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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:10,244 --> 00:00:13,712 It's very, very bad out here. 2 00:00:13,714 --> 00:00:16,782 I feel, like, a knife in the gut. 3 00:00:16,784 --> 00:00:18,183 I think it wants to kill us. 4 00:00:18,185 --> 00:00:19,518 Something just ain't right with that house. 5 00:00:21,288 --> 00:00:23,021 He did not die well. 6 00:00:23,023 --> 00:00:25,023 They decided they would have a lynching party. 7 00:00:26,994 --> 00:00:30,162 - Your life is in jeopardy. - You believe me now? 8 00:00:30,164 --> 00:00:32,531 He says, "I'm gonna kill them." 9 00:00:32,533 --> 00:00:34,900 That's his end goal. 10 00:00:36,070 --> 00:00:38,670 Panic, panic, panic. 11 00:00:38,672 --> 00:00:40,506 My name is Amy Allan. 12 00:00:40,508 --> 00:00:42,340 I'm seeing, like, blood. 13 00:00:42,342 --> 00:00:45,644 The house just feels bad. 14 00:00:45,646 --> 00:00:46,912 I see dead people. 15 00:00:46,914 --> 00:00:51,283 This man is completely insane. 16 00:00:51,285 --> 00:00:54,453 I speak to dead people... 17 00:00:54,455 --> 00:00:56,622 Whoo. Okay. She doesn't like it in there. 18 00:00:56,624 --> 00:00:58,690 ...and they speak to me. 19 00:00:58,692 --> 00:01:00,692 He likes to twist that knife. 20 00:01:00,694 --> 00:01:04,163 But there's only one way to know if my findings are real. 21 00:01:04,165 --> 00:01:07,833 Something paranormal is trying to kill them. 22 00:01:07,835 --> 00:01:09,401 I rely on my partner. 23 00:01:09,403 --> 00:01:10,903 I'm Steve DiSchiavi. 24 00:01:10,905 --> 00:01:13,238 I'm a retired New York City homicide detective. 25 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:14,906 Now does he die right there, on the spot? 26 00:01:14,908 --> 00:01:18,810 I know every person, every house has secrets. 27 00:01:18,812 --> 00:01:21,446 I think it's trying to steal my soul. 28 00:01:21,448 --> 00:01:23,282 It's my job to reveal them. 29 00:01:23,284 --> 00:01:25,584 You ever get touched like that again? 30 00:01:25,586 --> 00:01:27,486 But Steve and I never speak... 31 00:01:27,488 --> 00:01:29,521 We never communicate during an investigation. 32 00:01:29,523 --> 00:01:30,889 ...until the very end. 33 00:01:30,891 --> 00:01:33,125 I'm as stunned as you guys are. 34 00:01:33,127 --> 00:01:34,960 When we uncover if it's safe for you to stay... 35 00:01:34,962 --> 00:01:37,629 I don't want anything to happen to my daughter. 36 00:01:37,631 --> 00:01:39,064 Or time to get out. 37 00:01:39,066 --> 00:01:42,401 His goal is to kill you guys. 38 00:01:55,882 --> 00:01:57,816 So, I'm out here in Jones, Alabama. 39 00:01:57,818 --> 00:01:59,751 It's about an hour west of Montgomery. 40 00:01:59,753 --> 00:02:02,187 I got a call from a woman named Kimberly. 41 00:02:02,189 --> 00:02:05,290 She says the second she moved her elderly mom into the house, 42 00:02:05,292 --> 00:02:06,959 all hell broke loose. 43 00:02:06,961 --> 00:02:08,760 She says no one is safe 44 00:02:08,762 --> 00:02:11,296 and literally begged us to come help her out. 45 00:02:16,303 --> 00:02:17,636 Before Amy arrives, 46 00:02:17,638 --> 00:02:21,439 I clear the area of any leading information. 47 00:02:21,441 --> 00:02:24,076 This home has a lot of family photos 48 00:02:24,078 --> 00:02:26,444 and unique personal items, 49 00:02:26,446 --> 00:02:30,315 so it's important that I cover or remove them all. 50 00:02:30,317 --> 00:02:33,452 When I'm done, the location will be ready for tonight's walk. 51 00:02:42,730 --> 00:02:44,396 Jeez. 52 00:02:44,398 --> 00:02:48,934 There's something here that was left to rot, 53 00:02:48,936 --> 00:02:51,904 and it feels malicious. 54 00:02:51,906 --> 00:02:54,539 Very, very, very bad out here. 55 00:02:54,541 --> 00:02:57,442 Living people would feel fear, 56 00:02:57,444 --> 00:02:59,544 and anytime they'd try to confront it, 57 00:02:59,546 --> 00:03:01,013 it's, like, poof, gone. 58 00:03:08,088 --> 00:03:09,488 Well, Kimberly, when we spoke on the phone 59 00:03:09,490 --> 00:03:11,522 you could barely hold it together. 60 00:03:11,524 --> 00:03:13,025 What the hell is going on here? 61 00:03:13,027 --> 00:03:15,427 This is a house in darkness and despair. 62 00:03:15,429 --> 00:03:17,629 Whatever is here is ruining our business. 63 00:03:17,631 --> 00:03:19,197 It's destroying our livelihood. 64 00:03:19,199 --> 00:03:21,033 - You guys run a business? - Yes. 65 00:03:21,035 --> 00:03:23,101 - What's the story with that? - My brother Kenny and I 66 00:03:23,103 --> 00:03:26,738 run a transmission business here on the property. 67 00:03:26,740 --> 00:03:28,873 It's become very dangerous at the shop, 68 00:03:28,875 --> 00:03:31,243 and Kenny's on the verge of leaving us, 69 00:03:31,245 --> 00:03:32,911 walking away from this business. 70 00:03:32,913 --> 00:03:35,446 Now is activity affecting things in the house, too? 71 00:03:35,448 --> 00:03:37,115 - Yes. - Okay. 72 00:03:37,117 --> 00:03:38,984 All right, so who all lives here? 73 00:03:38,986 --> 00:03:41,486 My mother, Henrietta. 74 00:03:41,488 --> 00:03:43,522 Okay. 75 00:03:43,524 --> 00:03:46,992 My husband, Leo, and my brother, Kenny. 76 00:03:46,994 --> 00:03:50,062 So as far as activity goes, what are you guys experiencing? 77 00:03:50,064 --> 00:03:53,865 We've had banging noises, things moving on their own. 78 00:03:53,867 --> 00:03:57,002 We've had things breaking for no apparent reason, 79 00:03:57,004 --> 00:03:59,270 shadow figures and apparitions here, 80 00:03:59,272 --> 00:04:02,040 and now it's physical attacks. 81 00:04:02,042 --> 00:04:04,076 Things have gotten so bad here, Steve, 82 00:04:04,078 --> 00:04:07,279 our family has started to refer to our house as "Hell House." 83 00:04:07,281 --> 00:04:10,382 - Hell House? - Exactly. 84 00:04:10,384 --> 00:04:13,652 You mentioned to me on the phone that stuff started happening 85 00:04:13,654 --> 00:04:15,553 when you moved your mom in. - Yes. 86 00:04:15,555 --> 00:04:17,656 All right, so what's the story there? 87 00:04:17,658 --> 00:04:19,791 She's elderly and she's in the first stages 88 00:04:19,793 --> 00:04:22,127 of Alzheimer's disease. 89 00:04:22,129 --> 00:04:23,295 As soon as we brought her in, 90 00:04:23,297 --> 00:04:26,097 things just got from bad to worse. 91 00:04:26,099 --> 00:04:28,566 I don't think it's safe for her to be here, 92 00:04:28,568 --> 00:04:30,569 or really any of us, for that matter. 93 00:04:30,571 --> 00:04:33,238 So with this insane activity you've got here, 94 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:34,873 how is it affecting you? 95 00:04:34,875 --> 00:04:37,743 I'm tired all the time. I have trouble sleeping. 96 00:04:37,745 --> 00:04:39,344 What do you think is here? 97 00:04:39,346 --> 00:04:43,048 I'm not sure, but my family has always said that we were cursed 98 00:04:43,050 --> 00:04:45,417 because my grandfather was a moonshiner 99 00:04:45,419 --> 00:04:48,820 and supposedly had killed someone. 100 00:04:48,822 --> 00:04:50,855 I've been told that since I was a child. 101 00:04:50,857 --> 00:04:52,124 You know, I'll make sure I look into that. 102 00:04:52,126 --> 00:04:54,392 What do you think it wants? 103 00:04:54,394 --> 00:04:57,462 I think it wants to kill us, Steve. 104 00:04:57,464 --> 00:04:58,963 I can't take it anymore. 105 00:04:58,965 --> 00:05:00,666 That's why we need your help. 106 00:05:06,940 --> 00:05:08,507 No. 107 00:05:11,644 --> 00:05:13,611 Something happened in here freaked somebody out, 108 00:05:13,613 --> 00:05:16,948 living-wise, and it's a female. 109 00:05:16,950 --> 00:05:18,183 Things are, like, falling. 110 00:05:20,187 --> 00:05:23,755 Things are breaking or temporarily shutting down. 111 00:05:23,757 --> 00:05:28,259 Something triggered spontaneous psychokinesis kind of episodes. 112 00:05:28,261 --> 00:05:30,361 This person is going through something right now, 113 00:05:30,363 --> 00:05:33,298 extreme stress. 114 00:05:33,300 --> 00:05:36,201 It seems more, like, dormant abilities 115 00:05:36,203 --> 00:05:37,803 that are suddenly coming out. 116 00:05:44,377 --> 00:05:46,778 Okay, Kimberly, so what's going on in here? 117 00:05:46,780 --> 00:05:49,114 Things move on their own here. 118 00:05:49,116 --> 00:05:50,515 Okay, give me an example. 119 00:05:50,517 --> 00:05:53,718 You can put something down, like a set of keys or a cellphone, 120 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:56,554 come back five minutes later, and it's gone. 121 00:05:56,556 --> 00:05:58,590 - Okay, nobody's playing games? - No. 122 00:05:58,592 --> 00:05:59,991 Anything else in this room? 123 00:05:59,993 --> 00:06:01,526 We've also had shadow figures 124 00:06:01,528 --> 00:06:03,661 walking through from this room to the hall. 125 00:06:03,663 --> 00:06:06,264 I know you got animals. Are you sure it's not an animal? 126 00:06:06,266 --> 00:06:08,266 The animals never come into this room. 127 00:06:08,268 --> 00:06:10,268 - Is it a human form? - Yes. 128 00:06:10,270 --> 00:06:13,538 Okay. All right, so you have quite a few things 129 00:06:13,540 --> 00:06:14,973 going on in this room. 130 00:06:14,975 --> 00:06:18,477 I feel like I'm dealing with all this negativity all alone, 131 00:06:18,479 --> 00:06:19,911 all by myself. 132 00:06:19,913 --> 00:06:21,847 It just feels like pure evil. 133 00:06:25,485 --> 00:06:27,419 Living people here 134 00:06:27,421 --> 00:06:29,921 would experience 135 00:06:29,923 --> 00:06:31,289 seeing things 136 00:06:31,291 --> 00:06:33,558 out of the corner of their eyes. 137 00:06:35,695 --> 00:06:40,198 I see a young male standing by in dark shadows. 138 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:44,503 He has these things that are not human with him. 139 00:06:45,905 --> 00:06:47,705 They look like tree limbs. 140 00:06:47,707 --> 00:06:49,240 He says it took him a lot of years 141 00:06:49,242 --> 00:06:51,642 to learn how to control these things. 142 00:06:51,644 --> 00:06:54,378 What does he do to them? 143 00:06:54,380 --> 00:06:56,515 He uses them to torture the living. 144 00:07:05,325 --> 00:07:06,791 What's going on in here? 145 00:07:06,793 --> 00:07:08,260 This is kind of the heart 146 00:07:08,262 --> 00:07:11,296 of the worst negativity in the house. 147 00:07:11,298 --> 00:07:13,598 We hear tapping on the windows all the time. 148 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:14,933 So do you ever investigate? 149 00:07:14,935 --> 00:07:16,434 - Yes, we have. - And? 150 00:07:16,436 --> 00:07:19,070 There's never anything there or anybody there. 151 00:07:19,072 --> 00:07:20,338 Anything else? 152 00:07:20,340 --> 00:07:22,274 I've had nightmares in this room, 153 00:07:22,276 --> 00:07:25,744 and when I wake up, I feel like I can't breathe, 154 00:07:25,746 --> 00:07:27,912 and it causes heart palpitations. 155 00:07:27,914 --> 00:07:29,815 You take any medication that would cause side effects? 156 00:07:29,817 --> 00:07:31,683 No, no medications whatsoever. 157 00:07:31,685 --> 00:07:33,551 Anything else happen to you? 158 00:07:33,553 --> 00:07:36,721 One time, I was held down in this bed. 159 00:07:36,723 --> 00:07:39,557 It felt like two very strong hands 160 00:07:39,559 --> 00:07:41,626 pressing down on my ankles. 161 00:07:41,628 --> 00:07:43,828 From the waist down, I couldn't move. 162 00:07:43,830 --> 00:07:45,463 Okay. And where was your husband? 163 00:07:45,465 --> 00:07:47,698 On this side of the bed. He was asleep. 164 00:07:47,700 --> 00:07:49,700 When I realized that it wasn't my husband, 165 00:07:49,702 --> 00:07:52,037 that he was not touching me in any way, I screamed, 166 00:07:52,039 --> 00:07:55,106 and he jumped up and turned the light on, and it released. 167 00:07:55,108 --> 00:07:56,441 What do you think that was? 168 00:07:56,443 --> 00:07:59,644 It wasn't anything nice. It was something evil. 169 00:07:59,646 --> 00:08:01,713 That's the most terrifying thing that's happened to me. 170 00:08:09,589 --> 00:08:11,022 You doing all right? 171 00:08:12,692 --> 00:08:14,492 Not really. 172 00:08:14,494 --> 00:08:16,228 It's very emotional. 173 00:08:18,465 --> 00:08:20,598 I'm afraid for my mom. 174 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:23,335 Okay. I know. 175 00:08:23,337 --> 00:08:25,270 I know. You all right? 176 00:08:27,074 --> 00:08:29,140 I'm sorry. 177 00:08:29,142 --> 00:08:31,142 I'm just frightened for her. 178 00:08:38,918 --> 00:08:42,954 The man with the tree limbs likes this room. 179 00:08:42,956 --> 00:08:46,424 Okay. I'm seeing I think what they're seeing, and it's creepy. 180 00:08:48,028 --> 00:08:51,562 Okay, so this person is seeing this long, weird shape, 181 00:08:51,564 --> 00:08:54,532 like, this lanky shadow man. 182 00:08:54,534 --> 00:09:00,505 And I feel like the female in this bed sees him 183 00:09:00,507 --> 00:09:02,307 and is, like, frozen. 184 00:09:02,309 --> 00:09:04,876 It seems like they're struggling. 185 00:09:04,878 --> 00:09:08,346 So I guess the trees paralyze that person, 186 00:09:08,348 --> 00:09:10,114 then over there... 187 00:09:10,116 --> 00:09:13,585 they're seeing the branches coming for them. 188 00:09:15,455 --> 00:09:17,422 They're like hands. 189 00:09:17,424 --> 00:09:22,527 They're going inside the person and, like, settling in organs. 190 00:09:22,529 --> 00:09:24,395 I think they feel sick afterwards, 191 00:09:24,397 --> 00:09:26,931 causing, like, illnesses that way. 192 00:09:26,933 --> 00:09:28,666 But I think long-term, 193 00:09:28,668 --> 00:09:32,270 it could turn into something like cancer. 194 00:09:32,272 --> 00:09:34,105 They're scared. 195 00:09:34,107 --> 00:09:36,674 What kind of threat does he pose? 196 00:09:36,676 --> 00:09:40,312 Well, he just says, you know, "I'm gonna kill them." 197 00:09:40,314 --> 00:09:43,081 That's his end goal. 198 00:10:02,535 --> 00:10:04,169 So, Kenny, I was talking to your sister, and she says 199 00:10:04,171 --> 00:10:06,637 you run the business here on the property. 200 00:10:06,639 --> 00:10:08,740 Yes, sir. We do transmission work, yes, sir. 201 00:10:08,742 --> 00:10:10,808 In her opinion, she doesn't feel it's safe 202 00:10:10,810 --> 00:10:12,910 for anybody to be here. I mean, do you agree with that? 203 00:10:12,912 --> 00:10:15,380 I agree 100% with her. 204 00:10:15,382 --> 00:10:18,049 I'm just afraid that it's gonna hurt somebody. 205 00:10:18,051 --> 00:10:20,318 So your sister mentioned to me that you're just getting ready 206 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:21,686 to get the hell out of here. 207 00:10:21,688 --> 00:10:24,655 Yeah, I want to get out of that house. 208 00:10:24,657 --> 00:10:27,092 What experiences can you tell me about, Kenny? 209 00:10:27,094 --> 00:10:28,927 I was working on a truck out here. 210 00:10:28,929 --> 00:10:30,461 First thing I did was crank it up, 211 00:10:30,463 --> 00:10:33,264 and boom, both batteries just blew up. 212 00:10:33,266 --> 00:10:35,332 Plastic, acid everywhere. 213 00:10:35,334 --> 00:10:37,302 Okay, so do you know what caused it to explode? 214 00:10:37,304 --> 00:10:40,771 No, sir. There was no battery charger hooked to it. 215 00:10:40,773 --> 00:10:42,506 The battery cables were tight. 216 00:10:42,508 --> 00:10:44,809 I thought it was gonna take the hood off. 217 00:10:44,811 --> 00:10:46,344 I don't know if it's paranormal or not, 218 00:10:46,346 --> 00:10:48,013 but you're the expert on cars. 219 00:10:48,015 --> 00:10:49,413 - Right. - What do you think? 220 00:10:49,415 --> 00:10:51,649 I've been in this business for over 40 years, 221 00:10:51,651 --> 00:10:53,284 and I've never seen it happen. 222 00:10:53,286 --> 00:10:55,987 - I think it was paranormal. - Okay. 223 00:10:55,989 --> 00:10:58,556 All right, so you've had car batteries explode on you. 224 00:10:58,558 --> 00:11:00,024 Anything else? 225 00:11:00,026 --> 00:11:04,829 I was out in the backyard and I seen a wolf-like creature. 226 00:11:04,831 --> 00:11:06,230 Okay, can you describe it for me? 227 00:11:06,232 --> 00:11:09,434 6- foot tall, green, egg-shaped eyes. 228 00:11:09,436 --> 00:11:11,836 It just walked from one tree to the next tree. 229 00:11:11,838 --> 00:11:13,037 All right, you sure you weren't drinking? 230 00:11:13,039 --> 00:11:15,573 I wasn't drinking, no, sir. 231 00:11:15,575 --> 00:11:18,042 - All right, anything else? - I have attitude changes. 232 00:11:18,044 --> 00:11:20,845 We can come in from a trip, be just as happy as can be, 233 00:11:20,847 --> 00:11:23,448 and walk in that house, it will all fall apart. 234 00:11:23,450 --> 00:11:26,250 The attitudes become evil, plumb evil. 235 00:11:26,252 --> 00:11:28,119 That house has put something into you, 236 00:11:28,121 --> 00:11:31,322 like, it's a hatred, dark side. 237 00:11:31,324 --> 00:11:32,657 Anything else? 238 00:11:32,659 --> 00:11:34,659 It drains all your energy. 239 00:11:34,661 --> 00:11:39,096 It's like a battery. It just sucks all everything out of you. 240 00:11:39,098 --> 00:11:41,432 Something just ain't right with that house up there. 241 00:11:41,434 --> 00:11:43,401 I do believe it's trying to hurt us. 242 00:11:43,403 --> 00:11:47,605 It can kill you or cause somebody to get killed. 243 00:11:47,607 --> 00:11:48,740 Okay. 244 00:11:52,345 --> 00:11:56,181 Getting an older man, this dead guy. 245 00:11:56,183 --> 00:11:58,216 He's not a good person. 246 00:11:58,218 --> 00:11:59,750 Mnh-mnh. 247 00:11:59,752 --> 00:12:01,852 No, I don't like him. 248 00:12:01,854 --> 00:12:03,855 He's, like, yelling at somebody down there. 249 00:12:03,857 --> 00:12:07,691 Like, freaking out on someone. 250 00:12:07,693 --> 00:12:10,762 So his anger, you can feel it. It goes right into you. 251 00:12:10,764 --> 00:12:12,763 I think that the living would feel the anger. 252 00:12:12,765 --> 00:12:17,368 He's moving things all the time. 253 00:12:17,370 --> 00:12:19,704 Living people would put something someplace 254 00:12:19,706 --> 00:12:22,407 and then, say, an hour later, come back 255 00:12:22,409 --> 00:12:23,707 and it's, like, over there. 256 00:12:23,709 --> 00:12:24,975 You know what I mean? 257 00:12:28,247 --> 00:12:30,381 Not good. Mnh-mnh. 258 00:12:30,383 --> 00:12:35,253 He might be a little bit more powerful than I thought. 259 00:12:35,255 --> 00:12:37,989 I feel sick. 260 00:12:37,991 --> 00:12:40,524 Just sucks energy. It just zaps people. 261 00:12:40,526 --> 00:12:43,261 Anything that the living might experience within here? 262 00:12:43,263 --> 00:12:45,530 You know, they walk in here with energy 263 00:12:45,532 --> 00:12:47,865 and all of a sudden, it's gone, 264 00:12:47,867 --> 00:12:51,769 and so feeling extremely lethargic, exhausted. 265 00:12:51,771 --> 00:12:53,671 What kind of long-term effects might that have? 266 00:12:53,673 --> 00:12:57,508 Their immune system would get pretty run down. 267 00:12:57,510 --> 00:13:00,077 They could develop, like, bronchitis, pneumonias, 268 00:13:00,079 --> 00:13:01,813 you know, things like that. 269 00:13:08,488 --> 00:13:09,621 Leo, I was talking to your wife. 270 00:13:09,623 --> 00:13:11,489 She doesn't feel it's safe to be in this house. 271 00:13:11,491 --> 00:13:12,590 I mean, do you agree with that? 272 00:13:12,592 --> 00:13:14,558 I believe it is dangerous for her. 273 00:13:14,560 --> 00:13:16,561 - But not for you? - Not really. 274 00:13:16,563 --> 00:13:18,696 So have you had experiences in the house? 275 00:13:18,698 --> 00:13:20,565 - I have. - Okay, let's talk about them. 276 00:13:20,567 --> 00:13:22,767 It seems anything electronic breaks. 277 00:13:22,769 --> 00:13:24,102 Okay, so what kind of things are breaking? 278 00:13:24,104 --> 00:13:27,838 Satellite boxes, printers, carpet shampooers. 279 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:29,140 What makes you think that has anything to do 280 00:13:29,142 --> 00:13:30,507 with the paranormal? 281 00:13:30,509 --> 00:13:33,845 If it was one thing or two things, but this is everything. 282 00:13:33,847 --> 00:13:35,046 Okay, what else? 283 00:13:35,048 --> 00:13:37,081 I have seen a black shadow 284 00:13:37,083 --> 00:13:38,515 walking through the hallway, 285 00:13:38,517 --> 00:13:39,784 right out of the corner of my eye. 286 00:13:39,786 --> 00:13:41,785 How big do you think this thing was? 287 00:13:41,787 --> 00:13:43,153 About this high. 288 00:13:43,155 --> 00:13:45,590 When I turned to look, nothing was there. 289 00:13:45,592 --> 00:13:47,791 You may not be taking this seriously enough. 290 00:13:47,793 --> 00:13:49,861 Your wife is scared of her own house. 291 00:13:49,863 --> 00:13:51,528 Is it a strain on your marriage? 292 00:13:51,530 --> 00:13:54,965 Definitely. It's stressful. I love her. I can't lose her. 293 00:13:54,967 --> 00:13:57,067 Her safety has got to be the most important thing. 294 00:13:57,069 --> 00:13:59,871 I do love the house, but I love my wife more. 295 00:14:04,210 --> 00:14:07,679 It's not good back here. I see people fighting. 296 00:14:07,681 --> 00:14:09,814 How many people are involved? 297 00:14:09,816 --> 00:14:12,216 Like, 20 to 30. 298 00:14:12,218 --> 00:14:14,152 They're so damn solid, 299 00:14:14,154 --> 00:14:15,819 so I think that the living people 300 00:14:15,821 --> 00:14:20,424 would see shadow people out here. 301 00:14:20,426 --> 00:14:23,227 They're very angry and upset. 302 00:14:23,229 --> 00:14:26,564 They don't want living people out there. 303 00:14:26,566 --> 00:14:29,567 How might the living be affected by them? 304 00:14:29,569 --> 00:14:33,371 They create bad luck, mechanically. 305 00:14:33,373 --> 00:14:37,108 I see them messing with vehicles and electronic equipment. 306 00:14:37,110 --> 00:14:39,843 I think living people would feel the anxiety, 307 00:14:39,845 --> 00:14:42,780 absolutely, out here, horrible anxiety. 308 00:14:42,782 --> 00:14:45,183 I feel vertigo. I feel dizzy. I feel sick. 309 00:14:45,185 --> 00:14:47,118 Emotionally, they would feel threatened, 310 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:51,189 they would feel fear, anger, not -- not safe. 311 00:15:05,538 --> 00:15:07,338 Now usually, my clients don't have a clue 312 00:15:07,340 --> 00:15:09,907 what's haunting their house, 313 00:15:09,909 --> 00:15:13,311 but Kimberly thinks it could be her own family's dark past. 314 00:15:13,313 --> 00:15:14,612 So I had a retired detective look into 315 00:15:14,614 --> 00:15:16,314 her grandfather's case for me, 316 00:15:16,316 --> 00:15:18,883 and he confirmed there was a homicide. 317 00:15:18,885 --> 00:15:21,219 He said what started as a family disagreement 318 00:15:21,221 --> 00:15:22,820 ended in bloodshed and heartache. 319 00:15:31,864 --> 00:15:33,998 So, Shannon, I know my client's grandfather 320 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:35,866 was involved in a homicide somehow. 321 00:15:35,868 --> 00:15:37,368 What the hell happened? 322 00:15:37,370 --> 00:15:40,872 Well, your client's grandfather, Daniel Lockhart, 323 00:15:40,874 --> 00:15:43,941 was the perpetrator of a homicide. 324 00:15:43,943 --> 00:15:46,577 I've got a couple of photos of Dan Lockhart here. 325 00:15:50,450 --> 00:15:54,352 On the afternoon of October the 20th of 1934, 326 00:15:54,354 --> 00:15:56,020 Dan was driving along 327 00:15:56,022 --> 00:15:58,856 in the area of Billingsley, Alabama, 328 00:15:58,858 --> 00:16:01,926 when his cousin, Cicero Arnold Johnson, 329 00:16:01,928 --> 00:16:03,027 passes him in the road. 330 00:16:03,029 --> 00:16:04,462 They wave each other down, 331 00:16:04,464 --> 00:16:06,096 and they're on the side of the road 332 00:16:06,098 --> 00:16:07,932 and they get into an altercation. 333 00:16:07,934 --> 00:16:09,467 So what the hell happened? 334 00:16:09,469 --> 00:16:11,936 Dan called Cicero a derogatory name, 335 00:16:11,938 --> 00:16:13,137 and the fight is on. 336 00:16:13,139 --> 00:16:15,072 Some point, Dan pulls out a knife 337 00:16:15,074 --> 00:16:17,909 and slashes Cicero several times 338 00:16:17,911 --> 00:16:22,279 and cuts Cicero pretty severely on his arms and in his torso, 339 00:16:22,281 --> 00:16:25,082 catches him in his stomach, cuts an artery, 340 00:16:25,084 --> 00:16:28,085 and Cicero dies on the operating table. 341 00:16:28,087 --> 00:16:30,688 Here's an Alabama death certificate for Cicero. 342 00:16:30,690 --> 00:16:33,357 Do we know what prompted him calling him names 343 00:16:33,359 --> 00:16:35,859 or what started this fight? Well, we don't know exactly. 344 00:16:35,861 --> 00:16:38,229 There is some rumor that both of these men 345 00:16:38,231 --> 00:16:41,465 might have been involved in the moonshine business. 346 00:16:41,467 --> 00:16:42,900 All right, it's a pretty cut and dry case. 347 00:16:42,902 --> 00:16:44,235 Does he get caught and convicted? 348 00:16:44,237 --> 00:16:47,438 He's sentenced to five years and he actually serves four. 349 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:50,574 It sounds like it was a pretty lenient sentencing. 350 00:16:50,576 --> 00:16:52,877 Yes. Do we ever hear from this guy again? 351 00:16:52,879 --> 00:16:54,846 Apparently, he leads a pretty quiet life 352 00:16:54,848 --> 00:16:57,749 and he passes away in 1976 at the age of 81. 353 00:17:01,054 --> 00:17:03,821 There's some dead guy back up in here. 354 00:17:03,823 --> 00:17:05,523 He did not die well. 355 00:17:05,525 --> 00:17:06,990 He's white. 356 00:17:06,992 --> 00:17:10,327 And he's trapped and can't get out. 357 00:17:10,329 --> 00:17:15,500 And I feel, like, being stabbed in the gut. 358 00:17:15,502 --> 00:17:19,270 Stabbed in my left shoulder. Lots of pain on the left side. 359 00:17:19,272 --> 00:17:22,873 So sick. 360 00:17:22,875 --> 00:17:24,509 My lordy. Brutal. 361 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:30,347 So as soon as I got to town, I dug through the deeds. 362 00:17:30,349 --> 00:17:31,949 Turns out Kimberly's property was part 363 00:17:31,951 --> 00:17:34,285 of one of the biggest slave plantations 364 00:17:34,287 --> 00:17:35,586 in the state of Alabama. 365 00:17:35,588 --> 00:17:37,087 I'm heading over to meet with an historian 366 00:17:37,089 --> 00:17:39,023 who says the owner was a ruthless man 367 00:17:39,025 --> 00:17:41,558 who let nothing stand in the way of his own greed. 368 00:17:48,201 --> 00:17:49,667 Now you mentioned on the phone 369 00:17:49,669 --> 00:17:52,036 the guy that owned my client's property was driven by greed. 370 00:17:52,038 --> 00:17:53,604 What can you tell me about this guy? 371 00:17:53,606 --> 00:17:55,706 His name was Jabez Curry. 372 00:17:55,708 --> 00:17:56,941 Here's a picture of him right there. 373 00:17:56,943 --> 00:18:02,246 He came from Georgia to Alabama in 1823. 374 00:18:02,248 --> 00:18:03,881 He's 27 years old. 375 00:18:03,883 --> 00:18:06,116 And your client's land was in a parcel 376 00:18:06,118 --> 00:18:08,385 that he bought beginning in 1829. 377 00:18:08,387 --> 00:18:13,391 He eventually owned 2,800 acres. 378 00:18:13,393 --> 00:18:16,928 What he was looking for was to establish a cotton empire. 379 00:18:16,930 --> 00:18:18,596 How much was he worth in today's time? 380 00:18:18,598 --> 00:18:21,198 In 1860, the census reports him 381 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:25,469 as having a wealth of $340,000. 382 00:18:25,471 --> 00:18:29,206 That's worth $9.5 to $10 million today. 383 00:18:29,208 --> 00:18:30,941 - Okay. - He was very successful, 384 00:18:30,943 --> 00:18:32,810 but he couldn't get that cotton crop in 385 00:18:32,812 --> 00:18:34,712 except on the back of slaves. 386 00:18:34,714 --> 00:18:36,813 Now do we have any idea how many slaves he owned 387 00:18:36,815 --> 00:18:38,315 while he was on my client's property? 388 00:18:38,317 --> 00:18:42,220 By 1860, he had over 155. 389 00:18:42,222 --> 00:18:45,356 Wow. I mean, that's incredible. 390 00:18:45,358 --> 00:18:46,757 I've done a lot of these cases 391 00:18:46,759 --> 00:18:49,093 with a lot of the history regarding slaves, 392 00:18:49,095 --> 00:18:51,228 and people that had three and four slaves 393 00:18:51,230 --> 00:18:52,496 were considered wealthy. 394 00:19:02,041 --> 00:19:06,010 I'm seeing the shadow guy with the tree limbs again. 395 00:19:06,012 --> 00:19:08,512 Do you get anything on who he was in life? 396 00:19:08,514 --> 00:19:11,381 I get that he's more Southern. 397 00:19:11,383 --> 00:19:13,384 He's young, wealthy. 398 00:19:13,386 --> 00:19:19,423 When this guy was alive, he was into something dark. 399 00:19:19,425 --> 00:19:22,059 There's a lot of land involved with this. 400 00:19:22,061 --> 00:19:23,360 He's, like, babbling about, like, 401 00:19:23,362 --> 00:19:27,598 collecting what's his and just talking about owning -- 402 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:30,501 owning everybody, like, families, 403 00:19:30,503 --> 00:19:32,870 and he says he owns everyone. 404 00:19:37,209 --> 00:19:39,810 So, Doc, I know the slaves were treated pretty horribly. 405 00:19:39,812 --> 00:19:42,079 I mean, is this guy any different from anybody else? 406 00:19:42,081 --> 00:19:43,447 Probably not. 407 00:19:43,449 --> 00:19:45,950 What we know about Jabez Curry comes from two letters 408 00:19:45,952 --> 00:19:49,987 he wrote to his son in June of 1862. 409 00:19:49,989 --> 00:19:52,089 He describes a drought, 410 00:19:52,091 --> 00:19:54,224 and his supply lines were constricted 411 00:19:54,226 --> 00:19:56,493 because of a Civil War battle nearby. 412 00:19:56,495 --> 00:20:02,399 What Curry did was to cut his slaves to half meat rations. 413 00:20:02,401 --> 00:20:04,368 What about his family? Did they take half-rations? 414 00:20:04,370 --> 00:20:07,538 They did not go on half-rations themselves. 415 00:20:07,540 --> 00:20:08,905 Without them getting fed, 416 00:20:08,907 --> 00:20:10,907 how are they going to work so that he can make money? 417 00:20:10,909 --> 00:20:12,510 That's why he left them on half-rations 418 00:20:12,512 --> 00:20:15,379 instead of cutting rations entirely. 419 00:20:15,381 --> 00:20:18,348 Okay, so he was driven by greed. 420 00:20:18,350 --> 00:20:20,117 - This is 1862. - Right. 421 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:22,053 Now, we know the war didn't go well for the South. 422 00:20:22,055 --> 00:20:23,321 What happens to Curry's slaves? 423 00:20:23,323 --> 00:20:24,955 The slaves were emancipated. 424 00:20:24,957 --> 00:20:28,593 It appears that many of Curry's slaves stayed on the plantation 425 00:20:28,595 --> 00:20:30,461 and worked for him as sharecroppers. 426 00:20:30,463 --> 00:20:32,329 So how did this sharecropping work out for the slaves? 427 00:20:32,331 --> 00:20:35,232 It was a system that no one was ever happy with. 428 00:20:35,234 --> 00:20:36,600 Sharecroppers would sign 429 00:20:36,602 --> 00:20:38,802 an annual contract with the landowner. 430 00:20:38,804 --> 00:20:42,939 Sharecroppers were then indebted to the landowner 431 00:20:42,941 --> 00:20:45,810 and could not leave until they paid their debt. 432 00:20:45,812 --> 00:20:48,879 - So they were slaves still. - Basically, yeah. 433 00:20:48,881 --> 00:20:50,281 Whatever happens with Curry? 434 00:20:50,283 --> 00:20:52,783 He died in January of 1871. 435 00:20:52,785 --> 00:20:54,485 He was about 72 years old, 436 00:20:54,487 --> 00:20:56,120 and we're unsure of what he died from. 437 00:20:56,122 --> 00:20:57,287 Okay. 438 00:21:00,226 --> 00:21:04,362 Out here, I get a lot of death and violence. 439 00:21:04,364 --> 00:21:09,533 Very, very bad out here. I'm hearing men yelling. 440 00:21:09,535 --> 00:21:13,103 It's those dead guys who are always fighting outside. 441 00:21:13,105 --> 00:21:16,040 And they're just wearing, like, a little grass skirt, 442 00:21:16,042 --> 00:21:17,708 and they have spears. 443 00:21:17,710 --> 00:21:22,046 It looks tribal, more like African. 444 00:21:22,048 --> 00:21:24,582 They're kind of still fighting, 445 00:21:24,584 --> 00:21:28,051 and it feels like no one really won. 446 00:21:28,053 --> 00:21:29,987 Do you have any idea when this was? 447 00:21:31,524 --> 00:21:35,059 1830s or 1840s? 448 00:21:38,264 --> 00:21:39,864 Some dude is like, 449 00:21:39,866 --> 00:21:44,868 "This is the moment of our discontent. 450 00:21:44,870 --> 00:21:48,806 This is the moment of our death." 451 00:21:55,414 --> 00:21:58,015 For more information about the show, 452 00:21:58,017 --> 00:21:59,483 and if you need us to investigate 453 00:21:59,485 --> 00:22:01,285 unexplained activity in your home... 454 00:22:01,287 --> 00:22:04,621 Please visit travelchannel.com/thedeadfiles. 455 00:22:04,623 --> 00:22:06,157 Click on "Help me, Dead Files!" 456 00:22:06,159 --> 00:22:07,758 to submit your story, and we'll help if we can. 457 00:22:16,502 --> 00:22:19,236 So far, I've got a client claiming paranormal activity 458 00:22:19,238 --> 00:22:21,572 is ruining her business and her family's life, 459 00:22:21,574 --> 00:22:23,207 on a property once owned by a man 460 00:22:23,209 --> 00:22:26,710 who had over 155 slaves. 461 00:22:26,712 --> 00:22:29,346 But I need to see if there's anything else. 462 00:22:29,348 --> 00:22:32,783 Searching through old records, I come across Alexander McQueen, 463 00:22:32,785 --> 00:22:35,553 who used to own Kim's land back in the late 1800s. 464 00:22:35,555 --> 00:22:37,521 It turns out McQueen was involved 465 00:22:37,523 --> 00:22:42,192 in a lynching of a local black man during his time there. 466 00:22:42,194 --> 00:22:43,894 So I'm headed over to meet a local author 467 00:22:43,896 --> 00:22:47,398 who says this was a classic case of mob rule, 468 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:49,566 and this poor guy's death could have been stopped 469 00:22:49,568 --> 00:22:51,268 if it hadn't been for the previous owner 470 00:22:51,270 --> 00:22:52,536 of Kimberly's property. 471 00:22:59,344 --> 00:23:00,678 Well, Dr. Bailey, thanks for meeting with me. 472 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:02,079 I appreciate that. 473 00:23:02,081 --> 00:23:04,414 What were the circumstances that led up to the lynching? 474 00:23:04,416 --> 00:23:08,218 Wednesday night, November the 2nd, 1898. 475 00:23:08,220 --> 00:23:10,087 Mrs. R.L. Strider 476 00:23:10,089 --> 00:23:11,955 is about to retire for the night. 477 00:23:11,957 --> 00:23:15,058 She notices someone underneath her bed. 478 00:23:15,060 --> 00:23:19,029 She screams, and her screaming gets to the attention 479 00:23:19,031 --> 00:23:21,498 of her husband, Mr. R.L. Strider, 480 00:23:21,500 --> 00:23:24,235 who just happens to be the Justice of the Peace. 481 00:23:24,237 --> 00:23:26,770 Okay, so he's the local judge in town. Yes. 482 00:23:26,772 --> 00:23:30,474 Mr. R.L. Strider rushes into the room and fires two shots 483 00:23:30,476 --> 00:23:32,142 and misses the person. 484 00:23:32,144 --> 00:23:34,178 He goes out and rouses 485 00:23:34,180 --> 00:23:36,513 all of these whites in the neighborhood. 486 00:23:36,515 --> 00:23:40,751 They form a little posse to go out and find somebody black. 487 00:23:40,753 --> 00:23:42,653 Okay, so the wife must have said it was a black guy. 488 00:23:42,655 --> 00:23:45,589 She did, so they just find the first black guy, 489 00:23:45,591 --> 00:23:47,657 who happens to be John Williams, 490 00:23:47,659 --> 00:23:50,460 and he becomes the culprit because of his color. 491 00:23:50,462 --> 00:23:52,997 - This is mind-boggling. - It really is. 492 00:23:52,999 --> 00:23:57,601 The next morning, Williams is brought before R.L. Strider, 493 00:23:57,603 --> 00:23:59,236 who's the Justice of the Peace, 494 00:23:59,238 --> 00:24:01,805 also the husband of Mrs. R.L. Strider. 495 00:24:01,807 --> 00:24:04,841 There's no evidence at all that this guy's even on the scene. 496 00:24:04,843 --> 00:24:07,410 He's brought before the judge in town, 497 00:24:07,412 --> 00:24:10,047 and his wife is the actual complainant. 498 00:24:10,049 --> 00:24:12,349 Yes. How is that not a conflict of interest? 499 00:24:12,351 --> 00:24:14,184 That's a major conflict of interest. 500 00:24:14,186 --> 00:24:16,253 Okay, so I'm assuming he's found guilty. 501 00:24:16,255 --> 00:24:18,689 He gets convicted swiftly. 502 00:24:18,691 --> 00:24:21,424 R.L. Strider turns him over to the constable, 503 00:24:21,426 --> 00:24:22,927 who's Alexander McQueen. 504 00:24:22,929 --> 00:24:26,430 At the time, McQueen owned a property 505 00:24:26,432 --> 00:24:27,931 that you're investigating. 506 00:24:27,933 --> 00:24:30,166 And McQueen is supposed to transport him 507 00:24:30,168 --> 00:24:31,802 to the jail in Prattville. 508 00:24:31,804 --> 00:24:34,104 So McQueen has Williams in custody at this point, 509 00:24:34,106 --> 00:24:35,639 and he's taking him to jail in Prattville. 510 00:24:35,641 --> 00:24:37,308 But I know he never makes it. So what happened? 511 00:24:37,310 --> 00:24:43,580 Well, in route to Prattville, McQueen is overtaken by a mob. 512 00:24:43,582 --> 00:24:45,449 They find the nearest tree 513 00:24:45,451 --> 00:24:48,986 and decide they would have a lynching party. 514 00:24:48,988 --> 00:24:53,090 In the process, John Williams loses his life. 515 00:24:53,092 --> 00:24:55,259 Here's an article about that lynching. 516 00:24:58,531 --> 00:25:00,864 Wow. It sounds like the only guy 517 00:25:00,866 --> 00:25:02,132 that could have stopped this lynching 518 00:25:02,134 --> 00:25:03,834 was the guy that owned my client's property. 519 00:25:03,836 --> 00:25:05,469 Okay, is there a chance 520 00:25:05,471 --> 00:25:08,172 that McQueen went after the lynch mob? 521 00:25:08,174 --> 00:25:10,874 No, he did not. No charges were ever filed 522 00:25:10,876 --> 00:25:12,909 against any of the parties involved. 523 00:25:12,911 --> 00:25:16,814 No one in the state did anything to ensure 524 00:25:16,816 --> 00:25:20,551 that justice was given to the family of John Williams. 525 00:25:24,957 --> 00:25:27,924 I'm seeing a male out here. 526 00:25:27,926 --> 00:25:29,460 Late teens, early 20s. 527 00:25:29,462 --> 00:25:31,929 It's nighttime, and he's... 528 00:25:31,931 --> 00:25:34,431 close to nude. 529 00:25:34,433 --> 00:25:35,900 And I'm being arrested. 530 00:25:35,902 --> 00:25:39,603 I'm handcuffed and they're beating me. 531 00:25:39,605 --> 00:25:41,305 And then I black out. 532 00:25:41,307 --> 00:25:46,110 And then when I wake up, I'm rolling down an embankment. 533 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,014 His body is too broken 534 00:25:50,016 --> 00:25:52,582 and his hands were still tied. 535 00:25:52,584 --> 00:25:55,152 Not handcuffed. Now they're tied behind his back. 536 00:25:55,154 --> 00:25:57,454 And he dies. 537 00:26:05,797 --> 00:26:08,532 I saw several horrifying things during my walk, 538 00:26:08,534 --> 00:26:12,236 but the man with the tree limbs has me very concerned. 539 00:26:12,238 --> 00:26:15,872 First, I'm going to have him sketched as he appeared in life. 540 00:26:15,874 --> 00:26:20,878 He had a very square chin and jawline. 541 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,280 His face goes up and it's pretty thin. 542 00:26:26,151 --> 00:26:28,953 His eyes were pretty large. 543 00:26:31,490 --> 00:26:35,492 Next, I descried him attacking living people. 544 00:26:35,494 --> 00:26:38,395 In the bed is a man and a woman. 545 00:26:40,699 --> 00:26:43,500 And in his hand, he's holding tree branches, 546 00:26:43,502 --> 00:26:46,837 and then two of them are going into her nose. 547 00:26:46,839 --> 00:26:49,239 The living guy, he's paralyzed. 548 00:26:58,517 --> 00:27:00,384 Amy, is this what you saw? 549 00:27:00,386 --> 00:27:02,920 Yes, that's what I saw. 550 00:27:22,375 --> 00:27:25,242 Now that Amy and I have completed our investigations, 551 00:27:25,244 --> 00:27:27,710 we're ready to reveal our findings to each other 552 00:27:27,712 --> 00:27:30,114 and our clients for the first time. 553 00:27:30,116 --> 00:27:33,016 Amy, I'd like you to meet Kimberly and her husband Leo. 554 00:27:33,018 --> 00:27:37,521 They live here with Kimberly's brother, Kenny, 555 00:27:37,523 --> 00:27:39,923 right here, and her mother, Henrietta. 556 00:27:39,925 --> 00:27:41,458 Kimberly called us in 557 00:27:41,460 --> 00:27:43,260 because she doesn't think it's safe for anyone to be here. 558 00:27:43,262 --> 00:27:44,694 As a matter of fact, 559 00:27:44,696 --> 00:27:47,998 she's convinced whatever is here is trying to kill somebody. 560 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,334 So now that Amy knows who you guys are, 561 00:27:50,336 --> 00:27:52,169 I'll ask her to describe her walk for us. 562 00:27:54,774 --> 00:27:57,875 When I got here, I went into the kitchen 563 00:27:57,877 --> 00:28:03,379 and I saw something strange. 564 00:28:03,381 --> 00:28:07,684 I saw objects were moving on their own, 565 00:28:07,686 --> 00:28:12,422 but the thing to note here is that was not a dead person 566 00:28:12,424 --> 00:28:14,258 causing that. 567 00:28:14,260 --> 00:28:18,228 It was actually a living female, 568 00:28:18,230 --> 00:28:22,832 and this person has latent PK ability, 569 00:28:22,834 --> 00:28:26,103 which is the ability to affect your surroundings 570 00:28:26,105 --> 00:28:28,304 without touching anything, 571 00:28:28,306 --> 00:28:31,441 but it's not something that's done in a conscious way. 572 00:28:31,443 --> 00:28:35,612 It's brought on by a stressful event. 573 00:28:35,614 --> 00:28:38,781 Kimberly's mom is actually in the early stages of Alzheimer's. 574 00:28:38,783 --> 00:28:40,184 She's in stage one. 575 00:28:40,186 --> 00:28:42,619 Now she moved in about a year ago. 576 00:28:42,621 --> 00:28:47,790 Things just got much worse, to the point where we -- 577 00:28:47,792 --> 00:28:52,596 I fear for her safety, and all of us actually. 578 00:28:52,598 --> 00:28:56,266 I'm just stressed. I can't sleep. I can't eat. 579 00:28:56,268 --> 00:28:58,301 It's been getting worse for a year. 580 00:28:58,303 --> 00:29:00,003 So the stuff Amy's talking about in the kitchen, 581 00:29:00,005 --> 00:29:01,405 where stuff goes flying and falling, 582 00:29:01,407 --> 00:29:03,507 does that mean anything to you? 583 00:29:03,509 --> 00:29:04,874 Yes, it does. 584 00:29:04,876 --> 00:29:08,244 We've had refrigerator magnets fly off the refrigerator. 585 00:29:08,246 --> 00:29:10,079 So, I mean, do you think it's Kimberly or her mom 586 00:29:10,081 --> 00:29:11,448 that's got the PK ability? 587 00:29:11,450 --> 00:29:13,517 I think it's Kimberly. 588 00:29:18,557 --> 00:29:21,692 So then I'm going down the stairs 589 00:29:21,694 --> 00:29:26,296 and I see this dead guy, and he was on the older side. 590 00:29:26,298 --> 00:29:27,898 This person was not good. 591 00:29:27,900 --> 00:29:31,000 He feels like living people are invading his space. 592 00:29:31,002 --> 00:29:34,438 And I think that living people who are exposed to him, 593 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:35,572 one of the things -- 594 00:29:35,574 --> 00:29:38,442 one of the traits they would take on is anger. 595 00:29:38,444 --> 00:29:40,310 The other thing he does 596 00:29:40,312 --> 00:29:44,781 is that he will move things downstairs often. 597 00:29:44,783 --> 00:29:46,349 Like, so you put something down 598 00:29:46,351 --> 00:29:48,818 and then you'll find it in some random location. 599 00:29:48,820 --> 00:29:51,087 We've had things move, like cellphones, 600 00:29:51,089 --> 00:29:53,089 flashlights, car keys. 601 00:29:53,091 --> 00:29:55,325 - Books. - House keys. 602 00:29:55,327 --> 00:29:57,527 The things that concern me more 603 00:29:57,529 --> 00:30:01,798 is that he does drain people's energy. 604 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:05,802 They walk in here with energy and all of a sudden, it's gone. 605 00:30:05,804 --> 00:30:09,406 Their immune system would get pretty run down. 606 00:30:09,408 --> 00:30:11,307 You know, they could develop, like, bronchitis, 607 00:30:11,309 --> 00:30:14,378 pneumonias, you know, things like that. 608 00:30:14,380 --> 00:30:17,281 I kind of think I'm coming down with something right now. 609 00:30:17,283 --> 00:30:18,414 Okay. 610 00:30:18,416 --> 00:30:20,951 I've had a cough for a while now. 611 00:30:20,953 --> 00:30:24,287 He gets pneumonia every year. So do I, like clockwork. 612 00:30:24,289 --> 00:30:26,757 That's really bad. 613 00:30:26,759 --> 00:30:29,159 Now are all of these experiences from this old guy? 614 00:30:29,161 --> 00:30:33,029 Yeah, all of that is due to him. 615 00:30:33,031 --> 00:30:34,564 - You believe me now? - Yes. 616 00:30:34,566 --> 00:30:36,166 I tried to tell you. 617 00:30:40,873 --> 00:30:42,306 When I was in the backyard, 618 00:30:42,308 --> 00:30:47,143 there was a larger group of deceased males. 619 00:30:47,145 --> 00:30:52,449 They seemed tribal. They don't want you here. 620 00:30:52,451 --> 00:30:56,953 And they do everything they can to try to fight the living. 621 00:30:56,955 --> 00:30:59,723 I saw them messing with the cars out back. 622 00:30:59,725 --> 00:31:03,393 So I think maybe some of your mechanical things 623 00:31:03,395 --> 00:31:05,228 would have issues. 624 00:31:05,230 --> 00:31:07,064 Kimberly runs a transmission shop 625 00:31:07,066 --> 00:31:09,466 with her brother Kenny right here on the property. 626 00:31:09,468 --> 00:31:11,334 Do me a favor. Tell Amy what happened to Kenny 627 00:31:11,336 --> 00:31:13,403 when he was working on the truck back there. 628 00:31:13,405 --> 00:31:17,274 Not just one battery exploded, he had two explode. 629 00:31:17,276 --> 00:31:19,743 The odds of that are pretty, you know, pretty out there. 630 00:31:19,745 --> 00:31:23,347 - Explode? - Exploded. Yeah, literally. 631 00:31:23,349 --> 00:31:25,115 That was the turning point for him. 632 00:31:25,117 --> 00:31:26,683 That's when he said, "I can't do this." 633 00:31:26,685 --> 00:31:30,487 It's a good thing he wasn't near the hood because... 634 00:31:30,489 --> 00:31:32,456 Yes, he would have died. 635 00:31:32,458 --> 00:31:34,157 - Now, Leo, you told me... - Wow. 636 00:31:34,159 --> 00:31:36,493 ...about every damn thing in the house not working. 637 00:31:36,495 --> 00:31:39,429 I've been through three printers. 638 00:31:39,431 --> 00:31:42,566 I had a Shop-Vac burned up last week. 639 00:31:42,568 --> 00:31:45,501 Three refrigerators. Two sets of washers and dryers. 640 00:31:45,503 --> 00:31:49,172 I mean, they are actively doing things to try to create 641 00:31:49,174 --> 00:31:51,341 as much bad luck as possible 642 00:31:51,343 --> 00:31:54,110 and trying to get you to leave. 643 00:31:54,112 --> 00:31:57,714 It's working. 644 00:31:57,716 --> 00:31:59,449 And everything they're doing, though, 645 00:31:59,451 --> 00:32:02,319 is to try to harm you mentally, emotionally, 646 00:32:02,321 --> 00:32:05,021 and they will go after you physically. 647 00:32:05,023 --> 00:32:07,257 You would feel stress, panic, 648 00:32:07,259 --> 00:32:10,260 fear in that your life is in jeopardy. 649 00:32:10,262 --> 00:32:12,529 Now did you get anything on these guys in life? 650 00:32:12,531 --> 00:32:14,998 Yes. There's a lot of them. 651 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,700 I mean, I could only figure out about 50, 652 00:32:17,702 --> 00:32:19,336 but I knew there was more. 653 00:32:19,338 --> 00:32:22,339 And they were dressed extremely odd. 654 00:32:22,341 --> 00:32:25,909 I thought initially Native American. 655 00:32:25,911 --> 00:32:27,878 So then I thought maybe African. 656 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:31,581 They're very protective of the land. 657 00:32:31,583 --> 00:32:34,084 They're fighting to protect it. 658 00:32:34,086 --> 00:32:35,685 Something I came across in my research 659 00:32:35,687 --> 00:32:38,121 that might help make sense of what you saw, 660 00:32:38,123 --> 00:32:39,656 which is this property 661 00:32:39,658 --> 00:32:42,426 used to be part of one of the biggest slave plantations 662 00:32:42,428 --> 00:32:44,027 in the state of Alabama. 663 00:32:44,029 --> 00:32:47,331 The guy that owned this place had over 155 slaves 664 00:32:47,333 --> 00:32:49,833 on the plantation. 665 00:32:49,835 --> 00:32:51,501 Obviously, the work conditions were awful. 666 00:32:51,503 --> 00:32:53,470 There was mistreatment and beatings. 667 00:32:53,472 --> 00:32:54,504 And when the Civil War hit, 668 00:32:54,506 --> 00:32:57,441 the guy that owned all of these slaves 669 00:32:57,443 --> 00:32:59,709 actually cut their food rations 670 00:32:59,711 --> 00:33:02,445 because of the supply lines being cut off. 671 00:33:02,447 --> 00:33:04,714 They were constantly fighting for survival. 672 00:33:04,716 --> 00:33:06,783 I would have never imagined this. 673 00:33:10,722 --> 00:33:12,822 Okay, anything else? 674 00:33:12,824 --> 00:33:15,258 So the next person that I encountered 675 00:33:15,260 --> 00:33:19,896 is this very powerful deceased male, 676 00:33:19,898 --> 00:33:21,331 and he concerns me a lot. 677 00:33:21,333 --> 00:33:26,936 This guy is wicked bad. 678 00:33:26,938 --> 00:33:28,538 He was very wealthy. 679 00:33:28,540 --> 00:33:31,074 I felt like he came from old Southern money. 680 00:33:31,076 --> 00:33:35,011 He was a con man, a liar, and a cheat. 681 00:33:35,013 --> 00:33:40,684 And he kept yelling about collecting what was his. 682 00:33:40,686 --> 00:33:45,722 He made it clear that he owned everybody here, living and dead. 683 00:33:45,724 --> 00:33:47,624 So the guy that owned this place when it was a plantation 684 00:33:47,626 --> 00:33:50,527 was a guy by the name of Jabez Curry. 685 00:33:50,529 --> 00:33:53,730 Now you said the guy was a real Southerner. 686 00:33:53,732 --> 00:33:56,099 This guy comes from Georgia in 1823 687 00:33:56,101 --> 00:33:59,736 and he basically built a cotton empire. 688 00:33:59,738 --> 00:34:04,174 He owned 2,800 acres, including your property. 689 00:34:04,176 --> 00:34:07,243 And he owned it for over 40 years. 690 00:34:07,245 --> 00:34:10,379 Now you said the guy thinks he owns everybody 691 00:34:10,381 --> 00:34:11,815 and basically everything. - Yes. 692 00:34:11,817 --> 00:34:18,020 Well, here's a list of 155 slaves 693 00:34:18,022 --> 00:34:19,523 that this guy owned on your property. 694 00:34:23,528 --> 00:34:24,660 Now you mentioned the guy was a cheat. 695 00:34:24,662 --> 00:34:26,329 So after the Civil War ended, 696 00:34:26,331 --> 00:34:29,900 Curry wound up having to hire his slaves as sharecroppers. 697 00:34:29,902 --> 00:34:31,868 They were basically independent contractors for him, 698 00:34:31,870 --> 00:34:35,138 but all Curry cared about was his own wealth 699 00:34:35,140 --> 00:34:37,741 and he basically stiffed everybody 700 00:34:37,743 --> 00:34:39,809 when it came time to pay them. 701 00:34:39,811 --> 00:34:43,680 Curry died in 1871 at the age of 73. 702 00:34:43,682 --> 00:34:44,948 Now I don't have a picture of what he looked like 703 00:34:44,950 --> 00:34:46,549 when he was young, 704 00:34:46,551 --> 00:34:49,152 but I got a portrait of him later on. 705 00:34:52,291 --> 00:34:55,559 Now could Jabez Curry be the guy you're talking about? 706 00:34:55,561 --> 00:34:58,895 I had a sketch done of the individual that I saw. 707 00:35:07,039 --> 00:35:09,339 That nose is pretty prominent. 708 00:35:15,914 --> 00:35:18,315 Makes me nauseous. 709 00:35:18,317 --> 00:35:21,785 Definitely the same person at different times in their life. 710 00:35:24,189 --> 00:35:25,955 Looks like the same person to me. 711 00:35:25,957 --> 00:35:27,390 Do you think it's the same guy? 712 00:35:27,392 --> 00:35:28,592 Yes. 713 00:35:31,263 --> 00:35:34,130 So what kind of experiences would they have with this guy? 714 00:35:34,132 --> 00:35:36,867 He's very powerful. 715 00:35:36,869 --> 00:35:42,539 When I saw him initially, he had these two dark shadows with him, 716 00:35:42,541 --> 00:35:44,641 and they looked like tree limbs. 717 00:35:44,643 --> 00:35:48,078 But they're not a tree at all. They're entities. 718 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,746 And he's able to control these things. 719 00:35:50,748 --> 00:35:52,282 And so I thought, you know, 720 00:35:52,284 --> 00:35:54,017 the living here will see these things 721 00:35:54,019 --> 00:35:57,520 out of the corner of their eyes constantly. 722 00:35:57,522 --> 00:35:59,455 Leo, you mentioned the shadows that you see all the time. 723 00:35:59,457 --> 00:36:01,358 - Yes. - Tell Amy about that. 724 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:02,759 I would walk down the hallway 725 00:36:02,761 --> 00:36:05,228 and I would see it out of the corner of my eye, 726 00:36:05,230 --> 00:36:08,031 either in one corner or down the stairs. 727 00:36:08,033 --> 00:36:12,936 He utilizes these entities to basically torture living people 728 00:36:12,938 --> 00:36:14,905 and get what he's after. 729 00:36:14,907 --> 00:36:18,641 What I saw was him messing with both of the living people 730 00:36:18,643 --> 00:36:21,811 in the master bedroom. 731 00:36:21,813 --> 00:36:24,914 The tree limbs cause a state of paralysis 732 00:36:24,916 --> 00:36:28,652 so that you wouldn't be able to move. 733 00:36:28,654 --> 00:36:31,588 He's got them so they're going up your nose, 734 00:36:31,590 --> 00:36:33,657 into your throat, down into your body, 735 00:36:33,659 --> 00:36:37,460 and this negative energy is affecting your organs. 736 00:36:37,462 --> 00:36:40,396 Upon waking or later on, 737 00:36:40,398 --> 00:36:44,734 you would feel sick from the experience. 738 00:36:44,736 --> 00:36:47,637 Well, you can obviously see how upset Kimberly is. 739 00:36:47,639 --> 00:36:48,805 Couple of things you talked about 740 00:36:48,807 --> 00:36:51,240 actually affected her directly. 741 00:36:51,242 --> 00:36:54,143 I have nightmares, but I can't remember the nightmares. 742 00:36:54,145 --> 00:36:56,146 Whenever I wake up, I have trouble breathing 743 00:36:56,148 --> 00:36:59,215 and it feels like a weight on my chest, 744 00:36:59,217 --> 00:37:02,619 and heart palpitations. 745 00:37:02,621 --> 00:37:04,420 Okay. 746 00:37:04,422 --> 00:37:07,490 She's also felt like something held her down in bed. 747 00:37:07,492 --> 00:37:10,259 Something was holding my legs down, painfully. 748 00:37:10,261 --> 00:37:13,029 And then Leo switched the light on, 749 00:37:13,031 --> 00:37:15,031 and when he switched the light on, it releases. 750 00:37:15,033 --> 00:37:18,635 Okay. He's always in the shadows. 751 00:37:18,637 --> 00:37:21,103 I had a sketch done of what I saw happening 752 00:37:21,105 --> 00:37:22,639 in the master bedroom. 753 00:37:40,058 --> 00:37:42,926 This is the stuff of my nightmares. 754 00:37:42,928 --> 00:37:44,694 I feel like I'm in danger. 755 00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:50,600 Some nights I feel like, when I go to sleep here, 756 00:37:50,602 --> 00:37:52,035 I won't wake up. 757 00:37:54,172 --> 00:37:57,373 He poses a very serious threat to your health. 758 00:37:57,375 --> 00:37:59,476 Specifically over the long-term, 759 00:37:59,478 --> 00:38:00,943 this could cause serious illness, 760 00:38:00,945 --> 00:38:02,445 things like gallstones, 761 00:38:02,447 --> 00:38:04,547 bladder stones, kidney infections, 762 00:38:04,549 --> 00:38:08,284 and then going into possible cancers. 763 00:38:08,286 --> 00:38:11,187 He wants to kill everybody in the house 764 00:38:11,189 --> 00:38:14,157 and make them, you know, his slaves. 765 00:38:17,295 --> 00:38:19,262 Right now, he's focused on you. 766 00:38:21,399 --> 00:38:24,567 I'm just so worn out and tired from all of it. 767 00:38:24,569 --> 00:38:27,770 And maybe that's his plan -- wear you down, 768 00:38:27,772 --> 00:38:29,472 make you sick, kill you. - Yeah. 769 00:38:29,474 --> 00:38:33,643 It's so far above anything I could have ever thought. 770 00:38:33,645 --> 00:38:36,613 I'm terrified for her. 771 00:38:36,615 --> 00:38:38,181 And who's to say that this guy's not gonna 772 00:38:38,183 --> 00:38:40,583 go after your mother next? 773 00:38:40,585 --> 00:38:44,220 I mean, she's depending on me. She's helpless. 774 00:38:44,222 --> 00:38:47,590 It's something I can't protect her from. 775 00:38:47,592 --> 00:38:49,926 I just don't want anything to happen to my mother. 776 00:39:06,294 --> 00:39:08,194 Kimberly, I'm really glad I took this case 777 00:39:08,196 --> 00:39:10,497 'cause after listening to what Amy had to say, 778 00:39:10,499 --> 00:39:13,500 it's clear nobody is safe in this house. 779 00:39:13,502 --> 00:39:16,169 Now it's time to find out if you can do anything to fight back 780 00:39:16,171 --> 00:39:18,138 and protect your family. 781 00:39:18,140 --> 00:39:19,705 Now for that, I'm gonna turn it over to Amy. 782 00:39:23,578 --> 00:39:26,011 I feel like you could stay here, 783 00:39:26,013 --> 00:39:29,849 but it's going to take a lot of work. 784 00:39:29,851 --> 00:39:32,085 First, you need to move on the group of dead men 785 00:39:32,087 --> 00:39:33,586 in the backyard. 786 00:39:33,588 --> 00:39:36,222 What I would like to have happen 787 00:39:36,224 --> 00:39:40,293 is for you to have a hoodoo practitioner come out 788 00:39:40,295 --> 00:39:43,563 and do the guided death process with them 789 00:39:43,565 --> 00:39:46,299 and then to assist them to move on. 790 00:39:46,301 --> 00:39:50,903 And the hoodoo practitioner that you hire 791 00:39:50,905 --> 00:39:55,608 needs to have African ancestors. 792 00:39:55,610 --> 00:39:59,478 So let's give them a proper, peaceful death passage... 793 00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:00,580 Definitely. 794 00:40:00,582 --> 00:40:04,017 ...by someone that respects them and they respect. 795 00:40:04,019 --> 00:40:05,818 Okay. 796 00:40:05,820 --> 00:40:09,155 The second thing is the slave owner, Jabez. 797 00:40:09,157 --> 00:40:14,593 For him, I would like you to have a voodoo priest come. 798 00:40:14,595 --> 00:40:20,233 They'll be able to confront him and banish him from here. 799 00:40:20,235 --> 00:40:23,069 Then that same individual can easily deal with 800 00:40:23,071 --> 00:40:26,706 the old guy in the basement. 801 00:40:26,708 --> 00:40:28,441 All right, what about Kimberly's abilities? 802 00:40:28,443 --> 00:40:30,910 Anything she should do about that? 803 00:40:30,912 --> 00:40:33,646 For you, to deal with your stress, 804 00:40:33,648 --> 00:40:36,416 I want you to take 30 minutes a day 805 00:40:36,418 --> 00:40:38,985 and I want you to practice tai chi, 806 00:40:38,987 --> 00:40:41,654 'cause that's gonna help you to align your chakras. 807 00:40:41,656 --> 00:40:45,057 It's gonna help you balance out that energy. 808 00:40:45,059 --> 00:40:46,792 You know, Amy, one other thing. 809 00:40:46,794 --> 00:40:48,661 Kimberly was worried her dead grandfather 810 00:40:48,663 --> 00:40:51,598 had cursed the house. Did you get anything on that? 811 00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:55,635 No, I think he's moved on. 812 00:40:55,637 --> 00:40:58,404 So if Kimberly does all this stuff, 813 00:40:58,406 --> 00:41:00,306 will it be safe for her mom to stay here? 814 00:41:00,308 --> 00:41:02,275 Yes. 815 00:41:03,645 --> 00:41:06,445 It's what we want. That's what we need. 816 00:41:06,447 --> 00:41:08,948 It's a lot of work, but I've seen a lot worse. 817 00:41:08,950 --> 00:41:11,283 So I'm gonna ask you, Kimberly. you gonna take Amy's advice? 818 00:41:11,285 --> 00:41:14,453 I'm gonna do exactly what Amy says. 819 00:41:14,455 --> 00:41:15,755 We can do this. 820 00:41:15,757 --> 00:41:17,423 - Leo? - Yes, definitely. 821 00:41:17,425 --> 00:41:19,359 I've gotta have her safe. 822 00:41:19,361 --> 00:41:23,229 It's a lot to digest, but this gives us a lot of hope 823 00:41:23,231 --> 00:41:25,631 there's light at the end of the tunnel. 824 00:41:25,633 --> 00:41:27,634 Thank you both very much. 825 00:41:30,338 --> 00:41:32,972 I hope Kimberly finds a hoodoo practitioner 826 00:41:32,974 --> 00:41:35,174 to move on the dead in the backyard, 827 00:41:35,176 --> 00:41:37,777 and a voodoo priest to banish the slave owner 828 00:41:37,779 --> 00:41:39,579 and the old man in the basement. 829 00:41:39,581 --> 00:41:42,448 If she does that and practices tai chi, 830 00:41:42,450 --> 00:41:43,983 she can balance her energy 831 00:41:43,985 --> 00:41:46,386 and lead a safe and peaceful life. 832 00:41:46,436 --> 00:41:50,986 Repair and Synchronization by Easy Subtitles Synchronizer 1.0.0.0 64739

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