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I'm hearing murder.
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They appreciate when
horrible things happen.
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I know there's something very
evil in this house.
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I don't know
if they're tricksters
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or some kind of demon.
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I feel like
I'm losing my mind.
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I'm feeling panic and fear.
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I hate this place --
hate it.
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This seems like a possession.
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My name is Amy Allan.
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Everything was built on blood.
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I see dead people.
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Very disturbing.
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I speak to dead people.
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There's victims around him.
Ow.
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And they speak to me.
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Her voice sounds like death.
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But there's only one way
to know if my findings are real.
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The living don't
stand a chance here.
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I rely on my partner.
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I'm Steve Di Schiavi.
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I'm a retired New York City
homicide detective.
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You could have
got killed.
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And I know every person,
every house has secrets.
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This is coming
straight from Hell.
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It's my job to reveal them.
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Your mom was murdered
right here in this room?
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Yes, she was.
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But Steve and I never speak...
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We never communicate
during an investigation.
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...until the very end...
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This was
just the beginning.
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...when we uncover
if it's safe for you to stay...
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Oh, my God.
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...or time to get out.
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They're very bad.
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This house
is going to kill me.
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I'm in the small town
of Applegate, California,
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about an hour
north of Sacramento.
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I got a call
from a desperate woman
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who just beat lung cancer
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but doesn't think she can
survive her own home.
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She says, unless Amy
and I can help her out,
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she doesn't think
she's gonna make it.
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Before Amy arrives, I clear the
area of any leading information.
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Personal items,
family photographs,
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and even dream catchers
have to be covered or removed.
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When I'm finished, the location
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will be ready
for tonight's walk.
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Oh, boy.
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I see this, like, super tall guy
with, like, red eyes,
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and he's standing
in the shadows.
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All of a sudden,
two little, like,
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gargoyles with red eyes
run out from him.
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They're pretty close
to the ground.
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They're about this tall
but with super long arms.
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They have, like,
no hair on them,
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and I'm gonna say there's
a lot of issues with this land.
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It's not good.
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You know, Heidi,
one of the reasons
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that I took this case
is you told me,
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after beating cancer,
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you feel like
you're fighting for your life
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all over again.
Is it really that bad?
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It's really bad.
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I'm scared.
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That's insane.
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It is insane.
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So, how long you been
living in the house?
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It's my sister's house.
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I've been living here
for about 31/2 years,
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and then I lived here
before in the late '90s.
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Did you have
activity then?
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Yes, it was horrendous.
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Why'd you come back?
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With cancer, it financially
tore me apart.
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So, you beat the most
treacherous thing
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anybody can go through --
is cancer.
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Yeah. And my daughter had
an emotional breakdown.
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They won't stop,
and I am very angry.
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That's why we needed
you here to help us.
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It seems it's a lot worse
than I thought originally.
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Well, who actually lives
in the house now?
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That's me, of course.
Right.
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That's my sister, Petra,
who owns the house.
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That's my daughter,
Sasha, who's 22.
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Okay.
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And that is Ciara,
who's 15. Okay.
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All of us are lashing out
at one another.
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The negativity, you feel it when
you walk in this house.
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It feels like something
you can cut with a knife.
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So, Heidi, give me a rundown
of what's going on in the house.
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Noises, the apparitions,
they rush you.
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They charge you, and
being pushed, shoved, pinching.
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Is anybody getting
more harassment, I should say,
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from the paranormal here
than anybody else?
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Me and Sasha.
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She feels like she can't
leave the house.
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She can't function.
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She's scared to death.
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I am mama bear
to my girls,
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and I protected them
all their lives so far,
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and I will
continue to do so.
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I'm just trying to keep it
together for my children
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because they need me,
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and I can't give up,
and I won't give up.
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I'm glad
I took this case.
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It's heartbreaking
to hear you talk.
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I want it to stop now.
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I want them out of here.
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So, what do you think
is here?
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I'm not sure, but I know
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there's something very evil
in this house.
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Okay.
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I don't know why, but my
grandfather is very freaked out.
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My grandfather is
one of my guides,
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and he tags along usually
when it might be a little funky.
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Ooh, it must be not good here,
at least for sensitives.
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I'm assuming that there would be
some kind of physical threat
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that he's extremely
worried about.
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Okay, so,
what's going on out here?
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You know, sometimes,
I come out here in the morning
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when I have to go to work,
and there's growling.
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Not for nothing, but we're in
the middle of the woods.
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What kind of growling
are we talking about?
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Growling that I've never
heard before.
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It's not distinctive.
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It doesn't sound like
a coyote, a wolf.
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Now, is there any way
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you could describe
what that sounds like?
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A sound
that goes into a growl
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and then almost sounds
like a human at the end,
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something in agony.
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Now, have you
ever had the house
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checked for rodents
or anything like that?
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No.
Okay, anything else?
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I keep getting
rushed by shadows.
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What do you mean
by rushed?
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They run at you,
and they run through you.
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And how does that feel
when it goes through you?
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You get nauseated,
feel like you want to vomit.
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It feels like a cold force
just went through you.
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Okay, what else
is going on?
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I had an occasion where I was
getting ready for work.
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I went out the door,
went down the steps,
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immediately got shoved,
and my knees were cut up,
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and I was bleeding,
and I was crying.
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Can you feel actual hands
on you or --
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Yes.
Okay, demonstrate on me how hard you got shoved.
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Okay, so,
you got a nice jolt.
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Oh, yeah.
It just felt like boom.
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So, this is...
pretty serious.
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Pretty serious --
very.
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Because even a short fall
can cause major damage
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or even kill you,
and I've seen it.
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They try to hurt me.
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The little
gargoyle-y things,
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one of the things
they like to do
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is, like,
tripping people,
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also scaring people,
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like, jumping out
of dark spaces.
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And I think
they're outside.
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I think they're inside.
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And it's almost like they're
jumping out of closets,
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and people
are freaking out.
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Those little gargoyle thingies,
I feel like they come
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and go in this room
in particular.
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I don't know why.
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How do these things interact
with the living?
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They can, like,
trip people.
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They rush them.
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I don't like
this room at all.
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So, Heidi, this is
like a dorm room.
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I've never seen
a setup like this.
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I mean, there's three beds
in here. What gives?
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This is the way we choose to
live to keep my children safe.
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It keeps them feeling
better that Mom's right here.
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All right, so,
what's going on in here?
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I actually get scratched,
and I'm in bed,
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and you'll feel
someone just scratch me.
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Cats?
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No. The scratching,
it feels like human hands,
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like, just marks
going down.
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It sure sounds
like something
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doesn't want you
to get some sleep.
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Exactly. "Let's keep
bothering her.
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Let's keep
harassing her."
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Okay, anything else?
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I see black spirits
all along the walls here
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where they
just stare at you.
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So, like
a shadow person?
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Just like
a shadow person, yes.
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They just stand and look at us,
no expression.
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That's no way to live.
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No, it's not.
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We would like to see
this house be a home again.
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Why are they here?
What do they want?
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Why are
they hurting us?
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It's the house.
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It's what's
in the house.
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So, the little gargoyles,
they're, like,
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coming and going in here,
coming and going,
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coming and going.
They like it.
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Do you know why they're
attracted to this room?
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They're attracted to negative
energy, bad energy.
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They like it.
They love it.
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Terrible!
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I'm gonna say
that there was a murder,
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and I'm gonna say
that I think
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that these things would like it
if another one happened.
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I'm hearing murder.
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I'm just hearing murder.
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All right, Ciara,
how old are you?
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15.
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Now, your mother mentioned about
being at each other's throats.
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Yeah.
What's going on?
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We have been, like,
so mean towards each other
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that we would normally
not act towards each other.
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Everything's
heightened.
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Everything is so just, like,
evil, I feel like.
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You think it's because
of the stress,
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or you think
it's whatever's here's
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influencing you guys?
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Whatever here
is influencing us.
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As far as experiences go,
have you had any?
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Several.
Okay.
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A couple weeks ago,
I woke up,
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and there was a bruise
on my arm.
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I had no idea where it came
from, and it hurt really bad.
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Now, this is a pretty
precise location on your arm.
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Did you bang it on anything
maybe while you were sleeping?
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Not that I remember.
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Okay, anything else?
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When we first moved in,
every night,
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a shadow with red eyes
would be staring at me
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as I fell asleep.
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Now, did you see this outside,
or was it in the room?
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It was
outside the window.
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Did it have a shape?
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It was just a mist
with just red eyes
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just staring at me.
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I was just so scared
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it would come attack me
or something.
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How would you feel
about leaving?
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Personally,
I would like to leave.
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This house has
traumatized me.
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That tall guy with the red guys
who the gargoyles run out of,
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I think people see him.
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Can you describe
what they see?
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I think, to them,
it looks more like a ball,
251
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like a black ball.
252
00:11:48,775 --> 00:11:50,975
I feel like they see
the red eyes.
253
00:11:50,977 --> 00:11:54,379
One of them scales the tree.
254
00:11:54,381 --> 00:11:56,715
He's watching.
He's interested.
255
00:12:02,422 --> 00:12:04,389
Now, Sasha,
how old are you?
256
00:12:04,391 --> 00:12:06,658
I'm 22.
You're 22.
257
00:12:06,660 --> 00:12:07,959
But you're living in a room
with your mom
258
00:12:07,961 --> 00:12:10,428
and your younger sister.
Yeah.
259
00:12:10,430 --> 00:12:11,362
Not cool, right?
260
00:12:11,364 --> 00:12:13,565
No, it's not.
261
00:12:13,567 --> 00:12:15,600
Mom mentioned you're having
some issues emotionally --
262
00:12:15,602 --> 00:12:18,536
depression,
stuff like that. Yeah.
263
00:12:18,538 --> 00:12:20,538
Do you think it's because
of what's going on in the house?
264
00:12:20,540 --> 00:12:23,074
I feel like the house
is making it worse.
265
00:12:23,076 --> 00:12:26,478
Everyone's been
more...tense
266
00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:30,081
and at each other's
throats lately.
267
00:12:30,083 --> 00:12:32,383
Can you tell me about
some experiences you had?
268
00:12:32,385 --> 00:12:36,588
I was downstairs
taking a shower,
269
00:12:36,590 --> 00:12:39,924
and I hear
this voice in my head
270
00:12:39,926 --> 00:12:42,293
in some language
I've never heard before,
271
00:12:42,295 --> 00:12:45,063
and it's just chanting.
272
00:12:45,065 --> 00:12:48,333
The next thing I remember
was waking up in my mom's arms
273
00:12:48,335 --> 00:12:49,801
outside of the shower.
274
00:12:49,803 --> 00:12:53,004
She said that I had
started speaking
275
00:12:53,006 --> 00:12:55,940
in a very strange language
that she had never heard,
276
00:12:55,942 --> 00:12:57,575
which I had assumed
was the language
277
00:12:57,577 --> 00:13:00,178
that I was hearing
in my head. Okay.
278
00:13:00,180 --> 00:13:03,214
And she said that I charged
out of the bathtub
279
00:13:03,216 --> 00:13:05,250
and tried to choke her.
280
00:13:07,420 --> 00:13:09,788
What do you think
happened?
281
00:13:09,790 --> 00:13:11,122
I don't know.
282
00:13:11,124 --> 00:13:13,057
How do you explain
something like that?
283
00:13:13,059 --> 00:13:15,593
Okay, anything else?
284
00:13:15,595 --> 00:13:17,228
Well, this was my bed,
285
00:13:17,230 --> 00:13:19,464
so I'd wake up
in the middle of the night,
286
00:13:19,466 --> 00:13:22,867
and I'd just see the shadow man
standing over me.
287
00:13:22,869 --> 00:13:24,536
How often
has this happened?
288
00:13:24,538 --> 00:13:27,105
At very least,
once a week,
289
00:13:27,107 --> 00:13:29,674
but I always feel
his presence there.
290
00:13:29,676 --> 00:13:35,213
I feel like
he wants to hurt me.
291
00:13:35,215 --> 00:13:38,550
I feel like
I'm in danger.
292
00:13:38,552 --> 00:13:39,951
Okay, anything else?
293
00:13:39,953 --> 00:13:45,356
At night, my bed gets shoved
so hard that it wakes me up.
294
00:13:45,358 --> 00:13:48,993
Okay, can you show me
how hard that shake is?
295
00:13:48,995 --> 00:13:50,228
Yeah.
296
00:13:53,633 --> 00:13:55,233
Okay, so,
if you're sleeping,
297
00:13:55,235 --> 00:13:57,168
you're getting up
from that. Yeah.
298
00:13:57,170 --> 00:13:59,437
All right.
299
00:13:59,439 --> 00:14:02,073
What would you like
to see happen, sweetie?
300
00:14:02,075 --> 00:14:05,243
If I had it my way, I'd be gone,
and I'd never look back.
301
00:14:05,245 --> 00:14:09,214
It's kind of hard
to remain in some place
302
00:14:09,216 --> 00:14:11,182
that's hurt you
so much.
303
00:14:17,657 --> 00:14:19,157
Ugh.
304
00:14:19,159 --> 00:14:21,159
I don't know what the [bleep]
is going on in here,
305
00:14:21,161 --> 00:14:23,328
but it is not good.
306
00:14:25,699 --> 00:14:27,732
So, the little gargoyles,
they're, like,
307
00:14:27,734 --> 00:14:31,236
jumping all over the place.
They're laughing.
308
00:14:31,238 --> 00:14:35,773
I mean,
they absolutely love it.
309
00:14:35,775 --> 00:14:38,209
I mean, they're jumping
up and down on the beds,
310
00:14:38,211 --> 00:14:40,478
and I'm gonna say
that I do think
311
00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:43,615
that the living are pretty
damn well aware of these things.
312
00:14:43,617 --> 00:14:44,983
I think they're feeling,
you know,
313
00:14:44,985 --> 00:14:46,784
they're definitely feeling
the [bleep] pressure
314
00:14:46,786 --> 00:14:50,421
on the bed and [bleep]
Yeah.
315
00:14:50,423 --> 00:14:52,390
They're [bleep]
with the living.
316
00:14:52,392 --> 00:14:54,292
Do you know
what these are?
317
00:14:54,294 --> 00:14:56,594
I don't know yet.
They were never alive.
318
00:14:56,596 --> 00:14:57,662
I don't know
if they're tricksters
319
00:14:57,664 --> 00:14:58,997
or some kind of demon.
320
00:15:04,804 --> 00:15:06,871
This is your house.
Mm-hmm.
321
00:15:06,873 --> 00:15:08,907
Now, your sister moved
in about 31/2 years ago,
322
00:15:08,909 --> 00:15:10,341
and you did
the right thing.
323
00:15:10,343 --> 00:15:11,342
You made her come in
324
00:15:11,344 --> 00:15:12,610
when she was going through
a tough time.
325
00:15:12,612 --> 00:15:13,645
You got to be worried
about her.
326
00:15:13,647 --> 00:15:15,246
Very worried.
327
00:15:15,248 --> 00:15:17,015
As far as experiences go,
have you had any?
328
00:15:17,017 --> 00:15:19,784
Yes. I felt someone actually
grab my ankle
329
00:15:19,786 --> 00:15:21,853
and just
jerk my foot down.
330
00:15:21,855 --> 00:15:23,388
So, now are you sure
this wasn't some kind of
331
00:15:23,390 --> 00:15:25,290
a sleep paralysis thing?
332
00:15:25,292 --> 00:15:26,658
I'm sure it wasn't.
333
00:15:26,660 --> 00:15:30,395
It has never happened before
and never happened again.
334
00:15:30,397 --> 00:15:32,931
You sound like you're
really tense about it
335
00:15:32,933 --> 00:15:34,132
right now
talking about it.
336
00:15:34,134 --> 00:15:35,900
Yeah,
it was very scary.
337
00:15:35,902 --> 00:15:39,570
My heart was pounding for,
I'm sure, hours after that.
338
00:15:39,572 --> 00:15:42,407
I don't think I would have --
I think I would have ran.
339
00:15:42,409 --> 00:15:44,075
Okay. Did
anything else happen?
340
00:15:44,077 --> 00:15:46,577
Yes. I had
one other experience
341
00:15:46,579 --> 00:15:48,413
that was just
the worst one, you know.
342
00:15:48,415 --> 00:15:49,480
What happened?
343
00:15:49,482 --> 00:15:51,282
I was basically
pinned down in bed.
344
00:15:51,284 --> 00:15:53,584
I felt like there were two hands
on my shoulders
345
00:15:53,586 --> 00:15:56,621
literally holding me
down in bed,
346
00:15:56,623 --> 00:15:58,790
and I woke up gasping.
347
00:15:58,792 --> 00:16:00,425
What'd you do?
348
00:16:00,427 --> 00:16:02,460
I started to call out.
349
00:16:02,462 --> 00:16:06,130
I told it to leave me alone,
and I was always told, you know,
350
00:16:06,132 --> 00:16:08,566
"Say, 'In the name
of Jesus Christ, leave me,'"
351
00:16:08,568 --> 00:16:10,501
you know, things like that
because it was --
352
00:16:10,503 --> 00:16:11,736
I don't know
how long it was.
353
00:16:11,738 --> 00:16:14,105
And finally, I just
feel it lift like it
354
00:16:14,107 --> 00:16:16,774
just took its hands off me
and left me alone.
355
00:16:16,776 --> 00:16:18,843
Okay.
356
00:16:18,845 --> 00:16:21,813
It's okay.
You all right?
357
00:16:21,815 --> 00:16:23,281
Come here.
I'm okay. Thanks.
358
00:16:23,283 --> 00:16:24,582
Aww, I'm sorry.
359
00:16:24,584 --> 00:16:26,417
It's okay.
360
00:16:30,557 --> 00:16:34,125
This person, I feel,
is, like, a sensitive.
361
00:16:34,127 --> 00:16:36,394
Something's
trying to talk to her.
362
00:16:36,396 --> 00:16:39,530
She's getting
physically injured.
363
00:16:43,303 --> 00:16:46,471
So, I'm seeing there's,
like, a woman in here.
364
00:16:46,473 --> 00:16:48,106
Is this the person
you were describing
365
00:16:48,108 --> 00:16:49,707
in the bedroom
as a sensitive?
366
00:16:49,709 --> 00:16:50,842
I think so.
367
00:16:50,844 --> 00:16:53,478
I'm getting frustration,
frustrations.
368
00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:58,616
Stuff is moving,
something with pots and pans.
369
00:16:58,618 --> 00:17:02,787
I think this living woman with
abilities is creating a P.K.
370
00:17:02,789 --> 00:17:05,857
P.K. manifestations are
extremely powerful
371
00:17:05,859 --> 00:17:08,860
because they can cause things
to move on their own.
372
00:17:08,862 --> 00:17:10,828
So, is it just
the pots and pans?
373
00:17:10,830 --> 00:17:13,431
No! Mnh-mnh.
374
00:17:13,433 --> 00:17:16,067
She has issues
with herself.
375
00:17:16,069 --> 00:17:18,903
She has some kind of
guilt complex.
376
00:17:18,905 --> 00:17:20,438
She thinks that
somebody's, like,
377
00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:24,242
hitting her or strangling her,
but actually,
378
00:17:24,244 --> 00:17:27,011
she is manifesting
enough energy into,
379
00:17:27,013 --> 00:17:31,582
like, a physical manifestation
and then attacking herself.
380
00:17:31,584 --> 00:17:34,519
It's pretty advanced.
381
00:17:34,521 --> 00:17:35,953
I don't like it in here.
382
00:17:35,955 --> 00:17:37,622
It's terrible! Terrible!
383
00:17:51,604 --> 00:17:53,805
Amy and I have done
investigations up here before,
384
00:17:53,807 --> 00:17:55,640
so my first call was
to an old friend,
385
00:17:55,642 --> 00:17:58,009
Chris Enss,
an historical author.
386
00:17:58,011 --> 00:17:59,844
Now, she did some
digging for me,
387
00:17:59,846 --> 00:18:01,746
and it turns out one
of the very first owners
388
00:18:01,748 --> 00:18:04,315
of the property was involved
in an epic family feud
389
00:18:04,317 --> 00:18:06,184
I'm definitely going
to want to know about.
390
00:18:12,258 --> 00:18:13,624
So, Chris, it's good
to see you again.
391
00:18:13,626 --> 00:18:16,427
Before we get to this big family
feud, who are the players?
392
00:18:16,429 --> 00:18:19,764
The players in this situation
are Jefferson Wilcoxson
393
00:18:19,766 --> 00:18:21,499
and his brother,
Jackson,
394
00:18:21,501 --> 00:18:26,471
and here's a picture
of Jefferson here.
395
00:18:26,473 --> 00:18:29,273
In 1849, the brothers
left Missouri
396
00:18:29,275 --> 00:18:31,843
and came out west
looking for gold.
397
00:18:31,845 --> 00:18:34,312
The brothers
did not find gold,
398
00:18:34,314 --> 00:18:37,715
but they made a fortune
selling supplies
399
00:18:37,717 --> 00:18:42,453
to the other 49ers,
and they made a lot of money.
400
00:18:42,455 --> 00:18:44,322
How did they wind up
on my client's property?
401
00:18:44,324 --> 00:18:47,859
Jackson had a lot of property,
and when he passed away,
402
00:18:47,861 --> 00:18:51,395
he willed the property
to Jefferson,
403
00:18:51,397 --> 00:18:52,964
and so
that's how Jefferson
404
00:18:52,966 --> 00:18:56,868
is now in charge
of that land.
405
00:18:56,870 --> 00:18:59,470
So, Chris, is this land
transfer part of the feud?
406
00:18:59,472 --> 00:19:03,508
No, it involves Jefferson
and his niece, Amanda.
407
00:19:03,510 --> 00:19:05,243
Right. So, how'd she wind up
in the picture?
408
00:19:05,245 --> 00:19:07,278
Well, Jefferson is sick,
and he needs someone
409
00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:10,915
to take care of him,
so he does send for his niece.
410
00:19:10,917 --> 00:19:12,950
She's quick
to come west.
411
00:19:12,952 --> 00:19:14,585
How old is Amanda
at this point?
412
00:19:14,587 --> 00:19:16,254
She's 19 years old.
413
00:19:16,256 --> 00:19:22,093
For the next 20 years, she gives
up her life to devote to him.
414
00:19:22,095 --> 00:19:25,997
She bathes him.
She takes care of his finances.
415
00:19:25,999 --> 00:19:28,466
She promises even
not to marry.
416
00:19:28,468 --> 00:19:32,770
He promises that he's going
to be giving her $150,000
417
00:19:32,772 --> 00:19:35,206
when he passes away.
418
00:19:35,208 --> 00:19:36,774
When did things go bad?
419
00:19:36,776 --> 00:19:41,512
When Jefferson dies,
he has left a lot of funds
420
00:19:41,514 --> 00:19:45,816
to his family members,
but nothing to Amanda.
421
00:19:45,818 --> 00:19:47,251
Well, Chris, it sounds
like she got screwed.
422
00:19:47,253 --> 00:19:49,420
Did she contest the will at all?
What happened?
423
00:19:49,422 --> 00:19:55,026
She does. She hires attorneys to
go in and fight this will.
424
00:19:55,028 --> 00:19:57,261
So, she went to trial.
How did it go?
425
00:19:57,263 --> 00:20:03,334
What they give her is $18,000,
which they estimate is her worth
426
00:20:03,336 --> 00:20:06,304
for all of those years
of taking care of her uncle.
427
00:20:06,306 --> 00:20:07,939
Sounds like she gave up
her life for him
428
00:20:07,941 --> 00:20:09,740
and got practically
nothing in return.
429
00:20:09,742 --> 00:20:13,044
Well, yes, she had suitors
who wanted to marry her,
430
00:20:13,046 --> 00:20:15,246
and she had
to call it off.
431
00:20:15,248 --> 00:20:18,583
She gave up men
that might have been the people
432
00:20:18,585 --> 00:20:20,484
that loved her
for the rest of her life.
433
00:20:25,592 --> 00:20:29,126
So, the little gargoyles
are pissing off the living,
434
00:20:29,128 --> 00:20:31,429
and the living are getting
pissed at one another.
435
00:20:31,431 --> 00:20:33,965
What they're doing to the living
is, like, irritating them.
436
00:20:33,967 --> 00:20:36,934
The gargoyle-y things
really want the living
437
00:20:36,936 --> 00:20:39,337
to turn on one another.
438
00:20:39,339 --> 00:20:42,473
They appreciate when
horrible things happen,
439
00:20:42,475 --> 00:20:45,509
and if they can
nudge it along,
440
00:20:45,511 --> 00:20:48,145
it's what's causing
a lot of the agitation.
441
00:20:48,147 --> 00:20:49,213
Do you have any idea
442
00:20:49,215 --> 00:20:50,881
how long these things
have been here?
443
00:20:50,883 --> 00:20:53,384
Forever.
Is it just this house?
444
00:20:53,386 --> 00:20:55,953
No.
Where else?
445
00:20:55,955 --> 00:21:00,791
Oh, around, you know,
pretty far, yeah.
446
00:21:00,793 --> 00:21:02,493
I think that they like it,
you know,
447
00:21:02,495 --> 00:21:04,095
when murders
and [bleep] happen.
448
00:21:08,034 --> 00:21:09,333
Everyone in the house
is complaining
449
00:21:09,335 --> 00:21:11,035
about growling and footsteps.
450
00:21:11,037 --> 00:21:13,437
Of course, they're convinced
it's paranormal.
451
00:21:13,439 --> 00:21:16,274
Call me crazy.
It could just be rodents.
452
00:21:16,276 --> 00:21:17,475
I'm driving
up to the house now
453
00:21:17,477 --> 00:21:19,076
to meet with
a pest-control expert
454
00:21:19,078 --> 00:21:21,178
who's gonna give the place
a complete once-over.
455
00:21:28,421 --> 00:21:29,553
All right, guys, so,
this is the deal,
456
00:21:29,555 --> 00:21:30,788
why I called you
out here.
457
00:21:30,790 --> 00:21:32,256
My clients that live
in this house are complaining
458
00:21:32,258 --> 00:21:36,193
about growling and noises
and knocks and stuff like that.
459
00:21:36,195 --> 00:21:38,496
Call me nutty, but we're out
in the middle of the woods here,
460
00:21:38,498 --> 00:21:39,497
so I'm thinking
it could be
461
00:21:39,499 --> 00:21:41,265
some kind of a rodent
or an animal.
462
00:21:41,267 --> 00:21:42,767
You guys get anything
like that out here?
463
00:21:42,769 --> 00:21:44,101
Yeah, definitely.
464
00:21:44,103 --> 00:21:46,337
Banging noises and stuff
could be a rodent. Okay.
465
00:21:46,339 --> 00:21:47,872
Could be a large rat
running around.
466
00:21:47,874 --> 00:21:50,074
All right, so, do me a favor --
Go in there,
467
00:21:50,076 --> 00:21:51,409
do the best you can,
the entire house,
468
00:21:51,411 --> 00:21:52,677
and let me know
what you find.
469
00:21:52,679 --> 00:21:54,645
All right, sounds good.
470
00:21:54,647 --> 00:21:57,748
With all the bizarre sounds
Heidi and her family
471
00:21:57,750 --> 00:22:02,286
are hearing, I know I have to
rule out the obvious first,
472
00:22:02,288 --> 00:22:05,189
and if there isn't
a physical explanation,
473
00:22:05,191 --> 00:22:08,326
our only hopes for answers
will have to come from Amy.
474
00:22:08,328 --> 00:22:09,660
Okay, guys, so,
how'd it go?
475
00:22:09,662 --> 00:22:11,929
My inspection on the lower
basement area down there,
476
00:22:11,931 --> 00:22:13,531
all I found was
a light infestation of mice.
477
00:22:13,533 --> 00:22:14,965
Mice. All right.
478
00:22:14,967 --> 00:22:17,168
Could that cause those noises
they're hearing? No.
479
00:22:17,170 --> 00:22:18,502
All right, so,
nothing you guys found
480
00:22:18,504 --> 00:22:19,870
would cause
any kind of sound
481
00:22:19,872 --> 00:22:22,673
that would sound like growling,
scratching, knocking?
482
00:22:22,675 --> 00:22:23,874
No.
483
00:22:23,876 --> 00:22:24,909
All right, so,
I know the problem's
484
00:22:24,911 --> 00:22:27,011
not nature
and their surroundings.
485
00:22:27,013 --> 00:22:29,413
Correct.
486
00:22:29,415 --> 00:22:34,485
So, the little gargoyles,
I hear them down here playing.
487
00:22:34,487 --> 00:22:36,921
The living are
pretty freaked out.
488
00:22:36,923 --> 00:22:39,757
Whoever stays in here
probably hearing those
489
00:22:39,759 --> 00:22:42,393
little guys
causing a ruckus.
490
00:22:45,264 --> 00:22:47,131
They're talking,
but it's not a language
491
00:22:47,133 --> 00:22:49,967
that anybody
would understand.
492
00:22:49,969 --> 00:22:52,636
Need to go.
Need to go.
493
00:22:52,638 --> 00:22:54,705
I hate this place.
Hate it.
494
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:02,680
If you need us
to investigate
495
00:23:02,682 --> 00:23:04,315
unexplained activity
in your home,
496
00:23:04,317 --> 00:23:07,151
go to the "Dead Files" page
at travelchannel.com.
497
00:23:07,153 --> 00:23:09,553
Click on "Help me, Dead Files!"
to submit your story,
498
00:23:09,555 --> 00:23:10,121
and we'll help if we can.
499
00:23:18,030 --> 00:23:21,599
So far, I've got a family
under attack on a property
500
00:23:21,601 --> 00:23:23,667
where a nasty
family feud took place,
501
00:23:23,669 --> 00:23:25,302
but I want to see
if there's anything else
502
00:23:25,304 --> 00:23:27,405
that could help
my investigation.
503
00:23:27,407 --> 00:23:30,775
Searching through old records,
I find an unsolved murder
504
00:23:30,777 --> 00:23:33,010
that took place in 1973.
505
00:23:33,012 --> 00:23:34,612
Turns out the homicide happened
506
00:23:34,614 --> 00:23:37,882
right next
to my client's property.
507
00:23:37,884 --> 00:23:40,518
Now, this case is still open,
so the local cops
508
00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:42,086
don't want to talk to me
about this murder.
509
00:23:42,088 --> 00:23:43,621
But I've managed
to track down a P.I.
510
00:23:43,623 --> 00:23:45,823
who says the victim belonged
to a strange cult
511
00:23:45,825 --> 00:23:46,957
and that they set up shop
512
00:23:46,959 --> 00:23:48,759
right next
to Heidi and Petra's house.
513
00:23:56,102 --> 00:23:57,968
Well, Larry, thanks
for meeting me.
514
00:23:57,970 --> 00:23:59,503
I really appreciate that.
515
00:23:59,505 --> 00:24:01,205
Before we get to
the unsolved homicide,
516
00:24:01,207 --> 00:24:02,606
what's the story
with this cult?
517
00:24:02,608 --> 00:24:05,576
It was called
the Esoteric Fraternity.
518
00:24:05,578 --> 00:24:07,812
The cult originally
started in New York.
519
00:24:07,814 --> 00:24:11,081
The founder was a guy,
a Civil War veteran
520
00:24:11,083 --> 00:24:14,418
and an author named
Hiram Butler.
521
00:24:14,420 --> 00:24:17,188
Mr. Butler wrote a book
in the late 1880s
522
00:24:17,190 --> 00:24:18,989
called "Solar Biology."
523
00:24:18,991 --> 00:24:22,293
"Solar Biology" ended up being
the bible, if you would,
524
00:24:22,295 --> 00:24:23,694
for the fraternity.
525
00:24:23,696 --> 00:24:28,466
It spouts immortality
through celibacy.
526
00:24:28,468 --> 00:24:30,201
All right, so, people bought
into this crap?
527
00:24:30,203 --> 00:24:33,471
They did, and this drew the ire
of the authorities
528
00:24:33,473 --> 00:24:35,539
in both
New York and Boston,
529
00:24:35,541 --> 00:24:38,709
and I have an article here
from the Boston Herald.
530
00:24:38,711 --> 00:24:40,110
Why'd they
go after him?
531
00:24:40,112 --> 00:24:44,114
Mr. Butler purified the women
members of the fraternity
532
00:24:44,116 --> 00:24:45,516
by having sex with them,
533
00:24:45,518 --> 00:24:46,817
and that didn't
set too well.
534
00:24:46,819 --> 00:24:48,118
Okay.
535
00:24:48,120 --> 00:24:50,588
So, this guy was full
of [bleep], basically. Right.
536
00:24:50,590 --> 00:24:51,822
How or when
does he wind up
537
00:24:51,824 --> 00:24:53,257
right next
to my client's property?
538
00:24:53,259 --> 00:24:57,061
Records indicate that, in 1891,
he purchased the 500 acres
539
00:24:57,063 --> 00:24:58,829
next to
your client's property.
540
00:24:58,831 --> 00:25:00,531
He built
a four-story building,
541
00:25:00,533 --> 00:25:02,900
and he called it
the Esoteric College.
542
00:25:02,902 --> 00:25:04,735
So, how long does this guy,
Butler, stick around?
543
00:25:04,737 --> 00:25:08,305
He stayed on the property
until 1916.
544
00:25:08,307 --> 00:25:11,175
At the time of his death,
he was 75.
545
00:25:11,177 --> 00:25:14,111
By all accounts, his followers
were quite disappointed
546
00:25:14,113 --> 00:25:16,547
that he did not
achieve immortality.
547
00:25:16,549 --> 00:25:20,084
Right.
So much for that.
548
00:25:20,086 --> 00:25:22,319
There's a bad man out here.
549
00:25:22,321 --> 00:25:23,487
Mnh. Mnh.
550
00:25:23,489 --> 00:25:25,856
I don't like it over there.
Mnh-mnh. Mnh-mnh.
551
00:25:25,858 --> 00:25:30,561
No. No.
552
00:25:30,563 --> 00:25:32,663
I'm repulsed.
553
00:25:32,665 --> 00:25:34,765
I feel like my stomach
drops in here.
554
00:25:34,767 --> 00:25:39,837
There's a lot of domestic
violence in here.
555
00:25:39,839 --> 00:25:42,306
I'm feeling panic and fear.
556
00:25:42,308 --> 00:25:44,775
Got to calm it down.
Got to calm it down.
557
00:25:44,777 --> 00:25:47,711
Panic.
558
00:25:47,713 --> 00:25:50,581
So, Larry, I know the homicide
happened back in '73,
559
00:25:50,583 --> 00:25:52,550
and the cult was still going on
back then, correct?
560
00:25:52,552 --> 00:25:54,552
Yes, it was.
The cult was still there,
561
00:25:54,554 --> 00:25:56,453
although there were
only four members left.
562
00:25:56,455 --> 00:25:57,922
Okay, so, what do we know
about the victim?
563
00:25:57,924 --> 00:25:59,857
Victim's name was
Matthew Bosek.
564
00:25:59,859 --> 00:26:01,125
He was
a Russian immigrant.
565
00:26:01,127 --> 00:26:03,160
He was said to be
a mild-mannered man.
566
00:26:03,162 --> 00:26:04,828
He had lived
on the property
567
00:26:04,830 --> 00:26:07,531
and been a member of the cult
for over 50 years.
568
00:26:07,533 --> 00:26:09,333
Well, how's the circumstances
of his death? What happened?
569
00:26:09,335 --> 00:26:12,002
Well, on the night
of August 2nd, 1973,
570
00:26:12,004 --> 00:26:14,338
they found Mr. Bosek
in the fetal position
571
00:26:14,340 --> 00:26:17,341
laying on his right side
in a pool of blood.
572
00:26:17,343 --> 00:26:21,145
He had three shots in the back
and one in the back of the head.
573
00:26:21,147 --> 00:26:23,814
So, it sounds like we got
a execution-style homicide.
574
00:26:23,816 --> 00:26:25,716
Certainly fits
common idea
575
00:26:25,718 --> 00:26:27,518
of an execution-style
killing, yes.
576
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:29,687
All right, was there
any indication of a robbery?
577
00:26:29,689 --> 00:26:30,988
None.
578
00:26:30,990 --> 00:26:33,624
Okay, so, there's only three
people left on this property.
579
00:26:33,626 --> 00:26:35,125
I assume the cops
talked to them.
580
00:26:35,127 --> 00:26:36,961
They did interview
the people as well
581
00:26:36,963 --> 00:26:39,597
as some of the adjacent
property owners.
582
00:26:39,599 --> 00:26:41,165
Nobody came up
with anything.
583
00:26:41,167 --> 00:26:43,200
And it's still open
to this day. It is.
584
00:26:43,202 --> 00:26:45,302
It seems like somebody
got away with murder.
585
00:26:48,941 --> 00:26:53,644
I'm seeing two men,
and I'm seeing the word murder.
586
00:26:53,646 --> 00:26:55,646
I'm seeing, like,
a red t-shirt.
587
00:26:55,648 --> 00:26:57,648
So, this may be 1980s.
588
00:26:57,650 --> 00:27:01,285
So, I'm getting two men,
but then I'm hearing a female.
589
00:27:01,287 --> 00:27:03,354
Maybe there's, like,
some kind of domestic [bleep]
590
00:27:03,356 --> 00:27:04,822
going on here.
591
00:27:04,824 --> 00:27:09,827
I'm hearing a --
I think it's a shotgun.
592
00:27:09,829 --> 00:27:11,862
I'm hearing, like,
an explosion.
593
00:27:11,864 --> 00:27:15,466
Feel like I'm being hit, and,
like, the head pain from --
594
00:27:15,468 --> 00:27:18,435
Dude, major head
trauma going on.
595
00:27:25,678 --> 00:27:28,112
I saw several disturbing
things on my walk,
596
00:27:28,114 --> 00:27:30,948
but the gargoyles
terrorizing the living
597
00:27:30,950 --> 00:27:33,283
have me
the most concerned.
598
00:27:33,285 --> 00:27:37,655
These things are
on the bed.
599
00:27:37,657 --> 00:27:40,124
To me,
they looked frightening.
600
00:27:40,126 --> 00:27:42,893
They had red eyes,
and they were, like,
601
00:27:42,895 --> 00:27:44,695
very, very dark.
602
00:27:50,803 --> 00:27:53,804
Amy, is this
what you saw?
603
00:27:53,806 --> 00:27:55,205
Yes.
604
00:28:14,927 --> 00:28:17,695
Now that Amy and I have
completed our investigations,
605
00:28:17,697 --> 00:28:19,930
we're ready to reveal
our findings to each other
606
00:28:19,932 --> 00:28:23,033
and our clients
for the first time.
607
00:28:23,035 --> 00:28:24,868
So, Amy, I want you
to meet Heidi,
608
00:28:24,870 --> 00:28:28,806
this is her sister, Petra,
and Heidi's daughter, Sasha.
609
00:28:28,808 --> 00:28:31,942
They all live here with Heidi's
other daughter, Ciara,
610
00:28:31,944 --> 00:28:34,378
- who's about 15.
- Yes.
611
00:28:34,380 --> 00:28:35,779
Now, here's the deal.
612
00:28:35,781 --> 00:28:38,615
Heidi's already had
a brush with death once.
613
00:28:38,617 --> 00:28:40,918
She beat lung cancer,
but now she feels
614
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:42,453
she's in a fight
for her life again
615
00:28:42,455 --> 00:28:44,488
by whatever's
in this house.
616
00:28:44,490 --> 00:28:47,458
All three of these ladies
are terrified, and they feel
617
00:28:47,460 --> 00:28:49,693
if you can't come up
with a solution for them,
618
00:28:49,695 --> 00:28:52,162
somebody's gonna
get seriously hurt.
619
00:28:52,164 --> 00:28:53,997
Now that Amy knows a little bit
about you guys,
620
00:28:53,999 --> 00:28:55,799
I'm gonna ask her
to describe her walk.
621
00:28:59,071 --> 00:29:03,207
When I arrived here, I got
that there's something wrong
622
00:29:03,209 --> 00:29:05,409
with this land
and this neighborhood.
623
00:29:05,411 --> 00:29:10,948
Then when I got inside,
I see the word murder.
624
00:29:10,950 --> 00:29:14,485
And I saw
two men and a woman,
625
00:29:14,487 --> 00:29:18,555
and then I heard
the blast of a shotgun.
626
00:29:18,557 --> 00:29:23,227
And I got something wrong
with my head and my eyes,
627
00:29:23,229 --> 00:29:26,897
and I got that it was part of
some kind of domestic dispute.
628
00:29:26,899 --> 00:29:30,434
And it seemed, like, recent,
like 1980s.
629
00:29:30,436 --> 00:29:34,371
This is a small town,
and the only documented murder
630
00:29:34,373 --> 00:29:36,740
within that time frame
you're talking about happened
631
00:29:36,742 --> 00:29:39,710
actually right
next door in 1973.
632
00:29:39,712 --> 00:29:42,346
Now, from the 1890s all the way
through the 1970s,
633
00:29:42,348 --> 00:29:44,448
there was a cult
that owned 500 acres
634
00:29:44,450 --> 00:29:48,152
right next door to your property
called the Esoteric Fraternity.
635
00:29:48,154 --> 00:29:51,388
By the 1970s, there was
only four members left.
636
00:29:51,390 --> 00:29:53,357
Now, one of them was
a 79-year-old
637
00:29:53,359 --> 00:29:55,793
Russian immigrant
named Matthew Bosek.
638
00:29:55,795 --> 00:29:59,997
August 2nd, 1973, he's working
on his vegetable garden.
639
00:29:59,999 --> 00:30:02,099
All of a sudden,
four shots rung out.
640
00:30:02,101 --> 00:30:03,200
Three hit him in the back.
641
00:30:03,202 --> 00:30:05,369
One caught him in the back
of the head.
642
00:30:05,371 --> 00:30:07,871
the guy was hit execution style
from what I can tell.
643
00:30:07,873 --> 00:30:10,507
I think it was one of the other
three cult members.
644
00:30:10,509 --> 00:30:14,545
Yeah. Seemed like they knew
each other, for sure.
645
00:30:14,547 --> 00:30:16,046
They knew each other.
646
00:30:16,048 --> 00:30:18,148
Cops interviewed them,
but nothing came of it.
647
00:30:18,150 --> 00:30:20,651
Case is still open
to this day.
648
00:30:24,423 --> 00:30:26,323
When I went into
the bedroom upstairs,
649
00:30:26,325 --> 00:30:29,326
and it's the one with just
the one bed in it,
650
00:30:29,328 --> 00:30:34,198
I got that the individual
in there was a sensitive
651
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,868
and that the dead were
trying desperately
652
00:30:37,870 --> 00:30:40,604
to communicate
to that person.
653
00:30:40,606 --> 00:30:42,239
Then I walked
into the kitchen,
654
00:30:42,241 --> 00:30:46,210
and then I saw this person
preparing dinner.
655
00:30:46,212 --> 00:30:49,913
There were pots and pans
clanging or moving,
656
00:30:49,915 --> 00:30:51,882
and then I realized
that this person
657
00:30:51,884 --> 00:30:53,817
had created a P.K. entity.
658
00:30:53,819 --> 00:30:56,353
This one is very advanced
and unusual,
659
00:30:56,355 --> 00:30:58,488
because not only is it
moving objects,
660
00:30:58,490 --> 00:31:01,425
it's also attacking
the person who created it.
661
00:31:01,427 --> 00:31:04,228
I got that this person
has an enormous amount of guilt
662
00:31:04,230 --> 00:31:07,130
and that a lot of things
that would be happening
663
00:31:07,132 --> 00:31:12,970
would be more projected
onto herself.
664
00:31:12,972 --> 00:31:16,106
I'm just really surprised,
I have to admit.
665
00:31:19,178 --> 00:31:20,711
You know,
I always thought that Heidi was
666
00:31:20,713 --> 00:31:22,112
more of a sensitive.
667
00:31:22,114 --> 00:31:25,382
I would never guessed that you
would be talking about me.
668
00:31:25,384 --> 00:31:27,150
She's felt very guilty
about a lot,
669
00:31:27,152 --> 00:31:28,652
and I've told her
she needs to let it go.
670
00:31:28,654 --> 00:31:30,821
She's held a lot in.
671
00:31:30,823 --> 00:31:33,891
I wasn't really there
when my mom passed away,
672
00:31:33,893 --> 00:31:36,393
and that was probably
the biggest guilt.
673
00:31:36,395 --> 00:31:40,163
Typically, people with that
ability are the people
674
00:31:40,165 --> 00:31:42,099
who take on everything,
675
00:31:42,101 --> 00:31:45,802
take care of everybody else,
repress, repress, repress.
676
00:31:45,804 --> 00:31:47,638
You just described me.
That's her.
677
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,974
And then -- Bam.
That's her to a "T."
678
00:31:50,976 --> 00:31:54,111
Amy says you turned
this PK thing against yourself.
679
00:31:54,113 --> 00:31:56,113
I want to go through some of the
things you've been experiencing
680
00:31:56,115 --> 00:31:58,548
like the time
you were grabbed in bed.
681
00:31:58,550 --> 00:32:00,350
I was just ready
to fall asleep,
682
00:32:00,352 --> 00:32:01,752
and I had just
rolled over in bed
683
00:32:01,754 --> 00:32:04,154
and felt a hand wrap
around my ankle
684
00:32:04,156 --> 00:32:05,756
and just jerk me.
685
00:32:05,758 --> 00:32:07,858
But you were also pinned.
686
00:32:07,860 --> 00:32:11,561
Right. I was in the house alone,
and I woke up just feeling
687
00:32:11,563 --> 00:32:13,897
these two hands
on my shoulder,
688
00:32:13,899 --> 00:32:16,300
you know, just holding me
to the bed.
689
00:32:16,302 --> 00:32:18,669
That was
my worst experience.
690
00:32:18,671 --> 00:32:21,371
Now, is that the P.K.
doing that to her?
691
00:32:21,373 --> 00:32:22,639
I think so, yeah.
692
00:32:22,641 --> 00:32:24,207
So, it sounds like
you're haunting yourself.
693
00:32:24,209 --> 00:32:26,176
Does sound like that,
doesn't it?
694
00:32:31,150 --> 00:32:32,416
So, what else?
695
00:32:32,418 --> 00:32:37,187
So, during my walk,
I saw these two beings,
696
00:32:37,189 --> 00:32:40,057
and to me,
they looked like gargoyles.
697
00:32:40,059 --> 00:32:41,692
They're extremely bad.
698
00:32:41,694 --> 00:32:43,493
They're not just
in the house.
699
00:32:43,495 --> 00:32:46,196
They definitely go around
the neighborhood.
700
00:32:46,198 --> 00:32:48,198
They're attracted
to negativity.
701
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,334
That's what they thrive
and feed on.
702
00:32:50,336 --> 00:32:52,869
One of their favorite areas
is in this house,
703
00:32:52,871 --> 00:32:56,873
and it's in
the larger back bedroom.
704
00:32:56,875 --> 00:32:58,809
I think it has
three beds in it.
705
00:32:58,811 --> 00:33:02,279
Right, so, that's where Heidi,
Sasha, and Ciara sleep.
706
00:33:02,281 --> 00:33:05,916
Okay, they love it in there --
love it.
707
00:33:05,918 --> 00:33:11,555
Their motivation is to pit
the living against one another.
708
00:33:11,557 --> 00:33:13,924
That's what they do.
709
00:33:13,926 --> 00:33:15,192
And that's what's
been happening.
710
00:33:15,194 --> 00:33:18,195
Yeah.
Yeah.
711
00:33:18,197 --> 00:33:21,131
We are argue
for no reason.
712
00:33:21,133 --> 00:33:24,201
We'll get in fights
over the simplest thing,
713
00:33:24,203 --> 00:33:25,302
and that's not us.
714
00:33:25,304 --> 00:33:27,504
We're a very tight,
close family,
715
00:33:27,506 --> 00:33:30,207
and also
with Sasha's breakdown.
716
00:33:30,209 --> 00:33:32,676
Sasha, do me a favor
in telling me, if you can,
717
00:33:32,678 --> 00:33:37,647
about your depression
and what you're going through?
718
00:33:37,649 --> 00:33:41,518
I had a mental
breakdown last year.
719
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:43,720
I feel like
I'm losing my mind.
720
00:33:45,824 --> 00:33:48,692
I can't function
outside.
721
00:33:48,694 --> 00:33:51,361
I feel like something's
holding me here.
722
00:33:51,363 --> 00:33:53,430
Was there a trigger?
723
00:33:53,432 --> 00:33:57,300
My entire childhood,
I was abused.
724
00:33:57,302 --> 00:34:00,704
I've been holding that
in my entire life.
725
00:34:00,706 --> 00:34:01,972
I never
talked about it.
726
00:34:01,974 --> 00:34:04,074
I never
cried about it.
727
00:34:04,076 --> 00:34:08,979
I held it in, and I tried
my hardest to ignore it.
728
00:34:08,981 --> 00:34:10,347
And I feel like
this house
729
00:34:10,349 --> 00:34:13,617
is just holding me back
from healing.
730
00:34:15,888 --> 00:34:17,788
Now, Amy, there is a history
of people turning
731
00:34:17,790 --> 00:34:19,623
against each other
on this property.
732
00:34:19,625 --> 00:34:21,425
One of the original owners
of your property
733
00:34:21,427 --> 00:34:25,462
was a guy named
Jefferson Wilcoxson.
734
00:34:25,464 --> 00:34:27,397
This guy was pretty well off,
735
00:34:27,399 --> 00:34:29,199
and he owned this property
back in the 1880s.
736
00:34:29,201 --> 00:34:32,536
By all accounts, he was
a great guy when he moved here,
737
00:34:32,538 --> 00:34:35,739
but the day he set foot
on this land, all that changed.
738
00:34:35,741 --> 00:34:38,642
He convinced a young niece
of his named Amanda
739
00:34:38,644 --> 00:34:40,477
to move in
and take care of him.
740
00:34:40,479 --> 00:34:44,247
I do have a picture
of Amanda.
741
00:34:44,249 --> 00:34:46,483
Now, when Amanda came
742
00:34:46,485 --> 00:34:48,652
and started
taking care of her uncle,
743
00:34:48,654 --> 00:34:52,989
she did everything
a maid would do and more
744
00:34:52,991 --> 00:34:54,458
because she knew,
at the end of it,
745
00:34:54,460 --> 00:34:57,594
when he died, she would be
a big part of his will.
746
00:34:57,596 --> 00:35:00,063
And this went on
for 20 years. Wow.
747
00:35:00,065 --> 00:35:04,401
Well, the old man finally keels
over and drops dead, right?
748
00:35:04,403 --> 00:35:06,103
She got nothing.
749
00:35:06,105 --> 00:35:08,038
So, Amanda sued the estate,
750
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:11,475
but she barely got any money
out of the courts.
751
00:35:11,477 --> 00:35:13,276
Now, these gargoyle things,
752
00:35:13,278 --> 00:35:15,545
could they have
influenced these people?
753
00:35:15,547 --> 00:35:18,381
Yes. Yes.
754
00:35:18,383 --> 00:35:20,317
This house is evil.
755
00:35:20,319 --> 00:35:22,352
I know without
a shadow of a doubt.
756
00:35:22,354 --> 00:35:24,421
Did these things
do anything else
757
00:35:24,423 --> 00:35:26,456
besides pit people
against each other?
758
00:35:26,458 --> 00:35:28,992
Yes, they make
loud noises.
759
00:35:28,994 --> 00:35:33,130
I heard them
laughing, grunting.
760
00:35:33,132 --> 00:35:34,431
Heidi, do me a favor.
761
00:35:34,433 --> 00:35:36,366
Describe the growling
thing to me.
762
00:35:36,368 --> 00:35:38,835
It's a weird growling --
like, this low growl,
763
00:35:38,837 --> 00:35:41,338
and then it almost
turns human at the end.
764
00:35:41,340 --> 00:35:43,807
Now, because they
were experiencing
765
00:35:43,809 --> 00:35:45,275
all these noises
and growling,
766
00:35:45,277 --> 00:35:48,612
I brought in
a pest-control expert to see
767
00:35:48,614 --> 00:35:50,213
if that was the problem.
768
00:35:50,215 --> 00:35:52,916
The only thing they found
were very small mice droppings
769
00:35:52,918 --> 00:35:56,052
but nothing that would cause
these kind of noises.
770
00:35:56,054 --> 00:35:58,688
The other thing I saw them was
jumping up and down on the beds,
771
00:35:58,690 --> 00:36:00,857
especially in the room
where the three beds are.
772
00:36:00,859 --> 00:36:02,692
They love that.
773
00:36:02,694 --> 00:36:04,828
At very least
once a week,
774
00:36:04,830 --> 00:36:07,264
my bed
gets shoved so hard
775
00:36:07,266 --> 00:36:10,200
that I am
awoken at night,
776
00:36:10,202 --> 00:36:11,902
and we're not talking
a little shove.
777
00:36:11,904 --> 00:36:14,504
It's a big, big shove.
778
00:36:14,506 --> 00:36:15,739
Wow.
779
00:36:15,741 --> 00:36:18,308
Also, they do like
to trick people.
780
00:36:18,310 --> 00:36:21,545
I think the living
would feel them rushing by.
781
00:36:21,547 --> 00:36:24,414
There's, like, a wind,
you know?
782
00:36:24,416 --> 00:36:27,851
That must be the things
that are rushing me
783
00:36:27,853 --> 00:36:29,386
and trying to go
right through me
784
00:36:29,388 --> 00:36:32,689
and trying to scare me,
and it works.
785
00:36:32,691 --> 00:36:34,357
I'm scared.
786
00:36:34,359 --> 00:36:36,326
It's very horrible.
787
00:36:36,328 --> 00:36:37,894
It's mean.
788
00:36:37,896 --> 00:36:39,429
Yeah, they are mean.
789
00:36:39,431 --> 00:36:40,797
Heidi, do me a favor.
790
00:36:40,799 --> 00:36:42,666
Talk about
getting shoved down the stairs.
791
00:36:42,668 --> 00:36:44,301
I had to go to work
one morning.
792
00:36:44,303 --> 00:36:47,537
I walk out the patio door,
and I get hit from behind,
793
00:36:47,539 --> 00:36:52,542
and I fall down three steps
onto the concrete.
794
00:36:52,544 --> 00:36:56,179
And would that be
these things also?
795
00:36:56,181 --> 00:36:58,481
Oh, yeah.
796
00:36:58,483 --> 00:37:02,752
I did have an artist do a sketch
of one of the situations
797
00:37:02,754 --> 00:37:06,756
that I saw
with that back bedroom area.
798
00:37:11,763 --> 00:37:14,097
Oh, you're not going
to want to see this.
799
00:37:20,973 --> 00:37:22,539
Oh, hell, no.
800
00:37:28,580 --> 00:37:32,949
These little [bleep] need to go.
I want them gone.
801
00:37:32,951 --> 00:37:34,651
When we
first moved in,
802
00:37:34,653 --> 00:37:37,754
Ciara would see a shadow
outside the window
803
00:37:37,756 --> 00:37:40,924
with glowing red eyes,
and she could never fall asleep.
804
00:37:40,926 --> 00:37:43,293
She'd turn over and try her
hardest to fall asleep,
805
00:37:43,295 --> 00:37:45,362
but the red eyes
were always there.
806
00:37:45,364 --> 00:37:47,030
Now, not only your sister,
807
00:37:47,032 --> 00:37:49,566
but you saw
a shadow figure by your bed.
808
00:37:49,568 --> 00:37:52,168
Yeah.
809
00:37:52,170 --> 00:37:58,375
He stands right next to my bed,
and I see shadow.
810
00:37:58,377 --> 00:38:01,411
I see his frame.
I'm scared.
811
00:38:01,413 --> 00:38:03,680
I'm very scared of him.
812
00:38:03,682 --> 00:38:05,749
What the hell are they,
and what do they want?
813
00:38:05,751 --> 00:38:08,318
The little guys are what I call
814
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,488
the lowest level demon
that you could encounter --
815
00:38:11,490 --> 00:38:13,690
obviously, very evil.
816
00:38:13,692 --> 00:38:15,859
They've always been
in this area.
817
00:38:15,861 --> 00:38:19,396
They like when
horrible things happen.
818
00:38:19,398 --> 00:38:23,700
That's something that I think
would be their ultimate goal
819
00:38:23,702 --> 00:38:26,970
is to create people
killing other people.
820
00:38:30,142 --> 00:38:31,941
We've been feeling that.
821
00:38:31,943 --> 00:38:33,710
I'd rather be homeless
than live here.
822
00:38:37,349 --> 00:38:39,482
I want to know how we kill them.
823
00:38:57,069 --> 00:38:59,135
You know, Heidi, after fighting
and beating lung cancer,
824
00:38:59,137 --> 00:39:01,738
you deserve some peace
in your life,
825
00:39:01,740 --> 00:39:04,908
and it pisses me off that you
ended up in a house with demons.
826
00:39:04,910 --> 00:39:06,609
Look, I don't know
what Amy's gonna say,
827
00:39:06,611 --> 00:39:08,611
but I personally hope you can
find a way
828
00:39:08,613 --> 00:39:10,580
to kick these little
rat bastards out of here
829
00:39:10,582 --> 00:39:12,649
so you and your family
can live in peace.
830
00:39:15,454 --> 00:39:19,222
So, the first thing that
I would like to see you guys do
831
00:39:19,224 --> 00:39:23,426
is take buckets of salt water
and big sponges,
832
00:39:23,428 --> 00:39:25,895
and you are going to wash
every surface
833
00:39:25,897 --> 00:39:30,133
that you can with this
saltwater solution.
834
00:39:30,135 --> 00:39:34,404
The second thing you're
going to do is take sage,
835
00:39:34,406 --> 00:39:36,806
and you're going to go
to every single room
836
00:39:36,808 --> 00:39:41,211
with this
to every single doorway,
837
00:39:41,213 --> 00:39:45,482
and you're gonna seal it
with the sage.
838
00:39:45,484 --> 00:39:47,083
How often they got to do that?
839
00:39:47,085 --> 00:39:51,054
You're going to need
to cleanse once a month.
840
00:39:51,056 --> 00:39:52,422
You guys won't have
a problem with that?
841
00:39:52,424 --> 00:39:54,090
No.
842
00:39:54,092 --> 00:39:59,462
For the property line,
you need to go on a rock hunt.
843
00:39:59,464 --> 00:40:02,065
Just pick up rocks
that call to you.
844
00:40:02,067 --> 00:40:08,037
When you start building
your fence, so to speak,
845
00:40:08,039 --> 00:40:10,073
you'll take one rock at a time,
846
00:40:10,075 --> 00:40:12,575
place it on the earth and say,
847
00:40:12,577 --> 00:40:17,313
"Thank you, Earth, for providing
this protection for us forever."
848
00:40:17,315 --> 00:40:19,015
So, what is that gonna do?
849
00:40:19,017 --> 00:40:21,985
It's going to place
a protective barrier,
850
00:40:21,987 --> 00:40:27,757
and it's gonna keep these
demons outside of the barrier.
851
00:40:27,759 --> 00:40:34,531
For you, I would like you to
find a certified EMDR therapist.
852
00:40:34,533 --> 00:40:37,267
I'm not familiar with EMDR.
What exactly is that?
853
00:40:37,269 --> 00:40:42,439
So, basically, it's a form
of intensive therapy for people
854
00:40:42,441 --> 00:40:47,710
who have PTSD,
are stuck in grief, guilt.
855
00:40:47,712 --> 00:40:49,712
This will help
with your P.K.
856
00:40:49,714 --> 00:40:51,214
Okay.
857
00:40:51,216 --> 00:40:53,516
So, the big question
I have is
858
00:40:53,518 --> 00:40:55,385
if they do this huge
laundry list you got,
859
00:40:55,387 --> 00:40:58,388
which it sounds
like it's doable,
860
00:40:58,390 --> 00:41:01,291
will they start feeling better?
Will they stop fighting?
861
00:41:01,293 --> 00:41:02,826
Oh, yeah, it's gonna be
862
00:41:02,828 --> 00:41:07,263
pretty dramatic change,
actually. Yeah.
863
00:41:07,265 --> 00:41:10,467
I'm just happy that there
is something that we can do.
864
00:41:10,469 --> 00:41:12,469
If it's something
that needs to get done,
865
00:41:12,471 --> 00:41:13,970
then I'm willing to help,
866
00:41:13,972 --> 00:41:16,105
but ultimately I would
like to get out.
867
00:41:16,107 --> 00:41:19,209
There's too many
bad memories here.
868
00:41:19,211 --> 00:41:22,045
I will not go down
without a fight,
869
00:41:22,047 --> 00:41:25,515
and I'm willing
to fight and hard.
870
00:41:25,517 --> 00:41:29,452
They're not gonna
destroy my family anymore.
871
00:41:29,454 --> 00:41:32,555
I can't imagine the pain
this family's going through,
872
00:41:32,557 --> 00:41:34,958
being tormented by demons,
dead people,
873
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:36,926
and a P.K. manifestation,
874
00:41:36,928 --> 00:41:40,864
but with EMDR therapy,
Petra can weaken the P.K.,
875
00:41:40,866 --> 00:41:43,533
and a barrier will protect them
from the demons,
876
00:41:43,535 --> 00:41:46,836
allowing them to lead a safe
and peaceful life.
877
00:41:46,886 --> 00:41:51,436
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