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I see a dead man and a child.
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Grim reapers for children?
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My children
are being attacked.
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I've seen, like, these hands
come out of the bed.
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They're trying to get us.
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It's chaos out there,
all hell breaking loose.
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Can you imagine the kids
getting pushed like that?
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They're wanting
to take my child.
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Females tend to not
last long here.
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And I just feel...fear.
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My name is Amy Allan.
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This is like
Grand Central Station
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for the dead.
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I see dead people.
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They have pain
that they suffered.
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I speak to dead people.
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She hates them --
hates them.
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And they speak to me.
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But there's only one way to
know if my findings are real.
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It's a demon.
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It's Satan.
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I rely on my partner.
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I'm Steve Di Schiavi.
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I'm a retired New York City
homicide detective.
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What was the body count?
What happened?
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And I know every person,
every house has secrets.
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I don't know if it's
a demon or not,
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but it sure as hell
looks like one.
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It's my job to reveal them.
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I feel like I'm crazy.
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But Steve and I never speak...
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We never communicate
during an investigation.
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...until the very end.
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I want to show
you this.
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...when we uncover if it's safe
for you to stay...
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I just don't want anything to
happen to my mother.
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Or time to get out.
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You have to get out.
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I'm out here
in Blue Springs, Missouri.
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It's about 20 minutes east
of Kansas City.
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I got a call from a young mom
named Amber
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who sounded really desperate.
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She's got a little girl
who's gone through not one,
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but three open-heart surgeries.
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And whatever's in the house
is picking on this poor kid.
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Frankly, it pisses me off.
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With all the medical bills,
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these guys can't even
afford to move.
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I really hope we can
help them out.
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Before Amy arrives,
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I sweep the house
for any leading information.
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Family photographs, artwork,
and religious symbols
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can influence her findings,
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so it's important I cover
or remove them all.
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When I'm done, the location will
be ready for tonight's walk.
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A bad thing happened here,
and it still lingers.
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Fear is the dominant
emotion here.
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Fear, fear, fear.
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I'm hearing, "This is not a safe
place for children,
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whether they be alive or dead,"
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and then I hear,
"Children go missing."
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Amber, when we spoke
on the phone,
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you had desperation
in your voice.
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I mean, what's going
on here?
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It just feels
like pure evil.
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Whatever is here is literally
coming after my family.
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My children
are being attacked.
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Who exactly lives here?
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I do have a picture.
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This is Daniel,
my husband, Baylee,
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Destiny, Jacob,
Makaya, and Kailin.
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How long have you lived
in the house?
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A little
over seven years.
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Okay, now was the activity
this intense right away?
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No, we had little things
here and there,
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but nothing
like it is now.
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What changed?
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Baylee, my youngest, had
her third open-heart surgery,
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and it seemed
around that time
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that things just started getting
worse and worse and worse.
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So, Baylee's heart condition,
what exactly's wrong?
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She has something called
hypoplastic left heart syndrome.
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In layman's terms, it pretty
much means she has half a heart.
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And how's she doing now?
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She's doing really well
physically.
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Mentally,
spiritually, not so well. Okay.
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She's been at my sister's house
for 21/2 weeks.
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She won't sleep here.
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It's hard not having my baby
here with me.
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And so I'm used to,
like, holding her
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and, like,
feeling her heart beat.
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And she's already
overcome so much.
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There's nothing
that we can do.
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That's why
we called you guys.
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Okay, so, give me a list
of what activity
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is going on
in the house.
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Well, things move
on their own... Okay.
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...physical attacks,
mood changes,
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my health is declining.
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What are
we talking about?
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I get extremely dizzy
to where I almost faint.
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My head is
constantly pounding,
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and I have pain back here
on a daily basis.
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It's just literally
a never-ending list.
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I mean, that's issues
for a 70-, 80-year-old woman.
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Right, and I feel like
I am that age.
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Okay.
And I'm 30 years old.
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It's sucking the life
out of me.
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So, I know about Baylee's issues
and your health issues.
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Anybody else
being affected? Daniel definitely.
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Last Thanksgiving,
he suffered from a stroke.
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Stroke?
How old is he?
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He was 33 at the time.
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So, you mentioned your husband's
a vet. What branch? Army.
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Being a vet myself and thinking
about another vet coming home
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after being in combat
and having to deal with this,
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this kind of pisses me
off a little bit.-
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How are you dealing
with it emotionally?
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It's difficult.
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The four oldest kids
all sleep in the same room.
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They don't want to
be alone.
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It's just stressful around here,
so it's hard to be happy.
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So, what do you think
it is?
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I mean, what do you think
it wants from you?
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I think it wants
to hurt Baylee.
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It's overwhelming
in this room, the emotions.
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I feel panic.
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I feel fear in this room,
and I think this is all the,
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you know, living's emotions,
what they're feeling.
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I'm hearing,
"Aneurysm, male, young."
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I'm getting a lot of, like,
turmoil in here,
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a lot of turmoil in here.
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Anxiety, panic attacks,
nightmares, crying,
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being sick a lot,
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like, wanting to run away.
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And I hear a male's voice say,
"Leave this place now."
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Okay, Amber, so what's
going on in the kitchen?
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That stock pot right there
was filled with boiling water
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when Baylee
and I were cooking,
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and we both saw it
moving towards Baylee.
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This pot?
Yeah.
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Well, it's not
a light pot.
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This is kind of sturdy.
Yeah.
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Now, I've seen a pot
when the water gets really
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going and boiling kind
of shake a little bit.-
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Could it have been that?
No.
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It moved diagonally,
like, 4 inches.
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And you're convinced it
was moving towards Baylee?
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It was moving
towards Baylee. Okay.
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Alright,
so, anything else?
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Yeah, Baylee was shoved
in here.
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Okay, so, explain
what happened.
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Baylee was just standing
in a chair
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trying to get something
out of the microwave,
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heard her say,
"Not scared of you,"
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and I see her shoved.
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You sure
she didn't trip?
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There's no way that she could
have went from the chair
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all the way with her head
almost near the dishwasher.
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She thinks that she's
being hurt for a reason.
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She doesn't know why,
but she feels
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like something's
after her.
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There's, like, a smart-ass here,
this guy who's here.
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There's a male here.
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He's just a real smart-ass,
real smart-ass.
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You know, I think, you know,
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he's got a really strong
presence and personality,
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not real cool with women.
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The living might feel agitated.
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I know there's a telepath here.
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I want to say it's this
**** guy.
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This person can get
in your mind,
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like, giving people nightmares.
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He doesn't like women
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and in a way
that he likes to scare them,
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he likes to make them
feel afraid.
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He's very physical --
being forced down,
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being pushed down --
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so females tend
to not last long here.
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Okay, so, what's going on
in here?
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Nightmares.
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You're having nightmares?
Yeah.
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Okay, what kind?
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Things happening
with my family.
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Could it be a side effect
from some of the medication?
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Have you looked into that?
No.
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Nope, doesn't go
with any of that.
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Anybody else having
the dreams you are?
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Yes, Baylee has them
every single night.
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Anything else?
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Sleep paralysis.
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Okay,
so what happens?
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Heavy pressure on my chest,
I can't breathe,
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I can't talk,
I can't move.
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That's pretty scary.
Yeah, it is scary.
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Anything else?
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I wake up with scratches.
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Looks like
an animal attack.
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I mean,
you got pets here?
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Yeah, we do.
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We have two cats
and some bunnies,
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but they're not allowed
in this room.
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'Cause this is no way
to live. Mnh-mnh.
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Now we're here.
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What are you hoping
we can do for you?
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I just want my health
to get better.
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I want my child to come
back home at night
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and not be afraid
to be here.
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I just want peace.
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I just want my home back,
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and I just want them
to get the **** out.
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Alright, so, this dude, he makes
people unhappy generally.
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Yeah, there's too
much activity in the bed.
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He's, like,
shaking somebody around.
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He's pushing somebody around.
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He's getting rough with somebody
in the bed.
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And they know it.
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This is a living,
I believe, woman.
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Waking her up and pushing her
around, you know.
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This is on
a pretty consistent basis,
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whispering nasty stuff
into her ear
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just like,
"You're gonna die,"
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like, wicha-wicha-wicha
"**** you're gonna die."
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So, what does he want
from her?
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For her to leave.
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It seems like he tends
to run females out of here.
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What would happen to her
if she stayed?
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She might go missing.
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That's what he says.
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"She might go missing."
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So, Dan, I spoke with your wife today.
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Sounds like whatever's going on
in this house is pretty dangerous.
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- You agree with that?
- Yeah, I do.
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I don't like my kids
being scared.
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She was talking
about Baylee,
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and you got to be
very concerned about that.
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I'm very concerned.
That's my little buddy. Yeah.
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I want to find out a way
to protect her.
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It's hard, man.
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I think
about it all the time.
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So, have you had
your own experiences?
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Yeah.
What happened?
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Well, my first one was,
I was going down these stairs,
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and I felt like
I got pushed or shoved.
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You boozing at all?
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No.
Now, how did it feel?
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It felt like a one-handed palm
right in the middle of the back.
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Well, this is pretty loose.
Did this cause the fall?
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No, I grabbed it whenever
I was falling down
250
00:12:17,935 --> 00:12:20,468
and kind of pulled it.
251
00:12:20,470 --> 00:12:22,404
So, you fell so hard that you
ripped this out of the --
252
00:12:22,406 --> 00:12:24,073
Yeah, I'm not
a little guy.
253
00:12:24,075 --> 00:12:25,807
Did it ever happen again?
254
00:12:25,809 --> 00:12:29,277
Yeah, it happened about two
years later, the same thing.
255
00:12:29,279 --> 00:12:30,679
It was pretty bad.
256
00:12:30,681 --> 00:12:32,948
I had three discs explode,
257
00:12:32,950 --> 00:12:35,817
and I had to go
in for a surgery.
258
00:12:35,819 --> 00:12:38,287
Can you imagine the kids
getting pushed like that?
259
00:12:38,289 --> 00:12:39,488
No, I can't.
260
00:12:39,490 --> 00:12:42,224
It pisses me off
any time they're scared.
261
00:12:42,226 --> 00:12:43,692
Anything else?
262
00:12:43,694 --> 00:12:48,230
Just go from being in a decent
mood to irritated, angry.
263
00:12:48,232 --> 00:12:50,098
Do you feel that way
when you're not home?
264
00:12:50,100 --> 00:12:51,700
Not near as bad.
265
00:12:51,702 --> 00:12:53,769
Amy may tell you,
you have to leave.
266
00:12:53,771 --> 00:12:55,237
Now, how would you take
that information?
267
00:12:55,239 --> 00:12:57,906
I'd pack my kids up, and we'd
get the hell out of here.
268
00:13:01,579 --> 00:13:04,580
This angry guy won't
stop following me.
269
00:13:04,582 --> 00:13:11,386
This dude is influencing males
to be nasty to the females.
270
00:13:11,388 --> 00:13:14,389
But, I mean, really bad,
you know, like, bad.
271
00:13:17,195 --> 00:13:20,930
I know that men here
are being manipulated.
272
00:13:20,932 --> 00:13:23,199
They become this guy.
273
00:13:23,201 --> 00:13:28,737
I want to say this guy was
living here at some point,
274
00:13:28,739 --> 00:13:33,208
and he's left such a huge part
of his personality,
275
00:13:33,210 --> 00:13:35,677
and they
become that.
276
00:13:37,614 --> 00:13:39,281
After speaking
with Amber and Dan,
277
00:13:39,283 --> 00:13:41,683
I met with their kids
in the living room.
278
00:13:41,685 --> 00:13:43,485
What experiences
have you had?
279
00:13:43,487 --> 00:13:44,753
I saw, like, this, like,
280
00:13:44,755 --> 00:13:46,888
man figure just, like,
staring at me.
281
00:13:46,890 --> 00:13:49,091
Out of nowhere, I got shoved
into the vacuum,
282
00:13:49,093 --> 00:13:52,827
and then I got scratched
on both legs.
283
00:13:52,829 --> 00:13:56,164
That's what it looked like.
284
00:13:56,166 --> 00:13:58,767
All of them are having
bad experiences.
285
00:13:58,769 --> 00:14:03,839
Every once in a while,
I feel...drained.
286
00:14:03,841 --> 00:14:07,976
I was sleeping, and I just
randomly saw little figures
287
00:14:07,978 --> 00:14:10,045
crawling on the ground.
288
00:14:10,047 --> 00:14:11,647
What do you think's going on
in the house?
289
00:14:11,649 --> 00:14:14,049
There's lots
of evil things.
290
00:14:14,051 --> 00:14:15,451
Something bad.
291
00:14:15,453 --> 00:14:17,986
All I know is
they're trying to get us.
292
00:14:17,988 --> 00:14:20,055
And I want to get
out of this house.
293
00:14:23,861 --> 00:14:25,861
I'm seeing three corpses.
294
00:14:28,666 --> 00:14:33,468
One of the corpse dudes says,
"We have been dead a long time."
295
00:14:33,470 --> 00:14:38,073
He says, "We are trying
to find all the kids."
296
00:14:46,016 --> 00:14:48,616
The one guy's saying, "You
know, we collect all children.
297
00:14:48,618 --> 00:14:50,285
That's our duty."
298
00:14:50,287 --> 00:14:51,553
Could people see them?
299
00:14:51,555 --> 00:14:53,822
I think so, yeah.
300
00:14:53,824 --> 00:14:55,424
The men are always present.
301
00:14:55,426 --> 00:14:56,558
They're always here.
302
00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:58,960
They're always watching.
303
00:14:58,962 --> 00:15:01,897
They're saying,
"There's one we want here."
304
00:15:12,910 --> 00:15:15,177
So, Baylee,
I was talking to Mommy,
305
00:15:15,179 --> 00:15:17,245
and she was telling me
you're having a tough time here.
306
00:15:17,247 --> 00:15:19,248
You don't like
what's going on. No.
307
00:15:19,250 --> 00:15:20,449
And I know you had to go
to the doctor
308
00:15:20,451 --> 00:15:23,451
for some things that --
for your chest, right?
309
00:15:23,453 --> 00:15:25,054
You feeling okay now?
310
00:15:25,056 --> 00:15:27,856
So, can you tell me about some
of the things that scare you?
311
00:15:27,858 --> 00:15:30,125
I have bad dreams
every night.
312
00:15:30,127 --> 00:15:31,459
You know what the dreams
are about?
313
00:15:31,461 --> 00:15:34,530
Creepy things that always eat
my family.
314
00:15:34,532 --> 00:15:37,199
But now you're at your
aunt's house and -- Yeah.
315
00:15:37,201 --> 00:15:40,602
And I don't
have any bad dreams. Okay.
316
00:15:40,604 --> 00:15:43,271
Alright, what else
is happening to you?
317
00:15:43,273 --> 00:15:47,943
I've seen, like,
these shadows.
318
00:15:47,945 --> 00:15:49,411
Where do you see them?
319
00:15:49,413 --> 00:15:51,547
I saw them
inside the hallway.
320
00:15:51,549 --> 00:15:52,481
More than one?
321
00:15:52,483 --> 00:15:54,883
Yeah, I saw three.
322
00:15:54,885 --> 00:15:57,353
They sometimes move.
323
00:15:57,355 --> 00:16:01,957
Like, if I blink,
they're in a different spot.
324
00:16:01,959 --> 00:16:03,759
Anything else going on?
325
00:16:03,761 --> 00:16:07,563
I've seen, like, these hands
come out of the bed.
326
00:16:07,565 --> 00:16:10,432
The hands that were from
the bed reached out for me.
327
00:16:10,434 --> 00:16:11,900
Okay.
That's really scary.
328
00:16:11,902 --> 00:16:15,304
That's even scary
for a big guy like me.
329
00:16:15,306 --> 00:16:17,439
So, this is
a pretty cool room.
330
00:16:17,441 --> 00:16:18,840
Do you want
to come back here?
331
00:16:18,842 --> 00:16:19,975
Mnh-mnh.
No?
332
00:16:19,977 --> 00:16:21,243
What if we were able
to get rid
333
00:16:21,245 --> 00:16:23,245
of whatever's here
that's scaring you?
334
00:16:23,247 --> 00:16:25,714
I mean, like, I would still
want to live here,
335
00:16:25,716 --> 00:16:28,217
but then I would have
bad memories.
336
00:16:28,219 --> 00:16:30,385
Yeah, I'm sorry, honey.
337
00:16:30,387 --> 00:16:32,454
Alright, well, we're gonna
try to fix it anyway.
338
00:16:32,456 --> 00:16:34,323
Is that okay?
339
00:16:34,325 --> 00:16:36,058
Okay.
340
00:16:37,261 --> 00:16:41,262
So, these three corpses collect
a bunch of kids over time,
341
00:16:41,264 --> 00:16:43,732
so I'm asking, like, you know,
"Where did you come from?"
342
00:16:43,734 --> 00:16:44,867
The one guy's saying,
"You know, it really
343
00:16:44,869 --> 00:16:46,201
doesn't matter who sent us.
344
00:16:46,203 --> 00:16:50,138
We got a job to do.
It's not personal."
345
00:16:50,140 --> 00:16:53,408
They're saying they're here
for a child because it's sick.
346
00:16:53,410 --> 00:16:55,076
The kid's sick.
347
00:16:55,078 --> 00:16:58,347
I kind of think it's
a little girl.
348
00:16:58,349 --> 00:17:00,415
Do you know where
they want to take her?
349
00:17:00,417 --> 00:17:03,018
A better place.
350
00:17:03,020 --> 00:17:05,487
I mean,
they're not Death itself.
351
00:17:05,489 --> 00:17:07,790
They're just sent by Death.
352
00:17:09,893 --> 00:17:11,893
They're grim reapers
for children.
353
00:17:31,713 --> 00:17:33,980
Amber's convinced
the scratches on her body
354
00:17:33,982 --> 00:17:37,451
came from something paranormal,
but I'm not so sure about that.
355
00:17:37,453 --> 00:17:38,785
So I'm heading back there
to meet
356
00:17:38,787 --> 00:17:40,654
with some pest-control expert
357
00:17:40,656 --> 00:17:42,856
to see if maybe some
sort of animal could be
358
00:17:42,858 --> 00:17:45,058
leaving those marks
on Amber and her kids.
359
00:17:50,599 --> 00:17:51,798
Hey, Mike.
How you doing?
360
00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:53,333
Thanks for coming out,
appreciate it.
361
00:17:53,335 --> 00:17:55,002
The reason I called you,
I got a family of seven
362
00:17:55,004 --> 00:17:56,469
that live here.
Yeah.
363
00:17:56,471 --> 00:17:57,804
They're complaining
about hearing some really
364
00:17:57,806 --> 00:18:00,139
strange noises and attacks
365
00:18:00,141 --> 00:18:01,942
on them that look
like scratch marks.
366
00:18:01,944 --> 00:18:04,211
Can that come
from an infestation?
367
00:18:04,213 --> 00:18:05,679
That can happen.
368
00:18:05,681 --> 00:18:07,614
So, what I want to do is make
sure that there's nothing
369
00:18:07,616 --> 00:18:10,016
in the house
that could cause that. Okay.
370
00:18:10,018 --> 00:18:11,218
Give the house a once-over,
371
00:18:11,220 --> 00:18:13,286
do the inspection,
and then get back to me. Sure.
372
00:18:13,288 --> 00:18:14,354
Alrighty?
Yep.
373
00:18:14,356 --> 00:18:15,288
Alright, cool.
Thanks, buddy.
374
00:18:15,290 --> 00:18:16,323
Thank you.
Appreciate it.
375
00:18:18,693 --> 00:18:21,195
I never know what Amy's gonna
find during her walk.
376
00:18:22,697 --> 00:18:24,097
But when you work a homicide,
377
00:18:24,099 --> 00:18:26,699
you have to rule out
the obvious first,
378
00:18:26,701 --> 00:18:28,402
and that's exactly
what I'm doing here.
379
00:18:30,372 --> 00:18:32,105
So, if there are rodents
in the house,
380
00:18:32,107 --> 00:18:35,041
it could explain what Amber and
her family are going through.
381
00:18:35,043 --> 00:18:36,376
We'd exterminate those suckers,
382
00:18:36,378 --> 00:18:38,245
and everyone
would be good to go.
383
00:18:40,916 --> 00:18:42,315
How'd it go?
384
00:18:42,317 --> 00:18:44,817
Well, I mean, a few bird nests
on the outside of the house,
385
00:18:44,819 --> 00:18:47,988
a couple flies on the inside,
no rodent droppings whatsoever.
386
00:18:47,990 --> 00:18:50,723
Okay, so there's nothing
in there that could cause
387
00:18:50,725 --> 00:18:54,460
any kind of injuries
to the people living here? No.
388
00:18:54,462 --> 00:18:58,065
Alright, so I know it's
nothing to do
389
00:18:58,067 --> 00:18:59,933
with something
you might have found... No.
390
00:18:59,935 --> 00:19:01,334
...which means
I got another problem. Yeah.
391
00:19:01,336 --> 00:19:02,870
Okay.
392
00:19:07,609 --> 00:19:09,275
I don't like this.
393
00:19:09,277 --> 00:19:13,346
I feel somebody being physically
assaulted in this room,
394
00:19:13,348 --> 00:19:18,085
being forced down, maybe pushed
down, being held down.
395
00:19:20,689 --> 00:19:22,822
I'm thinking it's the dead male.
396
00:19:22,824 --> 00:19:26,960
He's very physical,
especially with women.
397
00:19:26,962 --> 00:19:30,964
I just don't think women...
398
00:19:30,966 --> 00:19:32,498
do well here.
399
00:19:32,500 --> 00:19:35,301
I think they're just ****
tortured and played with.
400
00:19:38,073 --> 00:19:39,973
So, I just got a call
from the local sheriff.
401
00:19:39,975 --> 00:19:42,842
He was doing some research on
Amber and Daniel's land for me,
402
00:19:42,844 --> 00:19:44,444
and he hit the mother lode.
403
00:19:44,446 --> 00:19:46,579
Turns out another couple
who owned the property
404
00:19:46,581 --> 00:19:48,515
never made it out
of there alive.
405
00:19:54,856 --> 00:19:57,323
Well, Sheriff, I appreciate
you coming out to meet me.
406
00:19:57,325 --> 00:19:59,058
Before we get
to the murder-suicide,
407
00:19:59,060 --> 00:20:01,261
what do you know
about these people?
408
00:20:01,263 --> 00:20:04,263
Lois Bowlie purchased
the property in 1959.
409
00:20:04,265 --> 00:20:06,599
She was a successful
real estate professional.
410
00:20:06,601 --> 00:20:10,670
It was soon thereafter
she married Louis David Cramer.
411
00:20:10,672 --> 00:20:12,272
He owned a local
construction company.
412
00:20:12,274 --> 00:20:14,942
Okay, so, now, was this their
first marriage to each other?
413
00:20:14,944 --> 00:20:17,677
No, this is the fourth marriage
for both of them.
414
00:20:17,679 --> 00:20:19,880
They were both married
four times? Yes, four times.
415
00:20:19,882 --> 00:20:21,281
They were
both married four times.
416
00:20:21,283 --> 00:20:24,351
Okay, so that's their
first mistake right there.
417
00:20:24,353 --> 00:20:25,685
What else do you know
about Lois?
418
00:20:25,687 --> 00:20:28,155
She was a quiet woman,
involved in the local church.
419
00:20:28,157 --> 00:20:29,423
What about the husband?
420
00:20:29,425 --> 00:20:31,024
You find anything else
about him?
421
00:20:31,026 --> 00:20:33,159
Yes, he was a good-looking guy,
liked to drink a lot,
422
00:20:33,161 --> 00:20:37,431
and he was a womanizer,
according to the family.
423
00:20:37,433 --> 00:20:39,566
Alright, he was
a good-looking guy.
424
00:20:39,568 --> 00:20:41,701
Basically, we got
a drinking womanizer
425
00:20:41,703 --> 00:20:43,103
marrying a churchgoing woman.
426
00:20:43,105 --> 00:20:44,972
Yes, opposites.
427
00:20:46,708 --> 00:20:49,776
This angry dead guy
has a really bad temper.
428
00:20:49,778 --> 00:20:52,179
Have you been able to get
anything on who he was in life?
429
00:20:52,181 --> 00:20:54,847
You know,
he might drink too much,
430
00:20:54,849 --> 00:20:56,783
might do drugs occasionally.
431
00:20:56,785 --> 00:20:58,719
You know, "I'm gonna drink,
and I'm gonna ****
432
00:20:58,721 --> 00:20:59,952
smack you upside the head,
433
00:20:59,954 --> 00:21:01,654
and you're going
to shut the ****."
434
00:21:01,656 --> 00:21:04,391
He's kind of always
in a state of agitation.
435
00:21:04,393 --> 00:21:07,193
"It's my way or the highway"
kind of dude.
436
00:21:07,195 --> 00:21:11,397
You know, hot to temper,
short fuse,
437
00:21:11,399 --> 00:21:13,934
kind of a fighting kind of guy.
438
00:21:17,006 --> 00:21:19,138
That's this guy's deal.
439
00:21:19,140 --> 00:21:21,407
That's this guy's personality.
440
00:21:24,479 --> 00:21:26,879
Okay, so obviously, this doesn't
end well for either one of them,
441
00:21:26,881 --> 00:21:29,282
so take me to that day
and what happened.
442
00:21:29,284 --> 00:21:31,151
On March 2, 1962,
443
00:21:31,153 --> 00:21:34,020
one of Lois' employees shows up
at the house.
444
00:21:34,022 --> 00:21:35,755
Okay.
So she walks in,
445
00:21:35,757 --> 00:21:40,427
and she finds Louis David Cramer
dead in the hallway.
446
00:21:40,429 --> 00:21:43,029
He was suffering from three
gunshot wounds to the chest.
447
00:21:43,031 --> 00:21:45,899
Now what?
The worker goes into the bedroom and finds Lois
448
00:21:45,901 --> 00:21:47,467
in the bed
with a single gunshot wound
449
00:21:47,469 --> 00:21:50,637
to the head with a handgun
still in her grips.
450
00:21:50,639 --> 00:21:52,905
So, the police believed
she killed him?
451
00:21:52,907 --> 00:21:53,974
Yes.
452
00:21:53,976 --> 00:21:55,842
Then went into the bedroom
and shot herself?
453
00:21:55,844 --> 00:21:59,712
Yes. I have the death
certificates here.
454
00:21:59,714 --> 00:22:02,182
This just come out of the blue?
I mean, what happened?
455
00:22:02,184 --> 00:22:04,050
Not really.
She had filed for divorce twice
456
00:22:04,052 --> 00:22:06,719
during their short marriage,
but she withdrew both times.
457
00:22:06,721 --> 00:22:09,656
So obviously, these guys had
a very troubled marriage
458
00:22:09,658 --> 00:22:11,658
in a very short period
of time.
459
00:22:11,660 --> 00:22:13,126
Any idea what
those troubles were?
460
00:22:13,128 --> 00:22:14,727
According to the relatives,
it's possible
461
00:22:14,729 --> 00:22:18,265
that he could have been
physically abusive to Lois also.
462
00:22:18,267 --> 00:22:19,933
Okay.
463
00:22:23,072 --> 00:22:26,072
I'm overhearing a female
and a male fighting.
464
00:22:26,074 --> 00:22:28,741
"I'm gonna leave you
and this **** house."
465
00:22:28,743 --> 00:22:32,679
There's somebody getting hit
in the stomach here.
466
00:22:32,681 --> 00:22:34,014
Somebody's getting hit.
467
00:22:36,551 --> 00:22:40,554
Also, I'm getting head pain --
like, severe.
468
00:22:40,556 --> 00:22:42,088
This is a female.
469
00:22:42,090 --> 00:22:45,892
This isn't a headache.
This is...
470
00:22:45,894 --> 00:22:48,761
This is trauma to the head.
471
00:22:48,763 --> 00:22:51,031
**** man.
472
00:22:57,039 --> 00:22:59,039
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473
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474
00:23:00,509 --> 00:23:02,309
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475
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476
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477
00:23:07,649 --> 00:23:08,648
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478
00:23:22,563 --> 00:23:25,363
So far, I've got a family
being physically assaulted
479
00:23:25,365 --> 00:23:27,499
by God knows what
on a property
480
00:23:27,501 --> 00:23:30,568
where a brutal murder-suicide
took place.
481
00:23:30,570 --> 00:23:32,304
But I want to see
if there's anything else.
482
00:23:34,642 --> 00:23:37,442
Combing through old records,
I find a cyclone that ripped
483
00:23:37,444 --> 00:23:40,979
through Amber and Dan's property
in the late 1800s.
484
00:23:40,981 --> 00:23:42,313
The damage was so bad,
485
00:23:42,315 --> 00:23:44,716
it devastated the family
who lived on the land.
486
00:23:46,653 --> 00:23:48,253
Well, I managed to track
down a local descendant
487
00:23:48,255 --> 00:23:50,722
of this poor family that was
wiped out by that storm.
488
00:23:50,724 --> 00:23:53,458
I'm heading over to her house
now, and she says the cyclone
489
00:23:53,460 --> 00:23:56,194
was fast, unexpected,
and deadly.
490
00:24:02,802 --> 00:24:04,870
So, Diane, I appreciate you
taking the time to meet with me.
491
00:24:04,872 --> 00:24:06,338
Thank you.
492
00:24:06,340 --> 00:24:08,473
I know the cyclone hit
in 1879.
493
00:24:08,475 --> 00:24:10,342
Now, who was living
on the property then?
494
00:24:10,344 --> 00:24:13,945
Marion Harris and his wife,
Phoebe, and their four children.
495
00:24:13,947 --> 00:24:15,680
Can you take me through
what happened that day?
496
00:24:15,682 --> 00:24:19,083
Well, it was
May 30, 1879,
497
00:24:19,085 --> 00:24:23,688
and the cyclone hit
about 7:00 p.m.
498
00:24:23,690 --> 00:24:26,091
So, this is 1879.
499
00:24:26,093 --> 00:24:28,793
There was no warning
systems that... No.
500
00:24:28,795 --> 00:24:29,828
...anybody would know of,
right,
501
00:24:29,830 --> 00:24:31,363
so how'd they know
it was coming?
502
00:24:31,365 --> 00:24:32,764
Just when they hear it.
503
00:24:32,766 --> 00:24:35,099
It's supposed to sound
like a freight train.
504
00:24:35,101 --> 00:24:37,101
Okay, so I know this thing
was deadly.
505
00:24:37,103 --> 00:24:38,437
What happened?
506
00:24:38,439 --> 00:24:40,839
Phoebe grabbed the 8-year-old
daughter, Lilly,
507
00:24:40,841 --> 00:24:44,710
and the cyclone
threw them 200 yards,
508
00:24:44,712 --> 00:24:46,845
and they died instantly.
509
00:24:46,847 --> 00:24:48,647
Marion had grabbed
the baby.
510
00:24:48,649 --> 00:24:50,047
Ernest was 8 months old.
511
00:24:50,049 --> 00:24:52,383
They were thrown 150 yards,
512
00:24:52,385 --> 00:24:54,385
and they lived just
a short time.
513
00:24:54,387 --> 00:24:56,788
They died
within a few weeks.
514
00:24:59,793 --> 00:25:01,526
I know you said
they had four kids.
515
00:25:01,528 --> 00:25:02,994
What happened
to the other two?
516
00:25:02,996 --> 00:25:04,595
The other two lived.
517
00:25:04,597 --> 00:25:08,199
The boy was thrown
into a hayrick. He survived.
518
00:25:08,201 --> 00:25:11,870
And the girl survived,
but we don't know how.
519
00:25:11,872 --> 00:25:14,005
Now, Diane, you lived here
your whole life, right? Yes.
520
00:25:14,007 --> 00:25:16,541
So, how often have you seen
or heard
521
00:25:16,543 --> 00:25:18,810
about these tornadoes
being that big?
522
00:25:18,812 --> 00:25:21,279
I've only heard of two
in my lifetime.
523
00:25:21,281 --> 00:25:23,948
You can't run fast enough
to get shelter.
524
00:25:27,287 --> 00:25:33,825
It's really loud,
so much going on outside.
525
00:25:33,827 --> 00:25:36,695
It's like **** ruckus, man.
526
00:25:36,697 --> 00:25:38,163
It's chaos out there.
527
00:25:38,165 --> 00:25:40,298
There's, like, men yelling
and, you know,
528
00:25:40,300 --> 00:25:42,400
all hell breaking loose.
529
00:25:45,238 --> 00:25:48,840
I see a dead man
and a child fall.
530
00:25:48,842 --> 00:25:51,776
The man has this baby
or this child, like,
531
00:25:51,778 --> 00:25:53,511
wrapped in his arms.
532
00:25:53,513 --> 00:25:58,316
Then I'm seeing this little
girl, long, straight hair --
533
00:25:58,318 --> 00:26:00,719
getting a pain
right side of my head.
534
00:26:00,721 --> 00:26:02,921
Man, that's, like, a hammer.
535
00:26:02,923 --> 00:26:05,590
This is a male being hit.
536
00:26:07,327 --> 00:26:09,594
Lord.
537
00:26:09,596 --> 00:26:13,665
Yeah, he got hit in the back
of the head pretty damn hard.
538
00:26:17,737 --> 00:26:19,804
I think he was caught off guard.
539
00:26:29,016 --> 00:26:31,950
I saw several horrifying things
during my walk,
540
00:26:31,952 --> 00:26:34,553
but one really stood out.
541
00:26:34,555 --> 00:26:37,622
It involved three males...
542
00:26:37,624 --> 00:26:39,724
...in a bedroom.
543
00:26:39,726 --> 00:26:44,429
Two of the males are standing
to the left side of the bed.
544
00:26:44,431 --> 00:26:47,232
Both of their heads
were decomposing.
545
00:26:49,703 --> 00:26:53,705
The other guy, he had a lot
of blood all on him,
546
00:26:53,707 --> 00:26:57,241
like blood and gore, really,
no bottom lip here.
547
00:26:57,243 --> 00:27:00,645
His nose definitely
was out a bit more. Okay.
548
00:27:04,918 --> 00:27:08,186
Amy, is this what
you saw?
549
00:27:08,188 --> 00:27:09,320
Yes.
550
00:27:35,413 --> 00:27:38,348
Now that Amy and I have
completed our investigations,
551
00:27:38,350 --> 00:27:40,617
we're ready to reveal
our findings to each other
552
00:27:40,619 --> 00:27:43,352
and our clients
for the first time.
553
00:27:43,354 --> 00:27:47,223
So, Amy, I want you to meet
Amber and her husband Dan.
554
00:27:47,225 --> 00:27:51,027
Now, they're raising a blended
family of five kids here.
555
00:27:51,029 --> 00:27:52,762
Here's a picture
of everyone.
556
00:27:56,034 --> 00:28:00,903
Everyone is scared, and we
are literally their last hope.
557
00:28:00,905 --> 00:28:03,373
So, now that Amy knows
who you guys are,
558
00:28:03,375 --> 00:28:05,508
I'll ask her to describe
her walk for us.
559
00:28:08,579 --> 00:28:11,514
During my walk,
I went to the backyard,
560
00:28:11,516 --> 00:28:13,716
and it's, like,
insane back there.
561
00:28:13,718 --> 00:28:18,121
And whatever was going on
was really stressful and crazy.
562
00:28:18,123 --> 00:28:20,990
I could hear people yelling
and freaking out.
563
00:28:20,992 --> 00:28:24,794
There was a dead man
holding a little baby.
564
00:28:24,796 --> 00:28:27,530
All of this residual,
it's causing a lot of stress
565
00:28:27,532 --> 00:28:31,200
and anxiety
for people who live here.
566
00:28:31,202 --> 00:28:32,802
This might be a shot
in the dark,
567
00:28:32,804 --> 00:28:35,805
but you saw people freaking out
and a dead man holding a child.
568
00:28:35,807 --> 00:28:37,540
During my research,
I came across a cyclone
569
00:28:37,542 --> 00:28:39,809
that hit this place in 1879.
570
00:28:39,811 --> 00:28:42,011
Now, this thing was about
100 yards wide.
571
00:28:42,013 --> 00:28:44,213
It came through the area
without warning.
572
00:28:44,215 --> 00:28:46,949
So, a family of six lived
on your land back then.
573
00:28:46,951 --> 00:28:49,952
So, the Dad picked up the baby
and tried to run.
574
00:28:49,954 --> 00:28:54,023
The winds tossed them 150 yards,
so the father and son died,
575
00:28:54,025 --> 00:28:55,892
and then Mom tried
to run to safety
576
00:28:55,894 --> 00:28:57,627
with an 8-year-old daughter,
577
00:28:57,629 --> 00:29:01,030
and they were thrown 200 yards
and killed instantly.
578
00:29:01,032 --> 00:29:03,499
Holy ****!
579
00:29:03,501 --> 00:29:07,236
Miraculously, two of their
other kids survived somehow.
580
00:29:07,238 --> 00:29:09,239
Damn, cyclone!
581
00:29:12,177 --> 00:29:14,109
So, what else?
582
00:29:14,111 --> 00:29:19,448
When I went into the house,
I got a lot of turmoil.
583
00:29:19,450 --> 00:29:22,518
The emotions in this
particular room
584
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,187
were absolutely overwhelming.
585
00:29:25,189 --> 00:29:30,259
I got lots of crying, illness,
vomiting, panic attacks,
586
00:29:30,261 --> 00:29:33,263
people being sick a lot.
587
00:29:33,265 --> 00:29:34,397
Tell her about your illnesses.
588
00:29:34,399 --> 00:29:37,466
I get pains in the back
of my head.
589
00:29:37,468 --> 00:29:41,337
I get bad stabbing pain.
590
00:29:41,339 --> 00:29:42,605
It's nonstop.
591
00:29:42,607 --> 00:29:47,009
Like, I feel like
I'm 70 years old, and I'm 30.
592
00:29:47,011 --> 00:29:49,979
Now, you see Dan looks like
a pretty healthy guy, right?
593
00:29:49,981 --> 00:29:51,080
Yeah.
594
00:29:51,082 --> 00:29:53,215
Yeah, tell her about
what happened to you.
595
00:29:53,217 --> 00:29:57,420
Last Thanksgiving,
I had a ministroke.
596
00:29:57,422 --> 00:29:58,755
He what?
What are you, 33?
597
00:29:58,757 --> 00:30:00,223
34.
34 years old.
598
00:30:00,225 --> 00:30:01,824
And it was
in the house?
599
00:30:01,826 --> 00:30:03,626
Yeah.
Man.
600
00:30:07,699 --> 00:30:10,633
So, the next person
I meet is a male.
601
00:30:10,635 --> 00:30:12,168
I don't like him.
602
00:30:12,170 --> 00:30:18,441
He is psychologically bothering
you guys, but also physically.
603
00:30:18,443 --> 00:30:21,844
I'm gonna start off
with the psychological torture
604
00:30:21,846 --> 00:30:23,112
that he's doing.
605
00:30:23,114 --> 00:30:25,148
First off,
he's a telepath...
606
00:30:27,385 --> 00:30:30,386
...which means he can
control and influence
607
00:30:30,388 --> 00:30:34,924
the way living people
think and feel.
608
00:30:34,926 --> 00:30:38,060
And the problem with that
is that this guy
609
00:30:38,062 --> 00:30:42,865
is a smart-ass
and a misogynistic jerk.
610
00:30:42,867 --> 00:30:49,272
So an individual can start
acting completely different
611
00:30:49,274 --> 00:30:52,474
from the way
that they've always been.
612
00:30:52,476 --> 00:30:54,010
He can manipulate moods.
613
00:30:54,012 --> 00:30:57,547
He can make people unhappy,
and his focus is on males.
614
00:30:57,549 --> 00:31:04,820
He likes to get men to act
like he does against females.
615
00:31:04,822 --> 00:31:07,823
I get home from work in a good
mood, come in the door,
616
00:31:07,825 --> 00:31:11,961
and it's just like,
just get irritated,
617
00:31:11,963 --> 00:31:16,365
pissed off,
just want to be by myself.
618
00:31:16,367 --> 00:31:17,767
We're close,
and we love each other,
619
00:31:17,769 --> 00:31:23,439
but we can be at each other's
throats for no reason at all.
620
00:31:23,441 --> 00:31:25,708
The other thing he showed me
was him manipulating people
621
00:31:25,710 --> 00:31:29,445
while they're sleeping,
causing nightmares.
622
00:31:29,447 --> 00:31:34,851
I have nightmares of, like,
my family getting hurt somehow.
623
00:31:34,853 --> 00:31:40,056
My daughter, she has them
every single night.
624
00:31:40,058 --> 00:31:41,524
Which one is this?
625
00:31:41,526 --> 00:31:43,993
Baylee, the youngest.
626
00:31:43,995 --> 00:31:45,528
Yeah.
627
00:31:45,530 --> 00:31:50,933
She woke up, and a black hand
was over her stomach squeezing.
628
00:31:50,935 --> 00:31:55,204
She cried all morning
'cause she said it felt so real.
629
00:31:55,206 --> 00:31:57,606
This is not good.
630
00:31:57,608 --> 00:32:01,811
They're so bad that she's not
even staying at the house.
631
00:32:01,813 --> 00:32:04,681
She hasn't
for three weeks.
632
00:32:04,683 --> 00:32:09,552
So, getting into, like,
the physical aspect of this guy,
633
00:32:09,554 --> 00:32:15,291
what I saw was him picturing
a female falling
634
00:32:15,293 --> 00:32:17,159
down the stairs,
635
00:32:17,161 --> 00:32:21,897
and because of that,
that woman actually does it.
636
00:32:21,899 --> 00:32:25,034
So now, it didn't happen
to Amber,
637
00:32:25,036 --> 00:32:28,637
but Dan got pushed down
the staircase twice.
638
00:32:28,639 --> 00:32:29,972
You did?
Yeah.
639
00:32:29,974 --> 00:32:31,240
Really?
640
00:32:31,242 --> 00:32:33,709
The second time, I ended up
blowing out three discs,
641
00:32:33,711 --> 00:32:36,779
and I had to go in
for surgery.
642
00:32:36,781 --> 00:32:38,647
That's interesting.
643
00:32:38,649 --> 00:32:41,584
Now, a female was pushed.
644
00:32:41,586 --> 00:32:44,387
Tell her what happened
to Baylee in the kitchen.
645
00:32:44,389 --> 00:32:47,390
Baylee was standing
on a chair.-
646
00:32:47,392 --> 00:32:52,327
And she heard something say,
"I'm gonna get you,"
647
00:32:52,329 --> 00:32:53,796
and she said,
"I'm not scared,"
648
00:32:53,798 --> 00:32:56,665
and she went flying
across the kitchen.
649
00:32:56,667 --> 00:33:02,438
He likes to have females
feel fear.
650
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:03,739
Little girls, too?
651
00:33:03,741 --> 00:33:06,742
It doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter.
652
00:33:06,744 --> 00:33:10,546
He also likes to spend time
in the master bedroom.
653
00:33:10,548 --> 00:33:12,681
So, I'm back there,
and I'm looking at the bed,
654
00:33:12,683 --> 00:33:17,887
and I'm seeing this guy, like,
attacking the living woman.
655
00:33:17,889 --> 00:33:20,089
He's, like,
shaking somebody around.
656
00:33:20,091 --> 00:33:23,025
He's pushing somebody around.
657
00:33:23,027 --> 00:33:25,227
He's getting rough
with somebody in the bed.
658
00:33:30,902 --> 00:33:32,702
Well, you were scratched
in bed.
659
00:33:33,771 --> 00:33:36,105
I woke up with a bunch
of scratches.
660
00:33:36,107 --> 00:33:38,107
Take a look at some
of these scratches.
661
00:33:40,845 --> 00:33:42,178
So, as far
as the scratches go,
662
00:33:42,180 --> 00:33:43,913
I brought in a pest-control
expert to see
663
00:33:43,915 --> 00:33:45,581
if there was something else
that might have caused it,
664
00:33:45,583 --> 00:33:47,316
but he found nothing.
665
00:33:47,318 --> 00:33:50,052
Any idea who this guy might
have been when he was alive?
666
00:33:50,054 --> 00:33:51,654
Honestly, I didn't get
much on him,
667
00:33:51,656 --> 00:33:56,992
but he was on the thinner side,
thick, short brown hair,
668
00:33:56,994 --> 00:34:00,395
definitely into drugs
and drinking, bad temper,
669
00:34:00,397 --> 00:34:02,431
especially with women,
violent,
670
00:34:02,433 --> 00:34:04,734
especially when
he'd drink alcohol.
671
00:34:04,736 --> 00:34:07,070
Couldn't really tell
if he died here,
672
00:34:07,072 --> 00:34:10,406
but I felt like he had
at some point lived here.
673
00:34:10,408 --> 00:34:14,944
So a womanizer, drinker,
used to live on this property...
674
00:34:14,946 --> 00:34:16,945
I might know
who you're talking about.
675
00:34:16,947 --> 00:34:19,682
This guy's name
was Louis David Cramer.
676
00:34:19,684 --> 00:34:23,019
In 1959, he married
the owner of this property,
677
00:34:23,021 --> 00:34:24,687
and her name was Lois Bowlie.
678
00:34:24,689 --> 00:34:26,088
So, I spoke
to the local sheriff,
679
00:34:26,090 --> 00:34:29,291
and he told me
Cramer was as Amy described.
680
00:34:29,293 --> 00:34:31,160
He was a womanizer,
he was a drinker,
681
00:34:31,162 --> 00:34:33,028
and according to relatives,
682
00:34:33,030 --> 00:34:35,565
he was physically
abusive to women.
683
00:34:35,567 --> 00:34:37,433
Nobody knows exactly
what happened,
684
00:34:37,435 --> 00:34:41,170
but on March 2, 1962,
685
00:34:41,172 --> 00:34:44,240
the two had a violent argument,
Lois grabbed a gun,
686
00:34:44,242 --> 00:34:47,710
shot him in the chest
three times, killing him.
687
00:34:47,712 --> 00:34:50,246
She went into the bedroom,
put the gun to her head,
688
00:34:50,248 --> 00:34:52,248
blew her brains out.
689
00:34:52,250 --> 00:34:54,116
I got both their death
certificates here.
690
00:34:54,118 --> 00:34:55,985
My gosh.
691
00:34:55,987 --> 00:35:00,456
This is his, gunshot wounds
to the chest -- three --
692
00:35:00,458 --> 00:35:03,192
and then this is her
bullet wound to the head,
693
00:35:03,194 --> 00:35:04,927
so we had a murder-suicide.
694
00:35:04,929 --> 00:35:06,795
Now, I couldn't get
a photo of Lois,
695
00:35:06,797 --> 00:35:10,199
but the sheriff I spoke
to gave me a photo of Cramer.
696
00:35:13,671 --> 00:35:17,339
So, is it possible that it was
Cramer that you saw?
697
00:35:17,341 --> 00:35:19,875
The personality
is pretty right on.
698
00:35:19,877 --> 00:35:22,411
That's just
**** weird.
699
00:35:22,413 --> 00:35:25,648
That pisses me
the **** off. Yeah.
700
00:35:28,353 --> 00:35:30,019
Is there anything else?
701
00:35:30,021 --> 00:35:33,956
So, I met these three guys,
and I called them the corpses.
702
00:35:33,958 --> 00:35:36,492
They have been dead
for a long time.
703
00:35:36,494 --> 00:35:39,561
They have a bunch
of dead kids with them.
704
00:35:39,563 --> 00:35:44,433
They hover around
the last bedroom to the left.
705
00:35:44,435 --> 00:35:47,503
That's the kids' room,
right?
706
00:35:47,505 --> 00:35:52,041
Baylee talks about the three
shadows that are behind her
707
00:35:52,043 --> 00:35:54,410
when she walks down
out of that room.
708
00:35:54,412 --> 00:35:57,313
She's drawn pictures
of it.
709
00:35:57,315 --> 00:35:59,448
Baylee gave me
these drawings earlier today.
710
00:36:01,118 --> 00:36:03,051
Here's what Baylee drew.
711
00:36:03,053 --> 00:36:04,587
My God.
712
00:36:04,589 --> 00:36:06,188
Wow.
713
00:36:09,193 --> 00:36:13,663
So, what exactly do these three
corpses want with the kids here?
714
00:36:13,665 --> 00:36:18,067
What they told me was that,
"We're just here doing our job."
715
00:36:18,069 --> 00:36:21,270
They just do
what they're told
716
00:36:21,272 --> 00:36:25,241
and that they're here to collect
one little girl in particular.
717
00:36:27,278 --> 00:36:30,079
They ain't collecting
any of my kids.
718
00:36:30,081 --> 00:36:32,615
I did have a sketch done
of what I saw.
719
00:36:46,497 --> 00:36:48,097
My God.
720
00:36:51,769 --> 00:36:54,837
Baylee, she describes ****
like this to us all the time.
721
00:36:56,240 --> 00:36:58,274
That's even how she sits
in the bed.
722
00:36:59,643 --> 00:37:02,979
I don't like my little girl
having to see that crap.
723
00:37:02,981 --> 00:37:05,714
The corpses, they were saying
that they're here
724
00:37:05,716 --> 00:37:08,317
for the child
who is sick.
725
00:37:12,589 --> 00:37:14,457
She has half a heart.
726
00:37:14,459 --> 00:37:16,525
What?
727
00:37:16,527 --> 00:37:19,595
She's had three open-heart
surgeries,
728
00:37:19,597 --> 00:37:22,365
and she's doing good.
729
00:37:22,367 --> 00:37:24,367
I knew something was going on
with her.
730
00:37:28,139 --> 00:37:29,805
And what makes me angry is,
like,
731
00:37:29,807 --> 00:37:34,076
they're wanting to take my child
when she's fought.
732
00:37:34,078 --> 00:37:37,380
She deserves to be here,
so **** them.
733
00:37:38,882 --> 00:37:40,750
So, who are
these creeps?
734
00:37:40,752 --> 00:37:43,285
They're basically Death.
735
00:37:43,287 --> 00:37:45,554
Death is their boss,
736
00:37:45,556 --> 00:37:48,424
and so they come
and they wait and they watch.
737
00:37:48,426 --> 00:37:51,560
So they just watch her
all the time?
738
00:37:51,562 --> 00:37:53,562
Yeah.
739
00:37:53,564 --> 00:37:56,832
Everything you're telling me
is Baylee's okay. Yeah.
740
00:37:56,834 --> 00:37:58,633
They know something
we don't?
741
00:37:58,635 --> 00:38:00,703
All I know
is what I report.
742
00:38:00,705 --> 00:38:02,138
This is what I saw.
743
00:38:05,309 --> 00:38:06,509
That's her baby.
744
00:38:06,511 --> 00:38:08,911
That's my little buddy
and her best friend.
745
00:38:08,913 --> 00:38:11,246
I mean, with this,
it's not an ISIS terrorist.
746
00:38:11,248 --> 00:38:13,849
This is something
we can't handle.
747
00:38:13,851 --> 00:38:15,651
Now my anxiety's
flaring up.
748
00:38:15,653 --> 00:38:17,920
Just, like, is my child
just gonna pass away?
749
00:38:17,922 --> 00:38:21,123
They just said,
"We're here because she's sick."
750
00:38:21,125 --> 00:38:23,592
They're watching
and waiting.
751
00:38:23,594 --> 00:38:24,593
They're gonna be waiting
and watching
752
00:38:24,595 --> 00:38:26,462
for a long
**** time.
753
00:38:50,786 --> 00:38:52,320
So, Amber, Dan,
754
00:38:52,322 --> 00:38:55,856
I'm really sorry you've had
to hear all of this tonight.
755
00:38:55,858 --> 00:38:58,192
You have a great kid,
a great family,
756
00:38:58,194 --> 00:38:59,994
and all you want to do
is live together
757
00:38:59,996 --> 00:39:02,730
in health and peace,
right?-
758
00:39:02,732 --> 00:39:05,265
Now we're gonna find out
if that's even possible.
759
00:39:05,267 --> 00:39:06,601
For that, I'm gonna
turn it over to Amy.
760
00:39:09,939 --> 00:39:13,541
Okay,
so first thing is,
761
00:39:13,543 --> 00:39:17,611
you need to set a perimeter
around the land.
762
00:39:17,613 --> 00:39:19,547
Get a large bag
of salt,
763
00:39:19,549 --> 00:39:22,884
and take that around
first the yard
764
00:39:22,886 --> 00:39:25,285
and then
around the house.
765
00:39:25,287 --> 00:39:27,621
Then I want you
to take this,
766
00:39:27,623 --> 00:39:31,358
and I want you to go to the four
corners of the property.
767
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:34,795
Go ahead and spray that right
around the ground there.
768
00:39:34,797 --> 00:39:36,297
What is this stuff?
769
00:39:36,299 --> 00:39:39,967
It's a combination of various
things taken from voodoo,
770
00:39:39,969 --> 00:39:41,635
so it's super potent.
771
00:39:41,637 --> 00:39:44,972
The salt and this thing's gonna
keep the dead people at bay.
772
00:39:44,974 --> 00:39:46,307
Yes.
773
00:39:46,309 --> 00:39:51,178
Once that's done, I have a team
that I can get out here.
774
00:39:51,180 --> 00:39:53,581
Who exactly is on this team
you're talking about?
775
00:39:53,583 --> 00:39:55,916
They're an eclectic mix
of individuals.
776
00:39:55,918 --> 00:39:57,718
You've got mediums,
Reiki.
777
00:39:57,720 --> 00:40:00,321
You got
the whole shebang here.
778
00:40:00,323 --> 00:40:04,191
They are going to focus
on the interior of the house
779
00:40:04,193 --> 00:40:07,595
and getting rid of the dead
that have, like,
780
00:40:07,597 --> 00:40:10,731
basically planted
themselves firmly in here.
781
00:40:10,733 --> 00:40:13,333
That includes
our telepathic nutjob?
782
00:40:13,335 --> 00:40:14,302
Yes.
783
00:40:16,539 --> 00:40:20,408
But what about these
three corpses?
784
00:40:20,410 --> 00:40:21,942
The thing about Baylee,
785
00:40:21,944 --> 00:40:24,478
she's always gonna be
with the dead, you know,
786
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,948
and she's basically
open in every way.
787
00:40:27,950 --> 00:40:30,484
People like her
are gateways.
788
00:40:30,486 --> 00:40:32,119
What's that mean?
789
00:40:32,121 --> 00:40:35,689
Just that they
are essentially functioning
790
00:40:35,691 --> 00:40:38,692
on two planes
at the same time --
791
00:40:38,694 --> 00:40:41,695
the living plane,
the dead plane.
792
00:40:41,697 --> 00:40:44,065
She's always gonna be
dealing with this, alright?
793
00:40:44,067 --> 00:40:47,435
It's kind of unnerving,
hearing about them
794
00:40:47,437 --> 00:40:49,503
just kind of lingering
around my child,
795
00:40:49,505 --> 00:40:50,971
but, I mean --
796
00:40:50,973 --> 00:40:53,040
That's kind of something
we've always known,
797
00:40:53,042 --> 00:40:56,110
like, the way she talks
and everything.
798
00:40:56,112 --> 00:40:57,311
But these guys being here
799
00:40:57,313 --> 00:40:59,046
doesn't mean
Baylee is sick again?
800
00:40:59,048 --> 00:41:00,481
No.
801
00:41:02,385 --> 00:41:05,319
So if they do all this
and follow your advice,
802
00:41:05,321 --> 00:41:06,920
I mean, will life be
a lot better for them
803
00:41:06,922 --> 00:41:09,523
in a couple months?
It'll be a lot better.
804
00:41:09,525 --> 00:41:13,861
So this is
actually good news.
805
00:41:13,863 --> 00:41:15,663
We know what's going on,
who's causing it,
806
00:41:15,665 --> 00:41:16,864
how to get rid of it.
807
00:41:16,866 --> 00:41:18,465
So no more scratches,
no more getting thrown
808
00:41:18,467 --> 00:41:20,067
down the stairs,
809
00:41:20,069 --> 00:41:24,138
and she can pretty much --
for a kid with a half a heart --
810
00:41:24,140 --> 00:41:26,006
She can have
a normal childhood.
811
00:41:26,008 --> 00:41:28,142
She kicks ass.
She can handle anything.
812
00:41:28,144 --> 00:41:30,210
She does. She's great.
I got to ask.
813
00:41:30,212 --> 00:41:32,079
Are you guys gonna follow
Amy's advice?
814
00:41:32,081 --> 00:41:34,548
Absolutely.
Yeah, definitely.
815
00:41:34,550 --> 00:41:35,816
Absolutely.
816
00:41:35,818 --> 00:41:40,087
We ain't gonna wait
to do any of it either.
817
00:41:40,089 --> 00:41:46,160
I am very thankful, like,
very thankful.
818
00:41:46,162 --> 00:41:48,762
I'm ready for her
to come home.
819
00:41:52,368 --> 00:41:54,568
It's going to take
a lot of work,
820
00:41:54,570 --> 00:41:57,371
but if Amber and Dan
follow my advice,
821
00:41:57,373 --> 00:42:01,375
I'm confident they'll be able
to live in their home in peace.
822
00:42:05,648 --> 00:42:07,314
We followed all
of Amy's advice.
823
00:42:07,316 --> 00:42:10,584
Her team came out
and helped clear the house.
824
00:42:10,586 --> 00:42:12,453
It feels so great
in here.
825
00:42:12,455 --> 00:42:16,590
It's literally like light
replaced the darkness.
826
00:42:16,592 --> 00:42:18,859
And I have good dreams
every night,
827
00:42:18,861 --> 00:42:21,662
and I get to sleep
in my own room.
828
00:42:21,664 --> 00:42:23,597
Yeah, she doesn't have
any more nightmares.
829
00:42:23,599 --> 00:42:25,599
We're just very thankful
for the experience
830
00:42:25,601 --> 00:42:27,301
and to Amy and Steve for
everything that they've done.
831
00:42:27,351 --> 00:42:31,901
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