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There's a lot of, like, chaos here.
The activity is just destroying my family.
Someone came here to hurt the people here.
I feel like it's demonic.
They're a result of dark magic.
It could be some kind of witchcraft or curses.
It is so, so bad.
I can't even imagine now
the torture he's going through.
It's not safe, it's not safe, it's not safe.
Panic, panic, panic.
My name is Amy Allan.
I'm seeing, like, blood.
The house just feels bad.
I see dead people.
This man is completely insane.
I speak to dead people.
Okay, she doesn't like it in there.
And they speak to me.
He likes to twist that knife.
But there's only one way to know if my findings are real.
Something paranormal is trying to kill them.
I rely on my partner.
I'm Steve Di Schiavi.
I'm a retired New York City homicide detective.
Now, does he die right there on the spot?
I know every person, every house has secrets.
I think it's trying to steal my soul.
It's my job to reveal them.
You ever get touched like that again?
But Steve and I never speak...
We never communicate during an investigation.
...until the very end...
I'm as stunned as you guys are.
...when we uncover if it's safe for you to stay...
I don't want anything to happen to my daughter.
...or time to get out.
His goal is to kill you guys.
I'm out here in Pinellas Park, Florida.
It's about 20 miles west of Tampa.
I got a call from woman named Minou.
Now, she sounded terrible on the phone.
Says ever since her adult son
moved back into the family house,
activity has been violent and out of control.
She says if Amy and I can't stop it,
she thinks someone's gonna get killed.
Before Amy arrives,
I clear the house of any leading information.
Photographs, dream catchers,
and other personal items can influence her findings,
so it's important that I cover or remove them all.
When I'm done,
the location will be ready for tonight's walk.
This is bad.
The first thing I get is anxiety --
massive anxiety and digestive disorders in the living,
and then I heard jealousy.
It's not safe, it's not safe, it's not safe.
They've got to go, they've got to go,
they've got to go.
So, Minou, when we spoke on the phone,
you didn't sound really great.
Sounds like you're going through hell here.
What's going on?
Well, the activity is just out of control
and, I mean, just complete and utter hell.
Aw.
I know. I'm sorry, honey. I know.
I can only imagine.
So, what kind of things are you guys experiencing?
We're feeling we're being watched,
hearing voices,
shadow figures, nightmares,
mental and physical health declining,
and physical attacks.
How long have you been here?
Well, my parents built this house in 1977
and I've lived here on and off since then.
Do you know any history about the house
that might help me?
There's a family friend that died here.
And the family friend passed away in the house?
Yes, he passed away back in the bedroom
where most of the activity is at.
Whose room is that now?
My son, Jon Paul.
Who else lives in the house with you?
That's my sister, Shannon.
All right.
And that's my son's father, Rick. Okay.
That's me, that's my brother,
and that's my son, Jon Paul. Okay.
Since my son moved back in,
things have just been getting gradually worse.
So you think your son moving back in
caused all these problems here?
No. I think it's the girl that he brought over here.
She dabbled in the occult.
It just feels like
maybe she put some kind of curse on him.
Okay. Is he having experiences?
He's not been eating.
He's quit his job,
He almost quit school.
He's losing weight, and I just feel like
his physical and mental health are just diving down.
And you think this has all to do
with the paranormal activity that's going on here?
Yes, I do.
You okay?
I know.
It's just hard to see him go through it.
Yeah, I know.
It's your baby.
- It's killing me. - I know.
I feel like I'm crazy.
You're not crazy, honey.
I'm so depressed, and it's causing a lot of anxiety.
With all the stuff that's going on here,
why don't you just move?
To be honest, Steve, I feel like running away.
But it's my family home.
I'm not gonna let them win.
This is my house. This is where I live.
Someone is sick here.
Very, very sick.
I'm seeing this dead woman.
She has long, dark hair.
I feel despair and depression with her.
The living absolutely feel this depression.
It kind of gets worse in here.
The living would be susceptible to her energy,
and I feel like she is wrapped around this person --
a male here.
Yeah, she's, like, wrapped around them.
I think there's a connection with
whoever that male is that she's with,
which is really wrapped.
All right, Minou, so what's going on in here?
In this room, there's a chair,
and it moved on its own.
Okay, so what happened?
It just kind of went back,
hit the door, and spun around.
And you didn't see anything that could have done that? No.
Well, if it can make a chair move like that,
that's pretty dangerous.
- Yeah. - All right, anything else?
Shadow figures.
I see them all the time walking in the living room
and outside,
and I think it's somebody at the front door,
and I get up and open the door, and nobody's there.
Okay, so describe the ones you see
on the inside of the house.
Like a gray shadow.
Is it something you can see through,
or is it something that's kind of misty?
You can see through it, like a shadow on a wall,
like somebody walking. Okay.
And the ones you see outside, is it similar?
It's darker.
You see more than one?
Sometimes it's one,
sometimes it's one, two, three.
Is anybody else seeing this stuff,
or are you hallucinating, maybe?
No, my sister sees them, too.
Okay, anything else?
As soon as you walk into the house,
the whole entire house is just this dark,
heavy, weighted feeling on your shoulders.
It's a negative kind of thing.
So being exposed to this heavy feeling --
how does it affect you?
I get really fatigued
and very nauseated sometimes.
There's a blond chick who's with me now,
and she's dead.
Just anger and hate all over her face,
and she just screamed at me, "Get out!"
I just think the negative energy here
does make people sick.
Oohee, oohee, oohee, oohee, oohee.
I'm getting a head pain.
Okay, so, Minou, what's the story with this room?
Well, this is the room that I grew up in,
and this is where my son sleeps now.
Okay, so what's going on?
I have a lot of physical pain.
I get terrible migraines.
Now, do you have any kind of medical condition
that might cause that kind of pain?
I have fibromyalgia,
but when I'm here, it just seems so bad
and when I leave, it seems to be better.
Okay. Anything else?
Yeah, I have nightmares all the time.
Okay. What kind of nightmares are we talking about?
I had a dream where I was being choked,
and I woke up and I couldn't barely breathe.
It was terrible.
I've never in my life experienced something like that.
Who was choking you?
I don't know.
Aw, come here. Come on.
I know you're stressing out.
Relax. Okay?
Relax.
How's all this activity affecting your relationship
with your son?
We've always had a really good relationship,
and lately, just hasn't been there. All right.
These things are happening to him,
and they're for real.
He's being attacked through all of this.
Okay.
These things are destroying my family.
There are attacks coming from here.
I feel like it is possibly the blonde.
She is jealous because she wants to be alive again,
but she mainly does it because she hates everybody
and she's pissed off and she's miserable.
So I just see her smothering a person,
trying to kill them.
So, Shannon, I understand you're Minou's sister
and that you live here, actually.
Yes.
She called us in because of her concern
for her son, Jon.
Do you have concerns for him, as well?
Very much so.
The way he acts is completely different.
Okay.
Now, your sister mentioned to me
that within the last year,
the activities really got crazy.
Does that make sense to you?
Yes, that's correct.
Okay. As far as experiences go,
I'm pretty confident you probably have had some, right?
- Many, many experiences. - Okay.
Let's talk about some of them.
Okay, well, I've seen, like, different shadow figures
throughout the house, outside and inside.
Your sister mentioned to me about shadow figures, as well.
So when you see these shadow figures, how many are you seeing?
Sometimes three, four in a row,
just walking past the TV down the hallway.
Okay. Do they feel threatening to you?
Yes.
I feel like it's demonic.
So, anything else?
I've been touched in some really inappropriate ways.
Okay, honey. You okay?
Yeah.
Hopefully we'll get to the bottom of this
and get this fixed.
Anything else going on?
There's just a lot of negative energy in the house.
Feel so drained, really bad anxiety.
And when you leave here, do you feel any better?
If I'm gone for a couple days, yeah,
I start to feel a little better.
But when we come back in, it's just like, ""
It's really difficult.
It's like every day is just one more day
that you're living in hell.
Spending time in here is not really good.
It feels like overwhelming despair,
hopelessness,
depression, anxiety,
and then I feel sick, like I'm gonna vomit.
Oooh, it's bad.
My head hurts a lot.
There are some weird shadow things out here.
They kind of look like rats.
And they were, like, laughing
and trying to make us go away,
and I feel like that they were put here by someone.
I know that they're destructive to the living,
'cause these things are not good at all.
So, Jon, your mom called us in
'cause she's pretty concerned that something here
is going after you.
Now, do you agree with that?
Yeah, I kind of keep it to myself.
It's easier to, like, convince myself
that it's not real, or that it's just in my head. Okay.
Mom said to me that the activity here
really got crazy once you moved back in.-
She mentioned that she thought
the girl you were seeing that was into the occult
might have put a curse on you guys.
Did you ever think about that?
Yeah, I mean, it's something I've considered.
It could be, you know,
some kind of witchcraft or curses or something.
Have you experienced paranormal before you moved here?
Yeah.
So, let's talk about your experiences.
What are you going through?
Anxiety, you know, nightmares,
sleeplessness.
What kind of nightmares are we talking about?
I'll be, like, asleep, and I had my arm out,
and it was strange --
like someone, like, tried to
almost kind of pull me out of my body, I guess.
It's something I deal with all the time.
Okay, all right. So anything else?
Just voices.
How often are you hearing this?
All the time, unless I actively block it out.
What do you think these voices are?
I'm not sure, but I think they're demonic.
All right, so anything else?
I see things, like a mist.
It's almost like an energy.
It's hard to explain.
You get any kind of a vibe from it?
Yeah, but it's never anything positive.
Any thought as to what you think this thing
wants from you?
I feel it's already trying to hurt people
in my family.
I'm getting a living male saying,
"I don't want to be involved with this.
Why are you doing this? Why are you doing this?"
This person seems very angry,
confused, upset.
Feels like an angry teenager.
But it might be older,
so I'd say, like, maybe 20s to 30s.
There's a lot of, like, chaos here, mentally.
I think it has to do with those shadow-rat creatures.
Those little rats throughout here --
I'd say 20.
Do you have any idea what these things are?
They're a result of bad or dark magic,
kind of like a curse of some kind.
Someone came here to hurt the people here.
You know if the living would see these things
or have any other experiences with them?
I think that they would see them.
They're very physical.
They would hear them laughing.
They would experience far more anger,
depression, fatigue.
They would have random illnesses.
Nothing good can stay in this house.
No good energy, not happiness --
nothing like that can survive in this place.
Minou says a friend of the family died in the house
back in the '90s,
so I made some calls, and she's right.
Turns out the guy was really
a good friend of Minou's brother, Jack.
So I'm headed back to the house
to find out exactly what happened.
Well, Jack, thanks for sitting down with me.
I appreciate that.
Now, I understand you were pretty close
with the guy that died in the house.
What can you tell me about him?
His name was Lloyd Ferris.
He moved from upstate New York
to Florida, here, in this area,
in the mid-'80s.
He met my mother at an AA meeting,
and they kind of hit it off as friends,
and he needed a place to stay
and she had an open room, so he moved in.
It all became like he was family.
What kind of a man was he?
He was kind of quiet.
He was fairly tall, shortish gray hair.
Do you have any photos of him?
No, he really never wanted his picture taken.
What else do you know about him?
He was married and had four children.
At some point, he became estranged
from his ex and his children.
They didn't talk. - Okay.
You think that had something to do with the drinking?
I think it's a real good possibility.
It really hurt him bad
that he didn't really get to see his children.
Can you take me through the day he died?
It was March 31st, 1995.
Okay.
He had gone in to take a shower
and went into the bedroom
and laid down in the bed and passed away.
We're fairly certain that it was a heart attack.
How old was he?
67.
I'm curious -- do you think Lloyd is here,
in the house?
I definitely believe he's here.
I think he helps try to protect the family
and the house from whatever's going on. Okay.
But he's not strong enough to stop whatever it is.
Somebody dropped dead from a heart attack here.
It was an older male.
Do you have any idea how long ago this was?
This is fairly recent.
I wouldn't go earlier than the '90s,
I don't think.
He has lots of worry about children.
I think he's trying to talk mostly to a male.
This male -- living male --
does not want to even deal with any of this.
I feel like the males are related.
He says that he keeps trying to tell them to move,
to get out of the house.
It's not safe.
I don't know what Amy's gonna find on her walk,
but to me, some of the experiences
the family's having could be easily explained,
so I've called in a home inspector
to see if any of this could be environmental.
The reason I called you in
is my clients here are having some strange experiences
and mood issues and stuff like that.
Some of the stuff they're talking about
they're going through sounds like hallucinations.
I've been doing this a long time,
and I can't blame everything on the paranormal.
Sometimes it could be environmental --
you know, like maybe carbon monoxide or mold.
So can you do some testing to see
if maybe that's the issue?
I can do some air sampling.
I'll do one on the inside and one on the outside,
compare the two.
Thanks, buddy. I appreciate that.
Let me know what you find out.
I'll get started on it.
When you work a homicide,
you have to rule out the obvious first,
and that's exactly what I'm doing here.
If there's an environmental issue,
it might explain why everyone in the house
is seeing and hearing so many of the same things.
All right, Brad, so how'd it go?
I did find a roof leak in the back --
little bit of mold on it. Okay.
I did find a spot of mold under the air handler
in the hallway.
But other than that,
I don't see any major problems with this home.
All right, so it doesn't sound like
there's enough mold there that would cause
any kind of hallucinations or any kind of mood changes
or anything like that.
I wouldn't think so, no.
All right, so now I know it's not environmental.
It's got to be something else.
Those shadow-rat things
are trapping the negative energy inside.
They're putting up blocks. Paranormal.
No, that negativity ain't leaving.
They'll let the negative in.
They won't let the negative energy out, though.
Now it just spins and becomes more and more dark.
And they are preventing any energy
from like, you know, spreading around
or cleansing or anything.
That's why it's circled back
and it's just circling around this house
and turning black and black and black.
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Here's what I got so far --
a client who believes a curse has been placed on her home
and a family friend who dropped dead of a heart attack
in one of the bedrooms.
But I'm thinking there's got to be something else.
Searching through old records,
I come across Milton Bryan,
who used to own Minou's property.
Turns out, Milton's wife killed herself.
You know, I got to know more about this suicide,
so I've reached out to a local professor
who's looking into this for me,
and she says she's got some information
that will definitely help my case.
So now, Dr. Stark,
I know one of the original owners
of my client's property's wife committed suicide,
but before we even get to that part,
what do we know about him?
Milton Bryan is kind of a really interesting fellow.
He started off as a blue-collar worker.
He was a butcher,
and he decided to go into the dairy business.
He was very, very successful.
He had, at the peak, 400 head of cattle,
1,100 acres, which was quite good.
And that encompassed my client's property?
That is correct.
So, obviously he was married. When did he get married?
- Well, he has two wives. - Okay.
The first wife is Blanche. He's 22, she's 21.
They seemed to kind of get along,
except that there's no children for four years.
Do we think it had something to do with maybe
issues with the marriage or anything like that?
Absolutely, yeah.
Blanche had these odd bouts of illness,
so she'd go to her family's farm
to rest and recover.
Now, do we know anything about these illnesses?
There is some speculation
that it might have been depression,
or perhaps postpartum issues.
Now, we know she commits suicide.
What happened?
She has a second child named Mavis
in January of 1924.
This child does not do well.
By April 8th of 1924, Mavis died.
Later the same day, she actually got
a.32 caliber pistol, climbed into bed,
put the pistol to her forehead, and pulled the trigger
and died instantly.
- Wow. - There's the article.
She was 33 years old, and her body was discovered
by her 7-year-old daughter, Lorraine.
I've been there where I've had to deal with
young children that found a parent
that committed suicide,
and they don't bounce back from that. No.
So now we've got Milton here,
who lost a kid, lost his wife.-
What does he do after that?
Within seven months, he remarries.
He marries a woman by the name of Pansy --
Pansy Tenor.
This guy didn't waste no time.
She was 18 years old,
and he was 34 when they married.
Okay, so Milton's remarried at this point.
What happens next?
They actually have two sons,
and it seems to be a really decent marriage.
They stayed together.
He dies in 1947 of a massive heart attack
at 57 years of age.
Wow.
Now, I do have his death certificate.
And he dies on my client's property?
That's correct, yes.
The blond lady's here, ranting and raving.
She had been brought here by a living person
who couldn't get over her death
and now she's stuck here.
Do you have any idea on who it was
that did that to her?
I think it was an older man who did this.
It seemed like she got married young,
and I think she was kind of forced into that,
and then there was a death very soon afterwards.
I think she had a child, and she didn't want children.
The way she treated that child was not good.
I do see a gun.
I don't know if she killed herself.
So she got, like, a raw deal.
She's beyond angry.
She goes on a rampage,
and then everybody has to pay for the situation she's in.
She says, "It was a short life, and it sucked.
Now I'm dead, and I'm trapped here."
I saw several horrifying things during my walk,
but two stood out --
first, the dead woman attacking a living person.
The dead lady had blond hair,
very well done.
and she was in the process of trying
to smother this kid in the bed
by covering her mouth and pinching her nose.
Next, I described the rat creatures
trapping bad energy inside the house.
They were all on their hind legs.
I would say they were about, like, this tall.
Amy, is this what you saw?
Yes, that's what I saw.
Now that Amy and I have completed our investigations,
we're ready to reveal our findings to each other
and our clients for the first time.
Well, Amy, this is Minou.
Her story broke my heart.
She's hurting, and I hope and pray
at the end of this, we can bring her some hope.
This is her sister, Shannon, who lives here
along with their brother, Jack,
Minou's ex, Rick.
This is her son, Jon.
Now, nobody feels safe,
and they all feel that if we can't help them,
somebody's gonna get seriously hurt.
So now that Amy knows who you guys are,
I'll ask her to describe her walk for us.
The first thing that I got was in the hallway.
This was energy off of a living person that's here,
and I heard, "I don't want to be involved in this.
Why are you doing this?"
And there seemed to be a lot of mental chaos.
I felt like the individual was really, really immature.
The emotion and the mental state seemed like,
you know, when teenagers are going nuts,
but I kept thinking that this person
is older than that -- maybe in their 20s or 30s.
One of the main reasons Minou called us in
was because of her son, Jon,
and she's really worried about him.
Tell Amy how he's changed.
He doesn't hardly eat, he doesn't hardly sleep,
and he is very immature.
- How old is he? - He's 30.
He seems like a tortured soul to me.
He is. It's terrible.
Where does he sleep?
He sleeps in the back bedroom to the right.
Really?
I did get that there was a deceased female
who has latched on to a male in that bedroom.
Long brown hair, pale skin, very thin.
Is it possible that she would
want him to herself?
Yeah, she's on him --
like, literally wrapped around him.
You need a break, honey?
I'll be okay.
All right, so what else?
This other person that I encountered is another woman.
This one is a blonde.
Very, very unhappy dead person.
She feels like she never got a chance to live
the life she wanted to live.
She wanted a career,
but instead, she married very young.
Did not want to be a housewife.
So I don't think that she wanted to be a mother.
She said she died young,
which makes her even more upset.
She might have been around 27 when she died.
She died unusually, but I'm not exactly sure how.
I know she didn't die here.
She kept saying, "I don't belong here"
over and over.
After she died, family member brought her here
because that person just couldn't get over her death.
Then when that person died,
they moved on, but she didn't.
She got stuck here, and she's pissed.
It kind of sounds like somebody
I came across in my research.
Her name was Blanche Bryan,
and her life was short and tragic.
She married in 1912
to a blue-collar farmer named Milton Bryan.
So the expert I spoke to said that
she thought that Milton and Blanche's
relationship was pretty rotten
because she spent a lot of time
going back to her parents' house,
blaming mysterious illnesses.
It could have been depression
or some other kind of mental illness.
We're not sure.
Now, in 1916, their daughter Lorraine was born.
They didn't have a second kid for almost eight years.
Her name was Mavis.
Now, the baby was sickly, and she died three months later
on April 8th, 1924.
It was too much for Blanche.
That same day, she took a.32 revolver
and put it to her forehead and blew her brains out.
My God.
She was only 33 years old at the time.
Amy, you said the woman you saw didn't die here.
Blanche died at her parents' house one county over.
Now, can this blond woman you saw
mess with the living people here?
Yes. I got that she affects the living in several ways.
First, she makes people sick to their stomachs,
so there's nausea.
She can give you massive headaches.
Terrible headaches.
- Okay. - Terrible, terrible headaches.
It just feels like my brains are smashing against my skull.
She can get physical --
like just shoving people or pushing people,
also pinching people while they're sleeping.
You know, I didn't want to bring it up,
but you had some inappropriate touching.
Correct.
It's hard for me to describe, but, like,
I would sleep, and I would wake up
feeling as though
someone was touching me inappropriately.
Like, after that happened,
it just, like, kept reoccurring.
It happened like at least four or five times.
I don't understand. What have I done?
So, this blond lady do anything else?
What I saw was her messing with
somebody in the bedroom with two beds,
and she did say she hates the people in that room.
She was hovering over someone who was sleeping
and trying to smother them.
I had a sketch done of what I saw.
Geez.
My God.
My God.
My granddaughter sleeps in that room.
You think that's your granddaughter in that bed?
All right, so I'm gonna get on to
the other deceased individual that's here.
So, this is a dead male -- extremely present here.
I got that he's an older white male with white hair.
I got that he was either a family member
or friend of a living male who's here.
I got that this male died from a heart attack.
Felt like this happened recently.
One thing that stood out about him
was that he's extremely worried about his children.
When he's around, you'd feel like
you need to get out of the house.
And he does this on purpose
because he's trying to send a warning to the living
about something even more dangerous that's here.
He's trying to tell you to help save yourselves.
Well, I got a pretty good idea
who she's talking about.
His name was Lloyd Ferris. Yep.
And he was a friend of Minou and her family
for a very long time.
The spare bedroom he slept in is where Jon sleeps in now.
Now, he wound up living here for about 10 years, right?
- Something like that. - Yeah.
Yeah, he was like one of us.
Now, in March of 1995,
he died of a heart attack in that room.
So I got his death certificate here.
I feel fine with him here.
I mean, he's trying to protect us.
But I'd like to see him move on.
So, it sounds like Lloyd is trying to warn them.
Warn them about what, though?
It's kind of weird.
So, I'm in the backyard. I see a bunch of things.
And they looked like really large rats.
So there's about 20 of them,
and they've formed a perimeter around the house,
and what they do is they attract negative energy
and trap it inside the house.
Being surrounded by the negative energy
can cause physical illness.
I got nausea, again, vomiting,
diarrhea, and feeling drained.
Well, Minou, let's talk about you being nauseated.
Sometimes I just get nauseated,
can't eat,
and I'm just exhausted --
just completely exhausted
for no reason.
Now, Shannon, you told me about being drained.
Yeah. I mean, even tonight, I'm physically just worn out.
I just want to leave.
This negative energy can also affect people's moods
and change their personalities.
I know I've been told by two people
I'm crushing their spirits...
No.
...because I'm so mean.
I don't mean to be mean.
I try so hard.
But I had Shannon tell me I was crushing her spirit,
and then my son told me the same thing.
Jon's personality has changed, as well.
Yeah.
Dealing with it -- it's just killing me.
It's just killing me.
I'm tired of living through all this.
What I'm curious about
is what these little rat bastards look like.
I did have a sketch done.
You weren't kidding, were you?
What's that?
Is this black, swirly stuff the bad energy?
- Yes. - Okay.
Jon mentioned to me about seeing
some kind of a swirly energy...
that was white.
İnteresting.
Now, have these things always been here?
They were brought here by a living person,
and I don't think this happened too, too long ago.
This person was into witchcraft...
My God.
...dark magic.
Well, we all know who she's talking about.
Yep.
Well, Minou, want to tell her about Jon's girlfriend?
She came over here, spent the night,
and said she had seven different personalities.
Did he want to see them?
And he said, when they started coming out... What?!
...he got very, very scared,
and he thought they were demons.
Holy...
Things, like, started getting bad.
He called her and asked her
if she dealt in the occult at all,
and she told him yes.
Ohhhhhh! What?!
She admitted it?
I, then, started getting attacked.
No.
Do we think she brought these rat things here?
Yes.
Like, it is so, so bad.
That's my little baby.
I can't even imagine now
the torture he's going through
with all this...going on.
So, Minou, the other day you told me
you felt like you were living in hell. Yep.
And turns out you really are.
So now we need to find out if there's any way to fix this mess
so you guys can stay here.
For that, I'm gonna turn it over to Amy.
It's not an easy fix, I'll tell you that.
Okay, so the first thing I would like to see y'all do
is to get a male medium
to move on the blond woman and Lloyd,
somebody like Steve --
very old-school, old-fashioned.
The reason why this male has to be
that specific way is more for the female...
...because she's old-school.
Once that happens, she's gonna run out of here
'cause she does not want to be here.
And then he can move Lloyd on, as well,
and all he needs to be assured of, basically,
is that y'all got his message, and he will leave.
So that's number one.
Now, here's what's gonna suck.
So, I would like you to see a voodoo priest.
This girl placed a curse on this house
and brought these things here.
Fight fire with fire.
When you're dealing with the darkness,
you need someone to counteract that darkness.
He can remove this.
So, now, once the voodoo priest comes in and does his thing,
it'll get rid of these rat creatures
or whatever the hell they are?
- Yes. - Okay.
All right, so let me ask you a question.
Do you think your son will go see this voodoo priest?
- I don't know. - Here's the thing.
If he won't do it, he'd have to go away.
He could not come back,
especially after you have the rituals done.
Well, listen, you know your son
better than anybody else.
What's the story?
Do you think you're gonna be able to convince him
to get this done and be part of it?
I'm gonna have to. I don't have a choice.
You got to try. You can't live like this.
No, I can't.
This is something that's fixable.
This has to be fixed.
He has to be fixed.
I'm gonna be on his ass about it.
Either he goes, or I'm gonna have to go.
It's gonna be one or the other,
'cause I'm not gonna live like this anymore.
I'm not gonna do it.
I really hope Minou convinces Jon
to see a voodoo priest.
If he does, the rat creatures and negative energy will leave.
And with the help of a medium,
the dead blonde and their friend Lloyd
can be moved on, as well,
and this family can find the peace it's been looking for.
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