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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:10,478 --> 00:00:12,678 I'm hearing murder. 2 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:16,849 They appreciate when horrible things happen. 3 00:00:16,851 --> 00:00:19,551 I know there's something very evil in this house. 4 00:00:19,553 --> 00:00:20,686 I don't know if they're tricksters 5 00:00:20,688 --> 00:00:22,488 or some kind of demon. 6 00:00:22,490 --> 00:00:25,290 I feel like I'm losing my mind. 7 00:00:25,292 --> 00:00:28,127 I'm feeling panic and fear. 8 00:00:28,129 --> 00:00:32,398 I hate this place -- hate it. 9 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:34,600 This seems like a possession. 10 00:00:34,602 --> 00:00:37,336 My name is Amy Allan. 11 00:00:37,338 --> 00:00:39,905 Everything was built on blood. 12 00:00:39,907 --> 00:00:41,273 I see dead people. 13 00:00:41,275 --> 00:00:42,574 Very disturbing. 14 00:00:42,576 --> 00:00:44,877 I speak to dead people. 15 00:00:44,879 --> 00:00:47,179 There's victims around him. Ow. 16 00:00:47,181 --> 00:00:48,213 And they speak to me. 17 00:00:48,215 --> 00:00:50,482 Her voice sounds like death. 18 00:00:50,484 --> 00:00:53,652 But there's only one way to know if my findings are real. 19 00:00:53,654 --> 00:00:56,088 The living don't stand a chance here. 20 00:00:56,090 --> 00:00:57,890 I rely on my partner. 21 00:00:57,892 --> 00:00:59,191 I'm Steve Di Schiavi. 22 00:00:59,193 --> 00:01:01,393 I'm a retired New York City homicide detective. 23 00:01:01,395 --> 00:01:02,628 You could have got killed. 24 00:01:02,630 --> 00:01:06,432 And I know every person, every house has secrets. 25 00:01:06,434 --> 00:01:07,666 This is coming straight from Hell. 26 00:01:07,668 --> 00:01:09,068 It's my job to reveal them. 27 00:01:09,070 --> 00:01:10,736 Your mom was murdered right here in this room? 28 00:01:10,738 --> 00:01:11,770 Yes, she was. 29 00:01:11,772 --> 00:01:13,338 But Steve and I never speak... 30 00:01:13,340 --> 00:01:15,374 We never communicate during an investigation. 31 00:01:15,376 --> 00:01:16,775 ...until the very end... 32 00:01:16,777 --> 00:01:18,143 This was just the beginning. 33 00:01:18,145 --> 00:01:20,179 ...when we uncover if it's safe for you to stay... 34 00:01:20,181 --> 00:01:21,580 Oh, my God. 35 00:01:21,582 --> 00:01:23,715 ...or time to get out. 36 00:01:23,717 --> 00:01:25,651 They're very bad. 37 00:01:25,653 --> 00:01:28,020 This house is going to kill me. 38 00:01:40,234 --> 00:01:42,568 I'm in the small town of Applegate, California, 39 00:01:42,570 --> 00:01:44,436 about an hour north of Sacramento. 40 00:01:44,438 --> 00:01:45,904 I got a call from a desperate woman 41 00:01:45,906 --> 00:01:47,706 who just beat lung cancer 42 00:01:47,708 --> 00:01:50,576 but doesn't think she can survive her own home. 43 00:01:50,578 --> 00:01:52,411 She says, unless Amy and I can help her out, 44 00:01:52,413 --> 00:01:54,279 she doesn't think she's gonna make it. 45 00:02:02,089 --> 00:02:06,892 Before Amy arrives, I clear the area of any leading information. 46 00:02:06,894 --> 00:02:10,162 Personal items, family photographs, 47 00:02:10,164 --> 00:02:13,832 and even dream catchers have to be covered or removed. 48 00:02:13,834 --> 00:02:16,702 When I'm finished, the location 49 00:02:16,704 --> 00:02:18,537 will be ready for tonight's walk. 50 00:02:28,949 --> 00:02:31,150 Oh, boy. 51 00:02:31,152 --> 00:02:35,721 I see this, like, super tall guy with, like, red eyes, 52 00:02:35,723 --> 00:02:37,756 and he's standing in the shadows. 53 00:02:39,994 --> 00:02:41,360 All of a sudden, two little, like, 54 00:02:41,362 --> 00:02:46,465 gargoyles with red eyes run out from him. 55 00:02:46,467 --> 00:02:48,100 They're pretty close to the ground. 56 00:02:48,102 --> 00:02:50,903 They're about this tall but with super long arms. 57 00:02:50,905 --> 00:02:53,172 They have, like, no hair on them, 58 00:02:53,174 --> 00:02:57,309 and I'm gonna say there's a lot of issues with this land. 59 00:02:57,311 --> 00:02:58,744 It's not good. 60 00:03:07,188 --> 00:03:08,754 You know, Heidi, one of the reasons 61 00:03:08,756 --> 00:03:10,289 that I took this case is you told me, 62 00:03:10,291 --> 00:03:12,925 after beating cancer, 63 00:03:12,927 --> 00:03:14,293 you feel like you're fighting for your life 64 00:03:14,295 --> 00:03:16,128 all over again. Is it really that bad? 65 00:03:16,130 --> 00:03:18,363 It's really bad. 66 00:03:18,365 --> 00:03:19,398 I'm scared. 67 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:20,899 That's insane. 68 00:03:20,901 --> 00:03:22,034 It is insane. 69 00:03:22,036 --> 00:03:24,703 So, how long you been living in the house? 70 00:03:24,705 --> 00:03:25,938 It's my sister's house. 71 00:03:25,940 --> 00:03:28,640 I've been living here for about 31/2 years, 72 00:03:28,642 --> 00:03:31,443 and then I lived here before in the late '90s. 73 00:03:31,445 --> 00:03:33,545 Did you have activity then? 74 00:03:33,547 --> 00:03:35,113 Yes, it was horrendous. 75 00:03:35,115 --> 00:03:36,648 Why'd you come back? 76 00:03:36,650 --> 00:03:40,052 With cancer, it financially tore me apart. 77 00:03:42,823 --> 00:03:44,423 So, you beat the most treacherous thing 78 00:03:44,425 --> 00:03:47,492 anybody can go through -- is cancer. 79 00:03:47,494 --> 00:03:52,097 Yeah. And my daughter had an emotional breakdown. 80 00:03:52,099 --> 00:03:57,769 They won't stop, and I am very angry. 81 00:03:57,771 --> 00:04:01,006 That's why we needed you here to help us. 82 00:04:01,008 --> 00:04:04,543 It seems it's a lot worse than I thought originally. 83 00:04:04,545 --> 00:04:06,345 Well, who actually lives in the house now? 84 00:04:09,583 --> 00:04:12,417 That's me, of course. Right. 85 00:04:12,419 --> 00:04:15,187 That's my sister, Petra, who owns the house. 86 00:04:15,189 --> 00:04:17,589 That's my daughter, Sasha, who's 22. 87 00:04:17,591 --> 00:04:19,191 Okay. 88 00:04:19,193 --> 00:04:21,560 And that is Ciara, who's 15. Okay. 89 00:04:21,562 --> 00:04:24,196 All of us are lashing out at one another. 90 00:04:24,198 --> 00:04:27,766 The negativity, you feel it when you walk in this house. 91 00:04:27,768 --> 00:04:30,936 It feels like something you can cut with a knife. 92 00:04:30,938 --> 00:04:33,438 So, Heidi, give me a rundown of what's going on in the house. 93 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:36,742 Noises, the apparitions, they rush you. 94 00:04:36,744 --> 00:04:41,713 They charge you, and being pushed, shoved, pinching. 95 00:04:41,715 --> 00:04:45,784 Is anybody getting more harassment, I should say, 96 00:04:45,786 --> 00:04:48,086 from the paranormal here than anybody else? 97 00:04:48,088 --> 00:04:50,289 Me and Sasha. 98 00:04:50,291 --> 00:04:53,692 She feels like she can't leave the house. 99 00:04:53,694 --> 00:04:55,794 She can't function. 100 00:04:55,796 --> 00:04:57,562 She's scared to death. 101 00:04:57,564 --> 00:04:59,564 I am mama bear to my girls, 102 00:04:59,566 --> 00:05:01,867 and I protected them all their lives so far, 103 00:05:01,869 --> 00:05:03,935 and I will continue to do so. 104 00:05:03,937 --> 00:05:06,772 I'm just trying to keep it together for my children 105 00:05:06,774 --> 00:05:08,440 because they need me, 106 00:05:08,442 --> 00:05:10,976 and I can't give up, and I won't give up. 107 00:05:10,978 --> 00:05:12,177 I'm glad I took this case. 108 00:05:12,179 --> 00:05:14,713 It's heartbreaking to hear you talk. 109 00:05:14,715 --> 00:05:17,316 I want it to stop now. 110 00:05:17,318 --> 00:05:19,451 I want them out of here. 111 00:05:19,453 --> 00:05:21,386 So, what do you think is here? 112 00:05:21,388 --> 00:05:22,621 I'm not sure, but I know 113 00:05:22,623 --> 00:05:24,923 there's something very evil in this house. 114 00:05:29,530 --> 00:05:33,932 Okay. 115 00:05:33,934 --> 00:05:41,206 I don't know why, but my grandfather is very freaked out. 116 00:05:41,208 --> 00:05:44,142 My grandfather is one of my guides, 117 00:05:44,144 --> 00:05:51,583 and he tags along usually when it might be a little funky. 118 00:05:51,585 --> 00:05:58,857 Ooh, it must be not good here, at least for sensitives. 119 00:05:58,859 --> 00:06:04,262 I'm assuming that there would be some kind of physical threat 120 00:06:04,264 --> 00:06:07,232 that he's extremely worried about. 121 00:06:15,743 --> 00:06:18,210 Okay, so, what's going on out here? 122 00:06:18,212 --> 00:06:19,978 You know, sometimes, I come out here in the morning 123 00:06:19,980 --> 00:06:22,280 when I have to go to work, and there's growling. 124 00:06:22,282 --> 00:06:24,483 Not for nothing, but we're in the middle of the woods. 125 00:06:24,485 --> 00:06:26,418 What kind of growling are we talking about? 126 00:06:26,420 --> 00:06:28,353 Growling that I've never heard before. 127 00:06:28,355 --> 00:06:29,554 It's not distinctive. 128 00:06:29,556 --> 00:06:31,590 It doesn't sound like a coyote, a wolf. 129 00:06:31,592 --> 00:06:32,758 Now, is there any way 130 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:34,593 you could describe what that sounds like? 131 00:06:38,298 --> 00:06:41,266 A sound that goes into a growl 132 00:06:41,268 --> 00:06:43,769 and then almost sounds like a human at the end, 133 00:06:43,771 --> 00:06:46,004 something in agony. 134 00:06:46,006 --> 00:06:47,239 Now, have you ever had the house 135 00:06:47,241 --> 00:06:49,174 checked for rodents or anything like that? 136 00:06:49,176 --> 00:06:51,910 No. Okay, anything else? 137 00:06:51,912 --> 00:06:54,479 I keep getting rushed by shadows. 138 00:06:54,481 --> 00:06:55,781 What do you mean by rushed? 139 00:06:55,783 --> 00:06:59,050 They run at you, and they run through you. 140 00:06:59,052 --> 00:07:00,852 And how does that feel when it goes through you? 141 00:07:00,854 --> 00:07:03,555 You get nauseated, feel like you want to vomit. 142 00:07:03,557 --> 00:07:06,658 It feels like a cold force just went through you. 143 00:07:06,660 --> 00:07:08,193 Okay, what else is going on? 144 00:07:08,195 --> 00:07:11,296 I had an occasion where I was getting ready for work. 145 00:07:11,298 --> 00:07:13,865 I went out the door, went down the steps, 146 00:07:13,867 --> 00:07:17,068 immediately got shoved, and my knees were cut up, 147 00:07:17,070 --> 00:07:20,405 and I was bleeding, and I was crying. 148 00:07:20,407 --> 00:07:22,207 Can you feel actual hands on you or -- 149 00:07:22,209 --> 00:07:26,411 Yes. Okay, demonstrate on me how hard you got shoved. 150 00:07:26,413 --> 00:07:27,979 Okay, so, you got a nice jolt. 151 00:07:27,981 --> 00:07:30,782 Oh, yeah. It just felt like boom. 152 00:07:30,784 --> 00:07:33,251 So, this is... pretty serious. 153 00:07:33,253 --> 00:07:34,586 Pretty serious -- very. 154 00:07:34,588 --> 00:07:37,489 Because even a short fall can cause major damage 155 00:07:37,491 --> 00:07:39,491 or even kill you, and I've seen it. 156 00:07:39,493 --> 00:07:40,892 They try to hurt me. 157 00:07:43,931 --> 00:07:46,498 The little gargoyle-y things, 158 00:07:46,500 --> 00:07:47,699 one of the things they like to do 159 00:07:47,701 --> 00:07:49,234 is, like, tripping people, 160 00:07:49,236 --> 00:07:50,635 also scaring people, 161 00:07:50,637 --> 00:07:54,172 like, jumping out of dark spaces. 162 00:07:54,174 --> 00:07:55,140 And I think they're outside. 163 00:07:55,142 --> 00:07:57,309 I think they're inside. 164 00:07:57,311 --> 00:07:59,478 And it's almost like they're jumping out of closets, 165 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:02,380 and people are freaking out. 166 00:08:02,382 --> 00:08:07,085 Those little gargoyle thingies, I feel like they come 167 00:08:07,087 --> 00:08:09,087 and go in this room in particular. 168 00:08:09,089 --> 00:08:10,255 I don't know why. 169 00:08:10,257 --> 00:08:12,290 How do these things interact with the living? 170 00:08:12,292 --> 00:08:14,860 They can, like, trip people. 171 00:08:14,862 --> 00:08:17,262 They rush them. 172 00:08:17,264 --> 00:08:20,765 I don't like this room at all. 173 00:08:29,276 --> 00:08:31,109 So, Heidi, this is like a dorm room. 174 00:08:31,111 --> 00:08:32,677 I've never seen a setup like this. 175 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:34,679 I mean, there's three beds in here. What gives? 176 00:08:34,681 --> 00:08:40,352 This is the way we choose to live to keep my children safe. 177 00:08:40,354 --> 00:08:42,921 It keeps them feeling better that Mom's right here. 178 00:08:42,923 --> 00:08:45,524 All right, so, what's going on in here? 179 00:08:45,526 --> 00:08:48,860 I actually get scratched, and I'm in bed, 180 00:08:48,862 --> 00:08:52,731 and you'll feel someone just scratch me. 181 00:08:52,733 --> 00:08:53,965 Cats? 182 00:08:53,967 --> 00:08:56,801 No. The scratching, it feels like human hands, 183 00:08:56,803 --> 00:08:58,370 like, just marks going down. 184 00:08:58,372 --> 00:08:59,538 It sure sounds like something 185 00:08:59,540 --> 00:09:00,639 doesn't want you to get some sleep. 186 00:09:00,641 --> 00:09:02,240 Exactly. "Let's keep bothering her. 187 00:09:02,242 --> 00:09:03,875 Let's keep harassing her." 188 00:09:03,877 --> 00:09:05,510 Okay, anything else? 189 00:09:05,512 --> 00:09:10,849 I see black spirits all along the walls here 190 00:09:10,851 --> 00:09:12,551 where they just stare at you. 191 00:09:12,553 --> 00:09:13,718 So, like a shadow person? 192 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:15,921 Just like a shadow person, yes. 193 00:09:15,923 --> 00:09:19,090 They just stand and look at us, no expression. 194 00:09:19,092 --> 00:09:20,325 That's no way to live. 195 00:09:20,327 --> 00:09:21,927 No, it's not. 196 00:09:21,929 --> 00:09:24,629 We would like to see this house be a home again. 197 00:09:24,631 --> 00:09:26,665 Why are they here? What do they want? 198 00:09:26,667 --> 00:09:28,567 Why are they hurting us? 199 00:09:28,569 --> 00:09:31,269 It's the house. 200 00:09:31,271 --> 00:09:32,671 It's what's in the house. 201 00:09:35,776 --> 00:09:37,776 So, the little gargoyles, they're, like, 202 00:09:37,778 --> 00:09:39,144 coming and going in here, coming and going, 203 00:09:39,146 --> 00:09:40,512 coming and going. They like it. 204 00:09:40,514 --> 00:09:42,380 Do you know why they're attracted to this room? 205 00:09:42,382 --> 00:09:45,050 They're attracted to negative energy, bad energy. 206 00:09:45,052 --> 00:09:46,685 They like it. They love it. 207 00:09:46,687 --> 00:09:48,954 Terrible! 208 00:09:51,191 --> 00:09:53,358 I'm gonna say that there was a murder, 209 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:54,960 and I'm gonna say that I think 210 00:09:54,962 --> 00:09:59,297 that these things would like it if another one happened. 211 00:09:59,299 --> 00:10:00,832 I'm hearing murder. 212 00:10:00,834 --> 00:10:02,867 I'm just hearing murder. 213 00:10:22,022 --> 00:10:23,588 All right, Ciara, how old are you? 214 00:10:23,590 --> 00:10:25,357 15. 215 00:10:25,359 --> 00:10:29,527 Now, your mother mentioned about being at each other's throats. 216 00:10:29,529 --> 00:10:31,162 Yeah. What's going on? 217 00:10:31,164 --> 00:10:34,399 We have been, like, so mean towards each other 218 00:10:34,401 --> 00:10:37,402 that we would normally not act towards each other. 219 00:10:37,404 --> 00:10:38,737 Everything's heightened. 220 00:10:38,739 --> 00:10:42,240 Everything is so just, like, evil, I feel like. 221 00:10:42,242 --> 00:10:43,575 You think it's because of the stress, 222 00:10:43,577 --> 00:10:44,776 or you think it's whatever's here's 223 00:10:44,778 --> 00:10:45,877 influencing you guys? 224 00:10:45,879 --> 00:10:48,113 Whatever here is influencing us. 225 00:10:48,115 --> 00:10:50,348 As far as experiences go, have you had any? 226 00:10:50,350 --> 00:10:51,816 Several. Okay. 227 00:10:51,818 --> 00:10:53,618 A couple weeks ago, I woke up, 228 00:10:53,620 --> 00:10:55,687 and there was a bruise on my arm. 229 00:10:55,689 --> 00:10:59,991 I had no idea where it came from, and it hurt really bad. 230 00:10:59,993 --> 00:11:02,694 Now, this is a pretty precise location on your arm. 231 00:11:02,696 --> 00:11:05,463 Did you bang it on anything maybe while you were sleeping? 232 00:11:05,465 --> 00:11:07,399 Not that I remember. 233 00:11:07,401 --> 00:11:08,400 Okay, anything else? 234 00:11:08,402 --> 00:11:10,669 When we first moved in, every night, 235 00:11:10,671 --> 00:11:12,971 a shadow with red eyes would be staring at me 236 00:11:12,973 --> 00:11:14,506 as I fell asleep. 237 00:11:14,508 --> 00:11:16,274 Now, did you see this outside, or was it in the room? 238 00:11:16,276 --> 00:11:18,576 It was outside the window. 239 00:11:18,578 --> 00:11:19,978 Did it have a shape? 240 00:11:19,980 --> 00:11:23,048 It was just a mist with just red eyes 241 00:11:23,050 --> 00:11:24,215 just staring at me. 242 00:11:24,217 --> 00:11:25,383 I was just so scared 243 00:11:25,385 --> 00:11:27,852 it would come attack me or something. 244 00:11:27,854 --> 00:11:29,554 How would you feel about leaving? 245 00:11:29,556 --> 00:11:32,257 Personally, I would like to leave. 246 00:11:32,259 --> 00:11:34,092 This house has traumatized me. 247 00:11:37,230 --> 00:11:40,765 That tall guy with the red guys who the gargoyles run out of, 248 00:11:40,767 --> 00:11:42,634 I think people see him. 249 00:11:42,636 --> 00:11:44,769 Can you describe what they see? 250 00:11:44,771 --> 00:11:47,072 I think, to them, it looks more like a ball, 251 00:11:47,074 --> 00:11:48,773 like a black ball. 252 00:11:48,775 --> 00:11:50,975 I feel like they see the red eyes. 253 00:11:50,977 --> 00:11:54,379 One of them scales the tree. 254 00:11:54,381 --> 00:11:56,715 He's watching. He's interested. 255 00:12:02,422 --> 00:12:04,389 Now, Sasha, how old are you? 256 00:12:04,391 --> 00:12:06,658 I'm 22. You're 22. 257 00:12:06,660 --> 00:12:07,959 But you're living in a room with your mom 258 00:12:07,961 --> 00:12:10,428 and your younger sister. Yeah. 259 00:12:10,430 --> 00:12:11,362 Not cool, right? 260 00:12:11,364 --> 00:12:13,565 No, it's not. 261 00:12:13,567 --> 00:12:15,600 Mom mentioned you're having some issues emotionally -- 262 00:12:15,602 --> 00:12:18,536 depression, stuff like that. Yeah. 263 00:12:18,538 --> 00:12:20,538 Do you think it's because of what's going on in the house? 264 00:12:20,540 --> 00:12:23,074 I feel like the house is making it worse. 265 00:12:23,076 --> 00:12:26,478 Everyone's been more...tense 266 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:30,081 and at each other's throats lately. 267 00:12:30,083 --> 00:12:32,383 Can you tell me about some experiences you had? 268 00:12:32,385 --> 00:12:36,588 I was downstairs taking a shower, 269 00:12:36,590 --> 00:12:39,924 and I hear this voice in my head 270 00:12:39,926 --> 00:12:42,293 in some language I've never heard before, 271 00:12:42,295 --> 00:12:45,063 and it's just chanting. 272 00:12:45,065 --> 00:12:48,333 The next thing I remember was waking up in my mom's arms 273 00:12:48,335 --> 00:12:49,801 outside of the shower. 274 00:12:49,803 --> 00:12:53,004 She said that I had started speaking 275 00:12:53,006 --> 00:12:55,940 in a very strange language that she had never heard, 276 00:12:55,942 --> 00:12:57,575 which I had assumed was the language 277 00:12:57,577 --> 00:13:00,178 that I was hearing in my head. Okay. 278 00:13:00,180 --> 00:13:03,214 And she said that I charged out of the bathtub 279 00:13:03,216 --> 00:13:05,250 and tried to choke her. 280 00:13:07,420 --> 00:13:09,788 What do you think happened? 281 00:13:09,790 --> 00:13:11,122 I don't know. 282 00:13:11,124 --> 00:13:13,057 How do you explain something like that? 283 00:13:13,059 --> 00:13:15,593 Okay, anything else? 284 00:13:15,595 --> 00:13:17,228 Well, this was my bed, 285 00:13:17,230 --> 00:13:19,464 so I'd wake up in the middle of the night, 286 00:13:19,466 --> 00:13:22,867 and I'd just see the shadow man standing over me. 287 00:13:22,869 --> 00:13:24,536 How often has this happened? 288 00:13:24,538 --> 00:13:27,105 At very least, once a week, 289 00:13:27,107 --> 00:13:29,674 but I always feel his presence there. 290 00:13:29,676 --> 00:13:35,213 I feel like he wants to hurt me. 291 00:13:35,215 --> 00:13:38,550 I feel like I'm in danger. 292 00:13:38,552 --> 00:13:39,951 Okay, anything else? 293 00:13:39,953 --> 00:13:45,356 At night, my bed gets shoved so hard that it wakes me up. 294 00:13:45,358 --> 00:13:48,993 Okay, can you show me how hard that shake is? 295 00:13:48,995 --> 00:13:50,228 Yeah. 296 00:13:53,633 --> 00:13:55,233 Okay, so, if you're sleeping, 297 00:13:55,235 --> 00:13:57,168 you're getting up from that. Yeah. 298 00:13:57,170 --> 00:13:59,437 All right. 299 00:13:59,439 --> 00:14:02,073 What would you like to see happen, sweetie? 300 00:14:02,075 --> 00:14:05,243 If I had it my way, I'd be gone, and I'd never look back. 301 00:14:05,245 --> 00:14:09,214 It's kind of hard to remain in some place 302 00:14:09,216 --> 00:14:11,182 that's hurt you so much. 303 00:14:17,657 --> 00:14:19,157 Ugh. 304 00:14:19,159 --> 00:14:21,159 I don't know what the [bleep] is going on in here, 305 00:14:21,161 --> 00:14:23,328 but it is not good. 306 00:14:25,699 --> 00:14:27,732 So, the little gargoyles, they're, like, 307 00:14:27,734 --> 00:14:31,236 jumping all over the place. They're laughing. 308 00:14:31,238 --> 00:14:35,773 I mean, they absolutely love it. 309 00:14:35,775 --> 00:14:38,209 I mean, they're jumping up and down on the beds, 310 00:14:38,211 --> 00:14:40,478 and I'm gonna say that I do think 311 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:43,615 that the living are pretty damn well aware of these things. 312 00:14:43,617 --> 00:14:44,983 I think they're feeling, you know, 313 00:14:44,985 --> 00:14:46,784 they're definitely feeling the [bleep] pressure 314 00:14:46,786 --> 00:14:50,421 on the bed and [bleep] Yeah. 315 00:14:50,423 --> 00:14:52,390 They're [bleep] with the living. 316 00:14:52,392 --> 00:14:54,292 Do you know what these are? 317 00:14:54,294 --> 00:14:56,594 I don't know yet. They were never alive. 318 00:14:56,596 --> 00:14:57,662 I don't know if they're tricksters 319 00:14:57,664 --> 00:14:58,997 or some kind of demon. 320 00:15:04,804 --> 00:15:06,871 This is your house. Mm-hmm. 321 00:15:06,873 --> 00:15:08,907 Now, your sister moved in about 31/2 years ago, 322 00:15:08,909 --> 00:15:10,341 and you did the right thing. 323 00:15:10,343 --> 00:15:11,342 You made her come in 324 00:15:11,344 --> 00:15:12,610 when she was going through a tough time. 325 00:15:12,612 --> 00:15:13,645 You got to be worried about her. 326 00:15:13,647 --> 00:15:15,246 Very worried. 327 00:15:15,248 --> 00:15:17,015 As far as experiences go, have you had any? 328 00:15:17,017 --> 00:15:19,784 Yes. I felt someone actually grab my ankle 329 00:15:19,786 --> 00:15:21,853 and just jerk my foot down. 330 00:15:21,855 --> 00:15:23,388 So, now are you sure this wasn't some kind of 331 00:15:23,390 --> 00:15:25,290 a sleep paralysis thing? 332 00:15:25,292 --> 00:15:26,658 I'm sure it wasn't. 333 00:15:26,660 --> 00:15:30,395 It has never happened before and never happened again. 334 00:15:30,397 --> 00:15:32,931 You sound like you're really tense about it 335 00:15:32,933 --> 00:15:34,132 right now talking about it. 336 00:15:34,134 --> 00:15:35,900 Yeah, it was very scary. 337 00:15:35,902 --> 00:15:39,570 My heart was pounding for, I'm sure, hours after that. 338 00:15:39,572 --> 00:15:42,407 I don't think I would have -- I think I would have ran. 339 00:15:42,409 --> 00:15:44,075 Okay. Did anything else happen? 340 00:15:44,077 --> 00:15:46,577 Yes. I had one other experience 341 00:15:46,579 --> 00:15:48,413 that was just the worst one, you know. 342 00:15:48,415 --> 00:15:49,480 What happened? 343 00:15:49,482 --> 00:15:51,282 I was basically pinned down in bed. 344 00:15:51,284 --> 00:15:53,584 I felt like there were two hands on my shoulders 345 00:15:53,586 --> 00:15:56,621 literally holding me down in bed, 346 00:15:56,623 --> 00:15:58,790 and I woke up gasping. 347 00:15:58,792 --> 00:16:00,425 What'd you do? 348 00:16:00,427 --> 00:16:02,460 I started to call out. 349 00:16:02,462 --> 00:16:06,130 I told it to leave me alone, and I was always told, you know, 350 00:16:06,132 --> 00:16:08,566 "Say, 'In the name of Jesus Christ, leave me,'" 351 00:16:08,568 --> 00:16:10,501 you know, things like that because it was -- 352 00:16:10,503 --> 00:16:11,736 I don't know how long it was. 353 00:16:11,738 --> 00:16:14,105 And finally, I just feel it lift like it 354 00:16:14,107 --> 00:16:16,774 just took its hands off me and left me alone. 355 00:16:16,776 --> 00:16:18,843 Okay. 356 00:16:18,845 --> 00:16:21,813 It's okay. You all right? 357 00:16:21,815 --> 00:16:23,281 Come here. I'm okay. Thanks. 358 00:16:23,283 --> 00:16:24,582 Aww, I'm sorry. 359 00:16:24,584 --> 00:16:26,417 It's okay. 360 00:16:30,557 --> 00:16:34,125 This person, I feel, is, like, a sensitive. 361 00:16:34,127 --> 00:16:36,394 Something's trying to talk to her. 362 00:16:36,396 --> 00:16:39,530 She's getting physically injured. 363 00:16:43,303 --> 00:16:46,471 So, I'm seeing there's, like, a woman in here. 364 00:16:46,473 --> 00:16:48,106 Is this the person you were describing 365 00:16:48,108 --> 00:16:49,707 in the bedroom as a sensitive? 366 00:16:49,709 --> 00:16:50,842 I think so. 367 00:16:50,844 --> 00:16:53,478 I'm getting frustration, frustrations. 368 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:58,616 Stuff is moving, something with pots and pans. 369 00:16:58,618 --> 00:17:02,787 I think this living woman with abilities is creating a P.K. 370 00:17:02,789 --> 00:17:05,857 P.K. manifestations are extremely powerful 371 00:17:05,859 --> 00:17:08,860 because they can cause things to move on their own. 372 00:17:08,862 --> 00:17:10,828 So, is it just the pots and pans? 373 00:17:10,830 --> 00:17:13,431 No! Mnh-mnh. 374 00:17:13,433 --> 00:17:16,067 She has issues with herself. 375 00:17:16,069 --> 00:17:18,903 She has some kind of guilt complex. 376 00:17:18,905 --> 00:17:20,438 She thinks that somebody's, like, 377 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:24,242 hitting her or strangling her, but actually, 378 00:17:24,244 --> 00:17:27,011 she is manifesting enough energy into, 379 00:17:27,013 --> 00:17:31,582 like, a physical manifestation and then attacking herself. 380 00:17:31,584 --> 00:17:34,519 It's pretty advanced. 381 00:17:34,521 --> 00:17:35,953 I don't like it in here. 382 00:17:35,955 --> 00:17:37,622 It's terrible! Terrible! 383 00:17:51,604 --> 00:17:53,805 Amy and I have done investigations up here before, 384 00:17:53,807 --> 00:17:55,640 so my first call was to an old friend, 385 00:17:55,642 --> 00:17:58,009 Chris Enss, an historical author. 386 00:17:58,011 --> 00:17:59,844 Now, she did some digging for me, 387 00:17:59,846 --> 00:18:01,746 and it turns out one of the very first owners 388 00:18:01,748 --> 00:18:04,315 of the property was involved in an epic family feud 389 00:18:04,317 --> 00:18:06,184 I'm definitely going to want to know about. 390 00:18:12,258 --> 00:18:13,624 So, Chris, it's good to see you again. 391 00:18:13,626 --> 00:18:16,427 Before we get to this big family feud, who are the players? 392 00:18:16,429 --> 00:18:19,764 The players in this situation are Jefferson Wilcoxson 393 00:18:19,766 --> 00:18:21,499 and his brother, Jackson, 394 00:18:21,501 --> 00:18:26,471 and here's a picture of Jefferson here. 395 00:18:26,473 --> 00:18:29,273 In 1849, the brothers left Missouri 396 00:18:29,275 --> 00:18:31,843 and came out west looking for gold. 397 00:18:31,845 --> 00:18:34,312 The brothers did not find gold, 398 00:18:34,314 --> 00:18:37,715 but they made a fortune selling supplies 399 00:18:37,717 --> 00:18:42,453 to the other 49ers, and they made a lot of money. 400 00:18:42,455 --> 00:18:44,322 How did they wind up on my client's property? 401 00:18:44,324 --> 00:18:47,859 Jackson had a lot of property, and when he passed away, 402 00:18:47,861 --> 00:18:51,395 he willed the property to Jefferson, 403 00:18:51,397 --> 00:18:52,964 and so that's how Jefferson 404 00:18:52,966 --> 00:18:56,868 is now in charge of that land. 405 00:18:56,870 --> 00:18:59,470 So, Chris, is this land transfer part of the feud? 406 00:18:59,472 --> 00:19:03,508 No, it involves Jefferson and his niece, Amanda. 407 00:19:03,510 --> 00:19:05,243 Right. So, how'd she wind up in the picture? 408 00:19:05,245 --> 00:19:07,278 Well, Jefferson is sick, and he needs someone 409 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:10,915 to take care of him, so he does send for his niece. 410 00:19:10,917 --> 00:19:12,950 She's quick to come west. 411 00:19:12,952 --> 00:19:14,585 How old is Amanda at this point? 412 00:19:14,587 --> 00:19:16,254 She's 19 years old. 413 00:19:16,256 --> 00:19:22,093 For the next 20 years, she gives up her life to devote to him. 414 00:19:22,095 --> 00:19:25,997 She bathes him. She takes care of his finances. 415 00:19:25,999 --> 00:19:28,466 She promises even not to marry. 416 00:19:28,468 --> 00:19:32,770 He promises that he's going to be giving her $150,000 417 00:19:32,772 --> 00:19:35,206 when he passes away. 418 00:19:35,208 --> 00:19:36,774 When did things go bad? 419 00:19:36,776 --> 00:19:41,512 When Jefferson dies, he has left a lot of funds 420 00:19:41,514 --> 00:19:45,816 to his family members, but nothing to Amanda. 421 00:19:45,818 --> 00:19:47,251 Well, Chris, it sounds like she got screwed. 422 00:19:47,253 --> 00:19:49,420 Did she contest the will at all? What happened? 423 00:19:49,422 --> 00:19:55,026 She does. She hires attorneys to go in and fight this will. 424 00:19:55,028 --> 00:19:57,261 So, she went to trial. How did it go? 425 00:19:57,263 --> 00:20:03,334 What they give her is $18,000, which they estimate is her worth 426 00:20:03,336 --> 00:20:06,304 for all of those years of taking care of her uncle. 427 00:20:06,306 --> 00:20:07,939 Sounds like she gave up her life for him 428 00:20:07,941 --> 00:20:09,740 and got practically nothing in return. 429 00:20:09,742 --> 00:20:13,044 Well, yes, she had suitors who wanted to marry her, 430 00:20:13,046 --> 00:20:15,246 and she had to call it off. 431 00:20:15,248 --> 00:20:18,583 She gave up men that might have been the people 432 00:20:18,585 --> 00:20:20,484 that loved her for the rest of her life. 433 00:20:25,592 --> 00:20:29,126 So, the little gargoyles are pissing off the living, 434 00:20:29,128 --> 00:20:31,429 and the living are getting pissed at one another. 435 00:20:31,431 --> 00:20:33,965 What they're doing to the living is, like, irritating them. 436 00:20:33,967 --> 00:20:36,934 The gargoyle-y things really want the living 437 00:20:36,936 --> 00:20:39,337 to turn on one another. 438 00:20:39,339 --> 00:20:42,473 They appreciate when horrible things happen, 439 00:20:42,475 --> 00:20:45,509 and if they can nudge it along, 440 00:20:45,511 --> 00:20:48,145 it's what's causing a lot of the agitation. 441 00:20:48,147 --> 00:20:49,213 Do you have any idea 442 00:20:49,215 --> 00:20:50,881 how long these things have been here? 443 00:20:50,883 --> 00:20:53,384 Forever. Is it just this house? 444 00:20:53,386 --> 00:20:55,953 No. Where else? 445 00:20:55,955 --> 00:21:00,791 Oh, around, you know, pretty far, yeah. 446 00:21:00,793 --> 00:21:02,493 I think that they like it, you know, 447 00:21:02,495 --> 00:21:04,095 when murders and [bleep] happen. 448 00:21:08,034 --> 00:21:09,333 Everyone in the house is complaining 449 00:21:09,335 --> 00:21:11,035 about growling and footsteps. 450 00:21:11,037 --> 00:21:13,437 Of course, they're convinced it's paranormal. 451 00:21:13,439 --> 00:21:16,274 Call me crazy. It could just be rodents. 452 00:21:16,276 --> 00:21:17,475 I'm driving up to the house now 453 00:21:17,477 --> 00:21:19,076 to meet with a pest-control expert 454 00:21:19,078 --> 00:21:21,178 who's gonna give the place a complete once-over. 455 00:21:28,421 --> 00:21:29,553 All right, guys, so, this is the deal, 456 00:21:29,555 --> 00:21:30,788 why I called you out here. 457 00:21:30,790 --> 00:21:32,256 My clients that live in this house are complaining 458 00:21:32,258 --> 00:21:36,193 about growling and noises and knocks and stuff like that. 459 00:21:36,195 --> 00:21:38,496 Call me nutty, but we're out in the middle of the woods here, 460 00:21:38,498 --> 00:21:39,497 so I'm thinking it could be 461 00:21:39,499 --> 00:21:41,265 some kind of a rodent or an animal. 462 00:21:41,267 --> 00:21:42,767 You guys get anything like that out here? 463 00:21:42,769 --> 00:21:44,101 Yeah, definitely. 464 00:21:44,103 --> 00:21:46,337 Banging noises and stuff could be a rodent. Okay. 465 00:21:46,339 --> 00:21:47,872 Could be a large rat running around. 466 00:21:47,874 --> 00:21:50,074 All right, so, do me a favor -- Go in there, 467 00:21:50,076 --> 00:21:51,409 do the best you can, the entire house, 468 00:21:51,411 --> 00:21:52,677 and let me know what you find. 469 00:21:52,679 --> 00:21:54,645 All right, sounds good. 470 00:21:54,647 --> 00:21:57,748 With all the bizarre sounds Heidi and her family 471 00:21:57,750 --> 00:22:02,286 are hearing, I know I have to rule out the obvious first, 472 00:22:02,288 --> 00:22:05,189 and if there isn't a physical explanation, 473 00:22:05,191 --> 00:22:08,326 our only hopes for answers will have to come from Amy. 474 00:22:08,328 --> 00:22:09,660 Okay, guys, so, how'd it go? 475 00:22:09,662 --> 00:22:11,929 My inspection on the lower basement area down there, 476 00:22:11,931 --> 00:22:13,531 all I found was a light infestation of mice. 477 00:22:13,533 --> 00:22:14,965 Mice. All right. 478 00:22:14,967 --> 00:22:17,168 Could that cause those noises they're hearing? No. 479 00:22:17,170 --> 00:22:18,502 All right, so, nothing you guys found 480 00:22:18,504 --> 00:22:19,870 would cause any kind of sound 481 00:22:19,872 --> 00:22:22,673 that would sound like growling, scratching, knocking? 482 00:22:22,675 --> 00:22:23,874 No. 483 00:22:23,876 --> 00:22:24,909 All right, so, I know the problem's 484 00:22:24,911 --> 00:22:27,011 not nature and their surroundings. 485 00:22:27,013 --> 00:22:29,413 Correct. 486 00:22:29,415 --> 00:22:34,485 So, the little gargoyles, I hear them down here playing. 487 00:22:34,487 --> 00:22:36,921 The living are pretty freaked out. 488 00:22:36,923 --> 00:22:39,757 Whoever stays in here probably hearing those 489 00:22:39,759 --> 00:22:42,393 little guys causing a ruckus. 490 00:22:45,264 --> 00:22:47,131 They're talking, but it's not a language 491 00:22:47,133 --> 00:22:49,967 that anybody would understand. 492 00:22:49,969 --> 00:22:52,636 Need to go. Need to go. 493 00:22:52,638 --> 00:22:54,705 I hate this place. Hate it. 494 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:02,680 If you need us to investigate 495 00:23:02,682 --> 00:23:04,315 unexplained activity in your home, 496 00:23:04,317 --> 00:23:07,151 go to the "Dead Files" page at travelchannel.com. 497 00:23:07,153 --> 00:23:09,553 Click on "Help me, Dead Files!" to submit your story, 498 00:23:09,555 --> 00:23:10,121 and we'll help if we can. 499 00:23:18,030 --> 00:23:21,599 So far, I've got a family under attack on a property 500 00:23:21,601 --> 00:23:23,667 where a nasty family feud took place, 501 00:23:23,669 --> 00:23:25,302 but I want to see if there's anything else 502 00:23:25,304 --> 00:23:27,405 that could help my investigation. 503 00:23:27,407 --> 00:23:30,775 Searching through old records, I find an unsolved murder 504 00:23:30,777 --> 00:23:33,010 that took place in 1973. 505 00:23:33,012 --> 00:23:34,612 Turns out the homicide happened 506 00:23:34,614 --> 00:23:37,882 right next to my client's property. 507 00:23:37,884 --> 00:23:40,518 Now, this case is still open, so the local cops 508 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:42,086 don't want to talk to me about this murder. 509 00:23:42,088 --> 00:23:43,621 But I've managed to track down a P.I. 510 00:23:43,623 --> 00:23:45,823 who says the victim belonged to a strange cult 511 00:23:45,825 --> 00:23:46,957 and that they set up shop 512 00:23:46,959 --> 00:23:48,759 right next to Heidi and Petra's house. 513 00:23:56,102 --> 00:23:57,968 Well, Larry, thanks for meeting me. 514 00:23:57,970 --> 00:23:59,503 I really appreciate that. 515 00:23:59,505 --> 00:24:01,205 Before we get to the unsolved homicide, 516 00:24:01,207 --> 00:24:02,606 what's the story with this cult? 517 00:24:02,608 --> 00:24:05,576 It was called the Esoteric Fraternity. 518 00:24:05,578 --> 00:24:07,812 The cult originally started in New York. 519 00:24:07,814 --> 00:24:11,081 The founder was a guy, a Civil War veteran 520 00:24:11,083 --> 00:24:14,418 and an author named Hiram Butler. 521 00:24:14,420 --> 00:24:17,188 Mr. Butler wrote a book in the late 1880s 522 00:24:17,190 --> 00:24:18,989 called "Solar Biology." 523 00:24:18,991 --> 00:24:22,293 "Solar Biology" ended up being the bible, if you would, 524 00:24:22,295 --> 00:24:23,694 for the fraternity. 525 00:24:23,696 --> 00:24:28,466 It spouts immortality through celibacy. 526 00:24:28,468 --> 00:24:30,201 All right, so, people bought into this crap? 527 00:24:30,203 --> 00:24:33,471 They did, and this drew the ire of the authorities 528 00:24:33,473 --> 00:24:35,539 in both New York and Boston, 529 00:24:35,541 --> 00:24:38,709 and I have an article here from the Boston Herald. 530 00:24:38,711 --> 00:24:40,110 Why'd they go after him? 531 00:24:40,112 --> 00:24:44,114 Mr. Butler purified the women members of the fraternity 532 00:24:44,116 --> 00:24:45,516 by having sex with them, 533 00:24:45,518 --> 00:24:46,817 and that didn't set too well. 534 00:24:46,819 --> 00:24:48,118 Okay. 535 00:24:48,120 --> 00:24:50,588 So, this guy was full of [bleep], basically. Right. 536 00:24:50,590 --> 00:24:51,822 How or when does he wind up 537 00:24:51,824 --> 00:24:53,257 right next to my client's property? 538 00:24:53,259 --> 00:24:57,061 Records indicate that, in 1891, he purchased the 500 acres 539 00:24:57,063 --> 00:24:58,829 next to your client's property. 540 00:24:58,831 --> 00:25:00,531 He built a four-story building, 541 00:25:00,533 --> 00:25:02,900 and he called it the Esoteric College. 542 00:25:02,902 --> 00:25:04,735 So, how long does this guy, Butler, stick around? 543 00:25:04,737 --> 00:25:08,305 He stayed on the property until 1916. 544 00:25:08,307 --> 00:25:11,175 At the time of his death, he was 75. 545 00:25:11,177 --> 00:25:14,111 By all accounts, his followers were quite disappointed 546 00:25:14,113 --> 00:25:16,547 that he did not achieve immortality. 547 00:25:16,549 --> 00:25:20,084 Right. So much for that. 548 00:25:20,086 --> 00:25:22,319 There's a bad man out here. 549 00:25:22,321 --> 00:25:23,487 Mnh. Mnh. 550 00:25:23,489 --> 00:25:25,856 I don't like it over there. Mnh-mnh. Mnh-mnh. 551 00:25:25,858 --> 00:25:30,561 No. No. 552 00:25:30,563 --> 00:25:32,663 I'm repulsed. 553 00:25:32,665 --> 00:25:34,765 I feel like my stomach drops in here. 554 00:25:34,767 --> 00:25:39,837 There's a lot of domestic violence in here. 555 00:25:39,839 --> 00:25:42,306 I'm feeling panic and fear. 556 00:25:42,308 --> 00:25:44,775 Got to calm it down. Got to calm it down. 557 00:25:44,777 --> 00:25:47,711 Panic. 558 00:25:47,713 --> 00:25:50,581 So, Larry, I know the homicide happened back in '73, 559 00:25:50,583 --> 00:25:52,550 and the cult was still going on back then, correct? 560 00:25:52,552 --> 00:25:54,552 Yes, it was. The cult was still there, 561 00:25:54,554 --> 00:25:56,453 although there were only four members left. 562 00:25:56,455 --> 00:25:57,922 Okay, so, what do we know about the victim? 563 00:25:57,924 --> 00:25:59,857 Victim's name was Matthew Bosek. 564 00:25:59,859 --> 00:26:01,125 He was a Russian immigrant. 565 00:26:01,127 --> 00:26:03,160 He was said to be a mild-mannered man. 566 00:26:03,162 --> 00:26:04,828 He had lived on the property 567 00:26:04,830 --> 00:26:07,531 and been a member of the cult for over 50 years. 568 00:26:07,533 --> 00:26:09,333 Well, how's the circumstances of his death? What happened? 569 00:26:09,335 --> 00:26:12,002 Well, on the night of August 2nd, 1973, 570 00:26:12,004 --> 00:26:14,338 they found Mr. Bosek in the fetal position 571 00:26:14,340 --> 00:26:17,341 laying on his right side in a pool of blood. 572 00:26:17,343 --> 00:26:21,145 He had three shots in the back and one in the back of the head. 573 00:26:21,147 --> 00:26:23,814 So, it sounds like we got a execution-style homicide. 574 00:26:23,816 --> 00:26:25,716 Certainly fits common idea 575 00:26:25,718 --> 00:26:27,518 of an execution-style killing, yes. 576 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:29,687 All right, was there any indication of a robbery? 577 00:26:29,689 --> 00:26:30,988 None. 578 00:26:30,990 --> 00:26:33,624 Okay, so, there's only three people left on this property. 579 00:26:33,626 --> 00:26:35,125 I assume the cops talked to them. 580 00:26:35,127 --> 00:26:36,961 They did interview the people as well 581 00:26:36,963 --> 00:26:39,597 as some of the adjacent property owners. 582 00:26:39,599 --> 00:26:41,165 Nobody came up with anything. 583 00:26:41,167 --> 00:26:43,200 And it's still open to this day. It is. 584 00:26:43,202 --> 00:26:45,302 It seems like somebody got away with murder. 585 00:26:48,941 --> 00:26:53,644 I'm seeing two men, and I'm seeing the word murder. 586 00:26:53,646 --> 00:26:55,646 I'm seeing, like, a red t-shirt. 587 00:26:55,648 --> 00:26:57,648 So, this may be 1980s. 588 00:26:57,650 --> 00:27:01,285 So, I'm getting two men, but then I'm hearing a female. 589 00:27:01,287 --> 00:27:03,354 Maybe there's, like, some kind of domestic [bleep] 590 00:27:03,356 --> 00:27:04,822 going on here. 591 00:27:04,824 --> 00:27:09,827 I'm hearing a -- I think it's a shotgun. 592 00:27:09,829 --> 00:27:11,862 I'm hearing, like, an explosion. 593 00:27:11,864 --> 00:27:15,466 Feel like I'm being hit, and, like, the head pain from -- 594 00:27:15,468 --> 00:27:18,435 Dude, major head trauma going on. 595 00:27:25,678 --> 00:27:28,112 I saw several disturbing things on my walk, 596 00:27:28,114 --> 00:27:30,948 but the gargoyles terrorizing the living 597 00:27:30,950 --> 00:27:33,283 have me the most concerned. 598 00:27:33,285 --> 00:27:37,655 These things are on the bed. 599 00:27:37,657 --> 00:27:40,124 To me, they looked frightening. 600 00:27:40,126 --> 00:27:42,893 They had red eyes, and they were, like, 601 00:27:42,895 --> 00:27:44,695 very, very dark. 602 00:27:50,803 --> 00:27:53,804 Amy, is this what you saw? 603 00:27:53,806 --> 00:27:55,205 Yes. 604 00:28:14,927 --> 00:28:17,695 Now that Amy and I have completed our investigations, 605 00:28:17,697 --> 00:28:19,930 we're ready to reveal our findings to each other 606 00:28:19,932 --> 00:28:23,033 and our clients for the first time. 607 00:28:23,035 --> 00:28:24,868 So, Amy, I want you to meet Heidi, 608 00:28:24,870 --> 00:28:28,806 this is her sister, Petra, and Heidi's daughter, Sasha. 609 00:28:28,808 --> 00:28:31,942 They all live here with Heidi's other daughter, Ciara, 610 00:28:31,944 --> 00:28:34,378 - who's about 15. - Yes. 611 00:28:34,380 --> 00:28:35,779 Now, here's the deal. 612 00:28:35,781 --> 00:28:38,615 Heidi's already had a brush with death once. 613 00:28:38,617 --> 00:28:40,918 She beat lung cancer, but now she feels 614 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:42,453 she's in a fight for her life again 615 00:28:42,455 --> 00:28:44,488 by whatever's in this house. 616 00:28:44,490 --> 00:28:47,458 All three of these ladies are terrified, and they feel 617 00:28:47,460 --> 00:28:49,693 if you can't come up with a solution for them, 618 00:28:49,695 --> 00:28:52,162 somebody's gonna get seriously hurt. 619 00:28:52,164 --> 00:28:53,997 Now that Amy knows a little bit about you guys, 620 00:28:53,999 --> 00:28:55,799 I'm gonna ask her to describe her walk. 621 00:28:59,071 --> 00:29:03,207 When I arrived here, I got that there's something wrong 622 00:29:03,209 --> 00:29:05,409 with this land and this neighborhood. 623 00:29:05,411 --> 00:29:10,948 Then when I got inside, I see the word murder. 624 00:29:10,950 --> 00:29:14,485 And I saw two men and a woman, 625 00:29:14,487 --> 00:29:18,555 and then I heard the blast of a shotgun. 626 00:29:18,557 --> 00:29:23,227 And I got something wrong with my head and my eyes, 627 00:29:23,229 --> 00:29:26,897 and I got that it was part of some kind of domestic dispute. 628 00:29:26,899 --> 00:29:30,434 And it seemed, like, recent, like 1980s. 629 00:29:30,436 --> 00:29:34,371 This is a small town, and the only documented murder 630 00:29:34,373 --> 00:29:36,740 within that time frame you're talking about happened 631 00:29:36,742 --> 00:29:39,710 actually right next door in 1973. 632 00:29:39,712 --> 00:29:42,346 Now, from the 1890s all the way through the 1970s, 633 00:29:42,348 --> 00:29:44,448 there was a cult that owned 500 acres 634 00:29:44,450 --> 00:29:48,152 right next door to your property called the Esoteric Fraternity. 635 00:29:48,154 --> 00:29:51,388 By the 1970s, there was only four members left. 636 00:29:51,390 --> 00:29:53,357 Now, one of them was a 79-year-old 637 00:29:53,359 --> 00:29:55,793 Russian immigrant named Matthew Bosek. 638 00:29:55,795 --> 00:29:59,997 August 2nd, 1973, he's working on his vegetable garden. 639 00:29:59,999 --> 00:30:02,099 All of a sudden, four shots rung out. 640 00:30:02,101 --> 00:30:03,200 Three hit him in the back. 641 00:30:03,202 --> 00:30:05,369 One caught him in the back of the head. 642 00:30:05,371 --> 00:30:07,871 the guy was hit execution style from what I can tell. 643 00:30:07,873 --> 00:30:10,507 I think it was one of the other three cult members. 644 00:30:10,509 --> 00:30:14,545 Yeah. Seemed like they knew each other, for sure. 645 00:30:14,547 --> 00:30:16,046 They knew each other. 646 00:30:16,048 --> 00:30:18,148 Cops interviewed them, but nothing came of it. 647 00:30:18,150 --> 00:30:20,651 Case is still open to this day. 648 00:30:24,423 --> 00:30:26,323 When I went into the bedroom upstairs, 649 00:30:26,325 --> 00:30:29,326 and it's the one with just the one bed in it, 650 00:30:29,328 --> 00:30:34,198 I got that the individual in there was a sensitive 651 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,868 and that the dead were trying desperately 652 00:30:37,870 --> 00:30:40,604 to communicate to that person. 653 00:30:40,606 --> 00:30:42,239 Then I walked into the kitchen, 654 00:30:42,241 --> 00:30:46,210 and then I saw this person preparing dinner. 655 00:30:46,212 --> 00:30:49,913 There were pots and pans clanging or moving, 656 00:30:49,915 --> 00:30:51,882 and then I realized that this person 657 00:30:51,884 --> 00:30:53,817 had created a P.K. entity. 658 00:30:53,819 --> 00:30:56,353 This one is very advanced and unusual, 659 00:30:56,355 --> 00:30:58,488 because not only is it moving objects, 660 00:30:58,490 --> 00:31:01,425 it's also attacking the person who created it. 661 00:31:01,427 --> 00:31:04,228 I got that this person has an enormous amount of guilt 662 00:31:04,230 --> 00:31:07,130 and that a lot of things that would be happening 663 00:31:07,132 --> 00:31:12,970 would be more projected onto herself. 664 00:31:12,972 --> 00:31:16,106 I'm just really surprised, I have to admit. 665 00:31:19,178 --> 00:31:20,711 You know, I always thought that Heidi was 666 00:31:20,713 --> 00:31:22,112 more of a sensitive. 667 00:31:22,114 --> 00:31:25,382 I would never guessed that you would be talking about me. 668 00:31:25,384 --> 00:31:27,150 She's felt very guilty about a lot, 669 00:31:27,152 --> 00:31:28,652 and I've told her she needs to let it go. 670 00:31:28,654 --> 00:31:30,821 She's held a lot in. 671 00:31:30,823 --> 00:31:33,891 I wasn't really there when my mom passed away, 672 00:31:33,893 --> 00:31:36,393 and that was probably the biggest guilt. 673 00:31:36,395 --> 00:31:40,163 Typically, people with that ability are the people 674 00:31:40,165 --> 00:31:42,099 who take on everything, 675 00:31:42,101 --> 00:31:45,802 take care of everybody else, repress, repress, repress. 676 00:31:45,804 --> 00:31:47,638 You just described me. That's her. 677 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,974 And then -- Bam. That's her to a "T." 678 00:31:50,976 --> 00:31:54,111 Amy says you turned this PK thing against yourself. 679 00:31:54,113 --> 00:31:56,113 I want to go through some of the things you've been experiencing 680 00:31:56,115 --> 00:31:58,548 like the time you were grabbed in bed. 681 00:31:58,550 --> 00:32:00,350 I was just ready to fall asleep, 682 00:32:00,352 --> 00:32:01,752 and I had just rolled over in bed 683 00:32:01,754 --> 00:32:04,154 and felt a hand wrap around my ankle 684 00:32:04,156 --> 00:32:05,756 and just jerk me. 685 00:32:05,758 --> 00:32:07,858 But you were also pinned. 686 00:32:07,860 --> 00:32:11,561 Right. I was in the house alone, and I woke up just feeling 687 00:32:11,563 --> 00:32:13,897 these two hands on my shoulder, 688 00:32:13,899 --> 00:32:16,300 you know, just holding me to the bed. 689 00:32:16,302 --> 00:32:18,669 That was my worst experience. 690 00:32:18,671 --> 00:32:21,371 Now, is that the P.K. doing that to her? 691 00:32:21,373 --> 00:32:22,639 I think so, yeah. 692 00:32:22,641 --> 00:32:24,207 So, it sounds like you're haunting yourself. 693 00:32:24,209 --> 00:32:26,176 Does sound like that, doesn't it? 694 00:32:31,150 --> 00:32:32,416 So, what else? 695 00:32:32,418 --> 00:32:37,187 So, during my walk, I saw these two beings, 696 00:32:37,189 --> 00:32:40,057 and to me, they looked like gargoyles. 697 00:32:40,059 --> 00:32:41,692 They're extremely bad. 698 00:32:41,694 --> 00:32:43,493 They're not just in the house. 699 00:32:43,495 --> 00:32:46,196 They definitely go around the neighborhood. 700 00:32:46,198 --> 00:32:48,198 They're attracted to negativity. 701 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,334 That's what they thrive and feed on. 702 00:32:50,336 --> 00:32:52,869 One of their favorite areas is in this house, 703 00:32:52,871 --> 00:32:56,873 and it's in the larger back bedroom. 704 00:32:56,875 --> 00:32:58,809 I think it has three beds in it. 705 00:32:58,811 --> 00:33:02,279 Right, so, that's where Heidi, Sasha, and Ciara sleep. 706 00:33:02,281 --> 00:33:05,916 Okay, they love it in there -- love it. 707 00:33:05,918 --> 00:33:11,555 Their motivation is to pit the living against one another. 708 00:33:11,557 --> 00:33:13,924 That's what they do. 709 00:33:13,926 --> 00:33:15,192 And that's what's been happening. 710 00:33:15,194 --> 00:33:18,195 Yeah. Yeah. 711 00:33:18,197 --> 00:33:21,131 We are argue for no reason. 712 00:33:21,133 --> 00:33:24,201 We'll get in fights over the simplest thing, 713 00:33:24,203 --> 00:33:25,302 and that's not us. 714 00:33:25,304 --> 00:33:27,504 We're a very tight, close family, 715 00:33:27,506 --> 00:33:30,207 and also with Sasha's breakdown. 716 00:33:30,209 --> 00:33:32,676 Sasha, do me a favor in telling me, if you can, 717 00:33:32,678 --> 00:33:37,647 about your depression and what you're going through? 718 00:33:37,649 --> 00:33:41,518 I had a mental breakdown last year. 719 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:43,720 I feel like I'm losing my mind. 720 00:33:45,824 --> 00:33:48,692 I can't function outside. 721 00:33:48,694 --> 00:33:51,361 I feel like something's holding me here. 722 00:33:51,363 --> 00:33:53,430 Was there a trigger? 723 00:33:53,432 --> 00:33:57,300 My entire childhood, I was abused. 724 00:33:57,302 --> 00:34:00,704 I've been holding that in my entire life. 725 00:34:00,706 --> 00:34:01,972 I never talked about it. 726 00:34:01,974 --> 00:34:04,074 I never cried about it. 727 00:34:04,076 --> 00:34:08,979 I held it in, and I tried my hardest to ignore it. 728 00:34:08,981 --> 00:34:10,347 And I feel like this house 729 00:34:10,349 --> 00:34:13,617 is just holding me back from healing. 730 00:34:15,888 --> 00:34:17,788 Now, Amy, there is a history of people turning 731 00:34:17,790 --> 00:34:19,623 against each other on this property. 732 00:34:19,625 --> 00:34:21,425 One of the original owners of your property 733 00:34:21,427 --> 00:34:25,462 was a guy named Jefferson Wilcoxson. 734 00:34:25,464 --> 00:34:27,397 This guy was pretty well off, 735 00:34:27,399 --> 00:34:29,199 and he owned this property back in the 1880s. 736 00:34:29,201 --> 00:34:32,536 By all accounts, he was a great guy when he moved here, 737 00:34:32,538 --> 00:34:35,739 but the day he set foot on this land, all that changed. 738 00:34:35,741 --> 00:34:38,642 He convinced a young niece of his named Amanda 739 00:34:38,644 --> 00:34:40,477 to move in and take care of him. 740 00:34:40,479 --> 00:34:44,247 I do have a picture of Amanda. 741 00:34:44,249 --> 00:34:46,483 Now, when Amanda came 742 00:34:46,485 --> 00:34:48,652 and started taking care of her uncle, 743 00:34:48,654 --> 00:34:52,989 she did everything a maid would do and more 744 00:34:52,991 --> 00:34:54,458 because she knew, at the end of it, 745 00:34:54,460 --> 00:34:57,594 when he died, she would be a big part of his will. 746 00:34:57,596 --> 00:35:00,063 And this went on for 20 years. Wow. 747 00:35:00,065 --> 00:35:04,401 Well, the old man finally keels over and drops dead, right? 748 00:35:04,403 --> 00:35:06,103 She got nothing. 749 00:35:06,105 --> 00:35:08,038 So, Amanda sued the estate, 750 00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:11,475 but she barely got any money out of the courts. 751 00:35:11,477 --> 00:35:13,276 Now, these gargoyle things, 752 00:35:13,278 --> 00:35:15,545 could they have influenced these people? 753 00:35:15,547 --> 00:35:18,381 Yes. Yes. 754 00:35:18,383 --> 00:35:20,317 This house is evil. 755 00:35:20,319 --> 00:35:22,352 I know without a shadow of a doubt. 756 00:35:22,354 --> 00:35:24,421 Did these things do anything else 757 00:35:24,423 --> 00:35:26,456 besides pit people against each other? 758 00:35:26,458 --> 00:35:28,992 Yes, they make loud noises. 759 00:35:28,994 --> 00:35:33,130 I heard them laughing, grunting. 760 00:35:33,132 --> 00:35:34,431 Heidi, do me a favor. 761 00:35:34,433 --> 00:35:36,366 Describe the growling thing to me. 762 00:35:36,368 --> 00:35:38,835 It's a weird growling -- like, this low growl, 763 00:35:38,837 --> 00:35:41,338 and then it almost turns human at the end. 764 00:35:41,340 --> 00:35:43,807 Now, because they were experiencing 765 00:35:43,809 --> 00:35:45,275 all these noises and growling, 766 00:35:45,277 --> 00:35:48,612 I brought in a pest-control expert to see 767 00:35:48,614 --> 00:35:50,213 if that was the problem. 768 00:35:50,215 --> 00:35:52,916 The only thing they found were very small mice droppings 769 00:35:52,918 --> 00:35:56,052 but nothing that would cause these kind of noises. 770 00:35:56,054 --> 00:35:58,688 The other thing I saw them was jumping up and down on the beds, 771 00:35:58,690 --> 00:36:00,857 especially in the room where the three beds are. 772 00:36:00,859 --> 00:36:02,692 They love that. 773 00:36:02,694 --> 00:36:04,828 At very least once a week, 774 00:36:04,830 --> 00:36:07,264 my bed gets shoved so hard 775 00:36:07,266 --> 00:36:10,200 that I am awoken at night, 776 00:36:10,202 --> 00:36:11,902 and we're not talking a little shove. 777 00:36:11,904 --> 00:36:14,504 It's a big, big shove. 778 00:36:14,506 --> 00:36:15,739 Wow. 779 00:36:15,741 --> 00:36:18,308 Also, they do like to trick people. 780 00:36:18,310 --> 00:36:21,545 I think the living would feel them rushing by. 781 00:36:21,547 --> 00:36:24,414 There's, like, a wind, you know? 782 00:36:24,416 --> 00:36:27,851 That must be the things that are rushing me 783 00:36:27,853 --> 00:36:29,386 and trying to go right through me 784 00:36:29,388 --> 00:36:32,689 and trying to scare me, and it works. 785 00:36:32,691 --> 00:36:34,357 I'm scared. 786 00:36:34,359 --> 00:36:36,326 It's very horrible. 787 00:36:36,328 --> 00:36:37,894 It's mean. 788 00:36:37,896 --> 00:36:39,429 Yeah, they are mean. 789 00:36:39,431 --> 00:36:40,797 Heidi, do me a favor. 790 00:36:40,799 --> 00:36:42,666 Talk about getting shoved down the stairs. 791 00:36:42,668 --> 00:36:44,301 I had to go to work one morning. 792 00:36:44,303 --> 00:36:47,537 I walk out the patio door, and I get hit from behind, 793 00:36:47,539 --> 00:36:52,542 and I fall down three steps onto the concrete. 794 00:36:52,544 --> 00:36:56,179 And would that be these things also? 795 00:36:56,181 --> 00:36:58,481 Oh, yeah. 796 00:36:58,483 --> 00:37:02,752 I did have an artist do a sketch of one of the situations 797 00:37:02,754 --> 00:37:06,756 that I saw with that back bedroom area. 798 00:37:11,763 --> 00:37:14,097 Oh, you're not going to want to see this. 799 00:37:20,973 --> 00:37:22,539 Oh, hell, no. 800 00:37:28,580 --> 00:37:32,949 These little [bleep] need to go. I want them gone. 801 00:37:32,951 --> 00:37:34,651 When we first moved in, 802 00:37:34,653 --> 00:37:37,754 Ciara would see a shadow outside the window 803 00:37:37,756 --> 00:37:40,924 with glowing red eyes, and she could never fall asleep. 804 00:37:40,926 --> 00:37:43,293 She'd turn over and try her hardest to fall asleep, 805 00:37:43,295 --> 00:37:45,362 but the red eyes were always there. 806 00:37:45,364 --> 00:37:47,030 Now, not only your sister, 807 00:37:47,032 --> 00:37:49,566 but you saw a shadow figure by your bed. 808 00:37:49,568 --> 00:37:52,168 Yeah. 809 00:37:52,170 --> 00:37:58,375 He stands right next to my bed, and I see shadow. 810 00:37:58,377 --> 00:38:01,411 I see his frame. I'm scared. 811 00:38:01,413 --> 00:38:03,680 I'm very scared of him. 812 00:38:03,682 --> 00:38:05,749 What the hell are they, and what do they want? 813 00:38:05,751 --> 00:38:08,318 The little guys are what I call 814 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,488 the lowest level demon that you could encounter -- 815 00:38:11,490 --> 00:38:13,690 obviously, very evil. 816 00:38:13,692 --> 00:38:15,859 They've always been in this area. 817 00:38:15,861 --> 00:38:19,396 They like when horrible things happen. 818 00:38:19,398 --> 00:38:23,700 That's something that I think would be their ultimate goal 819 00:38:23,702 --> 00:38:26,970 is to create people killing other people. 820 00:38:30,142 --> 00:38:31,941 We've been feeling that. 821 00:38:31,943 --> 00:38:33,710 I'd rather be homeless than live here. 822 00:38:37,349 --> 00:38:39,482 I want to know how we kill them. 823 00:38:57,069 --> 00:38:59,135 You know, Heidi, after fighting and beating lung cancer, 824 00:38:59,137 --> 00:39:01,738 you deserve some peace in your life, 825 00:39:01,740 --> 00:39:04,908 and it pisses me off that you ended up in a house with demons. 826 00:39:04,910 --> 00:39:06,609 Look, I don't know what Amy's gonna say, 827 00:39:06,611 --> 00:39:08,611 but I personally hope you can find a way 828 00:39:08,613 --> 00:39:10,580 to kick these little rat bastards out of here 829 00:39:10,582 --> 00:39:12,649 so you and your family can live in peace. 830 00:39:15,454 --> 00:39:19,222 So, the first thing that I would like to see you guys do 831 00:39:19,224 --> 00:39:23,426 is take buckets of salt water and big sponges, 832 00:39:23,428 --> 00:39:25,895 and you are going to wash every surface 833 00:39:25,897 --> 00:39:30,133 that you can with this saltwater solution. 834 00:39:30,135 --> 00:39:34,404 The second thing you're going to do is take sage, 835 00:39:34,406 --> 00:39:36,806 and you're going to go to every single room 836 00:39:36,808 --> 00:39:41,211 with this to every single doorway, 837 00:39:41,213 --> 00:39:45,482 and you're gonna seal it with the sage. 838 00:39:45,484 --> 00:39:47,083 How often they got to do that? 839 00:39:47,085 --> 00:39:51,054 You're going to need to cleanse once a month. 840 00:39:51,056 --> 00:39:52,422 You guys won't have a problem with that? 841 00:39:52,424 --> 00:39:54,090 No. 842 00:39:54,092 --> 00:39:59,462 For the property line, you need to go on a rock hunt. 843 00:39:59,464 --> 00:40:02,065 Just pick up rocks that call to you. 844 00:40:02,067 --> 00:40:08,037 When you start building your fence, so to speak, 845 00:40:08,039 --> 00:40:10,073 you'll take one rock at a time, 846 00:40:10,075 --> 00:40:12,575 place it on the earth and say, 847 00:40:12,577 --> 00:40:17,313 "Thank you, Earth, for providing this protection for us forever." 848 00:40:17,315 --> 00:40:19,015 So, what is that gonna do? 849 00:40:19,017 --> 00:40:21,985 It's going to place a protective barrier, 850 00:40:21,987 --> 00:40:27,757 and it's gonna keep these demons outside of the barrier. 851 00:40:27,759 --> 00:40:34,531 For you, I would like you to find a certified EMDR therapist. 852 00:40:34,533 --> 00:40:37,267 I'm not familiar with EMDR. What exactly is that? 853 00:40:37,269 --> 00:40:42,439 So, basically, it's a form of intensive therapy for people 854 00:40:42,441 --> 00:40:47,710 who have PTSD, are stuck in grief, guilt. 855 00:40:47,712 --> 00:40:49,712 This will help with your P.K. 856 00:40:49,714 --> 00:40:51,214 Okay. 857 00:40:51,216 --> 00:40:53,516 So, the big question I have is 858 00:40:53,518 --> 00:40:55,385 if they do this huge laundry list you got, 859 00:40:55,387 --> 00:40:58,388 which it sounds like it's doable, 860 00:40:58,390 --> 00:41:01,291 will they start feeling better? Will they stop fighting? 861 00:41:01,293 --> 00:41:02,826 Oh, yeah, it's gonna be 862 00:41:02,828 --> 00:41:07,263 pretty dramatic change, actually. Yeah. 863 00:41:07,265 --> 00:41:10,467 I'm just happy that there is something that we can do. 864 00:41:10,469 --> 00:41:12,469 If it's something that needs to get done, 865 00:41:12,471 --> 00:41:13,970 then I'm willing to help, 866 00:41:13,972 --> 00:41:16,105 but ultimately I would like to get out. 867 00:41:16,107 --> 00:41:19,209 There's too many bad memories here. 868 00:41:19,211 --> 00:41:22,045 I will not go down without a fight, 869 00:41:22,047 --> 00:41:25,515 and I'm willing to fight and hard. 870 00:41:25,517 --> 00:41:29,452 They're not gonna destroy my family anymore. 871 00:41:29,454 --> 00:41:32,555 I can't imagine the pain this family's going through, 872 00:41:32,557 --> 00:41:34,958 being tormented by demons, dead people, 873 00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:36,926 and a P.K. manifestation, 874 00:41:36,928 --> 00:41:40,864 but with EMDR therapy, Petra can weaken the P.K., 875 00:41:40,866 --> 00:41:43,533 and a barrier will protect them from the demons, 876 00:41:43,535 --> 00:41:46,836 allowing them to lead a safe and peaceful life. 877 00:41:46,886 --> 00:41:51,436 Repair and Synchronization by Easy Subtitles Synchronizer 1.0.0.0 67413

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