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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:10,478 --> 00:00:13,412 Everyone is in jeopardy. 2 00:00:13,414 --> 00:00:16,582 She's, definitely, a serial killer. 3 00:00:16,584 --> 00:00:20,519 If somebody grabbed me in bed, I'd be running out the door. 4 00:00:20,521 --> 00:00:24,023 They wouldn't mind if there was never any living people here. 5 00:00:25,359 --> 00:00:28,794 That was the turning point. I wasn't a skeptic any more. 6 00:00:28,796 --> 00:00:31,430 She's completely insane. 7 00:00:31,432 --> 00:00:35,901 Everybody here is in danger. 8 00:00:35,903 --> 00:00:38,103 This seems like a possession. 9 00:00:38,105 --> 00:00:40,839 My name is Amy Allan. 10 00:00:40,841 --> 00:00:43,409 Everything was built on blood. 11 00:00:43,411 --> 00:00:44,777 I see dead people. 12 00:00:44,779 --> 00:00:46,078 Very disturbing. 13 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:48,380 I speak to dead people. 14 00:00:48,382 --> 00:00:50,682 There's victims around him. Ow. 15 00:00:50,684 --> 00:00:51,717 And they speak to me. 16 00:00:51,719 --> 00:00:53,986 Her voice sounds like death. 17 00:00:53,988 --> 00:00:57,156 But there's only one way to know if my findings are real. 18 00:00:57,158 --> 00:00:59,591 The living don't stand a chance here. 19 00:00:59,593 --> 00:01:01,393 I rely on my partner. 20 00:01:01,395 --> 00:01:02,694 I'm Steve Di Schiavi. 21 00:01:02,696 --> 00:01:04,897 I'm a retired New York City homicide detective. 22 00:01:04,899 --> 00:01:06,131 You could have got killed. 23 00:01:06,133 --> 00:01:09,935 And I know every person, every house has secrets. 24 00:01:09,937 --> 00:01:11,170 This is coming straight from Hell. 25 00:01:11,172 --> 00:01:12,571 It's my job to reveal them. 26 00:01:12,573 --> 00:01:14,239 Your mom was murdered right here in this room? 27 00:01:14,241 --> 00:01:15,274 Yes, she was. 28 00:01:15,276 --> 00:01:16,842 But Steve and I never speak... 29 00:01:16,844 --> 00:01:18,877 We never communicate during an investigation. 30 00:01:18,879 --> 00:01:20,279 ...until the very end... 31 00:01:20,281 --> 00:01:21,647 This was just the beginning. 32 00:01:21,649 --> 00:01:23,682 ...when we uncover if it's safe for you to stay... 33 00:01:23,684 --> 00:01:25,084 Oh, my God. 34 00:01:25,086 --> 00:01:27,219 ...or time to get out. 35 00:01:27,221 --> 00:01:28,654 They're very bad. 36 00:01:28,656 --> 00:01:31,557 This house is going to kill me. 37 00:01:45,906 --> 00:01:48,173 I'm in the small town of Victor, New York, 38 00:01:48,175 --> 00:01:50,375 about a half hour south of Rochester. 39 00:01:50,377 --> 00:01:52,144 I got a call from a woman who's desperate 40 00:01:52,146 --> 00:01:53,779 to keep her family safe. 41 00:01:53,781 --> 00:01:55,848 She and her husband are ex-military, 42 00:01:55,850 --> 00:01:57,082 but they have no idea 43 00:01:57,084 --> 00:01:58,684 how to fight whatever's in their house. 44 00:01:58,686 --> 00:02:00,752 She told me she's out of options, 45 00:02:00,754 --> 00:02:02,855 and if Amy and I can't help, 46 00:02:02,857 --> 00:02:04,323 death isn't far behind. 47 00:02:10,264 --> 00:02:12,664 Before Amy arrives, I clear the area 48 00:02:12,666 --> 00:02:15,367 of any leading information -- 49 00:02:15,369 --> 00:02:18,370 dream catchers, personal items, 50 00:02:18,372 --> 00:02:20,873 and family photos can influence her findings. 51 00:02:20,875 --> 00:02:22,774 So it's important that I remove them all. 52 00:02:22,776 --> 00:02:27,579 When I'm done, the location will be ready for tonight's walk. 53 00:02:36,056 --> 00:02:37,256 Oh, boy. 54 00:02:37,258 --> 00:02:38,657 This isn't good. 55 00:02:43,998 --> 00:02:46,365 There's dead people in here. 56 00:02:46,367 --> 00:02:48,233 They were like, "Who the [bleep] is this [bleep]?" 57 00:02:48,235 --> 00:02:50,035 There was a battle. 58 00:02:50,037 --> 00:02:51,603 A battle was had. 59 00:02:51,605 --> 00:02:54,106 They claimed this space. 60 00:02:56,844 --> 00:02:59,378 It is not good. 61 00:03:07,655 --> 00:03:08,921 So, Lisa, when we spoke on the phone, 62 00:03:08,923 --> 00:03:11,156 you sounded like you were at the end of your rope. 63 00:03:11,158 --> 00:03:13,158 But what exactly is happening here? 64 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:14,593 The activity's at a level -- 65 00:03:14,595 --> 00:03:16,695 It's just out of control at this point. 66 00:03:16,697 --> 00:03:18,230 One of the main reasons I took the case 67 00:03:18,232 --> 00:03:19,765 is 'cause there's kids involved. 68 00:03:19,767 --> 00:03:21,567 Who exactly lives in the house? 69 00:03:21,569 --> 00:03:25,003 Well, there's mine, his, and ours, we call it 70 00:03:25,005 --> 00:03:27,172 Our crazy eight. Wow. 71 00:03:27,174 --> 00:03:29,641 Now, are all six kids having experiences? 72 00:03:29,643 --> 00:03:30,909 Oh, yeah. 73 00:03:30,911 --> 00:03:32,211 Did you guys all move in together? 74 00:03:32,213 --> 00:03:36,882 No, it was me and my ex-husband and our three children. 75 00:03:36,884 --> 00:03:38,717 We were here about a year and a half, 76 00:03:38,719 --> 00:03:42,588 and then he and I separated and started the divorce. 77 00:03:42,590 --> 00:03:44,890 When we moved in, his personality 78 00:03:44,892 --> 00:03:50,929 was slowly escalating from bad to worse, 79 00:03:50,931 --> 00:03:54,032 like all-out fits of rage, zero patience, 80 00:03:54,034 --> 00:03:56,368 daily attack is what it felt like. 81 00:03:56,370 --> 00:03:58,704 And this was not what you dealt with 82 00:03:58,706 --> 00:04:00,339 before you moved in the house. 83 00:04:00,341 --> 00:04:02,708 No, not like this. 84 00:04:02,710 --> 00:04:03,976 So, Lisa, not to pick on you, 85 00:04:03,978 --> 00:04:05,510 but why would you stay in a house 86 00:04:05,512 --> 00:04:07,145 that you think might have caused your divorce? 87 00:04:07,147 --> 00:04:10,282 My family's been here since as long as I can remember. 88 00:04:10,284 --> 00:04:12,351 So, this house is not just a house to you. 89 00:04:12,353 --> 00:04:13,385 It's memories. 90 00:04:13,387 --> 00:04:15,053 Yeah. 91 00:04:15,055 --> 00:04:16,255 Did you have experiences in this house 92 00:04:16,257 --> 00:04:17,556 when you were younger? 93 00:04:17,558 --> 00:04:18,957 Yeah. 94 00:04:18,959 --> 00:04:22,794 The biggest one I can remember, just walking up the staircase, 95 00:04:22,796 --> 00:04:24,896 and it was like you'd scramble to get upstairs 96 00:04:24,898 --> 00:04:27,933 like somebody's right behind you trying to get you. 97 00:04:27,935 --> 00:04:29,334 So, Lisa, if you can, just give me an idea 98 00:04:29,336 --> 00:04:31,169 what you guys are going through. 99 00:04:31,171 --> 00:04:32,738 You smell things. 100 00:04:32,740 --> 00:04:34,873 There's been a number of apparition, 101 00:04:34,875 --> 00:04:37,809 shadow figures, started to get physical. 102 00:04:37,811 --> 00:04:40,112 Have you done anything to try to combat what's here? 103 00:04:40,114 --> 00:04:41,780 Brought in a pagan high priestess 104 00:04:41,782 --> 00:04:43,649 to do a cleansing ritual. 105 00:04:43,651 --> 00:04:44,950 Did it work? 106 00:04:44,952 --> 00:04:46,785 Got better for a little while before it would kind of 107 00:04:46,787 --> 00:04:49,321 come back again and escalate from there. 108 00:04:49,323 --> 00:04:51,456 You think what's here is dangerous? 109 00:04:51,458 --> 00:04:53,525 Absolutely, 110 00:04:53,527 --> 00:04:54,960 and what's already happened to me 111 00:04:54,962 --> 00:04:56,328 I don't want happening to the kids. 112 00:04:56,330 --> 00:04:58,297 How you holding up? 113 00:04:58,299 --> 00:05:00,866 Not very well. 114 00:05:00,868 --> 00:05:02,367 It's hard on everybody. 115 00:05:02,369 --> 00:05:04,903 It's hard to watch them be put through it. 116 00:05:04,905 --> 00:05:07,306 You know, if it were just me, it'd be one thing. 117 00:05:07,308 --> 00:05:09,274 So what are you hoping we can do for you? 118 00:05:09,276 --> 00:05:12,878 Given what we've done hasn't worked, 119 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:16,348 if there's any other way to stop the activity, 120 00:05:16,350 --> 00:05:18,517 eliminate the fear, 121 00:05:18,519 --> 00:05:20,018 you know, make it a home again. 122 00:05:24,391 --> 00:05:27,225 The dead feel like the living are fighting with them. 123 00:05:27,227 --> 00:05:31,096 They're being mean to them, and they're trying to hurt them. 124 00:05:32,433 --> 00:05:34,800 Do they say what the living are doing to them? 125 00:05:34,802 --> 00:05:36,335 Yeah, I'm trying to get that. 126 00:05:36,337 --> 00:05:40,706 Living temporarily put them in blackness. 127 00:05:42,609 --> 00:05:45,877 The intention from the living is not good. 128 00:05:48,248 --> 00:05:50,882 I'm seeing a woman and a man. 129 00:05:50,884 --> 00:05:52,784 They're a rowdy couple. 130 00:05:52,786 --> 00:05:55,387 I think maybe they liked Bonnie and Clyde. 131 00:05:55,389 --> 00:05:56,722 They're drinking. 132 00:05:56,724 --> 00:05:58,323 They're smoking. 133 00:05:58,325 --> 00:06:01,760 Woman says, "This is where we hide from the living." 134 00:06:10,437 --> 00:06:11,570 Okay, Lisa. 135 00:06:11,572 --> 00:06:14,005 So what kind of experiences are you having? 136 00:06:14,007 --> 00:06:15,807 There's voices all over the house. 137 00:06:15,809 --> 00:06:18,777 You can hear it, no matter where you are, 138 00:06:18,779 --> 00:06:21,012 just like somebody's talking in another room. 139 00:06:21,014 --> 00:06:24,516 Can you make out if it's a male or a female? 140 00:06:24,518 --> 00:06:27,886 There's only one male voice I've heard in the bedroom, 141 00:06:27,888 --> 00:06:29,654 and you wake up to somebody yelling, 142 00:06:29,656 --> 00:06:30,956 "Hey," real loud. 143 00:06:30,958 --> 00:06:32,624 What else? 144 00:06:32,626 --> 00:06:37,262 You get an odd fragrance from time to time, 145 00:06:37,264 --> 00:06:38,463 and I say odd because 146 00:06:38,465 --> 00:06:40,766 they're nothing that would pertain to us. 147 00:06:40,768 --> 00:06:42,534 So describe the smells to me. 148 00:06:42,536 --> 00:06:45,604 There's cologne, 149 00:06:45,606 --> 00:06:47,172 tobacco smoke of some kind. 150 00:06:47,174 --> 00:06:50,108 Okay. So, where do you smell them? 151 00:06:50,110 --> 00:06:52,077 The cologne's a little bit of everywhere. 152 00:06:52,079 --> 00:06:54,279 The smoke is only upstairs. 153 00:06:54,281 --> 00:06:55,180 Your husband smoke? 154 00:06:55,182 --> 00:06:57,716 Nobody smokes. 155 00:07:01,488 --> 00:07:05,557 You have a couple up here who is partying all the time 156 00:07:05,559 --> 00:07:09,594 and, basically, creating havoc for the living. 157 00:07:09,596 --> 00:07:12,764 The dead couple, they smoke all the time. 158 00:07:12,766 --> 00:07:15,834 The living would smell it, taste it, breathe it in, 159 00:07:15,836 --> 00:07:17,035 and they would hear this couple, 160 00:07:17,037 --> 00:07:18,637 the talking and the laughing, 161 00:07:18,639 --> 00:07:20,472 and they're hearing music. 162 00:07:20,474 --> 00:07:23,108 The couple gets wasted, and then they're, like, 163 00:07:23,110 --> 00:07:27,245 banging into the wall. 164 00:07:27,247 --> 00:07:30,615 I think that this would make the living anxious. 165 00:07:30,617 --> 00:07:33,084 I feel like they did bad things. 166 00:07:33,086 --> 00:07:35,120 They want to do bad things. 167 00:07:35,122 --> 00:07:37,823 It's not good. 168 00:07:44,431 --> 00:07:46,031 What's going on here? 169 00:07:46,033 --> 00:07:48,500 You'll feel shoves in the side of the bed, 170 00:07:48,502 --> 00:07:50,702 like somebody fell into it 171 00:07:50,704 --> 00:07:52,671 or pushed on it real hard, you know. 172 00:07:52,673 --> 00:07:53,905 I know you guys have a few dogs. 173 00:07:53,907 --> 00:07:55,273 You sure it's not them? 174 00:07:55,275 --> 00:07:56,975 Definitely not. 175 00:07:56,977 --> 00:07:58,643 Okay. Anything else? 176 00:07:58,645 --> 00:08:01,847 I've had my foot grabbed laying here in bed. 177 00:08:01,849 --> 00:08:03,114 Feel like a human hand? 178 00:08:03,116 --> 00:08:05,016 Yeah. 179 00:08:05,018 --> 00:08:09,521 It could be a smaller man, if it is a man, 180 00:08:09,523 --> 00:08:12,090 or a good, strong woman, if it is a woman. 181 00:08:12,092 --> 00:08:15,827 Somebody grabbed me in bed, I'd be running out the door. 182 00:08:15,829 --> 00:08:17,496 What else is going on? 183 00:08:17,498 --> 00:08:19,498 Oh, it just seems like ever since we moved here, 184 00:08:19,500 --> 00:08:22,868 my health, in general, has just gotten worse. 185 00:08:22,870 --> 00:08:26,738 I go through every single day with some level of pain. 186 00:08:26,740 --> 00:08:29,875 It's taking whatever I have left of me. 187 00:08:29,877 --> 00:08:32,444 And then I'm not even around to protect the kids. 188 00:08:32,446 --> 00:08:34,846 So, Lisa, from what you told me, you're a wife. 189 00:08:34,848 --> 00:08:35,981 You're a mom. 190 00:08:35,983 --> 00:08:38,116 You're a step-mom being frightened. 191 00:08:38,118 --> 00:08:40,185 You got a lot on your shoulders. 192 00:08:40,187 --> 00:08:42,254 Well, I'd like to think that as a soldier, 193 00:08:42,256 --> 00:08:44,189 you're taught to stand and fight. 194 00:08:44,191 --> 00:08:45,690 You don't retreat. You don't back down. 195 00:08:45,692 --> 00:08:47,993 You don't leave anybody behind. 196 00:08:47,995 --> 00:08:50,862 A little different, we're not on the battlefield. 197 00:08:50,864 --> 00:08:52,597 Different battlefield. 198 00:08:52,599 --> 00:08:56,501 Do you feel like you're doing this all on your own? 199 00:08:56,503 --> 00:08:59,237 Sometimes, yeah, a lot of the time. 200 00:08:59,239 --> 00:09:01,873 It breaks my heart to see you going through this, 201 00:09:01,875 --> 00:09:04,075 being upset by it. 202 00:09:04,077 --> 00:09:05,010 Yeah. 203 00:09:08,582 --> 00:09:10,382 Is this dead couple aware of the living? 204 00:09:10,384 --> 00:09:12,350 Yes. 205 00:09:12,352 --> 00:09:15,220 They're very aware, and they know their environment, 206 00:09:15,222 --> 00:09:16,888 and living people are in the bed 207 00:09:16,890 --> 00:09:18,924 and flopping into the bed. 208 00:09:21,161 --> 00:09:23,361 Do they have any intent toward the living. 209 00:09:23,363 --> 00:09:25,530 They wouldn't mind if there was 210 00:09:25,532 --> 00:09:29,701 never any living people here to get in their way. 211 00:09:32,839 --> 00:09:36,975 I don't know how the people get any [bleep] sleep here. 212 00:09:36,977 --> 00:09:39,044 You know, imagine living with two 213 00:09:39,046 --> 00:09:42,881 raging alcoholics/party people. 214 00:09:42,883 --> 00:09:45,917 The living are probably feeling sick. 215 00:09:45,919 --> 00:09:48,053 This dead guy, 216 00:09:48,055 --> 00:09:49,888 he can get physical with the living. 217 00:09:49,890 --> 00:09:52,390 They would feel like they were getting hit. 218 00:09:56,296 --> 00:09:58,496 Any idea why he's doing that? 219 00:09:58,498 --> 00:10:01,733 He's retaliating against them 220 00:10:01,735 --> 00:10:03,735 for banishing them to the darkness. 221 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:27,993 So, Brad, I was talking to Lisa. 222 00:10:27,995 --> 00:10:29,260 She told me some really strange stuff 223 00:10:29,262 --> 00:10:30,662 that's going on in this house. 224 00:10:30,664 --> 00:10:32,430 Did she even tell you this place was haunted 225 00:10:32,432 --> 00:10:33,598 before you moved in? 226 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:35,200 She touched a little on it. 227 00:10:35,202 --> 00:10:36,501 She explained some of the interactions 228 00:10:36,503 --> 00:10:37,669 the children have had. 229 00:10:37,671 --> 00:10:38,970 When you heard that, what did you think? 230 00:10:38,972 --> 00:10:41,306 That they were just stories like everything else. 231 00:10:41,308 --> 00:10:42,774 So, now that you've been here a while, 232 00:10:42,776 --> 00:10:44,275 you still a skeptic? No. 233 00:10:44,277 --> 00:10:46,111 My mind has definitely changed on that. 234 00:10:46,113 --> 00:10:48,013 What were the experiences that changed your mind? 235 00:10:48,015 --> 00:10:49,781 I feel like I'm just being watched 236 00:10:49,783 --> 00:10:51,316 ever since I've come to the property. 237 00:10:51,318 --> 00:10:53,218 Where are you feeling watched? 238 00:10:53,220 --> 00:10:54,786 Everywhere. 239 00:10:54,788 --> 00:10:57,555 It's the whole house, even outside. 240 00:10:57,557 --> 00:10:58,790 Okay, anything else? 241 00:10:58,792 --> 00:11:00,558 One night, the wife and I were laying in bed, 242 00:11:00,560 --> 00:11:02,460 and we saw this dark shadow, 243 00:11:02,462 --> 00:11:04,062 and it was hovering over top of us. 244 00:11:04,064 --> 00:11:05,430 We were frozen -- 245 00:11:05,432 --> 00:11:07,098 couldn't move, couldn't speak, 246 00:11:07,100 --> 00:11:10,001 felt like we couldn't breathe. 247 00:11:10,003 --> 00:11:11,336 Okay, so you both were seeing this? 248 00:11:11,338 --> 00:11:14,439 Yes, and it was just all dark. 249 00:11:14,441 --> 00:11:17,509 That was the turning point. I wasn't a skeptic any more. 250 00:11:17,511 --> 00:11:18,576 You have six kids here. 251 00:11:18,578 --> 00:11:20,245 You got to be worried about them. 252 00:11:20,247 --> 00:11:21,946 Yeah. Feel helpless. 253 00:11:21,948 --> 00:11:24,816 If a guy came into the house, I could handle it hands on. 254 00:11:24,818 --> 00:11:27,218 What I can't see is mind wrecking. 255 00:11:34,094 --> 00:11:36,528 There's this other woman 256 00:11:36,530 --> 00:11:38,263 who did live her. 257 00:11:38,265 --> 00:11:40,632 I think she's a widow. 258 00:11:40,634 --> 00:11:43,535 The living are very affected by this woman. 259 00:11:43,537 --> 00:11:46,438 Can't, like, get away from her if you want to. 260 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:49,541 This chick is a big [bleep] problem. 261 00:11:49,543 --> 00:11:53,945 They would probably perceive something hovering over them. 262 00:11:55,782 --> 00:11:58,583 I'm getting that she tried to kill someone here. 263 00:12:07,494 --> 00:12:08,727 So, Kortney, I was talking to Mom 264 00:12:08,729 --> 00:12:10,395 and stuff that's going on here. 265 00:12:10,397 --> 00:12:11,863 And she told me you were, what, 18? 266 00:12:11,865 --> 00:12:13,531 Mm-hmm. Okay. 267 00:12:13,533 --> 00:12:15,033 Now, what about your own experiences? 268 00:12:15,035 --> 00:12:16,267 Have you had any? 269 00:12:16,269 --> 00:12:17,569 A couple, yeah. 270 00:12:17,571 --> 00:12:21,639 I saw an apparition of a small black creature. 271 00:12:21,641 --> 00:12:23,508 Okay. Describe it to me. 272 00:12:23,510 --> 00:12:26,878 Well, it was very black and kind of bony. 273 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:28,513 You could see that it was very skinny 274 00:12:28,515 --> 00:12:30,115 and about 4-feet tall 275 00:12:30,117 --> 00:12:33,585 and, like, it drew a fist back like it was going to hit me. 276 00:12:33,587 --> 00:12:35,420 Okay. Anything else? 277 00:12:35,422 --> 00:12:38,156 I was sleeping one night, and something grabbed my foot. 278 00:12:38,158 --> 00:12:39,557 Okay. 279 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:42,627 It was just kind of, like, a force being dragged backwards. 280 00:12:42,629 --> 00:12:43,862 On both feet or just one? 281 00:12:43,864 --> 00:12:45,930 Just one. Okay. 282 00:12:45,932 --> 00:12:47,265 Did you have any marks on your feet or anything 283 00:12:47,267 --> 00:12:48,800 like that, nothing around the ankles? 284 00:12:48,802 --> 00:12:50,101 No. 285 00:12:50,103 --> 00:12:53,204 Now, do you think your younger siblings are in danger here? 286 00:12:53,206 --> 00:12:55,206 Mm-hmm. Yeah. 287 00:12:59,379 --> 00:13:02,514 This dead lady who lived here, she's evil. 288 00:13:02,516 --> 00:13:03,982 She's mad. 289 00:13:03,984 --> 00:13:05,717 She was on my shoulders. 290 00:13:05,719 --> 00:13:07,185 This is something she likes to do, 291 00:13:07,187 --> 00:13:11,122 is stand behind people or crawl up on their back 292 00:13:11,124 --> 00:13:14,259 and then push down on their shoulders. 293 00:13:16,463 --> 00:13:21,199 She makes people feel extreme stress. 294 00:13:23,036 --> 00:13:26,805 She wants everybody, living and dead, 295 00:13:26,807 --> 00:13:28,740 out of this [bleep] house. 296 00:13:28,742 --> 00:13:30,074 She's a problem. 297 00:13:36,883 --> 00:13:38,116 I started talking to the boys 298 00:13:38,118 --> 00:13:40,185 to see what experiences they've had. 299 00:13:40,187 --> 00:13:42,320 When I was playing games, I heard, like, 300 00:13:42,322 --> 00:13:43,822 footsteps come up behind me. 301 00:13:43,824 --> 00:13:45,390 But when I would, like, look behind me, 302 00:13:45,392 --> 00:13:48,626 there would just be nothing there. 303 00:13:48,628 --> 00:13:51,296 And everyone had a story to tell. 304 00:13:51,298 --> 00:13:53,331 It was maybe 3:30 in the morning. 305 00:13:53,333 --> 00:13:57,202 It felt like somebody had placed their hand on my left shoulder. 306 00:13:57,204 --> 00:14:01,573 It's really just -- I feel a presence. 307 00:14:01,575 --> 00:14:03,274 But it's what the little ones had to tell me 308 00:14:03,276 --> 00:14:06,177 that really broke my heart. 309 00:14:06,179 --> 00:14:08,313 Dad says a lot of the stuff that's going on here 310 00:14:08,315 --> 00:14:10,215 is really scaring you guys. 311 00:14:10,217 --> 00:14:12,083 That true? Yes. 312 00:14:12,085 --> 00:14:13,351 Mm-hmm. 313 00:14:13,353 --> 00:14:17,121 Scariest thing I saw in the house was 314 00:14:17,123 --> 00:14:20,124 the door slam shut, 315 00:14:20,126 --> 00:14:23,528 and I didn't see anybody. 316 00:14:23,530 --> 00:14:25,763 The scariest thing I saw in the house was 317 00:14:25,765 --> 00:14:28,900 the little boy who walked up the stairs. 318 00:14:28,902 --> 00:14:30,335 Was he about your age, 319 00:14:30,337 --> 00:14:32,003 or your brother's age, do you know? 320 00:14:32,005 --> 00:14:33,872 He was about... 321 00:14:33,874 --> 00:14:35,173 Oh, real tiny. 322 00:14:35,175 --> 00:14:36,040 Toddler. 323 00:14:36,042 --> 00:14:38,009 Oh, a toddler. 324 00:14:38,011 --> 00:14:39,677 Are you guys afraid to be here? 325 00:14:39,679 --> 00:14:42,580 Yeah. 326 00:14:42,582 --> 00:14:43,781 All right. 327 00:14:46,686 --> 00:14:51,723 So this woman, the widow, she comes in here. 328 00:14:51,725 --> 00:14:54,893 I don't think she likes anyone, 329 00:14:54,895 --> 00:14:58,596 in particular, under the age of 18. 330 00:14:58,598 --> 00:15:00,431 So that's a problem. 331 00:15:00,433 --> 00:15:03,902 Yeah, she likes to [bleep] hurt people's necks. 332 00:15:03,904 --> 00:15:07,005 She's showing me, like, doing stuff to their bones 333 00:15:07,007 --> 00:15:08,740 and their skulls, 334 00:15:08,742 --> 00:15:10,408 and she's very into it. 335 00:15:10,410 --> 00:15:12,410 Feel like doing [bleep] to their brains. 336 00:15:12,412 --> 00:15:14,012 What is she doing to their brains? 337 00:15:14,014 --> 00:15:15,947 She's exploring them. 338 00:15:15,949 --> 00:15:21,552 The living might have, like, memory lapses, headaches. 339 00:15:21,554 --> 00:15:23,221 It's almost like, while she's doing it, 340 00:15:23,223 --> 00:15:26,858 they're having some kind of seizures. 341 00:15:26,860 --> 00:15:29,027 Do you know why she's doing that? 342 00:15:29,029 --> 00:15:31,629 Because she's completely insane, 343 00:15:31,631 --> 00:15:34,098 and she can do whatever she wants now. 344 00:15:48,048 --> 00:15:50,315 So, the first thing I did was make my usual calls -- 345 00:15:50,317 --> 00:15:53,451 local law enforcement, historians, et cetera. 346 00:15:53,453 --> 00:15:55,420 Turns out the guy who built Lisa's house 347 00:15:55,422 --> 00:15:58,022 killed himself by jumping in front of a train. 348 00:15:58,024 --> 00:15:59,324 I'm heading over to meet with an author 349 00:15:59,326 --> 00:16:01,526 who says what happened to his widow afterwards 350 00:16:01,528 --> 00:16:03,294 is even more of a tragedy. 351 00:16:11,204 --> 00:16:12,537 So what can you tell me about this guy 352 00:16:12,539 --> 00:16:13,972 that jumped in front of the train? 353 00:16:13,974 --> 00:16:17,408 George Bement is his name, and he was a native of Victor, 354 00:16:17,410 --> 00:16:21,412 and he married a spinster named Mary Brown in 1889. 355 00:16:21,414 --> 00:16:23,014 How did they come onto the property? 356 00:16:23,016 --> 00:16:26,617 The next year, his mom passes and left him the land, 357 00:16:26,619 --> 00:16:29,020 and then he and Mary built this big house 358 00:16:29,022 --> 00:16:30,755 that your client came to own. 359 00:16:30,757 --> 00:16:32,457 Take me to the day he gets killed. 360 00:16:32,459 --> 00:16:33,524 What happened? 361 00:16:33,526 --> 00:16:36,894 Well, it was 22nd of April, 1899, 362 00:16:36,896 --> 00:16:38,563 and he came to the train crossing. 363 00:16:38,565 --> 00:16:40,765 For some reason, the gate was down, 364 00:16:40,767 --> 00:16:42,100 but he went around it, 365 00:16:42,102 --> 00:16:44,302 and he stepped in front of a moving locomotive 366 00:16:44,304 --> 00:16:45,570 going 40 miles an hour. 367 00:16:45,572 --> 00:16:47,572 So this guy's body must have been a mess. 368 00:16:47,574 --> 00:16:49,874 Yeah, it was thrown across the street. 369 00:16:49,876 --> 00:16:52,677 1,700 feet from his home, he died instantly. 370 00:16:52,679 --> 00:16:55,580 Was there any information out there that said 371 00:16:55,582 --> 00:16:57,815 he might have been down and out and depressed or anything? 372 00:16:57,817 --> 00:16:59,217 No, I don't think he was down and out 373 00:16:59,219 --> 00:17:01,219 because he left his wife an inheritance. 374 00:17:01,221 --> 00:17:02,487 All right. So George is dead. 375 00:17:02,489 --> 00:17:04,756 Now, you mentioned on the phone that his widow 376 00:17:04,758 --> 00:17:07,125 suffered more tragedy after he died. 377 00:17:07,127 --> 00:17:08,593 What'd you mean? 378 00:17:08,595 --> 00:17:11,763 Yeah. Well, Mary moved in her extended family right away. 379 00:17:11,765 --> 00:17:14,465 She moved in both parents, a brother and an uncle. 380 00:17:14,467 --> 00:17:15,733 Okay. So what happened? 381 00:17:15,735 --> 00:17:19,670 Within the first nine years, all four of them died. 382 00:17:19,672 --> 00:17:22,940 So I have the four death records for you right here. 383 00:17:22,942 --> 00:17:25,043 Was there anything unusual about these deaths? 384 00:17:25,045 --> 00:17:27,445 Just the frequency, I would say. 385 00:17:27,447 --> 00:17:28,646 Okay. So what happens to her? 386 00:17:28,648 --> 00:17:30,748 She remained in the home another 14 years 387 00:17:30,750 --> 00:17:34,152 until her own death in the house in 1923. 388 00:17:34,154 --> 00:17:36,354 I have a copy of Mary's death certificate here. 389 00:17:36,356 --> 00:17:38,756 She was 73 years of age when she died. 390 00:17:38,758 --> 00:17:40,258 All right. So what happens to the property? 391 00:17:40,260 --> 00:17:41,426 In the last year of her life, 392 00:17:41,428 --> 00:17:43,861 she transferred the property to her brother, Abry, 393 00:17:43,863 --> 00:17:45,196 and while Abry was living there, 394 00:17:45,198 --> 00:17:47,765 four more people died in the house, 395 00:17:47,767 --> 00:17:51,135 and I have those death records here, as well. 396 00:17:51,137 --> 00:17:53,838 So we've got the possible suicide of the original owner 397 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:56,340 and nine deaths inside the house. 398 00:17:56,342 --> 00:17:59,210 I haven't seen this many bodies since I was working in homicide. 399 00:18:03,216 --> 00:18:04,549 Something's really wrong. 400 00:18:04,551 --> 00:18:06,884 I think this dead widow is able to influence 401 00:18:06,886 --> 00:18:09,520 the living to do horrible things. 402 00:18:09,522 --> 00:18:12,156 People here will be, like, out of the blue, 403 00:18:12,158 --> 00:18:14,525 for no [bleep] reason, kill themselves. 404 00:18:17,197 --> 00:18:18,596 So, she, actually, lived here. 405 00:18:18,598 --> 00:18:20,998 And then, I got money with her. 406 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:22,233 The one thing that she showed me 407 00:18:22,235 --> 00:18:25,837 is that she has been kind of damned 408 00:18:25,839 --> 00:18:29,774 to walk her family's graves. 409 00:18:34,047 --> 00:18:37,048 And there's four -- four people that are buried, 410 00:18:37,050 --> 00:18:41,319 that specifically belong to her in this particular situation. 411 00:18:41,321 --> 00:18:45,923 I am suspicious that she killed her family. 412 00:18:45,925 --> 00:18:48,626 She's, definitely, a serial killer. 413 00:18:50,763 --> 00:18:52,597 I've just started my investigation. 414 00:18:52,599 --> 00:18:55,533 I already have nine deaths on my client's property. 415 00:18:55,535 --> 00:18:56,801 It's pretty staggering, 416 00:18:56,803 --> 00:18:58,836 but I need to see if there's anything else. 417 00:19:00,874 --> 00:19:04,108 Searching through old records, I find William Dryer. 418 00:19:04,110 --> 00:19:06,377 Turns out William's family also suffered 419 00:19:06,379 --> 00:19:07,645 several unusual deaths 420 00:19:07,647 --> 00:19:10,414 during the time he lived on Lisa's property. 421 00:19:10,416 --> 00:19:12,216 This is one of the highest body counts 422 00:19:12,218 --> 00:19:14,552 I've ever seen on a client's property. 423 00:19:14,554 --> 00:19:17,054 So, I'm headed over to meet with a local genealogist 424 00:19:17,056 --> 00:19:19,323 who was looking into the Dryer family for me. 425 00:19:25,231 --> 00:19:27,865 So, Barb, what can you tell me about William Dryer? 426 00:19:27,867 --> 00:19:31,536 Well, William Dryer was born in 1810 in Victor. 427 00:19:31,538 --> 00:19:34,172 Here is a picture of the gentleman. 428 00:19:34,174 --> 00:19:37,475 So what did this guy, William, do to make a living? 429 00:19:37,477 --> 00:19:38,876 Oh, he did a lot of different things. 430 00:19:38,878 --> 00:19:39,677 He was a miller. 431 00:19:39,679 --> 00:19:41,112 He ran a hotel. 432 00:19:41,114 --> 00:19:43,080 He was a master carpenter. 433 00:19:43,082 --> 00:19:45,917 He was the postmaster of Victor for many years. 434 00:19:45,919 --> 00:19:47,051 So what's the deal? 435 00:19:47,053 --> 00:19:49,387 Does this guy get married and have a family? 436 00:19:49,389 --> 00:19:52,256 Well, in 1830, he married a local girl 437 00:19:52,258 --> 00:19:53,724 named Caroline Wright, 438 00:19:53,726 --> 00:19:57,361 and in 1833, they had a daughter named Julia. 439 00:19:57,363 --> 00:19:59,730 Shortly after this, in 1834, 440 00:19:59,732 --> 00:20:02,633 he bought a large parcel of land. 441 00:20:02,635 --> 00:20:05,102 Okay, and that land he bought is where my clients live now? 442 00:20:05,104 --> 00:20:06,370 Yes. 443 00:20:06,372 --> 00:20:09,173 Shortly after the purchase of this property, 444 00:20:09,175 --> 00:20:11,209 their daughter, Julia, passes away 445 00:20:11,211 --> 00:20:12,777 at about the age of a year. 446 00:20:12,779 --> 00:20:13,911 Any idea why? 447 00:20:13,913 --> 00:20:15,379 Well, this is pre-death records. 448 00:20:15,381 --> 00:20:18,015 So we don't really know. Okay. 449 00:20:18,017 --> 00:20:19,817 So, now William loses his baby daughter. 450 00:20:19,819 --> 00:20:21,819 What happens with William and Caroline at this point? 451 00:20:21,821 --> 00:20:26,557 Not long after Julia's death, Caroline started to become sick. 452 00:20:26,559 --> 00:20:31,028 And she passed away in 1837 453 00:20:31,030 --> 00:20:34,198 from one of the long forms of consumption. 454 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:35,233 So, she had TB. 455 00:20:35,235 --> 00:20:36,601 Right. 456 00:20:36,603 --> 00:20:39,837 And she was only 22 when she passed away. 457 00:20:39,839 --> 00:20:41,939 This is her obituary. 458 00:20:45,378 --> 00:20:47,144 So, what happens to William? 459 00:20:47,146 --> 00:20:51,649 He married another local girl named Phoebe Ball in 1839. 460 00:20:51,651 --> 00:20:53,084 So did they have kids? 461 00:20:53,086 --> 00:20:54,318 Yes, they had two. 462 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:57,755 They had a son, and then they had another daughter. 463 00:20:57,757 --> 00:21:02,226 Unfortunately, she passed away when she was 16 years old. 464 00:21:02,228 --> 00:21:04,028 We know how she died? 465 00:21:04,030 --> 00:21:07,131 No, because we don't have the death record. 466 00:21:07,133 --> 00:21:09,467 All right. So, William loses his first wife, 467 00:21:09,469 --> 00:21:10,968 a child with her and then another child 468 00:21:10,970 --> 00:21:13,004 with another wife. Right. 469 00:21:13,006 --> 00:21:13,904 So, what happens with William? 470 00:21:13,906 --> 00:21:17,642 He lived to be 80 years old. 471 00:21:17,644 --> 00:21:20,044 And there is a copy of his obituary. 472 00:21:20,046 --> 00:21:22,380 He died in 1891. 473 00:21:22,382 --> 00:21:25,249 That's at least a dozen deaths on my client's property. 474 00:21:25,251 --> 00:21:27,318 I've rarely seen anything like it. 475 00:21:33,426 --> 00:21:37,695 I'm seeing these older dead people. 476 00:21:37,697 --> 00:21:42,400 I feel like they died from natural causes. 477 00:21:44,937 --> 00:21:47,505 They lived here, it seems like, 478 00:21:47,507 --> 00:21:49,206 for a bit. 479 00:21:49,208 --> 00:21:52,977 The older dead man I'm seeing is very bitter. 480 00:21:52,979 --> 00:21:55,246 He was a laborer and, you know, 481 00:21:55,248 --> 00:21:57,148 like, building, construction, 482 00:21:57,150 --> 00:22:00,217 railroad, something like that. 483 00:22:00,219 --> 00:22:02,987 She might have been a school teacher. 484 00:22:02,989 --> 00:22:07,425 So something happened where her kid got sick. 485 00:22:07,427 --> 00:22:11,696 I'm seeing kid on the table, and they had to do surgery. 486 00:22:14,434 --> 00:22:16,300 But then the kid died. 487 00:22:23,576 --> 00:22:25,142 If you need us to investigate 488 00:22:25,144 --> 00:22:27,044 unexplained activity in your home, 489 00:22:27,046 --> 00:22:29,914 go to the "Dead Files" page at travelchannel.com. 490 00:22:29,916 --> 00:22:32,049 Click on "Help me, "Dead Files!" to submit your story, 491 00:22:32,051 --> 00:22:32,750 and we'll help if we can. 492 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:43,694 So, another thing caught my eye in research. 493 00:22:43,696 --> 00:22:46,564 Back in the 1900s, there was a brutal double homicide 494 00:22:46,566 --> 00:22:48,899 that happened real close to Lisa's property. 495 00:22:48,901 --> 00:22:52,236 So I called the local sheriff. He knew all about the case. 496 00:22:52,238 --> 00:22:54,071 And he tells me it was the bloodiest killing 497 00:22:54,073 --> 00:22:55,506 in the county's history. 498 00:23:02,849 --> 00:23:05,015 Well, Sheriff Povero, you mentioned on the phone 499 00:23:05,017 --> 00:23:06,884 this double homicide was pretty brutal. 500 00:23:06,886 --> 00:23:08,085 What can you tell me about it? 501 00:23:08,087 --> 00:23:10,921 Well, back in 1918, there was a farmer 502 00:23:10,923 --> 00:23:13,090 by the name of McClellan Mosher. 503 00:23:13,092 --> 00:23:16,660 And he owned a farm very near to the location 504 00:23:16,662 --> 00:23:18,028 that you're investigating. 505 00:23:18,030 --> 00:23:20,398 So what do we know about this guy, Mosher? 506 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,000 Mosher lived on the farm with his wife 507 00:23:23,002 --> 00:23:25,469 and his 15-year-old daughter, Blanche. 508 00:23:25,471 --> 00:23:28,172 They employed a farmhand by the name of Earl Austin 509 00:23:28,174 --> 00:23:30,174 who was 32 years old. 510 00:23:30,176 --> 00:23:32,176 This is a picture of Earl Austin 511 00:23:32,178 --> 00:23:34,979 that appeared in the local newspaper at the time. 512 00:23:34,981 --> 00:23:37,214 All right. So, I know this is our killer, 513 00:23:37,216 --> 00:23:38,682 but what happened that night? 514 00:23:38,684 --> 00:23:41,419 Yeah, on April 27th, 1918, 515 00:23:41,421 --> 00:23:45,823 McClellan and Earl Austin had an argument 516 00:23:45,825 --> 00:23:47,792 while they were working on the farm. 517 00:23:47,794 --> 00:23:50,261 Austin left the farm, 518 00:23:50,263 --> 00:23:52,396 but he did come back later that evening. 519 00:23:52,398 --> 00:23:55,466 He waited for Mosher to go to sleep. 520 00:23:55,468 --> 00:23:59,904 Austin took an axe into Mosher's bedroom, 521 00:23:59,906 --> 00:24:02,406 and he bludgeoned them to death. 522 00:24:02,408 --> 00:24:04,508 Does he stick around? What happened? 523 00:24:04,510 --> 00:24:08,646 Mosher's daughter, Blanche, and her cousin, Wilma, 524 00:24:08,648 --> 00:24:09,947 returned later in the evening 525 00:24:09,949 --> 00:24:13,451 with Austin still hiding inside the house. 526 00:24:13,453 --> 00:24:16,454 This is a photograph of Blanche. 527 00:24:18,891 --> 00:24:22,660 This is a photograph of cousin Wilma. 528 00:24:28,167 --> 00:24:33,404 Austin came into the bedroom. He struck the cousin, Wilma. 529 00:24:33,406 --> 00:24:35,940 She was dazed but managed to run off, 530 00:24:35,942 --> 00:24:39,443 and Austin turned to Blanche 531 00:24:39,445 --> 00:24:42,213 and bludgeoned her to death in her bed. 532 00:24:42,215 --> 00:24:44,782 All right. So Wilma's dazed, 533 00:24:44,784 --> 00:24:46,984 and Blanche is DOA at this point. 534 00:24:46,986 --> 00:24:48,552 What happens next? 535 00:24:48,554 --> 00:24:52,490 Wilma was a very intelligent 19-year-old girl. 536 00:24:52,492 --> 00:24:55,593 And despite being dazed, she convinced Austin 537 00:24:55,595 --> 00:24:58,562 that she really didn't like her relatives, 538 00:24:58,564 --> 00:25:02,233 and she convinced him that they should elope together. 539 00:25:02,235 --> 00:25:06,270 She and Austin left and went to a nearby train station. 540 00:25:06,272 --> 00:25:08,305 When they arrived there, 541 00:25:08,307 --> 00:25:11,208 she alerted the conductor, and Austin fled. 542 00:25:11,210 --> 00:25:12,877 So, she played him good. 543 00:25:12,879 --> 00:25:14,745 She played him good. Okay, Sheriff. 544 00:25:14,747 --> 00:25:17,748 So now he takes off. Does he ever get apprehended? 545 00:25:17,750 --> 00:25:21,051 Austin, actually, is apprehended about 10 miles 546 00:25:21,053 --> 00:25:22,553 from the train station. 547 00:25:22,555 --> 00:25:24,655 Austin gave a full confession. 548 00:25:24,657 --> 00:25:28,192 He was convicted of first-degree murder. 549 00:25:32,198 --> 00:25:33,531 So, does he die in prison? 550 00:25:33,533 --> 00:25:36,333 No, Austin spent the next 31 years 551 00:25:36,335 --> 00:25:38,068 in a state mental hospital 552 00:25:38,070 --> 00:25:42,606 until he died on November 14, 1949. 553 00:25:49,448 --> 00:25:52,750 There's another guy here. 554 00:25:52,752 --> 00:25:55,986 He's, like, wigging out. 555 00:25:55,988 --> 00:25:57,521 He's just, like, sitting there crying 556 00:25:57,523 --> 00:26:00,524 and mumbling that he didn't do it. 557 00:26:00,526 --> 00:26:01,825 He did not do it. 558 00:26:01,827 --> 00:26:02,993 What do you mean? 559 00:26:02,995 --> 00:26:06,030 I think he killed somebody. 560 00:26:06,032 --> 00:26:08,532 This was a long time ago. 561 00:26:08,534 --> 00:26:10,267 So I don't know if he, like, 562 00:26:10,269 --> 00:26:12,503 snuck out here or something. 563 00:26:12,505 --> 00:26:15,339 He says he didn't kill her. 564 00:26:15,341 --> 00:26:16,473 He says it was an accident. 565 00:26:16,475 --> 00:26:19,209 He absolutely did not kill her, 566 00:26:19,211 --> 00:26:21,011 and so he was saying he didn't do it, 567 00:26:21,013 --> 00:26:24,415 and then I look down, and she's, obviously, dead. 568 00:26:32,825 --> 00:26:35,459 During my walk, I encountered several dead people, 569 00:26:35,461 --> 00:26:37,861 but two concerned me the most. 570 00:26:37,863 --> 00:26:40,097 First, the crying man who kept saying 571 00:26:40,099 --> 00:26:41,532 he didn't kill a woman. 572 00:26:41,534 --> 00:26:47,137 He was about late 20s, early 30s, 573 00:26:47,139 --> 00:26:49,173 no facial hair. 574 00:26:49,175 --> 00:26:52,676 He had kind of larger eyes. 575 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,513 Next, I described the widow 576 00:26:56,515 --> 00:26:58,782 attacking the living in the house. 577 00:26:58,784 --> 00:27:00,951 She likes to strangle people. 578 00:27:00,953 --> 00:27:03,220 So she likes to, literally, like, 579 00:27:03,222 --> 00:27:07,591 get her hands around their neck. 580 00:27:07,593 --> 00:27:11,161 And she has, like, these dark eyes. 581 00:27:11,163 --> 00:27:14,732 It goes all to black, like gaping holes. 582 00:27:23,275 --> 00:27:25,142 Amy, is this what you saw? 583 00:27:26,979 --> 00:27:28,746 Yes, that's what I saw. 584 00:27:48,334 --> 00:27:51,301 Now that Amy and I have completed our investigations, 585 00:27:51,303 --> 00:27:53,637 we're ready to reveal our findings to each other 586 00:27:53,639 --> 00:27:56,507 and our clients for the first time. 587 00:27:56,509 --> 00:27:59,376 So, Amy, I'd like you to meet Lisa and her husband, Brad. 588 00:27:59,378 --> 00:28:02,279 They're both army veterans and used to combat conditions, 589 00:28:02,281 --> 00:28:03,914 but nothing could have prepared them 590 00:28:03,916 --> 00:28:05,616 for what they're dealing with now. 591 00:28:05,618 --> 00:28:07,484 Activity in the house is out of control, 592 00:28:07,486 --> 00:28:09,853 and they're afraid it's going after their kids. 593 00:28:09,855 --> 00:28:12,456 This is the whole tribe right here. 594 00:28:12,458 --> 00:28:14,324 Lisa called us in because she doesn't think it's safe 595 00:28:14,326 --> 00:28:15,359 for the kids here. 596 00:28:15,361 --> 00:28:16,894 If we can't help them out, 597 00:28:16,896 --> 00:28:19,797 she thinks somebody's going to get killed. 598 00:28:19,799 --> 00:28:21,765 So now that Amy knows a little bit about you guys, 599 00:28:21,767 --> 00:28:23,767 I'm going to ask her to describe her walk. 600 00:28:28,207 --> 00:28:30,140 When I first got here, 601 00:28:30,142 --> 00:28:32,276 I was getting a lot of information. 602 00:28:32,278 --> 00:28:33,510 Out in the backyard, 603 00:28:33,512 --> 00:28:36,747 I saw a male, 604 00:28:36,749 --> 00:28:40,317 and he was really hyper 605 00:28:40,319 --> 00:28:42,252 and freaking out. 606 00:28:42,254 --> 00:28:45,289 I felt like he was not directly attached 607 00:28:45,291 --> 00:28:46,390 to this property 608 00:28:46,392 --> 00:28:48,425 but that he had been here at some point. 609 00:28:48,427 --> 00:28:51,195 He was kind of out of his mind. 610 00:28:51,197 --> 00:28:53,097 He kept mumbling over and over and over again 611 00:28:53,099 --> 00:28:54,732 that he didn't do it, he didn't do it. 612 00:28:54,734 --> 00:28:58,669 And then I saw a woman laying at his feet. 613 00:28:58,671 --> 00:29:00,304 She was dead. 614 00:29:00,306 --> 00:29:03,207 I felt like he did kill this woman. 615 00:29:03,209 --> 00:29:05,476 Now, the guy you saw, how old do you think he was? 616 00:29:05,478 --> 00:29:08,479 I would have thought he was in his 20s. 617 00:29:08,481 --> 00:29:10,614 Some of the things you're saying reminded me 618 00:29:10,616 --> 00:29:13,283 of a case I came across in my research. 619 00:29:13,285 --> 00:29:14,651 Back in the early 1900s, 620 00:29:14,653 --> 00:29:16,320 there was a guy named McClellan Mosher, 621 00:29:16,322 --> 00:29:18,255 had a farm right next door to this property. 622 00:29:18,257 --> 00:29:19,990 Mosher lived there with his wife 623 00:29:19,992 --> 00:29:22,659 and his 15-year-old daughter, Blanche. 624 00:29:22,661 --> 00:29:25,562 Now, at the time, Mosher employed a 32-year-old farmhand 625 00:29:25,564 --> 00:29:27,564 by the name of Earl Austin. 626 00:29:27,566 --> 00:29:30,667 April of 1918, Mosher and Austin had a fight 627 00:29:30,669 --> 00:29:32,169 while working on the farm. 628 00:29:32,171 --> 00:29:34,104 Austin backed down and left. 629 00:29:34,106 --> 00:29:36,540 He wind up coming back later that night. 630 00:29:36,542 --> 00:29:39,176 Now, you said the guy you saw snuck out here? 631 00:29:39,178 --> 00:29:41,478 Well, Austin snuck into Mosher's house 632 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:42,646 while he was sleeping. 633 00:29:42,648 --> 00:29:45,349 He took an axe, and he bludgeoned him to death. 634 00:29:45,351 --> 00:29:46,750 But that wasn't the end of it. 635 00:29:46,752 --> 00:29:47,918 Austin waited in the house 636 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:49,987 for the 15-year-old daughter, Blanche, 637 00:29:49,989 --> 00:29:52,756 and her cousin, Wilma, to come home. 638 00:29:52,758 --> 00:29:55,392 I actually got a photo of both girls. 639 00:29:55,394 --> 00:29:58,028 So this is the daughter, Blanche, 640 00:29:58,030 --> 00:30:00,097 and then this is her cousin, Wilma. 641 00:30:00,099 --> 00:30:01,865 Once the girls were in bed, 642 00:30:01,867 --> 00:30:04,268 this sick bastard snuck into their rooms. 643 00:30:04,270 --> 00:30:06,003 He took the axe and killed Blanche. 644 00:30:06,005 --> 00:30:08,305 He went to kill Wilma next, but she lied to him 645 00:30:08,307 --> 00:30:10,874 and somehow convinced him to elope 646 00:30:10,876 --> 00:30:12,910 and go to a train station that night. 647 00:30:12,912 --> 00:30:14,178 Now, at the train station, 648 00:30:14,180 --> 00:30:16,246 Wilma rats out Earl to a conductor, 649 00:30:16,248 --> 00:30:17,548 and he took off. 650 00:30:17,550 --> 00:30:19,950 Cops caught up to him about a couple hours later. 651 00:30:19,952 --> 00:30:22,319 Austin never claimed he killed these two people by accident, 652 00:30:22,321 --> 00:30:24,021 but he did plead insanity. 653 00:30:24,023 --> 00:30:26,390 So Austin got transferred to a mental hospital 654 00:30:26,392 --> 00:30:29,393 and stayed there until he died in 1949. 655 00:30:29,395 --> 00:30:31,361 I met with the local sheriff, and he told me this was 656 00:30:31,363 --> 00:30:33,697 the most brutal homicide in this county's history. 657 00:30:33,699 --> 00:30:34,832 As a matter of fact, he actually gave me 658 00:30:34,834 --> 00:30:36,500 a photo of the perpetrator. 659 00:30:36,502 --> 00:30:38,335 This is Earl Austin here. 660 00:30:41,340 --> 00:30:42,973 Did you get a good look at him? 661 00:30:42,975 --> 00:30:44,908 - Yeah. - Is this our guy? 662 00:30:44,910 --> 00:30:46,610 I had a sketch done. 663 00:30:51,917 --> 00:30:54,685 It's a pretty damn close description of this guy. 664 00:30:57,690 --> 00:31:00,190 Wow. 665 00:31:03,128 --> 00:31:05,696 Lips and the chin. 666 00:31:05,698 --> 00:31:08,432 So, Amy, you think this is possible who you saw? 667 00:31:10,636 --> 00:31:11,735 Yes. 668 00:31:15,241 --> 00:31:17,140 Okay, so what else did you see? 669 00:31:17,142 --> 00:31:20,844 Upstairs, I met a couple. 670 00:31:20,846 --> 00:31:22,679 From how they were both dressed, 671 00:31:22,681 --> 00:31:24,948 I would place them in the '20s or '30s. 672 00:31:24,950 --> 00:31:27,985 There was something Bonnie and Clyde-ish about them. 673 00:31:27,987 --> 00:31:31,688 They were extremely rebellious when they were alive, 674 00:31:31,690 --> 00:31:35,158 and they are the same now in death. 675 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:38,896 I think that different ways you would experience them 676 00:31:38,898 --> 00:31:42,399 would be that they are constantly partying. 677 00:31:42,401 --> 00:31:43,967 So they make a lot of noise. 678 00:31:43,969 --> 00:31:47,137 You would hear them talking, laughing. 679 00:31:47,139 --> 00:31:50,674 They're constantly drinking and smoking. 680 00:31:50,676 --> 00:31:52,042 I think that you would, actually, 681 00:31:52,044 --> 00:31:54,578 might smell some of the smoke. 682 00:31:54,580 --> 00:31:57,848 There's the first bedroom over the kitchen, I think. 683 00:31:57,850 --> 00:31:59,416 They love it in there. 684 00:31:59,418 --> 00:32:00,784 They kind of go nuts in there, 685 00:32:00,786 --> 00:32:03,287 and so they're bumping into walls and the doors. 686 00:32:03,289 --> 00:32:05,989 They're flopping on the bed together. 687 00:32:05,991 --> 00:32:07,557 The living would experience 688 00:32:07,559 --> 00:32:10,761 that kind of activity and energy 689 00:32:10,763 --> 00:32:12,596 as anxiety, 690 00:32:12,598 --> 00:32:13,830 and I, honestly, don't know 691 00:32:13,832 --> 00:32:16,934 how anybody can get any sleep up there. 692 00:32:16,936 --> 00:32:20,170 The couple can also make people sick. 693 00:32:20,172 --> 00:32:23,373 The other thing I got, and this bothered me, 694 00:32:23,375 --> 00:32:26,310 the male indicated that he can become physical 695 00:32:26,312 --> 00:32:29,513 and that he may have punched some people. 696 00:32:29,515 --> 00:32:31,181 You hit on a lot of experiences 697 00:32:31,183 --> 00:32:33,150 our clients are dealing with here. 698 00:32:33,152 --> 00:32:34,885 Let's take them one at a time. 699 00:32:34,887 --> 00:32:37,854 Lisa, you've heard voices and conversations. 700 00:32:37,856 --> 00:32:38,956 That damn laughing. 701 00:32:38,958 --> 00:32:40,624 Kids' friends don't stay the night any more 702 00:32:40,626 --> 00:32:41,992 because they get kept up all night 703 00:32:41,994 --> 00:32:43,260 from the damn laughing. 704 00:32:43,262 --> 00:32:44,594 You guys both smell cigarettes, 705 00:32:44,596 --> 00:32:47,297 but no one in the house smokes, right? 706 00:32:47,299 --> 00:32:48,765 Yeah, Lisa and I both have. 707 00:32:48,767 --> 00:32:50,934 We brought it to each other's attention. 708 00:32:50,936 --> 00:32:53,737 Something Amy talked about, you and I discussed upstairs, 709 00:32:53,739 --> 00:32:55,138 the bed being shook. 710 00:32:55,140 --> 00:32:57,140 It's like somebody's bumping into the bed. 711 00:32:57,142 --> 00:32:58,375 Mm-hmm. 712 00:32:58,377 --> 00:33:00,277 It's not just like, you know, a little knock. 713 00:33:00,279 --> 00:33:02,179 It's really a jolt. 714 00:33:02,181 --> 00:33:04,381 Your daughter, Kortney, and you have been grabbed 715 00:33:04,383 --> 00:33:06,249 by the foot or the ankle? 716 00:33:06,251 --> 00:33:09,286 Yeah, you can feel like somebody puts their hands on you, 717 00:33:09,288 --> 00:33:10,554 and it's a good shake. 718 00:33:10,556 --> 00:33:12,956 Could you tell if it was male or female? 719 00:33:12,958 --> 00:33:15,826 It's either a weak man or strong woman. 720 00:33:15,828 --> 00:33:17,427 That's interesting. 721 00:33:17,429 --> 00:33:19,563 Amy, you also said they can make people sick. 722 00:33:19,565 --> 00:33:22,566 Lisa, do me a favor and tell Amy what you've been going through. 723 00:33:22,568 --> 00:33:24,234 Yeah. My heart'll just race. 724 00:33:24,236 --> 00:33:25,802 My chest will get tight. 725 00:33:25,804 --> 00:33:27,471 I went through... 726 00:33:27,473 --> 00:33:31,174 I don't know, months of passing out, 727 00:33:31,176 --> 00:33:34,878 and it's not uncommon to wake up with migraines. 728 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,748 So this is being caused by this gangster couple. 729 00:33:37,750 --> 00:33:39,916 I think the majority of it is. 730 00:33:39,918 --> 00:33:43,153 The migraines might be something else. 731 00:33:43,155 --> 00:33:44,988 Now, why are they doing this? 732 00:33:44,990 --> 00:33:48,825 They have felt like the living have tried to attack them, 733 00:33:48,827 --> 00:33:51,428 and I was trying to talk to them about 734 00:33:51,430 --> 00:33:54,398 how the living were doing this to them. 735 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:55,799 And they told me that 736 00:33:55,801 --> 00:33:58,001 they were banished to the darkness. 737 00:33:58,003 --> 00:33:59,603 Lisa, tell her about who you brought in 738 00:33:59,605 --> 00:34:00,804 and what they did. 739 00:34:00,806 --> 00:34:03,040 I had a coven pagan high priestess 740 00:34:03,042 --> 00:34:05,909 come to do a circle ritual for cleansing, 741 00:34:05,911 --> 00:34:08,745 and there was some good stern get out. 742 00:34:08,747 --> 00:34:11,281 Can we assume that when she did that, 743 00:34:11,283 --> 00:34:12,516 it made things worse? 744 00:34:12,518 --> 00:34:14,951 Yeah, when I spoke to the dead couple, 745 00:34:14,953 --> 00:34:18,889 they said it's been extremely emotionally, 746 00:34:18,891 --> 00:34:21,258 you know, distressing for them. 747 00:34:21,260 --> 00:34:22,659 We've seen it before where people say 748 00:34:22,661 --> 00:34:24,694 they've had teams come in. 749 00:34:24,696 --> 00:34:26,463 Next thing you know, everything gets worse. 750 00:34:29,201 --> 00:34:30,967 You have several dead people here, 751 00:34:30,969 --> 00:34:33,470 but one woman really stands out. 752 00:34:33,472 --> 00:34:34,471 This is the person that 753 00:34:34,473 --> 00:34:36,740 I'm the most concerned about here. 754 00:34:36,742 --> 00:34:40,210 I got that she would have been here in the 1800s. 755 00:34:40,212 --> 00:34:42,245 I felt that she lived here, 756 00:34:42,247 --> 00:34:44,714 either in this house, or on this property. 757 00:34:44,716 --> 00:34:46,750 I thought that she might have been rich 758 00:34:46,752 --> 00:34:48,785 or came from a wealthy family. 759 00:34:48,787 --> 00:34:50,120 I believe she was a widow 760 00:34:50,122 --> 00:34:51,855 and that she suffered a lot of loss 761 00:34:51,857 --> 00:34:55,258 because the initial thing she showed me were four graves, 762 00:34:55,260 --> 00:34:58,295 and she kept saying that she buried four. 763 00:34:58,297 --> 00:35:01,465 Initially, I felt bad because she told me, 764 00:35:01,467 --> 00:35:07,504 "I am damned to walk their graves for eternity." 765 00:35:07,506 --> 00:35:09,840 And then I got the impression 766 00:35:09,842 --> 00:35:13,243 that she possibly made her family sick. 767 00:35:13,245 --> 00:35:15,745 I think she might have poisoned them. 768 00:35:15,747 --> 00:35:17,247 What you're saying made me think 769 00:35:17,249 --> 00:35:18,915 of someone who actually lived her. 770 00:35:18,917 --> 00:35:21,518 Back in 1889, a woman named Mary Bement 771 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:22,752 moved onto this property 772 00:35:22,754 --> 00:35:25,088 after she married her husband, George. 773 00:35:25,090 --> 00:35:28,325 George and Mary built this house in the early 1890s. 774 00:35:28,327 --> 00:35:30,894 Nobody knows why, but George, her husband, 775 00:35:30,896 --> 00:35:32,863 committed suicide in 1899 776 00:35:32,865 --> 00:35:34,965 by walking in front of a freight train 777 00:35:34,967 --> 00:35:36,600 right down the block from here. 778 00:35:36,602 --> 00:35:38,435 You said you thought she was wealthy. 779 00:35:38,437 --> 00:35:40,604 Mary, George's widow, inherited the property 780 00:35:40,606 --> 00:35:42,339 as well as George's assets. 781 00:35:42,341 --> 00:35:44,541 Mary immediately moved her family in -- 782 00:35:44,543 --> 00:35:47,577 her mother and father and her brother and her uncle. 783 00:35:47,579 --> 00:35:49,479 Well, as soon as these people moved in with Mary, 784 00:35:49,481 --> 00:35:51,248 they started dropping dead. 785 00:35:51,250 --> 00:35:52,649 No [bleep] way. 786 00:35:52,651 --> 00:35:54,684 You saw four graves. 787 00:35:54,686 --> 00:35:57,654 All four of her family members died in this house. 788 00:35:57,656 --> 00:36:01,258 I got a stack of obits and death certificates here. 789 00:36:01,260 --> 00:36:03,260 Now, none of the death records report any poisoning, 790 00:36:03,262 --> 00:36:05,595 but back in those days, unless you had an indication 791 00:36:05,597 --> 00:36:07,564 for it, why would you check for it? 792 00:36:07,566 --> 00:36:10,901 Mary stayed at the house by herself here for 14 more years. 793 00:36:10,903 --> 00:36:13,670 She also died in the house in 1923. 794 00:36:13,672 --> 00:36:17,073 After Mary passed away, the house went to her brother. 795 00:36:17,075 --> 00:36:19,576 Now, her brother and his family moved into the house. 796 00:36:19,578 --> 00:36:23,313 Shortly after that, four more of them died in the house. 797 00:36:23,315 --> 00:36:24,581 I got their death certificates right here. 798 00:36:24,583 --> 00:36:26,917 Oh, she did. 799 00:36:26,919 --> 00:36:29,119 Now, you got a total of nine deaths in the house 800 00:36:29,121 --> 00:36:31,888 and her husband, who killed himself, which is 10. 801 00:36:31,890 --> 00:36:34,024 Is it possible Mary is the widow you saw? 802 00:36:34,026 --> 00:36:36,426 Yeah. 803 00:36:36,428 --> 00:36:38,395 Okay, so you're convinced that she killed 804 00:36:38,397 --> 00:36:39,930 everybody in this house when she was alive. 805 00:36:39,932 --> 00:36:40,897 Yes. All right. 806 00:36:40,899 --> 00:36:41,665 Now, what about the other people? 807 00:36:41,667 --> 00:36:44,401 She's killed everybody. 808 00:36:44,403 --> 00:36:46,903 So she killed those other four while she was dead. 809 00:36:46,905 --> 00:36:49,239 Yes. 810 00:36:49,241 --> 00:36:52,642 She's a serial killer. 811 00:36:52,644 --> 00:36:54,444 She's extremely advanced and dangerous, 812 00:36:54,446 --> 00:36:56,112 and there's many, 813 00:36:56,114 --> 00:36:58,782 many different ways you would experience her. 814 00:36:58,784 --> 00:37:00,217 I think they would feel a presence. 815 00:37:00,219 --> 00:37:03,186 I think they would feel something hovering over them. 816 00:37:03,188 --> 00:37:04,454 And when she does this, 817 00:37:04,456 --> 00:37:06,923 the living might feel like they're choking. 818 00:37:06,925 --> 00:37:11,027 You tell the story about the thing hovering above your bed. 819 00:37:11,029 --> 00:37:12,529 We were getting ready to go to bed. 820 00:37:12,531 --> 00:37:15,732 I saw a shadow figure of some sort in our doorway, 821 00:37:15,734 --> 00:37:18,501 and, next thing we know, it is hovering, 822 00:37:18,503 --> 00:37:20,804 floating over the top of us. 823 00:37:20,806 --> 00:37:22,439 We were frozen. We couldn't speak. 824 00:37:22,441 --> 00:37:24,107 It felt like we couldn't breathe. 825 00:37:24,109 --> 00:37:25,308 Wow. 826 00:37:25,310 --> 00:37:27,978 The room in the front with the two beds 827 00:37:27,980 --> 00:37:30,747 is her main, like, area. 828 00:37:30,749 --> 00:37:32,882 So that's where Jayden and Mason sleep, right? 829 00:37:32,884 --> 00:37:34,017 Yeah. 830 00:37:34,019 --> 00:37:35,986 She was saying that she hates children, 831 00:37:35,988 --> 00:37:38,688 especially if they're under the age of 18. 832 00:37:40,659 --> 00:37:42,659 So she'll actually sit on the side of the bed, 833 00:37:42,661 --> 00:37:44,261 and she's actually taking her finger 834 00:37:44,263 --> 00:37:46,963 and pushing various parts of the brain. 835 00:37:46,965 --> 00:37:50,400 She can cause headaches, memory lapses, 836 00:37:50,402 --> 00:37:54,204 extreme personality swings and seizures. 837 00:37:54,206 --> 00:37:56,673 Amy, Lisa moved in here with her ex, 838 00:37:56,675 --> 00:37:57,941 and his personality changed a lot 839 00:37:57,943 --> 00:37:59,209 while he was here as well, right? 840 00:37:59,211 --> 00:38:00,410 Yeah. 841 00:38:00,412 --> 00:38:02,512 Could that be the influence of this woman? 842 00:38:02,514 --> 00:38:05,115 It could absolutely be her. 843 00:38:05,117 --> 00:38:08,285 I had a sketch done of an example 844 00:38:08,287 --> 00:38:10,820 of what she is doing. 845 00:38:17,329 --> 00:38:18,495 Are you kidding me? 846 00:38:18,497 --> 00:38:21,331 I don't even know what to say about that. 847 00:38:26,171 --> 00:38:28,972 I'm thinking, "This thing is this close to my kid." 848 00:38:32,177 --> 00:38:33,376 What's happening in my own home, 849 00:38:33,378 --> 00:38:35,912 and I can't put any type of stop to it. 850 00:38:35,914 --> 00:38:38,248 It's very disturbing. 851 00:38:38,250 --> 00:38:40,750 How much danger do you think the kids are in? 852 00:38:40,752 --> 00:38:43,720 This is really bad... 853 00:38:45,490 --> 00:38:46,956 ...for everyone. 854 00:38:46,958 --> 00:38:48,658 If this goes unchecked, what happens? 855 00:38:48,660 --> 00:38:53,029 Left unchecked, she would kill everybody. 856 00:38:53,965 --> 00:38:57,367 Everybody here is in danger. 857 00:38:57,369 --> 00:39:00,537 Everyone is in jeopardy. 858 00:39:15,954 --> 00:39:18,054 Well, Lisa and Brad, it's probably a good thing 859 00:39:18,056 --> 00:39:19,789 you called us in when you did. 860 00:39:19,791 --> 00:39:21,858 Now, we know who's been attacking you people 861 00:39:21,860 --> 00:39:23,927 and scaring the hell out of your kids. 862 00:39:23,929 --> 00:39:27,163 But the big question is, is it safe for you to safe here, 863 00:39:27,165 --> 00:39:29,065 or should you just pack up your bags 864 00:39:29,067 --> 00:39:30,867 and get the hell out? 865 00:39:30,869 --> 00:39:32,669 For that answer, I'm going to turn it over to Amy. 866 00:39:35,674 --> 00:39:38,074 So, I want to be clear here. 867 00:39:38,076 --> 00:39:43,913 You do need to vacate the house as soon as possible. 868 00:39:43,915 --> 00:39:47,016 And upon doing that, you need to have, 869 00:39:47,018 --> 00:39:49,819 waiting for you, a healer. 870 00:39:49,821 --> 00:39:54,157 What they will do is remove all the attachments 871 00:39:54,159 --> 00:39:58,128 that she has formed to all of you guys. 872 00:39:58,130 --> 00:40:02,766 So you need to have those severed as quickly as possible. 873 00:40:02,768 --> 00:40:04,834 The only way to remove her 874 00:40:04,836 --> 00:40:09,906 is going to be via a priest, 875 00:40:09,908 --> 00:40:11,608 exorcism. 876 00:40:12,744 --> 00:40:15,845 Once you have all of the stuff done, 877 00:40:15,847 --> 00:40:19,983 you do have to help the dead that are trapped here. 878 00:40:19,985 --> 00:40:22,852 So you do need to have a medium come in 879 00:40:22,854 --> 00:40:26,723 so that they can leave and be free and clear. 880 00:40:26,725 --> 00:40:28,458 And then, if they did all that, 881 00:40:28,460 --> 00:40:30,660 could they come back to the house? 882 00:40:30,662 --> 00:40:33,029 Yeah. 883 00:40:33,031 --> 00:40:36,766 But I say, you know, burn the [bleep] down. 884 00:40:39,738 --> 00:40:42,705 Don't let anybody else ever [bleep] live here 885 00:40:42,707 --> 00:40:45,909 or have this property because it's bad. 886 00:40:45,911 --> 00:40:46,910 Yeah. 887 00:40:46,912 --> 00:40:48,745 Normally, I would say to people, 888 00:40:48,747 --> 00:40:50,580 you know, are you going to take Amy's advice? 889 00:40:50,582 --> 00:40:52,949 Are you going to take Amy's advice? 890 00:40:52,951 --> 00:40:55,885 It's almost like you got no choice here. 891 00:40:55,887 --> 00:40:58,221 I don't think staying's an option. 892 00:41:00,325 --> 00:41:03,126 I wouldn't put the kids at risk for anything. 893 00:41:03,128 --> 00:41:05,028 I don't care how attached I am. 894 00:41:05,030 --> 00:41:07,397 How about you, Brad? How do you feel about that? 895 00:41:07,399 --> 00:41:09,666 I'm for moving. 896 00:41:09,668 --> 00:41:11,968 This is my family you're talking about. 897 00:41:11,970 --> 00:41:13,703 Got to do what we got to do. 898 00:41:13,705 --> 00:41:15,271 Yeah. 899 00:41:15,273 --> 00:41:17,373 Memories will be there. 900 00:41:17,375 --> 00:41:19,375 You can take those with you. 901 00:41:19,377 --> 00:41:22,312 But if something happens, that's just something that 902 00:41:22,314 --> 00:41:25,281 I don't want riding on us. 903 00:41:25,283 --> 00:41:28,585 Can actually clean up the mess and get it taken care of. 904 00:41:28,587 --> 00:41:31,421 We'll stand and battle together. 905 00:41:31,423 --> 00:41:34,390 I wish I had better news for Lisa and Brad, 906 00:41:34,392 --> 00:41:36,860 but the widow has become so powerful 907 00:41:36,862 --> 00:41:39,762 that the only way to ensure their family remains safe 908 00:41:39,764 --> 00:41:41,998 is to leave and then have everyone 909 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,100 in the family exercised. 910 00:41:44,150 --> 00:41:48,700 Repair and Synchronization by Easy Subtitles Synchronizer 1.0.0.0 68576

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