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He's fixated on making
people zombies.
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He overwhelms them.
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He was trying
to take over my body.
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You can't be comfortable
bringing your kids here.
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I'm not.
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Your soul is battling
against the darkness.
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It's a demon.
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It's Satan.
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This is true evil.
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It doesn't end well here
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and I just feel fear.
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My name is Amy Allan.
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This is like Grand Central
Station for the dead.
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I see dead people.
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They have pain
that they suffered.
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I speak to dead people.
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She hates them, hates them.
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And they speak to me,
but there's only one way to know
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if my findings are real.
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It's a demon.
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It's Satan.
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I rely on my partner.
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I'm Steve DiSchiavi.
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I'm a retired New York City
homicide detective.
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What was the body count?
What happened?
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And I know every person,
every house has secrets.
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I don't know
if it's a demon or not,
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but it sure as hell
looks like one.
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It's my job to reveal them.
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I feel like I'm crazy.
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But Steve and I never speak...
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We never communicate
during and investigation.
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...until the very end.
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All right.
I want to show you this.
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When we uncover if it's safe
for you to stay...
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I just don't want anything
to happen to my mother.
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...or time to get out.
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You have to get out.
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So I'm out here
in Gatesville, Texas.
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It's about an hour west of Waco.
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I got a call from a woman
named Christy.
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Now, she sounded pretty upset
on the phone,
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and she tells me the activity
in her house is out of control.
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Listening to her story
broke my heart,
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and I'm hoping there's something
Amy and I can do to help.
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Before Amy arrives, I look
for any leading information.
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Photographs, children's toys,
and even military medals
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can influence her findings.
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So it's important I cover
or remove them all.
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When I'm done, the location will
be ready for tonight's walk.
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This place has extreme
negative energy.
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There's this huge snake, like,
a human-sized king cobra.
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He's all about control.
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What I'm seeing is,
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this thing
has been here a long time.
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It's a battle to live here.
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Your soul is battling
against the darkness.
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So, Christy, I'm glad I'm here
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because when we talked
on the phone,
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you sounded really upset.
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It feels like hell here.
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You don't want to come home...
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...because the minute
you walk in that door,
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you're being emotionally
attacked, emotionally drained.
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We moved here in 2012.
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So, Christy, who lives
in the house now?
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Right now, just my husband
and I, Steve.
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- Okay.
- And these are my two girls.
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My daughter Tiffany, she lived
with us for a little while,
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and this is
my daughter Jessica,
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but I'm most concerned
about my grandkids.
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What's going on
with the grandkids?
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They say there's a mean man
in the back room.
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I made that area, so they could
play back there and have fun,
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but they're too scared
to play in there.
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I think whatever's here
hates kids.
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So that's got to kill you
as a grandmother.
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It does. It really,
really, really does.
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What do you think
is going on here?
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Whatever is here is evil,
and in my heart of hearts,
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I feel like it's a demon.
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Well, I hope it's not, but if
you're right, it's an issue.
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Yes, sir.
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So do me a favor
and give me an idea
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of what you guys
are experiencing.
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Being held down,
being pushed, scratches,
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mood swings, health issues.
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Now, you mentioned mood swings.
What are we talking about?
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Ever been so scared,
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it's like a fear
that you just want to cry?
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When you leave here,
do you feel better?
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I mean, do you go to work?
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I used to work at the female
maximum-security prison
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right down the street,
and I can't work anymore
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because of my health issues.
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Okay.
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So there's a female prison
down the block?
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- Yeah, right down the street.
- Okay.
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That might be something
I want to look into.
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So let me ask you a question.
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Why didn't you just
sell this place
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and get the hell out of here?
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What's to say that whatever
is here doesn't follow me?
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This is supposed to be
our forever home.
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It's not supposed to be
a house of nightmares.
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I am not welcome here.
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This place
sucks up energy, man.
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It's just like a cesspool.
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I'm getting pushed out.
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It's, like, right in my gut,
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and it's physically
pushing me back,
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which make me feel nervous.
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The snake, that thing,
it is manipulating people
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and what they're seeing.
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It makes you, like, have bizarre
thoughts, bizarre behaviors.
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You probably aren't thinking
quite rationally.
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Do you know what this thing is?
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I think, like, people think,
like, it's Satan.
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It's evil.
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It's a demon.
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Okay.
So what's going on in here?
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I felt someone sitting
on the edge of my bed,
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just like this, and then
it got right back up,
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and you could actually
see it release.
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Okay.
Would you say it was an adult?
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- It felt like a man.
- Okay.
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- Was Steve in bed with you?
- No.
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He had already left for work.
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All right. Anything else?
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I have woken up with scratches
on my arm.
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There were three scratches.
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Is it possible you
did it yourself?
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No. No.
My nails aren't that long.
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All right, so I can't think
of an explanation.
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- Anything else?
- Yeah.
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Something touched on my leg.
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How?
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Like this and on my calf, too.
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What'd it feel like,
a man's hand, a woman?
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Like a man's hand,
like a caress.
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It was inappropriate,
and it was cold.
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My god. He's got --
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Okay, just a sec
because he's coming up.
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He's coming up my legs and arm.
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I'm not gonna let him do that.
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Just a sec.
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Get off my **** legs, like,
like, right now, please.
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It seeps into your body.
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Ice, ice, ice-cold.
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I think that people
have been hurt here.
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Has anything else happened
in here?
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I was laying here one night.
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I could hear wings
and as it came toward me,
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it pushed me back on the bed.
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I felt like it was trying
to take over my body.
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I mean, I could actually feel
my eyes being rolled
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in the back of my head.
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What did you do
when that happened?
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I kept saying,
"I need to say, 'No.'
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I need to say, 'No,'"
and when I did, whoosh.
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It receded and went back
in the back of the house,
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but you could still hear
the wings flapping.
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I was so scared, I cried.
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- What did you think it was?
- I felt it was demonic.
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I feel like it was trying
to take over my body.
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I'm hoping that's not the case
because if it is,
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then it's a lot worse
than we thought.
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This snake thing,
it's, like, big.
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I can't put my arms around it,
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and he knows where you're weak.
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And then part of him,
part of him goes with you,
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like a seed, you know?
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It can infect you, and then you
go off and do really bad
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**** here.
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He's, like, fixated on making
people zombies.
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They can do his bidding.
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I feel like it's trying
to control me.
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He's jacking up my head,
and it hurts.
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He's torturing living people.
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So, Jessica, I just got
finished talking to Mom.
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Are you aware of how bad
things are?
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- Yes, very much aware.
- Okay.
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So I understand you're Christy's
daughter with the kids.
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Yes.
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I have four,
three boys and a girl.
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You can't be comfortable
bringing your kids here.
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I'm not.
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It's very hard.
It really is.
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Now, you've never lived here.
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No.
You couldn't make me live here.
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Okay.
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So have you had
your own experiences?
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- Yes, I have.
- Okay.
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So let's talk about
some of them.
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One time, I felt an icy caress
down my back.
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Okay, so where were you
when this happened?
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- I was in the back playroom.
- Okay.
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There was no one else
in the room besides me,
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and it sent, like,
a cold shot through my body.
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Like, I felt it
from head to toe.
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Okay. Anything else?
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In this room, I saw something
that I just can't explain.
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Okay.
Tell me what it looked like.
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The only way I can think
to describe them
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are gremlin-like creatures
crawling across the ceiling.
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There were four of them,
and they had four legs.
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And you're positive it wasn't
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some kind of reflection
from outside?
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My mom keeps the blinds
in here closed.
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I have to ask you.
I mean, after seeing that,
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why did you bring kids
back here after that?
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Because as hard as it
is to come here,
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I don't want to cost them
the opportunity
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to spend time with my parents,
and I love my mother very much.
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I think that whatever is here
is draining the life from her.
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I think
it's trying to kill her.
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Okay.
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How might the living here
be affected by this thing?
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I think they could
become violent.
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I think they could
become depressed.
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It would be bad.
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It doesn't end well here
for living people.
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So, Tiffany, things are
pretty bad in this house.
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Yes, very bad.
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I can see that you're upset,
but why did you think
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it was important
to talk in this room?
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I used to live here,
and I stayed in this room.
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Okay, so this place has
bad memories for you?
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Yes.
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Okay. You okay?
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I feel very emotional
and scared back here.
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Okay. All right.
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- Sorry.
- No, no. It's okay. Relax.
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It's all right.
No, no, no, no.
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It's okay.
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Nothing's gonna happen
to you while I'm here.
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Trust me on that.
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That makes me feel better.
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Yeah, good. All right?
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Take me through some
of the experiences you had.
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In certain areas,
there's cold spots.
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Okay, now, there's a vent
right above you there.
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Could that explain it?
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No.
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The heat would be on.
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And how cold are we talking?
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Like, freezer cold.
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Okay. Anything else?
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When I laid down to go to sleep,
and all of a sudden,
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I heard a male whisper
in my ear my name.
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- What was the voice like?
- It'd been in an aggressive way.
252
00:12:04,923 --> 00:12:07,857
It went like, "Tiffany!"
253
00:12:07,859 --> 00:12:09,392
Anything else?
254
00:12:09,394 --> 00:12:10,926
I had a dream...
255
00:12:10,928 --> 00:12:12,128
Okay.
256
00:12:12,130 --> 00:12:15,397
...of a little girl
standing over me.
257
00:12:15,399 --> 00:12:17,199
Describe the girl to me.
258
00:12:17,201 --> 00:12:19,001
She was, like, about 6 or 7.
259
00:12:19,003 --> 00:12:23,672
She had long blonde hair,
and her eyes were solid black.
260
00:12:23,674 --> 00:12:25,007
You worried about Mom as well?
261
00:12:25,009 --> 00:12:27,210
Very worried about her,
262
00:12:27,212 --> 00:12:30,480
and I couldn't stand it
if anything happened to her.
263
00:12:30,482 --> 00:12:33,549
Well, we're gonna make sure
nothing does, okay?
264
00:12:33,551 --> 00:12:35,818
- I hope so.
- All right.
265
00:12:42,293 --> 00:12:46,028
I'm seeing a little girl.
266
00:12:46,030 --> 00:12:50,566
She is a dead person,
and she's probably,
267
00:12:50,568 --> 00:12:52,901
I don't know, maybe even,
like, 8 or 9?
268
00:12:58,977 --> 00:13:02,044
I do get that the dead little
girl comes in here a lot.
269
00:13:05,049 --> 00:13:09,185
That she likes
to get on the bed.
270
00:13:09,187 --> 00:13:11,320
She crawls up on it.
271
00:13:20,130 --> 00:13:21,998
- Hey, Steve.
- How you doing?
272
00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:23,332
Good.
You got a moment to chat?
273
00:13:23,334 --> 00:13:25,601
- Yes, I do.
- All right, great.
274
00:13:25,603 --> 00:13:29,305
So, Steve, a lot of male clients
are pretty skeptical.
275
00:13:29,307 --> 00:13:30,540
How about you?
276
00:13:30,542 --> 00:13:31,941
I was at first.
277
00:13:31,943 --> 00:13:33,208
What changed your mind?
278
00:13:33,210 --> 00:13:34,877
I was sitting out on the porch
one night,
279
00:13:34,879 --> 00:13:37,680
and I heard a man
clearing his throat.
280
00:13:37,682 --> 00:13:39,348
I know this place
is pretty remote,
281
00:13:39,350 --> 00:13:40,482
and nobody really around here,
282
00:13:40,484 --> 00:13:42,552
but could it have been
some transient guy
283
00:13:42,554 --> 00:13:44,152
maybe just walking
through?
284
00:13:44,154 --> 00:13:46,689
Possible, that's why I grabbed
the flashlight,
285
00:13:46,691 --> 00:13:48,557
got in my truck,
drove around the property
286
00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:50,560
to look
but didn't see anything.
287
00:13:50,562 --> 00:13:51,827
All right. Anything else?
288
00:13:51,829 --> 00:13:53,829
We have a doll.
289
00:13:53,831 --> 00:13:56,566
The doll has a hat.
290
00:13:56,568 --> 00:13:59,302
The hat was found
in the hallway
291
00:13:59,304 --> 00:14:01,837
on two different occasions
on the same day.
292
00:14:01,839 --> 00:14:03,506
And you don't have any animals
that might grab
293
00:14:03,508 --> 00:14:04,907
the hat
off the doll and...
294
00:14:04,909 --> 00:14:06,108
- No animals.
- ...walk away with it?
295
00:14:06,110 --> 00:14:08,043
No animals.
296
00:14:08,045 --> 00:14:09,912
So I was talking to your wife,
297
00:14:09,914 --> 00:14:12,515
and I tell you, pretty upsetting
what she's going through.
298
00:14:12,517 --> 00:14:14,049
I mean, how are you dealing
with that?
299
00:14:14,051 --> 00:14:16,452
I feel totally helpless.
300
00:14:16,454 --> 00:14:18,120
She can be cheery one minute,
301
00:14:18,122 --> 00:14:21,056
and then she spends
some time being depressed.
302
00:14:21,058 --> 00:14:23,659
If Amy says to leave,
what are you gonna do?
303
00:14:23,661 --> 00:14:24,860
We're gonna get out.
304
00:14:24,862 --> 00:14:27,596
For the safety of my family,
we will do that.
305
00:14:27,598 --> 00:14:30,867
Okay.
306
00:14:30,869 --> 00:14:36,806
I feel very, very anxious, like
really stressed out back here.
307
00:14:36,808 --> 00:14:41,944
I'm seeing this crying man.
308
00:14:41,946 --> 00:14:43,946
You know, he's just, like,
freaking out.
309
00:14:47,752 --> 00:14:51,954
Really, like, super high energy
anxious dude.
310
00:14:51,956 --> 00:14:54,824
The crying man is back here.
311
00:14:54,826 --> 00:14:59,362
I think that the living
312
00:14:59,364 --> 00:15:02,097
would experience
313
00:15:02,099 --> 00:15:05,101
his extreme anxiety,
314
00:15:05,103 --> 00:15:07,036
his emotional state.
315
00:15:11,175 --> 00:15:13,642
I also think they
would hear him.
316
00:15:13,644 --> 00:15:16,178
He's very loud.
317
00:15:16,180 --> 00:15:18,113
He's very physical.
318
00:15:20,851 --> 00:15:22,852
So movement of objectives.
319
00:15:22,854 --> 00:15:24,854
It's not found in the same spot,
320
00:15:24,856 --> 00:15:28,724
which may cause them
to second-guess themselves.
321
00:15:28,726 --> 00:15:30,926
I think
it would make you crazy.
322
00:15:30,928 --> 00:15:34,463
I'm feeling death right now.
323
00:15:54,851 --> 00:15:56,250
This place is so small,
324
00:15:56,252 --> 00:15:59,186
it makes the middle
of nowhere seem exciting.
325
00:15:59,188 --> 00:16:00,588
So I made my usual calls
326
00:16:00,590 --> 00:16:02,656
and just heard back
from the county sheriff.
327
00:16:02,658 --> 00:16:06,460
Now, he knows all about Steve
and Christy's property
328
00:16:06,462 --> 00:16:09,396
and says the land used to be
owned by another sheriff,
329
00:16:09,398 --> 00:16:12,733
that is until he lost everything
during an arrest gone bad.
330
00:16:20,075 --> 00:16:21,808
Now, you mentioned on the phone
that one of the owners
331
00:16:21,810 --> 00:16:24,278
of my clients' land
was also a sheriff.
332
00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:26,747
Yes, sir. His name was
Walter Hollingsworth.
333
00:16:26,749 --> 00:16:29,816
He's very well-liked
within the town
334
00:16:29,818 --> 00:16:31,619
You know, they describe him
as a tall man
335
00:16:31,621 --> 00:16:32,820
with a lot of nervous energy.
336
00:16:32,822 --> 00:16:35,423
In 1908, he married his wife,
337
00:16:35,425 --> 00:16:36,890
Birdie, and the two
of them of them
338
00:16:36,892 --> 00:16:39,960
eventually had five kids.
339
00:16:39,962 --> 00:16:42,163
Okay, so now, before he comes
the sheriff,
340
00:16:42,165 --> 00:16:44,098
was he a deputy
or anything like that? No, sir.
341
00:16:44,100 --> 00:16:47,101
Sheriff Hollingsworth was
a really religious guy.
342
00:16:47,103 --> 00:16:48,902
He was known as a preacher.
343
00:16:48,904 --> 00:16:52,906
Sheriff Hollingsworth decided
to run for sheriff in 1914.
344
00:16:52,908 --> 00:16:54,842
He believed that he could do
more good
345
00:16:54,844 --> 00:16:58,446
as a lawman than a preacher.
346
00:16:58,448 --> 00:16:59,647
So now, you mentioned
on the phone
347
00:16:59,649 --> 00:17:00,981
that things went pretty bad
for him
348
00:17:00,983 --> 00:17:02,383
when an arrest went wrong.
349
00:17:02,385 --> 00:17:03,584
What happened?
350
00:17:03,586 --> 00:17:05,653
I'm sure, Steve,
when you was driving in,
351
00:17:05,655 --> 00:17:07,854
you noticed close
to your clients' property
352
00:17:07,856 --> 00:17:10,524
that there was a woman's
prison out there.
353
00:17:10,526 --> 00:17:13,928
Used to be a boy's
reformatory school.
354
00:17:13,930 --> 00:17:14,995
Okay.
355
00:17:14,997 --> 00:17:18,332
In 1931, there was a subject
in the jail
356
00:17:18,334 --> 00:17:21,002
that was very mentally
unstable.
357
00:17:21,004 --> 00:17:23,671
Well, Sheriff Hollingsworth
went back to try to subdue him,
358
00:17:23,673 --> 00:17:25,072
and during the fight,
359
00:17:25,074 --> 00:17:29,810
the jail doctor came to try
to help Sheriff Hollingsworth,
360
00:17:29,812 --> 00:17:34,281
and he swung a metal pipe
trying to hit the offender
361
00:17:34,283 --> 00:17:35,349
and wound up striking
362
00:17:35,351 --> 00:17:37,284
Sheriff Hollingsworth
in the head.
363
00:17:37,286 --> 00:17:39,086
All right.
364
00:17:39,088 --> 00:17:41,756
So he gets hit with friendly
fire from a steel pipe?
365
00:17:41,758 --> 00:17:45,359
Absolutely, and the injuries
were brutal.
366
00:17:45,361 --> 00:17:47,294
- Does he die on the scene?
- No.
367
00:17:47,296 --> 00:17:51,132
He actually goes to
a sanitarium in Waco,
368
00:17:51,134 --> 00:17:53,234
but with all
the brain swelling,
369
00:17:53,236 --> 00:17:55,770
he had to have
a portion of it removed.
370
00:17:55,772 --> 00:17:57,171
All right.
So what happened?
371
00:17:57,173 --> 00:18:01,042
He continued on as sheriff,
and in 1933,
372
00:18:01,044 --> 00:18:03,377
he bought
your clients' property.
373
00:18:03,379 --> 00:18:04,845
Okay. All right.
374
00:18:04,847 --> 00:18:06,180
But within a year,
375
00:18:06,182 --> 00:18:12,119
he died due to the complication
from his injury.
376
00:18:12,121 --> 00:18:15,723
I'm seeing
this crying man again.
377
00:18:15,725 --> 00:18:19,593
He's really stressed out.
378
00:18:19,595 --> 00:18:24,532
I do think, like, he was,
like, really religious.
379
00:18:24,534 --> 00:18:26,133
I think he's got, like,
I'm thinking
380
00:18:26,135 --> 00:18:28,202
it's the Bible with him.
381
00:18:28,204 --> 00:18:30,470
God. I feel sick.!
382
00:18:30,472 --> 00:18:32,339
He's super anxious,
really, like,
383
00:18:32,341 --> 00:18:34,541
super high-energy anxious dude.
384
00:18:39,415 --> 00:18:43,016
He said the economy
was really bad.-
385
00:18:43,018 --> 00:18:44,751
So he was murdered.
386
00:18:44,753 --> 00:18:47,421
But I don't know where.
387
00:18:50,360 --> 00:18:51,759
All right, so now, he's dead,
388
00:18:51,761 --> 00:18:53,994
and he's got a wife
and, what, five kids?
389
00:18:53,996 --> 00:18:55,896
- Yes.
- So what happened with them?
390
00:18:55,898 --> 00:18:58,432
Birdie, his wife, actually was
appointed sheriff
391
00:18:58,434 --> 00:18:59,900
and completed his term.
392
00:18:59,902 --> 00:19:01,301
Female sheriff?
393
00:19:01,303 --> 00:19:05,105
The first and only female
sheriff here in Coryell County.
394
00:19:05,107 --> 00:19:07,775
- Okay.
- Unfortunately, money was tight.
395
00:19:07,777 --> 00:19:10,311
Right.
You know, being in the middle of the Great Depression,
396
00:19:10,313 --> 00:19:12,713
she had to relinquish
that property.
397
00:19:12,715 --> 00:19:17,785
She wound up dying nearby
in 1953 at the age of 68,
398
00:19:17,787 --> 00:19:21,122
and that's a photo of her.
399
00:19:21,124 --> 00:19:22,523
She don't look too happy?
400
00:19:22,525 --> 00:19:24,458
No, she looks pretty hurt.
401
00:19:31,067 --> 00:19:33,868
So there is
a dead woman here.
402
00:19:33,870 --> 00:19:35,803
She lived here for a long time.
403
00:19:35,805 --> 00:19:37,337
I feel like she knows
this place.
404
00:19:37,339 --> 00:19:38,538
You know what I'm saying?
405
00:19:38,540 --> 00:19:41,876
And I probably say
she's probably, like,
406
00:19:41,878 --> 00:19:45,946
late 70s, early 80s?
407
00:19:45,948 --> 00:19:51,151
Like, I almost want to put her
in the '40s or '50s, maybe.
408
00:19:54,223 --> 00:19:59,893
She's saying the guy with
the Bible outside comes inside.
409
00:19:59,895 --> 00:20:04,098
She said, "He bothers them.
He bothers them a lot."
410
00:20:08,370 --> 00:20:12,773
And she's like, "He will stand
there all night and just
411
00:20:12,775 --> 00:20:16,510
****, like, preach."
412
00:20:16,512 --> 00:20:19,847
That freaks out
the living people here.
413
00:20:19,849 --> 00:20:22,183
They're hearing him talking,
414
00:20:22,185 --> 00:20:25,986
and they're feeling his energy.
415
00:20:25,988 --> 00:20:28,922
They're freaking out
because he overwhelms them.
416
00:20:28,924 --> 00:20:30,657
He overwhelms them.
417
00:20:41,136 --> 00:20:43,136
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418
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419
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421
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423
00:21:06,260 --> 00:21:08,594
So here's an interesting fact
about this city.
424
00:21:08,596 --> 00:21:10,929
About 15,000 people live here,
425
00:21:10,931 --> 00:21:13,132
and more than half of them
are locked up.
426
00:21:13,134 --> 00:21:15,134
Now, Christy was a guard
at that big prison
427
00:21:15,136 --> 00:21:17,937
down the street from her house,
so I called a local author
428
00:21:17,939 --> 00:21:20,672
who said it used to be
a boy's reformatory,
429
00:21:20,674 --> 00:21:22,808
and what went on there
was so shocking,
430
00:21:22,810 --> 00:21:24,210
it will definitely
help my case.
431
00:21:32,086 --> 00:21:33,552
Well, Dr. Bush, thanks
for meeting me here.
432
00:21:33,554 --> 00:21:34,687
I appreciate that.
433
00:21:34,689 --> 00:21:37,022
Before we get to what went wrong
at the school,
434
00:21:37,024 --> 00:21:38,357
how did it even start?
435
00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:41,694
It opened because of a group
of Christian women reformers
436
00:21:41,696 --> 00:21:44,296
who had been visiting
all of the prisons in Texas
437
00:21:44,298 --> 00:21:46,298
to check on
the conditions there,
438
00:21:46,300 --> 00:21:49,101
and they discovered
all of these teenage boys
439
00:21:49,103 --> 00:21:51,704
in the prisons
with the adult prisoners,
440
00:21:51,706 --> 00:21:55,241
so in 1889,
68 boys were transferred out of
441
00:21:55,243 --> 00:21:57,910
the Texas prisons
into Gatesville,
442
00:21:57,912 --> 00:21:59,245
and I have a picture
of it right here
443
00:21:59,247 --> 00:22:02,915
to give you a sense
of what it looked like.
444
00:22:02,917 --> 00:22:04,316
When did it go bad?
445
00:22:04,318 --> 00:22:06,451
It started going bad pretty much
right from the beginning --
446
00:22:06,453 --> 00:22:09,121
a lot of fighting,
a lot of violence,
447
00:22:09,123 --> 00:22:12,858
definitely reports
of inmate rape.
448
00:22:12,860 --> 00:22:14,459
What were their living
conditions like?
449
00:22:14,461 --> 00:22:16,662
They had these sort of
mass-custody dorms.
450
00:22:16,664 --> 00:22:18,397
I've got a picture
of one of them here.
451
00:22:18,399 --> 00:22:21,734
You can see it's just rows
and rows of beds.
452
00:22:21,736 --> 00:22:24,069
It's almost like
a hospital ward.
453
00:22:24,071 --> 00:22:26,071
So there's a lot of
overcrowding there.
454
00:22:26,073 --> 00:22:27,539
It was really unsanitary,
455
00:22:27,541 --> 00:22:30,075
so you had disease epidemics
break out.
456
00:22:30,077 --> 00:22:33,045
In 1918 when
the Spanish Flu epidemic
457
00:22:33,047 --> 00:22:36,348
swept the United States,
300 boys in Gatesville
458
00:22:36,350 --> 00:22:39,284
caught it,
and eight of them died.
459
00:22:39,286 --> 00:22:42,554
Another eight died
in accidents,
460
00:22:42,556 --> 00:22:44,757
other sicknesses
that could've been prevented
461
00:22:44,759 --> 00:22:46,491
if conditions had been better.
462
00:22:46,493 --> 00:22:48,493
What happens to their bodies?
Their family take them?
463
00:22:48,495 --> 00:22:50,495
There was actually a cemetery
464
00:22:50,497 --> 00:22:53,766
that still exists
on the grounds today.
465
00:22:53,768 --> 00:22:55,367
So I know it eventually
closed down,
466
00:22:55,369 --> 00:22:58,036
and now, it's a women's prison,
from what I understand.
467
00:22:58,038 --> 00:23:01,307
In '79, it shut down,
and the very next year in 1980,
468
00:23:01,309 --> 00:23:03,308
it reopened
as a women's prison.
469
00:23:07,648 --> 00:23:13,185
There's, like, all of these
very old brown skeletons.
470
00:23:13,187 --> 00:23:18,857
They just are to the side of,
like, this path,
471
00:23:18,859 --> 00:23:23,529
and I see a hundred men
facing the road,
472
00:23:23,531 --> 00:23:26,866
and all of them turn
at the same time.
473
00:23:26,868 --> 00:23:28,066
They're all men.
474
00:23:28,068 --> 00:23:29,734
They're all male,
and they're pointing,
475
00:23:29,736 --> 00:23:32,738
and what they're pointing at
is where the church should be,
476
00:23:32,740 --> 00:23:35,874
and all of a sudden,
all these walls come up,
477
00:23:35,876 --> 00:23:38,444
like these cement walls,
478
00:23:38,446 --> 00:23:40,812
and then I feel like it
was a trick,
479
00:23:40,814 --> 00:23:46,017
and I got duped,
and I'm trapped.
480
00:23:46,019 --> 00:23:50,089
The snake, that thing, that man,
it's causing violence.
481
00:23:50,091 --> 00:23:54,359
Any negative things
that living have done here
482
00:23:54,361 --> 00:23:55,628
was because of him.
483
00:23:59,901 --> 00:24:02,701
Since the reformatory
closed in 1979,
484
00:24:02,703 --> 00:24:04,369
there have got to be
some people in town
485
00:24:04,371 --> 00:24:05,770
who used to be inmates there.
486
00:24:05,772 --> 00:24:08,106
So I worked the phones, talked
to a bunch of the locals,
487
00:24:08,108 --> 00:24:10,375
and I finally got in touch
with one guy
488
00:24:10,377 --> 00:24:12,778
who says the experience
was so horrible,
489
00:24:12,780 --> 00:24:13,846
he's never gotten over it.
490
00:24:20,254 --> 00:24:21,854
Obviously, this school
was a big deal
491
00:24:21,856 --> 00:24:24,256
to have a whole wing
to it in this museum.
492
00:24:24,258 --> 00:24:26,792
I don't mean to pry, but I need
to know if you can tell me.
493
00:24:26,794 --> 00:24:28,326
How the hell did you wind
up in here?
494
00:24:28,328 --> 00:24:30,062
Truancy, believe it or not.
495
00:24:30,064 --> 00:24:31,530
All right.
So let me get this straight.
496
00:24:31,532 --> 00:24:33,599
You wound up in prison
because you didn't go to school?
497
00:24:33,601 --> 00:24:34,934
You skipped out of school?
498
00:24:34,936 --> 00:24:36,802
I mean would've been in jail
at 11.
499
00:24:36,804 --> 00:24:39,204
What year did you get
sentenced here? 1975.
500
00:24:39,206 --> 00:24:40,739
I was 15.
501
00:24:40,741 --> 00:24:43,075
I just spoke to a professor
who told me
502
00:24:43,077 --> 00:24:44,676
that the conditions
were barbaric there.
503
00:24:44,678 --> 00:24:45,944
What was it like
when you were there?
504
00:24:45,946 --> 00:24:48,213
You could've called it
a gladiator farm.
505
00:24:48,215 --> 00:24:50,816
In order to have any kind
of respect
506
00:24:50,818 --> 00:24:54,486
with any of the kids there, you
had to stand up for yourself.
507
00:24:54,488 --> 00:24:55,888
Otherwise, you would be
eaten alive.
508
00:24:55,890 --> 00:24:58,156
And it's not something
you get out of your head.
509
00:24:58,158 --> 00:25:00,226
No. I still think about that.
510
00:25:00,228 --> 00:25:02,428
Did you ever attempt
to get out of this place?
511
00:25:02,430 --> 00:25:04,563
More times than
I can probably count.
512
00:25:04,565 --> 00:25:06,965
Okay, when you escaped,
what was it like?
513
00:25:06,967 --> 00:25:11,436
Somewhere between terrifying
and exhilarating.
514
00:25:11,438 --> 00:25:13,839
Your heart is racing
100 miles an hour.
515
00:25:13,841 --> 00:25:16,508
The horsemen, we heard them
as they were approaching
516
00:25:16,510 --> 00:25:18,777
because you could hear them
talking on their walkie-talkies.
517
00:25:18,779 --> 00:25:22,515
You could hear the dogs baying,
absolutely terrifying.
518
00:25:22,517 --> 00:25:24,183
It's the run for your life,
519
00:25:24,185 --> 00:25:26,852
and you knew that
if they caught you
520
00:25:26,854 --> 00:25:30,523
that you were going to take
a pretty hardcore beating
521
00:25:30,525 --> 00:25:32,257
or get killed.
522
00:25:32,259 --> 00:25:34,326
So, obviously,
you got picked up. Yes.
523
00:25:34,328 --> 00:25:37,730
Unfortunately, the Coryell
County Sheriff's Department,
524
00:25:37,732 --> 00:25:41,000
the state guys, they were
all on top of us like crazy.
525
00:25:41,002 --> 00:25:43,335
So do you know of anyone
personally
526
00:25:43,337 --> 00:25:45,938
that didn't make it back
from one of these escapes?
527
00:25:45,940 --> 00:25:49,808
There was a kid on our dorm
that didn't make it back.
528
00:25:49,810 --> 00:25:52,144
I believe it happened
to a lot of kids.
529
00:25:52,146 --> 00:25:55,147
I believe some of them
are still on the grounds.
530
00:25:55,149 --> 00:25:56,282
I really do.
531
00:25:56,284 --> 00:25:58,484
Do you think you ever got
over your time here?
532
00:25:58,486 --> 00:26:00,085
No, probably not.
533
00:26:00,087 --> 00:26:02,554
It took me a long time
to get to where
534
00:26:02,556 --> 00:26:05,290
I didn't sleep
with one eye open.
535
00:26:05,292 --> 00:26:09,828
I think it's haunted a lot of
people, and it still haunts me.
536
00:26:20,374 --> 00:26:23,642
I saw a lot of disturbing things
during my walk,
537
00:26:23,644 --> 00:26:26,512
but the snakelike creature
tormenting the living
538
00:26:26,514 --> 00:26:28,847
has me the most concerned.
539
00:26:28,849 --> 00:26:33,918
It was
this gray nonhuman thing.
540
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:38,757
He had, like, pin-straight hair,
like, an abnormally thin neck,
541
00:26:38,759 --> 00:26:43,862
leaning over a person in a bed,
and he turned into a snake.
542
00:26:46,467 --> 00:26:49,267
I would make that
a little bit wider...
543
00:26:49,269 --> 00:26:50,468
- Wider?
- Yeah.
544
00:26:50,470 --> 00:26:52,605
...and not too much
nostril here. Okay.
545
00:26:58,946 --> 00:27:02,014
Amy, is this what you saw?
546
00:27:02,016 --> 00:27:03,415
Yes.
547
00:27:28,974 --> 00:27:31,842
Now that Amy and I have
completed our investigations,
548
00:27:31,844 --> 00:27:34,711
we're ready to reveal
our findings to each other
549
00:27:34,713 --> 00:27:37,581
and our clients
for the first time.
550
00:27:37,583 --> 00:27:40,250
So, Amy, this is Christy,
and this is her husband, Steve.
551
00:27:40,252 --> 00:27:42,785
They live here together,
and this is Tiffany,
552
00:27:42,787 --> 00:27:44,254
Christy's daughter.
553
00:27:44,256 --> 00:27:46,856
Now, I got to tell you.
Christy's story broke my heart.
554
00:27:46,858 --> 00:27:48,525
She believes whatever here
is evil
555
00:27:48,527 --> 00:27:51,461
and hates women and children,
and that's a huge problem
556
00:27:51,463 --> 00:27:54,530
because Christy has four
beautiful grandchildren.
557
00:27:56,801 --> 00:27:59,669
Now, these kids visit a lot,
558
00:27:59,671 --> 00:28:01,871
so she's hoping you can show her
what's here
559
00:28:01,873 --> 00:28:04,207
and how to kick it out.
560
00:28:04,209 --> 00:28:06,476
So now that Amy knows a little
bit about you guys,
561
00:28:06,478 --> 00:28:08,211
she'll tell us about her walk.
562
00:28:14,886 --> 00:28:17,754
There's an extreme amount
of negative energy
563
00:28:17,756 --> 00:28:20,090
here in this area.
564
00:28:20,092 --> 00:28:23,560
I was feeling multiple deaths
that had occurred,
565
00:28:23,562 --> 00:28:26,029
very violent deaths
that were nearby.
566
00:28:26,031 --> 00:28:31,568
I was shown a lot of really
old bones,
567
00:28:31,570 --> 00:28:34,036
and they were all scattered.
568
00:28:34,038 --> 00:28:35,572
The next thing was,
569
00:28:35,574 --> 00:28:40,444
I saw about a hundred people.
570
00:28:40,446 --> 00:28:43,713
They were pointing towards
what should be a church,
571
00:28:43,715 --> 00:28:46,182
but it was in ruins.
572
00:28:46,184 --> 00:28:48,518
Then these large cement walls
573
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:53,590
just came up on all four sides
and just blocked me in.
574
00:28:53,592 --> 00:28:55,392
A lot of what you mentioned
makes me think of the prison
575
00:28:55,394 --> 00:28:56,793
right down the road from here.
576
00:28:56,795 --> 00:28:59,062
Now, Christy, actually,
you worked there, right?
577
00:29:00,532 --> 00:29:03,200
So these days, it's a maximum
security women's prison.
578
00:29:03,202 --> 00:29:04,668
Really?
579
00:29:04,670 --> 00:29:07,203
But back in the day, it was
a boy's reformatory school.
580
00:29:07,205 --> 00:29:08,404
Interesting.
581
00:29:08,406 --> 00:29:11,040
Now, you mentioned
that you saw a church.
582
00:29:11,042 --> 00:29:15,678
It was started in the late 1800s
by a woman's Christian group.
583
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:17,013
The goal of this whole thing
was to help
584
00:29:17,015 --> 00:29:19,148
troubled kids
turn their lives around.
585
00:29:19,150 --> 00:29:22,285
Instead, it turned
into a nightmare.
586
00:29:22,287 --> 00:29:26,088
They were abused, beaten,
raped, tortured.
587
00:29:26,090 --> 00:29:28,759
How could anyone do that
to children?
588
00:29:28,761 --> 00:29:32,162
Conditions were so bad there,
16 kids died in a 20-year period
589
00:29:32,164 --> 00:29:35,298
from 1900 to 1920.
590
00:29:35,300 --> 00:29:37,634
The kids were buried
right on the grounds
591
00:29:37,636 --> 00:29:41,638
just down the street from here.
592
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:45,709
Cemetery's still there today.
593
00:29:45,711 --> 00:29:47,510
Now, the abuse
went on for years.
594
00:29:47,512 --> 00:29:51,514
Finally, the Feds came in,
and in 1979, they shut it down.
595
00:29:51,516 --> 00:29:54,851
I heard stories,
and I didn't know what was true
596
00:29:54,853 --> 00:29:56,253
and what wasn't true.
597
00:30:00,225 --> 00:30:03,126
Okay. So what else?
598
00:30:03,128 --> 00:30:07,130
One of the dead people
that I ran into
599
00:30:07,132 --> 00:30:11,868
was a deceased little girl.
600
00:30:11,870 --> 00:30:15,939
I was guessing her age
at about 8 years.
601
00:30:15,941 --> 00:30:19,142
Living people in this house
might see her.
602
00:30:19,144 --> 00:30:20,610
That's interesting.
603
00:30:20,612 --> 00:30:23,146
Tiffany, did you tell me about
having a dream of a little girl?
604
00:30:23,148 --> 00:30:24,948
I did.
605
00:30:24,950 --> 00:30:26,616
She had long blonde hair.
606
00:30:26,618 --> 00:30:29,152
I didn't see what she was
wearing or anything,
607
00:30:29,154 --> 00:30:31,554
but she did
have solid black eyes.
608
00:30:31,556 --> 00:30:32,688
Interesting.
609
00:30:32,690 --> 00:30:36,158
She spends a lot of time
in the master bedroom.
610
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:41,431
She also was showing me
that she would get into bed
611
00:30:41,433 --> 00:30:43,833
and crawl kind of
to the bottom of the bed
612
00:30:43,835 --> 00:30:47,437
and curl up like
a little dog.
613
00:30:47,439 --> 00:30:49,172
I was laying in bed,
614
00:30:49,174 --> 00:30:53,777
and I felt like something
was definitely in the bed.
615
00:30:59,117 --> 00:31:03,320
The next dead person I ran into
was just freaking out,
616
00:31:03,322 --> 00:31:05,989
so I call him the crying man.
617
00:31:05,991 --> 00:31:09,125
He has a very big impact
618
00:31:09,127 --> 00:31:12,128
on the living in this house.
619
00:31:12,130 --> 00:31:16,600
He has extremely high anxiety.
620
00:31:16,602 --> 00:31:20,804
He can easily affect the living
and their emotions
621
00:31:20,806 --> 00:31:22,672
when they're around him,
622
00:31:22,674 --> 00:31:27,077
so that could swing
from extreme stress and anxiety
623
00:31:27,079 --> 00:31:29,078
to extreme depression,
624
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:33,950
possibly even the need
to cry unexpectedly.
625
00:31:33,952 --> 00:31:39,356
I go from crying to large
bouts of depression,
626
00:31:39,358 --> 00:31:43,359
sadness, anxiety,
and there's lots of anger,
627
00:31:43,361 --> 00:31:46,228
constant roller coaster
of emotions.
628
00:31:46,230 --> 00:31:48,899
So, Tiffany, when you're here,
do you feel that? Yes.
629
00:31:48,901 --> 00:31:53,770
I feel sad and especially
in the back room.
630
00:31:53,772 --> 00:31:57,240
Now, you used to live back
in that room? Yes, I did.
631
00:31:57,242 --> 00:31:59,308
He talks a lot,
632
00:31:59,310 --> 00:32:02,912
so I thought that maybe
the living here would hear him.
633
00:32:02,914 --> 00:32:04,380
Tell Amy what happened.
634
00:32:04,382 --> 00:32:06,650
I was sitting out on the porch
one night,
635
00:32:06,652 --> 00:32:09,652
and it sounded like a man
cleared his voice,
636
00:32:09,654 --> 00:32:11,221
got my attention.
637
00:32:11,223 --> 00:32:14,857
I got a flashlight, and I drove
around the property, nothing.
638
00:32:14,859 --> 00:32:16,660
I was in that back room,
639
00:32:16,662 --> 00:32:18,061
and I was getting ready
to go to bed.
640
00:32:18,063 --> 00:32:21,197
I had just laid down,
and out of nowhere,
641
00:32:21,199 --> 00:32:23,332
I heard my name
whispered in my ear,
642
00:32:23,334 --> 00:32:24,935
and it was a man's voice.
643
00:32:24,937 --> 00:32:27,403
Okay. Okay.
644
00:32:27,405 --> 00:32:30,607
So any idea who this guy
might've been when he was alive?
645
00:32:30,609 --> 00:32:32,541
So he was white.
646
00:32:32,543 --> 00:32:36,746
I believe he owned
this property at some point.
647
00:32:36,748 --> 00:32:40,016
He was extremely religious,
and he just said, you know,
648
00:32:40,018 --> 00:32:41,818
"The economy was horrible.
649
00:32:41,820 --> 00:32:45,422
Everything was really bad.
We lost it all."
650
00:32:45,424 --> 00:32:48,825
I think I might know
who she's talking about.
651
00:32:48,827 --> 00:32:50,626
Back in the 1930s,
this property was owned
652
00:32:50,628 --> 00:32:52,696
by a former sheriff
of the county.
653
00:32:52,698 --> 00:32:54,497
His name was
Walter Hollingsworth.
654
00:32:54,499 --> 00:32:57,834
He was extremely,
extremely religious.
655
00:32:57,836 --> 00:33:00,637
Before he was a sheriff,
he was a preacher.
656
00:33:00,639 --> 00:33:02,238
Wow. Okay.
657
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,374
I also tracked down a photo
of Hollingsworth
658
00:33:04,376 --> 00:33:09,179
when he first got the job
as the sheriff.
659
00:33:09,181 --> 00:33:12,782
Now, in 1931, his life changed.
660
00:33:12,784 --> 00:33:14,317
An inmate was going nuts
in the jail,
661
00:33:14,319 --> 00:33:17,854
and Hollingsworth tackled him
to get him to calm down.
662
00:33:17,856 --> 00:33:21,257
The jail doctor
grabs a lead pipe.
663
00:33:21,259 --> 00:33:23,192
He tried hitting the convict
with that lead pipe,
664
00:33:23,194 --> 00:33:25,728
but he wound up
hitting the sheriff.
665
00:33:25,730 --> 00:33:27,063
He was in the hospital
a long time
666
00:33:27,065 --> 00:33:29,399
and even had part
of his brain removed.
667
00:33:29,401 --> 00:33:30,600
****.
668
00:33:30,602 --> 00:33:33,402
- No.
- My god.
669
00:33:33,404 --> 00:33:35,405
Now, he died three years
later in 1934
670
00:33:35,407 --> 00:33:40,143
due to complications from
that injury at the age of 60. Okay.
671
00:33:40,145 --> 00:33:44,414
After that accident, his wife,
Birdie, took over as sheriff.
672
00:33:44,416 --> 00:33:45,815
I actually have
a picture of her.
673
00:33:50,355 --> 00:33:53,356
But by 1935,
she was completely broke
674
00:33:53,358 --> 00:33:55,825
and had to give up
the property.
675
00:33:55,827 --> 00:33:59,161
She ended up dying in 1953
at the age of 68.
676
00:33:59,163 --> 00:34:00,897
She was penniless.
677
00:34:06,637 --> 00:34:10,706
So this kind of brings me
to what I think
678
00:34:10,708 --> 00:34:13,643
is the biggest problem here.
679
00:34:13,645 --> 00:34:16,513
It was showing itself as, like,
680
00:34:16,515 --> 00:34:21,851
a huge snake like a king cobra.
681
00:34:21,853 --> 00:34:26,990
It seemed to me like this thing
had really never been human
682
00:34:26,992 --> 00:34:30,059
and was ancient,
683
00:34:30,061 --> 00:34:32,462
and it has a very big effect
684
00:34:32,464 --> 00:34:36,065
on living people.
685
00:34:36,067 --> 00:34:41,938
It can cause accidents,
and it can get physical.
686
00:34:41,940 --> 00:34:43,472
My god.
687
00:34:43,474 --> 00:34:46,142
He's coming up my legs, and I
am not gonna let him do that.
688
00:34:46,144 --> 00:34:50,346
Get off my **** legs,
like, like, right now.
689
00:34:50,348 --> 00:34:52,415
It seeps into your body.
690
00:34:52,417 --> 00:34:55,552
Ice-cold.
691
00:34:55,554 --> 00:34:56,819
I was laying there one night
692
00:34:56,821 --> 00:35:01,958
and a cold hand
touched my thigh,
693
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:05,028
and it worked its way
down to my calf.
694
00:35:05,030 --> 00:35:06,095
Yeah, it was cold.
695
00:35:09,367 --> 00:35:13,235
I didn't know that was
happening to her.
696
00:35:13,237 --> 00:35:15,538
I did have a sketch done.
697
00:35:22,313 --> 00:35:24,514
Wow.
698
00:35:30,322 --> 00:35:32,655
Wow.
699
00:35:36,460 --> 00:35:39,729
I'm pissed off.
700
00:35:39,731 --> 00:35:43,733
I'm very upset
701
00:35:43,735 --> 00:35:45,935
that it's doing
that to my mother.
702
00:35:49,674 --> 00:35:53,542
I was sitting on the bed and had
that other door shut,
703
00:35:53,544 --> 00:35:57,747
and then I heard wings
flapping toward my bedroom,
704
00:35:57,749 --> 00:36:01,484
and it flew into the door
and pushed me on the bed,
705
00:36:01,486 --> 00:36:05,888
and the force held me
on the he bed so hard,
706
00:36:05,890 --> 00:36:07,423
it was hard to breathe,
707
00:36:07,425 --> 00:36:10,093
and I could actually feel
my eyes rolling back in my head,
708
00:36:10,095 --> 00:36:12,361
and I couldn't talk.
709
00:36:12,363 --> 00:36:13,896
Now, does any of that
what she's saying
710
00:36:13,898 --> 00:36:16,098
make any sense to you?
711
00:36:16,100 --> 00:36:18,968
Yeah.
712
00:36:18,970 --> 00:36:20,903
You know, it's kind of hard
to see what this thing
713
00:36:20,905 --> 00:36:22,905
really looks
like from this sketch.
714
00:36:22,907 --> 00:36:24,373
Did you get a better look
at this thing?
715
00:36:24,375 --> 00:36:26,375
I had its face sketched.
716
00:36:26,377 --> 00:36:27,844
The face, okay.
717
00:36:39,858 --> 00:36:42,125
My god.
718
00:36:48,799 --> 00:36:50,667
Wow.
719
00:36:50,669 --> 00:36:52,402
It looks pure evil.
720
00:37:00,278 --> 00:37:03,145
This thing can make people have,
721
00:37:03,147 --> 00:37:07,817
you know,
extremely bizarre thoughts,
722
00:37:07,819 --> 00:37:10,753
hallucinations, acting out,
723
00:37:10,755 --> 00:37:13,756
bizarre behaviors,
all of that.
724
00:37:13,758 --> 00:37:15,692
The stuff that happened
at the boy's reformatory,
725
00:37:15,694 --> 00:37:17,694
the sheriff getting hit
and stuff like that,
726
00:37:17,696 --> 00:37:20,296
could that have been
caused by this thing? Yes.
727
00:37:20,298 --> 00:37:22,432
Any violence that goes on in
and around here
728
00:37:22,434 --> 00:37:27,036
is caused directly by this,
by this thing.
729
00:37:27,038 --> 00:37:28,972
What the hell does this thing
want from these guys?
730
00:37:28,974 --> 00:37:33,976
Its ultimate goal is
to make people zombies,
731
00:37:33,978 --> 00:37:37,646
and it does this by planting
seeds in the living.
732
00:37:37,648 --> 00:37:40,316
It'll influence them
to do things
733
00:37:40,318 --> 00:37:44,987
that they wouldn't normally do.
734
00:37:44,989 --> 00:37:47,656
My god.
735
00:37:47,658 --> 00:37:49,391
I'm scared to leave her
at home by herself now
736
00:37:49,393 --> 00:37:51,861
that I know what's going on.
737
00:37:51,863 --> 00:37:53,863
What the hell is this thing?
738
00:37:53,865 --> 00:37:57,266
Well, like a demon-devil.
739
00:37:57,268 --> 00:38:01,671
You know,
this is true **** evil.
740
00:38:01,673 --> 00:38:02,805
I knew it wasn't good,
741
00:38:02,807 --> 00:38:06,609
but I would've
never expected this bad.
742
00:38:06,611 --> 00:38:11,214
This is even worse than
I what I had in my mind.
743
00:38:11,216 --> 00:38:13,082
I'm sorry. I need a minute.
744
00:38:53,923 --> 00:38:56,724
So, Christy, I've done
over 150 of these cases,
745
00:38:56,726 --> 00:39:00,128
and I can't tell you
how many people think they know
746
00:39:00,130 --> 00:39:03,197
what's going on
in their own home.
747
00:39:03,199 --> 00:39:07,601
Unfortunately, in this case,
you were right on the money,
748
00:39:07,603 --> 00:39:10,071
so now we're gonna
answer the big question.
749
00:39:10,073 --> 00:39:13,007
Can you stay and fight it
like you want to,
750
00:39:13,009 --> 00:39:15,009
or do you need to pack up
and get out?
751
00:39:15,011 --> 00:39:16,543
For that answer, I'm gonna
turn it over to Amy.
752
00:39:20,951 --> 00:39:25,886
So this thing has done damage
753
00:39:25,888 --> 00:39:28,956
for a very long time,
754
00:39:28,958 --> 00:39:31,359
and Christy,
his plan for you
755
00:39:31,361 --> 00:39:36,364
is to just get rid of you,
kill you off.
756
00:39:36,366 --> 00:39:39,434
Steve, he says
he can control you.
757
00:39:39,436 --> 00:39:41,969
He's behind you, beside you.
758
00:39:41,971 --> 00:39:45,172
He wants all of you
and that he's almost there.
759
00:39:49,779 --> 00:39:53,114
For you, Tiffany,
760
00:39:53,116 --> 00:39:55,450
he said he enjoys you
761
00:39:55,452 --> 00:39:59,654
and that you're next,
that he'll come for you,
762
00:39:59,656 --> 00:40:03,390
and there is a small seed
already inside of your body.
763
00:40:03,392 --> 00:40:05,726
- My god.
- No, no.
764
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,667
So how do we stop it,
or can we stop it?
765
00:40:16,005 --> 00:40:19,007
Okay.
So here's the thing, Tiffany.
766
00:40:19,009 --> 00:40:23,478
The seed and the attachment
need to be removed
767
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:26,614
by a Native American shaman
768
00:40:26,616 --> 00:40:30,151
and that once this is done,
you can never return here.
769
00:40:35,224 --> 00:40:39,427
Steve,
you need a purification
770
00:40:39,429 --> 00:40:42,029
and blessing ceremony.
771
00:40:44,367 --> 00:40:45,967
You can never return after.
772
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:55,109
And then, Christy,
773
00:40:55,111 --> 00:40:59,047
you definitely need to move
as soon as possible.
774
00:40:59,049 --> 00:41:02,316
I'm sorry.
I'm really sorry.
775
00:41:02,318 --> 00:41:06,454
You okay, Tiff?
776
00:41:06,456 --> 00:41:10,591
I'm scared. I'm upset.
777
00:41:10,593 --> 00:41:13,661
I'm...I don't know
what to feel right now.
778
00:41:24,073 --> 00:41:25,540
So if they do all of this,
779
00:41:25,542 --> 00:41:29,077
will they eventually get back
to being a normal family?
780
00:41:29,079 --> 00:41:32,880
Yes.
781
00:41:32,882 --> 00:41:35,750
I get my mom back,
and if she has to move...
782
00:41:35,752 --> 00:41:40,154
- We'll start over elsewhere.
- Okay.
783
00:41:40,156 --> 00:41:41,689
You promise me you're gonna
listen to what she said?
784
00:41:41,691 --> 00:41:42,756
- Exactly.
-100%.
785
00:41:42,758 --> 00:41:43,891
- That's a promise.
- I understand.
786
00:41:43,893 --> 00:41:45,493
It's gonna happen.
It's gonna happen.
787
00:41:45,495 --> 00:41:46,960
Okay.
788
00:41:46,962 --> 00:41:51,899
My mom means everything to me,
so I appreciate y'all.
789
00:41:51,901 --> 00:41:55,703
It's never easy telling a family
to leave their home,
790
00:41:55,705 --> 00:42:00,241
but in a situation as dangerous
as this, it's their only option.
791
00:42:00,243 --> 00:42:04,912
Hopefully, they take my advice,
leave this demon behind
792
00:42:04,914 --> 00:42:08,382
and get a fresh
start someplace new.
793
00:42:12,388 --> 00:42:15,123
Hi, our house is under contract
to sell.
794
00:42:15,125 --> 00:42:17,257
We have followed Amy's advice,
795
00:42:17,259 --> 00:42:20,194
and we're looking forward
to moving into a new home
796
00:42:20,196 --> 00:42:22,864
and having our grandkids
come stay with us again,
797
00:42:22,866 --> 00:42:25,533
so we're just hoping
for a new beginning
798
00:42:25,535 --> 00:42:43,150
and to be able to start over.
799
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:47,750
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