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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:10,177 --> 00:00:13,612 There is a lot of physical phenomena. 2 00:00:13,614 --> 00:00:16,081 There is a vortex here. 3 00:00:16,083 --> 00:00:17,316 It's just out of control. 4 00:00:17,318 --> 00:00:19,418 I'm getting attacked. 5 00:00:19,420 --> 00:00:24,522 She's, like, praying and crying and praying and crying. 6 00:00:24,524 --> 00:00:28,093 I saw a dark figure standing right there. 7 00:00:28,095 --> 00:00:30,528 They can kill the living person here. 8 00:00:30,530 --> 00:00:32,664 He died instantly. 9 00:00:32,666 --> 00:00:37,636 It's not okay to be in this location at all. 10 00:00:37,638 --> 00:00:39,771 This is not a good situation. 11 00:00:39,773 --> 00:00:41,873 My name is Amy Allan. 12 00:00:41,875 --> 00:00:43,208 There is death here. 13 00:00:43,210 --> 00:00:45,110 Don't want to go down there. 14 00:00:45,112 --> 00:00:46,478 I see dead people. 15 00:00:46,480 --> 00:00:48,513 They hide in the walls, and they watch. 16 00:00:48,515 --> 00:00:51,249 I speak to dead people... 17 00:00:51,251 --> 00:00:53,886 She is definitely a serial killer. 18 00:00:53,888 --> 00:00:55,520 ...and they speak to me. 19 00:00:55,522 --> 00:00:58,090 She is going to torture them. 20 00:00:58,092 --> 00:01:01,593 But there is only one way to know if my findings are real. 21 00:01:01,595 --> 00:01:03,662 They were all murdered. 22 00:01:03,664 --> 00:01:05,364 I rely on my partner. 23 00:01:05,366 --> 00:01:06,932 I'm Steve Di Schiavi. 24 00:01:06,934 --> 00:01:08,733 I'm a retired New York City homicide detective. 25 00:01:08,735 --> 00:01:11,203 So is this the only time you've been physically attacked? 26 00:01:11,205 --> 00:01:15,240 And I know every person, every house has secrets. 27 00:01:15,242 --> 00:01:18,944 There is no question in my mind that he was talking about Satan. 28 00:01:18,946 --> 00:01:20,846 It's my job to reveal them. 29 00:01:20,848 --> 00:01:22,381 Who do you think possessed you? 30 00:01:22,383 --> 00:01:24,216 But Steve and I never speak... 31 00:01:24,218 --> 00:01:26,318 We never communicate during an investigation. 32 00:01:26,320 --> 00:01:27,586 ...until the very end. 33 00:01:27,588 --> 00:01:29,154 Well, you're not gonna wanna see this. 34 00:01:29,156 --> 00:01:31,623 When we uncover if it's safe for you to stay... 35 00:01:31,625 --> 00:01:33,058 Hell no. 36 00:01:33,060 --> 00:01:34,392 Or time to get out. 37 00:01:34,394 --> 00:01:36,762 Everyone is in jeopardy. 38 00:01:49,910 --> 00:01:52,311 I'm in the small town of Elkview, West Virginia. 39 00:01:52,313 --> 00:01:54,813 It's about 15 miles north of Charleston. 40 00:01:54,815 --> 00:01:56,882 I got a call from a mother of two named Sara. 41 00:01:56,884 --> 00:01:59,885 Now, she says something in her house is attacking her, 42 00:01:59,887 --> 00:02:01,320 scaring her kids, 43 00:02:01,322 --> 00:02:03,689 and she thinks someone is gonna get hurt. 44 00:02:03,691 --> 00:02:06,091 She sounded really bad, and I'm hoping Amy 45 00:02:06,093 --> 00:02:07,226 and I can help her out. 46 00:02:11,298 --> 00:02:13,164 Before Amy arrives, 47 00:02:13,166 --> 00:02:17,435 I clear the area of any leading information. 48 00:02:17,437 --> 00:02:20,305 This house is filled with family photos, 49 00:02:20,307 --> 00:02:22,774 so it's important that I cover or remove them all. 50 00:02:25,646 --> 00:02:28,780 When I'm done, the location will be ready for tonight's walk. 51 00:02:41,495 --> 00:02:44,663 Boy. Boy. Boy. Boy. Boy. 52 00:02:44,665 --> 00:02:46,431 There is at least three time periods 53 00:02:46,433 --> 00:02:48,133 of different dead people here, 54 00:02:48,135 --> 00:02:49,601 and they're stuck with each other, 55 00:02:49,603 --> 00:02:51,003 so they're always fighting. 56 00:02:51,005 --> 00:02:55,641 So it's kind of a mess. 57 00:02:55,643 --> 00:03:01,279 This location here is kind of caught in the crosshairs 58 00:03:01,281 --> 00:03:05,384 of this crazy... 59 00:03:05,386 --> 00:03:07,719 It's really bad. 60 00:03:16,830 --> 00:03:19,031 You know, Sara, when we spoke on the phone, 61 00:03:19,033 --> 00:03:20,198 you sounded terrified. 62 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:22,867 What the hell's going on in this house? 63 00:03:22,869 --> 00:03:25,570 I'm at my breaking point. 64 00:03:25,572 --> 00:03:29,574 The activity now has got violent, 65 00:03:29,576 --> 00:03:31,309 and it's just out of control. 66 00:03:31,311 --> 00:03:32,577 I'm getting attacked. 67 00:03:32,579 --> 00:03:34,446 My boys are being scared. 68 00:03:34,448 --> 00:03:36,314 We need help. 69 00:03:36,316 --> 00:03:38,516 If something can't be done, 70 00:03:38,518 --> 00:03:41,920 it's gonna tear my family apart. 71 00:03:41,922 --> 00:03:45,657 All right. So who exactly lives in the house? 72 00:03:45,659 --> 00:03:49,127 Myself. We have my husband, Mark, our youngest boy, 73 00:03:49,129 --> 00:03:54,065 Tanner, he's 10, and we have Lane that is 13. 74 00:03:54,067 --> 00:03:56,034 All right, so how long have you guys been living here? 75 00:03:56,036 --> 00:03:58,670 We bought the house in 2002. 76 00:03:58,672 --> 00:04:01,440 We had Tanner in 2006. 77 00:04:01,442 --> 00:04:03,809 By the time that he was 2, 78 00:04:03,811 --> 00:04:06,144 that's when we really started noticing things 79 00:04:06,146 --> 00:04:08,013 going on that we could not explain. 80 00:04:08,015 --> 00:04:11,282 - Do you think he caused it? - Yes. 81 00:04:11,284 --> 00:04:14,819 Nothing happened here until he was born. 82 00:04:14,821 --> 00:04:17,288 What type of experiences are you guys having? 83 00:04:17,290 --> 00:04:19,457 We've heard voices. 84 00:04:19,459 --> 00:04:23,094 We have seen things move on their own. 85 00:04:23,096 --> 00:04:25,631 We've seen shadow figures. 86 00:04:25,633 --> 00:04:27,699 We'll have nightmares, 87 00:04:27,701 --> 00:04:31,036 and it's finally getting physical. 88 00:04:31,038 --> 00:04:34,640 We are...scared. 89 00:04:34,642 --> 00:04:37,108 Now, is everybody in the house being affected? 90 00:04:37,110 --> 00:04:38,410 To some degree. 91 00:04:38,412 --> 00:04:42,247 But it seems like I'm the one that's seeing 92 00:04:42,249 --> 00:04:45,617 and hearing the majority of it. 93 00:04:45,619 --> 00:04:47,385 So why don't you just move? 94 00:04:47,387 --> 00:04:49,254 We just really love this place, 95 00:04:49,256 --> 00:04:52,090 and I want to fight for what's ours. 96 00:04:58,065 --> 00:05:00,732 Something going on here. 97 00:05:00,734 --> 00:05:05,270 There is a vortex here, but it's huge. 98 00:05:05,272 --> 00:05:09,641 It's massive. 99 00:05:09,643 --> 00:05:13,679 Dead people can come and go through it, also beings, 100 00:05:13,681 --> 00:05:16,815 entities, like, things that have never been human. 101 00:05:16,817 --> 00:05:22,621 It's very concentrated energy, very focused. 102 00:05:22,623 --> 00:05:27,559 This is too much energy for living people to be exposed to. 103 00:05:27,561 --> 00:05:31,496 Being near this vortex can cause a lot 104 00:05:31,498 --> 00:05:35,300 of physical issues with the living. 105 00:05:35,302 --> 00:05:37,435 You're not gonna be able to sleep here. 106 00:05:37,437 --> 00:05:40,038 You're gonna have... insane dreams here. 107 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:41,706 You're gonna lose time here. 108 00:05:41,708 --> 00:05:44,408 You're gonna see crazy... 109 00:05:44,410 --> 00:05:48,313 It's not okay to be in this location at all. 110 00:05:56,523 --> 00:05:58,623 What's going on down here? 111 00:05:58,625 --> 00:06:03,929 I was down here one day, and I go to walk up the stairs. 112 00:06:03,931 --> 00:06:09,200 I see the bottom half of an apparition as plain as day. 113 00:06:09,202 --> 00:06:10,869 Where were you when you saw this? 114 00:06:10,871 --> 00:06:12,403 At the back door. 115 00:06:12,405 --> 00:06:14,372 Any chance it could've been one of the kids? 116 00:06:14,374 --> 00:06:16,074 They were upstairs. 117 00:06:16,076 --> 00:06:19,678 After I saw the apparition, I got this intense pain. 118 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:23,882 It felt like lightning had went from my head to my toes. 119 00:06:23,884 --> 00:06:25,216 All right. So what else? 120 00:06:25,218 --> 00:06:29,720 I have heard, say, two people having a conversation, 121 00:06:29,722 --> 00:06:31,823 whispering, almost like they didn't want me 122 00:06:31,825 --> 00:06:33,391 to hear what they were saying. 123 00:06:33,393 --> 00:06:35,293 Does it sound like it's a man and a woman, 124 00:06:35,295 --> 00:06:36,828 a couple of men, couple of women? 125 00:06:36,830 --> 00:06:39,897 It varies. I've heard all. 126 00:06:39,899 --> 00:06:41,165 Could the TV be on upstairs, 127 00:06:41,167 --> 00:06:42,267 and it's just filtering down into -- 128 00:06:42,269 --> 00:06:44,302 There is no television on at these times. 129 00:06:44,304 --> 00:06:45,637 This was late at night. 130 00:06:45,639 --> 00:06:48,173 We don't leave TVs on. 131 00:06:48,175 --> 00:06:49,674 Okay. What else is going on? 132 00:06:49,676 --> 00:06:51,910 One night, it was, like, 133 00:06:51,912 --> 00:06:55,881 someone was shaking the door violently. 134 00:06:55,883 --> 00:06:57,315 Could somebody have gotten into the garage? 135 00:06:57,317 --> 00:07:00,552 That was my first thought, and I was ready to call 9-1-1. 136 00:07:00,554 --> 00:07:02,086 Did you investigate it? 137 00:07:02,088 --> 00:07:03,622 I actually was too scared. 138 00:07:09,262 --> 00:07:11,596 Wow. 139 00:07:11,598 --> 00:07:14,732 There's Native Americans. 140 00:07:14,734 --> 00:07:16,802 This is theirs, man. 141 00:07:16,804 --> 00:07:18,536 I honestly thought they were all men, 142 00:07:18,538 --> 00:07:20,672 but I'm seeing all of these Native American women 143 00:07:20,674 --> 00:07:22,641 here with children. 144 00:07:22,643 --> 00:07:26,010 I think that the living would have experiences of feeling, 145 00:07:26,012 --> 00:07:31,015 like, back it up. 146 00:07:31,017 --> 00:07:34,686 I think that the living 147 00:07:34,688 --> 00:07:37,289 would have a hard time 148 00:07:37,291 --> 00:07:39,758 being down here for very long. 149 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:44,229 They would definitely have experiences, 150 00:07:44,231 --> 00:07:46,698 hearing children laughing and playing, 151 00:07:46,700 --> 00:07:48,834 hearing women's voices. 152 00:07:48,836 --> 00:07:50,768 There is a lot of physical phenomena. 153 00:07:54,274 --> 00:07:59,610 The Native Americans are constantly, like, moving things. 154 00:07:59,612 --> 00:08:03,381 They don't want anything down here or person, 155 00:08:03,383 --> 00:08:05,450 and it really bothers them, you know? 156 00:08:05,452 --> 00:08:06,451 They want it all out. 157 00:08:12,859 --> 00:08:15,760 Okay. So what's going on? 158 00:08:15,762 --> 00:08:20,332 The other night, I had a dream that there was a man 159 00:08:20,334 --> 00:08:22,200 that was chasing me 160 00:08:22,202 --> 00:08:24,168 down the stairs with a knife. 161 00:08:24,170 --> 00:08:25,703 Okay. How often are you having those? 162 00:08:25,705 --> 00:08:27,205 Several times a month. 163 00:08:27,207 --> 00:08:28,206 All right. Listen, I have nightmares. 164 00:08:28,208 --> 00:08:30,174 Why is it paranormal for you? 165 00:08:30,176 --> 00:08:32,878 These nightmares have just started this year 166 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:35,747 when the activity really started ramping up. 167 00:08:35,749 --> 00:08:39,284 And I've never had nightmares like this before. 168 00:08:39,286 --> 00:08:42,053 Okay. All right. What else is going on in here? 169 00:08:42,055 --> 00:08:46,157 One night, I woke up and there was just a shadow 170 00:08:46,159 --> 00:08:47,825 leaning over me. 171 00:08:47,827 --> 00:08:49,027 Where was the shadow? 172 00:08:49,029 --> 00:08:50,828 It was along that wall right there. 173 00:08:50,830 --> 00:08:53,498 It couldn't have been somebody outside casting a shadow. No, no. 174 00:08:53,500 --> 00:08:55,767 At nighttime, I always shut our blinds. 175 00:08:55,769 --> 00:08:58,836 Bad dreams. Seeing shadow figures in here. 176 00:08:58,838 --> 00:09:00,171 What else is going on? 177 00:09:00,173 --> 00:09:02,107 There is times that I've woke up, that it feels like 178 00:09:02,109 --> 00:09:03,942 I've been in a car accident. 179 00:09:03,944 --> 00:09:07,812 It feels like someone has taken a baseball bat to my ribcage. 180 00:09:07,814 --> 00:09:10,615 Do you ever see any markings from it? 181 00:09:10,617 --> 00:09:12,850 - We've taken some pictures. - Okay. 182 00:09:12,852 --> 00:09:15,253 This is my calf. 183 00:09:15,255 --> 00:09:17,922 I mean, this is bad. You know that. Yeah. 184 00:09:17,924 --> 00:09:19,457 Anything else physical like that ever happened? 185 00:09:19,459 --> 00:09:21,058 I'll go to bed feeling fine. 186 00:09:21,060 --> 00:09:22,927 I will wake up in the middle of the night 187 00:09:22,929 --> 00:09:26,197 and have a migraine to where it will make me so sick, 188 00:09:26,199 --> 00:09:28,066 to where I'll get nauseous, 189 00:09:28,068 --> 00:09:31,002 my head just feels like somebody has just caved it in. 190 00:09:31,004 --> 00:09:32,737 How the hell are you living like this? 191 00:09:32,739 --> 00:09:35,940 It's really scary sometimes. 192 00:09:35,942 --> 00:09:38,076 And I'm just trying to get through it, 193 00:09:38,078 --> 00:09:41,012 make everything okay for my boys, 194 00:09:41,014 --> 00:09:44,683 my husband and just try to block it out. 195 00:09:49,022 --> 00:09:53,691 I see a woman here with straight dark hair. 196 00:09:53,693 --> 00:09:55,159 Is this a living person? 197 00:09:55,161 --> 00:09:58,096 I think it's a living person. 198 00:09:58,098 --> 00:10:01,833 I feel like she's being beat up, like, 199 00:10:01,835 --> 00:10:05,036 physically assaulted by a dead male. 200 00:10:08,375 --> 00:10:11,943 She's, like, praying and crying and praying and crying. 201 00:10:11,945 --> 00:10:15,880 This person in here is sick already 202 00:10:15,882 --> 00:10:20,018 and is sicker because of living here 203 00:10:20,020 --> 00:10:23,521 because it's such a bad place to be physically. 204 00:10:43,810 --> 00:10:46,577 - So, Lane, how old are you? - I'm 13. 205 00:10:46,579 --> 00:10:47,912 So I was talking to mom. 206 00:10:47,914 --> 00:10:51,049 She says things in the house are pretty scary. Yes. 207 00:10:51,051 --> 00:10:52,550 Are you having trouble sleeping here? 208 00:10:52,552 --> 00:10:53,885 I've had nightmares in here, 209 00:10:53,887 --> 00:10:56,654 and that's caused me to not sleep. 210 00:10:56,656 --> 00:10:59,357 So, Lane, what have you seen that you can't explain? 211 00:10:59,359 --> 00:11:03,394 Downstairs, I saw the rocking chair rocking by itself. 212 00:11:03,396 --> 00:11:05,129 Now, Lane, is it possible one of your dogs 213 00:11:05,131 --> 00:11:07,465 might have ran by the chair and hit it? 214 00:11:07,467 --> 00:11:09,000 No, because it's only happened 215 00:11:09,002 --> 00:11:10,734 whenever I'm down there long. 216 00:11:10,736 --> 00:11:11,802 Okay. What else? 217 00:11:11,804 --> 00:11:14,539 One time, I saw a dark figure standing 218 00:11:14,541 --> 00:11:17,075 right there looking at me through the doorway. 219 00:11:17,077 --> 00:11:20,344 It scared me so bad, my heart just, like, leapt out of me. 220 00:11:20,346 --> 00:11:21,880 So what did you see? What did it look like? 221 00:11:21,882 --> 00:11:23,414 Like a man. 222 00:11:23,416 --> 00:11:25,817 It was, like, darker than the room. 223 00:11:25,819 --> 00:11:28,286 Do you think what's here could be dangerous? 224 00:11:28,288 --> 00:11:30,655 Yeah. 225 00:11:30,657 --> 00:11:31,923 Boy. 226 00:11:31,925 --> 00:11:34,091 I'm seeing a group of men. 227 00:11:34,093 --> 00:11:35,627 They look weird. 228 00:11:35,629 --> 00:11:38,029 They're dressed up like pirates or bandits. 229 00:11:38,031 --> 00:11:42,767 It makes them look really creepy, 230 00:11:42,769 --> 00:11:47,505 but they're all in shadow except their eyes are white, like, 231 00:11:47,507 --> 00:11:50,041 this intense, bright, white light 232 00:11:50,043 --> 00:11:54,445 comes out of their eyes and puts them into shadow. 233 00:11:54,447 --> 00:11:56,447 Living people here are seeing them. 234 00:11:56,449 --> 00:11:59,684 They wake up at night, and they're being stared at. 235 00:11:59,686 --> 00:12:01,119 Very scary. 236 00:12:07,127 --> 00:12:09,093 Mark, talking to your wife, she said that the activity 237 00:12:09,095 --> 00:12:10,528 kind of started 238 00:12:10,530 --> 00:12:12,963 maybe two years after your youngest son was born. 239 00:12:12,965 --> 00:12:14,965 I mean, did that make sense to you? 240 00:12:14,967 --> 00:12:16,134 Yes. 241 00:12:16,136 --> 00:12:18,336 There is something going on with the youngest. 242 00:12:18,338 --> 00:12:20,205 Any experiences you could tell me about? 243 00:12:20,207 --> 00:12:21,606 Absolutely. Yeah. 244 00:12:21,608 --> 00:12:24,876 We were all down in the kitchen. Okay. 245 00:12:24,878 --> 00:12:27,011 And there was this real loud beep. 246 00:12:27,013 --> 00:12:29,513 It was really, I mean, you know, it made your ears ring. 247 00:12:29,515 --> 00:12:31,282 Now, Mark, smoke detectors make that noise 248 00:12:31,284 --> 00:12:33,284 when the battery is starting to go. 249 00:12:33,286 --> 00:12:34,519 Was that the case here? 250 00:12:34,521 --> 00:12:38,556 I searched everything down there, I mean, everything. 251 00:12:38,558 --> 00:12:39,824 There was nothing. 252 00:12:39,826 --> 00:12:41,993 Nothing logical could explain it. 253 00:12:41,995 --> 00:12:43,427 Okay. Anything else happen? 254 00:12:43,429 --> 00:12:47,064 One time, I came in and fell asleep on the love seat 255 00:12:47,066 --> 00:12:48,833 and had my head back. 256 00:12:48,835 --> 00:12:51,202 And it just felt like somebody grabbed my jaw 257 00:12:51,204 --> 00:12:52,704 and slammed it shut. 258 00:12:52,706 --> 00:12:54,772 - You sure it wasn't a dream? - Yeah. 259 00:12:54,774 --> 00:12:59,444 And then afterward, the bottom of my chin tingled 260 00:12:59,446 --> 00:13:01,079 and then my teeth started hurting. 261 00:13:01,081 --> 00:13:03,848 I'm like, "Holy crap." I mean, it hurt my teeth. 262 00:13:03,850 --> 00:13:07,051 Working with Amy, knowing that things are really physical here, 263 00:13:07,053 --> 00:13:10,088 this is not a good thing. - Yeah. 264 00:13:10,090 --> 00:13:11,923 I worry every day, especially when I'm out of town. 265 00:13:11,925 --> 00:13:13,491 It's tough. 266 00:13:13,493 --> 00:13:17,128 I'm really worried about the boys being mentally scarred. 267 00:13:20,634 --> 00:13:22,000 These pirate bandit people 268 00:13:22,002 --> 00:13:25,636 are causing a lot of stress for the living. 269 00:13:25,638 --> 00:13:28,406 One of them tried to talk to me. 270 00:13:28,408 --> 00:13:33,310 It made this weird noise. 271 00:13:33,312 --> 00:13:37,215 I've seen them, like, creeping up on a male here 272 00:13:37,217 --> 00:13:39,116 as he's going up these stairs, 273 00:13:39,118 --> 00:13:41,219 and there's a little dead guy 274 00:13:41,221 --> 00:13:44,355 jumping on this living dude's back. 275 00:13:44,357 --> 00:13:48,293 This living guy just explodes. 276 00:13:48,295 --> 00:13:49,761 He's feeling choked. 277 00:13:49,763 --> 00:13:51,896 He's feeling like the wind's being knocked out of him. 278 00:13:51,898 --> 00:13:53,064 He's feeling pushed. 279 00:13:53,066 --> 00:13:55,199 A lot of really brutal experiences. 280 00:14:01,374 --> 00:14:03,741 - Tanner, how old are you? -10. 281 00:14:03,743 --> 00:14:05,109 So, Tanner, when I was talking to your mom today, 282 00:14:05,111 --> 00:14:06,778 she told me that you were having a tough time 283 00:14:06,780 --> 00:14:08,513 with the activity in the house. 284 00:14:08,515 --> 00:14:11,482 - Does that sound right to you? - Yeah. 285 00:14:11,484 --> 00:14:13,384 Any experiences you could tell me about? 286 00:14:13,386 --> 00:14:17,622 In the TV room, the ceiling fan light, 287 00:14:17,624 --> 00:14:23,161 it was off then it flickered on by itself. 288 00:14:23,163 --> 00:14:25,496 - That kind of scared you. - Yeah. 289 00:14:25,498 --> 00:14:26,764 Anything else? 290 00:14:26,766 --> 00:14:30,067 I had a headache that 291 00:14:30,069 --> 00:14:34,739 progressively got stronger. 292 00:14:34,741 --> 00:14:37,542 And you think this was caused by the paranormal? 293 00:14:37,544 --> 00:14:39,010 Yeah. 294 00:14:39,012 --> 00:14:40,812 Did you have them ever again? 295 00:14:40,814 --> 00:14:41,879 Yes. 296 00:14:41,881 --> 00:14:43,681 Your mom mentioned she gets headaches. 297 00:14:43,683 --> 00:14:45,749 You ever been around mom when she got them? 298 00:14:45,751 --> 00:14:46,684 Yeah. 299 00:14:46,686 --> 00:14:50,288 I got them the same time as she did. 300 00:14:50,290 --> 00:14:52,223 If things are so bad here for everybody else 301 00:14:52,225 --> 00:14:55,893 and they've got to move, would you be okay with that? 302 00:14:55,895 --> 00:14:56,895 Yeah. 303 00:15:00,900 --> 00:15:03,568 There is about two or three women here. 304 00:15:03,570 --> 00:15:05,636 I think they're whores. 305 00:15:05,638 --> 00:15:08,372 I guess they probably had Syphilis, I'm thinking. 306 00:15:08,374 --> 00:15:09,640 They're rotting. 307 00:15:09,642 --> 00:15:11,576 One of them doesn't have a nose, you know? 308 00:15:11,578 --> 00:15:13,378 The other one is, like, missing, you know, 309 00:15:13,380 --> 00:15:15,679 pretty much her whole face. 310 00:15:15,681 --> 00:15:17,548 And they look scarier than... 311 00:15:23,056 --> 00:15:24,889 You know if they interact with 312 00:15:24,891 --> 00:15:26,090 the living in any way? 313 00:15:26,092 --> 00:15:30,194 These whores are pulling memories out. 314 00:15:30,196 --> 00:15:31,863 I think that the living have headaches from that, 315 00:15:31,865 --> 00:15:33,865 and I think that they have nightmares from that. 316 00:15:33,867 --> 00:15:35,533 It's very unhealthy. 317 00:15:41,207 --> 00:15:45,376 They like this room. 318 00:15:45,378 --> 00:15:48,613 They're attracted to this living person here 319 00:15:48,615 --> 00:15:51,549 'cause they're a physical medium. 320 00:15:51,551 --> 00:15:54,952 These whores think that this person has been neglected. 321 00:15:54,954 --> 00:15:58,289 They basically want to adopt this person. 322 00:15:58,291 --> 00:16:01,158 - Is this person in danger? - Yeah. 323 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:03,094 The whores have been attached to this person 324 00:16:03,096 --> 00:16:05,262 for their whole life and make bad... 325 00:16:05,264 --> 00:16:10,301 happen, and they can kill the living person here. 326 00:16:22,699 --> 00:16:26,801 Look, Elkview is a tiny town, barely over 1,200 people. 327 00:16:26,803 --> 00:16:28,469 So when I made my usual calls, 328 00:16:28,471 --> 00:16:31,439 just about everyone knew Sara and Mark's property. 329 00:16:31,441 --> 00:16:33,307 I'm heading over to meet with an archivist who says, 330 00:16:33,309 --> 00:16:34,809 one of the original owners 331 00:16:34,811 --> 00:16:36,711 suffered a lot of tragedies there. 332 00:16:42,218 --> 00:16:43,617 Now, Matt, you mentioned on the phone 333 00:16:43,619 --> 00:16:45,386 that the Pauley family suffered some tragedies 334 00:16:45,388 --> 00:16:47,255 while they were on my clients' property. 335 00:16:47,257 --> 00:16:49,089 When did they get my clients' property? 336 00:16:49,091 --> 00:16:52,827 Daniel Pauley bought your clients' property in about 1858. 337 00:16:52,829 --> 00:16:54,762 So how much property did he have? 338 00:16:54,764 --> 00:16:57,898 Well, he purchased 670 acres. 339 00:16:57,900 --> 00:16:59,333 Wow. 340 00:16:59,335 --> 00:17:01,602 Does he move on the property right then and there? Yes. Yes. 341 00:17:01,604 --> 00:17:03,270 He and his wife, Cinthya, and their eight children, 342 00:17:03,272 --> 00:17:06,207 they moved their immediately and built a house. 343 00:17:06,209 --> 00:17:08,676 You mentioned on the phone, there were some deaths 344 00:17:08,678 --> 00:17:10,911 in regards to the family. What happened? 345 00:17:10,913 --> 00:17:13,748 Cinthya gives birth to a baby boy named Benjamin. 346 00:17:13,750 --> 00:17:18,018 But unfortunately, Benjamin dies when he's only 4 months old. 347 00:17:18,020 --> 00:17:19,287 4 months? 348 00:17:19,289 --> 00:17:21,089 Yeah, same year they move onto the property. 349 00:17:21,091 --> 00:17:22,490 This is the death record of it? 350 00:17:22,492 --> 00:17:24,091 - That's right. - What happens after that? 351 00:17:24,093 --> 00:17:25,259 Several years later, 352 00:17:25,261 --> 00:17:27,328 the American Civil War is going on. 353 00:17:27,330 --> 00:17:30,631 Daniel goes off to fight for the North. 354 00:17:30,633 --> 00:17:32,499 I mean, how old is he at this point? He's 50. 355 00:17:32,501 --> 00:17:34,368 All right. So let me get this straight. 356 00:17:34,370 --> 00:17:36,304 The guy's 50, joins the Union Army. 357 00:17:36,306 --> 00:17:37,438 That's correct. 358 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:39,973 And we do know that the company he served in lost 359 00:17:39,975 --> 00:17:43,711 about 200 men to disease, probably dysentery. 360 00:17:43,713 --> 00:17:45,780 And a lot of that was due to the, you know, 361 00:17:45,782 --> 00:17:48,182 the sanitation conditions. 362 00:17:48,184 --> 00:17:51,051 So in these camps, it just was not a very healthy place to be. 363 00:17:51,053 --> 00:17:55,990 And that's a horrible way to go. Yes. 364 00:17:55,992 --> 00:17:58,126 I'm seeing that group of bandits, 365 00:17:58,128 --> 00:18:01,495 and they don't look good. 366 00:18:01,497 --> 00:18:03,464 They all got sick, and they all died 367 00:18:03,466 --> 00:18:06,500 horrible deaths from this illness. 368 00:18:06,502 --> 00:18:09,203 And they are damned to wander here. 369 00:18:12,775 --> 00:18:15,509 The leader of these bandits 370 00:18:15,511 --> 00:18:19,413 is a colonial rogue soldier. 371 00:18:19,415 --> 00:18:20,948 So can you describe this guy? 372 00:18:20,950 --> 00:18:24,685 He looks to be in his 40s, I would guess, 373 00:18:24,687 --> 00:18:27,154 very tall and he had on this 374 00:18:27,156 --> 00:18:31,526 very rich velvet blue 375 00:18:31,528 --> 00:18:33,360 Military jacket. 376 00:18:33,362 --> 00:18:37,098 He was in the military, and I believe he went rogue. 377 00:18:42,505 --> 00:18:44,105 How does it go for him after that? 378 00:18:44,107 --> 00:18:46,574 He's able to come home to Cinthya and the children 379 00:18:46,576 --> 00:18:50,278 unscathed at the end of the war in 1865. 380 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:55,783 As time wears on, though, on October 5, 1888, he dies. 381 00:18:55,785 --> 00:18:57,051 - Do we know how old he was? - Yes. 382 00:18:57,053 --> 00:18:59,253 He was 73 years old. 383 00:18:59,255 --> 00:19:01,521 Okay. What are we thinking, stroke? 384 00:19:01,523 --> 00:19:03,790 More than likely a stroke. 385 00:19:03,792 --> 00:19:04,925 All right. So Daniel is dead. 386 00:19:04,927 --> 00:19:06,294 Does Cinthya remain on the property? 387 00:19:06,296 --> 00:19:08,462 She does, and she winds up dying in 388 00:19:08,464 --> 00:19:11,131 February of 1890 when she's 72. 389 00:19:11,133 --> 00:19:13,334 - And on my clients' property? - That's correct. 390 00:19:13,336 --> 00:19:14,802 What happens with the property? 391 00:19:14,804 --> 00:19:17,804 Well, it stays in the family and it is Daniel's grandson, 392 00:19:17,806 --> 00:19:20,541 George, who actually buys the property. 393 00:19:20,543 --> 00:19:25,412 In 1894, he and his wife have a young son named Romey 394 00:19:25,414 --> 00:19:28,482 who dies before he's even a year old. 395 00:19:28,484 --> 00:19:29,884 What happens after that? 396 00:19:29,886 --> 00:19:32,820 Well, George actually is the final chapter 397 00:19:32,822 --> 00:19:34,889 of the Pauley tragedies. 398 00:19:34,891 --> 00:19:37,824 In 1906, when he's only 36 years old, 399 00:19:37,826 --> 00:19:41,428 he dies very quickly, very mysteriously. 400 00:19:41,430 --> 00:19:46,500 All we have to go on is his obituary. 401 00:19:46,502 --> 00:19:48,569 So we don't know if it was an accident, illness. 402 00:19:48,571 --> 00:19:50,471 It doesn't tell us what happened to him. 403 00:19:50,473 --> 00:19:52,473 But we do know it was very unexpected. 404 00:19:55,712 --> 00:19:58,145 I think there are so many dead people here 405 00:19:58,147 --> 00:20:01,115 because of the vortex. 406 00:20:01,117 --> 00:20:04,986 Dead people can come and go through it, also beings, 407 00:20:04,988 --> 00:20:07,688 entities, like, things that have never been human. 408 00:20:07,690 --> 00:20:11,325 They can come and go through it. 409 00:20:11,327 --> 00:20:14,395 And how would the living be affected by the vortex? 410 00:20:14,397 --> 00:20:16,597 They would feel anxious. 411 00:20:16,599 --> 00:20:19,500 They would have equilibrium issues. 412 00:20:19,502 --> 00:20:23,203 It could cause long-term illnesses, 413 00:20:23,205 --> 00:20:25,872 also neurological damage. 414 00:20:25,874 --> 00:20:28,676 This thing is really dangerous. 415 00:20:28,678 --> 00:20:30,745 I think that it can kill people. 416 00:20:34,817 --> 00:20:37,318 A local EMT just called me. 417 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:40,021 Now, he says Elkview has been completely flooded 418 00:20:40,023 --> 00:20:41,789 several times. 419 00:20:41,791 --> 00:20:44,558 It turns out, one of the most recent ones was deadly, 420 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:45,960 and one of the victims died 421 00:20:45,962 --> 00:20:47,361 right near Mark and Sara's house. 422 00:20:54,903 --> 00:20:55,902 Now, Tim, thanks for meeting me. 423 00:20:55,904 --> 00:20:58,339 I really appreciate that. 424 00:20:58,341 --> 00:21:01,041 You mentioned on the phone that one of my clients' neighbors 425 00:21:01,043 --> 00:21:03,577 perished during this big flood. What happened? 426 00:21:03,579 --> 00:21:05,512 Little Sandy Creek runs along the property 427 00:21:05,514 --> 00:21:07,448 that you're investigating. 428 00:21:07,450 --> 00:21:11,218 In June of 1998, a big powerful storm hit the Elkview area. 429 00:21:11,220 --> 00:21:13,054 Okay. So how bad did it get? 430 00:21:13,056 --> 00:21:16,057 İt got pretty deep, and it destroyed a lot of property 431 00:21:16,059 --> 00:21:17,558 and took some lives. 432 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:19,927 Wow. All right. 433 00:21:19,929 --> 00:21:21,795 So obviously, the water rose. 434 00:21:21,797 --> 00:21:24,265 What were the flood levels at my clients' property? 435 00:21:24,267 --> 00:21:27,101 Wow. It got really high. Okay. 436 00:21:27,103 --> 00:21:28,669 So what do we know about the poor guy 437 00:21:28,671 --> 00:21:30,071 that died in this flood? 438 00:21:30,073 --> 00:21:32,406 Well, Mr. Richard Varium, he was an 83-year-old guy that lived 439 00:21:32,408 --> 00:21:33,607 about 1,000 feet from the property 440 00:21:33,609 --> 00:21:34,942 you're investigating. 441 00:21:34,944 --> 00:21:37,010 I have a picture of Mr. Varium when he was younger. 442 00:21:37,012 --> 00:21:41,148 He had been living alone for quite a while. 443 00:21:41,150 --> 00:21:44,852 He was bound to a wheelchair and also blind. 444 00:21:44,854 --> 00:21:46,887 He was in a bad situation. 445 00:21:46,889 --> 00:21:48,322 What happened? 446 00:21:48,324 --> 00:21:51,525 Family tried to get him out, and they got him to the porch 447 00:21:51,527 --> 00:21:53,861 and realized that the water was too swift, muddy, 448 00:21:53,863 --> 00:21:56,097 with a lot of debris and then went to get help. 449 00:21:56,099 --> 00:21:57,898 By the time they got back, 450 00:21:57,900 --> 00:22:00,100 he had washed away along with the porch. 451 00:22:00,102 --> 00:22:02,502 And he was found downstream about 1/4 452 00:22:02,504 --> 00:22:03,604 of a mile in some trees. 453 00:22:08,110 --> 00:22:13,747 There was something about water issues here and flooding 454 00:22:13,749 --> 00:22:17,351 'cause I saw water come down, like, a wall. 455 00:22:22,859 --> 00:22:25,859 These water issues are due directly 456 00:22:25,861 --> 00:22:28,462 to the paranormal phenomena here. 457 00:22:28,464 --> 00:22:31,065 That's not good. 458 00:22:31,067 --> 00:22:33,334 The problem here is the land. 459 00:22:33,336 --> 00:22:38,538 Exposure to the land seems to trap the dead here 460 00:22:38,540 --> 00:22:43,143 or bring them back to be trapped here. 461 00:22:48,317 --> 00:22:50,283 For more information about the show 462 00:22:50,285 --> 00:22:52,887 and if you need us to investigate unexplained activity 463 00:22:52,889 --> 00:22:53,954 in your home... 464 00:22:53,956 --> 00:22:57,157 Please visit travelchannel.com/thedeadfiles. 465 00:22:57,159 --> 00:22:58,492 Click on "Help Me, Dead Files!" 466 00:22:58,494 --> 00:22:59,994 to submit your story, and we'll help if we can. 467 00:23:09,789 --> 00:23:11,889 So far, I've got a family being tormented 468 00:23:11,891 --> 00:23:16,827 in their own home on a property where at least five people died. 469 00:23:16,829 --> 00:23:20,264 But I want to see if there is anything else. 470 00:23:20,266 --> 00:23:22,299 Searching through old records, 471 00:23:22,301 --> 00:23:25,402 I find an article about another member of the Pauley family. 472 00:23:25,404 --> 00:23:28,439 It turns out he was murdered right next to Sara 473 00:23:28,441 --> 00:23:31,175 and Mark's property. 474 00:23:31,177 --> 00:23:33,110 I'm heading over to meet historian and old friend, 475 00:23:33,112 --> 00:23:34,711 Jim Casto. 476 00:23:34,713 --> 00:23:36,647 He's looked into this case for me 477 00:23:36,649 --> 00:23:39,483 and says it's got all the ingredients for violence -- 478 00:23:39,485 --> 00:23:41,552 friendship, love, and betrayal. 479 00:23:47,293 --> 00:23:49,426 Well, Jim, it's good to see you again. 480 00:23:49,428 --> 00:23:52,496 Now, the homicide, it happened right near my clients' property, 481 00:23:52,498 --> 00:23:54,298 and it involved one of the Pauleys. 482 00:23:54,300 --> 00:23:55,665 So what can you tell me about it? 483 00:23:55,667 --> 00:23:59,536 The victim was 27-year-old Clarence Pauley, 484 00:23:59,538 --> 00:24:02,439 and he and his wife and his three kids lived 485 00:24:02,441 --> 00:24:04,775 just down the road from the property. 486 00:24:04,777 --> 00:24:08,078 There is a photo of him in his Navy uniform 487 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,581 during his World War II service. 488 00:24:10,583 --> 00:24:12,849 Despite being a married man, 489 00:24:12,851 --> 00:24:15,286 Clarence was conducting an affair 490 00:24:15,288 --> 00:24:18,255 with the wife of his best friend, 491 00:24:18,257 --> 00:24:21,592 Arnold Eldgewick, and her name was Mary. 492 00:24:21,594 --> 00:24:23,127 What happened with the homicide? 493 00:24:23,129 --> 00:24:29,266 On the night of May 27, 1947, 494 00:24:29,268 --> 00:24:32,403 Clarence drove Mary to her sister's house, 495 00:24:32,405 --> 00:24:35,538 where she had been staying. - Okay. 496 00:24:35,540 --> 00:24:39,977 What they didn't know was that Arnold was there waiting on them 497 00:24:39,979 --> 00:24:43,981 in the dark, shotgun in hand. 498 00:24:43,983 --> 00:24:47,318 They pulled up. Mary saw him standing there. 499 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:48,719 She got out of the car. 500 00:24:48,721 --> 00:24:52,289 He fired a shotgun blast to her but missed. 501 00:24:52,291 --> 00:24:54,525 She fled and went down the road. 502 00:24:54,527 --> 00:24:56,093 Clarence gets out of the car. 503 00:24:56,095 --> 00:24:57,595 But before he gets out of the car, 504 00:24:57,597 --> 00:25:00,964 he picks up a heavy hammer and he starts toward Arnold. 505 00:25:00,966 --> 00:25:02,733 The guy's got a shotgun, and he grabs a hammer? 506 00:25:02,735 --> 00:25:04,802 - It seems odd. - Yeah. 507 00:25:04,804 --> 00:25:06,904 Arnold fired again. 508 00:25:06,906 --> 00:25:09,706 This time, his shot hit its mark. 509 00:25:09,708 --> 00:25:14,110 It pierced Clarence's chest right into his heart. 510 00:25:14,112 --> 00:25:18,248 He died instantly. 511 00:25:18,250 --> 00:25:20,050 Okay. So Arnold kills this guy. 512 00:25:20,052 --> 00:25:21,318 Do the cops arrest him? 513 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:23,787 Well, they didn't have to bother looking for him. 514 00:25:23,789 --> 00:25:27,491 He drove himself straight to the county jail, 515 00:25:27,493 --> 00:25:30,394 turned himself in, confessed what he had done. 516 00:25:30,396 --> 00:25:32,529 And when they asked him why, he said, 517 00:25:32,531 --> 00:25:34,798 "I thought I had done a good deed." 518 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:38,402 Here is a mug shot taken at the West Virginia prison. 519 00:25:38,404 --> 00:25:41,005 He's got psycho written in his eyes. 520 00:25:41,007 --> 00:25:42,006 I can tell you that. 521 00:25:42,008 --> 00:25:43,340 - Absolutely. - All right. 522 00:25:43,342 --> 00:25:45,275 So how much time did he wind up getting? 523 00:25:45,277 --> 00:25:47,978 He served three years in the West Virginia State Pen. 524 00:25:47,980 --> 00:25:50,915 He got away with pretty much premeditated murder. 525 00:25:50,917 --> 00:25:52,215 So it would seem. 526 00:25:55,020 --> 00:26:00,958 Something happened where this woman is freaking out. 527 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,693 I'm hearing, like, men's voices talking, yelling. 528 00:26:08,935 --> 00:26:11,902 Some jealousy issues, I heard a gunshot. 529 00:26:15,041 --> 00:26:18,242 I'm getting just a lot of sadness. 530 00:26:27,386 --> 00:26:30,387 I saw a lot of dead during my walk, 531 00:26:30,389 --> 00:26:32,790 but two groups concerned me the most. 532 00:26:32,792 --> 00:26:35,025 First, the gang of bandits, 533 00:26:35,027 --> 00:26:38,195 these figures are completely black. 534 00:26:38,197 --> 00:26:41,832 Their eyes were white. 535 00:26:41,834 --> 00:26:47,670 They look like kind of these mutant monsters. 536 00:26:47,672 --> 00:26:52,743 Next, I describe the prostitutes terrorizing a young boy. 537 00:26:52,745 --> 00:26:54,210 He is pissed off. 538 00:26:54,212 --> 00:26:59,283 He's like this because they keep him up all night. 539 00:26:59,285 --> 00:27:02,086 One of them is kind of missing half of her face. 540 00:27:02,088 --> 00:27:04,187 It's been rotted off already. 541 00:27:04,189 --> 00:27:05,956 The other one, her nose fell off. 542 00:27:12,665 --> 00:27:15,499 Amy, is this what you saw? 543 00:27:15,501 --> 00:27:18,902 Yes. That's what I saw. 544 00:27:37,956 --> 00:27:40,891 Now that Amy and I have completed our investigations, 545 00:27:40,893 --> 00:27:42,893 we're ready to reveal our findings to each other 546 00:27:42,895 --> 00:27:45,429 and our clients for the first time. 547 00:27:45,431 --> 00:27:48,298 Amy, I'd like you to meet Sara and her husband, Mark. 548 00:27:48,300 --> 00:27:50,968 Now, they live here with their two young sons. 549 00:27:50,970 --> 00:27:53,303 I've got a photo. 550 00:27:53,305 --> 00:27:54,571 This is Lane, who is 13. 551 00:27:54,573 --> 00:27:57,340 This is Tanner, who's 10. 552 00:27:57,342 --> 00:27:59,776 Now, Mark here travels a lot for work, 553 00:27:59,778 --> 00:28:01,378 so Sara and the boys are left here a lot 554 00:28:01,380 --> 00:28:03,580 to face the violent activity alone. 555 00:28:03,582 --> 00:28:05,149 She told me, with everything going on, 556 00:28:05,151 --> 00:28:07,317 this place is just a house, not a home. 557 00:28:07,319 --> 00:28:10,954 But they're both hoping we can change that. 558 00:28:10,956 --> 00:28:12,523 So now that Amy has met you guys, 559 00:28:12,525 --> 00:28:17,327 I'm gonna ask her to describe her walk for us. 560 00:28:17,329 --> 00:28:18,862 When I got here, 561 00:28:18,864 --> 00:28:23,800 I saw something that is really not good 562 00:28:23,802 --> 00:28:27,671 for living people -- a vortex. 563 00:28:27,673 --> 00:28:30,074 It's something that's always been here, 564 00:28:30,076 --> 00:28:34,077 and this one is so large and is very powerful. 565 00:28:34,079 --> 00:28:35,879 People who live in areas like this 566 00:28:35,881 --> 00:28:38,215 will have a lot of paranormal phenomena 567 00:28:38,217 --> 00:28:43,554 because entities and dead people come and go through vortexes. 568 00:28:43,556 --> 00:28:48,492 The dead here, due to this kind of energy, are stronger. 569 00:28:48,494 --> 00:28:50,894 They're gonna be much more physical. 570 00:28:50,896 --> 00:28:55,065 They're gonna be able to do a lot more to the living. 571 00:28:55,067 --> 00:28:59,035 And for the living, it makes you guys a lot weaker. 572 00:28:59,037 --> 00:29:01,371 If you have a lot of dead people around you, 573 00:29:01,373 --> 00:29:03,907 you're gonna have a lot of dead energy 574 00:29:03,909 --> 00:29:06,510 which isn't particularly healthy. 575 00:29:06,512 --> 00:29:11,181 And also, because the movement of energy is so intense, 576 00:29:11,183 --> 00:29:14,051 the living here would be, like, constantly falling, 577 00:29:14,053 --> 00:29:17,454 having vertigo-type experiences. 578 00:29:17,456 --> 00:29:20,057 Now, we never talked about equilibrium problems. 579 00:29:20,059 --> 00:29:24,261 You or anybody in the family have any problems with that? Yes. 580 00:29:24,263 --> 00:29:26,463 Months ago, it was just, like, 581 00:29:26,465 --> 00:29:28,732 someone had spun me around 50 times. 582 00:29:28,734 --> 00:29:32,536 I could not get out of the bathroom. 583 00:29:32,538 --> 00:29:35,873 This vortex can also cause you to have nightmares 584 00:29:35,875 --> 00:29:38,742 and bad anxiety. 585 00:29:38,744 --> 00:29:43,013 I feel high, high anxiety for no reason. 586 00:29:43,015 --> 00:29:46,416 Mark, do you or the boys feel that way at all? 587 00:29:46,418 --> 00:29:49,453 - The boys definitely do -- - Okay. 588 00:29:49,455 --> 00:29:51,421 ...especially Lane. 589 00:29:51,423 --> 00:29:54,124 Plus, you mentioned nightmares. Yeah. 590 00:29:54,126 --> 00:29:55,759 You feel like when you wake up, 591 00:29:55,761 --> 00:29:58,161 you have to look around to be like, 592 00:29:58,163 --> 00:30:00,029 "Where the heck have I been?" 593 00:30:00,031 --> 00:30:01,898 And I spoke to both boys, 594 00:30:01,900 --> 00:30:04,901 and they're having nightmare issues as well.- 595 00:30:04,903 --> 00:30:07,571 Long-term, what is this gonna do to us? 596 00:30:07,573 --> 00:30:11,107 Being exposed to just the vortex alone 597 00:30:11,109 --> 00:30:14,110 on a consistent basis can develop 598 00:30:14,112 --> 00:30:17,581 into long-term and terminal illnesses, 599 00:30:17,583 --> 00:30:19,182 things like brain cancer, 600 00:30:19,184 --> 00:30:23,820 dementia, Alzheimer's, heart issues. 601 00:30:23,822 --> 00:30:25,855 Do you guys suffer from anything like that? 602 00:30:25,857 --> 00:30:27,891 High blood pressure, yeah. 603 00:30:27,893 --> 00:30:31,561 But it seems like it probably got worse when I came here. 604 00:30:31,563 --> 00:30:32,862 Exactly. That's the vortex? 605 00:30:32,864 --> 00:30:34,331 It could be, yeah. 606 00:30:38,037 --> 00:30:40,003 What else did you get? 607 00:30:40,005 --> 00:30:43,540 There are three groups of dead people here. 608 00:30:43,542 --> 00:30:47,844 They are each from a separate time period. 609 00:30:47,846 --> 00:30:50,414 One of the groups is Native American. 610 00:30:50,416 --> 00:30:53,783 And basically, they've taken over this basement area. 611 00:30:53,785 --> 00:30:56,386 There is a lot of physical phenomena. 612 00:30:56,388 --> 00:31:01,325 Native Americans are constantly, like, moving things. 613 00:31:01,327 --> 00:31:05,361 They don't want anything down here or person, 614 00:31:05,363 --> 00:31:07,431 and it really bothers them, you know? 615 00:31:07,433 --> 00:31:09,233 They want it all out. 616 00:31:09,235 --> 00:31:11,768 So I thought the living would hear maybe the women talking, 617 00:31:11,770 --> 00:31:15,906 the children laughing and playing, objects moving. 618 00:31:15,908 --> 00:31:17,374 When I spoke with Sara down here in the basement, 619 00:31:17,376 --> 00:31:21,011 she told me about hearing voices down here, conversations, right? 620 00:31:21,013 --> 00:31:22,445 Just whispers. Imagine just people, you know... 621 00:31:24,650 --> 00:31:27,184 Yeah, I'll hear that. 622 00:31:27,186 --> 00:31:28,585 Now, you've also heard someone screwing 623 00:31:28,587 --> 00:31:29,987 with the basement doorknob. 624 00:31:29,989 --> 00:31:31,588 Tell Amy what happened that time. 625 00:31:31,590 --> 00:31:35,025 Imagine somebody walking up the stairs and can't get up, 626 00:31:35,027 --> 00:31:38,594 got angry and just did one of those. 627 00:31:38,596 --> 00:31:40,196 Now, Mark, did Lane tell you about the story 628 00:31:40,198 --> 00:31:42,799 with the rocking chair down here? 629 00:31:42,801 --> 00:31:44,934 Yeah. Just out of the corner of his eye, 630 00:31:44,936 --> 00:31:48,338 he would see this rocking chair move. 631 00:31:48,340 --> 00:31:50,073 Now, does that make sense with all 632 00:31:50,075 --> 00:31:51,608 the Native Americans down here? 633 00:31:51,610 --> 00:31:54,944 Yes. 634 00:31:54,946 --> 00:31:58,348 There is one dead male I saw very clearly. 635 00:31:58,350 --> 00:32:01,351 He is the leader of the second group 636 00:32:01,353 --> 00:32:03,353 of dead people that are here, 637 00:32:03,355 --> 00:32:06,757 and I'll get to those guys in a minute. 638 00:32:06,759 --> 00:32:10,894 This guy was extremely tall, very thin, very pale. 639 00:32:10,896 --> 00:32:14,630 He looked to be in his 40s. 640 00:32:14,632 --> 00:32:16,767 He was wearing an interesting hat. 641 00:32:16,769 --> 00:32:20,170 He also had a royal blue 642 00:32:20,172 --> 00:32:23,140 Military-style jacket. 643 00:32:23,142 --> 00:32:27,644 I think he was in the military, and he went rogue. 644 00:32:27,646 --> 00:32:30,447 And like I said, he had a team of men. 645 00:32:30,449 --> 00:32:33,717 I mean, I kept calling them kind of, like, pirates or bandits 646 00:32:33,719 --> 00:32:36,586 because of how they dressed and acted. 647 00:32:36,588 --> 00:32:38,455 Eventually, though, all of these men 648 00:32:38,457 --> 00:32:41,791 became extremely ill from some kind of illness, 649 00:32:41,793 --> 00:32:45,695 and they all died horrible deaths. 650 00:32:45,697 --> 00:32:47,264 Some of the stuff you're talking about reminds me 651 00:32:47,266 --> 00:32:49,332 of one of the original owners of your property, 652 00:32:49,334 --> 00:32:52,269 and this guy goes back to 1858. 653 00:32:52,271 --> 00:32:57,007 He bought 670 acres, including the property the house sits on. 654 00:32:57,009 --> 00:32:58,541 Now his name was Daniel Pauley. 655 00:32:58,543 --> 00:33:00,677 Now, you said the guy you saw was in the Military 656 00:33:00,679 --> 00:33:04,013 and might have had a Military jacket on?- 657 00:33:04,015 --> 00:33:06,550 Pauley served in the Union Army during the Civil War 658 00:33:06,552 --> 00:33:10,220 which would have been a blue uniform. 659 00:33:10,222 --> 00:33:12,321 He was 50 years old when he joined. 660 00:33:12,323 --> 00:33:14,958 You said you saw a bunch of men dying of some horrible illness. 661 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,961 Now, when Pauley was serving, 662 00:33:17,963 --> 00:33:21,464 200 of the guys he served with died of dysentery. 663 00:33:21,466 --> 00:33:23,633 But he managed to survive somehow. 664 00:33:23,635 --> 00:33:25,836 Now, is it possible Pauley could be the guy you saw? 665 00:33:25,838 --> 00:33:27,503 I kind of think it's unlikely. 666 00:33:27,505 --> 00:33:31,141 I didn't really feel like they lived here. 667 00:33:31,143 --> 00:33:33,343 Okay. At least we know who it's not. 668 00:33:33,345 --> 00:33:35,812 Now, does this guy in blue and his men do anything 669 00:33:35,814 --> 00:33:38,714 to the living here? - Yes. 670 00:33:38,716 --> 00:33:40,316 I think you might hear them 671 00:33:40,318 --> 00:33:44,054 and I tried to speak to them. 672 00:33:44,056 --> 00:33:47,724 But because they can't physically manifest words, 673 00:33:47,726 --> 00:33:50,193 this weird noise came out. 674 00:33:50,195 --> 00:33:52,395 It's like this crackling weird noise. 675 00:33:52,397 --> 00:33:53,529 Well, it's funny you mention that 676 00:33:53,531 --> 00:33:54,598 because I just looked at Mark. 677 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,800 He told me about hearing these, like, a beep? 678 00:33:57,802 --> 00:34:01,004 Yeah, just a beep out of nowhere. 679 00:34:01,006 --> 00:34:02,505 It sounds like it's right next to you, 680 00:34:02,507 --> 00:34:05,142 but there is nothing there. 681 00:34:05,144 --> 00:34:09,012 I got that there is one male that they don't particularly 682 00:34:09,014 --> 00:34:13,683 like here, that they do focus on and pick on often. 683 00:34:13,685 --> 00:34:16,753 One of them attacked this male here. 684 00:34:16,755 --> 00:34:21,024 I saw him jumping on his back, pushing him up the stairs 685 00:34:21,026 --> 00:34:24,261 there into the family room area, 686 00:34:24,263 --> 00:34:29,733 maybe feeling, like, an, you know, a hit here maybe, 687 00:34:29,735 --> 00:34:33,236 maybe choking sensation, maybe feeling like, you know, 688 00:34:33,238 --> 00:34:36,606 the wind's getting knocked out of you. 689 00:34:36,608 --> 00:34:38,708 It sounds to me like you're talking about Mark. 690 00:34:38,710 --> 00:34:40,076 Tell her about the experience you had on the couch 691 00:34:40,078 --> 00:34:41,511 'cause that was pretty bad. 692 00:34:41,513 --> 00:34:45,281 One night, okay, my mouth was wide open and I was snoring. 693 00:34:45,283 --> 00:34:47,317 And it just felt like somebody had come up 694 00:34:47,319 --> 00:34:50,286 and took their hand and slammed my mouth shut. 695 00:34:51,457 --> 00:34:53,957 And the bottom side of my chin 696 00:34:53,959 --> 00:34:57,126 tingled for at least an hour or two. 697 00:34:57,128 --> 00:34:59,962 You mentioned you'd saw a male getting attacked. 698 00:34:59,964 --> 00:35:01,198 - Yeah. - But I got news for you. 699 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:06,536 I got photos of Sara waking up with bruises. 700 00:35:06,538 --> 00:35:09,206 Here, look at these. 701 00:35:09,208 --> 00:35:11,340 Wow. 702 00:35:11,342 --> 00:35:16,646 It feels like somebody has taken a baseball bat to my ribcage. 703 00:35:16,648 --> 00:35:18,481 Is there any other way Mark and Sara 704 00:35:18,483 --> 00:35:20,083 would experience these guys? 705 00:35:20,085 --> 00:35:23,520 It's possible that the living could see them. 706 00:35:23,522 --> 00:35:28,258 They were in shadow and I had a sketch done of what I saw. 707 00:35:33,532 --> 00:35:38,835 Wow. 708 00:35:38,837 --> 00:35:43,573 Wow. 709 00:35:43,575 --> 00:35:46,976 I have seen a dark apparition, 710 00:35:46,978 --> 00:35:50,247 a shadow figure, that I thought was Mark, 711 00:35:50,249 --> 00:35:53,183 and he backed into the wall. 712 00:35:53,185 --> 00:35:55,652 So it sounds like these bandits are what they're seeing? 713 00:35:55,654 --> 00:35:58,221 Correct. These guys are always around. 714 00:35:58,223 --> 00:36:02,725 They don't ever leave. 715 00:36:02,727 --> 00:36:04,661 You said there were three groups of dead people 716 00:36:04,663 --> 00:36:05,895 you were concerned about. - Yeah. 717 00:36:05,897 --> 00:36:07,731 What was the third one? 718 00:36:07,733 --> 00:36:10,066 So there is this other group of dead people 719 00:36:10,068 --> 00:36:13,469 that are here that are prostitutes. 720 00:36:13,471 --> 00:36:15,705 There's two or three of them. 721 00:36:15,707 --> 00:36:20,276 I think that these women suffered from syphilis. 722 00:36:21,647 --> 00:36:24,113 For instance, one doesn't have a nose. 723 00:36:24,115 --> 00:36:26,516 There is another one who has the sores. 724 00:36:26,518 --> 00:36:29,352 It can be a rotting disease. 725 00:36:29,354 --> 00:36:31,354 As far as what the living would experience, 726 00:36:31,356 --> 00:36:33,155 they will go into your minds 727 00:36:33,157 --> 00:36:37,661 and pull out really bad memories, 728 00:36:37,663 --> 00:36:41,097 causing wicked headaches and nightmares. 729 00:36:41,099 --> 00:36:43,199 You and Tanner both have headaches. 730 00:36:43,201 --> 00:36:47,070 I mean, we're talking full-blown migraine to where, 731 00:36:47,072 --> 00:36:49,639 you know, you're nauseous. 732 00:36:49,641 --> 00:36:54,477 The other thing that's going on is, they love children. 733 00:36:54,479 --> 00:36:57,747 They wanted the child who's in the yellow room. 734 00:36:57,749 --> 00:36:59,449 That's Tanner. 735 00:36:59,451 --> 00:37:04,220 They're attracted to him because he is a physical medium. 736 00:37:06,891 --> 00:37:11,127 A lot of this activity started after Tanner hit about 2. 737 00:37:11,129 --> 00:37:12,996 Is there a connection between him turning 2 738 00:37:12,998 --> 00:37:15,799 and what's going on here? - Yes. 739 00:37:15,801 --> 00:37:20,002 He's becoming a little bit more cognizant, you know, aware. 740 00:37:20,004 --> 00:37:22,538 So he can interact with them in a way 741 00:37:22,540 --> 00:37:25,675 that a lot of other people can't. 742 00:37:25,677 --> 00:37:27,443 You didn't have a surprised look on your face 743 00:37:27,445 --> 00:37:28,678 when she said he was a physical medium. 744 00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:30,747 You were like, "Yeah." 745 00:37:30,749 --> 00:37:33,149 - We kind of suspected it. - You did? 746 00:37:33,151 --> 00:37:36,352 Yeah. I'm really worried about him because --- 747 00:37:36,354 --> 00:37:37,621 ...what's his life going to be like 748 00:37:37,623 --> 00:37:39,022 and what do we tell him now? 749 00:37:39,024 --> 00:37:40,957 He strikes me as a kid, when you talk to him, 750 00:37:40,959 --> 00:37:43,994 as somebody that has been through a lot. 751 00:37:43,996 --> 00:37:46,162 A lot, exactly. 752 00:37:46,164 --> 00:37:49,499 I did have a sketch done of him 753 00:37:49,501 --> 00:37:53,336 being agitated by these women. 754 00:37:58,510 --> 00:38:01,978 That's gonna be tough for you to see. 755 00:38:01,980 --> 00:38:03,579 Wow. 756 00:38:07,251 --> 00:38:10,953 I mean, I've seen him sit in his bed like that. 757 00:38:10,955 --> 00:38:14,356 You can tell that something bothers him. 758 00:38:14,358 --> 00:38:15,591 All right. 759 00:38:15,593 --> 00:38:17,727 So what do these prostitutes want with Tanner anyway? 760 00:38:17,729 --> 00:38:19,462 These women are nuts. 761 00:38:19,464 --> 00:38:22,065 What they're trying to figure out right now 762 00:38:22,067 --> 00:38:26,068 is if they want to take him 763 00:38:26,070 --> 00:38:29,606 or if they want to attach to him. 764 00:38:29,608 --> 00:38:32,475 And if they were to attach to him, 765 00:38:32,477 --> 00:38:36,345 they would then cause issues throughout his life. 766 00:38:36,347 --> 00:38:40,950 If they decided to take him, that would result in death. 767 00:38:58,069 --> 00:39:01,604 So Sara and Mark, you guys got a lot of information tonight, 768 00:39:01,606 --> 00:39:05,041 probably a lot more than you bargained for. 769 00:39:05,043 --> 00:39:06,576 But we still haven't answered the big question. 770 00:39:06,578 --> 00:39:09,546 Is there anything you can do to stop the activity here 771 00:39:09,548 --> 00:39:10,914 so that you guys can protect 772 00:39:10,916 --> 00:39:15,585 Tanner and live in peace as a family again? 773 00:39:15,587 --> 00:39:20,390 For that answer, I'm gonna turn it over to Amy. 774 00:39:20,392 --> 00:39:22,458 Okay. So here we go. 775 00:39:22,460 --> 00:39:25,628 Basically, what can be done about the vortex 776 00:39:25,630 --> 00:39:29,131 is a reversal of the vortex energy. 777 00:39:29,133 --> 00:39:31,701 Take it from negative to positive. 778 00:39:31,703 --> 00:39:35,805 That way, the entities aren't anymore coming out at you. 779 00:39:35,807 --> 00:39:38,775 They're going in, and then they're moving on. 780 00:39:38,777 --> 00:39:41,744 And negative energy would dissipate over time. 781 00:39:41,746 --> 00:39:43,913 So how can they make that happen? 782 00:39:43,915 --> 00:39:45,948 The one that I know, she is a psychic knower 783 00:39:45,950 --> 00:39:47,517 and a Reiki master. 784 00:39:47,519 --> 00:39:48,851 Okay. 785 00:39:48,853 --> 00:39:52,288 And she also specializes in working with vortex. 786 00:39:52,290 --> 00:39:55,090 It's an extremely difficult task. 787 00:39:55,092 --> 00:39:57,927 I would give the odds 50/50. 788 00:39:57,929 --> 00:40:02,464 You'll know within a week, after the practitioner were to leave, 789 00:40:02,466 --> 00:40:04,601 if it worked or not. 790 00:40:04,603 --> 00:40:08,170 Obviously, if it doesn't take, I would recommend that you move. 791 00:40:11,076 --> 00:40:16,679 If it did work, then you would need to find a physical medium 792 00:40:16,681 --> 00:40:20,883 and a shaman to move on the rest of the dead that are here, 793 00:40:20,885 --> 00:40:23,953 the ones who think that they're trapped. 794 00:40:23,955 --> 00:40:26,089 What about the whores? 795 00:40:26,091 --> 00:40:29,325 They're gonna be harder to grasp, 796 00:40:29,327 --> 00:40:32,361 but the medium will be able to do it. 797 00:40:32,363 --> 00:40:37,166 Yeah. They're not gonna have another chance to kill my kid. 798 00:40:37,168 --> 00:40:42,405 They are not harming him ever, ever, ever again. 799 00:40:42,407 --> 00:40:45,841 Even if all of this works, you have to start dealing 800 00:40:45,843 --> 00:40:48,444 and learning about the abilities that your son, 801 00:40:48,446 --> 00:40:51,247 Tanner, has, especially focusing right now 802 00:40:51,249 --> 00:40:55,251 on protection measures and meditation techniques. 803 00:40:55,253 --> 00:40:57,253 If you were in their shoes, what would you do? 804 00:40:57,255 --> 00:41:00,356 - I would be out of here. - Shoot. 805 00:41:00,358 --> 00:41:03,392 If they move and Tanner learns how to deal with his abilities, 806 00:41:03,394 --> 00:41:07,463 should they be okay? - Yeah. 807 00:41:07,465 --> 00:41:09,399 You know, normally, I stick it to the clients. 808 00:41:09,401 --> 00:41:11,935 I'm like, "You're gonna do what Amy advises you." 809 00:41:11,937 --> 00:41:14,203 This is one of those cases where it's, like, you guys 810 00:41:14,205 --> 00:41:16,005 really got to figure this out 811 00:41:16,007 --> 00:41:17,673 and, you know, this is your family. 812 00:41:17,675 --> 00:41:19,609 Not a tough decision when it comes 813 00:41:19,611 --> 00:41:22,345 to the well-being of the family. 814 00:41:22,347 --> 00:41:25,615 - This is just a physical place. - Yeah. 815 00:41:25,617 --> 00:41:26,749 I don't see how we can stay. 816 00:41:26,751 --> 00:41:30,553 We're definitely gonna move. 817 00:41:30,555 --> 00:41:32,689 There is no guarantee that a psychic knower 818 00:41:32,691 --> 00:41:35,625 and a Reiki master can reverse the vortex on Mark 819 00:41:35,627 --> 00:41:37,160 and Sara's property, 820 00:41:37,162 --> 00:41:41,263 so I really hope they take my advice and move. 821 00:41:41,265 --> 00:41:44,901 If they do that and teach Tanner how to deal with his abilities, 822 00:41:44,903 --> 00:41:47,903 they should be able to lead a peaceful life. 823 00:41:47,953 --> 00:41:52,503 Repair and Synchronization by Easy Subtitles Synchronizer 1.0.0.0 63667

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