Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated:
1
00:00:10,411 --> 00:00:11,543
It's bad.
2
00:00:11,545 --> 00:00:13,545
He can physically harm people.
3
00:00:14,815 --> 00:00:16,048
I think
it wants to hurt me.
4
00:00:16,050 --> 00:00:19,051
I have been scratched
on my arms recently.
5
00:00:21,121 --> 00:00:22,621
He caused many deaths.
6
00:00:22,623 --> 00:00:25,991
I think it wants to kill
whoever's just living here.
7
00:00:27,128 --> 00:00:29,762
Do you think this thing
killed Wayla's father?
8
00:00:31,365 --> 00:00:32,965
And he's laughing.
9
00:00:32,967 --> 00:00:35,801
And he's saying, "Ha-ha-ha.
Kind of sucks, doesn't it?"
10
00:00:37,772 --> 00:00:39,905
Panic, panic, panic.
11
00:00:39,907 --> 00:00:42,607
My name is Amy Allen.
12
00:00:42,609 --> 00:00:44,476
I'm seeing, like, blood.
13
00:00:44,478 --> 00:00:46,311
The house just feels bad.
14
00:00:46,313 --> 00:00:49,047
I see dead people.
15
00:00:49,049 --> 00:00:53,519
This man is completely insane.
16
00:00:53,521 --> 00:00:55,287
I speak to dead people...
17
00:00:56,490 --> 00:00:58,791
Okay she doesn't
like it in there.
18
00:00:58,793 --> 00:01:00,692
...and they speak to me.
19
00:01:00,694 --> 00:01:02,694
He likes to
twist that knife.
20
00:01:02,696 --> 00:01:06,231
But there's only one way to
know if my findings are real.
21
00:01:06,233 --> 00:01:09,901
Something paranormal
is trying to kill them.
22
00:01:09,903 --> 00:01:11,403
I rely on my partner.
23
00:01:11,405 --> 00:01:12,771
I'm Steve Di Schiavi.
24
00:01:12,773 --> 00:01:14,840
I'm a retired New York City
homicide detective.
25
00:01:14,842 --> 00:01:16,908
Now, does he die
right there on the spot?
26
00:01:16,910 --> 00:01:20,813
I know every person,
every house has secrets.
27
00:01:20,815 --> 00:01:23,415
I think it's trying
to steal my soul.
28
00:01:23,417 --> 00:01:24,883
It's my job to reveal them.
29
00:01:24,885 --> 00:01:27,419
You ever get touched
like that again?
30
00:01:27,421 --> 00:01:29,221
But Steve and I never speak...
31
00:01:29,223 --> 00:01:31,323
We never communicate
during an investigation.
32
00:01:31,325 --> 00:01:32,824
...until the very end...
33
00:01:32,826 --> 00:01:34,292
I'm as stunned
as you guys are.
34
00:01:34,294 --> 00:01:36,962
...when we uncover
if it's safe for you to stay...
35
00:01:36,964 --> 00:01:38,830
I don't want anything to
happen to my daughter.
36
00:01:38,832 --> 00:01:40,933
...or time to get out.
37
00:01:40,935 --> 00:01:43,035
His goal is to kill you guys.
38
00:01:57,051 --> 00:01:58,750
I'm in Bogalusa, Louisiana.
39
00:01:58,752 --> 00:02:00,785
It's about an hour
north of New Orleans.
40
00:02:00,787 --> 00:02:02,520
I got a call
from a woman named Wayla.
41
00:02:02,522 --> 00:02:05,991
Now, she thinks the dead in
her home killed her father.
42
00:02:05,993 --> 00:02:07,926
And if Amy and I can't find
a way to get rid of him,
43
00:02:07,928 --> 00:02:09,928
she thinks she's gonna be next.
44
00:02:12,266 --> 00:02:13,465
Before Amy arrives,
45
00:02:13,467 --> 00:02:15,834
I clear the area
of any leading information.
46
00:02:17,604 --> 00:02:19,671
This house has a lot
of family photographs
47
00:02:19,673 --> 00:02:20,739
and religious symbols,
48
00:02:20,741 --> 00:02:22,674
so it's important
that I remove them all.
49
00:02:23,944 --> 00:02:26,011
When I'm done, the
location will be ready
50
00:02:26,013 --> 00:02:27,346
for tonight's walk.
51
00:02:37,925 --> 00:02:41,526
The energy here is
always in motion.
52
00:02:45,966 --> 00:02:48,066
We can't be calm here.
53
00:02:49,102 --> 00:02:52,237
Lots of anxiety.
The stress, the anxiety.
54
00:02:52,239 --> 00:02:56,140
The dead, they say all
of these living people
55
00:02:56,142 --> 00:02:58,777
are the real problem here.
56
00:03:05,118 --> 00:03:06,518
So, Wayla,
I'm glad I'm here now.
57
00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:08,854
When we spoke on the phone,
you sounded pretty terrified.
58
00:03:08,856 --> 00:03:10,254
What's going on?
59
00:03:10,256 --> 00:03:13,592
The paranormal activity here
is out of control.
60
00:03:13,594 --> 00:03:16,127
Day to day life here
is a living hell.
61
00:03:16,129 --> 00:03:19,331
I'm scared for my family.
I'm scared for myself.
62
00:03:19,333 --> 00:03:22,266
I called you
because we need help.
63
00:03:22,268 --> 00:03:24,102
You seem like you're
scared right now.
64
00:03:24,104 --> 00:03:26,471
I mean I'm better
now that you're here.
65
00:03:26,473 --> 00:03:27,673
Okay.
66
00:03:27,675 --> 00:03:28,840
Who all lives in
the house with you?
67
00:03:28,842 --> 00:03:31,610
My husband, Hector,
my son, Kristian, and me.
68
00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:34,279
All right, so what type
of experiences
69
00:03:34,281 --> 00:03:35,547
are we talking about?
70
00:03:35,549 --> 00:03:39,217
Well, we're having everything
from banging noises
71
00:03:39,219 --> 00:03:40,852
to disembodies voices.
72
00:03:41,822 --> 00:03:43,955
We see black shadows...
73
00:03:43,957 --> 00:03:44,756
Okay.
74
00:03:44,758 --> 00:03:46,024
...and physical violence.
75
00:03:46,026 --> 00:03:48,827
I am suffering health issues.
76
00:03:48,829 --> 00:03:50,495
What kind of health issues
are we talking about?
77
00:03:50,497 --> 00:03:54,800
I am having debilitating
stomach pains,
78
00:03:54,802 --> 00:03:58,103
and my dad was having
these same type of pains
79
00:03:58,105 --> 00:03:59,638
right before he died.
80
00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:01,707
Okay, so when did
your father live here?
81
00:04:01,709 --> 00:04:05,711
He lived here from 1996
until his death in 2008.
82
00:04:05,713 --> 00:04:07,245
He died here in the home.
83
00:04:07,247 --> 00:04:09,081
His bedroom was
right over there,
84
00:04:09,083 --> 00:04:12,684
that first room right there,
and it's now my son's bedroom.
85
00:04:12,686 --> 00:04:14,119
How old was Dad?
86
00:04:14,121 --> 00:04:14,853
79.
87
00:04:14,855 --> 00:04:16,121
So, what makes you think
88
00:04:16,123 --> 00:04:18,190
his death was caused
by the paranormal?
89
00:04:18,192 --> 00:04:19,958
A few days before he died,
90
00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:22,728
he had been speaking
with some friends of his... Okay.
91
00:04:22,730 --> 00:04:25,664
...and he told them that he was
seeing things in the house.
92
00:04:25,666 --> 00:04:27,499
So what do you think
happened?
93
00:04:27,501 --> 00:04:30,469
I think maybe this house
has something to do with it... Okay.
94
00:04:30,471 --> 00:04:35,674
...and I think that it might
be coming after me, too.
95
00:04:35,676 --> 00:04:37,809
Why don't you just move?
96
00:04:37,811 --> 00:04:39,410
I can't afford it.
97
00:04:39,412 --> 00:04:43,681
Between your father passing and
the hell you're living through,
98
00:04:43,683 --> 00:04:45,583
how are you dealing
with all of this?
99
00:04:45,585 --> 00:04:46,885
Not very well.
100
00:04:46,887 --> 00:04:53,025
I'm constantly stressed
and totally scared all the time.
101
00:04:53,027 --> 00:04:54,626
It's not living.
102
00:04:57,364 --> 00:05:00,832
I'm seeing this thing that looks
like a shadowy stick figure.
103
00:05:00,834 --> 00:05:05,871
Super tall, super slender,
long arms, long legs.
104
00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:09,708
Not really much
of a torso area.
105
00:05:09,710 --> 00:05:11,209
They're seeing it there.
106
00:05:14,247 --> 00:05:15,780
And it hates.
107
00:05:15,782 --> 00:05:17,315
It hates.
108
00:05:17,317 --> 00:05:19,918
They feel this, they feel
it in their stomachs.
109
00:05:20,987 --> 00:05:22,253
They're scared.
110
00:05:29,730 --> 00:05:32,731
I think this thing
killed somebody here.
111
00:05:36,369 --> 00:05:37,235
It's a male.
112
00:05:38,272 --> 00:05:39,471
Already sick.
113
00:05:40,741 --> 00:05:45,010
I see this thing put its --
inside their mouth
114
00:05:45,012 --> 00:05:47,579
and into their throat.
115
00:05:47,581 --> 00:05:51,749
Then I see this person just,
like, shrivel up into dust.
116
00:05:58,492 --> 00:05:59,958
What's going on in here?
117
00:05:59,960 --> 00:06:03,395
There has been
a female apparition
118
00:06:03,397 --> 00:06:05,964
right here in front
of my son's door.
119
00:06:05,966 --> 00:06:07,466
Can you describe her
for me?
120
00:06:07,468 --> 00:06:10,568
50s, kind of
sandy blonde hair.
121
00:06:10,570 --> 00:06:11,670
See-through.
122
00:06:11,672 --> 00:06:12,870
Anything else?
123
00:06:12,872 --> 00:06:15,840
We see black shadows
here all the time.
124
00:06:15,842 --> 00:06:21,379
I've seen a black mist come up,
like, out of the floor. Okay.
125
00:06:21,381 --> 00:06:25,917
And it just formed up
into a human shape.
126
00:06:25,919 --> 00:06:27,152
Any kind of mechanical
stuff down there?
127
00:06:27,154 --> 00:06:29,120
No. There's nothing
in that area
128
00:06:29,122 --> 00:06:31,923
that could have caused
black smoke to come up.
129
00:06:31,925 --> 00:06:33,658
So, I mean,
with all this going on,
130
00:06:33,660 --> 00:06:34,893
what do you think it is?
131
00:06:34,895 --> 00:06:37,362
These black shadows
are extremely scary.
132
00:06:37,364 --> 00:06:38,196
Maybe demonic.
133
00:06:41,701 --> 00:06:42,901
This person's freaking out
134
00:06:42,903 --> 00:06:45,904
because of this shadow
stick-figure thing.
135
00:06:45,906 --> 00:06:48,006
This thing is old.
136
00:06:48,008 --> 00:06:49,541
And it's angry.
137
00:06:49,543 --> 00:06:52,944
And it has a lot
of personalities.
138
00:06:55,549 --> 00:06:58,016
This thing is fully conscious.
139
00:06:58,018 --> 00:07:01,286
But it's made up of people.
140
00:07:01,288 --> 00:07:02,287
How?
141
00:07:02,289 --> 00:07:04,756
It's a PK manifestation.
142
00:07:04,758 --> 00:07:07,759
From a long, long time ago.
143
00:07:07,761 --> 00:07:10,996
A PK manifestation
develops from a poltergeist
144
00:07:10,998 --> 00:07:13,498
with consistent exposure
to living agents,
145
00:07:13,500 --> 00:07:17,569
suffering extreme stress,
trauma, and emotional upheaval.
146
00:07:17,571 --> 00:07:20,839
They're extremely powerful
and can physically interact
147
00:07:20,841 --> 00:07:22,507
with their environment.
148
00:07:22,509 --> 00:07:24,910
So there are some, like,
living people here
149
00:07:24,912 --> 00:07:28,312
who had a lot of anger
and hatred.
150
00:07:28,314 --> 00:07:30,182
They created this.
151
00:07:30,184 --> 00:07:33,585
Feels like it comes and goes
through this closet here.
152
00:07:35,122 --> 00:07:36,855
It comes out of here.
153
00:07:36,857 --> 00:07:39,858
It comes out of here,
but it goes up...
154
00:07:43,130 --> 00:07:44,963
...when it hides.
155
00:07:51,605 --> 00:07:52,803
What's going on?
156
00:07:52,805 --> 00:07:55,406
Well, one of the
biggest issues in here
157
00:07:55,408 --> 00:07:57,575
is my closet door.
158
00:07:57,577 --> 00:08:01,313
The door knob will turn,
and it'll open on its own.
159
00:08:04,751 --> 00:08:05,950
I mean,
these are old doors,
160
00:08:05,952 --> 00:08:07,685
I don't know
how paranormal that is.
161
00:08:07,687 --> 00:08:10,288
We've had some issues
162
00:08:10,290 --> 00:08:12,824
with seeing things
come out of the closet, too.
163
00:08:12,826 --> 00:08:13,792
Like what?
164
00:08:13,794 --> 00:08:15,126
Black shadows,
things like that.
165
00:08:16,430 --> 00:08:18,363
That's a different story,
then.
166
00:08:18,365 --> 00:08:20,865
I'm terrified
of that closet.
167
00:08:20,867 --> 00:08:22,100
So anything else?
168
00:08:22,102 --> 00:08:25,971
I have mood swings
that range anywhere
169
00:08:25,973 --> 00:08:28,506
from anger
to depression,
170
00:08:28,508 --> 00:08:31,376
anxiety, stress, fear,
171
00:08:31,378 --> 00:08:33,912
might just fly off
the handle for no reason.
172
00:08:33,914 --> 00:08:37,449
Okay, so you think that's all
to do with the paranormal?
173
00:08:37,451 --> 00:08:38,783
Or do you think it has
something to do with the fact
174
00:08:38,785 --> 00:08:40,585
you're under the stress
from the paranormal?
175
00:08:40,587 --> 00:08:43,521
I think that whatever
is in this house
176
00:08:43,523 --> 00:08:45,056
is influencing a lot.
177
00:08:45,058 --> 00:08:46,691
And they're also affecting
my son, Kristian.
178
00:08:46,693 --> 00:08:50,795
His mood has even
turned strange and dark.
179
00:08:50,797 --> 00:08:52,530
Okay, in what way?
180
00:08:52,532 --> 00:08:55,266
He's obsessed with death.
181
00:08:55,268 --> 00:08:56,434
He likes to scare me.
182
00:08:57,704 --> 00:08:59,170
We have fought
so many times.
183
00:08:59,172 --> 00:09:02,007
So it's not just
the paranormal problem,
184
00:09:02,009 --> 00:09:03,341
it's tearing
your family apart.
185
00:09:03,343 --> 00:09:04,609
Absolutely.
186
00:09:04,611 --> 00:09:05,743
Anything else?
187
00:09:05,745 --> 00:09:08,546
Yeah, actually
I have been scratched
188
00:09:08,548 --> 00:09:11,883
in multiple places
on my body.
189
00:09:11,885 --> 00:09:13,951
This is my chest.
190
00:09:13,953 --> 00:09:16,888
It feels like
a never-ending burn,
191
00:09:16,890 --> 00:09:18,289
like a frozen burn.
192
00:09:18,291 --> 00:09:20,425
I know you got a cat here
somewhere, right?
193
00:09:20,427 --> 00:09:21,659
Yes, I do have a cat.
194
00:09:21,661 --> 00:09:23,228
That is not
a cat scratch.
195
00:09:23,230 --> 00:09:25,230
Whatever's here, what do you
think it wants from you?
196
00:09:25,232 --> 00:09:26,664
I think it wants
to hurt me.
197
00:09:26,666 --> 00:09:28,766
But I can't do it
anymore.
198
00:09:28,768 --> 00:09:30,034
I can't.
199
00:09:30,036 --> 00:09:33,571
All I want is a happy,
healthy, normal life.
200
00:09:36,843 --> 00:09:38,710
I think
this shadow thing attacks.
201
00:09:38,712 --> 00:09:41,513
I see it fighting
with somebody on here.
202
00:09:41,515 --> 00:09:45,817
A person is trying to sleep.
203
00:09:47,354 --> 00:09:51,156
And this thing is, like,
right here on the collar bones.
204
00:09:53,927 --> 00:09:56,561
It definitely attacks
people where they're weak,
205
00:09:56,563 --> 00:10:01,466
it makes them sick from that,
and it brings out regret
206
00:10:01,468 --> 00:10:04,202
and it brings out hatred.
207
00:10:04,204 --> 00:10:06,404
It wants to kill living people.
208
00:10:28,862 --> 00:10:30,662
Well Hector, I was talking
to your wife, Wayla
209
00:10:30,664 --> 00:10:32,530
and she was saying that
whatever's in this house
210
00:10:32,532 --> 00:10:34,899
is dangerous to you
and your family?
211
00:10:34,901 --> 00:10:37,135
Have you ever experienced
anything you can't explain?
212
00:10:42,009 --> 00:10:45,210
Does the voice say anything
to you in particular?
213
00:10:47,414 --> 00:10:48,713
Anything else happen?
214
00:11:08,568 --> 00:11:11,436
These moods swings, are they
affecting your relationship?
215
00:11:21,014 --> 00:11:23,448
So, Hector, do you think
that whatever's in this house
216
00:11:23,450 --> 00:11:24,949
is dangerous to you
and your family?
217
00:11:32,893 --> 00:11:34,992
I'm seeing an old woman.
218
00:11:34,994 --> 00:11:36,527
She's dead.
219
00:11:36,529 --> 00:11:42,433
This angry, or rather
hate-filled woman cries a lot.
220
00:11:42,435 --> 00:11:45,336
So I think that the
living actually would hear
221
00:11:45,338 --> 00:11:50,642
a female crying and maybe hear
a female talking to herself.
222
00:11:50,644 --> 00:11:54,813
So she's an extremely
negative person.
223
00:11:55,949 --> 00:11:59,984
So they might feel negative
and ugly.
224
00:12:04,290 --> 00:12:08,493
The old woman comes in here,
and she's angry.
225
00:12:11,297 --> 00:12:13,431
She wants to hurt, physically.
226
00:12:14,968 --> 00:12:18,269
Anybody that comes in here,
it wants to hurt.
227
00:12:18,271 --> 00:12:20,105
It's bad.
228
00:12:28,581 --> 00:12:31,315
Monica, I understand
you're good friends with Wayla. Yes.
229
00:12:31,317 --> 00:12:32,616
How long you guys
known each other?
230
00:12:32,618 --> 00:12:34,352
- About 10 years.
- Okay.
231
00:12:34,354 --> 00:12:37,055
I moved here for three months
to help Wayla.
232
00:12:37,057 --> 00:12:39,057
Did you ever experience
anything you couldn't explain?
233
00:12:39,059 --> 00:12:42,393
I seen what looked
like the Grim Reaper.
234
00:12:42,395 --> 00:12:43,928
Guy with the hood with
the sickle and all that?
235
00:12:43,930 --> 00:12:46,264
Yes, just looked at me
and stared at me
236
00:12:46,266 --> 00:12:48,533
with the black-pitch eyes.
237
00:12:48,535 --> 00:12:49,601
What do you think it was?
238
00:12:49,603 --> 00:12:51,669
It was not human.
239
00:12:51,671 --> 00:12:53,604
It was demonic.
240
00:12:53,606 --> 00:12:54,972
Okay, so anything else?
241
00:12:54,974 --> 00:12:58,009
I've been physically
attacked, several times.
242
00:12:58,011 --> 00:13:00,411
I was scratched on my arm,
243
00:13:00,413 --> 00:13:03,214
I was shoved
on my right shoulder
244
00:13:03,216 --> 00:13:06,384
and I had been slapped
on the bottom of the leg.
245
00:13:06,386 --> 00:13:09,487
I get scared to death
being here.
246
00:13:09,489 --> 00:13:11,689
Wayla's pretty convinced
that whatever's in this house
247
00:13:11,691 --> 00:13:13,891
may have killed her father,
and now it's going after her.
248
00:13:13,893 --> 00:13:15,960
Do you agree with that?
- Yes I do.
249
00:13:15,962 --> 00:13:18,830
Absolutely believe 100%.
250
00:13:18,832 --> 00:13:22,000
I think it wants to kill
whoever's just living here.
251
00:13:22,002 --> 00:13:23,501
Okay.
252
00:13:30,710 --> 00:13:33,311
There's one male
who stays here all the time.
253
00:13:33,313 --> 00:13:36,047
He's sitting down.
He's wearing a suit.
254
00:13:36,049 --> 00:13:39,317
He's old.
He makes me feel sick.
255
00:13:40,954 --> 00:13:42,386
And he's laughing.
256
00:13:42,388 --> 00:13:45,490
And he's saying, "Ha-ha-ha.
Kind of sucks, doesn't it?"
257
00:13:47,493 --> 00:13:51,562
I think he can physically
harm people, and he does.
258
00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:57,568
And what kind of
physical stuff would he do?
259
00:13:57,570 --> 00:13:59,971
He says anything that
his heart desires.
260
00:14:01,140 --> 00:14:03,408
The children are
being strangled.
261
00:14:11,051 --> 00:14:12,784
So, Kristian,
how old are you?
262
00:14:12,786 --> 00:14:13,884
I'm 15.
263
00:14:13,886 --> 00:14:15,286
15, okay.
264
00:14:15,288 --> 00:14:16,788
So, I was talking
to Mom earlier,
265
00:14:16,790 --> 00:14:18,389
and she was saying
how she feels
266
00:14:18,391 --> 00:14:21,158
it's dangerous
in this house for you guys. Yes.
267
00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:24,262
I understand you guys have
been physically attacked.
268
00:14:24,264 --> 00:14:27,431
I have been scratched
on my arms recently.
269
00:14:27,433 --> 00:14:29,166
- Okay.
- Here's a photo.
270
00:14:33,172 --> 00:14:34,839
All right, did you feel
anything scratch you?
271
00:14:34,841 --> 00:14:36,707
I didn't feel
a single thing.
272
00:14:36,709 --> 00:14:37,976
Okay, anything else?
273
00:14:37,978 --> 00:14:40,511
I was sitting in the room
watching TV.
274
00:14:40,513 --> 00:14:44,482
I looked over
and I saw a man in black
275
00:14:44,484 --> 00:14:47,352
walking around
my mom's bedroom.
276
00:14:47,354 --> 00:14:49,253
I immediately went
into my mom's room
277
00:14:49,255 --> 00:14:51,455
and I asked,
"Mama who's up in here?"
278
00:14:51,457 --> 00:14:53,124
And she said, "Nobody."
279
00:14:54,660 --> 00:14:56,461
Your mom tells me
you're scaring her
280
00:14:56,463 --> 00:14:57,929
and giving her
a hard time.
281
00:14:57,931 --> 00:14:59,030
What's up with that?
282
00:14:59,032 --> 00:15:00,898
It was just for
a harmless little prank.
283
00:15:00,900 --> 00:15:02,333
You should stop doing it,
though,
284
00:15:02,335 --> 00:15:03,935
'cause your mom doesn't need
the aggravation.
285
00:15:03,937 --> 00:15:05,469
She's got enough
on her mind.
286
00:15:05,471 --> 00:15:07,538
She doesn't want anything bad
to happen to you.
287
00:15:07,540 --> 00:15:09,807
Okay?
Appreciate that.
288
00:15:09,809 --> 00:15:10,808
Okay.
289
00:15:14,146 --> 00:15:17,482
This old man, he makes
living people delusional.
290
00:15:17,484 --> 00:15:20,985
I think he can manipulate them
and their emotions.
291
00:15:22,254 --> 00:15:25,990
I think that he
can influence them.
292
00:15:25,992 --> 00:15:30,861
Now it says, "Shh, shh, you're
giving all my secrets away."
293
00:15:36,702 --> 00:15:41,238
A lot of the directed, I think
to this, whoever this is.
294
00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:44,876
I think that the old man
can jump this person.
295
00:15:47,447 --> 00:15:51,382
He's saying something
about taking over a boy.
296
00:15:51,384 --> 00:15:54,151
He's a very sick person --
very sick.
297
00:16:08,517 --> 00:16:11,252
So I made my usual calls,
and get this.
298
00:16:11,254 --> 00:16:13,054
One of the historians
I reached out to
299
00:16:13,056 --> 00:16:15,656
is actually a descendant
of one of the first owners
300
00:16:15,658 --> 00:16:16,957
of Wayla's property.
301
00:16:16,959 --> 00:16:19,460
Turns out his family was
involved in a brutal homicide
302
00:16:19,462 --> 00:16:20,695
back in the 1890s.
303
00:16:20,697 --> 00:16:21,862
I'm heading over
to meet this guy
304
00:16:21,864 --> 00:16:23,798
and find out
exactly what happened.
305
00:16:29,372 --> 00:16:31,371
So, Bill, I appreciate
you meeting with me.
306
00:16:31,373 --> 00:16:34,074
Now, I know you were a
relative of the Williams family
307
00:16:34,076 --> 00:16:36,377
that actually owned my
client's property at one time.
308
00:16:36,379 --> 00:16:37,979
What can you tell me
about them?
309
00:16:37,981 --> 00:16:41,682
Your client's property was
owned by Martin Williams,
310
00:16:41,684 --> 00:16:45,686
but in my family we grew up
knowing him as Captain Martin.
311
00:16:45,688 --> 00:16:48,522
Captain, where'd he get from?
The army or something?
312
00:16:48,524 --> 00:16:52,126
Yes, he served as a Captain
in the Confederate Army.
313
00:16:52,128 --> 00:16:53,361
There's a photograph.
314
00:16:53,363 --> 00:16:55,997
He was in many battles,
and he eventually
315
00:16:55,999 --> 00:16:59,800
made his way back
to Bogalusa in 1865.
316
00:16:59,802 --> 00:17:01,235
What's the story
with this homicide?
317
00:17:01,237 --> 00:17:06,974
Well, in November 1894,
his son A.C. Williams
318
00:17:06,976 --> 00:17:10,411
got in a argument with another
gentleman, Chris Morris.
319
00:17:10,413 --> 00:17:12,379
Now, instead of picking
a fight with Morris,
320
00:17:12,381 --> 00:17:14,014
he just went home
and told his father.
321
00:17:14,016 --> 00:17:15,182
All right,
so how old was A.C.?
322
00:17:15,184 --> 00:17:16,050
28 years old.
323
00:17:16,052 --> 00:17:17,785
Okay, so he's not a kid.
324
00:17:17,787 --> 00:17:19,086
No.
325
00:17:19,088 --> 00:17:20,388
And he came back
and told his daddy
326
00:17:20,390 --> 00:17:21,322
that somebody
insulted him.
327
00:17:21,324 --> 00:17:22,523
Yes, yes.
328
00:17:22,525 --> 00:17:23,858
Do you know anything
about this kid, Morris?
329
00:17:23,860 --> 00:17:25,893
He was a larger black man.
330
00:17:25,895 --> 00:17:28,663
We can speculate that
he was in his late 20s.
331
00:17:28,665 --> 00:17:31,198
Okay, so around
the same age as A.C. Yes.
332
00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:35,536
His father Martin immediately
heads out to find Chris Morris
333
00:17:35,538 --> 00:17:38,906
and he runs into his
father, Kelsey Morris.
334
00:17:38,908 --> 00:17:42,042
He asks him to come along
and help find his son, Chris,
335
00:17:42,044 --> 00:17:45,146
and Kelsey said no.
336
00:17:45,148 --> 00:17:46,280
All right,
so what happens next?
337
00:17:46,282 --> 00:17:47,882
Martin was infuriated
338
00:17:47,884 --> 00:17:50,752
and pulled out his rifle
and shot him dead.
339
00:17:51,955 --> 00:17:54,055
And here's an article
about the shooting.
340
00:17:55,291 --> 00:17:56,490
Did he get arrested
for it?
341
00:17:56,492 --> 00:18:00,261
He was arrested.
There was a trial a week later.
342
00:18:00,263 --> 00:18:06,233
His defense team eventually
pleas that he was insane.
343
00:18:06,235 --> 00:18:07,435
Does the jury buy that?
344
00:18:07,437 --> 00:18:09,002
They actually do,
345
00:18:09,004 --> 00:18:12,673
and Martin was acquitted,
as you'll see right here,
346
00:18:12,675 --> 00:18:15,443
and he never served
any time for the homicide.
347
00:18:16,579 --> 00:18:17,845
That's a shame.
348
00:18:21,784 --> 00:18:24,651
This guy in the suit
is a big problem.
349
00:18:24,653 --> 00:18:27,988
Can you tell anything
about this guy in life?
350
00:18:27,990 --> 00:18:29,223
He's white.
351
00:18:29,225 --> 00:18:31,291
He's old, he's bald.
352
00:18:31,293 --> 00:18:34,161
He was wealthy.
He was a tyrant.
353
00:18:34,163 --> 00:18:38,999
- Can you tell when he's from?
- I get 1878.
354
00:18:39,001 --> 00:18:40,067
Do you have any idea
355
00:18:40,069 --> 00:18:41,602
if he has any connection
to the property?
356
00:18:41,604 --> 00:18:44,572
He owned this land
at some point.
357
00:18:46,209 --> 00:18:48,609
I think this man
killed a lot of people.
358
00:18:51,214 --> 00:18:53,480
With this guy, it's bad.
I don't like him.
359
00:18:56,719 --> 00:18:57,918
So far, I've got a client
360
00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:00,488
who believes paranormal activity
killed her father
361
00:19:00,490 --> 00:19:03,090
on a property where
one of the previous owners
362
00:19:03,092 --> 00:19:05,193
murdered a man in cold blood.
363
00:19:05,195 --> 00:19:08,162
But I want to see if
there's anything else.
364
00:19:08,164 --> 00:19:10,698
Searching through old
records, I come across a story
365
00:19:10,700 --> 00:19:12,166
about a local lumber mill.
366
00:19:12,168 --> 00:19:15,035
Turns out, it was the
sight of a deadly riot
367
00:19:15,037 --> 00:19:18,005
less than a mile
from Wayla's house.
368
00:19:18,007 --> 00:19:20,541
I'm heading over to meet
with a local professor
369
00:19:20,543 --> 00:19:23,043
who says this was a tragedy
that started with greed
370
00:19:23,045 --> 00:19:24,779
and ended in bloodshed.
371
00:19:31,554 --> 00:19:33,020
What can you tell me
about this lumber mill?
372
00:19:33,022 --> 00:19:36,123
Basically every single
thing in the community
373
00:19:36,125 --> 00:19:37,859
is directly connected
to the mill.
374
00:19:37,861 --> 00:19:40,994
The people that run the mill
also run the town,
375
00:19:40,996 --> 00:19:43,263
they set wages, you know,
they hire and fire,
376
00:19:43,265 --> 00:19:45,299
they do everything there.
- Okay, so it sounds like
377
00:19:45,301 --> 00:19:47,902
the guys that own and ran
this mill had a lot of juice.
378
00:19:47,904 --> 00:19:50,037
They have all the juice.
379
00:19:50,039 --> 00:19:52,006
So how did it, you know,
fester into a riot?
380
00:19:52,008 --> 00:19:54,008
Several different
people in the community
381
00:19:54,010 --> 00:19:56,710
begin to talk about
organizing a union,
382
00:19:56,712 --> 00:19:58,212
but what they begin
to notice is,
383
00:19:58,214 --> 00:20:01,215
that these are all white people
working together,
384
00:20:01,217 --> 00:20:03,818
and 50% of the labor
at the mill is black.
385
00:20:03,820 --> 00:20:06,787
And hence arrived
a man named Sol Dacus.
386
00:20:06,789 --> 00:20:10,091
And his purpose is going
to be to help unionize
387
00:20:10,093 --> 00:20:13,160
the black laborers in
a cooperative endeavor
388
00:20:13,162 --> 00:20:14,694
with white laborers,
389
00:20:14,696 --> 00:20:16,697
which is almost unprecedented
in southern history.
390
00:20:16,699 --> 00:20:19,566
I mean this had to piss off the
powers that be and the bosses.
391
00:20:19,568 --> 00:20:21,501
They go bananas
about this.
392
00:20:21,503 --> 00:20:24,705
And so they create
the special police force
393
00:20:24,707 --> 00:20:27,307
to smash this
unionization attempt.
394
00:20:27,309 --> 00:20:28,109
So what do they do?
395
00:20:28,111 --> 00:20:29,710
First target is Sol Dacus.
396
00:20:29,712 --> 00:20:31,011
Okay.
397
00:20:31,013 --> 00:20:33,914
So this is
November 21, 1919.
398
00:20:33,916 --> 00:20:36,884
Some say as many as 100
of these special police,
399
00:20:36,886 --> 00:20:38,819
they're gonna go after him
at his house.
400
00:20:38,821 --> 00:20:40,754
He managed to get out of the
house before they got there
401
00:20:40,756 --> 00:20:42,189
and was hiding
in the swamps.
402
00:20:42,191 --> 00:20:43,590
So they trash his place.
403
00:20:43,592 --> 00:20:45,726
So the next morning,
the union people
404
00:20:45,728 --> 00:20:48,562
make a determined statement
of their own.
405
00:20:48,564 --> 00:20:50,531
And what they're gonna do,
is they're gonna send
406
00:20:50,533 --> 00:20:54,267
two white union organizers
with Sol Dacus
407
00:20:54,269 --> 00:20:56,337
and they're gonna
walk up and down
408
00:20:56,339 --> 00:20:57,772
the main street
of Bogalusa.
409
00:20:57,774 --> 00:21:01,142
Both of the white men were armed
with shotguns in their hands.
410
00:21:01,144 --> 00:21:02,943
"We are not going
to be intimidated.
411
00:21:02,945 --> 00:21:04,745
We are not backing down
this time."
412
00:21:04,747 --> 00:21:06,413
Now, how far,
approximately, is that
413
00:21:06,415 --> 00:21:07,581
from my client's
property?
414
00:21:07,583 --> 00:21:08,682
About 3,000 feet.
415
00:21:08,684 --> 00:21:09,750
Okay,
so it's pretty close.
416
00:21:09,752 --> 00:21:10,951
Very close.
417
00:21:10,953 --> 00:21:12,285
I'm sure management
got word of this,
418
00:21:12,287 --> 00:21:15,089
and got pissed off and had
to retaliate at some point.
419
00:21:15,091 --> 00:21:18,359
In the end, it turns into
a full pitched battle.
420
00:21:18,361 --> 00:21:20,695
Dozens and dozens
of shots are fired.
421
00:21:20,697 --> 00:21:21,762
What's the body count?
422
00:21:21,764 --> 00:21:23,297
Once the hail of bullets
stopped,
423
00:21:23,299 --> 00:21:26,633
you've got three white union
organizers killed outright.
424
00:21:26,635 --> 00:21:29,937
A fourth one will die
about 48 hours later.
425
00:21:29,939 --> 00:21:33,140
But, they bought time
for Sol Dacus
426
00:21:33,142 --> 00:21:35,942
to escape out the back
and get away into the woods.
427
00:21:35,944 --> 00:21:38,178
- Sol gets away again.
- Gets away again.
428
00:21:38,180 --> 00:21:39,380
This guy's lucky.
429
00:21:39,382 --> 00:21:41,315
All right, so we got
four homicides here.
430
00:21:41,317 --> 00:21:42,783
Did anybody get
arrested for this?
431
00:21:42,785 --> 00:21:45,653
13 members of the special police
were arrested,
432
00:21:45,655 --> 00:21:47,788
but later a grand jury
refused to indict.
433
00:21:47,790 --> 00:21:49,290
And, in fact, they
were only in jail
434
00:21:49,292 --> 00:21:50,758
for about
an hour and a half.
435
00:21:55,431 --> 00:21:57,732
There are a bunch of
dead people right here.
436
00:22:00,169 --> 00:22:02,602
That's a lot of them.
437
00:22:02,604 --> 00:22:03,537
How many?
438
00:22:03,539 --> 00:22:05,739
Maybe 10 to 15.
439
00:22:05,741 --> 00:22:07,942
It looks like it's outside.
440
00:22:07,944 --> 00:22:11,278
There's at least three or four
people that were murdered.
441
00:22:13,316 --> 00:22:16,884
I see one of them
being shot in the head
442
00:22:16,886 --> 00:22:21,789
with an old fashioned gun,
outside.
443
00:22:24,794 --> 00:22:27,294
They're all in a panic,
they're all freaking out.
444
00:22:27,296 --> 00:22:29,296
Okay, okay, okay,
okay, okay, okay.
445
00:22:29,298 --> 00:22:32,266
My head, my head.
It feels like it's exploding.
446
00:22:43,479 --> 00:22:45,913
For more information
about the show
447
00:22:45,915 --> 00:22:47,448
and if you need us
to investigate
448
00:22:47,450 --> 00:22:49,383
unexplained activity
in your home...
449
00:22:49,385 --> 00:22:52,586
please visit
travelchannel.com/thedeadfiles.
450
00:22:52,588 --> 00:22:54,654
Click on "Help Me, Dead Files!"
to submit your story,
451
00:22:54,656 --> 00:22:55,589
and we'll help if we can.
452
00:23:04,867 --> 00:23:07,902
So a retired Bogalusa
police chief just called.
453
00:23:09,105 --> 00:23:10,671
He went digging through
some files for me
454
00:23:10,673 --> 00:23:13,040
and says he found a cold
blooded murder pretty close
455
00:23:13,042 --> 00:23:14,341
to my client's property
456
00:23:14,343 --> 00:23:16,110
that I'll definitely
need to know about.
457
00:23:22,919 --> 00:23:25,386
So, Chief, thanks for helping
me out with this case of mine.
458
00:23:25,388 --> 00:23:27,455
So what were you
able to find out?
459
00:23:27,457 --> 00:23:30,391
Well, the Furrs.
460
00:23:30,393 --> 00:23:34,428
Mamie and Will live in
Old Main Street in Bogalusa.
461
00:23:34,430 --> 00:23:37,198
Cola Lemming is living
next door. Okay.
462
00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:41,301
January of 1949, Cola Lemming
invites Ms. Furr over
463
00:23:41,303 --> 00:23:45,139
for a cup of coffee that turns
out to be her last cup ever.
464
00:23:45,141 --> 00:23:46,807
Okay, what happened?
465
00:23:46,809 --> 00:23:48,542
Almost immediately
upon returning
466
00:23:48,544 --> 00:23:51,945
to her house next door,
Ms. Furr was in such distress,
467
00:23:51,947 --> 00:23:53,480
screaming and throwing up
and whatever,
468
00:23:53,482 --> 00:23:55,382
that she attracted attention
of neighbors
469
00:23:55,384 --> 00:23:58,285
who came to her aid
and hauled her to the hospital,
470
00:23:58,287 --> 00:24:00,788
where we was pronounced dead
in pretty short order.
471
00:24:02,291 --> 00:24:06,327
The coroner was able to
rule her death as a homicide
472
00:24:06,329 --> 00:24:08,629
and the cause of death
as fluoride poisoning.
473
00:24:10,133 --> 00:24:12,433
How'd the cops put it together
that the neighbor
474
00:24:12,435 --> 00:24:13,968
had something to do
with this?
475
00:24:13,970 --> 00:24:15,503
They were able to go
back to that house
476
00:24:15,505 --> 00:24:19,974
and find a table cloth that
was stained with coffee... Okay.
477
00:24:19,976 --> 00:24:21,308
...which, when tested,
478
00:24:21,310 --> 00:24:24,178
matched the same fluoride
poisoning from Ms. Furr.
479
00:24:25,081 --> 00:24:26,380
That's pretty good
police work.
480
00:24:26,382 --> 00:24:28,582
Did they ever
determine a motive?
481
00:24:28,584 --> 00:24:31,118
The main motive
behind the killing
482
00:24:31,120 --> 00:24:34,454
was the fact that Ms. Lemming
was having an affair
483
00:24:34,456 --> 00:24:36,990
with Ms. Furr's husband,
Will,
484
00:24:36,992 --> 00:24:40,594
and had been going on
for quite some time.
485
00:24:40,596 --> 00:24:41,928
So the dead woman's husband
486
00:24:41,930 --> 00:24:43,797
was having an affair
with this one?
487
00:24:43,799 --> 00:24:44,765
Yes.
488
00:24:44,767 --> 00:24:46,600
Okay.
489
00:24:46,602 --> 00:24:50,070
And she was arrested
and tried and convicted
490
00:24:50,072 --> 00:24:52,006
to life in prison
by the judge.
491
00:24:52,008 --> 00:24:53,507
Here's a copy
of the order
492
00:24:53,509 --> 00:24:55,409
where he sent her
to Angola Penitentiary.
493
00:24:55,411 --> 00:24:57,177
Okay, so I assume
she dies in prison.
494
00:24:57,179 --> 00:24:58,412
No, she does not.
495
00:24:58,414 --> 00:25:00,848
About 10 years into
this life sentence,
496
00:25:00,850 --> 00:25:03,884
the governor issued a governor's
pardon and let her out.
497
00:25:03,886 --> 00:25:06,620
Now, what the circumstances were
around that recommendation,
498
00:25:06,622 --> 00:25:07,488
I mean, who knows?
499
00:25:07,490 --> 00:25:09,022
Now, does she ever show
500
00:25:09,024 --> 00:25:11,124
any signs of remorse
for killing her neighbor?
501
00:25:11,126 --> 00:25:13,560
No, she maintained her
innocence till the end.
502
00:25:21,103 --> 00:25:23,437
That angry woman
keeps following me.
503
00:25:24,774 --> 00:25:27,007
Can you tell anything
about her in life?
504
00:25:27,009 --> 00:25:29,043
I see a short
full-figured woman.
505
00:25:29,045 --> 00:25:33,314
Short brown hair, sometimes
glasses, in her 40s or 50s.
506
00:25:33,316 --> 00:25:35,182
Angry all the time.
507
00:25:35,184 --> 00:25:38,618
Getting heart issues
due to extreme stress.
508
00:25:38,620 --> 00:25:41,722
She will not accept
responsibility for her actions.
509
00:25:46,729 --> 00:25:48,195
She's crying in here.
510
00:25:49,832 --> 00:25:52,466
Any idea
what period she's from?
511
00:25:52,468 --> 00:25:54,401
Possibly in the '30s?
512
00:25:54,403 --> 00:25:56,170
She's in a panic.
She's freaking out.
513
00:25:56,172 --> 00:25:57,938
Something horrible happened.
514
00:25:57,940 --> 00:26:02,076
Nobody's listening to her.
Nobody's listening to her.
515
00:26:02,078 --> 00:26:04,911
She's screaming,
"She's dead! She's dead!"
516
00:26:15,891 --> 00:26:18,492
I saw several disturbing things
during my walk,
517
00:26:18,494 --> 00:26:22,095
but the old man in the suit
had me very concerned.
518
00:26:22,097 --> 00:26:25,098
He was probably in his
late 70s, early 80s.
519
00:26:25,100 --> 00:26:27,101
He didn't have
any eyebrows.
520
00:26:27,103 --> 00:26:30,337
He could be, like,
grimacing or something.
521
00:26:33,376 --> 00:26:35,642
He had bad dentures.
522
00:26:45,921 --> 00:26:47,421
Amy,
is this who you saw?
523
00:26:48,857 --> 00:26:49,823
Yes.
524
00:27:09,812 --> 00:27:12,746
Now that Amy and I have
completed our investigations,
525
00:27:12,748 --> 00:27:15,182
we're ready to reveal
our findings to each other
526
00:27:15,184 --> 00:27:17,284
and our clients
for the first time.
527
00:27:18,888 --> 00:27:20,654
So, Amy, I'd like
you to meet Wayla.
528
00:27:20,656 --> 00:27:22,889
She lives here with
her husband, Hector
529
00:27:22,891 --> 00:27:25,225
and her 15-year-old son,
Kristian.
530
00:27:25,227 --> 00:27:26,960
Here's a photo
of them right here.
531
00:27:28,163 --> 00:27:29,563
Hector doesn't speak
a lot of English,
532
00:27:29,565 --> 00:27:31,799
so I've asked Monica,
who's Wayla's friend
533
00:27:31,801 --> 00:27:34,167
to sit in for him.
534
00:27:34,169 --> 00:27:36,336
Now, Monica actually
moved in here
535
00:27:36,338 --> 00:27:37,504
for a few months
536
00:27:37,506 --> 00:27:40,507
to take care of Wayla
when she was sick.
537
00:27:40,509 --> 00:27:41,975
Both these ladies
are convinced
538
00:27:41,977 --> 00:27:44,044
the paranormal activity
here is dangerous,
539
00:27:44,046 --> 00:27:45,912
and if we can't find
a way to stop it,
540
00:27:45,914 --> 00:27:47,881
somebody's gonna die.
541
00:27:47,883 --> 00:27:50,717
So now that Amy
knows your situation,
542
00:27:50,719 --> 00:27:52,786
I'll ask her to
describe her walk.
543
00:27:55,257 --> 00:27:58,459
I encountered
a negative female.
544
00:27:58,461 --> 00:28:00,527
When you encounter
her energy,
545
00:28:00,529 --> 00:28:03,663
you just start to feel
this gross,
546
00:28:03,665 --> 00:28:07,935
disgusting kind of churning
in your stomach,
547
00:28:07,937 --> 00:28:11,338
and then things that normally
wouldn't really bother you
548
00:28:11,340 --> 00:28:15,142
become extremely
gross and nasty.
549
00:28:15,144 --> 00:28:17,411
Now, Amy, you're describing
one of the main reasons
550
00:28:17,413 --> 00:28:19,346
that Wayla called us in.
551
00:28:19,348 --> 00:28:24,351
I experience rapid
mood swings, depression.
552
00:28:24,353 --> 00:28:26,286
I might've had a good day,
553
00:28:26,288 --> 00:28:28,221
and then all of a sudden
my husband comes in,
554
00:28:28,223 --> 00:28:32,092
and for no reason at all,
holler at him.
555
00:28:32,094 --> 00:28:33,827
Now, Monica, when you
was living back there,
556
00:28:33,829 --> 00:28:35,562
did you get any
of those feelings?
557
00:28:35,564 --> 00:28:37,965
Yes, me and my husband
arguing and fighting,
558
00:28:37,967 --> 00:28:39,466
on a constant basis,
559
00:28:39,468 --> 00:28:42,369
like I was gonna
snap in an instant.
560
00:28:43,305 --> 00:28:45,439
These mood swings and
the fighting and the negativity
561
00:28:45,441 --> 00:28:47,907
is coming from this woman?
- Yep.
562
00:28:47,909 --> 00:28:49,376
Did you get anything
on who this woman
563
00:28:49,378 --> 00:28:50,710
might've been in life?
564
00:28:50,712 --> 00:28:55,549
The woman that I saw was
short and full-figured.
565
00:28:55,551 --> 00:28:58,385
She looked like she was
in her 40s, maybe 50s.
566
00:28:58,387 --> 00:29:01,254
Brown hair, sometimes
wore glasses.
567
00:29:01,256 --> 00:29:03,523
Wayla, didn't you see
a female apparition?
568
00:29:03,525 --> 00:29:08,061
Yes, a female, no more than 40,
in, like, a white lace dress.
569
00:29:08,063 --> 00:29:09,430
Interesting.
570
00:29:09,432 --> 00:29:12,666
She was extremely full
of hatred and misery.
571
00:29:12,668 --> 00:29:16,003
I was getting heart issues
with her because of her stress.
572
00:29:16,005 --> 00:29:19,206
This stress then clouds her
judgment and her reasoning.
573
00:29:19,208 --> 00:29:21,541
And the big thing that
stood out about her
574
00:29:21,543 --> 00:29:24,878
was that she absolutely
cannot accept responsibility
575
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,881
for her decisions
and actions.
576
00:29:27,883 --> 00:29:29,683
A woman full of hate, misery,
bad judgment --
577
00:29:29,685 --> 00:29:31,150
probably a long shot,
578
00:29:31,152 --> 00:29:33,553
but I'll tell you about a murder
I came across in my research.
579
00:29:33,555 --> 00:29:35,688
It involved two women who
lived next door to each other,
580
00:29:35,690 --> 00:29:37,357
about a mile from here.
581
00:29:37,359 --> 00:29:39,025
In January of 1949,
582
00:29:39,027 --> 00:29:41,094
a 43-year-old woman
named Cola Lemming
583
00:29:41,096 --> 00:29:43,429
invited her next door
neighbor, Mamie Furr,
584
00:29:43,431 --> 00:29:44,898
over for a cup of coffee.
585
00:29:44,900 --> 00:29:46,900
Right after Mamie
drank the coffee,
586
00:29:46,902 --> 00:29:48,902
she went home and
started vomiting blood.
587
00:29:48,904 --> 00:29:50,137
My gosh!
588
00:29:51,206 --> 00:29:52,472
The coroner figured out
589
00:29:52,474 --> 00:29:54,507
that she had died of
fluoride poisoning
590
00:29:54,509 --> 00:29:55,843
and ruled it a homicide.
591
00:29:57,112 --> 00:30:00,113
Got a copy of Mamie's
death certificate here.
592
00:30:00,115 --> 00:30:01,915
So what was the motive
for this murder?
593
00:30:01,917 --> 00:30:03,784
It was a classic love triangle.
594
00:30:03,786 --> 00:30:06,452
Lemming was having an affair
with Furr's husband.
595
00:30:06,454 --> 00:30:09,856
I was able to get an article
after Lemming's arrest.
596
00:30:09,858 --> 00:30:12,526
Her photo kind of reminds
me of how you described her.
597
00:30:13,595 --> 00:30:16,797
She was convicted of the murder
and sentenced to life in prison.
598
00:30:18,267 --> 00:30:21,801
Now, somehow, she winds up
getting a pardon 10 years later.
599
00:30:21,803 --> 00:30:23,803
Why she got pardoned
is still a mystery,
600
00:30:23,805 --> 00:30:26,473
but she never admitted
to killing her.
601
00:30:26,475 --> 00:30:28,308
Wow.
602
00:30:31,013 --> 00:30:35,982
The other individual
that I encountered was a trip.
603
00:30:35,984 --> 00:30:39,152
This is one
of the more intense
604
00:30:39,154 --> 00:30:42,255
and powerful
deceased individuals.
605
00:30:42,257 --> 00:30:43,290
it's a male.
606
00:30:43,292 --> 00:30:45,558
The initial flash
I got of him,
607
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:48,562
the way he presented
initially was like in his 40s.
608
00:30:48,564 --> 00:30:52,832
But majority of the time
I was dealing with him,
609
00:30:52,834 --> 00:30:57,871
he was presenting as much older,
like 70s, possibly 80s.
610
00:30:57,873 --> 00:30:59,439
He was white and bald.
611
00:30:59,441 --> 00:31:01,174
I felt like
he owned the property
612
00:31:01,176 --> 00:31:04,678
at some point, but not
necessarily this house.
613
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:06,813
Possibly in the 1870s.
614
00:31:08,717 --> 00:31:11,117
This guy was wealthy,
wore nice suits,
615
00:31:11,119 --> 00:31:15,322
but he was, and is,
an absolute tyrant.
616
00:31:15,324 --> 00:31:17,724
I believe he caused
quite a few deaths
617
00:31:17,726 --> 00:31:19,059
while he was alive.
618
00:31:20,195 --> 00:31:21,561
A lot of things you're saying
make me think
619
00:31:21,563 --> 00:31:23,397
of one of the earliest owners
of your property.
620
00:31:23,399 --> 00:31:24,798
His name was
Captain Martin Williams
621
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,067
and he was born in town
back in 1838.
622
00:31:27,069 --> 00:31:29,736
So you said he caused a lot
of deaths while he was alive.
623
00:31:29,738 --> 00:31:31,672
Well, Williams did fight
for the Confederacy
624
00:31:31,674 --> 00:31:33,740
during the Civil War.
625
00:31:33,742 --> 00:31:36,009
Safe to say he had his
hand in a lot of deaths.
626
00:31:36,011 --> 00:31:37,744
When he came home
after the war,
627
00:31:37,746 --> 00:31:39,479
he became a wealthy farmer
and merchant,
628
00:31:39,481 --> 00:31:41,281
but the killing
didn't stop.
629
00:31:41,283 --> 00:31:45,218
Williams actually murdered a man
in town in 1894.
630
00:31:45,220 --> 00:31:46,919
This is how it went down.
631
00:31:46,921 --> 00:31:49,856
The Captain's son was
insulted by a black guy.
632
00:31:49,858 --> 00:31:51,557
So Captain William
took it upon himself
633
00:31:51,559 --> 00:31:54,161
to take a rifle
and go look for the guy.
634
00:31:55,297 --> 00:31:58,097
He comes across
the black guy's father,
635
00:31:58,099 --> 00:32:02,168
and he basically demands
that he takes him to his son.
636
00:32:02,170 --> 00:32:05,171
So like any father would do,
he refused.
637
00:32:05,173 --> 00:32:07,373
Williams freaked out
and got enraged
638
00:32:07,375 --> 00:32:09,442
at the fact that a black man
didn't listen
639
00:32:09,444 --> 00:32:11,044
to what he told him to do.
640
00:32:11,046 --> 00:32:12,512
And he shot him and killed
him right there on the spot.
641
00:32:12,514 --> 00:32:13,780
Wow.
642
00:32:15,183 --> 00:32:17,517
I talked to
a distant cousin of his,
643
00:32:17,519 --> 00:32:19,586
and he gave me
a photo of him.
644
00:32:19,588 --> 00:32:20,354
Wow.
645
00:32:21,590 --> 00:32:24,257
I've seen him.
646
00:32:27,863 --> 00:32:29,930
So, Amy, you think
you saw the Captain?
647
00:32:29,932 --> 00:32:33,066
I did have a sketch done
of the person that I saw.
648
00:32:35,870 --> 00:32:37,937
Ew.
649
00:32:37,939 --> 00:32:38,972
Creepy-looking guy.
650
00:32:43,545 --> 00:32:45,312
God.
651
00:32:50,085 --> 00:32:51,385
That's bothersome.
652
00:32:53,155 --> 00:32:54,421
He's scary.
653
00:32:59,561 --> 00:33:00,794
You think
it's Captain Williams, then?
654
00:33:00,796 --> 00:33:02,729
Yes.
655
00:33:02,731 --> 00:33:04,564
So I take it he doesn't
really look like that,
656
00:33:04,566 --> 00:33:06,433
and that's the way
he showed himself to you.
657
00:33:08,003 --> 00:33:09,903
And he knew
that people hated it,
658
00:33:09,905 --> 00:33:12,606
but he would do it anyways
just to freak them out.
659
00:33:13,909 --> 00:33:15,642
Would they have experiences
this with this guy?
660
00:33:15,644 --> 00:33:16,910
Yeah.
661
00:33:16,912 --> 00:33:19,312
You do not want to
encounter this man.
662
00:33:21,049 --> 00:33:23,249
First, I think
you might see him.
663
00:33:23,251 --> 00:33:24,785
So now, Monica,
you actually saw
664
00:33:24,787 --> 00:33:26,686
what you thought
was a Grim Reaper?
665
00:33:26,688 --> 00:33:29,122
Yes, I was going
into Wayla's bedroom
666
00:33:29,124 --> 00:33:31,324
and there was this
white pale face
667
00:33:31,326 --> 00:33:34,861
with black eyes
and a hooded figure
668
00:33:34,863 --> 00:33:37,797
and he was looking
straight dead at me eyes.
669
00:33:37,799 --> 00:33:39,899
That'd be
right up his alley.
670
00:33:39,901 --> 00:33:41,468
Now, can this guy
do anything else?
671
00:33:41,470 --> 00:33:43,870
I got that he could
make living people sick,
672
00:33:43,872 --> 00:33:46,506
but I wasn't
exactly sure how.
673
00:33:46,508 --> 00:33:49,142
He can get really physical
with the living.
674
00:33:49,144 --> 00:33:51,110
I think he could probably
hit you, push you,
675
00:33:51,112 --> 00:33:53,947
scratch you,
things like that.
676
00:33:53,949 --> 00:33:56,215
You and your son,
Kristian --
677
00:33:56,217 --> 00:33:57,884
tell her about
the scratches he's got.
678
00:33:57,886 --> 00:34:00,553
The other day,
he got a scratch
679
00:34:00,555 --> 00:34:02,622
that was kind of
a lightning bolt
680
00:34:02,624 --> 00:34:05,091
on I believe it
was the left arm.
681
00:34:05,093 --> 00:34:06,259
I got a photo of it.
682
00:34:09,164 --> 00:34:11,264
Now, Wayla, you've been
scratched, as well.
683
00:34:11,266 --> 00:34:12,398
Yes, I have.
684
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,000
I got a photo of that, too.
685
00:34:15,804 --> 00:34:17,304
Wow.
686
00:34:17,306 --> 00:34:19,439
The scratches,
stuff like that.
687
00:34:19,441 --> 00:34:20,974
Is that being caused
by this Captain?
688
00:34:20,976 --> 00:34:22,042
Yeah.
689
00:34:23,111 --> 00:34:24,711
Did you get anything else
on this guy?
690
00:34:24,713 --> 00:34:27,413
He's extremely active
in the bedroom
691
00:34:27,415 --> 00:34:29,182
in the front
of the house.
692
00:34:29,184 --> 00:34:31,451
That's Kristian's bedroom.
693
00:34:31,453 --> 00:34:33,653
It was --
was my father's.
694
00:34:33,655 --> 00:34:34,654
****
695
00:34:34,656 --> 00:34:37,790
He can physically harm people,
and he does.
696
00:34:40,262 --> 00:34:43,663
And what kind of
physical stuff would he do?
697
00:34:43,665 --> 00:34:46,433
He says anything that
his heart desires.
698
00:34:46,435 --> 00:34:48,868
The most concerning
thing right now
699
00:34:48,870 --> 00:34:51,204
is that he indicated
that he could jump
700
00:34:51,206 --> 00:34:53,507
the person that's
in that room now.
701
00:34:54,843 --> 00:34:58,778
So I believe the individual
in there is a medium.
702
00:34:58,780 --> 00:35:00,347
This person
would be vulnerable
703
00:35:00,349 --> 00:35:04,217
to that specific kind of attack
from a dead person.
704
00:35:04,219 --> 00:35:08,421
So basically he's inhabiting
that individual's body.
705
00:35:08,423 --> 00:35:11,958
This can cause
all kinds of issues.
706
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:15,662
He can cause him to behave
and speak differently.
707
00:35:18,033 --> 00:35:20,367
I almost don't recognize
my son anymore.
708
00:35:21,436 --> 00:35:25,137
He has been acting out.
His attitude has changed.
709
00:35:25,139 --> 00:35:28,274
He's obsessed with death
and the Grim Reaper.
710
00:35:28,276 --> 00:35:29,775
Wow.
711
00:35:29,777 --> 00:35:33,112
I'm curious about what
you think about Kristian
712
00:35:33,114 --> 00:35:34,881
possibly being a medium?
713
00:35:34,883 --> 00:35:37,283
Well,
to be honest with you,
714
00:35:37,285 --> 00:35:38,985
I'm not sure that
that would surprise me
715
00:35:38,987 --> 00:35:43,656
because he's always seen
things that we couldn't see.
716
00:35:43,658 --> 00:35:45,925
You know, him being a medium
is gonna draw
717
00:35:45,927 --> 00:35:47,760
a lot of dead in.
718
00:35:47,762 --> 00:35:50,363
There's gonna be
more activity in your house.
719
00:35:50,365 --> 00:35:52,665
The other thing is, is that
when this guy's jumping him,
720
00:35:52,667 --> 00:35:55,067
he's taking over
your son's body.
721
00:35:55,069 --> 00:35:56,203
God.
722
00:36:00,275 --> 00:36:03,276
There's this other thing
that really freaked me out.
723
00:36:03,278 --> 00:36:07,981
It's a PK Manifestation,
okay?
724
00:36:07,983 --> 00:36:12,552
A long time ago, some
**** up people lived here --
725
00:36:12,554 --> 00:36:13,753
living people.
726
00:36:13,755 --> 00:36:17,190
And they also had abilities.
727
00:36:17,192 --> 00:36:20,026
Their abilities
were psychokinesis,
728
00:36:20,028 --> 00:36:21,962
meaning that they could
influence the environment
729
00:36:21,964 --> 00:36:25,498
around them without
touching anything.
730
00:36:25,500 --> 00:36:27,167
Through doing things
like that,
731
00:36:27,169 --> 00:36:29,236
they ended up
creating an entity.
732
00:36:30,338 --> 00:36:32,305
This thing is created
from hate, fear,
733
00:36:32,307 --> 00:36:34,507
anger, regret,
sadness, and despair.
734
00:36:34,509 --> 00:36:37,576
And even now, when the
living have those kinds
735
00:36:37,578 --> 00:36:44,016
of emotions or thoughts,
it's absorbing from you.
736
00:36:44,018 --> 00:36:45,285
Okay, so what's this
thing look like?
737
00:36:45,287 --> 00:36:46,585
What it looked like
initially
738
00:36:46,587 --> 00:36:50,590
was this really tall,
almost stick figure,
739
00:36:50,592 --> 00:36:52,726
with, like,
this black stuff
740
00:36:52,728 --> 00:36:55,861
emanating off of its
little limbs.
741
00:36:55,863 --> 00:36:57,130
All right, so what
could this thing do
742
00:36:57,132 --> 00:36:58,598
to Wayla and her family?
743
00:36:59,301 --> 00:37:05,171
I saw it going in and out
of the closet in this room.
744
00:37:05,173 --> 00:37:07,040
That's Wayla's bedroom.
745
00:37:07,042 --> 00:37:08,941
Last night,
my closet opened
746
00:37:08,943 --> 00:37:12,011
and it just kind of
waffled back and forth.
747
00:37:12,013 --> 00:37:14,848
A lot of things seem to
come out of that closet.
748
00:37:14,850 --> 00:37:18,251
Wow. The other big thing
is that it emanates
749
00:37:18,253 --> 00:37:20,287
a lot of anxiety,
and that's because
750
00:37:20,289 --> 00:37:21,821
it's so negative and
chaotic,
751
00:37:21,823 --> 00:37:24,557
it also could make you feel
stressed out.
752
00:37:24,559 --> 00:37:28,494
I think it would be
impossible to be calm here.
753
00:37:28,496 --> 00:37:33,700
And I did get that it had
in fact killed someone here.
754
00:37:36,637 --> 00:37:38,438
My dad actually died
here in the house.
755
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:40,974
****
756
00:37:40,976 --> 00:37:43,275
Here's a picture
of her father.
757
00:37:44,379 --> 00:37:47,714
My dad was in good health,
but he told some of his friends
758
00:37:47,716 --> 00:37:52,518
that he was having
stomach pains
759
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:56,222
and that he was beginning
to see things in the house.
760
00:37:56,224 --> 00:37:58,624
I mean, do you think this thing
killed Wayla's father?
761
00:37:58,626 --> 00:38:01,528
Yeah it's...
Yeah.
762
00:38:01,530 --> 00:38:05,131
And I think it's trying to
bother some of the rest of us.
763
00:38:05,133 --> 00:38:06,933
Bother you? Come on.
764
00:38:06,935 --> 00:38:08,467
This is serious stuff
we're talking about.
765
00:38:08,469 --> 00:38:10,804
It's not gonna help things
by you tip-toeing around it.
766
00:38:10,806 --> 00:38:12,271
You thought whatever was
here killed your father.
767
00:38:12,273 --> 00:38:14,774
She just told you that
whatever was here did do that.
768
00:38:14,776 --> 00:38:16,776
I want to know,
but I don't want to know
769
00:38:16,778 --> 00:38:18,778
that this thing
killed my father.
770
00:38:18,780 --> 00:38:21,180
You know, it's scary.
It's really scary.
771
00:38:38,133 --> 00:38:39,999
So Wayla it's a good thing
you called us in when you did,
772
00:38:40,001 --> 00:38:42,334
because based on what
Amy's told us tonight,
773
00:38:42,336 --> 00:38:44,504
the situation here is
even more dangerous
774
00:38:44,506 --> 00:38:45,338
than you realized.
775
00:38:46,708 --> 00:38:49,075
Now's the time to
answer the big question.
776
00:38:49,077 --> 00:38:50,777
Can you live here safely,
777
00:38:50,779 --> 00:38:52,478
or do you need to get
everybody out of here
778
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,615
before this thing takes
somebody else's life?
779
00:38:55,617 --> 00:38:57,617
For that answer,
I'm gonna turn it over to Amy.
780
00:39:00,855 --> 00:39:04,190
Very sorry
to have to tell you
781
00:39:04,192 --> 00:39:10,797
that the best thing you could
do, absolutely, is move.
782
00:39:10,799 --> 00:39:14,868
But, during your time here,
there's a few things you can do.
783
00:39:14,870 --> 00:39:17,737
Your son should see
a demonologist
784
00:39:17,739 --> 00:39:21,174
and a Reiki master/psychic.
785
00:39:21,176 --> 00:39:25,078
These two people
are going to remove
786
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:29,749
any and all attachments
that he may have
787
00:39:29,751 --> 00:39:33,652
and also reclaim pieces
of his personality
788
00:39:33,654 --> 00:39:38,658
that may have become
dislocated.
789
00:39:38,660 --> 00:39:40,059
Once all that's
taken care of,
790
00:39:40,061 --> 00:39:43,129
that's when your son
should start
791
00:39:43,131 --> 00:39:46,532
to actively learn various
protection techniques
792
00:39:46,534 --> 00:39:47,667
for himself.
793
00:39:47,669 --> 00:39:49,602
One thing that I
am gonna suggest
794
00:39:49,604 --> 00:39:51,604
is that you see
a psychiatrist
795
00:39:51,606 --> 00:39:54,240
and a psychotherapist
for him -- now.
796
00:39:55,610 --> 00:39:57,610
So we know Wayla's
got to get out of here
797
00:39:57,612 --> 00:39:59,212
with the family,
but is there anybody
798
00:39:59,214 --> 00:40:01,314
that can come in
and fix this house?
799
00:40:01,316 --> 00:40:02,916
No.
800
00:40:05,153 --> 00:40:06,319
And it sucks.
801
00:40:07,589 --> 00:40:10,156
If she decides to stay,
what could happen?
802
00:40:10,158 --> 00:40:16,529
I mean we're looking at
a very, very bad situation
803
00:40:16,531 --> 00:40:19,432
and a very bad end
if you were to stay here.
804
00:40:20,902 --> 00:40:23,236
It's already killed.
805
00:40:23,238 --> 00:40:30,509
The possibility
of the entity killing again
806
00:40:30,511 --> 00:40:32,645
absolutely could happen.
807
00:40:32,647 --> 00:40:34,247
It's not easy for
Amy to tell people
808
00:40:34,249 --> 00:40:35,949
they got to get the
hell out of their house.
809
00:40:35,951 --> 00:40:39,719
What are you thinking as
far as what you're gonna do?
810
00:40:39,721 --> 00:40:41,488
Well, I don't know.
811
00:40:42,657 --> 00:40:44,256
Your dad
wouldn't want you here.
812
00:40:44,258 --> 00:40:45,458
I don't want you here.
813
00:40:45,460 --> 00:40:48,561
I've been begging for years,
so maybe this is a wake up.
814
00:40:52,033 --> 00:40:53,066
You're right.
815
00:40:54,202 --> 00:40:55,435
If you decide
to get out of here,
816
00:40:55,437 --> 00:40:56,836
which I hope you will,
are you gonna do
817
00:40:56,838 --> 00:40:58,805
all the other stuff
Amy's talking about?
818
00:40:58,807 --> 00:41:00,206
Absolutely, yes.
819
00:41:00,208 --> 00:41:03,809
I'm not willing to risk my son.
In fact, he is my world.
820
00:41:03,811 --> 00:41:06,078
Now I have the answers.
Now I know what to do.
821
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:08,882
Now I know I have to leave.
There's no question.
822
00:41:10,051 --> 00:41:12,152
It's a new start,
just look at it that way.
823
00:41:13,754 --> 00:41:14,821
It's time.
824
00:41:14,823 --> 00:41:17,890
I really appreciate
you guys coming out
825
00:41:17,892 --> 00:41:19,892
and everything
that you've done.
826
00:41:19,894 --> 00:41:22,027
I'm here for you,
no matter what,
827
00:41:22,029 --> 00:41:23,296
through thick and thin.
828
00:41:24,432 --> 00:41:25,665
Thank you.
829
00:41:27,301 --> 00:41:29,435
Telling someone
they need to move
830
00:41:29,437 --> 00:41:32,304
is never easy, but
if Wayla contacts
831
00:41:32,306 --> 00:41:35,308
a demonologist and a
psychic Reiki master
832
00:41:35,310 --> 00:41:38,244
to remove Kristian's
negative attachments,
833
00:41:38,246 --> 00:41:40,380
and a psychotherapist
to help him learn
834
00:41:40,382 --> 00:41:43,850
protection measures,
this family can move on
835
00:41:43,852 --> 00:41:46,519
and lead a peaceful
life someplace new.
836
00:41:46,569 --> 00:41:51,119
Repair and Synchronization by
Easy Subtitles Synchronizer 1.0.0.0
63763
Can't find what you're looking for?
Get subtitles in any language from opensubtitles.com, and translate them here.