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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:10,811 --> 00:00:14,012 He's fixated on making people zombies. 2 00:00:14,014 --> 00:00:15,948 He overwhelms them. 3 00:00:15,950 --> 00:00:17,883 He was trying to take over my body. 4 00:00:17,885 --> 00:00:19,951 You can't be comfortable bringing your kids here. 5 00:00:19,953 --> 00:00:21,220 I'm not. 6 00:00:21,222 --> 00:00:25,157 Your soul is battling against the darkness. 7 00:00:25,159 --> 00:00:26,291 It's a demon. 8 00:00:26,293 --> 00:00:29,628 It's Satan. 9 00:00:29,630 --> 00:00:31,363 This is true evil. 10 00:00:33,434 --> 00:00:35,700 It doesn't end well here 11 00:00:35,702 --> 00:00:38,370 and I just feel fear. 12 00:00:38,372 --> 00:00:40,505 My name is Amy Allan. 13 00:00:40,507 --> 00:00:43,842 This is like Grand Central Station for the dead. 14 00:00:43,844 --> 00:00:44,976 I see dead people. 15 00:00:44,978 --> 00:00:47,179 They have pain that they suffered. 16 00:00:47,181 --> 00:00:49,181 I speak to dead people. 17 00:00:49,183 --> 00:00:51,983 She hates them, hates them. 18 00:00:51,985 --> 00:00:55,921 And they speak to me, but there's only one way to know 19 00:00:55,923 --> 00:00:57,656 if my findings are real. 20 00:00:57,658 --> 00:00:58,991 It's a demon. 21 00:00:58,993 --> 00:01:01,259 It's Satan. 22 00:01:01,261 --> 00:01:02,794 I rely on my partner. 23 00:01:02,796 --> 00:01:04,396 I'm Steve DiSchiavi. 24 00:01:04,398 --> 00:01:06,598 I'm a retired New York City homicide detective. 25 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:07,933 What was the body count? What happened? 26 00:01:07,935 --> 00:01:11,737 And I know every person, every house has secrets. 27 00:01:11,739 --> 00:01:13,004 I don't know if it's a demon or not, 28 00:01:13,006 --> 00:01:14,673 but it sure as hell looks like one. 29 00:01:14,675 --> 00:01:16,275 It's my job to reveal them. 30 00:01:16,277 --> 00:01:18,743 I feel like I'm crazy. 31 00:01:18,745 --> 00:01:20,612 But Steve and I never speak... 32 00:01:20,614 --> 00:01:22,614 We never communicate during and investigation. 33 00:01:22,616 --> 00:01:24,149 ...until the very end. 34 00:01:24,151 --> 00:01:25,984 All right. I want to show you this. 35 00:01:25,986 --> 00:01:28,286 When we uncover if it's safe for you to stay... 36 00:01:28,288 --> 00:01:30,622 I just don't want anything to happen to my mother. 37 00:01:30,624 --> 00:01:32,223 ...or time to get out. 38 00:01:32,225 --> 00:01:33,826 You have to get out. 39 00:01:47,775 --> 00:01:49,574 So I'm out here in Gatesville, Texas. 40 00:01:49,576 --> 00:01:51,777 It's about an hour west of Waco. 41 00:01:51,779 --> 00:01:54,313 I got a call from a woman named Christy. 42 00:01:54,315 --> 00:01:56,581 Now, she sounded pretty upset on the phone, 43 00:01:56,583 --> 00:01:59,918 and she tells me the activity in her house is out of control. 44 00:01:59,920 --> 00:02:01,653 Listening to her story broke my heart, 45 00:02:01,655 --> 00:02:06,458 and I'm hoping there's something Amy and I can do to help. 46 00:02:06,460 --> 00:02:09,994 Before Amy arrives, I look for any leading information. 47 00:02:09,996 --> 00:02:14,332 Photographs, children's toys, and even military medals 48 00:02:14,334 --> 00:02:16,335 can influence her findings. 49 00:02:16,337 --> 00:02:19,872 So it's important I cover or remove them all. 50 00:02:19,874 --> 00:02:22,807 When I'm done, the location will be ready for tonight's walk. 51 00:02:32,753 --> 00:02:36,688 This place has extreme negative energy. 52 00:02:36,690 --> 00:02:41,226 There's this huge snake, like, a human-sized king cobra. 53 00:02:45,432 --> 00:02:48,500 He's all about control. 54 00:02:48,502 --> 00:02:51,236 What I'm seeing is, 55 00:02:51,238 --> 00:02:55,840 this thing has been here a long time. 56 00:02:55,842 --> 00:02:58,042 It's a battle to live here. 57 00:02:58,044 --> 00:03:02,447 Your soul is battling against the darkness. 58 00:03:12,125 --> 00:03:13,458 So, Christy, I'm glad I'm here 59 00:03:13,460 --> 00:03:15,794 because when we talked on the phone, 60 00:03:15,796 --> 00:03:17,596 you sounded really upset. 61 00:03:17,598 --> 00:03:19,064 It feels like hell here. 62 00:03:19,066 --> 00:03:21,466 You don't want to come home... 63 00:03:23,470 --> 00:03:26,405 ...because the minute you walk in that door, 64 00:03:26,407 --> 00:03:29,207 you're being emotionally attacked, emotionally drained. 65 00:03:29,209 --> 00:03:31,542 We moved here in 2012. 66 00:03:31,544 --> 00:03:34,412 So, Christy, who lives in the house now? 67 00:03:34,414 --> 00:03:37,950 Right now, just my husband and I, Steve. 68 00:03:37,952 --> 00:03:40,419 - Okay. - And these are my two girls. 69 00:03:40,421 --> 00:03:43,555 My daughter Tiffany, she lived with us for a little while, 70 00:03:43,557 --> 00:03:45,757 and this is my daughter Jessica, 71 00:03:45,759 --> 00:03:49,294 but I'm most concerned about my grandkids. 72 00:03:49,296 --> 00:03:50,629 What's going on with the grandkids? 73 00:03:50,631 --> 00:03:53,332 They say there's a mean man in the back room. 74 00:03:53,334 --> 00:03:55,433 I made that area, so they could play back there and have fun, 75 00:03:55,435 --> 00:03:57,369 but they're too scared to play in there. 76 00:03:57,371 --> 00:04:00,972 I think whatever's here hates kids. 77 00:04:00,974 --> 00:04:02,307 So that's got to kill you as a grandmother. 78 00:04:02,309 --> 00:04:04,843 It does. It really, really, really does. 79 00:04:04,845 --> 00:04:06,311 What do you think is going on here? 80 00:04:06,313 --> 00:04:09,314 Whatever is here is evil, and in my heart of hearts, 81 00:04:09,316 --> 00:04:11,049 I feel like it's a demon. 82 00:04:11,051 --> 00:04:14,786 Well, I hope it's not, but if you're right, it's an issue. 83 00:04:14,788 --> 00:04:16,054 Yes, sir. 84 00:04:16,056 --> 00:04:17,856 So do me a favor and give me an idea 85 00:04:17,858 --> 00:04:19,791 of what you guys are experiencing. 86 00:04:19,793 --> 00:04:24,195 Being held down, being pushed, scratches, 87 00:04:24,197 --> 00:04:27,666 mood swings, health issues. 88 00:04:27,668 --> 00:04:29,935 Now, you mentioned mood swings. What are we talking about? 89 00:04:29,937 --> 00:04:32,137 Ever been so scared, 90 00:04:32,139 --> 00:04:35,874 it's like a fear that you just want to cry? 91 00:04:35,876 --> 00:04:38,610 When you leave here, do you feel better? 92 00:04:38,612 --> 00:04:40,612 I mean, do you go to work? 93 00:04:40,614 --> 00:04:44,082 I used to work at the female maximum-security prison 94 00:04:44,084 --> 00:04:46,618 right down the street, and I can't work anymore 95 00:04:46,620 --> 00:04:48,486 because of my health issues. 96 00:04:48,488 --> 00:04:49,688 Okay. 97 00:04:49,690 --> 00:04:51,489 So there's a female prison down the block? 98 00:04:51,491 --> 00:04:53,759 - Yeah, right down the street. - Okay. 99 00:04:53,761 --> 00:04:54,960 That might be something I want to look into. 100 00:04:54,962 --> 00:04:57,095 So let me ask you a question. 101 00:04:57,097 --> 00:04:58,163 Why didn't you just sell this place 102 00:04:58,165 --> 00:04:59,698 and get the hell out of here? 103 00:04:59,700 --> 00:05:02,634 What's to say that whatever is here doesn't follow me? 104 00:05:02,636 --> 00:05:04,569 This is supposed to be our forever home. 105 00:05:04,571 --> 00:05:06,304 It's not supposed to be a house of nightmares. 106 00:05:11,445 --> 00:05:15,714 I am not welcome here. 107 00:05:15,716 --> 00:05:18,449 This place sucks up energy, man. 108 00:05:18,451 --> 00:05:21,186 It's just like a cesspool. 109 00:05:21,188 --> 00:05:23,521 I'm getting pushed out. 110 00:05:23,523 --> 00:05:26,591 It's, like, right in my gut, 111 00:05:26,593 --> 00:05:30,195 and it's physically pushing me back, 112 00:05:30,197 --> 00:05:34,199 which make me feel nervous. 113 00:05:34,201 --> 00:05:35,533 The snake, that thing, it is manipulating people 114 00:05:35,535 --> 00:05:37,001 and what they're seeing. 115 00:05:37,003 --> 00:05:41,339 It makes you, like, have bizarre thoughts, bizarre behaviors. 116 00:05:41,341 --> 00:05:45,543 You probably aren't thinking quite rationally. 117 00:05:45,545 --> 00:05:47,546 Do you know what this thing is? 118 00:05:47,548 --> 00:05:50,549 I think, like, people think, like, it's Satan. 119 00:05:53,887 --> 00:05:54,953 It's evil. 120 00:05:54,955 --> 00:05:57,088 It's a demon. 121 00:06:03,096 --> 00:06:05,497 Okay. So what's going on in here? 122 00:06:05,499 --> 00:06:08,499 I felt someone sitting on the edge of my bed, 123 00:06:08,501 --> 00:06:11,503 just like this, and then it got right back up, 124 00:06:11,505 --> 00:06:14,639 and you could actually see it release. 125 00:06:14,641 --> 00:06:17,242 Okay. Would you say it was an adult? 126 00:06:17,244 --> 00:06:19,711 - It felt like a man. - Okay. 127 00:06:19,713 --> 00:06:21,145 - Was Steve in bed with you? - No. 128 00:06:21,147 --> 00:06:22,514 He had already left for work. 129 00:06:22,516 --> 00:06:23,714 All right. Anything else? 130 00:06:23,716 --> 00:06:27,719 I have woken up with scratches on my arm. 131 00:06:27,721 --> 00:06:29,521 There were three scratches. 132 00:06:29,523 --> 00:06:30,922 Is it possible you did it yourself? 133 00:06:30,924 --> 00:06:33,525 No. No. My nails aren't that long. 134 00:06:33,527 --> 00:06:36,127 All right, so I can't think of an explanation. 135 00:06:36,129 --> 00:06:37,662 - Anything else? - Yeah. 136 00:06:37,664 --> 00:06:39,264 Something touched on my leg. 137 00:06:39,266 --> 00:06:40,365 How? 138 00:06:40,367 --> 00:06:44,001 Like this and on my calf, too. 139 00:06:44,003 --> 00:06:45,337 What'd it feel like, a man's hand, a woman? 140 00:06:45,339 --> 00:06:47,338 Like a man's hand, like a caress. 141 00:06:47,340 --> 00:06:49,541 It was inappropriate, and it was cold. 142 00:06:53,347 --> 00:06:55,346 My god. He's got -- 143 00:06:55,348 --> 00:06:56,948 Okay, just a sec because he's coming up. 144 00:06:56,950 --> 00:06:58,617 He's coming up my legs and arm. 145 00:06:58,619 --> 00:07:00,952 I'm not gonna let him do that. 146 00:07:00,954 --> 00:07:03,021 Just a sec. 147 00:07:03,023 --> 00:07:08,226 Get off my **** legs, like, like, right now, please. 148 00:07:08,228 --> 00:07:10,695 It seeps into your body. 149 00:07:10,697 --> 00:07:14,566 Ice, ice, ice-cold. 150 00:07:14,568 --> 00:07:19,571 I think that people have been hurt here. 151 00:07:22,575 --> 00:07:23,842 Has anything else happened in here? 152 00:07:23,844 --> 00:07:25,043 I was laying here one night. 153 00:07:25,045 --> 00:07:28,980 I could hear wings and as it came toward me, 154 00:07:28,982 --> 00:07:30,448 it pushed me back on the bed. 155 00:07:30,450 --> 00:07:33,451 I felt like it was trying to take over my body. 156 00:07:33,453 --> 00:07:35,653 I mean, I could actually feel my eyes being rolled 157 00:07:35,655 --> 00:07:36,922 in the back of my head. 158 00:07:36,924 --> 00:07:38,723 What did you do when that happened? 159 00:07:38,725 --> 00:07:40,792 I kept saying, "I need to say, 'No.' 160 00:07:40,794 --> 00:07:43,929 I need to say, 'No,'" and when I did, whoosh. 161 00:07:43,931 --> 00:07:45,930 It receded and went back in the back of the house, 162 00:07:45,932 --> 00:07:49,601 but you could still hear the wings flapping. 163 00:07:49,603 --> 00:07:51,069 I was so scared, I cried. 164 00:07:51,071 --> 00:07:53,138 - What did you think it was? - I felt it was demonic. 165 00:07:53,140 --> 00:07:55,273 I feel like it was trying to take over my body. 166 00:07:55,275 --> 00:07:57,475 I'm hoping that's not the case because if it is, 167 00:07:57,477 --> 00:08:01,746 then it's a lot worse than we thought. 168 00:08:01,748 --> 00:08:04,415 This snake thing, it's, like, big. 169 00:08:04,417 --> 00:08:06,351 I can't put my arms around it, 170 00:08:06,353 --> 00:08:10,956 and he knows where you're weak. 171 00:08:10,958 --> 00:08:14,226 And then part of him, part of him goes with you, 172 00:08:14,228 --> 00:08:15,726 like a seed, you know? 173 00:08:15,728 --> 00:08:18,763 It can infect you, and then you go off and do really bad 174 00:08:18,765 --> 00:08:20,197 **** here. 175 00:08:20,199 --> 00:08:23,702 He's, like, fixated on making people zombies. 176 00:08:23,704 --> 00:08:25,036 They can do his bidding. 177 00:08:25,038 --> 00:08:27,305 I feel like it's trying to control me. 178 00:08:31,778 --> 00:08:35,647 He's jacking up my head, and it hurts. 179 00:08:35,649 --> 00:08:38,850 He's torturing living people. 180 00:08:49,663 --> 00:08:51,529 So, Jessica, I just got finished talking to Mom. 181 00:08:51,531 --> 00:08:53,064 Are you aware of how bad things are? 182 00:08:53,066 --> 00:08:55,667 - Yes, very much aware. - Okay. 183 00:08:55,669 --> 00:08:58,736 So I understand you're Christy's daughter with the kids. 184 00:08:58,738 --> 00:09:00,539 Yes. 185 00:09:00,541 --> 00:09:02,474 I have four, three boys and a girl. 186 00:09:02,476 --> 00:09:04,809 You can't be comfortable bringing your kids here. 187 00:09:04,811 --> 00:09:05,944 I'm not. 188 00:09:05,946 --> 00:09:08,079 It's very hard. It really is. 189 00:09:08,081 --> 00:09:09,748 Now, you've never lived here. 190 00:09:09,750 --> 00:09:11,749 No. You couldn't make me live here. 191 00:09:11,751 --> 00:09:12,884 Okay. 192 00:09:12,886 --> 00:09:14,819 So have you had your own experiences? 193 00:09:14,821 --> 00:09:16,154 - Yes, I have. - Okay. 194 00:09:16,156 --> 00:09:17,622 So let's talk about some of them. 195 00:09:17,624 --> 00:09:21,026 One time, I felt an icy caress down my back. 196 00:09:21,028 --> 00:09:22,561 Okay, so where were you when this happened? 197 00:09:22,563 --> 00:09:25,363 - I was in the back playroom. - Okay. 198 00:09:25,365 --> 00:09:28,300 There was no one else in the room besides me, 199 00:09:28,302 --> 00:09:31,569 and it sent, like, a cold shot through my body. 200 00:09:31,571 --> 00:09:33,705 Like, I felt it from head to toe. 201 00:09:33,707 --> 00:09:35,173 Okay. Anything else? 202 00:09:35,175 --> 00:09:38,510 In this room, I saw something that I just can't explain. 203 00:09:38,512 --> 00:09:40,177 Okay. Tell me what it looked like. 204 00:09:40,179 --> 00:09:41,513 The only way I can think to describe them 205 00:09:41,515 --> 00:09:45,249 are gremlin-like creatures crawling across the ceiling. 206 00:09:45,251 --> 00:09:49,120 There were four of them, and they had four legs. 207 00:09:49,122 --> 00:09:50,388 And you're positive it wasn't 208 00:09:50,390 --> 00:09:52,123 some kind of reflection from outside? 209 00:09:52,125 --> 00:09:54,592 My mom keeps the blinds in here closed. 210 00:09:54,594 --> 00:09:56,194 I have to ask you. I mean, after seeing that, 211 00:09:56,196 --> 00:09:58,596 why did you bring kids back here after that? 212 00:09:58,598 --> 00:10:00,297 Because as hard as it is to come here, 213 00:10:00,299 --> 00:10:02,400 I don't want to cost them the opportunity 214 00:10:02,402 --> 00:10:05,737 to spend time with my parents, and I love my mother very much. 215 00:10:05,739 --> 00:10:11,543 I think that whatever is here is draining the life from her. 216 00:10:11,545 --> 00:10:14,545 I think it's trying to kill her. 217 00:10:14,547 --> 00:10:17,682 Okay. 218 00:10:17,684 --> 00:10:20,618 How might the living here be affected by this thing? 219 00:10:20,620 --> 00:10:24,956 I think they could become violent. 220 00:10:24,958 --> 00:10:28,292 I think they could become depressed. 221 00:10:28,294 --> 00:10:30,361 It would be bad. 222 00:10:30,363 --> 00:10:33,898 It doesn't end well here for living people. 223 00:10:59,590 --> 00:11:03,259 So, Tiffany, things are pretty bad in this house. 224 00:11:03,261 --> 00:11:04,727 Yes, very bad. 225 00:11:04,729 --> 00:11:07,396 I can see that you're upset, but why did you think 226 00:11:07,398 --> 00:11:09,398 it was important to talk in this room? 227 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:11,868 I used to live here, and I stayed in this room. 228 00:11:11,870 --> 00:11:13,736 Okay, so this place has bad memories for you? 229 00:11:13,738 --> 00:11:15,471 Yes. 230 00:11:15,473 --> 00:11:17,874 Okay. You okay? 231 00:11:17,876 --> 00:11:20,076 I feel very emotional and scared back here. 232 00:11:20,078 --> 00:11:21,410 Okay. All right. 233 00:11:21,412 --> 00:11:24,080 - Sorry. - No, no. It's okay. Relax. 234 00:11:24,082 --> 00:11:26,082 It's all right. No, no, no, no. 235 00:11:26,084 --> 00:11:28,617 It's okay. 236 00:11:28,619 --> 00:11:30,753 Nothing's gonna happen to you while I'm here. 237 00:11:30,755 --> 00:11:32,355 Trust me on that. 238 00:11:32,357 --> 00:11:33,556 That makes me feel better. 239 00:11:33,558 --> 00:11:35,224 Yeah, good. All right? 240 00:11:35,226 --> 00:11:38,293 Take me through some of the experiences you had. 241 00:11:38,295 --> 00:11:40,963 In certain areas, there's cold spots. 242 00:11:40,965 --> 00:11:43,499 Okay, now, there's a vent right above you there. 243 00:11:43,501 --> 00:11:45,634 Could that explain it? 244 00:11:45,636 --> 00:11:46,869 No. 245 00:11:46,871 --> 00:11:48,237 The heat would be on. 246 00:11:48,239 --> 00:11:49,505 And how cold are we talking? 247 00:11:49,507 --> 00:11:51,574 Like, freezer cold. 248 00:11:51,576 --> 00:11:54,644 Okay. Anything else? 249 00:11:54,646 --> 00:11:58,448 When I laid down to go to sleep, and all of a sudden, 250 00:11:58,450 --> 00:12:02,118 I heard a male whisper in my ear my name. 251 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:04,921 - What was the voice like? - It'd been in an aggressive way. 252 00:12:04,923 --> 00:12:07,857 It went like, "Tiffany!" 253 00:12:07,859 --> 00:12:09,392 Anything else? 254 00:12:09,394 --> 00:12:10,926 I had a dream... 255 00:12:10,928 --> 00:12:12,128 Okay. 256 00:12:12,130 --> 00:12:15,397 ...of a little girl standing over me. 257 00:12:15,399 --> 00:12:17,199 Describe the girl to me. 258 00:12:17,201 --> 00:12:19,001 She was, like, about 6 or 7. 259 00:12:19,003 --> 00:12:23,672 She had long blonde hair, and her eyes were solid black. 260 00:12:23,674 --> 00:12:25,007 You worried about Mom as well? 261 00:12:25,009 --> 00:12:27,210 Very worried about her, 262 00:12:27,212 --> 00:12:30,480 and I couldn't stand it if anything happened to her. 263 00:12:30,482 --> 00:12:33,549 Well, we're gonna make sure nothing does, okay? 264 00:12:33,551 --> 00:12:35,818 - I hope so. - All right. 265 00:12:42,293 --> 00:12:46,028 I'm seeing a little girl. 266 00:12:46,030 --> 00:12:50,566 She is a dead person, and she's probably, 267 00:12:50,568 --> 00:12:52,901 I don't know, maybe even, like, 8 or 9? 268 00:12:58,977 --> 00:13:02,044 I do get that the dead little girl comes in here a lot. 269 00:13:05,049 --> 00:13:09,185 That she likes to get on the bed. 270 00:13:09,187 --> 00:13:11,320 She crawls up on it. 271 00:13:20,130 --> 00:13:21,998 - Hey, Steve. - How you doing? 272 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:23,332 Good. You got a moment to chat? 273 00:13:23,334 --> 00:13:25,601 - Yes, I do. - All right, great. 274 00:13:25,603 --> 00:13:29,305 So, Steve, a lot of male clients are pretty skeptical. 275 00:13:29,307 --> 00:13:30,540 How about you? 276 00:13:30,542 --> 00:13:31,941 I was at first. 277 00:13:31,943 --> 00:13:33,208 What changed your mind? 278 00:13:33,210 --> 00:13:34,877 I was sitting out on the porch one night, 279 00:13:34,879 --> 00:13:37,680 and I heard a man clearing his throat. 280 00:13:37,682 --> 00:13:39,348 I know this place is pretty remote, 281 00:13:39,350 --> 00:13:40,482 and nobody really around here, 282 00:13:40,484 --> 00:13:42,552 but could it have been some transient guy 283 00:13:42,554 --> 00:13:44,152 maybe just walking through? 284 00:13:44,154 --> 00:13:46,689 Possible, that's why I grabbed the flashlight, 285 00:13:46,691 --> 00:13:48,557 got in my truck, drove around the property 286 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:50,560 to look but didn't see anything. 287 00:13:50,562 --> 00:13:51,827 All right. Anything else? 288 00:13:51,829 --> 00:13:53,829 We have a doll. 289 00:13:53,831 --> 00:13:56,566 The doll has a hat. 290 00:13:56,568 --> 00:13:59,302 The hat was found in the hallway 291 00:13:59,304 --> 00:14:01,837 on two different occasions on the same day. 292 00:14:01,839 --> 00:14:03,506 And you don't have any animals that might grab 293 00:14:03,508 --> 00:14:04,907 the hat off the doll and... 294 00:14:04,909 --> 00:14:06,108 - No animals. - ...walk away with it? 295 00:14:06,110 --> 00:14:08,043 No animals. 296 00:14:08,045 --> 00:14:09,912 So I was talking to your wife, 297 00:14:09,914 --> 00:14:12,515 and I tell you, pretty upsetting what she's going through. 298 00:14:12,517 --> 00:14:14,049 I mean, how are you dealing with that? 299 00:14:14,051 --> 00:14:16,452 I feel totally helpless. 300 00:14:16,454 --> 00:14:18,120 She can be cheery one minute, 301 00:14:18,122 --> 00:14:21,056 and then she spends some time being depressed. 302 00:14:21,058 --> 00:14:23,659 If Amy says to leave, what are you gonna do? 303 00:14:23,661 --> 00:14:24,860 We're gonna get out. 304 00:14:24,862 --> 00:14:27,596 For the safety of my family, we will do that. 305 00:14:27,598 --> 00:14:30,867 Okay. 306 00:14:30,869 --> 00:14:36,806 I feel very, very anxious, like really stressed out back here. 307 00:14:36,808 --> 00:14:41,944 I'm seeing this crying man. 308 00:14:41,946 --> 00:14:43,946 You know, he's just, like, freaking out. 309 00:14:47,752 --> 00:14:51,954 Really, like, super high energy anxious dude. 310 00:14:51,956 --> 00:14:54,824 The crying man is back here. 311 00:14:54,826 --> 00:14:59,362 I think that the living 312 00:14:59,364 --> 00:15:02,097 would experience 313 00:15:02,099 --> 00:15:05,101 his extreme anxiety, 314 00:15:05,103 --> 00:15:07,036 his emotional state. 315 00:15:11,175 --> 00:15:13,642 I also think they would hear him. 316 00:15:13,644 --> 00:15:16,178 He's very loud. 317 00:15:16,180 --> 00:15:18,113 He's very physical. 318 00:15:20,851 --> 00:15:22,852 So movement of objectives. 319 00:15:22,854 --> 00:15:24,854 It's not found in the same spot, 320 00:15:24,856 --> 00:15:28,724 which may cause them to second-guess themselves. 321 00:15:28,726 --> 00:15:30,926 I think it would make you crazy. 322 00:15:30,928 --> 00:15:34,463 I'm feeling death right now. 323 00:15:54,851 --> 00:15:56,250 This place is so small, 324 00:15:56,252 --> 00:15:59,186 it makes the middle of nowhere seem exciting. 325 00:15:59,188 --> 00:16:00,588 So I made my usual calls 326 00:16:00,590 --> 00:16:02,656 and just heard back from the county sheriff. 327 00:16:02,658 --> 00:16:06,460 Now, he knows all about Steve and Christy's property 328 00:16:06,462 --> 00:16:09,396 and says the land used to be owned by another sheriff, 329 00:16:09,398 --> 00:16:12,733 that is until he lost everything during an arrest gone bad. 330 00:16:20,075 --> 00:16:21,808 Now, you mentioned on the phone that one of the owners 331 00:16:21,810 --> 00:16:24,278 of my clients' land was also a sheriff. 332 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:26,747 Yes, sir. His name was Walter Hollingsworth. 333 00:16:26,749 --> 00:16:29,816 He's very well-liked within the town 334 00:16:29,818 --> 00:16:31,619 You know, they describe him as a tall man 335 00:16:31,621 --> 00:16:32,820 with a lot of nervous energy. 336 00:16:32,822 --> 00:16:35,423 In 1908, he married his wife, 337 00:16:35,425 --> 00:16:36,890 Birdie, and the two of them of them 338 00:16:36,892 --> 00:16:39,960 eventually had five kids. 339 00:16:39,962 --> 00:16:42,163 Okay, so now, before he comes the sheriff, 340 00:16:42,165 --> 00:16:44,098 was he a deputy or anything like that? No, sir. 341 00:16:44,100 --> 00:16:47,101 Sheriff Hollingsworth was a really religious guy. 342 00:16:47,103 --> 00:16:48,902 He was known as a preacher. 343 00:16:48,904 --> 00:16:52,906 Sheriff Hollingsworth decided to run for sheriff in 1914. 344 00:16:52,908 --> 00:16:54,842 He believed that he could do more good 345 00:16:54,844 --> 00:16:58,446 as a lawman than a preacher. 346 00:16:58,448 --> 00:16:59,647 So now, you mentioned on the phone 347 00:16:59,649 --> 00:17:00,981 that things went pretty bad for him 348 00:17:00,983 --> 00:17:02,383 when an arrest went wrong. 349 00:17:02,385 --> 00:17:03,584 What happened? 350 00:17:03,586 --> 00:17:05,653 I'm sure, Steve, when you was driving in, 351 00:17:05,655 --> 00:17:07,854 you noticed close to your clients' property 352 00:17:07,856 --> 00:17:10,524 that there was a woman's prison out there. 353 00:17:10,526 --> 00:17:13,928 Used to be a boy's reformatory school. 354 00:17:13,930 --> 00:17:14,995 Okay. 355 00:17:14,997 --> 00:17:18,332 In 1931, there was a subject in the jail 356 00:17:18,334 --> 00:17:21,002 that was very mentally unstable. 357 00:17:21,004 --> 00:17:23,671 Well, Sheriff Hollingsworth went back to try to subdue him, 358 00:17:23,673 --> 00:17:25,072 and during the fight, 359 00:17:25,074 --> 00:17:29,810 the jail doctor came to try to help Sheriff Hollingsworth, 360 00:17:29,812 --> 00:17:34,281 and he swung a metal pipe trying to hit the offender 361 00:17:34,283 --> 00:17:35,349 and wound up striking 362 00:17:35,351 --> 00:17:37,284 Sheriff Hollingsworth in the head. 363 00:17:37,286 --> 00:17:39,086 All right. 364 00:17:39,088 --> 00:17:41,756 So he gets hit with friendly fire from a steel pipe? 365 00:17:41,758 --> 00:17:45,359 Absolutely, and the injuries were brutal. 366 00:17:45,361 --> 00:17:47,294 - Does he die on the scene? - No. 367 00:17:47,296 --> 00:17:51,132 He actually goes to a sanitarium in Waco, 368 00:17:51,134 --> 00:17:53,234 but with all the brain swelling, 369 00:17:53,236 --> 00:17:55,770 he had to have a portion of it removed. 370 00:17:55,772 --> 00:17:57,171 All right. So what happened? 371 00:17:57,173 --> 00:18:01,042 He continued on as sheriff, and in 1933, 372 00:18:01,044 --> 00:18:03,377 he bought your clients' property. 373 00:18:03,379 --> 00:18:04,845 Okay. All right. 374 00:18:04,847 --> 00:18:06,180 But within a year, 375 00:18:06,182 --> 00:18:12,119 he died due to the complication from his injury. 376 00:18:12,121 --> 00:18:15,723 I'm seeing this crying man again. 377 00:18:15,725 --> 00:18:19,593 He's really stressed out. 378 00:18:19,595 --> 00:18:24,532 I do think, like, he was, like, really religious. 379 00:18:24,534 --> 00:18:26,133 I think he's got, like, I'm thinking 380 00:18:26,135 --> 00:18:28,202 it's the Bible with him. 381 00:18:28,204 --> 00:18:30,470 God. I feel sick.! 382 00:18:30,472 --> 00:18:32,339 He's super anxious, really, like, 383 00:18:32,341 --> 00:18:34,541 super high-energy anxious dude. 384 00:18:39,415 --> 00:18:43,016 He said the economy was really bad.- 385 00:18:43,018 --> 00:18:44,751 So he was murdered. 386 00:18:44,753 --> 00:18:47,421 But I don't know where. 387 00:18:50,360 --> 00:18:51,759 All right, so now, he's dead, 388 00:18:51,761 --> 00:18:53,994 and he's got a wife and, what, five kids? 389 00:18:53,996 --> 00:18:55,896 - Yes. - So what happened with them? 390 00:18:55,898 --> 00:18:58,432 Birdie, his wife, actually was appointed sheriff 391 00:18:58,434 --> 00:18:59,900 and completed his term. 392 00:18:59,902 --> 00:19:01,301 Female sheriff? 393 00:19:01,303 --> 00:19:05,105 The first and only female sheriff here in Coryell County. 394 00:19:05,107 --> 00:19:07,775 - Okay. - Unfortunately, money was tight. 395 00:19:07,777 --> 00:19:10,311 Right. You know, being in the middle of the Great Depression, 396 00:19:10,313 --> 00:19:12,713 she had to relinquish that property. 397 00:19:12,715 --> 00:19:17,785 She wound up dying nearby in 1953 at the age of 68, 398 00:19:17,787 --> 00:19:21,122 and that's a photo of her. 399 00:19:21,124 --> 00:19:22,523 She don't look too happy? 400 00:19:22,525 --> 00:19:24,458 No, she looks pretty hurt. 401 00:19:31,067 --> 00:19:33,868 So there is a dead woman here. 402 00:19:33,870 --> 00:19:35,803 She lived here for a long time. 403 00:19:35,805 --> 00:19:37,337 I feel like she knows this place. 404 00:19:37,339 --> 00:19:38,538 You know what I'm saying? 405 00:19:38,540 --> 00:19:41,876 And I probably say she's probably, like, 406 00:19:41,878 --> 00:19:45,946 late 70s, early 80s? 407 00:19:45,948 --> 00:19:51,151 Like, I almost want to put her in the '40s or '50s, maybe. 408 00:19:54,223 --> 00:19:59,893 She's saying the guy with the Bible outside comes inside. 409 00:19:59,895 --> 00:20:04,098 She said, "He bothers them. He bothers them a lot." 410 00:20:08,370 --> 00:20:12,773 And she's like, "He will stand there all night and just 411 00:20:12,775 --> 00:20:16,510 ****, like, preach." 412 00:20:16,512 --> 00:20:19,847 That freaks out the living people here. 413 00:20:19,849 --> 00:20:22,183 They're hearing him talking, 414 00:20:22,185 --> 00:20:25,986 and they're feeling his energy. 415 00:20:25,988 --> 00:20:28,922 They're freaking out because he overwhelms them. 416 00:20:28,924 --> 00:20:30,657 He overwhelms them. 417 00:20:41,136 --> 00:20:43,136 For more information about the show, 418 00:20:43,138 --> 00:20:44,605 and if you need us to investigate 419 00:20:44,607 --> 00:20:46,540 unexplained activity in your home... 420 00:20:46,542 --> 00:20:50,010 Please visit travelchannel.com/thedeadfiles. 421 00:20:50,012 --> 00:20:51,345 Click on "Help me, Dead Files!" 422 00:20:51,347 --> 00:20:57,952 to submit your story, and we'll help if we can. 423 00:21:06,260 --> 00:21:08,594 So here's an interesting fact about this city. 424 00:21:08,596 --> 00:21:10,929 About 15,000 people live here, 425 00:21:10,931 --> 00:21:13,132 and more than half of them are locked up. 426 00:21:13,134 --> 00:21:15,134 Now, Christy was a guard at that big prison 427 00:21:15,136 --> 00:21:17,937 down the street from her house, so I called a local author 428 00:21:17,939 --> 00:21:20,672 who said it used to be a boy's reformatory, 429 00:21:20,674 --> 00:21:22,808 and what went on there was so shocking, 430 00:21:22,810 --> 00:21:24,210 it will definitely help my case. 431 00:21:32,086 --> 00:21:33,552 Well, Dr. Bush, thanks for meeting me here. 432 00:21:33,554 --> 00:21:34,687 I appreciate that. 433 00:21:34,689 --> 00:21:37,022 Before we get to what went wrong at the school, 434 00:21:37,024 --> 00:21:38,357 how did it even start? 435 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:41,694 It opened because of a group of Christian women reformers 436 00:21:41,696 --> 00:21:44,296 who had been visiting all of the prisons in Texas 437 00:21:44,298 --> 00:21:46,298 to check on the conditions there, 438 00:21:46,300 --> 00:21:49,101 and they discovered all of these teenage boys 439 00:21:49,103 --> 00:21:51,704 in the prisons with the adult prisoners, 440 00:21:51,706 --> 00:21:55,241 so in 1889, 68 boys were transferred out of 441 00:21:55,243 --> 00:21:57,910 the Texas prisons into Gatesville, 442 00:21:57,912 --> 00:21:59,245 and I have a picture of it right here 443 00:21:59,247 --> 00:22:02,915 to give you a sense of what it looked like. 444 00:22:02,917 --> 00:22:04,316 When did it go bad? 445 00:22:04,318 --> 00:22:06,451 It started going bad pretty much right from the beginning -- 446 00:22:06,453 --> 00:22:09,121 a lot of fighting, a lot of violence, 447 00:22:09,123 --> 00:22:12,858 definitely reports of inmate rape. 448 00:22:12,860 --> 00:22:14,459 What were their living conditions like? 449 00:22:14,461 --> 00:22:16,662 They had these sort of mass-custody dorms. 450 00:22:16,664 --> 00:22:18,397 I've got a picture of one of them here. 451 00:22:18,399 --> 00:22:21,734 You can see it's just rows and rows of beds. 452 00:22:21,736 --> 00:22:24,069 It's almost like a hospital ward. 453 00:22:24,071 --> 00:22:26,071 So there's a lot of overcrowding there. 454 00:22:26,073 --> 00:22:27,539 It was really unsanitary, 455 00:22:27,541 --> 00:22:30,075 so you had disease epidemics break out. 456 00:22:30,077 --> 00:22:33,045 In 1918 when the Spanish Flu epidemic 457 00:22:33,047 --> 00:22:36,348 swept the United States, 300 boys in Gatesville 458 00:22:36,350 --> 00:22:39,284 caught it, and eight of them died. 459 00:22:39,286 --> 00:22:42,554 Another eight died in accidents, 460 00:22:42,556 --> 00:22:44,757 other sicknesses that could've been prevented 461 00:22:44,759 --> 00:22:46,491 if conditions had been better. 462 00:22:46,493 --> 00:22:48,493 What happens to their bodies? Their family take them? 463 00:22:48,495 --> 00:22:50,495 There was actually a cemetery 464 00:22:50,497 --> 00:22:53,766 that still exists on the grounds today. 465 00:22:53,768 --> 00:22:55,367 So I know it eventually closed down, 466 00:22:55,369 --> 00:22:58,036 and now, it's a women's prison, from what I understand. 467 00:22:58,038 --> 00:23:01,307 In '79, it shut down, and the very next year in 1980, 468 00:23:01,309 --> 00:23:03,308 it reopened as a women's prison. 469 00:23:07,648 --> 00:23:13,185 There's, like, all of these very old brown skeletons. 470 00:23:13,187 --> 00:23:18,857 They just are to the side of, like, this path, 471 00:23:18,859 --> 00:23:23,529 and I see a hundred men facing the road, 472 00:23:23,531 --> 00:23:26,866 and all of them turn at the same time. 473 00:23:26,868 --> 00:23:28,066 They're all men. 474 00:23:28,068 --> 00:23:29,734 They're all male, and they're pointing, 475 00:23:29,736 --> 00:23:32,738 and what they're pointing at is where the church should be, 476 00:23:32,740 --> 00:23:35,874 and all of a sudden, all these walls come up, 477 00:23:35,876 --> 00:23:38,444 like these cement walls, 478 00:23:38,446 --> 00:23:40,812 and then I feel like it was a trick, 479 00:23:40,814 --> 00:23:46,017 and I got duped, and I'm trapped. 480 00:23:46,019 --> 00:23:50,089 The snake, that thing, that man, it's causing violence. 481 00:23:50,091 --> 00:23:54,359 Any negative things that living have done here 482 00:23:54,361 --> 00:23:55,628 was because of him. 483 00:23:59,901 --> 00:24:02,701 Since the reformatory closed in 1979, 484 00:24:02,703 --> 00:24:04,369 there have got to be some people in town 485 00:24:04,371 --> 00:24:05,770 who used to be inmates there. 486 00:24:05,772 --> 00:24:08,106 So I worked the phones, talked to a bunch of the locals, 487 00:24:08,108 --> 00:24:10,375 and I finally got in touch with one guy 488 00:24:10,377 --> 00:24:12,778 who says the experience was so horrible, 489 00:24:12,780 --> 00:24:13,846 he's never gotten over it. 490 00:24:20,254 --> 00:24:21,854 Obviously, this school was a big deal 491 00:24:21,856 --> 00:24:24,256 to have a whole wing to it in this museum. 492 00:24:24,258 --> 00:24:26,792 I don't mean to pry, but I need to know if you can tell me. 493 00:24:26,794 --> 00:24:28,326 How the hell did you wind up in here? 494 00:24:28,328 --> 00:24:30,062 Truancy, believe it or not. 495 00:24:30,064 --> 00:24:31,530 All right. So let me get this straight. 496 00:24:31,532 --> 00:24:33,599 You wound up in prison because you didn't go to school? 497 00:24:33,601 --> 00:24:34,934 You skipped out of school? 498 00:24:34,936 --> 00:24:36,802 I mean would've been in jail at 11. 499 00:24:36,804 --> 00:24:39,204 What year did you get sentenced here? 1975. 500 00:24:39,206 --> 00:24:40,739 I was 15. 501 00:24:40,741 --> 00:24:43,075 I just spoke to a professor who told me 502 00:24:43,077 --> 00:24:44,676 that the conditions were barbaric there. 503 00:24:44,678 --> 00:24:45,944 What was it like when you were there? 504 00:24:45,946 --> 00:24:48,213 You could've called it a gladiator farm. 505 00:24:48,215 --> 00:24:50,816 In order to have any kind of respect 506 00:24:50,818 --> 00:24:54,486 with any of the kids there, you had to stand up for yourself. 507 00:24:54,488 --> 00:24:55,888 Otherwise, you would be eaten alive. 508 00:24:55,890 --> 00:24:58,156 And it's not something you get out of your head. 509 00:24:58,158 --> 00:25:00,226 No. I still think about that. 510 00:25:00,228 --> 00:25:02,428 Did you ever attempt to get out of this place? 511 00:25:02,430 --> 00:25:04,563 More times than I can probably count. 512 00:25:04,565 --> 00:25:06,965 Okay, when you escaped, what was it like? 513 00:25:06,967 --> 00:25:11,436 Somewhere between terrifying and exhilarating. 514 00:25:11,438 --> 00:25:13,839 Your heart is racing 100 miles an hour. 515 00:25:13,841 --> 00:25:16,508 The horsemen, we heard them as they were approaching 516 00:25:16,510 --> 00:25:18,777 because you could hear them talking on their walkie-talkies. 517 00:25:18,779 --> 00:25:22,515 You could hear the dogs baying, absolutely terrifying. 518 00:25:22,517 --> 00:25:24,183 It's the run for your life, 519 00:25:24,185 --> 00:25:26,852 and you knew that if they caught you 520 00:25:26,854 --> 00:25:30,523 that you were going to take a pretty hardcore beating 521 00:25:30,525 --> 00:25:32,257 or get killed. 522 00:25:32,259 --> 00:25:34,326 So, obviously, you got picked up. Yes. 523 00:25:34,328 --> 00:25:37,730 Unfortunately, the Coryell County Sheriff's Department, 524 00:25:37,732 --> 00:25:41,000 the state guys, they were all on top of us like crazy. 525 00:25:41,002 --> 00:25:43,335 So do you know of anyone personally 526 00:25:43,337 --> 00:25:45,938 that didn't make it back from one of these escapes? 527 00:25:45,940 --> 00:25:49,808 There was a kid on our dorm that didn't make it back. 528 00:25:49,810 --> 00:25:52,144 I believe it happened to a lot of kids. 529 00:25:52,146 --> 00:25:55,147 I believe some of them are still on the grounds. 530 00:25:55,149 --> 00:25:56,282 I really do. 531 00:25:56,284 --> 00:25:58,484 Do you think you ever got over your time here? 532 00:25:58,486 --> 00:26:00,085 No, probably not. 533 00:26:00,087 --> 00:26:02,554 It took me a long time to get to where 534 00:26:02,556 --> 00:26:05,290 I didn't sleep with one eye open. 535 00:26:05,292 --> 00:26:09,828 I think it's haunted a lot of people, and it still haunts me. 536 00:26:20,374 --> 00:26:23,642 I saw a lot of disturbing things during my walk, 537 00:26:23,644 --> 00:26:26,512 but the snakelike creature tormenting the living 538 00:26:26,514 --> 00:26:28,847 has me the most concerned. 539 00:26:28,849 --> 00:26:33,918 It was this gray nonhuman thing. 540 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:38,757 He had, like, pin-straight hair, like, an abnormally thin neck, 541 00:26:38,759 --> 00:26:43,862 leaning over a person in a bed, and he turned into a snake. 542 00:26:46,467 --> 00:26:49,267 I would make that a little bit wider... 543 00:26:49,269 --> 00:26:50,468 - Wider? - Yeah. 544 00:26:50,470 --> 00:26:52,605 ...and not too much nostril here. Okay. 545 00:26:58,946 --> 00:27:02,014 Amy, is this what you saw? 546 00:27:02,016 --> 00:27:03,415 Yes. 547 00:27:28,974 --> 00:27:31,842 Now that Amy and I have completed our investigations, 548 00:27:31,844 --> 00:27:34,711 we're ready to reveal our findings to each other 549 00:27:34,713 --> 00:27:37,581 and our clients for the first time. 550 00:27:37,583 --> 00:27:40,250 So, Amy, this is Christy, and this is her husband, Steve. 551 00:27:40,252 --> 00:27:42,785 They live here together, and this is Tiffany, 552 00:27:42,787 --> 00:27:44,254 Christy's daughter. 553 00:27:44,256 --> 00:27:46,856 Now, I got to tell you. Christy's story broke my heart. 554 00:27:46,858 --> 00:27:48,525 She believes whatever here is evil 555 00:27:48,527 --> 00:27:51,461 and hates women and children, and that's a huge problem 556 00:27:51,463 --> 00:27:54,530 because Christy has four beautiful grandchildren. 557 00:27:56,801 --> 00:27:59,669 Now, these kids visit a lot, 558 00:27:59,671 --> 00:28:01,871 so she's hoping you can show her what's here 559 00:28:01,873 --> 00:28:04,207 and how to kick it out. 560 00:28:04,209 --> 00:28:06,476 So now that Amy knows a little bit about you guys, 561 00:28:06,478 --> 00:28:08,211 she'll tell us about her walk. 562 00:28:14,886 --> 00:28:17,754 There's an extreme amount of negative energy 563 00:28:17,756 --> 00:28:20,090 here in this area. 564 00:28:20,092 --> 00:28:23,560 I was feeling multiple deaths that had occurred, 565 00:28:23,562 --> 00:28:26,029 very violent deaths that were nearby. 566 00:28:26,031 --> 00:28:31,568 I was shown a lot of really old bones, 567 00:28:31,570 --> 00:28:34,036 and they were all scattered. 568 00:28:34,038 --> 00:28:35,572 The next thing was, 569 00:28:35,574 --> 00:28:40,444 I saw about a hundred people. 570 00:28:40,446 --> 00:28:43,713 They were pointing towards what should be a church, 571 00:28:43,715 --> 00:28:46,182 but it was in ruins. 572 00:28:46,184 --> 00:28:48,518 Then these large cement walls 573 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:53,590 just came up on all four sides and just blocked me in. 574 00:28:53,592 --> 00:28:55,392 A lot of what you mentioned makes me think of the prison 575 00:28:55,394 --> 00:28:56,793 right down the road from here. 576 00:28:56,795 --> 00:28:59,062 Now, Christy, actually, you worked there, right? 577 00:29:00,532 --> 00:29:03,200 So these days, it's a maximum security women's prison. 578 00:29:03,202 --> 00:29:04,668 Really? 579 00:29:04,670 --> 00:29:07,203 But back in the day, it was a boy's reformatory school. 580 00:29:07,205 --> 00:29:08,404 Interesting. 581 00:29:08,406 --> 00:29:11,040 Now, you mentioned that you saw a church. 582 00:29:11,042 --> 00:29:15,678 It was started in the late 1800s by a woman's Christian group. 583 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:17,013 The goal of this whole thing was to help 584 00:29:17,015 --> 00:29:19,148 troubled kids turn their lives around. 585 00:29:19,150 --> 00:29:22,285 Instead, it turned into a nightmare. 586 00:29:22,287 --> 00:29:26,088 They were abused, beaten, raped, tortured. 587 00:29:26,090 --> 00:29:28,759 How could anyone do that to children? 588 00:29:28,761 --> 00:29:32,162 Conditions were so bad there, 16 kids died in a 20-year period 589 00:29:32,164 --> 00:29:35,298 from 1900 to 1920. 590 00:29:35,300 --> 00:29:37,634 The kids were buried right on the grounds 591 00:29:37,636 --> 00:29:41,638 just down the street from here. 592 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:45,709 Cemetery's still there today. 593 00:29:45,711 --> 00:29:47,510 Now, the abuse went on for years. 594 00:29:47,512 --> 00:29:51,514 Finally, the Feds came in, and in 1979, they shut it down. 595 00:29:51,516 --> 00:29:54,851 I heard stories, and I didn't know what was true 596 00:29:54,853 --> 00:29:56,253 and what wasn't true. 597 00:30:00,225 --> 00:30:03,126 Okay. So what else? 598 00:30:03,128 --> 00:30:07,130 One of the dead people that I ran into 599 00:30:07,132 --> 00:30:11,868 was a deceased little girl. 600 00:30:11,870 --> 00:30:15,939 I was guessing her age at about 8 years. 601 00:30:15,941 --> 00:30:19,142 Living people in this house might see her. 602 00:30:19,144 --> 00:30:20,610 That's interesting. 603 00:30:20,612 --> 00:30:23,146 Tiffany, did you tell me about having a dream of a little girl? 604 00:30:23,148 --> 00:30:24,948 I did. 605 00:30:24,950 --> 00:30:26,616 She had long blonde hair. 606 00:30:26,618 --> 00:30:29,152 I didn't see what she was wearing or anything, 607 00:30:29,154 --> 00:30:31,554 but she did have solid black eyes. 608 00:30:31,556 --> 00:30:32,688 Interesting. 609 00:30:32,690 --> 00:30:36,158 She spends a lot of time in the master bedroom. 610 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:41,431 She also was showing me that she would get into bed 611 00:30:41,433 --> 00:30:43,833 and crawl kind of to the bottom of the bed 612 00:30:43,835 --> 00:30:47,437 and curl up like a little dog. 613 00:30:47,439 --> 00:30:49,172 I was laying in bed, 614 00:30:49,174 --> 00:30:53,777 and I felt like something was definitely in the bed. 615 00:30:59,117 --> 00:31:03,320 The next dead person I ran into was just freaking out, 616 00:31:03,322 --> 00:31:05,989 so I call him the crying man. 617 00:31:05,991 --> 00:31:09,125 He has a very big impact 618 00:31:09,127 --> 00:31:12,128 on the living in this house. 619 00:31:12,130 --> 00:31:16,600 He has extremely high anxiety. 620 00:31:16,602 --> 00:31:20,804 He can easily affect the living and their emotions 621 00:31:20,806 --> 00:31:22,672 when they're around him, 622 00:31:22,674 --> 00:31:27,077 so that could swing from extreme stress and anxiety 623 00:31:27,079 --> 00:31:29,078 to extreme depression, 624 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:33,950 possibly even the need to cry unexpectedly. 625 00:31:33,952 --> 00:31:39,356 I go from crying to large bouts of depression, 626 00:31:39,358 --> 00:31:43,359 sadness, anxiety, and there's lots of anger, 627 00:31:43,361 --> 00:31:46,228 constant roller coaster of emotions. 628 00:31:46,230 --> 00:31:48,899 So, Tiffany, when you're here, do you feel that? Yes. 629 00:31:48,901 --> 00:31:53,770 I feel sad and especially in the back room. 630 00:31:53,772 --> 00:31:57,240 Now, you used to live back in that room? Yes, I did. 631 00:31:57,242 --> 00:31:59,308 He talks a lot, 632 00:31:59,310 --> 00:32:02,912 so I thought that maybe the living here would hear him. 633 00:32:02,914 --> 00:32:04,380 Tell Amy what happened. 634 00:32:04,382 --> 00:32:06,650 I was sitting out on the porch one night, 635 00:32:06,652 --> 00:32:09,652 and it sounded like a man cleared his voice, 636 00:32:09,654 --> 00:32:11,221 got my attention. 637 00:32:11,223 --> 00:32:14,857 I got a flashlight, and I drove around the property, nothing. 638 00:32:14,859 --> 00:32:16,660 I was in that back room, 639 00:32:16,662 --> 00:32:18,061 and I was getting ready to go to bed. 640 00:32:18,063 --> 00:32:21,197 I had just laid down, and out of nowhere, 641 00:32:21,199 --> 00:32:23,332 I heard my name whispered in my ear, 642 00:32:23,334 --> 00:32:24,935 and it was a man's voice. 643 00:32:24,937 --> 00:32:27,403 Okay. Okay. 644 00:32:27,405 --> 00:32:30,607 So any idea who this guy might've been when he was alive? 645 00:32:30,609 --> 00:32:32,541 So he was white. 646 00:32:32,543 --> 00:32:36,746 I believe he owned this property at some point. 647 00:32:36,748 --> 00:32:40,016 He was extremely religious, and he just said, you know, 648 00:32:40,018 --> 00:32:41,818 "The economy was horrible. 649 00:32:41,820 --> 00:32:45,422 Everything was really bad. We lost it all." 650 00:32:45,424 --> 00:32:48,825 I think I might know who she's talking about. 651 00:32:48,827 --> 00:32:50,626 Back in the 1930s, this property was owned 652 00:32:50,628 --> 00:32:52,696 by a former sheriff of the county. 653 00:32:52,698 --> 00:32:54,497 His name was Walter Hollingsworth. 654 00:32:54,499 --> 00:32:57,834 He was extremely, extremely religious. 655 00:32:57,836 --> 00:33:00,637 Before he was a sheriff, he was a preacher. 656 00:33:00,639 --> 00:33:02,238 Wow. Okay. 657 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,374 I also tracked down a photo of Hollingsworth 658 00:33:04,376 --> 00:33:09,179 when he first got the job as the sheriff. 659 00:33:09,181 --> 00:33:12,782 Now, in 1931, his life changed. 660 00:33:12,784 --> 00:33:14,317 An inmate was going nuts in the jail, 661 00:33:14,319 --> 00:33:17,854 and Hollingsworth tackled him to get him to calm down. 662 00:33:17,856 --> 00:33:21,257 The jail doctor grabs a lead pipe. 663 00:33:21,259 --> 00:33:23,192 He tried hitting the convict with that lead pipe, 664 00:33:23,194 --> 00:33:25,728 but he wound up hitting the sheriff. 665 00:33:25,730 --> 00:33:27,063 He was in the hospital a long time 666 00:33:27,065 --> 00:33:29,399 and even had part of his brain removed. 667 00:33:29,401 --> 00:33:30,600 ****. 668 00:33:30,602 --> 00:33:33,402 - No. - My god. 669 00:33:33,404 --> 00:33:35,405 Now, he died three years later in 1934 670 00:33:35,407 --> 00:33:40,143 due to complications from that injury at the age of 60. Okay. 671 00:33:40,145 --> 00:33:44,414 After that accident, his wife, Birdie, took over as sheriff. 672 00:33:44,416 --> 00:33:45,815 I actually have a picture of her. 673 00:33:50,355 --> 00:33:53,356 But by 1935, she was completely broke 674 00:33:53,358 --> 00:33:55,825 and had to give up the property. 675 00:33:55,827 --> 00:33:59,161 She ended up dying in 1953 at the age of 68. 676 00:33:59,163 --> 00:34:00,897 She was penniless. 677 00:34:06,637 --> 00:34:10,706 So this kind of brings me to what I think 678 00:34:10,708 --> 00:34:13,643 is the biggest problem here. 679 00:34:13,645 --> 00:34:16,513 It was showing itself as, like, 680 00:34:16,515 --> 00:34:21,851 a huge snake like a king cobra. 681 00:34:21,853 --> 00:34:26,990 It seemed to me like this thing had really never been human 682 00:34:26,992 --> 00:34:30,059 and was ancient, 683 00:34:30,061 --> 00:34:32,462 and it has a very big effect 684 00:34:32,464 --> 00:34:36,065 on living people. 685 00:34:36,067 --> 00:34:41,938 It can cause accidents, and it can get physical. 686 00:34:41,940 --> 00:34:43,472 My god. 687 00:34:43,474 --> 00:34:46,142 He's coming up my legs, and I am not gonna let him do that. 688 00:34:46,144 --> 00:34:50,346 Get off my **** legs, like, like, right now. 689 00:34:50,348 --> 00:34:52,415 It seeps into your body. 690 00:34:52,417 --> 00:34:55,552 Ice-cold. 691 00:34:55,554 --> 00:34:56,819 I was laying there one night 692 00:34:56,821 --> 00:35:01,958 and a cold hand touched my thigh, 693 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:05,028 and it worked its way down to my calf. 694 00:35:05,030 --> 00:35:06,095 Yeah, it was cold. 695 00:35:09,367 --> 00:35:13,235 I didn't know that was happening to her. 696 00:35:13,237 --> 00:35:15,538 I did have a sketch done. 697 00:35:22,313 --> 00:35:24,514 Wow. 698 00:35:30,322 --> 00:35:32,655 Wow. 699 00:35:36,460 --> 00:35:39,729 I'm pissed off. 700 00:35:39,731 --> 00:35:43,733 I'm very upset 701 00:35:43,735 --> 00:35:45,935 that it's doing that to my mother. 702 00:35:49,674 --> 00:35:53,542 I was sitting on the bed and had that other door shut, 703 00:35:53,544 --> 00:35:57,747 and then I heard wings flapping toward my bedroom, 704 00:35:57,749 --> 00:36:01,484 and it flew into the door and pushed me on the bed, 705 00:36:01,486 --> 00:36:05,888 and the force held me on the he bed so hard, 706 00:36:05,890 --> 00:36:07,423 it was hard to breathe, 707 00:36:07,425 --> 00:36:10,093 and I could actually feel my eyes rolling back in my head, 708 00:36:10,095 --> 00:36:12,361 and I couldn't talk. 709 00:36:12,363 --> 00:36:13,896 Now, does any of that what she's saying 710 00:36:13,898 --> 00:36:16,098 make any sense to you? 711 00:36:16,100 --> 00:36:18,968 Yeah. 712 00:36:18,970 --> 00:36:20,903 You know, it's kind of hard to see what this thing 713 00:36:20,905 --> 00:36:22,905 really looks like from this sketch. 714 00:36:22,907 --> 00:36:24,373 Did you get a better look at this thing? 715 00:36:24,375 --> 00:36:26,375 I had its face sketched. 716 00:36:26,377 --> 00:36:27,844 The face, okay. 717 00:36:39,858 --> 00:36:42,125 My god. 718 00:36:48,799 --> 00:36:50,667 Wow. 719 00:36:50,669 --> 00:36:52,402 It looks pure evil. 720 00:37:00,278 --> 00:37:03,145 This thing can make people have, 721 00:37:03,147 --> 00:37:07,817 you know, extremely bizarre thoughts, 722 00:37:07,819 --> 00:37:10,753 hallucinations, acting out, 723 00:37:10,755 --> 00:37:13,756 bizarre behaviors, all of that. 724 00:37:13,758 --> 00:37:15,692 The stuff that happened at the boy's reformatory, 725 00:37:15,694 --> 00:37:17,694 the sheriff getting hit and stuff like that, 726 00:37:17,696 --> 00:37:20,296 could that have been caused by this thing? Yes. 727 00:37:20,298 --> 00:37:22,432 Any violence that goes on in and around here 728 00:37:22,434 --> 00:37:27,036 is caused directly by this, by this thing. 729 00:37:27,038 --> 00:37:28,972 What the hell does this thing want from these guys? 730 00:37:28,974 --> 00:37:33,976 Its ultimate goal is to make people zombies, 731 00:37:33,978 --> 00:37:37,646 and it does this by planting seeds in the living. 732 00:37:37,648 --> 00:37:40,316 It'll influence them to do things 733 00:37:40,318 --> 00:37:44,987 that they wouldn't normally do. 734 00:37:44,989 --> 00:37:47,656 My god. 735 00:37:47,658 --> 00:37:49,391 I'm scared to leave her at home by herself now 736 00:37:49,393 --> 00:37:51,861 that I know what's going on. 737 00:37:51,863 --> 00:37:53,863 What the hell is this thing? 738 00:37:53,865 --> 00:37:57,266 Well, like a demon-devil. 739 00:37:57,268 --> 00:38:01,671 You know, this is true **** evil. 740 00:38:01,673 --> 00:38:02,805 I knew it wasn't good, 741 00:38:02,807 --> 00:38:06,609 but I would've never expected this bad. 742 00:38:06,611 --> 00:38:11,214 This is even worse than I what I had in my mind. 743 00:38:11,216 --> 00:38:13,082 I'm sorry. I need a minute. 744 00:38:53,923 --> 00:38:56,724 So, Christy, I've done over 150 of these cases, 745 00:38:56,726 --> 00:39:00,128 and I can't tell you how many people think they know 746 00:39:00,130 --> 00:39:03,197 what's going on in their own home. 747 00:39:03,199 --> 00:39:07,601 Unfortunately, in this case, you were right on the money, 748 00:39:07,603 --> 00:39:10,071 so now we're gonna answer the big question. 749 00:39:10,073 --> 00:39:13,007 Can you stay and fight it like you want to, 750 00:39:13,009 --> 00:39:15,009 or do you need to pack up and get out? 751 00:39:15,011 --> 00:39:16,543 For that answer, I'm gonna turn it over to Amy. 752 00:39:20,951 --> 00:39:25,886 So this thing has done damage 753 00:39:25,888 --> 00:39:28,956 for a very long time, 754 00:39:28,958 --> 00:39:31,359 and Christy, his plan for you 755 00:39:31,361 --> 00:39:36,364 is to just get rid of you, kill you off. 756 00:39:36,366 --> 00:39:39,434 Steve, he says he can control you. 757 00:39:39,436 --> 00:39:41,969 He's behind you, beside you. 758 00:39:41,971 --> 00:39:45,172 He wants all of you and that he's almost there. 759 00:39:49,779 --> 00:39:53,114 For you, Tiffany, 760 00:39:53,116 --> 00:39:55,450 he said he enjoys you 761 00:39:55,452 --> 00:39:59,654 and that you're next, that he'll come for you, 762 00:39:59,656 --> 00:40:03,390 and there is a small seed already inside of your body. 763 00:40:03,392 --> 00:40:05,726 - My god. - No, no. 764 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,667 So how do we stop it, or can we stop it? 765 00:40:16,005 --> 00:40:19,007 Okay. So here's the thing, Tiffany. 766 00:40:19,009 --> 00:40:23,478 The seed and the attachment need to be removed 767 00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:26,614 by a Native American shaman 768 00:40:26,616 --> 00:40:30,151 and that once this is done, you can never return here. 769 00:40:35,224 --> 00:40:39,427 Steve, you need a purification 770 00:40:39,429 --> 00:40:42,029 and blessing ceremony. 771 00:40:44,367 --> 00:40:45,967 You can never return after. 772 00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:55,109 And then, Christy, 773 00:40:55,111 --> 00:40:59,047 you definitely need to move as soon as possible. 774 00:40:59,049 --> 00:41:02,316 I'm sorry. I'm really sorry. 775 00:41:02,318 --> 00:41:06,454 You okay, Tiff? 776 00:41:06,456 --> 00:41:10,591 I'm scared. I'm upset. 777 00:41:10,593 --> 00:41:13,661 I'm...I don't know what to feel right now. 778 00:41:24,073 --> 00:41:25,540 So if they do all of this, 779 00:41:25,542 --> 00:41:29,077 will they eventually get back to being a normal family? 780 00:41:29,079 --> 00:41:32,880 Yes. 781 00:41:32,882 --> 00:41:35,750 I get my mom back, and if she has to move... 782 00:41:35,752 --> 00:41:40,154 - We'll start over elsewhere. - Okay. 783 00:41:40,156 --> 00:41:41,689 You promise me you're gonna listen to what she said? 784 00:41:41,691 --> 00:41:42,756 - Exactly. -100%. 785 00:41:42,758 --> 00:41:43,891 - That's a promise. - I understand. 786 00:41:43,893 --> 00:41:45,493 It's gonna happen. It's gonna happen. 787 00:41:45,495 --> 00:41:46,960 Okay. 788 00:41:46,962 --> 00:41:51,899 My mom means everything to me, so I appreciate y'all. 789 00:41:51,901 --> 00:41:55,703 It's never easy telling a family to leave their home, 790 00:41:55,705 --> 00:42:00,241 but in a situation as dangerous as this, it's their only option. 791 00:42:00,243 --> 00:42:04,912 Hopefully, they take my advice, leave this demon behind 792 00:42:04,914 --> 00:42:08,382 and get a fresh start someplace new. 793 00:42:12,388 --> 00:42:15,123 Hi, our house is under contract to sell. 794 00:42:15,125 --> 00:42:17,257 We have followed Amy's advice, 795 00:42:17,259 --> 00:42:20,194 and we're looking forward to moving into a new home 796 00:42:20,196 --> 00:42:22,864 and having our grandkids come stay with us again, 797 00:42:22,866 --> 00:42:25,533 so we're just hoping for a new beginning 798 00:42:25,535 --> 00:42:43,150 and to be able to start over. 799 00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:47,750 Repair and Synchronization by Easy Subtitles Synchronizer 1.0.0.0 60859

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