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Everyone is in jeopardy.
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She's, definitely,
a serial killer.
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If somebody grabbed me in bed,
I'd be running out the door.
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They wouldn't mind if there was
never any living people here.
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That was the turning point.
I wasn't a skeptic any more.
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She's completely insane.
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Everybody here is in danger.
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This seems like a possession.
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My name is Amy Allan.
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Everything was built on blood.
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I see dead people.
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Very disturbing.
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I speak to dead people.
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There's victims around him.
Ow.
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And they speak to me.
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Her voice sounds like death.
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But there's only one way
to know if my findings are real.
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The living don't
stand a chance here.
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I rely on my partner.
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I'm Steve Di Schiavi.
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I'm a retired New York City
homicide detective.
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You could have
got killed.
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And I know every person,
every house has secrets.
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This is coming
straight from Hell.
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It's my job to reveal them.
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Your mom was murdered
right here in this room?
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Yes, she was.
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But Steve and I never speak...
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We never communicate
during an investigation.
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...until the very end...
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This was
just the beginning.
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...when we uncover
if it's safe for you to stay...
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Oh, my God.
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...or time to get out.
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They're very bad.
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This house
is going to kill me.
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I'm in the small town of
Victor, New York,
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about a half hour south
of Rochester.
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I got a call from a woman
who's desperate
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to keep her family safe.
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She and her husband
are ex-military,
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but they have no idea
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how to fight
whatever's in their house.
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She told me she's out
of options,
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and if Amy and I can't help,
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death isn't far behind.
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Before Amy arrives,
I clear the area
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of any leading information --
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dream catchers, personal items,
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and family photos
can influence her findings.
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So it's important
that I remove them all.
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When I'm done, the location will
be ready for tonight's walk.
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Oh, boy.
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This isn't good.
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There's dead people in here.
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They were like, "Who
the [bleep] is this [bleep]?"
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There was a battle.
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A battle was had.
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They claimed this space.
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It is not good.
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So, Lisa,
when we spoke on the phone,
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you sounded like you were
at the end of your rope.
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But what exactly
is happening here?
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The activity's at a level --
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It's just out of control
at this point.
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One of the main reasons
I took the case
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is 'cause
there's kids involved.
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Who exactly lives
in the house?
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Well, there's mine, his,
and ours, we call it
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Our crazy eight.
Wow.
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Now, are all six kids
having experiences?
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Oh, yeah.
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Did you guys all move in
together?
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No, it was me and my ex-husband
and our three children.
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We were here
about a year and a half,
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and then he and I separated
and started the divorce.
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When we moved in,
his personality
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was slowly escalating
from bad to worse,
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like all-out fits of rage,
zero patience,
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daily attack is
what it felt like.
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And this was not
what you dealt with
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before you moved
in the house.
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No, not like this.
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So, Lisa,
not to pick on you,
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but why would you stay
in a house
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that you think might have
caused your divorce?
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My family's been here
since as long as I can remember.
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So, this house is not
just a house to you.
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It's memories.
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Yeah.
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Did you have experiences
in this house
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when you were younger?
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Yeah.
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The biggest one I can remember,
just walking up the staircase,
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and it was like you'd scramble
to get upstairs
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like somebody's right behind you
trying to get you.
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So, Lisa, if you can,
just give me an idea
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what you guys
are going through.
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You smell things.
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There's been a number
of apparition,
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shadow figures,
started to get physical.
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Have you done anything
to try to combat what's here?
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Brought in a pagan
high priestess
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to do a cleansing ritual.
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Did it work?
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Got better for a little while
before it would kind of
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come back again
and escalate from there.
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You think what's here
is dangerous?
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Absolutely,
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and what's already
happened to me
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I don't want
happening to the kids.
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How you holding up?
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Not very well.
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It's hard on everybody.
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It's hard to watch them
be put through it.
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You know, if it were just me,
it'd be one thing.
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So what are you hoping
we can do for you?
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Given what we've done
hasn't worked,
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if there's any other way
to stop the activity,
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eliminate the fear,
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you know,
make it a home again.
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The dead feel like the living
are fighting with them.
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They're being mean to them,
and they're trying to hurt them.
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Do they say what the living
are doing to them?
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Yeah,
I'm trying to get that.
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Living temporarily
put them in blackness.
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The intention from
the living is not good.
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I'm seeing
a woman and a man.
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They're a rowdy couple.
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I think maybe they liked
Bonnie and Clyde.
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They're drinking.
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They're smoking.
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Woman says, "This is where
we hide from the living."
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Okay, Lisa.
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So what kind of experiences
are you having?
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There's voices
all over the house.
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You can hear it,
no matter where you are,
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just like somebody's
talking in another room.
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Can you make out
if it's a male or a female?
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There's only one male voice
I've heard in the bedroom,
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and you wake up
to somebody yelling,
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"Hey," real loud.
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What else?
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You get an odd fragrance
from time to time,
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and I say odd because
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they're nothing
that would pertain to us.
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So describe
the smells to me.
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There's cologne,
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tobacco smoke of some kind.
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Okay. So,
where do you smell them?
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The cologne's a little bit
of everywhere.
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The smoke
is only upstairs.
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Your husband smoke?
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Nobody smokes.
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You have a couple up here
who is partying all the time
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and, basically,
creating havoc for the living.
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The dead couple,
they smoke all the time.
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The living would smell it,
taste it, breathe it in,
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and they would hear this couple,
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the talking and the laughing,
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and they're hearing music.
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The couple gets wasted,
and then they're, like,
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banging into the wall.
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I think that this would make
the living anxious.
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I feel like
they did bad things.
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They want to do bad things.
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It's not good.
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What's going on here?
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You'll feel shoves
in the side of the bed,
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like somebody fell into it
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or pushed on it real hard,
you know.
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I know you guys have
a few dogs.
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You sure it's not them?
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Definitely not.
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Okay.
Anything else?
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I've had my foot grabbed
laying here in bed.
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Feel like a human hand?
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Yeah.
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It could be a smaller man,
if it is a man,
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or a good, strong woman,
if it is a woman.
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Somebody grabbed me in bed,
I'd be running out the door.
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What else is going on?
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Oh, it just seems like ever
since we moved here,
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my health, in general, has
just gotten worse.
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I go through every single day
with some level of pain.
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It's taking whatever
I have left of me.
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And then I'm not even around
to protect the kids.
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So, Lisa, from what you told me,
you're a wife.
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You're a mom.
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You're a step-mom
being frightened.
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You got a lot
on your shoulders.
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Well, I'd like to think
that as a soldier,
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you're taught
to stand and fight.
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You don't retreat.
You don't back down.
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You don't
leave anybody behind.
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A little different,
we're not on the battlefield.
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Different battlefield.
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Do you feel like you're
doing this all on your own?
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Sometimes, yeah,
a lot of the time.
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It breaks my heart to see
you going through this,
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being upset by it.
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Yeah.
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Is this dead couple
aware of the living?
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Yes.
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They're very aware,
and they know their environment,
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and living people
are in the bed
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and flopping into the bed.
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Do they have any intent
toward the living.
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They wouldn't mind
if there was
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never any living people here
to get in their way.
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I don't know how the people get
any [bleep] sleep here.
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You know, imagine
living with two
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raging alcoholics/party people.
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The living are probably
feeling sick.
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This dead guy,
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he can get physical
with the living.
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They would feel like
they were getting hit.
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Any idea why
he's doing that?
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He's retaliating
against them
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for banishing them
to the darkness.
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So, Brad,
I was talking to Lisa.
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She told me some
really strange stuff
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that's going on
in this house.
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Did she even tell you
this place was haunted
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before you moved in?
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She touched
a little on it.
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She explained
some of the interactions
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the children have had.
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When you heard that,
what did you think?
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That they were just stories
like everything else.
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So, now that
you've been here a while,
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you still a skeptic?
No.
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My mind has definitely
changed on that.
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What were the experiences
that changed your mind?
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I feel like I'm just
being watched
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ever since I've come
to the property.
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Where are you
feeling watched?
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Everywhere.
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It's the whole house,
even outside.
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Okay, anything else?
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One night, the wife and I
were laying in bed,
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and we saw
this dark shadow,
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and it was hovering
over top of us.
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We were frozen --
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couldn't move,
couldn't speak,
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felt like
we couldn't breathe.
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Okay, so you both were
seeing this?
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Yes,
and it was just all dark.
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That was the turning point.
I wasn't a skeptic any more.
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You have six kids here.
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You got to be
worried about them.
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Yeah.
Feel helpless.
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If a guy came into the house,
I could handle it hands on.
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What I can't see is
mind wrecking.
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There's this other woman
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who did live her.
257
00:11:38,265 --> 00:11:40,632
I think she's a widow.
258
00:11:40,634 --> 00:11:43,535
The living are very affected
by this woman.
259
00:11:43,537 --> 00:11:46,438
Can't, like, get away
from her if you want to.
260
00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:49,541
This chick is
a big [bleep] problem.
261
00:11:49,543 --> 00:11:53,945
They would probably perceive
something hovering over them.
262
00:11:55,782 --> 00:11:58,583
I'm getting that she tried
to kill someone here.
263
00:12:07,494 --> 00:12:08,727
So, Kortney,
I was talking to Mom
264
00:12:08,729 --> 00:12:10,395
and stuff that's
going on here.
265
00:12:10,397 --> 00:12:11,863
And she told me you
were, what, 18?
266
00:12:11,865 --> 00:12:13,531
Mm-hmm.
Okay.
267
00:12:13,533 --> 00:12:15,033
Now, what about
your own experiences?
268
00:12:15,035 --> 00:12:16,267
Have you had any?
269
00:12:16,269 --> 00:12:17,569
A couple, yeah.
270
00:12:17,571 --> 00:12:21,639
I saw an apparition
of a small black creature.
271
00:12:21,641 --> 00:12:23,508
Okay.
Describe it to me.
272
00:12:23,510 --> 00:12:26,878
Well, it was very black
and kind of bony.
273
00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:28,513
You could see that it
was very skinny
274
00:12:28,515 --> 00:12:30,115
and about 4-feet tall
275
00:12:30,117 --> 00:12:33,585
and, like, it drew a fist back
like it was going to hit me.
276
00:12:33,587 --> 00:12:35,420
Okay.
Anything else?
277
00:12:35,422 --> 00:12:38,156
I was sleeping one night,
and something grabbed my foot.
278
00:12:38,158 --> 00:12:39,557
Okay.
279
00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:42,627
It was just kind of, like,
a force being dragged backwards.
280
00:12:42,629 --> 00:12:43,862
On both feet or just one?
281
00:12:43,864 --> 00:12:45,930
Just one.
Okay.
282
00:12:45,932 --> 00:12:47,265
Did you have any marks
on your feet or anything
283
00:12:47,267 --> 00:12:48,800
like that,
nothing around the ankles?
284
00:12:48,802 --> 00:12:50,101
No.
285
00:12:50,103 --> 00:12:53,204
Now, do you think your younger
siblings are in danger here?
286
00:12:53,206 --> 00:12:55,206
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
287
00:12:59,379 --> 00:13:02,514
This dead lady who lived here,
she's evil.
288
00:13:02,516 --> 00:13:03,982
She's mad.
289
00:13:03,984 --> 00:13:05,717
She was on my shoulders.
290
00:13:05,719 --> 00:13:07,185
This is something
she likes to do,
291
00:13:07,187 --> 00:13:11,122
is stand behind people
or crawl up on their back
292
00:13:11,124 --> 00:13:14,259
and then push down
on their shoulders.
293
00:13:16,463 --> 00:13:21,199
She makes people
feel extreme stress.
294
00:13:23,036 --> 00:13:26,805
She wants everybody,
living and dead,
295
00:13:26,807 --> 00:13:28,740
out of this [bleep] house.
296
00:13:28,742 --> 00:13:30,074
She's a problem.
297
00:13:36,883 --> 00:13:38,116
I started
talking to the boys
298
00:13:38,118 --> 00:13:40,185
to see what
experiences they've had.
299
00:13:40,187 --> 00:13:42,320
When I was playing games,
I heard, like,
300
00:13:42,322 --> 00:13:43,822
footsteps come up
behind me.
301
00:13:43,824 --> 00:13:45,390
But when I would, like,
look behind me,
302
00:13:45,392 --> 00:13:48,626
there would just be
nothing there.
303
00:13:48,628 --> 00:13:51,296
And everyone had
a story to tell.
304
00:13:51,298 --> 00:13:53,331
It was maybe 3:30
in the morning.
305
00:13:53,333 --> 00:13:57,202
It felt like somebody had placed
their hand on my left shoulder.
306
00:13:57,204 --> 00:14:01,573
It's really just --
I feel a presence.
307
00:14:01,575 --> 00:14:03,274
But it's what the little ones
had to tell me
308
00:14:03,276 --> 00:14:06,177
that really broke my heart.
309
00:14:06,179 --> 00:14:08,313
Dad says a lot of the stuff
that's going on here
310
00:14:08,315 --> 00:14:10,215
is really scaring
you guys.
311
00:14:10,217 --> 00:14:12,083
That true?
Yes.
312
00:14:12,085 --> 00:14:13,351
Mm-hmm.
313
00:14:13,353 --> 00:14:17,121
Scariest thing I saw
in the house was
314
00:14:17,123 --> 00:14:20,124
the door slam shut,
315
00:14:20,126 --> 00:14:23,528
and I didn't see anybody.
316
00:14:23,530 --> 00:14:25,763
The scariest thing I saw
in the house was
317
00:14:25,765 --> 00:14:28,900
the little boy
who walked up the stairs.
318
00:14:28,902 --> 00:14:30,335
Was he about your age,
319
00:14:30,337 --> 00:14:32,003
or your brother's age,
do you know?
320
00:14:32,005 --> 00:14:33,872
He was about...
321
00:14:33,874 --> 00:14:35,173
Oh, real tiny.
322
00:14:35,175 --> 00:14:36,040
Toddler.
323
00:14:36,042 --> 00:14:38,009
Oh, a toddler.
324
00:14:38,011 --> 00:14:39,677
Are you guys afraid
to be here?
325
00:14:39,679 --> 00:14:42,580
Yeah.
326
00:14:42,582 --> 00:14:43,781
All right.
327
00:14:46,686 --> 00:14:51,723
So this woman, the widow,
she comes in here.
328
00:14:51,725 --> 00:14:54,893
I don't think
she likes anyone,
329
00:14:54,895 --> 00:14:58,596
in particular,
under the age of 18.
330
00:14:58,598 --> 00:15:00,431
So that's a problem.
331
00:15:00,433 --> 00:15:03,902
Yeah, she likes to [bleep]
hurt people's necks.
332
00:15:03,904 --> 00:15:07,005
She's showing me, like,
doing stuff to their bones
333
00:15:07,007 --> 00:15:08,740
and their skulls,
334
00:15:08,742 --> 00:15:10,408
and she's very into it.
335
00:15:10,410 --> 00:15:12,410
Feel like doing [bleep]
to their brains.
336
00:15:12,412 --> 00:15:14,012
What is she doing
to their brains?
337
00:15:14,014 --> 00:15:15,947
She's exploring them.
338
00:15:15,949 --> 00:15:21,552
The living might have, like,
memory lapses, headaches.
339
00:15:21,554 --> 00:15:23,221
It's almost like,
while she's doing it,
340
00:15:23,223 --> 00:15:26,858
they're having
some kind of seizures.
341
00:15:26,860 --> 00:15:29,027
Do you know
why she's doing that?
342
00:15:29,029 --> 00:15:31,629
Because she's
completely insane,
343
00:15:31,631 --> 00:15:34,098
and she can do
whatever she wants now.
344
00:15:48,048 --> 00:15:50,315
So, the first thing I did was
make my usual calls --
345
00:15:50,317 --> 00:15:53,451
local law enforcement,
historians, et cetera.
346
00:15:53,453 --> 00:15:55,420
Turns out the guy
who built Lisa's house
347
00:15:55,422 --> 00:15:58,022
killed himself by jumping
in front of a train.
348
00:15:58,024 --> 00:15:59,324
I'm heading over to meet
with an author
349
00:15:59,326 --> 00:16:01,526
who says what happened
to his widow afterwards
350
00:16:01,528 --> 00:16:03,294
is even more of a tragedy.
351
00:16:11,204 --> 00:16:12,537
So what can
you tell me about this guy
352
00:16:12,539 --> 00:16:13,972
that jumped
in front of the train?
353
00:16:13,974 --> 00:16:17,408
George Bement is his name,
and he was a native of Victor,
354
00:16:17,410 --> 00:16:21,412
and he married a spinster
named Mary Brown in 1889.
355
00:16:21,414 --> 00:16:23,014
How did they come
onto the property?
356
00:16:23,016 --> 00:16:26,617
The next year, his mom passes
and left him the land,
357
00:16:26,619 --> 00:16:29,020
and then he and Mary built
this big house
358
00:16:29,022 --> 00:16:30,755
that your client
came to own.
359
00:16:30,757 --> 00:16:32,457
Take me to the day
he gets killed.
360
00:16:32,459 --> 00:16:33,524
What happened?
361
00:16:33,526 --> 00:16:36,894
Well, it was
22nd of April, 1899,
362
00:16:36,896 --> 00:16:38,563
and he came to
the train crossing.
363
00:16:38,565 --> 00:16:40,765
For some reason,
the gate was down,
364
00:16:40,767 --> 00:16:42,100
but he went around it,
365
00:16:42,102 --> 00:16:44,302
and he stepped in front
of a moving locomotive
366
00:16:44,304 --> 00:16:45,570
going 40 miles an hour.
367
00:16:45,572 --> 00:16:47,572
So this guy's body must have
been a mess.
368
00:16:47,574 --> 00:16:49,874
Yeah, it was thrown
across the street.
369
00:16:49,876 --> 00:16:52,677
1,700 feet from his home,
he died instantly.
370
00:16:52,679 --> 00:16:55,580
Was there any information
out there that said
371
00:16:55,582 --> 00:16:57,815
he might have been down and out
and depressed or anything?
372
00:16:57,817 --> 00:16:59,217
No, I don't think
he was down and out
373
00:16:59,219 --> 00:17:01,219
because he left his wife
an inheritance.
374
00:17:01,221 --> 00:17:02,487
All right.
So George is dead.
375
00:17:02,489 --> 00:17:04,756
Now, you mentioned on the phone
that his widow
376
00:17:04,758 --> 00:17:07,125
suffered more tragedy
after he died.
377
00:17:07,127 --> 00:17:08,593
What'd you mean?
378
00:17:08,595 --> 00:17:11,763
Yeah. Well, Mary moved in her
extended family right away.
379
00:17:11,765 --> 00:17:14,465
She moved in both parents,
a brother and an uncle.
380
00:17:14,467 --> 00:17:15,733
Okay.
So what happened?
381
00:17:15,735 --> 00:17:19,670
Within the first nine years,
all four of them died.
382
00:17:19,672 --> 00:17:22,940
So I have the four death records
for you right here.
383
00:17:22,942 --> 00:17:25,043
Was there anything unusual
about these deaths?
384
00:17:25,045 --> 00:17:27,445
Just the frequency,
I would say.
385
00:17:27,447 --> 00:17:28,646
Okay.
So what happens to her?
386
00:17:28,648 --> 00:17:30,748
She remained in the home
another 14 years
387
00:17:30,750 --> 00:17:34,152
until her own death
in the house in 1923.
388
00:17:34,154 --> 00:17:36,354
I have a copy of Mary's
death certificate here.
389
00:17:36,356 --> 00:17:38,756
She was 73 years of age
when she died.
390
00:17:38,758 --> 00:17:40,258
All right.
So what happens to the property?
391
00:17:40,260 --> 00:17:41,426
In the last year of her life,
392
00:17:41,428 --> 00:17:43,861
she transferred the property
to her brother, Abry,
393
00:17:43,863 --> 00:17:45,196
and while Abry was
living there,
394
00:17:45,198 --> 00:17:47,765
four more people died
in the house,
395
00:17:47,767 --> 00:17:51,135
and I have those death records
here, as well.
396
00:17:51,137 --> 00:17:53,838
So we've got the possible
suicide of the original owner
397
00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:56,340
and nine deaths
inside the house.
398
00:17:56,342 --> 00:17:59,210
I haven't seen this many bodies
since I was working in homicide.
399
00:18:03,216 --> 00:18:04,549
Something's
really wrong.
400
00:18:04,551 --> 00:18:06,884
I think this dead widow
is able to influence
401
00:18:06,886 --> 00:18:09,520
the living
to do horrible things.
402
00:18:09,522 --> 00:18:12,156
People here will be, like,
out of the blue,
403
00:18:12,158 --> 00:18:14,525
for no [bleep] reason,
kill themselves.
404
00:18:17,197 --> 00:18:18,596
So, she, actually,
lived here.
405
00:18:18,598 --> 00:18:20,998
And then,
I got money with her.
406
00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:22,233
The one thing that
she showed me
407
00:18:22,235 --> 00:18:25,837
is that she has been
kind of damned
408
00:18:25,839 --> 00:18:29,774
to walk her family's graves.
409
00:18:34,047 --> 00:18:37,048
And there's four --
four people that are buried,
410
00:18:37,050 --> 00:18:41,319
that specifically belong to her
in this particular situation.
411
00:18:41,321 --> 00:18:45,923
I am suspicious that
she killed her family.
412
00:18:45,925 --> 00:18:48,626
She's, definitely,
a serial killer.
413
00:18:50,763 --> 00:18:52,597
I've just started
my investigation.
414
00:18:52,599 --> 00:18:55,533
I already have nine deaths
on my client's property.
415
00:18:55,535 --> 00:18:56,801
It's pretty staggering,
416
00:18:56,803 --> 00:18:58,836
but I need to see
if there's anything else.
417
00:19:00,874 --> 00:19:04,108
Searching through old records,
I find William Dryer.
418
00:19:04,110 --> 00:19:06,377
Turns out William's family
also suffered
419
00:19:06,379 --> 00:19:07,645
several unusual deaths
420
00:19:07,647 --> 00:19:10,414
during the time he lived
on Lisa's property.
421
00:19:10,416 --> 00:19:12,216
This is one
of the highest body counts
422
00:19:12,218 --> 00:19:14,552
I've ever seen
on a client's property.
423
00:19:14,554 --> 00:19:17,054
So, I'm headed over to meet
with a local genealogist
424
00:19:17,056 --> 00:19:19,323
who was looking into
the Dryer family for me.
425
00:19:25,231 --> 00:19:27,865
So, Barb, what can you tell me
about William Dryer?
426
00:19:27,867 --> 00:19:31,536
Well, William Dryer was born
in 1810 in Victor.
427
00:19:31,538 --> 00:19:34,172
Here is a picture
of the gentleman.
428
00:19:34,174 --> 00:19:37,475
So what did this guy, William,
do to make a living?
429
00:19:37,477 --> 00:19:38,876
Oh, he did a lot
of different things.
430
00:19:38,878 --> 00:19:39,677
He was a miller.
431
00:19:39,679 --> 00:19:41,112
He ran a hotel.
432
00:19:41,114 --> 00:19:43,080
He was a master carpenter.
433
00:19:43,082 --> 00:19:45,917
He was the postmaster of Victor
for many years.
434
00:19:45,919 --> 00:19:47,051
So what's the deal?
435
00:19:47,053 --> 00:19:49,387
Does this guy get married
and have a family?
436
00:19:49,389 --> 00:19:52,256
Well, in 1830,
he married a local girl
437
00:19:52,258 --> 00:19:53,724
named Caroline Wright,
438
00:19:53,726 --> 00:19:57,361
and in 1833, they had
a daughter named Julia.
439
00:19:57,363 --> 00:19:59,730
Shortly after this,
in 1834,
440
00:19:59,732 --> 00:20:02,633
he bought
a large parcel of land.
441
00:20:02,635 --> 00:20:05,102
Okay, and that land he bought is
where my clients live now?
442
00:20:05,104 --> 00:20:06,370
Yes.
443
00:20:06,372 --> 00:20:09,173
Shortly after the purchase
of this property,
444
00:20:09,175 --> 00:20:11,209
their daughter, Julia,
passes away
445
00:20:11,211 --> 00:20:12,777
at about the age
of a year.
446
00:20:12,779 --> 00:20:13,911
Any idea why?
447
00:20:13,913 --> 00:20:15,379
Well,
this is pre-death records.
448
00:20:15,381 --> 00:20:18,015
So we don't really know.
Okay.
449
00:20:18,017 --> 00:20:19,817
So, now William loses
his baby daughter.
450
00:20:19,819 --> 00:20:21,819
What happens with William
and Caroline at this point?
451
00:20:21,821 --> 00:20:26,557
Not long after Julia's death,
Caroline started to become sick.
452
00:20:26,559 --> 00:20:31,028
And she passed away
in 1837
453
00:20:31,030 --> 00:20:34,198
from one of the long forms
of consumption.
454
00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:35,233
So, she had TB.
455
00:20:35,235 --> 00:20:36,601
Right.
456
00:20:36,603 --> 00:20:39,837
And she was only 22
when she passed away.
457
00:20:39,839 --> 00:20:41,939
This is her obituary.
458
00:20:45,378 --> 00:20:47,144
So, what happens
to William?
459
00:20:47,146 --> 00:20:51,649
He married another local girl
named Phoebe Ball in 1839.
460
00:20:51,651 --> 00:20:53,084
So did they have kids?
461
00:20:53,086 --> 00:20:54,318
Yes, they had two.
462
00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:57,755
They had a son, and then
they had another daughter.
463
00:20:57,757 --> 00:21:02,226
Unfortunately, she passed away
when she was 16 years old.
464
00:21:02,228 --> 00:21:04,028
We know how she died?
465
00:21:04,030 --> 00:21:07,131
No, because we don't have
the death record.
466
00:21:07,133 --> 00:21:09,467
All right. So, William loses
his first wife,
467
00:21:09,469 --> 00:21:10,968
a child with her
and then another child
468
00:21:10,970 --> 00:21:13,004
with another wife.
Right.
469
00:21:13,006 --> 00:21:13,904
So, what happens
with William?
470
00:21:13,906 --> 00:21:17,642
He lived to be
80 years old.
471
00:21:17,644 --> 00:21:20,044
And there is a copy
of his obituary.
472
00:21:20,046 --> 00:21:22,380
He died in 1891.
473
00:21:22,382 --> 00:21:25,249
That's at least a dozen deaths
on my client's property.
474
00:21:25,251 --> 00:21:27,318
I've rarely seen
anything like it.
475
00:21:33,426 --> 00:21:37,695
I'm seeing these
older dead people.
476
00:21:37,697 --> 00:21:42,400
I feel like they died
from natural causes.
477
00:21:44,937 --> 00:21:47,505
They lived here, it seems like,
478
00:21:47,507 --> 00:21:49,206
for a bit.
479
00:21:49,208 --> 00:21:52,977
The older dead man I'm seeing
is very bitter.
480
00:21:52,979 --> 00:21:55,246
He was a laborer and, you know,
481
00:21:55,248 --> 00:21:57,148
like, building, construction,
482
00:21:57,150 --> 00:22:00,217
railroad, something like that.
483
00:22:00,219 --> 00:22:02,987
She might have been
a school teacher.
484
00:22:02,989 --> 00:22:07,425
So something happened
where her kid got sick.
485
00:22:07,427 --> 00:22:11,696
I'm seeing kid on the table,
and they had to do surgery.
486
00:22:14,434 --> 00:22:16,300
But then the kid died.
487
00:22:23,576 --> 00:22:25,142
If you need us
to investigate
488
00:22:25,144 --> 00:22:27,044
unexplained activity
in your home,
489
00:22:27,046 --> 00:22:29,914
go to the "Dead Files" page
at travelchannel.com.
490
00:22:29,916 --> 00:22:32,049
Click on "Help me, "Dead Files!"
to submit your story,
491
00:22:32,051 --> 00:22:32,750
and we'll help
if we can.
492
00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:43,694
So, another thing caught
my eye in research.
493
00:22:43,696 --> 00:22:46,564
Back in the 1900s, there was
a brutal double homicide
494
00:22:46,566 --> 00:22:48,899
that happened real close
to Lisa's property.
495
00:22:48,901 --> 00:22:52,236
So I called the local sheriff.
He knew all about the case.
496
00:22:52,238 --> 00:22:54,071
And he tells me it was
the bloodiest killing
497
00:22:54,073 --> 00:22:55,506
in the county's history.
498
00:23:02,849 --> 00:23:05,015
Well, Sheriff Povero,
you mentioned on the phone
499
00:23:05,017 --> 00:23:06,884
this double homicide
was pretty brutal.
500
00:23:06,886 --> 00:23:08,085
What can you tell me
about it?
501
00:23:08,087 --> 00:23:10,921
Well, back in 1918,
there was a farmer
502
00:23:10,923 --> 00:23:13,090
by the name
of McClellan Mosher.
503
00:23:13,092 --> 00:23:16,660
And he owned a farm
very near to the location
504
00:23:16,662 --> 00:23:18,028
that you're investigating.
505
00:23:18,030 --> 00:23:20,398
So what do we know
about this guy, Mosher?
506
00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,000
Mosher lived on the farm
with his wife
507
00:23:23,002 --> 00:23:25,469
and his 15-year-old daughter,
Blanche.
508
00:23:25,471 --> 00:23:28,172
They employed a farmhand
by the name of Earl Austin
509
00:23:28,174 --> 00:23:30,174
who was 32 years old.
510
00:23:30,176 --> 00:23:32,176
This is a picture
of Earl Austin
511
00:23:32,178 --> 00:23:34,979
that appeared in
the local newspaper at the time.
512
00:23:34,981 --> 00:23:37,214
All right.
So, I know this is our killer,
513
00:23:37,216 --> 00:23:38,682
but what happened
that night?
514
00:23:38,684 --> 00:23:41,419
Yeah, on April 27th, 1918,
515
00:23:41,421 --> 00:23:45,823
McClellan and Earl Austin
had an argument
516
00:23:45,825 --> 00:23:47,792
while they were
working on the farm.
517
00:23:47,794 --> 00:23:50,261
Austin left the farm,
518
00:23:50,263 --> 00:23:52,396
but he did come back
later that evening.
519
00:23:52,398 --> 00:23:55,466
He waited for Mosher
to go to sleep.
520
00:23:55,468 --> 00:23:59,904
Austin took an axe
into Mosher's bedroom,
521
00:23:59,906 --> 00:24:02,406
and he bludgeoned
them to death.
522
00:24:02,408 --> 00:24:04,508
Does he stick around?
What happened?
523
00:24:04,510 --> 00:24:08,646
Mosher's daughter, Blanche,
and her cousin, Wilma,
524
00:24:08,648 --> 00:24:09,947
returned later
in the evening
525
00:24:09,949 --> 00:24:13,451
with Austin still hiding
inside the house.
526
00:24:13,453 --> 00:24:16,454
This is a photograph
of Blanche.
527
00:24:18,891 --> 00:24:22,660
This is a photograph
of cousin Wilma.
528
00:24:28,167 --> 00:24:33,404
Austin came into the bedroom.
He struck the cousin, Wilma.
529
00:24:33,406 --> 00:24:35,940
She was dazed
but managed to run off,
530
00:24:35,942 --> 00:24:39,443
and Austin turned
to Blanche
531
00:24:39,445 --> 00:24:42,213
and bludgeoned her to death
in her bed.
532
00:24:42,215 --> 00:24:44,782
All right.
So Wilma's dazed,
533
00:24:44,784 --> 00:24:46,984
and Blanche is DOA
at this point.
534
00:24:46,986 --> 00:24:48,552
What happens next?
535
00:24:48,554 --> 00:24:52,490
Wilma was a very intelligent
19-year-old girl.
536
00:24:52,492 --> 00:24:55,593
And despite being dazed,
she convinced Austin
537
00:24:55,595 --> 00:24:58,562
that she really didn't
like her relatives,
538
00:24:58,564 --> 00:25:02,233
and she convinced him
that they should elope together.
539
00:25:02,235 --> 00:25:06,270
She and Austin left and went
to a nearby train station.
540
00:25:06,272 --> 00:25:08,305
When they arrived there,
541
00:25:08,307 --> 00:25:11,208
she alerted the conductor,
and Austin fled.
542
00:25:11,210 --> 00:25:12,877
So, she played him good.
543
00:25:12,879 --> 00:25:14,745
She played him good.
Okay, Sheriff.
544
00:25:14,747 --> 00:25:17,748
So now he takes off.
Does he ever get apprehended?
545
00:25:17,750 --> 00:25:21,051
Austin, actually,
is apprehended about 10 miles
546
00:25:21,053 --> 00:25:22,553
from the train station.
547
00:25:22,555 --> 00:25:24,655
Austin gave
a full confession.
548
00:25:24,657 --> 00:25:28,192
He was convicted
of first-degree murder.
549
00:25:32,198 --> 00:25:33,531
So, does he die
in prison?
550
00:25:33,533 --> 00:25:36,333
No, Austin spent the next
31 years
551
00:25:36,335 --> 00:25:38,068
in a state mental hospital
552
00:25:38,070 --> 00:25:42,606
until he died on
November 14, 1949.
553
00:25:49,448 --> 00:25:52,750
There's another guy here.
554
00:25:52,752 --> 00:25:55,986
He's, like, wigging out.
555
00:25:55,988 --> 00:25:57,521
He's just, like,
sitting there crying
556
00:25:57,523 --> 00:26:00,524
and mumbling
that he didn't do it.
557
00:26:00,526 --> 00:26:01,825
He did not do it.
558
00:26:01,827 --> 00:26:02,993
What do you mean?
559
00:26:02,995 --> 00:26:06,030
I think
he killed somebody.
560
00:26:06,032 --> 00:26:08,532
This was a long time ago.
561
00:26:08,534 --> 00:26:10,267
So I don't know
if he, like,
562
00:26:10,269 --> 00:26:12,503
snuck out here
or something.
563
00:26:12,505 --> 00:26:15,339
He says he didn't kill her.
564
00:26:15,341 --> 00:26:16,473
He says it was an accident.
565
00:26:16,475 --> 00:26:19,209
He absolutely did not kill her,
566
00:26:19,211 --> 00:26:21,011
and so he was saying
he didn't do it,
567
00:26:21,013 --> 00:26:24,415
and then I look down,
and she's, obviously, dead.
568
00:26:32,825 --> 00:26:35,459
During my walk, I encountered
several dead people,
569
00:26:35,461 --> 00:26:37,861
but two concerned me
the most.
570
00:26:37,863 --> 00:26:40,097
First, the crying man
who kept saying
571
00:26:40,099 --> 00:26:41,532
he didn't kill a woman.
572
00:26:41,534 --> 00:26:47,137
He was about
late 20s, early 30s,
573
00:26:47,139 --> 00:26:49,173
no facial hair.
574
00:26:49,175 --> 00:26:52,676
He had kind of
larger eyes.
575
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,513
Next, I described the widow
576
00:26:56,515 --> 00:26:58,782
attacking the living
in the house.
577
00:26:58,784 --> 00:27:00,951
She likes to strangle people.
578
00:27:00,953 --> 00:27:03,220
So she likes
to, literally, like,
579
00:27:03,222 --> 00:27:07,591
get her hands
around their neck.
580
00:27:07,593 --> 00:27:11,161
And she has, like,
these dark eyes.
581
00:27:11,163 --> 00:27:14,732
It goes all to black,
like gaping holes.
582
00:27:23,275 --> 00:27:25,142
Amy,
is this what you saw?
583
00:27:26,979 --> 00:27:28,746
Yes, that's what I saw.
584
00:27:48,334 --> 00:27:51,301
Now that Amy and I have
completed our investigations,
585
00:27:51,303 --> 00:27:53,637
we're ready to reveal
our findings to each other
586
00:27:53,639 --> 00:27:56,507
and our clients
for the first time.
587
00:27:56,509 --> 00:27:59,376
So, Amy, I'd like you to meet
Lisa and her husband, Brad.
588
00:27:59,378 --> 00:28:02,279
They're both army veterans
and used to combat conditions,
589
00:28:02,281 --> 00:28:03,914
but nothing could have
prepared them
590
00:28:03,916 --> 00:28:05,616
for what they're
dealing with now.
591
00:28:05,618 --> 00:28:07,484
Activity in the house
is out of control,
592
00:28:07,486 --> 00:28:09,853
and they're afraid
it's going after their kids.
593
00:28:09,855 --> 00:28:12,456
This is the whole tribe
right here.
594
00:28:12,458 --> 00:28:14,324
Lisa called us in because
she doesn't think it's safe
595
00:28:14,326 --> 00:28:15,359
for the kids here.
596
00:28:15,361 --> 00:28:16,894
If we can't
help them out,
597
00:28:16,896 --> 00:28:19,797
she thinks somebody's
going to get killed.
598
00:28:19,799 --> 00:28:21,765
So now that Amy knows
a little bit about you guys,
599
00:28:21,767 --> 00:28:23,767
I'm going to ask her
to describe her walk.
600
00:28:28,207 --> 00:28:30,140
When I first got here,
601
00:28:30,142 --> 00:28:32,276
I was getting
a lot of information.
602
00:28:32,278 --> 00:28:33,510
Out in the backyard,
603
00:28:33,512 --> 00:28:36,747
I saw a male,
604
00:28:36,749 --> 00:28:40,317
and he was really hyper
605
00:28:40,319 --> 00:28:42,252
and freaking out.
606
00:28:42,254 --> 00:28:45,289
I felt like he was not
directly attached
607
00:28:45,291 --> 00:28:46,390
to this property
608
00:28:46,392 --> 00:28:48,425
but that he had been here
at some point.
609
00:28:48,427 --> 00:28:51,195
He was kind of
out of his mind.
610
00:28:51,197 --> 00:28:53,097
He kept mumbling over
and over and over again
611
00:28:53,099 --> 00:28:54,732
that he didn't do it,
he didn't do it.
612
00:28:54,734 --> 00:28:58,669
And then I saw a woman
laying at his feet.
613
00:28:58,671 --> 00:29:00,304
She was dead.
614
00:29:00,306 --> 00:29:03,207
I felt like he did
kill this woman.
615
00:29:03,209 --> 00:29:05,476
Now, the guy you saw,
how old do you think he was?
616
00:29:05,478 --> 00:29:08,479
I would have thought
he was in his 20s.
617
00:29:08,481 --> 00:29:10,614
Some of the things
you're saying reminded me
618
00:29:10,616 --> 00:29:13,283
of a case I came across
in my research.
619
00:29:13,285 --> 00:29:14,651
Back in the early 1900s,
620
00:29:14,653 --> 00:29:16,320
there was a guy
named McClellan Mosher,
621
00:29:16,322 --> 00:29:18,255
had a farm right next door
to this property.
622
00:29:18,257 --> 00:29:19,990
Mosher lived there
with his wife
623
00:29:19,992 --> 00:29:22,659
and his 15-year-old daughter,
Blanche.
624
00:29:22,661 --> 00:29:25,562
Now, at the time, Mosher
employed a 32-year-old farmhand
625
00:29:25,564 --> 00:29:27,564
by the name
of Earl Austin.
626
00:29:27,566 --> 00:29:30,667
April of 1918,
Mosher and Austin had a fight
627
00:29:30,669 --> 00:29:32,169
while working on the farm.
628
00:29:32,171 --> 00:29:34,104
Austin backed down
and left.
629
00:29:34,106 --> 00:29:36,540
He wind up coming
back later that night.
630
00:29:36,542 --> 00:29:39,176
Now, you said the guy
you saw snuck out here?
631
00:29:39,178 --> 00:29:41,478
Well, Austin snuck
into Mosher's house
632
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:42,646
while he was sleeping.
633
00:29:42,648 --> 00:29:45,349
He took an axe, and he
bludgeoned him to death.
634
00:29:45,351 --> 00:29:46,750
But that
wasn't the end of it.
635
00:29:46,752 --> 00:29:47,918
Austin waited in the house
636
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:49,987
for the 15-year-old daughter,
Blanche,
637
00:29:49,989 --> 00:29:52,756
and her cousin, Wilma,
to come home.
638
00:29:52,758 --> 00:29:55,392
I actually got a photo
of both girls.
639
00:29:55,394 --> 00:29:58,028
So this is the daughter,
Blanche,
640
00:29:58,030 --> 00:30:00,097
and then this
is her cousin, Wilma.
641
00:30:00,099 --> 00:30:01,865
Once the girls were
in bed,
642
00:30:01,867 --> 00:30:04,268
this sick bastard snuck
into their rooms.
643
00:30:04,270 --> 00:30:06,003
He took the axe
and killed Blanche.
644
00:30:06,005 --> 00:30:08,305
He went to kill Wilma next,
but she lied to him
645
00:30:08,307 --> 00:30:10,874
and somehow convinced him
to elope
646
00:30:10,876 --> 00:30:12,910
and go to a train station
that night.
647
00:30:12,912 --> 00:30:14,178
Now, at the train station,
648
00:30:14,180 --> 00:30:16,246
Wilma rats out Earl
to a conductor,
649
00:30:16,248 --> 00:30:17,548
and he took off.
650
00:30:17,550 --> 00:30:19,950
Cops caught up to him
about a couple hours later.
651
00:30:19,952 --> 00:30:22,319
Austin never claimed he killed
these two people by accident,
652
00:30:22,321 --> 00:30:24,021
but he did plead insanity.
653
00:30:24,023 --> 00:30:26,390
So Austin got transferred
to a mental hospital
654
00:30:26,392 --> 00:30:29,393
and stayed there
until he died in 1949.
655
00:30:29,395 --> 00:30:31,361
I met with the local sheriff,
and he told me this was
656
00:30:31,363 --> 00:30:33,697
the most brutal homicide
in this county's history.
657
00:30:33,699 --> 00:30:34,832
As a matter of fact,
he actually gave me
658
00:30:34,834 --> 00:30:36,500
a photo
of the perpetrator.
659
00:30:36,502 --> 00:30:38,335
This is Earl Austin here.
660
00:30:41,340 --> 00:30:42,973
Did you get
a good look at him?
661
00:30:42,975 --> 00:30:44,908
- Yeah.
- Is this our guy?
662
00:30:44,910 --> 00:30:46,610
I had a sketch done.
663
00:30:51,917 --> 00:30:54,685
It's a pretty damn
close description of this guy.
664
00:30:57,690 --> 00:31:00,190
Wow.
665
00:31:03,128 --> 00:31:05,696
Lips and the chin.
666
00:31:05,698 --> 00:31:08,432
So, Amy, you think
this is possible who you saw?
667
00:31:10,636 --> 00:31:11,735
Yes.
668
00:31:15,241 --> 00:31:17,140
Okay, so what else
did you see?
669
00:31:17,142 --> 00:31:20,844
Upstairs, I met a couple.
670
00:31:20,846 --> 00:31:22,679
From how they were
both dressed,
671
00:31:22,681 --> 00:31:24,948
I would place them
in the '20s or '30s.
672
00:31:24,950 --> 00:31:27,985
There was something Bonnie
and Clyde-ish about them.
673
00:31:27,987 --> 00:31:31,688
They were extremely rebellious
when they were alive,
674
00:31:31,690 --> 00:31:35,158
and they are
the same now in death.
675
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:38,896
I think that different ways
you would experience them
676
00:31:38,898 --> 00:31:42,399
would be that they are
constantly partying.
677
00:31:42,401 --> 00:31:43,967
So they make a lot of noise.
678
00:31:43,969 --> 00:31:47,137
You would hear them
talking, laughing.
679
00:31:47,139 --> 00:31:50,674
They're constantly
drinking and smoking.
680
00:31:50,676 --> 00:31:52,042
I think that you would,
actually,
681
00:31:52,044 --> 00:31:54,578
might smell some
of the smoke.
682
00:31:54,580 --> 00:31:57,848
There's the first bedroom
over the kitchen, I think.
683
00:31:57,850 --> 00:31:59,416
They love it in there.
684
00:31:59,418 --> 00:32:00,784
They kind of go nuts
in there,
685
00:32:00,786 --> 00:32:03,287
and so they're bumping
into walls and the doors.
686
00:32:03,289 --> 00:32:05,989
They're flopping
on the bed together.
687
00:32:05,991 --> 00:32:07,557
The living would experience
688
00:32:07,559 --> 00:32:10,761
that kind of activity
and energy
689
00:32:10,763 --> 00:32:12,596
as anxiety,
690
00:32:12,598 --> 00:32:13,830
and I, honestly,
don't know
691
00:32:13,832 --> 00:32:16,934
how anybody can
get any sleep up there.
692
00:32:16,936 --> 00:32:20,170
The couple can also
make people sick.
693
00:32:20,172 --> 00:32:23,373
The other thing I got,
and this bothered me,
694
00:32:23,375 --> 00:32:26,310
the male indicated
that he can become physical
695
00:32:26,312 --> 00:32:29,513
and that he may have
punched some people.
696
00:32:29,515 --> 00:32:31,181
You hit on a lot
of experiences
697
00:32:31,183 --> 00:32:33,150
our clients
are dealing with here.
698
00:32:33,152 --> 00:32:34,885
Let's take them one
at a time.
699
00:32:34,887 --> 00:32:37,854
Lisa, you've heard voices
and conversations.
700
00:32:37,856 --> 00:32:38,956
That damn laughing.
701
00:32:38,958 --> 00:32:40,624
Kids' friends don't stay
the night any more
702
00:32:40,626 --> 00:32:41,992
because they get kept up
all night
703
00:32:41,994 --> 00:32:43,260
from the damn laughing.
704
00:32:43,262 --> 00:32:44,594
You guys both
smell cigarettes,
705
00:32:44,596 --> 00:32:47,297
but no one in the house
smokes, right?
706
00:32:47,299 --> 00:32:48,765
Yeah,
Lisa and I both have.
707
00:32:48,767 --> 00:32:50,934
We brought it to
each other's attention.
708
00:32:50,936 --> 00:32:53,737
Something Amy talked about,
you and I discussed upstairs,
709
00:32:53,739 --> 00:32:55,138
the bed being shook.
710
00:32:55,140 --> 00:32:57,140
It's like somebody's bumping
into the bed.
711
00:32:57,142 --> 00:32:58,375
Mm-hmm.
712
00:32:58,377 --> 00:33:00,277
It's not just like,
you know, a little knock.
713
00:33:00,279 --> 00:33:02,179
It's really a jolt.
714
00:33:02,181 --> 00:33:04,381
Your daughter, Kortney,
and you have been grabbed
715
00:33:04,383 --> 00:33:06,249
by the foot or the ankle?
716
00:33:06,251 --> 00:33:09,286
Yeah, you can feel like somebody
puts their hands on you,
717
00:33:09,288 --> 00:33:10,554
and it's a good shake.
718
00:33:10,556 --> 00:33:12,956
Could you tell if
it was male or female?
719
00:33:12,958 --> 00:33:15,826
It's either a weak man
or strong woman.
720
00:33:15,828 --> 00:33:17,427
That's interesting.
721
00:33:17,429 --> 00:33:19,563
Amy, you also said
they can make people sick.
722
00:33:19,565 --> 00:33:22,566
Lisa, do me a favor and tell Amy
what you've been going through.
723
00:33:22,568 --> 00:33:24,234
Yeah.
My heart'll just race.
724
00:33:24,236 --> 00:33:25,802
My chest will get tight.
725
00:33:25,804 --> 00:33:27,471
I went through...
726
00:33:27,473 --> 00:33:31,174
I don't know,
months of passing out,
727
00:33:31,176 --> 00:33:34,878
and it's not uncommon
to wake up with migraines.
728
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,748
So this is being caused
by this gangster couple.
729
00:33:37,750 --> 00:33:39,916
I think the majority
of it is.
730
00:33:39,918 --> 00:33:43,153
The migraines might be
something else.
731
00:33:43,155 --> 00:33:44,988
Now, why are they
doing this?
732
00:33:44,990 --> 00:33:48,825
They have felt like the living
have tried to attack them,
733
00:33:48,827 --> 00:33:51,428
and I was trying
to talk to them about
734
00:33:51,430 --> 00:33:54,398
how the living
were doing this to them.
735
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:55,799
And they told me that
736
00:33:55,801 --> 00:33:58,001
they were banished
to the darkness.
737
00:33:58,003 --> 00:33:59,603
Lisa, tell her
about who you brought in
738
00:33:59,605 --> 00:34:00,804
and what they did.
739
00:34:00,806 --> 00:34:03,040
I had a coven pagan
high priestess
740
00:34:03,042 --> 00:34:05,909
come to do a circle ritual
for cleansing,
741
00:34:05,911 --> 00:34:08,745
and there was some good
stern get out.
742
00:34:08,747 --> 00:34:11,281
Can we assume
that when she did that,
743
00:34:11,283 --> 00:34:12,516
it made things worse?
744
00:34:12,518 --> 00:34:14,951
Yeah, when I spoke
to the dead couple,
745
00:34:14,953 --> 00:34:18,889
they said it's been
extremely emotionally,
746
00:34:18,891 --> 00:34:21,258
you know,
distressing for them.
747
00:34:21,260 --> 00:34:22,659
We've seen it before
where people say
748
00:34:22,661 --> 00:34:24,694
they've had teams come in.
749
00:34:24,696 --> 00:34:26,463
Next thing you know,
everything gets worse.
750
00:34:29,201 --> 00:34:30,967
You have several dead
people here,
751
00:34:30,969 --> 00:34:33,470
but one woman
really stands out.
752
00:34:33,472 --> 00:34:34,471
This is the person that
753
00:34:34,473 --> 00:34:36,740
I'm the most concerned
about here.
754
00:34:36,742 --> 00:34:40,210
I got that she would have
been here in the 1800s.
755
00:34:40,212 --> 00:34:42,245
I felt that
she lived here,
756
00:34:42,247 --> 00:34:44,714
either in this house,
or on this property.
757
00:34:44,716 --> 00:34:46,750
I thought that
she might have been rich
758
00:34:46,752 --> 00:34:48,785
or came from
a wealthy family.
759
00:34:48,787 --> 00:34:50,120
I believe she was a widow
760
00:34:50,122 --> 00:34:51,855
and that she suffered
a lot of loss
761
00:34:51,857 --> 00:34:55,258
because the initial thing
she showed me were four graves,
762
00:34:55,260 --> 00:34:58,295
and she kept saying that
she buried four.
763
00:34:58,297 --> 00:35:01,465
Initially, I felt bad
because she told me,
764
00:35:01,467 --> 00:35:07,504
"I am damned to walk
their graves for eternity."
765
00:35:07,506 --> 00:35:09,840
And then I got the impression
766
00:35:09,842 --> 00:35:13,243
that she possibly made
her family sick.
767
00:35:13,245 --> 00:35:15,745
I think she might have
poisoned them.
768
00:35:15,747 --> 00:35:17,247
What you're saying
made me think
769
00:35:17,249 --> 00:35:18,915
of someone
who actually lived her.
770
00:35:18,917 --> 00:35:21,518
Back in 1889,
a woman named Mary Bement
771
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:22,752
moved onto this property
772
00:35:22,754 --> 00:35:25,088
after she married
her husband, George.
773
00:35:25,090 --> 00:35:28,325
George and Mary built this house
in the early 1890s.
774
00:35:28,327 --> 00:35:30,894
Nobody knows why,
but George, her husband,
775
00:35:30,896 --> 00:35:32,863
committed suicide in 1899
776
00:35:32,865 --> 00:35:34,965
by walking in front
of a freight train
777
00:35:34,967 --> 00:35:36,600
right down the block
from here.
778
00:35:36,602 --> 00:35:38,435
You said you thought
she was wealthy.
779
00:35:38,437 --> 00:35:40,604
Mary, George's widow,
inherited the property
780
00:35:40,606 --> 00:35:42,339
as well as George's assets.
781
00:35:42,341 --> 00:35:44,541
Mary immediately moved
her family in --
782
00:35:44,543 --> 00:35:47,577
her mother and father
and her brother and her uncle.
783
00:35:47,579 --> 00:35:49,479
Well, as soon as these people
moved in with Mary,
784
00:35:49,481 --> 00:35:51,248
they started dropping dead.
785
00:35:51,250 --> 00:35:52,649
No [bleep] way.
786
00:35:52,651 --> 00:35:54,684
You saw four graves.
787
00:35:54,686 --> 00:35:57,654
All four of her family members
died in this house.
788
00:35:57,656 --> 00:36:01,258
I got a stack of obits
and death certificates here.
789
00:36:01,260 --> 00:36:03,260
Now, none of the death records
report any poisoning,
790
00:36:03,262 --> 00:36:05,595
but back in those days,
unless you had an indication
791
00:36:05,597 --> 00:36:07,564
for it,
why would you check for it?
792
00:36:07,566 --> 00:36:10,901
Mary stayed at the house by
herself here for 14 more years.
793
00:36:10,903 --> 00:36:13,670
She also died
in the house in 1923.
794
00:36:13,672 --> 00:36:17,073
After Mary passed away,
the house went to her brother.
795
00:36:17,075 --> 00:36:19,576
Now, her brother and his family
moved into the house.
796
00:36:19,578 --> 00:36:23,313
Shortly after that, four more
of them died in the house.
797
00:36:23,315 --> 00:36:24,581
I got their death certificates
right here.
798
00:36:24,583 --> 00:36:26,917
Oh, she did.
799
00:36:26,919 --> 00:36:29,119
Now, you got a total
of nine deaths in the house
800
00:36:29,121 --> 00:36:31,888
and her husband,
who killed himself, which is 10.
801
00:36:31,890 --> 00:36:34,024
Is it possible Mary is
the widow you saw?
802
00:36:34,026 --> 00:36:36,426
Yeah.
803
00:36:36,428 --> 00:36:38,395
Okay, so you're convinced
that she killed
804
00:36:38,397 --> 00:36:39,930
everybody in this house
when she was alive.
805
00:36:39,932 --> 00:36:40,897
Yes.
All right.
806
00:36:40,899 --> 00:36:41,665
Now, what about
the other people?
807
00:36:41,667 --> 00:36:44,401
She's killed everybody.
808
00:36:44,403 --> 00:36:46,903
So she killed those other four
while she was dead.
809
00:36:46,905 --> 00:36:49,239
Yes.
810
00:36:49,241 --> 00:36:52,642
She's a serial killer.
811
00:36:52,644 --> 00:36:54,444
She's extremely advanced
and dangerous,
812
00:36:54,446 --> 00:36:56,112
and there's many,
813
00:36:56,114 --> 00:36:58,782
many different ways
you would experience her.
814
00:36:58,784 --> 00:37:00,217
I think they would
feel a presence.
815
00:37:00,219 --> 00:37:03,186
I think they would feel
something hovering over them.
816
00:37:03,188 --> 00:37:04,454
And when she does this,
817
00:37:04,456 --> 00:37:06,923
the living might feel
like they're choking.
818
00:37:06,925 --> 00:37:11,027
You tell the story about the
thing hovering above your bed.
819
00:37:11,029 --> 00:37:12,529
We were getting ready
to go to bed.
820
00:37:12,531 --> 00:37:15,732
I saw a shadow figure of some
sort in our doorway,
821
00:37:15,734 --> 00:37:18,501
and, next thing we know,
it is hovering,
822
00:37:18,503 --> 00:37:20,804
floating
over the top of us.
823
00:37:20,806 --> 00:37:22,439
We were frozen.
We couldn't speak.
824
00:37:22,441 --> 00:37:24,107
It felt like
we couldn't breathe.
825
00:37:24,109 --> 00:37:25,308
Wow.
826
00:37:25,310 --> 00:37:27,978
The room in the front
with the two beds
827
00:37:27,980 --> 00:37:30,747
is her main, like, area.
828
00:37:30,749 --> 00:37:32,882
So that's where
Jayden and Mason sleep, right?
829
00:37:32,884 --> 00:37:34,017
Yeah.
830
00:37:34,019 --> 00:37:35,986
She was saying
that she hates children,
831
00:37:35,988 --> 00:37:38,688
especially if
they're under the age of 18.
832
00:37:40,659 --> 00:37:42,659
So she'll actually sit
on the side of the bed,
833
00:37:42,661 --> 00:37:44,261
and she's actually
taking her finger
834
00:37:44,263 --> 00:37:46,963
and pushing various parts
of the brain.
835
00:37:46,965 --> 00:37:50,400
She can cause headaches,
memory lapses,
836
00:37:50,402 --> 00:37:54,204
extreme personality swings
and seizures.
837
00:37:54,206 --> 00:37:56,673
Amy, Lisa moved in here
with her ex,
838
00:37:56,675 --> 00:37:57,941
and his personality
changed a lot
839
00:37:57,943 --> 00:37:59,209
while he was here
as well, right?
840
00:37:59,211 --> 00:38:00,410
Yeah.
841
00:38:00,412 --> 00:38:02,512
Could that be the influence
of this woman?
842
00:38:02,514 --> 00:38:05,115
It could
absolutely be her.
843
00:38:05,117 --> 00:38:08,285
I had a sketch done
of an example
844
00:38:08,287 --> 00:38:10,820
of what she is doing.
845
00:38:17,329 --> 00:38:18,495
Are you kidding me?
846
00:38:18,497 --> 00:38:21,331
I don't even know
what to say about that.
847
00:38:26,171 --> 00:38:28,972
I'm thinking, "This thing is
this close to my kid."
848
00:38:32,177 --> 00:38:33,376
What's happening
in my own home,
849
00:38:33,378 --> 00:38:35,912
and I can't put any type
of stop to it.
850
00:38:35,914 --> 00:38:38,248
It's very disturbing.
851
00:38:38,250 --> 00:38:40,750
How much danger do you think
the kids are in?
852
00:38:40,752 --> 00:38:43,720
This is really bad...
853
00:38:45,490 --> 00:38:46,956
...for everyone.
854
00:38:46,958 --> 00:38:48,658
If this goes unchecked,
what happens?
855
00:38:48,660 --> 00:38:53,029
Left unchecked,
she would kill everybody.
856
00:38:53,965 --> 00:38:57,367
Everybody here is
in danger.
857
00:38:57,369 --> 00:39:00,537
Everyone is in jeopardy.
858
00:39:15,954 --> 00:39:18,054
Well, Lisa and Brad,
it's probably a good thing
859
00:39:18,056 --> 00:39:19,789
you called us in when you did.
860
00:39:19,791 --> 00:39:21,858
Now, we know who's been
attacking you people
861
00:39:21,860 --> 00:39:23,927
and scaring the hell
out of your kids.
862
00:39:23,929 --> 00:39:27,163
But the big question is,
is it safe for you to safe here,
863
00:39:27,165 --> 00:39:29,065
or should you just
pack up your bags
864
00:39:29,067 --> 00:39:30,867
and get the hell out?
865
00:39:30,869 --> 00:39:32,669
For that answer, I'm going
to turn it over to Amy.
866
00:39:35,674 --> 00:39:38,074
So, I want to
be clear here.
867
00:39:38,076 --> 00:39:43,913
You do need to vacate the house
as soon as possible.
868
00:39:43,915 --> 00:39:47,016
And upon doing that,
you need to have,
869
00:39:47,018 --> 00:39:49,819
waiting for you,
a healer.
870
00:39:49,821 --> 00:39:54,157
What they will do is remove
all the attachments
871
00:39:54,159 --> 00:39:58,128
that she has formed
to all of you guys.
872
00:39:58,130 --> 00:40:02,766
So you need to have those
severed as quickly as possible.
873
00:40:02,768 --> 00:40:04,834
The only way to remove her
874
00:40:04,836 --> 00:40:09,906
is going to be
via a priest,
875
00:40:09,908 --> 00:40:11,608
exorcism.
876
00:40:12,744 --> 00:40:15,845
Once you have
all of the stuff done,
877
00:40:15,847 --> 00:40:19,983
you do have to help
the dead that are trapped here.
878
00:40:19,985 --> 00:40:22,852
So you do need to have
a medium come in
879
00:40:22,854 --> 00:40:26,723
so that they can leave
and be free and clear.
880
00:40:26,725 --> 00:40:28,458
And then,
if they did all that,
881
00:40:28,460 --> 00:40:30,660
could they come back
to the house?
882
00:40:30,662 --> 00:40:33,029
Yeah.
883
00:40:33,031 --> 00:40:36,766
But I say, you know,
burn the [bleep] down.
884
00:40:39,738 --> 00:40:42,705
Don't let anybody else
ever [bleep] live here
885
00:40:42,707 --> 00:40:45,909
or have this property
because it's bad.
886
00:40:45,911 --> 00:40:46,910
Yeah.
887
00:40:46,912 --> 00:40:48,745
Normally,
I would say to people,
888
00:40:48,747 --> 00:40:50,580
you know, are you going
to take Amy's advice?
889
00:40:50,582 --> 00:40:52,949
Are you going to
take Amy's advice?
890
00:40:52,951 --> 00:40:55,885
It's almost like
you got no choice here.
891
00:40:55,887 --> 00:40:58,221
I don't think
staying's an option.
892
00:41:00,325 --> 00:41:03,126
I wouldn't put the kids
at risk for anything.
893
00:41:03,128 --> 00:41:05,028
I don't care
how attached I am.
894
00:41:05,030 --> 00:41:07,397
How about you, Brad?
How do you feel about that?
895
00:41:07,399 --> 00:41:09,666
I'm for moving.
896
00:41:09,668 --> 00:41:11,968
This is my family
you're talking about.
897
00:41:11,970 --> 00:41:13,703
Got to do
what we got to do.
898
00:41:13,705 --> 00:41:15,271
Yeah.
899
00:41:15,273 --> 00:41:17,373
Memories will be there.
900
00:41:17,375 --> 00:41:19,375
You can take those
with you.
901
00:41:19,377 --> 00:41:22,312
But if something happens,
that's just something that
902
00:41:22,314 --> 00:41:25,281
I don't want riding on us.
903
00:41:25,283 --> 00:41:28,585
Can actually clean up the mess
and get it taken care of.
904
00:41:28,587 --> 00:41:31,421
We'll stand
and battle together.
905
00:41:31,423 --> 00:41:34,390
I wish I had
better news for Lisa and Brad,
906
00:41:34,392 --> 00:41:36,860
but the widow
has become so powerful
907
00:41:36,862 --> 00:41:39,762
that the only way to ensure
their family remains safe
908
00:41:39,764 --> 00:41:41,998
is to leave
and then have everyone
909
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,100
in the family exercised.
910
00:41:44,150 --> 00:41:48,700
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