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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:10,327 --> 00:00:13,595 Oh, boy. It's a demon! 2 00:00:13,597 --> 00:00:17,232 And I looked up, and there was an apparition of an old man. 3 00:00:17,234 --> 00:00:20,436 She's not good, and the person has, like, nightmares. 4 00:00:22,006 --> 00:00:24,540 He laid down on his bed and he shot himself in the chest. 5 00:00:24,542 --> 00:00:26,842 So I think he's insane. 6 00:00:26,844 --> 00:00:30,412 I saw a dark figure with red eyes. 7 00:00:30,414 --> 00:00:31,847 They're probably gonna die. 8 00:00:33,851 --> 00:00:36,885 The people who live here need help. 9 00:00:36,887 --> 00:00:39,321 This seems like a possession. 10 00:00:39,323 --> 00:00:42,257 My name is Amy Allan. 11 00:00:42,259 --> 00:00:44,860 Everything was built on blood. 12 00:00:44,862 --> 00:00:47,529 I see dead people. Very disturbing. 13 00:00:47,531 --> 00:00:49,898 I speak to dead people. 14 00:00:49,900 --> 00:00:51,767 There's victims around him. 15 00:00:51,769 --> 00:00:53,035 Ow. And they speak to me. 16 00:00:53,037 --> 00:00:55,370 Her voice sounds like death. 17 00:00:55,372 --> 00:00:58,440 But there's only one way to know if my findings are real. 18 00:00:58,442 --> 00:01:01,176 The living don't stand a chance here. 19 00:01:01,178 --> 00:01:02,611 I rely on my partner. 20 00:01:02,613 --> 00:01:04,146 I'm Steve Di Schiavi. 21 00:01:04,148 --> 00:01:06,348 I'm a retired New York City homicide detective. 22 00:01:06,350 --> 00:01:07,483 You could have got killed. 23 00:01:07,485 --> 00:01:11,086 I know every person, every house has secrets. 24 00:01:11,088 --> 00:01:12,588 This is coming straight from hell. 25 00:01:12,590 --> 00:01:14,189 It's my job to reveal them. 26 00:01:14,191 --> 00:01:16,158 Your mom was murdered right here in this room. Yes, she was. 27 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:18,227 But Steve and I never speak... 28 00:01:18,229 --> 00:01:20,262 We never communicate during an investigation. 29 00:01:20,264 --> 00:01:21,563 ...until the very end. 30 00:01:21,565 --> 00:01:23,031 This was just the beginning. 31 00:01:23,033 --> 00:01:25,033 When we uncover if it's safe for you to stay... 32 00:01:25,035 --> 00:01:26,535 Oh, my god. 33 00:01:26,537 --> 00:01:28,370 Or time to get out. 34 00:01:28,372 --> 00:01:30,172 They're very bad. 35 00:01:30,174 --> 00:01:32,741 This house is trying to kill me. 36 00:01:46,090 --> 00:01:49,057 I'm in the small town of Ripley, West Virginia. 37 00:01:49,059 --> 00:01:51,160 It's about an hour north of Charleston. 38 00:01:51,162 --> 00:01:52,761 I got a call from a guy named Scott 39 00:01:52,763 --> 00:01:53,962 who is a father of three. 40 00:01:53,964 --> 00:01:57,299 Now, he told me activity in the house is violent 41 00:01:57,301 --> 00:01:58,801 and out of control. 42 00:01:58,803 --> 00:02:02,304 And he's worried one of the kids are going to get seriously hurt. 43 00:02:02,306 --> 00:02:04,873 I really hope Amy and I can help this guy out. 44 00:02:08,379 --> 00:02:10,846 Before Amy arrives, I clear the home of anything 45 00:02:10,848 --> 00:02:12,848 that might influence her findings. 46 00:02:12,850 --> 00:02:17,619 Religious icons, family photos, and personal items 47 00:02:17,621 --> 00:02:19,922 must be covered or removed. 48 00:02:19,924 --> 00:02:21,423 When I'm finished, 49 00:02:21,425 --> 00:02:23,892 the location will be ready for tonight's walk. 50 00:02:33,504 --> 00:02:35,204 What the hell? 51 00:02:37,541 --> 00:02:39,908 Is there a demon here? 52 00:02:41,312 --> 00:02:42,544 Ooh, boy. 53 00:02:42,546 --> 00:02:45,647 I'm seeing a tall guy who looks like a devil. 54 00:02:45,649 --> 00:02:47,115 What is it doing? 55 00:02:47,117 --> 00:02:48,617 Causing havoc. 56 00:02:48,619 --> 00:02:50,686 He's got a lot of little demons running around. 57 00:02:50,688 --> 00:02:56,258 The living here have interactions with the devil, 58 00:02:56,260 --> 00:02:57,893 and the people who live here need help 59 00:02:57,895 --> 00:03:00,362 because of the crazy that's going on. 60 00:03:10,140 --> 00:03:12,507 When we spoke on the phone, you sounded really desperate. 61 00:03:12,509 --> 00:03:14,142 What the hell's going on here? 62 00:03:14,144 --> 00:03:16,445 There's something evil, something paranormal. 63 00:03:16,447 --> 00:03:17,880 I mean, it's causing problems. 64 00:03:17,882 --> 00:03:22,084 It's attacking my wife and my kids, and I need help. 65 00:03:22,086 --> 00:03:25,520 One of the reasons I took the case is because of the kids. 66 00:03:25,522 --> 00:03:27,489 Who exactly lives in the house? 67 00:03:31,362 --> 00:03:36,899 Donovan, Kayden, my wife Wendy, me, and Lacey. 68 00:03:36,901 --> 00:03:38,100 How long have you guys been living here? 69 00:03:38,102 --> 00:03:39,167 About a year and a half. 70 00:03:39,169 --> 00:03:40,869 We moved here because where we came from 71 00:03:40,871 --> 00:03:42,537 was a bad neighborhood. 72 00:03:42,539 --> 00:03:45,307 And then we came here hoping this was going to be a home. 73 00:03:45,309 --> 00:03:47,142 But it's not a home. 74 00:03:47,144 --> 00:03:48,610 Did you notice activity right away? 75 00:03:48,612 --> 00:03:51,647 No. Six months after we moved in, 76 00:03:51,649 --> 00:03:53,515 the neighbor's house burned clear to the ground. 77 00:03:53,517 --> 00:03:55,050 That's when the activity started. 78 00:03:55,052 --> 00:03:56,218 Was anybody hurt in that fire? 79 00:03:56,220 --> 00:03:57,419 No, nobody was hurt, 80 00:03:57,421 --> 00:03:59,922 but I feel that something dark was awakened. 81 00:03:59,924 --> 00:04:01,223 Do me a favor and give me a list 82 00:04:01,225 --> 00:04:02,591 of what you guys are experiencing. 83 00:04:02,593 --> 00:04:05,160 We've heard noises, heard voices. 84 00:04:05,162 --> 00:04:07,129 We've seen apparitions. 85 00:04:07,131 --> 00:04:08,864 We've seen shadow figures. 86 00:04:08,866 --> 00:04:11,700 and my wife and daughter's been attacked. 87 00:04:11,702 --> 00:04:13,869 Now is everybody in the house being affected? 88 00:04:13,871 --> 00:04:15,404 Yeah, they're getting the physical. 89 00:04:15,406 --> 00:04:19,541 And my oldest son, Donovan, he's getting more of the emotional. 90 00:04:19,543 --> 00:04:21,043 What do you mean, emotional? 91 00:04:21,045 --> 00:04:23,745 I mean, what was he like before you moved in here? 92 00:04:23,747 --> 00:04:28,016 Laughing, joking, happy. 93 00:04:28,018 --> 00:04:30,385 Right. So what happened? 94 00:04:30,387 --> 00:04:32,387 A change overnight. I mean, 95 00:04:32,389 --> 00:04:36,058 it just went from straight to, like, no communication. 96 00:04:36,060 --> 00:04:37,492 Trying to shove everybody out. 97 00:04:37,494 --> 00:04:39,594 Did anything happen in his life? 98 00:04:39,596 --> 00:04:40,829 Did he break up with a girlfriend? 99 00:04:40,831 --> 00:04:42,831 I don't know. 100 00:04:42,833 --> 00:04:44,800 He's even kept things from us. 101 00:04:44,802 --> 00:04:46,568 It's scary. It really is. 102 00:04:46,570 --> 00:04:48,804 All right, so what makes you think that's paranormal? 103 00:04:48,806 --> 00:04:50,539 Because it seems like it's controlling him. 104 00:04:50,541 --> 00:04:52,407 It's like he doesn't want to leave the house. 105 00:04:52,409 --> 00:04:54,109 He doesn't want to leave the room. 106 00:04:54,111 --> 00:04:55,811 So if you take him away from the house, what happens? 107 00:04:55,813 --> 00:04:57,779 He wants to go back home to his room. 108 00:04:57,781 --> 00:04:59,848 - Has he seen a doctor? - Yes. 109 00:04:59,850 --> 00:05:03,051 - What's the doctor say? - They're not really sure. 110 00:05:03,053 --> 00:05:04,720 But there's nothing they can do. 111 00:05:04,722 --> 00:05:05,921 If anything ever happened to my kids, 112 00:05:05,923 --> 00:05:08,323 I couldn't live with myself. I could live. 113 00:05:08,325 --> 00:05:09,558 Well, I gotta ask you, Scott. 114 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:11,259 I mean, why don't you just pack up and leave? 115 00:05:11,261 --> 00:05:13,161 - I mean... - We thought about it. 116 00:05:13,163 --> 00:05:15,097 Scared it's going to follow us. 117 00:05:15,099 --> 00:05:17,466 I'm scared it's gonna cause more damage. 118 00:05:20,537 --> 00:05:22,771 It's weird. 119 00:05:22,773 --> 00:05:25,140 I'm seeing the tall devil guy again, 120 00:05:25,142 --> 00:05:28,810 but now he's dressed like a Catholic priest. 121 00:05:28,812 --> 00:05:31,713 He's like, "Don't go any further." 122 00:05:31,715 --> 00:05:37,486 And he shows me that the people put a barrier over their house. 123 00:05:37,488 --> 00:05:40,789 He burrows into the ground, goes under the fence 124 00:05:40,791 --> 00:05:44,259 and pops up inside. 125 00:05:44,261 --> 00:05:45,761 And he goes, "Ha ha! 126 00:05:45,763 --> 00:05:48,797 They can't keep me out, and neither can you." 127 00:05:48,799 --> 00:05:51,433 So there's no hallowed ground here. 128 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:58,273 This is where the fire was, right? 129 00:05:58,275 --> 00:06:00,008 Yes. Yes, it was. 130 00:06:00,010 --> 00:06:01,276 You weren't kidding when you said 131 00:06:01,278 --> 00:06:02,377 it burnt down to the ground. 132 00:06:02,379 --> 00:06:03,812 Oh, man, it burned clear down. 133 00:06:03,814 --> 00:06:06,048 All right, Scott, so what kind of experiences have you had? 134 00:06:06,050 --> 00:06:09,618 Well, I got woken up from a sound of a gunshot. 135 00:06:09,620 --> 00:06:11,987 Okay, this is West Virginia. I mean, there's guns everywhere. 136 00:06:11,989 --> 00:06:14,423 How sure are you that it didn't come from outside? 137 00:06:14,425 --> 00:06:17,759 I could actually feel the concussion. 138 00:06:17,761 --> 00:06:20,262 - You keep guns in the house? - No, I do not. 139 00:06:20,264 --> 00:06:22,864 I thought maybe Donovan might have shot his self. 140 00:06:22,866 --> 00:06:24,800 I was terrified. 141 00:06:24,802 --> 00:06:26,868 Okay, so now you've realized it's not Donovan. 142 00:06:26,870 --> 00:06:28,470 What the hell do you think it was? 143 00:06:28,472 --> 00:06:30,772 The neighbor told me that a previous owner 144 00:06:30,774 --> 00:06:33,508 done suicide in the house in the '90s. 145 00:06:33,510 --> 00:06:34,876 - Really? - Yes. 146 00:06:34,878 --> 00:06:36,711 All right. I'll have to definitely check that out. 147 00:06:36,713 --> 00:06:38,213 Anything else? 148 00:06:38,215 --> 00:06:40,315 I just hear bangs and knocks throughout the house. 149 00:06:40,317 --> 00:06:41,716 Can you describe the sounds? 150 00:06:41,718 --> 00:06:44,252 It sounds like someone's, like, beating on the wall. 151 00:06:44,254 --> 00:06:46,321 And sometimes it sounds like silverware 152 00:06:46,323 --> 00:06:48,457 dropping into the sink. 153 00:06:48,459 --> 00:06:50,659 It's a pretty old house. You're sure it's not the plumbing? 154 00:06:50,661 --> 00:06:52,961 - I don't think it is. - Have you ever had it checked? 155 00:06:52,963 --> 00:06:55,163 No, I have not. 156 00:06:55,165 --> 00:06:56,565 Anything else? 157 00:06:56,567 --> 00:06:59,201 I was out here in the backyard and I heard three knocks. 158 00:06:59,203 --> 00:07:01,403 And I looked up and there was an apparition of an old man 159 00:07:01,405 --> 00:07:03,171 that was looking through the window there. 160 00:07:03,173 --> 00:07:06,208 - He had, like, peppered hair. - Okay. 161 00:07:06,210 --> 00:07:09,778 Older-like man, and his nose right here was wide. 162 00:07:09,780 --> 00:07:11,179 - Okay. - A little bit wide. 163 00:07:11,181 --> 00:07:13,815 Skinny, slim guy. Tall. 164 00:07:13,817 --> 00:07:15,383 - Did he seem solid to you? - Oh, yes. 165 00:07:15,385 --> 00:07:18,220 It's just like me looking at you right now. 166 00:07:21,358 --> 00:07:24,693 There's elderly people here. 167 00:07:24,695 --> 00:07:28,930 So there's two men and two women who are old. 168 00:07:28,932 --> 00:07:30,465 80s, 90s. 169 00:07:30,467 --> 00:07:32,801 One couple definitely lived here. 170 00:07:32,803 --> 00:07:36,805 I'm not sure about that other couple exactly. 171 00:07:36,807 --> 00:07:38,707 They walk the halls. 172 00:07:38,709 --> 00:07:42,077 The living would hear that. 173 00:07:42,079 --> 00:07:45,847 What do you think whatever's here wants? 174 00:07:45,849 --> 00:07:48,783 I think it's wanting us out. 175 00:07:48,785 --> 00:07:51,086 But if I have to go, I'll go. 176 00:07:51,088 --> 00:07:54,623 For my kids' safety, you know, I'm out of here. 177 00:07:54,625 --> 00:07:55,824 This is probably bothering you 178 00:07:55,826 --> 00:07:57,159 a lot more than you're letting on. 179 00:07:57,161 --> 00:07:58,560 It is. 180 00:07:58,562 --> 00:08:00,495 I don't want to show my kids if I break down and cry. 181 00:08:00,497 --> 00:08:01,830 I want to stand strong. 182 00:08:01,832 --> 00:08:04,933 My first priority is to keep my family safe. 183 00:08:04,935 --> 00:08:07,435 I want them to know that they're protected as much as they can. 184 00:08:07,437 --> 00:08:08,837 And what the hell do you think is here? 185 00:08:08,839 --> 00:08:12,140 I'm not sure what it is, but I know it's evil. 186 00:08:12,142 --> 00:08:15,644 And it's not human. 187 00:08:15,646 --> 00:08:17,245 Oh, boy. 188 00:08:17,247 --> 00:08:19,948 Something is going on in the closet. 189 00:08:27,424 --> 00:08:30,025 I think he comes from up there. 190 00:08:32,196 --> 00:08:36,932 Is the person in here having experiences with this devil? 191 00:08:36,934 --> 00:08:41,069 Probably. It definitely hangs out in that closet a lot. 192 00:08:41,071 --> 00:08:43,405 Do people see it? Do the living see it? 193 00:08:43,407 --> 00:08:45,640 Yeah. Like Satan, 194 00:08:45,642 --> 00:08:48,843 but he's dressed still in the priest outfit. 195 00:08:48,845 --> 00:08:52,147 This is, like, chaos in here. 196 00:08:52,149 --> 00:08:54,416 Chaos. 197 00:09:01,124 --> 00:09:02,757 So, Lacey, how old are you? 198 00:09:02,759 --> 00:09:04,125 I'm 10. 199 00:09:04,127 --> 00:09:05,961 Daddy told me that you were afraid to be alone. 200 00:09:05,963 --> 00:09:07,329 - Is that right? - Yeah. 201 00:09:07,331 --> 00:09:08,630 Why? 202 00:09:08,632 --> 00:09:11,032 I feel like something's watching me in the closet, 203 00:09:11,034 --> 00:09:13,401 and the closet door opens. 204 00:09:13,403 --> 00:09:16,972 I got so scared that I'm sleeping with my mom now. 205 00:09:16,974 --> 00:09:19,908 Now have you seen or heard anything else that's scared you? 206 00:09:19,910 --> 00:09:23,778 In my mom's room, I saw a dark figure with red eyes. 207 00:09:23,780 --> 00:09:25,480 Then I started crying and I wouldn't quit 208 00:09:25,482 --> 00:09:27,549 until my brother told me it's okay. 209 00:09:27,551 --> 00:09:29,284 And what did you think it was, honey? 210 00:09:29,286 --> 00:09:30,585 I really couldn't tell. 211 00:09:30,587 --> 00:09:32,654 All right, so what else is going on? 212 00:09:32,656 --> 00:09:34,689 I have nightmares. 213 00:09:34,691 --> 00:09:36,157 Okay. Do you remember the nightmares, 214 00:09:36,159 --> 00:09:37,626 what they're about? 215 00:09:37,628 --> 00:09:40,729 No. Mom said that I was in my room 216 00:09:40,731 --> 00:09:42,597 and I was crying in the middle of the night, 217 00:09:42,599 --> 00:09:44,733 and I didn't -- I don't remember that. 218 00:09:44,735 --> 00:09:47,802 It sounds like you're having a tough time here. 219 00:09:47,804 --> 00:09:49,204 Anything else? 220 00:09:49,206 --> 00:09:52,307 About a week ago, I had a burning on my chest, 221 00:09:52,309 --> 00:09:55,443 so I looked down and there was three scratches. 222 00:09:55,445 --> 00:09:57,045 Lacey, do you have any idea 223 00:09:57,047 --> 00:09:59,414 what might have caused that to happen? 224 00:09:59,416 --> 00:10:01,082 - No idea. - Okay. 225 00:10:01,084 --> 00:10:02,884 Do you want to stay here or do you want to move away? 226 00:10:02,886 --> 00:10:04,085 Move away. 227 00:10:06,957 --> 00:10:11,359 So the devil guy is beating on somebody. 228 00:10:14,164 --> 00:10:16,498 Smacking someone on the back of the head. 229 00:10:18,468 --> 00:10:20,035 She's freaking out. 230 00:10:20,037 --> 00:10:24,205 And then he is beating on this child, 231 00:10:24,207 --> 00:10:26,141 so I think this person has nightmares. 232 00:10:27,678 --> 00:10:30,845 He's just torturing the [bleep] out of this person. 233 00:10:30,847 --> 00:10:33,048 He's insane. 234 00:10:53,212 --> 00:10:54,811 So, Donovan, how old are you? 235 00:10:54,813 --> 00:10:55,946 15. 236 00:10:55,948 --> 00:10:57,113 Your father seems to think 237 00:10:57,115 --> 00:10:59,115 that something in this house is affecting you. 238 00:10:59,117 --> 00:11:00,817 - You agree with him? - Mm-hmm. 239 00:11:00,819 --> 00:11:02,919 I feel like it's controlling me. 240 00:11:02,921 --> 00:11:05,188 It's like my mind goes completely blurry. 241 00:11:05,190 --> 00:11:09,392 I black out, and then it's like something else just takes over. 242 00:11:09,394 --> 00:11:11,061 I just feel hopeless. 243 00:11:11,063 --> 00:11:14,331 Your father was telling me your personality has changed 244 00:11:14,333 --> 00:11:16,933 and you don't like leaving your room. Is that true? 245 00:11:16,935 --> 00:11:20,303 Yeah. If I leave, it feels like I'm out of place. 246 00:11:20,305 --> 00:11:22,138 It feels like I'm complete in here. 247 00:11:22,140 --> 00:11:24,207 Like, all my worries go away. 248 00:11:24,209 --> 00:11:26,042 Besides the personality changes, 249 00:11:26,044 --> 00:11:28,345 what about experiences with the paranormal? 250 00:11:28,347 --> 00:11:31,081 I'm seeing this dark figure that walks in my room. 251 00:11:31,083 --> 00:11:34,551 He'll pace from the hallway to this wall. 252 00:11:34,553 --> 00:11:36,019 Okay, so what's it look like? 253 00:11:36,021 --> 00:11:37,587 Like a shadow. 254 00:11:37,589 --> 00:11:38,889 And what do you think it is? 255 00:11:38,891 --> 00:11:41,057 I think it's something evil. 256 00:11:41,059 --> 00:11:42,692 I think it's demonic. 257 00:11:42,694 --> 00:11:44,828 You taking any drugs and not telling anybody here? 258 00:11:44,830 --> 00:11:46,329 - No. - Don't [bleep] me. 259 00:11:46,331 --> 00:11:48,698 - I'm serious. - No. 260 00:11:48,700 --> 00:11:50,100 Okay. 261 00:11:54,072 --> 00:11:56,606 I see a younger boy. 262 00:11:56,608 --> 00:12:02,078 And this is weird because he's, like, organically a witch. 263 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:04,214 Can you elaborate on what you mean? 264 00:12:04,216 --> 00:12:08,318 People who automatically how to do things that witches do, 265 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:10,086 like protecting yourself. 266 00:12:10,088 --> 00:12:12,355 Is this something he's doing intentionally? 267 00:12:12,357 --> 00:12:13,957 No. 268 00:12:13,959 --> 00:12:16,159 He does not know what he's doing. 269 00:12:16,161 --> 00:12:17,994 So if he's protecting himself, does that mean 270 00:12:17,996 --> 00:12:19,629 he doesn't have any experiences? 271 00:12:19,631 --> 00:12:20,931 No, no, no, no, no. 272 00:12:20,933 --> 00:12:22,699 Just because someone's protected 273 00:12:22,701 --> 00:12:24,634 doesn't mean that they're bulletproof. 274 00:12:24,636 --> 00:12:26,970 What sort of experiences would they have? 275 00:12:26,972 --> 00:12:28,238 Things get through, 276 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:30,106 and the person has, like, nightmares. 277 00:12:32,844 --> 00:12:34,311 What's causing that? 278 00:12:34,313 --> 00:12:36,112 This is the devil priest guy. 279 00:12:36,114 --> 00:12:41,184 The kid sometimes gets scared, but doesn't know how bad it is. 280 00:12:41,186 --> 00:12:43,820 I mean, is this something that could be dangerous for him? 281 00:12:43,822 --> 00:12:46,289 Yes. It's a demon! 282 00:12:53,832 --> 00:12:55,165 So, Wendy, I was talking to your husband, 283 00:12:55,167 --> 00:12:57,167 and it sounds like things got crazy here. 284 00:12:57,169 --> 00:12:58,902 - And you agree with that? - Yeah. 285 00:12:58,904 --> 00:13:01,972 I spoke to Donovan. You gotta be worried about him. 286 00:13:01,974 --> 00:13:03,139 Yes. 287 00:13:03,141 --> 00:13:04,774 Have you ever seen him have an experience? 288 00:13:04,776 --> 00:13:06,009 Yes. 289 00:13:06,011 --> 00:13:08,378 He came into the kitchen, his eyes was black. 290 00:13:08,380 --> 00:13:10,180 Immediately went to his room, 291 00:13:10,182 --> 00:13:12,182 started crying and said, "Make it stop." 292 00:13:12,184 --> 00:13:13,583 What do you think is going on? 293 00:13:13,585 --> 00:13:16,653 I don't know. It's like he's -- Somebody's in him. 294 00:13:16,655 --> 00:13:18,355 I don't know how else to explain it. 295 00:13:18,357 --> 00:13:20,190 It was not my son. 296 00:13:20,192 --> 00:13:22,158 That's got to be hard on you as a mom. 297 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:23,460 Yeah. 298 00:13:23,462 --> 00:13:24,961 So you think whatever is here is influencing him? 299 00:13:24,963 --> 00:13:26,196 Yes. 300 00:13:26,198 --> 00:13:28,264 What experiences have you been going through? 301 00:13:28,266 --> 00:13:29,699 Around 3:00 in the morning, 302 00:13:29,701 --> 00:13:32,135 I woke up to a man screaming in my face. 303 00:13:32,137 --> 00:13:33,436 What did he say? 304 00:13:33,438 --> 00:13:35,639 "Get up. What the [bleep] are you doing sleeping?" 305 00:13:35,641 --> 00:13:37,741 I immediately jumped out of bed. 306 00:13:37,743 --> 00:13:40,777 And you're sure you weren't dreaming? Mm-hmm. 307 00:13:40,779 --> 00:13:41,978 Was it a voice you recognized? 308 00:13:41,980 --> 00:13:44,581 No. It was just a deep voice. 309 00:13:44,583 --> 00:13:46,816 - Okay. - A deep man's voice. 310 00:13:46,818 --> 00:13:48,351 It scared me to death. 311 00:13:48,353 --> 00:13:50,320 I didn't sleep the rest of the night. 312 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:57,727 There's a dead kid here. 313 00:13:57,729 --> 00:14:01,898 He is a bad, bad, evil child. 314 00:14:01,900 --> 00:14:07,003 The living here have interactions with the child, 315 00:14:07,005 --> 00:14:10,073 and he's, like, slithering along the walls. 316 00:14:11,677 --> 00:14:14,577 The living would see him in the hall 317 00:14:14,579 --> 00:14:17,847 and they would hear him and they would feel him. 318 00:14:17,849 --> 00:14:20,784 They would feel like they're being inappropriately watched. 319 00:14:23,422 --> 00:14:25,622 When he's stalking the living, 320 00:14:25,624 --> 00:14:28,825 will turn into this creepy old man 321 00:14:28,827 --> 00:14:31,161 with, like, a stretched face. 322 00:14:31,163 --> 00:14:33,430 Like, super deformed. 323 00:14:33,432 --> 00:14:35,965 He is a threat, this old, old man. 324 00:14:35,967 --> 00:14:38,902 The old couples that are here don't like him. 325 00:14:38,904 --> 00:14:41,771 He used the elderly people when they were alive, 326 00:14:41,773 --> 00:14:44,507 but now he needs new victims, 327 00:14:44,509 --> 00:14:47,510 new living people to feed off of. 328 00:14:47,512 --> 00:14:51,214 He gets them when they're sleeping in their beds at night. 329 00:14:54,486 --> 00:14:55,852 How the hell are you sleeping at night 330 00:14:55,854 --> 00:14:57,287 with all this stuff that's going on? 331 00:14:57,289 --> 00:14:59,923 Not very good. I have nightmares all the time. 332 00:14:59,925 --> 00:15:01,458 What kind of nightmares? 333 00:15:01,460 --> 00:15:04,394 Like I'm trying to protect my kids, and they don't want it. 334 00:15:04,396 --> 00:15:05,929 All right. Anything else? 335 00:15:05,931 --> 00:15:07,163 Since we've moved in, 336 00:15:07,165 --> 00:15:09,199 I've constantly felt like I'm tired all the time. 337 00:15:09,201 --> 00:15:13,269 No matter how much sleep I get, I'm still sleepy and drained. 338 00:15:13,271 --> 00:15:15,138 Everybody feels tired when they wake up. 339 00:15:15,140 --> 00:15:16,406 I mean, why is it different for you? 340 00:15:16,408 --> 00:15:18,441 Mine's all day, every day, 341 00:15:18,443 --> 00:15:20,643 like I haven't slept for weeks. 342 00:15:20,645 --> 00:15:22,879 Now, are you on any medication that might make you tired? 343 00:15:22,881 --> 00:15:24,047 - No. - All right, 344 00:15:24,049 --> 00:15:25,381 so what do you think caused that feeling? 345 00:15:25,383 --> 00:15:26,783 I think it was the house. 346 00:15:26,785 --> 00:15:29,886 Do you think whatever's here is dangerous? Yes. 347 00:15:29,888 --> 00:15:32,455 Scratching my daughter, Donovan going through everything... 348 00:15:32,457 --> 00:15:34,090 Someone's gonna get hurt bad. 349 00:15:34,092 --> 00:15:35,792 It scares me every day. 350 00:15:35,794 --> 00:15:38,795 - How you holding it together? - By a thread now. 351 00:15:38,797 --> 00:15:42,532 It's tough when you don't know what to do or how to help. 352 00:15:45,203 --> 00:15:47,170 Person in here is being assaulted 353 00:15:47,172 --> 00:15:49,939 by the elderly child man. 354 00:15:49,941 --> 00:15:51,608 This is a living woman. 355 00:15:51,610 --> 00:15:53,343 What exactly is he doing to her? 356 00:15:53,345 --> 00:15:59,015 The child old man is sucking her energy out of her. 357 00:15:59,017 --> 00:16:00,250 How does that affect her? 358 00:16:00,252 --> 00:16:02,418 It feels like choking, 359 00:16:02,420 --> 00:16:04,387 something standing on her chest, 360 00:16:04,389 --> 00:16:06,022 can't catch her breath, 361 00:16:06,024 --> 00:16:08,992 gagging, coughing. 362 00:16:11,463 --> 00:16:13,229 So this person is sick. 363 00:16:13,231 --> 00:16:15,431 They're getting sicker and sicker and sicker. 364 00:16:15,433 --> 00:16:18,768 This person is probably a physical medium, 365 00:16:18,770 --> 00:16:21,171 but they're not open to their abilities right now 366 00:16:21,173 --> 00:16:23,339 because they're sick. 367 00:16:23,341 --> 00:16:25,108 He's trying to kill them. 368 00:16:25,110 --> 00:16:27,010 They're probably gonna die. 369 00:16:40,182 --> 00:16:41,882 Most of the time, my clients don't know anything 370 00:16:41,884 --> 00:16:43,550 about the history of their property. 371 00:16:43,552 --> 00:16:45,886 But in this case, Scott thinks there was a suicide 372 00:16:45,888 --> 00:16:47,321 that took place right in his house. 373 00:16:47,323 --> 00:16:50,257 So I had a local PI look into it for me. 374 00:16:50,259 --> 00:16:52,259 He says not only is it true, 375 00:16:52,261 --> 00:16:54,895 but it's also one of the saddest things to happen to this town 376 00:16:54,897 --> 00:16:56,563 in over a half a century. 377 00:17:02,605 --> 00:17:04,738 What can you tell me about this guy that committed suicide? 378 00:17:04,740 --> 00:17:08,141 His name was Robert Lucas, born in 1927. 379 00:17:11,614 --> 00:17:13,614 Mr. Lucas was 60 years old 380 00:17:13,616 --> 00:17:17,217 when he bought your client's house in 1987. 381 00:17:17,219 --> 00:17:18,886 Did you find out anything about his life 382 00:17:18,888 --> 00:17:21,121 that could explain why he killed himself? 383 00:17:21,123 --> 00:17:22,856 Well, Lucas married his first wife. 384 00:17:22,858 --> 00:17:24,591 Her name was Joyce Cameron. 385 00:17:24,593 --> 00:17:29,162 In 1952, she died at age 45 of throat cancer. 386 00:17:29,164 --> 00:17:31,431 And here's the death certificate for Joyce. 387 00:17:31,433 --> 00:17:34,201 She died in 1978. 388 00:17:34,203 --> 00:17:36,103 - Does he remarry? - Yep. 389 00:17:36,105 --> 00:17:38,472 About 10 years later, he marries his second wife. 390 00:17:38,474 --> 00:17:40,040 Her name is Stella. 391 00:17:40,042 --> 00:17:43,143 She was 33 years old. 392 00:17:43,145 --> 00:17:44,778 He was 60. 393 00:17:44,780 --> 00:17:46,546 Okay. 394 00:17:46,548 --> 00:17:49,283 Shortly after Lucas married his second wife, 395 00:17:49,285 --> 00:17:51,184 they moved into your client's home. 396 00:17:51,186 --> 00:17:52,920 All right, so now he's married to a much younger woman. 397 00:17:52,922 --> 00:17:55,555 - How's it go? - Not so well. 398 00:17:55,557 --> 00:17:58,325 And after 5 years of marriage, Stella left him. 399 00:17:58,327 --> 00:18:01,528 All right, so he's basically at my client's house alone. 400 00:18:01,530 --> 00:18:04,264 Yes. I think about 5 months after she left, 401 00:18:04,266 --> 00:18:05,899 he committed suicide. 402 00:18:05,901 --> 00:18:07,334 All right. So how does he kill himself? 403 00:18:07,336 --> 00:18:09,102 The morning of January 5, 1993, 404 00:18:09,104 --> 00:18:12,072 he goes back into his bedroom. 405 00:18:12,074 --> 00:18:15,208 He laid down in his bed and he shot himself in the chest. 406 00:18:15,210 --> 00:18:16,977 - In the chest? - Yes. 407 00:18:16,979 --> 00:18:19,146 That's usually rare for a man to do that. 408 00:18:19,148 --> 00:18:20,814 And that was the official cause of death? 409 00:18:20,816 --> 00:18:22,382 Yes, gunshot wound to the thorax. 410 00:18:22,384 --> 00:18:25,218 It's here on his death certificate. 411 00:18:25,220 --> 00:18:26,920 Okay. 412 00:18:26,922 --> 00:18:30,324 It looks like the heartache finally got to him. 413 00:18:30,326 --> 00:18:32,859 Yes. 414 00:18:35,130 --> 00:18:37,965 I, like, feel really horrible. 415 00:18:37,967 --> 00:18:41,501 Sick and dizzy and... 416 00:18:41,503 --> 00:18:43,971 bad. Like, not good. 417 00:18:43,973 --> 00:18:46,606 It's weird. It feels like somebody died in here. 418 00:18:49,878 --> 00:18:54,381 Feels like death and horrible, ill sickness. 419 00:18:56,352 --> 00:18:57,818 Very bad. 420 00:19:00,255 --> 00:19:02,789 I think I'm feeling the death of the evil little kid 421 00:19:02,791 --> 00:19:05,993 who can transform into the creepy old man. 422 00:19:05,995 --> 00:19:09,296 And the boy did live here 423 00:19:09,298 --> 00:19:10,964 at some point. 424 00:19:10,966 --> 00:19:14,034 But he lived to be old. 425 00:19:14,036 --> 00:19:17,004 He shows himself when he was little and he was, like, 5. 426 00:19:17,006 --> 00:19:19,973 And that was, like, in the 1920s. 427 00:19:21,410 --> 00:19:23,443 I don't think he died until, like, the 1980s 428 00:19:23,445 --> 00:19:26,346 or, like, the 1990s. 429 00:19:30,285 --> 00:19:31,985 One thing keeps nagging at me. 430 00:19:31,987 --> 00:19:33,453 Everyone in the house is complaining about 431 00:19:33,455 --> 00:19:35,522 banging and clanking sounds. 432 00:19:35,524 --> 00:19:37,691 Of course, they think it's the paranormal. 433 00:19:37,693 --> 00:19:41,428 But the house is old and I think it could just be bad plumbing. 434 00:19:41,430 --> 00:19:43,530 I'm headed back to Scott's property to meet a plumber 435 00:19:43,532 --> 00:19:45,766 who's going to give the place a full inspection. 436 00:19:51,373 --> 00:19:52,873 - How you doing, Landon? - Good. How are you doing? 437 00:19:52,875 --> 00:19:55,308 Good, good. Thanks for meeting me. I appreciate that. 438 00:19:55,310 --> 00:19:56,643 So this is the deal. 439 00:19:56,645 --> 00:19:58,078 My clients here are complaining 440 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:00,013 about banging and clanking in the walls. 441 00:20:00,015 --> 00:20:02,249 Now, in your experience, have you come across 442 00:20:02,251 --> 00:20:04,051 pipes making those kinds of noises? 443 00:20:06,755 --> 00:20:08,755 Okay. So if you could, do me a favor 444 00:20:08,757 --> 00:20:10,791 and see if the pipes can be making those noises? 445 00:20:10,793 --> 00:20:12,092 - Okay. We can do it. - Okay. 446 00:20:12,094 --> 00:20:14,194 - I'll get my tool bag. - Okay, great. 447 00:20:18,067 --> 00:20:19,232 With all the strange sounds 448 00:20:19,234 --> 00:20:20,434 Scott and his family are hearing, 449 00:20:20,436 --> 00:20:23,270 I know I have to rule out the obvious first. 450 00:20:25,808 --> 00:20:28,275 And if there isn't a physical explanation... 451 00:20:31,413 --> 00:20:34,381 ...our only hope for answers will have to come from Amy. 452 00:20:34,383 --> 00:20:36,683 - What'd you find? - Nothing. 453 00:20:36,685 --> 00:20:38,618 Okay, so nothing you saw could explain 454 00:20:38,620 --> 00:20:40,187 the noises the clients are hearing? 455 00:20:40,189 --> 00:20:41,521 - No, sir. - All right. 456 00:20:41,523 --> 00:20:42,689 Well, I appreciate your hard work. 457 00:20:42,691 --> 00:20:45,092 - Thank you so much. - Yeah, you're welcome. 458 00:20:52,067 --> 00:20:54,768 The kid, he's creepy. 459 00:20:54,770 --> 00:20:58,338 I asked him if he haunted the place, and he laughed at me. 460 00:20:58,340 --> 00:21:02,509 He's the reason those old dead couples are trapped here. 461 00:21:02,511 --> 00:21:05,745 And they, like, bump into the walls 462 00:21:05,747 --> 00:21:08,782 because their minds are gone. 463 00:21:08,784 --> 00:21:10,484 The living people would hear that. 464 00:21:10,486 --> 00:21:13,887 So they'd hear, like, people walking into the walls. 465 00:21:16,091 --> 00:21:18,859 This kid, he's not good. 466 00:21:18,861 --> 00:21:21,161 I don't like him. 467 00:21:26,668 --> 00:21:28,001 If you need us to investigate 468 00:21:28,003 --> 00:21:29,903 unexplained activity in your home, 469 00:21:29,905 --> 00:21:32,873 go to "The Dead Files" page at travelchannel.com. 470 00:21:32,875 --> 00:21:34,808 Click on "Help me, Dead Files!" and submit your story, 471 00:21:34,810 --> 00:21:35,976 and we'll help if we can. 472 00:21:44,886 --> 00:21:47,587 So far, I've got a family living in fear 473 00:21:47,589 --> 00:21:49,456 on a property where a previous owner 474 00:21:49,458 --> 00:21:51,725 committed suicide in the house. 475 00:21:51,727 --> 00:21:53,927 But I want to see if there's anything else. 476 00:21:56,298 --> 00:21:58,064 Searching through old records, I come across 477 00:21:58,066 --> 00:22:00,734 another former property owner named Henry Pfost. 478 00:22:00,736 --> 00:22:03,403 Turns out Henry's mother was one of the victims 479 00:22:03,405 --> 00:22:05,372 of a brutal triple homicide 480 00:22:05,374 --> 00:22:08,642 right near Scott and Wendy's house. 481 00:22:08,644 --> 00:22:10,944 I'm headed out to meet my old buddy Jim Casto, 482 00:22:10,946 --> 00:22:13,580 who looked into this case for me. 483 00:22:13,582 --> 00:22:15,782 Now he says this was the bloodiest homicide 484 00:22:15,784 --> 00:22:17,117 in this town's history. 485 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:19,686 And when it came time for justice to be served, 486 00:22:19,688 --> 00:22:22,289 people traveled from miles around to see it. 487 00:22:26,995 --> 00:22:30,063 Jim, thanks for meeting me again. I appreciate that. 488 00:22:30,065 --> 00:22:31,498 Now I know one of the victims 489 00:22:31,500 --> 00:22:33,633 of this homicide was the mother of Henry Pfost, 490 00:22:33,635 --> 00:22:35,368 who owned my client's property. 491 00:22:35,370 --> 00:22:36,836 What do you know about this woman? 492 00:22:36,838 --> 00:22:40,240 In 1891, Henry's mother, Chloe, 493 00:22:40,242 --> 00:22:43,610 adopted a 16-year-old orphan boy 494 00:22:43,612 --> 00:22:45,979 by the name of John Morgan. 495 00:22:45,981 --> 00:22:50,950 She treated him as if he were her own son. 496 00:22:50,952 --> 00:22:54,587 And her other children -- James, Matilda, and Alice -- 497 00:22:54,589 --> 00:22:59,059 also looked on him as simply their other brother. 498 00:22:59,061 --> 00:23:01,995 - They raised him for 6 years. - Okay. 499 00:23:01,997 --> 00:23:05,265 Then he got married, got his own place nearby. 500 00:23:05,267 --> 00:23:10,136 But he still frequently was a visitor at the home. 501 00:23:10,138 --> 00:23:12,972 Okay, so walk me through the murder. What happened? 502 00:23:12,974 --> 00:23:17,444 Well, Morgan had learned that Chloe had sold a valuable horse 503 00:23:17,446 --> 00:23:19,479 for a tidy sum of money. 504 00:23:19,481 --> 00:23:24,117 And so he arranged to visit the farm and stay the night. 505 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:25,752 Okay, I can see where this is going. 506 00:23:25,754 --> 00:23:30,323 He clearly intended to lay his hands on that money. 507 00:23:30,325 --> 00:23:33,593 The next morning Chloe's son, James, 508 00:23:33,595 --> 00:23:36,563 went out early to feed the animals. 509 00:23:36,565 --> 00:23:40,500 John Morgan followed him, took a pickax, 510 00:23:40,502 --> 00:23:42,702 hit him several times in the head, 511 00:23:42,704 --> 00:23:44,904 then grabbed a large rock 512 00:23:44,906 --> 00:23:47,340 and crushed his skull with it. 513 00:23:47,342 --> 00:23:50,744 He went into the house then, picked up a hatchet, 514 00:23:50,746 --> 00:23:53,012 and attacked the two sisters. 515 00:23:53,014 --> 00:23:56,015 Killed Matilda outright. 516 00:23:56,017 --> 00:23:58,852 Gravely injured Alice. 517 00:23:58,854 --> 00:24:01,821 At that point, he turned his attention to Chloe. 518 00:24:01,823 --> 00:24:04,157 Broke down her bedroom door, 519 00:24:04,159 --> 00:24:06,326 took his hatchet, and attacked her. 520 00:24:06,328 --> 00:24:09,763 Eventually she made it out to the front porch, 521 00:24:09,765 --> 00:24:12,332 where he hit her a fatal blow 522 00:24:12,334 --> 00:24:15,869 and she collapsed in a pool of blood. 523 00:24:22,043 --> 00:24:23,543 I see two males here. 524 00:24:23,545 --> 00:24:26,346 I'm not exactly getting brothers, 525 00:24:26,348 --> 00:24:30,150 but it's like brothers or something. 526 00:24:30,152 --> 00:24:34,854 One's here and then gone, and then here and then gone. 527 00:24:34,856 --> 00:24:38,291 One of them is not good. Bad, bad, bad. 528 00:24:39,494 --> 00:24:42,962 I'm hearing a woman scream. 529 00:24:44,499 --> 00:24:47,400 And I hear a man say, 530 00:24:47,402 --> 00:24:48,735 "Shut up, bitch!" 531 00:24:48,737 --> 00:24:50,970 And then I heard a nasty cracking, 532 00:24:50,972 --> 00:24:54,374 like a mushy, wet sound. 533 00:24:54,376 --> 00:24:56,376 And then she stops. 534 00:24:56,378 --> 00:24:57,877 So obviously he killed her. 535 00:25:01,683 --> 00:25:03,383 Okay, so we got three dead, 536 00:25:03,385 --> 00:25:05,885 one daughter who survives, and our perp on the loose. 537 00:25:05,887 --> 00:25:07,020 What happens next? 538 00:25:07,022 --> 00:25:10,757 They made quick work of tracking down Morgan. 539 00:25:10,759 --> 00:25:14,561 The authorities feared that Morgan might be lynched, 540 00:25:14,563 --> 00:25:17,630 so they put him on trial the very next day. 541 00:25:17,632 --> 00:25:20,834 The trial was quick, and it took the jury 542 00:25:20,836 --> 00:25:25,205 just an hour to come back with a guilty verdict. 543 00:25:25,207 --> 00:25:28,308 The headline on this newspaper article from the time 544 00:25:28,310 --> 00:25:30,376 is "Swift Justice." 545 00:25:30,378 --> 00:25:33,446 And that's certainly what was unfolding here. 546 00:25:33,448 --> 00:25:35,448 So what happens next? 547 00:25:35,450 --> 00:25:38,184 On December 16, they marched Morgan 548 00:25:38,186 --> 00:25:40,553 from the jail to a gallows 549 00:25:40,555 --> 00:25:44,224 that had been especially built for the occasion. 550 00:25:44,226 --> 00:25:49,662 It was only 1,700 feet from the home you're investigating. 551 00:25:49,664 --> 00:25:50,830 Really? 552 00:25:50,832 --> 00:25:52,599 On the day of execution, 553 00:25:52,601 --> 00:25:55,969 they had a crowd that was estimated at 10,000. 554 00:25:55,971 --> 00:26:00,640 There was a circus-like atmosphere in town that day. 555 00:26:00,642 --> 00:26:04,577 At 12:05, the trap door was sprung, 556 00:26:04,579 --> 00:26:08,081 and Morgan fell to his death, 557 00:26:08,083 --> 00:26:09,983 paid for his crimes. 558 00:26:15,390 --> 00:26:17,624 I'm in a crowd of people, okay? 559 00:26:17,626 --> 00:26:20,426 And it's pitch-black, and I can just feel bodies, 560 00:26:20,428 --> 00:26:22,161 you know, up against me. 561 00:26:22,163 --> 00:26:25,431 And I know there's a crowd. There's a bunch of people there. 562 00:26:27,435 --> 00:26:29,235 I don't know what the [bleep] was going on. 563 00:26:29,237 --> 00:26:31,671 And I'm hearing men and women screaming. 564 00:26:31,673 --> 00:26:34,541 There's panic and chaos, and it's pitch-black, 565 00:26:34,543 --> 00:26:36,209 and then it feels like I'm falling. 566 00:26:36,211 --> 00:26:38,444 I'm falling in the darkness. 567 00:26:47,122 --> 00:26:49,422 I saw several disturbing things on my walk, 568 00:26:49,424 --> 00:26:52,725 but the evil kid who can transform into a creepy old man 569 00:26:52,727 --> 00:26:55,261 had me the most concerned. 570 00:26:55,263 --> 00:26:56,596 I was in a bedroom. 571 00:26:56,598 --> 00:26:58,965 There was a person in the bed. 572 00:26:58,967 --> 00:27:01,301 This elderly male, 573 00:27:01,303 --> 00:27:05,705 he's attempting to suck the life force 574 00:27:05,707 --> 00:27:09,208 out of the person's mouth and into his hands. 575 00:27:12,847 --> 00:27:15,281 Amy, is this what you saw? 576 00:27:15,283 --> 00:27:17,550 Yes, that's what I saw. 577 00:27:35,871 --> 00:27:38,472 Now that Amy and I have completed our investigations, 578 00:27:38,474 --> 00:27:41,108 we're ready to reveal our findings to each other 579 00:27:41,110 --> 00:27:43,810 and our clients for the first time. 580 00:27:43,812 --> 00:27:46,146 So, Amy, I'd like you to meet Scott and Wendy. 581 00:27:46,148 --> 00:27:47,881 They moved into this house about a year and a half ago 582 00:27:47,883 --> 00:27:50,017 with their three kids. 583 00:27:50,019 --> 00:27:52,586 Got a photo of the kids here. 584 00:27:52,588 --> 00:27:54,121 This is Donovan, who's 15, 585 00:27:54,123 --> 00:27:57,057 Kayden, who's 12, and Lacey, who's 10. 586 00:27:57,059 --> 00:28:00,227 For 6 months, they were fine here. Everything was good. 587 00:28:00,229 --> 00:28:01,461 But then the next door neighbor's house 588 00:28:01,463 --> 00:28:03,330 burnt down to the ground. 589 00:28:03,332 --> 00:28:05,465 And since that day, activity has gotten violent 590 00:28:05,467 --> 00:28:06,933 and out of control. 591 00:28:06,935 --> 00:28:09,036 Wendy and the kids are being attacked, 592 00:28:09,038 --> 00:28:12,072 and Scott thinks that nobody in the house is safe. 593 00:28:12,074 --> 00:28:14,107 So now that Amy knows a little bit about you guys, 594 00:28:14,109 --> 00:28:15,375 I'm going to ask her to describe her walk. 595 00:28:19,548 --> 00:28:21,982 When I first got here, 596 00:28:21,984 --> 00:28:25,018 I heard a woman. 597 00:28:25,020 --> 00:28:28,922 She was screaming and freaking out. 598 00:28:28,924 --> 00:28:31,458 And then I heard a male, 599 00:28:31,460 --> 00:28:34,661 and he told her to "Shut up, bitch." 600 00:28:34,663 --> 00:28:37,731 And then I heard, like, this mushy, 601 00:28:37,733 --> 00:28:41,101 uh, cracking, wet sound. 602 00:28:41,103 --> 00:28:46,173 I knew that he had, you know, killed her. 603 00:28:46,175 --> 00:28:48,208 That's not a lot to go on, but you did say 604 00:28:48,210 --> 00:28:50,944 that the man you thought killed the woman. 605 00:28:50,946 --> 00:28:52,279 Correct. 606 00:28:52,281 --> 00:28:55,615 Back in 1897, there was a brutal, brutal triple homicide 607 00:28:55,617 --> 00:28:56,950 just down the road from here. 608 00:28:56,952 --> 00:28:59,252 The victims were a woman named Chloe Pfost 609 00:28:59,254 --> 00:29:00,954 and two of her kids. 610 00:29:00,956 --> 00:29:05,058 - This is Chloe, the mother. - Huh. 611 00:29:05,060 --> 00:29:07,594 And get this -- at the time of the murders, 612 00:29:07,596 --> 00:29:10,230 one of her sons lived right on your land. 613 00:29:10,232 --> 00:29:13,567 Now six years earlier, Chloe took in 614 00:29:13,569 --> 00:29:17,270 a 16-year-old orphan named John Morgan. 615 00:29:17,272 --> 00:29:19,306 This is John Morgan. 616 00:29:21,710 --> 00:29:25,645 Now, the expert I talked to said Chloe treated Morgan like a son. 617 00:29:25,647 --> 00:29:28,014 Now Morgan grew up and moved off the property. 618 00:29:28,016 --> 00:29:29,816 In November of 1897, 619 00:29:29,818 --> 00:29:32,986 Chloe sold a high-priced horse for some money. 620 00:29:32,988 --> 00:29:34,554 It seems like John Morgan heard about it, 621 00:29:34,556 --> 00:29:36,957 and he came here that night hoping to rob the family. 622 00:29:36,959 --> 00:29:39,926 He didn't get away with any money, 623 00:29:39,928 --> 00:29:42,662 but he did kill three of the four people in the house. 624 00:29:42,664 --> 00:29:46,032 Now, he started out by killing Chloe's son, James, 625 00:29:46,034 --> 00:29:47,634 with a pickax and a rock. 626 00:29:47,636 --> 00:29:49,970 Then he went inside and attacked the two sisters. 627 00:29:49,972 --> 00:29:51,571 Matilda died right away, 628 00:29:51,573 --> 00:29:55,142 and he thought he killed Alice, but she actually escaped. 629 00:29:55,144 --> 00:29:56,743 The expert I talked to said 630 00:29:56,745 --> 00:29:58,478 that Chloe was the last to get killed. 631 00:29:58,480 --> 00:29:59,880 He basically grabbed her, 632 00:29:59,882 --> 00:30:01,948 hit her in the head with a hatchet, 633 00:30:01,950 --> 00:30:05,252 and left her for dead in a pool of blood on the front porch. 634 00:30:05,254 --> 00:30:08,054 He was convicted of the murders and sentenced to hang. 635 00:30:08,056 --> 00:30:11,591 They built the gallows 1,700 feet from here. 636 00:30:11,593 --> 00:30:14,928 Over 10,000 people showed up to watch the guy hang. 637 00:30:14,930 --> 00:30:18,165 Just after noon, on December 16, 1897, 638 00:30:18,167 --> 00:30:22,068 trap door opened and this guy fell to his death. 639 00:30:22,070 --> 00:30:24,438 You think this homicide is what you were picking up on? 640 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:25,872 Yeah. 641 00:30:25,874 --> 00:30:30,076 She looks very, very much like the woman who was screaming. 642 00:30:33,081 --> 00:30:35,415 Okay, so what else did you see on your walk? 643 00:30:35,417 --> 00:30:38,418 When I went in the back bedroom, by the bathroom... 644 00:30:38,420 --> 00:30:40,487 Okay, that's where Donovan sleeps. 645 00:30:40,489 --> 00:30:42,456 I saw a young, living male, 646 00:30:42,458 --> 00:30:45,258 and I got that he's an organic witch. 647 00:30:45,260 --> 00:30:49,129 Now what that means is that typically 648 00:30:49,131 --> 00:30:54,067 it's an individual who has abilities. 649 00:30:54,069 --> 00:30:58,438 So he unconsciously is able to protect himself. 650 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,308 He puts up a protective wall in his room. 651 00:31:01,310 --> 00:31:04,444 The only problem is, is that he is young, 652 00:31:04,446 --> 00:31:07,080 and even if you protect yourself, 653 00:31:07,082 --> 00:31:08,849 you're not bulletproof. 654 00:31:08,851 --> 00:31:13,220 You are still open to random attacks. 655 00:31:13,222 --> 00:31:14,688 Probably seems like a good time to tell you 656 00:31:14,690 --> 00:31:17,557 that Donovan is one of the main reasons we were called in. 657 00:31:17,559 --> 00:31:19,125 - Okay. - You know, Wendy, 658 00:31:19,127 --> 00:31:21,928 why don't you tell Amy a little bit about Donovan? 659 00:31:21,930 --> 00:31:25,232 He all of a sudden just started acting funny. 660 00:31:25,234 --> 00:31:27,200 He's came into the kitchen 661 00:31:27,202 --> 00:31:29,870 and his pupils was fully dilated. 662 00:31:29,872 --> 00:31:32,239 He turned around, walked back to his room, 663 00:31:32,241 --> 00:31:35,208 and just started crying and says, "Make it stop." 664 00:31:35,210 --> 00:31:38,445 Now, Scott, tell Amy how he doesn't want to leave that room. 665 00:31:38,447 --> 00:31:43,049 We go out to leave or anything, it irritates him. 666 00:31:43,051 --> 00:31:44,818 I mean, it doesn't matter where we go. 667 00:31:44,820 --> 00:31:46,486 He's gotta come back. 668 00:31:46,488 --> 00:31:49,589 And once he's in that room, he says he feels more secure. 669 00:31:49,591 --> 00:31:52,692 Has he had any rage episodes or anything like that? 670 00:31:52,694 --> 00:31:53,894 He could be fine. 671 00:31:53,896 --> 00:31:55,395 The next thing you know, he'll snap at you. 672 00:31:55,397 --> 00:31:57,564 Like, jump at you. 673 00:31:57,566 --> 00:31:59,266 And that's not my son. 674 00:31:59,268 --> 00:32:02,369 None of that is unusual for somebody with abilities. 675 00:32:05,507 --> 00:32:07,641 Well it runs through your family. 676 00:32:10,412 --> 00:32:11,845 Okay, so what else? 677 00:32:11,847 --> 00:32:14,347 I was in that room. 678 00:32:14,349 --> 00:32:15,782 Now that's Lacey's room. 679 00:32:15,784 --> 00:32:17,684 I met this individual, 680 00:32:17,686 --> 00:32:21,888 and he was walking towards me and he was a priest. 681 00:32:21,890 --> 00:32:28,361 Then he turned into, like, a stereotypical Satan character. 682 00:32:28,363 --> 00:32:32,532 I figured out, finally, that he's some kind of a demon. 683 00:32:32,534 --> 00:32:34,734 He is extremely active in that room 684 00:32:34,736 --> 00:32:37,370 because he likes to torture her. 685 00:32:37,372 --> 00:32:39,306 He is always watching. 686 00:32:39,308 --> 00:32:43,343 So I think the living would obviously feel watched. 687 00:32:43,345 --> 00:32:44,644 He gives her nightmares. 688 00:32:44,646 --> 00:32:47,314 I saw lots of screaming with her. 689 00:32:47,316 --> 00:32:50,016 One of the things I saw him doing 690 00:32:50,018 --> 00:32:53,687 was trying to smack her on the back of the head. 691 00:32:53,689 --> 00:32:55,589 Well, there's a lot going on in Lacey's room 692 00:32:55,591 --> 00:32:56,856 that we need to talk about. 693 00:32:56,858 --> 00:32:58,558 Scott, why don't you tell her how Lacey feels 694 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:00,126 like she has a presence in her room? 695 00:33:00,128 --> 00:33:03,063 She keeps saying somebody is watching her. 696 00:33:03,065 --> 00:33:05,165 Like they don't want her in there. 697 00:33:05,167 --> 00:33:06,466 Now, she mentioned nightmares. 698 00:33:06,468 --> 00:33:09,936 Lacey's had several nightmares, yeah. 699 00:33:09,938 --> 00:33:12,272 I've caught her crying in her sleep. 700 00:33:12,274 --> 00:33:14,074 And she sit up in the middle of the bed 701 00:33:14,076 --> 00:33:15,275 in the middle of the night 702 00:33:15,277 --> 00:33:17,077 and she just starts screaming in her sleep. 703 00:33:17,079 --> 00:33:19,546 Wendy, you've had nightmares too, right? 704 00:33:19,548 --> 00:33:22,616 I was deep sleep one night. 705 00:33:22,618 --> 00:33:26,219 Get woke up to a man screaming in my ear. 706 00:33:26,221 --> 00:33:27,454 He says, "Get up! 707 00:33:27,456 --> 00:33:29,089 What the [bleep] are you doing sleeping?" 708 00:33:29,091 --> 00:33:30,790 Mm-hmm. 709 00:33:30,792 --> 00:33:33,960 The other thing that got me worried was 710 00:33:33,962 --> 00:33:35,328 the scratches. 711 00:33:35,330 --> 00:33:36,896 - Yes. - Tell Amy what happened. 712 00:33:36,898 --> 00:33:38,798 She was taking a shower. 713 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:43,870 She came out and she says she felt a burning on her... 714 00:33:43,872 --> 00:33:46,106 across her chest here. 715 00:33:46,108 --> 00:33:49,342 And you pulled her shirt and there was scratches, like, 716 00:33:49,344 --> 00:33:52,746 from here that just went up. 717 00:33:52,748 --> 00:33:54,314 I actually have a photo of it. 718 00:33:54,316 --> 00:33:57,417 - Mm. - This is the scratches. 719 00:33:57,419 --> 00:33:59,019 Okay. 720 00:33:59,021 --> 00:34:01,821 Okay, so now all the experiences that she's having, 721 00:34:01,823 --> 00:34:04,190 or had in that bedroom, is from this devil guy. 722 00:34:04,192 --> 00:34:07,160 Yes. He likes to torture her. 723 00:34:10,198 --> 00:34:14,701 The next dead person I met has me very concerned. 724 00:34:14,703 --> 00:34:18,471 There's an elderly man and, initially when I met him, 725 00:34:18,473 --> 00:34:22,809 he presented as a child about 5 years of age. 726 00:34:22,811 --> 00:34:26,946 And he is a very substantial problem here. 727 00:34:26,948 --> 00:34:30,417 He flips back and forth between being this 5-year-old child, 728 00:34:30,419 --> 00:34:33,920 which apparently he was that age in the '20s, 729 00:34:33,922 --> 00:34:37,290 and turning into a very elderly male 730 00:34:37,292 --> 00:34:42,862 who, I think, died in the 1980s or the 1990s. 731 00:34:42,864 --> 00:34:46,099 And it was indicated to me that he had lived here 732 00:34:46,101 --> 00:34:48,001 at some point in time. 733 00:34:48,003 --> 00:34:50,170 That's really not a lot to go on either. 734 00:34:50,172 --> 00:34:52,906 One guy came up in my research that stands out. 735 00:34:52,908 --> 00:34:54,107 His name was Robert Lucas, 736 00:34:54,109 --> 00:34:55,709 and he bought this house in 1987. 737 00:34:55,711 --> 00:34:58,211 I have a photo of him here. 738 00:35:00,982 --> 00:35:04,017 Now you said the guy you saw was 5 years old in the 1920s? 739 00:35:04,019 --> 00:35:06,853 Lucas here was born in 1927, so he would have been 5 740 00:35:06,855 --> 00:35:09,522 in the early '30s, which is pretty close. 741 00:35:09,524 --> 00:35:12,492 Yeah. Lucas here went through a messy divorce 742 00:35:12,494 --> 00:35:14,861 5 years after moving in here. 743 00:35:14,863 --> 00:35:16,896 After that, he fell into a deep depression. 744 00:35:16,898 --> 00:35:18,698 Now you said the guy died in the '80s or '90s. 745 00:35:18,700 --> 00:35:20,667 Well, get this. 746 00:35:20,669 --> 00:35:24,437 On January 5, 1993, he laid down in his bed, 747 00:35:24,439 --> 00:35:27,507 put a pistol to his chest, and shot himself. 748 00:35:27,509 --> 00:35:29,642 I've got his death certificate right here. 749 00:35:31,747 --> 00:35:33,680 And he died in this house? 750 00:35:33,682 --> 00:35:36,516 Right in their bedroom. 751 00:35:36,518 --> 00:35:39,853 Now you think Lucas is the guy you probably saw? 752 00:35:39,855 --> 00:35:41,087 Yes, I do. 753 00:35:41,089 --> 00:35:44,791 One of the things that really creeped me out 754 00:35:44,793 --> 00:35:47,827 was his movements along the hallway. 755 00:35:47,829 --> 00:35:53,166 I would assume that, at times, you guys would hear this. 756 00:35:53,168 --> 00:35:54,834 I've gotten woken up in the middle of the night 757 00:35:54,836 --> 00:35:56,269 with knocking on the walls. 758 00:35:56,271 --> 00:35:57,804 Oh, Scott, you've heard it too, right? 759 00:35:57,806 --> 00:35:59,572 Yes, I have. I've heard knocking. 760 00:35:59,574 --> 00:36:01,741 When Scott and Wendy told me they were hearing these things, 761 00:36:01,743 --> 00:36:03,243 I thought it sounded like 762 00:36:03,245 --> 00:36:05,678 they could have rusty pipes or bad plumbing. 763 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:07,781 So I had a plumber come in to check the place out. 764 00:36:07,783 --> 00:36:08,982 Mm-hmm. 765 00:36:08,984 --> 00:36:11,217 And he said no way it could be that. 766 00:36:11,219 --> 00:36:12,652 This guy do anything else? 767 00:36:12,654 --> 00:36:17,357 I thought maybe you would see him because he's solid. 768 00:36:17,359 --> 00:36:20,093 He stretches and turns his face, 769 00:36:20,095 --> 00:36:22,929 where he looks not human, really. 770 00:36:22,931 --> 00:36:24,998 He has a hunch. 771 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:28,334 It's extremely disturbing. 772 00:36:28,336 --> 00:36:31,671 Now he and Lacey have both seen an old man. 773 00:36:31,673 --> 00:36:33,840 He's got, like, peppered hair. 774 00:36:33,842 --> 00:36:36,910 His nose is wider and his ears, 775 00:36:36,912 --> 00:36:39,179 they're kind of sticking out a little bit. 776 00:36:39,181 --> 00:36:43,483 The thing that he causes living people to experience 777 00:36:43,485 --> 00:36:45,118 is trouble breathing, 778 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,487 feeling like they're being choked, 779 00:36:47,489 --> 00:36:50,623 and he does this because he's a psychic vampire. 780 00:36:50,625 --> 00:36:54,294 People who are psychic vampires will often feed off 781 00:36:54,296 --> 00:36:57,363 of the living energy of people around them. 782 00:36:57,365 --> 00:36:59,966 Okay? And unfortunately it makes 783 00:36:59,968 --> 00:37:02,769 everybody around them kind of sick. 784 00:37:02,771 --> 00:37:04,237 Wendy, do me a favor. 785 00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:06,739 Explain to Amy exactly how you feel when you're drained. 786 00:37:06,741 --> 00:37:08,675 It's like I've never slept. 787 00:37:11,847 --> 00:37:13,847 Sick to my stomach constantly. 788 00:37:13,849 --> 00:37:15,114 I wake up in the middle of the night 789 00:37:15,116 --> 00:37:16,149 and it's hard to breathe. 790 00:37:16,151 --> 00:37:19,452 I just don't feel like myself at all. 791 00:37:19,454 --> 00:37:21,855 Now is this something that this old guy could be doing? 792 00:37:21,857 --> 00:37:25,191 Yes. Absolutely, yes. 793 00:37:25,193 --> 00:37:28,528 So the person who is getting attacked the most 794 00:37:28,530 --> 00:37:30,296 by this elderly man 795 00:37:30,298 --> 00:37:33,166 is the person in that back bedroom. 796 00:37:33,168 --> 00:37:35,535 That's Wendy and Scott's bedroom. 797 00:37:35,537 --> 00:37:37,470 I had a sketch done of what I saw 798 00:37:37,472 --> 00:37:40,707 and what he was doing in that room. 799 00:37:42,844 --> 00:37:44,544 Oh,. 800 00:37:47,282 --> 00:37:50,283 No! 801 00:37:50,285 --> 00:37:51,751 - Wow. - Mm-hmm. 802 00:37:53,388 --> 00:37:56,522 This may explain a lot why you're not feeling well. 803 00:37:56,524 --> 00:37:58,391 Oh, my god. 804 00:38:04,799 --> 00:38:07,567 I would like to put my hands around it. 805 00:38:07,569 --> 00:38:09,369 Just can't. 806 00:38:09,371 --> 00:38:10,637 I was concerned over the kids. 807 00:38:10,639 --> 00:38:14,407 I didn't think that was coming after me. 808 00:38:14,409 --> 00:38:15,808 That's a nightmare. 809 00:38:15,810 --> 00:38:18,311 Worse than a nightmare. 810 00:38:18,313 --> 00:38:20,580 Any reason why he's picking on Wendy? 811 00:38:20,582 --> 00:38:23,549 I mean, I know that you have abilities. 812 00:38:23,551 --> 00:38:27,687 It's easier for these things to latch onto sensitives. 813 00:38:27,689 --> 00:38:34,093 My concern right now is that Wendy would die. 814 00:38:34,095 --> 00:38:37,363 Heart attack, sudden death. 815 00:38:54,758 --> 00:38:57,926 Well, Scott, Wendy, you were worried 816 00:38:57,928 --> 00:38:59,528 it wasn't safe here for you and the kids. 817 00:38:59,530 --> 00:39:01,563 And you were 100% right. 818 00:39:01,565 --> 00:39:04,333 But we haven't answered the big question. 819 00:39:04,335 --> 00:39:05,634 Is it fixable? 820 00:39:05,636 --> 00:39:07,869 Can you stay here safely, or do you have to pack up 821 00:39:07,871 --> 00:39:10,105 and get the hell out of here before it's too late? 822 00:39:10,107 --> 00:39:12,541 For that answer, I'm going to turn it over to Amy. 823 00:39:16,013 --> 00:39:17,846 There's a lot you have to do, 824 00:39:17,848 --> 00:39:20,716 so I first want to deal with the demon. 825 00:39:20,718 --> 00:39:22,617 There is a twofold process. 826 00:39:22,619 --> 00:39:27,789 The first thing is, go and find a Catholic priest. 827 00:39:27,791 --> 00:39:29,791 What you need this Catholic priest to do 828 00:39:29,793 --> 00:39:31,460 is to come to your home 829 00:39:31,462 --> 00:39:36,298 when you guys are not here and do a home blessing. 830 00:39:36,300 --> 00:39:38,800 The second thing is that this priest 831 00:39:38,802 --> 00:39:41,470 has to leave blessed crosses 832 00:39:41,472 --> 00:39:43,939 in every single room of this home. 833 00:39:43,941 --> 00:39:47,042 The blessing is going to get rid of that demon, 834 00:39:47,044 --> 00:39:49,344 and the crosses are going to prevent 835 00:39:49,346 --> 00:39:52,314 any of those others from coming in here. 836 00:39:52,316 --> 00:39:54,616 So the second thing is the old man. 837 00:39:54,618 --> 00:39:59,921 You have an elderly dead lunatic that needs to be removed. 838 00:39:59,923 --> 00:40:03,992 Get a very physically intimidating male 839 00:40:03,994 --> 00:40:05,460 who's a medium 840 00:40:05,462 --> 00:40:09,231 who is also in very good health. 841 00:40:09,233 --> 00:40:12,434 This guy is going to come here 842 00:40:12,436 --> 00:40:16,304 to engage and remove this elderly man. 843 00:40:16,306 --> 00:40:18,039 Now how soon will she start feeling better 844 00:40:18,041 --> 00:40:19,708 once Lucas is gone? 845 00:40:19,710 --> 00:40:25,247 Physically, you'll begin to feel 100% better. 846 00:40:26,917 --> 00:40:30,652 As for Donovan, typically when they're teenagers, 847 00:40:30,654 --> 00:40:33,321 all of their abilities, like, really become heightened. 848 00:40:33,323 --> 00:40:35,924 If you go out, say, to a busy place, 849 00:40:35,926 --> 00:40:39,494 it's going to literally overwhelm your senses. 850 00:40:39,496 --> 00:40:42,397 That's what your son is experiencing. 851 00:40:42,399 --> 00:40:43,865 That made me understand a lot 852 00:40:43,867 --> 00:40:46,435 why Donovan stays in his room now. 853 00:40:46,437 --> 00:40:48,804 He might always kind of be like that, 854 00:40:48,806 --> 00:40:53,508 but I think he should go and see a clinical psychologist 855 00:40:53,510 --> 00:40:55,811 or a psychiatrist 856 00:40:55,813 --> 00:40:59,714 to help him work through all of his thoughts and emotions. 857 00:40:59,716 --> 00:41:01,216 Yes, definitely. 858 00:41:01,218 --> 00:41:04,119 So to be clear, the house burning down next door 859 00:41:04,121 --> 00:41:06,388 had nothing to do with what these guys are going through? 860 00:41:06,390 --> 00:41:08,123 No. 861 00:41:08,125 --> 00:41:09,691 The question I'll always ask is, 862 00:41:09,693 --> 00:41:10,826 are you going to take her advice? 863 00:41:10,828 --> 00:41:12,394 Yes. I want it gone. 864 00:41:12,396 --> 00:41:14,596 Hearing this and knowing this could be done, 865 00:41:14,598 --> 00:41:17,699 it's going to help take care of the problem, I'm glad, 866 00:41:17,701 --> 00:41:20,469 'cause I can't lose my wife or my kids. 867 00:41:20,471 --> 00:41:21,837 I can't do that. 868 00:41:21,839 --> 00:41:24,673 Listen, I don't care if I have to do a million things. 869 00:41:24,675 --> 00:41:26,842 You know, you gave us what we wanted. 870 00:41:26,844 --> 00:41:29,077 We can have our life back. 871 00:41:32,149 --> 00:41:34,783 I really hope Wendy and Scott follow my advice 872 00:41:34,785 --> 00:41:37,652 and contact a priest and a medium to remove the dead 873 00:41:37,654 --> 00:41:40,288 and the demon terrorizing their family. 874 00:41:40,290 --> 00:41:42,924 Once they're gone, they'll all be safe, 875 00:41:42,926 --> 00:41:46,328 and this family will find the peace it's been looking for. 876 00:41:46,378 --> 00:41:50,928 Repair and Synchronization by Easy Subtitles Synchronizer 1.0.0.0 67080

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