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Something's wrong here.
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They want this person gone.
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It's turned, literally,
into hell.
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I don't know what to do.
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She causes people to do
bad things.
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I'm afraid that I'm slowly
losing control of everything.
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Nightmares,
terrible nightmares.
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She hunts them.
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This seems like a possession.
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My name is Amy Allan.
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Everything was built on blood.
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I see dead people.
Very disturbing.
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I speak to dead people.
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There's victims around him.
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Ow.
And they speak to me.
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Her voice sounds like death.
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But there's only one way to know
if my findings are real.
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The living don't
stand a chance here.
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I rely on my partner.
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I'm Steve Di Schiavi.
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I'm a retired New York City
homicide detective.
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You could have got killed.
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I know every person,
every house has secrets.
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This is coming
straight from hell.
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It's my job to reveal them.
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Your mom was murdered
right here in this room. Yes, she was.
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But Steve and I
never speak...
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We never communicate
during an investigation.
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...until the very end.
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This was just the beginning.
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When we uncover if it's safe
for you to stay...
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Oh, my god.
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Or time to get out.
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They're very bad.
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This house is
trying to kill me.
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I'm in Sinclairville, New York.
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It's about an hour southwest
of Buffalo.
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Now this place is tiny,
588 people.
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I got called in by a woman named
Jacqui, who is a mother of two.
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Now, she bought the home
thinking it would be
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a safe place to raise her kids.
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Problem is,
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activity in the house is
terrorizing everyone,
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and she says it's
destroying her marriage.
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Before Amy arrives,
I clear the house
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of any leading information.
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Photographs
can influence her findings,
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so it's important I cover
or remove them all.
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When I'm finished,
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the location will be ready
for tonight's walk.
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I just saw something
really strange.
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This thing I called the drip.
It was odd looking.
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It's not a person.
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The dead were
very unnerved by it,
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and they all
ran away from it.
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It came up to me, and I looked,
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and I could see only
my reflection in its face,
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and it makes you focus
on the darkest truths
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because, basically,
you face it and work through it,
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or you go crazy.
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So, Jacqui, when we talked
on the phone,
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you sounded pretty upset about
things that were happening here.
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Yeah.
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It has really turned
into a real nightmare,
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and I don't know
what to do.
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I've tried everything.
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I can't get rid
of whatever's here.
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So who exactly lives
in the house?
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That's my husband, Tim,
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my son, Bradley, who is 8,
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and my daughter, Pheobie,
who is 6.
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Give me an idea of what
you're going through here.
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Things from noises,
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nightmares,
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mood swings,
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but the worst of it is
it's really changed my husband.
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So what are
the changes with him?
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Goes to work, comes home,
that's it.
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Quit spending time with me.
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Quit spending time
with his kids.
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It makes me feel like he's
just here out of obligation.
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How do you know
this is paranormal
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and not just
husband-wife stuff?
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You don't go from having
one or two fights every 6 months
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to a fight every other day.
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Now, there was nothing that was
life-changing with you guys
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after you moved here?
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Since we've moved in here that
my health started to decline,
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and he says,
"My head is telling me
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that I don't love you
any more."
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Have you confronted Tim
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and said, "What the hell
is wrong with you?
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Do you really mean
what you're saying?"
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Yeah, I have.
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His only explanation is is
it's like a voice in his head
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just telling him, "You don't
love your wife any more."
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How's a wife supposed
to take that?
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And then I shut
all of my emotions off
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because if I reacted to that,
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I wasn't going to be able
to help him.
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When you guys are away
from the house, how is it?
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Good. We went on vacation.
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We're all sleeping.
We're all happy.
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My husband held my hand for
the first time in almost a year.
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Well, why don't you just get
the hell out of here, move?
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I don't have any money
to go anywhere.
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This was supposed to be
our dream home,
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our home to grow old in.
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It's turned, literally,
into hell.
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Does not feel good up here.
No, no, no, no.
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This is a bad area.
This whole upstairs is no good.
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There is a lot in here going in
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with the living person
in this particular room.
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This room is crazy.
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The drip, it's coming in,
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and what it's doing
is making this person
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relive horrible things.
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The person's not dealing
with this well.
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Can you explain how
it got here?
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It's attracted
to the living person
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that sleeps in this bed.
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They're -- Also,
they're having problems.
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They're like,
they don't like their life.
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They're unsettled.
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Can you tell much
about this living person?
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I'd assume it was a female.
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They're miserable.
They're depressed.
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They're emotionally unstable,
almost like PTSD episodes.
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Okay, Jacqui, so what's
going on in here?
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Some of our items
just randomly disappear
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and then reappear again.
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I set my keys down
on the coffee table one day.
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I turned to pick them back up,
and they weren't there.
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Probably about 40 minutes
after looking,
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they showed back up
where I had left them.
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Anybody else home?
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My kids are outside.
My husband was outside.
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It freaked me out.
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Okay. Anything else?
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One night, my husband
and I are laying in bed,
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and my daughter's stereo
turned on all by itself.
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- Pheobie didn't do it?
- No. She wasn't even here.
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I'm seeing a teenage boy.
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He's dead.
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He's bad, does bad things
in here to the living people.
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He likes to make things loud,
so I wouldn't be surprised
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if TVs go up really loud,
radios go up really loud.
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He likes that
because it freaks them out,
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you know, gets their attention.
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He is mad, goes into as many
homes as possible and rages.
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He's a little klepto,
so things are moving.
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The boy is the worst.
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This is not good.
This is not good.
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Well, you've had some
experiences downstairs.
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You have any up here?
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Oh, yeah, especially in
my husband and I's bedroom.
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Okay. Okay, what's going on?
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My son and I have a lot
of really bad nightmares,
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like one I had
a few weeks ago --
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dogs running
out of the woods.
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I turned to scream,
and I couldn't.
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I tried, and it was like
I had no voice.
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- How the hell are you sleeping?
- I'm not.
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Okay. Anything else?
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Yeah. I was over in
the laundry room.
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I turned to walk out
with a laundry basket,
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felt like I had been shoved
and broke my nose.
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Can you demonstrate on me
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how hard you might have
gotten pushed?
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Like that.
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You really would have flying.
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- Yeah.
- What do you think happened?
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Couldn't have been anything else
than a ghost that done it
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or something not natural.
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Anything else
like that happen?
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I wake up quite frequently
with bruises on my legs.
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What kind of bruises
are we talking about?
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They average in size,
that of child's fingers
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to about the size
of a doughnut.
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And you're sure you're not
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bruising yourself
with these nightmares?
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No. The ones on my arm...
Let me see your hand.
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Oh.
I see what you're saying.
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- Grab you like that?
- Just like that.
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- Well, you couldn't do that.
- No.
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Anybody else getting
attacked like that?
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My daughter.
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She said it was this big,
huge snake in her dream.
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She kept rubbing her neck,
and when I looked,
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she had bite marks
on her neck.
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I actually have a picture
of them.
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Oh, jeez.
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Is there something she could
have banged her neck against
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while she was sleeping,
having a nightmare?
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No. Unh-unh.
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All that is in her bedroom
is her bed and her dresser.
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At the time,
we had toys downstairs.
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Well, Jacqui, let me
ask you a question.
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What are you hoping this whole
investigation does for you?
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I hope it gives me
my family back.
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I want my husband to be
who he used to be,
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man I fell in love with.
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Nobody wants to feel alone.
It's crushing, sometimes.
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The teenage boy there
at the end of the bed,
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he likes to physically affect
his surroundings,
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like lifting
and dropping the bed.
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Feet or arms, he's able to do
that, too, lift it, drop it.
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The person brought
that thing, the drip.
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Ew.
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Yeah, 'cause you find that
scary, I guess.
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So he hates whoever's
here in this space.
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They want this person gone.
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So, Tim, I was talking
to your wife, Jacqui,
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and she was saying
how your personality
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has changed drastically
since you moved here.
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- Yes.
- Do you agree with that?
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-100%.
- You do?
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Before we moved here,
I was always happy, always,
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you know, wanting to go out
and help people and do things
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and just spend time
with my family.
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Since we moved here,
everything's changed.
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Now, she says you're
hearing voices
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saying you don't love her
any more.
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Yes. The pain in her eyes
hearing me say,
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"I got this voice
in my head
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telling me that
I don't love you,"
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was the hardest thing
I ever went through in my life.
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All right.
So man to man,
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is it [bleep] you're trying to
get out of the marriage or what?
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No. I love my wife,
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and I want to spend
the rest of my life with her.
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What does this voice
sound like?
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It's a man's voice.
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- How often are you hearing it?
- Every day.
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When did the voices start?
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They started last year.
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Did anything change
or happen
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that you could recall
triggering the voices?
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My wife had a surgery,
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and they thought
she had had a heart attack.
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After that surgery,
I heard the voices.
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Anything else
going on with you?
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Health issues.
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Ever since we moved in here,
I've been in the emergency room
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four to six times
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with the feeling
of having a heart attack.
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What'd they say
was the problem?
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They can't find anything.
They go in.
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They hook me up
to all the machines,
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00:11:02,849 --> 00:11:04,582
and they tell me
everything looks good.
251
00:11:04,584 --> 00:11:05,783
Describe how you're feeling
252
00:11:05,785 --> 00:11:07,018
before you need
to go to the hospital.
253
00:11:07,020 --> 00:11:09,153
It all starts with pressure
in my chest,
254
00:11:09,155 --> 00:11:10,755
and then I'll have
a tingly sensation
255
00:11:10,757 --> 00:11:12,924
that goes all the way
down my left arm.
256
00:11:12,926 --> 00:11:15,226
Now I know this feeling.
It's a really scary feeling.
257
00:11:15,228 --> 00:11:16,594
It is.
258
00:11:16,596 --> 00:11:17,895
You really do think
you're having a heart attack.
259
00:11:17,897 --> 00:11:20,264
So, I mean, I don't know
how paranormal that is.
260
00:11:20,266 --> 00:11:22,433
Right.
Because I suffer from the same thing.
261
00:11:22,435 --> 00:11:24,235
But what do you think
is in the house?
262
00:11:24,237 --> 00:11:25,970
I mean, what do you think
is going on here?
263
00:11:25,972 --> 00:11:28,406
It's something
definitely evil.
264
00:11:28,408 --> 00:11:29,574
I don't want to go
through my life
265
00:11:29,576 --> 00:11:31,742
without my wife
and my kids.
266
00:11:31,744 --> 00:11:34,712
I worry about that every day
since everything started,
267
00:11:34,714 --> 00:11:37,949
and I'm afraid that I'm slowly
losing control of everything.
268
00:11:41,087 --> 00:11:44,755
I am seeing a woman.
269
00:11:44,757 --> 00:11:50,495
She said that she was
burned as a witch in 1692.
270
00:11:50,497 --> 00:11:55,366
The left side of her is burnt,
and the right side is normal.
271
00:11:55,368 --> 00:11:58,536
She is solid and very powerful.
272
00:11:58,538 --> 00:12:02,840
She is attached to the land,
and she has to hunt.
273
00:12:02,842 --> 00:12:07,078
She makes me feel sad and angry.
274
00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:09,747
And I see the half-burnt chick.
275
00:12:09,749 --> 00:12:12,683
The witch is making
the person sick --
276
00:12:12,685 --> 00:12:15,152
nausea, fevers,
277
00:12:15,154 --> 00:12:18,723
hot in their mouth,
in their throat,
278
00:12:18,725 --> 00:12:21,158
in their chest, like a fever,
279
00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:23,427
but it's on the inside
of your body.
280
00:12:30,436 --> 00:12:32,069
So, Pheobie,
how old are you?
281
00:12:32,071 --> 00:12:34,305
-6.
-6. Okay.
282
00:12:34,307 --> 00:12:36,707
Mommy and Daddy told me
about the stuff
283
00:12:36,709 --> 00:12:37,975
that they're going through.
284
00:12:37,977 --> 00:12:39,477
What about you?
285
00:12:45,051 --> 00:12:47,351
Okay. So you got kidnapped
in your dream?
286
00:12:47,353 --> 00:12:48,519
Mm-hmm.
287
00:12:48,521 --> 00:12:49,921
Scares me a lot.
288
00:12:49,923 --> 00:12:52,590
Yeah.
That would scare me, too.
289
00:12:52,592 --> 00:12:55,126
- Do you want to stay here?
- No.
290
00:12:55,128 --> 00:12:57,261
I want to go
to a different house.
291
00:12:57,263 --> 00:12:59,230
But if we could stop
all the nightmares
292
00:12:59,232 --> 00:13:00,398
and all the stuff
you're seeing,
293
00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:02,433
would you want to stay
in the house?
294
00:13:02,435 --> 00:13:03,768
Okay.
295
00:13:03,770 --> 00:13:06,237
If they don't go away,
I'll leave the house.
296
00:13:09,609 --> 00:13:12,109
Nightmares,
terrible nightmares.
297
00:13:12,111 --> 00:13:14,412
The witch, she looms.
298
00:13:14,414 --> 00:13:16,847
That's when
the person freaks out.
299
00:13:16,849 --> 00:13:18,916
The person's waking up,
and here is this old lady
300
00:13:18,918 --> 00:13:22,386
right over the person's face.
301
00:13:22,388 --> 00:13:24,889
So people are seeing
this witch when they're awake?
302
00:13:24,891 --> 00:13:26,457
Yes.
303
00:13:26,459 --> 00:13:28,793
They might think they're having
nightmares, but they're not.
304
00:13:28,795 --> 00:13:30,094
They're seeing this
when they're awake.
305
00:13:36,569 --> 00:13:38,169
So, Bradley,
how old are you?
306
00:13:38,171 --> 00:13:39,437
8.
307
00:13:39,439 --> 00:13:40,705
Are you okay being
in your room alone?
308
00:13:40,707 --> 00:13:42,473
No. Not at all.
309
00:13:42,475 --> 00:13:45,042
This is the worst room.
310
00:13:45,044 --> 00:13:49,213
Sometimes, I even have
my sister sleep on the floor.
311
00:13:49,215 --> 00:13:52,783
So what kind of the things
are you experiencing?
312
00:13:52,785 --> 00:13:56,187
I hear voices every day.
313
00:13:56,189 --> 00:13:58,289
Did it sound like
kids or adults?
314
00:13:58,291 --> 00:13:59,890
It sounds like
all of them.
315
00:13:59,892 --> 00:14:01,993
Where are these voices
coming from?
316
00:14:01,995 --> 00:14:03,561
Over there.
317
00:14:03,563 --> 00:14:05,896
- In this little room here?
- Yes.
318
00:14:05,898 --> 00:14:07,431
Were they talking to you,
or you just heard them?
319
00:14:07,433 --> 00:14:09,300
They were talking to me
because I'm the only one
320
00:14:09,302 --> 00:14:11,335
that can hear 'em.
321
00:14:11,337 --> 00:14:13,404
Anything else that
you're experiencing?
322
00:14:13,406 --> 00:14:17,575
I see a girl right where
the stairs are,
323
00:14:17,577 --> 00:14:19,844
standing there,
staring at me.
324
00:14:19,846 --> 00:14:21,512
She's in a dress,
325
00:14:21,514 --> 00:14:24,415
long dress,
down to her feet,
326
00:14:24,417 --> 00:14:26,450
about same age as me.
327
00:14:26,452 --> 00:14:28,519
How often do you see
this little girl?
328
00:14:28,521 --> 00:14:30,287
Three or four times a week.
329
00:14:30,289 --> 00:14:32,323
Do you ever try
to talk to her?
330
00:14:32,325 --> 00:14:35,660
No, because I usually
don't talk to people
331
00:14:35,662 --> 00:14:39,196
unless they
say something first.
332
00:14:39,198 --> 00:14:40,698
Does she scare you?
333
00:14:40,700 --> 00:14:43,668
Yes. It's the creepiest thing
I've seen.
334
00:14:43,670 --> 00:14:45,036
Buddy, let me
ask you a question.
335
00:14:45,038 --> 00:14:46,203
Do you want to stay here,
or do you want to move away?
336
00:14:46,205 --> 00:14:47,672
I want to move.
337
00:14:47,674 --> 00:14:49,573
I really like this house,
338
00:14:49,575 --> 00:14:52,443
but with all this,
I can't take it.
339
00:14:55,281 --> 00:14:59,583
The witch, I think that
they've seen her.
340
00:14:59,585 --> 00:15:01,852
I see her young.
341
00:15:01,854 --> 00:15:06,490
She said that she has
to hunt living people.
342
00:15:07,794 --> 00:15:11,996
She hunts people that
would remind her
343
00:15:11,998 --> 00:15:15,433
of the people
that persecuted her --
344
00:15:15,435 --> 00:15:21,038
liars, gossips,
and religious fanatics.
345
00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:22,573
She hunts them
346
00:15:22,575 --> 00:15:25,943
and then makes
their life miserable.
347
00:15:25,945 --> 00:15:27,278
How?
348
00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:30,681
I think that she causes people
to do bad things.
349
00:15:30,683 --> 00:15:33,951
They get more torture.
350
00:15:33,953 --> 00:15:37,955
It's fun for her to torture
those kinds of people.
351
00:15:51,012 --> 00:15:52,878
You know,
Sinclairville's a tiny town,
352
00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:55,147
so the second I called
the historian types,
353
00:15:55,149 --> 00:15:57,950
they knew all about
Jacqui and Tim's property.
354
00:15:57,952 --> 00:15:59,451
I'm meeting a genealogist
who says
355
00:15:59,453 --> 00:16:00,986
a family that
used to live there
356
00:16:00,988 --> 00:16:04,023
had nothing but heartbreak
before and after they moved in.
357
00:16:09,063 --> 00:16:11,230
You mentioned on the phone
this Passinger family...
358
00:16:11,232 --> 00:16:12,998
Mm-hmm.
...had a lot of troubles and heartache.
359
00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:14,500
What do you mean?
360
00:16:14,502 --> 00:16:18,937
They owned the property you're
investigating from 1956 to 1973,
361
00:16:18,939 --> 00:16:22,007
and their son, Andrew,
he was quite the troublemaker.
362
00:16:22,009 --> 00:16:23,609
So what kind of trouble
are we talking about?
363
00:16:23,611 --> 00:16:25,911
About 1940, he's 18.
364
00:16:25,913 --> 00:16:27,680
He's with another friend
who is 19,
365
00:16:27,682 --> 00:16:29,448
and they're cruising
around in a car,
366
00:16:29,450 --> 00:16:30,783
and they come upon a girl,
367
00:16:30,785 --> 00:16:33,085
and he's catcalling her,
368
00:16:33,087 --> 00:16:34,553
trying to get her
to get into the car,
369
00:16:34,555 --> 00:16:36,522
and she refuses
and keeps walking,
370
00:16:36,524 --> 00:16:38,023
so he gets mad.
371
00:16:38,025 --> 00:16:39,291
They stop the car.
372
00:16:39,293 --> 00:16:41,093
He jumps out and tries
to force her into the car.
373
00:16:41,095 --> 00:16:42,328
He's trying
to kidnap this girl.
374
00:16:42,330 --> 00:16:44,396
- He's a wild kid.
- Yeah.
375
00:16:44,398 --> 00:16:48,100
He gets arrested,
spends 6 months in jail.
376
00:16:48,102 --> 00:16:50,436
It made headlines
in the local paper.
377
00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:54,440
Okay.
So he does 6 months.
378
00:16:54,442 --> 00:16:55,841
Does he straighten out?
379
00:16:55,843 --> 00:16:57,743
Not really.
380
00:16:57,745 --> 00:17:01,680
Actually, a couple years later,
1942, he's out again
381
00:17:01,682 --> 00:17:04,450
riding around
with his friend in a car,
382
00:17:04,452 --> 00:17:07,653
and he hit and kills
a 70-year-old man
383
00:17:07,655 --> 00:17:09,555
and gets no jail time
for that.
384
00:17:09,557 --> 00:17:12,925
So this kid kills a guy,
doesn't do any jail time.
385
00:17:12,927 --> 00:17:14,860
- Right.
- And what happens next?
386
00:17:14,862 --> 00:17:17,896
November 14th of 1942,
he marries a young lady
387
00:17:17,898 --> 00:17:20,199
who's only just turned 15,
388
00:17:20,201 --> 00:17:21,500
Elaine Diers.
389
00:17:21,502 --> 00:17:24,903
15? What happens next
with this kid?
390
00:17:24,905 --> 00:17:28,006
They have three children,
but tragedy follows him,
391
00:17:28,008 --> 00:17:30,209
and Elaine falls ill,
392
00:17:30,211 --> 00:17:32,077
and she's ill
for a number of years,
393
00:17:32,079 --> 00:17:36,982
and then she dies in 1956
at the age of 28.
394
00:17:36,984 --> 00:17:38,317
Do we know
what she died of?
395
00:17:38,319 --> 00:17:40,319
No. Actually,
this is her obituary,
396
00:17:40,321 --> 00:17:43,155
and it doesn't state
what she died of.
397
00:17:43,157 --> 00:17:44,256
Wow. She was young, huh?
398
00:17:44,258 --> 00:17:45,324
- Yeah.
- All right.
399
00:17:45,326 --> 00:17:46,658
So how did he take
the death of her?
400
00:17:46,660 --> 00:17:50,162
He's devastated, heartbroken,
and by this time,
401
00:17:50,164 --> 00:17:51,630
his parents are living
on the property
402
00:17:51,632 --> 00:17:53,031
that you're investigating.
403
00:17:53,033 --> 00:17:56,001
He moves in with
all three of the kids.
404
00:17:56,003 --> 00:17:57,636
Right. So how's things
work out for him?
405
00:17:57,638 --> 00:17:58,871
Not very well.
406
00:17:58,873 --> 00:18:02,141
Andrew himself, actually
a year later on Halloween,
407
00:18:02,143 --> 00:18:08,180
he passes away at the age of 41
from rectal cancer.
408
00:18:08,182 --> 00:18:11,750
That leaves his mother to raise
the three children in the house
409
00:18:11,752 --> 00:18:14,987
until they are old enough
to get married and move away.
410
00:18:14,989 --> 00:18:17,523
Okay. So his wife dies young.
He dies young.
411
00:18:17,525 --> 00:18:18,724
You weren't kidding when
you said they had trouble
412
00:18:18,726 --> 00:18:20,058
before and after.
Right.
413
00:18:20,060 --> 00:18:21,960
Tragedy all the way around.
414
00:18:28,402 --> 00:18:31,003
There's, like,
a dead family.
415
00:18:31,005 --> 00:18:32,638
I'm seeing the mother.
416
00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:34,807
She has three kids,
417
00:18:34,809 --> 00:18:38,010
but they were here
a long time ago,
418
00:18:38,012 --> 00:18:40,145
and then somehow
they all [bleep] died,
419
00:18:40,147 --> 00:18:43,816
I guess, close to the same time?
420
00:18:43,818 --> 00:18:47,586
I'm getting boom, boom, boom.
421
00:18:47,588 --> 00:18:50,689
It wasn't good. I know that.
422
00:18:50,691 --> 00:18:53,459
The dead mom,
she's just nervous.
423
00:18:53,461 --> 00:18:55,260
She doesn't trust people.
424
00:18:55,262 --> 00:18:57,095
Um...
425
00:18:57,097 --> 00:18:59,932
She was married
since she was 14.
426
00:18:59,934 --> 00:19:01,633
She died of an illness.
427
00:19:01,635 --> 00:19:04,470
She's young, younger than
I thought she'd be.
428
00:19:04,472 --> 00:19:05,637
How old?
429
00:19:05,639 --> 00:19:07,940
I hear 28,
but then I hear 29.
430
00:19:07,942 --> 00:19:10,742
Right now, they're hiding
in the corner.
431
00:19:12,780 --> 00:19:15,147
Thing is, I don't know
who they're hiding from.
432
00:19:17,451 --> 00:19:19,751
So far, I've got
a family being torn apart
433
00:19:19,753 --> 00:19:21,620
by bizarre activity
on a property
434
00:19:21,622 --> 00:19:24,056
that has seen several
tragic deaths.
435
00:19:24,058 --> 00:19:26,158
But I want to know
if there's anything else.
436
00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:28,894
Searching for old records,
I find the Strong family,
437
00:19:28,896 --> 00:19:31,296
who used to own
my client's land.
438
00:19:31,298 --> 00:19:34,066
Turns out they had a direct
connection to a brutal murder
439
00:19:34,068 --> 00:19:35,701
that happened
less than a mile away
440
00:19:35,703 --> 00:19:37,536
from Tim and Jacqui's property.
441
00:19:39,540 --> 00:19:41,406
You know, I want to find out
what happened to this poor guy
442
00:19:41,408 --> 00:19:43,675
who got his skull bashed in
near Jacqui's house.
443
00:19:43,677 --> 00:19:45,911
Now I'm on my way
to meet a local sheriff
444
00:19:45,913 --> 00:19:48,847
who says this case
took a surprising turn.
445
00:19:56,590 --> 00:19:57,589
Sheriff, thanks
for meeting with me.
446
00:19:57,591 --> 00:19:59,091
I appreciate that.
447
00:19:59,093 --> 00:20:01,059
During my research,
I found out the Strong family
448
00:20:01,061 --> 00:20:04,763
that occupied my client's
property back in 1897
449
00:20:04,765 --> 00:20:07,432
somehow has a connection to this
homicide I had you look into.
450
00:20:07,434 --> 00:20:08,934
I mean, what were you
able to find out?
451
00:20:08,936 --> 00:20:11,670
There was a man by the name
of Axel Lawson.
452
00:20:11,672 --> 00:20:14,006
Mr. Lawson lived
with the Strong family,
453
00:20:14,008 --> 00:20:17,075
who owned the land
that your client lives on today.
454
00:20:17,077 --> 00:20:22,281
He was found murdered
on the 27th of May in 1897.
455
00:20:22,283 --> 00:20:25,484
He'd been beaten badly
with a blunt instrument.
456
00:20:25,486 --> 00:20:27,452
So what do we know
about the victim?
457
00:20:27,454 --> 00:20:29,521
He was 33 years old.
458
00:20:29,523 --> 00:20:32,691
He was a local produce peddler
who traveled
459
00:20:32,693 --> 00:20:37,729
between Sinclairville area
and Jamestown selling his goods.
460
00:20:37,731 --> 00:20:39,064
What's the crime scene like?
461
00:20:39,066 --> 00:20:41,900
This is a sketch that was in
one of the local newspapers,
462
00:20:41,902 --> 00:20:44,570
of the crime scene.
463
00:20:44,572 --> 00:20:47,039
It looked as though
a struggle had taken place.
464
00:20:47,041 --> 00:20:48,941
He had been beaten severely.
465
00:20:48,943 --> 00:20:52,110
They documented 17 pieces
of his skull
466
00:20:52,112 --> 00:20:54,313
that were collected
from the crime scene.
467
00:20:54,315 --> 00:20:56,315
Okay. A pretty brutal homicide,
then.
468
00:20:56,317 --> 00:20:57,849
It was.
469
00:20:57,851 --> 00:21:00,752
This is Axel Lawson's
death certificate.
470
00:21:02,790 --> 00:21:05,324
All right. So now we got
a dead body. Any suspects?
471
00:21:05,326 --> 00:21:07,759
Yes. There were
two solid suspects.
472
00:21:07,761 --> 00:21:10,062
One was a guy by the name
of Fred Page.
473
00:21:10,064 --> 00:21:11,630
- He was 50 years old.
- Okay.
474
00:21:11,632 --> 00:21:13,231
The other guy
was his son-in-law,
475
00:21:13,233 --> 00:21:15,801
Fred Romer, was 35.
476
00:21:15,803 --> 00:21:18,537
Why did they like
these guys for the homicide?
477
00:21:18,539 --> 00:21:21,306
After the murder,
Axel Lawson's watch
478
00:21:21,308 --> 00:21:25,444
was pawned by the two Freds
at a pawnshop in Fredonia.
479
00:21:25,446 --> 00:21:27,012
All right. So I got to assume,
with this much evidence,
480
00:21:27,014 --> 00:21:29,247
they make an arrest.
They did make an arrest.
481
00:21:29,249 --> 00:21:32,784
Is there a conviction?
482
00:21:32,786 --> 00:21:34,152
There's not.
483
00:21:34,154 --> 00:21:36,588
They were held for a short
period of time and released.
484
00:21:36,590 --> 00:21:37,956
You're kidding me.
485
00:21:37,958 --> 00:21:40,492
Apparently they felt there was
not evidence to convict.
486
00:21:40,494 --> 00:21:42,628
And they convicted
for a lot less back then.
487
00:21:42,630 --> 00:21:43,962
Oh, yeah.
488
00:21:43,964 --> 00:21:45,130
I wonder if these guys were
well-liked in the community
489
00:21:45,132 --> 00:21:46,198
and nobody wanted
to convict them,
490
00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:48,066
or if they had some ties.
491
00:21:48,068 --> 00:21:50,902
That is unknown.
It's an open, unsolved homicide.
492
00:21:55,442 --> 00:21:58,410
I feel like my stomach
just dropped.
493
00:22:00,247 --> 00:22:03,715
I'm seeing dead bodies,
494
00:22:03,717 --> 00:22:05,117
three of them.
495
00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:06,485
One is young.
496
00:22:06,487 --> 00:22:11,890
He got his head bashed in
with, like, a rock.
497
00:22:11,892 --> 00:22:13,659
And then there's another person,
498
00:22:13,661 --> 00:22:15,861
but I don't know
anything about them,
499
00:22:15,863 --> 00:22:19,164
and then there's the old man.
500
00:22:19,166 --> 00:22:21,433
I think he was a farmer.
501
00:22:21,435 --> 00:22:22,901
Do you know when this was?
502
00:22:22,903 --> 00:22:27,439
It could be anywhere
from 1910 to 1950s.
503
00:22:27,441 --> 00:22:30,042
And it was outside.
It was outside.
504
00:22:31,979 --> 00:22:35,981
Just seems like
all hell broke loose,
505
00:22:35,983 --> 00:22:40,452
and I'm just seeing
the kid's head get bashed in.
506
00:22:40,454 --> 00:22:43,221
The farmer, he's angry,
507
00:22:43,223 --> 00:22:46,291
very angry
because of what happened.
508
00:22:46,293 --> 00:22:49,661
He'll go into fits of rage.
509
00:22:49,663 --> 00:22:54,633
He just keeps saying,
"It was a very...bad...day."
510
00:23:00,708 --> 00:23:02,074
If you need us to investigate
511
00:23:02,076 --> 00:23:03,809
unexplained activity
in your home,
512
00:23:03,811 --> 00:23:06,812
go to the "Dead Files" page
at travelchannel.com.
513
00:23:06,814 --> 00:23:08,647
Click on "Help me, Dead Files!"
to submit your story,
514
00:23:08,649 --> 00:23:09,915
and we'll help if we can.
515
00:23:17,934 --> 00:23:20,701
So I just got a call
from a local anthropologist,
516
00:23:20,703 --> 00:23:23,237
and she says there was
a Native American grave site
517
00:23:23,239 --> 00:23:26,340
just a couple of thousand feet
from Jacqui and Tim's house.
518
00:23:26,342 --> 00:23:28,275
Now, I don't think they know
anything about it
519
00:23:28,277 --> 00:23:30,377
and that's probably because,
according to her,
520
00:23:30,379 --> 00:23:32,713
those bodies got dug up
and moved.
521
00:23:41,591 --> 00:23:43,090
Michelle, it's good
to see you again.
522
00:23:43,092 --> 00:23:46,093
So this Native American burial
site near my client's property,
523
00:23:46,095 --> 00:23:47,561
what can you tell me
about it?
524
00:23:47,563 --> 00:23:52,800
It as a circular mound site
that encompassed about 3 acres.
525
00:23:52,802 --> 00:23:54,502
That's pretty big, right,
for a burial site?
526
00:23:54,504 --> 00:23:56,303
- Yes.
- Who was buried there?
527
00:23:56,305 --> 00:23:58,772
Well, some anthropologists
believe it may have been
528
00:23:58,774 --> 00:24:03,077
the Erie Indians that were here
in the 1600s.
529
00:24:03,079 --> 00:24:06,013
Okay. You mentioned on the phone
that these bodies got dug up.
530
00:24:06,015 --> 00:24:07,381
What can you tell me
about it?
531
00:24:07,383 --> 00:24:09,350
People recognized the fact
that it was a mound,
532
00:24:09,352 --> 00:24:11,519
that it wasn't
a natural landscape,
533
00:24:11,521 --> 00:24:13,988
and so early in the 1800s,
534
00:24:13,990 --> 00:24:16,457
folks who were settling here
were curious... Okay.
535
00:24:16,459 --> 00:24:19,426
...and excavated parts
of the site,
536
00:24:19,428 --> 00:24:21,395
and in 1825,
537
00:24:21,397 --> 00:24:24,131
50 human remains
were removed from the mound,
538
00:24:24,133 --> 00:24:25,566
and about 30 years later,
539
00:24:25,568 --> 00:24:27,935
another 25 human skeletons
were removed.
540
00:24:27,937 --> 00:24:29,837
What did they do with
the bones?
541
00:24:29,839 --> 00:24:32,573
Some were sent to museums
across New York state,
542
00:24:32,575 --> 00:24:34,542
and some were
displayed locally,
543
00:24:34,544 --> 00:24:39,547
and I have a photograph
of one of the local displays
544
00:24:39,549 --> 00:24:42,516
of some of those human remains
that were found.
545
00:24:44,120 --> 00:24:46,453
The Native Americans
think this is disrespectful?
546
00:24:46,455 --> 00:24:47,655
Absolutely.
547
00:24:54,030 --> 00:24:58,866
There's something wrong
with the land here.
548
00:24:58,868 --> 00:25:00,301
Everything's wrong.
549
00:25:01,837 --> 00:25:03,637
There's too much death,
550
00:25:03,639 --> 00:25:07,474
and there's too many
weird deaths.
551
00:25:10,046 --> 00:25:13,581
I wish I could figure out
what's going on here.
552
00:25:13,583 --> 00:25:18,185
There's something here keeping
the dead people here trapped.
553
00:25:18,187 --> 00:25:22,189
Why aren't the dead
that are dying leave,
554
00:25:22,191 --> 00:25:26,527
and why...
Like, I'm just confused.
555
00:25:26,529 --> 00:25:29,230
We think this could be
the Erie tribe.
556
00:25:29,232 --> 00:25:30,664
What do we know
about them?
557
00:25:30,666 --> 00:25:35,169
Well, the Erie occupied this
entire area through the 1600s.
558
00:25:35,171 --> 00:25:36,370
Whatever happened to them?
559
00:25:36,372 --> 00:25:41,041
They were engaged
in a very long-running war
560
00:25:41,043 --> 00:25:42,476
with the Iroquois.
561
00:25:42,478 --> 00:25:45,546
The Erie were
really soundly defeated.
562
00:25:45,548 --> 00:25:46,981
How violent did it get?
563
00:25:46,983 --> 00:25:51,719
The Iroquois consistently
attacked Erie villages.
564
00:25:51,721 --> 00:25:52,886
They burned them.
565
00:25:52,888 --> 00:25:55,356
They slaughtered men,
women, and children.
566
00:25:55,358 --> 00:25:58,926
So by 1680, the Eries
had been forced
567
00:25:58,928 --> 00:26:01,262
from western New York
completely.
568
00:26:01,264 --> 00:26:05,633
The Iroquois pretty much did
wholesale slaughter.
569
00:26:08,971 --> 00:26:10,604
So can you talk more about
570
00:26:10,606 --> 00:26:12,373
what's going on
with the land here?
571
00:26:12,375 --> 00:26:17,378
It's a possibility that it has
to do with the witch.
572
00:26:17,380 --> 00:26:21,115
I'm thinking that she has
a lot to do
573
00:26:21,117 --> 00:26:24,518
with the land being tainted.
Hmm, okay.
574
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:26,453
She's doing something
575
00:26:26,455 --> 00:26:30,858
to prevent people from moving on
576
00:26:30,860 --> 00:26:35,596
or is causing bad things
to happen in the first place.
577
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:39,533
How would people that spend
a lot of time on this land
578
00:26:39,535 --> 00:26:40,968
be affected by that?
579
00:26:40,970 --> 00:26:44,772
If they are prone to depression
580
00:26:44,774 --> 00:26:47,474
or violent outbursts,
581
00:26:47,476 --> 00:26:49,810
it could be exacerbated.
582
00:26:49,812 --> 00:26:53,914
People might harm others
or themselves.
583
00:26:55,718 --> 00:26:58,819
The people that she hunts,
584
00:26:58,821 --> 00:27:02,423
they have a very bad experience
with her directly.
585
00:27:09,632 --> 00:27:13,033
I saw several disturbing
things on my walk,
586
00:27:13,035 --> 00:27:15,202
but two concerned me the most.
587
00:27:15,204 --> 00:27:19,106
First, the dead teenage boy
who torments the living.
588
00:27:19,108 --> 00:27:22,076
He had, like, thin,
589
00:27:22,078 --> 00:27:24,078
longer hair,
590
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,914
pretty large nose,
591
00:27:26,916 --> 00:27:28,415
and one of the things he does
592
00:27:28,417 --> 00:27:30,484
is he'll lift up the bed
and drop it.
593
00:27:30,486 --> 00:27:34,088
Next, I described the witch
who hunts the living.
594
00:27:34,090 --> 00:27:37,358
Half of her was a skeleton
that was burnt and charred,
595
00:27:37,360 --> 00:27:39,159
and then the other half
was normal.
596
00:27:44,834 --> 00:27:47,634
Amy, is this what you saw?
597
00:27:47,636 --> 00:27:49,036
Yes. That's what I saw.
598
00:28:07,597 --> 00:28:10,898
Now that Amy and I have
completed our investigations,
599
00:28:10,900 --> 00:28:13,234
we're ready to reveal
our findings to each other
600
00:28:13,236 --> 00:28:15,770
and our clients
for the first time.
601
00:28:15,772 --> 00:28:18,172
So, Amy,
this is Tim and Jacqui.
602
00:28:18,174 --> 00:28:20,808
They live here with
their two adorable kids.
603
00:28:20,810 --> 00:28:22,577
This is Bradley, who is 8,
604
00:28:22,579 --> 00:28:25,379
and this is Pheobie, who is 6.
605
00:28:25,381 --> 00:28:27,915
Now the whole family is
being terrorized,
606
00:28:27,917 --> 00:28:29,250
but the main reason we're here
607
00:28:29,252 --> 00:28:31,519
is these guys are convinced
something in this house
608
00:28:31,521 --> 00:28:33,788
is tearing their marriage apart
and trying to break them up,
609
00:28:33,790 --> 00:28:35,123
and if we can't help them,
610
00:28:35,125 --> 00:28:36,791
they don't think their marriage
is gonna make it.
611
00:28:36,793 --> 00:28:39,327
So now that Amy knows
a little bit about you guys,
612
00:28:39,329 --> 00:28:40,928
I'll ask her
to describe her walk.
613
00:28:45,101 --> 00:28:47,969
I went upstairs and I went
into the laundry room.
614
00:28:47,971 --> 00:28:52,006
I saw a teeny tiny woman
and her three children.
615
00:28:52,008 --> 00:28:56,210
I got that she was married
since she was about 14.
616
00:28:56,212 --> 00:29:00,348
She died young, I'd say between
28 and 29 years of age.
617
00:29:00,350 --> 00:29:02,950
Extremely protective
of her children
618
00:29:02,952 --> 00:29:06,354
who are very rambunctious.
619
00:29:06,356 --> 00:29:09,157
These kids like to hang out
in that little, like,
620
00:29:09,159 --> 00:29:12,527
crawl space attic thing
upstairs.
621
00:29:12,529 --> 00:29:15,530
You should hear laughing,
running around,
622
00:29:15,532 --> 00:29:18,266
things bouncing off the walls.
623
00:29:18,268 --> 00:29:20,635
Bradley's had experiences
with that crawl space, right?
624
00:29:20,637 --> 00:29:21,669
Several different things.
625
00:29:21,671 --> 00:29:23,638
He's seen a little girl
up there.
626
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:28,209
He describes her as...
what'd he say, 11?
627
00:29:28,211 --> 00:29:29,844
A bunch of stuff you're talking
about reminds me
628
00:29:29,846 --> 00:29:32,280
of some past owners that
actually lived in this house,
629
00:29:32,282 --> 00:29:33,781
especially the part
about the woman.
630
00:29:33,783 --> 00:29:35,950
Now, a family named
the Passingers
631
00:29:35,952 --> 00:29:38,286
lived in this house
from 1956 to '73.
632
00:29:38,288 --> 00:29:40,788
Now the expert I talked to said
that this family had bad luck
633
00:29:40,790 --> 00:29:42,190
before they moved here
634
00:29:42,192 --> 00:29:43,824
and bad luck after
they got into the house.
635
00:29:43,826 --> 00:29:45,393
They had a teenage son
named Andrew
636
00:29:45,395 --> 00:29:47,528
who was a mess
and got into a lot of trouble.
637
00:29:47,530 --> 00:29:51,899
And later on, he married a girl
named Elaine Diers in 1942.
638
00:29:51,901 --> 00:29:55,303
And now I say "girl" because
she was 15 years old.
639
00:29:55,305 --> 00:29:58,940
So now Andrew and Elaine
wind up having three kids.
640
00:29:58,942 --> 00:30:01,642
A few years later,
Elaine got very sick.
641
00:30:01,644 --> 00:30:04,212
She died a few years later
in 1956,
642
00:30:04,214 --> 00:30:05,613
and, get this,
just like you said,
643
00:30:05,615 --> 00:30:07,448
she was 28 years old
when she died.
644
00:30:07,450 --> 00:30:08,983
Interesting.
645
00:30:10,186 --> 00:30:12,186
All right.
So what else did you see?
646
00:30:12,188 --> 00:30:16,157
The next person that I ran into,
he was a teenage boy,
647
00:30:16,159 --> 00:30:18,192
and he is
a big problem here.
648
00:30:18,194 --> 00:30:20,828
He definitely somehow
connected to the land.
649
00:30:20,830 --> 00:30:23,598
He's pretty powerful
and very present,
650
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:26,234
very upset and angry.
651
00:30:26,236 --> 00:30:29,470
I think there's a few ways that
the living would experience him.
652
00:30:29,472 --> 00:30:32,473
He is very noisy,
so one of the things I thought
653
00:30:32,475 --> 00:30:34,275
he might be capable
of doing
654
00:30:34,277 --> 00:30:37,845
is turning on the televisions,
turning on the radios
655
00:30:37,847 --> 00:30:42,149
and getting them to go up
as loud as he possibly can.
656
00:30:42,151 --> 00:30:45,419
Also, he's a klepto.
657
00:30:45,421 --> 00:30:46,821
Things might go missing,
658
00:30:46,823 --> 00:30:48,990
and there is a lot of stress
and anger with him.
659
00:30:48,992 --> 00:30:51,325
At this point,
he wants you guys gone.
660
00:30:51,327 --> 00:30:53,494
He does not want you
in this house.
661
00:30:53,496 --> 00:30:55,196
I think you might have seen
the look on their face
662
00:30:55,198 --> 00:30:57,665
when you mentioned stuff
going missing.
663
00:30:57,667 --> 00:30:59,967
I'd be sitting there.
I'd set my keys down,
664
00:30:59,969 --> 00:31:02,203
and I'd be doing my makeup
or my hair or something,
665
00:31:02,205 --> 00:31:04,438
turn around to grab 'em
to put them back in my purse,
666
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,040
and they'd be gone.
667
00:31:06,042 --> 00:31:09,410
I'd look everywhere for 'em,
couldn't find 'em.
668
00:31:09,412 --> 00:31:12,480
15, 20 minutes later, they're
right back in the same spot.
669
00:31:12,482 --> 00:31:15,316
Amy, you also mentioned this kid
could turn on radios.
670
00:31:15,318 --> 00:31:17,852
Now, Tim, you guys had a stereo
that just went on, right?
671
00:31:17,854 --> 00:31:19,520
- Yes.
- Tell Amy about it.
672
00:31:19,522 --> 00:31:22,056
All of a sudden, my daughter's
radio, which was unplugged,
673
00:31:22,058 --> 00:31:24,458
turned on, and it was as loud
as it could go.
674
00:31:24,460 --> 00:31:26,794
- And where were the kids?
- They weren't home.
675
00:31:26,796 --> 00:31:31,065
He's starting to become
more physical.
676
00:31:31,067 --> 00:31:33,367
I saw him standing
at the end of the bed
677
00:31:33,369 --> 00:31:36,837
and actually lifting the bed
and making it shake.
678
00:31:36,839 --> 00:31:41,075
I had a sketch done
of what I saw.
679
00:31:46,916 --> 00:31:48,215
Kind of creepy.
680
00:31:53,656 --> 00:31:56,123
That's exactly
what it looked like.
681
00:31:58,227 --> 00:32:01,495
- That -- that was my nightmare...
- months ago.
682
00:32:09,706 --> 00:32:14,408
He was holding me down
in the bed from behind.
683
00:32:14,410 --> 00:32:18,079
Now, this stuff
is in your dream.
684
00:32:18,081 --> 00:32:20,147
It might not be a dream.
685
00:32:20,149 --> 00:32:23,818
So he could be actually
holding her down and doing that
686
00:32:23,820 --> 00:32:26,687
and having physical contact
with her.
687
00:32:26,689 --> 00:32:29,824
I wake up with bruises
on my legs a lot.
688
00:32:29,826 --> 00:32:32,460
You guys told me Pheobie
has woken up with marks, too.
689
00:32:32,462 --> 00:32:35,363
Pheobie, she had a dream,
and she was talking
690
00:32:35,365 --> 00:32:39,066
about this snake
in her dream that bit her.
691
00:32:39,068 --> 00:32:42,036
This is Pheobie's neck,
and it looks like bite mark.
692
00:32:42,038 --> 00:32:43,304
A bite.
693
00:32:44,574 --> 00:32:46,407
Can't stop shaking.
694
00:32:47,844 --> 00:32:50,845
When I was in the bedroom,
I got that
695
00:32:50,847 --> 00:32:54,815
someone was experiencing
a lot of unhappiness.
696
00:32:54,817 --> 00:32:57,485
The person is feeling
extremely unsettled,
697
00:32:57,487 --> 00:32:59,787
honestly hating their life.
698
00:32:59,789 --> 00:33:03,758
So these negative emotions
have attracted this entity
699
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,927
that I was referring
to as "the drip."
700
00:33:06,929 --> 00:33:10,631
It's never been human,
and when I first encountered it,
701
00:33:10,633 --> 00:33:14,702
it came down,
and it's all black and shiny,
702
00:33:14,704 --> 00:33:17,004
and what you see
is your face.
703
00:33:17,006 --> 00:33:20,341
This thing forces people
to look at themselves
704
00:33:20,343 --> 00:33:24,011
and look at their darkest truths
about their lives.
705
00:33:24,013 --> 00:33:27,848
It makes you kind of focus on
things that you've done
706
00:33:27,850 --> 00:33:30,451
that you're not
particularly proud of.
707
00:33:30,453 --> 00:33:34,088
If you don't,
you can kind of go crazy.
708
00:33:34,090 --> 00:33:38,058
It makes the person who is
going through this
709
00:33:38,060 --> 00:33:42,029
kind of emotionally unstable,
constantly ill,
710
00:33:42,031 --> 00:33:45,433
and it can trigger things
like PTSD events.
711
00:33:45,435 --> 00:33:49,003
So it can kind of make you have
a little bit of a breakdown.
712
00:33:49,005 --> 00:33:51,639
The dead here are terrified
of this thing.
713
00:33:51,641 --> 00:33:54,508
One of you or both of you
have attracted it,
714
00:33:54,510 --> 00:33:56,777
and they are pissed off,
715
00:33:56,779 --> 00:33:58,145
and they don't want
to deal with it,
716
00:33:58,147 --> 00:34:00,915
and so they need you
out of here.
717
00:34:00,917 --> 00:34:02,983
Now, listen, I told you these
two are having problems
718
00:34:02,985 --> 00:34:04,051
with their marriage.
719
00:34:04,053 --> 00:34:05,419
You know what?
720
00:34:05,421 --> 00:34:06,620
Tim, tell her about these
voices you're hearing.
721
00:34:06,622 --> 00:34:09,557
After my wife had her
heart attack...
722
00:34:09,559 --> 00:34:10,724
What?
723
00:34:10,726 --> 00:34:12,460
After she came home,
every once in a while,
724
00:34:12,462 --> 00:34:15,629
I'd hear a voice in my head say,
"You don't love your wife."
725
00:34:15,631 --> 00:34:18,265
It was just repeated,
repeated, repeated,
726
00:34:18,267 --> 00:34:20,768
"You don't love your wife.
You need to leave," every night.
727
00:34:20,770 --> 00:34:23,637
We were like best friends.
728
00:34:23,639 --> 00:34:25,072
We don't have so much
as a date night.
729
00:34:25,074 --> 00:34:28,275
We don't talk that much.
730
00:34:28,277 --> 00:34:30,511
We fight like
it's World War III.
731
00:34:30,513 --> 00:34:33,247
She thinks you want out of here,
you want to book.
732
00:34:33,249 --> 00:34:35,249
I mean, tell her what
you really feel.
733
00:34:35,251 --> 00:34:38,118
I love you. I want to be here
for the rest of my life.
734
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:39,820
I don't want to go anywhere.
735
00:34:39,822 --> 00:34:41,355
I made a commitment to be
in this family.
736
00:34:41,357 --> 00:34:43,457
I love you, and that's never
gonna change.
737
00:34:56,739 --> 00:34:58,038
And you guys probably haven't
kissed and hugged
738
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,574
like that in how long?
- Too long.
739
00:35:00,576 --> 00:35:03,310
I haven't even really
full-fledged cried
740
00:35:03,312 --> 00:35:05,012
since my heart attack.
741
00:35:05,014 --> 00:35:07,147
How long
ago was this event?
742
00:35:07,149 --> 00:35:09,383
- A year ago.
- So let me ask you a question.
743
00:35:09,385 --> 00:35:10,484
You mentioned a drip
744
00:35:10,486 --> 00:35:11,752
that is being attracted
by somebody here.
745
00:35:11,754 --> 00:35:14,154
Is it one of them,
or is it both of them?
746
00:35:14,156 --> 00:35:19,927
Taking into consideration
your health and the mind frame,
747
00:35:19,929 --> 00:35:23,397
it could have been
initially attracted to you.
748
00:35:26,569 --> 00:35:27,935
What else we got going on?
749
00:35:27,937 --> 00:35:31,038
This land is inherently
contaminated.
750
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,440
Bad things
tend to happen here.
751
00:35:33,442 --> 00:35:37,311
If somebody is living here who
is prone to violent outbursts,
752
00:35:37,313 --> 00:35:39,580
depression,
those types of experiences
753
00:35:39,582 --> 00:35:41,549
would become
far more frequent here.
754
00:35:41,551 --> 00:35:43,183
Now, this could be a shot
in the dark,
755
00:35:43,185 --> 00:35:45,853
but there is a reason
that this land could be bad.
756
00:35:45,855 --> 00:35:48,989
Settlers, when they first
came here in the 1800s,
757
00:35:48,991 --> 00:35:51,592
they discovered
a massive Indian burial mound
758
00:35:51,594 --> 00:35:53,627
literally a couple thousand feet
from the house.
759
00:35:53,629 --> 00:35:54,795
Oh.
760
00:35:54,797 --> 00:35:57,097
But in 1825,
people started digging it up.
761
00:35:57,099 --> 00:35:59,700
Now what I thought was strange
is they grabbed these bones
762
00:35:59,702 --> 00:36:03,370
and they put them on display
through the museums in the area.
763
00:36:03,372 --> 00:36:06,540
I actually got a photo
on how they did it.
764
00:36:06,542 --> 00:36:08,943
Do you think any of this could
be why the land is bad here?
765
00:36:08,945 --> 00:36:12,746
Ah, this one's
a little different.
766
00:36:12,748 --> 00:36:16,250
The reason why the land
is a huge, huge problem
767
00:36:16,252 --> 00:36:19,553
is because this very active
dead woman
768
00:36:19,555 --> 00:36:22,690
placed a curse on the land.
769
00:36:22,692 --> 00:36:26,927
I got that this dead woman was
around during the late 1600s.
770
00:36:26,929 --> 00:36:29,930
During that time,
people, uh,
771
00:36:29,932 --> 00:36:32,933
decided that this woman
was a witch,
772
00:36:32,935 --> 00:36:36,437
and so they took her
and they burned her.
773
00:36:36,439 --> 00:36:39,907
She's extremely solid
and powerful.
774
00:36:39,909 --> 00:36:42,610
She says now
that she has to hunt,
775
00:36:42,612 --> 00:36:44,478
and I feel she's doing it
776
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:47,348
because she's angry
and she wants revenge.
777
00:36:47,350 --> 00:36:51,752
She'll try to make your life
as miserable as she can.
778
00:36:51,754 --> 00:36:56,323
When she was upstairs, there was
a lot of hate towards you guys.
779
00:36:56,325 --> 00:36:59,426
I saw her kind of looming over
the bed.
780
00:36:59,428 --> 00:37:01,962
She also makes people ill.
781
00:37:01,964 --> 00:37:03,497
You know, we've already talked
782
00:37:03,499 --> 00:37:06,700
about Jacqui's health problems,
but Tim's had his share, too.
783
00:37:06,702 --> 00:37:08,802
I've been in the emergency room
four times...
784
00:37:08,804 --> 00:37:10,037
Mm-hmm.
785
00:37:10,039 --> 00:37:11,238
...with the feeling of having
a heart attack.
786
00:37:11,240 --> 00:37:12,573
Oh, my God.
787
00:37:12,575 --> 00:37:15,242
And since then,
they've ran all their tests.
788
00:37:15,244 --> 00:37:18,345
They can't find
anything wrong with me.
789
00:37:18,347 --> 00:37:19,647
So as far
as this woman goes,
790
00:37:19,649 --> 00:37:22,116
is it possible that these guys
will be able to see her?
791
00:37:22,118 --> 00:37:23,584
I think so.
792
00:37:23,586 --> 00:37:26,086
She's capable of projecting
herself any which way.
793
00:37:26,088 --> 00:37:27,655
I'm worried about
the little girl
794
00:37:27,657 --> 00:37:29,089
that your son saw.
795
00:37:29,091 --> 00:37:32,693
So she may be showing herself
to her son as a little girl.
796
00:37:32,695 --> 00:37:34,128
Right.
797
00:37:34,130 --> 00:37:38,332
And I did have a sketch done
of how she presented to me.
798
00:37:43,072 --> 00:37:44,938
Oh, that is
pretty [bleep] up looking.
799
00:37:47,143 --> 00:37:49,476
Oh, wow.
800
00:37:49,478 --> 00:37:51,478
- That is creepy.
- That is.
801
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:53,280
Scary to think
that you have something
802
00:37:53,282 --> 00:37:55,616
like this in your house.
803
00:37:55,618 --> 00:37:57,084
All right, so what the hell
804
00:37:57,086 --> 00:37:59,586
does she want from these people?
She wants you out of here
805
00:37:59,588 --> 00:38:02,423
because you have the drip
with you right now,
806
00:38:02,425 --> 00:38:05,726
and she does not want
to deal with that.
807
00:38:07,463 --> 00:38:09,263
So is she trying to
split them up
808
00:38:09,265 --> 00:38:10,764
in a way
of getting them out of here?
809
00:38:10,766 --> 00:38:12,332
Yes.
810
00:38:12,334 --> 00:38:15,102
She's absolutely capable
of being a manipulator
811
00:38:15,104 --> 00:38:18,806
and trying to get into
your subconscious
812
00:38:18,808 --> 00:38:22,342
and, you know, giving you
these instructions.
813
00:38:22,344 --> 00:38:25,379
You know, "You don't love her
anymore" and working on that,
814
00:38:25,381 --> 00:38:27,781
even if she manipulated the way
you heard her.
815
00:38:27,783 --> 00:38:28,949
I was just going
to ask you that
816
00:38:28,951 --> 00:38:30,818
because he heard it
in a man's voice.
817
00:38:30,820 --> 00:38:33,587
She'll do that to
fool people.
818
00:38:33,589 --> 00:38:36,323
I thought it was my fault.
819
00:38:36,325 --> 00:38:39,159
I brought this stuff here.
820
00:38:39,161 --> 00:38:41,161
Why do you feel that way?
821
00:38:42,398 --> 00:38:44,264
When I was 14...
822
00:38:46,502 --> 00:38:48,469
...I was raped.
823
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:54,908
And I had no one.
824
00:38:54,910 --> 00:38:58,712
After that,
everything I did was a lie.
825
00:38:58,714 --> 00:39:01,582
Well, you know what's going on
here is not your fault.
826
00:39:01,584 --> 00:39:03,884
I still blame myself.
827
00:39:03,886 --> 00:39:05,886
How do I fix this?
828
00:39:21,328 --> 00:39:24,930
Now, Jacqui, when we first met,
you told me the only thing
829
00:39:24,932 --> 00:39:27,433
you really wanted
is your family back.
830
00:39:27,435 --> 00:39:29,334
Now the big question is,
will you be able to do that
831
00:39:29,336 --> 00:39:33,105
here in this house,
and what's it gonna take?
832
00:39:33,107 --> 00:39:35,607
For that answer, I'm gonna
turn it over to Amy.
833
00:39:38,212 --> 00:39:39,645
Let's start with the drip.
834
00:39:39,647 --> 00:39:42,915
We all have moments
in our lives,
835
00:39:42,917 --> 00:39:44,983
like what you're going
through right now,
836
00:39:44,985 --> 00:39:47,953
where you are given
an opportunity
837
00:39:47,955 --> 00:39:50,422
to deal with [bleep]
that you've acquired.
838
00:39:50,424 --> 00:39:55,394
You have a chance right now
to seek more therapy
839
00:39:55,396 --> 00:39:59,298
dealing with the rape
that happened,
840
00:39:59,300 --> 00:40:01,500
processing those things,
841
00:40:01,502 --> 00:40:03,702
and I know it's horrible,
842
00:40:03,704 --> 00:40:06,138
but really processing
those things,
843
00:40:06,140 --> 00:40:08,974
and anything else
that's happened
844
00:40:08,976 --> 00:40:11,076
that's haunting you now.
845
00:40:11,078 --> 00:40:13,378
If you don't deal with them,
846
00:40:13,380 --> 00:40:17,883
they're just gonna get bigger
and uglier and nastier.
847
00:40:17,885 --> 00:40:20,119
If you go through all this
the right way,
848
00:40:20,121 --> 00:40:22,988
you can come out being
a proactive person
849
00:40:22,990 --> 00:40:27,826
and a truly strong person,
a survivor.
850
00:40:27,828 --> 00:40:31,964
As far as the dead,
it would be extremely difficult
851
00:40:31,966 --> 00:40:36,268
to move her on,
if at all even possible.
852
00:40:36,270 --> 00:40:38,770
The teenager, as well,
would be extremely difficult.
853
00:40:41,575 --> 00:40:44,576
Frankly, I would suggest
that you not stay here.
854
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:49,548
The land here
is very, very bad.
855
00:40:49,550 --> 00:40:53,852
You're talking about hundreds
of years of contamination
856
00:40:53,854 --> 00:40:57,422
that can't be
just wiped away.
857
00:40:57,424 --> 00:40:59,892
And because of where you are
in your life,
858
00:40:59,894 --> 00:41:04,830
I just feel that it would
do you no favor to stay here
859
00:41:04,832 --> 00:41:08,200
and go through
this transition.
860
00:41:08,202 --> 00:41:09,601
It's going to be hard,
861
00:41:09,603 --> 00:41:12,704
but if we set our minds
to it, we can do it.
862
00:41:12,706 --> 00:41:14,239
I agree.
It's going to be stressful,
863
00:41:14,241 --> 00:41:17,409
but it comes down
to family first.
864
00:41:20,981 --> 00:41:24,116
Just really appreciative
of you guys for helping us.
865
00:41:24,118 --> 00:41:25,817
If it wasn't for you guys
coming out here,
866
00:41:25,819 --> 00:41:28,086
we -- we don't know where
we would have ended up.
867
00:41:31,091 --> 00:41:33,525
I wish I had better news
for Tim and Jacqui,
868
00:41:33,527 --> 00:41:36,361
but leaving this home is
their best option.
869
00:41:36,363 --> 00:41:39,431
If they do that, and if Jacqui
goes into therapy,
870
00:41:39,433 --> 00:41:40,999
they'll begin
the process of healing
871
00:41:41,001 --> 00:41:43,969
and lead a peaceful,
happy life.
872
00:41:44,019 --> 00:41:48,569
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