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It's all evil.

They could be related to the cars.

I am seeing a shotgun.

So I know this guy gets whacked.

He tells me stuff that a 3- or 4-year-old shouldn't know.

I'm afraid for his safety.

Is this for real right now?

You can die very early.

Definitely not a good situation to be in.

Panic, panic, panic.

My name is Amy Allan.

I'm seeing, like, blood.

The house just feels bad.

I see dead people.

This man is completely insane.

I speak to dead people.

Okay, she doesn't like it in there.

And they speak to me.

He likes to twist that knife.

But there's only one way to know if my findings are real.

Something paranormal is trying to kill them.

I rely on my partner.

I'm Steve Di Schiavi.

I'm a retired New York City homicide detective.

Now, does he die right there on the spot?

I know every person, every house has secrets.

I think it's trying to steal my soul.

It's my job to reveal them.

You ever get touched like that again?

But Steve and I never speak...

We never communicate during an investigation.

...until the very end...

I'm as stunned as you guys are.

...when we uncover if it's safe for you to stay...

I don't want anything to happen to my daughter.

...or time to get out.

His goal is to kill you guys.

I'm in Oregon, Ohio. It's right outside of Toledo.

I got a call from a married couple.

Now, they bought an old building in town

and turned it into their dream business,

but the second they brought their son

onto the property, everything went to hell.

Now they're afraid everyone who walks

through those doors is in danger,

and I'm hoping Amy and I can help them out.

Before Amy arrives,

I sweep the area of any leading information.

This is a large space with a lot of photos,

electronic equipment,

and children's toys,

so it's important I cover or remove them all.

When I'm done, the location will be ready for tonight's walk.

I heard this gravelly-sounding voice,

and it was, like, yelling at me,

and all I heard was, "Dark and cold,"

and they kept repeating this over and over and over.

"Dark, dark. It's all dark. Evil."

It's not good.

So, Jamie, when we spoke on the phone,

you were breaking my heart.

You didn't sound too good. What's going on?

Myself and my husband work here together every day,

and there's been a lot of paranormal activity

that's going on that's not safe.

All right, so obviously, you guys don't live here.

What's the business here? What's going on here?

My husband owns a towing company,

and we tow for the police departments in the area,

and I own and operate my own one-station salon.

We bring my 4-year-old to work with us every day,

and with what's going on, I am afraid for his safety.

Okay, so I'm assuming this is your son here?

It is. Brody.

He's a big boy. He is.

Now you seem to think there's a connection

between Brody and all the activity. Yeah.

Ever since Brody has been here,

it seems like more has happened.

He's telling me that he's seeing and talking to people.

I'm concerned that something bad

could happen while he's around.

Can you give me a list of what you guys are going through?

Hearing voices, objects moving on their own,

seeing shadow figures, things have gotten physical.

Our health is just deteriorating.

Health issues -- What are talking about?

I have headaches more often than I don't,

constant neck and back pain, nausea,

and Brian is so unhealthy,

and it wasn't like that until we were here.

Now do you know any history about the property?

We knew about the previous owner's death on the property.

The owner's name was John.

All right, so that's something I'm gonna look into,

so I got to ask you --

What do you think is here, and what the hell does want?

I'm not really sure what's here,

but it almost feels like someone is trying to get us out.

Why do you say that?

I was taking care of a client,

and Brody came running in a panic.

"We need to leave right now. We can't be here anymore.

We're not allowed to be here anymore,"

crying, with tears literally running down his face.

That'll kill you as a mother.

It's awful.

How do you explain something that you don't even know

what's really happening, you know?

I know, honey.

You got a lot on your plate, sweetheart.

We'll get through this, okay?

I'm seeing a group of dead people out here.

These dead people are confused and depressed.

They could be related to the cars.

They're all just kind of like...

lost.

How might living here -- How might that affect them?

It's gonna cause a lot of fear, panic, and depression.

They might see, like, gray figures moving out here.

These dead people want to go inside,

but something is stopping them,

and I think that is where the issues arise.

This is where Brody normally plays when I'm doing hair.

Some pretty cool stuff in here. What's going on?

The anxiety level for all of us is through the roof.

And how does this last?

Sometimes it's until we go home.

And this is affecting Brody, as well? Yes.

So is Brody actually here today?

He is. Brody?

Hi. Come here. Hi.

Can you say hi to Steve?

- Hi. - Hi. How are you?

So, Brody, Mom tells me that you talk to somebody out here.

Do you know their name?

John.

You talk to two different people named John,

or is it one person that looks like two different people?

Do they scare you at all?

Do they talk to you?

Okay. You feel better when you leave here?

Well, buddy, thanks for telling me what's going on.

I'm gonna finish talking with Mommy.

Would you mind going, playing in the other room?

Okay. Good.

Go ahead.

He's a cute kid.

All right. So anything else?

I saw a full-body, male apparition

standing there with his fist clenched, facing me.

So, was there any customers maybe came in?

I thought someone had broke in,

and then when I looked up again, he was gone.

What was running through your head when that happened?

That I was in danger.

I felt like he was ready to, like, rush me.

There's a different, older group of dead people in here.

My feeling is, this group

doesn't want the other group of dead in here.

This older group is trying to, you know,

get everybody out, like, the living and the dead.

How?

They're projecting these weird images

to try to scare the living to run away.

Meanwhile, they're also fighting with the dead outside

to keep them locked out of here.

Those older dead are bullies.

They're bullying them, you know what I'm saying?

So, Jamie, obviously this is where you do

the hair and stuff, right? Yep.

Okay, so what's going on?

I constantly have headaches, pain down my neck, my back,

like I was beat up by multiple people

or like someone actually has you

by the back of your neck... Okay.

...and just squeezing and squeezing and squeezing

until, like, you can't even bear any more.

Do you have any injuries? No.

I've been going to the doctor's.

I went through all kinds of tests,

and they can find nothing.

Okay, so anything else?

Extreme mood swings with all three of us, even Brody.

How's it happen?

I can just be normal, everything's fine.

I'm happy to be at work, and something minor will happen,

and it will literally send me off the deep end,

and I feel like I want to just hurt someone.

Okay. Is that your personality?

Not at all.

So is it always the anger thing,

or do you have any other emotions?

Sometimes it's just like extreme sadness.

Is it affecting your relationship with your husband?

It makes it extremely difficult.

Every day, it feels like it should be the end of the world,

and we should just give up.

Easy thing would be to just get the hell out.

I don't want to do that.

This is our life, and we just want it to be normal

and feel safe. Right.

But right now, I feel like it's not.

The fighting between the two groups of dead

is really bad.

It seems like it's territorial.

Do you know if the living might have any experiences

because of their interactions?

I think living people would be subjected to the stress

that the dead are feeling here.

The living would feel sudden, you know, like, rage.

They might lash out at other living people.

I think that the living would feel intense vertigo,

the vomiting, the depression.

They're making me feel sick.

So, Brian, I was talking to your wife,

and she doesn't feel it's safe here

for anybody in your family, especially your son.

I mean, do you agree with that? Yes, I do.

He's experiencing a lot, and I know it's affecting him.

In what way? He's seeing people that aren't there.

He tells me stuff that a 3- or 4-year-old shouldn't know.

This is a dangerous place to start with,

and I'm just afraid he could get hurt,

seriously hurt, if not killed.

Your wife mentioned your health. Yes.

What's up with that?

I've had several sort of major issues.

Bell's palsy was the first thing I had,

ulcerative colitis.

It's very hard to even sometimes get out of bed,

and I also feel drained all the time.

So have you seen doctors about all these health issues? Yes.

They have no idea what causes it, and it's getting worse.

When I was talking to Jamie, she was mentioning to me

about mood swings.

I mean, have you noticed it affecting you?

I have. When I'm here, like,

if my son does something very minor,

I will sometimes feel extremely angry,

and if he would do the same thing when we're at home,

it's just not a big deal.

Well, we'll have to see what Amy says about all that.

Now, have you had any experiences

that are definitely paranormal?

I saw a shadow figure over this way,

and I've seen that at least 15 to 20 times.

When I'd walk up to the door,

I would see somebody sticking their head,

and their shoulder would be sticking out.

As soon as they see me, they dart back inside.

What the hell was going through your mind when you saw that?

It actually scared me 'cause I thought somebody

had broke in my building while we were closed,

and I searched the whole building.

There was nothing there.

There's an old, dead guy in here.

I think he's in charge of the dead inside.

I just feel really dizzy, really sick, nauseous.

These are things I think the living would feel.

This older dude, he likes things organized.

He likes things a certain way,

and he definitely influences the living

to what he wants or how he likes things done.

He's, like, saying, "I ran a tight ship.

I ran a tight ship, and that's what I expect."

It's weird because, you know, one thing is,

is like being influenced with his, like --

we'll just call it OCD.

They could carry that to their homes,

and they can't stop themselves, you know, from doing it.

Okay, so what's going on here?

I feel like I have something influencing me,

will cause me to make decisions

that later I really have no recollection of. Okay.

So give me an example of what you're talking about.

I have a car crusher, and, honestly,

I didn't really even remember doing much of that.

Next thing you know, I've got a car crusher,

and we're crushing cars.

I don't know where that idea really came from.

So, you're telling me

you bought a huge, expensive piece of equipment,

but you don't remember doing it?-

Well, that's a first.

All right, so any other experiences you can tell me about?

We have things that get moved

quite often just on their own.

Okay, so give me an example of what we're talking about.

Anything from small hand tools,

welders moving, cars moving,

900- to 1,000-pound tires rolling.

That can be seriously dangerous.

Now, anything else physical like that happen to you?

I had an experience where I was sitting in my office,

and I had felt as if somebody

had reached through my back --

as if somebody was grabbing my spine and twisting it.

I felt really bad after that.

You know, your wife was describing something similar.

If my partner says to you, "You got to go.

You can't fix it," what would you do?

If somebody had asked me that about year or two ago,

I would've said there's no way I would do it,

but the way things are now -- and I'm really fearful

for my son and my wife's safety,

and my own at the same time --

but, yeah, I would leave.

The older dude lays down the law,

you know, with everybody.

I think he gets physical with people.

If he gets physical with somebody,

you're gonna feel it for a while.

Like, it's not just gonna go away,

and it's weird because he doesn't think

that that's a bad thing 'cause back in his day,

that was completely appropriate behavior.

Oof.

What the hell?

He, like, pushed me, and then now it feels

like my upper spine is, like...

breaking.

My back, my back hurts now a lot.

God. I feel so sick.

Jamie told me a former owner died on the property,

so I called a local detective, who says she's right.

Not only that, she knew the guy.

She says this guy's death was a freak accident

that never should've happened.

Kelly, thanks for helping me out with this case.

I appreciate that.

So I know you knew the guy, John,

that died on my clients' property.

What did you know about him?

His name was John Swigert,

and he owned a towing company and ran an auto shop

that was on the property that your clients bought.

So, Kelly, how did you know John?

Swigert's collision had a tow contract

with the City of Oregon Police Department.

Did you know anything about him, like, what kind of guy he was?

He was kind of a no-nonsense guy.

He didn't take any BS from anyone,

and he was in the Army in the Korean War,

and it kind of came out in his personality.

It was not uncommon for us to get called to the shop

for him having a disagreement with one of his patrons.

What kind of disagreement, like --

Typically, he would just get in arguments

if they didn't have enough money to pay.

He just wasn't gonna back down.

So, Kelly, do you have any idea when he acquired the property?

He bought the property back in 1973,

and I actually have a few photos here from that era.

All right, so I know he dies on the property.

Yeah. It was July 21st, 2005.

John was in the process of moving a motorcycle

from his tow truck to a flatbed trailer,

and it seems as though the tow truck crept back

and pinned him in between the truck and the trailer.

It compressed him, and he suffocated.

We actually had a detective do an investigation,

and here is a copy of that report.

Was there any indication that he might have been drinking,

any drugs in his system, anything like that?

According to his son, he had been sober for about a decade,

and according to the autopsy report,

there was no signs of alcohol in his system.

Did they ever figure out

if there was anything wrong with the truck?

Like, did it have a malfunction, anything like that?

Well, we tested the truck several times

to try to replicate the accident,

and didn't find any mechanical problems with it.

What a horrible way to go.

This older dude, I think he feels pretty comfortable here.

I would say that he was here at some point

'cause he feels like he owns all this.

He is very tough and lays down the law,

you know, with everybody.

He's, like, very organized, got rules and regulations

about how things are supposed to be.

I think he was military -- former military.

Do you have any idea how he died?

I feel like a car accident.

I got somebody with a broken back, and it seems recent.

He also hurt my back.

I think he kind of did that to get me to leave.

So far, I've got a family under attack by paranormal activity

on a property where the former owner died

in a mysterious accident,

but I want to see if there's anything else.

Searching through old records, I come across Joe Urbaytis.

Turns out, he was a notorious mobster

who was murdered under mysterious circumstances.

So I'm headed over to meet a local author

who's written all about this gangster.

Now, he says this guy's life could've been made into a movie,

and his death happened right across the street

from my clients' property.

So, Lou, thanks for meeting with me here. I appreciate that.

Now, you mentioned on the phone that this guy's life

could've been made into a movie. What did you mean by that?

Well, Joe Urbaytis is a colorful, charismatic,

locally-famous gangster. Okay.

He ran an illegal speakeasy and a gambling club

not too far from your clients' property.

So how does he become famous?

In 1921, he and his gang led the biggest heist

ever in the city of Toledo's history.

Okay, so what happened?

They follow a mail truck over to the old post office,

and they pull off a mail robbery

of cash, bonds, and securities worth about $1 million,

or in today's dollars, probably over $13 million.

So that's a big score for them. Yeah.

He gets caught a few days later.

Three years later, he stands trial,

and he's convicted.

He's sent off to Atlanta Federal Prison for 60 years.

But I know he gets out. How does he get out?

Well, long story short, they had filed an appeal on his case,

and so the appeal is successful.

1943, he's out.

He's back on the streets again. What does he do?

He opens this illegal gambling parlor,

Bon Aire Supper Club,

not far from your clients' property.

So, I know this guy gets whacked. What happened?

Well, it happened early on November the 5th, 1946.

He's in the Bon Aire Supper Club early in the morning,

goes to answer the door, goes to the rear entrance,

and somebody comes up and shoots him --

plugs him twice.

Heart, lung -- he's lying there.

He's gasping for breath.

People run over to try to talk to him,

to say, "Who did this?"

Mobster's code, he's not giving it up.

He takes the secret to his grave.

He knows who did it, but he's not saying a word.

A few minutes later, he dies at the age of 47.

There are still lots of questions

that revolve around this thing.

Nobody knows exactly what happened.

I'm getting a guy running up to me,

seems to be white, probably in his 30s.

He's from, like, maybe the '30s or '40s.

I don't know if this guy knows he's dead.

He's freaking out. He wants to get out of here.

He needs help.

He was involved in a bad situation,

was involved in some kind of a shooting.

I am seeing a shotgun, and I got that it's a murder.

He's a mess, like, physically,

and then somebody was talking about a post office.

There's a woman crying because somebody died.

The woman keeps saying, "He didn't have to die like that."

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You know, another thing caught my attention in research.

Back in the 1920s, there was a huge explosion

right down the road from Jamie and Brian's property.

The historian I'm headed over to meet says

it's still one of the worst tragedies in the town's history.

Well, Meg, I appreciate you meeting with me.

Now, this explosion that happened

near my clients' property, what do you know about it?

It happened at the Sun Oil Refinery.

Your clients' property was about 3,000 feet away,

and the explosion happened about 7:15 on Sunday,

February 27th, 1928.

All right, so what happened with this explosion?

What started everything?

A fire started under one of the tankers at this refinery.

All of the sudden, it exploded,

and it blew 75 feet in the air.

Within minutes, half the refinery is on fire.

Okay, so this is a pretty big explosion? Yes.

What about my clients' property?

Would they have felt anything?

They certainly would've felt the impact.

You know, they might have felt a physical shake.

Okay, so they might have even thought there was an earthquake?

They would've seen not only the fire,

but they would've seen their neighbors

coming by to find out what was happening.

Hundreds of people gathered to watch this fire.

Now, I know this explosion was deadly,

but what are we talking about as far as casualties go?

Well, three men were killed, and two others were injured,

and I've got the death certificates here

of the men who were killed.

It looks like they all died from burns.

Anything stand out about any of the victims?

Yes. Earl Miller.

He was 39.

The strange thing about his story is,

he was found maybe a half mile from the refinery.

He was wandering, he was dazed, he was confused,

and he was badly burned.

He actually went to the hospital,

but he couldn't survive.

He died a couple days later.

Okay, so any wrongful death lawsuits or negligence

against the company? No.

The company was absolved of any guilt in the case at all.

They're still operating as a refinery on that location.

It was a pretty tragic story. It was awful.

I just can't imagine.

Something very bad happened here.

It's just terrible.

I saw a bunch of people running around yelling.

Do you have any idea what happened to these people?

I am seeing a fire.

Like, at least 10 people died.

I'm seeing all this black stuff. What do you mean?

I couldn't tell if it was charcoal or, like,

wood that had been burnt.

And there was an explosion.

I got a man on fire.

He's kind of, like, burnt and glowing

and is currently still on fire.

I saw several horrifying things during my walk,

but the dead, old man attacking a living person

has me the most concerned.

Probably late 60s, early 70s.

He's wearing, like, some kind of a uniform

that buttons down the front.

It's dirty.

He's probably some kind of mechanic.

He is lunging at a living male.

Amy, is this what you saw?

Yes, that's what I saw.

Now that Amy and I have completed our investigations,

we're ready to reveal our findings to each other

and our clients for the first time.

So, Amy, I'd like you to meet Jamie and her husband, Brian.

As you might have guessed, they run a couple of businesses here,

so they get to be here together all day long

and bring their 4-year-old son, Brody, to work with them.

I got a photo of Brody right here.

Now, the trouble is, the activity is getting pretty violent here,

and they're afraid somebody's gonna get seriously hurt.

So now that Amy knows who you guys are,

I'm gonna to ask her to describe her walk for us.

First thing I want to talk about is something strange

I saw around the garages.

There's this guy, like, running up to me,

freaking out, moving weird,

you know, yelling and screaming --

seemed very confused, very upset.

He was white, probably in his 30s.

He was involved in some kind of shooting or murder.

I got that there was a shotgun and that somebody died.

There was also some kind of weird connection

with him and a post office.

I glanced to the side of him, and I see a woman,

and she's crying, and she's saying over and over again,

"He didn't have to die like this."

A lot of things she was saying reminds me

of a pretty interesting story

I came across during my research.

Back in the 1920s, there was a well-known gangster

in the neighborhood by the name Joe Urbaytis.

Well, Urbaytis was 21,

and he led a gang that pulled off the biggest heist

in Toledo history at the time.

Now, get this -- They did it by robbing the post office.

So they arrest him.

Somehow this guy won an appeal and was released in 1943.

Urbaytis wound up coming back into town,

and he opened up a gambling parlor

right across the street from here.

So now, in the early morning hours

of November 5th, 1946,

he answers a knock on the back door.

He opens it, and he gets shot twice.

He died a few minutes later,

and he was 47 years old at the time of his death.

Man.

And I got mugshots of our guy when he was younger

and then when he was older.

Is it possible that this is the guy that you ran into?

Yes.

Wow. Haven't heard of any of this.

Last week, our son, Brody, was in the office with his dad.

And he told me he was just talking to him.

He said he was talking about Joe.

Wow.

All right, so this gangster,

does he do anything to these guys?

Yes.

There were some things that he does,

possibly hearing him yelling and screaming.

Then he can move things.

Well, Brian spoke to me about stuff moving in the garage.

I was painting monster truck tires and wheels.

They're 6 feet tall Yeah, I saw those, yeah.

They're big tires.

And all of the sudden, one of tires just took off,

and they weigh 900, 1,000 pounds.

There's nobody there.

So you can understand why it's so dangerous

for Brody to be here. Yeah.

Like, if that had rolled --

He'd be crushed to death.

It just makes me scared for him.

It makes life miserable.

All right, what else?

There's two organized groups of dead people.

The first group were the outsiders.

They come and go out of the second garage,

and that's kind of their territory, all right?

So they're, like, very confused.

They're extremely depressed.

Each of them died in a very traumatic manner.

I got accidents, I got shooting,

some suicide or something.

So, I don't know if you realize or noticed,

but one of the businesses they have is a towing company.

Now, he's got a contract with the police department,

so, basically, you've got cars out there

that would've had dead bodies in them at some point

or caused a fatal accident.

Yeah, there's more than I can count since we've been there.

Most of them are looking for help.

You may feel their emotions, which is confusion, chaos,

depression, fear, panic,

and these can come on because they're around you.

The last few years, I have just horrific depression --

like...just horrible.

Like, I feel like it's the end of the world.

Do you feel better when you're away from the location?

As soon as I lock the door, and I'm in my truck,

that starts to dissipate.

Interesting. So here's the thing.

This is happening to you because you're a physical medium.

- Is this for real right now? - Yeah.

The dead love you.

You know, they're gonna be going to you.

They're gonna be, you know, attaching.

They're gonna be following.

You're gonna have these experiences,

and your son, he's a medium, too.

You okay?

So let's get on to the second group of people --

the inside people.

They try to keep the outsiders outside.

There's constant fights going on between these two groups.

Remember you mentioned you saw a guy

with his fist clenched?

Tell Amy what you saw 'cause I'm wondering

if this is one of the guys fighting.

We walked in the office,

and there was a male standing there, tall,

tall as Brian, clenched fists, and I jumped back

because I legitimately thought we were about to be hurt.

While they're fighting,

you could suddenly feel a lot of stress,

but the biggest emotion would be, like, sudden rage,

flying off the handle at each other,

not really understanding why you're feeling this way.

Yeah, I will be perfectly fine, and all of a sudden,

something will just flip my switch,

and I'm so angry,

I mean, I feel like I could rip something apart.

It'll just be normal, everything's great,

and it'll be something minor,

and I just scream at the top of my lungs and blow my top.

I'm afraid to ask, is there more? Yes.

There's an older, dead man here I'm worried about.

So, this guy is kind of, like, the leader

of the indoor dead group.

He's, like, in his 60s or 70s.

He seemed to be extremely meticulous,

possibly military, very old school,

very authoritative, controlling.

I felt like he used to own the property.

I'm pretty sure I know who you're talking about

or who you saw.

I'm guessing these two do, as well.

So one of the guys that --

who owned this place before these two took over

was a guy named John Swigert.

He owned the towing company on the property for about 32 years.

The guy you saw, you said was in the military.

Well, Swigert served in the U.S. Army during the Korean War.

You mentioned your guy was authoritative and controlling.

Now, the detective I spoke to knew Swigert

and said he was a no-nonsense guy.

He used to actually get into fights with people

who try to get their cars back without paying.

In July of 2005, he was transferring a motorcycle

from the back of a tow truck to another truck.

The tow truck started to creep back on him.

By the time Swigert noticed, it was too late,

and he was pinned between the two trucks.

And he got crushed and wound up suffocating to death,

and I got the police accident report,

but the conclusion of the investigation,

they were never able to figure out

what made that truck move back onto Swigert.

And I got a photo of him.

You said it was the former owner.

Do you think Swigert's the guy you saw? Yes.

Now, let me ask you something.

Would they have experiences with this guy?

Yes, you would.

He was the most powerful deceased individual

on the property.

I got a lot of anxiety from him.

I felt dizzy and sick and nauseous from him.

Now, she talked about anxiety.

Both of you have experienced that.

It's all the time.

You're just always on edge.

It's like you're walking on eggshells or glass.

Like, you're just always anticipating...

Doom. Like -- yes! Exactly.

You suffer from headaches and stuff, too, right?

Extreme.

It gets to the point where I literally am ill.

I can't eat, I can't talk, I can't focus.

The biggest thing that I didn't like

is his influence over the living.

He thinks he's still the boss.

He wants things done his way,

and he will influence you to make his way happen.

We talked about you being influenced

and doing stuff at the garage that you wouldn't do, right?

Yes. I bought a car crusher

and a front-end loader to crush cars,

and then at the end of that, I kind of thought,

"Why in the world did I do this?"

"Why did I do this?"

Like, some of the things, I thought,

maybe the living suddenly would have, like,

this obsession with being organized,

and you might bring these OCD tendencies home.

Can he do that to Brody?

Yeah.

Brody is extremely meticulous.

He's always been that way.

So, he's been influenced, basically, his whole life?

Yeah, that's crazy.

Can this guy do anything else?

What he likes to do is get physical.

What the hell?

And he, like, pushed me, and then now it feels

like my upper spine is, like...

breaking.

And I saw him doing this to somebody in the garage,

and I did have a sketch done of that.

Well, you're not going to like this.

Now I'm scared.

So, Brian, do me a favor and explain to Amy

what happened to you when you were attacked.

It felt like something reached in and grabbed my spine

and was twisting it until I literally had pain

all the way down.

Now, didn't you suffer from a similar pain?

Yes, I felt as if someone grabbed me

by the back of the neck and just squeezed and squeezed.

He's got a short temper.

If you're not doing what he wants,

he's gonna physically hurt you

or try and make you sick.

You've had ongoing health issues.

Several, and, I mean, it's just been one thing after another.

Now, is this all Swigert, or is this because he's a medium?

It's both. Yeah, let's just say,

this is not a good situation for anybody,

and then you have a kid who's a medium, too,

in an extraordinarily active environment.

Definitely not a good situation for him to be in.

We love it here.

Brody loves it here.

I love it, but it's dangerous, apparently,

and I don't want any of us to be hurt,

especially my son.

It's a scary thing being a physical medium

'cause you can die very early.

Kind of scared.

You okay, honey?

So, Jamie, Brian, you got a lot going on here,

and, obviously, it dangerous.

Now it's time to answer the big question --

Is there a way to stop the activity

and keep you guys and Brody safe,

or do you need to get the hell out of here while you still can?

For that question, I'm gonna turn it over to Amy.

So, the first thing I would like you to do

is to get a medium and a psychic knower

to come and move these two groups of deceased people on.

They need to go.

The medium will engage and move the dead people

with the help of the psychic.

Is that gonna include Swigert and our dead gangster?

Yes.

Will that stop the depression, the rage?

- Yeah. - All the physical attacks?

Well, yeah, that's gonna go.

The next thing, with you being a physical medium --

for your safety, you need to set boundaries

that work for the dead and mean it.

So state these things out loud --

"You are only allowed to come to me in the office

and in the garage once per week for 2 hours."

So, there you go.

It's just a matter of dealing with the dead

the way you're dealing with the living.

Then the last thing I want you guys to do

is to start looking for books for protection meditations.

You're gonna find meditation

becomes your saving grace with this ability,

and it's also something your son's going to have to learn eventually.

Now what about Brody?

Does he need to stay away from here?

Temporarily.

Once this is all settled and situated,

he can come back here.

Well, now you know what's got to be done.

Are you gonna do this?

- Not even a question. - We'll do it.

You keep the business you love, and you keep your son safe.

- That's all we want. - That's all we care about.

I actually have an overwhelming sense of relief.

You guys are even more amazing than we'd hoped for.

Well, we appreciate that.

Jamie and Brian have their work cut out for them,

but if they bring in a medium and a psychic knower

to remove the dangerous dead,

and Brian and Brody learn how to harness their abilities,

this family will finally find the peace it deserves.

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