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The dead guy comes in here a lot.

He's gaining strength.

I felt two hands push me into the stairs.

He's hanging out with his kid.

He scratch.

He goes under the bed, pushing on the bed.

This is serial killer mentality.

This is incredibly dangerous.

I don't like this.

And I just feel...fear.

My name is Amy Allan.

This is like Grand Central Station for the dead.

I see dead people.

They have pain that they suffered.

I speak to dead people.

She hates them, hates them.

And they speak to me.

But there's only one way to know if my findings are real.

It's a demon.

It's Satan.

I rely on my partner.

I'm Steve Di Schiavi.

I'm a retired New York City homicide detective.

What was the body count? What happened?

And I know every person, every house has secrets.

I don't know if it's a demon or not,

but it sure as hell looks like one.

It's my job to reveal them.

I feel like I'm crazy.

But Steve and I never speak...

We never communicate during an investigation...

...until the very end.

I want to show you this.

...when we uncover if it's safe for you to stay...

I just don't want anything to happen to my mother.

Or time to get out.

You have to get out.

I'm up here in Tonawanda, New York.

It's just outside of Buffalo.

I got a call from a woman named Kerrie.

Now, she's had activity in her house forever.

She's used to it, but a few months ago all hell broke loose.

She says it's getting worse by the day, and if we can't help,

someone's going to get badly hurt.

Before Amy arrives, I look for any leading information.

This home has a lot of family photographs and furniture

that could influence her findings,

so it's important that I cover or remove them all.

When I'm done, the location will be ready for tonight's walk.

I don't like this.

Immediately coming in here, I'm getting, like, head pain...

This hurts.

...feeling extremely sad, a lot of depression,

a lot of depression here.

It's, like, never-ending. That makes me nervous.

So, Kerrie, when we spoke on the phone,

it sounded to me like you're at the end of your rope.

What's going on in this house?

The activity is crazy.

As a mom, I should be able to protect my children

and my granddaughter, and I feel like I can't do that.

Okay.

Any information about the house

that you might know, any history?

We were told the previous owner had passed away in the home.

Her name was Verna.

Interesting. Okay. I'll look into that.

You've been here a while, right?

Yes, since '98. I remember you saying

that you've always had activity, right? Yes, yes.

It was small things, like you would maybe

hear a little bit of walking or something.

Well, what changed?

My daughter and granddaughter moved back in

about 2 months ago, and it's been unbearable.

It's every single day.

Now, who all lives in the house with you?

- It is my husband, Tom. - Okay.

That's myself, our granddaughter, Bella,

and that's our daughter, Kayli.

And how old is Bella now?

She's 31/2.

Okay. I have a son, Keenan.

He actually lived here, but he had to leave.

He couldn't take it anymore.

He left because of the activity?

- Yes. - Do me a favor.

Give me a list of what is going on in the house.

We hear voices.

Things are moving, shadow figures, physical attacks.

My health issues have been getting worse.

Anything specific?

Well, I've always had epilepsy, but since the last 4 years,

the seizures have been getting out of control.

I assume you're seeing doctors about your physical problems.

- Yes. - So what are they telling you?

They're at their wit's end. They don't know what's going on,

and I really do feel like someone

or something is trying to kill me

or seriously injury me slowly,

and then if I die, like,

then it's going to move on to Bella.

Okay.

Shh.

There's an older dead woman here who's pissed off.

She's very upset.

I think she might be causing a lot of problems here.

There's a dead male here, too.

He just reminds me of somebody who would drive a truck.

I think that he comes out here to, like, escape the chaos.

He was saying that this has been going on for a while

and that it's been getting worse.

Do you know if the living have any experiences with him?

I think that they have seen him.

I think that they're catching him

out of the corner of their eye

when he's, you know, walking out or walking back in.

Okay, so what's going on in this room?

I was sitting here on this love seat,

and I seen a reflection in the china closet,

in the glass, of a man, like a shadow figure.

Okay. Did you investigate?

Yes, I got up, and I went, and no one was in the house.

And how often does that happen?

I would say it's probably happened at least

six times in a year.

Anything else?

The stairs are a big problem here in the house.

I was coming up the staircase, like from doing laundry,

and when I turned to come up the stairs,

I felt, like, a rush come up behind me,

and then I felt two hands push me actually into the stairs.

Okay. Did you get hurt?

No, I caught myself on the stairs.

A lot of issues with the stairs.

For a very long time, they've been a problem.

Okay, imprint, residual, I'm getting somebody, a female,

running down the stairs, yelling and screaming,

"My God."

Trying to find somebody,

somebody who's down here who's in trouble.

This residual's very... tangible.

If the living are exposed to this,

I think that they would feel like kind of a pressure,

and that might cause them to have accidents.

It's really bad.

Okay, so what's going on up here?

One day, I was in Bella's room rocking her to sleep,

and I felt this scratch.

So when this scratch occurred, how'd it feel to you?

Like a burn.

After I had the scratch, that's when I said, "That's it.

Bella's not sleeping in here anymore."

As you can see, we have, like, a little bed

over here for Bella. I see that.

She sleeps with us now

just because the activity has gotten so crazy.

This is not good.

Yeah. Anything else?

I would have to say the worst thing that's happened to me

is one night we were laying in bed,

and the next thing I knew, I was literally being held down.

I couldn't breathe. I couldn't move.

I couldn't do anything.

All I kept thinking was, "I'm going to die.

They're finally killing me. Like, they're killing me,

and no one's going to ever know."

The person here, they are, like, paralyzed,

and they're panicked, and they're freaking out.

The old lady is the one doing this.

She does do stuff when she gets frustrated and upset,

so this person's had nightmares,

feeling like they're being kind of stalked,

oftentimes scared.

So with all this crap going on,

how the hell are you sleeping at night?

I'm really not. I have nightmares all the time.

So I know you're on medication for your illnesses.-

Any of those medications possibly causing hallucinations?

No, that's not a side effect of the medicines that I'm on.

- Okay, so that's ruled out? - Yes.

Anyone else experiencing nightmares like you?

Bella actually has night terrors,

like really bad, bad night terrors,

and she will scream her head off.

Amy may turn around and tell you,

"Listen, this place is too dangerous."

This is our house, and we'll do whatever to stay.

The hallway is engulfed with this thing, and it's all black.

I don't like this.

What the **** is this thing?

All I know is that this dark entity is very negative

and very bad.

It's feeding off of energy,

which can wreck the immune system.

You know, things like that are already occurring,

and they could be susceptible to all kinds of illnesses

which could, you know, land somebody

in the hospital or worse.

So, Keenan, I understand you moved out recently

because of the paranormal activity.

Mostly because of it, yes.

Obviously, if paranormal activity

had a reason for you moving out, you must have had experiences.

Yes. Okay, so let's talk about a couple of them.

I mean, just always feeling like I was being watched.

I never felt, like, at ease.

Like, I always had to look over my shoulder.

Like, "What's behind me?"

What's that feel like for you?

Like, you know, you're walking down the street,

and people are walking behind you.

You're like, "What's going to happen right now?"

Okay, anything else?

Well, for example, Monday night when I left here,

I went home and just felt horrible,

just like I got ran over by a truck,

just couldn't really walk well.

I just -- drained.

When you were here that day, how long were you here?

Three hours.

Just -- It was the worst I've ever felt.

I felt like a 90-year-old man.

What do you think is going on in this house?

I mean, what's your opinion?

I mean, there's definitely some negative energy,

something just that doesn't belong.

I don't like it down here at all.

This room is just filled

with horrible, chaotic,

stagnant energy.

Like, you can't even breathe in here.

Like, it's making me physically sick.

Whoever's here in this room is a sensitive.

I would think a woman was here,

but I'm getting a male with this.

A male in this space, a living male,

this person's hearing stuff all the time, all the time.

Could be a physical medium. They're freaking themselves out.

It's not good for them at all.

Kayli, you know, Mom called us in,

and she's concerned about your daughter, Bella.

Yeah. It's not a good way for your child to have a childhood.

You know, Mom told me about her experiences,

but I'm curious about yours.

Have you had any?

Yeah, I've had multiple experiences in the house.

I've seen shadow people.

I've seen apparitions of people.

Now, anything specific that stands out to you?

I actually seen one that looked like my dad.

I was sleeping in one of the downstairs rooms,

and I thought I heard talking and the door open.

It looked like my dad standing there, and he was talking to me,

and when I opened my eyes completely,

there was nothing there, and the door was shut.

Where was your father?

He was sleeping up here in his room.

It was just scary, awful feeling.

Anything else?

When I'm sleeping in my room, I hear a lot of,

like, knocking on my door,

and I will go to open it, and nobody will be there.

Now, what kind of knocking are we talking about?

Like, a hard knock or just like a...

No. It would be kind of, I guess,

you would say like a kid would be knocking.

Okay, so are you thinking maybe it's Bella?

I have thought that before, and when I open the door,

nobody's there.

This dark, negative entity is making a lot of noise here.

Can you describe the sounds it's making in the hall?

Man. It just sounded like chaos.

Taps on the walls, like, knocking on the walls,

bangs against the walls,

like as if two people were fighting in the hallway.

That's what it sounds like.

So, Kayli, when you're talking to Bella,

does she explain to you what the hell's going on?

She always talks about a little boy that lives in her closet.

Okay.

I mean, do you think she'd tell me what's going on?

She might. We could try.

Bella, come here. Come here, Belly.

- Hiya, honey. - Can you say hi?

- Hi. - Aw.

Bella, Mommy tells me you see a little boy in the closet here.

Can you tell me anything about him?

Just a kid. Does he scare you, honey?

Yeah, because he scratch.

He scratch?

I don't want that to scratch me.

Yeah, of course not.

We're going to try to get rid of all the bad people here.

Is that okay?

Yeah.

Yeah.

So, Bella, do you mind if I finish talking to Mommy?

Can you go with Grandma? That okay?

Thank you, sweetheart. Okay, go down.

Okay. Okay, go to Nonni.

She's a very cute little girl. Thank you.

She mentioned something about getting scratched. Yes.

Have you seen that? Yes.

We actually have a photo of it as well.

- Do you have it with you? - Yes, I do.

Here it is.

So it sounds like what Bella is describing to you

has got to be eating you up inside.

Yeah. It scares me.

It's like you're stuck in a horror movie,

but you don't know the ending.

Okay.

Unh-unh. No, I don't like this.

I see a little boy in here, like full-on,

probably like 5 years old.

I don't think it's a real child,

so I think it's part of this negative entity that's here.

What is he doing?

I think he's hanging out with this kid.

He goes under the bed, pushing on the bed...

...talking, constantly talking.

See, the talking is bad.

He's causing the dreams, and it's bad.

Like, that I'm getting. It's not good.

I don't like this.

My stomach doesn't feel good about this.

Is this dangerous for them?

Psychologically, it's damaging.

It's feeding off of whoever is in this room.

It's gaining strength,

and ultimately it could lead to illnesses.

I don't like that.

Kerrie told me the previous owner died in the house.

Now, clients usually get this kind of stuff wrong,

but in this case, it checked out.

I managed to track down two of the deceased owner's kids.

They grew up in Kerrie's house

and say two other family members died there, too.

Thanks for meeting me.

It's not often I get to meet previous homeowners

of my client's house.

So how has it been since either one of you were here?

Since 1998.

Did you guys grow up here?

Yeah, we did.

My mom and dad bought the house I think around 1952.

This is a photo of the house taken in 1960.

I hate to bring up sadness in your family,

but I understand your mother actually died here.

Yes.

Mom passed in January of '98.

Our mother's name was Verna Weissenburg.

- Well, how old was she? - 79.

And what was she like?

She was quiet, loved to bake,

made a lot of cookies.

This is a photo of our mom and dad.

When Dad died, she wanted to be here alone.

Dad passed in 1997...

Okay. ...in February.

She called me a number of times after Dad had died,

and she said, "How do you live, you know, without your spouse?"

That was the worst.

She never really got over Dad's death.

I'm seeing that old dead lady again.

This woman, to me, seems very --

She's very newly dead, within the last 20 years.

And she's got curly gray hair.

I'd say probably in her early 70s.

The gray-haired lady

had attachments directly to this house.

With her, I'm getting the '90s.

Now, you guys mentioned on the phone that there was --

You knew of, like, two other people that died in the house.

Who was the first one?

It was Ida Driscoll.

She was our maternal grandmother.

She died in 1938.

Here's a photo of her and our mother, Verna.

Ida passed before both of us were born.

We don't know the cause of death.

Okay, so that was the first one.

Who was the second one that passed?

Our grandfather, Henry Driscoll.

Here's a photo of him when he was a young man.

What kind of a man was he?

He was little, hardworking.

He worked at Spaulding Fibre.

He was really a kind and gentle man.

He was a good guy.

How old was he when he passed? 81.

He died in 1952 in this back bedroom back here.

This is an obituary of Henry.

This may sound weird, but I got to ask.

During the time that you guys were living here,

did anything strange or unusual happen

that you couldn't explain?

When I was a kid, I used to have some bad nightmares.

What were they like?

My arms were just -- They felt like lead weights.

- And you couldn't pick them up? - No, not really.

Strange.

Okay.

There's another recent death here.

I think it's the trucker guy from outside.

I know he lived here at some point.

I can say, like, either the person

was dying or dead in this area

because I feel that,

and I feel nauseous.

See, the dead guy comes in here a lot.

Do you know if the living have any experiences with him?

Maybe they'd see a man,

seeing him out of the corner of their eyes.

I didn't get any information on that from him.

Why is it you're having such a hard time

getting information from him?

The nasty thing upstairs took his voice.

Now, I just got a call back from a genealogist

who says he did some digging.

Turns out, a former owner of Kerrie's property

lived a tragic life and died a painful death.

You had mentioned on the phone this guy, Williams,

had a pretty terrible life.

Before we even get to that, what do you know about this guy?

William Williams was born in Massachusetts...

Okay. ...in 1786.

He served as a colonel in the War of 1812.

His business was book publishing,

and he was very active in his church.

He was the superintendent of the Sunday school.

So what went wrong? What happened?

He met and married Sophia Wells in 1811.

14 children were born to that union.

Unfortunately, only seven survived to adulthood.

- Seven? - And it gets worse.

During the birth of the 14th child, Sophia died

as well, at age 40. All right.

So in about 20 years, this guy lost seven kids and his wife?

That's pretty tragic. What happens to him after that?

He married the spinster daughter

of one of his business associates.

His name was Henry Huntington.

- Okay. - Her name was Catherine,

and so they were married in 1833.

In 1834, his publishing business fails.

He's forced to sell off his business to pay his debtors.

His father-in-law, he steps in and says,

"Well, let's help out here."

In 1836, Henry Huntington bought your client's property.

Okay, so Williams lived on the land,

but his father-in-law owned it?

- Yes. - Do things get better for him?

Actually, they got worse.

Shortly after they moved onto the property,

Henry Huntington, his father-in-law,

had him removed, so he became homeless.

So basically his father-in-law kicks him off the property.

Yeah.

Does his wife stay with him through this?

No. His wife, Catherine,

moved back to Rome to take care of her father.

What happens to him after that?

In 1841, he buys a stagecoach ticket to be with his wife,

and on the way, the stagecoach tips over.

He lands on his head, and he suffers a brain injury,

and his mental abilities were not what they used to be.

This guy's got a black cloud on him.

That's right.

He becomes a recluse for the rest of his life.

I've got an obituary here.

He died in Utica, 63 years old,

in 1850, apparently penniless and alone.

I just saw something really weird.

It was a male who'd been skinned.

He didn't have any flesh on his back, and I'm getting neck pain.

I think this guy brought the negative entity here.

I felt like it followed this person from another house.

This guy used to have really strong ties

to the church and youth.

Something went wrong over, like,

a deal with the business that used to be here.

Do you have any idea how this guy died?

I'm getting that neck pain, that lower head and neck pain.

A fall could cause that, could cause that kind of damage.

And it **** hurts like a ****.

My God.

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So far, I've got a woman scared to death

about the safety of her family

in a house where at least three people have died,

but I want to see if there's anything else.

Searching through old records,

I find the murder of a little girl

that took place in the 1890s.

Turns out, it happened right in my client's neighborhood.

So I'm heading over to meet this local journalist

who knows all about this case.

Now, he says this story has a lot of twists and turns

and that locals were stunned when they found out

who actually killed this poor girl.

Well, Jeff, I appreciate you helping me out with this case.

So walk me through this crazy murder.

On July 8, 1892, there was a young 2-year-old girl.

Her name was Lowena Stermer,

and she was playing in the neighborhood,

and when she came home, her mother looked at her,

and she's deathly pale.

She's got black circles around her eyes.

Her mother brought in a doctor,

and the doctor thought, "This is probably cholera,"

but unfortunately, by 10 p.m. that night,

Lowena Stermer is dead.

We know Lowena was murdered. So how'd they figure that out?

Because 5 days later,

three other kids in the neighborhood

got sick as well, through similar symptoms,

but they all survived their ailments after some vomiting.

How did they eventually make a collar on this?

When the kids were asked what was going on,

they talk about having been given a cocoa drink

by another neighborhood girl,

a 14-year-old named Ella Holdridge.

Ella was questioned, and eventually she did confess

to mixing rat poison into drinks and giving it to these kids.

You're kidding? Any idea what the motive was?

Ella was fascinated with death, the macabre.

She loved coffins.

She loved corpses, and she wanted to see a pretty corpse,

and I have an article here that shows you that

while the 2-year-old was sick,

Ella would sneak out of her house

and go look in the neighbor's window.

She came back home and told her stepmother gleefully,

"It looks like she's going to die."

This is some, you know, serial killer type mentality

in a 14-year-old girl.

Yeah, and this all happened a few hundred yards

from the property you're investigating.

So what happens to this psychopath?

She was actually taken to a reformery

right outside of Buffalo,

but ultimately she was never prosecuted.

All right, so basically, she commits murder.

She doesn't get convicted of anything,

I guess because of the age,

and she winds up living a normal life after that?

Yeah.

Something went wrong.

It does have to do with the neighborhood.

People were yelling and panicking...

...screaming, "Help me! Help me!"

Screaming, yelling, crying,

and there is something with a hospital.

I'm seeing three babies that were dead.

It's really bad.

I saw several disturbing things during my walk,

but the dead little boy tormenting

a living girl upstairs had me the most concerned.

She's lying on the bed, and he is lifting this bed,

freaking out the little girl.

Yeah, maybe do the bed bigger.

Okay.

Across from the bed is, like, this unnatural blackness.

The little boy under the bed, he's part of it.

Amy, is this what you saw?

Yes.

Now that Amy and I have completed our investigations,

we're ready to reveal our findings to each other

and our clients for the first time.

So, Amy, this is Kerrie, and this is her daughter, Kayli.

Now, a few months ago, Kayli here moved in

with her 3- year-old daughter, Bella.

Basically, Bella is the reason that we're here.

Since they came back, activity has been violent,

and these two don't think it's safe for anyone to be here.

So now that Amy knows who you guys are,

I'll ask her to describe her walk for us.

When I went down into the basement,

there was an overwhelming amount of energy,

and it just got progressively more intense

as I went into the bedroom.

And the energy I was picking up

was coming from a living person

that is down there.

I felt that that individual is a physical medium.

First I got that this was a female,

and then I was leaning towards a male.

Amy, there's something you ought to know about that room.

Up until a few months ago, Kerrie's son,

Keenan, was living down there.

Now, he told me while he was there, he felt drained

and like he had been hit by a truck.

Yeah.

It got so bad he actually moved out.

That makes sense.

So you said you couldn't tell if it was a male or a female,

but Kayli lives down there now. Okay.

And she's having a bunch of experiences.

Could one of them be a medium, or both?

It would be likely that you are both sensitives.

- I'm not surprised. - Okay.

We see people, like,

all the time and feel people all the time.

It's overwhelming.

So what else?

Coming around to the front stairs,

I got hit with this intense residual event that took place.

I saw a female rushing down the stairs,

and she was freaking out.

People would feel it,

the rushing or feeling like a slight pushing.

Tell Amy about you getting pushed into the stairs.

As I turned to walk up the stairs,

I could feel this rush.

And I literally, like, fell into the stairs.

Okay.

I see what's going on here now.

The next person I want to talk to you about

is a dead male that I encountered.

I kept calling him the trucker

because that's what he reminded me off.

He seemed to be in his 40s,

and he was indicating to me that he lived here at some point.

I think he either died here, or he began his dying process here.

He can go everywhere,

but he enjoys being in this bedroom down here.

You may perceive it as more of like

a dark figure versus a male.

Um...

when I sit on the couch,

I can see into the reflection of the china closet.

I can see just there's a shadow fig-- Gotcha.

Like a man, and he stands, like, in front of the kitchen.

I have a pretty good idea of who you might have seen.

So the guy I'm thinking of is named Henry Driscoll.

Now, he's the guy that built this house back in 1916,

and at the time he built the house, he was 45.

I got a photo of him when he was young.

This is Henry.

So I spoke to the grandkids,

and they said he was a real blue-collar guy.

He actually worked his whole career in a factory in town.

He had lived in this house for over 35 years.

Now, we don't know what the exact cause of death was,

but we know he was bedridden here in his final years.

So Henry wound up dying in 1952 right in that back bedroom.

Okay, that makes sense.

Is there anything else?

I did encounter an old woman.

She looked to me to be in her 70s.

She has glasses. She has gray hair.

She lived here in the 1990s.

Okay.

So -- And I'm pretty sure she died within the last 20 years,

and I got a stroke or a heart attack.

I'm pretty sure I know who you saw.

I'm guessing Kerrie does, as well.

The previous owner of this house

was a woman named Verna Weissenburg.

Now, Verna was Henry Driscoll's daughter.

She was born in this house, and she died in this house.

Now, you said the woman lived here in the '90s.

Verna died over here in the kitchen in 1998.

Said she was in her 70s.

Verna was 79 when she died in this house.

One of the kids gave me a photo of Verna.

This is her right here.

Do you think this is who you saw?

I think it's her.

So her thing is, is that she gets irritated

with the living people here.

She is in the big bedroom upstairs

pretty much all the time.

- That's Kerrie's room. - Okay.

She does stare at the living,

and she does it intently.

And she did show me

her...holding...

I guess you down in the bed up there.

So the one night I was laying, and I woke up, and I, like,

felt being, like, watched, and I couldn't breathe.

I couldn't move. I couldn't yell.

I couldn't do anything, and all I kept thinking was,

"My God. Like, the house is finally --

It's going to kill me."

So this is all Verna holding her down.

The feeling of being watched...

- Yes. - ...is all Verna?

Yes.

But she's not what I'm concerned about.

I'm worried about the entity

that I saw in the upstairs hallway.

This is just a mass of negative energy.

Like, there's no real shape to it.

It's just this blackness.

I think a previous owner brought it here.

It's powerful.

It does on occasion make a lot of noise.

I'm looking out at the hallway, and all I'm hearing is, like,

yelling, screaming, knocking sounds, commotion.

I hear knocking on my bedroom door.

You hear knocking all around the house,

banging all around the house.

It can take your energy,

which then can break down your immune system.

Your immune system goes.

You start getting sick. You start getting sick.

You start getting seriously sick.

Your health has been declining, Kerrie, right?

Yes.

I have epilepsy since I've been 6,

but over the past 4 years, like, it's gotten worse,

and the doctors are just...

like, don't even know what to do.

Also, what this thing can do is borrow forms,

and it can appear good, bad, ugly.

Remember you thought you saw your father?

- Yes. - Tell Amy what happened.

I was sleeping in this back room over here.

I heard the door open, and it sounded like he was talking.

I opened my eyes. It looked like him.

Closed my eyes, opened my eyes back up, he wasn't there.

Door was shut. Nobody was there.

So this darkness thing borrowed Tom's likeness?

Yes.

Did this thing appear to you in any other way?

I went into the middle bedroom.

Bella's room.

I was in the closet, and I saw this little boy.

Kayli, you tell Amy about the little boy Bella sees.

- So she does see a little boy? - Yeah.

She says that he lives in her closet,

and she says that he lives next to her bed.

She gets hit in the face. She's been scratched.

She's been punched in the stomach.

- So I actually have a photo. - This is a scratch she got.

I saw him going under the bed.

He goes under the bed, pushing on the bed...

...talking, constantly talking.

See, the talking is bad.

What I was seeing was that this little dead child

was causing the living child horrible nightmares.

She was having nightmares so bad

that she sleeps in Kerrie's room now.

I did have a sketch done of what I saw.

Annoying little ****, right?

I mean, she's a baby.

That's what she describes.

She's been going through a lot, that kid.

She said the only time that he ever leaves her alone

is when she tries to close her eyes,

but clearly he's not leaving her alone.

She is, like, a little, tiny supernova of energy,

and this thing is attracted to that

because it can feed off of that energy.

This is like an extremely detrimental situation for her,

not only physically but mentally.

This is incredibly dangerous.

So, Kerrie, Kayli, you both got a lot of information tonight

and probably a hell of a lot more than you bargained for,

but now you know who's terrorizing Bella

and destroying your health.

But we still haven't answered your biggest question --

Is there anything you can do to fix this?

For that answer, I'm going to turn it over to Amy.

This negative energy that is attached to Bella

needs to be removed,

so I'd like you to find a Reiki master

who is also a psychic,

and I want Bella to go

and have any and all cords

from this negative energy removed.

The next step is for the same Reiki master psychic

to come to the house and collect all of the negative energy

that's in this house from every nook and cranny.

Once this thing's out of the house,

you'll notice a big difference.

Now, will this get rid of all the dead people here?

Yes.

And once the Reiki master has completed their session,

Bella can easily come back.

The other thing I would like you guys to do

is a specific grounding meditation one time per week.

It temporarily shuts you down.

Now, by doing this,

the dead are going to see a sign going up

that says, "Closed."

Okay?

And they're going to leave.

I mean, are you going to do what Amy tells you?

100 percent. Yeah.

Definitely.

If it means Bella being safe, we would do whatever it took.

I really hope Kerrie and Kayli follow all of my advice.

If they do, they'll be able to live in their house in peace,

and most importantly, Bella will have a normal childhood.

Hi, guys. I wanted to give you a quick update and let you know

how things were going here at the house.

Claire came by yesterday,

and she cleansed the house of all the negativity,

and everyone slept great.

We all slept through the night.

There were no nightmares or anything.

Bella feels great sleeping in her room by herself,

so it's wonderful, so thank you so much for all of your help.

We are so appreciative. Thank you so much.

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