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I'm seeing blood.

He doesn't have a face anymore.

It kills me to think that he's going

to have to grow up like I did.

You're around this person enough,

and you literally become insane.

He left a lot of bodies in his wake.

He might have killed her.

All I want for my family is to be safe.

I'm extremely worried.

This guy wants death.

This is not a good situation.

My name is Amy Allan.

There's death here.

Don't want to go down there.

I see dead people.

They hide in the walls, and they watch.

I speak to dead people.

She's definitely a serial killer.

And they speak to me.

She's going to torture them.

But there's only one way to know if my findings are real.

They were all murdered.

I rely on my partner.

I'm Steve Di Schiavi.

I'm a retired New York City homicide detective.

So, is this the only time you've been physically attacked?

And I know every person, every house has secrets.

There's no question in my mind

that he was talking about Satan.

It's my job to reveal them.

Who do you think possessed you?

But Steve and I never speak...

We never communicate during an investigation.

...until the very end...

Well, you're not gonna want to see this.

...when we uncover if it's safe for you to stay...

Hell no!

...or time to get out.

Everyone is in jeopardy.

I'm in El Cajon, California.

It's a blue-collar suburb just outside of San Diego.

I got a call from a woman named Melissa.

Now, she sounded really bad.

She told me she was forced to move back into the house

that destroyed her childhood,

and now she's convinced whatever's there

is going after her 6-year-old son.

She really needs our help bad,

and I'm hoping we can help her out.

Before Amy arrives,

I clear the house of any leading information.

Photographs, artwork,

and religious statues can influence her findings,

so it's important that I cover or remove them all.

When I'm finished, the location will be ready

for tonight's walk.

A man is showing me

this, like, 6- to 7-foot skeleton,

half-burnt mess,

and he's, like, oozing, dripping...stuff,

like, blood.

And he says, "I am the great deceiver."

He goes, "Living are being driven insane

by the madness that surrounds them."

And he goes, "You think this is crazy, you ain't seen..."

So, Melissa, when we spoke on the phone,

you sounded pretty upset.

Yeah.

Especially about your youngest son.

What's going on?

Charlie says he hears noises

and sees things

that kids --

You can't just fake stuff like that.

How long has this been going on with him?

He's lived in this house his whole life,

and he started talking to us about it

when he was like 3 or 4.

All right. So who else lives in the house?

My grandfather. He's 85.

- Okay. - Myself.

My husband, Corey. Charlie, he is 6,

and Nathan, who is 16.

- I understand you grew up here. - Yeah, I did.

And it was pretty bad for you as a kid.

Yeah. I always had experiences,

and they never stopped until I left.

It kills me to think that he's going

to have to grow up like I did.

I don't want that.

I just don't. I want him to have a normal childhood.

Why would you come back?

My grandmother passed away,

and my grandfather wasn't doing so well on his own.

The only reason why I came back.

Okay.

This is actually a picture of her with a young Nathan.

What did she die of?

She had a routine back surgery that went wrong.

She came home, and two days later,

she went rushed back to the hospital, and she was dead.

Any other history I should know about?

I had an uncle who passed away here as a child.

- As a child? - As a child.

And this is your grandfather's son?

- Yeah. - You think your grandfather

would be willing to talk to me?

We've never really discussed it much before.

- Okay. - You can try.

So, Melissa, I know you guys are going through hell here,

but give me an idea or a list of what's happening.

Things move on their own.

We have fluctuating moods,

horrible nightmares,

and, like, physical attacks.

You mentioned mood swings. What did you mean by that?

I can just get super angry or super sad, super depressed.

It's just -- on a dime.

And I've never been a depressed person.

Why don't you just leave here, honey,

and take your grandfather with you?

He doesn't want to go. He's asked to die in this house.

That's his wishes. I want to respect his wishes.

- Um... - Okay.

He helped raise me.

He did so much for me,

and I want him to live the rest of his life happy.

There's another man here, and he's very sad.

I think he's suffering from severe depression.

You know, all he does is sit in a ball

and...cry all the...time.

So he is definitely filling the location

with this despair and heaviness.

The living here would feel depressed,

thoughts of suicide and stress,

so we got to get him out.

Okay. So, what's going on in here?

In here, I've seen a full apparition of my grandmother.

So, where exactly did you see your grandmother?

Actually right where I'm standing.

She used to be in the kitchen a lot.

What else is going on?

We hear really loud noises going up and down the stairway.

It actually sounds like a herd of buffalo.

- It's very loud. - All right.

You got two kids here. How do you know it's not them?

Charlie sleeps with us.

Nathan sleeps heavy.

Okay. So what else is going on?

Things get thrown, like, violently thrown.

Like what, for instance?

My hairbrush has gotten thrown

completely across the room with force.

Okay. Has anybody been hit by it?

No, but it went about this far away

from the person's face.

So far, you guys have been kind of lucky.

I mean, what if that caught somebody in the eye?

I figure it's a matter of time.

I mean, with all the stuff going on, you got to feel like

- you're going out of your mind. - I feel insane.

I'm seeing another guy.

He's crazy.

I think he's been in and out of mental institutions.

He's usually confused and lost,

and he's, like, running through the walls, throwing a fit.

I think that the living can hear him,

and he's, like, right up in their faces.

He's over them. He's staring at them.

I think they would feel that, too,

like, that kind of, like, smothering.

They'd wake up and be like, "What the..."

They know somebody's right there.

He's very sick.

You're around this person enough,

and you literally become insane.

Okay. Master bedroom. This is where you sleep

- with your husband... - Yeah.

- ...and Charlie. - And Charlie.

Okay. So what's going on?

Having really bad nightmares.

Okay. Now, what kind of nightmares are you having?

I feel like I can't get home,

like there's something very urgent,

and someone keeps preventing me from coming home.

Anybody else having dreams like that?

Charlie does.

He's woken up with bruises. I have a picture

of when we woke him up.

That's not just a bruise. I mean --

What about you? Are you getting anything like this?

Yeah. I wake up with bruises, scratches,

like burning scratches.

I have a picture.

It actually puffs up.

I mean, we are out in the middle of the mountains here.

Any chance it could be some kind of a rodent

that came in and did this to you or anything like --

- No. - Okay. What else?

I feel like someone is watching me,

but not just watching me,

like, looming over my face and bed.

- Do you see something? - No.

It's just a feeling I get.

Okay. Anything else going on in here?

I was laying in bed,

and I felt a hand grab my ankle,

and it was a forceful grab.

It was so unnerving and so scary.

I just -- I couldn't believe

it was -- that was actually happening.

It's a nightmare.

It's like an actual nightmare.

I mean, does your grandfather know

the sacrifice you're making for him?

No. I don't want him to know.

I don't want him to worry.

He's 85.

He should be enjoying his life.

You know, I don't want to see him upset.

I mean, he's 85. He lived his life.

- Something's got to give here. - Yeah, I agree.

Well, hopefully we can get some help for you that you need.

Yeah.

All right.

I'm seeing blood.

All right. So, skeleton dude,

the one I saw outside when I first got here,

is with me,

and he's like, "The writing's on the wall."

I'm so nervous.

Why are you here?

He says he was asked to be here.

The...would ask that?

Okay. I'm going to assume that someone at some point here

...around with...

and somehow pulled this dead guy here.

He gets physical down here -- slapping,

pulling, pushing,

tugging them by the ankles down the bed.

He's like, "I'll show you. I'll show you how...bad I am."

He's like, "I have killed people."

So, Charlie, let me ask you something.

- How old are you? -6.

So, this looks like a fun room to hang out in.

I mean, do you like it in here?

It's scary for me.

It's scary?

You seen some bad things here?

Can you tell me about some of them?

So, I've heard a noise in the kitchen.

What kind of sound was it?

It was like a bang sound.

Okay. How many times?

Three bangs.

- Three bangs. - From one right here,

one in the kitchen, and then one right next to me.

What else are you experiencing?

I'm seeing stuff in my room.

Okay. What are you seeing?

Black figures.

How often do you see that?

I only see it at night.

All right. So, what else are you seeing?

I was, like, just watching TV,

and I looked over at a bottle,

and it when I was looking at it, it moved.

- Where'd this happen? - In my room.

Okay. So, Charlie, I know this place is scary for you,

but if we could fix this, would you like to stay here?

I want you to get rid of it

so I can sleep in my room again.

Okay. That's what we're here for.

We're going to try to do that. Okay?

Skeleton man, he's, like, showing me the person sleeping,

and he's, like, covering their mouth

and pinching their nose.

He does that until

they, like, pass out,

and then he, like, lets go.

So a lot of walking up, crying, being scared,

seeing him, seeing him, screaming.

So, Corey, I was talking to your wife, Melissa,

and she's really worried about Charlie.

- How about you? - I mean, what do you do

when your 6-year-old son comes to you,

and he's so worried about everything,

and there's nothing I can do?

What I want most for him is to be able

to, you know, have a normal childhood.

She was telling me about her grandfather.

Is he that stubborn where he won't leave here?

There's no talking him out of here.

He'll die in this house.

So, what experiences have you had?

I see shadow figures all over the house.

The one I saw was upstairs, had white eyes,

and when I noticed it,

it was kind of sinking into the floor.

Now, how often are you seeing these things?

Probably at least twice a week.

All right. So you're seeing shadow figures. What else?

Everywhere we go in the house,

it's a constant feeling of being watched.

It's much heavier upstairs.

Is it a peeping tom thing or somebody stalking you?

It's more, like, just a presence right at your back

just looming over you, watching you.

Anything else?

I was actually attacked in the kitchen.

How? I was standing next to the stove.

There was a Tupperware container on top of the fridge,

and it flew across the counter

and hit me in the side of the head with force.

- Were you alone? - No. Nathan was with me.

Are you sure he didn't do it by accident?

Yeah, he was actually on the opposite side of me.

Could have been a glass jar, God forbid.

Right. It had very malicious intent.

With all the activity you guys are experiencing,

it's got to be taking a toll on you and Melissa.

Over the last few years, seeing, like,

a total breakdown in her mentally.

Sometimes she'll wake me up in the middle of the night,

and she'll just be sobbing.

It just breaks my heart to see her that way.

And it's just totally taking a toll on her mental state,

and it's really hard to see her go through that.

So, Corey, when I was talking to your wife,

she mentioned that the house, she feels,

is changing people's personalities.

I definitely would agree with her on that.

We go through bouts of anger, bouts of depression,

and we'll kind of start bickering

amongst each other as a family.

When the anger comes on, does it come on real fast,

- or does it build? - You just go from zero to pissed

in 0.2 seconds out of nowhere.

Okay.

This skeleton guy,

I think that he can jump someone here,

and I think it's a male.

So when he is that way, he is possessed.

There's, like, a change, literally a physical --

There's some kind of physical change

when he's inside of this person.

The skeleton guy goes in,

like, literally walk into the guy's body...

- ...and take that energy

and utilize that anger.

He wants to get the dude possessed to kill other people.

Melissa told me her uncle died in the house

when he was just 4 years old.

She also told me her grandfather never talked about it.

So I was a little surprised this morning when he asked me

to come over to discuss what happened.

Gene, I appreciate you taking the time to talk with me.

I know this is a hard subject.

But what can you tell me about your little boy, Jerry?

He loved playing with the kids in the neighborhood,

and he loved going to baseball games with his brothers,

just a normal 4-year-old boy.

My God. He was such a cute kid.

Yeah, he was a cute kid.

So, Gene, that day, what exactly happened?

On a hot day back in August of '67,

went off to work.

Jerry and a neighborhood friend of his

were looking for a place to play.

And I had my old refrigerator in the garage.

And when the boys got in it, I assume to cool off

or hide, playing hide and seek,

the door automatically caught when they closed the door.

It was an accident.

Okay. So they ran out of oxygen.

Yeah. They suffocated.

Okay.

How'd you and your wife handle this?

As you can imagine, she was pretty well torn up.

- Gene, how old are you now? - I'm 85.

And this still sticks with you today?

Yeah. Yeah.

That and my wife's death, also.

So, Gene, how do you feel as far as,

you know, your wife and your son?

- You think they're here? - I don't know about the son,

but my wife, I feel she's --

She's been looking after me,

keeping me on the straight and narrow.

I think she said she was going to haunt me.

- But in a good way. - In a good way, yeah.

I see a woman.

She's in her late 40s, early 50s.

I see she has long brown hair.

It's kind of clipped up.

She's wearing big glasses.

I think she's white, and she is crying.

She was here at some point

and very stressed out and hysterical.

I don't know what happened.

She's depressed, thoughts of suicide

and stress.

She's screaming, crying, pleading,

"No, no, no, not my baby."

So far, I've got a family being tormented by paranormal activity

on a property where two young children suffocated.

But I want to see if there's anything else.

Searching through old records, I come across a serial killer

named Clyde Carl Wilkerson.

Turns out, he terrorized the El Cajon area for years.

So I reached out to a local true crime writer

who's on her way over to meet me.

She says to this day, no one knows exactly

how many people this guy killed.

Cathy, thanks for meeting with me. I appreciate that.

So, let's start from the beginning.

What do we know about this Wilkerson guy?

Clyde Carl Wilkerson was born in Northern California.

And from day one, he was trouble.

He was almost a blueprint for becoming a serial killer.

At age 6, he committed arson, was arrested for it.

And at age 8, he was given psychiatric treatment.

I mean, that's the youngest I've ever heard.

He was in and out of mental institutions

most of his childhood.

I'm seeing the crazy guy again.

I'm in his body, and I'm looking down a hospital corridor.

No, it's not a hospital.

It's like a psych ward.

I'm seeing only a few other patients,

and I would say this is the 1940s or '50s.

He's strapped on a... weird table.

The table looks like those tables

that they do lethal injections on.

I know that he was at least

in some kind of institution on two occasions

for his mental state.

All right. So, Cathy, what's the body count with this guy?

Well, he was convicted of three,

but he was suspected of many more.

Okay. So we know he did three. What about the first one?

On June 6, 1965,

just 3 miles from your client's home,

Cheryl Burnett got home at 3:00 a.m. in the morning

from bowling with friends. She was 19 years old.

Her toddler was sleeping in the bedroom.

And Wilkerson broke in through a window

and ended up raping her

and then strangling her

- with a drapery cord. - All right.

Does he get arrested then for that murder?

Not then for that murder,

but he was always in trouble with the law.

Okay. What about the second one?

This one was just a mile from your client's home.

About two or three weeks later,

a couple were getting ready for bed.

Wilkerson goes into the apartment building

and starts beating on the couple with a crescent wrench.

He beat them so badly that he killed the husband.

Does he kill the wife, as well?

He raped the wife and left her for dead, but she survived.

Okay. Was she able to identify him?

She was unable to.

Okay. So now we got two murders a couple weeks apart.

When's the third one happen?

Third one doesn't happen until 1975.

Okay. So it's 1975. What happened?

Wilkerson ends up going to Tulsa, Oklahoma,

breaks into an apartment,

and rapes and murders

28-year-old college student Geraldine Martin.

All right. So we got three homicides we know he did.

How did they catch him?

Three letters -- DNA.

The El Cajon Police Department, they grabbed him in 2002.

I can only imagine there's got to be a lot more.

I think he left a lot of bodies in his wake.

Okay. So is this guy still alive?

No. He died in 2016

at age 77 of an illness.

He died in prison.

So, there's this woman,

and it's a beautiful day out,

and it's 1978.

The crazy guy, he's watching her.

And they're at the beach.

And so I was like, "Did he do something to her?"

He might have killed her.

He says he's very lost and confused.

He's very sick.

Do you know how he died?

I don't know. Dementia, maybe a stroke.

He said they scrambled his brain.

And he says, "I ruined everything, everything."

And then I know he's dead, too.

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You know, another thing caught my eye in research.

The day after the attacks on Pearl Harbor,

the military took over a bunch of land in the area,

including Melissa and Corey's property.

I'm heading over to meet with a military expert,

who says there was a deadly accident on the site

I definitely want to know about.

Well, Sergeant Major, thanks for meeting with me.

You mentioned on the phone that the military

basically just took over my client's property

right after the Pearl Harbor attack.

Now, was that common?

It was very common on the West Coast.

The Army came in.

The federal government seized the property.

All right. So I know my client's house wasn't built yet,

but who owned the property back then?

This was a farm owned by a gentleman named Ed Fletcher.

So what'd they wind up doing with the property?

The property became an army camp known as Camp La Mesa,

and by the way, I have some pictures here

of what the camp looked like at the early part of the war

and then later when they actually built buildings.

Had a pretty big setup, didn't they?

It was an infantry regiment of 1,400 men.

So, you mentioned on the phone, there was a pretty bad accident

I'm going to want to know about.

Yeah, on April 24, 1942,

there was mortar training.

That's what the weapon looks like.

Okay. I'm familiar with this.

And one of the rounds exploded in the tube.

Ooh. Now, how bad was this explosion?

It killed five men instantly. One died in hospital.

-16 were wounded. - Okay.

So were there any other deaths that I should know about?

Not that I'm aware of, but here at Gillespie Field,

which bordered Ed Fletcher's property,

there's been 24 people killed in 13 separate accidents.

Okay. So that's a lot deaths.

I don't want to go through all of them, but did any stand out?

Yeah, two of them really stood out.

In January of 1981,

a 15-year-old by the name of Grant Thompson

talked his mother, his stepfather,

and two of their friends into flying to Las Vegas.

Never mind that he had never flown a plane before.

So these four adults got on a plane with a 15-year-old,

- and this kid never flew. - That's correct.

Okay. What the hell happened?

The plane never got off the ground. It crashed.

All were killed aboard.

Okay. That was a pretty bad accident.

What about the second one?

The second one was a Navy F-14 Tomcat

flying out of Naval Air Station Miramar in San Diego.

It encountered mechanical problems,

and the air crew had to eject.

Upon ejection, one of the air crew broke his neck.

All right. So do we know how he broke his neck?

The plane was out of control.

It was upside down when they ejected,

and he broke his neck somewhere in that process.

- Okay. - Now, the plane did travel on

and crashed here on the airfield.

It injured three people.

It destroyed $6 to $9 million worth of airport property.

Have you ever seen this much death on one airfield before?

Not that I'm aware of.

- It's, like, bad luck over here. - It's quite bizarre.

I'm seeing the skeleton dude in here.

Do you know how he died?

I see blood, and I feel like he had a bad death.

He's, like, dripping and melting.

I know his neck got broken.

I mean, he looks a little burnt.

I saw several dead people during my walk,

but the skeleton man tormenting a child

had me the most concerned.

There's this dead guy

who doesn't really have any clothes on.

There were definitely a lot of areas

on his body and face that were burned.

And there was a child in a bed,

and he has his hands on the kid's face,

over the mouth and pinching the nose.

Amy, is this what you saw?

Yes.

Now that Amy and I have completed our investigations,

we're ready to reveal our findings to each other

and our clients for the first time.

So, Amy, this is Melissa and her husband, Corey.

Now, Melissa grew up in this house

and had a miserable time here.

But she has a huge heart.

She moved her entire family back here

to take care of her 85-year-old grandfather, Gene.

This is her 16-year-old son, Nathan,

and this is Charlie, who's 6.

Now, he's the reason we're here.

Kid's having a rough time,

and Melissa is scared

his childhood's going to be ruined just like hers was.

So now that Amy knows a little bit about you guys,

I'll ask her describe her walk for us.

The first thing that I got was a deceased female.

She's white, and I got

that she was in her late 40s, early 50s.

I also got that she was living here

around 1980s or early 1990s.

She spent most of her time in the kitchen

and dining area, which is where she is still.

I saw her in a very bad state.

She was hysterically crying.

She was extremely depressed.

She's very stressed out.

She was screaming, "No, no, no, not my baby."

Now, Melissa lost her grandmother about 10 years ago?

Yeah. Well, you just described her, basically.

You told me you saw your grandmother's apparition

- in the kitchen. - Yeah.

And I could tell you exactly what she was wearing.

And we just looked at each other.

It scared me.

So, why are you afraid of her?

She was a strict woman.

She tried to teach me how to be a lady.

And, you know, she had a lot of kids.

And she lost her youngest child here.

Okay. You should know about Melissa's uncle, Jerry.

He died in the garage when he was 4 years old.

On August 30, 1967, Jerry was playing with another kid

in the neighborhood who was 3 years old,

and they walked into a fridge that was in the garage.

The door locked on them, and they suffocated.

I got a photo of Jerry. He was a really cute kid, too.

Now, I actually have a picture of Melissa's grandmother.

Is it possible this is who you saw?

Yeah. I'm sorry.

Do you think she ever got over Jerry passing?

No.

It's kind of hard to think that, you know, she hasn't moved past.

That's what's hard for me right now to accept.

Okay. So what else?

So there's two other dead people who are very present,

and I'm concerned about them.

The first individual has mental disorders, mental illness.

He's definitely nuts.

I do think that he would affect the living.

I thought maybe some of you would hear him,

because he does get a little worked up,

and so he'll start banging things, throwing things.

I was attacked in the kitchen.

There was a Tupperware on top of the fridge,

and it flew across the counter

and hit me with force in the side of the head.

- Wow. - When I spoke to Charlie,

he told me that he hears a lot of things banging,

scratching noises.

- He doesn't sleep downstairs.

- Okay. - He hasn't for over a year.

He sleeps with us.

Okay.

The other thing that unnerved me

was that he does watch,

and he stares, and he'll get right in your face

and do this.

Being subjected to him consistently

can make you feel like you're going insane.

Actually, that's part of the reason why I called you guys.

Sometimes I can't go to sleep

because I feel like somebody's pacing on my side of the bed,

back and forth, back and forth,

and that he leans over and is right in my face.

I've spent whole nights just crying

because it feels so intrusive.

Any idea who this guy might have been when he was alive?

What I was able to get from him was that he had been

in and out of mental institutions,

and I was getting the 1940s, 1950s with him,

and he was showing me

that he's on a beach. He's looking out.

There's a young, attractive woman.

It was 1978.

I believe he killed her.

Wow. It's interesting, 'cause the stuff you're talking about

reminds me of a serial killer that terrorized the city.

Now, the guy's name is Clyde Carl Wilkerson.

This kid was bad news from the start.

Wilkerson was arrested for arson at the age of 6.

Then he was in and out of mental hospitals

starting at the age of 8.

Holy...

Now, you mentioned mental institutions

in the '40s and '50s.

Now, Wilkerson was born in '38,

so the time frame matches.

Unfortunately, in the '60s, he started killing.

In 1965, he beat, strangled, and raped a 19-year-old girl

a couple of miles from here

while her 2-year-old son slept in the other room.

A few weeks later, this sick bastard

breaks into an older couple's house

less than a mile from here.

He beats the man to death.

Then he raped and badly beat his wife, leaving her for dead.

She survived. Barely, though.

She was never right again and couldn't identify him.

Now, in 1975, he struck again.

Now, this time, his victim was a 28-year-old student

named Geraldine Martin.

He wound up raping and murdering her, too.

This guy may have killed more, but that's all they got him on.

Now, he wasn't arrested until 2002.

Holy...

I got a great mug shot array of him

from when he was younger to when he was older.

Now, what do you think? Is this who you might have seen?

Yes.

This just blows my -- my mind.

And when did he die?

Last year.

Everything started happening about a year ago here,

like, real bad.

That makes me totally disgusted.

I don't want this guy around my kid.

I agree.

The next guy that I encountered, I felt, was the bigger threat.

The way he showed himself was extremely disturbing.

He looked like a skeleton, and it looked like

he had burns all over his body.

And this skeleton guy

was not a good person in life.

He said that he did kill people.

Because of how he looked,

I believe he had a really gruesome death,

and I think the thing that killed him

- was actually a broken neck. - I have history that I really

don't think has anything to do with who she's talking about,

but I think it's something you guys should know about.

Now, the day after the attacks on Pearl Harbor,

the military came in and enforced eminent domain

and took over all the property,

and then they created two military bases here.

One camp was La Mesa.

The other one was right next to your old property line,

and that's called Gillespie Field now.

According to the expert I talked to,

there have been 13 separate accidents there

that killed 24 people.

One stood to me was this one.

It was an F-14 in 1988 that malfunctioned

and began spinning out of control.

When the two pilots ejected from the airplane,

one of them broke his neck upon impact.

Any chance one of these deaths

could have been the skeleton guy you saw?

No. Mnh-mnh.

Okay. So now we have an idea who it's not.

So why is this skeleton guy such a big threat?

When I first got here, he told me

that he causes pain and death.

He did get physical with me a couple of times,

and I do believe that he's very capable

of becoming physical with living people.

One of the things that I saw and felt this skeleton guy does

is, like, slapping and pushing

and hitting people.

The other thing I saw was he was wrapping his hands

around the bottom of the feet and the ankles

and pulling them out of bed.

Tell Amy what happened.

I was laying there, and I got a grab on my ankle,

a real tight grab.

- Really? - And it scared me to death.

Well, you even wake up with scratches and bruises.

- Yeah. - Okay.

Lookit. Here's one of the scratches she took pictures of.

Wow.

That's, like, nothing.

And matter of fact, Charlie wakes up

with bruises on him.

Yeah, I know.

Okay. So, the other thing that I saw him doing

was possessing a living male here.

He can enter the body and take over

and completely change his personality,

and that would be becoming angry and violent.

I go from zero to angry in 0.5 seconds.

Do you notice, when he does that, any physical changes?

Yes. If we're fighting,

he has this specific face where he looks at me,

almost like a disgust, the way he squints his eyes.

The other thing that I saw him doing was,

we went into the little room,

- the little blue room. - Yep, yep.

And that blue room's Charlie's room, right?

It's the one he won't sleep in.

And what I saw was very disturbing.

I did have a sketch done of what I saw happening in there.

Jesus.

I don't even want to show it to them.

My gosh.

I want to say that it's a surprising picture,

but the way he thrashes around at night.

He's always saying, "No. Stop. Get away."

So what's he doing in this picture?

He was trying to smother him.

He was covering his mouth, pinching his nose.

Obviously, he's trying to kill your child.

I did get that sometimes the kid would wake up

and would actually see him in his room,

and he was crying, and it scares him.

That's just...disgusting. That pisses me off to no end.

I can't -- I mean --

Yeah. I don't even have any words.

I'm extremely, extremely worried,

because this guy wants death,

and he wants to be able to jump the living male here

and have basically, you know,

a murder-suicide kind of situation.

He showed me where he enters you.

He said it's on your right side right here.

I get rib pain on that side all the time.

I don't even know what to say to you guys.

This is bad.

This is -- It is. Bad.

Would I be able to just, like, have just maybe

- a minute or two? - Yeah.

Now, Melissa, you called us in

because you wanted us to save your son.

But as it turns out, your entire family is in danger.

And I know taking care of your grandfather

means everything to you, but I don't know how

you're going to be able to do that here safely.

For that answer, I'm going to turn it over to Amy.

So, I'm very worried.

My suggestion is that you leave as soon as possible.

You guys need to put a lot of distance

between here and where you go.

But before entering a new place of residence,

you need to have a male

who is a psychic and a reiki master,

because this skeleton guy,

he showed me that he has entered you on several occasions.

There could be cords there.

And the psychic reiki master

will be doing a cord removal and cutting.

This can be painful,

but you'll feel so much better after it's done.

Now, what about Charlie?

Other than obviously removing him from this location,

he is clear right now.

Now, what about Melissa? Does she have to do anything, or --

No. Mnh-mnh.

What are the chances Gene's going to come with you,

your grandfather?

I don't think they're very high.

I'll try to get him to come with us, but...

I don't know that he's going to want to go.

You said something to me the other day

that I thought about for a long time.

He's 85, and he has lived his life,

and my son hasn't, so...

So, the main thing is, you called us in for Charlie.

So my question to you is, if they move

and they do everything you tell them to do,

this kid should have a normal life, Charlie?

Yes, as long as y'all do

everything I'm telling you to do.

I had already made up my mind

if it was going to be something like this

- that we were going to leave. - Absolutely. We're gone.

The kids come first,

and they got to have a normal childhood.

The only way this family can remain safe

is to move as far away as possible.

They also need to contact a psychic reiki master

to break Corey's negative attachments.

If they do that, they can leave the skeleton man behind

and begin a peaceful life somewhere else.

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