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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:10,411 --> 00:00:11,543 It's bad. 2 00:00:11,545 --> 00:00:13,545 He can physically harm people. 3 00:00:14,815 --> 00:00:16,048 I think it wants to hurt me. 4 00:00:16,050 --> 00:00:19,051 I have been scratched on my arms recently. 5 00:00:21,121 --> 00:00:22,621 He caused many deaths. 6 00:00:22,623 --> 00:00:25,991 I think it wants to kill whoever's just living here. 7 00:00:27,128 --> 00:00:29,762 Do you think this thing killed Wayla's father? 8 00:00:31,365 --> 00:00:32,965 And he's laughing. 9 00:00:32,967 --> 00:00:35,801 And he's saying, "Ha-ha-ha. Kind of sucks, doesn't it?" 10 00:00:37,772 --> 00:00:39,905 Panic, panic, panic. 11 00:00:39,907 --> 00:00:42,607 My name is Amy Allen. 12 00:00:42,609 --> 00:00:44,476 I'm seeing, like, blood. 13 00:00:44,478 --> 00:00:46,311 The house just feels bad. 14 00:00:46,313 --> 00:00:49,047 I see dead people. 15 00:00:49,049 --> 00:00:53,519 This man is completely insane. 16 00:00:53,521 --> 00:00:55,287 I speak to dead people... 17 00:00:56,490 --> 00:00:58,791 Okay she doesn't like it in there. 18 00:00:58,793 --> 00:01:00,692 ...and they speak to me. 19 00:01:00,694 --> 00:01:02,694 He likes to twist that knife. 20 00:01:02,696 --> 00:01:06,231 But there's only one way to know if my findings are real. 21 00:01:06,233 --> 00:01:09,901 Something paranormal is trying to kill them. 22 00:01:09,903 --> 00:01:11,403 I rely on my partner. 23 00:01:11,405 --> 00:01:12,771 I'm Steve Di Schiavi. 24 00:01:12,773 --> 00:01:14,840 I'm a retired New York City homicide detective. 25 00:01:14,842 --> 00:01:16,908 Now, does he die right there on the spot? 26 00:01:16,910 --> 00:01:20,813 I know every person, every house has secrets. 27 00:01:20,815 --> 00:01:23,415 I think it's trying to steal my soul. 28 00:01:23,417 --> 00:01:24,883 It's my job to reveal them. 29 00:01:24,885 --> 00:01:27,419 You ever get touched like that again? 30 00:01:27,421 --> 00:01:29,221 But Steve and I never speak... 31 00:01:29,223 --> 00:01:31,323 We never communicate during an investigation. 32 00:01:31,325 --> 00:01:32,824 ...until the very end... 33 00:01:32,826 --> 00:01:34,292 I'm as stunned as you guys are. 34 00:01:34,294 --> 00:01:36,962 ...when we uncover if it's safe for you to stay... 35 00:01:36,964 --> 00:01:38,830 I don't want anything to happen to my daughter. 36 00:01:38,832 --> 00:01:40,933 ...or time to get out. 37 00:01:40,935 --> 00:01:43,035 His goal is to kill you guys. 38 00:01:57,051 --> 00:01:58,750 I'm in Bogalusa, Louisiana. 39 00:01:58,752 --> 00:02:00,785 It's about an hour north of New Orleans. 40 00:02:00,787 --> 00:02:02,520 I got a call from a woman named Wayla. 41 00:02:02,522 --> 00:02:05,991 Now, she thinks the dead in her home killed her father. 42 00:02:05,993 --> 00:02:07,926 And if Amy and I can't find a way to get rid of him, 43 00:02:07,928 --> 00:02:09,928 she thinks she's gonna be next. 44 00:02:12,266 --> 00:02:13,465 Before Amy arrives, 45 00:02:13,467 --> 00:02:15,834 I clear the area of any leading information. 46 00:02:17,604 --> 00:02:19,671 This house has a lot of family photographs 47 00:02:19,673 --> 00:02:20,739 and religious symbols, 48 00:02:20,741 --> 00:02:22,674 so it's important that I remove them all. 49 00:02:23,944 --> 00:02:26,011 When I'm done, the location will be ready 50 00:02:26,013 --> 00:02:27,346 for tonight's walk. 51 00:02:37,925 --> 00:02:41,526 The energy here is always in motion. 52 00:02:45,966 --> 00:02:48,066 We can't be calm here. 53 00:02:49,102 --> 00:02:52,237 Lots of anxiety. The stress, the anxiety. 54 00:02:52,239 --> 00:02:56,140 The dead, they say all of these living people 55 00:02:56,142 --> 00:02:58,777 are the real problem here. 56 00:03:05,118 --> 00:03:06,518 So, Wayla, I'm glad I'm here now. 57 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:08,854 When we spoke on the phone, you sounded pretty terrified. 58 00:03:08,856 --> 00:03:10,254 What's going on? 59 00:03:10,256 --> 00:03:13,592 The paranormal activity here is out of control. 60 00:03:13,594 --> 00:03:16,127 Day to day life here is a living hell. 61 00:03:16,129 --> 00:03:19,331 I'm scared for my family. I'm scared for myself. 62 00:03:19,333 --> 00:03:22,266 I called you because we need help. 63 00:03:22,268 --> 00:03:24,102 You seem like you're scared right now. 64 00:03:24,104 --> 00:03:26,471 I mean I'm better now that you're here. 65 00:03:26,473 --> 00:03:27,673 Okay. 66 00:03:27,675 --> 00:03:28,840 Who all lives in the house with you? 67 00:03:28,842 --> 00:03:31,610 My husband, Hector, my son, Kristian, and me. 68 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:34,279 All right, so what type of experiences 69 00:03:34,281 --> 00:03:35,547 are we talking about? 70 00:03:35,549 --> 00:03:39,217 Well, we're having everything from banging noises 71 00:03:39,219 --> 00:03:40,852 to disembodies voices. 72 00:03:41,822 --> 00:03:43,955 We see black shadows... 73 00:03:43,957 --> 00:03:44,756 Okay. 74 00:03:44,758 --> 00:03:46,024 ...and physical violence. 75 00:03:46,026 --> 00:03:48,827 I am suffering health issues. 76 00:03:48,829 --> 00:03:50,495 What kind of health issues are we talking about? 77 00:03:50,497 --> 00:03:54,800 I am having debilitating stomach pains, 78 00:03:54,802 --> 00:03:58,103 and my dad was having these same type of pains 79 00:03:58,105 --> 00:03:59,638 right before he died. 80 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:01,707 Okay, so when did your father live here? 81 00:04:01,709 --> 00:04:05,711 He lived here from 1996 until his death in 2008. 82 00:04:05,713 --> 00:04:07,245 He died here in the home. 83 00:04:07,247 --> 00:04:09,081 His bedroom was right over there, 84 00:04:09,083 --> 00:04:12,684 that first room right there, and it's now my son's bedroom. 85 00:04:12,686 --> 00:04:14,119 How old was Dad? 86 00:04:14,121 --> 00:04:14,853 79. 87 00:04:14,855 --> 00:04:16,121 So, what makes you think 88 00:04:16,123 --> 00:04:18,190 his death was caused by the paranormal? 89 00:04:18,192 --> 00:04:19,958 A few days before he died, 90 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:22,728 he had been speaking with some friends of his... Okay. 91 00:04:22,730 --> 00:04:25,664 ...and he told them that he was seeing things in the house. 92 00:04:25,666 --> 00:04:27,499 So what do you think happened? 93 00:04:27,501 --> 00:04:30,469 I think maybe this house has something to do with it... Okay. 94 00:04:30,471 --> 00:04:35,674 ...and I think that it might be coming after me, too. 95 00:04:35,676 --> 00:04:37,809 Why don't you just move? 96 00:04:37,811 --> 00:04:39,410 I can't afford it. 97 00:04:39,412 --> 00:04:43,681 Between your father passing and the hell you're living through, 98 00:04:43,683 --> 00:04:45,583 how are you dealing with all of this? 99 00:04:45,585 --> 00:04:46,885 Not very well. 100 00:04:46,887 --> 00:04:53,025 I'm constantly stressed and totally scared all the time. 101 00:04:53,027 --> 00:04:54,626 It's not living. 102 00:04:57,364 --> 00:05:00,832 I'm seeing this thing that looks like a shadowy stick figure. 103 00:05:00,834 --> 00:05:05,871 Super tall, super slender, long arms, long legs. 104 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:09,708 Not really much of a torso area. 105 00:05:09,710 --> 00:05:11,209 They're seeing it there. 106 00:05:14,247 --> 00:05:15,780 And it hates. 107 00:05:15,782 --> 00:05:17,315 It hates. 108 00:05:17,317 --> 00:05:19,918 They feel this, they feel it in their stomachs. 109 00:05:20,987 --> 00:05:22,253 They're scared. 110 00:05:29,730 --> 00:05:32,731 I think this thing killed somebody here. 111 00:05:36,369 --> 00:05:37,235 It's a male. 112 00:05:38,272 --> 00:05:39,471 Already sick. 113 00:05:40,741 --> 00:05:45,010 I see this thing put its -- inside their mouth 114 00:05:45,012 --> 00:05:47,579 and into their throat. 115 00:05:47,581 --> 00:05:51,749 Then I see this person just, like, shrivel up into dust. 116 00:05:58,492 --> 00:05:59,958 What's going on in here? 117 00:05:59,960 --> 00:06:03,395 There has been a female apparition 118 00:06:03,397 --> 00:06:05,964 right here in front of my son's door. 119 00:06:05,966 --> 00:06:07,466 Can you describe her for me? 120 00:06:07,468 --> 00:06:10,568 50s, kind of sandy blonde hair. 121 00:06:10,570 --> 00:06:11,670 See-through. 122 00:06:11,672 --> 00:06:12,870 Anything else? 123 00:06:12,872 --> 00:06:15,840 We see black shadows here all the time. 124 00:06:15,842 --> 00:06:21,379 I've seen a black mist come up, like, out of the floor. Okay. 125 00:06:21,381 --> 00:06:25,917 And it just formed up into a human shape. 126 00:06:25,919 --> 00:06:27,152 Any kind of mechanical stuff down there? 127 00:06:27,154 --> 00:06:29,120 No. There's nothing in that area 128 00:06:29,122 --> 00:06:31,923 that could have caused black smoke to come up. 129 00:06:31,925 --> 00:06:33,658 So, I mean, with all this going on, 130 00:06:33,660 --> 00:06:34,893 what do you think it is? 131 00:06:34,895 --> 00:06:37,362 These black shadows are extremely scary. 132 00:06:37,364 --> 00:06:38,196 Maybe demonic. 133 00:06:41,701 --> 00:06:42,901 This person's freaking out 134 00:06:42,903 --> 00:06:45,904 because of this shadow stick-figure thing. 135 00:06:45,906 --> 00:06:48,006 This thing is old. 136 00:06:48,008 --> 00:06:49,541 And it's angry. 137 00:06:49,543 --> 00:06:52,944 And it has a lot of personalities. 138 00:06:55,549 --> 00:06:58,016 This thing is fully conscious. 139 00:06:58,018 --> 00:07:01,286 But it's made up of people. 140 00:07:01,288 --> 00:07:02,287 How? 141 00:07:02,289 --> 00:07:04,756 It's a PK manifestation. 142 00:07:04,758 --> 00:07:07,759 From a long, long time ago. 143 00:07:07,761 --> 00:07:10,996 A PK manifestation develops from a poltergeist 144 00:07:10,998 --> 00:07:13,498 with consistent exposure to living agents, 145 00:07:13,500 --> 00:07:17,569 suffering extreme stress, trauma, and emotional upheaval. 146 00:07:17,571 --> 00:07:20,839 They're extremely powerful and can physically interact 147 00:07:20,841 --> 00:07:22,507 with their environment. 148 00:07:22,509 --> 00:07:24,910 So there are some, like, living people here 149 00:07:24,912 --> 00:07:28,312 who had a lot of anger and hatred. 150 00:07:28,314 --> 00:07:30,182 They created this. 151 00:07:30,184 --> 00:07:33,585 Feels like it comes and goes through this closet here. 152 00:07:35,122 --> 00:07:36,855 It comes out of here. 153 00:07:36,857 --> 00:07:39,858 It comes out of here, but it goes up... 154 00:07:43,130 --> 00:07:44,963 ...when it hides. 155 00:07:51,605 --> 00:07:52,803 What's going on? 156 00:07:52,805 --> 00:07:55,406 Well, one of the biggest issues in here 157 00:07:55,408 --> 00:07:57,575 is my closet door. 158 00:07:57,577 --> 00:08:01,313 The door knob will turn, and it'll open on its own. 159 00:08:04,751 --> 00:08:05,950 I mean, these are old doors, 160 00:08:05,952 --> 00:08:07,685 I don't know how paranormal that is. 161 00:08:07,687 --> 00:08:10,288 We've had some issues 162 00:08:10,290 --> 00:08:12,824 with seeing things come out of the closet, too. 163 00:08:12,826 --> 00:08:13,792 Like what? 164 00:08:13,794 --> 00:08:15,126 Black shadows, things like that. 165 00:08:16,430 --> 00:08:18,363 That's a different story, then. 166 00:08:18,365 --> 00:08:20,865 I'm terrified of that closet. 167 00:08:20,867 --> 00:08:22,100 So anything else? 168 00:08:22,102 --> 00:08:25,971 I have mood swings that range anywhere 169 00:08:25,973 --> 00:08:28,506 from anger to depression, 170 00:08:28,508 --> 00:08:31,376 anxiety, stress, fear, 171 00:08:31,378 --> 00:08:33,912 might just fly off the handle for no reason. 172 00:08:33,914 --> 00:08:37,449 Okay, so you think that's all to do with the paranormal? 173 00:08:37,451 --> 00:08:38,783 Or do you think it has something to do with the fact 174 00:08:38,785 --> 00:08:40,585 you're under the stress from the paranormal? 175 00:08:40,587 --> 00:08:43,521 I think that whatever is in this house 176 00:08:43,523 --> 00:08:45,056 is influencing a lot. 177 00:08:45,058 --> 00:08:46,691 And they're also affecting my son, Kristian. 178 00:08:46,693 --> 00:08:50,795 His mood has even turned strange and dark. 179 00:08:50,797 --> 00:08:52,530 Okay, in what way? 180 00:08:52,532 --> 00:08:55,266 He's obsessed with death. 181 00:08:55,268 --> 00:08:56,434 He likes to scare me. 182 00:08:57,704 --> 00:08:59,170 We have fought so many times. 183 00:08:59,172 --> 00:09:02,007 So it's not just the paranormal problem, 184 00:09:02,009 --> 00:09:03,341 it's tearing your family apart. 185 00:09:03,343 --> 00:09:04,609 Absolutely. 186 00:09:04,611 --> 00:09:05,743 Anything else? 187 00:09:05,745 --> 00:09:08,546 Yeah, actually I have been scratched 188 00:09:08,548 --> 00:09:11,883 in multiple places on my body. 189 00:09:11,885 --> 00:09:13,951 This is my chest. 190 00:09:13,953 --> 00:09:16,888 It feels like a never-ending burn, 191 00:09:16,890 --> 00:09:18,289 like a frozen burn. 192 00:09:18,291 --> 00:09:20,425 I know you got a cat here somewhere, right? 193 00:09:20,427 --> 00:09:21,659 Yes, I do have a cat. 194 00:09:21,661 --> 00:09:23,228 That is not a cat scratch. 195 00:09:23,230 --> 00:09:25,230 Whatever's here, what do you think it wants from you? 196 00:09:25,232 --> 00:09:26,664 I think it wants to hurt me. 197 00:09:26,666 --> 00:09:28,766 But I can't do it anymore. 198 00:09:28,768 --> 00:09:30,034 I can't. 199 00:09:30,036 --> 00:09:33,571 All I want is a happy, healthy, normal life. 200 00:09:36,843 --> 00:09:38,710 I think this shadow thing attacks. 201 00:09:38,712 --> 00:09:41,513 I see it fighting with somebody on here. 202 00:09:41,515 --> 00:09:45,817 A person is trying to sleep. 203 00:09:47,354 --> 00:09:51,156 And this thing is, like, right here on the collar bones. 204 00:09:53,927 --> 00:09:56,561 It definitely attacks people where they're weak, 205 00:09:56,563 --> 00:10:01,466 it makes them sick from that, and it brings out regret 206 00:10:01,468 --> 00:10:04,202 and it brings out hatred. 207 00:10:04,204 --> 00:10:06,404 It wants to kill living people. 208 00:10:28,862 --> 00:10:30,662 Well Hector, I was talking to your wife, Wayla 209 00:10:30,664 --> 00:10:32,530 and she was saying that whatever's in this house 210 00:10:32,532 --> 00:10:34,899 is dangerous to you and your family? 211 00:10:34,901 --> 00:10:37,135 Have you ever experienced anything you can't explain? 212 00:10:42,009 --> 00:10:45,210 Does the voice say anything to you in particular? 213 00:10:47,414 --> 00:10:48,713 Anything else happen? 214 00:11:08,568 --> 00:11:11,436 These moods swings, are they affecting your relationship? 215 00:11:21,014 --> 00:11:23,448 So, Hector, do you think that whatever's in this house 216 00:11:23,450 --> 00:11:24,949 is dangerous to you and your family? 217 00:11:32,893 --> 00:11:34,992 I'm seeing an old woman. 218 00:11:34,994 --> 00:11:36,527 She's dead. 219 00:11:36,529 --> 00:11:42,433 This angry, or rather hate-filled woman cries a lot. 220 00:11:42,435 --> 00:11:45,336 So I think that the living actually would hear 221 00:11:45,338 --> 00:11:50,642 a female crying and maybe hear a female talking to herself. 222 00:11:50,644 --> 00:11:54,813 So she's an extremely negative person. 223 00:11:55,949 --> 00:11:59,984 So they might feel negative and ugly. 224 00:12:04,290 --> 00:12:08,493 The old woman comes in here, and she's angry. 225 00:12:11,297 --> 00:12:13,431 She wants to hurt, physically. 226 00:12:14,968 --> 00:12:18,269 Anybody that comes in here, it wants to hurt. 227 00:12:18,271 --> 00:12:20,105 It's bad. 228 00:12:28,581 --> 00:12:31,315 Monica, I understand you're good friends with Wayla. Yes. 229 00:12:31,317 --> 00:12:32,616 How long you guys known each other? 230 00:12:32,618 --> 00:12:34,352 - About 10 years. - Okay. 231 00:12:34,354 --> 00:12:37,055 I moved here for three months to help Wayla. 232 00:12:37,057 --> 00:12:39,057 Did you ever experience anything you couldn't explain? 233 00:12:39,059 --> 00:12:42,393 I seen what looked like the Grim Reaper. 234 00:12:42,395 --> 00:12:43,928 Guy with the hood with the sickle and all that? 235 00:12:43,930 --> 00:12:46,264 Yes, just looked at me and stared at me 236 00:12:46,266 --> 00:12:48,533 with the black-pitch eyes. 237 00:12:48,535 --> 00:12:49,601 What do you think it was? 238 00:12:49,603 --> 00:12:51,669 It was not human. 239 00:12:51,671 --> 00:12:53,604 It was demonic. 240 00:12:53,606 --> 00:12:54,972 Okay, so anything else? 241 00:12:54,974 --> 00:12:58,009 I've been physically attacked, several times. 242 00:12:58,011 --> 00:13:00,411 I was scratched on my arm, 243 00:13:00,413 --> 00:13:03,214 I was shoved on my right shoulder 244 00:13:03,216 --> 00:13:06,384 and I had been slapped on the bottom of the leg. 245 00:13:06,386 --> 00:13:09,487 I get scared to death being here. 246 00:13:09,489 --> 00:13:11,689 Wayla's pretty convinced that whatever's in this house 247 00:13:11,691 --> 00:13:13,891 may have killed her father, and now it's going after her. 248 00:13:13,893 --> 00:13:15,960 Do you agree with that? - Yes I do. 249 00:13:15,962 --> 00:13:18,830 Absolutely believe 100%. 250 00:13:18,832 --> 00:13:22,000 I think it wants to kill whoever's just living here. 251 00:13:22,002 --> 00:13:23,501 Okay. 252 00:13:30,710 --> 00:13:33,311 There's one male who stays here all the time. 253 00:13:33,313 --> 00:13:36,047 He's sitting down. He's wearing a suit. 254 00:13:36,049 --> 00:13:39,317 He's old. He makes me feel sick. 255 00:13:40,954 --> 00:13:42,386 And he's laughing. 256 00:13:42,388 --> 00:13:45,490 And he's saying, "Ha-ha-ha. Kind of sucks, doesn't it?" 257 00:13:47,493 --> 00:13:51,562 I think he can physically harm people, and he does. 258 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:57,568 And what kind of physical stuff would he do? 259 00:13:57,570 --> 00:13:59,971 He says anything that his heart desires. 260 00:14:01,140 --> 00:14:03,408 The children are being strangled. 261 00:14:11,051 --> 00:14:12,784 So, Kristian, how old are you? 262 00:14:12,786 --> 00:14:13,884 I'm 15. 263 00:14:13,886 --> 00:14:15,286 15, okay. 264 00:14:15,288 --> 00:14:16,788 So, I was talking to Mom earlier, 265 00:14:16,790 --> 00:14:18,389 and she was saying how she feels 266 00:14:18,391 --> 00:14:21,158 it's dangerous in this house for you guys. Yes. 267 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:24,262 I understand you guys have been physically attacked. 268 00:14:24,264 --> 00:14:27,431 I have been scratched on my arms recently. 269 00:14:27,433 --> 00:14:29,166 - Okay. - Here's a photo. 270 00:14:33,172 --> 00:14:34,839 All right, did you feel anything scratch you? 271 00:14:34,841 --> 00:14:36,707 I didn't feel a single thing. 272 00:14:36,709 --> 00:14:37,976 Okay, anything else? 273 00:14:37,978 --> 00:14:40,511 I was sitting in the room watching TV. 274 00:14:40,513 --> 00:14:44,482 I looked over and I saw a man in black 275 00:14:44,484 --> 00:14:47,352 walking around my mom's bedroom. 276 00:14:47,354 --> 00:14:49,253 I immediately went into my mom's room 277 00:14:49,255 --> 00:14:51,455 and I asked, "Mama who's up in here?" 278 00:14:51,457 --> 00:14:53,124 And she said, "Nobody." 279 00:14:54,660 --> 00:14:56,461 Your mom tells me you're scaring her 280 00:14:56,463 --> 00:14:57,929 and giving her a hard time. 281 00:14:57,931 --> 00:14:59,030 What's up with that? 282 00:14:59,032 --> 00:15:00,898 It was just for a harmless little prank. 283 00:15:00,900 --> 00:15:02,333 You should stop doing it, though, 284 00:15:02,335 --> 00:15:03,935 'cause your mom doesn't need the aggravation. 285 00:15:03,937 --> 00:15:05,469 She's got enough on her mind. 286 00:15:05,471 --> 00:15:07,538 She doesn't want anything bad to happen to you. 287 00:15:07,540 --> 00:15:09,807 Okay? Appreciate that. 288 00:15:09,809 --> 00:15:10,808 Okay. 289 00:15:14,146 --> 00:15:17,482 This old man, he makes living people delusional. 290 00:15:17,484 --> 00:15:20,985 I think he can manipulate them and their emotions. 291 00:15:22,254 --> 00:15:25,990 I think that he can influence them. 292 00:15:25,992 --> 00:15:30,861 Now it says, "Shh, shh, you're giving all my secrets away." 293 00:15:36,702 --> 00:15:41,238 A lot of the directed, I think to this, whoever this is. 294 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:44,876 I think that the old man can jump this person. 295 00:15:47,447 --> 00:15:51,382 He's saying something about taking over a boy. 296 00:15:51,384 --> 00:15:54,151 He's a very sick person -- very sick. 297 00:16:08,517 --> 00:16:11,252 So I made my usual calls, and get this. 298 00:16:11,254 --> 00:16:13,054 One of the historians I reached out to 299 00:16:13,056 --> 00:16:15,656 is actually a descendant of one of the first owners 300 00:16:15,658 --> 00:16:16,957 of Wayla's property. 301 00:16:16,959 --> 00:16:19,460 Turns out his family was involved in a brutal homicide 302 00:16:19,462 --> 00:16:20,695 back in the 1890s. 303 00:16:20,697 --> 00:16:21,862 I'm heading over to meet this guy 304 00:16:21,864 --> 00:16:23,798 and find out exactly what happened. 305 00:16:29,372 --> 00:16:31,371 So, Bill, I appreciate you meeting with me. 306 00:16:31,373 --> 00:16:34,074 Now, I know you were a relative of the Williams family 307 00:16:34,076 --> 00:16:36,377 that actually owned my client's property at one time. 308 00:16:36,379 --> 00:16:37,979 What can you tell me about them? 309 00:16:37,981 --> 00:16:41,682 Your client's property was owned by Martin Williams, 310 00:16:41,684 --> 00:16:45,686 but in my family we grew up knowing him as Captain Martin. 311 00:16:45,688 --> 00:16:48,522 Captain, where'd he get from? The army or something? 312 00:16:48,524 --> 00:16:52,126 Yes, he served as a Captain in the Confederate Army. 313 00:16:52,128 --> 00:16:53,361 There's a photograph. 314 00:16:53,363 --> 00:16:55,997 He was in many battles, and he eventually 315 00:16:55,999 --> 00:16:59,800 made his way back to Bogalusa in 1865. 316 00:16:59,802 --> 00:17:01,235 What's the story with this homicide? 317 00:17:01,237 --> 00:17:06,974 Well, in November 1894, his son A.C. Williams 318 00:17:06,976 --> 00:17:10,411 got in a argument with another gentleman, Chris Morris. 319 00:17:10,413 --> 00:17:12,379 Now, instead of picking a fight with Morris, 320 00:17:12,381 --> 00:17:14,014 he just went home and told his father. 321 00:17:14,016 --> 00:17:15,182 All right, so how old was A.C.? 322 00:17:15,184 --> 00:17:16,050 28 years old. 323 00:17:16,052 --> 00:17:17,785 Okay, so he's not a kid. 324 00:17:17,787 --> 00:17:19,086 No. 325 00:17:19,088 --> 00:17:20,388 And he came back and told his daddy 326 00:17:20,390 --> 00:17:21,322 that somebody insulted him. 327 00:17:21,324 --> 00:17:22,523 Yes, yes. 328 00:17:22,525 --> 00:17:23,858 Do you know anything about this kid, Morris? 329 00:17:23,860 --> 00:17:25,893 He was a larger black man. 330 00:17:25,895 --> 00:17:28,663 We can speculate that he was in his late 20s. 331 00:17:28,665 --> 00:17:31,198 Okay, so around the same age as A.C. Yes. 332 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:35,536 His father Martin immediately heads out to find Chris Morris 333 00:17:35,538 --> 00:17:38,906 and he runs into his father, Kelsey Morris. 334 00:17:38,908 --> 00:17:42,042 He asks him to come along and help find his son, Chris, 335 00:17:42,044 --> 00:17:45,146 and Kelsey said no. 336 00:17:45,148 --> 00:17:46,280 All right, so what happens next? 337 00:17:46,282 --> 00:17:47,882 Martin was infuriated 338 00:17:47,884 --> 00:17:50,752 and pulled out his rifle and shot him dead. 339 00:17:51,955 --> 00:17:54,055 And here's an article about the shooting. 340 00:17:55,291 --> 00:17:56,490 Did he get arrested for it? 341 00:17:56,492 --> 00:18:00,261 He was arrested. There was a trial a week later. 342 00:18:00,263 --> 00:18:06,233 His defense team eventually pleas that he was insane. 343 00:18:06,235 --> 00:18:07,435 Does the jury buy that? 344 00:18:07,437 --> 00:18:09,002 They actually do, 345 00:18:09,004 --> 00:18:12,673 and Martin was acquitted, as you'll see right here, 346 00:18:12,675 --> 00:18:15,443 and he never served any time for the homicide. 347 00:18:16,579 --> 00:18:17,845 That's a shame. 348 00:18:21,784 --> 00:18:24,651 This guy in the suit is a big problem. 349 00:18:24,653 --> 00:18:27,988 Can you tell anything about this guy in life? 350 00:18:27,990 --> 00:18:29,223 He's white. 351 00:18:29,225 --> 00:18:31,291 He's old, he's bald. 352 00:18:31,293 --> 00:18:34,161 He was wealthy. He was a tyrant. 353 00:18:34,163 --> 00:18:38,999 - Can you tell when he's from? - I get 1878. 354 00:18:39,001 --> 00:18:40,067 Do you have any idea 355 00:18:40,069 --> 00:18:41,602 if he has any connection to the property? 356 00:18:41,604 --> 00:18:44,572 He owned this land at some point. 357 00:18:46,209 --> 00:18:48,609 I think this man killed a lot of people. 358 00:18:51,214 --> 00:18:53,480 With this guy, it's bad. I don't like him. 359 00:18:56,719 --> 00:18:57,918 So far, I've got a client 360 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:00,488 who believes paranormal activity killed her father 361 00:19:00,490 --> 00:19:03,090 on a property where one of the previous owners 362 00:19:03,092 --> 00:19:05,193 murdered a man in cold blood. 363 00:19:05,195 --> 00:19:08,162 But I want to see if there's anything else. 364 00:19:08,164 --> 00:19:10,698 Searching through old records, I come across a story 365 00:19:10,700 --> 00:19:12,166 about a local lumber mill. 366 00:19:12,168 --> 00:19:15,035 Turns out, it was the sight of a deadly riot 367 00:19:15,037 --> 00:19:18,005 less than a mile from Wayla's house. 368 00:19:18,007 --> 00:19:20,541 I'm heading over to meet with a local professor 369 00:19:20,543 --> 00:19:23,043 who says this was a tragedy that started with greed 370 00:19:23,045 --> 00:19:24,779 and ended in bloodshed. 371 00:19:31,554 --> 00:19:33,020 What can you tell me about this lumber mill? 372 00:19:33,022 --> 00:19:36,123 Basically every single thing in the community 373 00:19:36,125 --> 00:19:37,859 is directly connected to the mill. 374 00:19:37,861 --> 00:19:40,994 The people that run the mill also run the town, 375 00:19:40,996 --> 00:19:43,263 they set wages, you know, they hire and fire, 376 00:19:43,265 --> 00:19:45,299 they do everything there. - Okay, so it sounds like 377 00:19:45,301 --> 00:19:47,902 the guys that own and ran this mill had a lot of juice. 378 00:19:47,904 --> 00:19:50,037 They have all the juice. 379 00:19:50,039 --> 00:19:52,006 So how did it, you know, fester into a riot? 380 00:19:52,008 --> 00:19:54,008 Several different people in the community 381 00:19:54,010 --> 00:19:56,710 begin to talk about organizing a union, 382 00:19:56,712 --> 00:19:58,212 but what they begin to notice is, 383 00:19:58,214 --> 00:20:01,215 that these are all white people working together, 384 00:20:01,217 --> 00:20:03,818 and 50% of the labor at the mill is black. 385 00:20:03,820 --> 00:20:06,787 And hence arrived a man named Sol Dacus. 386 00:20:06,789 --> 00:20:10,091 And his purpose is going to be to help unionize 387 00:20:10,093 --> 00:20:13,160 the black laborers in a cooperative endeavor 388 00:20:13,162 --> 00:20:14,694 with white laborers, 389 00:20:14,696 --> 00:20:16,697 which is almost unprecedented in southern history. 390 00:20:16,699 --> 00:20:19,566 I mean this had to piss off the powers that be and the bosses. 391 00:20:19,568 --> 00:20:21,501 They go bananas about this. 392 00:20:21,503 --> 00:20:24,705 And so they create the special police force 393 00:20:24,707 --> 00:20:27,307 to smash this unionization attempt. 394 00:20:27,309 --> 00:20:28,109 So what do they do? 395 00:20:28,111 --> 00:20:29,710 First target is Sol Dacus. 396 00:20:29,712 --> 00:20:31,011 Okay. 397 00:20:31,013 --> 00:20:33,914 So this is November 21, 1919. 398 00:20:33,916 --> 00:20:36,884 Some say as many as 100 of these special police, 399 00:20:36,886 --> 00:20:38,819 they're gonna go after him at his house. 400 00:20:38,821 --> 00:20:40,754 He managed to get out of the house before they got there 401 00:20:40,756 --> 00:20:42,189 and was hiding in the swamps. 402 00:20:42,191 --> 00:20:43,590 So they trash his place. 403 00:20:43,592 --> 00:20:45,726 So the next morning, the union people 404 00:20:45,728 --> 00:20:48,562 make a determined statement of their own. 405 00:20:48,564 --> 00:20:50,531 And what they're gonna do, is they're gonna send 406 00:20:50,533 --> 00:20:54,267 two white union organizers with Sol Dacus 407 00:20:54,269 --> 00:20:56,337 and they're gonna walk up and down 408 00:20:56,339 --> 00:20:57,772 the main street of Bogalusa. 409 00:20:57,774 --> 00:21:01,142 Both of the white men were armed with shotguns in their hands. 410 00:21:01,144 --> 00:21:02,943 "We are not going to be intimidated. 411 00:21:02,945 --> 00:21:04,745 We are not backing down this time." 412 00:21:04,747 --> 00:21:06,413 Now, how far, approximately, is that 413 00:21:06,415 --> 00:21:07,581 from my client's property? 414 00:21:07,583 --> 00:21:08,682 About 3,000 feet. 415 00:21:08,684 --> 00:21:09,750 Okay, so it's pretty close. 416 00:21:09,752 --> 00:21:10,951 Very close. 417 00:21:10,953 --> 00:21:12,285 I'm sure management got word of this, 418 00:21:12,287 --> 00:21:15,089 and got pissed off and had to retaliate at some point. 419 00:21:15,091 --> 00:21:18,359 In the end, it turns into a full pitched battle. 420 00:21:18,361 --> 00:21:20,695 Dozens and dozens of shots are fired. 421 00:21:20,697 --> 00:21:21,762 What's the body count? 422 00:21:21,764 --> 00:21:23,297 Once the hail of bullets stopped, 423 00:21:23,299 --> 00:21:26,633 you've got three white union organizers killed outright. 424 00:21:26,635 --> 00:21:29,937 A fourth one will die about 48 hours later. 425 00:21:29,939 --> 00:21:33,140 But, they bought time for Sol Dacus 426 00:21:33,142 --> 00:21:35,942 to escape out the back and get away into the woods. 427 00:21:35,944 --> 00:21:38,178 - Sol gets away again. - Gets away again. 428 00:21:38,180 --> 00:21:39,380 This guy's lucky. 429 00:21:39,382 --> 00:21:41,315 All right, so we got four homicides here. 430 00:21:41,317 --> 00:21:42,783 Did anybody get arrested for this? 431 00:21:42,785 --> 00:21:45,653 13 members of the special police were arrested, 432 00:21:45,655 --> 00:21:47,788 but later a grand jury refused to indict. 433 00:21:47,790 --> 00:21:49,290 And, in fact, they were only in jail 434 00:21:49,292 --> 00:21:50,758 for about an hour and a half. 435 00:21:55,431 --> 00:21:57,732 There are a bunch of dead people right here. 436 00:22:00,169 --> 00:22:02,602 That's a lot of them. 437 00:22:02,604 --> 00:22:03,537 How many? 438 00:22:03,539 --> 00:22:05,739 Maybe 10 to 15. 439 00:22:05,741 --> 00:22:07,942 It looks like it's outside. 440 00:22:07,944 --> 00:22:11,278 There's at least three or four people that were murdered. 441 00:22:13,316 --> 00:22:16,884 I see one of them being shot in the head 442 00:22:16,886 --> 00:22:21,789 with an old fashioned gun, outside. 443 00:22:24,794 --> 00:22:27,294 They're all in a panic, they're all freaking out. 444 00:22:27,296 --> 00:22:29,296 Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. 445 00:22:29,298 --> 00:22:32,266 My head, my head. It feels like it's exploding. 446 00:22:43,479 --> 00:22:45,913 For more information about the show 447 00:22:45,915 --> 00:22:47,448 and if you need us to investigate 448 00:22:47,450 --> 00:22:49,383 unexplained activity in your home... 449 00:22:49,385 --> 00:22:52,586 please visit travelchannel.com/thedeadfiles. 450 00:22:52,588 --> 00:22:54,654 Click on "Help Me, Dead Files!" to submit your story, 451 00:22:54,656 --> 00:22:55,589 and we'll help if we can. 452 00:23:04,867 --> 00:23:07,902 So a retired Bogalusa police chief just called. 453 00:23:09,105 --> 00:23:10,671 He went digging through some files for me 454 00:23:10,673 --> 00:23:13,040 and says he found a cold blooded murder pretty close 455 00:23:13,042 --> 00:23:14,341 to my client's property 456 00:23:14,343 --> 00:23:16,110 that I'll definitely need to know about. 457 00:23:22,919 --> 00:23:25,386 So, Chief, thanks for helping me out with this case of mine. 458 00:23:25,388 --> 00:23:27,455 So what were you able to find out? 459 00:23:27,457 --> 00:23:30,391 Well, the Furrs. 460 00:23:30,393 --> 00:23:34,428 Mamie and Will live in Old Main Street in Bogalusa. 461 00:23:34,430 --> 00:23:37,198 Cola Lemming is living next door. Okay. 462 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:41,301 January of 1949, Cola Lemming invites Ms. Furr over 463 00:23:41,303 --> 00:23:45,139 for a cup of coffee that turns out to be her last cup ever. 464 00:23:45,141 --> 00:23:46,807 Okay, what happened? 465 00:23:46,809 --> 00:23:48,542 Almost immediately upon returning 466 00:23:48,544 --> 00:23:51,945 to her house next door, Ms. Furr was in such distress, 467 00:23:51,947 --> 00:23:53,480 screaming and throwing up and whatever, 468 00:23:53,482 --> 00:23:55,382 that she attracted attention of neighbors 469 00:23:55,384 --> 00:23:58,285 who came to her aid and hauled her to the hospital, 470 00:23:58,287 --> 00:24:00,788 where we was pronounced dead in pretty short order. 471 00:24:02,291 --> 00:24:06,327 The coroner was able to rule her death as a homicide 472 00:24:06,329 --> 00:24:08,629 and the cause of death as fluoride poisoning. 473 00:24:10,133 --> 00:24:12,433 How'd the cops put it together that the neighbor 474 00:24:12,435 --> 00:24:13,968 had something to do with this? 475 00:24:13,970 --> 00:24:15,503 They were able to go back to that house 476 00:24:15,505 --> 00:24:19,974 and find a table cloth that was stained with coffee... Okay. 477 00:24:19,976 --> 00:24:21,308 ...which, when tested, 478 00:24:21,310 --> 00:24:24,178 matched the same fluoride poisoning from Ms. Furr. 479 00:24:25,081 --> 00:24:26,380 That's pretty good police work. 480 00:24:26,382 --> 00:24:28,582 Did they ever determine a motive? 481 00:24:28,584 --> 00:24:31,118 The main motive behind the killing 482 00:24:31,120 --> 00:24:34,454 was the fact that Ms. Lemming was having an affair 483 00:24:34,456 --> 00:24:36,990 with Ms. Furr's husband, Will, 484 00:24:36,992 --> 00:24:40,594 and had been going on for quite some time. 485 00:24:40,596 --> 00:24:41,928 So the dead woman's husband 486 00:24:41,930 --> 00:24:43,797 was having an affair with this one? 487 00:24:43,799 --> 00:24:44,765 Yes. 488 00:24:44,767 --> 00:24:46,600 Okay. 489 00:24:46,602 --> 00:24:50,070 And she was arrested and tried and convicted 490 00:24:50,072 --> 00:24:52,006 to life in prison by the judge. 491 00:24:52,008 --> 00:24:53,507 Here's a copy of the order 492 00:24:53,509 --> 00:24:55,409 where he sent her to Angola Penitentiary. 493 00:24:55,411 --> 00:24:57,177 Okay, so I assume she dies in prison. 494 00:24:57,179 --> 00:24:58,412 No, she does not. 495 00:24:58,414 --> 00:25:00,848 About 10 years into this life sentence, 496 00:25:00,850 --> 00:25:03,884 the governor issued a governor's pardon and let her out. 497 00:25:03,886 --> 00:25:06,620 Now, what the circumstances were around that recommendation, 498 00:25:06,622 --> 00:25:07,488 I mean, who knows? 499 00:25:07,490 --> 00:25:09,022 Now, does she ever show 500 00:25:09,024 --> 00:25:11,124 any signs of remorse for killing her neighbor? 501 00:25:11,126 --> 00:25:13,560 No, she maintained her innocence till the end. 502 00:25:21,103 --> 00:25:23,437 That angry woman keeps following me. 503 00:25:24,774 --> 00:25:27,007 Can you tell anything about her in life? 504 00:25:27,009 --> 00:25:29,043 I see a short full-figured woman. 505 00:25:29,045 --> 00:25:33,314 Short brown hair, sometimes glasses, in her 40s or 50s. 506 00:25:33,316 --> 00:25:35,182 Angry all the time. 507 00:25:35,184 --> 00:25:38,618 Getting heart issues due to extreme stress. 508 00:25:38,620 --> 00:25:41,722 She will not accept responsibility for her actions. 509 00:25:46,729 --> 00:25:48,195 She's crying in here. 510 00:25:49,832 --> 00:25:52,466 Any idea what period she's from? 511 00:25:52,468 --> 00:25:54,401 Possibly in the '30s? 512 00:25:54,403 --> 00:25:56,170 She's in a panic. She's freaking out. 513 00:25:56,172 --> 00:25:57,938 Something horrible happened. 514 00:25:57,940 --> 00:26:02,076 Nobody's listening to her. Nobody's listening to her. 515 00:26:02,078 --> 00:26:04,911 She's screaming, "She's dead! She's dead!" 516 00:26:15,891 --> 00:26:18,492 I saw several disturbing things during my walk, 517 00:26:18,494 --> 00:26:22,095 but the old man in the suit had me very concerned. 518 00:26:22,097 --> 00:26:25,098 He was probably in his late 70s, early 80s. 519 00:26:25,100 --> 00:26:27,101 He didn't have any eyebrows. 520 00:26:27,103 --> 00:26:30,337 He could be, like, grimacing or something. 521 00:26:33,376 --> 00:26:35,642 He had bad dentures. 522 00:26:45,921 --> 00:26:47,421 Amy, is this who you saw? 523 00:26:48,857 --> 00:26:49,823 Yes. 524 00:27:09,812 --> 00:27:12,746 Now that Amy and I have completed our investigations, 525 00:27:12,748 --> 00:27:15,182 we're ready to reveal our findings to each other 526 00:27:15,184 --> 00:27:17,284 and our clients for the first time. 527 00:27:18,888 --> 00:27:20,654 So, Amy, I'd like you to meet Wayla. 528 00:27:20,656 --> 00:27:22,889 She lives here with her husband, Hector 529 00:27:22,891 --> 00:27:25,225 and her 15-year-old son, Kristian. 530 00:27:25,227 --> 00:27:26,960 Here's a photo of them right here. 531 00:27:28,163 --> 00:27:29,563 Hector doesn't speak a lot of English, 532 00:27:29,565 --> 00:27:31,799 so I've asked Monica, who's Wayla's friend 533 00:27:31,801 --> 00:27:34,167 to sit in for him. 534 00:27:34,169 --> 00:27:36,336 Now, Monica actually moved in here 535 00:27:36,338 --> 00:27:37,504 for a few months 536 00:27:37,506 --> 00:27:40,507 to take care of Wayla when she was sick. 537 00:27:40,509 --> 00:27:41,975 Both these ladies are convinced 538 00:27:41,977 --> 00:27:44,044 the paranormal activity here is dangerous, 539 00:27:44,046 --> 00:27:45,912 and if we can't find a way to stop it, 540 00:27:45,914 --> 00:27:47,881 somebody's gonna die. 541 00:27:47,883 --> 00:27:50,717 So now that Amy knows your situation, 542 00:27:50,719 --> 00:27:52,786 I'll ask her to describe her walk. 543 00:27:55,257 --> 00:27:58,459 I encountered a negative female. 544 00:27:58,461 --> 00:28:00,527 When you encounter her energy, 545 00:28:00,529 --> 00:28:03,663 you just start to feel this gross, 546 00:28:03,665 --> 00:28:07,935 disgusting kind of churning in your stomach, 547 00:28:07,937 --> 00:28:11,338 and then things that normally wouldn't really bother you 548 00:28:11,340 --> 00:28:15,142 become extremely gross and nasty. 549 00:28:15,144 --> 00:28:17,411 Now, Amy, you're describing one of the main reasons 550 00:28:17,413 --> 00:28:19,346 that Wayla called us in. 551 00:28:19,348 --> 00:28:24,351 I experience rapid mood swings, depression. 552 00:28:24,353 --> 00:28:26,286 I might've had a good day, 553 00:28:26,288 --> 00:28:28,221 and then all of a sudden my husband comes in, 554 00:28:28,223 --> 00:28:32,092 and for no reason at all, holler at him. 555 00:28:32,094 --> 00:28:33,827 Now, Monica, when you was living back there, 556 00:28:33,829 --> 00:28:35,562 did you get any of those feelings? 557 00:28:35,564 --> 00:28:37,965 Yes, me and my husband arguing and fighting, 558 00:28:37,967 --> 00:28:39,466 on a constant basis, 559 00:28:39,468 --> 00:28:42,369 like I was gonna snap in an instant. 560 00:28:43,305 --> 00:28:45,439 These mood swings and the fighting and the negativity 561 00:28:45,441 --> 00:28:47,907 is coming from this woman? - Yep. 562 00:28:47,909 --> 00:28:49,376 Did you get anything on who this woman 563 00:28:49,378 --> 00:28:50,710 might've been in life? 564 00:28:50,712 --> 00:28:55,549 The woman that I saw was short and full-figured. 565 00:28:55,551 --> 00:28:58,385 She looked like she was in her 40s, maybe 50s. 566 00:28:58,387 --> 00:29:01,254 Brown hair, sometimes wore glasses. 567 00:29:01,256 --> 00:29:03,523 Wayla, didn't you see a female apparition? 568 00:29:03,525 --> 00:29:08,061 Yes, a female, no more than 40, in, like, a white lace dress. 569 00:29:08,063 --> 00:29:09,430 Interesting. 570 00:29:09,432 --> 00:29:12,666 She was extremely full of hatred and misery. 571 00:29:12,668 --> 00:29:16,003 I was getting heart issues with her because of her stress. 572 00:29:16,005 --> 00:29:19,206 This stress then clouds her judgment and her reasoning. 573 00:29:19,208 --> 00:29:21,541 And the big thing that stood out about her 574 00:29:21,543 --> 00:29:24,878 was that she absolutely cannot accept responsibility 575 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,881 for her decisions and actions. 576 00:29:27,883 --> 00:29:29,683 A woman full of hate, misery, bad judgment -- 577 00:29:29,685 --> 00:29:31,150 probably a long shot, 578 00:29:31,152 --> 00:29:33,553 but I'll tell you about a murder I came across in my research. 579 00:29:33,555 --> 00:29:35,688 It involved two women who lived next door to each other, 580 00:29:35,690 --> 00:29:37,357 about a mile from here. 581 00:29:37,359 --> 00:29:39,025 In January of 1949, 582 00:29:39,027 --> 00:29:41,094 a 43-year-old woman named Cola Lemming 583 00:29:41,096 --> 00:29:43,429 invited her next door neighbor, Mamie Furr, 584 00:29:43,431 --> 00:29:44,898 over for a cup of coffee. 585 00:29:44,900 --> 00:29:46,900 Right after Mamie drank the coffee, 586 00:29:46,902 --> 00:29:48,902 she went home and started vomiting blood. 587 00:29:48,904 --> 00:29:50,137 My gosh! 588 00:29:51,206 --> 00:29:52,472 The coroner figured out 589 00:29:52,474 --> 00:29:54,507 that she had died of fluoride poisoning 590 00:29:54,509 --> 00:29:55,843 and ruled it a homicide. 591 00:29:57,112 --> 00:30:00,113 Got a copy of Mamie's death certificate here. 592 00:30:00,115 --> 00:30:01,915 So what was the motive for this murder? 593 00:30:01,917 --> 00:30:03,784 It was a classic love triangle. 594 00:30:03,786 --> 00:30:06,452 Lemming was having an affair with Furr's husband. 595 00:30:06,454 --> 00:30:09,856 I was able to get an article after Lemming's arrest. 596 00:30:09,858 --> 00:30:12,526 Her photo kind of reminds me of how you described her. 597 00:30:13,595 --> 00:30:16,797 She was convicted of the murder and sentenced to life in prison. 598 00:30:18,267 --> 00:30:21,801 Now, somehow, she winds up getting a pardon 10 years later. 599 00:30:21,803 --> 00:30:23,803 Why she got pardoned is still a mystery, 600 00:30:23,805 --> 00:30:26,473 but she never admitted to killing her. 601 00:30:26,475 --> 00:30:28,308 Wow. 602 00:30:31,013 --> 00:30:35,982 The other individual that I encountered was a trip. 603 00:30:35,984 --> 00:30:39,152 This is one of the more intense 604 00:30:39,154 --> 00:30:42,255 and powerful deceased individuals. 605 00:30:42,257 --> 00:30:43,290 it's a male. 606 00:30:43,292 --> 00:30:45,558 The initial flash I got of him, 607 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:48,562 the way he presented initially was like in his 40s. 608 00:30:48,564 --> 00:30:52,832 But majority of the time I was dealing with him, 609 00:30:52,834 --> 00:30:57,871 he was presenting as much older, like 70s, possibly 80s. 610 00:30:57,873 --> 00:30:59,439 He was white and bald. 611 00:30:59,441 --> 00:31:01,174 I felt like he owned the property 612 00:31:01,176 --> 00:31:04,678 at some point, but not necessarily this house. 613 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:06,813 Possibly in the 1870s. 614 00:31:08,717 --> 00:31:11,117 This guy was wealthy, wore nice suits, 615 00:31:11,119 --> 00:31:15,322 but he was, and is, an absolute tyrant. 616 00:31:15,324 --> 00:31:17,724 I believe he caused quite a few deaths 617 00:31:17,726 --> 00:31:19,059 while he was alive. 618 00:31:20,195 --> 00:31:21,561 A lot of things you're saying make me think 619 00:31:21,563 --> 00:31:23,397 of one of the earliest owners of your property. 620 00:31:23,399 --> 00:31:24,798 His name was Captain Martin Williams 621 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,067 and he was born in town back in 1838. 622 00:31:27,069 --> 00:31:29,736 So you said he caused a lot of deaths while he was alive. 623 00:31:29,738 --> 00:31:31,672 Well, Williams did fight for the Confederacy 624 00:31:31,674 --> 00:31:33,740 during the Civil War. 625 00:31:33,742 --> 00:31:36,009 Safe to say he had his hand in a lot of deaths. 626 00:31:36,011 --> 00:31:37,744 When he came home after the war, 627 00:31:37,746 --> 00:31:39,479 he became a wealthy farmer and merchant, 628 00:31:39,481 --> 00:31:41,281 but the killing didn't stop. 629 00:31:41,283 --> 00:31:45,218 Williams actually murdered a man in town in 1894. 630 00:31:45,220 --> 00:31:46,919 This is how it went down. 631 00:31:46,921 --> 00:31:49,856 The Captain's son was insulted by a black guy. 632 00:31:49,858 --> 00:31:51,557 So Captain William took it upon himself 633 00:31:51,559 --> 00:31:54,161 to take a rifle and go look for the guy. 634 00:31:55,297 --> 00:31:58,097 He comes across the black guy's father, 635 00:31:58,099 --> 00:32:02,168 and he basically demands that he takes him to his son. 636 00:32:02,170 --> 00:32:05,171 So like any father would do, he refused. 637 00:32:05,173 --> 00:32:07,373 Williams freaked out and got enraged 638 00:32:07,375 --> 00:32:09,442 at the fact that a black man didn't listen 639 00:32:09,444 --> 00:32:11,044 to what he told him to do. 640 00:32:11,046 --> 00:32:12,512 And he shot him and killed him right there on the spot. 641 00:32:12,514 --> 00:32:13,780 Wow. 642 00:32:15,183 --> 00:32:17,517 I talked to a distant cousin of his, 643 00:32:17,519 --> 00:32:19,586 and he gave me a photo of him. 644 00:32:19,588 --> 00:32:20,354 Wow. 645 00:32:21,590 --> 00:32:24,257 I've seen him. 646 00:32:27,863 --> 00:32:29,930 So, Amy, you think you saw the Captain? 647 00:32:29,932 --> 00:32:33,066 I did have a sketch done of the person that I saw. 648 00:32:35,870 --> 00:32:37,937 Ew. 649 00:32:37,939 --> 00:32:38,972 Creepy-looking guy. 650 00:32:43,545 --> 00:32:45,312 God. 651 00:32:50,085 --> 00:32:51,385 That's bothersome. 652 00:32:53,155 --> 00:32:54,421 He's scary. 653 00:32:59,561 --> 00:33:00,794 You think it's Captain Williams, then? 654 00:33:00,796 --> 00:33:02,729 Yes. 655 00:33:02,731 --> 00:33:04,564 So I take it he doesn't really look like that, 656 00:33:04,566 --> 00:33:06,433 and that's the way he showed himself to you. 657 00:33:08,003 --> 00:33:09,903 And he knew that people hated it, 658 00:33:09,905 --> 00:33:12,606 but he would do it anyways just to freak them out. 659 00:33:13,909 --> 00:33:15,642 Would they have experiences this with this guy? 660 00:33:15,644 --> 00:33:16,910 Yeah. 661 00:33:16,912 --> 00:33:19,312 You do not want to encounter this man. 662 00:33:21,049 --> 00:33:23,249 First, I think you might see him. 663 00:33:23,251 --> 00:33:24,785 So now, Monica, you actually saw 664 00:33:24,787 --> 00:33:26,686 what you thought was a Grim Reaper? 665 00:33:26,688 --> 00:33:29,122 Yes, I was going into Wayla's bedroom 666 00:33:29,124 --> 00:33:31,324 and there was this white pale face 667 00:33:31,326 --> 00:33:34,861 with black eyes and a hooded figure 668 00:33:34,863 --> 00:33:37,797 and he was looking straight dead at me eyes. 669 00:33:37,799 --> 00:33:39,899 That'd be right up his alley. 670 00:33:39,901 --> 00:33:41,468 Now, can this guy do anything else? 671 00:33:41,470 --> 00:33:43,870 I got that he could make living people sick, 672 00:33:43,872 --> 00:33:46,506 but I wasn't exactly sure how. 673 00:33:46,508 --> 00:33:49,142 He can get really physical with the living. 674 00:33:49,144 --> 00:33:51,110 I think he could probably hit you, push you, 675 00:33:51,112 --> 00:33:53,947 scratch you, things like that. 676 00:33:53,949 --> 00:33:56,215 You and your son, Kristian -- 677 00:33:56,217 --> 00:33:57,884 tell her about the scratches he's got. 678 00:33:57,886 --> 00:34:00,553 The other day, he got a scratch 679 00:34:00,555 --> 00:34:02,622 that was kind of a lightning bolt 680 00:34:02,624 --> 00:34:05,091 on I believe it was the left arm. 681 00:34:05,093 --> 00:34:06,259 I got a photo of it. 682 00:34:09,164 --> 00:34:11,264 Now, Wayla, you've been scratched, as well. 683 00:34:11,266 --> 00:34:12,398 Yes, I have. 684 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,000 I got a photo of that, too. 685 00:34:15,804 --> 00:34:17,304 Wow. 686 00:34:17,306 --> 00:34:19,439 The scratches, stuff like that. 687 00:34:19,441 --> 00:34:20,974 Is that being caused by this Captain? 688 00:34:20,976 --> 00:34:22,042 Yeah. 689 00:34:23,111 --> 00:34:24,711 Did you get anything else on this guy? 690 00:34:24,713 --> 00:34:27,413 He's extremely active in the bedroom 691 00:34:27,415 --> 00:34:29,182 in the front of the house. 692 00:34:29,184 --> 00:34:31,451 That's Kristian's bedroom. 693 00:34:31,453 --> 00:34:33,653 It was -- was my father's. 694 00:34:33,655 --> 00:34:34,654 **** 695 00:34:34,656 --> 00:34:37,790 He can physically harm people, and he does. 696 00:34:40,262 --> 00:34:43,663 And what kind of physical stuff would he do? 697 00:34:43,665 --> 00:34:46,433 He says anything that his heart desires. 698 00:34:46,435 --> 00:34:48,868 The most concerning thing right now 699 00:34:48,870 --> 00:34:51,204 is that he indicated that he could jump 700 00:34:51,206 --> 00:34:53,507 the person that's in that room now. 701 00:34:54,843 --> 00:34:58,778 So I believe the individual in there is a medium. 702 00:34:58,780 --> 00:35:00,347 This person would be vulnerable 703 00:35:00,349 --> 00:35:04,217 to that specific kind of attack from a dead person. 704 00:35:04,219 --> 00:35:08,421 So basically he's inhabiting that individual's body. 705 00:35:08,423 --> 00:35:11,958 This can cause all kinds of issues. 706 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:15,662 He can cause him to behave and speak differently. 707 00:35:18,033 --> 00:35:20,367 I almost don't recognize my son anymore. 708 00:35:21,436 --> 00:35:25,137 He has been acting out. His attitude has changed. 709 00:35:25,139 --> 00:35:28,274 He's obsessed with death and the Grim Reaper. 710 00:35:28,276 --> 00:35:29,775 Wow. 711 00:35:29,777 --> 00:35:33,112 I'm curious about what you think about Kristian 712 00:35:33,114 --> 00:35:34,881 possibly being a medium? 713 00:35:34,883 --> 00:35:37,283 Well, to be honest with you, 714 00:35:37,285 --> 00:35:38,985 I'm not sure that that would surprise me 715 00:35:38,987 --> 00:35:43,656 because he's always seen things that we couldn't see. 716 00:35:43,658 --> 00:35:45,925 You know, him being a medium is gonna draw 717 00:35:45,927 --> 00:35:47,760 a lot of dead in. 718 00:35:47,762 --> 00:35:50,363 There's gonna be more activity in your house. 719 00:35:50,365 --> 00:35:52,665 The other thing is, is that when this guy's jumping him, 720 00:35:52,667 --> 00:35:55,067 he's taking over your son's body. 721 00:35:55,069 --> 00:35:56,203 God. 722 00:36:00,275 --> 00:36:03,276 There's this other thing that really freaked me out. 723 00:36:03,278 --> 00:36:07,981 It's a PK Manifestation, okay? 724 00:36:07,983 --> 00:36:12,552 A long time ago, some **** up people lived here -- 725 00:36:12,554 --> 00:36:13,753 living people. 726 00:36:13,755 --> 00:36:17,190 And they also had abilities. 727 00:36:17,192 --> 00:36:20,026 Their abilities were psychokinesis, 728 00:36:20,028 --> 00:36:21,962 meaning that they could influence the environment 729 00:36:21,964 --> 00:36:25,498 around them without touching anything. 730 00:36:25,500 --> 00:36:27,167 Through doing things like that, 731 00:36:27,169 --> 00:36:29,236 they ended up creating an entity. 732 00:36:30,338 --> 00:36:32,305 This thing is created from hate, fear, 733 00:36:32,307 --> 00:36:34,507 anger, regret, sadness, and despair. 734 00:36:34,509 --> 00:36:37,576 And even now, when the living have those kinds 735 00:36:37,578 --> 00:36:44,016 of emotions or thoughts, it's absorbing from you. 736 00:36:44,018 --> 00:36:45,285 Okay, so what's this thing look like? 737 00:36:45,287 --> 00:36:46,585 What it looked like initially 738 00:36:46,587 --> 00:36:50,590 was this really tall, almost stick figure, 739 00:36:50,592 --> 00:36:52,726 with, like, this black stuff 740 00:36:52,728 --> 00:36:55,861 emanating off of its little limbs. 741 00:36:55,863 --> 00:36:57,130 All right, so what could this thing do 742 00:36:57,132 --> 00:36:58,598 to Wayla and her family? 743 00:36:59,301 --> 00:37:05,171 I saw it going in and out of the closet in this room. 744 00:37:05,173 --> 00:37:07,040 That's Wayla's bedroom. 745 00:37:07,042 --> 00:37:08,941 Last night, my closet opened 746 00:37:08,943 --> 00:37:12,011 and it just kind of waffled back and forth. 747 00:37:12,013 --> 00:37:14,848 A lot of things seem to come out of that closet. 748 00:37:14,850 --> 00:37:18,251 Wow. The other big thing is that it emanates 749 00:37:18,253 --> 00:37:20,287 a lot of anxiety, and that's because 750 00:37:20,289 --> 00:37:21,821 it's so negative and chaotic, 751 00:37:21,823 --> 00:37:24,557 it also could make you feel stressed out. 752 00:37:24,559 --> 00:37:28,494 I think it would be impossible to be calm here. 753 00:37:28,496 --> 00:37:33,700 And I did get that it had in fact killed someone here. 754 00:37:36,637 --> 00:37:38,438 My dad actually died here in the house. 755 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:40,974 **** 756 00:37:40,976 --> 00:37:43,275 Here's a picture of her father. 757 00:37:44,379 --> 00:37:47,714 My dad was in good health, but he told some of his friends 758 00:37:47,716 --> 00:37:52,518 that he was having stomach pains 759 00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:56,222 and that he was beginning to see things in the house. 760 00:37:56,224 --> 00:37:58,624 I mean, do you think this thing killed Wayla's father? 761 00:37:58,626 --> 00:38:01,528 Yeah it's... Yeah. 762 00:38:01,530 --> 00:38:05,131 And I think it's trying to bother some of the rest of us. 763 00:38:05,133 --> 00:38:06,933 Bother you? Come on. 764 00:38:06,935 --> 00:38:08,467 This is serious stuff we're talking about. 765 00:38:08,469 --> 00:38:10,804 It's not gonna help things by you tip-toeing around it. 766 00:38:10,806 --> 00:38:12,271 You thought whatever was here killed your father. 767 00:38:12,273 --> 00:38:14,774 She just told you that whatever was here did do that. 768 00:38:14,776 --> 00:38:16,776 I want to know, but I don't want to know 769 00:38:16,778 --> 00:38:18,778 that this thing killed my father. 770 00:38:18,780 --> 00:38:21,180 You know, it's scary. It's really scary. 771 00:38:38,133 --> 00:38:39,999 So Wayla it's a good thing you called us in when you did, 772 00:38:40,001 --> 00:38:42,334 because based on what Amy's told us tonight, 773 00:38:42,336 --> 00:38:44,504 the situation here is even more dangerous 774 00:38:44,506 --> 00:38:45,338 than you realized. 775 00:38:46,708 --> 00:38:49,075 Now's the time to answer the big question. 776 00:38:49,077 --> 00:38:50,777 Can you live here safely, 777 00:38:50,779 --> 00:38:52,478 or do you need to get everybody out of here 778 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,615 before this thing takes somebody else's life? 779 00:38:55,617 --> 00:38:57,617 For that answer, I'm gonna turn it over to Amy. 780 00:39:00,855 --> 00:39:04,190 Very sorry to have to tell you 781 00:39:04,192 --> 00:39:10,797 that the best thing you could do, absolutely, is move. 782 00:39:10,799 --> 00:39:14,868 But, during your time here, there's a few things you can do. 783 00:39:14,870 --> 00:39:17,737 Your son should see a demonologist 784 00:39:17,739 --> 00:39:21,174 and a Reiki master/psychic. 785 00:39:21,176 --> 00:39:25,078 These two people are going to remove 786 00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:29,749 any and all attachments that he may have 787 00:39:29,751 --> 00:39:33,652 and also reclaim pieces of his personality 788 00:39:33,654 --> 00:39:38,658 that may have become dislocated. 789 00:39:38,660 --> 00:39:40,059 Once all that's taken care of, 790 00:39:40,061 --> 00:39:43,129 that's when your son should start 791 00:39:43,131 --> 00:39:46,532 to actively learn various protection techniques 792 00:39:46,534 --> 00:39:47,667 for himself. 793 00:39:47,669 --> 00:39:49,602 One thing that I am gonna suggest 794 00:39:49,604 --> 00:39:51,604 is that you see a psychiatrist 795 00:39:51,606 --> 00:39:54,240 and a psychotherapist for him -- now. 796 00:39:55,610 --> 00:39:57,610 So we know Wayla's got to get out of here 797 00:39:57,612 --> 00:39:59,212 with the family, but is there anybody 798 00:39:59,214 --> 00:40:01,314 that can come in and fix this house? 799 00:40:01,316 --> 00:40:02,916 No. 800 00:40:05,153 --> 00:40:06,319 And it sucks. 801 00:40:07,589 --> 00:40:10,156 If she decides to stay, what could happen? 802 00:40:10,158 --> 00:40:16,529 I mean we're looking at a very, very bad situation 803 00:40:16,531 --> 00:40:19,432 and a very bad end if you were to stay here. 804 00:40:20,902 --> 00:40:23,236 It's already killed. 805 00:40:23,238 --> 00:40:30,509 The possibility of the entity killing again 806 00:40:30,511 --> 00:40:32,645 absolutely could happen. 807 00:40:32,647 --> 00:40:34,247 It's not easy for Amy to tell people 808 00:40:34,249 --> 00:40:35,949 they got to get the hell out of their house. 809 00:40:35,951 --> 00:40:39,719 What are you thinking as far as what you're gonna do? 810 00:40:39,721 --> 00:40:41,488 Well, I don't know. 811 00:40:42,657 --> 00:40:44,256 Your dad wouldn't want you here. 812 00:40:44,258 --> 00:40:45,458 I don't want you here. 813 00:40:45,460 --> 00:40:48,561 I've been begging for years, so maybe this is a wake up. 814 00:40:52,033 --> 00:40:53,066 You're right. 815 00:40:54,202 --> 00:40:55,435 If you decide to get out of here, 816 00:40:55,437 --> 00:40:56,836 which I hope you will, are you gonna do 817 00:40:56,838 --> 00:40:58,805 all the other stuff Amy's talking about? 818 00:40:58,807 --> 00:41:00,206 Absolutely, yes. 819 00:41:00,208 --> 00:41:03,809 I'm not willing to risk my son. In fact, he is my world. 820 00:41:03,811 --> 00:41:06,078 Now I have the answers. Now I know what to do. 821 00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:08,882 Now I know I have to leave. There's no question. 822 00:41:10,051 --> 00:41:12,152 It's a new start, just look at it that way. 823 00:41:13,754 --> 00:41:14,821 It's time. 824 00:41:14,823 --> 00:41:17,890 I really appreciate you guys coming out 825 00:41:17,892 --> 00:41:19,892 and everything that you've done. 826 00:41:19,894 --> 00:41:22,027 I'm here for you, no matter what, 827 00:41:22,029 --> 00:41:23,296 through thick and thin. 828 00:41:24,432 --> 00:41:25,665 Thank you. 829 00:41:27,301 --> 00:41:29,435 Telling someone they need to move 830 00:41:29,437 --> 00:41:32,304 is never easy, but if Wayla contacts 831 00:41:32,306 --> 00:41:35,308 a demonologist and a psychic Reiki master 832 00:41:35,310 --> 00:41:38,244 to remove Kristian's negative attachments, 833 00:41:38,246 --> 00:41:40,380 and a psychotherapist to help him learn 834 00:41:40,382 --> 00:41:43,850 protection measures, this family can move on 835 00:41:43,852 --> 00:41:46,519 and lead a peaceful life someplace new. 836 00:41:46,569 --> 00:41:51,119 Repair and Synchronization by Easy Subtitles Synchronizer 1.0.0.0 63763

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