,572 there's a long history of bad luck 341 00:16:49,574 --> 00:16:51,541 associated with my client's property. 342 00:16:51,543 --> 00:16:53,042 What was that all about? 343 00:16:53,044 --> 00:16:54,376 So it seemed like the property 344 00:16:54,378 --> 00:16:56,245 was really doomed from the beginning. 345 00:16:56,247 --> 00:16:57,847 Originally, the plan was to create 346 00:16:57,849 --> 00:17:00,183 a state-of-the-art hospital for the New London area. 347 00:17:00,185 --> 00:17:03,119 They started construction in 1931. 348 00:17:03,121 --> 00:17:04,587 Unfortunately, what happened was 349 00:17:04,589 --> 00:17:07,323 they ran out of money and it just never opened. 350 00:17:07,325 --> 00:17:08,458 So what happens next? 351 00:17:08,460 --> 00:17:10,660 It sat empty for about 15 years. 352 00:17:10,662 --> 00:17:13,596 There was vagrants, vandalism, squatters. 353 00:17:13,598 --> 00:17:15,832 The place really fell into disrepair. 354 00:17:15,834 --> 00:17:17,466 Okay. And it reached a point 355 00:17:17,468 --> 00:17:19,001 where even the newspapers were reporting 356 00:17:19,003 --> 00:17:20,602 that people broke in because 357 00:17:20,604 --> 00:17:22,405 they heard rumors that it was haunted. 358 00:17:22,407 --> 00:17:24,206 Okay, so even back then, 359 00:17:24,208 --> 00:17:26,208 they were saying this place had spirit activity, 360 00:17:26,210 --> 00:17:27,476 so to speak. 361 00:17:27,478 --> 00:17:30,012 I know, eventually, it becomes a nursing home. 362 00:17:30,014 --> 00:17:31,681 When does that happen? 363 00:17:31,683 --> 00:17:35,818 So, in 1947, Outagamie County purchased the property 364 00:17:35,820 --> 00:17:39,889 and it did eventually open in 1950. 365 00:17:39,891 --> 00:17:41,023 How's that go? 366 00:17:41,025 --> 00:17:42,424 They had poor living conditions 367 00:17:42,426 --> 00:17:45,094 and they had patient abuse scandals 368 00:17:45,096 --> 00:17:48,096 as well as mismanagement of the facility, 369 00:17:48,098 --> 00:17:52,168 and in June of '62, it was actually shut down. 370 00:17:52,170 --> 00:17:54,437 So at that point, they ended up selling it 371 00:17:54,439 --> 00:17:56,305 to a charity of nuns. 372 00:17:56,307 --> 00:18:02,444 By 1971, they had an inspection and it was not up to code, 373 00:18:02,446 --> 00:18:04,313 so they ended up selling the property 374 00:18:04,315 --> 00:18:06,381 about a month after that inspection. 375 00:18:06,383 --> 00:18:08,718 That was the end of the nursing home. 376 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:11,254 Okay, so it looks like for almost 21 years, 377 00:18:11,256 --> 00:18:13,055 it worked as a nursing home. 378 00:18:13,057 --> 00:18:14,657 I gotta assume during that time period, 379 00:18:14,659 --> 00:18:16,325 a lot of people died on the property. 380 00:18:16,327 --> 00:18:18,126 From my research and what I found, 381 00:18:18,128 --> 00:18:20,929 well over 100 people did die in the building. 382 00:18:20,931 --> 00:18:22,397 Realistically, that's just the ones 383 00:18:22,399 --> 00:18:23,799 that we've been able to find records for. 384 00:18:23,801 --> 00:18:24,933 So it could be a lot more. 385 00:18:24,935 --> 00:18:26,068 There could. 386 00:18:26,070 --> 00:18:28,270 Okay, so now the nursing home's closed. 387 00:18:28,272 --> 00:18:29,472 Now what? 388 00:18:29,474 --> 00:18:32,074 The property sat empty for a couple of years 389 00:18:32,076 --> 00:18:34,143 and then in 1974, 390 00:18:34,145 --> 00:18:36,678 it was converted into an apartment complex. 391 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:39,815 There were at least 15 more deaths during that time. 392 00:18:39,817 --> 00:18:41,016 What are we talking about here? 393 00:18:41,018 --> 00:18:42,551 They died of old age. 394 00:18:42,553 --> 00:18:44,821 All right, so it's obviously not apartments anymore. 395 00:18:44,823 --> 00:18:46,355 When did that change? 396 00:18:46,357 --> 00:18:49,558 In 2008, the government actually shut down the property 397 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:50,960 for asbestos violations 398 00:18:50,962 --> 00:18:53,095 and it was actually so dangerous 399 00:18:53,097 --> 00:18:54,630 that the owner was sentenced 400 00:18:54,632 --> 00:18:56,632 and went to prison for 18 months 401 00:18:56,634 --> 00:19:00,102 and it was foreclosed on in 2009. 402 00:19:00,104 --> 00:19:01,570 So when you said this place had bad luck, 403 00:19:01,572 --> 00:19:02,838 you weren't kidding. 404 00:19:06,511 --> 00:19:09,445 This darkness is taking over the whole building. 405 00:19:09,447 --> 00:19:12,714 It was outside, it wasn't in the building, at least, 406 00:19:12,716 --> 00:19:13,516 you know what I'm saying? 407 00:19:13,518 --> 00:19:14,984 But now it is. 408 00:19:14,986 --> 00:19:19,588 There have been events, four events, 409 00:19:19,590 --> 00:19:26,529 and these events made things with the dead worse 410 00:19:26,531 --> 00:19:33,536 and now that darkness is larger because of these events. 411 00:19:33,538 --> 00:19:37,673 My God, okay, that's just too much ****. 412 00:19:39,277 --> 00:19:42,278 No wonder Charlotte and her family are freaked out. 413 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:44,212 They're living in a former nursing home 414 00:19:44,214 --> 00:19:45,948 where conditions were terrible 415 00:19:45,950 --> 00:19:48,351 and more than 100 people died. 416 00:19:48,353 --> 00:19:51,821 But I want to see if there's anything else. 417 00:19:51,823 --> 00:19:53,155 Searching through old records, 418 00:19:53,157 --> 00:19:55,891 I come across Dr. August Borchard. 419 00:19:55,893 --> 00:19:57,559 Turns out he owned the property 420 00:19:57,561 --> 00:19:59,562 before it became a nursing home. 421 00:19:59,564 --> 00:20:02,965 And he ran a medical clinic there. 422 00:20:02,967 --> 00:20:05,501 You know, I need to find out more about this Dr. Borchard 423 00:20:05,503 --> 00:20:07,636 so I'm heading over to meet a local genealogist 424 00:20:07,638 --> 00:20:09,438 who's been doing some digging for me. 425 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:12,507 Now he says this guy's life was filled with sickness, 426 00:20:12,509 --> 00:20:15,110 premature deaths, and broken dreams. 427 00:20:21,118 --> 00:20:22,718 Well, Dave, it's good to see you again. 428 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:24,186 What were you able to find out about him? 429 00:20:24,188 --> 00:20:25,988 Dr. Borchard became a doctor 430 00:20:25,990 --> 00:20:28,858 after working as a schoolteacher for a while. 431 00:20:28,860 --> 00:20:31,393 Here's a picture of him. 432 00:20:31,395 --> 00:20:32,795 On the phone, you said this doctor 433 00:20:32,797 --> 00:20:34,664 suffered through some premature deaths. 434 00:20:34,666 --> 00:20:36,332 What'd you mean? 435 00:20:36,334 --> 00:20:39,334 Right, in 1901, his four-year-old son, Edwin, 436 00:20:39,336 --> 00:20:43,205 passed away of an unknown cause and that probably prompted him 437 00:20:43,207 --> 00:20:45,107 to go to medical school. 438 00:20:45,109 --> 00:20:48,144 Once he graduated in 1905, shortly after that, 439 00:20:48,146 --> 00:20:50,212 he ended up buying the property 440 00:20:50,214 --> 00:20:53,215 that your client now owns and they ended up 441 00:20:53,217 --> 00:20:55,818 living on that property and then he established 442 00:20:55,820 --> 00:20:57,820 his business, his medical practice, 443 00:20:57,822 --> 00:20:59,288 right on that property as well. 444 00:20:59,290 --> 00:21:01,623 So before my client's space was even built, 445 00:21:01,625 --> 00:21:04,293 this guy was treating sick people on the property? 446 00:21:04,295 --> 00:21:05,627 Yes, correct. 447 00:21:05,629 --> 00:21:07,696 Suffice it to say he's seen his share of death. 448 00:21:07,698 --> 00:21:08,764 Absolutely. 449 00:21:08,766 --> 00:21:10,232 Later, in the early '30s, 450 00:21:10,234 --> 00:21:13,902 he wanted to build more of a state-of-the-art hospital. 451 00:21:13,904 --> 00:21:15,638 So this guy built my client's place? 452 00:21:16,908 --> 00:21:18,307 I know the hospital never opened. 453 00:21:18,309 --> 00:21:19,641 Why is that? 454 00:21:19,643 --> 00:21:21,644 Dr. Borchard started having health issues 455 00:21:21,646 --> 00:21:24,246 in the early '30s, he had a heart attack in 1931 456 00:21:24,248 --> 00:21:26,915 plus the Great Depression which was occurring at the time 457 00:21:26,917 --> 00:21:29,518 across the U.S. dried up a lot of the funding, 458 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:32,455 so that brought the whole project to an end. 459 00:21:32,457 --> 00:21:34,857 His dream never came to fruition? 460 00:21:34,859 --> 00:21:35,924 Right. 461 00:21:35,926 --> 00:21:37,392 Whatever happens to this guy? 462 00:21:37,394 --> 00:21:39,862 Well, unfortunately, he suffers another 463 00:21:39,864 --> 00:21:43,599 heart attack in 1934 and that kills him. 464 00:21:43,601 --> 00:21:44,733 Here's his death certificate. 465 00:21:44,735 --> 00:21:46,802 If you notice on the bottom, 466 00:21:46,804 --> 00:21:50,139 the presiding physician, it's actually his son, Melvin, 467 00:21:50,141 --> 00:21:51,540 who's there at the end for him. 468 00:21:51,542 --> 00:21:54,143 Okay, so now he dies in '62. 469 00:21:54,145 --> 00:21:54,877 '62, yeah. 470 00:21:54,879 --> 00:21:56,211 So we have this building 471 00:21:56,213 --> 00:21:58,547 that never opens up as a hospital, 472 00:21:58,549 --> 00:22:01,083 he's dead, what happens with the property? 473 00:22:01,085 --> 00:22:03,819 Well, Melvin kind of abandoned the building 474 00:22:03,821 --> 00:22:07,956 until he finally sells it. 475 00:22:07,958 --> 00:22:10,426 I'm seeing the clipboard guy again. 476 00:22:10,428 --> 00:22:11,960 Can you tell anything about him 477 00:22:11,962 --> 00:22:13,295 when he was alive? 478 00:22:13,297 --> 00:22:14,497 He's young. 479 00:22:14,499 --> 00:22:20,502 He's probably in his 40s, very educated. 480 00:22:20,504 --> 00:22:26,242 I think that he had some kind of, position here. 481 00:22:26,244 --> 00:22:29,044 He, like, ran the place or something. 482 00:22:29,046 --> 00:22:30,112 Do you know how he died? 483 00:22:30,114 --> 00:22:32,781 This would be a heart attack. 484 00:22:35,453 --> 00:22:37,520 He takes care of things. 485 00:22:37,522 --> 00:22:39,722 He takes care of everybody. 486 00:22:39,724 --> 00:22:43,826 So I'm thinking he's moved a lot of people up here 487 00:22:43,828 --> 00:22:45,661 to protect them. 488 00:22:45,663 --> 00:22:50,265 It seemed like he was trying to protect everybody 489 00:22:50,267 --> 00:22:52,934 from the darkness. 490 00:22:55,606 --> 00:22:59,141 This is not good. 491 00:23:05,616 --> 00:23:07,616 For more information about the show 492 00:23:07,618 --> 00:23:09,151 and if you need us to investigate 493 00:23:09,153 --> 00:23:11,019 unexplained activity in your home... 494 00:23:11,021 --> 00:23:14,623 Please visit TravelChannel.com/TheDeadFiles. 495 00:23:14,625 --> 00:23:16,691 Click on Help Me Dead Files to submit your story 496 00:23:16,693 --> 00:23:17,593 and we'll help if we can. 497 00:23:31,675 --> 00:23:33,608 So, another thing caught my attention in research. 498 00:23:33,610 --> 00:23:36,078 A 19-year-old kid who lived near Charlotte's house 499 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:37,879 was found murdered in his car. 500 00:23:38,381 --> 00:23:40,915 Turns out he was the victim of a love triangle. 501 00:23:40,917 --> 00:23:43,317 I managed to track down his girlfriend's descendant 502 00:23:43,319 --> 00:23:46,053 and she says there was never any justice in this case. 503 00:23:52,662 --> 00:23:54,862 Well, Linda, I appreciate you coming out to meet me. 504 00:23:54,864 --> 00:23:56,664 I know you're related to one of the people 505 00:23:56,666 --> 00:23:59,067 involved in the deadly love triangle. 506 00:23:59,069 --> 00:24:00,401 Correct. Okay, explain that to me. 507 00:24:00,403 --> 00:24:03,538 Well, my grand-aunt was Esther Barcolt, 508 00:24:03,540 --> 00:24:06,073 the woman involved in the middle of all this. 509 00:24:06,075 --> 00:24:07,408 So this was your great-aunt. 510 00:24:07,410 --> 00:24:09,077 Yes, my great-aunt. All right. 511 00:24:09,079 --> 00:24:10,278 What do you know about her? 512 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,213 She was quite the character in her day. 513 00:24:12,215 --> 00:24:14,281 She was called a highstepper, 514 00:24:14,283 --> 00:24:17,685 which is a term for a loose woman in the 1920s. 515 00:24:17,687 --> 00:24:19,954 Okay. So take me through the murder. 516 00:24:19,956 --> 00:24:21,556 What were the circumstances? 517 00:24:21,558 --> 00:24:25,693 Well, on the 31st of July, 1930, 518 00:24:25,695 --> 00:24:28,295 the boyfriend of Esther Barcolt, Henry Glocke, 519 00:24:28,297 --> 00:24:30,364 he was 19-years-old. Okay. 520 00:24:30,366 --> 00:24:32,367 Was found dead in his car. 521 00:24:32,369 --> 00:24:34,368 When they found his body, it was laid out 522 00:24:34,370 --> 00:24:35,770 on the front seat of the car. 523 00:24:35,772 --> 00:24:37,905 His arms were crossed over 524 00:24:37,907 --> 00:24:39,774 the bullet hole through his heart. 525 00:24:39,776 --> 00:24:41,376 Now, there was a pistol 526 00:24:41,378 --> 00:24:43,978 but it was found on the seat near his feet, 527 00:24:43,980 --> 00:24:46,381 which is pretty far from his reach. 528 00:24:46,383 --> 00:24:48,850 So when the cops arrived, what did they think? 529 00:24:48,852 --> 00:24:52,120 Well, at first, they thought it was a suicide. 530 00:24:52,122 --> 00:24:54,522 Well, Ray Charles could see it's not a suicide. 531 00:24:54,524 --> 00:24:56,858 But we know it was determined to be a homicide. 532 00:24:56,860 --> 00:24:58,659 Right. How did that all come about? 533 00:24:58,661 --> 00:25:00,928 So there was a coroner's inquest held. 534 00:25:00,930 --> 00:25:03,464 Two different doctors testified 535 00:25:03,466 --> 00:25:07,335 that the victim's body was in an unnatural position 536 00:25:07,337 --> 00:25:08,870 to have shot himself. 537 00:25:08,872 --> 00:25:12,207 So at that time, they determined it was a murder. 538 00:25:12,209 --> 00:25:14,074 All right, so I see Dr. Borchard testified. 539 00:25:14,076 --> 00:25:15,743 Now this is 1930, right? 540 00:25:15,745 --> 00:25:17,211 Correct. 541 00:25:17,213 --> 00:25:18,546 So at that time, he owned my client's property. 542 00:25:18,548 --> 00:25:20,948 He was the first doctor on the scene. 543 00:25:20,950 --> 00:25:22,349 Who would want to kill this kid? 544 00:25:22,351 --> 00:25:25,753 Well, there's the story that the papers told 545 00:25:25,755 --> 00:25:29,357 and then there's the story that my relatives tell. 546 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:31,492 All right, so what's the paper say? 547 00:25:31,494 --> 00:25:34,428 Papers reported that Charles Barcolt, 548 00:25:34,430 --> 00:25:37,898 my grand-aunt's ex-husband, wasn't a nice guy, 549 00:25:37,900 --> 00:25:40,734 he was... He was abusive. 550 00:25:40,736 --> 00:25:45,172 He was demanding that Esther take him back and see only him. 551 00:25:45,174 --> 00:25:48,576 So local people thought that Charles 552 00:25:48,578 --> 00:25:52,446 had been the one to kill Henry because he was jealous. 553 00:25:52,448 --> 00:25:53,981 Okay. 554 00:25:53,983 --> 00:25:55,383 You said that your family has their own theories. 555 00:25:55,385 --> 00:25:57,719 My family says that Henry Glocke 556 00:25:57,721 --> 00:26:01,989 came into $500 on the day that he was murdered 557 00:26:01,991 --> 00:26:04,192 and that he was murdered because of money. 558 00:26:04,194 --> 00:26:05,927 $500 back then's a lot of money. 559 00:26:05,929 --> 00:26:07,261 A lot of money. 560 00:26:07,263 --> 00:26:08,196 All right, so the papers try to make it 561 00:26:08,198 --> 00:26:09,863 a juicy love triangle thing. 562 00:26:09,865 --> 00:26:10,998 Right. 563 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:12,200 But you're telling me your family thinks 564 00:26:12,202 --> 00:26:14,269 it was all about cash. Yes. 565 00:26:14,271 --> 00:26:16,471 And the case has never been solved to this day. 566 00:26:20,543 --> 00:26:22,677 My head, man. 567 00:26:22,679 --> 00:26:27,415 This is somebody that's getting hit in the head. 568 00:26:27,417 --> 00:26:29,616 There's two men struggling. 569 00:26:29,618 --> 00:26:33,754 I think it's about money or some ****. 570 00:26:33,756 --> 00:26:36,757 Like a teenager, I mean, younger, I mean, you know. 571 00:26:36,759 --> 00:26:39,560 I mean, like 17 or something, you know what I mean? 572 00:26:39,562 --> 00:26:42,363 It's hard to say 'cause it is dark. 573 00:26:42,365 --> 00:26:44,165 Somebody did somebody wrong. 574 00:26:44,167 --> 00:26:46,100 I'm hearing yelling. 575 00:26:46,102 --> 00:26:48,769 "You little piece of ****. 576 00:26:48,771 --> 00:26:50,037 I told you to do the right thing 577 00:26:50,039 --> 00:26:53,040 and what'd you choose to do, the wrong thing." 578 00:26:53,042 --> 00:26:56,377 He's trying to make him eat rocks. 579 00:26:56,379 --> 00:26:58,779 And I feel sick. 580 00:26:58,781 --> 00:27:01,048 Really sick. 581 00:27:02,519 --> 00:27:04,251 This is not good. 582 00:27:13,262 --> 00:27:15,730 I saw a lot of disturbing things on my walk 583 00:27:15,732 --> 00:27:17,698 but two stood out. 584 00:27:17,700 --> 00:27:20,668 First, the dead man with the clipboard. 585 00:27:20,670 --> 00:27:25,273 He had a pretty basic haircut. 586 00:27:25,275 --> 00:27:29,877 I would say straight from the '50s and '60s. 587 00:27:29,879 --> 00:27:32,346 He does wear glasses. 588 00:27:32,348 --> 00:27:37,418 Nothing really standing out about his eyes. 589 00:27:37,420 --> 00:27:41,556 Next, I described the devil I saw in the darkness. 590 00:27:41,558 --> 00:27:46,627 In front of me, was a entity, 591 00:27:46,629 --> 00:27:49,030 it was pretty tall, 592 00:27:49,032 --> 00:27:51,799 and just make it darker at the top. 593 00:27:59,575 --> 00:28:02,977 Amy, is this what you saw? 594 00:28:02,979 --> 00:28:05,179 Yes, that's what I saw. 595 00:28:33,409 --> 00:28:36,343 Now that Amy and I have completed our investigations, 596 00:28:36,345 --> 00:28:38,678 we're ready to reveal our findings to each other 597 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,748 and our clients for the first time. 598 00:28:41,750 --> 00:28:43,483 So, Amy, I want you to meet Charlotte, 599 00:28:43,485 --> 00:28:47,821 this is her daughter Haley and her best friend Nicole. 600 00:28:47,823 --> 00:28:49,289 Now, Charlotte bought this building 601 00:28:49,291 --> 00:28:52,559 so she could keep her huge family under one roof. 602 00:28:52,561 --> 00:28:56,629 Matter of fact, here's a picture of everybody. 603 00:28:56,631 --> 00:28:59,165 Everyone's convinced that whatever's here is dangerous 604 00:28:59,167 --> 00:29:00,366 and it's only a matter of time 605 00:29:00,368 --> 00:29:03,637 before somebody gets seriously hurt. 606 00:29:03,639 --> 00:29:05,639 So now that Amy knows just a little bit about you guys, 607 00:29:05,641 --> 00:29:12,646 I'm gonna ask her to describe her walk. 608 00:29:12,648 --> 00:29:18,718 So, this location, it was just ridiculous. 609 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:20,453 I was freaking out because 610 00:29:20,455 --> 00:29:23,990 there's so many dead, there's so much activity. 611 00:29:23,992 --> 00:29:28,328 For example, I saw one dead woman who was freaking out. 612 00:29:28,330 --> 00:29:31,465 And she was crying and wandering around and just 613 00:29:31,467 --> 00:29:32,866 screaming and yelling. 614 00:29:32,868 --> 00:29:34,935 Then, down the hall, I was seeing 615 00:29:34,937 --> 00:29:37,938 a lot of drugs and needles. 616 00:29:37,940 --> 00:29:41,474 I was feeling sickness, very dizzy. 617 00:29:41,476 --> 00:29:43,543 So something that came across in my research 618 00:29:43,545 --> 00:29:45,212 that might make sense of what you saw, 619 00:29:45,214 --> 00:29:46,613 you've probably guessed this place 620 00:29:46,615 --> 00:29:48,348 wasn't built to be a house. 621 00:29:48,350 --> 00:29:49,549 Yeah. 622 00:29:49,551 --> 00:29:51,751 It was built, actually, to be a hospital in 1931 623 00:29:51,753 --> 00:29:53,286 but it never opened. 624 00:29:53,288 --> 00:29:55,155 It sat empty for about 15 years 625 00:29:55,157 --> 00:29:58,692 and during that time, vagrants, squatters, druggies 626 00:29:58,694 --> 00:30:01,160 had the run of the place, basically. 627 00:30:01,162 --> 00:30:02,963 When they finally cleaned the place up, 628 00:30:02,965 --> 00:30:05,631 it operated as a nursing home for 21 years. 629 00:30:07,769 --> 00:30:10,570 After that, it closed down as a nursing home 630 00:30:10,572 --> 00:30:13,372 and it become an apartment complex for elderly people. 631 00:30:13,374 --> 00:30:15,242 Now, you said there's a lot of dead people here, right? 632 00:30:15,244 --> 00:30:16,576 Yeah. 633 00:30:16,578 --> 00:30:17,777 Well, you can take a look at this. 634 00:30:17,779 --> 00:30:20,446 This is a list of about 115 people 635 00:30:20,448 --> 00:30:22,582 that died on the premises. 636 00:30:22,584 --> 00:30:24,117 Wow. 637 00:30:24,119 --> 00:30:26,720 But the expert I spoke to said that 638 00:30:26,722 --> 00:30:28,655 this is the ones they have records of. 639 00:30:28,657 --> 00:30:30,189 It may be a lot more. 640 00:30:30,191 --> 00:30:34,460 This is unreal. 641 00:30:34,462 --> 00:30:37,264 What else is going on? 642 00:30:37,266 --> 00:30:41,868 So, I'm up on the third floor, 643 00:30:41,870 --> 00:30:44,337 I encountered this male. 644 00:30:44,339 --> 00:30:48,808 He has a direct connection to this location. 645 00:30:48,810 --> 00:30:54,681 And he was adamant that this was his space 646 00:30:54,683 --> 00:30:56,549 and that I did not belong there. 647 00:30:56,551 --> 00:31:00,954 Something is coming at me, trying to push me back. 648 00:31:00,956 --> 00:31:06,626 "Get out of here, get out of here, we don't want you here." 649 00:31:06,628 --> 00:31:09,695 He'll make people feel stressed, frightened, panicky. 650 00:31:09,697 --> 00:31:14,500 He can make living people feel sick, dizzy, nauseous. 651 00:31:14,502 --> 00:31:16,970 I'm constantly sick. 652 00:31:16,972 --> 00:31:19,238 I get the dizzy spells. 653 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:22,108 I get vertigo, I get horrible headaches. 654 00:31:22,110 --> 00:31:28,381 He's physical enough that you would probably see him. 655 00:31:28,383 --> 00:31:31,717 I saw a man in one of the rooms 656 00:31:31,719 --> 00:31:34,387 that scared the bejeezus out of me. 657 00:31:34,389 --> 00:31:40,526 You know, I literally, I backed out, I was a basket case. 658 00:31:40,528 --> 00:31:43,062 So, any idea of who this guy might have been 659 00:31:43,064 --> 00:31:44,397 when he was alive? 660 00:31:44,399 --> 00:31:48,735 He had a clipboard in his hand the entire time 661 00:31:48,737 --> 00:31:52,138 so I'm pretty certain he worked there at some point. 662 00:31:52,140 --> 00:31:54,474 He seemed to be in charge. 663 00:31:54,476 --> 00:32:00,946 To me, he presented as a 40-something year old man, 664 00:32:00,948 --> 00:32:03,950 very educated, and he told me he takes care of this place, 665 00:32:03,952 --> 00:32:06,953 that he takes care of everything. 666 00:32:06,955 --> 00:32:09,755 He said people have it all wrong. 667 00:32:09,757 --> 00:32:12,358 There is something much worse here. 668 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,494 A lot of things you said remind me of 669 00:32:14,496 --> 00:32:15,828 the guy who built this place. 670 00:32:15,830 --> 00:32:17,797 His name was Dr. August Borchard. 671 00:32:17,799 --> 00:32:19,966 He bought this property back in 1906 672 00:32:19,968 --> 00:32:21,901 and lived here with his wife and kids. 673 00:32:21,903 --> 00:32:23,837 He also ran his original medical practice 674 00:32:23,839 --> 00:32:25,171 here on the property. 675 00:32:25,173 --> 00:32:26,572 So if you were sick, dying, or dead in the town, 676 00:32:26,574 --> 00:32:28,508 this guy was gonna see you at some point. 677 00:32:28,510 --> 00:32:29,776 That's interesting. 678 00:32:29,778 --> 00:32:31,310 Now, he took responsibility 679 00:32:31,312 --> 00:32:33,713 of protecting the people of New London very seriously 680 00:32:33,715 --> 00:32:34,914 from what I was told. 681 00:32:34,916 --> 00:32:36,983 And his dream, from what the expert told me, 682 00:32:36,985 --> 00:32:39,185 was to build a hospital for the community. 683 00:32:39,187 --> 00:32:40,720 He spent years raising the money 684 00:32:40,722 --> 00:32:43,856 and finally started building this place in 1931. 685 00:32:43,858 --> 00:32:45,858 This guy had nothing but bad luck though. 686 00:32:45,860 --> 00:32:47,727 I mean, first he had a heart attack 687 00:32:47,729 --> 00:32:49,863 right after the construction started. 688 00:32:49,865 --> 00:32:52,398 But he kept plugging away and the place was 689 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,868 practically ready to go, it was 90% done, 690 00:32:54,870 --> 00:32:57,536 but at the last second, the funding dried up. 691 00:32:57,538 --> 00:32:59,005 Right after the money ran out, 692 00:32:59,007 --> 00:33:02,075 he had a second heart attack and that killed him. 693 00:33:02,077 --> 00:33:05,277 Now, I managed to track down a photo of the guy. 694 00:33:05,279 --> 00:33:07,613 Does he look familiar to you at all? 695 00:33:07,615 --> 00:33:09,148 I don't know. 696 00:33:09,150 --> 00:33:12,685 I had a sketch done of the person that I saw. 697 00:33:19,027 --> 00:33:20,627 You're not sure? 698 00:33:20,629 --> 00:33:23,563 Are you kidding me? 699 00:33:23,565 --> 00:33:28,167 You tell me if that's him or not. 700 00:33:36,644 --> 00:33:38,311 It's definitely him. 701 00:33:38,313 --> 00:33:40,446 Yeah, like, as soon as you grabbed it out, 702 00:33:40,448 --> 00:33:43,717 I was like, my gosh, that's the guy. 703 00:33:43,719 --> 00:33:46,853 Now, there's a reason why he told me 704 00:33:46,855 --> 00:33:48,855 there's something much worse here. 705 00:33:48,857 --> 00:33:52,392 When I made it down to the basement area, 706 00:33:52,394 --> 00:33:57,196 I was, like, put into the darkness. 707 00:33:57,198 --> 00:33:58,931 This vacant place. 708 00:33:58,933 --> 00:34:01,934 It's vast and in this darkness, 709 00:34:01,936 --> 00:34:04,670 is hundreds of people from all over the world. 710 00:34:04,672 --> 00:34:07,140 When I was trying to get more information on this darkness, 711 00:34:07,142 --> 00:34:12,011 the clipboard guy was referring to it as Hell. 712 00:34:12,013 --> 00:34:18,084 But I was raised Catholic, so I equate it with purgatory. 713 00:34:18,086 --> 00:34:20,019 This darkness has always been, 714 00:34:20,021 --> 00:34:24,557 but it was not always part of this building. 715 00:34:24,559 --> 00:34:28,294 It was outside of the building for a long time. 716 00:34:28,296 --> 00:34:34,367 But then I was told by the doctor that 717 00:34:34,369 --> 00:34:36,836 there were several events that took place 718 00:34:36,838 --> 00:34:40,640 and these events are what moved the darkness inside 719 00:34:40,642 --> 00:34:44,043 and the most recent one was within the last 20 years, 720 00:34:44,045 --> 00:34:49,982 there being some kind of seance or conjuring done. 721 00:34:49,984 --> 00:34:52,919 It was not done with the right intentions 722 00:34:52,921 --> 00:34:55,789 and so the darkness spread. 723 00:34:55,791 --> 00:34:57,990 And that's not a good thing. 724 00:34:57,992 --> 00:35:01,795 Well, my son played with a Ouija board. 725 00:35:01,797 --> 00:35:05,665 Him and his friends all went up to the top floor. 726 00:35:05,667 --> 00:35:09,202 There was a massive boom that had taken place 727 00:35:09,204 --> 00:35:11,537 and they scattered. 728 00:35:11,539 --> 00:35:13,473 And he actually called me, crying. 729 00:35:13,475 --> 00:35:14,941 That's not the only thing. 730 00:35:14,943 --> 00:35:17,210 The people who owned this building before Charlotte, 731 00:35:17,212 --> 00:35:19,679 they were doing haunted tours through there. 732 00:35:19,681 --> 00:35:21,080 What? 733 00:35:21,082 --> 00:35:24,350 Yeah. 734 00:35:24,352 --> 00:35:26,819 When I was talking to the expert about this place, 735 00:35:26,821 --> 00:35:28,354 as far back as the '40s, 736 00:35:28,356 --> 00:35:31,490 people would come to see if the place was haunted or not. 737 00:35:31,492 --> 00:35:34,627 Now, what's really concerning about this darkness is 738 00:35:34,629 --> 00:35:37,497 you have all of these random dead people 739 00:35:37,499 --> 00:35:41,033 wandering through your space all the time. 740 00:35:41,035 --> 00:35:44,103 You could hear things like people shuffling, 741 00:35:44,105 --> 00:35:48,241 walking, running, talking, laughing, crying, screaming, 742 00:35:48,243 --> 00:35:52,311 yelling, possibly seeing various apparitions of people. 743 00:35:52,313 --> 00:35:55,248 I saw a little boy standing in the doorway. 744 00:35:55,250 --> 00:35:57,716 By the time it took me to process, you know, he was gone. 745 00:35:58,987 --> 00:36:01,053 Now, I talked to four of Charlotte's kids 746 00:36:01,055 --> 00:36:03,856 and all of them are hearing noises, seeing shadows, 747 00:36:03,858 --> 00:36:05,992 apparitions. Makes sense. 748 00:36:05,994 --> 00:36:09,996 The biggest way that these dead affect the living 749 00:36:09,998 --> 00:36:12,732 is emotionally. 750 00:36:12,734 --> 00:36:15,401 They can latch onto you. 751 00:36:15,403 --> 00:36:16,803 So you would feel things like 752 00:36:16,805 --> 00:36:20,473 despair, depression, isolation, regret, guilt, anger, 753 00:36:20,475 --> 00:36:23,943 and when they latch onto living people, 754 00:36:23,945 --> 00:36:25,411 they mesh with you. 755 00:36:25,413 --> 00:36:30,282 You are taking on that emotional state of that person. 756 00:36:30,284 --> 00:36:32,685 So one of the biggest reasons Charlotte called us in is 757 00:36:32,687 --> 00:36:35,288 her and her family are dealing with emotional changes 758 00:36:35,290 --> 00:36:39,292 in the building that are just driving wedges between them. 759 00:36:39,294 --> 00:36:40,893 Talk about your husband. 760 00:36:40,895 --> 00:36:46,699 He is secluded, just aggressive, and negative. 761 00:36:46,701 --> 00:36:48,201 And I wanted to talk to him, obviously, 762 00:36:48,203 --> 00:36:49,969 but he wanted nothing to do with this investigation. 763 00:36:49,971 --> 00:36:50,903 Really? At all. 764 00:36:50,905 --> 00:36:54,640 Yeah. Really? 765 00:36:54,642 --> 00:36:56,109 So the dead and the darkness 766 00:36:56,111 --> 00:36:57,577 are causing all this crap. 767 00:36:57,579 --> 00:37:00,179 What do they want from Charlotte and her family? 768 00:37:00,181 --> 00:37:02,581 They don't really understand what they're doing or 769 00:37:02,583 --> 00:37:04,984 they're just wandering, they're lost. 770 00:37:04,986 --> 00:37:09,656 But they're being controlled by this evil presence. 771 00:37:09,658 --> 00:37:13,459 I would call it a devil. 772 00:37:13,461 --> 00:37:20,332 So, it's much stronger than what people consider demons. 773 00:37:20,334 --> 00:37:23,069 So I had a sketch done of what I saw. 774 00:37:35,417 --> 00:37:40,019 I don't think you're gonna like seeing this. 775 00:37:40,021 --> 00:37:41,220 No. 776 00:37:41,222 --> 00:37:42,688 I don't like it. 777 00:37:42,690 --> 00:37:44,090 I don't like it. 778 00:37:48,496 --> 00:37:52,465 I'm afraid to leave her. 779 00:37:52,467 --> 00:37:54,834 What are those things? 780 00:37:54,836 --> 00:37:58,438 These are souls that went to Hell 781 00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:03,109 and he has a couple of them that he keeps with him. 782 00:38:03,111 --> 00:38:06,179 I want to make this perfectly clear. 783 00:38:06,181 --> 00:38:11,250 You have a very serious situation here. 784 00:38:11,252 --> 00:38:19,125 You have young children who are directly in harm's way. 785 00:38:20,928 --> 00:38:24,997 These things could kill your kids. 786 00:38:28,470 --> 00:38:30,336 I'm scared for her. Yeah. 787 00:38:30,338 --> 00:38:31,337 I'm scared for the kids. 788 00:38:31,339 --> 00:38:33,872 Yeah. 789 00:38:33,874 --> 00:38:36,475 What are you gonna do? 790 00:38:38,013 --> 00:38:41,947 What can you do? 791 00:38:41,949 --> 00:38:43,348 I felt it. 792 00:38:43,350 --> 00:38:50,155 I just hoped that it wasn't true. 793 00:38:50,157 --> 00:38:52,225 I've worked so hard. 794 00:38:56,297 --> 00:38:58,498 And for nothing. 795 00:39:16,750 --> 00:39:18,283 So, Charlotte, the other day 796 00:39:18,285 --> 00:39:20,485 you told me you felt like you were living in Hell. 797 00:39:20,487 --> 00:39:22,688 And, unfortunately for you and your kids, 798 00:39:22,690 --> 00:39:25,224 it sounds like you are. 799 00:39:25,226 --> 00:39:27,759 Now we're gonna find out if there's any way to fix this mess 800 00:39:27,761 --> 00:39:28,894 so you can get on with your life 801 00:39:28,896 --> 00:39:31,029 and get your family back together. 802 00:39:31,031 --> 00:39:36,701 For that answer, I'm gonna turn it over to Amy. 803 00:39:36,703 --> 00:39:45,043 This situation, it's beyond, like, mere mortal intervention. 804 00:39:45,045 --> 00:39:50,782 There's nothing that can be done about it. 805 00:39:50,784 --> 00:39:59,725 Right now, honestly, the safest option is to move. 806 00:39:59,727 --> 00:40:02,861 As fast as you can. 807 00:40:02,863 --> 00:40:05,597 - We gotta move out. - Nowhere to go, I mean. 808 00:40:05,599 --> 00:40:09,801 How can I find something big enough, how? 809 00:40:09,803 --> 00:40:13,405 I totally wasn't prepared for this. 810 00:40:13,407 --> 00:40:14,540 It's not easy to tell people 811 00:40:14,542 --> 00:40:18,210 they've gotta leave their home, trust me. 812 00:40:18,212 --> 00:40:21,813 After you move out, that's when an exorcism 813 00:40:21,815 --> 00:40:27,886 would have to be done on your husband in a place of worship. 814 00:40:27,888 --> 00:40:34,159 What happens if, you know, Jason refuses to get any 815 00:40:34,161 --> 00:40:35,627 help for himself? 816 00:40:35,629 --> 00:40:41,500 If he's to the point where I think he might be, 817 00:40:41,502 --> 00:40:45,771 you might have to leave him. 818 00:40:45,773 --> 00:40:49,975 I know you didn't want to hear it but, unfortunately, 819 00:40:49,977 --> 00:40:52,177 it's bad news. 820 00:40:52,179 --> 00:40:54,246 It, like, breaks my heart. 821 00:40:54,248 --> 00:40:56,114 But thank God they came because if something 822 00:40:56,116 --> 00:40:59,251 would have happened to one of the kids. 823 00:40:59,253 --> 00:41:05,390 It's not worth having everyone get hurt. 824 00:41:05,392 --> 00:41:07,125 So I'll ask you simply. 825 00:41:07,127 --> 00:41:10,729 Are you gonna do what Amy tells you to do? 826 00:41:10,731 --> 00:41:12,330 Yeah, I have no choice. 827 00:41:12,332 --> 00:41:16,601 I mean, I care more about my family than a damn property. 828 00:41:18,873 --> 00:41:21,406 So I know this is bad news, 829 00:41:21,408 --> 00:41:23,408 but are you glad we came to investigate 830 00:41:23,410 --> 00:41:26,077 or are you like I shoulda never did this? 831 00:41:26,079 --> 00:41:28,280 I needed you to come out. 832 00:41:28,282 --> 00:41:29,681 I've been stuck. 833 00:41:29,683 --> 00:41:33,618 I've been stuck for, God, years, already. 834 00:41:33,620 --> 00:41:36,487 And I'm sure Nicole'll help you, whatever you need. 835 00:41:36,489 --> 00:41:39,023 Yeah, because I believe in her 836 00:41:39,025 --> 00:41:41,360 and I believe that she's strong. 837 00:41:41,362 --> 00:41:45,030 I'll figure it out, I always do figure it out. 838 00:41:45,032 --> 00:41:46,965 I'm so glad we did this. 839 00:41:46,967 --> 00:41:48,833 Now we can actually move out 840 00:41:48,835 --> 00:41:52,103 and not have all these horrible things happen. 841 00:41:52,105 --> 00:41:55,907 It'll be a good thing. 842 00:41:55,909 --> 00:41:58,844 Telling clients they need to move isn't easy 843 00:41:58,846 --> 00:42:01,780 especially when they have children. 844 00:42:01,782 --> 00:42:03,515 But if Charlotte follows my advice 845 00:42:03,517 --> 00:42:06,118 and moves as far away as possible, 846 00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:13,458 she and her family can find the peace they deserve. 847 00:42:13,460 --> 00:42:16,394 Hi, it's Charlotte and I have my daughter Haley-- 848 00:42:16,396 --> 00:42:17,862 Hi. With me. 849 00:42:17,864 --> 00:42:20,598 Since you've been gone, we've been looking for a place. 850 00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:23,668 We haven't found anything large enough for our family yet 851 00:42:23,670 --> 00:42:25,937 so hopefully in the near future, 852 00:42:25,939 --> 00:42:28,907 some properties will come on the market. 853 00:42:28,957 --> 00:42:33,507 Repair and Synchronization by Easy Subtitles Synchronizer 1.0.0.0 64421

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