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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:10,827 --> 00:00:13,228 I am in pain. 2 00:00:13,230 --> 00:00:16,431 She just knocked the...out of me. 3 00:00:16,433 --> 00:00:18,267 It's coming after my mom. 4 00:00:18,269 --> 00:00:19,902 I think they want to kill me. 5 00:00:21,471 --> 00:00:23,105 Her head's being bashed in. 6 00:00:23,107 --> 00:00:25,474 She closed her eyes and never opened them again. 7 00:00:27,044 --> 00:00:30,312 It would not be good to have living children around her. 8 00:00:30,314 --> 00:00:31,780 She's like, "I want to hate, 9 00:00:31,782 --> 00:00:34,483 I want to hurt, I want to destroy." 10 00:00:35,586 --> 00:00:38,253 Panic, panic, panic. 11 00:00:38,255 --> 00:00:40,255 My name is Amy Allan. 12 00:00:40,257 --> 00:00:42,191 I'm seeing, like, blood. 13 00:00:42,193 --> 00:00:45,127 The house just feels bad. 14 00:00:45,129 --> 00:00:46,628 I see dead people. 15 00:00:46,630 --> 00:00:51,233 This man is completely insane. 16 00:00:51,235 --> 00:00:54,069 I speak to dead people. 17 00:00:54,071 --> 00:00:56,571 Okay, she didn't like it in there. 18 00:00:56,573 --> 00:00:58,407 And they speak to me. 19 00:00:58,409 --> 00:01:00,375 He likes to twist that knife. 20 00:01:00,377 --> 00:01:03,912 But there's only one way to know if my findings are real. 21 00:01:03,914 --> 00:01:06,949 Something paranormal is trying to kill them. 22 00:01:07,718 --> 00:01:09,151 I rely on my partner. 23 00:01:09,153 --> 00:01:10,619 I'm Steve Di Schiavi. 24 00:01:10,621 --> 00:01:12,988 I'm a retired New York City homicide detective. 25 00:01:12,990 --> 00:01:14,456 Now, does he die right there on the spot? 26 00:01:14,458 --> 00:01:18,527 I know every person, every house has secrets. 27 00:01:18,529 --> 00:01:21,096 I think it's trying to steal my soul. 28 00:01:21,098 --> 00:01:22,965 It's my job to reveal them. 29 00:01:22,967 --> 00:01:25,100 You ever get touched like that again? 30 00:01:25,102 --> 00:01:26,935 But Steve and I never speak... 31 00:01:26,937 --> 00:01:29,004 We never communicate during an investigation. 32 00:01:29,006 --> 00:01:30,539 ...until the very end. 33 00:01:30,541 --> 00:01:32,374 I'm as stunned as you guys are. 34 00:01:32,376 --> 00:01:34,476 We uncover it's safe for you to stay... 35 00:01:34,478 --> 00:01:36,945 I don't want anything to happen to my daughter. 36 00:01:36,947 --> 00:01:38,513 Or time to get out. 37 00:01:38,515 --> 00:01:41,516 His goal is to kill you guys. 38 00:01:54,465 --> 00:01:55,998 I'm in Berlin Heights, Ohio. 39 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,801 It's a small suburb about an hour west of Cleveland. 40 00:01:58,803 --> 00:02:00,669 I got a call from a young woman named Brittany. 41 00:02:00,671 --> 00:02:04,206 She says the house she grew up in was a paranormal war zone. 42 00:02:04,208 --> 00:02:06,108 She and her sister got the hell out, 43 00:02:06,110 --> 00:02:08,009 but her mom doesn't want to leave. 44 00:02:08,011 --> 00:02:09,411 Brittany says if we can't help, 45 00:02:09,413 --> 00:02:11,680 her mother's going to get seriously hurt. 46 00:02:14,885 --> 00:02:16,185 Before Amy arrives, 47 00:02:16,187 --> 00:02:19,488 I have to remove any leading information. 48 00:02:19,490 --> 00:02:22,691 This home has a lot of family photos 49 00:02:22,693 --> 00:02:25,293 and religious symbols, so it's important 50 00:02:25,295 --> 00:02:27,563 that I cover or remove them all. 51 00:02:29,300 --> 00:02:31,300 When I'm done, the location will be ready 52 00:02:31,302 --> 00:02:33,435 for tonight's walk. 53 00:02:45,282 --> 00:02:47,849 I don't like this. 54 00:02:47,851 --> 00:02:52,187 I see all these black, like, vines growing 55 00:02:52,189 --> 00:02:54,056 all over the land here. 56 00:02:55,526 --> 00:03:00,028 They literally are embedded into the house from the ground. 57 00:03:01,031 --> 00:03:05,267 They're carrying bad water and it's bad earth. 58 00:03:06,837 --> 00:03:10,872 And it affects the living. These vines make people evil. 59 00:03:18,148 --> 00:03:20,148 So, Brittany, when we spoke on the phone, 60 00:03:20,150 --> 00:03:22,050 sounded like you were pretty desperate. 61 00:03:22,052 --> 00:03:23,252 What the hell's going on? 62 00:03:23,254 --> 00:03:26,555 Something's been going after my mom. 63 00:03:26,557 --> 00:03:28,690 She's already been physically hurt, 64 00:03:28,692 --> 00:03:30,025 and I'm worried that it's just going 65 00:03:30,027 --> 00:03:32,227 to get worse from here. 66 00:03:32,229 --> 00:03:34,829 Now, Brittany, I know you don't live in the house anymore, 67 00:03:34,831 --> 00:03:35,998 but who exactly does? 68 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,333 So, my sister and I, we grew up here, 69 00:03:38,335 --> 00:03:40,435 but we've since moved out. 70 00:03:40,437 --> 00:03:41,570 Okay. 71 00:03:41,572 --> 00:03:43,605 Right now, currently, my mom and dad. 72 00:03:43,607 --> 00:03:46,841 When you did live here, did you have experiences? 73 00:03:46,843 --> 00:03:48,910 Yeah, since day one. 74 00:03:48,912 --> 00:03:51,146 Most nights, I'd cry myself to sleep. 75 00:03:51,148 --> 00:03:52,380 What about your sister? 76 00:03:52,382 --> 00:03:54,449 Yeah, it was just as bad for her. 77 00:03:54,451 --> 00:03:56,318 So, I'm curious, does coming back here 78 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:57,785 bother you at all? 79 00:03:57,787 --> 00:04:00,722 Yes. I have a little 8- month-old, 80 00:04:00,724 --> 00:04:03,024 and I don't want anything to hurt her. 81 00:04:03,026 --> 00:04:04,526 Do me a favor. Can you give me an idea 82 00:04:04,528 --> 00:04:06,161 what everybody's experiencing here? 83 00:04:06,163 --> 00:04:09,063 We've heard lots of footsteps. 84 00:04:09,065 --> 00:04:09,931 Okay. 85 00:04:09,933 --> 00:04:12,801 We have objects moving. 86 00:04:12,803 --> 00:04:15,604 We've seen apparitions. 87 00:04:15,606 --> 00:04:17,940 There's dark shadows. 88 00:04:17,942 --> 00:04:19,074 And now it's gotten to the point 89 00:04:19,076 --> 00:04:21,810 where people are getting physically harmed. 90 00:04:21,812 --> 00:04:23,078 When you said, "physical attacks," 91 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:24,212 what are we talking about? 92 00:04:24,214 --> 00:04:27,649 My mom, she ended up getting bit one night. 93 00:04:27,651 --> 00:04:31,887 She was upstairs in bed, and she saw this lady. 94 00:04:31,889 --> 00:04:33,354 And she ended up biting her, 95 00:04:33,356 --> 00:04:35,891 and then there was also bruises. 96 00:04:35,893 --> 00:04:37,292 She actually saw somebody -- 97 00:04:37,294 --> 00:04:39,127 Yeah. And then that person bit her? 98 00:04:39,129 --> 00:04:40,328 Yeah. 99 00:04:40,330 --> 00:04:42,630 In 140, some-odd cases, I've never heard 100 00:04:42,632 --> 00:04:44,032 of somebody actually seeing the apparition, 101 00:04:44,034 --> 00:04:45,566 and then the apparition bit them. 102 00:04:45,568 --> 00:04:46,701 Yeah. 103 00:04:46,703 --> 00:04:48,770 How's your mom holding up with all this going on? 104 00:04:48,772 --> 00:04:51,373 Most days, she's okay, but some days, 105 00:04:51,375 --> 00:04:53,008 she gets shaken up by it. 106 00:04:53,010 --> 00:04:55,376 My sister, she had mentioned, 107 00:04:55,378 --> 00:04:58,013 that she's been shorter with her recently. 108 00:04:58,015 --> 00:04:59,647 What do you think is here? 109 00:04:59,649 --> 00:05:00,849 I know that they're negative -- 110 00:05:00,851 --> 00:05:01,849 Right. 111 00:05:01,851 --> 00:05:03,317 And I know that they're bad. 112 00:05:03,319 --> 00:05:05,353 It's coming after my mom. 113 00:05:05,355 --> 00:05:07,588 It just wants to hurt her. 114 00:05:13,997 --> 00:05:15,797 Here. 115 00:05:17,267 --> 00:05:18,266 It's okay. 116 00:05:22,406 --> 00:05:25,073 So there's a dead woman out here. 117 00:05:25,075 --> 00:05:27,608 She died. It was not good. It was bad. 118 00:05:27,610 --> 00:05:29,711 And her head's being bashed in. 119 00:05:31,682 --> 00:05:34,549 The black vines might be what's bringing her 120 00:05:34,551 --> 00:05:35,483 to this property. 121 00:05:35,485 --> 00:05:37,251 I don't know. 122 00:05:37,253 --> 00:05:40,088 Problem is is that these things go into the house 123 00:05:40,090 --> 00:05:41,289 and affect the living. 124 00:05:41,291 --> 00:05:43,958 They can make them extremely depressed. 125 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:46,328 It's bad, it's bad. 126 00:05:51,301 --> 00:05:52,434 Okay, so what's going on in here? 127 00:05:52,436 --> 00:05:53,901 Lots of dark shadows. 128 00:05:53,903 --> 00:05:56,638 There's one specific that comes to mind. 129 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:59,174 It was like a snake-like figure. 130 00:05:59,176 --> 00:06:00,642 Where exactly was it? 131 00:06:00,644 --> 00:06:03,979 It came from the ceiling and followed me up the stairs, 132 00:06:03,981 --> 00:06:05,580 and then it disappeared. 133 00:06:05,582 --> 00:06:07,282 Okay, so anything else? 134 00:06:07,284 --> 00:06:09,851 Yeah, so I hear running around my bedroom, 135 00:06:09,853 --> 00:06:12,254 running around the hallways, and then also, 136 00:06:12,256 --> 00:06:14,322 footsteps up in the attic. 137 00:06:14,324 --> 00:06:18,493 Tormented me most of my upbringing here. 138 00:06:18,495 --> 00:06:22,564 I would cry myself to sleep a lot of the nights. 139 00:06:22,566 --> 00:06:23,731 Okay, anything else? 140 00:06:23,733 --> 00:06:26,134 Outside of the garage, I saw an apparition 141 00:06:26,136 --> 00:06:29,571 of a young girl wearing all white, and brown hair. 142 00:06:29,573 --> 00:06:33,208 She came off more negative, and almost vengeful. 143 00:06:33,210 --> 00:06:36,010 So this young girl scared you? 144 00:06:36,012 --> 00:06:37,079 Yeah. 145 00:06:37,081 --> 00:06:39,981 It seemed like she could do something to hurt me. 146 00:06:43,753 --> 00:06:47,889 I got a dead little girl between the age of 4 and 5. 147 00:06:47,891 --> 00:06:50,425 She's wearing a little blue and white dress, 148 00:06:50,427 --> 00:06:52,594 white stockings, white shoes. 149 00:06:52,596 --> 00:06:55,096 I don't know what her connection is 150 00:06:55,098 --> 00:06:57,632 to this place specifically. 151 00:06:57,634 --> 00:06:59,968 All I know is that she's here. 152 00:07:01,104 --> 00:07:04,139 Really adorable kid, really cute. 153 00:07:04,141 --> 00:07:06,741 Cutie, but she's not good. 154 00:07:08,312 --> 00:07:12,046 And I saw her transform, and it was bad. 155 00:07:12,048 --> 00:07:15,784 Yeah, this kid is causing all kinds of commotion. 156 00:07:15,786 --> 00:07:17,786 There's always -- she's always running, 157 00:07:17,788 --> 00:07:21,089 she's always on the go, she's always go, go, going. 158 00:07:22,292 --> 00:07:23,925 She's like a little tornado. 159 00:07:23,927 --> 00:07:28,263 I think that they would hear a child running a lot. 160 00:07:28,265 --> 00:07:32,800 She's very hyper kid, and she does a lot of things 161 00:07:32,802 --> 00:07:34,569 that kids would do. 162 00:07:34,571 --> 00:07:38,540 Like this towel, she would pull down, and she bites people. 163 00:07:39,476 --> 00:07:44,846 She's very mean -- biting legs, pulling on people, spazzing. 164 00:07:50,386 --> 00:07:51,586 Talking to your sister, Brittany, earlier, 165 00:07:51,588 --> 00:07:52,721 and she was telling me 166 00:07:52,723 --> 00:07:54,589 how traumatic it was growing up here. 167 00:07:54,591 --> 00:07:57,492 It was very scary, very nerve-wracking. 168 00:07:57,494 --> 00:07:58,860 This is my old room. 169 00:07:58,862 --> 00:08:00,428 It makes me very, very uncomfortable, 170 00:08:00,430 --> 00:08:02,097 and I won't come in here by myself. 171 00:08:02,099 --> 00:08:04,299 Can you tell me about some of the experiences you had? 172 00:08:04,301 --> 00:08:06,134 Probably the scariest thing for me -- 173 00:08:06,136 --> 00:08:09,504 all my drapes started to go up an down at the same time. 174 00:08:09,506 --> 00:08:10,505 Were any windows open? 175 00:08:10,507 --> 00:08:11,840 No. 176 00:08:11,842 --> 00:08:13,275 Now that's like something out of a horror movie? 177 00:08:13,277 --> 00:08:14,109 Yes. 178 00:08:14,111 --> 00:08:15,510 Okay, anything else? 179 00:08:15,512 --> 00:08:17,111 I used to sleep with the radio on 180 00:08:17,113 --> 00:08:18,580 to tune out the noises. 181 00:08:18,582 --> 00:08:22,250 Every night, my radio station would change, 182 00:08:22,252 --> 00:08:24,252 and I'd wake up to ballroom music. 183 00:08:24,254 --> 00:08:26,454 So you go to bed with one station on, wake up to another? 184 00:08:26,456 --> 00:08:28,156 Yep, pretty much. 185 00:08:28,158 --> 00:08:30,058 It was a bad experience. 186 00:08:31,795 --> 00:08:32,928 Boy. 187 00:08:32,930 --> 00:08:35,730 Mostly just the kid in here running amok. 188 00:08:35,732 --> 00:08:41,436 She causes a lot of chaos and physical disturbances, 189 00:08:41,438 --> 00:08:43,205 throughout the house. 190 00:08:43,207 --> 00:08:46,208 I think the kid can play with energy, 191 00:08:46,210 --> 00:08:51,513 so there would be some light issues... 192 00:08:52,782 --> 00:08:55,283 ...television issues, 193 00:08:55,285 --> 00:08:57,552 computer issues down here. 194 00:08:57,554 --> 00:08:59,887 She might mess with the curtains 195 00:08:59,889 --> 00:09:02,724 or the couch or the chair. 196 00:09:02,726 --> 00:09:04,426 She is crazy. 197 00:09:07,564 --> 00:09:09,497 Your sister mentioned to me, that you thought 198 00:09:09,499 --> 00:09:10,898 your mother had a change in her personality. 199 00:09:10,900 --> 00:09:12,067 Can you tell me about that? 200 00:09:12,069 --> 00:09:15,436 She's just more standoffish. She's irritated. 201 00:09:15,438 --> 00:09:17,205 She's short. She's just not the same. 202 00:09:17,207 --> 00:09:19,540 It's not the mom I grew up with. 203 00:09:19,542 --> 00:09:21,376 Do you think it's the paranormal in this house? 204 00:09:21,378 --> 00:09:23,144 I do. It's like they're, like, 205 00:09:23,146 --> 00:09:25,113 sucking the life out of her. 206 00:09:25,115 --> 00:09:26,380 Your sister thinks she's in danger. 207 00:09:26,382 --> 00:09:27,449 What do you think? 208 00:09:27,451 --> 00:09:28,850 I think that something could really, 209 00:09:28,852 --> 00:09:31,218 potentially, hurt her. 210 00:09:31,220 --> 00:09:32,420 Okay. 211 00:09:34,924 --> 00:09:37,592 This little girl is a big problem. 212 00:09:37,594 --> 00:09:40,962 She can be malicious towards the living. 213 00:09:40,964 --> 00:09:44,498 She was trying to bind me with the vines. 214 00:09:44,500 --> 00:09:47,302 I feel like she tries to make people stay here 215 00:09:47,304 --> 00:09:49,937 or not be able to leave here. 216 00:09:50,741 --> 00:09:53,208 And tries to infect them with the vines. 217 00:09:53,210 --> 00:09:56,611 And what would being infected with these vines do? 218 00:09:56,613 --> 00:10:00,015 Could cause somebody to kill themselves 219 00:10:00,017 --> 00:10:01,816 or get sick, I guess. 220 00:10:02,886 --> 00:10:04,085 And then what? 221 00:10:04,087 --> 00:10:05,854 Die? 222 00:10:24,974 --> 00:10:26,408 Well, Tammy, I was talking to 223 00:10:26,410 --> 00:10:28,676 your daughter, Brittany, who asked us to come in, 224 00:10:28,678 --> 00:10:30,612 and she's pretty worried about you. 225 00:10:30,614 --> 00:10:32,747 She thinks you're in danger here. 226 00:10:32,749 --> 00:10:33,748 Do you agree with her? 227 00:10:33,750 --> 00:10:36,217 Yes, it's gotten very bad. 228 00:10:36,219 --> 00:10:37,818 At first, it wasn't that threatening, 229 00:10:37,820 --> 00:10:39,286 but the last few years it's -- 230 00:10:39,288 --> 00:10:41,355 I feel like we're in danger. 231 00:10:41,357 --> 00:10:42,924 Both your daughters gave me a laundry list 232 00:10:42,926 --> 00:10:44,959 of experiences they've had. 233 00:10:44,961 --> 00:10:46,193 Yes. Okay, what about you? 234 00:10:46,195 --> 00:10:48,095 We have a lot of knocking. 235 00:10:48,097 --> 00:10:49,831 It'll sound like it's knocking on doors. 236 00:10:49,833 --> 00:10:51,766 It'll be knocking on walls. 237 00:10:51,768 --> 00:10:54,302 Sometimes it sounds like there's 100 people, 238 00:10:54,304 --> 00:10:56,571 beating on the outside of our house. 239 00:10:57,974 --> 00:10:59,874 What about pipes? No. 240 00:10:59,876 --> 00:11:03,077 I've come down to make sure that's not what it was. 241 00:11:03,079 --> 00:11:04,178 Anything else? 242 00:11:04,180 --> 00:11:06,647 We have constant shadow people. 243 00:11:06,649 --> 00:11:08,516 I see them every day. 244 00:11:08,518 --> 00:11:09,917 Now, Brittany mentioned to me 245 00:11:09,919 --> 00:11:12,921 she sees snake-like shadow figures. 246 00:11:12,923 --> 00:11:13,988 What do you see? 247 00:11:13,990 --> 00:11:15,256 They're dark. 248 00:11:15,258 --> 00:11:17,658 Like a person, but they're spread out. 249 00:11:17,660 --> 00:11:19,560 I see them come down the steps. 250 00:11:19,562 --> 00:11:21,729 They like to go across the ceiling. 251 00:11:21,731 --> 00:11:23,597 And I'll wake up, and they'll be above you, 252 00:11:23,599 --> 00:11:27,268 and it feels like they're trying to suck your breath. 253 00:11:27,270 --> 00:11:28,937 Feels like I can't get any air. 254 00:11:28,939 --> 00:11:30,939 What do you think these things want? 255 00:11:30,941 --> 00:11:32,940 Well, I think they want to kill me. 256 00:11:38,815 --> 00:11:41,082 Feels very oppressive down here. 257 00:11:41,084 --> 00:11:44,519 This is a very painful place to live in physically. 258 00:11:45,488 --> 00:11:47,455 Feels like I'm drowning. 259 00:11:48,725 --> 00:11:51,626 There's a male associated with this space. 260 00:11:51,628 --> 00:11:55,196 He doesn't want to be seen, doesn't want to be known. 261 00:11:58,301 --> 00:12:00,502 Okay, he does do the black mist thing. 262 00:12:00,504 --> 00:12:03,238 People do see a black shadow person down here. 263 00:12:04,508 --> 00:12:06,441 He really does try to push his energy, 264 00:12:06,443 --> 00:12:07,609 and push you out. 265 00:12:07,611 --> 00:12:10,144 People are hearing loud noises down here, 266 00:12:10,146 --> 00:12:12,680 like loud crashes, bangs, whatever. 267 00:12:19,122 --> 00:12:21,689 I feel like he's grabbing the back of my neck, like a doll. 268 00:12:21,691 --> 00:12:24,258 I am in pain. 269 00:12:24,260 --> 00:12:26,193 People would feel him. 270 00:12:26,195 --> 00:12:28,496 I'm feeling like they need to get out of here 271 00:12:28,498 --> 00:12:30,231 as quickly as possible. 272 00:12:37,007 --> 00:12:38,606 Okay, so what's going on up here? 273 00:12:38,608 --> 00:12:40,174 My health has been declining. 274 00:12:40,176 --> 00:12:42,810 I feel pains all across the left side of my body, 275 00:12:42,812 --> 00:12:45,480 in my knee, and in my shoulder, and the back of my neck. 276 00:12:45,482 --> 00:12:47,414 Why do you think your health problems are paranormal? 277 00:12:47,416 --> 00:12:50,618 I've been to the doctor, and the pain that I'm having, 278 00:12:50,620 --> 00:12:54,121 there's no medical issue that goes along with it. 279 00:12:54,123 --> 00:12:55,356 Anything else? 280 00:12:55,358 --> 00:12:57,091 I woke up with a bite mark on my arm. 281 00:12:57,093 --> 00:13:00,094 Okay, your daughter, Brittany, told me about that. 282 00:13:00,096 --> 00:13:02,096 Yes, and I've also woken up with bruises. 283 00:13:02,098 --> 00:13:03,665 I have a picture right here. 284 00:13:05,969 --> 00:13:07,569 I'll wake up, and it's on my limbs. 285 00:13:07,571 --> 00:13:09,237 They're quite large. 286 00:13:09,239 --> 00:13:11,705 Now, these bruises hurt? Yes. 287 00:13:11,707 --> 00:13:13,508 And there's no autoimmune disease problem, or -- 288 00:13:13,510 --> 00:13:15,310 No. Okay. 289 00:13:15,312 --> 00:13:16,978 No. Anything else? 290 00:13:16,980 --> 00:13:19,047 Well, I saw an apparition of a lady 291 00:13:19,049 --> 00:13:20,448 right in the hallway here. 292 00:13:22,418 --> 00:13:23,984 She was in Victorian clothing, 293 00:13:23,986 --> 00:13:26,054 and she was probably, like, about 30 years old. 294 00:13:26,056 --> 00:13:29,323 Did you ever see an apparition like that again? 295 00:13:29,325 --> 00:13:32,459 Yes, I woke up, startled, and it was a lady 296 00:13:32,461 --> 00:13:33,528 floating above me. 297 00:13:33,530 --> 00:13:35,463 She was all white and translucent. 298 00:13:35,465 --> 00:13:37,398 Was it the same lady, though? No. 299 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:39,200 Can you describe the woman you saw above the bed? 300 00:13:39,202 --> 00:13:41,803 Yes. She was probably like, 50s. 301 00:13:41,805 --> 00:13:44,338 And she had all this frizzy hair, 302 00:13:44,340 --> 00:13:46,340 and she was completely white, also. 303 00:13:46,342 --> 00:13:48,142 Do you think she's the one who attacked you? 304 00:13:48,144 --> 00:13:49,410 Yes. 305 00:13:49,412 --> 00:13:52,547 The first lady was peaceful, and this one was evil. 306 00:13:52,549 --> 00:13:53,814 Your daughter Mandy told me 307 00:13:53,816 --> 00:13:55,817 that your personality's changed a little bit. 308 00:13:55,819 --> 00:13:56,651 Do you agree with that? 309 00:13:56,653 --> 00:13:57,885 I would, yeah. 310 00:13:57,887 --> 00:13:59,687 You know, not feeling that great. 311 00:13:59,689 --> 00:14:01,488 I'm really drained all the time. 312 00:14:01,490 --> 00:14:03,358 It's getting worse. 313 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:04,626 This is probably hard for you to hear, 314 00:14:04,628 --> 00:14:07,629 but Brittany was telling me, that she's kind of worried 315 00:14:07,631 --> 00:14:08,896 about bringing her daughter here. 316 00:14:08,898 --> 00:14:10,364 Yeah, that's very painful. 317 00:14:10,366 --> 00:14:12,232 We want to know she's safe when she's here 318 00:14:12,234 --> 00:14:15,236 and not have to worry about anything attacking her 319 00:14:15,238 --> 00:14:17,238 or hurting her, so we went to the best, 320 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:18,840 we went to you guys. 321 00:14:24,380 --> 00:14:27,982 There's a woman who is a raging lunatic. 322 00:14:27,984 --> 00:14:30,418 She's pissed, man. 323 00:14:30,420 --> 00:14:32,319 Does she affect the living in any way? 324 00:14:32,321 --> 00:14:33,655 I'm not sure how they see her. 325 00:14:33,657 --> 00:14:35,789 She doesn't let anybody sleep. 326 00:14:35,791 --> 00:14:38,793 She's trying to talk to people all the time. 327 00:14:38,795 --> 00:14:40,061 Whoa. 328 00:14:40,063 --> 00:14:42,430 She just knocked the...out of me. 329 00:14:44,134 --> 00:14:48,202 So she is extremely physical, and I think she'd hurt them. 330 00:14:48,204 --> 00:14:51,906 Hitting them, choking them, smothering them in their beds. 331 00:14:53,877 --> 00:14:56,544 I would be nervous about kids being around her, too. 332 00:14:56,546 --> 00:14:58,146 I think it would not be good 333 00:14:58,148 --> 00:15:01,182 to have living children around her -- at all. 334 00:15:01,184 --> 00:15:03,751 This dead woman would beat living children. 335 00:15:03,753 --> 00:15:06,788 The other thing she's doing, is draining my energy. 336 00:15:07,157 --> 00:15:10,491 I think living people would probably have nausea, 337 00:15:10,493 --> 00:15:15,263 anxiety, like feel irritable, anxious, sleepy, 338 00:15:15,265 --> 00:15:16,597 things like that. 339 00:15:16,599 --> 00:15:18,900 And she's like, "I want to hate, I want to hurt, 340 00:15:18,902 --> 00:15:20,701 I want to destroy." 341 00:15:38,037 --> 00:15:40,037 Amy and I have already done a few investigations 342 00:15:40,039 --> 00:15:41,673 in this part of Ohio, so I've got a bunch 343 00:15:41,675 --> 00:15:43,341 of local contacts here. 344 00:15:43,343 --> 00:15:45,276 One of them, my old friend Kim Macdonald, 345 00:15:45,278 --> 00:15:48,379 says one of the original owners of the house has a tragic story 346 00:15:48,381 --> 00:15:50,748 that's definitely gonna help my investigation. 347 00:15:55,588 --> 00:15:56,854 Well, Kim, It's good to see you again. 348 00:15:56,856 --> 00:15:59,189 - Good to see you. - So you mentioned on the phone 349 00:15:59,191 --> 00:16:01,392 the Elson family had a pretty tragic story. 350 00:16:01,394 --> 00:16:02,727 What can you tell me about them? 351 00:16:02,729 --> 00:16:07,465 The Elsons, Joseph and Luticia, moved into the area, 352 00:16:07,467 --> 00:16:09,567 with their 12 children in tow. 353 00:16:09,569 --> 00:16:10,801 Wow. 354 00:16:10,803 --> 00:16:14,238 In 1874, they moved into the house 355 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:16,674 that your clients live in right now. 356 00:16:16,676 --> 00:16:18,008 Now, you also mentioned on the phone 357 00:16:18,010 --> 00:16:19,610 that things got bad when they moved here. 358 00:16:19,612 --> 00:16:21,779 What happened? Yes, three years later, 359 00:16:21,781 --> 00:16:28,019 in 1877, their daughter Julia developed a blood infection 360 00:16:28,021 --> 00:16:29,587 and she died. 361 00:16:29,589 --> 00:16:31,122 And how old was she at the time of her death? 362 00:16:31,124 --> 00:16:33,857 She was 33, prime of her life. 363 00:16:33,859 --> 00:16:36,193 Now, Kim, do we have any idea what caused this infection? 364 00:16:36,195 --> 00:16:40,598 All it says on the death record is septicemia and fever. 365 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:44,735 They move there, Julia dies. What happens after that? 366 00:16:44,737 --> 00:16:48,339 Three years after Julia dies, Maggie, 367 00:16:48,341 --> 00:16:50,674 she also comes up with 368 00:16:50,676 --> 00:16:53,877 the very same type of infection, 369 00:16:53,879 --> 00:16:58,449 and Maggie died in February of 1880. 370 00:16:58,451 --> 00:16:59,349 In the house? 371 00:16:59,351 --> 00:17:01,552 In the house. 372 00:17:01,554 --> 00:17:04,455 Here is her death record. 373 00:17:04,891 --> 00:17:06,524 Okay, now, how old was Maggie when she died? 374 00:17:06,526 --> 00:17:08,626 She was 33. 375 00:17:08,628 --> 00:17:11,095 So we got two sisters the same age, 33 years old, 376 00:17:11,097 --> 00:17:13,697 dying of the same disease. 377 00:17:13,699 --> 00:17:14,565 Right. 378 00:17:14,567 --> 00:17:15,900 How'd Luticia take this? 379 00:17:15,902 --> 00:17:18,535 Luticia did not handle it well. 380 00:17:18,537 --> 00:17:20,905 The same year that she lost Maggie, 381 00:17:20,907 --> 00:17:23,708 Luticia's health started to go downhill, 382 00:17:23,710 --> 00:17:26,777 Luticia developed edema, which is like 383 00:17:26,779 --> 00:17:29,046 a swelling under the skin, it's very painful. 384 00:17:29,048 --> 00:17:30,948 Doctor gave her some morphine, 385 00:17:30,950 --> 00:17:33,117 try to ease the pain. 386 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:34,585 She overdosed. 387 00:17:34,587 --> 00:17:38,856 So, November, 1880, 388 00:17:38,858 --> 00:17:41,792 she closed her eyes and never opened them again. 389 00:17:41,794 --> 00:17:43,060 Here's her obituary. 390 00:17:43,062 --> 00:17:46,196 She was 71 when she died. 391 00:17:46,198 --> 00:17:48,666 Luticia's funeral was actually held 392 00:17:48,668 --> 00:17:50,668 in your client's house. 393 00:17:54,807 --> 00:17:59,076 I'm trying to get something on that woman who attacked me. 394 00:17:59,078 --> 00:18:00,578 So she lived here with her husband 395 00:18:00,580 --> 00:18:03,881 who she...hated with...a passion. 396 00:18:03,883 --> 00:18:05,349 This is going back. 397 00:18:05,351 --> 00:18:07,618 I mean, she's talking about 1870s. 398 00:18:07,620 --> 00:18:09,987 She doesn't like children, but she had kids. 399 00:18:13,326 --> 00:18:17,061 I feel like her kids died. 400 00:18:17,063 --> 00:18:20,898 There's been quite a few deaths surrounding her. 401 00:18:20,900 --> 00:18:22,333 Any idea how she died? 402 00:18:22,335 --> 00:18:24,936 I'm seeing a woman falling to the floor. 403 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:30,574 I just feel very sick and light-headed here. 404 00:18:30,576 --> 00:18:31,775 I feel like I'm gonna fall down. 405 00:18:31,777 --> 00:18:35,179 I feel dizzy, I feel weak, I feel heavy. 406 00:18:35,181 --> 00:18:37,848 She took medicine? 407 00:18:37,850 --> 00:18:40,785 Maybe took too much, I don't know. 408 00:18:40,787 --> 00:18:43,454 So far I've got a client worried something's going after 409 00:18:43,456 --> 00:18:46,724 her mom on a property where one of the original owners 410 00:18:46,726 --> 00:18:49,260 suffered several tragic deaths. 411 00:18:49,262 --> 00:18:51,395 But I want to see if there's anything else. 412 00:18:51,397 --> 00:18:54,798 Searching through old records, I come across Hudson Tuttle. 413 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:56,600 Turns out Tuttle claimed to be a medium 414 00:18:56,602 --> 00:18:59,270 and lived right down the street from Tammy's property. 415 00:19:00,139 --> 00:19:02,139 I'm heading over to meet with a local historian 416 00:19:02,141 --> 00:19:04,775 who says this Tuttle guy was a real piece of work. 417 00:19:11,017 --> 00:19:12,483 Mary, thanks for meeting me. 418 00:19:12,485 --> 00:19:15,052 So, what'd you find out about Hudson Tuttle? 419 00:19:15,054 --> 00:19:18,756 He was born in Berlin Heights in 1836. 420 00:19:18,758 --> 00:19:20,691 When he was just 19 years old, 421 00:19:20,693 --> 00:19:23,094 he wrote a book on psychic phenomenon. 422 00:19:23,096 --> 00:19:26,029 He became well-known as a medium, 423 00:19:26,031 --> 00:19:29,300 not just in the town, but all over the world. 424 00:19:29,302 --> 00:19:31,234 Was he very active in this town? 425 00:19:31,236 --> 00:19:35,506 Yes, he went around town and held seances. 426 00:19:35,508 --> 00:19:38,175 Tuttle wanted to help other people, 427 00:19:38,177 --> 00:19:40,043 to communicate with the dead. 428 00:19:40,045 --> 00:19:42,913 So he actually invented something 429 00:19:42,915 --> 00:19:44,715 that was similar to a Ouija board, 430 00:19:44,717 --> 00:19:46,684 and it's called the psychograph. 431 00:19:46,686 --> 00:19:50,654 And it was a device used to communicate with the dead. 432 00:19:50,656 --> 00:19:51,656 Of course, then they used them 433 00:19:51,658 --> 00:19:54,191 all over the area of Berlin Heights. 434 00:19:54,193 --> 00:19:56,327 People had them in their home. 435 00:19:56,329 --> 00:19:57,595 You know, so working with Amy, 436 00:19:57,597 --> 00:20:00,464 I know that doing that Ouija board stuff 437 00:20:00,466 --> 00:20:02,866 in one house is bad enough, 438 00:20:02,868 --> 00:20:06,537 but if he's doing it throughout the whole town, 439 00:20:06,539 --> 00:20:07,804 that can't be good. 440 00:20:07,806 --> 00:20:09,073 It might be a stab in the dark, 441 00:20:09,075 --> 00:20:11,008 but the Elson family lived down the street 442 00:20:11,010 --> 00:20:13,143 in my client's house around that time. 443 00:20:13,145 --> 00:20:14,612 Any idea if he knew them? 444 00:20:14,614 --> 00:20:16,547 Yes, he knew the Elsons, 445 00:20:16,549 --> 00:20:18,816 and he must have known them pretty well 446 00:20:18,818 --> 00:20:21,819 because I found this article. 447 00:20:21,821 --> 00:20:26,223 When the Elson's daughter Maggie died in 1880, 448 00:20:26,225 --> 00:20:28,326 he conducted the funeral services. 449 00:20:28,328 --> 00:20:29,693 He did the funeral service? 450 00:20:29,695 --> 00:20:32,830 Yes, and he was very close to the family. 451 00:20:32,832 --> 00:20:34,031 Any chance that the Elsons 452 00:20:34,033 --> 00:20:35,499 would have had something like psychographs? 453 00:20:35,501 --> 00:20:37,701 I would say it's a high probability 454 00:20:37,703 --> 00:20:39,036 that they did have one. 455 00:20:39,038 --> 00:20:40,237 So whatever happened with him? 456 00:20:40,239 --> 00:20:42,639 Hudson Tuttle, he stayed in Berlin Heights. 457 00:20:42,641 --> 00:20:44,108 He lived there his whole life, 458 00:20:44,110 --> 00:20:48,512 and he died of kidney disease, nephritis, in 1910, 459 00:20:48,514 --> 00:20:51,448 when he was 74 years old. 460 00:20:51,450 --> 00:20:53,917 And the interesting thing is that he's buried 461 00:20:53,919 --> 00:20:57,221 just about 100 yards from your client's property. 462 00:20:59,192 --> 00:21:01,992 There's an old man, white beard, mustache, 463 00:21:01,994 --> 00:21:05,429 tall and thin, pale, age 65. 464 00:21:05,431 --> 00:21:07,597 Like, I feel like maybe he was born here, 465 00:21:07,599 --> 00:21:10,167 and that evil got right into him right away. 466 00:21:13,739 --> 00:21:16,640 I wonder if those vines made him turn bad. 467 00:21:16,642 --> 00:21:21,545 Just that the vines extend very far. 468 00:21:24,283 --> 00:21:27,351 And I'm afraid that they can kill. 469 00:21:34,026 --> 00:21:36,227 For more information about the show, 470 00:21:36,229 --> 00:21:37,695 and if you need us to investigate 471 00:21:37,697 --> 00:21:39,362 unexplained activity in your home... 472 00:21:39,364 --> 00:21:42,967 Please visit TravelChannel.com/TheDeadFiles. 473 00:21:42,969 --> 00:21:44,301 Click on "Help Me, Dead Files!" 474 00:21:44,303 --> 00:21:45,870 to submit your story, and we'll help if we can. 475 00:21:53,229 --> 00:21:55,796 You know, another thing caught my attention in research. 476 00:21:55,798 --> 00:21:58,632 There used to be a cult near the house that Brittany grew up in, 477 00:21:58,634 --> 00:22:01,201 and one of its members killed himself right on the grounds. 478 00:22:01,203 --> 00:22:02,603 So I'm heading over to meet my old buddy, 479 00:22:02,605 --> 00:22:04,471 retired detective, Tom Armelli, 480 00:22:04,473 --> 00:22:06,740 who's looking into this case for me. 481 00:22:13,715 --> 00:22:15,149 I know this kid committed suicide 482 00:22:15,151 --> 00:22:16,683 right near my client's property, 483 00:22:16,685 --> 00:22:19,386 but before we get to that, what do you know about this kid? 484 00:22:19,388 --> 00:22:21,121 Well, his name was Charles Latcha. 485 00:22:21,123 --> 00:22:22,456 He was 19 years old. 486 00:22:22,458 --> 00:22:23,791 He comes to Berlin Heights 487 00:22:23,793 --> 00:22:26,460 to join this free-love commune. 488 00:22:26,462 --> 00:22:29,396 That sounds like some kind of "woo-woo" crap. 489 00:22:29,398 --> 00:22:31,932 How close was this place to my client's property? 490 00:22:31,934 --> 00:22:33,133 It's probably about 800 feet 491 00:22:33,135 --> 00:22:36,036 from the property that you're looking at. 492 00:22:36,038 --> 00:22:37,805 What happens with this kid Charles? 493 00:22:37,807 --> 00:22:40,674 Charles Latcha was a printer by trade, 494 00:22:40,676 --> 00:22:42,143 and when he came to the commune, 495 00:22:42,145 --> 00:22:43,811 they appointed him to be in charge 496 00:22:43,813 --> 00:22:44,744 of their newspaper. 497 00:22:44,746 --> 00:22:46,013 What was this group all about? 498 00:22:46,015 --> 00:22:48,282 They gave up all their worldly possessions, 499 00:22:48,284 --> 00:22:50,084 they disavowed their marriages. 500 00:22:50,086 --> 00:22:52,653 The place became a magnet for single women, 501 00:22:52,655 --> 00:22:55,055 widows, divorcees, and the like. 502 00:22:55,057 --> 00:22:57,091 It was more or less like a hippie commune 503 00:22:57,093 --> 00:22:58,792 of this time period. 504 00:22:58,794 --> 00:22:59,927 Sounds like a cult. 505 00:22:59,929 --> 00:23:01,228 By today's definitions, 506 00:23:01,230 --> 00:23:02,929 that's probably exactly what it was. 507 00:23:02,931 --> 00:23:05,900 Did the community buy into this? 508 00:23:05,902 --> 00:23:07,901 The Berlin Heights residents did not take kindly 509 00:23:07,903 --> 00:23:10,938 to this group of free-lovers living in their town. 510 00:23:10,940 --> 00:23:12,773 One of the things they did was they attacked 511 00:23:12,775 --> 00:23:14,374 the wagons that were delivering the newspapers, 512 00:23:14,376 --> 00:23:15,576 that Latcha had printed. 513 00:23:15,578 --> 00:23:18,112 They wouldn't allow the free-lovers' kids 514 00:23:18,114 --> 00:23:19,779 to attend school in Berlin Heights. 515 00:23:19,781 --> 00:23:21,014 There actually came a point in time 516 00:23:21,016 --> 00:23:23,116 where the sheriff did make several arrests 517 00:23:23,118 --> 00:23:25,452 and charged some of the free-lovers 518 00:23:25,454 --> 00:23:28,656 with various sex-related crimes. 519 00:23:28,658 --> 00:23:30,724 They were all eventually released with the agreement 520 00:23:30,726 --> 00:23:33,127 that they would leave the county and not come back. 521 00:23:33,129 --> 00:23:35,128 From this point on, the commune dwindled down 522 00:23:35,130 --> 00:23:36,830 to very few members, 523 00:23:36,832 --> 00:23:38,932 Charles being one of the last holdouts. 524 00:23:38,934 --> 00:23:41,068 Most of the community is gone, but Charles stayed behind. 525 00:23:41,070 --> 00:23:42,403 What happened? 526 00:23:42,405 --> 00:23:45,539 On June 22nd, 1858, Charles obtains a gun. 527 00:23:45,541 --> 00:23:47,107 After he penned his suicide note, 528 00:23:47,109 --> 00:23:50,277 he shot himself in the chest at his print shop. 529 00:23:50,279 --> 00:23:52,079 There were witnesses there that I was able 530 00:23:52,081 --> 00:23:53,547 to communicate with, and at the time, 531 00:23:53,549 --> 00:23:55,549 he was very upset, he was cursing God, 532 00:23:55,551 --> 00:23:58,218 cursing marriage, cursing the whole free-love commune, 533 00:23:58,220 --> 00:24:00,287 and that was the end. 534 00:24:00,289 --> 00:24:02,623 Here's a copy of Charles's suicide note 535 00:24:02,625 --> 00:24:07,761 that he printed in the free-love newspaper. 536 00:24:07,763 --> 00:24:10,464 Wow, he went out really bitter 537 00:24:10,466 --> 00:24:11,331 about the whole thing. 538 00:24:11,333 --> 00:24:12,600 Yes. 539 00:24:16,038 --> 00:24:19,240 These vines affect the living in horrible ways. 540 00:24:19,242 --> 00:24:21,341 And I know that vines carry heavy depression, 541 00:24:21,343 --> 00:24:24,178 so it could cause somebody to kill themselves. 542 00:24:26,749 --> 00:24:30,584 I'm thinking this may have happened to a male nearby. 543 00:24:30,586 --> 00:24:34,054 He says, "It doesn't matter, I didn't matter, 544 00:24:34,056 --> 00:24:37,725 nothing matters," and, um... 545 00:24:40,129 --> 00:24:43,063 I see a shotgun. 546 00:24:43,065 --> 00:24:45,065 It's very graphic, it's bad. 547 00:24:45,067 --> 00:24:47,434 It's just, blech. 548 00:24:56,812 --> 00:24:58,412 I saw several disturbing things 549 00:24:58,414 --> 00:25:01,415 during my walk, but two stood out. 550 00:25:01,417 --> 00:25:04,451 First, the vines that turn people evil. 551 00:25:04,453 --> 00:25:07,354 They're thicker, almost like arteries. 552 00:25:07,356 --> 00:25:10,424 They're all over the ground, alive, 553 00:25:10,426 --> 00:25:13,360 but melded with the house. 554 00:25:13,362 --> 00:25:14,361 Okay. 555 00:25:14,363 --> 00:25:16,563 Next I described the psycho woman 556 00:25:16,565 --> 00:25:19,867 beating a living person in a bedroom upstairs. 557 00:25:20,369 --> 00:25:23,504 There was a female in the bed, scared, 558 00:25:23,506 --> 00:25:26,106 trying to pretend that this is not happening. 559 00:25:26,108 --> 00:25:30,176 Behind her is this dead woman 560 00:25:30,178 --> 00:25:34,615 who has extremely long brown hair, and she has no face. 561 00:25:43,258 --> 00:25:45,325 Amy, is this what you saw? 562 00:25:45,327 --> 00:25:47,127 Yes, that's what I saw. 563 00:26:06,264 --> 00:26:09,099 Now that Amy and I have completed our investigations, 564 00:26:09,101 --> 00:26:11,568 we're ready to reveal our findings to each other 565 00:26:11,570 --> 00:26:13,837 and our clients for the first time. 566 00:26:14,940 --> 00:26:18,275 Well, Amy, this is Brittany and her mother Tammy. 567 00:26:18,277 --> 00:26:19,843 Now, Brittany grew up in this house, 568 00:26:19,845 --> 00:26:21,912 and she says the paranormal activity here 569 00:26:21,914 --> 00:26:24,515 made her childhood a living hell. 570 00:26:24,517 --> 00:26:27,351 She called us in because now that she's moved out, 571 00:26:27,353 --> 00:26:29,486 whatever's here is going after her mom. 572 00:26:29,488 --> 00:26:31,254 Both of them are convinced it's dangerous, 573 00:26:31,256 --> 00:26:32,923 and if you can't find a way to fix it, 574 00:26:32,925 --> 00:26:34,791 Tammy's going to wind up seriously hurt 575 00:26:34,793 --> 00:26:36,927 or, God forbid, dead. 576 00:26:36,929 --> 00:26:38,795 Now that Amy knows a little bit about you guys, 577 00:26:38,797 --> 00:26:41,098 I'm gonna ask her to describe her walk for us. 578 00:26:43,970 --> 00:26:48,238 When I got here, I saw a male who committed suicide. 579 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:51,641 I heard a gunshot, and I heard this male saying, 580 00:26:51,643 --> 00:26:54,812 "Nothing matters, I don't matter." 581 00:26:54,814 --> 00:26:56,913 And that was in the backyard area. 582 00:26:56,915 --> 00:26:59,850 Later on, I walked down into the basement 583 00:26:59,852 --> 00:27:02,619 and I ran into the same dead male. 584 00:27:02,621 --> 00:27:05,388 Boy, was he pissed. 585 00:27:05,390 --> 00:27:09,226 I could not get anything, history-wise, 586 00:27:09,228 --> 00:27:15,199 concerning this male because he did not want me down there. 587 00:27:16,601 --> 00:27:18,268 There was a pretty interesting suicide 588 00:27:18,270 --> 00:27:19,536 right near here, actually. 589 00:27:19,538 --> 00:27:21,104 The guy who killed himself was a 19-year-old 590 00:27:21,106 --> 00:27:22,572 named Charles Latcha. 591 00:27:22,574 --> 00:27:24,908 Charles came to Berlin Heights to join the cult 592 00:27:24,910 --> 00:27:27,377 the free-love commune in the 1850s. 593 00:27:27,379 --> 00:27:29,646 Now, the commune bought up about 90 acres in town 594 00:27:29,648 --> 00:27:32,983 and set up their headquarters just about 800 feet from here. 595 00:27:32,985 --> 00:27:35,585 Now, back in that time, this area was pretty religious. 596 00:27:35,587 --> 00:27:37,320 People didn't like what was going on, 597 00:27:37,322 --> 00:27:39,056 so them, along with the sheriff, wind up 598 00:27:39,058 --> 00:27:41,525 running most of the cult members out of town. 599 00:27:41,527 --> 00:27:44,061 Latcha was pretty broken up about the cult falling apart 600 00:27:44,063 --> 00:27:45,195 because it's all he had, 601 00:27:45,197 --> 00:27:46,730 and he fell into a serious depression. 602 00:27:46,732 --> 00:27:51,268 Now, on June 22, 1858, he shot himself in the chest. 603 00:27:51,270 --> 00:27:53,236 Okay, I got a suicide note here. 604 00:27:53,238 --> 00:27:55,338 It's tough to read, but basically in the note, 605 00:27:55,340 --> 00:27:57,207 he talked about how much he hated marriage, 606 00:27:57,209 --> 00:27:58,542 and everything else for that matter. 607 00:27:58,544 --> 00:28:00,744 Wow. 608 00:28:00,746 --> 00:28:03,012 Can he interact with the living at all? 609 00:28:03,014 --> 00:28:06,483 Yes. His energy is extremely consuming. 610 00:28:06,485 --> 00:28:08,952 If he's around, then you're feeling 611 00:28:08,954 --> 00:28:11,989 the anxiety and the need to get the hell out of there 612 00:28:11,991 --> 00:28:13,356 as quickly as possible. 613 00:28:13,358 --> 00:28:15,025 The other thing that he likes to do 614 00:28:15,027 --> 00:28:17,027 is to make a lot of noise. 615 00:28:17,029 --> 00:28:19,563 So you hear loud banging, crashing sounds. 616 00:28:19,565 --> 00:28:21,932 He can get physical with the living. 617 00:28:21,934 --> 00:28:24,000 He got me from behind, 618 00:28:24,002 --> 00:28:27,438 just grabbed my neck and was squeezing super hard. 619 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,038 I think the living would experience 620 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,041 neck pain from him. 621 00:28:31,043 --> 00:28:32,976 Do you think it has to do with 622 00:28:32,978 --> 00:28:34,611 my neck pain that I always have? 623 00:28:34,613 --> 00:28:36,246 Yeah, definitely. 624 00:28:36,248 --> 00:28:37,647 Tammy, do me a favor. 625 00:28:37,649 --> 00:28:39,783 Tell Amy about the banging and knocking sounds you hear. 626 00:28:39,785 --> 00:28:40,851 It's very scary. 627 00:28:40,853 --> 00:28:42,719 It's usually down, like, underneath 628 00:28:42,721 --> 00:28:46,557 the step area, is where it's intense. 629 00:28:46,559 --> 00:28:48,926 Growing up, we used to always run up there 630 00:28:48,928 --> 00:28:51,528 feeling like something's gonna grab you. 631 00:28:53,933 --> 00:28:57,267 - So what else? - There's this little girl 632 00:28:57,269 --> 00:28:58,802 from hell. 633 00:28:58,804 --> 00:29:03,407 She's definitely one of the most active dead people here. 634 00:29:04,609 --> 00:29:06,643 She's about 4 or 5 years old. 635 00:29:06,645 --> 00:29:08,879 I saw her wearing, like, a little blue dress, 636 00:29:08,881 --> 00:29:10,480 little pig tails. 637 00:29:10,482 --> 00:29:14,651 She looks innocent, but she has an evil element to her. 638 00:29:14,653 --> 00:29:17,353 She has a lot of energy. 639 00:29:17,756 --> 00:29:20,591 She's like a little tornado, constantly running. 640 00:29:20,593 --> 00:29:22,159 Running, running, running like a maniac. 641 00:29:22,161 --> 00:29:24,561 Yes. Yeah, running up and down 642 00:29:24,563 --> 00:29:26,163 the stairs, around the room. 643 00:29:26,165 --> 00:29:27,698 Interesting. 644 00:29:27,700 --> 00:29:29,566 She likes to grab and pull on things 645 00:29:29,568 --> 00:29:31,235 that are within her reach, 646 00:29:31,237 --> 00:29:33,570 and also she'll affect electronics -- 647 00:29:33,572 --> 00:29:37,040 TVs, radios, lights, things like that. 648 00:29:37,042 --> 00:29:39,509 She can get really physical with the living, 649 00:29:39,511 --> 00:29:41,712 and one of the things she kept doing to me was 650 00:29:41,714 --> 00:29:43,780 punching my kidneys and stuff, 651 00:29:43,782 --> 00:29:45,649 just punch, punch, punch, punch, punch. 652 00:29:45,651 --> 00:29:48,919 So I think that people would have lower back pain. 653 00:29:48,921 --> 00:29:50,387 Well, some of the experiences you're talking about 654 00:29:50,389 --> 00:29:51,788 these guys have been having. 655 00:29:51,790 --> 00:29:53,390 Brittney, talk about the little girl you saw 656 00:29:53,392 --> 00:29:54,725 you told me about. 657 00:29:54,727 --> 00:29:58,061 The little girl we saw was outside of the garage, 658 00:29:58,063 --> 00:30:00,230 and she was wearing a white gown, 659 00:30:00,232 --> 00:30:01,665 and brown hair. 660 00:30:01,667 --> 00:30:03,366 Amy, Brittney's sister, Mandy, 661 00:30:03,368 --> 00:30:04,568 told me that her radio stations 662 00:30:04,570 --> 00:30:06,203 used to get changed randomly. 663 00:30:06,205 --> 00:30:08,805 They'd randomly change from 664 00:30:08,807 --> 00:30:11,341 alternative rock to what sounds like 665 00:30:11,343 --> 00:30:15,012 what you'd be in the elevator listening to. 666 00:30:15,014 --> 00:30:16,613 Wow. 667 00:30:16,615 --> 00:30:18,015 Mandy also had an experience with the drapes 668 00:30:18,017 --> 00:30:19,783 going up and down in her bedroom. 669 00:30:19,785 --> 00:30:21,018 Would that be this kid? Yeah. 670 00:30:21,020 --> 00:30:22,119 Wow. 671 00:30:26,491 --> 00:30:31,161 So now I'm upstairs, and I ran into a dead woman. 672 00:30:31,163 --> 00:30:33,363 What I got with her is that she lived here 673 00:30:33,365 --> 00:30:35,465 with her husband and her children. 674 00:30:35,467 --> 00:30:37,601 She looked very well dressed, 675 00:30:37,603 --> 00:30:41,705 very well put together, but she's nasty. 676 00:30:41,707 --> 00:30:44,608 This was between 1860-1870. 677 00:30:44,610 --> 00:30:47,511 She is mentally unstable. 678 00:30:47,513 --> 00:30:52,715 She hated her husband and their children. 679 00:30:52,717 --> 00:30:54,952 She doesn't like children, but she had kids. 680 00:30:57,790 --> 00:31:01,825 I feel like her kids died. 681 00:31:01,827 --> 00:31:05,229 There's been quite a few deaths surrounding her. 682 00:31:05,231 --> 00:31:06,997 Also, she either killed herself 683 00:31:06,999 --> 00:31:09,666 or she wanted to kill herself. 684 00:31:09,668 --> 00:31:12,035 It's not much to go on, but based on the time period 685 00:31:12,037 --> 00:31:13,737 I have an idea of who you might've seen. 686 00:31:13,739 --> 00:31:15,739 Now, her name was Luticia Elson. 687 00:31:15,741 --> 00:31:17,074 She and her husband Joseph 688 00:31:17,076 --> 00:31:19,743 bought and moved into this house in 1874. 689 00:31:19,745 --> 00:31:21,011 Now, they were both farmers 690 00:31:21,013 --> 00:31:22,279 and raised 12 children together. 691 00:31:22,281 --> 00:31:23,947 Holy... 692 00:31:23,949 --> 00:31:26,182 I don't know anything about Luticia 693 00:31:26,184 --> 00:31:28,451 hating her kids, but her times in the house 694 00:31:28,453 --> 00:31:29,753 were hard, I can tell you that much. 695 00:31:29,755 --> 00:31:32,222 In 1877, her adult daughter Julia 696 00:31:32,224 --> 00:31:33,556 died from a blood infection. 697 00:31:33,558 --> 00:31:35,225 She was 33 years old. 698 00:31:35,227 --> 00:31:38,662 I got her death record. 699 00:31:38,664 --> 00:31:40,596 Now, just three years after that, 700 00:31:40,598 --> 00:31:43,633 Luticia's daughter Maggie got sick with a similar infection. 701 00:31:43,635 --> 00:31:45,936 She died right here in the house in 1880. 702 00:31:47,305 --> 00:31:48,905 Just three years later. How old was she? 703 00:31:48,907 --> 00:31:50,340 33. 704 00:31:50,342 --> 00:31:51,508 Interesting. 705 00:31:51,510 --> 00:31:53,643 I go there death record here, as well. 706 00:31:53,645 --> 00:31:54,778 You can imagine it's pretty devastating 707 00:31:54,780 --> 00:31:56,546 for a mother to lose two kids. 708 00:31:56,548 --> 00:31:59,283 Not long after Maggie died, Luticia's health went bad. 709 00:31:59,285 --> 00:32:02,452 Luticia suffered from edema, which is a very painful thing 710 00:32:02,454 --> 00:32:04,854 that makes the body tissues swell. 711 00:32:04,856 --> 00:32:07,490 The doctor gave her morphine to ease her pain. 712 00:32:07,492 --> 00:32:10,627 Now, at some point, she overdosed on morphine and died. 713 00:32:10,629 --> 00:32:13,563 She died here when she was 71 years old. 714 00:32:13,565 --> 00:32:15,866 This is the record about her death. 715 00:32:15,868 --> 00:32:19,136 Luticia's funeral was also held here in the house in 1880. 716 00:32:19,138 --> 00:32:21,004 Is it even possible that's who you saw? 717 00:32:21,006 --> 00:32:23,440 I'm leaning more towards maybe one of her daughters 718 00:32:23,442 --> 00:32:28,745 because this woman hated children. 719 00:32:28,747 --> 00:32:29,846 Hated them. 720 00:32:29,848 --> 00:32:32,516 She still hates them. 721 00:32:32,518 --> 00:32:34,050 Maggie had no kids. 722 00:32:34,052 --> 00:32:36,887 Well, that would make sense. 723 00:32:36,889 --> 00:32:38,821 Does she do anything to these guys? 724 00:32:38,823 --> 00:32:40,023 Yes. 725 00:32:40,025 --> 00:32:41,691 Her energy is extremely intense 726 00:32:41,693 --> 00:32:43,026 and very overwhelming. 727 00:32:43,028 --> 00:32:45,429 Being around her upstairs you would feel 728 00:32:45,431 --> 00:32:48,498 extremely anxious, irritable, and nauseous. 729 00:32:48,500 --> 00:32:51,101 She drains you, so she can drain you like that. 730 00:32:52,304 --> 00:32:54,270 I don't feel like I ever get to sleep 731 00:32:54,272 --> 00:32:56,639 because I'm drained all the time. 732 00:32:56,641 --> 00:32:59,576 The other thing that she does, 733 00:32:59,578 --> 00:33:01,511 possibly you would see her, 734 00:33:01,513 --> 00:33:03,013 and I saw a younger woman. 735 00:33:03,015 --> 00:33:04,514 I would put her -- 736 00:33:04,516 --> 00:33:07,584 I would've put her in her 20s or 30s. 737 00:33:07,586 --> 00:33:10,920 The thing that really bothered me about her 738 00:33:10,922 --> 00:33:13,323 is that she can be extremely physical, 739 00:33:13,325 --> 00:33:15,392 and that gets down to hitting, choking, 740 00:33:15,394 --> 00:33:18,161 and attacking the living in your bed. 741 00:33:18,163 --> 00:33:20,730 I saw an apparition of a young lady. 742 00:33:20,732 --> 00:33:25,268 She was, like, 20, in a Victorian dress. 743 00:33:25,270 --> 00:33:27,070 But at the time, to me, it was peaceful. 744 00:33:27,072 --> 00:33:28,738 It didn't scare me. 745 00:33:28,740 --> 00:33:30,873 And then I woke up startled, 746 00:33:30,875 --> 00:33:33,142 and there was a lady above me 747 00:33:33,144 --> 00:33:37,214 and she was all white with all this frizzy hair, 748 00:33:37,216 --> 00:33:41,284 and when I got up, I had a bite mark on my arm. 749 00:33:41,286 --> 00:33:43,353 She was older, she was like 50s. 750 00:33:43,355 --> 00:33:44,888 Interesting. 751 00:33:44,890 --> 00:33:48,658 Now, I got a photo of the bite mark right here. 752 00:33:48,660 --> 00:33:50,660 Aw, geez. 753 00:33:51,763 --> 00:33:54,164 She also wakes up with bruises. 754 00:33:54,166 --> 00:33:55,498 Okay. 755 00:33:55,500 --> 00:33:57,434 All right, so this bite, the bruise, 756 00:33:57,436 --> 00:33:59,502 and feeling drained, is this all from 757 00:33:59,504 --> 00:34:00,737 this woman you're talking about? 758 00:34:00,739 --> 00:34:01,605 Yeah. 759 00:34:03,375 --> 00:34:08,111 I'm gonna show you something that I saw in a sketch. 760 00:34:12,317 --> 00:34:14,117 Geez. 761 00:34:17,723 --> 00:34:19,256 My God. 762 00:34:24,329 --> 00:34:28,164 Then there's two ladies after me in bed? 763 00:34:28,166 --> 00:34:30,267 No, there's just one, 764 00:34:30,269 --> 00:34:33,403 but she can shift her image to look like her. 765 00:34:33,405 --> 00:34:35,138 She borrows images. 766 00:34:35,140 --> 00:34:39,709 So it's the same woman you saw in two different forms. 767 00:34:42,614 --> 00:34:44,347 I got to ask you, you called us in because 768 00:34:44,349 --> 00:34:45,382 you were worried about your mom. 769 00:34:45,384 --> 00:34:46,549 When you see this, 770 00:34:46,551 --> 00:34:47,817 I mean, what's going through your mind? 771 00:34:47,819 --> 00:34:49,152 It's horrible. 772 00:34:49,154 --> 00:34:50,554 I don't want her to be hurt. 773 00:34:50,556 --> 00:34:53,690 And because this woman hated kids so much, 774 00:34:53,692 --> 00:34:55,892 I don't think this is a safe environment 775 00:34:55,894 --> 00:34:58,228 for children at all. 776 00:34:58,230 --> 00:35:00,129 I have a young daughter. 777 00:35:00,131 --> 00:35:02,699 At a loss of words, if I'm honest. 778 00:35:04,970 --> 00:35:08,572 Now I'm gonna talk about the biggest threat. 779 00:35:09,808 --> 00:35:11,607 So I'm out in the backyard, 780 00:35:11,609 --> 00:35:14,677 and what I see are these, like, vines. 781 00:35:14,679 --> 00:35:17,314 They were dark black, and they were coming 782 00:35:17,316 --> 00:35:21,117 out of the ground and engulfing the house. 783 00:35:21,119 --> 00:35:22,853 What worries me about these vines 784 00:35:22,855 --> 00:35:25,589 is they can spread depression and anger. 785 00:35:25,591 --> 00:35:26,789 You guys felt any of that? 786 00:35:26,791 --> 00:35:29,525 I've felt sadness before, randomly. 787 00:35:29,527 --> 00:35:32,695 Yeah, you can feel emotions that don't make sense. 788 00:35:32,697 --> 00:35:34,664 It's not what you're really feeling. 789 00:35:34,666 --> 00:35:37,267 I don't know if you guys would actually 790 00:35:37,269 --> 00:35:40,670 see these vines, but I did have 791 00:35:40,672 --> 00:35:43,273 a sketch done of what I saw. 792 00:35:59,024 --> 00:36:02,759 Is there any way that they can come inside? 793 00:36:03,695 --> 00:36:05,161 Yes. 794 00:36:06,665 --> 00:36:08,698 I think I know why Brittney's asking you this question, 795 00:36:08,700 --> 00:36:11,234 because of what we talked about, what you saw inside the house. 796 00:36:11,236 --> 00:36:14,571 So, we always refer to them as "dark shadows." 797 00:36:15,507 --> 00:36:16,973 Because they're like a snake 798 00:36:16,975 --> 00:36:18,842 and they'll go around the ceilings 799 00:36:18,844 --> 00:36:20,577 and up the walls. Wow. 800 00:36:20,579 --> 00:36:24,981 I see them pretty much every day now during the day. 801 00:36:24,983 --> 00:36:27,651 Now the shadows they're seeing, are those these vines? 802 00:36:27,653 --> 00:36:29,986 Yeah, I think so. 803 00:36:31,657 --> 00:36:34,391 So the vines that are coming 804 00:36:34,393 --> 00:36:37,994 into the house can carry negative energy 805 00:36:37,996 --> 00:36:39,395 and emotions with them, 806 00:36:39,397 --> 00:36:45,101 and can negatively affect the living people inside. 807 00:36:45,937 --> 00:36:48,504 If you're exposed too long to the vines, 808 00:36:48,506 --> 00:36:51,708 I think you would experience suicidal thoughts, 809 00:36:51,710 --> 00:36:54,277 a change in personality, anger. 810 00:36:54,279 --> 00:36:56,012 So, Amy, that's one of the biggest 811 00:36:56,014 --> 00:36:57,280 reasons we're here. 812 00:36:57,282 --> 00:36:59,215 Tammy, when I talked to your daughter Mandy, 813 00:36:59,217 --> 00:37:01,617 she mentioned she noticed a change in you. 814 00:37:04,255 --> 00:37:05,621 That I was getting a little bit short, 815 00:37:05,623 --> 00:37:06,823 a little impatient. 816 00:37:06,825 --> 00:37:08,758 So, could that be from the vines? 817 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:10,860 Yes. 818 00:37:10,862 --> 00:37:14,030 So the worst case is that you 819 00:37:14,032 --> 00:37:17,367 are infected by them, i.e. becoming ill 820 00:37:17,369 --> 00:37:19,703 and dying from them. 821 00:37:19,705 --> 00:37:23,739 I'm really surprised at what this really is, 822 00:37:23,741 --> 00:37:25,842 'cause I thought for sure it was, you know, 823 00:37:25,844 --> 00:37:28,244 shadow people and real demons, 824 00:37:28,246 --> 00:37:29,779 so this is kind of better. 825 00:37:29,781 --> 00:37:31,181 I mean. 826 00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:36,786 It's not good. 827 00:37:36,788 --> 00:37:39,122 You've got, like, one woman who's getting you 828 00:37:39,124 --> 00:37:42,192 in these vines that can kill people. 829 00:37:42,194 --> 00:37:46,796 Brute downstairs that can cause you physical pain. 830 00:37:46,798 --> 00:37:49,065 But you think it's not bad. 831 00:37:50,335 --> 00:37:52,802 You think it's better than what it was gonna be, 832 00:37:52,804 --> 00:37:56,305 and there's someone trying to kill you. 833 00:37:56,307 --> 00:37:58,474 It doesn't make sense. 834 00:38:15,110 --> 00:38:17,110 So, Brittney, you called us in because you thought 835 00:38:17,112 --> 00:38:18,979 your mother was in danger. 836 00:38:18,981 --> 00:38:21,314 Now it's time to address the question you called us in for. 837 00:38:21,316 --> 00:38:23,516 Is it going to be safe for your mom to stay here, 838 00:38:23,518 --> 00:38:24,818 or should she just pack up 839 00:38:24,820 --> 00:38:26,652 and get the hell out while she can? 840 00:38:26,654 --> 00:38:28,722 For that answer, I'm gonna turn it over to Amy. 841 00:38:32,694 --> 00:38:35,362 You can stay. 842 00:38:35,364 --> 00:38:37,263 But there are quite a few things 843 00:38:37,265 --> 00:38:38,631 that you need to do. 844 00:38:38,633 --> 00:38:41,201 First, get a physical medium. 845 00:38:41,203 --> 00:38:45,104 This medium needs to come in and remove Maggie, 846 00:38:45,106 --> 00:38:47,040 the woman upstairs. 847 00:38:47,042 --> 00:38:49,175 The woman who died at 33 in the house? 848 00:38:49,177 --> 00:38:50,844 Correct. Okay. 849 00:38:50,846 --> 00:38:53,046 Now this is gonna be unusual, 850 00:38:53,048 --> 00:38:54,780 but what I would like you to do 851 00:38:54,782 --> 00:38:59,219 is to get an audience together for her, 852 00:38:59,221 --> 00:39:01,821 and the medium is gonna stand up 853 00:39:01,823 --> 00:39:04,590 and is going to relay for 60 minutes 854 00:39:04,592 --> 00:39:08,428 the most important things Maggie feels 855 00:39:08,430 --> 00:39:10,396 occurred in her life. 856 00:39:10,398 --> 00:39:14,000 Once that's done, she will be moved on. 857 00:39:14,002 --> 00:39:16,302 So once the medium comes in and moves Maggie on, 858 00:39:16,304 --> 00:39:18,070 basically, she'll start feeling better? 859 00:39:18,072 --> 00:39:19,772 Well, you won't get beat up. 860 00:39:19,774 --> 00:39:21,974 I'm very happy to hear that. 861 00:39:23,044 --> 00:39:25,578 A few days later, have the medium come back 862 00:39:25,580 --> 00:39:28,247 and try to move on the little girl. 863 00:39:28,249 --> 00:39:31,518 After that, the medium needs to go downstairs 864 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:34,921 and move the male on that's down there. 865 00:39:34,923 --> 00:39:36,556 This is going to take a lot of convincing 866 00:39:36,558 --> 00:39:38,925 because he feels so at home 867 00:39:38,927 --> 00:39:43,329 and so comfortable down there, but it can be done. 868 00:39:43,331 --> 00:39:45,397 Do you recommend having the same medium 869 00:39:45,399 --> 00:39:46,398 do all of it? 870 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:48,067 Yeah, I do. 871 00:39:48,069 --> 00:39:49,602 The last thing you need to do 872 00:39:49,604 --> 00:39:52,238 is kill these vines. 873 00:39:52,240 --> 00:39:56,108 You're going to get a lot of tar water. 874 00:39:56,110 --> 00:39:58,277 You're gonna put it in a spray bottle, 875 00:39:58,279 --> 00:40:00,480 and you're gonna go outside, 876 00:40:00,482 --> 00:40:02,815 and where the house meets the ground 877 00:40:02,817 --> 00:40:05,351 is where you're aiming, okay? 878 00:40:05,353 --> 00:40:07,820 You're gonna go along the entire outside 879 00:40:07,822 --> 00:40:10,957 of the house doing this. 880 00:40:10,959 --> 00:40:14,727 Do not miss a spot. 881 00:40:14,729 --> 00:40:16,362 When you're spraying the tar water, 882 00:40:16,364 --> 00:40:18,898 these are shriveling and dying. 883 00:40:18,900 --> 00:40:20,866 So the tar water is gonna destroy 884 00:40:20,868 --> 00:40:22,702 the vines that are coming into the house? 885 00:40:22,704 --> 00:40:24,904 Yes. 886 00:40:24,906 --> 00:40:27,540 So that's everything you have to do. 887 00:40:27,542 --> 00:40:29,309 Once that's all done, though, this house will be 888 00:40:29,311 --> 00:40:30,276 safe enough to live in? 889 00:40:30,278 --> 00:40:32,545 Yes. 890 00:40:32,547 --> 00:40:35,581 It'll be very quiet. 891 00:40:35,583 --> 00:40:37,116 Brittney, I'm curious. 892 00:40:37,118 --> 00:40:39,184 Would you rather see your mother move or do all this? 893 00:40:39,186 --> 00:40:40,386 Be honest. 894 00:40:40,388 --> 00:40:42,588 If I'm 100% honest, I don't really trust 895 00:40:42,590 --> 00:40:46,025 what's in the yard, because you're gonna 896 00:40:46,027 --> 00:40:48,461 be around that all the time still, 897 00:40:48,463 --> 00:40:50,496 and it could still affect you. 898 00:40:50,498 --> 00:40:54,100 So you'd rather see your mom and dad move? 899 00:40:54,102 --> 00:40:55,734 At this point, yeah, 900 00:40:55,736 --> 00:40:58,338 but I know her, and she'll be stubborn 901 00:40:58,340 --> 00:41:02,375 and not listen when it comes to staying here. 902 00:41:03,011 --> 00:41:05,544 Knowing how your daughter feels, what are you thinking? 903 00:41:05,546 --> 00:41:07,146 I think we'll do the work. 904 00:41:07,148 --> 00:41:12,318 We have to at least try and see how it works. 905 00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:13,619 When will it be safe 906 00:41:13,621 --> 00:41:16,255 for Brittney to bring her daughter around? 907 00:41:16,257 --> 00:41:18,858 As soon as the last thing's been done basically, 908 00:41:18,860 --> 00:41:20,326 with the tar water. 909 00:41:20,328 --> 00:41:21,995 I think it's amazing. 910 00:41:21,997 --> 00:41:24,697 You really solved everything. 911 00:41:24,699 --> 00:41:26,499 It's good to have answers. 912 00:41:28,637 --> 00:41:31,838 Brittney and Tammy have a lot of work ahead of them, 913 00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:34,340 but if they contact a medium to remove the dead, 914 00:41:34,342 --> 00:41:36,776 and kill the vines with the tar water, 915 00:41:36,778 --> 00:41:39,846 Tammy can stay in her home and Brittney can find peace 916 00:41:39,848 --> 00:41:42,882 knowing her mother will be safe. 917 00:41:42,932 --> 00:41:47,482 Repair and Synchronization by Easy Subtitles Synchronizer 1.0.0.0 68802

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