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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:11,044 --> 00:00:14,379 The dead guy comes in here a lot. 2 00:00:14,381 --> 00:00:16,447 He's gaining strength. 3 00:00:16,449 --> 00:00:20,184 I felt two hands push me into the stairs. 4 00:00:20,186 --> 00:00:21,719 He's hanging out with his kid. 5 00:00:21,721 --> 00:00:24,189 He scratch. 6 00:00:24,191 --> 00:00:26,724 He goes under the bed, pushing on the bed. 7 00:00:28,795 --> 00:00:31,062 This is serial killer mentality. 8 00:00:31,064 --> 00:00:32,597 This is incredibly dangerous. 9 00:00:34,734 --> 00:00:37,669 I don't like this. 10 00:00:37,671 --> 00:00:40,338 And I just feel...fear. 11 00:00:40,340 --> 00:00:42,206 My name is Amy Allan. 12 00:00:42,208 --> 00:00:45,476 This is like Grand Central Station for the dead. 13 00:00:45,478 --> 00:00:46,678 I see dead people. 14 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:48,880 They have pain that they suffered. 15 00:00:48,882 --> 00:00:50,882 I speak to dead people. 16 00:00:50,884 --> 00:00:53,618 She hates them, hates them. 17 00:00:53,620 --> 00:00:55,954 And they speak to me. 18 00:00:55,956 --> 00:00:59,357 But there's only one way to know if my findings are real. 19 00:00:59,359 --> 00:01:00,692 It's a demon. 20 00:01:00,694 --> 00:01:02,960 It's Satan. 21 00:01:02,962 --> 00:01:04,495 I rely on my partner. 22 00:01:04,497 --> 00:01:06,030 I'm Steve Di Schiavi. 23 00:01:06,032 --> 00:01:08,099 I'm a retired New York City homicide detective. 24 00:01:08,101 --> 00:01:09,634 What was the body count? What happened? 25 00:01:09,636 --> 00:01:13,238 And I know every person, every house has secrets. 26 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:14,639 I don't know if it's a demon or not, 27 00:01:14,641 --> 00:01:16,173 but it sure as hell looks like one. 28 00:01:16,175 --> 00:01:17,976 It's my job to reveal them. 29 00:01:17,978 --> 00:01:20,444 I feel like I'm crazy. 30 00:01:20,446 --> 00:01:22,313 But Steve and I never speak... 31 00:01:22,315 --> 00:01:24,382 We never communicate during an investigation... 32 00:01:24,384 --> 00:01:25,784 ...until the very end. 33 00:01:25,786 --> 00:01:27,719 I want to show you this. 34 00:01:27,721 --> 00:01:29,988 ...when we uncover if it's safe for you to stay... 35 00:01:29,990 --> 00:01:32,323 I just don't want anything to happen to my mother. 36 00:01:32,325 --> 00:01:33,924 Or time to get out. 37 00:01:33,926 --> 00:01:35,326 You have to get out. 38 00:01:47,541 --> 00:01:49,407 I'm up here in Tonawanda, New York. 39 00:01:49,409 --> 00:01:51,609 It's just outside of Buffalo. 40 00:01:51,611 --> 00:01:53,478 I got a call from a woman named Kerrie. 41 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:56,481 Now, she's had activity in her house forever. 42 00:01:56,483 --> 00:01:59,951 She's used to it, but a few months ago all hell broke loose. 43 00:01:59,953 --> 00:02:02,687 She says it's getting worse by the day, and if we can't help, 44 00:02:02,689 --> 00:02:04,288 someone's going to get badly hurt. 45 00:02:09,296 --> 00:02:14,366 Before Amy arrives, I look for any leading information. 46 00:02:14,368 --> 00:02:17,969 This home has a lot of family photographs and furniture 47 00:02:17,971 --> 00:02:20,438 that could influence her findings, 48 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:24,775 so it's important that I cover or remove them all. 49 00:02:24,777 --> 00:02:28,113 When I'm done, the location will be ready for tonight's walk. 50 00:02:42,663 --> 00:02:44,462 I don't like this. 51 00:02:44,464 --> 00:02:49,000 Immediately coming in here, I'm getting, like, head pain... 52 00:02:49,002 --> 00:02:50,602 This hurts. 53 00:02:50,604 --> 00:02:55,807 ...feeling extremely sad, a lot of depression, 54 00:02:55,809 --> 00:02:57,742 a lot of depression here. 55 00:03:00,279 --> 00:03:03,347 It's, like, never-ending. That makes me nervous. 56 00:03:10,156 --> 00:03:11,823 So, Kerrie, when we spoke on the phone, 57 00:03:11,825 --> 00:03:13,958 it sounded to me like you're at the end of your rope. 58 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:15,693 What's going on in this house? 59 00:03:15,695 --> 00:03:17,962 The activity is crazy. 60 00:03:17,964 --> 00:03:21,299 As a mom, I should be able to protect my children 61 00:03:21,301 --> 00:03:25,436 and my granddaughter, and I feel like I can't do that. 62 00:03:25,438 --> 00:03:26,638 Okay. 63 00:03:26,640 --> 00:03:27,972 Any information about the house 64 00:03:27,974 --> 00:03:29,541 that you might know, any history? 65 00:03:29,543 --> 00:03:33,544 We were told the previous owner had passed away in the home. 66 00:03:33,546 --> 00:03:34,713 Her name was Verna. 67 00:03:34,715 --> 00:03:36,514 Interesting. Okay. I'll look into that. 68 00:03:36,516 --> 00:03:37,916 You've been here a while, right? 69 00:03:37,918 --> 00:03:39,984 Yes, since '98. I remember you saying 70 00:03:39,986 --> 00:03:42,520 that you've always had activity, right? Yes, yes. 71 00:03:42,522 --> 00:03:44,856 It was small things, like you would maybe 72 00:03:44,858 --> 00:03:46,791 hear a little bit of walking or something. 73 00:03:46,793 --> 00:03:47,925 Well, what changed? 74 00:03:47,927 --> 00:03:49,661 My daughter and granddaughter moved back in 75 00:03:49,663 --> 00:03:53,731 about 2 months ago, and it's been unbearable. 76 00:03:53,733 --> 00:03:55,933 It's every single day. 77 00:03:55,935 --> 00:03:58,603 Now, who all lives in the house with you? 78 00:03:58,605 --> 00:04:01,339 - It is my husband, Tom. - Okay. 79 00:04:01,341 --> 00:04:04,142 That's myself, our granddaughter, Bella, 80 00:04:04,144 --> 00:04:06,144 and that's our daughter, Kayli. 81 00:04:06,146 --> 00:04:07,879 And how old is Bella now? 82 00:04:07,881 --> 00:04:09,080 She's 31/2. 83 00:04:09,082 --> 00:04:12,150 Okay. I have a son, Keenan. 84 00:04:12,152 --> 00:04:14,218 He actually lived here, but he had to leave. 85 00:04:14,220 --> 00:04:15,686 He couldn't take it anymore. 86 00:04:15,688 --> 00:04:16,955 He left because of the activity? 87 00:04:16,957 --> 00:04:18,623 - Yes. - Do me a favor. 88 00:04:18,625 --> 00:04:22,560 Give me a list of what is going on in the house. 89 00:04:22,562 --> 00:04:24,429 We hear voices. 90 00:04:24,431 --> 00:04:29,367 Things are moving, shadow figures, physical attacks. 91 00:04:29,369 --> 00:04:31,769 My health issues have been getting worse. 92 00:04:31,771 --> 00:04:33,371 Anything specific? 93 00:04:33,373 --> 00:04:37,441 Well, I've always had epilepsy, but since the last 4 years, 94 00:04:37,443 --> 00:04:39,443 the seizures have been getting out of control. 95 00:04:39,445 --> 00:04:42,313 I assume you're seeing doctors about your physical problems. 96 00:04:42,315 --> 00:04:44,182 - Yes. - So what are they telling you? 97 00:04:44,184 --> 00:04:48,652 They're at their wit's end. They don't know what's going on, 98 00:04:48,654 --> 00:04:51,055 and I really do feel like someone 99 00:04:51,057 --> 00:04:55,059 or something is trying to kill me 100 00:04:55,061 --> 00:04:57,929 or seriously injury me slowly, 101 00:04:57,931 --> 00:05:00,264 and then if I die, like, 102 00:05:00,266 --> 00:05:01,866 then it's going to move on to Bella. 103 00:05:04,805 --> 00:05:06,270 Okay. 104 00:05:10,744 --> 00:05:12,610 Shh. 105 00:05:21,154 --> 00:05:24,556 There's an older dead woman here who's pissed off. 106 00:05:24,558 --> 00:05:26,624 She's very upset. 107 00:05:26,626 --> 00:05:29,294 I think she might be causing a lot of problems here. 108 00:05:31,498 --> 00:05:33,297 There's a dead male here, too. 109 00:05:33,299 --> 00:05:36,634 He just reminds me of somebody who would drive a truck. 110 00:05:36,636 --> 00:05:41,572 I think that he comes out here to, like, escape the chaos. 111 00:05:41,574 --> 00:05:46,176 He was saying that this has been going on for a while 112 00:05:46,178 --> 00:05:48,847 and that it's been getting worse. 113 00:05:48,849 --> 00:05:51,248 Do you know if the living have any experiences with him? 114 00:05:51,250 --> 00:05:53,117 I think that they have seen him. 115 00:05:53,119 --> 00:05:54,385 I think that they're catching him 116 00:05:54,387 --> 00:05:56,054 out of the corner of their eye 117 00:05:56,056 --> 00:05:58,923 when he's, you know, walking out or walking back in. 118 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:09,533 Okay, so what's going on in this room? 119 00:06:09,535 --> 00:06:11,602 I was sitting here on this love seat, 120 00:06:11,604 --> 00:06:15,606 and I seen a reflection in the china closet, 121 00:06:15,608 --> 00:06:18,676 in the glass, of a man, like a shadow figure. 122 00:06:18,678 --> 00:06:20,545 Okay. Did you investigate? 123 00:06:20,547 --> 00:06:23,214 Yes, I got up, and I went, and no one was in the house. 124 00:06:23,216 --> 00:06:24,415 And how often does that happen? 125 00:06:24,417 --> 00:06:26,817 I would say it's probably happened at least 126 00:06:26,819 --> 00:06:29,354 six times in a year. 127 00:06:29,356 --> 00:06:30,688 Anything else? 128 00:06:30,690 --> 00:06:32,957 The stairs are a big problem here in the house. 129 00:06:32,959 --> 00:06:36,160 I was coming up the staircase, like from doing laundry, 130 00:06:36,162 --> 00:06:38,896 and when I turned to come up the stairs, 131 00:06:38,898 --> 00:06:41,432 I felt, like, a rush come up behind me, 132 00:06:41,434 --> 00:06:45,370 and then I felt two hands push me actually into the stairs. 133 00:06:45,372 --> 00:06:46,704 Okay. Did you get hurt? 134 00:06:46,706 --> 00:06:49,040 No, I caught myself on the stairs. 135 00:06:52,912 --> 00:06:55,246 A lot of issues with the stairs. 136 00:06:55,248 --> 00:06:57,915 For a very long time, they've been a problem. 137 00:06:57,917 --> 00:07:01,786 Okay, imprint, residual, I'm getting somebody, a female, 138 00:07:01,788 --> 00:07:04,588 running down the stairs, yelling and screaming, 139 00:07:04,590 --> 00:07:05,790 "My God." 140 00:07:07,994 --> 00:07:09,260 Trying to find somebody, 141 00:07:09,262 --> 00:07:11,329 somebody who's down here who's in trouble. 142 00:07:11,331 --> 00:07:14,131 This residual's very... tangible. 143 00:07:14,133 --> 00:07:16,734 If the living are exposed to this, 144 00:07:16,736 --> 00:07:19,670 I think that they would feel like kind of a pressure, 145 00:07:19,672 --> 00:07:23,074 and that might cause them to have accidents. 146 00:07:24,477 --> 00:07:26,210 It's really bad. 147 00:07:33,153 --> 00:07:35,153 Okay, so what's going on up here? 148 00:07:35,155 --> 00:07:37,555 One day, I was in Bella's room rocking her to sleep, 149 00:07:37,557 --> 00:07:39,824 and I felt this scratch. 150 00:07:41,694 --> 00:07:44,628 So when this scratch occurred, how'd it feel to you? 151 00:07:44,630 --> 00:07:46,097 Like a burn. 152 00:07:46,099 --> 00:07:47,898 After I had the scratch, that's when I said, "That's it. 153 00:07:47,900 --> 00:07:50,167 Bella's not sleeping in here anymore." 154 00:07:50,169 --> 00:07:51,702 As you can see, we have, like, a little bed 155 00:07:51,704 --> 00:07:53,170 over here for Bella. I see that. 156 00:07:53,172 --> 00:07:54,772 She sleeps with us now 157 00:07:54,774 --> 00:07:58,109 just because the activity has gotten so crazy. 158 00:07:58,111 --> 00:08:00,044 This is not good. 159 00:08:00,046 --> 00:08:02,113 Yeah. Anything else? 160 00:08:02,115 --> 00:08:04,182 I would have to say the worst thing that's happened to me 161 00:08:04,184 --> 00:08:07,518 is one night we were laying in bed, 162 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:12,190 and the next thing I knew, I was literally being held down. 163 00:08:12,192 --> 00:08:14,258 I couldn't breathe. I couldn't move. 164 00:08:14,260 --> 00:08:15,459 I couldn't do anything. 165 00:08:15,461 --> 00:08:19,597 All I kept thinking was, "I'm going to die. 166 00:08:19,599 --> 00:08:21,199 They're finally killing me. Like, they're killing me, 167 00:08:21,201 --> 00:08:22,400 and no one's going to ever know." 168 00:08:28,074 --> 00:08:32,943 The person here, they are, like, paralyzed, 169 00:08:32,945 --> 00:08:34,612 and they're panicked, and they're freaking out. 170 00:08:37,283 --> 00:08:39,884 The old lady is the one doing this. 171 00:08:39,886 --> 00:08:45,156 She does do stuff when she gets frustrated and upset, 172 00:08:45,158 --> 00:08:48,292 so this person's had nightmares, 173 00:08:48,294 --> 00:08:50,561 feeling like they're being kind of stalked, 174 00:08:50,563 --> 00:08:53,631 oftentimes scared. 175 00:08:56,102 --> 00:08:57,969 So with all this crap going on, 176 00:08:57,971 --> 00:08:59,437 how the hell are you sleeping at night? 177 00:08:59,439 --> 00:09:02,640 I'm really not. I have nightmares all the time. 178 00:09:02,642 --> 00:09:05,643 So I know you're on medication for your illnesses.- 179 00:09:05,645 --> 00:09:08,513 Any of those medications possibly causing hallucinations? 180 00:09:08,515 --> 00:09:11,715 No, that's not a side effect of the medicines that I'm on. 181 00:09:11,717 --> 00:09:13,718 - Okay, so that's ruled out? - Yes. 182 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:16,254 Anyone else experiencing nightmares like you? 183 00:09:16,256 --> 00:09:18,523 Bella actually has night terrors, 184 00:09:18,525 --> 00:09:20,591 like really bad, bad night terrors, 185 00:09:20,593 --> 00:09:23,861 and she will scream her head off. 186 00:09:23,863 --> 00:09:25,195 Amy may turn around and tell you, 187 00:09:25,197 --> 00:09:27,264 "Listen, this place is too dangerous." 188 00:09:27,266 --> 00:09:30,267 This is our house, and we'll do whatever to stay. 189 00:09:36,542 --> 00:09:42,480 The hallway is engulfed with this thing, and it's all black. 190 00:09:42,482 --> 00:09:44,215 I don't like this. 191 00:09:44,217 --> 00:09:46,884 What the **** is this thing? 192 00:09:46,886 --> 00:09:50,021 All I know is that this dark entity is very negative 193 00:09:50,023 --> 00:09:51,756 and very bad. 194 00:09:51,758 --> 00:09:53,090 It's feeding off of energy, 195 00:09:53,092 --> 00:09:55,226 which can wreck the immune system. 196 00:09:55,228 --> 00:09:57,628 You know, things like that are already occurring, 197 00:09:57,630 --> 00:10:01,432 and they could be susceptible to all kinds of illnesses 198 00:10:01,434 --> 00:10:03,300 which could, you know, land somebody 199 00:10:03,302 --> 00:10:05,235 in the hospital or worse. 200 00:10:30,862 --> 00:10:33,063 So, Keenan, I understand you moved out recently 201 00:10:33,065 --> 00:10:34,664 because of the paranormal activity. 202 00:10:34,666 --> 00:10:36,199 Mostly because of it, yes. 203 00:10:36,201 --> 00:10:37,868 Obviously, if paranormal activity 204 00:10:37,870 --> 00:10:39,870 had a reason for you moving out, you must have had experiences. 205 00:10:39,872 --> 00:10:42,405 Yes. Okay, so let's talk about a couple of them. 206 00:10:42,407 --> 00:10:45,341 I mean, just always feeling like I was being watched. 207 00:10:45,343 --> 00:10:46,676 I never felt, like, at ease. 208 00:10:46,678 --> 00:10:47,810 Like, I always had to look over my shoulder. 209 00:10:47,812 --> 00:10:48,945 Like, "What's behind me?" 210 00:10:48,947 --> 00:10:50,347 What's that feel like for you? 211 00:10:50,349 --> 00:10:51,414 Like, you know, you're walking down the street, 212 00:10:51,416 --> 00:10:52,815 and people are walking behind you. 213 00:10:52,817 --> 00:10:54,017 You're like, "What's going to happen right now?" 214 00:10:54,019 --> 00:10:55,552 Okay, anything else? 215 00:10:55,554 --> 00:10:58,287 Well, for example, Monday night when I left here, 216 00:10:58,289 --> 00:11:01,691 I went home and just felt horrible, 217 00:11:01,693 --> 00:11:03,893 just like I got ran over by a truck, 218 00:11:03,895 --> 00:11:05,428 just couldn't really walk well. 219 00:11:05,430 --> 00:11:06,696 I just -- drained. 220 00:11:06,698 --> 00:11:08,565 When you were here that day, how long were you here? 221 00:11:08,567 --> 00:11:10,100 Three hours. 222 00:11:10,102 --> 00:11:11,568 Just -- It was the worst I've ever felt. 223 00:11:11,570 --> 00:11:12,902 I felt like a 90-year-old man. 224 00:11:12,904 --> 00:11:14,437 What do you think is going on in this house? 225 00:11:14,439 --> 00:11:16,306 I mean, what's your opinion? 226 00:11:16,308 --> 00:11:18,441 I mean, there's definitely some negative energy, 227 00:11:18,443 --> 00:11:20,310 something just that doesn't belong. 228 00:11:24,449 --> 00:11:27,717 I don't like it down here at all. 229 00:11:27,719 --> 00:11:30,920 This room is just filled 230 00:11:30,922 --> 00:11:35,058 with horrible, chaotic, 231 00:11:35,060 --> 00:11:37,193 stagnant energy. 232 00:11:37,195 --> 00:11:39,462 Like, you can't even breathe in here. 233 00:11:39,464 --> 00:11:41,464 Like, it's making me physically sick. 234 00:11:44,536 --> 00:11:47,938 Whoever's here in this room is a sensitive. 235 00:11:47,940 --> 00:11:50,073 I would think a woman was here, 236 00:11:50,075 --> 00:11:52,876 but I'm getting a male with this. 237 00:11:52,878 --> 00:11:55,145 A male in this space, a living male, 238 00:11:55,147 --> 00:11:58,615 this person's hearing stuff all the time, all the time. 239 00:11:58,617 --> 00:12:02,018 Could be a physical medium. They're freaking themselves out. 240 00:12:02,020 --> 00:12:04,454 It's not good for them at all. 241 00:12:11,964 --> 00:12:13,897 Kayli, you know, Mom called us in, 242 00:12:13,899 --> 00:12:16,365 and she's concerned about your daughter, Bella. 243 00:12:16,367 --> 00:12:19,702 Yeah. It's not a good way for your child to have a childhood. 244 00:12:19,704 --> 00:12:21,905 You know, Mom told me about her experiences, 245 00:12:21,907 --> 00:12:23,573 but I'm curious about yours. 246 00:12:23,575 --> 00:12:25,075 Have you had any? 247 00:12:25,077 --> 00:12:27,710 Yeah, I've had multiple experiences in the house. 248 00:12:27,712 --> 00:12:29,112 I've seen shadow people. 249 00:12:29,114 --> 00:12:32,114 I've seen apparitions of people. 250 00:12:32,116 --> 00:12:34,317 Now, anything specific that stands out to you? 251 00:12:34,319 --> 00:12:37,320 I actually seen one that looked like my dad. 252 00:12:37,322 --> 00:12:39,990 I was sleeping in one of the downstairs rooms, 253 00:12:39,992 --> 00:12:42,992 and I thought I heard talking and the door open. 254 00:12:42,994 --> 00:12:45,929 It looked like my dad standing there, and he was talking to me, 255 00:12:45,931 --> 00:12:47,463 and when I opened my eyes completely, 256 00:12:47,465 --> 00:12:49,065 there was nothing there, and the door was shut. 257 00:12:49,067 --> 00:12:50,399 Where was your father? 258 00:12:50,401 --> 00:12:52,602 He was sleeping up here in his room. 259 00:12:52,604 --> 00:12:55,538 It was just scary, awful feeling. 260 00:12:55,540 --> 00:12:57,140 Anything else? 261 00:12:57,142 --> 00:12:59,142 When I'm sleeping in my room, I hear a lot of, 262 00:12:59,144 --> 00:13:00,743 like, knocking on my door, 263 00:13:00,745 --> 00:13:03,012 and I will go to open it, and nobody will be there. 264 00:13:03,014 --> 00:13:04,214 Now, what kind of knocking are we talking about? 265 00:13:04,216 --> 00:13:06,215 Like, a hard knock or just like a... 266 00:13:06,217 --> 00:13:08,017 No. It would be kind of, I guess, 267 00:13:08,019 --> 00:13:09,953 you would say like a kid would be knocking. 268 00:13:09,955 --> 00:13:12,756 Okay, so are you thinking maybe it's Bella? 269 00:13:12,758 --> 00:13:15,091 I have thought that before, and when I open the door, 270 00:13:15,093 --> 00:13:16,692 nobody's there. 271 00:13:19,364 --> 00:13:23,032 This dark, negative entity is making a lot of noise here. 272 00:13:23,034 --> 00:13:24,834 Can you describe the sounds it's making in the hall? 273 00:13:24,836 --> 00:13:27,903 Man. It just sounded like chaos. 274 00:13:30,909 --> 00:13:34,176 Taps on the walls, like, knocking on the walls, 275 00:13:34,178 --> 00:13:35,578 bangs against the walls, 276 00:13:35,580 --> 00:13:38,181 like as if two people were fighting in the hallway. 277 00:13:38,183 --> 00:13:40,250 That's what it sounds like. 278 00:13:41,652 --> 00:13:43,786 So, Kayli, when you're talking to Bella, 279 00:13:43,788 --> 00:13:46,189 does she explain to you what the hell's going on? 280 00:13:46,191 --> 00:13:49,925 She always talks about a little boy that lives in her closet. 281 00:13:49,927 --> 00:13:51,194 Okay. 282 00:13:51,196 --> 00:13:53,730 I mean, do you think she'd tell me what's going on? 283 00:13:53,732 --> 00:13:55,865 She might. We could try. 284 00:13:55,867 --> 00:13:58,201 Bella, come here. Come here, Belly. 285 00:13:58,203 --> 00:14:01,004 - Hiya, honey. - Can you say hi? 286 00:14:01,006 --> 00:14:03,473 - Hi. - Aw. 287 00:14:03,475 --> 00:14:06,743 Bella, Mommy tells me you see a little boy in the closet here. 288 00:14:06,745 --> 00:14:09,446 Can you tell me anything about him? 289 00:14:14,018 --> 00:14:16,686 Just a kid. Does he scare you, honey? 290 00:14:16,688 --> 00:14:20,023 Yeah, because he scratch. 291 00:14:20,025 --> 00:14:21,290 He scratch? 292 00:14:21,292 --> 00:14:23,893 I don't want that to scratch me. 293 00:14:23,895 --> 00:14:25,295 Yeah, of course not. 294 00:14:25,297 --> 00:14:27,163 We're going to try to get rid of all the bad people here. 295 00:14:27,165 --> 00:14:29,365 Is that okay? 296 00:14:29,367 --> 00:14:30,766 Yeah. 297 00:14:30,768 --> 00:14:32,969 Yeah. 298 00:14:32,971 --> 00:14:35,772 So, Bella, do you mind if I finish talking to Mommy? 299 00:14:35,774 --> 00:14:38,908 Can you go with Grandma? That okay? 300 00:14:38,910 --> 00:14:41,578 Thank you, sweetheart. Okay, go down. 301 00:14:41,580 --> 00:14:43,379 Okay. Okay, go to Nonni. 302 00:14:43,381 --> 00:14:45,648 She's a very cute little girl. Thank you. 303 00:14:45,650 --> 00:14:47,784 She mentioned something about getting scratched. Yes. 304 00:14:47,786 --> 00:14:49,252 Have you seen that? Yes. 305 00:14:49,254 --> 00:14:51,054 We actually have a photo of it as well. 306 00:14:51,056 --> 00:14:53,923 - Do you have it with you? - Yes, I do. 307 00:14:53,925 --> 00:14:55,057 Here it is. 308 00:14:57,462 --> 00:15:00,863 So it sounds like what Bella is describing to you 309 00:15:00,865 --> 00:15:02,665 has got to be eating you up inside. 310 00:15:02,667 --> 00:15:04,134 Yeah. It scares me. 311 00:15:04,136 --> 00:15:05,601 It's like you're stuck in a horror movie, 312 00:15:05,603 --> 00:15:07,537 but you don't know the ending. 313 00:15:07,539 --> 00:15:08,671 Okay. 314 00:15:11,009 --> 00:15:14,177 Unh-unh. No, I don't like this. 315 00:15:16,414 --> 00:15:20,216 I see a little boy in here, like full-on, 316 00:15:20,218 --> 00:15:22,352 probably like 5 years old. 317 00:15:22,354 --> 00:15:25,087 I don't think it's a real child, 318 00:15:25,089 --> 00:15:29,559 so I think it's part of this negative entity that's here. 319 00:15:29,561 --> 00:15:30,760 What is he doing? 320 00:15:30,762 --> 00:15:33,229 I think he's hanging out with this kid. 321 00:15:33,231 --> 00:15:36,566 He goes under the bed, pushing on the bed... 322 00:15:39,037 --> 00:15:41,304 ...talking, constantly talking. 323 00:15:41,306 --> 00:15:42,838 See, the talking is bad. 324 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:46,376 He's causing the dreams, and it's bad. 325 00:15:46,378 --> 00:15:49,645 Like, that I'm getting. It's not good. 326 00:15:49,647 --> 00:15:51,180 I don't like this. 327 00:15:51,182 --> 00:15:53,649 My stomach doesn't feel good about this. 328 00:15:57,055 --> 00:15:58,921 Is this dangerous for them? 329 00:15:58,923 --> 00:16:02,091 Psychologically, it's damaging. 330 00:16:02,093 --> 00:16:08,130 It's feeding off of whoever is in this room. 331 00:16:09,601 --> 00:16:11,401 It's gaining strength, 332 00:16:11,403 --> 00:16:15,872 and ultimately it could lead to illnesses. 333 00:16:15,874 --> 00:16:17,473 I don't like that. 334 00:16:38,295 --> 00:16:41,029 Kerrie told me the previous owner died in the house. 335 00:16:41,031 --> 00:16:44,099 Now, clients usually get this kind of stuff wrong, 336 00:16:44,101 --> 00:16:46,168 but in this case, it checked out. 337 00:16:46,170 --> 00:16:49,505 I managed to track down two of the deceased owner's kids. 338 00:16:49,507 --> 00:16:50,906 They grew up in Kerrie's house 339 00:16:50,908 --> 00:16:53,375 and say two other family members died there, too. 340 00:17:00,117 --> 00:17:01,717 Thanks for meeting me. 341 00:17:01,719 --> 00:17:03,519 It's not often I get to meet previous homeowners 342 00:17:03,521 --> 00:17:05,053 of my client's house. 343 00:17:05,055 --> 00:17:07,388 So how has it been since either one of you were here? 344 00:17:07,390 --> 00:17:09,124 Since 1998. 345 00:17:09,126 --> 00:17:10,726 Did you guys grow up here? 346 00:17:10,728 --> 00:17:12,461 Yeah, we did. 347 00:17:12,463 --> 00:17:17,065 My mom and dad bought the house I think around 1952. 348 00:17:17,067 --> 00:17:21,135 This is a photo of the house taken in 1960. 349 00:17:21,137 --> 00:17:23,738 I hate to bring up sadness in your family, 350 00:17:23,740 --> 00:17:26,475 but I understand your mother actually died here. 351 00:17:26,477 --> 00:17:27,742 Yes. 352 00:17:27,744 --> 00:17:31,279 Mom passed in January of '98. 353 00:17:31,281 --> 00:17:33,748 Our mother's name was Verna Weissenburg. 354 00:17:33,750 --> 00:17:36,484 - Well, how old was she? - 79. 355 00:17:36,486 --> 00:17:37,886 And what was she like? 356 00:17:37,888 --> 00:17:41,422 She was quiet, loved to bake, 357 00:17:41,424 --> 00:17:43,091 made a lot of cookies. 358 00:17:43,093 --> 00:17:45,494 This is a photo of our mom and dad. 359 00:17:45,496 --> 00:17:48,430 When Dad died, she wanted to be here alone. 360 00:17:48,432 --> 00:17:51,232 Dad passed in 1997... 361 00:17:51,234 --> 00:17:52,634 Okay. ...in February. 362 00:17:52,636 --> 00:17:55,970 She called me a number of times after Dad had died, 363 00:17:55,972 --> 00:18:00,442 and she said, "How do you live, you know, without your spouse?" 364 00:18:00,444 --> 00:18:01,910 That was the worst. 365 00:18:01,912 --> 00:18:04,779 She never really got over Dad's death. 366 00:18:09,252 --> 00:18:11,987 I'm seeing that old dead lady again. 367 00:18:11,989 --> 00:18:14,523 This woman, to me, seems very -- 368 00:18:14,525 --> 00:18:18,326 She's very newly dead, within the last 20 years. 369 00:18:18,328 --> 00:18:21,329 And she's got curly gray hair. 370 00:18:21,331 --> 00:18:25,066 I'd say probably in her early 70s. 371 00:18:29,006 --> 00:18:30,739 The gray-haired lady 372 00:18:30,741 --> 00:18:33,808 had attachments directly to this house. 373 00:18:33,810 --> 00:18:35,877 With her, I'm getting the '90s. 374 00:18:38,415 --> 00:18:40,815 Now, you guys mentioned on the phone that there was -- 375 00:18:40,817 --> 00:18:42,884 You knew of, like, two other people that died in the house. 376 00:18:42,886 --> 00:18:44,352 Who was the first one? 377 00:18:44,354 --> 00:18:46,088 It was Ida Driscoll. 378 00:18:46,090 --> 00:18:48,290 She was our maternal grandmother. 379 00:18:48,292 --> 00:18:50,425 She died in 1938. 380 00:18:50,427 --> 00:18:54,362 Here's a photo of her and our mother, Verna. 381 00:18:54,364 --> 00:18:57,366 Ida passed before both of us were born. 382 00:18:57,368 --> 00:18:59,568 We don't know the cause of death. 383 00:18:59,570 --> 00:19:01,036 Okay, so that was the first one. 384 00:19:01,038 --> 00:19:02,571 Who was the second one that passed? 385 00:19:02,573 --> 00:19:04,840 Our grandfather, Henry Driscoll. 386 00:19:04,842 --> 00:19:07,909 Here's a photo of him when he was a young man. 387 00:19:07,911 --> 00:19:10,044 What kind of a man was he? 388 00:19:10,046 --> 00:19:12,447 He was little, hardworking. 389 00:19:12,449 --> 00:19:14,783 He worked at Spaulding Fibre. 390 00:19:14,785 --> 00:19:17,419 He was really a kind and gentle man. 391 00:19:17,421 --> 00:19:19,520 He was a good guy. 392 00:19:19,522 --> 00:19:21,857 How old was he when he passed? 81. 393 00:19:21,859 --> 00:19:27,929 He died in 1952 in this back bedroom back here. 394 00:19:27,931 --> 00:19:30,666 This is an obituary of Henry. 395 00:19:32,402 --> 00:19:35,002 This may sound weird, but I got to ask. 396 00:19:35,004 --> 00:19:37,472 During the time that you guys were living here, 397 00:19:37,474 --> 00:19:39,474 did anything strange or unusual happen 398 00:19:39,476 --> 00:19:41,076 that you couldn't explain? 399 00:19:41,078 --> 00:19:44,145 When I was a kid, I used to have some bad nightmares. 400 00:19:44,147 --> 00:19:45,680 What were they like? 401 00:19:45,682 --> 00:19:49,016 My arms were just -- They felt like lead weights. 402 00:19:49,018 --> 00:19:51,420 - And you couldn't pick them up? - No, not really. 403 00:19:51,422 --> 00:19:54,022 Strange. 404 00:19:54,024 --> 00:19:55,357 Okay. 405 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:58,960 There's another recent death here. 406 00:19:58,962 --> 00:20:01,630 I think it's the trucker guy from outside. 407 00:20:01,632 --> 00:20:03,832 I know he lived here at some point. 408 00:20:03,834 --> 00:20:05,901 I can say, like, either the person 409 00:20:05,903 --> 00:20:08,903 was dying or dead in this area 410 00:20:08,905 --> 00:20:11,372 because I feel that, 411 00:20:11,374 --> 00:20:13,642 and I feel nauseous. 412 00:20:18,248 --> 00:20:22,584 See, the dead guy comes in here a lot. 413 00:20:22,586 --> 00:20:24,786 Do you know if the living have any experiences with him? 414 00:20:24,788 --> 00:20:26,321 Maybe they'd see a man, 415 00:20:26,323 --> 00:20:28,723 seeing him out of the corner of their eyes. 416 00:20:28,725 --> 00:20:31,659 I didn't get any information on that from him. 417 00:20:31,661 --> 00:20:33,128 Why is it you're having such a hard time 418 00:20:33,130 --> 00:20:34,663 getting information from him? 419 00:20:34,665 --> 00:20:38,733 The nasty thing upstairs took his voice. 420 00:20:42,139 --> 00:20:44,272 Now, I just got a call back from a genealogist 421 00:20:44,274 --> 00:20:46,341 who says he did some digging. 422 00:20:46,343 --> 00:20:48,610 Turns out, a former owner of Kerrie's property 423 00:20:48,612 --> 00:20:51,813 lived a tragic life and died a painful death. 424 00:20:56,620 --> 00:20:58,353 You had mentioned on the phone this guy, Williams, 425 00:20:58,355 --> 00:21:00,221 had a pretty terrible life. 426 00:21:00,223 --> 00:21:02,957 Before we even get to that, what do you know about this guy? 427 00:21:02,959 --> 00:21:06,094 William Williams was born in Massachusetts... 428 00:21:06,096 --> 00:21:07,829 Okay. ...in 1786. 429 00:21:07,831 --> 00:21:10,498 He served as a colonel in the War of 1812. 430 00:21:10,500 --> 00:21:13,234 His business was book publishing, 431 00:21:13,236 --> 00:21:14,636 and he was very active in his church. 432 00:21:14,638 --> 00:21:17,572 He was the superintendent of the Sunday school. 433 00:21:17,574 --> 00:21:20,174 So what went wrong? What happened? 434 00:21:20,176 --> 00:21:24,779 He met and married Sophia Wells in 1811. 435 00:21:24,781 --> 00:21:27,715 14 children were born to that union. 436 00:21:27,717 --> 00:21:30,185 Unfortunately, only seven survived to adulthood. 437 00:21:30,187 --> 00:21:32,053 - Seven? - And it gets worse. 438 00:21:32,055 --> 00:21:34,856 During the birth of the 14th child, Sophia died 439 00:21:34,858 --> 00:21:37,058 as well, at age 40. All right. 440 00:21:37,060 --> 00:21:40,795 So in about 20 years, this guy lost seven kids and his wife? 441 00:21:40,797 --> 00:21:43,264 That's pretty tragic. What happens to him after that? 442 00:21:43,266 --> 00:21:45,200 He married the spinster daughter 443 00:21:45,202 --> 00:21:46,668 of one of his business associates. 444 00:21:46,670 --> 00:21:48,737 His name was Henry Huntington. 445 00:21:48,739 --> 00:21:50,805 - Okay. - Her name was Catherine, 446 00:21:50,807 --> 00:21:53,475 and so they were married in 1833. 447 00:21:53,477 --> 00:21:56,144 In 1834, his publishing business fails. 448 00:21:56,146 --> 00:22:00,215 He's forced to sell off his business to pay his debtors. 449 00:22:00,217 --> 00:22:02,483 His father-in-law, he steps in and says, 450 00:22:02,485 --> 00:22:04,352 "Well, let's help out here." 451 00:22:04,354 --> 00:22:08,356 In 1836, Henry Huntington bought your client's property. 452 00:22:08,358 --> 00:22:10,692 Okay, so Williams lived on the land, 453 00:22:10,694 --> 00:22:12,494 but his father-in-law owned it? 454 00:22:12,496 --> 00:22:14,763 - Yes. - Do things get better for him? 455 00:22:14,765 --> 00:22:16,498 Actually, they got worse. 456 00:22:16,500 --> 00:22:18,366 Shortly after they moved onto the property, 457 00:22:18,368 --> 00:22:20,302 Henry Huntington, his father-in-law, 458 00:22:20,304 --> 00:22:22,904 had him removed, so he became homeless. 459 00:22:22,906 --> 00:22:26,307 So basically his father-in-law kicks him off the property. 460 00:22:26,309 --> 00:22:27,576 Yeah. 461 00:22:27,578 --> 00:22:29,176 Does his wife stay with him through this? 462 00:22:29,178 --> 00:22:31,178 No. His wife, Catherine, 463 00:22:31,180 --> 00:22:33,582 moved back to Rome to take care of her father. 464 00:22:33,584 --> 00:22:35,116 What happens to him after that? 465 00:22:35,118 --> 00:22:39,254 In 1841, he buys a stagecoach ticket to be with his wife, 466 00:22:39,256 --> 00:22:41,923 and on the way, the stagecoach tips over. 467 00:22:41,925 --> 00:22:45,393 He lands on his head, and he suffers a brain injury, 468 00:22:45,395 --> 00:22:49,865 and his mental abilities were not what they used to be. 469 00:22:49,867 --> 00:22:51,866 This guy's got a black cloud on him. 470 00:22:51,868 --> 00:22:53,001 That's right. 471 00:22:53,003 --> 00:22:55,670 He becomes a recluse for the rest of his life. 472 00:22:55,672 --> 00:22:57,939 I've got an obituary here. 473 00:23:00,544 --> 00:23:03,278 He died in Utica, 63 years old, 474 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:07,282 in 1850, apparently penniless and alone. 475 00:23:12,489 --> 00:23:15,223 I just saw something really weird. 476 00:23:15,225 --> 00:23:18,292 It was a male who'd been skinned. 477 00:23:18,294 --> 00:23:22,297 He didn't have any flesh on his back, and I'm getting neck pain. 478 00:23:23,634 --> 00:23:26,301 I think this guy brought the negative entity here. 479 00:23:26,303 --> 00:23:31,973 I felt like it followed this person from another house. 480 00:23:31,975 --> 00:23:34,376 This guy used to have really strong ties 481 00:23:34,378 --> 00:23:35,777 to the church and youth. 482 00:23:38,782 --> 00:23:43,118 Something went wrong over, like, 483 00:23:43,120 --> 00:23:47,923 a deal with the business that used to be here. 484 00:23:47,925 --> 00:23:50,592 Do you have any idea how this guy died? 485 00:23:50,594 --> 00:23:54,595 I'm getting that neck pain, that lower head and neck pain. 486 00:23:54,597 --> 00:23:58,199 A fall could cause that, could cause that kind of damage. 487 00:24:00,603 --> 00:24:04,172 And it **** hurts like a ****. 488 00:24:04,174 --> 00:24:05,540 My God. 489 00:24:11,348 --> 00:24:13,615 For more information about the show, 490 00:24:13,617 --> 00:24:15,083 and if you need us to investigate 491 00:24:15,085 --> 00:24:16,885 unexplained activity in your home... 492 00:24:16,887 --> 00:24:20,422 Please visit travelchannel.com/thedeadfiles. 493 00:24:20,424 --> 00:24:21,822 Click on "Help me, Dead Files!" 494 00:24:21,824 --> 00:24:28,897 to submit your story, and we'll help if we can. 495 00:24:36,672 --> 00:24:38,738 So far, I've got a woman scared to death 496 00:24:38,740 --> 00:24:40,340 about the safety of her family 497 00:24:40,342 --> 00:24:43,343 in a house where at least three people have died, 498 00:24:43,345 --> 00:24:46,413 but I want to see if there's anything else. 499 00:24:46,415 --> 00:24:47,680 Searching through old records, 500 00:24:47,682 --> 00:24:49,415 I find the murder of a little girl 501 00:24:49,417 --> 00:24:52,352 that took place in the 1890s. 502 00:24:52,354 --> 00:24:55,555 Turns out, it happened right in my client's neighborhood. 503 00:24:57,959 --> 00:25:00,026 So I'm heading over to meet this local journalist 504 00:25:00,028 --> 00:25:01,627 who knows all about this case. 505 00:25:01,629 --> 00:25:04,964 Now, he says this story has a lot of twists and turns 506 00:25:04,966 --> 00:25:06,832 and that locals were stunned when they found out 507 00:25:06,834 --> 00:25:08,768 who actually killed this poor girl. 508 00:25:15,978 --> 00:25:18,578 Well, Jeff, I appreciate you helping me out with this case. 509 00:25:18,580 --> 00:25:20,313 So walk me through this crazy murder. 510 00:25:20,315 --> 00:25:25,918 On July 8, 1892, there was a young 2-year-old girl. 511 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:27,654 Her name was Lowena Stermer, 512 00:25:27,656 --> 00:25:29,455 and she was playing in the neighborhood, 513 00:25:29,457 --> 00:25:31,724 and when she came home, her mother looked at her, 514 00:25:31,726 --> 00:25:33,126 and she's deathly pale. 515 00:25:33,128 --> 00:25:35,262 She's got black circles around her eyes. 516 00:25:35,264 --> 00:25:37,597 Her mother brought in a doctor, 517 00:25:37,599 --> 00:25:40,667 and the doctor thought, "This is probably cholera," 518 00:25:40,669 --> 00:25:43,003 but unfortunately, by 10 p.m. that night, 519 00:25:43,005 --> 00:25:45,338 Lowena Stermer is dead. 520 00:25:45,340 --> 00:25:48,808 We know Lowena was murdered. So how'd they figure that out? 521 00:25:48,810 --> 00:25:50,343 Because 5 days later, 522 00:25:50,345 --> 00:25:51,945 three other kids in the neighborhood 523 00:25:51,947 --> 00:25:54,880 got sick as well, through similar symptoms, 524 00:25:54,882 --> 00:25:58,618 but they all survived their ailments after some vomiting. 525 00:25:58,620 --> 00:26:00,753 How did they eventually make a collar on this? 526 00:26:00,755 --> 00:26:03,423 When the kids were asked what was going on, 527 00:26:03,425 --> 00:26:06,426 they talk about having been given a cocoa drink 528 00:26:06,428 --> 00:26:08,561 by another neighborhood girl, 529 00:26:08,563 --> 00:26:11,364 a 14-year-old named Ella Holdridge. 530 00:26:11,366 --> 00:26:14,567 Ella was questioned, and eventually she did confess 531 00:26:14,569 --> 00:26:19,172 to mixing rat poison into drinks and giving it to these kids. 532 00:26:19,174 --> 00:26:21,908 You're kidding? Any idea what the motive was? 533 00:26:21,910 --> 00:26:26,446 Ella was fascinated with death, the macabre. 534 00:26:26,448 --> 00:26:27,847 She loved coffins. 535 00:26:27,849 --> 00:26:31,985 She loved corpses, and she wanted to see a pretty corpse, 536 00:26:31,987 --> 00:26:34,854 and I have an article here that shows you that 537 00:26:34,856 --> 00:26:36,756 while the 2-year-old was sick, 538 00:26:36,758 --> 00:26:37,857 Ella would sneak out of her house 539 00:26:37,859 --> 00:26:39,725 and go look in the neighbor's window. 540 00:26:39,727 --> 00:26:42,395 She came back home and told her stepmother gleefully, 541 00:26:42,397 --> 00:26:44,130 "It looks like she's going to die." 542 00:26:44,132 --> 00:26:48,001 This is some, you know, serial killer type mentality 543 00:26:48,003 --> 00:26:49,335 in a 14-year-old girl. 544 00:26:49,337 --> 00:26:52,472 Yeah, and this all happened a few hundred yards 545 00:26:52,474 --> 00:26:54,741 from the property you're investigating. 546 00:26:54,743 --> 00:26:56,743 So what happens to this psychopath? 547 00:26:56,745 --> 00:26:59,479 She was actually taken to a reformery 548 00:26:59,481 --> 00:27:00,813 right outside of Buffalo, 549 00:27:00,815 --> 00:27:04,084 but ultimately she was never prosecuted. 550 00:27:04,086 --> 00:27:06,152 All right, so basically, she commits murder. 551 00:27:06,154 --> 00:27:07,887 She doesn't get convicted of anything, 552 00:27:07,889 --> 00:27:09,455 I guess because of the age, 553 00:27:09,457 --> 00:27:12,158 and she winds up living a normal life after that? 554 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:13,426 Yeah. 555 00:27:17,565 --> 00:27:19,632 Something went wrong. 556 00:27:19,634 --> 00:27:22,301 It does have to do with the neighborhood. 557 00:27:22,303 --> 00:27:24,237 People were yelling and panicking... 558 00:27:26,708 --> 00:27:28,308 ...screaming, "Help me! Help me!" 559 00:27:28,310 --> 00:27:30,109 Screaming, yelling, crying, 560 00:27:30,111 --> 00:27:33,512 and there is something with a hospital. 561 00:27:33,514 --> 00:27:36,783 I'm seeing three babies that were dead. 562 00:27:36,785 --> 00:27:38,318 It's really bad. 563 00:27:50,432 --> 00:27:53,666 I saw several disturbing things during my walk, 564 00:27:53,668 --> 00:27:55,801 but the dead little boy tormenting 565 00:27:55,803 --> 00:27:59,939 a living girl upstairs had me the most concerned. 566 00:27:59,941 --> 00:28:06,079 She's lying on the bed, and he is lifting this bed, 567 00:28:06,081 --> 00:28:08,815 freaking out the little girl. 568 00:28:08,817 --> 00:28:10,483 Yeah, maybe do the bed bigger. 569 00:28:10,485 --> 00:28:12,485 Okay. 570 00:28:12,487 --> 00:28:18,291 Across from the bed is, like, this unnatural blackness. 571 00:28:18,293 --> 00:28:21,428 The little boy under the bed, he's part of it. 572 00:28:26,768 --> 00:28:28,634 Amy, is this what you saw? 573 00:28:31,706 --> 00:28:33,173 Yes. 574 00:28:48,488 --> 00:28:51,422 Now that Amy and I have completed our investigations, 575 00:28:51,424 --> 00:28:53,625 we're ready to reveal our findings to each other 576 00:28:53,627 --> 00:28:56,828 and our clients for the first time. 577 00:28:56,830 --> 00:29:00,598 So, Amy, this is Kerrie, and this is her daughter, Kayli. 578 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,167 Now, a few months ago, Kayli here moved in 579 00:29:03,169 --> 00:29:05,036 with her 3- year-old daughter, Bella. 580 00:29:05,038 --> 00:29:07,104 Basically, Bella is the reason that we're here. 581 00:29:07,106 --> 00:29:09,707 Since they came back, activity has been violent, 582 00:29:09,709 --> 00:29:13,044 and these two don't think it's safe for anyone to be here. 583 00:29:13,046 --> 00:29:15,513 So now that Amy knows who you guys are, 584 00:29:15,515 --> 00:29:17,648 I'll ask her to describe her walk for us. 585 00:29:21,388 --> 00:29:25,656 When I went down into the basement, 586 00:29:25,658 --> 00:29:29,193 there was an overwhelming amount of energy, 587 00:29:29,195 --> 00:29:32,997 and it just got progressively more intense 588 00:29:32,999 --> 00:29:37,134 as I went into the bedroom. 589 00:29:37,136 --> 00:29:41,072 And the energy I was picking up 590 00:29:41,074 --> 00:29:45,009 was coming from a living person 591 00:29:45,011 --> 00:29:47,612 that is down there. 592 00:29:47,614 --> 00:29:52,883 I felt that that individual is a physical medium. 593 00:29:54,620 --> 00:29:56,287 First I got that this was a female, 594 00:29:56,289 --> 00:29:59,357 and then I was leaning towards a male. 595 00:29:59,359 --> 00:30:01,692 Amy, there's something you ought to know about that room. 596 00:30:01,694 --> 00:30:03,361 Up until a few months ago, Kerrie's son, 597 00:30:03,363 --> 00:30:05,497 Keenan, was living down there. 598 00:30:05,499 --> 00:30:08,500 Now, he told me while he was there, he felt drained 599 00:30:08,502 --> 00:30:10,301 and like he had been hit by a truck. 600 00:30:10,303 --> 00:30:11,435 Yeah. 601 00:30:11,437 --> 00:30:12,837 It got so bad he actually moved out. 602 00:30:12,839 --> 00:30:14,439 That makes sense. 603 00:30:14,441 --> 00:30:16,441 So you said you couldn't tell if it was a male or a female, 604 00:30:16,443 --> 00:30:18,309 but Kayli lives down there now. Okay. 605 00:30:18,311 --> 00:30:21,112 And she's having a bunch of experiences. 606 00:30:21,114 --> 00:30:24,449 Could one of them be a medium, or both? 607 00:30:24,451 --> 00:30:28,586 It would be likely that you are both sensitives. 608 00:30:30,990 --> 00:30:33,725 - I'm not surprised. - Okay. 609 00:30:33,727 --> 00:30:35,259 We see people, like, 610 00:30:35,261 --> 00:30:38,062 all the time and feel people all the time. 611 00:30:38,064 --> 00:30:39,264 It's overwhelming. 612 00:30:43,069 --> 00:30:45,202 So what else? 613 00:30:45,204 --> 00:30:48,072 Coming around to the front stairs, 614 00:30:48,074 --> 00:30:56,614 I got hit with this intense residual event that took place. 615 00:30:56,616 --> 00:31:01,086 I saw a female rushing down the stairs, 616 00:31:01,088 --> 00:31:02,821 and she was freaking out. 617 00:31:02,823 --> 00:31:05,022 People would feel it, 618 00:31:05,024 --> 00:31:08,560 the rushing or feeling like a slight pushing. 619 00:31:08,562 --> 00:31:13,498 Tell Amy about you getting pushed into the stairs. 620 00:31:13,500 --> 00:31:15,766 As I turned to walk up the stairs, 621 00:31:15,768 --> 00:31:18,436 I could feel this rush. 622 00:31:18,438 --> 00:31:20,571 And I literally, like, fell into the stairs. 623 00:31:20,573 --> 00:31:22,640 Okay. 624 00:31:22,642 --> 00:31:24,576 I see what's going on here now. 625 00:31:31,118 --> 00:31:34,718 The next person I want to talk to you about 626 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:38,656 is a dead male that I encountered. 627 00:31:38,658 --> 00:31:40,525 I kept calling him the trucker 628 00:31:40,527 --> 00:31:42,460 because that's what he reminded me off. 629 00:31:42,462 --> 00:31:44,729 He seemed to be in his 40s, 630 00:31:44,731 --> 00:31:47,932 and he was indicating to me that he lived here at some point. 631 00:31:47,934 --> 00:31:53,003 I think he either died here, or he began his dying process here. 632 00:31:53,005 --> 00:31:55,540 He can go everywhere, 633 00:31:55,542 --> 00:32:00,678 but he enjoys being in this bedroom down here. 634 00:32:02,749 --> 00:32:04,282 You may perceive it as more of like 635 00:32:04,284 --> 00:32:08,019 a dark figure versus a male. 636 00:32:08,021 --> 00:32:09,354 Um... 637 00:32:09,356 --> 00:32:11,823 when I sit on the couch, 638 00:32:11,825 --> 00:32:15,626 I can see into the reflection of the china closet. 639 00:32:15,628 --> 00:32:17,962 I can see just there's a shadow fig-- Gotcha. 640 00:32:17,964 --> 00:32:22,100 Like a man, and he stands, like, in front of the kitchen. 641 00:32:22,102 --> 00:32:25,503 I have a pretty good idea of who you might have seen. 642 00:32:25,505 --> 00:32:28,306 So the guy I'm thinking of is named Henry Driscoll. 643 00:32:28,308 --> 00:32:31,910 Now, he's the guy that built this house back in 1916, 644 00:32:31,912 --> 00:32:35,980 and at the time he built the house, he was 45. 645 00:32:35,982 --> 00:32:38,850 I got a photo of him when he was young. 646 00:32:38,852 --> 00:32:40,518 This is Henry. 647 00:32:43,790 --> 00:32:46,391 So I spoke to the grandkids, 648 00:32:46,393 --> 00:32:49,260 and they said he was a real blue-collar guy. 649 00:32:49,262 --> 00:32:52,130 He actually worked his whole career in a factory in town. 650 00:32:52,132 --> 00:32:54,032 He had lived in this house for over 35 years. 651 00:32:54,034 --> 00:32:57,936 Now, we don't know what the exact cause of death was, 652 00:32:57,938 --> 00:33:01,739 but we know he was bedridden here in his final years. 653 00:33:01,741 --> 00:33:05,477 So Henry wound up dying in 1952 right in that back bedroom. 654 00:33:05,479 --> 00:33:07,679 Okay, that makes sense. 655 00:33:10,216 --> 00:33:12,750 Is there anything else? 656 00:33:12,752 --> 00:33:15,820 I did encounter an old woman. 657 00:33:15,822 --> 00:33:18,155 She looked to me to be in her 70s. 658 00:33:18,157 --> 00:33:21,559 She has glasses. She has gray hair. 659 00:33:21,561 --> 00:33:24,629 She lived here in the 1990s. 660 00:33:26,299 --> 00:33:29,033 Okay. 661 00:33:29,035 --> 00:33:32,836 So -- And I'm pretty sure she died within the last 20 years, 662 00:33:32,838 --> 00:33:36,707 and I got a stroke or a heart attack. 663 00:33:36,709 --> 00:33:38,242 I'm pretty sure I know who you saw. 664 00:33:38,244 --> 00:33:41,111 I'm guessing Kerrie does, as well. 665 00:33:41,113 --> 00:33:42,380 The previous owner of this house 666 00:33:42,382 --> 00:33:45,115 was a woman named Verna Weissenburg. 667 00:33:45,117 --> 00:33:47,384 Now, Verna was Henry Driscoll's daughter. 668 00:33:48,989 --> 00:33:52,256 She was born in this house, and she died in this house. 669 00:33:52,258 --> 00:33:53,992 Now, you said the woman lived here in the '90s. 670 00:33:53,994 --> 00:33:56,461 Verna died over here in the kitchen in 1998. 671 00:33:58,465 --> 00:34:00,331 Said she was in her 70s. 672 00:34:00,333 --> 00:34:03,134 Verna was 79 when she died in this house. 673 00:34:03,136 --> 00:34:07,738 One of the kids gave me a photo of Verna. 674 00:34:07,740 --> 00:34:09,140 This is her right here. 675 00:34:09,142 --> 00:34:11,342 Do you think this is who you saw? 676 00:34:11,344 --> 00:34:14,278 I think it's her. 677 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:18,549 So her thing is, is that she gets irritated 678 00:34:18,551 --> 00:34:20,484 with the living people here. 679 00:34:20,486 --> 00:34:24,088 She is in the big bedroom upstairs 680 00:34:24,090 --> 00:34:26,824 pretty much all the time. 681 00:34:26,826 --> 00:34:29,493 - That's Kerrie's room. - Okay. 682 00:34:29,495 --> 00:34:32,163 She does stare at the living, 683 00:34:32,165 --> 00:34:34,032 and she does it intently. 684 00:34:35,568 --> 00:34:38,770 And she did show me 685 00:34:38,772 --> 00:34:43,174 her...holding... 686 00:34:43,176 --> 00:34:48,446 I guess you down in the bed up there. 687 00:34:48,448 --> 00:34:52,583 So the one night I was laying, and I woke up, and I, like, 688 00:34:52,585 --> 00:34:55,519 felt being, like, watched, and I couldn't breathe. 689 00:34:55,521 --> 00:34:57,255 I couldn't move. I couldn't yell. 690 00:34:57,257 --> 00:35:01,058 I couldn't do anything, and all I kept thinking was, 691 00:35:01,060 --> 00:35:05,263 "My God. Like, the house is finally -- 692 00:35:05,265 --> 00:35:06,731 It's going to kill me." 693 00:35:11,470 --> 00:35:14,538 So this is all Verna holding her down. 694 00:35:14,540 --> 00:35:16,007 The feeling of being watched... 695 00:35:16,009 --> 00:35:17,408 - Yes. - ...is all Verna? 696 00:35:17,410 --> 00:35:19,109 Yes. 697 00:35:22,682 --> 00:35:25,283 But she's not what I'm concerned about. 698 00:35:25,285 --> 00:35:27,085 I'm worried about the entity 699 00:35:27,087 --> 00:35:30,354 that I saw in the upstairs hallway. 700 00:35:30,356 --> 00:35:33,157 This is just a mass of negative energy. 701 00:35:33,159 --> 00:35:35,893 Like, there's no real shape to it. 702 00:35:35,895 --> 00:35:38,496 It's just this blackness. 703 00:35:38,498 --> 00:35:41,032 I think a previous owner brought it here. 704 00:35:41,034 --> 00:35:42,700 It's powerful. 705 00:35:42,702 --> 00:35:46,304 It does on occasion make a lot of noise. 706 00:35:46,306 --> 00:35:48,840 I'm looking out at the hallway, and all I'm hearing is, like, 707 00:35:48,842 --> 00:35:52,243 yelling, screaming, knocking sounds, commotion. 708 00:35:52,245 --> 00:35:56,080 I hear knocking on my bedroom door. 709 00:35:56,082 --> 00:35:57,915 You hear knocking all around the house, 710 00:35:57,917 --> 00:36:00,384 banging all around the house. 711 00:36:00,386 --> 00:36:01,652 It can take your energy, 712 00:36:01,654 --> 00:36:04,522 which then can break down your immune system. 713 00:36:04,524 --> 00:36:06,123 Your immune system goes. 714 00:36:06,125 --> 00:36:08,726 You start getting sick. You start getting sick. 715 00:36:08,728 --> 00:36:11,396 You start getting seriously sick. 716 00:36:11,398 --> 00:36:12,996 Your health has been declining, Kerrie, right? 717 00:36:12,998 --> 00:36:14,198 Yes. 718 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:17,134 I have epilepsy since I've been 6, 719 00:36:17,136 --> 00:36:21,272 but over the past 4 years, like, it's gotten worse, 720 00:36:21,274 --> 00:36:23,941 and the doctors are just... 721 00:36:23,943 --> 00:36:27,078 like, don't even know what to do. 722 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:31,281 Also, what this thing can do is borrow forms, 723 00:36:31,283 --> 00:36:35,086 and it can appear good, bad, ugly. 724 00:36:35,088 --> 00:36:36,821 Remember you thought you saw your father? 725 00:36:36,823 --> 00:36:38,956 - Yes. - Tell Amy what happened. 726 00:36:38,958 --> 00:36:41,759 I was sleeping in this back room over here. 727 00:36:41,761 --> 00:36:44,162 I heard the door open, and it sounded like he was talking. 728 00:36:44,164 --> 00:36:46,831 I opened my eyes. It looked like him. 729 00:36:46,833 --> 00:36:48,566 Closed my eyes, opened my eyes back up, he wasn't there. 730 00:36:48,568 --> 00:36:50,234 Door was shut. Nobody was there. 731 00:36:50,236 --> 00:36:53,904 So this darkness thing borrowed Tom's likeness? 732 00:36:53,906 --> 00:36:55,706 Yes. 733 00:36:55,708 --> 00:36:58,242 Did this thing appear to you in any other way? 734 00:36:58,244 --> 00:37:01,912 I went into the middle bedroom. 735 00:37:01,914 --> 00:37:03,914 Bella's room. 736 00:37:03,916 --> 00:37:09,253 I was in the closet, and I saw this little boy. 737 00:37:09,255 --> 00:37:13,323 Kayli, you tell Amy about the little boy Bella sees. 738 00:37:13,325 --> 00:37:15,593 - So she does see a little boy? - Yeah. 739 00:37:15,595 --> 00:37:19,463 She says that he lives in her closet, 740 00:37:19,465 --> 00:37:23,267 and she says that he lives next to her bed. 741 00:37:23,269 --> 00:37:26,470 She gets hit in the face. She's been scratched. 742 00:37:26,472 --> 00:37:28,673 She's been punched in the stomach. 743 00:37:28,675 --> 00:37:31,876 - So I actually have a photo. - This is a scratch she got. 744 00:37:36,015 --> 00:37:39,083 I saw him going under the bed. 745 00:37:39,085 --> 00:37:42,887 He goes under the bed, pushing on the bed... 746 00:37:45,024 --> 00:37:47,291 ...talking, constantly talking. 747 00:37:47,293 --> 00:37:49,760 See, the talking is bad. 748 00:37:49,762 --> 00:37:53,497 What I was seeing was that this little dead child 749 00:37:53,499 --> 00:37:58,569 was causing the living child horrible nightmares. 750 00:37:58,571 --> 00:37:59,903 She was having nightmares so bad 751 00:37:59,905 --> 00:38:02,974 that she sleeps in Kerrie's room now. 752 00:38:02,976 --> 00:38:07,011 I did have a sketch done of what I saw. 753 00:38:13,787 --> 00:38:15,853 Annoying little ****, right? 754 00:38:25,064 --> 00:38:26,798 I mean, she's a baby. 755 00:38:33,606 --> 00:38:37,208 That's what she describes. 756 00:38:37,210 --> 00:38:38,943 She's been going through a lot, that kid. 757 00:38:43,683 --> 00:38:45,683 She said the only time that he ever leaves her alone 758 00:38:45,685 --> 00:38:48,018 is when she tries to close her eyes, 759 00:38:48,020 --> 00:38:51,688 but clearly he's not leaving her alone. 760 00:38:51,690 --> 00:38:56,961 She is, like, a little, tiny supernova of energy, 761 00:38:56,963 --> 00:39:01,365 and this thing is attracted to that 762 00:39:01,367 --> 00:39:05,036 because it can feed off of that energy. 763 00:39:05,038 --> 00:39:10,107 This is like an extremely detrimental situation for her, 764 00:39:10,109 --> 00:39:13,710 not only physically but mentally. 765 00:39:13,712 --> 00:39:17,248 This is incredibly dangerous. 766 00:39:39,471 --> 00:39:43,473 So, Kerrie, Kayli, you both got a lot of information tonight 767 00:39:43,475 --> 00:39:46,609 and probably a hell of a lot more than you bargained for, 768 00:39:46,611 --> 00:39:49,079 but now you know who's terrorizing Bella 769 00:39:49,081 --> 00:39:51,013 and destroying your health. 770 00:39:51,015 --> 00:39:53,283 But we still haven't answered your biggest question -- 771 00:39:53,285 --> 00:39:55,485 Is there anything you can do to fix this? 772 00:39:55,487 --> 00:39:57,087 For that answer, I'm going to turn it over to Amy. 773 00:40:02,427 --> 00:40:06,095 This negative energy that is attached to Bella 774 00:40:06,097 --> 00:40:08,431 needs to be removed, 775 00:40:08,433 --> 00:40:10,900 so I'd like you to find a Reiki master 776 00:40:10,902 --> 00:40:13,503 who is also a psychic, 777 00:40:13,505 --> 00:40:17,774 and I want Bella to go 778 00:40:17,776 --> 00:40:20,776 and have any and all cords 779 00:40:20,778 --> 00:40:24,513 from this negative energy removed. 780 00:40:24,515 --> 00:40:31,254 The next step is for the same Reiki master psychic 781 00:40:31,256 --> 00:40:37,327 to come to the house and collect all of the negative energy 782 00:40:37,329 --> 00:40:41,264 that's in this house from every nook and cranny. 783 00:40:41,266 --> 00:40:43,466 Once this thing's out of the house, 784 00:40:43,468 --> 00:40:46,135 you'll notice a big difference. 785 00:40:46,137 --> 00:40:47,937 Now, will this get rid of all the dead people here? 786 00:40:47,939 --> 00:40:49,939 Yes. 787 00:40:49,941 --> 00:40:55,077 And once the Reiki master has completed their session, 788 00:40:55,079 --> 00:40:58,548 Bella can easily come back. 789 00:40:58,550 --> 00:41:02,618 The other thing I would like you guys to do 790 00:41:02,620 --> 00:41:08,692 is a specific grounding meditation one time per week. 791 00:41:08,694 --> 00:41:12,495 It temporarily shuts you down. 792 00:41:12,497 --> 00:41:15,465 Now, by doing this, 793 00:41:15,467 --> 00:41:20,770 the dead are going to see a sign going up 794 00:41:20,772 --> 00:41:22,438 that says, "Closed." 795 00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:24,641 Okay? 796 00:41:24,643 --> 00:41:28,244 And they're going to leave. 797 00:41:28,246 --> 00:41:29,846 I mean, are you going to do what Amy tells you? 798 00:41:29,848 --> 00:41:30,981 100 percent. Yeah. 799 00:41:30,983 --> 00:41:32,449 Definitely. 800 00:41:32,451 --> 00:41:36,852 If it means Bella being safe, we would do whatever it took. 801 00:41:36,854 --> 00:41:40,990 I really hope Kerrie and Kayli follow all of my advice. 802 00:41:40,992 --> 00:41:45,394 If they do, they'll be able to live in their house in peace, 803 00:41:45,396 --> 00:41:48,798 and most importantly, Bella will have a normal childhood. 804 00:41:56,408 --> 00:41:58,874 Hi, guys. I wanted to give you a quick update and let you know 805 00:41:58,876 --> 00:42:00,676 how things were going here at the house. 806 00:42:00,678 --> 00:42:02,078 Claire came by yesterday, 807 00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:05,482 and she cleansed the house of all the negativity, 808 00:42:05,484 --> 00:42:06,749 and everyone slept great. 809 00:42:06,751 --> 00:42:08,151 We all slept through the night. 810 00:42:08,153 --> 00:42:10,153 There were no nightmares or anything. 811 00:42:10,155 --> 00:42:12,889 Bella feels great sleeping in her room by herself, 812 00:42:12,891 --> 00:42:15,959 so it's wonderful, so thank you so much for all of your help. 813 00:42:15,961 --> 00:42:18,094 We are so appreciative. Thank you so much. 814 00:42:18,144 --> 00:42:22,694 Repair and Synchronization by Easy Subtitles Synchronizer 1.0.0.0 62953

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