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Something doesn't want us here.
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I feel like I'm being
strangled by human hands.
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Somebody grabbed me.
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You shouldn't have had
a park here for children.
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Why would anybody build
an amusement park
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out in the middle
of nowhere?
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People are being
brutally murdered.
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We found these children
dead, scalped.
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I don't feel safe here.
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I just hear death,
too much death.
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This is not a good situation.
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My name is Amy Allan.
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There's death here.
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Don't want to
go down there.
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I see dead people.
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They hide in the walls
and they watch.
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I speak to dead people.
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She's definitely
a serial killer.
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And they speak to me.
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She's going
to torture them.
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But there's only one way
to know if my findings are real.
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They were all murdered.
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I rely on my partner.
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I'm Steve Di Schiavi.
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I'm a retired New York City
homicide detective.
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So, is this the only time
you've been physically attacked?
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And I know every person,
every house has secrets.
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There's no question
in my mind
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that he was talking
about Satan.
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It's my job to reveal them.
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Who do you think
possessed you?
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But Steve and I never speak...
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We never communicate
during an investigation.
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...until the very end...
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Well, you're not gonna
want to see this.
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...when we uncover
if it's safe for you to stay...
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Hell no!
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...or time to get out.
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Everyone is in jeopardy.
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I'm in Lake Shawnee,
West Virginia.
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It's about 90 miles
south of Charleston.
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I got a call from a guy
named Chris.
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Now, he owns an abandoned
amusement park,
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and it's been
in his family for years.
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Now, here is the problem.
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The activity is bad,
and it's getting worse.
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Chris thinks it's just
a matter of time
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before someone gets hurt.
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Hopefully,
we can help this guy out.
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I'm going to start
with the easy part,
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removing any information
in the house,
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but this is a huge property
with an abandoned theme park,
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so I need to cover
any signs or memorials,
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which could influence
Amy's findings.
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When I'm done, the location will
be ready for tonight's walk.
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There's something bad here
in the ground.
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It's, like, not good.
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It's not pure.
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It puts off a vibe,
a bad, bad vibe.
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Now, Chris, when we spoke
on the phone,
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you had a real sound
of concern in your voice.
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What's going on?
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My mother lives on my property.
Activity is picking up.
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I just want to make sure
that my family
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and also the volunteers
and the tourists
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that come here
to visit the property,
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I want to make sure
everybody is just safe.
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So, Chris, you got to
help me out here.
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I notice it was
an amusement park,
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but I see a rusted out
Ferris Wheel.
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What do you do
with this place?
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So we give a history tour,
and we do ghost-hunting tours.
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Listen, I don't know how
Amy is going to feel about that,
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but just be ready.
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She may ask you to cut
the ghost-hunting stuff out.
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Do me a favor.
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Give me a list of what's
going on as far as activity.
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Guests or volunteers,
they're hearing voices,
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seeing
full-body apparitions.
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They are being
pushed and shoved.
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Chris, you mentioned
on the phone that this place
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has been
in your family a while.
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My father had bought
this property in 1985.
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His dream was to restore it
back to an amusement park.
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So now, Chris, your father,
is he still around?
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No, he passed away
in 2010.
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He died from cancer,
but this is a picture of him.
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Now, did your father die
on the property?
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No, he lived here for
the last 10 years of his life,
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but he died
in a hospital.
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Okay,
so besides your mother,
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any other family
members live here?
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My brother lived
on the property,
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but he died
from a heart attack.
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How old was he?
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He was 51.
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And this is
a picture of him?
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Picture of my brother.
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I got to ask the question,
you don't think anything
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with the paranormal
activity had anything to do
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with any of the deaths here,
do you?
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I really can't tell.
That's why I called you guys.
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Okay.
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Why don't you
just cut your losses
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and just sell
this property?
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I'm sure you can do
pretty well by selling it.
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Because it's too important
to my father,
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and it's too important
to the community.
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All right,
so this was your dad's dream,
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to restore this
to an amusement park.
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I mean, what about you?
Do you want to do that?
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We pretty much let the land
do what it wants.
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Okay.
If the land wants to create back into an amusement park,
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we'll let it happen,
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but if it doesn't,
we just follow the land.
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I have no idea
what you're talking about,
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but it's your place.
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It's your property.
All right.
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So what do you think
is causing the activity here?
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I feel that my father
and my brother is here.
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I mean, you don't think
your father and your brother
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are causing any of the pushing
and shoving that's going on?
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Absolutely not.
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I think there's
other activity here.
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Okay.
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I'm trying to focus,
and it's hard because
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there's probably at least
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12 conscious entities
around here.
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I don't feel safe here because
something doesn't want us here.
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Obviously, there were
Native Americans here
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because they're saying that,
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"This is, like, spiritual,"
you know,
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"A sacred place for us.
Don't take it."
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And we did anyways.
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And so, Chris, this is
where your mom lives?
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Yes, she lives on
the property by herself.
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I mean, this is in
the middle of nowhere.
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I mean, you got to be
worried about her
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even though you live close.
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Yeah, she'll call me
late at night,
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and I just come down to check
on her, make sure she's safe.
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So now, we talked
a lot about your guests,
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your volunteers
having experiences.
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What about you?
Have you had any?
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Yeah.
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Sometimes, whenever I'm in the
park doing a little bit of work,
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I'll catch images
out of the side of my eye,
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just like shadows.
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So what makes you think
it's not an actual shadow
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from somebody
or something?
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It's a big lot.
Nobody is allowed on it.
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Okay, anything else?
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One time, there was
a paranormal investigator.
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He came to the park,
and he stepped inside
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of one of the ticket booths
we had here.
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- Okay.
- And whenever he stepped inside,
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he'd come flying
backwards out of it,
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and it looked like something
had shoved him out.
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Listen, I run into
a lot of these people,
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and they tend to exaggerate
a lot of things.
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The way he flew out
of that ticket booth,
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I don't think he could
have done it by himself.
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Okay, so it looked
legit to you.
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To me, it did.
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Okay, so you've seen somebody
get physically attacked.
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Anything like that
ever happen to you?
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Yeah, whenever I was over
at the swing or the Ferris Wheel
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and mowing grass,
I could feel a pressure
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on my shoulders
and around my back.
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Now, does this happen every time
you're out there working?
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It's happened several times
but not every time.
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So it sounds like you've had
some pretty scary experiences.
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Now, is being here
really worth the trouble?
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Well, my father had experiences
while he was here,
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and he wanted to protect
the place
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for the living
and the deceased.
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- Okay.
- I'm the same way.
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I want to protect the place
to keep it safe for both.
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I'm feeling, like,
sick and nervous.
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I feel like I'm being
strangled by human hands.
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It's the Native Americans.
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They really don't want me
to keep going.
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I'm seeing, like, blood.
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Where are you seeing
the blood?
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It's, like, dripping.
It's on all of the chains.
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The Native Americans caused
something bad to happen.
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So, Jewell, I was talking
to your son, Chris,
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and he thinks you may not
be safe with all this activity.
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Do you agree with that?
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- No.
- You don't?
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Chris wants me to go live
with him, but I won't do it.
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All right,
so have you had any experiences?
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Personally, yes.
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Okay, so can you tell me
about some of them?
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There's things
always moving.
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Sometimes, it's a pencil, keys,
just papers, sometimes.
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I misplace stuff
all the time.
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I mean, are you sure
it's nothing like that?
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No, there is things
that I misplace, too.
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Okay.
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But these things will be things
that I just put in a place,
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and then I walk out and walk
back in, and they're gone.
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Okay, so anything else?
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Yes.
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I've seen an apparition
of an Indian warrior.
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Why do you say it's a warrior?
How do you know that?
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Because of the way
he's dressed.
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He has no shirt, and he had some
type of instrument in his hand.
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Okay, so it appeared
like he was ready for battle.
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Right.
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Kind of brushed
the side of my face.
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I think, if I walked in,
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and there was an Indian
warrior holding a weapon,
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I think I'd be
a little uneasy about it.
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Maybe, you would be.
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- But you weren't.
- No.
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I feel like maybe
they've experienced stuff
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from the Native Americans.
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I'm feeling like
someone who's alive,
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they're panicking
about things being moved...
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and I do feel like there
would be depression here.
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I want to extend
my condolences.
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I understand you lost
your husband and your son
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while they were
living here. Yes.
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When you guys were
all living together,
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did they have experiences?
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Yes, they both did.
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Jewell, your husband's passion
was turning this place
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into another amusement park
and making it work.
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But when that didn't happen,
how did he take it?
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I think he thought
we were failures,
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that we couldn't get
the business going,
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that we couldn't get
anything working for us.
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Do you think that had
something to do with,
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maybe, whatever is here
doesn't want
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another amusement
park built.
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Yes.
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I think that whatever is here
wanted to be the attraction.
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I don't think
it wanted anything else.
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I understand your son's death
was pretty sudden.
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Chris told me
he suffered a heart attack.
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He was a young man.
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He was about 51?
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Yeah.
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Do you think the paranormal
had anything to do
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with your
other son's death?
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Never thought about that.
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There was a living person
associated with the property,
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as having heart issues.
250
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Someone has had
a heart attack, male.
251
00:11:01,828 --> 00:11:09,500
It's a result of being
exposed to the energy.
252
00:11:09,502 --> 00:11:11,803
I believe it stems
from the Native Americans
253
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who don't want anybody there.
254
00:11:13,773 --> 00:11:18,009
I just hear death,
too much death.
255
00:11:41,718 --> 00:11:43,585
So, Christian, I was talking
to your dad today.
256
00:11:43,587 --> 00:11:44,786
I understand
you might have had
257
00:11:44,788 --> 00:11:46,320
some scary stuff
happen to you here.
258
00:11:46,322 --> 00:11:47,522
- Yes.
- All right.
259
00:11:47,524 --> 00:11:48,856
Can you tell me
about one of them?
260
00:11:48,858 --> 00:11:50,792
When I walk around here,
261
00:11:50,794 --> 00:11:53,528
sometimes I feel like there's
people walking behind me.
262
00:11:53,530 --> 00:11:55,330
All over the place
or in certain spots?
263
00:11:55,332 --> 00:11:57,865
It's at random times
in certain spots.
264
00:11:57,867 --> 00:11:59,200
Do you hear
anything behind you?
265
00:11:59,202 --> 00:12:03,537
I feel like I hear footsteps
and people walking in the grass.
266
00:12:03,539 --> 00:12:04,739
Okay.
267
00:12:04,741 --> 00:12:05,874
Anything else happen?
268
00:12:05,876 --> 00:12:09,010
When I was down over
at the swings,
269
00:12:09,012 --> 00:12:11,579
and I felt like
somebody grabbed me
270
00:12:11,581 --> 00:12:13,815
and held my arms
to my body.
271
00:12:13,817 --> 00:12:15,583
Okay, you mean, like, somebody
grabbed both of your...
272
00:12:15,585 --> 00:12:16,717
Like that?
273
00:12:16,719 --> 00:12:18,285
Yes.
274
00:12:18,287 --> 00:12:19,887
So when you got grabbed,
do you think
275
00:12:19,889 --> 00:12:21,422
it was somebody trying
to tell you something?
276
00:12:21,424 --> 00:12:24,425
Yes, like there's a bad spirit
maybe in front of me,
277
00:12:24,427 --> 00:12:28,095
so they were trying to stop me
and make me turn around.
278
00:12:28,097 --> 00:12:30,432
Now, would you ever stay here
by yourself overnight?
279
00:12:30,434 --> 00:12:31,733
No, not really.
280
00:12:31,735 --> 00:12:34,101
Okay, what about staying
at grandma's home?
281
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- No.
- No?
282
00:12:35,338 --> 00:12:37,172
Okay.
283
00:12:41,110 --> 00:12:42,576
This is weird.
284
00:12:42,578 --> 00:12:45,580
There's something trying
to protect the living here.
285
00:12:45,582 --> 00:12:50,785
It's not human,
and it was very, very large,
286
00:12:50,787 --> 00:12:53,854
at least eight feet tall.
287
00:12:53,856 --> 00:12:57,292
It was behind us on the road.
288
00:12:57,294 --> 00:13:00,795
It had, like, robes on.
289
00:13:00,797 --> 00:13:04,999
You know what's weird is that
that thing that's here
290
00:13:05,001 --> 00:13:11,339
with the robes is not
Native American, but it's old.
291
00:13:11,341 --> 00:13:18,479
He's more trying to
keep people away
292
00:13:18,481 --> 00:13:20,682
because bad things
happen to people,
293
00:13:20,684 --> 00:13:27,155
so I don't think he's
exactly bad, but he scares me.
294
00:13:33,797 --> 00:13:36,097
After meeting with Chris
and his family,
295
00:13:36,099 --> 00:13:39,233
I started talking to people
who had spent time at the park.
296
00:13:39,235 --> 00:13:41,168
I never feel alone.
297
00:13:41,170 --> 00:13:43,371
It always feels like
there's somebody around me,
298
00:13:43,373 --> 00:13:45,907
with me, that feeling
of being watched.
299
00:13:45,909 --> 00:13:48,276
It is definitely
an uneasy feeling for me.
300
00:13:48,278 --> 00:13:50,377
And each one of them
has some damn good reasons
301
00:13:50,379 --> 00:13:51,713
to be terrified.
302
00:13:51,715 --> 00:13:55,683
I saw an apparition of a man
walking right here on the road,
303
00:13:55,685 --> 00:14:00,321
and he take four to five steps,
and he vanished into nowhere.
304
00:14:00,323 --> 00:14:02,022
But one thing
they all had in common,
305
00:14:02,024 --> 00:14:04,692
they were seeing shadows,
lots of them.
306
00:14:04,694 --> 00:14:07,328
There was a time where
I've seen a shadow figure.
307
00:14:07,330 --> 00:14:08,730
It was like
a figure of a man.
308
00:14:08,732 --> 00:14:11,366
There was this overwhelming
sense of anxiety,
309
00:14:11,368 --> 00:14:13,034
and I just felt like
I had to get out of there.
310
00:14:17,206 --> 00:14:20,908
I'm trying to focus.
311
00:14:20,910 --> 00:14:24,345
There is this other thing,
a child,
312
00:14:24,347 --> 00:14:28,383
a male between
8 and 9 years of age.
313
00:14:28,385 --> 00:14:32,219
He has taken it upon himself
to be, like,
314
00:14:32,221 --> 00:14:34,221
a guard or something,
315
00:14:34,223 --> 00:14:37,392
and he's, like,
watching all the time.
316
00:14:37,394 --> 00:14:39,627
I think that people would
absolutely mistake him for,
317
00:14:39,629 --> 00:14:44,766
like, a shadow person because
he's completely solid black.
318
00:14:44,768 --> 00:14:46,567
Like, he feels like
it's stronger
319
00:14:46,569 --> 00:14:49,904
than just looking like a person.
320
00:14:49,906 --> 00:14:52,807
They shouldn't have had
a park here for children.
321
00:14:55,378 --> 00:14:57,778
I don't like it.
It makes me uncomfortable.
322
00:14:57,780 --> 00:15:02,716
Like, I'm scared,
feel like I'm being watched.
323
00:15:02,718 --> 00:15:04,785
There's a bad person here.
324
00:15:04,787 --> 00:15:06,054
I know it's a male.
325
00:15:06,056 --> 00:15:09,157
This person is crazy
and isn't thinking straight,
326
00:15:09,159 --> 00:15:11,826
anger, lots of anger.
327
00:15:11,828 --> 00:15:13,795
Like, I want to throw up.
328
00:15:13,797 --> 00:15:17,665
It's almost like
he blanks out from the rage.
329
00:15:17,667 --> 00:15:19,033
I don't like this.
330
00:15:32,031 --> 00:15:33,931
All right, I'm going to start
my investigation
331
00:15:33,933 --> 00:15:35,566
with the obvious question,
332
00:15:35,568 --> 00:15:38,636
who the hell built an amusement
park in the middle of nowhere,
333
00:15:38,638 --> 00:15:40,805
and why did it shut down?
334
00:15:40,807 --> 00:15:42,306
I'm heading back
to the property to meet
335
00:15:42,308 --> 00:15:44,575
with a local historian
who says it's a story
336
00:15:44,577 --> 00:15:46,644
I'm definitely going to
want to know about.
337
00:15:51,584 --> 00:15:54,318
Pat, I want to thank you for
helping me out with this case.
338
00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:56,621
So why would anybody build
an amusement park
339
00:15:56,623 --> 00:15:58,289
out in the middle of nowhere?
340
00:15:58,291 --> 00:16:00,758
It is the intersection
of two main roads
341
00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:03,694
where there are
a lot of people coal mining
342
00:16:03,696 --> 00:16:05,463
that had nothing to do.
343
00:16:05,465 --> 00:16:06,930
Who opened this place?
344
00:16:06,932 --> 00:16:08,833
A man named Conley Snidow,
345
00:16:08,835 --> 00:16:12,103
and here's what it looked
like in its heyday.
346
00:16:12,105 --> 00:16:13,771
He opened it in 1926.
347
00:16:13,773 --> 00:16:16,307
The biggest attraction
was the swimming pool.
348
00:16:16,309 --> 00:16:19,043
Over here
was a fishing hole.
349
00:16:19,045 --> 00:16:20,644
There was paddle boating.
350
00:16:20,646 --> 00:16:24,148
There were canoe rides, and then
right here, where we were,
351
00:16:24,150 --> 00:16:28,586
was the bath house,
which had Saturday-night dances.
352
00:16:28,588 --> 00:16:30,287
- Are you from this area?
- I am.
353
00:16:30,289 --> 00:16:32,557
I came here a lot
when I was small.
354
00:16:32,559 --> 00:16:34,292
You mentioned on the phone
there was some information
355
00:16:34,294 --> 00:16:35,226
I was going to
want to know about.
356
00:16:35,228 --> 00:16:36,327
What did you mean
by that?
357
00:16:36,329 --> 00:16:37,962
There were three deaths
that were connected
358
00:16:37,964 --> 00:16:39,831
with Lake Shawnee.
- All right.
359
00:16:39,833 --> 00:16:41,232
So let's go through
these deaths one by one.
360
00:16:41,234 --> 00:16:42,633
What was the first one?
361
00:16:42,635 --> 00:16:46,804
In 1927, Conley Snidow's
3- year-old daughter, Eloise,
362
00:16:46,806 --> 00:16:49,674
was killed at the hotel
where they lived.
363
00:16:49,676 --> 00:16:53,044
One day, she ran for
the elevator to get on it.
364
00:16:53,046 --> 00:16:55,546
She grabbed for the floor
of the elevator,
365
00:16:55,548 --> 00:17:00,218
and it pulled her up and crushed
her between that and the doors.
366
00:17:00,220 --> 00:17:01,485
That's a pretty
sad death.
367
00:17:01,487 --> 00:17:02,653
What about
the second one?
368
00:17:02,655 --> 00:17:04,321
Second death
actually happened here
369
00:17:04,323 --> 00:17:06,657
at Lake Shawnee
in the swimming pool.
370
00:17:06,659 --> 00:17:09,526
It was a 6-year-old child
named Wayne Harman.
371
00:17:09,528 --> 00:17:11,695
That happened in 1961.
372
00:17:11,697 --> 00:17:14,399
Evidently, he jumped in,
and no one paid attention,
373
00:17:14,401 --> 00:17:17,001
and someone brushed up
against his body
374
00:17:17,003 --> 00:17:18,068
at the bottom
of the pool,
375
00:17:18,070 --> 00:17:19,570
and they came up
and yelled to the lifeguard,
376
00:17:19,572 --> 00:17:22,273
and they pulled him out,
but it was too late.
377
00:17:22,275 --> 00:17:23,708
What about
the third one?
378
00:17:23,710 --> 00:17:27,010
The third one happened
July 3, 1966,
379
00:17:27,012 --> 00:17:28,079
right in the pool here,
380
00:17:28,081 --> 00:17:31,882
John Richard Tolley,
who was 11 years old.
381
00:17:31,884 --> 00:17:33,751
Here's an article
about it,
382
00:17:33,753 --> 00:17:36,087
and he was stuck in the drain
at the bottom of the pool.
383
00:17:36,089 --> 00:17:37,488
What a shame.
384
00:17:37,490 --> 00:17:39,022
So in the matter
of five years,
385
00:17:39,024 --> 00:17:40,691
he has two drownings
in the same pool.
386
00:17:40,693 --> 00:17:42,960
That was the straw that broke
the camel's back
387
00:17:42,962 --> 00:17:44,662
for Mr. Conley Snidow.
388
00:17:44,664 --> 00:17:46,831
He closed it down,
never reopened it.
389
00:17:46,833 --> 00:17:48,633
Anybody who can relate to
what those parents went through,
390
00:17:48,635 --> 00:17:50,034
it was him.
- Absolutely.
391
00:17:50,036 --> 00:17:52,637
It must have weighed very
heavily on his conscious for him
392
00:17:52,639 --> 00:17:55,840
to close down a park
that was making money for him. Right.
393
00:17:55,842 --> 00:17:56,974
So, Pat,
I wouldn't normally ask
394
00:17:56,976 --> 00:17:58,176
a person like you
this question,
395
00:17:58,178 --> 00:18:00,511
but you told me you
came here as a kid.
396
00:18:00,513 --> 00:18:03,180
Now, was there anything that
happened that you can't explain?
397
00:18:03,182 --> 00:18:04,314
Yes.
398
00:18:04,316 --> 00:18:06,450
I was swimming right here
as a 5-year-old,
399
00:18:06,452 --> 00:18:09,720
and something grabbed me
by the bottom of my leg
400
00:18:09,722 --> 00:18:13,458
and pulled me under,
and I went down into a hole.
401
00:18:13,460 --> 00:18:16,661
My father had to pull me up
by the hair on my head.
402
00:18:16,663 --> 00:18:19,396
Any thoughts about what might
have happened to you here or...
403
00:18:19,398 --> 00:18:20,998
Something grabbed me.
404
00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:22,132
It felt like a hand.
405
00:18:22,134 --> 00:18:23,634
When I heard about
those children,
406
00:18:23,636 --> 00:18:26,136
the first thing that
came into my head was,
407
00:18:26,138 --> 00:18:28,539
"What grabbed them
and pulled them under?"
408
00:18:31,944 --> 00:18:35,279
The water repels me.
409
00:18:35,281 --> 00:18:37,548
There's been losses.
410
00:18:37,550 --> 00:18:41,352
I'm feeling tragedies
associated with this.
411
00:18:41,354 --> 00:18:45,756
I think that people died there
when it was a park.
412
00:18:48,661 --> 00:18:51,963
I'm seeing two, so I don't know
if two people got hurt
413
00:18:51,965 --> 00:18:53,697
or they died.
414
00:18:53,699 --> 00:18:55,700
- How recent?
- '70s?
415
00:18:55,702 --> 00:18:57,435
maybe it is '60s.
416
00:18:57,437 --> 00:19:00,838
Native Americans caused
accidents to happen.
417
00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:04,174
It's just horrible.
418
00:19:04,176 --> 00:19:06,277
So I'm walking over
to meet a genealogist
419
00:19:06,279 --> 00:19:08,112
who was doing some research
on this place for me,
420
00:19:08,114 --> 00:19:10,447
and he came up
with something big.
421
00:19:10,449 --> 00:19:12,583
Turns out, the original
owners of this land
422
00:19:12,585 --> 00:19:14,986
got ambushed
by local Native Americans,
423
00:19:14,988 --> 00:19:16,587
and it was a bloodbath.
424
00:19:20,727 --> 00:19:22,660
Well, Dan, I appreciate you
helping me out with this case.
425
00:19:22,662 --> 00:19:24,395
You said on the phone
there was a pretty brutal
426
00:19:24,397 --> 00:19:26,130
Indian attack
on this land.
427
00:19:26,132 --> 00:19:27,164
That's correct.
428
00:19:27,166 --> 00:19:28,266
Okay, so before we even
get to that,
429
00:19:28,268 --> 00:19:29,934
what do you know
about the original owners?
430
00:19:29,936 --> 00:19:32,737
The original owner was a man
by the name of Mitchell Clay.
431
00:19:32,739 --> 00:19:33,938
He was from
Eastern Virginia.
432
00:19:33,940 --> 00:19:37,408
He was a wealthy
tobacco planter, a slave owner,
433
00:19:37,410 --> 00:19:41,144
and in 1775,
Mitchell Clay, his wife, Phoebe,
434
00:19:41,146 --> 00:19:43,147
and their 14 children
moved onto the land,
435
00:19:43,149 --> 00:19:44,415
and this would have
been the cabin
436
00:19:44,417 --> 00:19:46,217
that they built
and lived in.
437
00:19:46,219 --> 00:19:47,718
Okay,
so they settled here.
438
00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:48,953
What about
local Indian tribes?
439
00:19:48,955 --> 00:19:51,288
There were no permanent
local Indian settlements here.
440
00:19:51,290 --> 00:19:53,624
However, the Shawnee Indians
would pass through here
441
00:19:53,626 --> 00:19:54,825
periodically to hunt.
442
00:19:54,827 --> 00:19:57,428
Did Indians ever inhabit
this land at some point?
443
00:19:57,430 --> 00:19:59,096
In the 1400s,
there were certainly
444
00:19:59,098 --> 00:20:00,298
Indian settlements here.
445
00:20:00,300 --> 00:20:02,366
In fact, the current landowner,
back in the late '80s,
446
00:20:02,368 --> 00:20:05,036
accidentally excavated
a grave site
447
00:20:05,038 --> 00:20:07,738
just on this corner
of the property over here,
448
00:20:07,740 --> 00:20:11,642
21 sets of remains,
and 13 were children,
449
00:20:11,644 --> 00:20:14,245
and it's possible that there
are many more remains here.
450
00:20:14,247 --> 00:20:15,579
Okay, so let's get
to the attack.
451
00:20:15,581 --> 00:20:16,713
What happened?
452
00:20:16,715 --> 00:20:18,316
In the fall of 1783,
Mitchell Clay
453
00:20:18,318 --> 00:20:19,783
and his two oldest sons
had gone hunting.
454
00:20:19,785 --> 00:20:21,852
They'd left two of the boys,
Ezekiel and Bartley,
455
00:20:21,854 --> 00:20:23,654
to build a fence around
some of their fields.
456
00:20:23,656 --> 00:20:27,257
Shawnee Indians fired a shot
and killed Bartley on the spot,
457
00:20:27,259 --> 00:20:28,459
only 17 years old.
458
00:20:28,461 --> 00:20:30,761
Bartley's sister, Tabitha,
rushed to his aid.
459
00:20:30,763 --> 00:20:32,129
She wound up being
stabbed repeatedly,
460
00:20:32,131 --> 00:20:34,731
and she died
on this very spot.
461
00:20:34,733 --> 00:20:37,601
Once Bartley and Tabitha
were dead,
462
00:20:37,603 --> 00:20:40,270
the Indians scalped
both of them and then grabbed
463
00:20:40,272 --> 00:20:43,273
and kidnapped their 16-year-old
brother, Ezekiel.
464
00:20:43,275 --> 00:20:45,543
Short time later,
Mitchell Clay returned
465
00:20:45,545 --> 00:20:47,077
with his oldest sons.
466
00:20:47,079 --> 00:20:49,914
He found his children dead
and scalped.
467
00:20:49,916 --> 00:20:51,748
What does he do?
468
00:20:51,750 --> 00:20:54,018
He then gathers a posse,
469
00:20:54,020 --> 00:20:58,022
and they pursue the Indians
who had taken Ezekiel
470
00:20:58,024 --> 00:21:00,157
about 150 miles
into Ohio.
471
00:21:00,159 --> 00:21:01,725
Does he find them?
472
00:21:01,727 --> 00:21:03,761
He finds them,
but he finds them too late.
473
00:21:03,763 --> 00:21:06,096
By the time
he catches up with them,
474
00:21:06,098 --> 00:21:07,632
they have tortured
young Ezekiel
475
00:21:07,634 --> 00:21:09,233
and burned him
at the stake.
476
00:21:09,235 --> 00:21:10,467
All right.
477
00:21:10,469 --> 00:21:12,303
Mitchell Clay,
three dead kids.
478
00:21:12,305 --> 00:21:14,104
- Yes, sir.
- And he comes home?
479
00:21:14,106 --> 00:21:15,239
No.
480
00:21:15,241 --> 00:21:17,775
He sells the farm,
and then they move
481
00:21:17,777 --> 00:21:19,644
many miles away
back into Virginia,
482
00:21:19,646 --> 00:21:22,380
and he lives there the rest
of his life with his wife,
483
00:21:22,382 --> 00:21:26,016
and they die there.
484
00:21:26,018 --> 00:21:28,385
There's a bunch
of happy people.
485
00:21:28,387 --> 00:21:30,854
They were all white.
486
00:21:30,856 --> 00:21:32,022
It's all good vibes.
487
00:21:32,024 --> 00:21:34,392
You know, people
are singing and dancing.
488
00:21:34,394 --> 00:21:40,064
There's, like, a covered-wagon
thing, I think 1760s.
489
00:21:40,066 --> 00:21:42,066
Then, the Native Americans
got really mad,
490
00:21:42,068 --> 00:21:44,702
and then it kind of
went a little nuts.
491
00:21:47,273 --> 00:21:48,872
And I'm hearing
screaming and yelling
492
00:21:48,874 --> 00:21:50,441
and people running around.
493
00:21:50,443 --> 00:21:51,942
They were caught off guard.
494
00:21:51,944 --> 00:21:53,878
People are being
brutally murdered.
495
00:21:56,682 --> 00:21:59,649
Then I'm with this mother,
and I think I want to die,
496
00:21:59,651 --> 00:22:01,085
want to kill myself.
497
00:22:01,087 --> 00:22:03,353
It's survivor's guilt.
498
00:22:03,355 --> 00:22:05,622
There's a lot of pain here.
499
00:22:05,624 --> 00:22:07,892
These souls are not at rest.
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00:22:14,567 --> 00:22:16,567
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502
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505
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506
00:22:34,620 --> 00:22:36,286
So far, I've got a client
who fears
507
00:22:36,288 --> 00:22:37,621
for the safety of his mother,
508
00:22:37,623 --> 00:22:39,690
volunteers, and guests
509
00:22:39,692 --> 00:22:41,992
on a property
where two kids drowned,
510
00:22:41,994 --> 00:22:43,360
two other kids were murdered,
511
00:22:43,362 --> 00:22:45,863
and where Native American
remains were found,
512
00:22:45,865 --> 00:22:48,432
but I want to see
if there's anything else.
513
00:22:48,434 --> 00:22:49,767
Searching through old records,
514
00:22:49,769 --> 00:22:51,635
I found an article
about a brutal murder
515
00:22:51,637 --> 00:22:54,705
that took place in 1935.
516
00:22:54,707 --> 00:22:58,109
Turns out, it happened
right along Chris' property.
517
00:22:58,111 --> 00:22:59,477
So I called the local cops,
518
00:22:59,479 --> 00:23:01,412
and they don't want to
talk to me about this case,
519
00:23:01,414 --> 00:23:03,614
but my old friend
Matt McGrew does.
520
00:23:03,616 --> 00:23:05,182
I'm heading over
to meet with him now,
521
00:23:05,184 --> 00:23:08,218
and he says this murder turned
out to be a crime of passion.
522
00:23:13,125 --> 00:23:14,458
So, Matt,
it's good to see you again.
523
00:23:14,460 --> 00:23:16,260
I appreciate you helping out
with this case.
524
00:23:16,262 --> 00:23:18,529
Now, what do you know
about this perp?
525
00:23:18,531 --> 00:23:20,965
Well, his name is
James Craft Belcher.
526
00:23:20,967 --> 00:23:23,567
He's a local guy,
25 years old.
527
00:23:23,569 --> 00:23:24,802
Belcher,
the name sounds familiar.
528
00:23:24,804 --> 00:23:26,604
I think it came up
in my title search.
529
00:23:26,606 --> 00:23:28,939
His grandparents actually
owned the property
530
00:23:28,941 --> 00:23:30,274
in the early 1900s.
531
00:23:30,276 --> 00:23:32,042
So there's
a good possibility
532
00:23:32,044 --> 00:23:34,144
the perp spent time
on my client's property.
533
00:23:34,146 --> 00:23:36,547
Definitely, and he would
have grown up there.
534
00:23:36,549 --> 00:23:38,849
All right, so what do we know
about the victim?
535
00:23:38,851 --> 00:23:45,389
He actually was seeing
a woman named Myrtle Taylor.
536
00:23:45,391 --> 00:23:47,424
She's 19 years old.
She's a local girl.
537
00:23:47,426 --> 00:23:49,026
They've grown up
in the same area.
538
00:23:49,028 --> 00:23:51,095
All right, so now, take me
to the night of the murder.
539
00:23:51,097 --> 00:23:53,631
On the night
of May 11, 1935,
540
00:23:53,633 --> 00:23:55,432
Belcher goes into
a restaurant and sees
541
00:23:55,434 --> 00:23:57,868
Myrtle eating dinner
with another man,
542
00:23:57,870 --> 00:23:59,937
so as you might imagine,
they start fighting about it.
543
00:23:59,939 --> 00:24:01,304
Okay.
544
00:24:01,306 --> 00:24:02,505
And she doesn't
want to leave.
545
00:24:02,507 --> 00:24:04,041
You know,
she can tell he's upset,
546
00:24:04,043 --> 00:24:06,577
but he forces her
to leave with him
547
00:24:06,579 --> 00:24:10,914
and forces her
into the car.
548
00:24:10,916 --> 00:24:15,719
I don't feel good, and I am
getting, like, a pain, like,
549
00:24:15,721 --> 00:24:19,189
here and here,
really bad, actually.
550
00:24:19,191 --> 00:24:21,392
I think somebody got hit there.
551
00:24:21,394 --> 00:24:25,195
I think it's a woman.
552
00:24:25,197 --> 00:24:29,532
I think between
14 and 16 years of age,
553
00:24:29,534 --> 00:24:35,138
she seemed to be from
a long time ago, like the '40s.
554
00:24:35,140 --> 00:24:37,774
I feel like
there's a bad person here.
555
00:24:37,776 --> 00:24:41,945
I don't know who this person is.
556
00:24:41,947 --> 00:24:46,116
I know it's a male,
and she knows him.
557
00:24:46,118 --> 00:24:47,551
Do you know
what happened?
558
00:24:47,553 --> 00:24:52,056
I know that his intentions
were not good.
559
00:24:52,058 --> 00:24:54,558
Okay, so this guy basically
kidnapped his own girlfriend.
560
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:55,626
So what happened?
561
00:24:55,628 --> 00:24:57,561
Somewhere along
Rock-Shawnee Road,
562
00:24:57,563 --> 00:24:59,830
which is right along
your client's property,
563
00:24:59,832 --> 00:25:01,899
they stop the car,
and they get out.
564
00:25:01,901 --> 00:25:05,302
He pulls out a gun, and he
shoots her in the head twice.
565
00:25:05,304 --> 00:25:08,505
I'm assuming she gets killed
right there and then.
566
00:25:08,507 --> 00:25:10,140
No, he puts her back
into the car.
567
00:25:10,142 --> 00:25:13,477
She's still alive, and
he drives her to the hospital,
568
00:25:13,479 --> 00:25:16,914
but obviously, she's basically
in a coma at this point.
569
00:25:16,916 --> 00:25:18,581
She dies
a few hours later.
570
00:25:18,583 --> 00:25:20,050
Does he confess to it?
571
00:25:20,052 --> 00:25:24,721
He goes to trial, and he
actually makes an insanity plea.
572
00:25:24,723 --> 00:25:26,023
The jury doesn't buy it.
573
00:25:26,025 --> 00:25:27,391
They convict him.
- All right.
574
00:25:27,393 --> 00:25:29,125
So did this guy ever get parole,
or did he die in prison?
575
00:25:29,127 --> 00:25:32,930
No, he dies in prison in 1993
when he was 85.
576
00:25:32,932 --> 00:25:34,298
I've seen this
a thousand times.
577
00:25:34,300 --> 00:25:36,800
I mean, it's a crime of passion,
a lot of rage here.
578
00:25:36,802 --> 00:25:37,901
That's right.
579
00:25:37,903 --> 00:25:39,803
It's a shame
he never hung, though.
580
00:25:42,441 --> 00:25:46,176
That guy that she knew
was attacking her.
581
00:25:46,178 --> 00:25:47,677
God, it hurts.
582
00:25:47,679 --> 00:25:53,083
There was blood in her mouth,
and the pain was horrible,
583
00:25:53,085 --> 00:25:57,788
and she was, like, basically
going into shock at that time.
584
00:25:57,790 --> 00:26:01,892
This female, I believe,
was abducted or murdered
585
00:26:01,894 --> 00:26:03,327
by this man.
586
00:26:03,329 --> 00:26:06,630
The sun is, like,
just starting to go down
587
00:26:06,632 --> 00:26:07,865
when all of this happened,
588
00:26:07,867 --> 00:26:10,601
and there's, like,
a lot of adrenaline and anger,
589
00:26:13,605 --> 00:26:17,107
Rage, just blind rage.
590
00:26:24,850 --> 00:26:28,651
During my walk, I saw several
disturbing things,
591
00:26:28,653 --> 00:26:32,256
but the teenage girl who
was murdered really stood out.
592
00:26:32,258 --> 00:26:34,191
She was younger.
593
00:26:34,193 --> 00:26:38,128
I'd place her between
14 and 16 years of age.
594
00:26:38,130 --> 00:26:41,265
Her eyes were more
rounded in shape.
595
00:26:43,936 --> 00:26:47,871
Her hair was brown
or dark blonde.
596
00:26:56,348 --> 00:26:58,382
Amy,
is this what you saw?
597
00:26:58,384 --> 00:27:00,017
Yes.
598
00:27:19,522 --> 00:27:22,322
Now that Amy and I have
completed our investigations,
599
00:27:22,324 --> 00:27:24,391
we're ready to reveal
our findings to each other
600
00:27:24,393 --> 00:27:28,062
and our clients
for the first time.
601
00:27:28,064 --> 00:27:29,529
Well, Amy,
let's start with the obvious.
602
00:27:29,531 --> 00:27:30,998
I mean, I'm sure
you figured out by now
603
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:32,933
that this used to be
an amusement park.
604
00:27:32,935 --> 00:27:35,001
Chris owns it here
with his mom, Jewell,
605
00:27:35,003 --> 00:27:37,003
who lives
on the property alone.
606
00:27:37,005 --> 00:27:38,672
We'll get into the reasons
why this place means
607
00:27:38,674 --> 00:27:41,542
so much to them later,
but for now, Chris called us in
608
00:27:41,544 --> 00:27:43,510
because he's not sure
if it's safe for his mom
609
00:27:43,512 --> 00:27:44,878
to be here alone
610
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,747
or for anybody else
that comes onto the property.
611
00:27:47,749 --> 00:27:49,349
Now that Amy knows
a little bit about you guys,
612
00:27:49,351 --> 00:27:51,085
I'll ask her to describe
her walk with us.
613
00:27:53,622 --> 00:27:55,622
This walk was really
overwhelming
614
00:27:55,624 --> 00:27:57,324
because I encountered
615
00:27:57,326 --> 00:28:01,761
at least 12 conscious
entities that are here.
616
00:28:01,763 --> 00:28:05,465
It would take all night
to go into each one of them,
617
00:28:05,467 --> 00:28:07,501
so I'm just going
to focus on the ones
618
00:28:07,503 --> 00:28:10,771
specifically who can directly
influence the living.
619
00:28:10,773 --> 00:28:13,440
The first individual
I encountered, actually,
620
00:28:13,442 --> 00:28:17,211
a little boy,
I would say he was about 8 or 9,
621
00:28:17,213 --> 00:28:19,846
and what he's doing is
he's taken it upon himself
622
00:28:19,848 --> 00:28:23,050
to kind of, like,
be a guard here
623
00:28:23,052 --> 00:28:26,253
and watch everybody's
coming and going.
624
00:28:26,255 --> 00:28:29,088
Obviously, I think you would
feel watched by him.
625
00:28:29,090 --> 00:28:33,660
You might be able to see him,
like a blocky shadow person.
626
00:28:33,662 --> 00:28:35,429
Everybody I spoke to
and interviewed
627
00:28:35,431 --> 00:28:38,332
had the experience of feeling
watched or seeing shadows.
628
00:28:38,334 --> 00:28:40,133
Now, you told me you saw
shadows, right, Chris?
629
00:28:40,135 --> 00:28:41,301
Yes, out of the side
of my eye,
630
00:28:41,303 --> 00:28:43,570
I would catch a shadow
every once in a while.
631
00:28:43,572 --> 00:28:44,938
So, Chris, do me a favor.
632
00:28:44,940 --> 00:28:47,341
Tell Amy how your son feels
like he's being followed.
633
00:28:47,343 --> 00:28:48,608
Yeah, whenever he goes
around the park,
634
00:28:48,610 --> 00:28:50,410
he feels like somebody
is following him,
635
00:28:50,412 --> 00:28:51,745
and then whenever he stops,
636
00:28:51,747 --> 00:28:54,147
he hears two more
steps behind him.
637
00:28:54,149 --> 00:28:55,716
Interesting.
638
00:28:55,718 --> 00:28:58,752
There was another dead
male here who was an adult.
639
00:28:58,754 --> 00:29:01,488
What I got mainly off of him
was a lot of adrenaline,
640
00:29:01,490 --> 00:29:04,892
a lot of anger,
and a lot of rage.
641
00:29:04,894 --> 00:29:08,728
If a living person was exposed
to that energy consistently,
642
00:29:08,730 --> 00:29:14,034
they could feel intense anxiety
like they're being stalked.
643
00:29:14,036 --> 00:29:15,969
I interviewed a guy named Bob
who does volunteer work
644
00:29:15,971 --> 00:29:17,404
for you on the property.
645
00:29:17,406 --> 00:29:20,440
Now, he told me he got hit
with some serious anxiety
646
00:29:20,442 --> 00:29:22,742
by the old school bus
that's right over here,
647
00:29:22,744 --> 00:29:25,245
but it was so bad that he had
to run off the property.
648
00:29:25,247 --> 00:29:27,380
Wow.
649
00:29:27,382 --> 00:29:31,652
Next, I ran into a very old
and very strange thing.
650
00:29:31,654 --> 00:29:35,923
It's, like, 8 feet tall,
and it has all these robes on.
651
00:29:35,925 --> 00:29:38,124
I was really uncomfortable
at first.
652
00:29:38,126 --> 00:29:40,594
So he's actually someone
who's trying to warn
653
00:29:40,596 --> 00:29:43,930
and protect, which I found
freaking fascinating.
654
00:29:43,932 --> 00:29:45,698
Well, let me ask you
a question because
655
00:29:45,700 --> 00:29:46,766
when I spoke to your son,
656
00:29:46,768 --> 00:29:48,268
he told me he felt
like he got grabbed.
657
00:29:48,270 --> 00:29:52,072
Now, he told me he felt like it
was somebody protecting him
658
00:29:52,074 --> 00:29:54,608
to stop from going
into a bad area.
659
00:29:54,610 --> 00:29:56,343
Could be.
660
00:29:56,345 --> 00:29:58,779
You told me you get touched
while you're on your tractor.
661
00:29:58,781 --> 00:30:00,480
Yeah, I feel a little bit
of pressure
662
00:30:00,482 --> 00:30:01,748
on my shoulders
and stuff,
663
00:30:01,750 --> 00:30:03,083
like something
is behind me.
664
00:30:03,085 --> 00:30:05,485
Now, who do you think that could
be, touching his shoulders?
665
00:30:05,487 --> 00:30:07,387
There's a lot of people.
666
00:30:07,389 --> 00:30:09,689
Possibly, your dad.
667
00:30:09,691 --> 00:30:13,026
Could be.
668
00:30:13,028 --> 00:30:15,562
One thing that I got
throughout my walk
669
00:30:15,564 --> 00:30:18,965
was the overwhelming feeling
of sadness and despair
670
00:30:18,967 --> 00:30:22,636
because of the deaths
over the years,
671
00:30:22,638 --> 00:30:27,040
and I got that people
did die when it was a park.
672
00:30:27,042 --> 00:30:29,776
I got that two deaths
specifically, I thought,
673
00:30:29,778 --> 00:30:31,611
happened in the '60s.
674
00:30:31,613 --> 00:30:36,116
Frankly, I was like,
"Who would build this here?"
675
00:30:36,118 --> 00:30:38,851
Like, the energy is not good.
676
00:30:38,853 --> 00:30:41,321
It's funny because when
I showed up here, I was like,
677
00:30:41,323 --> 00:30:43,457
"Who the hell would build this
place in the middle of nowhere?"
678
00:30:43,459 --> 00:30:46,026
When this was an amusement park,
it was called Lake Shawnee,
679
00:30:46,028 --> 00:30:50,130
and it was built by a guy named
Conley Snidow back in 1926.
680
00:30:50,132 --> 00:30:52,699
I got a photo here
of what it looked like
681
00:30:52,701 --> 00:30:56,603
when it was pretty much in
its heyday as an amusement park.
682
00:30:56,605 --> 00:30:58,839
Now, you said you got a couple
of deaths in the '60s.
683
00:30:58,841 --> 00:31:01,541
Well, get this,
back in June of 1961,
684
00:31:01,543 --> 00:31:03,643
a 6-year-old boy
named Wayne Harman
685
00:31:03,645 --> 00:31:06,847
drowned in that pond
right over here.
686
00:31:06,849 --> 00:31:10,684
Here's an article on it.
687
00:31:10,686 --> 00:31:13,687
Then, in July of 1966,
an 11-year-old boy
688
00:31:13,689 --> 00:31:17,157
named John Richard Tolley
drowned in the same pond.
689
00:31:17,159 --> 00:31:19,026
Now, the guilt was
so much for Snidow
690
00:31:19,028 --> 00:31:20,893
that he ended up closing
this place for good
691
00:31:20,895 --> 00:31:22,362
at the end of that summer.
692
00:31:22,364 --> 00:31:25,465
Now, I almost never ask experts
if they've had experiences,
693
00:31:25,467 --> 00:31:28,034
but the historian I spoke
to used to come here
694
00:31:28,036 --> 00:31:30,437
when she was a kid
and swim in the pond
695
00:31:30,439 --> 00:31:34,174
until one time she felt
like somebody grabbed her foot
696
00:31:34,176 --> 00:31:36,443
inside the pond
and pulled her down.
697
00:31:36,445 --> 00:31:37,777
Now, she almost drowned,
698
00:31:37,779 --> 00:31:39,713
but she's totally
convinced to this day
699
00:31:39,715 --> 00:31:41,314
that it was a paranormal event.
700
00:31:41,316 --> 00:31:42,649
Interesting.
701
00:31:42,651 --> 00:31:44,517
I think now is probably
a good time to tell Amy
702
00:31:44,519 --> 00:31:47,120
why this property is
so important to the family.
703
00:31:47,122 --> 00:31:48,655
It meant the world.
704
00:31:48,657 --> 00:31:50,857
Now, Chris' father,
Jewell's husband,
705
00:31:50,859 --> 00:31:53,192
bought the property in 1985.
706
00:31:53,194 --> 00:31:55,995
His dream was to own it
and restore it,
707
00:31:55,997 --> 00:31:59,633
but nothing worked right,
and so finally,
708
00:31:59,635 --> 00:32:01,868
we just had to
kind of give up.
709
00:32:01,870 --> 00:32:07,741
Now, would you mind telling Amy
about how your husband passed.
710
00:32:07,743 --> 00:32:10,911
It ended up being
colon cancer.
711
00:32:10,913 --> 00:32:13,146
And when he passed,
he was still living here.
712
00:32:13,148 --> 00:32:14,781
Right.
713
00:32:14,783 --> 00:32:17,084
Chris, you're trying to preserve
your father's dream.
714
00:32:17,086 --> 00:32:18,318
Yes.
715
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:21,388
I think our intention is
to preserve the property
716
00:32:21,390 --> 00:32:22,622
just the way it is.
717
00:32:22,624 --> 00:32:26,093
So I know that you guys have
paranormal investigators
718
00:32:26,095 --> 00:32:28,562
and all of this
kind of thing.
719
00:32:28,564 --> 00:32:31,564
We do.
720
00:32:31,566 --> 00:32:33,566
Anything else?
721
00:32:33,568 --> 00:32:36,436
I ran into
a deceased female,
722
00:32:36,438 --> 00:32:39,873
and I would have put her
between 14 and 16 years of age.
723
00:32:39,875 --> 00:32:42,108
She seemed to be
from a while ago.
724
00:32:42,110 --> 00:32:44,911
There was a male
that she runs into,
725
00:32:44,913 --> 00:32:48,448
and I think that
this male killed her.
726
00:32:48,450 --> 00:32:51,184
Now, I think
you're describing the murder
727
00:32:51,186 --> 00:32:52,986
I came across in my research.
728
00:32:52,988 --> 00:32:55,521
Now, the killer was a local guy
named James Belcher
729
00:32:55,523 --> 00:32:56,823
who was 25 years old.
730
00:32:56,825 --> 00:32:58,625
His grandparents actually
owned this property
731
00:32:58,627 --> 00:33:00,126
in the early 1900s.
732
00:33:00,128 --> 00:33:02,095
Belcher was separated
from his wife
733
00:33:02,097 --> 00:33:04,130
and had a mistress
by the name of Myrtle Taylor.
734
00:33:04,132 --> 00:33:06,199
She was only 19 years old.
735
00:33:06,201 --> 00:33:09,335
And on May 11, 1935,
Belcher walked into a restaurant
736
00:33:09,337 --> 00:33:11,071
and sees her with
another guy, having dinner.
737
00:33:11,073 --> 00:33:13,106
Well, he freaks out,
and he basically kidnaps her
738
00:33:13,108 --> 00:33:14,740
and forces her into the car.
739
00:33:14,742 --> 00:33:17,544
Now, what he does is pulls over
right on the road right here.
740
00:33:17,546 --> 00:33:19,613
Belcher grabs a gun and shoots
her twice in the head.
741
00:33:19,615 --> 00:33:21,013
Holy...
742
00:33:21,015 --> 00:33:23,383
I actually have a photo
of both of them.
743
00:33:28,756 --> 00:33:30,023
Is it possible
that's who you saw?
744
00:33:30,025 --> 00:33:32,826
I had a sketch done
of the girl I saw.
745
00:33:40,902 --> 00:33:43,669
I mean,
the nose, the eyes.
746
00:33:43,671 --> 00:33:45,838
I mean, the photo is not great,
but it's very possible
747
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:47,573
that this is the same girl.
748
00:33:47,575 --> 00:33:49,409
It looks exactly alike.
749
00:33:49,411 --> 00:33:51,044
So, Mom, you think
it could be the same girl?
750
00:33:51,046 --> 00:33:52,245
I do.
751
00:33:52,247 --> 00:33:53,346
You can see it, yeah.
752
00:33:53,348 --> 00:33:55,148
The mouth, to me.
753
00:33:58,119 --> 00:34:02,055
Another thing that I saw
was very disturbing,
754
00:34:02,057 --> 00:34:04,190
and it took place
a long time ago,
755
00:34:04,192 --> 00:34:06,593
and it was near
a covered wagon.
756
00:34:06,595 --> 00:34:09,162
Everybody is happy.
There's kids.
757
00:34:09,164 --> 00:34:11,464
They built a bonfire,
singing and dancing,
758
00:34:11,466 --> 00:34:13,133
having a good old time,
759
00:34:13,135 --> 00:34:16,269
and then I'm hearing
screaming and yelling,
760
00:34:16,271 --> 00:34:20,273
and I got that it was,
like, really awful murders,
761
00:34:20,275 --> 00:34:23,043
and I think it was safe
to assume that Native Americans
762
00:34:23,045 --> 00:34:25,011
had committed this attack
763
00:34:25,013 --> 00:34:27,414
on what looked like
a white family.
764
00:34:27,416 --> 00:34:29,883
I knew that these people
had been caught off guard.
765
00:34:29,885 --> 00:34:32,419
They totally did not
expect this to happen.
766
00:34:32,421 --> 00:34:35,088
There was a thing about
the Native Americans
767
00:34:35,090 --> 00:34:38,357
being all pissed off because
they felt this was sacred land.
768
00:34:38,359 --> 00:34:40,160
Do you have a time frame?
769
00:34:40,162 --> 00:34:43,430
The 1750s or '60s.
770
00:34:43,432 --> 00:34:44,797
Wow.
771
00:34:44,799 --> 00:34:46,299
I think I know exactly
what you're talking about
772
00:34:46,301 --> 00:34:47,767
and what you saw.
773
00:34:47,769 --> 00:34:50,236
This property is the site
of the most brutal Indian attack
774
00:34:50,238 --> 00:34:51,571
in the history of this area.
775
00:34:51,573 --> 00:34:54,441
In 1774,
a guy name Mitchell Clay
776
00:34:54,443 --> 00:34:56,843
bought over 800 acres
and moved onto the property here
777
00:34:56,845 --> 00:34:58,912
with his wife, Phoebe,
and 14 kids.
778
00:34:58,914 --> 00:35:00,647
Now, they were the first
white settlers
779
00:35:00,649 --> 00:35:03,049
in this part of the country.
780
00:35:03,051 --> 00:35:06,586
I got a picture of the house
they lived in, actually.
781
00:35:06,588 --> 00:35:10,790
Now, in 1783, Clay went hunting
with his two oldest sons
782
00:35:10,792 --> 00:35:12,125
and left everybody else home.
783
00:35:12,127 --> 00:35:14,728
As soon as he left,
a group of Shawnee Indians
784
00:35:14,730 --> 00:35:16,196
stormed the property.
785
00:35:16,198 --> 00:35:19,365
First, they shot and killed
Clay's 17-year-old son, Bartley.
786
00:35:19,367 --> 00:35:22,802
Then they slashed their teenage
daughter, Tabitha, to death.
787
00:35:22,804 --> 00:35:24,070
Then they scalped
both these kids
788
00:35:24,072 --> 00:35:26,606
and then kidnapped their
16-year-old brother, Ezekiel,
789
00:35:26,608 --> 00:35:28,275
and took him to Ohio.
790
00:35:28,277 --> 00:35:30,610
When Clay found out about this,
he rounded up a posse,
791
00:35:30,612 --> 00:35:33,146
and he went to Ohio
to try and save his son,
792
00:35:33,148 --> 00:35:35,415
but by the time he got there,
it was too late.
793
00:35:35,417 --> 00:35:37,884
Ezekiel had been tortured
and burned at the stake.
794
00:35:37,886 --> 00:35:40,053
Holy...
795
00:35:40,055 --> 00:35:42,956
They mentioned the attack
was retaliation for the land.
796
00:35:42,958 --> 00:35:45,325
The expert I spoke to told me
that the Shawnee Indians
797
00:35:45,327 --> 00:35:47,894
didn't actually live here
when the attack happened,
798
00:35:47,896 --> 00:35:51,431
but they did have a settlement
here way back in the 1400s.
799
00:35:51,433 --> 00:35:55,368
In fact, back in 1989, Chris'
family was excavating land here,
800
00:35:55,370 --> 00:35:58,638
and they uncovered human remains
that belonged to those Indians.
801
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,808
They found more than 20 bodies,
13 of which were kids.
802
00:36:01,810 --> 00:36:03,376
Now, there's a good reason
to believe that
803
00:36:03,378 --> 00:36:05,111
there were more bodies
still here.
804
00:36:05,113 --> 00:36:09,950
I actually have a photo of one
of the remains they uncovered.
805
00:36:09,952 --> 00:36:11,718
- Wow.
- Yeah.
806
00:36:11,720 --> 00:36:14,020
It's hard to believe that
something like this happened
807
00:36:14,022 --> 00:36:15,955
on this piece of land.
808
00:36:15,957 --> 00:36:18,558
Maybe, it is an amusement park
for the dead.
809
00:36:21,396 --> 00:36:23,529
So now, are these
Native Americans still here?
810
00:36:23,531 --> 00:36:26,466
Yes.
811
00:36:26,468 --> 00:36:28,735
They're upset and active.
812
00:36:28,737 --> 00:36:32,572
They didn't want us here
doing the investigation.
813
00:36:32,574 --> 00:36:35,475
Possibly, at times, they would
make the living here
814
00:36:35,477 --> 00:36:38,745
feel intimidated and nervous.
815
00:36:38,747 --> 00:36:42,882
Unfortunately, one of the things
that they were indicating
816
00:36:42,884 --> 00:36:46,753
that they'd resorted to
is making the living sick here,
817
00:36:46,755 --> 00:36:48,788
putting emotions
onto the living people,
818
00:36:48,790 --> 00:36:51,824
trying to get the living
to hurt one another
819
00:36:51,826 --> 00:36:54,027
and causing accidents,
820
00:36:54,029 --> 00:36:56,730
and one of the things
that I got was
821
00:36:56,732 --> 00:36:59,565
that a male associated
with the property
822
00:36:59,567 --> 00:37:03,169
was having a heart attack
or heart issues.
823
00:37:03,171 --> 00:37:04,637
I was hoping we wouldn't
have to talk about this,
824
00:37:04,639 --> 00:37:06,439
but, Jewell, can you
tell Amy about your son?
825
00:37:06,441 --> 00:37:10,643
He had 26 heart attacks
before he passed away
826
00:37:10,645 --> 00:37:12,312
with a massive
heart attack.
827
00:37:12,314 --> 00:37:14,447
And he was, like, 51?
828
00:37:14,449 --> 00:37:15,915
And he lived on the property
at the time.
829
00:37:15,917 --> 00:37:17,883
- Yes.
- Wow.
830
00:37:17,885 --> 00:37:21,288
I actually have a photo of her
son that they provided me with.
831
00:37:21,290 --> 00:37:22,689
Wow.
832
00:37:22,691 --> 00:37:24,123
Okay.
833
00:37:24,125 --> 00:37:25,925
I saw him during my walk.
834
00:37:28,297 --> 00:37:30,397
Does it make you happy
or kind of sad?
835
00:37:30,399 --> 00:37:33,033
Makes me --
I'm okay with it.
836
00:37:33,035 --> 00:37:37,704
I think he's here protecting
and protecting my mother.
837
00:37:37,706 --> 00:37:40,873
All right,
so what else?
838
00:37:40,875 --> 00:37:42,942
Well, then, I went over
to the house.
839
00:37:42,944 --> 00:37:44,511
And that's where
you live, Jewell.
840
00:37:44,513 --> 00:37:45,779
Yes.
841
00:37:45,781 --> 00:37:48,214
I got that the Native Americans
are very active there,
842
00:37:48,216 --> 00:37:49,683
and because of that,
843
00:37:49,685 --> 00:37:54,020
I think that there would
be experiences sometimes.
844
00:37:54,022 --> 00:37:56,489
I got that they can show
themselves and interact
845
00:37:56,491 --> 00:37:58,224
with their surroundings.
846
00:37:58,226 --> 00:38:01,461
I did see something being
moved around in the house.
847
00:38:01,463 --> 00:38:02,962
Tell Amy what goes on.
848
00:38:02,964 --> 00:38:05,498
Sometimes, I'll lay something
down and go to another room,
849
00:38:05,500 --> 00:38:08,034
and when I come back,
it's in a different place.
850
00:38:08,036 --> 00:38:12,705
Sometimes, it's gone, and then
a couple days, it shows back up.
851
00:38:12,707 --> 00:38:15,375
Now, you had told me
you saw an apparition
852
00:38:15,377 --> 00:38:16,642
of a Native American warrior.
853
00:38:16,644 --> 00:38:17,911
Yes.
854
00:38:17,913 --> 00:38:21,981
He had no clothes, was
holding something in his hand.
855
00:38:21,983 --> 00:38:24,317
The big question, I think,
is, what do these Indians
856
00:38:24,319 --> 00:38:25,719
want from these guys?
857
00:38:25,721 --> 00:38:27,654
So basically,
the Native Americans believe
858
00:38:27,656 --> 00:38:30,123
that this is their land,
859
00:38:30,125 --> 00:38:33,593
and they want it back, and
they don't want anybody here.
860
00:38:33,595 --> 00:38:39,298
Their goal is
to get them off this land.
861
00:38:39,300 --> 00:38:44,037
I do know that they did possibly
affect your son's health,
862
00:38:44,039 --> 00:38:46,406
so that's troublesome.
863
00:38:46,408 --> 00:38:49,342
I feel
that we need to maybe see
864
00:38:49,344 --> 00:38:51,677
if there's some way
we can resolve this.
865
00:38:51,679 --> 00:38:54,647
If it's moving her off the
property, that's what we'll do.
866
00:38:54,649 --> 00:38:58,117
I don't feel it's me
that they want off the property.
867
00:39:17,105 --> 00:39:19,138
So, Chris, I know that one thing
you're passionate about
868
00:39:19,140 --> 00:39:22,341
is honoring your dad's memory
and keeping his dream alive,
869
00:39:22,343 --> 00:39:25,945
and that means making this park
safe for volunteers, guests
870
00:39:25,947 --> 00:39:27,480
and, most of all, your mom,
871
00:39:27,482 --> 00:39:28,615
but to see what
that's going to take,
872
00:39:28,617 --> 00:39:32,285
I'm going to turn
it over to Amy.
873
00:39:32,287 --> 00:39:34,086
It's really hard
for me to say,
874
00:39:34,088 --> 00:39:37,557
"Stop doing events
and investigations here,"
875
00:39:37,559 --> 00:39:41,527
because I feel like
it should be investigated.
876
00:39:41,529 --> 00:39:46,933
What I'm thinking is maybe
that you kind of really screen
877
00:39:46,935 --> 00:39:48,901
who's coming here
and why
878
00:39:48,903 --> 00:39:51,437
because you really
don't want antagonistic people
879
00:39:51,439 --> 00:39:54,541
that are, like, you know,
"We're going to drink and party,
880
00:39:54,543 --> 00:39:56,543
and we're going to,
like, hunt ghosts."
881
00:39:56,545 --> 00:39:59,412
You know what I mean?
882
00:39:59,414 --> 00:40:02,481
And I think that after
every event
883
00:40:02,483 --> 00:40:04,216
and every investigation,
884
00:40:04,218 --> 00:40:07,786
an offering needs to be left
because the Native Americans
885
00:40:07,788 --> 00:40:10,657
do not feel respected
at this time.
886
00:40:10,659 --> 00:40:12,525
So now, when they make
the offerings,
887
00:40:12,527 --> 00:40:13,593
do they have to say anything?
888
00:40:13,595 --> 00:40:15,361
Is there any kind of a ritual?
889
00:40:15,363 --> 00:40:18,364
They'll be guided
as to what to bring.
890
00:40:18,366 --> 00:40:23,636
Like, these Native Americans
are very hands-on, I guess,
891
00:40:23,638 --> 00:40:26,706
guiding what they want
and how they want it.
892
00:40:26,708 --> 00:40:28,374
You're nodding your head
yes like you know
893
00:40:28,376 --> 00:40:30,409
what she's talking about.
Yes.
894
00:40:30,411 --> 00:40:32,578
Do you know what
she's talking about? I do.
895
00:40:32,580 --> 00:40:34,881
Then, you guys are ahead
of the game, then.
896
00:40:34,883 --> 00:40:36,149
What about these
physical attacks
897
00:40:36,151 --> 00:40:37,717
that are happening
to people that come here?
898
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:39,419
Will that stop with
the offerings?
899
00:40:39,421 --> 00:40:41,888
Yeah, the offerings
are going to help a lot.
900
00:40:41,890 --> 00:40:43,756
Okay, so what else
do they need to do?
901
00:40:43,758 --> 00:40:45,825
As far as the dead here,
902
00:40:45,827 --> 00:40:51,831
I would like to see at least
the murdered girl moved on.
903
00:40:51,833 --> 00:40:54,967
You just need to have
a medium come and call out
904
00:40:54,969 --> 00:40:57,036
to her and move her on.
905
00:40:57,038 --> 00:40:58,705
My question now is, are you
going to take Amy's advice
906
00:40:58,707 --> 00:41:00,406
and do what
she's telling you?
907
00:41:00,408 --> 00:41:02,008
- Absolutely.
- Yes.
908
00:41:02,010 --> 00:41:07,246
And I know 100% that they
will be followed through with.
909
00:41:07,248 --> 00:41:10,383
I think it's a big relief
that we know at least
910
00:41:10,385 --> 00:41:12,652
we can keep
everybody safe.
911
00:41:12,654 --> 00:41:14,454
Okay, how do you think
your father would have felt?
912
00:41:14,456 --> 00:41:15,989
I think he's pleased.
913
00:41:15,991 --> 00:41:18,191
I know he's happy.
914
00:41:18,193 --> 00:41:19,592
I can feel him.
915
00:41:19,594 --> 00:41:21,193
That takes a burden
off of him.
916
00:41:21,195 --> 00:41:23,863
It takes a burden
off of us.
917
00:41:23,865 --> 00:41:26,699
It just totally
relieves me.
918
00:41:26,701 --> 00:41:30,169
I'm just so happy,
and I know he's happy.
919
00:41:30,171 --> 00:41:32,939
Chris and Jewell have a lot
of work ahead of them,
920
00:41:32,941 --> 00:41:35,808
but if they contact a medium
to remove the dead girl,
921
00:41:35,810 --> 00:41:38,278
screen people
who want to visit the park
922
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:41,614
and make consistent offerings
to the Native Americans,
923
00:41:41,616 --> 00:41:44,617
Chris will be able to keep
his dad's dream alive,
924
00:41:44,619 --> 00:41:49,756
and maybe, one day, Lake Shawnee
will be back open for business.
925
00:41:49,806 --> 00:41:54,356
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