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There were people
who died out here.
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Chaos is happening,
lots of fighting going on.
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I don't think anyone
should have to be afraid.
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And I am.
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People are afraid of her.
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I don't want anything
to hurt my baby.
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I just feel fear, fear, fear.
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This is driving me insane.
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This seems like a possession.
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My name is Amy Allan.
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Everything was built on blood.
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I see dead people.
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Very disturbing.
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I speak to dead people.
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There's victims around him.
Ow.
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And they speak to me.
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Her voice sounds like death.
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But there's only one way
to know if my findings are real.
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The living don't
stand a chance here.
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I rely on my partner.
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I'm Steve Di Schiavi.
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I'm a retired New York City
homicide detective.
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You could have
got killed.
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And I know every person,
every house has secrets.
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This is coming
straight from Hell.
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It's my job to reveal them.
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Your mom was murdered
right here in this room?
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Yes, she was.
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But Steve and I never speak...
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We never communicate
during an investigation.
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...until the very end...
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This was
just the beginning.
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...when we uncover
if it's safe for you to stay...
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Oh, my God.
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...or time to get out.
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They're very bad.
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This house
is going to kill me.
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I'm in the small town
of Dumfries, Virginia,
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just 25 miles south of D.C.
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I got a call
from a desperate lady
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who says the town's
historic museum
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she works at has become
a paranormal war zone.
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People are seeing
all sorts of crazy things
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and getting physically attacked.
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She says, if we can't help her,
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someone's gonna
get seriously hurt.
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Before Amy arrives,
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I clear the area
of any leading information.
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This museum has a lot
of historic items,
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photographs and religious icons
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that have to be
covered or removed.
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When I'm done, the location
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will be ready
for tonight's walk.
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The dead here are upset about
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some of the structural
and land changes.
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Trying to let their anger,
like, go.
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'Cause I don't want to
fixate on that.
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And it's, like...
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I'm seeing, uh,
this big graveyard.
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And then I see this house.
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And it's inside the graveyard.
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That is so weird.
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Unless there's been a ton
of deaths here, I don't know.
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It doesn't make any sense.
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When we spoke on the phone,
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you sounded, um, scared,
for lack of a better word.
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What's --
what's going on here?
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This place, um,
is a dream job for me.
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But my hopes here
are getting dashed,
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because the amount of
the paranormal activity here
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has been downright
frightening.
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You've got to be afraid
to come to work every day.
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Sometimes,
I have to admit,
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I'll pull into
the parking space.
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And I will hesitate
when I get out of my car.
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So why don't you just leave?
It's a job, right?
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I love this place.
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It would be heartbreaking.
I don't want to give it up.
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When I drove up,
I saw the two buildings here.
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Yes. The building
we're in right now
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is the annex building.
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The house on the corner
is the actual museum house.
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And that was constructed
back in the 1700s.
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Both, um, buildings
on the property,
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there's restoration efforts
going on year-round.
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What are you guys
experiencing?
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Footsteps, voices,
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dark shadows
moving through the room,
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doors opening, closing.
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It's been,
um, getting physical.
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Been on tours
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and we have had guests
who have been touched,
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uh, their clothes
pulled on,
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things of that nature.
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Now, what kind of tours
do you do here?
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We do a historic tour.
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And, in October,
we do haunted tours.
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- Oh.
- Mm-hmm.
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That could be a problem.
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There are some people
who come here specifically
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for that, you know,
want to investigate.
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So what are you hoping
we can do for you?
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My dearest wish
is not to leave here.
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I don't think anyone
should have to be afraid.
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And I am.
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There's a male here.
He's apparently inside.
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And he says, "Hi!
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Welcome! I'm Uncle Bob!"
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Uh, he's a big guy.
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Uh, I think
he was an owner.
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Any interaction
with the living?
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Uh, he goes, "I talk
to them all the time."
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He even says people
have taken pictures of him.
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He doesn't...care
for certain aesthetics
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that are here.
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The way he expresses
his dislike,
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uh, is by pounding
on the ceilings,
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messing with the light
fixtures and the lights.
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Living people will
physically hear
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and see this phenomena
happening.
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Okay, Erica.
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So tell me what's
going on in here.
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To begin with, we hear footsteps
happen all during the day.
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Uh, sometimes it sounds
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like just one man
walking in heavy boots.
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Sometimes
it sounds like
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there's a whole troop
of men.
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When you hear that,
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do you go upstairs at all
to investigate?
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Absolutely not.
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Okay.
There anything else?
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I've seen
a full-bodied apparition.
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He came in through
our side door,
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walked down our hallway
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and disappeared
into our kitchen.
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Okay.
Anything else?
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- Well, I had my hair pulled.
- So what happened?
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Well, I was touring
some guests.
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And I felt fingers slide up
the back of my head.
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And then I felt
those fingers tighten.
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And then my hair was yanked.
- Okay.
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The obvious question
I'm gonna ask,
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"Was anybody behind you?"
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There was no one
behind me.
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That was probably the most
disturbing thing about it.
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I think there's some maybe
little negative things
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that he does to the living.
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But he knows that, at times,
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people misinterpret his touch.
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Uncle Bob doesn't know
how they see him.
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Ugh.
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He's, like, telling me that
any other dead people
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are just simply not important.
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This is driving me insane.
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I feel like he's trying
to cover something up.
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He's saying,
"I'm the king of this castle."
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And he's, like, smothering me.
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So, Erica, why'd you take me
out here to the park?
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Because one of my more
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horrifying experiences
happened here.
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I saw, uh,
a shadow figure.
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Okay,
describe it to me.
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I saw a shape that had to have
been at least 7 foot tall.
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It was humanoid in that
it had two arms and two legs.
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But the way it moved
wasn't like a human.
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And, as it moved away,
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its legs elongated
like a spider.
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It was the strangest thing
I've ever seen in my life
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and absolutely terrifying.
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It scared me to death.
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Now, have you ever seen anything
that looked like that again?
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Not quite like that.
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I do see shadow figures
out here, but not as tall.
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I see them often,
along our fence line.
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You know this
is not normal, right?
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Oh, I'm well aware
of that.
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I love this place.
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And I don't want
to leave it.
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There's a lot of men,
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uh, moving about,
uh, working.
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And I'm feeling like there
were people who died out here.
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So how would it
affect the living?
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I think, you know,
they might hear things.
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They might see, like, men.
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I just feel awful, though.
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Mmm.
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Very sick, sick
and dizzy and, like,
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I think that living people
would not feel good out there.
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I just feel sick.
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Uhh.
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So, Joann, how long have you
been the director here?
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- Eight years.
- Eight years.
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- Yes.
- Now, from what I understand,
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we're lucky that you're even
talking with me right now.
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Is that right?
- That's correct.
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- What happened?
- I ended up in the hospital.
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I was basically told that
I was on the verge of dying.
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- You're kidding me.
- No.
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Okay. So the doctors know
what happened to you?
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No.
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Okay.
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I'm seeing five men.
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There's a woman walking
around bringing drinks.
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These men are
drinking, arguing.
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Chaos is happening.
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Ooh, ooh, lots
of fighting going on.
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What they're doing
is not right.
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Uh, so it's thick.
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And it just zaps you,
just zaps you.
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So how would it
affect the living?
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It would make them very,
very tired, very tired.
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And it could affect
their potassium level,
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which is not good,
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which could bring
on heart issues.
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Do you have
any experiences
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that you can share
with me?
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I've had my son literally
be thrown down the stairs.
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- The stairs here?
- Yes.
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Now, did your son
get hurt?
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No, luckily not.
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Did you see it happen?
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Three other people
saw it happen.
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So he's lucky he's okay.
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You got to be concerned
that one of your patrons
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might fall down
a flight of stairs.
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- Yes, very much so.
- Okay.
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So is there anything
else going on here?
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Well, I've seen and heard
an old man in here.
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He's in older, uh, clothing.
- Okay.
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Uh, and he looks like
he's from the 1700s.
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I've seen him move books.
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What are you hoping we can
do now that we're here now?
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Anything to keep us safe,
that is the main thing.
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Okay.
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There's a man in here
who's just crying.
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I think that people
would hear a man crying and,
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like, screaming and yelling.
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If people were around him a lot,
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uh, they would experience
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a great amount of depression.
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I think that he, uh,
might interact
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with the living often, uh,
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because he doesn't
know he's dead.
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It's possible that
they might see an app--
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apparition with him.
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Because he's so --
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he is pretty damn solid.
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He's super, like, physical.
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So, Natalie, I understand
that you work here.
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- Mm-hmm.
- Okay. Uh, what do you do?
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I'm a volunteer.
I do tours.
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Okay. So how do you
like working here?
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It's gotten intense
with the spirits and stuff.
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I'm very uncomfortable.
I'm also pregnant, too.
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00:13:04,293 --> 00:13:06,727
And I'm very protective
of my baby.
256
00:13:06,729 --> 00:13:09,229
I don't want anything
to hurt my baby.
257
00:13:09,231 --> 00:13:10,597
Okay.
258
00:13:10,599 --> 00:13:12,432
Tell me about some experiences
you've had in here.
259
00:13:12,434 --> 00:13:14,334
I saw a floating head
of a slave.
260
00:13:14,336 --> 00:13:16,269
A what?
261
00:13:16,271 --> 00:13:18,171
It was, like,
just a floating face.
262
00:13:18,173 --> 00:13:19,439
And it just...Boom!
263
00:13:19,441 --> 00:13:21,174
It was, like, really fast.
264
00:13:21,176 --> 00:13:23,076
It scared me to death.
265
00:13:23,078 --> 00:13:25,412
You doing anything that
may make you hallucinate,
266
00:13:25,414 --> 00:13:27,681
seeing floating heads?
- No.
267
00:13:27,683 --> 00:13:29,015
Okay, so anything else?
268
00:13:29,017 --> 00:13:30,917
Yes. I was
in the annex building.
269
00:13:30,919 --> 00:13:33,320
And I felt pressure
on my chest.
270
00:13:33,322 --> 00:13:35,689
It was really intense
to the point
271
00:13:35,691 --> 00:13:37,057
where I couldn't breathe,
272
00:13:37,059 --> 00:13:39,292
like I was having
a heart attack, practically.
273
00:13:39,294 --> 00:13:41,728
I could feel pressure.
I could feel it was a man.
274
00:13:41,730 --> 00:13:44,297
And it was just angry.
275
00:13:44,299 --> 00:13:46,032
Okay.
So I'm curious.
276
00:13:46,034 --> 00:13:48,935
I mean, how heavy of a feeling?
Just demonstrate to me.
277
00:13:48,937 --> 00:13:50,804
- Kind of like...
- Oh, I see what you're saying,
278
00:13:50,806 --> 00:13:52,706
like a body was
just leaning on ya.
279
00:13:52,708 --> 00:13:54,007
Yeah. Mm-hmm.
Laying on me.
280
00:13:54,009 --> 00:13:55,675
I've been touched
a lot, too.
281
00:13:55,677 --> 00:13:58,545
The first tour we gave,
I was standing over here.
282
00:13:58,547 --> 00:14:02,516
And I felt cold hands
going through my hair.
283
00:14:02,518 --> 00:14:04,384
And I've been
touched on my back.
284
00:14:04,386 --> 00:14:05,552
I've been tugged at.
285
00:14:05,554 --> 00:14:07,587
I've been touched
on my legs, feet.
286
00:14:07,589 --> 00:14:09,689
Now, when you say you've been
touched in those areas,
287
00:14:09,691 --> 00:14:11,124
were you talking
in a sexual way?
288
00:14:11,126 --> 00:14:12,793
Or just a...
- Just like a touch.
289
00:14:12,795 --> 00:14:15,228
Just like a touch,
cold touch I could feel.
290
00:14:15,230 --> 00:14:16,630
Okay.
291
00:14:16,632 --> 00:14:18,965
Well, why the hell
are you sticking around?
292
00:14:18,967 --> 00:14:21,001
'Cause the family,
I love the family here.
293
00:14:21,003 --> 00:14:23,970
We've all grown
so close together.
294
00:14:23,972 --> 00:14:25,906
I don't want to go.
295
00:14:25,908 --> 00:14:26,973
Okay.
296
00:14:29,611 --> 00:14:32,612
There's a woman,
and she's crying.
297
00:14:32,614 --> 00:14:35,849
I think, if a living person
is around her enough,
298
00:14:35,851 --> 00:14:39,820
uh, they might develop
various illnesses.
299
00:14:39,822 --> 00:14:43,156
She's prone to tantrums.
300
00:14:43,158 --> 00:14:44,724
People are afraid of her.
301
00:14:44,726 --> 00:14:46,693
If they get in her way,
302
00:14:46,695 --> 00:14:48,562
I feel like, uh,
303
00:14:48,564 --> 00:14:51,865
they might feel like
they're being slapped
304
00:14:51,867 --> 00:14:54,734
or pushed, uh, physically.
305
00:14:56,538 --> 00:14:58,038
I don't want to piss her off.
306
00:14:58,040 --> 00:14:59,739
Just how physical
can she get?
307
00:14:59,741 --> 00:15:02,709
I think that she can shove them
and, you know,
308
00:15:02,711 --> 00:15:05,912
like, push them down the stairs.
309
00:15:05,914 --> 00:15:09,149
Oh
She can harm people.
310
00:15:22,938 --> 00:15:24,838
The second I got out of town,
311
00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:26,407
I called a few local historians.
312
00:15:26,409 --> 00:15:30,444
One name kept coming up over
and over again, the Merchants.
313
00:15:30,446 --> 00:15:32,546
When I called
the local genealogist,
314
00:15:32,548 --> 00:15:34,148
he told me a Merchant family
315
00:15:34,150 --> 00:15:36,283
really did live on the property.
316
00:15:36,285 --> 00:15:38,552
And they had a lot of heartache
while they were there.
317
00:15:45,861 --> 00:15:47,428
Don, I know
Richard Merchant
318
00:15:47,430 --> 00:15:49,630
lived on my client's property
at some point.
319
00:15:49,632 --> 00:15:50,764
What can you tell me
about him?
320
00:15:50,766 --> 00:15:52,866
Well,
the Merchant family,
321
00:15:52,868 --> 00:15:55,502
uh, has been prominent
in Dumfries
322
00:15:55,504 --> 00:15:57,404
for over 200 years.
323
00:15:57,406 --> 00:15:59,073
This guy Richard sounds
like a rich kid.
324
00:15:59,075 --> 00:16:01,241
Yes.
You can tell from the way
325
00:16:01,243 --> 00:16:04,144
he's dressed that,
uh, he has some money.
326
00:16:04,146 --> 00:16:05,946
Okay,
so what's his story?
327
00:16:05,948 --> 00:16:09,450
He gets married in 1877.
328
00:16:09,452 --> 00:16:12,619
His wife is Annie Spieks.
329
00:16:12,621 --> 00:16:13,887
What do we know
about her?
330
00:16:13,889 --> 00:16:18,559
She was, uh, about the same
social level as he was.
331
00:16:18,561 --> 00:16:19,760
So, Don, you mentioned
on the phone
332
00:16:19,762 --> 00:16:21,161
that the family
had a lot of heartache.
333
00:16:21,163 --> 00:16:22,596
Uh, what'd you mean
by that?
334
00:16:22,598 --> 00:16:25,165
Well, they had
four children,
335
00:16:25,167 --> 00:16:29,770
three of whom died
young and tragically.
336
00:16:29,772 --> 00:16:32,406
The first child
was a boy named James.
337
00:16:32,408 --> 00:16:34,775
And he only lived
6 months.
338
00:16:34,777 --> 00:16:38,378
There's no official record
of his, uh, death.
339
00:16:38,380 --> 00:16:41,615
The second child
was also a boy named,
340
00:16:41,617 --> 00:16:43,283
uh, Richard Jr.
- Okay.
341
00:16:43,285 --> 00:16:45,953
And, uh, lived
to the age of 4.
342
00:16:45,955 --> 00:16:48,455
We do have a death
certificate for him.
343
00:16:48,457 --> 00:16:49,590
Okay.
344
00:16:49,592 --> 00:16:52,326
And it shows that
he died of meningitis.
345
00:16:52,328 --> 00:16:54,828
Okay, so this kid
suffered before he died.
346
00:16:54,830 --> 00:16:56,663
- Yes.
- What was the third death?
347
00:16:56,665 --> 00:17:00,434
The third child was,
uh, Mary Frances.
348
00:17:00,436 --> 00:17:04,905
In 1906, she died
of an epileptic seizure
349
00:17:04,907 --> 00:17:06,807
at the age of 23.
350
00:17:06,809 --> 00:17:09,510
How did Richard
and the wife handle this?
351
00:17:09,512 --> 00:17:11,011
Not well, apparently.
352
00:17:11,013 --> 00:17:13,914
Only 6 months
after Mary Frances died,
353
00:17:13,916 --> 00:17:15,215
Richard died.
354
00:17:15,217 --> 00:17:18,752
This is a copy
of his obituary.
355
00:17:18,754 --> 00:17:20,921
Oh, he was only 54
when he died.
356
00:17:20,923 --> 00:17:23,257
Okay, what's he dying of?
- Don't really know.
357
00:17:23,259 --> 00:17:26,960
There's no official
death certificate for him.
358
00:17:26,962 --> 00:17:28,262
Okay.
So now the wife,
359
00:17:28,264 --> 00:17:30,297
Annie's left
without her husband,
360
00:17:30,299 --> 00:17:32,766
lost three children now.
What happens with Annie?
361
00:17:32,768 --> 00:17:36,336
She stays on the property
for the rest of her life
362
00:17:36,338 --> 00:17:38,372
with her one
remaining child.
363
00:17:38,374 --> 00:17:40,174
This is a picture of her
364
00:17:40,176 --> 00:17:42,643
shortly after
her husband died.
365
00:17:42,645 --> 00:17:44,912
So, when you said
this family
366
00:17:44,914 --> 00:17:46,480
suffered some heartache
on the property,
367
00:17:46,482 --> 00:17:48,348
you aren't kidding.
- No.
368
00:17:48,350 --> 00:17:49,383
Okay.
369
00:17:50,953 --> 00:17:52,219
Crying lady.
370
00:17:52,221 --> 00:17:55,055
She's gone through a lot
of losses in her life.
371
00:17:55,057 --> 00:17:58,358
Uh, I think she lost
several children.
372
00:17:58,360 --> 00:18:00,961
It seems to me like
she's very spoiled.
373
00:18:00,963 --> 00:18:03,664
So I'm thinking she might've
come from money.
374
00:18:03,666 --> 00:18:05,732
Definitely a big complainer,
375
00:18:05,734 --> 00:18:09,570
big complainer,
big-time martyr.
376
00:18:09,572 --> 00:18:11,338
People are afraid of her.
377
00:18:15,044 --> 00:18:16,343
So far, I've got clients
378
00:18:16,345 --> 00:18:18,512
being physically assaulted
on a property
379
00:18:18,514 --> 00:18:21,515
where one of the original owners
lost three young children.
380
00:18:21,517 --> 00:18:26,153
But I want to see if
there's anything else.
381
00:18:26,155 --> 00:18:27,721
Searching through town records,
382
00:18:27,723 --> 00:18:29,323
I find that Dumfries
was caught right
383
00:18:29,325 --> 00:18:31,225
in the middle
of the Civil War,
384
00:18:31,227 --> 00:18:33,227
and that it changed hands
between Confederate
385
00:18:33,229 --> 00:18:36,730
and Union patrols several times.
386
00:18:36,732 --> 00:18:38,632
I'm heading over to meet
with a Civil War historian
387
00:18:38,634 --> 00:18:41,168
who says Erica's museum
is literally built
388
00:18:41,170 --> 00:18:44,238
over the remains of hundreds
of Confederate soldiers.
389
00:18:50,479 --> 00:18:52,746
All right.
390
00:18:52,748 --> 00:18:53,981
David, you mentioned
on the phone
391
00:18:53,983 --> 00:18:56,016
there were probably
hundreds of, uh, soldiers
392
00:18:56,018 --> 00:18:58,352
buried on the property
I'm investigating.
393
00:18:58,354 --> 00:19:00,220
Did all these men
die in battle?
394
00:19:00,222 --> 00:19:02,889
Uh, there weren't a lot
of casualties from battles.
395
00:19:02,891 --> 00:19:04,291
To be quite honest
with you,
396
00:19:04,293 --> 00:19:07,427
most of the casualties that
you're gonna see in Dumfries
397
00:19:07,429 --> 00:19:10,163
occur from three things --
from starvation,
398
00:19:10,165 --> 00:19:13,033
from the elements
and from disease.
399
00:19:13,035 --> 00:19:14,301
Okay.
400
00:19:14,303 --> 00:19:18,605
In the winter of 1861
and '62, there was a --
401
00:19:18,607 --> 00:19:21,975
a good bit of, uh, issue
with weather,
402
00:19:21,977 --> 00:19:24,311
with the elements because
it was extremely cold.
403
00:19:24,313 --> 00:19:26,313
Both winters
were very rough.
404
00:19:26,315 --> 00:19:28,548
What's your estimate
on how many dead
405
00:19:28,550 --> 00:19:30,517
Confederate soldiers
are in Dumfries?
406
00:19:30,519 --> 00:19:32,619
It could be
as many as 1,000.
407
00:19:32,621 --> 00:19:34,655
Wow.
Okay.
408
00:19:36,725 --> 00:19:39,893
I see, like, men marching.
409
00:19:39,895 --> 00:19:43,163
I think they have, like,
gray uniforms on.
410
00:19:44,900 --> 00:19:47,401
Somebody's banging the drums.
411
00:19:47,403 --> 00:19:51,672
And I saw frozen dead people.
412
00:19:53,842 --> 00:19:57,444
And they were, like,
encrusted in ice.
413
00:19:57,446 --> 00:20:00,080
Then I see...
Many people over the years
414
00:20:00,082 --> 00:20:02,115
have died along this path.
415
00:20:05,654 --> 00:20:07,220
What was the age --
average age
416
00:20:07,222 --> 00:20:08,522
for a soldier back then?
417
00:20:08,524 --> 00:20:09,890
Uh, a soldier should be,
418
00:20:09,892 --> 00:20:13,193
you know,
16, 17, 18 years old.
419
00:20:13,195 --> 00:20:15,162
Paint the picture what
these kids were going through
420
00:20:15,164 --> 00:20:17,798
when they were stationed there.
- It's cold.
421
00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:19,333
There's snow
on the ground.
422
00:20:19,335 --> 00:20:21,068
There's a lot of people
423
00:20:21,070 --> 00:20:24,037
camped in
a very tight location.
424
00:20:24,039 --> 00:20:26,406
The sanitation is poor...
425
00:20:26,408 --> 00:20:27,808
- Right.
- ...at best.
426
00:20:27,810 --> 00:20:30,043
And so, if you have
one of those men
427
00:20:30,045 --> 00:20:33,613
that contracts a disease
that can be spread,
428
00:20:33,615 --> 00:20:35,882
it spreads
like wildfire.
429
00:20:35,884 --> 00:20:38,919
Food is hard to come by, too.
People are starving.
430
00:20:38,921 --> 00:20:41,254
This is pretty traumatic
for these guys.
431
00:20:41,256 --> 00:20:43,123
Yes, sir,
like Hell on earth.
432
00:20:47,696 --> 00:20:50,163
I'm seeing the crying man again.
433
00:20:50,165 --> 00:20:52,399
He didn't have any food.
434
00:20:52,401 --> 00:20:55,102
He doesn't like the conditions.
435
00:20:55,104 --> 00:20:58,638
He -- he saw a lot of bad stuff.
436
00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:01,007
Like, he's showing me a memory
437
00:21:01,009 --> 00:21:03,910
that he has of
a guy's head exploding.
438
00:21:03,912 --> 00:21:07,147
And he can't get
that out of his mind.
439
00:21:09,284 --> 00:21:10,851
He's young.
440
00:21:10,853 --> 00:21:15,422
Uh, I think he's,
like, 16, 17, 18.
441
00:21:15,424 --> 00:21:16,757
He's really sick.
442
00:21:16,759 --> 00:21:21,094
Because everybody either died
or everybody got sick.
443
00:21:21,096 --> 00:21:23,430
Oh, he's got, like,
blood in his mouth.
444
00:21:23,432 --> 00:21:28,835
I feel like he got, like,
beaten and, like, shot.
445
00:21:36,612 --> 00:21:37,911
If you need us
to investigate
446
00:21:37,913 --> 00:21:39,846
unexplained activity
in your home,
447
00:21:39,848 --> 00:21:42,716
go to the "Dead Files"
page at travelchannel.com.
448
00:21:42,718 --> 00:21:44,484
Click on "Help Me, Dead Files!"
to submit your story,
449
00:21:44,486 --> 00:21:45,318
and we'll help if we can.
450
00:21:54,455 --> 00:21:57,022
You know, another thing
caught my eye in research.
451
00:21:57,024 --> 00:21:58,423
There was a deadly duel
452
00:21:58,425 --> 00:22:00,325
right next to the grounds
of the museum.
453
00:22:00,327 --> 00:22:02,527
This thing goes back
to the late 1700s.
454
00:22:02,529 --> 00:22:04,663
So I couldn't find
too much on it.
455
00:22:04,665 --> 00:22:07,099
But I'm on my way to meet
with a local professor
456
00:22:07,101 --> 00:22:09,234
who says the story
involves race,
457
00:22:09,236 --> 00:22:10,936
privilege and bloodshed.
458
00:22:18,045 --> 00:22:19,678
So, Kelly, this duel
that happened in --
459
00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,414
in the 1700s, were you able
to find out anything for me?
460
00:22:22,416 --> 00:22:23,882
Yeah.
Actually, it all started
461
00:22:23,884 --> 00:22:27,452
with the Scott family,
James and Sarah Scott.
462
00:22:27,454 --> 00:22:29,388
They were wealthy
Scottish immigrants.
463
00:22:29,390 --> 00:22:30,789
And they came here.
464
00:22:30,791 --> 00:22:31,823
And he was actually
the reverend
465
00:22:31,825 --> 00:22:32,858
of this church
right over here.
466
00:22:32,860 --> 00:22:33,892
And the family came over.
467
00:22:33,894 --> 00:22:35,494
They had
a 2,000-acre plantation.
468
00:22:35,496 --> 00:22:36,695
They owned 26 slaves.
469
00:22:36,697 --> 00:22:38,964
All right.
So now we got rich immigrants
470
00:22:38,966 --> 00:22:41,199
living on my client's
property here.
471
00:22:41,201 --> 00:22:42,301
How does that
turn into a duel?
472
00:22:42,303 --> 00:22:44,036
There was a little
boy named Davy.
473
00:22:44,038 --> 00:22:45,137
He was 7 years old.
474
00:22:45,139 --> 00:22:46,571
He was one of
the slaves on there.
475
00:22:46,573 --> 00:22:47,839
Okay.
476
00:22:47,841 --> 00:22:49,675
And, one day, he runs away.
And he gets caught.
477
00:22:49,677 --> 00:22:51,777
And he gets brought back
to the plantation.
478
00:22:51,779 --> 00:22:54,546
The reverend's wife,
Sarah, takes a cane.
479
00:22:54,548 --> 00:22:56,148
And she hits him twice
in the head
480
00:22:56,150 --> 00:22:57,716
and kills him.
- All right.
481
00:22:57,718 --> 00:22:59,017
So what winds up
happening with her?
482
00:22:59,019 --> 00:23:00,252
She goes to trial.
483
00:23:00,254 --> 00:23:01,687
And she gets acquitted.
484
00:23:01,689 --> 00:23:03,088
You're kidding.
485
00:23:03,090 --> 00:23:06,258
18th century, she's white,
it's what happened.
486
00:23:08,696 --> 00:23:12,931
I see different,
like, laborers working.
487
00:23:12,933 --> 00:23:17,903
And I'm feeling like there
were people who died out here.
488
00:23:17,905 --> 00:23:20,639
Like, basically,
people were murdered.
489
00:23:20,641 --> 00:23:25,877
But it was claimed to be
justice or legal or something.
490
00:23:25,879 --> 00:23:29,214
But it -- but it wasn't really.
491
00:23:29,216 --> 00:23:31,850
Well, I think the people
being murdered were --
492
00:23:31,852 --> 00:23:34,152
were black men and women.
493
00:23:38,292 --> 00:23:40,225
I'm just hearing
something about justice
494
00:23:40,227 --> 00:23:42,294
and justice being served.
495
00:23:42,296 --> 00:23:43,662
All right.
496
00:23:43,664 --> 00:23:46,231
So how does this
turn into a duel?
497
00:23:46,233 --> 00:23:48,333
So, right after
Sarah Scott gets off,
498
00:23:48,335 --> 00:23:51,536
there was a local colonel
whose name was John Baylis.
499
00:23:51,538 --> 00:23:53,872
And he was very upset
by what happened.
500
00:23:53,874 --> 00:23:55,140
Okay, so what --
what'd he do?
501
00:23:55,142 --> 00:23:56,742
So he started doing
a smear campaign,
502
00:23:56,744 --> 00:23:58,577
saying that --
that they were dishonorable.
503
00:23:58,579 --> 00:24:00,879
I mean, this was -- this was
a reverend and his wife.
504
00:24:00,881 --> 00:24:02,848
And, about two
and a half years later,
505
00:24:02,850 --> 00:24:04,616
their son, John Scott,
506
00:24:04,618 --> 00:24:06,284
decided to challenge him
to a duel
507
00:24:06,286 --> 00:24:08,153
because of all the pain
508
00:24:08,155 --> 00:24:09,888
he was causing
their family socially.
509
00:24:09,890 --> 00:24:12,090
Okay, so what happens
with that?
510
00:24:12,092 --> 00:24:15,027
So, on September 24,
1765,
511
00:24:15,029 --> 00:24:16,661
the duel took place
right here.
512
00:24:16,663 --> 00:24:19,464
And the whole town came out
to watch this happen.
513
00:24:19,466 --> 00:24:21,533
And John Scott decides
to have his brother-in-law,
514
00:24:21,535 --> 00:24:24,169
Cuthbert Bullitt,
stand in for him.
515
00:24:24,171 --> 00:24:25,504
Okay.
516
00:24:25,506 --> 00:24:27,506
So the kid that starts
the duel doesn't even...
517
00:24:27,508 --> 00:24:30,275
Nope, he doesn't
even participate.
518
00:24:30,277 --> 00:24:31,977
Okay.
So how's the duel go down?
519
00:24:31,979 --> 00:24:34,813
They do their
traditional 13 paces.
520
00:24:34,815 --> 00:24:38,984
And John Baylis is the one
who's supposed to fire first.
521
00:24:38,986 --> 00:24:41,286
And he shoots,
and he misses.
522
00:24:41,288 --> 00:24:43,055
Yeah.
So Bullitt shoots him,
523
00:24:43,057 --> 00:24:45,323
hits him in the groin
and the thigh.
524
00:24:45,325 --> 00:24:46,958
Here's the newspaper article
about it right here.
525
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:48,193
Okay.
526
00:24:48,195 --> 00:24:49,995
And he ends up
bleeding to death
527
00:24:49,997 --> 00:24:51,696
after 5 hours.
- All right.
528
00:24:51,698 --> 00:24:52,998
So it sounds like
this guy got hit
529
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:54,866
and then slowly bled out.
- Yep.
530
00:24:54,868 --> 00:24:58,003
I mean, you talk about
a miserable death.
531
00:24:58,005 --> 00:24:59,971
This guy really suffered
before he died.
532
00:25:03,343 --> 00:25:04,643
I'm -- I'm getting, like,
something about
533
00:25:04,645 --> 00:25:07,646
a impact to a male.
534
00:25:07,648 --> 00:25:11,883
Confusion, uh, stumbling.
535
00:25:13,987 --> 00:25:16,555
Really don't feel very good.
536
00:25:18,258 --> 00:25:19,491
He's dying.
537
00:25:19,493 --> 00:25:23,995
So he's stuck in
that pre-death state.
538
00:25:23,997 --> 00:25:29,367
I just feel a lot of panic,
like, fear, fear, fear.
539
00:25:29,369 --> 00:25:30,635
Just feel awful, though.
540
00:25:30,637 --> 00:25:34,539
Hmm, very sick.
541
00:25:42,816 --> 00:25:45,383
I saw several dead people
on my walk.
542
00:25:45,385 --> 00:25:46,551
But the crying woman
543
00:25:46,553 --> 00:25:49,221
attacking the living
concerned me the most.
544
00:25:49,223 --> 00:25:53,091
She was very thin and frail.
545
00:25:55,129 --> 00:26:00,966
Her mouth just looked
sad and angry.
546
00:26:06,473 --> 00:26:09,107
And this elderly female
547
00:26:09,109 --> 00:26:13,578
is socking a nondescript male
in the face.
548
00:26:19,186 --> 00:26:21,253
Amy,
is this who you saw?
549
00:26:21,255 --> 00:26:23,255
Yes, that's who I saw.
550
00:26:44,804 --> 00:26:47,705
Now that Amy and I have
completed our investigations,
551
00:26:47,707 --> 00:26:50,140
we're ready to reveal
our findings to each other
552
00:26:50,142 --> 00:26:53,310
and our clients
for the first time.
553
00:26:53,312 --> 00:26:55,846
So, Amy, this must be
one hell of a place to work.
554
00:26:55,848 --> 00:26:58,649
Because, after what these
two ladies have been through,
555
00:26:58,651 --> 00:27:01,352
I can't believe they're
even sitting here.
556
00:27:01,354 --> 00:27:03,721
This is Erica.
She's the assistant director.
557
00:27:03,723 --> 00:27:04,822
Uh, this is Natalie.
558
00:27:04,824 --> 00:27:08,058
She's a volunteer
for a few months now.
559
00:27:08,060 --> 00:27:10,661
And they've been through hell.
560
00:27:10,663 --> 00:27:13,197
Now, Erica called us in
because she's afraid
561
00:27:13,199 --> 00:27:14,698
of somebody getting hurt.
562
00:27:14,700 --> 00:27:15,899
And, if that happens,
563
00:27:15,901 --> 00:27:17,434
they're gonna have
to shut down the museum.
564
00:27:17,436 --> 00:27:19,503
So, now that Amy knows
a little bit about you guys,
565
00:27:19,505 --> 00:27:21,438
I'm gonna ask her
to describe her walk.
566
00:27:24,877 --> 00:27:28,145
I saw the main building
inside a graveyard,
567
00:27:28,147 --> 00:27:30,314
which I thought
was really odd.
568
00:27:30,316 --> 00:27:33,083
That indicated to me
that it was possible
569
00:27:33,085 --> 00:27:36,453
that a lot of deaths
had, uh, occurred.
570
00:27:36,455 --> 00:27:39,390
I walked around the yard.
The first people
571
00:27:39,392 --> 00:27:42,960
that I encountered
were in gray uniforms.
572
00:27:42,962 --> 00:27:45,362
And they were marching.
573
00:27:45,364 --> 00:27:48,632
And I kept hearing, like,
this weird drum beat.
574
00:27:49,835 --> 00:27:51,835
And then I got that there
were a lot of people
575
00:27:51,837 --> 00:27:54,638
who were extremely ill.
576
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,241
And then
I saw a lot of bodies
577
00:27:57,243 --> 00:28:03,280
that were encased
in ice and frost.
578
00:28:03,282 --> 00:28:05,015
Well, I might be able
to explain what you saw.
579
00:28:05,017 --> 00:28:06,283
Right now, there's a good chance
580
00:28:06,285 --> 00:28:07,785
that we're sitting on
the remains
581
00:28:07,787 --> 00:28:10,254
of some Confederate soldiers.
582
00:28:10,256 --> 00:28:11,889
Now, they wore gray uniforms.
583
00:28:11,891 --> 00:28:15,926
From what I was told, about
1,000 of 'em died right here.
584
00:28:15,928 --> 00:28:17,061
During the war, the soldiers
585
00:28:17,063 --> 00:28:18,962
were camped out right
on these grounds.
586
00:28:18,964 --> 00:28:21,965
Conditions were hellish,
freezing-cold temperatures,
587
00:28:21,967 --> 00:28:24,401
no running water, no sanitation.
588
00:28:24,403 --> 00:28:28,038
Food was scarce.
It was basically Hell on Earth.
589
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,774
Hundreds died from starvation,
590
00:28:30,776 --> 00:28:32,042
freezing to death,
591
00:28:32,044 --> 00:28:34,411
disease and basically
592
00:28:34,413 --> 00:28:36,980
were buried
right where they died.
593
00:28:36,982 --> 00:28:39,383
That absolutely
makes sense.
594
00:28:42,321 --> 00:28:45,122
I walked to houses.
595
00:28:45,124 --> 00:28:47,124
Which house did you
go into first?
596
00:28:47,126 --> 00:28:49,526
- The bigger house.
- Which is the annex.
597
00:28:49,528 --> 00:28:50,761
The annex.
598
00:28:50,763 --> 00:28:53,597
The only thing I was able
to get there
599
00:28:53,599 --> 00:28:56,200
was this older man.
600
00:28:56,202 --> 00:29:01,038
And he was this extraordinarily
dominant personality.
601
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,307
As soon as I walked up
and opened the door,
602
00:29:03,309 --> 00:29:04,908
he's like, "Hi!
603
00:29:04,910 --> 00:29:07,945
You can call me
Uncle Bob!"
604
00:29:07,947 --> 00:29:10,447
He was a rather big guy.
605
00:29:10,449 --> 00:29:14,685
Uh, he looked like
he was some type of farmer.
606
00:29:14,687 --> 00:29:16,520
He said that he tries
607
00:29:16,522 --> 00:29:19,456
to interact with
the living a lot over there.
608
00:29:19,458 --> 00:29:22,092
He said that he tries
to talk to them a lot.
609
00:29:22,094 --> 00:29:24,661
He has tried to take
pictures with them.
610
00:29:24,663 --> 00:29:27,998
He says that he tries
to show people around,
611
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,901
but they misinterpret
his touch.
612
00:29:30,903 --> 00:29:33,070
You mentioned that this guy
had his picture taken?
613
00:29:33,072 --> 00:29:34,771
Sure, yeah.
He wants to be
614
00:29:34,773 --> 00:29:37,474
the center of attention
all the time.
615
00:29:37,476 --> 00:29:39,443
In October,
you guys do this thing.
616
00:29:39,445 --> 00:29:40,944
Tell Amy about...
617
00:29:40,946 --> 00:29:44,815
In October, we do,
um, ghost walks.
618
00:29:44,817 --> 00:29:47,151
And we take a walk
going from our annex
619
00:29:47,153 --> 00:29:49,486
to the cemetery
620
00:29:49,488 --> 00:29:51,889
and then to the house.
621
00:29:51,891 --> 00:29:53,624
Like, you're not
harassing...
622
00:29:53,626 --> 00:29:56,660
No, we have a very strict
code of conduct...
623
00:29:56,662 --> 00:29:59,196
- Oh, okay. Good.
- ...that we maintain.
624
00:29:59,198 --> 00:30:01,899
He also dislikes
very much
625
00:30:01,901 --> 00:30:03,967
what's happening
to the building.
626
00:30:03,969 --> 00:30:05,869
And, when he gets angry,
627
00:30:05,871 --> 00:30:08,805
he'll do things like bang
on the ceilings.
628
00:30:08,807 --> 00:30:11,208
Um, and it's actually him,
like, jumping from the floor
629
00:30:11,210 --> 00:30:14,511
and, like, hitting, you know,
hitting the ceilings.
630
00:30:14,513 --> 00:30:17,281
Tell Amy about
knocks and bangs.
631
00:30:17,283 --> 00:30:18,782
Constant.
632
00:30:18,784 --> 00:30:22,152
A lot of knocks, bangs,
633
00:30:22,154 --> 00:30:27,658
it's on and off
all throughout the day.
634
00:30:27,660 --> 00:30:30,127
When he gets upset,
like,
635
00:30:30,129 --> 00:30:32,262
he throws a tantrum
like he's a 2-year-old.
636
00:30:32,264 --> 00:30:35,098
Like, he's a f--
like, weirdo.
637
00:30:35,100 --> 00:30:37,634
Uh, he got really
in my space
638
00:30:37,636 --> 00:30:40,070
and started to, like,
kind of smother me.
639
00:30:40,072 --> 00:30:42,973
I was thinking that
the living might experience
640
00:30:42,975 --> 00:30:44,675
that feeling as well.
641
00:30:44,677 --> 00:30:47,311
Yeah, I've experienced that,
like, something,
642
00:30:47,313 --> 00:30:49,613
just pressure on my shoulders
643
00:30:49,615 --> 00:30:51,982
and my chest where
I couldn't breathe.
644
00:30:51,984 --> 00:30:53,750
I mean, it was really
intense to the point
645
00:30:53,752 --> 00:30:55,986
where I had to get up
and leave the building.
646
00:30:55,988 --> 00:30:59,756
It was actually not long
after I started working there
647
00:30:59,758 --> 00:31:03,594
that I had a few issues
where I was feeling
648
00:31:03,596 --> 00:31:06,096
like I couldn't
catch my breath.
649
00:31:06,098 --> 00:31:09,600
And I was just, you know,
I had to kind of step outside
650
00:31:09,602 --> 00:31:11,802
and, you know,
get it together.
651
00:31:11,804 --> 00:31:13,604
Is that this -- this guy?
652
00:31:13,606 --> 00:31:15,172
Yes.
653
00:31:15,174 --> 00:31:19,476
I do not like being
in the office by myself,
654
00:31:19,478 --> 00:31:24,948
um, because I feel
something there.
655
00:31:24,950 --> 00:31:28,619
He could become more
of a sexual predator, um,
656
00:31:28,621 --> 00:31:33,890
and could go further
with acting his desires out.
657
00:31:33,892 --> 00:31:37,194
Mean -- I mean, it can
end up in -- into rape.
658
00:31:41,734 --> 00:31:43,700
Okay.
Anything else?
659
00:31:43,702 --> 00:31:48,138
So I finally went into
the main house, the little one.
660
00:31:48,140 --> 00:31:51,942
And I went into the room
where there's, like,
661
00:31:51,944 --> 00:31:56,213
a dining room table
and a fireplace.
662
00:31:56,215 --> 00:32:01,318
There were, like,
four or five males.
663
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,720
Uh, they were all white.
664
00:32:03,722 --> 00:32:04,855
There was a woman
665
00:32:04,857 --> 00:32:07,557
who was, like,
giving them drinks and food.
666
00:32:07,559 --> 00:32:10,794
And they were all having this,
like, heated argument.
667
00:32:10,796 --> 00:32:12,729
And there
was a lot of anger.
668
00:32:12,731 --> 00:32:14,698
It was extremely chaotic.
669
00:32:14,700 --> 00:32:20,103
And it could be dangerous
for the living, um,
670
00:32:20,105 --> 00:32:25,809
because it's so much
energy there
671
00:32:25,811 --> 00:32:28,378
that it could tap
a living person's energy
672
00:32:28,380 --> 00:32:31,348
and cause their potassium
level to drop.
673
00:32:31,350 --> 00:32:33,950
And also, just being
in that situation,
674
00:32:33,952 --> 00:32:35,452
it absolutely drains you.
675
00:32:35,454 --> 00:32:39,823
So you'll feel fatigued
in that room and tired.
676
00:32:39,825 --> 00:32:42,125
Sometimes, I go in.
677
00:32:42,127 --> 00:32:44,995
It's heavy.
It's oppressive.
678
00:32:44,997 --> 00:32:49,633
I feel, um, wiped out.
679
00:32:49,635 --> 00:32:51,968
I'm sorry.
I'm getting upset.
680
00:32:51,970 --> 00:32:54,204
I've been in that
side of the house.
681
00:32:54,206 --> 00:32:58,241
And I was actually making
my way towards the stairway.
682
00:32:58,243 --> 00:33:00,677
And -- and this feeling
came over me.
683
00:33:00,679 --> 00:33:02,446
It was just like,
you know, when you --
684
00:33:02,448 --> 00:33:04,147
you know, when you
really want to cry?
685
00:33:04,149 --> 00:33:05,582
Mm-hmm.
686
00:33:05,584 --> 00:33:09,786
And it's that feeling
like you're just gonna cry.
687
00:33:09,788 --> 00:33:13,323
So I've experienced that
on a couple of occasions.
688
00:33:13,325 --> 00:33:14,558
Now, Natalie,
you're pregnant.
689
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:16,326
You're a couple weeks, right?
- Yeah, yeah.
690
00:33:16,328 --> 00:33:19,296
I'm -- I'm worried now
that it --
691
00:33:19,298 --> 00:33:21,898
after what you just said
about the room in there,
692
00:33:21,900 --> 00:33:24,901
could that affect my baby,
hurt my baby in any way?
693
00:33:29,074 --> 00:33:31,608
Okay, anything else?
694
00:33:31,610 --> 00:33:36,613
So this individual
I'm...concerned about.
695
00:33:36,615 --> 00:33:40,784
Um, she's a bit
of trouble.
696
00:33:40,786 --> 00:33:42,452
She's depressed.
697
00:33:42,454 --> 00:33:47,124
And she, like, is full
of, like, self-pity.
698
00:33:47,126 --> 00:33:48,925
And, when I first
encountered her,
699
00:33:48,927 --> 00:33:51,561
she was just crying
and crying and crying.
700
00:33:51,563 --> 00:33:55,298
She's very used
to getting her own way.
701
00:33:55,300 --> 00:33:58,001
And if she doesn't
get her own way,
702
00:33:58,003 --> 00:34:01,872
she literally, like a child,
throws a tantrum.
703
00:34:01,874 --> 00:34:05,742
And the ways that she can
lash out towards the living,
704
00:34:05,744 --> 00:34:09,379
what she indicated was
that she could slap people.
705
00:34:09,381 --> 00:34:11,581
She could shove people.
706
00:34:11,583 --> 00:34:14,351
People can get sick
from her.
707
00:34:14,353 --> 00:34:17,120
I think that people
could possibly see her.
708
00:34:17,122 --> 00:34:18,455
I was giving a tour.
709
00:34:18,457 --> 00:34:22,526
And I could feel,
uh, hands going up --
710
00:34:22,528 --> 00:34:24,394
a hand going up
the back of my head
711
00:34:24,396 --> 00:34:27,731
and then fisting my hair
and yanking it.
712
00:34:27,733 --> 00:34:30,467
- Whoa!
- So it yanked my head back.
713
00:34:30,469 --> 00:34:31,835
It was strong enough.
714
00:34:31,837 --> 00:34:34,004
And it was --
and I actually got verbal.
715
00:34:34,006 --> 00:34:35,572
I said, "Stop, please."
716
00:34:35,574 --> 00:34:37,741
That -- would --
that would've been her?
717
00:34:37,743 --> 00:34:39,376
Yeah.
718
00:34:39,378 --> 00:34:41,611
I've been touched on my butt.
719
00:34:41,613 --> 00:34:44,414
I've been touched
on my back, my shoulders.
720
00:34:44,416 --> 00:34:46,383
I've been touched a lot.
721
00:34:46,385 --> 00:34:47,818
The other problem is
722
00:34:47,820 --> 00:34:50,153
you've had people
pushed down those stairs.
723
00:34:50,155 --> 00:34:53,690
Yes, at least
that I know of,
724
00:34:53,692 --> 00:34:55,992
on three occasions.
725
00:34:55,994 --> 00:34:58,261
Oh, she really did it,
huh?
726
00:34:59,364 --> 00:35:04,434
One of the things
that I saw
727
00:35:04,436 --> 00:35:07,103
was her going after
a living male.
728
00:35:07,105 --> 00:35:10,340
And so I did
have a sketch done.
729
00:35:17,916 --> 00:35:19,516
She ain't playing games,
is she?
730
00:35:19,518 --> 00:35:20,984
No.
731
00:35:24,723 --> 00:35:26,256
That's...
732
00:35:28,827 --> 00:35:31,127
It's creepy.
733
00:35:31,129 --> 00:35:32,863
It makes me feel uncomfortable.
734
00:35:35,033 --> 00:35:37,834
You have any idea who this woman
might've been in life?
735
00:35:37,836 --> 00:35:41,104
She looked to be about
in her, uh, 30s,
736
00:35:41,106 --> 00:35:42,472
early 30s, I would say.
737
00:35:42,474 --> 00:35:44,140
And the way she was dressed,
she just had on,
738
00:35:44,142 --> 00:35:47,110
like, a white dressing gown,
you know, for bed.
739
00:35:47,112 --> 00:35:48,879
And, uh,
so I was thinking
740
00:35:48,881 --> 00:35:52,249
maybe she was
from the 1800s.
741
00:35:52,251 --> 00:35:55,318
I got that she, you know,
742
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,788
obviously had been exposed
to money at some point.
743
00:35:58,790 --> 00:36:01,491
She indicated that she had
lost several children,
744
00:36:01,493 --> 00:36:04,861
that that's why she's always
so depressed and crying.
745
00:36:04,863 --> 00:36:09,499
Um, then she said about
her death that she got sick.
746
00:36:09,501 --> 00:36:11,334
Uh, it -- like,
it came on really quickly.
747
00:36:11,336 --> 00:36:13,870
And she died really quickly
from her illness.
748
00:36:13,872 --> 00:36:16,673
And that she was older
when she died
749
00:36:16,675 --> 00:36:19,075
than what
I was seeing her as,
750
00:36:19,077 --> 00:36:22,779
in her 60s or maybe 70s,
when she died,
751
00:36:22,781 --> 00:36:26,783
and she looked really,
really bad.
752
00:36:26,785 --> 00:36:28,285
You got a woman
who comes from money
753
00:36:28,287 --> 00:36:31,688
who lost a few kids
around the 1800s.
754
00:36:31,690 --> 00:36:33,890
I mean, I might have
something for you here.
755
00:36:33,892 --> 00:36:37,327
Annie Merchant and her husband,
Richard, um,
756
00:36:37,329 --> 00:36:39,796
moved on
to the property in 1881.
757
00:36:39,798 --> 00:36:41,798
Now, both of them
came from money.
758
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,367
In fact, they were
basically given the land
759
00:36:44,369 --> 00:36:47,270
by his parents, his mother.
760
00:36:47,272 --> 00:36:51,207
So they had four kids,
but three of them died.
761
00:36:51,209 --> 00:36:52,576
Wow.
762
00:36:52,578 --> 00:36:56,012
The husband, Richard,
also died young.
763
00:36:56,014 --> 00:36:58,748
I got his obit here.
764
00:36:58,750 --> 00:37:01,685
You can see they really
have no idea how he died.
765
00:37:01,687 --> 00:37:03,553
She lived on the property
766
00:37:03,555 --> 00:37:06,189
all alone for many years.
767
00:37:06,191 --> 00:37:10,727
Um, she finally died
in 1952 at the age of 98.
768
00:37:10,729 --> 00:37:11,928
Whoa.
769
00:37:11,930 --> 00:37:13,797
I was able to track down
a photo of her.
770
00:37:13,799 --> 00:37:15,065
Dang.
771
00:37:15,067 --> 00:37:17,701
Um, in the photo,
she's probably in her 60s.
772
00:37:17,703 --> 00:37:20,203
Okay.
773
00:37:25,243 --> 00:37:27,611
Um, wondering if that might be
who's haunting this place.
774
00:37:27,613 --> 00:37:30,614
Oh, yeah.
That looks like her.
775
00:37:30,616 --> 00:37:33,416
This is the one
that's been touching me.
776
00:37:33,418 --> 00:37:34,918
That scares me that --
777
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,253
that she could cause
a miscarriage for me.
778
00:37:37,255 --> 00:37:41,257
I would be nervous
because I could see her
779
00:37:41,259 --> 00:37:45,161
being jealous
and acting out, lashing out.
780
00:37:45,163 --> 00:37:48,698
I'm about to cry, too.
'Cause that's scary.
781
00:37:48,700 --> 00:37:51,534
That -- that makes me feel
like I don't want to be here.
782
00:37:51,536 --> 00:37:53,703
But I -- I -- I don't want
to leave my family.
783
00:37:53,705 --> 00:37:55,105
I don't want to leave 'em.
784
00:37:58,076 --> 00:37:59,509
Sorry, I'm about to break down.
785
00:37:59,511 --> 00:38:02,012
It's okay.
786
00:38:04,416 --> 00:38:06,583
Yeah,
I completely understand.
787
00:38:06,585 --> 00:38:09,052
I mean, of course, we'd --
we'd hate to lose her.
788
00:38:09,054 --> 00:38:11,988
I mean, we don't want you to go.
But, I mean -- but we --
789
00:38:11,990 --> 00:38:16,393
um, I mean, I --
I -- take care of yourself.
790
00:38:16,395 --> 00:38:20,630
So my concern with her, um,
is that she would jump
791
00:38:20,632 --> 00:38:23,700
to the next level
and start killing.
792
00:38:23,702 --> 00:38:25,568
I think
she has that potential.
793
00:38:27,973 --> 00:38:31,875
I'm glad I know
what's going on here now.
794
00:38:31,877 --> 00:38:35,145
Gonna have to protect me
and my baby.
795
00:38:52,139 --> 00:38:56,041
So I got to say that you
two ladies have been very loyal
796
00:38:56,043 --> 00:38:58,110
and dedicated to this museum.
797
00:38:58,112 --> 00:39:00,112
And I hope this town
is grateful for that.
798
00:39:00,114 --> 00:39:01,647
But it's still
just a building.
799
00:39:01,649 --> 00:39:06,885
You know, my concern
is you guys and your baby.
800
00:39:06,887 --> 00:39:08,053
So now we're gonna find out
801
00:39:08,055 --> 00:39:09,554
if it's safe
for you guys to stay here.
802
00:39:09,556 --> 00:39:12,057
For that, I'm gonna
turn it over to Amy.
803
00:39:14,795 --> 00:39:18,096
There's obviously things
that need to be done
804
00:39:18,098 --> 00:39:21,366
to ensure people's safety.
805
00:39:21,368 --> 00:39:25,237
And that goes for staff,
volunteers and visitors.
806
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:29,508
So what I recommend
doing is a cleansing
807
00:39:29,510 --> 00:39:34,279
by taking a bunch of,
like, old towels or rags
808
00:39:34,281 --> 00:39:38,183
and putting them in,
uh, salt water
809
00:39:38,185 --> 00:39:42,220
and then going and wiping
down the walls,
810
00:39:42,222 --> 00:39:43,689
everything in the room.
811
00:39:43,691 --> 00:39:48,694
And what it does is it
brings in good energy.
812
00:39:48,696 --> 00:39:50,529
It removes any kind
of depression
813
00:39:50,531 --> 00:39:51,830
that's floating around
in the air.
814
00:39:51,832 --> 00:39:56,134
It's, like, really a wonderful,
uh, thing to use.
815
00:39:56,136 --> 00:39:58,370
As far as the two dead
that are issues,
816
00:39:58,372 --> 00:40:03,408
so this Uncle Bob guy
and the woman,
817
00:40:03,410 --> 00:40:09,114
my suggestion
is to bring in a minister
818
00:40:09,116 --> 00:40:13,452
who will go
into both locations
819
00:40:13,454 --> 00:40:15,954
and do a blessing.
820
00:40:15,956 --> 00:40:17,756
During that blessing,
821
00:40:17,758 --> 00:40:19,658
he also needs
to make a statement
822
00:40:19,660 --> 00:40:23,261
directly to these
deceased individuals
823
00:40:23,263 --> 00:40:25,397
that you guys
need to leave.
824
00:40:25,399 --> 00:40:27,299
You are no longer
welcome here.
825
00:40:27,301 --> 00:40:28,667
You need to leave.
826
00:40:28,669 --> 00:40:30,602
Give 'em a week
after he leaves
827
00:40:30,604 --> 00:40:32,904
and does his blessing.
Give 'me a week.
828
00:40:32,906 --> 00:40:35,874
If activity is
still going on,
829
00:40:35,876 --> 00:40:37,743
if they're still
being idiots
830
00:40:37,745 --> 00:40:39,878
and they choose
not to go,
831
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:42,180
then the minister will
have to come back
832
00:40:42,182 --> 00:40:46,084
and do an exorcism.
833
00:40:46,086 --> 00:40:47,686
How are you feeling about
the whole exorcism thing
834
00:40:47,688 --> 00:40:49,621
if things don't work out?
835
00:40:49,623 --> 00:40:51,390
The alternative
is unthinkable.
836
00:40:51,392 --> 00:40:53,558
I mean, we're not going
to shut our doors.
837
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:56,928
So we're willing to do
what we need to do.
838
00:40:56,930 --> 00:41:00,465
So, as far as the other dead
go, um, could they stay?
839
00:41:00,467 --> 00:41:01,900
I feel like they can.
840
00:41:01,902 --> 00:41:05,670
Because they're not causing
any problems or anything.
841
00:41:07,641 --> 00:41:09,341
You're upset you can't
be here for while.
842
00:41:09,343 --> 00:41:12,110
Yeah.
I'm very upset.
843
00:41:12,112 --> 00:41:14,146
But it's not a --
844
00:41:14,148 --> 00:41:16,314
a -- a lifetime thing, you know?
845
00:41:16,316 --> 00:41:18,483
You'll be back.
846
00:41:18,485 --> 00:41:20,685
Well, you've definitely
given us insight
847
00:41:20,687 --> 00:41:25,590
on what we've got going on
and given us direction.
848
00:41:25,592 --> 00:41:30,195
And that within itself
is priceless for us.
849
00:41:33,967 --> 00:41:36,835
If Erica follows
my suggestions,
850
00:41:36,837 --> 00:41:38,403
she'll be able
to keep the museum
851
00:41:38,405 --> 00:41:41,106
she loves open
for years to come.
852
00:41:41,108 --> 00:41:42,674
And, more importantly,
she'll be able
853
00:41:42,676 --> 00:41:45,410
to have her friend, Natalie,
by her side.
854
00:41:45,460 --> 00:41:50,010
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