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There is a lot of
physical phenomena.
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There is a vortex here.
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It's just out of control.
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I'm getting attacked.
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She's, like, praying and crying
and praying and crying.
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I saw a dark figure
standing right there.
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They can kill
the living person here.
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He died instantly.
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It's not okay to be
in this location at all.
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This is not a good situation.
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My name is Amy Allan.
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There is death here.
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Don't want to go down there.
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I see dead people.
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They hide in the walls,
and they watch.
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I speak to dead people...
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She is definitely
a serial killer.
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...and they speak to me.
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She is going to torture them.
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But there is only one way
to know if my findings are real.
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They were all murdered.
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I rely on my partner.
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I'm Steve Di Schiavi.
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I'm a retired New York
City homicide detective.
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So is this the only time
you've been physically attacked?
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And I know every person,
every house has secrets.
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There is no question in my mind
that he was talking about Satan.
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It's my job to reveal them.
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Who do you think possessed you?
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But Steve and I never speak...
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We never communicate
during an investigation.
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...until the very end.
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Well, you're not gonna
wanna see this.
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When we uncover if it's
safe for you to stay...
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Hell no.
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Or time to get out.
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Everyone is in jeopardy.
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I'm in the small town
of Elkview, West Virginia.
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It's about 15 miles
north of Charleston.
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I got a call from a mother
of two named Sara.
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Now, she says something
in her house is attacking her,
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scaring her kids,
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and she thinks someone
is gonna get hurt.
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She sounded really bad,
and I'm hoping Amy
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and I can help her out.
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Before Amy arrives,
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I clear the area of
any leading information.
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This house is filled
with family photos,
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so it's important that
I cover or remove them all.
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When I'm done, the location will
be ready for tonight's walk.
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Boy. Boy. Boy.
Boy. Boy.
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There is at least
three time periods
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of different dead people here,
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and they're stuck
with each other,
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so they're always fighting.
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So it's kind of a mess.
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This location here is kind of
caught in the crosshairs
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of this crazy...
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It's really bad.
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You know, Sara, when we spoke
on the phone,
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you sounded terrified.
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What the hell's going on
in this house?
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I'm at my breaking point.
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The activity now
has got violent,
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and it's just out of control.
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I'm getting attacked.
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My boys are being scared.
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We need help.
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If something can't be done,
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it's gonna tear
my family apart.
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All right. So who exactly
lives in the house?
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Myself. We have my husband,
Mark, our youngest boy,
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Tanner, he's 10,
and we have Lane that is 13.
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All right, so how long have
you guys been living here?
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We bought the house in 2002.
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We had Tanner in 2006.
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By the time that he was 2,
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that's when we really
started noticing things
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going on that
we could not explain.
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- Do you think he caused it?
- Yes.
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Nothing happened here
until he was born.
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What type of experiences
are you guys having?
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We've heard voices.
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We have seen things
move on their own.
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We've seen shadow figures.
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We'll have nightmares,
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and it's finally
getting physical.
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We are...scared.
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Now, is everybody in the house
being affected?
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To some degree.
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But it seems like
I'm the one that's seeing
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and hearing
the majority of it.
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So why don't you just move?
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We just really love this place,
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and I want to fight
for what's ours.
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Something going on here.
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There is a vortex here,
but it's huge.
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It's massive.
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Dead people can come and go
through it, also beings,
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entities, like, things
that have never been human.
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It's very concentrated
energy, very focused.
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This is too much energy for
living people to be exposed to.
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Being near this vortex
can cause a lot
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of physical issues
with the living.
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You're not gonna be
able to sleep here.
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You're gonna have...
insane dreams here.
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You're gonna lose time here.
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You're gonna see crazy...
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It's not okay to be
in this location at all.
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What's going on down here?
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I was down here one day,
and I go to walk up the stairs.
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I see the bottom half of
an apparition as plain as day.
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Where were you
when you saw this?
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At the back door.
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Any chance it could've
been one of the kids?
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They were upstairs.
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After I saw the apparition,
I got this intense pain.
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It felt like lightning had went
from my head to my toes.
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All right. So what else?
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I have heard, say, two people
having a conversation,
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whispering, almost like
they didn't want me
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to hear what they were saying.
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Does it sound like
it's a man and a woman,
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a couple of men,
couple of women?
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It varies. I've heard all.
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Could the TV be on upstairs,
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and it's just filtering
down into --
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There is no television
on at these times.
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This was late at night.
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We don't leave TVs on.
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Okay.
What else is going on?
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One night, it was, like,
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someone was shaking
the door violently.
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Could somebody have
gotten into the garage?
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That was my first thought,
and I was ready to call 9-1-1.
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Did you investigate it?
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I actually was too scared.
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Wow.
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There's Native Americans.
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This is theirs, man.
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I honestly thought
they were all men,
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but I'm seeing all of these
Native American women
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here with children.
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I think that the living would
have experiences of feeling,
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like, back it up.
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I think that the living
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would have a hard time
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being down here for very long.
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They would definitely
have experiences,
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hearing children
laughing and playing,
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hearing women's voices.
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There is a lot of
physical phenomena.
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The Native Americans are
constantly, like, moving things.
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They don't want anything
down here or person,
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and it really
bothers them, you know?
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They want it all out.
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Okay. So what's going on?
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The other night, I had a dream
that there was a man
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that was chasing me
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down the stairs
with a knife.
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Okay. How often are you
having those?
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Several times a month.
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All right.
Listen, I have nightmares.
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Why is it paranormal for you?
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These nightmares have just
started this year
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when the activity
really started ramping up.
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And I've never had nightmares
like this before.
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Okay. All right.
What else is going on in here?
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One night, I woke up
and there was just a shadow
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leaning over me.
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Where was the shadow?
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It was along that wall
right there.
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It couldn't have been somebody
outside casting a shadow. No, no.
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At nighttime, I always
shut our blinds.
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Bad dreams.
Seeing shadow figures in here.
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What else is going on?
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There is times that
I've woke up, that it feels like
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I've been in a car accident.
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It feels like someone has taken
a baseball bat to my ribcage.
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Do you ever see
any markings from it?
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- We've taken some pictures.
- Okay.
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This is my calf.
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I mean, this is bad.
You know that. Yeah.
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Anything else physical
like that ever happened?
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I'll go to bed feeling fine.
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I will wake up in the middle
of the night
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and have a migraine to where
it will make me so sick,
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to where I'll get nauseous,
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my head just feels like
somebody has just caved it in.
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How the hell are you
living like this?
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It's really scary sometimes.
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And I'm just trying
to get through it,
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make everything
okay for my boys,
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my husband and just
try to block it out.
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I see a woman here
with straight dark hair.
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Is this a living person?
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I think it's a living person.
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I feel like she's being
beat up, like,
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physically assaulted
by a dead male.
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She's, like, praying and crying
and praying and crying.
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This person in here
is sick already
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and is sicker
because of living here
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because it's such a bad
place to be physically.
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- So, Lane, how old are you?
- I'm 13.
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So I was talking to mom.
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She says things in the house
are pretty scary. Yes.
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Are you having trouble
sleeping here?
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I've had nightmares in here,
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and that's caused me
to not sleep.
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So, Lane, what have you seen
that you can't explain?
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Downstairs, I saw the rocking
chair rocking by itself.
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Now, Lane, is it possible
one of your dogs
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might have ran by
the chair and hit it?
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No, because it's only happened
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whenever I'm down
there long.
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Okay. What else?
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One time, I saw a dark
figure standing
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right there looking at me
through the doorway.
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It scared me so bad, my heart
just, like, leapt out of me.
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So what did you see?
What did it look like?
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Like a man.
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It was, like,
darker than the room.
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Do you think what's here
could be dangerous?
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Yeah.
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Boy.
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I'm seeing a group of men.
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They look weird.
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They're dressed up
like pirates or bandits.
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It makes them look
really creepy,
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but they're all in shadow except
their eyes are white, like,
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this intense,
bright, white light
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comes out of their eyes
and puts them into shadow.
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Living people here
are seeing them.
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They wake up at night,
and they're being stared at.
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Very scary.
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Mark, talking to your wife,
she said that the activity
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kind of started
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maybe two years after
your youngest son was born.
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I mean, did that
make sense to you?
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Yes.
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There is something going on
with the youngest.
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Any experiences you could
tell me about?
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Absolutely. Yeah.
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We were all down
in the kitchen. Okay.
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And there was this
real loud beep.
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It was really, I mean, you know,
it made your ears ring.
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Now, Mark, smoke detectors
make that noise
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when the battery
is starting to go.
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Was that the case here?
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I searched everything down
there, I mean, everything.
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There was nothing.
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Nothing logical
could explain it.
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Okay. Anything else happen?
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One time, I came in and fell
asleep on the love seat
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and had my head back.
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And it just felt like
somebody grabbed my jaw
257
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and slammed it shut.
258
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- You sure it wasn't a dream?
- Yeah.
259
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And then afterward,
the bottom of my chin tingled
260
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and then my teeth
started hurting.
261
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I'm like, "Holy crap."
I mean, it hurt my teeth.
262
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Working with Amy, knowing that
things are really physical here,
263
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this is not a good thing.
- Yeah.
264
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I worry every day, especially
when I'm out of town.
265
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It's tough.
266
00:13:13,493 --> 00:13:17,128
I'm really worried about
the boys being mentally scarred.
267
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These pirate bandit people
268
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are causing a lot
of stress for the living.
269
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One of them tried to talk to me.
270
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It made this weird noise.
271
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I've seen them, like,
creeping up on a male here
272
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as he's going up these stairs,
273
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and there's a little dead guy
274
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jumping on this
living dude's back.
275
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This living guy just explodes.
276
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He's feeling choked.
277
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He's feeling like the wind's
being knocked out of him.
278
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He's feeling pushed.
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A lot of really
brutal experiences.
280
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- Tanner, how old are you?
-10.
281
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So, Tanner, when I was
talking to your mom today,
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she told me that you were
having a tough time
283
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with the activity in the house.
284
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- Does that sound right to you?
- Yeah.
285
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Any experiences
you could tell me about?
286
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In the TV room,
the ceiling fan light,
287
00:14:17,624 --> 00:14:23,161
it was off then
it flickered on by itself.
288
00:14:23,163 --> 00:14:25,496
- That kind of scared you.
- Yeah.
289
00:14:25,498 --> 00:14:26,764
Anything else?
290
00:14:26,766 --> 00:14:30,067
I had a headache that
291
00:14:30,069 --> 00:14:34,739
progressively got stronger.
292
00:14:34,741 --> 00:14:37,542
And you think this was caused
by the paranormal?
293
00:14:37,544 --> 00:14:39,010
Yeah.
294
00:14:39,012 --> 00:14:40,812
Did you have them ever again?
295
00:14:40,814 --> 00:14:41,879
Yes.
296
00:14:41,881 --> 00:14:43,681
Your mom mentioned
she gets headaches.
297
00:14:43,683 --> 00:14:45,749
You ever been around mom
when she got them?
298
00:14:45,751 --> 00:14:46,684
Yeah.
299
00:14:46,686 --> 00:14:50,288
I got them the same time
as she did.
300
00:14:50,290 --> 00:14:52,223
If things are so bad here
for everybody else
301
00:14:52,225 --> 00:14:55,893
and they've got to move,
would you be okay with that?
302
00:14:55,895 --> 00:14:56,895
Yeah.
303
00:15:00,900 --> 00:15:03,568
There is about
two or three women here.
304
00:15:03,570 --> 00:15:05,636
I think they're whores.
305
00:15:05,638 --> 00:15:08,372
I guess they probably had
Syphilis, I'm thinking.
306
00:15:08,374 --> 00:15:09,640
They're rotting.
307
00:15:09,642 --> 00:15:11,576
One of them doesn't
have a nose, you know?
308
00:15:11,578 --> 00:15:13,378
The other one is, like,
missing, you know,
309
00:15:13,380 --> 00:15:15,679
pretty much her whole face.
310
00:15:15,681 --> 00:15:17,548
And they look scarier than...
311
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You know if they interact with
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00:15:24,891 --> 00:15:26,090
the living in any way?
313
00:15:26,092 --> 00:15:30,194
These whores are pulling
memories out.
314
00:15:30,196 --> 00:15:31,863
I think that the living
have headaches from that,
315
00:15:31,865 --> 00:15:33,865
and I think that they have
nightmares from that.
316
00:15:33,867 --> 00:15:35,533
It's very unhealthy.
317
00:15:41,207 --> 00:15:45,376
They like this room.
318
00:15:45,378 --> 00:15:48,613
They're attracted to this
living person here
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'cause they're
a physical medium.
320
00:15:51,551 --> 00:15:54,952
These whores think that this
person has been neglected.
321
00:15:54,954 --> 00:15:58,289
They basically want
to adopt this person.
322
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- Is this person in danger?
- Yeah.
323
00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:03,094
The whores have been
attached to this person
324
00:16:03,096 --> 00:16:05,262
for their whole life
and make bad...
325
00:16:05,264 --> 00:16:10,301
happen, and they can kill
the living person here.
326
00:16:22,699 --> 00:16:26,801
Look, Elkview is a tiny town,
barely over 1,200 people.
327
00:16:26,803 --> 00:16:28,469
So when I made my usual calls,
328
00:16:28,471 --> 00:16:31,439
just about everyone knew
Sara and Mark's property.
329
00:16:31,441 --> 00:16:33,307
I'm heading over to meet
with an archivist who says,
330
00:16:33,309 --> 00:16:34,809
one of the original owners
331
00:16:34,811 --> 00:16:36,711
suffered a lot
of tragedies there.
332
00:16:42,218 --> 00:16:43,617
Now, Matt, you mentioned
on the phone
333
00:16:43,619 --> 00:16:45,386
that the Pauley family
suffered some tragedies
334
00:16:45,388 --> 00:16:47,255
while they were on
my clients' property.
335
00:16:47,257 --> 00:16:49,089
When did they get
my clients' property?
336
00:16:49,091 --> 00:16:52,827
Daniel Pauley bought your
clients' property in about 1858.
337
00:16:52,829 --> 00:16:54,762
So how much property
did he have?
338
00:16:54,764 --> 00:16:57,898
Well, he purchased 670 acres.
339
00:16:57,900 --> 00:16:59,333
Wow.
340
00:16:59,335 --> 00:17:01,602
Does he move on the property
right then and there? Yes. Yes.
341
00:17:01,604 --> 00:17:03,270
He and his wife, Cinthya,
and their eight children,
342
00:17:03,272 --> 00:17:06,207
they moved their immediately
and built a house.
343
00:17:06,209 --> 00:17:08,676
You mentioned on the phone,
there were some deaths
344
00:17:08,678 --> 00:17:10,911
in regards to the family.
What happened?
345
00:17:10,913 --> 00:17:13,748
Cinthya gives birth to
a baby boy named Benjamin.
346
00:17:13,750 --> 00:17:18,018
But unfortunately, Benjamin dies
when he's only 4 months old.
347
00:17:18,020 --> 00:17:19,287
4 months?
348
00:17:19,289 --> 00:17:21,089
Yeah, same year they move
onto the property.
349
00:17:21,091 --> 00:17:22,490
This is the death record of it?
350
00:17:22,492 --> 00:17:24,091
- That's right.
- What happens after that?
351
00:17:24,093 --> 00:17:25,259
Several years later,
352
00:17:25,261 --> 00:17:27,328
the American Civil War is
going on.
353
00:17:27,330 --> 00:17:30,631
Daniel goes off
to fight for the North.
354
00:17:30,633 --> 00:17:32,499
I mean, how old is
he at this point? He's 50.
355
00:17:32,501 --> 00:17:34,368
All right.
So let me get this straight.
356
00:17:34,370 --> 00:17:36,304
The guy's 50,
joins the Union Army.
357
00:17:36,306 --> 00:17:37,438
That's correct.
358
00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:39,973
And we do know that the company
he served in lost
359
00:17:39,975 --> 00:17:43,711
about 200 men to disease,
probably dysentery.
360
00:17:43,713 --> 00:17:45,780
And a lot of that was due
to the, you know,
361
00:17:45,782 --> 00:17:48,182
the sanitation conditions.
362
00:17:48,184 --> 00:17:51,051
So in these camps, it just was
not a very healthy place to be.
363
00:17:51,053 --> 00:17:55,990
And that's
a horrible way to go. Yes.
364
00:17:55,992 --> 00:17:58,126
I'm seeing that
group of bandits,
365
00:17:58,128 --> 00:18:01,495
and they don't look good.
366
00:18:01,497 --> 00:18:03,464
They all got sick,
and they all died
367
00:18:03,466 --> 00:18:06,500
horrible deaths
from this illness.
368
00:18:06,502 --> 00:18:09,203
And they are damned
to wander here.
369
00:18:12,775 --> 00:18:15,509
The leader of these bandits
370
00:18:15,511 --> 00:18:19,413
is a colonial rogue soldier.
371
00:18:19,415 --> 00:18:20,948
So can you describe this guy?
372
00:18:20,950 --> 00:18:24,685
He looks to be in his 40s,
I would guess,
373
00:18:24,687 --> 00:18:27,154
very tall and he had on this
374
00:18:27,156 --> 00:18:31,526
very rich velvet blue
375
00:18:31,528 --> 00:18:33,360
Military jacket.
376
00:18:33,362 --> 00:18:37,098
He was in the military,
and I believe he went rogue.
377
00:18:42,505 --> 00:18:44,105
How does it go for him
after that?
378
00:18:44,107 --> 00:18:46,574
He's able to come home
to Cinthya and the children
379
00:18:46,576 --> 00:18:50,278
unscathed at the end
of the war in 1865.
380
00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:55,783
As time wears on, though,
on October 5, 1888, he dies.
381
00:18:55,785 --> 00:18:57,051
- Do we know how old he was?
- Yes.
382
00:18:57,053 --> 00:18:59,253
He was 73 years old.
383
00:18:59,255 --> 00:19:01,521
Okay.
What are we thinking, stroke?
384
00:19:01,523 --> 00:19:03,790
More than likely a stroke.
385
00:19:03,792 --> 00:19:04,925
All right.
So Daniel is dead.
386
00:19:04,927 --> 00:19:06,294
Does Cinthya remain
on the property?
387
00:19:06,296 --> 00:19:08,462
She does, and she
winds up dying in
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00:19:08,464 --> 00:19:11,131
February of 1890
when she's 72.
389
00:19:11,133 --> 00:19:13,334
- And on my clients' property?
- That's correct.
390
00:19:13,336 --> 00:19:14,802
What happens with the property?
391
00:19:14,804 --> 00:19:17,804
Well, it stays in the family
and it is Daniel's grandson,
392
00:19:17,806 --> 00:19:20,541
George, who actually
buys the property.
393
00:19:20,543 --> 00:19:25,412
In 1894, he and his wife
have a young son named Romey
394
00:19:25,414 --> 00:19:28,482
who dies before
he's even a year old.
395
00:19:28,484 --> 00:19:29,884
What happens after that?
396
00:19:29,886 --> 00:19:32,820
Well, George actually
is the final chapter
397
00:19:32,822 --> 00:19:34,889
of the Pauley tragedies.
398
00:19:34,891 --> 00:19:37,824
In 1906, when he's
only 36 years old,
399
00:19:37,826 --> 00:19:41,428
he dies very quickly,
very mysteriously.
400
00:19:41,430 --> 00:19:46,500
All we have to go on
is his obituary.
401
00:19:46,502 --> 00:19:48,569
So we don't know if it was
an accident, illness.
402
00:19:48,571 --> 00:19:50,471
It doesn't tell us
what happened to him.
403
00:19:50,473 --> 00:19:52,473
But we do know
it was very unexpected.
404
00:19:55,712 --> 00:19:58,145
I think there are so many
dead people here
405
00:19:58,147 --> 00:20:01,115
because of the vortex.
406
00:20:01,117 --> 00:20:04,986
Dead people can come
and go through it, also beings,
407
00:20:04,988 --> 00:20:07,688
entities, like, things
that have never been human.
408
00:20:07,690 --> 00:20:11,325
They can come and go through it.
409
00:20:11,327 --> 00:20:14,395
And how would the living
be affected by the vortex?
410
00:20:14,397 --> 00:20:16,597
They would feel anxious.
411
00:20:16,599 --> 00:20:19,500
They would have
equilibrium issues.
412
00:20:19,502 --> 00:20:23,203
It could cause
long-term illnesses,
413
00:20:23,205 --> 00:20:25,872
also neurological damage.
414
00:20:25,874 --> 00:20:28,676
This thing is really dangerous.
415
00:20:28,678 --> 00:20:30,745
I think that it can kill people.
416
00:20:34,817 --> 00:20:37,318
A local EMT just called me.
417
00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:40,021
Now, he says Elkview has been
completely flooded
418
00:20:40,023 --> 00:20:41,789
several times.
419
00:20:41,791 --> 00:20:44,558
It turns out, one of the most
recent ones was deadly,
420
00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:45,960
and one of the victims died
421
00:20:45,962 --> 00:20:47,361
right near
Mark and Sara's house.
422
00:20:54,903 --> 00:20:55,902
Now, Tim,
thanks for meeting me.
423
00:20:55,904 --> 00:20:58,339
I really appreciate that.
424
00:20:58,341 --> 00:21:01,041
You mentioned on the phone that
one of my clients' neighbors
425
00:21:01,043 --> 00:21:03,577
perished during this big flood.
What happened?
426
00:21:03,579 --> 00:21:05,512
Little Sandy Creek
runs along the property
427
00:21:05,514 --> 00:21:07,448
that you're investigating.
428
00:21:07,450 --> 00:21:11,218
In June of 1998, a big powerful
storm hit the Elkview area.
429
00:21:11,220 --> 00:21:13,054
Okay. So how bad did it get?
430
00:21:13,056 --> 00:21:16,057
İt got pretty deep, and it
destroyed a lot of property
431
00:21:16,059 --> 00:21:17,558
and took some lives.
432
00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:19,927
Wow. All right.
433
00:21:19,929 --> 00:21:21,795
So obviously, the water rose.
434
00:21:21,797 --> 00:21:24,265
What were the flood levels
at my clients' property?
435
00:21:24,267 --> 00:21:27,101
Wow.
It got really high. Okay.
436
00:21:27,103 --> 00:21:28,669
So what do we know
about the poor guy
437
00:21:28,671 --> 00:21:30,071
that died in this flood?
438
00:21:30,073 --> 00:21:32,406
Well, Mr. Richard Varium, he was
an 83-year-old guy that lived
439
00:21:32,408 --> 00:21:33,607
about 1,000 feet from
the property
440
00:21:33,609 --> 00:21:34,942
you're investigating.
441
00:21:34,944 --> 00:21:37,010
I have a picture of Mr. Varium
when he was younger.
442
00:21:37,012 --> 00:21:41,148
He had been living alone
for quite a while.
443
00:21:41,150 --> 00:21:44,852
He was bound to a wheelchair
and also blind.
444
00:21:44,854 --> 00:21:46,887
He was in a bad situation.
445
00:21:46,889 --> 00:21:48,322
What happened?
446
00:21:48,324 --> 00:21:51,525
Family tried to get him out,
and they got him to the porch
447
00:21:51,527 --> 00:21:53,861
and realized that the water
was too swift, muddy,
448
00:21:53,863 --> 00:21:56,097
with a lot of debris
and then went to get help.
449
00:21:56,099 --> 00:21:57,898
By the time they got back,
450
00:21:57,900 --> 00:22:00,100
he had washed away
along with the porch.
451
00:22:00,102 --> 00:22:02,502
And he was found
downstream about 1/4
452
00:22:02,504 --> 00:22:03,604
of a mile in some trees.
453
00:22:08,110 --> 00:22:13,747
There was something about
water issues here and flooding
454
00:22:13,749 --> 00:22:17,351
'cause I saw water
come down, like, a wall.
455
00:22:22,859 --> 00:22:25,859
These water issues
are due directly
456
00:22:25,861 --> 00:22:28,462
to the paranormal
phenomena here.
457
00:22:28,464 --> 00:22:31,065
That's not good.
458
00:22:31,067 --> 00:22:33,334
The problem here is the land.
459
00:22:33,336 --> 00:22:38,538
Exposure to the land
seems to trap the dead here
460
00:22:38,540 --> 00:22:43,143
or bring them back
to be trapped here.
461
00:22:48,317 --> 00:22:50,283
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462
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463
00:22:52,889 --> 00:22:53,954
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464
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465
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466
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467
00:23:09,789 --> 00:23:11,889
So far, I've got a family
being tormented
468
00:23:11,891 --> 00:23:16,827
in their own home on a property
where at least five people died.
469
00:23:16,829 --> 00:23:20,264
But I want to see
if there is anything else.
470
00:23:20,266 --> 00:23:22,299
Searching through old records,
471
00:23:22,301 --> 00:23:25,402
I find an article about another
member of the Pauley family.
472
00:23:25,404 --> 00:23:28,439
It turns out he was murdered
right next to Sara
473
00:23:28,441 --> 00:23:31,175
and Mark's property.
474
00:23:31,177 --> 00:23:33,110
I'm heading over to meet
historian and old friend,
475
00:23:33,112 --> 00:23:34,711
Jim Casto.
476
00:23:34,713 --> 00:23:36,647
He's looked into
this case for me
477
00:23:36,649 --> 00:23:39,483
and says it's got all
the ingredients for violence --
478
00:23:39,485 --> 00:23:41,552
friendship, love, and betrayal.
479
00:23:47,293 --> 00:23:49,426
Well, Jim, it's good
to see you again.
480
00:23:49,428 --> 00:23:52,496
Now, the homicide, it happened
right near my clients' property,
481
00:23:52,498 --> 00:23:54,298
and it involved
one of the Pauleys.
482
00:23:54,300 --> 00:23:55,665
So what can you
tell me about it?
483
00:23:55,667 --> 00:23:59,536
The victim was 27-year-old
Clarence Pauley,
484
00:23:59,538 --> 00:24:02,439
and he and his wife
and his three kids lived
485
00:24:02,441 --> 00:24:04,775
just down the road
from the property.
486
00:24:04,777 --> 00:24:08,078
There is a photo of him
in his Navy uniform
487
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,581
during his World War II service.
488
00:24:10,583 --> 00:24:12,849
Despite being a married man,
489
00:24:12,851 --> 00:24:15,286
Clarence was
conducting an affair
490
00:24:15,288 --> 00:24:18,255
with the wife
of his best friend,
491
00:24:18,257 --> 00:24:21,592
Arnold Eldgewick,
and her name was Mary.
492
00:24:21,594 --> 00:24:23,127
What happened with
the homicide?
493
00:24:23,129 --> 00:24:29,266
On the night of
May 27, 1947,
494
00:24:29,268 --> 00:24:32,403
Clarence drove Mary
to her sister's house,
495
00:24:32,405 --> 00:24:35,538
where she had been staying.
- Okay.
496
00:24:35,540 --> 00:24:39,977
What they didn't know was that
Arnold was there waiting on them
497
00:24:39,979 --> 00:24:43,981
in the dark, shotgun in hand.
498
00:24:43,983 --> 00:24:47,318
They pulled up.
Mary saw him standing there.
499
00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:48,719
She got out of the car.
500
00:24:48,721 --> 00:24:52,289
He fired a shotgun blast
to her but missed.
501
00:24:52,291 --> 00:24:54,525
She fled and went down the road.
502
00:24:54,527 --> 00:24:56,093
Clarence gets out of the car.
503
00:24:56,095 --> 00:24:57,595
But before he gets
out of the car,
504
00:24:57,597 --> 00:25:00,964
he picks up a heavy hammer
and he starts toward Arnold.
505
00:25:00,966 --> 00:25:02,733
The guy's got a shotgun,
and he grabs a hammer?
506
00:25:02,735 --> 00:25:04,802
- It seems odd.
- Yeah.
507
00:25:04,804 --> 00:25:06,904
Arnold fired again.
508
00:25:06,906 --> 00:25:09,706
This time, his shot
hit its mark.
509
00:25:09,708 --> 00:25:14,110
It pierced Clarence's chest
right into his heart.
510
00:25:14,112 --> 00:25:18,248
He died instantly.
511
00:25:18,250 --> 00:25:20,050
Okay.
So Arnold kills this guy.
512
00:25:20,052 --> 00:25:21,318
Do the cops arrest him?
513
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:23,787
Well, they didn't have
to bother looking for him.
514
00:25:23,789 --> 00:25:27,491
He drove himself straight
to the county jail,
515
00:25:27,493 --> 00:25:30,394
turned himself in,
confessed what he had done.
516
00:25:30,396 --> 00:25:32,529
And when they asked
him why, he said,
517
00:25:32,531 --> 00:25:34,798
"I thought I had
done a good deed."
518
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:38,402
Here is a mug shot taken
at the West Virginia prison.
519
00:25:38,404 --> 00:25:41,005
He's got psycho
written in his eyes.
520
00:25:41,007 --> 00:25:42,006
I can tell you that.
521
00:25:42,008 --> 00:25:43,340
- Absolutely.
- All right.
522
00:25:43,342 --> 00:25:45,275
So how much time
did he wind up getting?
523
00:25:45,277 --> 00:25:47,978
He served three years
in the West Virginia State Pen.
524
00:25:47,980 --> 00:25:50,915
He got away with pretty
much premeditated murder.
525
00:25:50,917 --> 00:25:52,215
So it would seem.
526
00:25:55,020 --> 00:26:00,958
Something happened where
this woman is freaking out.
527
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,693
I'm hearing, like, men's voices
talking, yelling.
528
00:26:08,935 --> 00:26:11,902
Some jealousy issues,
I heard a gunshot.
529
00:26:15,041 --> 00:26:18,242
I'm getting just
a lot of sadness.
530
00:26:27,386 --> 00:26:30,387
I saw a lot of dead
during my walk,
531
00:26:30,389 --> 00:26:32,790
but two groups
concerned me the most.
532
00:26:32,792 --> 00:26:35,025
First, the gang of bandits,
533
00:26:35,027 --> 00:26:38,195
these figures
are completely black.
534
00:26:38,197 --> 00:26:41,832
Their eyes were white.
535
00:26:41,834 --> 00:26:47,670
They look like kind of
these mutant monsters.
536
00:26:47,672 --> 00:26:52,743
Next, I describe the prostitutes
terrorizing a young boy.
537
00:26:52,745 --> 00:26:54,210
He is pissed off.
538
00:26:54,212 --> 00:26:59,283
He's like this because
they keep him up all night.
539
00:26:59,285 --> 00:27:02,086
One of them is kind of
missing half of her face.
540
00:27:02,088 --> 00:27:04,187
It's been rotted off already.
541
00:27:04,189 --> 00:27:05,956
The other one,
her nose fell off.
542
00:27:12,665 --> 00:27:15,499
Amy, is this what you saw?
543
00:27:15,501 --> 00:27:18,902
Yes. That's what I saw.
544
00:27:37,956 --> 00:27:40,891
Now that Amy and I have
completed our investigations,
545
00:27:40,893 --> 00:27:42,893
we're ready to reveal
our findings to each other
546
00:27:42,895 --> 00:27:45,429
and our clients
for the first time.
547
00:27:45,431 --> 00:27:48,298
Amy, I'd like you to meet
Sara and her husband, Mark.
548
00:27:48,300 --> 00:27:50,968
Now, they live here
with their two young sons.
549
00:27:50,970 --> 00:27:53,303
I've got a photo.
550
00:27:53,305 --> 00:27:54,571
This is Lane, who is 13.
551
00:27:54,573 --> 00:27:57,340
This is Tanner, who's 10.
552
00:27:57,342 --> 00:27:59,776
Now, Mark here travels
a lot for work,
553
00:27:59,778 --> 00:28:01,378
so Sara and the boys
are left here a lot
554
00:28:01,380 --> 00:28:03,580
to face the violent
activity alone.
555
00:28:03,582 --> 00:28:05,149
She told me,
with everything going on,
556
00:28:05,151 --> 00:28:07,317
this place is just
a house, not a home.
557
00:28:07,319 --> 00:28:10,954
But they're both hoping
we can change that.
558
00:28:10,956 --> 00:28:12,523
So now that Amy
has met you guys,
559
00:28:12,525 --> 00:28:17,327
I'm gonna ask her
to describe her walk for us.
560
00:28:17,329 --> 00:28:18,862
When I got here,
561
00:28:18,864 --> 00:28:23,800
I saw something
that is really not good
562
00:28:23,802 --> 00:28:27,671
for living people --
a vortex.
563
00:28:27,673 --> 00:28:30,074
It's something that's
always been here,
564
00:28:30,076 --> 00:28:34,077
and this one is so large
and is very powerful.
565
00:28:34,079 --> 00:28:35,879
People who live in areas
like this
566
00:28:35,881 --> 00:28:38,215
will have a lot
of paranormal phenomena
567
00:28:38,217 --> 00:28:43,554
because entities and dead people
come and go through vortexes.
568
00:28:43,556 --> 00:28:48,492
The dead here, due to this
kind of energy, are stronger.
569
00:28:48,494 --> 00:28:50,894
They're gonna be
much more physical.
570
00:28:50,896 --> 00:28:55,065
They're gonna be able to do
a lot more to the living.
571
00:28:55,067 --> 00:28:59,035
And for the living, it makes
you guys a lot weaker.
572
00:28:59,037 --> 00:29:01,371
If you have a lot of
dead people around you,
573
00:29:01,373 --> 00:29:03,907
you're gonna have
a lot of dead energy
574
00:29:03,909 --> 00:29:06,510
which isn't
particularly healthy.
575
00:29:06,512 --> 00:29:11,181
And also, because the movement
of energy is so intense,
576
00:29:11,183 --> 00:29:14,051
the living here would be,
like, constantly falling,
577
00:29:14,053 --> 00:29:17,454
having vertigo-type
experiences.
578
00:29:17,456 --> 00:29:20,057
Now, we never talked about
equilibrium problems.
579
00:29:20,059 --> 00:29:24,261
You or anybody in the family
have any problems with that? Yes.
580
00:29:24,263 --> 00:29:26,463
Months ago, it was just, like,
581
00:29:26,465 --> 00:29:28,732
someone had spun me
around 50 times.
582
00:29:28,734 --> 00:29:32,536
I could not get out
of the bathroom.
583
00:29:32,538 --> 00:29:35,873
This vortex can also cause you
to have nightmares
584
00:29:35,875 --> 00:29:38,742
and bad anxiety.
585
00:29:38,744 --> 00:29:43,013
I feel high, high anxiety
for no reason.
586
00:29:43,015 --> 00:29:46,416
Mark, do you or the boys
feel that way at all?
587
00:29:46,418 --> 00:29:49,453
- The boys definitely do --
- Okay.
588
00:29:49,455 --> 00:29:51,421
...especially Lane.
589
00:29:51,423 --> 00:29:54,124
Plus,
you mentioned nightmares. Yeah.
590
00:29:54,126 --> 00:29:55,759
You feel like when you wake up,
591
00:29:55,761 --> 00:29:58,161
you have to look
around to be like,
592
00:29:58,163 --> 00:30:00,029
"Where the heck have I been?"
593
00:30:00,031 --> 00:30:01,898
And I spoke to both boys,
594
00:30:01,900 --> 00:30:04,901
and they're having
nightmare issues as well.-
595
00:30:04,903 --> 00:30:07,571
Long-term, what is this
gonna do to us?
596
00:30:07,573 --> 00:30:11,107
Being exposed to just
the vortex alone
597
00:30:11,109 --> 00:30:14,110
on a consistent
basis can develop
598
00:30:14,112 --> 00:30:17,581
into long-term
and terminal illnesses,
599
00:30:17,583 --> 00:30:19,182
things like brain cancer,
600
00:30:19,184 --> 00:30:23,820
dementia, Alzheimer's,
heart issues.
601
00:30:23,822 --> 00:30:25,855
Do you guys suffer
from anything like that?
602
00:30:25,857 --> 00:30:27,891
High blood pressure, yeah.
603
00:30:27,893 --> 00:30:31,561
But it seems like it probably
got worse when I came here.
604
00:30:31,563 --> 00:30:32,862
Exactly. That's the vortex?
605
00:30:32,864 --> 00:30:34,331
It could be, yeah.
606
00:30:38,037 --> 00:30:40,003
What else did you get?
607
00:30:40,005 --> 00:30:43,540
There are three groups
of dead people here.
608
00:30:43,542 --> 00:30:47,844
They are each from
a separate time period.
609
00:30:47,846 --> 00:30:50,414
One of the groups
is Native American.
610
00:30:50,416 --> 00:30:53,783
And basically, they've taken
over this basement area.
611
00:30:53,785 --> 00:30:56,386
There is a lot of
physical phenomena.
612
00:30:56,388 --> 00:31:01,325
Native Americans are constantly,
like, moving things.
613
00:31:01,327 --> 00:31:05,361
They don't want anything
down here or person,
614
00:31:05,363 --> 00:31:07,431
and it really
bothers them, you know?
615
00:31:07,433 --> 00:31:09,233
They want it all out.
616
00:31:09,235 --> 00:31:11,768
So I thought the living would
hear maybe the women talking,
617
00:31:11,770 --> 00:31:15,906
the children laughing
and playing, objects moving.
618
00:31:15,908 --> 00:31:17,374
When I spoke with Sara
down here in the basement,
619
00:31:17,376 --> 00:31:21,011
she told me about hearing voices
down here, conversations, right?
620
00:31:21,013 --> 00:31:22,445
Just whispers.
Imagine just people, you know...
621
00:31:24,650 --> 00:31:27,184
Yeah, I'll hear that.
622
00:31:27,186 --> 00:31:28,585
Now, you've also heard
someone screwing
623
00:31:28,587 --> 00:31:29,987
with the basement doorknob.
624
00:31:29,989 --> 00:31:31,588
Tell Amy what
happened that time.
625
00:31:31,590 --> 00:31:35,025
Imagine somebody walking up
the stairs and can't get up,
626
00:31:35,027 --> 00:31:38,594
got angry and just did
one of those.
627
00:31:38,596 --> 00:31:40,196
Now, Mark, did Lane tell you
about the story
628
00:31:40,198 --> 00:31:42,799
with the rocking
chair down here?
629
00:31:42,801 --> 00:31:44,934
Yeah. Just out of
the corner of his eye,
630
00:31:44,936 --> 00:31:48,338
he would see this
rocking chair move.
631
00:31:48,340 --> 00:31:50,073
Now, does that make sense
with all
632
00:31:50,075 --> 00:31:51,608
the Native Americans down here?
633
00:31:51,610 --> 00:31:54,944
Yes.
634
00:31:54,946 --> 00:31:58,348
There is one dead male
I saw very clearly.
635
00:31:58,350 --> 00:32:01,351
He is the leader of
the second group
636
00:32:01,353 --> 00:32:03,353
of dead people that are here,
637
00:32:03,355 --> 00:32:06,757
and I'll get to those
guys in a minute.
638
00:32:06,759 --> 00:32:10,894
This guy was extremely tall,
very thin, very pale.
639
00:32:10,896 --> 00:32:14,630
He looked to be in his 40s.
640
00:32:14,632 --> 00:32:16,767
He was wearing
an interesting hat.
641
00:32:16,769 --> 00:32:20,170
He also had a royal blue
642
00:32:20,172 --> 00:32:23,140
Military-style jacket.
643
00:32:23,142 --> 00:32:27,644
I think he was in the military,
and he went rogue.
644
00:32:27,646 --> 00:32:30,447
And like I said,
he had a team of men.
645
00:32:30,449 --> 00:32:33,717
I mean, I kept calling them kind
of, like, pirates or bandits
646
00:32:33,719 --> 00:32:36,586
because of how
they dressed and acted.
647
00:32:36,588 --> 00:32:38,455
Eventually, though,
all of these men
648
00:32:38,457 --> 00:32:41,791
became extremely ill
from some kind of illness,
649
00:32:41,793 --> 00:32:45,695
and they all died
horrible deaths.
650
00:32:45,697 --> 00:32:47,264
Some of the stuff you're talking
about reminds me
651
00:32:47,266 --> 00:32:49,332
of one of the original
owners of your property,
652
00:32:49,334 --> 00:32:52,269
and this guy goes back to 1858.
653
00:32:52,271 --> 00:32:57,007
He bought 670 acres, including
the property the house sits on.
654
00:32:57,009 --> 00:32:58,541
Now his name was Daniel Pauley.
655
00:32:58,543 --> 00:33:00,677
Now, you said the guy you saw
was in the Military
656
00:33:00,679 --> 00:33:04,013
and might have had
a Military jacket on?-
657
00:33:04,015 --> 00:33:06,550
Pauley served in the Union Army
during the Civil War
658
00:33:06,552 --> 00:33:10,220
which would have been
a blue uniform.
659
00:33:10,222 --> 00:33:12,321
He was 50 years old
when he joined.
660
00:33:12,323 --> 00:33:14,958
You said you saw a bunch of men
dying of some horrible illness.
661
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,961
Now, when Pauley was serving,
662
00:33:17,963 --> 00:33:21,464
200 of the guys he served
with died of dysentery.
663
00:33:21,466 --> 00:33:23,633
But he managed
to survive somehow.
664
00:33:23,635 --> 00:33:25,836
Now, is it possible Pauley
could be the guy you saw?
665
00:33:25,838 --> 00:33:27,503
I kind of think it's unlikely.
666
00:33:27,505 --> 00:33:31,141
I didn't really feel
like they lived here.
667
00:33:31,143 --> 00:33:33,343
Okay.
At least we know who it's not.
668
00:33:33,345 --> 00:33:35,812
Now, does this guy in blue
and his men do anything
669
00:33:35,814 --> 00:33:38,714
to the living here?
- Yes.
670
00:33:38,716 --> 00:33:40,316
I think you might hear them
671
00:33:40,318 --> 00:33:44,054
and I tried to speak to them.
672
00:33:44,056 --> 00:33:47,724
But because they can't
physically manifest words,
673
00:33:47,726 --> 00:33:50,193
this weird noise came out.
674
00:33:50,195 --> 00:33:52,395
It's like this crackling
weird noise.
675
00:33:52,397 --> 00:33:53,529
Well, it's funny
you mention that
676
00:33:53,531 --> 00:33:54,598
because I just looked at Mark.
677
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,800
He told me about hearing
these, like, a beep?
678
00:33:57,802 --> 00:34:01,004
Yeah, just a beep
out of nowhere.
679
00:34:01,006 --> 00:34:02,505
It sounds like it's right
next to you,
680
00:34:02,507 --> 00:34:05,142
but there is nothing there.
681
00:34:05,144 --> 00:34:09,012
I got that there is one male
that they don't particularly
682
00:34:09,014 --> 00:34:13,683
like here, that they do focus
on and pick on often.
683
00:34:13,685 --> 00:34:16,753
One of them attacked
this male here.
684
00:34:16,755 --> 00:34:21,024
I saw him jumping on his back,
pushing him up the stairs
685
00:34:21,026 --> 00:34:24,261
there into
the family room area,
686
00:34:24,263 --> 00:34:29,733
maybe feeling, like, an,
you know, a hit here maybe,
687
00:34:29,735 --> 00:34:33,236
maybe choking sensation,
maybe feeling like, you know,
688
00:34:33,238 --> 00:34:36,606
the wind's getting
knocked out of you.
689
00:34:36,608 --> 00:34:38,708
It sounds to me like
you're talking about Mark.
690
00:34:38,710 --> 00:34:40,076
Tell her about the experience
you had on the couch
691
00:34:40,078 --> 00:34:41,511
'cause that was pretty bad.
692
00:34:41,513 --> 00:34:45,281
One night, okay, my mouth was
wide open and I was snoring.
693
00:34:45,283 --> 00:34:47,317
And it just felt like
somebody had come up
694
00:34:47,319 --> 00:34:50,286
and took their hand
and slammed my mouth shut.
695
00:34:51,457 --> 00:34:53,957
And the bottom side of my chin
696
00:34:53,959 --> 00:34:57,126
tingled for at least
an hour or two.
697
00:34:57,128 --> 00:34:59,962
You mentioned you'd saw
a male getting attacked.
698
00:34:59,964 --> 00:35:01,198
- Yeah.
- But I got news for you.
699
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:06,536
I got photos of Sara
waking up with bruises.
700
00:35:06,538 --> 00:35:09,206
Here, look at these.
701
00:35:09,208 --> 00:35:11,340
Wow.
702
00:35:11,342 --> 00:35:16,646
It feels like somebody has taken
a baseball bat to my ribcage.
703
00:35:16,648 --> 00:35:18,481
Is there any other way
Mark and Sara
704
00:35:18,483 --> 00:35:20,083
would experience these guys?
705
00:35:20,085 --> 00:35:23,520
It's possible that the living
could see them.
706
00:35:23,522 --> 00:35:28,258
They were in shadow and I had
a sketch done of what I saw.
707
00:35:33,532 --> 00:35:38,835
Wow.
708
00:35:38,837 --> 00:35:43,573
Wow.
709
00:35:43,575 --> 00:35:46,976
I have seen a dark apparition,
710
00:35:46,978 --> 00:35:50,247
a shadow figure,
that I thought was Mark,
711
00:35:50,249 --> 00:35:53,183
and he backed into the wall.
712
00:35:53,185 --> 00:35:55,652
So it sounds like these bandits
are what they're seeing?
713
00:35:55,654 --> 00:35:58,221
Correct.
These guys are always around.
714
00:35:58,223 --> 00:36:02,725
They don't ever leave.
715
00:36:02,727 --> 00:36:04,661
You said there were three
groups of dead people
716
00:36:04,663 --> 00:36:05,895
you were concerned about.
- Yeah.
717
00:36:05,897 --> 00:36:07,731
What was the third one?
718
00:36:07,733 --> 00:36:10,066
So there is this other group
of dead people
719
00:36:10,068 --> 00:36:13,469
that are here
that are prostitutes.
720
00:36:13,471 --> 00:36:15,705
There's two or three of them.
721
00:36:15,707 --> 00:36:20,276
I think that these women
suffered from syphilis.
722
00:36:21,647 --> 00:36:24,113
For instance,
one doesn't have a nose.
723
00:36:24,115 --> 00:36:26,516
There is another one
who has the sores.
724
00:36:26,518 --> 00:36:29,352
It can be a rotting disease.
725
00:36:29,354 --> 00:36:31,354
As far as what the living
would experience,
726
00:36:31,356 --> 00:36:33,155
they will go into your minds
727
00:36:33,157 --> 00:36:37,661
and pull out
really bad memories,
728
00:36:37,663 --> 00:36:41,097
causing wicked headaches
and nightmares.
729
00:36:41,099 --> 00:36:43,199
You and Tanner
both have headaches.
730
00:36:43,201 --> 00:36:47,070
I mean, we're talking
full-blown migraine to where,
731
00:36:47,072 --> 00:36:49,639
you know, you're nauseous.
732
00:36:49,641 --> 00:36:54,477
The other thing that's going
on is, they love children.
733
00:36:54,479 --> 00:36:57,747
They wanted the child
who's in the yellow room.
734
00:36:57,749 --> 00:36:59,449
That's Tanner.
735
00:36:59,451 --> 00:37:04,220
They're attracted to him
because he is a physical medium.
736
00:37:06,891 --> 00:37:11,127
A lot of this activity started
after Tanner hit about 2.
737
00:37:11,129 --> 00:37:12,996
Is there a connection
between him turning 2
738
00:37:12,998 --> 00:37:15,799
and what's going on here?
- Yes.
739
00:37:15,801 --> 00:37:20,002
He's becoming a little bit
more cognizant, you know, aware.
740
00:37:20,004 --> 00:37:22,538
So he can interact
with them in a way
741
00:37:22,540 --> 00:37:25,675
that a lot of other
people can't.
742
00:37:25,677 --> 00:37:27,443
You didn't have a surprised
look on your face
743
00:37:27,445 --> 00:37:28,678
when she said he was
a physical medium.
744
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:30,747
You were like, "Yeah."
745
00:37:30,749 --> 00:37:33,149
- We kind of suspected it.
- You did?
746
00:37:33,151 --> 00:37:36,352
Yeah. I'm really worried
about him because ---
747
00:37:36,354 --> 00:37:37,621
...what's his life
going to be like
748
00:37:37,623 --> 00:37:39,022
and what do we tell him now?
749
00:37:39,024 --> 00:37:40,957
He strikes me as a kid,
when you talk to him,
750
00:37:40,959 --> 00:37:43,994
as somebody that has
been through a lot.
751
00:37:43,996 --> 00:37:46,162
A lot, exactly.
752
00:37:46,164 --> 00:37:49,499
I did have a sketch done of him
753
00:37:49,501 --> 00:37:53,336
being agitated by these women.
754
00:37:58,510 --> 00:38:01,978
That's gonna be tough
for you to see.
755
00:38:01,980 --> 00:38:03,579
Wow.
756
00:38:07,251 --> 00:38:10,953
I mean, I've seen him sit
in his bed like that.
757
00:38:10,955 --> 00:38:14,356
You can tell that
something bothers him.
758
00:38:14,358 --> 00:38:15,591
All right.
759
00:38:15,593 --> 00:38:17,727
So what do these prostitutes
want with Tanner anyway?
760
00:38:17,729 --> 00:38:19,462
These women are nuts.
761
00:38:19,464 --> 00:38:22,065
What they're trying
to figure out right now
762
00:38:22,067 --> 00:38:26,068
is if they want to take him
763
00:38:26,070 --> 00:38:29,606
or if they want to
attach to him.
764
00:38:29,608 --> 00:38:32,475
And if they were
to attach to him,
765
00:38:32,477 --> 00:38:36,345
they would then cause
issues throughout his life.
766
00:38:36,347 --> 00:38:40,950
If they decided to take him,
that would result in death.
767
00:38:58,069 --> 00:39:01,604
So Sara and Mark, you guys got
a lot of information tonight,
768
00:39:01,606 --> 00:39:05,041
probably a lot more
than you bargained for.
769
00:39:05,043 --> 00:39:06,576
But we still haven't
answered the big question.
770
00:39:06,578 --> 00:39:09,546
Is there anything you can do
to stop the activity here
771
00:39:09,548 --> 00:39:10,914
so that you guys can protect
772
00:39:10,916 --> 00:39:15,585
Tanner and live in peace
as a family again?
773
00:39:15,587 --> 00:39:20,390
For that answer, I'm gonna
turn it over to Amy.
774
00:39:20,392 --> 00:39:22,458
Okay. So here we go.
775
00:39:22,460 --> 00:39:25,628
Basically, what can be done
about the vortex
776
00:39:25,630 --> 00:39:29,131
is a reversal
of the vortex energy.
777
00:39:29,133 --> 00:39:31,701
Take it from negative
to positive.
778
00:39:31,703 --> 00:39:35,805
That way, the entities aren't
anymore coming out at you.
779
00:39:35,807 --> 00:39:38,775
They're going in,
and then they're moving on.
780
00:39:38,777 --> 00:39:41,744
And negative energy
would dissipate over time.
781
00:39:41,746 --> 00:39:43,913
So how can they make
that happen?
782
00:39:43,915 --> 00:39:45,948
The one that I know,
she is a psychic knower
783
00:39:45,950 --> 00:39:47,517
and a Reiki master.
784
00:39:47,519 --> 00:39:48,851
Okay.
785
00:39:48,853 --> 00:39:52,288
And she also specializes
in working with vortex.
786
00:39:52,290 --> 00:39:55,090
It's an extremely
difficult task.
787
00:39:55,092 --> 00:39:57,927
I would give the odds 50/50.
788
00:39:57,929 --> 00:40:02,464
You'll know within a week, after
the practitioner were to leave,
789
00:40:02,466 --> 00:40:04,601
if it worked or not.
790
00:40:04,603 --> 00:40:08,170
Obviously, if it doesn't take,
I would recommend that you move.
791
00:40:11,076 --> 00:40:16,679
If it did work, then you would
need to find a physical medium
792
00:40:16,681 --> 00:40:20,883
and a shaman to move on the rest
of the dead that are here,
793
00:40:20,885 --> 00:40:23,953
the ones who think
that they're trapped.
794
00:40:23,955 --> 00:40:26,089
What about the whores?
795
00:40:26,091 --> 00:40:29,325
They're gonna be
harder to grasp,
796
00:40:29,327 --> 00:40:32,361
but the medium
will be able to do it.
797
00:40:32,363 --> 00:40:37,166
Yeah. They're not gonna have
another chance to kill my kid.
798
00:40:37,168 --> 00:40:42,405
They are not harming him
ever, ever, ever again.
799
00:40:42,407 --> 00:40:45,841
Even if all of this works,
you have to start dealing
800
00:40:45,843 --> 00:40:48,444
and learning about
the abilities that your son,
801
00:40:48,446 --> 00:40:51,247
Tanner, has, especially
focusing right now
802
00:40:51,249 --> 00:40:55,251
on protection measures
and meditation techniques.
803
00:40:55,253 --> 00:40:57,253
If you were in their shoes,
what would you do?
804
00:40:57,255 --> 00:41:00,356
- I would be out of here.
- Shoot.
805
00:41:00,358 --> 00:41:03,392
If they move and Tanner learns
how to deal with his abilities,
806
00:41:03,394 --> 00:41:07,463
should they be okay?
- Yeah.
807
00:41:07,465 --> 00:41:09,399
You know, normally,
I stick it to the clients.
808
00:41:09,401 --> 00:41:11,935
I'm like, "You're gonna do
what Amy advises you."
809
00:41:11,937 --> 00:41:14,203
This is one of those cases
where it's, like, you guys
810
00:41:14,205 --> 00:41:16,005
really got to figure this out
811
00:41:16,007 --> 00:41:17,673
and, you know,
this is your family.
812
00:41:17,675 --> 00:41:19,609
Not a tough decision
when it comes
813
00:41:19,611 --> 00:41:22,345
to the well-being of the family.
814
00:41:22,347 --> 00:41:25,615
- This is just a physical place.
- Yeah.
815
00:41:25,617 --> 00:41:26,749
I don't see how we can stay.
816
00:41:26,751 --> 00:41:30,553
We're definitely
gonna move.
817
00:41:30,555 --> 00:41:32,689
There is no guarantee
that a psychic knower
818
00:41:32,691 --> 00:41:35,625
and a Reiki master
can reverse the vortex on Mark
819
00:41:35,627 --> 00:41:37,160
and Sara's property,
820
00:41:37,162 --> 00:41:41,263
so I really hope they take
my advice and move.
821
00:41:41,265 --> 00:41:44,901
If they do that and teach Tanner
how to deal with his abilities,
822
00:41:44,903 --> 00:41:47,903
they should be able to
lead a peaceful life.
823
00:41:47,953 --> 00:41:52,503
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