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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:10,378 --> 00:00:13,678 It was causing wicked hallucinations. 2 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:17,750 My son -- I'm afraid he'll be traumatized for life. 3 00:00:17,752 --> 00:00:21,954 He's trying to kill them. 4 00:00:21,956 --> 00:00:24,390 - He hits me. - Yeah? Where does he hit you? 5 00:00:26,527 --> 00:00:28,193 Did you touch me? 6 00:00:29,363 --> 00:00:31,729 He pulled the trigger, blew his head off. 7 00:00:32,900 --> 00:00:36,168 I'm thinking he killed himself. 8 00:00:36,170 --> 00:00:39,171 He's whispering, "You want to kill everybody." 9 00:00:40,341 --> 00:00:42,875 Panic, panic, panic. 10 00:00:42,877 --> 00:00:44,777 My name is Amy Allan. 11 00:00:44,779 --> 00:00:46,611 I'm seeing, like, blood. 12 00:00:46,613 --> 00:00:49,915 The house just feels bad. 13 00:00:49,917 --> 00:00:51,183 I see dead people. 14 00:00:51,185 --> 00:00:55,554 This man is completely insane. 15 00:00:55,556 --> 00:00:58,724 I speak to dead people... 16 00:00:58,726 --> 00:01:00,893 Whoo. Okay. She doesn't like it in there. 17 00:01:00,895 --> 00:01:02,895 ...and they speak to me. 18 00:01:02,897 --> 00:01:04,930 He likes to twist that knife. 19 00:01:04,932 --> 00:01:08,500 But there's only one way to know if my findings are real. 20 00:01:08,502 --> 00:01:12,170 Something paranormal is trying to kill them. 21 00:01:12,172 --> 00:01:13,639 I rely on my partner. 22 00:01:13,641 --> 00:01:15,174 I'm Steve Di Schiavi. 23 00:01:15,176 --> 00:01:17,509 I'm a retired New York City homicide detective. 24 00:01:17,511 --> 00:01:19,144 Now does he die right there, on the spot? 25 00:01:19,146 --> 00:01:23,081 I know every person, every house has secrets. 26 00:01:23,083 --> 00:01:25,717 I think it's trying to steal my soul. 27 00:01:25,719 --> 00:01:27,553 It's my job to reveal them. 28 00:01:27,555 --> 00:01:29,855 You ever get touched like that again? 29 00:01:29,857 --> 00:01:31,757 But Steve and I never speak... 30 00:01:31,759 --> 00:01:33,825 We never communicate during an investigation. 31 00:01:33,827 --> 00:01:35,160 ...until the very end. 32 00:01:35,162 --> 00:01:37,329 I'm as stunned as you guys are. 33 00:01:37,331 --> 00:01:39,264 When we uncover if it's safe for you to stay... 34 00:01:39,266 --> 00:01:41,900 I don't want anything to happen to my daughter. 35 00:01:41,902 --> 00:01:43,335 Or time to get out. 36 00:01:43,337 --> 00:01:46,672 His goal is to kill you guys. 37 00:01:59,019 --> 00:02:00,819 I'm in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania. 38 00:02:00,821 --> 00:02:04,222 It's an old steel town about an hour north of Philadelphia. 39 00:02:04,224 --> 00:02:06,258 I got a call from a single mom named Nicole. 40 00:02:06,260 --> 00:02:08,793 Now she says the very day she brought her son home 41 00:02:08,795 --> 00:02:12,497 from the hospital, activity started going crazy. 42 00:02:12,499 --> 00:02:15,433 The boy is 3 now and getting picked on every day, 43 00:02:15,435 --> 00:02:18,270 and she says if we can't help, he's gonna get hurt. 44 00:02:24,511 --> 00:02:28,313 Before Amy arrives, I look for any leading information. 45 00:02:28,315 --> 00:02:31,650 Photographs, paintings, even children's art 46 00:02:31,652 --> 00:02:32,951 can influence her findings... 47 00:02:35,890 --> 00:02:38,924 so it's important that I cover or remove them all. 48 00:02:38,926 --> 00:02:41,059 When I'm finished, the location will be ready 49 00:02:41,061 --> 00:02:42,594 for tonight's walk. 50 00:02:51,739 --> 00:02:54,473 Yeah, this is not good. 51 00:02:54,475 --> 00:02:56,207 I hear yelling. 52 00:02:56,209 --> 00:02:59,678 People are dealing with bad stuff. 53 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:01,914 They're freaking out and cryin' and screamin'. 54 00:03:04,251 --> 00:03:06,618 Feel, like, panic, lots of panic, panic, 55 00:03:06,620 --> 00:03:08,086 like I'm gonna pass out. 56 00:03:08,088 --> 00:03:09,855 It's like, "Aah!" 57 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:20,698 Well, Nicole, I'm glad I'm here 58 00:03:20,700 --> 00:03:21,967 'cause after talking to you on the phone, 59 00:03:21,969 --> 00:03:23,335 it sounds like you're going through hell. 60 00:03:23,337 --> 00:03:26,805 - What's going on? - Our life here is a daily hell. 61 00:03:26,807 --> 00:03:29,308 My son is having such horrible experiences 62 00:03:29,310 --> 00:03:32,878 that I'm really worried for his safety. 63 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:35,447 Let's back it up a second. Who exactly lives in the house? 64 00:03:35,449 --> 00:03:38,683 Okay. Well, it's me and my son. 65 00:03:38,685 --> 00:03:40,752 August -- he's 3 years old. 66 00:03:40,754 --> 00:03:42,954 - Okay. - This is my friend, Patty. 67 00:03:42,956 --> 00:03:46,058 She moved in a couple months ago with her daughter, Haley. 68 00:03:46,060 --> 00:03:48,260 It's just temporary. They're moving out soon. 69 00:03:48,262 --> 00:03:50,262 Are they moving out because of what's going on here? 70 00:03:50,264 --> 00:03:54,299 Yes. They really didn't believe until they experienced it. 71 00:03:54,301 --> 00:03:55,900 How long have you been in this house? 72 00:03:55,902 --> 00:03:57,535 I bought the house 5 years ago. 73 00:03:57,537 --> 00:04:00,105 So did you notice activity soon as you moved in? 74 00:04:00,107 --> 00:04:04,542 No. I only noticed it after August was born. 75 00:04:04,544 --> 00:04:06,011 Okay. Do me a favor. 76 00:04:06,013 --> 00:04:08,079 Give me an idea of what you guys are experiencing 77 00:04:08,081 --> 00:04:09,214 on a daily basis. 78 00:04:09,216 --> 00:04:11,617 Well, we feel like we're being watched. 79 00:04:11,619 --> 00:04:13,919 We hear voices. 80 00:04:13,921 --> 00:04:17,822 And objects will move on their own. 81 00:04:17,824 --> 00:04:20,158 We all see shadow figures 82 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:23,628 and we get physically touched. 83 00:04:23,630 --> 00:04:25,564 Now I know you said it's picking on your son. 84 00:04:25,566 --> 00:04:27,632 How exactly is it affecting August? 85 00:04:27,634 --> 00:04:31,436 He is constantly seeing a man with a mustache. 86 00:04:31,438 --> 00:04:34,839 This thing can transform itself to be almost anything, 87 00:04:34,841 --> 00:04:38,110 and he says that this entity punches him in the face, 88 00:04:38,112 --> 00:04:40,579 goes into his head. 89 00:04:40,581 --> 00:04:43,581 You sure this is not just him being a 3-year-old, 90 00:04:43,583 --> 00:04:44,883 acting out? 91 00:04:44,885 --> 00:04:47,585 He behaves in a way that I know is not my son. 92 00:04:47,587 --> 00:04:49,254 His eyes will get black. 93 00:04:49,256 --> 00:04:52,491 He will do something violent, like punch me, hit me, choke me. 94 00:04:52,493 --> 00:04:54,325 He becomes very disoriented. 95 00:04:54,327 --> 00:04:56,961 He'll have no memory of what just happened. 96 00:04:56,963 --> 00:05:00,331 I'm afraid he'll be traumatized for life. 97 00:05:00,333 --> 00:05:01,533 And how you dealing with all of it? 98 00:05:01,535 --> 00:05:04,469 It's my number one stressor in life, is this. 99 00:05:04,471 --> 00:05:07,205 Sometimes, I think it's... could make me crazy, 100 00:05:07,207 --> 00:05:10,075 but I'm going to stop at nothing 101 00:05:10,077 --> 00:05:12,611 to protect my son. - Okay. 102 00:05:16,015 --> 00:05:19,818 So when I was opening, I encountered 103 00:05:19,820 --> 00:05:21,753 a...a male, 104 00:05:21,755 --> 00:05:23,889 who's with me here right now. 105 00:05:25,425 --> 00:05:29,327 And he comes in and he's upset about the living. 106 00:05:29,329 --> 00:05:31,963 He's extremely calculating with the living. 107 00:05:31,965 --> 00:05:35,233 He likes games. 108 00:05:35,235 --> 00:05:36,635 They're also getting confused, 109 00:05:36,637 --> 00:05:39,771 feeling like they have early onset Alzheimer's. 110 00:05:39,773 --> 00:05:42,240 Something mentally is wrong with them, 111 00:05:42,242 --> 00:05:45,076 and that's him, that, you know ... their minds. 112 00:05:45,078 --> 00:05:49,247 What makes him happy is thinking about killing, 113 00:05:49,249 --> 00:05:51,516 and I got specifically family. 114 00:06:00,060 --> 00:06:02,060 Okay, Nicole, so what's going on in this room? 115 00:06:02,062 --> 00:06:03,595 When I'm downstairs here, 116 00:06:03,597 --> 00:06:06,064 it sounds like there are knocking noises 117 00:06:06,066 --> 00:06:07,732 coming from the basement. 118 00:06:10,070 --> 00:06:11,169 Could it be pipes knocking? 119 00:06:11,171 --> 00:06:12,603 No. 120 00:06:12,605 --> 00:06:14,739 This happened at a time when the heating system was not on, 121 00:06:14,741 --> 00:06:16,808 and neither was the central air. 122 00:06:16,810 --> 00:06:19,177 Okay. Have you experienced anything else? 123 00:06:19,179 --> 00:06:21,513 I see these shadowy figures going down the hallway 124 00:06:21,515 --> 00:06:23,948 all the time. 125 00:06:23,950 --> 00:06:25,484 What's that shadow figure look like to you? 126 00:06:25,486 --> 00:06:28,320 It's very misty. It's not solid. 127 00:06:28,322 --> 00:06:29,254 Sometimes it's one 128 00:06:29,256 --> 00:06:31,189 and sometimes it's, like, a cluster. 129 00:06:31,191 --> 00:06:33,424 Would you consider it to be of human shape? 130 00:06:33,426 --> 00:06:36,661 I can't make it out to be a human. 131 00:06:36,663 --> 00:06:38,062 Okay. Anything else down here? 132 00:06:38,064 --> 00:06:40,832 I have this collectible fire truck here. 133 00:06:40,834 --> 00:06:43,301 It will just fly off for no reason. 134 00:06:43,303 --> 00:06:45,570 Now I know you have cats. Could they have knocked it over? 135 00:06:45,572 --> 00:06:48,340 No. My cats don't even like to be in this room. 136 00:06:48,342 --> 00:06:49,841 Okay. 137 00:06:52,111 --> 00:06:55,780 I think the dude would hang out down here. 138 00:06:55,782 --> 00:06:58,449 He might get a little physical with people down here 139 00:06:58,451 --> 00:07:02,854 being down here, because this is his place. 140 00:07:02,856 --> 00:07:05,657 It's more of a feeling like he goes through your body, 141 00:07:05,659 --> 00:07:06,992 and you feel it. 142 00:07:06,994 --> 00:07:10,929 He's causing wicked hallucinations. 143 00:07:10,931 --> 00:07:15,333 He basically reads their minds and then projects out 144 00:07:15,335 --> 00:07:18,369 what they think of as a ghost, 145 00:07:18,371 --> 00:07:20,004 so he tries to freak them out, too. 146 00:07:20,006 --> 00:07:21,539 You know what I'm saying? 147 00:07:21,541 --> 00:07:23,675 "I can make them think they're hearing sounds down here. 148 00:07:23,677 --> 00:07:25,710 "I can make them think they're seeing 149 00:07:25,712 --> 00:07:27,379 this, that, or the other thing." 150 00:07:27,381 --> 00:07:28,947 Like, he goes, "I put it in their mind. 151 00:07:28,949 --> 00:07:30,649 They see what they want to see." 152 00:07:30,651 --> 00:07:31,883 What kind of threat do you think 153 00:07:31,885 --> 00:07:33,551 this guy might pose to the living? 154 00:07:33,553 --> 00:07:36,221 He's a...sexual predator. 155 00:07:36,223 --> 00:07:38,389 I think it's a possibility, and I hope not, 156 00:07:38,391 --> 00:07:39,591 that he's perving out on them 157 00:07:39,593 --> 00:07:42,560 while they're sleeping in their beds. 158 00:07:42,562 --> 00:07:45,030 They're feeling, like, uncomfortable in the bathroom, 159 00:07:45,032 --> 00:07:46,665 feeling sexually violated. 160 00:07:54,974 --> 00:07:56,641 So, Nicole, I assume this is your bedroom. 161 00:07:56,643 --> 00:07:58,776 - Yes. - So what's going on up here? 162 00:07:58,778 --> 00:08:00,278 The bathroom, you know, 163 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:02,847 I constantly feel like I'm being watched. 164 00:08:02,849 --> 00:08:06,484 I took a shower, and I just immediately felt this coldness 165 00:08:06,486 --> 00:08:08,253 and somebody behind me. 166 00:08:08,255 --> 00:08:11,789 It felt very creepy, almost as if the person felt entitled 167 00:08:11,791 --> 00:08:17,161 to be there, very perverted feeling. 168 00:08:17,163 --> 00:08:19,130 Anything else going on in this room? 169 00:08:19,132 --> 00:08:22,133 I was pushed on my hips a few times. 170 00:08:22,135 --> 00:08:25,069 Do you get the sense if it's a male or a female? 171 00:08:25,071 --> 00:08:29,340 I always imagined there was a masculine presence here. 172 00:08:29,342 --> 00:08:31,343 - Okay. - Hi, Mommy. 173 00:08:31,345 --> 00:08:33,878 Hi, Auggy. Come here. 174 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:36,347 - Hi. - One, two, three. 175 00:08:36,349 --> 00:08:38,482 Okay. Mommy was telling me about all the stuff 176 00:08:38,484 --> 00:08:39,651 that's going on in this place. 177 00:08:39,653 --> 00:08:41,619 You having a tough time here? 178 00:08:41,621 --> 00:08:45,923 Yeah. So Mommy says there's a man bothering you. 179 00:08:45,925 --> 00:08:47,792 Can you tell me what the man looks like? 180 00:08:57,104 --> 00:08:58,970 Tell them what he does. 181 00:08:58,972 --> 00:09:00,972 Well, he hits me. 182 00:09:00,974 --> 00:09:02,807 Yeah? Where does he hit you? 183 00:09:02,809 --> 00:09:04,108 In your head? 184 00:09:04,110 --> 00:09:05,977 We're gonna try to get rid of him. 185 00:09:05,979 --> 00:09:08,046 That sound good to you? 186 00:09:08,048 --> 00:09:09,413 I'm going to finish talking with Mommy. 187 00:09:09,415 --> 00:09:12,984 - Is that okay? - Yeah? 188 00:09:12,986 --> 00:09:14,519 - All right. - All right. 189 00:09:14,521 --> 00:09:16,288 Just be careful, okay? 190 00:09:19,259 --> 00:09:20,792 Aw, he's adorable. 191 00:09:20,794 --> 00:09:22,360 Thanks. 192 00:09:22,362 --> 00:09:26,264 I get really down on myself because I always wonder 193 00:09:26,266 --> 00:09:28,532 if I'm doing enough for my son. 194 00:09:28,534 --> 00:09:30,001 You just have to stay strong. 195 00:09:30,003 --> 00:09:31,936 There's sometimes no other choice. 196 00:09:31,938 --> 00:09:35,974 It's a very lonely daily existence. 197 00:09:35,976 --> 00:09:37,075 I gotta ask you, 198 00:09:37,077 --> 00:09:38,343 what are you hoping we can do for you? 199 00:09:38,345 --> 00:09:41,413 There's something attacking my son, 200 00:09:41,415 --> 00:09:43,481 and I would like for it to be fixed. 201 00:09:43,483 --> 00:09:45,850 He's my world. I have to protect him. 202 00:09:52,893 --> 00:09:54,960 What the... 203 00:09:54,962 --> 00:09:56,261 Did you touch me? 204 00:09:56,263 --> 00:09:57,896 - No. - No? 205 00:09:57,898 --> 00:10:00,164 Somebody is capable of touching. 206 00:10:00,166 --> 00:10:03,134 I think it might be the guy. 207 00:10:03,136 --> 00:10:04,569 What makes me nervous, though, 208 00:10:04,571 --> 00:10:09,607 is that he might be touching them inappropriately, sexually. 209 00:10:09,609 --> 00:10:12,176 He could be touching them, like, caressing their hair 210 00:10:12,178 --> 00:10:14,179 or their face or their feet. 211 00:10:14,181 --> 00:10:18,582 He likes it when they become emotional and upset and scared. 212 00:10:18,584 --> 00:10:21,886 He, like, breaks them down mentally, psychologically. 213 00:10:21,888 --> 00:10:24,455 It's really bad because it's all set 214 00:10:24,457 --> 00:10:27,058 on messing with the living people here. 215 00:10:48,548 --> 00:10:49,948 So, Patty, Nicole was telling me 216 00:10:49,950 --> 00:10:52,450 that you and your daughter moved in here recently. 217 00:10:52,452 --> 00:10:53,885 Yeah, 8 months ago. 218 00:10:53,887 --> 00:10:55,953 Nicole called us in because she thinks 219 00:10:55,955 --> 00:10:58,422 whatever is here is going after her little boy. 220 00:10:58,424 --> 00:11:00,158 I mean, you agree with that? 221 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:01,493 Yes. 222 00:11:01,495 --> 00:11:04,962 There is a male figure attacking at him. 223 00:11:04,964 --> 00:11:06,864 I have seen him very scared, 224 00:11:06,866 --> 00:11:09,300 and I don't know how to help him. 225 00:11:09,302 --> 00:11:13,905 I try to make him feel more safe. 226 00:11:13,907 --> 00:11:16,707 Why do you think whatever's here is picking on him? 227 00:11:16,709 --> 00:11:19,910 I think because he's young, um, 228 00:11:19,912 --> 00:11:22,247 and... 229 00:11:22,249 --> 00:11:26,117 he can be manipulated easier. 230 00:11:26,119 --> 00:11:28,052 As far as you living here, 231 00:11:28,054 --> 00:11:29,521 I mean, have you had experiences? 232 00:11:29,523 --> 00:11:33,324 I had something brush against me while I was in bed. 233 00:11:33,326 --> 00:11:34,926 Were you awake at the time, or did it wake you up? 234 00:11:34,928 --> 00:11:37,062 I was trying to go to sleep. 235 00:11:37,064 --> 00:11:38,730 Okay. Did that ever happen again? 236 00:11:38,732 --> 00:11:42,600 I had movement on my bed, and I turned the light on, 237 00:11:42,602 --> 00:11:44,069 and there was nothing there. 238 00:11:44,071 --> 00:11:46,037 Could it have been one of Nicole's cats? 239 00:11:46,039 --> 00:11:48,673 They do not go up in my room. 240 00:11:48,675 --> 00:11:51,209 Now do you think Nicole and August are in danger here? 241 00:11:51,211 --> 00:11:53,378 Yes. I have seen him very scared, 242 00:11:53,380 --> 00:11:55,679 and he's such a loving kid. 243 00:11:55,681 --> 00:11:58,616 So when you see him sad, you know, 244 00:11:58,618 --> 00:12:00,051 you just want to make it better for him. 245 00:12:03,857 --> 00:12:07,459 There is a nasty woman up here. 246 00:12:07,461 --> 00:12:09,427 She does not want us here. 247 00:12:09,429 --> 00:12:11,896 She wants us to vacate the premises. 248 00:12:11,898 --> 00:12:13,465 - Can you describe her? - Okay. 249 00:12:13,467 --> 00:12:16,935 She looking, like, stretched out right now. 250 00:12:22,241 --> 00:12:24,976 She's taking up, like, from here 251 00:12:24,978 --> 00:12:27,612 all the way to the other post. 252 00:12:27,614 --> 00:12:29,747 This is her area. 253 00:12:29,749 --> 00:12:31,649 Everything is wide. 254 00:12:31,651 --> 00:12:34,352 I think she's related to the angry guy. 255 00:12:34,354 --> 00:12:36,054 I think there's a lot of competition 256 00:12:36,056 --> 00:12:38,456 between this male and this female. 257 00:12:38,458 --> 00:12:42,393 I think they're, like, competing for attention, 258 00:12:42,395 --> 00:12:44,095 but they hate each other. 259 00:12:46,533 --> 00:12:48,866 What kind of experiences might the living have with her? 260 00:12:48,868 --> 00:12:51,869 She wants to be heard. She wants to be seen. 261 00:12:51,871 --> 00:12:56,474 So I think the living see her and hear her 262 00:12:56,476 --> 00:13:00,077 more than any other dead person here. 263 00:13:00,079 --> 00:13:03,414 She likes that. And she is pissed off. 264 00:13:03,416 --> 00:13:06,551 She is ranting and raving and going back and forth. 265 00:13:06,553 --> 00:13:10,355 Living people would hear a lot of pacing, 266 00:13:10,357 --> 00:13:12,690 noises, walking. 267 00:13:12,692 --> 00:13:15,426 I think she would, like, slam the doors, 268 00:13:15,428 --> 00:13:18,863 throw...around. 269 00:13:18,865 --> 00:13:24,101 Anything physical like that would be coming from her. 270 00:13:24,103 --> 00:13:28,907 She knows it scares them, and that can take a toll. 271 00:13:34,981 --> 00:13:36,514 So, Carl, I understand that 272 00:13:36,516 --> 00:13:37,982 you're really close friends with Nicole. 273 00:13:37,984 --> 00:13:41,052 Yes. I've known her... approximately 25 years. 274 00:13:41,054 --> 00:13:43,488 That being said, I'm sure you've spent time here at the house. 275 00:13:43,490 --> 00:13:44,855 Yes. 276 00:13:44,857 --> 00:13:47,325 She told me what's going on here, and it sounds insane. 277 00:13:47,327 --> 00:13:49,928 - Have you had any experiences? - Yes, I have. 278 00:13:49,930 --> 00:13:51,362 I was standing in the doorway to the kitchen, 279 00:13:51,364 --> 00:13:52,663 looking towards the laundry room, 280 00:13:52,665 --> 00:13:54,398 and I saw a black mist float out 281 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:58,269 from the laundry room into the kitchen area. 282 00:13:58,271 --> 00:14:00,070 Now was there any cooking going on in the kitchen? 283 00:14:00,072 --> 00:14:02,106 No, absolutely not. 284 00:14:02,108 --> 00:14:03,941 Had you ever seen anything like that again in the house? 285 00:14:03,943 --> 00:14:06,144 I have seen a weird stretched-out apparition 286 00:14:06,146 --> 00:14:07,946 in the piano room, but there was no face on it. 287 00:14:07,948 --> 00:14:10,381 From here down, it was, like, um, 288 00:14:10,383 --> 00:14:13,885 early 1900s dress, like, frilly. 289 00:14:13,887 --> 00:14:15,753 What was the size, you think? 290 00:14:15,755 --> 00:14:18,823 It was probably, stretched out, about 6 feet long. 291 00:14:18,825 --> 00:14:20,592 All right. So did anybody else see this thing? 292 00:14:20,594 --> 00:14:22,159 No. It had disappeared. 293 00:14:22,161 --> 00:14:23,728 All right. So you've seen a couple things. 294 00:14:23,730 --> 00:14:24,963 Anything else? 295 00:14:24,965 --> 00:14:27,298 The second floor hallway is an area where you always feel 296 00:14:27,300 --> 00:14:30,301 like you're being watched. And down here in the basement, 297 00:14:30,303 --> 00:14:34,105 I'm pretty much the only one who will come down here. 298 00:14:34,107 --> 00:14:36,173 You know, I gotta ask you. Do you know the kid really well? 299 00:14:36,175 --> 00:14:37,508 Yes. 300 00:14:37,510 --> 00:14:39,443 So Nicole thinks something here is going after August. 301 00:14:39,445 --> 00:14:41,845 - You agree? - Absolutely. 302 00:14:41,847 --> 00:14:43,747 You can see when he gets aggressive. 303 00:14:43,749 --> 00:14:46,017 So how do you know this is not just kid nonsense? 304 00:14:46,019 --> 00:14:47,852 I've worked with children for almost 30 years 305 00:14:47,854 --> 00:14:49,787 as a counselor and a teacher. 306 00:14:49,789 --> 00:14:51,723 This is something I haven't seen before. 307 00:14:51,725 --> 00:14:54,292 He's scared, scared for him, scared for Nicole. 308 00:14:58,164 --> 00:15:01,399 There's a weird shape-shifter guy up here. 309 00:15:01,401 --> 00:15:05,069 He did keep showing me, like, images of, like, a demon, 310 00:15:05,071 --> 00:15:08,139 him being a demon, 311 00:15:08,141 --> 00:15:12,877 and then it shifts, and I see this man there. 312 00:15:12,879 --> 00:15:15,346 He looks like an '80s metalhead guy 313 00:15:15,348 --> 00:15:17,482 but without a face, 314 00:15:17,484 --> 00:15:19,784 and like a kid. 315 00:15:19,786 --> 00:15:25,790 This is very much the focus of a lot of bad stuff. 316 00:15:25,792 --> 00:15:29,560 They're getting the brunt, the brunt of it. 317 00:15:29,562 --> 00:15:35,199 This is, like, the metalhead demon...guy's sole focus, 318 00:15:35,201 --> 00:15:36,634 is make them lose faith 319 00:15:36,636 --> 00:15:40,037 and turn them into a dark, evil person. 320 00:15:42,942 --> 00:15:45,943 He's whispering, "You want to kill everybody. 321 00:15:45,945 --> 00:15:48,846 Best if you kill your family." 322 00:15:48,848 --> 00:15:52,950 He's trying to either kill them 323 00:15:52,952 --> 00:15:56,321 or cause them to kill others. 324 00:16:08,318 --> 00:16:09,717 As soon as I get into town, 325 00:16:09,719 --> 00:16:12,920 the first call I make is to the local cops. 326 00:16:12,922 --> 00:16:15,056 They knew all about Nicole's property, 327 00:16:15,058 --> 00:16:17,191 and it turns out, there was a murder-suicide 328 00:16:17,193 --> 00:16:19,761 right outside her front door. 329 00:16:19,763 --> 00:16:22,096 I'm driving over to meet with a county sheriff who says 330 00:16:22,098 --> 00:16:25,066 it's one of the most senseless killings he's ever seen. 331 00:16:30,940 --> 00:16:32,640 Well, Sheriff Hanna, I appreciate 332 00:16:32,642 --> 00:16:34,375 you helping me out with this case. 333 00:16:34,377 --> 00:16:35,643 What can you tell me about the two guys 334 00:16:35,645 --> 00:16:37,245 involved in this murder-suicide? 335 00:16:37,247 --> 00:16:39,547 The two gentlemen lived next to the property 336 00:16:39,549 --> 00:16:40,815 that you're investigation. 337 00:16:40,817 --> 00:16:42,583 The two men were next-door neighbors. 338 00:16:42,585 --> 00:16:46,788 First individual was a man by the name of William Eck, 339 00:16:46,790 --> 00:16:48,122 49 years old. 340 00:16:48,124 --> 00:16:52,326 The other individual was August Meinberg, 341 00:16:52,328 --> 00:16:55,729 who was a German immigrant, 60 years of age. 342 00:16:55,731 --> 00:16:57,865 What started the bad blood between the two of them? 343 00:16:57,867 --> 00:17:01,736 Interestingly enough, it was over their lawns. 344 00:17:03,506 --> 00:17:05,640 You know, I'm laughing because I know that can get crazy. 345 00:17:05,642 --> 00:17:08,910 - What happened? - This started in 1949, 346 00:17:08,912 --> 00:17:12,046 where William Eck had left some trimmings, 347 00:17:12,048 --> 00:17:15,349 tree trimmings on Meinberg's property. 348 00:17:15,351 --> 00:17:18,352 Resulted in a verbal confrontation 349 00:17:18,354 --> 00:17:21,856 which escalated to a physical altercation, 350 00:17:21,858 --> 00:17:24,992 and Eck ended up choking Meinberg. 351 00:17:24,994 --> 00:17:28,695 A neighbor that witnessed this had interceded 352 00:17:28,697 --> 00:17:30,131 and broke up the fight. 353 00:17:30,133 --> 00:17:32,132 Well, obviously, this doesn't end well for either one of them. 354 00:17:32,134 --> 00:17:33,735 So what happened? 355 00:17:33,737 --> 00:17:35,903 Well, fast-forward 1 year. 356 00:17:35,905 --> 00:17:40,107 Once again, a verbal altercation started, 357 00:17:40,109 --> 00:17:43,444 so Meinberg then retreated into his home, 358 00:17:43,446 --> 00:17:48,015 emerged with a 12-gauge sawed-off shotgun, 359 00:17:48,017 --> 00:17:51,219 leveled it at William Eck's head, 360 00:17:51,221 --> 00:17:53,821 pulled the trigger, blew his head off. 361 00:17:53,823 --> 00:17:56,791 So does he commit suicide right there and then? 362 00:17:56,793 --> 00:18:01,896 He started waving the gun around and ranting, "Who's next?" 363 00:18:01,898 --> 00:18:06,567 A neighbor stepped in and tried to wrestle the shotgun from him, 364 00:18:06,569 --> 00:18:10,238 at which time, he turned the gun on himself, 365 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:12,640 pointed the shotgun at his chest, 366 00:18:12,642 --> 00:18:14,975 and immediately killed himself. 367 00:18:14,977 --> 00:18:17,144 Unbelievable. 368 00:18:17,146 --> 00:18:20,047 I mean, you weren't kidding when you said this was senseless. 369 00:18:22,185 --> 00:18:26,254 I'm seeing that metalhead demon guy again. 370 00:18:26,256 --> 00:18:29,557 I don't know if he lived here for a while and moved out, 371 00:18:29,559 --> 00:18:31,893 but he's a bad, bad person. 372 00:18:33,863 --> 00:18:36,797 And I get the year 1942 with him, 373 00:18:36,799 --> 00:18:38,065 so it's kind of weird that he's, like, 374 00:18:38,067 --> 00:18:41,768 portraying this '80s metalhead. 375 00:18:41,770 --> 00:18:46,340 Something happened that caused him to lose his faith 376 00:18:46,342 --> 00:18:51,145 and become an extremely dark individual. 377 00:18:51,147 --> 00:18:54,682 When he died, he focused on being 378 00:18:54,684 --> 00:18:58,920 as negative and as evil as possible. 379 00:18:58,922 --> 00:19:01,756 It's a possibility that he killed somebody 380 00:19:01,758 --> 00:19:03,958 during his lifetime. 381 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:05,692 Do you have any idea how he died? 382 00:19:05,694 --> 00:19:08,696 He's talking something about a suicide. 383 00:19:08,698 --> 00:19:10,331 I'm thinking maybe he killed himself. 384 00:19:13,669 --> 00:19:15,102 So I've got a mother worried sick 385 00:19:15,104 --> 00:19:16,503 for her 3-year-old son 386 00:19:16,505 --> 00:19:19,807 on a property next door to the site of a murder-suicide, 387 00:19:19,809 --> 00:19:21,576 but I want to see if there's anything else. 388 00:19:23,947 --> 00:19:27,114 Searching through old records, I find a fatal car accident 389 00:19:27,116 --> 00:19:29,450 that happened in 1997. 390 00:19:29,452 --> 00:19:33,454 Turns out one of the victims used to own Nicole's house. 391 00:19:33,456 --> 00:19:34,989 I'm headed over to meet a local author 392 00:19:34,991 --> 00:19:37,525 who says the accident devastated the family 393 00:19:37,527 --> 00:19:40,261 and eventually forced them to have to move off the property. 394 00:19:47,470 --> 00:19:49,570 Before we even get to the accident, what do you know 395 00:19:49,572 --> 00:19:51,138 about the family that this happened to? 396 00:19:51,140 --> 00:19:53,274 Well, Ronny and Karen Robok 397 00:19:53,276 --> 00:19:56,610 bought your client's property in 1975, 398 00:19:56,612 --> 00:19:58,679 and they moved in with their three daughters. 399 00:19:58,681 --> 00:20:00,181 What do we know about Ronny? 400 00:20:00,183 --> 00:20:02,817 He was a supervisor at a local supermarket. 401 00:20:02,819 --> 00:20:04,752 All right. So the day of the accident, what happened? 402 00:20:04,754 --> 00:20:07,922 It was May 20, 1997. 403 00:20:07,924 --> 00:20:11,859 Ronny was on his way to work, just a few miles from his house, 404 00:20:11,861 --> 00:20:16,964 and a tractor-trailer swerved into oncoming traffic 405 00:20:16,966 --> 00:20:18,832 and hit six cars. 406 00:20:18,834 --> 00:20:22,002 Ronny's truck was crushed. He died at the scene. 407 00:20:22,004 --> 00:20:24,839 Here is the death certificate. 408 00:20:24,841 --> 00:20:26,741 Okay, so they pronounced him right there. 409 00:20:26,743 --> 00:20:30,010 - Yes. - Was Ronny the only victim? 410 00:20:30,012 --> 00:20:32,580 Four people were hurt, but Ronny was the only one who died. 411 00:20:32,582 --> 00:20:34,648 So we got one DOA, four injured. 412 00:20:34,650 --> 00:20:35,916 What about the driver? 413 00:20:35,918 --> 00:20:37,118 Ever figure out what the hell happened? 414 00:20:37,120 --> 00:20:39,053 Benny Hilton was the driver. 415 00:20:39,055 --> 00:20:42,656 They found that he had been driving 19 straight hours, 416 00:20:42,658 --> 00:20:44,258 which is twice as long as he should've 417 00:20:44,260 --> 00:20:47,061 been driving without a break. - Okay. 418 00:20:47,063 --> 00:20:49,896 They also found cocaine in his system. 419 00:20:49,898 --> 00:20:51,465 Okay, so obviously, he was negligent. 420 00:20:51,467 --> 00:20:52,666 What happened? 421 00:20:52,668 --> 00:20:54,935 He was in prison for 5 years 422 00:20:54,937 --> 00:20:58,505 and ordered to pay $145,000 to the family. 423 00:20:58,507 --> 00:21:00,741 What happened with the family? They tried to stay in the home. 424 00:21:00,743 --> 00:21:03,610 It was just really too sad for them, 425 00:21:03,612 --> 00:21:06,414 and they ended up moving out in 2001. 426 00:21:08,951 --> 00:21:13,487 This metalhead demon guy can really mess with the living. 427 00:21:13,489 --> 00:21:17,358 He likes to create heart issues, stroke, convulsions. 428 00:21:17,360 --> 00:21:21,562 He also indicated an image of a car accident, 429 00:21:21,564 --> 00:21:24,565 and he called it his "big try." 430 00:21:24,567 --> 00:21:29,170 It made me think that he did try to cause 431 00:21:29,172 --> 00:21:32,707 or create a major car accident. 432 00:21:33,943 --> 00:21:38,145 I see two different scenarios. 433 00:21:38,147 --> 00:21:40,581 One was a male in a car. 434 00:21:40,583 --> 00:21:43,584 Then, I see a flash of a female. 435 00:21:43,586 --> 00:21:45,119 He expressed he liked doing 436 00:21:45,121 --> 00:21:48,589 because it could potentially kill them, 437 00:21:48,591 --> 00:21:51,725 or it could be a possibility that in the future, 438 00:21:51,727 --> 00:21:54,562 he's going to attempt this. 439 00:22:00,369 --> 00:22:02,403 For more information about the show, 440 00:22:02,405 --> 00:22:04,005 and if you need us to investigate 441 00:22:04,007 --> 00:22:05,873 unexplained activity in your home... 442 00:22:05,875 --> 00:22:09,342 Please visit travelchannel.com/thedeadfiles. 443 00:22:09,344 --> 00:22:10,677 Click on "Help me, Dead Files!" 444 00:22:10,679 --> 00:22:12,646 to submit your story, and we'll help if we can. 445 00:22:21,307 --> 00:22:23,574 You know, another thing caught my eye in research. 446 00:22:23,576 --> 00:22:26,343 A family called the Gromans owned my client's property 447 00:22:26,345 --> 00:22:27,978 for over 60 years, 448 00:22:27,980 --> 00:22:29,447 and they suffered a lot of death. 449 00:22:29,449 --> 00:22:31,281 I managed to track down a descendant 450 00:22:31,283 --> 00:22:33,984 who says when they weren't busy burying family members, 451 00:22:33,986 --> 00:22:36,120 they were busy fighting with one another. 452 00:22:42,027 --> 00:22:43,094 Well, Richard, thanks for meeting with me. 453 00:22:43,096 --> 00:22:44,327 I appreciate that. 454 00:22:44,329 --> 00:22:46,163 Your family owned my client's property 455 00:22:46,165 --> 00:22:48,699 for over 6 decades. When was that? 456 00:22:48,701 --> 00:22:51,202 The house was built in 1894 457 00:22:51,204 --> 00:22:54,572 by my great-great-uncle, Thomas Groman. 458 00:22:54,574 --> 00:22:56,307 And here is his picture. 459 00:22:56,309 --> 00:23:00,076 And he owned the property until 1908, 460 00:23:00,078 --> 00:23:04,081 when he sold it to his mother, Rebecca. 461 00:23:04,083 --> 00:23:05,549 So now Rebecca has got the property. 462 00:23:05,551 --> 00:23:06,750 How's that work out for her? 463 00:23:06,752 --> 00:23:09,252 She owns the property until 1912, 464 00:23:09,254 --> 00:23:13,257 but she gets kidney failure and heart disease and dies. 465 00:23:13,259 --> 00:23:15,092 Here is her death certificate. 466 00:23:15,094 --> 00:23:17,094 Okay, so she was only there for a couple years. 467 00:23:17,096 --> 00:23:18,929 Yes, for 4 years. 468 00:23:18,931 --> 00:23:23,333 The property is now transferred to Maybelle, 469 00:23:23,335 --> 00:23:25,102 and that was the daughter of Rebecca. 470 00:23:25,104 --> 00:23:29,306 She lives there with her husband for 5 years. 471 00:23:29,308 --> 00:23:31,108 So why only 5 years on the property? 472 00:23:31,110 --> 00:23:33,643 Maybelle is diagnosed with uterine cancer, 473 00:23:33,645 --> 00:23:35,445 and she dies in 1918. 474 00:23:35,447 --> 00:23:38,449 And here is her death certificate, 475 00:23:38,451 --> 00:23:40,851 and she's only 39 years old, which is very young. 476 00:23:40,853 --> 00:23:42,119 What a shame. 477 00:23:48,528 --> 00:23:52,929 I'm seeing the woman who's related to the angry guy again. 478 00:23:52,931 --> 00:23:54,731 Do you have much idea who she was in life? 479 00:23:54,733 --> 00:23:58,001 I think that she lived here. 480 00:24:00,539 --> 00:24:01,806 Any idea when? 481 00:24:01,808 --> 00:24:04,141 Like 1915, and in that time, 482 00:24:04,143 --> 00:24:06,744 she was looking to be in her 40s or 50s. 483 00:24:09,481 --> 00:24:12,683 And she's white and she's got brown eyes. 484 00:24:16,222 --> 00:24:19,289 Any idea how she's related to this angry guy? 485 00:24:19,291 --> 00:24:21,926 I don't know. I don't know, but they...hate each other. 486 00:24:24,163 --> 00:24:26,931 Okay, so now Maybelle's dead. What happens to the property? 487 00:24:26,933 --> 00:24:29,166 Eventually, it ends up in the hands 488 00:24:29,168 --> 00:24:30,901 of Maybelle's nephew, George. 489 00:24:30,903 --> 00:24:32,135 What do you know about this guy? 490 00:24:32,137 --> 00:24:35,105 George was the black sheep of the family. 491 00:24:35,107 --> 00:24:36,740 Okay, so black sheep of the family. 492 00:24:36,742 --> 00:24:37,908 What's the story with that? 493 00:24:37,910 --> 00:24:41,144 One of the sort of famous stories was 494 00:24:41,146 --> 00:24:42,980 he eloped and got married in 1907 495 00:24:42,982 --> 00:24:44,381 to a woman by the name of Hannah. 496 00:24:44,383 --> 00:24:47,084 Within a year, he was walking down the street 497 00:24:47,086 --> 00:24:49,954 with two girls on his arm, and his wife caught him... 498 00:24:49,956 --> 00:24:52,890 and he bolted into the nearest hotel 499 00:24:52,892 --> 00:24:54,325 to try to hide. 500 00:24:54,327 --> 00:24:55,860 This was such a crazy story, 501 00:24:55,862 --> 00:24:58,395 it made the newspapers here in town. 502 00:24:58,397 --> 00:25:00,798 And here is a copy of the newspapers -- 503 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,667 "Chased Her Husband And Girl Companions." 504 00:25:05,671 --> 00:25:07,037 I don't mean to laugh at your family... 505 00:25:07,039 --> 00:25:08,338 - Yeah. - ...but this is pretty funny. 506 00:25:08,340 --> 00:25:09,673 Well, I... It's funny. 507 00:25:09,675 --> 00:25:11,408 So does George wind up getting divorced? 508 00:25:11,410 --> 00:25:13,043 - What happens? - No. 509 00:25:13,045 --> 00:25:15,379 He and Hannah stay married, 510 00:25:15,381 --> 00:25:17,748 but he does move back into the property 511 00:25:17,750 --> 00:25:21,685 you're investigating that his parents were living in. 512 00:25:21,687 --> 00:25:23,954 Does he stop there and just straighten out? 513 00:25:23,956 --> 00:25:26,356 No, he doesn't. George was an alcoholic. 514 00:25:26,358 --> 00:25:32,329 In 1930, he was passed out in his car on the railroad tracks, 515 00:25:32,331 --> 00:25:33,831 and the train was coming. 516 00:25:33,833 --> 00:25:35,065 Luckily, there were cops nearby. 517 00:25:35,067 --> 00:25:37,134 They pulled him out of the car, 518 00:25:37,136 --> 00:25:39,303 so he didn't get hit by the train, 519 00:25:39,305 --> 00:25:41,471 and he was arrested. 520 00:25:41,473 --> 00:25:45,175 Five years later, he was in a serious car accident. 521 00:25:45,177 --> 00:25:48,479 Drunk again, he wrapped the car around a pole. 522 00:25:48,481 --> 00:25:49,779 What ever happens to him? 523 00:25:49,781 --> 00:25:51,848 He eventually dies in 1952. 524 00:25:51,850 --> 00:25:54,851 He's 64 years old. He's still living in the house. 525 00:25:54,853 --> 00:25:58,055 And here is his death certificate. 526 00:25:58,057 --> 00:26:00,157 He died of rectal cancer. 527 00:26:03,495 --> 00:26:06,730 So we just have this angry guy. 528 00:26:06,732 --> 00:26:13,637 I couldn't gather if it was his home, a business, or both. 529 00:26:13,639 --> 00:26:15,939 It's even hard to know what he did for a living. 530 00:26:15,941 --> 00:26:18,409 He lived here for awhile and moved out 531 00:26:18,411 --> 00:26:20,010 and had come back. 532 00:26:22,748 --> 00:26:27,751 I think the dude would hang out down here. 533 00:26:27,753 --> 00:26:31,321 He used to come down here to escape his family. 534 00:26:31,323 --> 00:26:33,323 So what's going on with him and his family? 535 00:26:33,325 --> 00:26:37,227 He felt like they were a burden, took time away from 536 00:26:37,229 --> 00:26:40,464 what he really wanted to be thinking about or doing. 537 00:26:40,466 --> 00:26:44,735 "You can't be down here. This is my space. 538 00:26:44,737 --> 00:26:46,536 You need to leave." 539 00:26:46,538 --> 00:26:50,774 I think he just hated all people and just wanted to be alone 540 00:26:50,776 --> 00:26:53,010 so he could just do his thing. 541 00:26:53,012 --> 00:26:57,715 It's just much harder for him to live with people. 542 00:26:57,717 --> 00:27:01,085 He did fantasize about -- about -- about killing 543 00:27:01,087 --> 00:27:04,354 and -- and torture. 544 00:27:04,356 --> 00:27:08,058 I'm hoping that this was just his fantasy world. 545 00:27:08,060 --> 00:27:09,726 And that lady I saw, 546 00:27:09,728 --> 00:27:13,998 I don't think she was... like, psycho in that way. 547 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,533 Maybe that's why she hated him so much 548 00:27:16,535 --> 00:27:18,135 'cause he's, like, a monster. 549 00:27:26,212 --> 00:27:28,946 I saw several disturbing things during my walk, 550 00:27:28,948 --> 00:27:30,614 but two stood out. 551 00:27:30,616 --> 00:27:33,483 First, the angry woman at the top of the stairs. 552 00:27:33,485 --> 00:27:37,287 She was very petite, pale skin. 553 00:27:37,289 --> 00:27:39,756 She had high cheekbones. 554 00:27:39,758 --> 00:27:42,459 She stretched her entire face. 555 00:27:42,461 --> 00:27:44,961 Next, I described the metalhead demon guy 556 00:27:44,963 --> 00:27:47,030 tormenting a living person. 557 00:27:47,032 --> 00:27:50,901 I was in a bedroom, and there was a dead male 558 00:27:50,903 --> 00:27:53,704 kneeling to the side 559 00:27:53,706 --> 00:27:56,140 of the individual in the bed. 560 00:27:58,310 --> 00:28:01,578 And he had long, heavy metal-looking hair. 561 00:28:08,254 --> 00:28:11,121 Amy, is that what you saw? 562 00:28:11,123 --> 00:28:12,923 Yes, that's what I saw. 563 00:28:33,279 --> 00:28:36,146 Now that Amy and I have completed our investigations, 564 00:28:36,148 --> 00:28:38,281 we're ready to reveal our findings to each other 565 00:28:38,283 --> 00:28:40,617 and our clients for the first time. 566 00:28:40,619 --> 00:28:42,586 Well, Amy, I'd like you to meet Nicole. 567 00:28:42,588 --> 00:28:44,754 She lives here with her 3-year-old son, August. 568 00:28:44,756 --> 00:28:46,123 That's him right here. 569 00:28:46,125 --> 00:28:47,891 She also has a couple of roommates, 570 00:28:47,893 --> 00:28:49,560 but activity here is so bad, 571 00:28:49,562 --> 00:28:51,595 they're planning on not sticking around. 572 00:28:51,597 --> 00:28:53,497 This is her long-time friend Carl, 573 00:28:53,499 --> 00:28:56,966 and he's also had a ton of experiences here, 574 00:28:56,968 --> 00:28:59,169 but both of them are convinced that whatever's here 575 00:28:59,171 --> 00:29:01,738 in this house is going after August. 576 00:29:01,740 --> 00:29:02,840 They feel if we can't help them, 577 00:29:02,842 --> 00:29:04,474 that he's gonna be scarred for life. 578 00:29:04,476 --> 00:29:06,843 So now that Amy knows a little bit about you guys, 579 00:29:06,845 --> 00:29:09,646 I'll ask her to describe her walk for us. 580 00:29:12,317 --> 00:29:15,452 So I encountered this deceased woman upstairs. 581 00:29:15,454 --> 00:29:18,322 It was obvious that she didn't want me here, 582 00:29:18,324 --> 00:29:20,857 and I was not welcome. 583 00:29:20,859 --> 00:29:24,861 She does really like scaring the living here, 584 00:29:24,863 --> 00:29:28,532 even though she knows that it's causing people here 585 00:29:28,534 --> 00:29:31,568 psychological trauma. 586 00:29:31,570 --> 00:29:34,605 She doesn't really care because she is so desperate 587 00:29:34,607 --> 00:29:36,372 for any kind of attention. 588 00:29:36,374 --> 00:29:39,009 And one of the things she'll do 589 00:29:39,011 --> 00:29:41,011 if she gets bored or frustrated 590 00:29:41,013 --> 00:29:43,447 is she'll throw tantrums. 591 00:29:43,449 --> 00:29:46,350 When she has these tantrums and she's stomping around, 592 00:29:46,352 --> 00:29:49,653 you might hear, like, stomping sounds. 593 00:29:49,655 --> 00:29:50,887 Wow. 594 00:29:50,889 --> 00:29:54,123 There is a pounding on the floor, 595 00:29:54,125 --> 00:29:56,894 almost like somebody is holding a broom handle 596 00:29:56,896 --> 00:30:00,163 and pounding against the basement floor. 597 00:30:00,165 --> 00:30:01,331 Interesting. 598 00:30:01,333 --> 00:30:04,401 She may try to actually be seen. 599 00:30:04,403 --> 00:30:08,338 One of the things that she can do is actually throw things. 600 00:30:08,340 --> 00:30:10,907 Nicole, tell her about the fire truck. 601 00:30:10,909 --> 00:30:13,176 There is a fire truck near the mantel, 602 00:30:13,178 --> 00:30:16,846 and it'll fly off about 3 feet. 603 00:30:16,848 --> 00:30:19,216 You said it's possible they might be able to see this woman. 604 00:30:19,218 --> 00:30:22,185 Any idea what it would look like to them? 605 00:30:22,187 --> 00:30:24,488 Yeah, so her whole face and body was, like, 606 00:30:24,490 --> 00:30:26,356 stretched out like that, 607 00:30:26,358 --> 00:30:29,926 indicating to me, like, "This is my territory." 608 00:30:29,928 --> 00:30:33,030 I had a sketch done of what I saw. 609 00:30:42,241 --> 00:30:43,407 That's interesting. 610 00:30:51,683 --> 00:30:54,117 My. 611 00:30:56,488 --> 00:30:59,756 I've seen an apparition stretched, too, at the top, 612 00:30:59,758 --> 00:31:03,327 but appeared to be a woman from about here on up. 613 00:31:03,329 --> 00:31:04,827 Interesting. 614 00:31:04,829 --> 00:31:08,264 About -- We figured about 6 feet long, about a foot wide. 615 00:31:08,266 --> 00:31:10,701 So did you get any idea of who this woman could've been? 616 00:31:10,703 --> 00:31:13,170 I had a hard time with that, 617 00:31:13,172 --> 00:31:14,904 but a couple of things stood out. 618 00:31:14,906 --> 00:31:17,774 She was white, brown eyes, brown hair. 619 00:31:17,776 --> 00:31:19,443 Probably in her 40s. 620 00:31:19,445 --> 00:31:20,910 She kind of came from 621 00:31:20,912 --> 00:31:24,080 a really kind of dysfunctional, crazy family, 622 00:31:24,082 --> 00:31:28,985 and that she lived here at some point between 1915 and 1925. 623 00:31:28,987 --> 00:31:31,755 That's not a ton to go on, but based on the time period, 624 00:31:31,757 --> 00:31:33,656 I've got an idea of who it might've been. 625 00:31:33,658 --> 00:31:35,926 From 1912 to 1918, this place was owned 626 00:31:35,928 --> 00:31:38,061 by a woman named Maybelle Groman. 627 00:31:38,063 --> 00:31:39,263 Her relatives are actually the ones 628 00:31:39,265 --> 00:31:41,498 that built this house in 1894. 629 00:31:41,500 --> 00:31:43,100 Five years after she got this place, 630 00:31:43,102 --> 00:31:45,335 she was diagnosed with uterine cancer, 631 00:31:45,337 --> 00:31:48,871 and she died from the disease a few months later. 632 00:31:48,873 --> 00:31:50,874 Here's her death certificate. 633 00:31:50,876 --> 00:31:52,309 You got it pretty spot on, on the age, 634 00:31:52,311 --> 00:31:53,877 'cause look how old she was when she died. 635 00:31:53,879 --> 00:31:56,113 She was 39. 636 00:31:56,115 --> 00:31:58,014 That's awful. 637 00:31:58,016 --> 00:31:59,616 Is it possible it's Maybelle Groman 638 00:31:59,618 --> 00:32:00,850 that you might've seen? 639 00:32:00,852 --> 00:32:05,222 Time-wise, age-wise, interesting. Yeah. 640 00:32:09,295 --> 00:32:12,029 The next person that I ran into 641 00:32:12,031 --> 00:32:15,599 was a deceased male who is related to her. 642 00:32:15,601 --> 00:32:17,034 This male used to live here, 643 00:32:17,036 --> 00:32:22,706 but I got that he was from a much more recent time period, 644 00:32:22,708 --> 00:32:24,240 maybe the '60s. 645 00:32:24,242 --> 00:32:27,744 It seemed like he had moved out and then had moved back in. 646 00:32:27,746 --> 00:32:30,347 I couldn't initially tell how he was related, 647 00:32:30,349 --> 00:32:35,585 but the thing with this guy is that he was very unstable 648 00:32:35,587 --> 00:32:37,587 while he was alive, 649 00:32:37,589 --> 00:32:42,926 and he really despised his family, 650 00:32:42,928 --> 00:32:47,297 and I saw him fantasizing about murdering them. 651 00:32:47,299 --> 00:32:52,368 He did fantasize about killing and -- and torture. 652 00:32:52,370 --> 00:32:55,405 I'm hoping that this was just his fantasy world. 653 00:32:55,407 --> 00:32:58,074 Maybe that's why she hated him so much 654 00:32:58,076 --> 00:33:00,343 'cause he's, like, a monster. 655 00:33:00,345 --> 00:33:03,413 I saw him mostly hanging out in the basement. 656 00:33:03,415 --> 00:33:05,548 That's where he likes to be, 657 00:33:05,550 --> 00:33:08,819 because he can be alone, away from everybody. 658 00:33:08,821 --> 00:33:13,423 The guy sounds a lot like Maybelle Groman's nephew George. 659 00:33:13,425 --> 00:33:15,992 Now after Maybelle died, this property eventually went to him. 660 00:33:15,994 --> 00:33:18,361 But the guy you saw, George, lived here a couple of times, 661 00:33:18,363 --> 00:33:19,896 first in the early 1900s, 662 00:33:19,898 --> 00:33:21,764 and then again about 15 years later. 663 00:33:21,766 --> 00:33:24,067 Now I talked to one of Groman's descendants. 664 00:33:24,069 --> 00:33:25,969 He told me George was the black sheep of the family 665 00:33:25,971 --> 00:33:28,438 and he embarrassed them his entire life. 666 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,307 In 1907, he eloped with his wife, Hannah. 667 00:33:31,309 --> 00:33:33,710 A year later, he was caught in broad daylight 668 00:33:33,712 --> 00:33:35,846 cheating on her with two women. 669 00:33:35,848 --> 00:33:37,580 After this, the two of them separated, 670 00:33:37,582 --> 00:33:40,517 and he ended up moving back into the house with his parents. 671 00:33:40,519 --> 00:33:43,253 So the descendant I spoke to said that 672 00:33:43,255 --> 00:33:44,987 the family allowed him to move back in here 673 00:33:44,989 --> 00:33:48,458 so they could keep an eye on him and maybe try to control him, 674 00:33:48,460 --> 00:33:50,059 but that didn't work out. 675 00:33:50,061 --> 00:33:51,461 1930, he got drunk, 676 00:33:51,463 --> 00:33:54,064 passed out in his car on the railroad tracks. 677 00:33:54,066 --> 00:33:55,198 Dear. 678 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:56,867 And the cops saw it and saved him. 679 00:33:56,869 --> 00:33:59,469 They actually pulled him out... 680 00:33:59,471 --> 00:34:01,071 Five years later, he actually totaled his car 681 00:34:01,073 --> 00:34:03,173 while driving drunk, and he got seriously injured. 682 00:34:03,175 --> 00:34:06,142 Now, George ended up dying in 1952 of rectal cancer, 683 00:34:06,144 --> 00:34:09,278 and he was 64 years old at the time of his death. 684 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:12,149 Now, is it possible the guy you saw is George Groman? 685 00:34:12,151 --> 00:34:13,884 Sounds like this one could be him. 686 00:34:13,886 --> 00:34:15,018 Yeah. Yeah. 687 00:34:15,020 --> 00:34:16,753 Now does he do anything to the living here? 688 00:34:16,755 --> 00:34:20,390 Yeah. He is capable of getting physical, so he can caress. 689 00:34:20,392 --> 00:34:23,226 He can get violent and possibly hit. 690 00:34:23,228 --> 00:34:24,895 Tell Amy about when you got touched on the hip. 691 00:34:24,897 --> 00:34:26,329 Yes. 692 00:34:26,331 --> 00:34:29,966 I've been pushed on the hips, various rooms of the house. 693 00:34:29,968 --> 00:34:31,834 One of the things that he did to me 694 00:34:31,836 --> 00:34:35,037 was up at the top of the stairs, caressing my back, 695 00:34:35,039 --> 00:34:36,873 and then it was playing with my hair, 696 00:34:36,875 --> 00:34:39,776 but, like, in a... creepy... 697 00:34:39,778 --> 00:34:41,511 - Yeah. - You know what I'm saying? 698 00:34:41,513 --> 00:34:45,181 Like, I saw him watching living people in the shower. 699 00:34:45,183 --> 00:34:49,252 I saw him wanting to be inappropriate with the living. 700 00:34:49,254 --> 00:34:51,320 You felt like you were being watched in the shower. 701 00:34:51,322 --> 00:34:55,591 Yes. Yeah, bathroom is a hot spot for sure. 702 00:34:55,593 --> 00:34:58,328 What I'm really concerned about is how he likes 703 00:34:58,330 --> 00:35:00,597 to mess with your mind. 704 00:35:00,599 --> 00:35:04,868 He likes it when they become emotional and upset and scared. 705 00:35:04,870 --> 00:35:08,204 He, like, breaks them down mentally, psychologically. 706 00:35:08,206 --> 00:35:11,207 It's really bad because it's all set 707 00:35:11,209 --> 00:35:14,077 on messing with the living people here. 708 00:35:14,079 --> 00:35:15,645 The other thing with this guy 709 00:35:15,647 --> 00:35:19,749 is that he can create and cause hallucinations. 710 00:35:19,751 --> 00:35:22,018 He said that he can go into your mind 711 00:35:22,020 --> 00:35:24,821 and project back to you what you're afraid of. 712 00:35:24,823 --> 00:35:29,091 My son sees a man constantly. 713 00:35:29,093 --> 00:35:31,828 He describes him as... 714 00:35:31,830 --> 00:35:35,231 red with a mustache. 715 00:35:35,233 --> 00:35:38,034 Now, Amy, you said he can project what you're afraid of. 716 00:35:38,036 --> 00:35:40,036 Both of them have seen shadow figures. 717 00:35:40,038 --> 00:35:42,105 Last night, I literally saw somebody 718 00:35:42,107 --> 00:35:43,806 running through my dining room. 719 00:35:43,808 --> 00:35:47,310 I saw black mist creeping in from the laundry room, 720 00:35:47,312 --> 00:35:48,578 along the ceiling. 721 00:35:48,580 --> 00:35:50,847 It's bad. 722 00:35:55,720 --> 00:35:56,953 Okay, anything else? 723 00:35:56,955 --> 00:36:00,189 This next person that I met was a deceased male. 724 00:36:00,191 --> 00:36:03,393 First encountered him, I thought he was a demon. 725 00:36:03,395 --> 00:36:06,596 But it's not. It's a dead male. 726 00:36:06,598 --> 00:36:09,799 He presented his human form to me, 727 00:36:09,801 --> 00:36:14,437 and it looked like an '80s heavy metal rocker. 728 00:36:14,439 --> 00:36:18,174 He's obsessed with harming living people. 729 00:36:18,176 --> 00:36:21,877 He's been trying to do this for a very long time. 730 00:36:21,879 --> 00:36:24,080 One of the things he was focused on 731 00:36:24,082 --> 00:36:27,683 was him talking about his "big try." 732 00:36:27,685 --> 00:36:31,287 He was showing me a massive car accident. 733 00:36:31,289 --> 00:36:33,557 He was leading me to believe that this is something 734 00:36:33,559 --> 00:36:35,391 that had occurred in the past, 735 00:36:35,393 --> 00:36:39,695 and something that he may work on doing in the future as well. 736 00:36:39,697 --> 00:36:42,031 One of the people who owned this house at one point 737 00:36:42,033 --> 00:36:44,634 died in a very horrible car accident. 738 00:36:44,636 --> 00:36:48,504 So from 1975 to 2001, this house was owned by the Robok family. 739 00:36:48,506 --> 00:36:53,109 In May of 1997, Ronny Robok left for work, and then on the way, 740 00:36:53,111 --> 00:36:55,178 a semi-truck drifted into oncoming traffic 741 00:36:55,180 --> 00:36:58,381 and hit this poor guy, killing him instantly. 742 00:36:58,383 --> 00:37:01,183 Got his death certificate here. 743 00:37:01,185 --> 00:37:02,752 Okay, so is it possible the metalhead 744 00:37:02,754 --> 00:37:04,187 had something to do with this crash? 745 00:37:04,189 --> 00:37:06,723 I think it's a big possibility. 746 00:37:06,725 --> 00:37:09,725 Yes. 747 00:37:09,727 --> 00:37:12,729 So is this guy capable of doing that to these guys? 748 00:37:12,731 --> 00:37:14,364 Yes. 749 00:37:14,366 --> 00:37:16,533 I'm worried because I got that he's focused 750 00:37:16,535 --> 00:37:18,334 on a young person here. 751 00:37:18,336 --> 00:37:20,403 He likes to mess with this person while they're sleeping, 752 00:37:20,405 --> 00:37:21,537 and this is what he does. 753 00:37:21,539 --> 00:37:23,272 He plants negative thoughts 754 00:37:23,274 --> 00:37:25,342 to make the living person do his bidding. 755 00:37:25,344 --> 00:37:27,811 So I had a sketch done of what I saw happening 756 00:37:27,813 --> 00:37:29,446 with this dead man. 757 00:37:38,924 --> 00:37:40,123 It's kind of creepy. 758 00:37:45,496 --> 00:37:46,896 Wow. 759 00:37:49,801 --> 00:37:52,501 Yeah, my son... Jeez. 760 00:37:52,503 --> 00:37:55,438 Yeah, my son did say he had a lot of hair, 761 00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:58,041 and that he can make himself into anything. 762 00:38:00,845 --> 00:38:04,847 You felt like August was taken over a few times. 763 00:38:04,849 --> 00:38:08,651 Yes. My son came running and really super scared, 764 00:38:08,653 --> 00:38:12,188 and all of a sudden, he didn't have fear anymore. 765 00:38:12,190 --> 00:38:13,789 He just stood up, came over to me, 766 00:38:13,791 --> 00:38:15,925 and slapped me in the face... 767 00:38:15,927 --> 00:38:17,259 Yeah. 768 00:38:17,261 --> 00:38:19,729 ...and then became extremely disoriented afterwards 769 00:38:19,731 --> 00:38:22,498 and was calling my name, and I know that wasn't him. 770 00:38:22,500 --> 00:38:23,733 Yeah. It wasn't him. 771 00:38:23,735 --> 00:38:26,069 Now could he have put the idea in Auggy? 772 00:38:26,071 --> 00:38:27,937 Yes. Yeah, absolutely. 773 00:38:27,939 --> 00:38:29,305 He would've been, you know, 774 00:38:29,307 --> 00:38:32,308 possessed by this freaking maniac to do it. 775 00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:37,880 The thing that scares me about him is that he wants death. 776 00:38:37,882 --> 00:38:40,817 He wants this person to kill people. 777 00:38:42,287 --> 00:38:44,320 Wow. 778 00:38:44,322 --> 00:38:47,724 Honestly, can't believe that this could be happening. 779 00:38:47,726 --> 00:38:50,293 Like, why my son? Like, why? 780 00:38:50,295 --> 00:38:55,498 This person just wants death, mayhem, and murder. 781 00:38:55,500 --> 00:38:57,500 Any means necessary. 782 00:38:57,502 --> 00:39:01,371 It is on par with demons. 783 00:39:03,241 --> 00:39:05,074 Are you serious? 784 00:39:17,255 --> 00:39:18,455 So, Nicole, you called us in 785 00:39:18,457 --> 00:39:21,090 because you were worried about your son August, 786 00:39:21,092 --> 00:39:22,459 and it's a good thing you did 787 00:39:22,461 --> 00:39:24,260 because based on what Amy's told us, 788 00:39:24,262 --> 00:39:28,597 the problem was a lot worse than you realized. 789 00:39:28,599 --> 00:39:30,200 But now it's time to answer the big question. 790 00:39:30,202 --> 00:39:33,570 Can you raise your son here safely, 791 00:39:33,572 --> 00:39:35,671 or do you need to get the hell out? 792 00:39:35,673 --> 00:39:37,540 For that answer, I'm gonna turn it over to Amy. 793 00:39:40,211 --> 00:39:45,314 A lot of things need to happen simultaneously. 794 00:39:45,316 --> 00:39:50,053 The first thing is your son needs a full-blown exorcism. 795 00:39:50,055 --> 00:39:53,122 - An exorcism? - Yes. 796 00:39:53,124 --> 00:39:55,592 Now this doesn't necessarily have to be done 797 00:39:55,594 --> 00:39:57,994 by a Catholic priest, 798 00:39:57,996 --> 00:40:01,064 but an exorcism has to be performed 799 00:40:01,066 --> 00:40:06,469 because he has been utilized by this metalhead guy 800 00:40:06,471 --> 00:40:08,505 for a very long time, 801 00:40:08,507 --> 00:40:12,642 and we need him completely 100% 802 00:40:12,644 --> 00:40:14,510 out of your son. 803 00:40:16,914 --> 00:40:21,083 At the same time, a psychic and a medium will be showing up, 804 00:40:21,085 --> 00:40:23,453 and they are going to remove 805 00:40:23,455 --> 00:40:27,590 the three deceased individuals from this home. 806 00:40:27,592 --> 00:40:31,927 Now at the same time, you're going to be being dealt with 807 00:40:31,929 --> 00:40:33,596 by a reiki master, 808 00:40:33,598 --> 00:40:36,732 who's going to remove any and all cords from you 809 00:40:36,734 --> 00:40:39,335 that these dead people have attached. 810 00:40:39,337 --> 00:40:41,203 This must all happen at the same time. 811 00:40:41,205 --> 00:40:43,072 It has to be without a hitch. 812 00:40:43,074 --> 00:40:45,809 It has to be going on simultaneously, 813 00:40:45,811 --> 00:40:49,545 so this is going to be one heck of a day. 814 00:40:49,547 --> 00:40:50,880 Okay. 815 00:40:50,882 --> 00:40:52,415 And what would happen if she picked up and moved? 816 00:40:52,417 --> 00:40:57,386 Even if you were to leave, they would go with you. 817 00:40:57,388 --> 00:41:01,291 I know it's a lot, but are you gonna take Amy's advice? 818 00:41:01,293 --> 00:41:02,625 Yes, absolutely. 819 00:41:02,627 --> 00:41:05,227 Without a shadow of a doubt, I will. 820 00:41:05,229 --> 00:41:06,896 It's my job as a mother. 821 00:41:06,898 --> 00:41:10,700 I have to do anything I can for him. 822 00:41:10,702 --> 00:41:13,269 I don't know how much Carl can help, but what can he do? 823 00:41:13,271 --> 00:41:16,039 Just being supportive and helping as much as possible. 824 00:41:16,041 --> 00:41:17,573 Okay, will do. 825 00:41:17,575 --> 00:41:19,742 We have to get this fixed. 826 00:41:19,744 --> 00:41:22,078 I value, you know, what you say. 827 00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:23,379 I would've gone crazy. 828 00:41:23,381 --> 00:41:26,983 I mean, I really appreciate this, so thank you. 829 00:41:29,487 --> 00:41:31,187 I wish it were easier, 830 00:41:31,189 --> 00:41:32,588 but if Nicole is going to overcome 831 00:41:32,590 --> 00:41:34,857 what's happening to her and August, 832 00:41:34,859 --> 00:41:37,927 she needs to simultaneously perform the exorcism 833 00:41:37,929 --> 00:41:41,463 while the medium, psychic, and reiki master remove the dead 834 00:41:41,465 --> 00:41:43,666 and sever their attachments to the living. 835 00:41:43,668 --> 00:41:47,670 Only then will she and her son get the peace they deserve. 836 00:41:47,720 --> 00:41:52,270 Repair and Synchronization by Easy Subtitles Synchronizer 1.0.0.0 65040

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