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There's all of this chaos
and fighting going on.
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My daughter, she
would cry and stare
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out the window
and then laugh.
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I would always sleepwalk
and have night terrors.
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I thought something
was taking over her.
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Do you think
he's dangerous?
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Yes, he's enjoying
causing fear.
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A lot of dead
people in one spot.
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He could more than
likely kill you.
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I don't like this guy.
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And I just feel fear.
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My name is Amy Allan.
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This is like Grand Central
Station for the dead.
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I see dead people.
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They have pain
that they suffered.
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I speak to dead people.
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She hates them, hates them.
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And they speak to me.
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But there's only one way to
know if my findings are real.
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It's a demon.
It's Satan.
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I rely on my partner.
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I'm Steve Di Schiavi.
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I'm a retired New York City
homicide detective.
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What was the body count,
what happened?
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And I know every person,
every house has secrets.
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I don't know if
it's a demon or not,
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but it sure as hell
looks like one.
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It's my job to reveal them.
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I feel like I'm crazy.
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But Steve and I never speak...
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We never communicate
during an investigation.
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...until the very end...
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I don't even want
to show you this.
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...when we uncover if it's
safe for you to stay...
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I just don't want anything
to happen to my mother.
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...or time to get out.
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You have to get out.
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I'm out here in Jefferson City.
It's the capital of Missouri.
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I got a call from
a young couple.
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Activity got so bad for them,
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they had to pack up their bags,
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grab the kids, and
get the hell out.
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Now they got
a hell of a problem.
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They can't afford
to keep the house,
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but they know the house
is dangerous,
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so they refuse to sell it.
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These guys are
desperate and we hope
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we can help them find a way out.
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Before Amy arrives,
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I sweep the area looking
for any leading information.
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This house has a lot of
photos and religious symbols,
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so it's important that I
cover or remove them all.
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When I'm done, the location will
be ready for tonight's walk.
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There's all of this chaos
and fighting going on.
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****
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That was weird.
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Like I got a physical
push back on, like, my shoulder.
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There's so much energy,
it's insane.
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It's like this isn't even here,
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there's a **** whirlwind
of **** energy,
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like a vortex.
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So, Erin, when
we spoke on the phone,
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it sounded like things
were crazy here.
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Yeah, we bought
this house in 2017.
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The moment we walked in,
fell in love with it
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and six months after living
there, we had to move,
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we literally one
Monday morning said,
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"We're out," and put an offer
on a house two days later.
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Was there something that
happened that kind of,
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that was it,
you had to get out?
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Yeah, my daughter
had had night terrors
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and sleptwalked
every single night.
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She would cry and stare out
the window and then laugh.
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She was very weird,
she was very eerie.
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What was
the final straw?
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My daughter was
in the bathtub
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and she literally looked
over at me and said,
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"Mommy, what would
happen if I threw
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my baby brother
out the window?"
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What?
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Yep,
and I said, "Baby girl,
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we would never say that,
we don't joke about that."
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And a couple minutes later,
she started crying,
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and she said, "Mommy
I did not say that.
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My brain told me
to say that.
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I promise I did not say that,
I would never say that."
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Do you think she
was being possessed
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or do you think she
was being influenced?
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I mean, as a mother,
I don't even want to say
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that she was
being possessed,
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it makes me sick,
but, yeah.
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Okay, so now that your
daughter's in this other house,
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is she back to normal?
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She is, it's a night and day
different situation with her.
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When you were in the house,
who was living here?
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We're a family of four.
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It's me, and my husband's
name is Aaron also,
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and then Reina is 7
and Titus is now 2.
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This is a very
unusual case for us,
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you guys are already
out of the house.
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If we can fix what's
going on here,
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we'll give you
the tools for it,
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would you move back in?
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I don't know, even being
here gives me anxiety.
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Alright, so do me a favor
and give me a list
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of what the hell's
going on here.
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Footsteps, voices,
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electronics
turning on and off,
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apparitions,
my health declined.
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What's going on?
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I felt like I was getting
the life drained out of me.
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It was like it was
trying to make me weak,
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so that
I couldn't fight back
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and I couldn't
protect my daughter.
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Sometimes I thought
I was just crazy.
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It's a lot of residual
**** going on here.
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Would this residual
affect the living?
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Yeah, you're
feeling fear, panic,
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and kind of like disoriented.
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I think that could hit
you if you're depressed.
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It could make you lethargic.
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You might have dreams about it.
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I spent a lot
of time up here.
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This was my office.
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Every night
when we went to bed,
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basically we would hear
noises from up here.
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So, banging
or scratching.
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The house would
just start rumbling.
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Okay, I mean, things
have settled down
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at night and it's
quiet, but, you know,
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it's something Amy may be
able to help us out with.
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Now, is anything else
going on?
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Yeah, as I was cleaning
out my daughter's room,
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we were packing up
all of our stuff
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and I looked over
and there was a man
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standing in her doorway.
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He was tall and thin
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and he had an old-fashioned
suit and a top hat.
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Give me an age.
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40, 45.
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Alright, so with all
this activity going on,
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what the hell do
you think this house
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is asking of you
or wants from you?
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Sometimes I think it
wants to scare us,
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sometimes I think it
wants to control us
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and sometimes I think
it wants
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to suck the life
out of us.
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I keep seeing a doctor.
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This guy was just always,
like, super stressed.
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I feel like people
are seeing him.
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This seems pretty consistent,
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like it could be any
time of day or night
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and more when they're having,
like, taking a shower.
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I don't like him now.
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Do you think
he's dangerous?
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Yes, I do, because
of the knowledge
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he has about the body,
he's enjoying causing fear
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and he's enjoying
intimidating these people.
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His ultimate goal, really,
isn't to kill anybody,
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but he could if he wanted to.
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This is where most of
the things happened to me.
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Okay, like what?
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When I slept, I had
nightmares all the time.
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I remember one
very vividly,
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to the point where I
would recognize the people
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in it if I saw
them on the street.
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What happened
in that dream?
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I was walking
on a set of stairs
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and there was
an older woman
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and she was holding
a baby and that baby
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was frustrating her.
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And she beat the baby's head
against the stairs.
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So, was anybody else
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having these vivid nightmares
like you?
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Yeah, Reina definitely had
some terrible nightmares.
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Anything else?
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I had something lay on
top of me and trap me
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for about 10 minutes,
it smothered me.
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Alright,
so what happened?
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I was asleep
and I woke up
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and something was wrapping
its body on me.
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I couldn't move
and I couldn't scream
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and I couldn't ask
for help.
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Did it feel
like a person's body
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or just like
a mass on you?
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It was a big, dark mass
just smothering me.
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So while you were
getting pinned down,
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what sense did you get?
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It felt more like
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it liked taking
control of me.
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The doctor likes to
kind of torture people
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and he can get physical.
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Somebody's in here
trying to sleep
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and I saw him bolt
out of that bathroom
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and they're seeing this
thing coming at them.
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I'm being **** attacked.
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I'm being charged by this thing,
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I don't know what
the **** it is.
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What are they
seeing then?
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More of like a black ball thing,
but, like, fast.
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They're and
it's in their face,
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you know, like freaking 'em out.
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Definitely like,
"I'm gonna hurt you"
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is the feeling that
they're getting with it.
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They're waking up,
they look over,
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this thing charges them,
the next thing they know
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is that they're being
pushed on and touched.
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He's like doing weird ****,
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like giving them "examinations,"
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but it's like obviously
not appropriate,
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so they're feeling violated.
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It's **** weird!
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So Reina, I was
talking to Mommy today
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and she said
when you lived here,
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you were having
a tough time.
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Now, can you tell me
about some of the things
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that were going on?
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I would always sleepwalk
and have night terrors.
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Do you remember getting
up and sleepwalking
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or waking up from it?
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No?
No.
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Do you remember the
nightmares you were having?
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No.
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Okay.
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Anything else?
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Yes, I remember voices.
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Do you remember
what was said?
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When I was by the stairs,
I heard a girl say hi.
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And did you hear it
in your ear,
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or did you hear it
in your head?
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I heard it in my ear.
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In your ear, okay.
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Now, Reina, Mommy
told me about a time
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that a voice told
you to do something
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bad to your brother,
do you remember that?
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Yes, I think
it was a man.
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That told you to
hurt your brother?
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You didn't come up
with that yourself?
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No.
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But you don't hear those
voices anymore, do you?
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No.
That's good.
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So, Reina, this is
a real pretty room.
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If we can fix this,
the problem here,
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would you want to come
back and stay here?
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- No.
- No?
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Is it because you were
afraid when you were here?
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A little bit afraid.
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Yeah, okay, honey.
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And you don't want that
stuff to happen again?
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Okay.
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I'm seeing a teenage boy.
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He has brain damage.
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His energy is all weird.
254
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Okay, I'm seeing
somebody getting
255
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literally thrown
down the stairs.
256
00:11:27,719 --> 00:11:30,921
Physically picked up and thrown.
257
00:11:33,391 --> 00:11:36,126
Somebody choking, choking.
258
00:11:43,936 --> 00:11:47,737
The teenage boy is up
here with some man.
259
00:11:47,739 --> 00:11:50,073
What is
their relationship?
260
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I think
it's father and son.
261
00:11:53,946 --> 00:11:58,148
The thing about his
kid is this kid,
262
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who has brain damage, he
does cause a lot of problems.
263
00:12:03,155 --> 00:12:05,689
He doesn't know
how to communicate,
264
00:12:05,691 --> 00:12:08,224
so then he'll get really enraged
265
00:12:08,226 --> 00:12:11,628
when people aren't paying
attention or responding.
266
00:12:13,299 --> 00:12:16,499
And then he causes,
like, issues.
267
00:12:24,243 --> 00:12:26,443
So, Aaron, I was talking
to your wife
268
00:12:26,445 --> 00:12:28,511
and she was talking
to me about stuff
269
00:12:28,513 --> 00:12:29,846
going on with Reina.
270
00:12:29,848 --> 00:12:32,716
Might have been influenced
by something in the house.
271
00:12:32,718 --> 00:12:34,184
Do you agree with that?
272
00:12:34,186 --> 00:12:36,520
You know, the sleepwalking
was -- was creepy
273
00:12:36,522 --> 00:12:39,522
and I noticed that it was
happening every single night.
274
00:12:39,524 --> 00:12:41,124
I thought something was --
275
00:12:41,126 --> 00:12:43,059
something was
taking over her.
276
00:12:43,061 --> 00:12:45,395
And then in the morning, she
had no recollection of it.
277
00:12:45,397 --> 00:12:46,530
That must have
broke your heart.
278
00:12:46,532 --> 00:12:48,799
I was angry, just
angry at the situation,
279
00:12:48,801 --> 00:12:49,933
'cause I couldn't fix it.
280
00:12:49,935 --> 00:12:51,935
Do you believe
in this stuff?
281
00:12:51,937 --> 00:12:55,405
Before, not really, you know,
I'm a former police officer,
282
00:12:55,407 --> 00:12:57,474
former Marine, it was
hard for me to believe
283
00:12:57,476 --> 00:12:58,875
until I had
my own experiences.
284
00:12:58,877 --> 00:13:00,877
So you were
a Marine as well?
285
00:13:00,879 --> 00:13:01,945
Yes.
286
00:13:01,947 --> 00:13:03,346
Okay, Semper Fi, brother.
287
00:13:03,348 --> 00:13:04,948
Now, as far as experiences,
288
00:13:04,950 --> 00:13:07,417
what can you tell me
that you've had?
289
00:13:07,419 --> 00:13:09,486
In our bedroom,
above was the attic
290
00:13:09,488 --> 00:13:12,555
and I always heard
a loud banging noise,
291
00:13:12,557 --> 00:13:15,225
which I could describe
as someone dropping a box
292
00:13:15,227 --> 00:13:16,760
and then getting
upset and kicking it,
293
00:13:16,762 --> 00:13:18,428
'cause you would hear
a slide.
294
00:13:18,430 --> 00:13:19,429
Interesting.
295
00:13:19,431 --> 00:13:20,363
When I was talking
to your wife,
296
00:13:20,365 --> 00:13:22,499
she mentioned
the same noises.
297
00:13:22,501 --> 00:13:25,969
Is it possible it was
just an old-house noise?
298
00:13:25,971 --> 00:13:27,371
You know, at first
I thought it was,
299
00:13:27,373 --> 00:13:30,707
but that space above
the room, there's no floor.
300
00:13:30,709 --> 00:13:33,710
So, a loud noise like that
doesn't make any sense.
301
00:13:33,712 --> 00:13:35,178
Right, okay.
302
00:13:35,180 --> 00:13:36,379
Anything else?
303
00:13:36,381 --> 00:13:37,914
Every time I come
into the basement,
304
00:13:37,916 --> 00:13:39,383
I always feel
like someone --
305
00:13:39,385 --> 00:13:40,984
someone's jumping
on my back.
306
00:13:40,986 --> 00:13:43,453
Okay, so you're telling me
you're feeling that right now?
307
00:13:43,455 --> 00:13:45,588
Right now, yeah.
308
00:13:45,590 --> 00:13:49,525
It feels like,
just, almost like,
309
00:13:49,527 --> 00:13:51,662
like a lighter person,
like they have
310
00:13:51,664 --> 00:13:54,330
their legs wrapped around
my waist and on my --
311
00:13:54,332 --> 00:13:56,333
almost like a kid would
be holding onto me.
312
00:13:56,335 --> 00:13:58,068
It stays with me until
I leave this room.
313
00:13:58,070 --> 00:14:01,537
If we can fix it, would
you consider coming back?
314
00:14:01,539 --> 00:14:04,073
No, this house
terrifies me.
315
00:14:04,075 --> 00:14:05,542
Okay.
316
00:14:05,544 --> 00:14:06,810
As a former Marine,
a cop,
317
00:14:06,812 --> 00:14:08,278
if you sold
this house tomorrow,
318
00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:10,680
do you think you'd be putting
the other people in danger?
319
00:14:10,682 --> 00:14:12,348
Yes, 100%.
320
00:14:12,350 --> 00:14:13,417
Okay.
321
00:14:14,686 --> 00:14:19,289
The kid, the teenage boy, makes
me fearful for the living.
322
00:14:19,291 --> 00:14:22,692
When he freaks out,
he will lash out
323
00:14:22,694 --> 00:14:25,561
by punching people
or pushing people.
324
00:14:26,498 --> 00:14:28,932
And because there's
so many stairs here,
325
00:14:28,934 --> 00:14:32,101
if you're in the wrong
place and he freaks out,
326
00:14:32,103 --> 00:14:37,441
he could cause somebody
accidentally more harm.
327
00:14:37,443 --> 00:14:41,177
He's so uncontrollable
and unpredictable.
328
00:14:41,179 --> 00:14:44,047
He'll, like, throw a fit
and he'll, like, be stomping
329
00:14:44,049 --> 00:14:48,684
and screaming and yelling
and slamming things.
330
00:14:48,686 --> 00:14:52,055
He has PK, too.
331
00:14:52,057 --> 00:14:54,524
So, he's able to move
and affect things
332
00:14:54,526 --> 00:14:56,459
with his energy, so it's like,
333
00:14:56,461 --> 00:14:59,862
a double, you know,
kind of whammy there
334
00:14:59,864 --> 00:15:02,732
for living people who
are experiencing this.
335
00:15:02,734 --> 00:15:04,067
It's just like, "Look at me.
Look at me"
336
00:15:04,069 --> 00:15:06,069
or "Hear me, see me."
337
00:15:06,071 --> 00:15:07,137
He's bad.
338
00:15:27,825 --> 00:15:30,293
I would've had to been blind
to miss this first lead.
339
00:15:30,295 --> 00:15:32,829
There's this huge prison,
just down the street
340
00:15:32,831 --> 00:15:34,296
from the client's house.
341
00:15:34,298 --> 00:15:35,898
So, I made some calls
and tracked down
342
00:15:35,900 --> 00:15:37,466
the last deputy warden
of the place,
343
00:15:37,468 --> 00:15:39,034
who agreed to meet with me.
344
00:15:39,036 --> 00:15:41,237
He says the state pen
was known as
345
00:15:41,239 --> 00:15:43,973
the bloodiest 47 acres
in America.
346
00:15:50,915 --> 00:15:52,915
So, before we get
to all the bloodshed,
347
00:15:52,917 --> 00:15:55,050
curious when did
this place open?
348
00:15:55,052 --> 00:15:57,653
It opened in 1836,
the week that
349
00:15:57,655 --> 00:15:59,922
the Alamo battle was
going on in Texas.
350
00:15:59,924 --> 00:16:01,056
Okay.
351
00:16:01,058 --> 00:16:04,526
I've got a photo here
from about 1906.
352
00:16:04,528 --> 00:16:06,329
So, obviously
things got bad here,
353
00:16:06,331 --> 00:16:08,063
but when did that start?
354
00:16:08,065 --> 00:16:10,732
Well, Steve, it almost started
from the very beginning.
355
00:16:10,734 --> 00:16:13,269
The conditions were
absolutely horrific,
356
00:16:13,271 --> 00:16:15,537
where you had no heat
in these units,
357
00:16:15,539 --> 00:16:18,341
inmates that complained
about lice,
358
00:16:18,343 --> 00:16:19,809
about putrid food.
359
00:16:19,811 --> 00:16:21,410
I've actually got
a picture here, Steve,
360
00:16:21,412 --> 00:16:24,346
and you can see the
men in their stripes.
361
00:16:24,348 --> 00:16:26,015
Those men are from
punishment hall
362
00:16:26,017 --> 00:16:28,618
and they could be
whipped up to 150 lashes.
363
00:16:28,620 --> 00:16:31,087
It was a very
difficult institution.
364
00:16:31,089 --> 00:16:33,155
Okay,
this place is huge.
365
00:16:33,157 --> 00:16:35,358
I mean, how many prisoners
were here at one time?
366
00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:38,794
Up in the 1930's, there
was upwards of 5,000.
367
00:16:38,796 --> 00:16:42,164
So, this prison was one
of the largest prisons
368
00:16:42,166 --> 00:16:43,632
in the United States.
369
00:16:43,634 --> 00:16:45,300
So Mark, I gotta figure,
with all these prisoners,
370
00:16:45,302 --> 00:16:46,568
the conditions
and everything,
371
00:16:46,570 --> 00:16:47,903
there had to be
some riots, right?
372
00:16:47,905 --> 00:16:49,638
Yes, there were
a number of riots.
373
00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:51,907
The biggest one
was in 1954.
374
00:16:51,909 --> 00:16:55,110
Five offenders were
actually killed
375
00:16:55,112 --> 00:16:57,513
and about 80-some
were injured
376
00:16:57,515 --> 00:16:59,582
and here's all the
burned-out buildings,
377
00:16:59,584 --> 00:17:01,984
so it was really
quite horrific.
378
00:17:01,986 --> 00:17:03,919
How many people died
here over the years?
379
00:17:03,921 --> 00:17:07,056
I think upwards
of 2,000.
380
00:17:07,058 --> 00:17:07,990
2,000?
381
00:17:07,992 --> 00:17:10,459
Yes,
not all from violence.
382
00:17:10,461 --> 00:17:12,929
That's a lot of dead
people in one spot.
383
00:17:12,931 --> 00:17:15,664
So, you said there was
over 5,000 inmates here,
384
00:17:15,666 --> 00:17:17,399
anybody
I might have known of?
385
00:17:17,401 --> 00:17:19,001
Yes.
386
00:17:19,003 --> 00:17:21,404
Probably our most infamous
inmate was James Earl Ray
387
00:17:21,406 --> 00:17:24,340
and there's a photograph
of him.
388
00:17:24,342 --> 00:17:27,075
He escaped from here
in April of 1967,
389
00:17:27,077 --> 00:17:30,413
he killed Dr. King
in April of '68.
390
00:17:30,415 --> 00:17:32,882
Alright, so I know Missouri
has the death penalty.
391
00:17:32,884 --> 00:17:35,083
Was there any executions
right here in this prison?
392
00:17:35,085 --> 00:17:40,822
Yes, there were a total
of 39 by lethal gas
393
00:17:40,824 --> 00:17:44,026
and the very first one
by lethal injection
394
00:17:44,028 --> 00:17:45,961
occurred here in 1989.
395
00:17:45,963 --> 00:17:47,563
Suffice it to say,
396
00:17:47,565 --> 00:17:50,832
47 bloodiest acres
is pretty accurate.
397
00:17:50,834 --> 00:17:52,501
Pretty accurate,
yes, sir.
398
00:17:58,509 --> 00:18:00,242
I am getting like
a lot of screaming
399
00:18:00,244 --> 00:18:04,113
and yelling around here and
it's all of these people.
400
00:18:04,115 --> 00:18:06,782
They seem really
close and it doesn't
401
00:18:06,784 --> 00:18:08,451
feel like that long ago.
402
00:18:08,453 --> 00:18:10,786
There's a great deal of time
403
00:18:10,788 --> 00:18:15,057
where there's all of this chaos
and fighting going on.
404
00:18:17,728 --> 00:18:23,265
But, you know, this is
quite a few years of this
405
00:18:23,267 --> 00:18:26,535
and it seems like
more men than women.
406
00:18:26,537 --> 00:18:28,003
They're bad, bad people.
407
00:18:32,276 --> 00:18:34,609
So far, I've got
a family too freaked out
408
00:18:34,611 --> 00:18:36,479
to live in their own
home on a property
409
00:18:36,481 --> 00:18:40,616
near an abandoned prison
where about 2,000 people died.
410
00:18:40,618 --> 00:18:44,019
But I want to see if
there's anything else.
411
00:18:44,021 --> 00:18:45,287
Searching through old records,
412
00:18:45,289 --> 00:18:47,356
I find a woman
named Violet Ramsey,
413
00:18:47,358 --> 00:18:49,358
who owned property
next to my clients
414
00:18:49,360 --> 00:18:51,159
in the mid-1800's.
415
00:18:51,161 --> 00:18:55,364
Turns out,
she was a freed slave.
416
00:18:55,366 --> 00:18:57,566
You know, it's pretty
unusual for a freed slave
417
00:18:57,568 --> 00:18:59,502
to end up owning
a bunch of land.
418
00:18:59,504 --> 00:19:01,103
So, I called a local historian
419
00:19:01,105 --> 00:19:02,704
and she looked into it for me.
420
00:19:02,706 --> 00:19:05,774
She says Violet Ramsey's
story is amazing
421
00:19:05,776 --> 00:19:07,910
and definitely something
I'm gonna want to know about.
422
00:19:15,453 --> 00:19:17,853
So Dr. Greene, I appreciate
you meeting with me.
423
00:19:17,855 --> 00:19:19,454
This woman I came
across in my research
424
00:19:19,456 --> 00:19:20,456
sounds pretty incredible.
425
00:19:20,458 --> 00:19:22,124
I mean, what can you
tell me about her?
426
00:19:22,126 --> 00:19:25,794
Violet Ramsey was born
in 1796 in Kentucky.
427
00:19:25,796 --> 00:19:28,397
She was brought to Missouri
by her slave holder.
428
00:19:28,399 --> 00:19:31,667
By 1838, she's able to
purchase her freedom.
429
00:19:31,669 --> 00:19:34,003
Six months later, she
buys a house next
430
00:19:34,005 --> 00:19:36,539
to the property that
you're investigating.
431
00:19:36,541 --> 00:19:37,806
Okay.
432
00:19:37,808 --> 00:19:40,342
To be able to do
that was unusual.
433
00:19:40,344 --> 00:19:41,610
What happens next
with her?
434
00:19:41,612 --> 00:19:45,014
For seven years, Violet
works as a laundress
435
00:19:45,016 --> 00:19:48,150
and she is able to,
in 1845,
436
00:19:48,152 --> 00:19:50,886
purchase the freedom
of her husband, Elijah,
437
00:19:50,888 --> 00:19:53,622
and her youngest son,
Josiah.
438
00:19:53,624 --> 00:19:55,891
10 years later, the
three of them are able
439
00:19:55,893 --> 00:19:59,695
to purchase the freedom
of her older son, Harrison.
440
00:19:59,697 --> 00:20:01,163
So now,
they're all together.
441
00:20:01,165 --> 00:20:03,065
Do we know anything
about the husband, Elijah?
442
00:20:03,067 --> 00:20:06,902
Yes, in the 1860 census,
we know that Elijah
443
00:20:06,904 --> 00:20:09,905
was a teamster
and a farmer
444
00:20:09,907 --> 00:20:14,109
and Violet is still listed
as a laundress.
445
00:20:14,111 --> 00:20:15,377
Looking at this, though,
446
00:20:15,379 --> 00:20:18,380
it looks like they had
quite a bit of assets.
447
00:20:18,382 --> 00:20:20,382
Yes, they never
stopped working.
448
00:20:20,384 --> 00:20:23,252
They bought six
additional plots of land
449
00:20:23,254 --> 00:20:25,321
in the neighborhood,
so much so,
450
00:20:25,323 --> 00:20:28,323
that their children were
able to donate 40 acres
451
00:20:28,325 --> 00:20:30,125
of land
to Lincoln University,
452
00:20:30,127 --> 00:20:32,394
where I've taught
for 22 years.
453
00:20:32,396 --> 00:20:34,663
So for a woman
all on her own,
454
00:20:34,665 --> 00:20:36,065
she achieved quite a bit.
455
00:20:36,067 --> 00:20:37,600
Exactly.
456
00:20:37,602 --> 00:20:41,537
To amass the amount of land
and personal property
457
00:20:41,539 --> 00:20:43,606
that she
and her family amassed,
458
00:20:43,608 --> 00:20:46,208
that was, that was
really phenomenal.
459
00:20:53,351 --> 00:20:57,486
So, it feels like
this is where that man
460
00:20:57,488 --> 00:21:01,390
and his son who has
brain damage stay.
461
00:21:03,627 --> 00:21:05,894
Any idea
who the man was?
462
00:21:05,896 --> 00:21:10,633
I think he worked
here at some point.
463
00:21:10,635 --> 00:21:12,901
A caretaker or some ****
464
00:21:12,903 --> 00:21:13,769
Did he live here?
465
00:21:13,771 --> 00:21:15,771
I think he did, yeah.
466
00:21:15,773 --> 00:21:17,906
I think he, like, just took
care of everything,
467
00:21:17,908 --> 00:21:20,709
like the yard, the house.
468
00:21:20,711 --> 00:21:22,378
I think that you would feel sick
469
00:21:22,380 --> 00:21:24,713
in this room if you stayed
in here for a while.
470
00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:29,184
Weird.
471
00:21:34,659 --> 00:21:36,725
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472
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473
00:21:38,262 --> 00:21:40,128
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474
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475
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476
00:21:45,536 --> 00:21:46,569
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477
00:22:00,317 --> 00:22:02,384
Another thing caught
my attention in research.
478
00:22:02,386 --> 00:22:04,452
A former owner of the property
had to go
479
00:22:04,454 --> 00:22:07,255
to the funerals of four
of his own children.
480
00:22:07,257 --> 00:22:09,257
So, I called up
a local genealogist,
481
00:22:09,259 --> 00:22:11,259
who's helped me on another case
482
00:22:11,261 --> 00:22:13,395
and she says losing
the kids was just
483
00:22:13,397 --> 00:22:14,930
the start of this
guy's troubles.
484
00:22:21,205 --> 00:22:22,470
Well, Mary,
it's good to see you again.
485
00:22:22,472 --> 00:22:23,939
I appreciate you helping
me out with this.
486
00:22:23,941 --> 00:22:25,339
So you mentioned
on the phone,
487
00:22:25,341 --> 00:22:27,209
this guy had
a pretty tragic life
488
00:22:27,211 --> 00:22:29,076
with losing four kids.
489
00:22:29,078 --> 00:22:30,211
Before we even get
to that,
490
00:22:30,213 --> 00:22:31,480
do you know anything
about him?
491
00:22:31,482 --> 00:22:32,814
Yes, I have
a picture of him.
492
00:22:32,816 --> 00:22:35,050
His name was
Phillip Thomas Miller.
493
00:22:36,686 --> 00:22:38,954
He was
a store owner originally,
494
00:22:38,956 --> 00:22:43,024
but then he became warden
of the state penitentiary.
495
00:22:43,026 --> 00:22:44,626
You know, Mary, I'm not sure
if you're aware or not,
496
00:22:44,628 --> 00:22:46,427
but my client's
house is right there.
497
00:22:46,429 --> 00:22:48,496
That red-brick
building on the right.
498
00:22:48,498 --> 00:22:50,431
Do we know when he
acquired the property here?
499
00:22:50,433 --> 00:22:54,102
He acquired
the property about 1859
500
00:22:54,104 --> 00:22:57,372
and then he moved his wife
and young family there.
501
00:22:57,374 --> 00:22:59,507
I do have this picture
of her.
502
00:23:03,246 --> 00:23:04,246
You told me on the phone,
503
00:23:04,248 --> 00:23:05,647
he buried four
of his children.
504
00:23:05,649 --> 00:23:06,714
Yes.
505
00:23:06,716 --> 00:23:07,716
Okay, what's the story
with that?
506
00:23:07,718 --> 00:23:09,518
Two of them died
as infants,
507
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,053
then he lost his daughter
Mattie
508
00:23:12,055 --> 00:23:13,855
at age 23 of meningitis.
509
00:23:13,857 --> 00:23:16,158
I have an article
here about that.
510
00:23:18,328 --> 00:23:20,395
So that's three,
what's the four?
511
00:23:20,397 --> 00:23:22,797
His son died
at the age of 41.
512
00:23:22,799 --> 00:23:24,866
Okay,
do we know from what?
513
00:23:24,868 --> 00:23:26,468
We're not exactly sure.
514
00:23:26,470 --> 00:23:27,669
Right, now, you
mentioned on the phone
515
00:23:27,671 --> 00:23:29,403
that after
the kids all died,
516
00:23:29,405 --> 00:23:31,339
that he still had more
troubles, what happened?
517
00:23:31,341 --> 00:23:37,678
Phillip was in debt
to the tune of $644 in 1878.
518
00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:39,681
That's about $16,000
in today's money.
519
00:23:39,683 --> 00:23:40,949
What does he do?
520
00:23:40,951 --> 00:23:44,152
He was forced to sell
his property at a loss.
521
00:23:44,154 --> 00:23:46,221
Does he stay
in the area?
522
00:23:46,223 --> 00:23:49,558
He does, he moves
about 1,000 feet away
523
00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:51,626
into a much smaller place.
524
00:23:51,628 --> 00:23:53,561
Okay, so things went
downhill for this guy.
525
00:23:53,563 --> 00:23:54,495
Yes.
526
00:23:57,568 --> 00:24:01,903
I'm seeing this doctor,
doctor, doctor guy.
527
00:24:01,905 --> 00:24:03,771
Was this guy
actually a doctor?
528
00:24:03,773 --> 00:24:07,909
I was seeing some odd visuals.
529
00:24:07,911 --> 00:24:11,913
Bodies and him being, like,
around these bodies.
530
00:24:14,651 --> 00:24:17,184
So, I was kind of thinking
there's something
531
00:24:17,186 --> 00:24:19,387
with that maybe going on here.
532
00:24:19,389 --> 00:24:21,656
Do you have any idea what
he wants with the living?
533
00:24:21,658 --> 00:24:24,859
When he was alive,
he had a lot of things
534
00:24:24,861 --> 00:24:26,594
that he had to hide.
535
00:24:26,596 --> 00:24:32,200
He wasn't in a particularly
powerful position.
536
00:24:32,202 --> 00:24:37,338
He was always in a very
submissive kind of way
537
00:24:37,340 --> 00:24:40,642
and I think now he feels
like he has a lot of power.
538
00:24:42,746 --> 00:24:45,447
And he can get away with
doing what he wants to do.
539
00:24:46,950 --> 00:24:49,417
So, I think he's enjoying this.
540
00:24:50,887 --> 00:24:53,754
Okay, so now, Miller loses
my client's property.
541
00:24:53,756 --> 00:24:55,290
What happens next?
542
00:24:55,292 --> 00:24:58,727
His daughter Louisa was very
attached to the property.
543
00:25:00,897 --> 00:25:03,899
She spent about six
years scraping together
544
00:25:03,901 --> 00:25:06,501
enough money to buy
the property back.
545
00:25:06,503 --> 00:25:09,304
So in 1884, she did so.
546
00:25:09,306 --> 00:25:11,105
Does she move the old man
back on the property?
547
00:25:11,107 --> 00:25:12,373
Yes, she does.
548
00:25:12,375 --> 00:25:14,642
Okay, so did things get
better for them then?
549
00:25:14,644 --> 00:25:16,444
Not particularly.
550
00:25:16,446 --> 00:25:18,579
The same year she moved
back to the property,
551
00:25:18,581 --> 00:25:20,782
she lost her 12-year-old
daughter, Kelly,
552
00:25:20,784 --> 00:25:23,652
to mysterious
circumstances.
553
00:25:23,654 --> 00:25:25,120
Now what?
554
00:25:25,122 --> 00:25:30,191
In 1894, she lost her
father as well at age 75.
555
00:25:30,193 --> 00:25:31,292
Okay, so then he dies.
556
00:25:31,294 --> 00:25:32,193
Now, does he die
on the property?
557
00:25:32,195 --> 00:25:33,461
Yes.
558
00:25:33,463 --> 00:25:34,729
I mean, this family's
been through a lot.
559
00:25:34,731 --> 00:25:36,464
Does it ever get
better for them?
560
00:25:36,466 --> 00:25:37,598
Not really.
561
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,868
In 1906, Louisa loses
the property again
562
00:25:40,870 --> 00:25:43,071
and has
to move next door.
563
00:25:43,073 --> 00:25:44,539
Whatever happened to her?
564
00:25:44,541 --> 00:25:47,075
Louisa actually lived
to be 80 years old
565
00:25:47,077 --> 00:25:50,278
and she died on the property
next to your clients
566
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:54,482
in 1926
of cerebral hemorrhage.
567
00:25:54,484 --> 00:25:56,684
You know, Mary, it says
here she's a widow.
568
00:25:56,686 --> 00:25:58,019
Do we know anything
about the husband?
569
00:25:58,021 --> 00:26:00,088
All we really know about
him is that he died
570
00:26:00,090 --> 00:26:03,291
a couple years before her
father lost the property.
571
00:26:03,293 --> 00:26:04,759
Well, it's a sad story
to say the least.
572
00:26:04,761 --> 00:26:06,828
I mean, this family
couldn't catch a break.
573
00:26:09,700 --> 00:26:11,966
I'm seeing an old lady,
she's about 80.
574
00:26:14,971 --> 00:26:18,840
She's upset because
her land is gone,
575
00:26:18,842 --> 00:26:20,975
she wants her land back.
576
00:26:25,115 --> 00:26:27,649
And she's just mad at me.
577
00:26:27,651 --> 00:26:29,250
I'm getting that she's a widow
578
00:26:29,252 --> 00:26:32,253
and her husband died
when she was young.
579
00:26:32,255 --> 00:26:34,589
Do you have any
idea when this was?
580
00:26:34,591 --> 00:26:37,993
She would have been born
581
00:26:37,995 --> 00:26:43,531
probably like, in the 18...50's.
582
00:26:43,533 --> 00:26:46,368
She's tough, she went
through a lot of **** man.
583
00:26:48,071 --> 00:26:50,405
So, she thinks like,
that she's cursed
584
00:26:50,407 --> 00:26:52,740
or this place is cursed.
585
00:27:01,684 --> 00:27:04,018
I saw several disturbing
things on my walk,
586
00:27:04,020 --> 00:27:06,020
but one thing stood out.
587
00:27:06,022 --> 00:27:07,622
The guy who seemed
like a doctor,
588
00:27:07,624 --> 00:27:10,758
attacking a living woman,
has me really worried.
589
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:15,196
He had on, like, round glasses.
590
00:27:16,366 --> 00:27:18,165
Deep-set eyes.
591
00:27:18,167 --> 00:27:21,503
He had a long, thin nose.
592
00:27:21,505 --> 00:27:23,972
Maybe it's a little bit shorter.
593
00:27:29,980 --> 00:27:32,246
Amy, is this
who you saw?
594
00:27:32,248 --> 00:27:33,214
Yes.
595
00:27:59,141 --> 00:28:00,607
Now that Amy and I
596
00:28:00,609 --> 00:28:02,743
have completed our
investigations,
597
00:28:02,745 --> 00:28:04,745
we're ready to reveal our
findings to each other
598
00:28:04,747 --> 00:28:07,948
and our clients
for the first time.
599
00:28:07,950 --> 00:28:11,418
So, Amy, this is
a pretty unusual case
600
00:28:11,420 --> 00:28:13,754
because no one lives in this
beautiful house right now.
601
00:28:13,756 --> 00:28:15,822
Things got so bad here
602
00:28:15,824 --> 00:28:18,892
that these guys grabbed
their two kids and left.
603
00:28:18,894 --> 00:28:20,827
Now, this is Erin
and her husband,
604
00:28:20,829 --> 00:28:22,629
who's also named Aaron.
605
00:28:22,631 --> 00:28:26,166
I have a photo of their
two beautiful kids --
606
00:28:26,168 --> 00:28:28,502
their 7-year-old daughter,
Reina,
607
00:28:28,504 --> 00:28:31,105
and this is their
3- year-old, Titus.
608
00:28:31,107 --> 00:28:33,107
Now, these guys are stuck.
609
00:28:33,109 --> 00:28:35,375
Can't afford to let
this place sit empty,
610
00:28:35,377 --> 00:28:39,245
but they don't think it's safe
for anybody else to live here.
611
00:28:39,247 --> 00:28:40,647
So now that Amy knows
a little bit about you guys,
612
00:28:40,649 --> 00:28:42,382
she'll describe her walk for us.
613
00:28:45,588 --> 00:28:48,721
When I got here, it was
just layers and layers
614
00:28:48,723 --> 00:28:51,325
and layers of
residual information.
615
00:28:51,327 --> 00:28:54,261
I saw a lot of
different time periods.
616
00:28:54,263 --> 00:28:56,597
I was hearing a lot of
screaming and yelling.
617
00:28:56,599 --> 00:29:00,267
Seemed like a lot
of these people
618
00:29:00,269 --> 00:29:02,269
didn't really belong here.
619
00:29:02,271 --> 00:29:03,470
I saw fighting.
620
00:29:03,472 --> 00:29:06,940
I just felt an extreme
amount of hate.
621
00:29:06,942 --> 00:29:10,944
I felt like this type
of residual energy
622
00:29:10,946 --> 00:29:16,416
would create feelings of
despair or depression.
623
00:29:16,418 --> 00:29:18,218
Either one of you guys
ever feel that way
624
00:29:18,220 --> 00:29:19,285
while you were living here?
625
00:29:19,287 --> 00:29:22,622
I did.
I would stay in bed for days.
626
00:29:22,624 --> 00:29:25,092
She was going to bed 4:30,
5:00 in the afternoon.
627
00:29:25,094 --> 00:29:26,359
It was crazy, I had
never seen anything
628
00:29:26,361 --> 00:29:28,362
with her
especially like it.
629
00:29:28,364 --> 00:29:30,697
Now, she mentioned violence
630
00:29:30,699 --> 00:29:33,633
and people who didn't seem
like they belonged here.
631
00:29:33,635 --> 00:29:36,169
I thought of the jail
right away, the prison.
632
00:29:36,171 --> 00:29:37,638
Matter of fact, when
you stand in front
633
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,173
of one of your porches, you
could actually see it from here.
634
00:29:40,175 --> 00:29:41,441
So the Missouri
State Penitentiary,
635
00:29:41,443 --> 00:29:42,709
I'm sure you guys
are aware of it,
636
00:29:42,711 --> 00:29:46,647
opened up in 1836,
closed in 2004.
637
00:29:46,649 --> 00:29:48,448
So I actually have
a picture of the prison
638
00:29:48,450 --> 00:29:51,518
at the turn of the century.
639
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,520
I spoke to the prison's
last deputy warden
640
00:29:54,522 --> 00:29:56,856
and he says the place
was trouble from day one.
641
00:29:58,393 --> 00:30:00,394
There were four major riots
that happened at this prison.
642
00:30:00,396 --> 00:30:02,262
The worst one was in 1954.
643
00:30:02,264 --> 00:30:05,265
Left four inmates dead and
millions of dollars worth
644
00:30:05,267 --> 00:30:08,201
of damage to the prison itself.
645
00:30:08,203 --> 00:30:09,403
They burned it.
Yeah.
646
00:30:09,405 --> 00:30:10,803
That's -- Okay, got it.
647
00:30:10,805 --> 00:30:13,874
Now, in the time that
the prison was operating,
648
00:30:13,876 --> 00:30:17,010
over 2,000 prisoners
passed away there.
649
00:30:17,012 --> 00:30:18,946
Wow.
650
00:30:23,485 --> 00:30:26,219
So the first individual
that I came across
651
00:30:26,221 --> 00:30:30,490
is a deceased teenager
about 14 years of age
652
00:30:30,492 --> 00:30:34,962
and I am concerned about him
for many different reasons,
653
00:30:34,964 --> 00:30:38,899
but one is that he
is brain damaged.
654
00:30:38,901 --> 00:30:42,302
He is here with his
father, who I believe
655
00:30:42,304 --> 00:30:46,173
was some kind of caretaker
for the house, the property.
656
00:30:46,175 --> 00:30:49,642
Looking at them, I'm thinking
maybe back to the 1930s.
657
00:30:49,644 --> 00:30:52,112
The man and his son
currently spend
658
00:30:52,114 --> 00:30:55,182
most of their time in the attic.
659
00:30:55,184 --> 00:30:59,519
When he feels like he's
not being paid attention to
660
00:30:59,521 --> 00:31:04,524
or recognized,
he tends to slip out.
661
00:31:04,526 --> 00:31:10,130
Like he'll stomp around,
yelling, throwing things.
662
00:31:10,132 --> 00:31:11,698
Well, I didn't come across
any brain-damaged kids
663
00:31:11,700 --> 00:31:14,734
in research, but you said
he has fits up in the attic,
664
00:31:14,736 --> 00:31:17,403
throwing things.
665
00:31:17,405 --> 00:31:20,540
Every night, I'd hear
what I would describe,
666
00:31:20,542 --> 00:31:22,609
somebody dropping a box
667
00:31:22,611 --> 00:31:24,944
and then getting angry and
kicking it across the room.
668
00:31:24,946 --> 00:31:27,748
It would be over my bed
where the attic is.
669
00:31:27,750 --> 00:31:29,750
Interesting, interesting.
670
00:31:29,752 --> 00:31:34,755
He can become physical
with living people.
671
00:31:34,757 --> 00:31:39,559
I saw him punching a living
person in the stomach
672
00:31:39,561 --> 00:31:41,228
to get their attention.
673
00:31:41,230 --> 00:31:44,698
Now, Aaron, I want you
to talk to Amy about
674
00:31:44,700 --> 00:31:46,166
the kid jumping on your --
675
00:31:46,168 --> 00:31:47,500
what you described as
a kid jumping on your back.
676
00:31:47,502 --> 00:31:49,970
In the basement,
I'd feel heavy
677
00:31:49,972 --> 00:31:53,439
almost as though someone's
jumping on my back.
678
00:31:53,441 --> 00:31:54,640
Once I leave that room,
679
00:31:54,642 --> 00:31:57,644
it was like a weight
lifted off my shoulders.
680
00:32:00,449 --> 00:32:02,516
The next deceased
person I encountered
681
00:32:02,518 --> 00:32:06,720
was an older lady,
who was probably in her 80s.
682
00:32:06,722 --> 00:32:09,389
I think she lived and died here.
683
00:32:09,391 --> 00:32:11,858
I think she died
around the '30s, 1930s.
684
00:32:11,860 --> 00:32:19,333
She experienced and went through
a lot of **** in her life.
685
00:32:19,335 --> 00:32:22,536
Kept referring to her as
the widow, so I'm like, "Okay,
686
00:32:22,538 --> 00:32:25,605
so she probably lost a loved
one, probably her husband."
687
00:32:25,607 --> 00:32:27,807
The thing she was
really worked up about
688
00:32:27,809 --> 00:32:30,410
was the property, the land.
689
00:32:30,412 --> 00:32:34,814
She told me she lost it and
she wants it back really bad.
690
00:32:34,816 --> 00:32:38,618
There was also an indication
of nightmare activity
691
00:32:38,620 --> 00:32:40,620
with her specifically.
692
00:32:40,622 --> 00:32:42,222
Yeah, I had nightmares
all the time.
693
00:32:42,224 --> 00:32:45,358
I had a nightmare
about an old woman
694
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:49,295
who, on a set of stairs
that were curved,
695
00:32:49,297 --> 00:32:50,897
she was in a nightgown
696
00:32:50,899 --> 00:32:53,566
and she killed a baby
on the stairs.
697
00:32:53,568 --> 00:32:56,770
Now, you told me your daughter
has nightmares, right?
698
00:32:56,772 --> 00:32:58,104
Yes.
699
00:32:58,106 --> 00:32:59,306
Can you tell Amy?
700
00:32:59,308 --> 00:33:01,041
My daughter was
sleepwalking a lot.
701
00:33:01,043 --> 00:33:03,843
I guess I would call
like a possession.
702
00:33:03,845 --> 00:33:05,178
Head tilted,
wide-eyed,
703
00:33:05,180 --> 00:33:07,047
and she would walk
and she would talk
704
00:33:07,049 --> 00:33:10,850
and do creepy smiles
and creepy laughs.
705
00:33:10,852 --> 00:33:11,918
This is what kind
of brought them
706
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:13,120
to moving the hell out of here.
707
00:33:13,122 --> 00:33:15,788
Erin, tell Amy what
the final straw was.
708
00:33:15,790 --> 00:33:16,989
Reina was sitting
in the bathtub
709
00:33:16,991 --> 00:33:18,991
and she literally looked
over at me and said,
710
00:33:18,993 --> 00:33:20,126
"Mommy,
what would happen
711
00:33:20,128 --> 00:33:22,595
if I threw my baby
brother out the window?"
712
00:33:22,597 --> 00:33:23,796
And I said, "We don't
joke about that
713
00:33:23,798 --> 00:33:25,132
and we don't talk
about that,"
714
00:33:25,134 --> 00:33:26,466
and then she started crying
a couple minutes later
715
00:33:26,468 --> 00:33:27,868
and she said, "Mommy,
I did not say that.
716
00:33:27,870 --> 00:33:30,270
I would never say that.
My brain told me to say that."
717
00:33:30,272 --> 00:33:32,539
Wow.
718
00:33:32,541 --> 00:33:35,208
I got a pretty good idea
of who you might've seen.
719
00:33:35,210 --> 00:33:38,211
Now, there was a woman
named Louisa Miller.
720
00:33:38,213 --> 00:33:41,815
She was born on the property
next door to here in 1845
721
00:33:41,817 --> 00:33:44,684
and moved on to this
property in 1859.
722
00:33:44,686 --> 00:33:49,088
Now, in 1876, her husband died
suddenly of unknown causes.
723
00:33:49,090 --> 00:33:52,425
So when you mentioned the
widow thing, it made sense.
724
00:33:52,427 --> 00:33:55,362
Two years later, her father
got himself buried in debt
725
00:33:55,364 --> 00:33:58,031
and the family had to sell the
property to cover the bills.
726
00:33:58,033 --> 00:33:59,966
So the genealogist I spoke to
727
00:33:59,968 --> 00:34:01,968
said that Louisa
was really broken up
728
00:34:01,970 --> 00:34:05,037
about losing this property and
she spent the next six years
729
00:34:05,039 --> 00:34:07,507
scraping together
money and in 1884,
730
00:34:07,509 --> 00:34:08,842
she managed to buy it back.
731
00:34:08,844 --> 00:34:10,710
But the good times didn't last.
732
00:34:10,712 --> 00:34:13,045
She got back into debt
and lost the property
733
00:34:13,047 --> 00:34:14,915
a second time in 1906.
734
00:34:14,917 --> 00:34:16,649
She ended up having
to buy a cabin
735
00:34:16,651 --> 00:34:18,451
on the property next door.
736
00:34:18,453 --> 00:34:23,389
She wound up dying of a
cerebral hemorrhage in 1926.
737
00:34:23,391 --> 00:34:25,324
And she was 80 years old.
738
00:34:25,326 --> 00:34:28,728
Now, I was actually able
to get a photo of her.
739
00:34:28,730 --> 00:34:30,063
And this is her when
she was younger.
740
00:34:33,268 --> 00:34:36,870
Could this be the person
influencing Reina?
741
00:34:36,872 --> 00:34:39,105
Yeah, I think so.
742
00:34:40,876 --> 00:34:43,877
And Reina's open
to being influenced
743
00:34:43,879 --> 00:34:45,479
because she's a medium.
744
00:34:48,149 --> 00:34:51,818
I mean, you know,
this makes me sad.
745
00:34:53,622 --> 00:34:55,154
I just feel
for my daughter.
746
00:34:55,156 --> 00:34:57,891
I mean, she said, I don't
want that to happen with her
747
00:34:57,893 --> 00:34:59,426
for the rest of her life.
748
00:34:59,428 --> 00:35:00,560
I mean, as a father,
I can't --
749
00:35:00,562 --> 00:35:01,627
what do I do with that?
750
00:35:01,629 --> 00:35:05,097
You know, it just
drives me crazy.
751
00:35:05,099 --> 00:35:08,434
I'm reaching anxiety,
and my anxiety is like a 14.
752
00:35:13,708 --> 00:35:15,441
So far, you've seen
a lot in this place.
753
00:35:15,443 --> 00:35:16,976
Anything else?
754
00:35:16,978 --> 00:35:19,312
The other deceased person
that I encountered
755
00:35:19,314 --> 00:35:22,182
is a male,
who I really don't like.
756
00:35:22,184 --> 00:35:25,385
I mean, I don't like this guy.
757
00:35:25,387 --> 00:35:28,922
Did not want me here.
758
00:35:28,924 --> 00:35:30,056
****
759
00:35:30,058 --> 00:35:32,592
That was weird.
760
00:35:32,594 --> 00:35:37,196
Like I got a physical push
back on, like, my shoulder.
761
00:35:37,198 --> 00:35:39,665
He was showing me
himself initially
762
00:35:39,667 --> 00:35:41,067
like in his 30s or 40s.
763
00:35:41,069 --> 00:35:43,803
Maybe this is
the widow's husband.
764
00:35:43,805 --> 00:35:45,272
I couldn't be sure.
765
00:35:45,274 --> 00:35:49,075
He's extremely stressed out,
very worried about money
766
00:35:49,077 --> 00:35:51,811
and freaking out about the banks
767
00:35:51,813 --> 00:35:56,149
and the thing that really
stood out to me about him
768
00:35:56,151 --> 00:35:59,619
was that he kept
showing me himself
769
00:35:59,621 --> 00:36:01,888
as, like, some kind of doctor.
770
00:36:01,890 --> 00:36:03,422
Was kind of confused by that
771
00:36:03,424 --> 00:36:08,027
because I kind of saw him
with a lot of dead bodies.
772
00:36:08,029 --> 00:36:10,763
You know, a few things you're
saying are reminding me
773
00:36:10,765 --> 00:36:15,968
not of Louisa Miller's
husband, but of her father.
774
00:36:15,970 --> 00:36:18,038
Now, his name was
Philip Thomas Miller.
775
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,239
So he bought this
property in 1859.
776
00:36:20,241 --> 00:36:22,509
He was 41 at the time
he bought it.
777
00:36:22,511 --> 00:36:24,043
The thing that
caught my attention
778
00:36:24,045 --> 00:36:25,912
was the bodies you mentioned
779
00:36:25,914 --> 00:36:27,447
because Miller was
the warden at the prison
780
00:36:27,449 --> 00:36:30,250
down the street
back in the 1860s.
781
00:36:30,252 --> 00:36:31,784
****
782
00:36:31,786 --> 00:36:34,521
So talking about all the dead
bodies that happened there.
783
00:36:34,523 --> 00:36:36,589
Now, we don't know how
many died under his watch,
784
00:36:36,591 --> 00:36:40,727
but he got into
financial trouble in 1878
785
00:36:40,729 --> 00:36:44,464
and the bank took the
property away from him.
786
00:36:44,466 --> 00:36:48,601
I got a photo of Miller,
but it was later on in life.
787
00:36:48,603 --> 00:36:51,004
Interesting.
788
00:36:51,006 --> 00:36:52,872
So do you think that's who
you saw or you're not sure?
789
00:36:52,874 --> 00:36:55,474
I think so, yeah.
790
00:36:55,476 --> 00:36:57,610
The thing with him is
that he doesn't want
791
00:36:57,612 --> 00:37:00,880
anybody here at all.
792
00:37:00,882 --> 00:37:04,417
He wants living people to
be intimidated and scared.
793
00:37:04,419 --> 00:37:05,952
He's very physical,
794
00:37:05,954 --> 00:37:09,155
so I think you would be
able to see him at times.
795
00:37:09,157 --> 00:37:12,825
So I was thinking like
dark clothes, dark suits.
796
00:37:12,827 --> 00:37:14,427
I was standing in my
daughter's bedroom
797
00:37:14,429 --> 00:37:17,831
and I saw an apparition
of a man with a top hat on
798
00:37:17,833 --> 00:37:21,167
and he had an
old-fashioned black jacket.
799
00:37:21,169 --> 00:37:24,237
That looks a lot
like the guy.
800
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:30,109
I saw him touching men in
unusual ways with women.
801
00:37:30,111 --> 00:37:33,313
What I saw him doing was
attempting to smother them,
802
00:37:33,315 --> 00:37:34,981
getting up in their faces.
803
00:37:34,983 --> 00:37:38,251
What I did see him
doing as well was...
804
00:37:38,253 --> 00:37:39,785
I'm being charged by this thing.
805
00:37:39,787 --> 00:37:41,253
I don't know what
the **** it is.
806
00:37:41,255 --> 00:37:42,988
What are they seeing?
807
00:37:42,990 --> 00:37:46,992
More of like a black ball thing,
but, like, fast.
808
00:37:46,994 --> 00:37:48,728
They're
and it's in their face,
809
00:37:48,730 --> 00:37:51,131
you know, like
freaking them out.
810
00:37:51,133 --> 00:37:53,866
And I did have a sketch
done of what I saw.
811
00:38:03,478 --> 00:38:05,611
My God.
That makes me want to puke.
812
00:38:05,613 --> 00:38:08,481
****
813
00:38:15,691 --> 00:38:18,691
This happened
to me twice.
814
00:38:18,693 --> 00:38:20,359
And this big black ball
815
00:38:20,361 --> 00:38:22,895
or black thing
hovered on top of me
816
00:38:22,897 --> 00:38:24,164
and it was
smothering me.
817
00:38:24,166 --> 00:38:25,765
Like I couldn't move,
I couldn't breathe,
818
00:38:25,767 --> 00:38:28,568
I couldn't scream,
I couldn't cry out.
819
00:38:28,570 --> 00:38:29,836
This sketch
blows my mind.
820
00:38:29,838 --> 00:38:33,173
She painted this picture,
almost like I was there
821
00:38:33,175 --> 00:38:34,574
and then
you had this drawn.
822
00:38:34,576 --> 00:38:35,975
It's just,
it's incredible.
823
00:38:35,977 --> 00:38:40,646
I don't know what to think,
I really don't.
824
00:38:40,648 --> 00:38:41,915
Alright,
so what's the threat?
825
00:38:41,917 --> 00:38:43,582
What if they didn't
call us, what happens?
826
00:38:43,584 --> 00:38:47,053
Honestly, he could more
than likely kill you.
827
00:38:48,657 --> 00:38:53,592
Probably a good thing you
guys left when you did.
828
00:38:53,594 --> 00:38:56,396
It's a lot to take in.
I mean, it really is.
829
00:38:56,398 --> 00:38:57,663
I was nervous that
830
00:38:57,665 --> 00:39:00,533
it was going to be worse
than what we thought
831
00:39:00,535 --> 00:39:01,934
and it is.
832
00:39:22,790 --> 00:39:27,259
Alright, guys, so now we
know what's in this house.
833
00:39:27,261 --> 00:39:31,997
What was attacking you in bed,
what was jumping on you,
834
00:39:31,999 --> 00:39:34,066
and most of all, what
was influencing Reina.
835
00:39:34,068 --> 00:39:36,268
But we still haven't
answered the big question.
836
00:39:36,270 --> 00:39:37,870
Can you make this
house safe enough
837
00:39:37,872 --> 00:39:41,006
for you to sell
to another family?
838
00:39:41,008 --> 00:39:42,941
For that question, I'm
gonna turn it over to Amy.
839
00:39:46,814 --> 00:39:50,282
The first person that
needs to be dealt with
840
00:39:50,284 --> 00:39:52,618
is the "doctor."
841
00:39:52,620 --> 00:39:54,020
The people that need to do this
842
00:39:54,022 --> 00:39:57,489
is a male and a female medium.
843
00:39:57,491 --> 00:39:59,625
They need to be in the age range
844
00:39:59,627 --> 00:40:04,297
of 40 to 50 years of age
in good physical health.
845
00:40:04,299 --> 00:40:08,767
They need to come together as
a team and at the same time,
846
00:40:08,769 --> 00:40:14,573
they need to engage this
deceased male and move him on.
847
00:40:14,575 --> 00:40:17,309
Why so specific about
age and condition?
848
00:40:17,311 --> 00:40:20,646
If we're leaning
towards younger,
849
00:40:20,648 --> 00:40:22,848
he sees that as weakness.
850
00:40:22,850 --> 00:40:24,116
And if we're going older,
851
00:40:24,118 --> 00:40:27,319
he also perceives
that as a weakness.
852
00:40:27,321 --> 00:40:32,391
The second person that needs
to be dealt with is the widow.
853
00:40:32,393 --> 00:40:35,660
The male medium, he
needs to engage with her
854
00:40:35,662 --> 00:40:37,730
and move her on.
855
00:40:37,732 --> 00:40:40,599
I feel like she will
bow down to a male
856
00:40:40,601 --> 00:40:43,101
giving her this directive.
857
00:40:43,103 --> 00:40:49,275
The third is the father
and son in the attic.
858
00:40:49,277 --> 00:40:53,078
This medium needs to be
more of a grandmother,
859
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:57,349
nurturing type of
personality, in her 60s.
860
00:40:57,351 --> 00:40:58,351
Why a motherly type?
861
00:40:58,353 --> 00:40:59,952
Because of the situation
with the kid?
862
00:40:59,954 --> 00:41:05,824
Yes, yes, and he'll be calm
with this kind of personality.
863
00:41:05,826 --> 00:41:08,894
Okay, so what can they do
as far as Reina's abilities?
864
00:41:08,896 --> 00:41:12,698
You need to set up barriers
to keep the random dead away.
865
00:41:12,700 --> 00:41:15,768
She's gonna need
a lot of learning.
866
00:41:15,770 --> 00:41:18,303
When is it okay to
talk to the dead?
867
00:41:18,305 --> 00:41:21,039
So it's a process, really.
868
00:41:21,041 --> 00:41:22,240
Right.
869
00:41:22,242 --> 00:41:26,445
This is a doable fix.
870
00:41:26,447 --> 00:41:29,381
Would you consider
moving back in?
871
00:41:29,383 --> 00:41:31,183
I- I can't do it.
872
00:41:31,185 --> 00:41:32,718
That's understandable,
you know,
873
00:41:32,720 --> 00:41:34,987
why go back into a combat zone
if you don't have to, right?
874
00:41:34,989 --> 00:41:37,656
Yes.
I just can't.
875
00:41:37,658 --> 00:41:39,124
My family's more
important to me.
876
00:41:39,126 --> 00:41:41,260
Right, so are you guys
gonna follow Amy's advice
877
00:41:41,262 --> 00:41:43,728
and do what she says so you
can safely sell this house
878
00:41:43,730 --> 00:41:47,066
to someone else?
Yeah.
879
00:41:47,068 --> 00:41:50,403
100%.
I love having a plan.
880
00:41:50,405 --> 00:41:52,671
I'm just really happy
that we have solutions.
881
00:41:52,673 --> 00:41:57,142
I mean, the questions
I had were answered.
882
00:41:57,144 --> 00:41:58,877
It's going to take
a lot of work,
883
00:41:58,879 --> 00:42:01,213
but if these guys
follow my advice,
884
00:42:01,215 --> 00:42:02,615
they can move on the dead,
885
00:42:02,617 --> 00:42:05,484
making it safe to
sell to someone new.
886
00:42:08,689 --> 00:42:11,690
We have been in
contact with a medium
887
00:42:11,692 --> 00:42:13,158
that actually has
been in the house.
888
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:16,762
And he is in the process
of clearing the home.
889
00:42:16,764 --> 00:42:19,231
Reina and I, we've had a
really good couple of months.
890
00:42:19,233 --> 00:42:21,567
We haven't had anything
in our new house.
891
00:42:21,569 --> 00:42:23,635
In fact, the other day,
she said she's grateful
892
00:42:23,637 --> 00:42:26,372
that she doesn't have anything
scary in her closet anymore.
893
00:42:26,374 --> 00:42:28,573
So anyways, we're really
appreciative of you guys.
894
00:42:28,575 --> 00:42:29,775
Thank you, guys.
895
00:42:29,825 --> 00:42:34,375
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