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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:10,211 --> 00:00:12,845 For the living and the dead, 2 00:00:12,847 --> 00:00:15,881 this is just a terrible place. 3 00:00:15,883 --> 00:00:18,951 Something is tearing my family apart. 4 00:00:18,953 --> 00:00:22,287 This person is scary. 5 00:00:22,289 --> 00:00:25,024 I just know, whatever it is, it's bad. 6 00:00:26,494 --> 00:00:29,395 It's physically painful to be in here. 7 00:00:29,397 --> 00:00:32,464 Sickness is everywhere. 8 00:00:32,466 --> 00:00:34,666 I just hear death. -Aah! 9 00:00:34,668 --> 00:00:36,902 My name is Amy Allan. 10 00:00:36,904 --> 00:00:38,537 God. 11 00:00:38,539 --> 00:00:40,039 It's like, "I'm going to get you." 12 00:00:40,041 --> 00:00:41,140 I see dead people. 13 00:00:41,142 --> 00:00:42,408 Her face was all demonic. 14 00:00:42,410 --> 00:00:44,143 I speak to dead people. 15 00:00:44,145 --> 00:00:46,945 He's like, "You think you can stop me? Because you can't." 16 00:00:46,947 --> 00:00:48,347 And they speak to me. 17 00:00:48,349 --> 00:00:49,882 What is he trying to do? Kill them. 18 00:00:49,884 --> 00:00:53,018 But there's only one way to know if my findings are real. 19 00:00:53,020 --> 00:00:55,020 Something happened. Bam, bam, bam! 20 00:00:55,022 --> 00:00:56,588 I rely on my partner. 21 00:00:56,590 --> 00:00:58,157 I'm Steve Di Schiavi. 22 00:00:58,159 --> 00:00:59,892 I'm a retired New York City homicide detective. 23 00:00:59,894 --> 00:01:01,393 Am I seeing what I think I'm seeing? 24 00:01:01,395 --> 00:01:04,596 And I know every person, every house has secrets. 25 00:01:04,598 --> 00:01:05,764 They're everywhere. 26 00:01:05,766 --> 00:01:07,166 It's my job to reveal them. 27 00:01:07,168 --> 00:01:09,535 This guy's got the markings of a serial killer. 28 00:01:09,537 --> 00:01:12,037 But Steve and I never speak... 29 00:01:12,039 --> 00:01:14,106 We never communicate during an investigation. 30 00:01:14,108 --> 00:01:15,307 ...until the very end... 31 00:01:15,309 --> 00:01:16,975 Is this dead guy doing that to her? 32 00:01:16,977 --> 00:01:18,844 ...when we uncover if it's safe for you to stay... 33 00:01:18,846 --> 00:01:20,946 That's it. 34 00:01:20,948 --> 00:01:22,214 ...or time to get out. 35 00:01:22,216 --> 00:01:25,717 Somebody's gonna die over there soon, yeah. 36 00:01:25,719 --> 00:01:26,819 Aaaaaah! 37 00:01:43,270 --> 00:01:44,770 I'm out here in Kaufman, Texas. 38 00:01:44,772 --> 00:01:48,140 It's about 35 miles southeast of Dallas. 39 00:01:48,142 --> 00:01:49,575 I got a call from a guy named Larry. 40 00:01:49,577 --> 00:01:52,978 Now, this guy's got a real problem on his hands. 41 00:01:52,980 --> 00:01:54,646 He says paranormal activity in the house 42 00:01:54,648 --> 00:01:56,348 already broke up his marriage 43 00:01:56,350 --> 00:02:00,152 and, now, his three daughters are coming under attack. 44 00:02:00,154 --> 00:02:01,386 He says we're his last hope 45 00:02:01,388 --> 00:02:03,021 to bring his family back together. 46 00:02:03,023 --> 00:02:04,523 I really hope we can help this poor guy out. 47 00:02:10,431 --> 00:02:11,864 Before Amy arrives, 48 00:02:11,866 --> 00:02:14,733 I clear the house of any leading information. 49 00:02:14,735 --> 00:02:16,635 Family photos and religious items 50 00:02:16,637 --> 00:02:18,504 must be covered or removed. 51 00:02:18,506 --> 00:02:20,305 When I'm finished, the location'll be ready 52 00:02:20,307 --> 00:02:21,540 for tonight's walk. 53 00:02:36,957 --> 00:02:39,791 That's weird. 54 00:02:39,793 --> 00:02:43,562 Something's wrong here. 55 00:02:43,564 --> 00:02:46,298 It feels, really horrible 56 00:02:46,300 --> 00:02:51,637 and it's just like this sickness is just everywhere. 57 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:54,173 And then, there's like this depression, this depression. 58 00:02:54,175 --> 00:02:56,375 And it's scary. Something going on. 59 00:02:56,377 --> 00:02:57,809 And it's huge. It's so bad. 60 00:02:57,811 --> 00:02:59,077 And you just wanna run away. 61 00:02:59,079 --> 00:03:02,714 And you want to run the **** away. 62 00:03:15,963 --> 00:03:17,629 All right. So, Larry, when we spoke on the phone, 63 00:03:17,631 --> 00:03:19,164 you sounded pretty upset. 64 00:03:19,166 --> 00:03:21,166 What the hell's going on? 65 00:03:21,168 --> 00:03:24,536 Something is tearing my family apart. 66 00:03:24,538 --> 00:03:26,905 Relationships have gone to hell. 67 00:03:26,907 --> 00:03:29,942 My wife finally got to the point 68 00:03:29,944 --> 00:03:34,413 where she just asked me to move out. 69 00:03:34,415 --> 00:03:36,381 She was my golden girl and I figured that we'd 70 00:03:36,383 --> 00:03:39,651 live the rest of our lives together, 'til we died. 71 00:03:39,653 --> 00:03:41,653 That's just not the way it happened. 72 00:03:41,655 --> 00:03:42,988 Why would you think it's the paranormal 73 00:03:42,990 --> 00:03:44,189 that broke up your marriage? 74 00:03:44,191 --> 00:03:46,592 Something is wanting to take control 75 00:03:46,594 --> 00:03:48,193 of the women in the house 76 00:03:48,195 --> 00:03:51,463 and trying to get rid of all of the men. 77 00:03:51,465 --> 00:03:53,732 All right. So this is a pretty unusual arrangement 78 00:03:53,734 --> 00:03:54,967 you guys got going here. 79 00:03:54,969 --> 00:03:56,301 Now, who's living where? 80 00:03:56,303 --> 00:03:58,303 I'm living in this house over here 81 00:03:58,305 --> 00:04:00,138 and my wife and my three daughters 82 00:04:00,140 --> 00:04:01,940 are living in this house over here. 83 00:04:01,942 --> 00:04:03,141 Okay. - Matter of fact, 84 00:04:03,143 --> 00:04:04,977 I've got a picture of my family 85 00:04:04,979 --> 00:04:06,979 that's staying at that house. 86 00:04:06,981 --> 00:04:08,914 Okay. So who's this? - This is Chelsea. 87 00:04:08,916 --> 00:04:11,250 Next to her is Denise, my wife. 88 00:04:11,252 --> 00:04:13,518 Okay. - Next to her is Brittany, 89 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:15,287 my oldest daughter. 90 00:04:15,289 --> 00:04:17,623 And that's Ashley, my middle daughter. 91 00:04:17,625 --> 00:04:19,057 All right. So, Larry, do me favor. 92 00:04:19,059 --> 00:04:20,459 Give me a list of what's going on here. 93 00:04:20,461 --> 00:04:22,361 We hear voices. 94 00:04:22,363 --> 00:04:24,663 We see shadows. 95 00:04:24,665 --> 00:04:28,000 We're having physical attacks on the girls, 96 00:04:28,002 --> 00:04:31,236 that's causing health issues. 97 00:04:31,238 --> 00:04:33,639 I've got rheumatoid arthritis. 98 00:04:33,641 --> 00:04:36,308 I've got degenerative bone disease, 99 00:04:36,310 --> 00:04:38,343 suffering from depression. 100 00:04:38,345 --> 00:04:39,845 I had a heart attack. 101 00:04:39,847 --> 00:04:42,748 My wife had thyroid cancer. 102 00:04:42,750 --> 00:04:45,183 So, Larry, I gotta ask ya: how old are ya? 103 00:04:45,185 --> 00:04:46,952 Sixty. - I mean, the ailments 104 00:04:46,954 --> 00:04:48,954 you're talking about are for a much older man 105 00:04:48,956 --> 00:04:50,289 and I can't help but notice the walker. 106 00:04:50,291 --> 00:04:52,257 What's with the walker? 107 00:04:52,259 --> 00:04:54,226 Well, me and my daughter Ashley 108 00:04:54,228 --> 00:04:56,228 got into an altercation. 109 00:04:56,230 --> 00:04:57,696 She downright kicked me, 110 00:04:57,698 --> 00:04:59,431 broke the crap outta my leg 111 00:04:59,433 --> 00:05:02,701 in three different places. 112 00:05:02,703 --> 00:05:05,704 It was like something took over. 113 00:05:05,706 --> 00:05:08,707 What do you want out of this investigation? 114 00:05:08,709 --> 00:05:11,176 I want whatever is here is gone, 115 00:05:11,178 --> 00:05:13,578 so that me and my wife and my family 116 00:05:13,580 --> 00:05:15,213 can all be a family again. 117 00:05:20,487 --> 00:05:25,857 There's somebody here who's having really, 118 00:05:25,859 --> 00:05:27,893 really bad knee issues. 119 00:05:37,304 --> 00:05:40,872 I see like a woman. 120 00:05:40,874 --> 00:05:43,075 And she's like screaming. 121 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:53,819 And I'm seeing her like running after a man. 122 00:05:53,821 --> 00:05:56,455 She's beating him. Very abusive. 123 00:05:56,457 --> 00:06:00,759 It's very abusive. Very bad, very bad. 124 00:06:00,761 --> 00:06:02,294 He's running away from her. 125 00:06:02,296 --> 00:06:05,397 She's screaming at the top of her lungs. 126 00:06:05,399 --> 00:06:09,368 I'm getting like chills down my back. 127 00:06:09,370 --> 00:06:10,936 It's so **** negative. 128 00:06:18,112 --> 00:06:20,245 Okay. So what kind of experiences are you having? 129 00:06:20,247 --> 00:06:21,346 I got attacked. 130 00:06:21,348 --> 00:06:25,851 I got slapped real hard, twice, on the arm 131 00:06:25,853 --> 00:06:28,487 and it made me bolt out of bed. 132 00:06:28,489 --> 00:06:30,789 It freaked me out. 133 00:06:30,791 --> 00:06:32,524 I went into the bathroom 134 00:06:32,526 --> 00:06:34,926 and I lifted up my nightshirt 135 00:06:34,928 --> 00:06:38,397 and there was three scratches on my belly 136 00:06:38,399 --> 00:06:41,767 and my lower rib cage on my right side. 137 00:06:41,769 --> 00:06:44,035 Now, I know there's dogs all over the place. 138 00:06:44,037 --> 00:06:45,604 You sure the dog didn't do this? 139 00:06:45,606 --> 00:06:47,305 The marks were so far apart. 140 00:06:47,307 --> 00:06:49,141 It was bigger than my dog's paw. 141 00:06:49,143 --> 00:06:52,344 There's no way that my dogs coulda made those marks. 142 00:06:52,346 --> 00:06:54,780 All right. So, anything else? 143 00:06:54,782 --> 00:06:58,016 We see shadow figures and they've gotta be, 144 00:06:58,018 --> 00:07:01,853 I would say, every bit of 10, 11 feet. 145 00:07:01,855 --> 00:07:02,988 They're everywhere. 146 00:07:02,990 --> 00:07:05,157 I feel somebody's in the room with me 147 00:07:05,159 --> 00:07:08,059 and I know that there's no one there. 148 00:07:08,061 --> 00:07:09,327 I need answers. 149 00:07:09,329 --> 00:07:12,464 Something's just tearing us apart. 150 00:07:12,466 --> 00:07:13,965 Okay. 151 00:07:16,303 --> 00:07:19,504 I see an old, old man. 152 00:07:19,506 --> 00:07:22,507 And he's creeping about. 153 00:07:22,509 --> 00:07:24,576 Living people with him would feel watched. 154 00:07:24,578 --> 00:07:30,348 Maybe they might see a shadow like that on the wall. 155 00:07:30,350 --> 00:07:31,950 He is a creepy mother****. 156 00:07:35,122 --> 00:07:40,125 I think there's like a lot of stuff going on here. 157 00:07:46,767 --> 00:07:48,733 So, Denise, I was talking to Larry. 158 00:07:48,735 --> 00:07:50,202 He was pretty convinced 159 00:07:50,204 --> 00:07:52,137 that the paranormal broke you and him up. 160 00:07:52,139 --> 00:07:55,073 You agree with that? - No. I don't. 161 00:07:55,075 --> 00:07:56,608 People's relationships don't work out 162 00:07:56,610 --> 00:07:58,610 all the time and people walk away. 163 00:07:58,612 --> 00:08:00,579 And I assume you don't believe in the paranormal. 164 00:08:00,581 --> 00:08:02,948 No. I do believe in paranormal. 165 00:08:02,950 --> 00:08:05,417 It's terrorizing my -- my family. 166 00:08:05,419 --> 00:08:06,818 Have you had any experiences? 167 00:08:06,820 --> 00:08:09,154 Yes. We've had a family photo 168 00:08:09,156 --> 00:08:12,090 that fell on the floor. - Where was it? 169 00:08:12,092 --> 00:08:15,994 It's in the entryway, on a like a mantelpiece 170 00:08:15,996 --> 00:08:17,629 and it was sitting up there 171 00:08:17,631 --> 00:08:19,631 and it just fell off. 172 00:08:19,633 --> 00:08:21,132 Got a bunch of dogs here, right? 173 00:08:21,134 --> 00:08:23,335 - Yeah. - Sure one of the dogs didn't? 174 00:08:23,337 --> 00:08:25,670 No. They had been asleep on the couch. 175 00:08:25,672 --> 00:08:27,539 Okay. Well, talking to Larry, 176 00:08:27,541 --> 00:08:30,475 he thinks the paranormal is causing health problems here. 177 00:08:30,477 --> 00:08:32,711 You agree with that? - I do believe that. 178 00:08:32,713 --> 00:08:34,679 Now, I, you know, I hate to say this, but, I mean, 179 00:08:34,681 --> 00:08:36,548 Larry's 60, right? - Yes. 180 00:08:36,550 --> 00:08:38,517 He doesn't look good for his age. 181 00:08:38,519 --> 00:08:40,318 No. He looks more like 80. 182 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:41,720 If he keeps going the way he's going, 183 00:08:41,722 --> 00:08:45,056 he's going to end up dying a very premature death. 184 00:08:45,058 --> 00:08:48,426 I don't want his children to have to go through, 185 00:08:48,428 --> 00:08:50,028 you know, what I've gone through. 186 00:08:50,030 --> 00:08:51,630 What do you mean by that? 187 00:08:51,632 --> 00:08:53,532 I had a stepfather who raised me 188 00:08:53,534 --> 00:08:57,569 and he died 25 years ago, so. 189 00:08:57,571 --> 00:09:00,005 He was murdered. 190 00:09:00,007 --> 00:09:02,807 It was very rough 'cause we were very close. 191 00:09:02,809 --> 00:09:04,442 I would never want my children 192 00:09:04,444 --> 00:09:07,479 to have to go through that 'cause it was bad. 193 00:09:16,590 --> 00:09:19,958 Horrible, horrible, negative energy. 194 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:26,464 It feels like I'm walking through sludge, like 195 00:09:26,466 --> 00:09:27,899 Somebody lost someone. 196 00:09:27,901 --> 00:09:30,335 Someone can't breathe. 197 00:09:30,337 --> 00:09:33,772 Can't breathe because they lost this person. 198 00:09:33,774 --> 00:09:38,376 Whoever's here isn't getting over that, at all. 199 00:09:38,378 --> 00:09:40,312 He didn't die here. 200 00:09:40,314 --> 00:09:43,381 He died far away, recent, 201 00:09:43,383 --> 00:09:46,184 anywhere from 1990 to now, maybe. 202 00:09:46,186 --> 00:09:47,619 This guy's a good guy. 203 00:09:47,621 --> 00:09:50,622 He's trying to get away from here, but he can't. 204 00:09:50,624 --> 00:09:52,557 There's like an energetic cord 205 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:55,293 that's formed between this dead man 206 00:09:55,295 --> 00:09:59,531 and a living person he had a relationship with. 207 00:09:59,533 --> 00:10:01,633 All I saw was them pulling this cord 208 00:10:01,635 --> 00:10:06,237 and he's like "Aaaaah! No! No!" 209 00:10:06,239 --> 00:10:07,639 Not a happy situation. 210 00:10:27,527 --> 00:10:29,260 So, Chelsea, I understand you're the youngest 211 00:10:29,262 --> 00:10:30,795 of the three girls, correct? - Yes. 212 00:10:30,797 --> 00:10:32,130 - Okay. How old are you? - I'm 20. 213 00:10:32,132 --> 00:10:35,834 - Have you had any experiences? - Yes. I had a experience 214 00:10:35,836 --> 00:10:38,169 where I was sleeping in my bed 215 00:10:38,171 --> 00:10:40,705 and I heard something like whisper, "Hey." 216 00:10:40,707 --> 00:10:43,074 And I could feel the hair move next to my ear 217 00:10:43,076 --> 00:10:45,143 and I like woke up out of a dead sleep, 218 00:10:45,145 --> 00:10:47,879 like with shivers down my spine. 219 00:10:47,881 --> 00:10:50,081 You sure you weren't dreaming? - Yes. 220 00:10:50,083 --> 00:10:51,816 Okay. Anything else? 221 00:10:51,818 --> 00:10:54,853 Lately, I've been getting phantom bruising on my leg. 222 00:10:54,855 --> 00:10:56,121 Where on the leg would it hit you? 223 00:10:56,123 --> 00:10:59,024 It's like the inner thigh or sometimes, it'll be 224 00:10:59,026 --> 00:11:01,192 on the back of my arms. 225 00:11:01,194 --> 00:11:02,394 I actually have a picture. 226 00:11:06,166 --> 00:11:08,566 Jeez. No dogs in that room with you? 227 00:11:08,568 --> 00:11:09,801 No. 228 00:11:09,803 --> 00:11:11,036 All right. Anything else? 229 00:11:11,038 --> 00:11:14,406 I've had dreams of a family getting murdered. 230 00:11:14,408 --> 00:11:15,807 Really? - Yes. 231 00:11:15,809 --> 00:11:19,010 And then, I also had dreams of my sister 232 00:11:19,012 --> 00:11:21,913 committing suicide in our bathroom. 233 00:11:21,915 --> 00:11:24,282 Which sister? - Brittany. 234 00:11:24,284 --> 00:11:26,384 She hung herself from the shower stall. 235 00:11:26,386 --> 00:11:29,187 She told me it was something I had to let her do, 236 00:11:29,189 --> 00:11:32,223 so I just watched her do it, in my dream. 237 00:11:32,225 --> 00:11:34,392 I mean, is that something you worry about? 238 00:11:34,394 --> 00:11:36,728 She's never been that way, so, for me to just 239 00:11:36,730 --> 00:11:38,496 have that dream was really off the wall. 240 00:11:38,498 --> 00:11:40,098 All right, so, with dreams like that, 241 00:11:40,100 --> 00:11:41,733 it's gotta be tough, sleeping in your bedroom. 242 00:11:41,735 --> 00:11:43,501 I actually don't sleep in here anymore. 243 00:11:43,503 --> 00:11:45,303 I sleep with my mom. 244 00:11:45,305 --> 00:11:47,672 Why? - It's so embarrassing, but, 245 00:11:47,674 --> 00:11:50,341 I- I don't feel safe to sleep in my room. 246 00:11:53,714 --> 00:11:55,480 I'm seeing a dead woman in here. 247 00:11:55,482 --> 00:11:58,283 I think she was murdered. 248 00:11:58,285 --> 00:11:59,851 She comes right through the wall. 249 00:11:59,853 --> 00:12:02,454 She's trying to reach whoever's in this bed. 250 00:12:02,456 --> 00:12:06,591 I know she tries to talk 251 00:12:06,593 --> 00:12:08,626 'cause she saying, "Help me. Help me." 252 00:12:08,628 --> 00:12:12,797 She's trying to get them through dreams. 253 00:12:12,799 --> 00:12:17,936 Feel like she, can get physical? 254 00:12:17,938 --> 00:12:22,307 I'm hearing smacking, enough to wake them up. 255 00:12:22,309 --> 00:12:25,076 I don't like it. 256 00:12:25,078 --> 00:12:26,578 I don't like it. 257 00:12:32,552 --> 00:12:35,220 Seems like everybody in the house is having experiences. 258 00:12:35,222 --> 00:12:36,721 Now, what about yourself? 259 00:12:36,723 --> 00:12:40,558 I've seen a massive shadow in here. 260 00:12:40,560 --> 00:12:41,926 Okay. Can you describe it to me? 261 00:12:41,928 --> 00:12:45,096 It was huge. It almost touched the ceiling, 262 00:12:45,098 --> 00:12:46,998 basically took up the whole wall. 263 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:48,500 How are you sleeping at night? 264 00:12:48,502 --> 00:12:50,769 I do suffer from anxiety. 265 00:12:50,771 --> 00:12:53,104 So, my mind races at night. 266 00:12:53,106 --> 00:12:54,672 I think of everything and nothing, 267 00:12:54,674 --> 00:12:57,442 all at the same time. 268 00:12:57,444 --> 00:12:59,544 What do you think is here? 269 00:12:59,546 --> 00:13:04,048 I think whatever is here just messes with us 270 00:13:04,050 --> 00:13:05,216 in different ways, 271 00:13:05,218 --> 00:13:07,986 brings out the worst in people. 272 00:13:07,988 --> 00:13:09,387 We were once so happy 273 00:13:09,389 --> 00:13:12,457 and our family's being torn apart. 274 00:13:12,459 --> 00:13:14,692 Okay. It upsets you? 275 00:13:14,694 --> 00:13:16,628 Yes. 276 00:13:16,630 --> 00:13:17,629 You okay? 277 00:13:21,668 --> 00:13:26,971 For the living and the dead, this is just a terrible place. 278 00:13:26,973 --> 00:13:30,441 I don't know how they can be in here. 279 00:13:30,443 --> 00:13:32,944 Like it's physically painful to be in here. 280 00:13:32,946 --> 00:13:35,680 And it's all depression, 281 00:13:35,682 --> 00:13:39,884 depression, horrible, horrible depression. 282 00:13:39,886 --> 00:13:42,854 This room is completely filled with it, 283 00:13:42,856 --> 00:13:45,089 like just this black goop. 284 00:13:45,091 --> 00:13:49,327 This black goop is literally coming out of the walls. 285 00:13:49,329 --> 00:13:53,965 - So what is this? - It seems to be a collection 286 00:13:53,967 --> 00:13:58,536 of negative thoughts, feelings, and emotions 287 00:13:58,538 --> 00:14:04,809 that are pushed out of a living person. 288 00:14:07,881 --> 00:14:12,584 This kind of negativity can cause like 289 00:14:12,586 --> 00:14:17,355 mentally illnesses, physical illnesses. 290 00:14:17,357 --> 00:14:21,059 It could cause them to do and act irrationally. 291 00:14:22,963 --> 00:14:24,329 It's really bad. 292 00:14:30,837 --> 00:14:33,771 So, Ashley, you're the girl that broke your dad's leg. 293 00:14:33,773 --> 00:14:35,807 That right? - Yeah. 294 00:14:35,809 --> 00:14:37,342 Now, you know he doesn't blame you. 295 00:14:37,344 --> 00:14:40,211 He blames the paranormal. 296 00:14:40,213 --> 00:14:41,379 Yeah. 297 00:14:41,381 --> 00:14:43,214 Do you agree with that? 298 00:14:43,216 --> 00:14:46,484 He was acting pretty weird that day, so. 299 00:14:46,486 --> 00:14:50,221 Okay. Your family, you think they're in danger? 300 00:14:50,223 --> 00:14:52,357 Yeah. I believe wholeheartedly 301 00:14:52,359 --> 00:14:54,993 that they're in danger. 302 00:14:54,995 --> 00:14:56,561 You've had experiences, I'm assuming. 303 00:14:56,563 --> 00:14:58,229 Yes. I've had many. 304 00:14:58,231 --> 00:14:59,964 Why don't you tell me about some of 'em? 305 00:14:59,966 --> 00:15:02,634 The night that my boyfriend 306 00:15:02,636 --> 00:15:04,402 had proposed to me, 307 00:15:04,404 --> 00:15:07,105 when I came home that night, 308 00:15:07,107 --> 00:15:08,873 I was going to bed - Okay. 309 00:15:08,875 --> 00:15:13,544 and, when I got up, about 3:00 am, 310 00:15:13,546 --> 00:15:16,347 my pants were off 311 00:15:16,349 --> 00:15:19,484 and they were placed by my pillow. 312 00:15:19,486 --> 00:15:21,352 So, was your boyfriend here with you? 313 00:15:21,354 --> 00:15:23,187 - No. - So you were in bed alone? 314 00:15:26,493 --> 00:15:29,594 Okay. You okay? 315 00:15:29,596 --> 00:15:33,598 Yeah. I'll be okay. 316 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:36,367 I'm sorry, sweetie. 317 00:15:36,369 --> 00:15:39,304 I couldn't even imagine waking up and seeing that. 318 00:15:39,306 --> 00:15:44,575 There were bruises on my thighs, too. 319 00:15:44,577 --> 00:15:46,945 I showed my mom. 320 00:15:46,947 --> 00:15:48,947 They really freaked her out. 321 00:15:48,949 --> 00:15:50,448 Yeah. 322 00:15:50,450 --> 00:15:52,450 And then, you know, then, 323 00:15:52,452 --> 00:15:54,986 that's when the blowup with my dad happened. 324 00:15:58,758 --> 00:16:01,125 What do you think's going on in this house? 325 00:16:01,127 --> 00:16:03,094 I don't know, honestly. 326 00:16:03,096 --> 00:16:05,396 I just know, whatever it is, it's bad. 327 00:16:19,312 --> 00:16:21,579 Kaufman is small-town America. 328 00:16:21,581 --> 00:16:23,648 This place is like Mayberry. 329 00:16:23,650 --> 00:16:25,016 So, when I asked a genealogist 330 00:16:25,018 --> 00:16:27,085 to look into the property for me, 331 00:16:27,087 --> 00:16:29,253 she said she already knew all about it 332 00:16:29,255 --> 00:16:30,788 and that one of the original families 333 00:16:30,790 --> 00:16:32,390 had a riches-to-rags story 334 00:16:32,392 --> 00:16:34,158 I'm definitely gonna wanna hear about. 335 00:16:38,932 --> 00:16:41,632 So, Rebecca, before we get to this riches-to-rags story, 336 00:16:41,634 --> 00:16:44,168 who were the original owners and when did they 337 00:16:44,170 --> 00:16:46,104 actually purchase the land I'm investigating? 338 00:16:46,106 --> 00:16:47,805 The original owner of this property 339 00:16:47,807 --> 00:16:49,574 was Thomas Shannon. 340 00:16:49,576 --> 00:16:53,911 He purchased over 1,100 acres in 1882. 341 00:16:53,913 --> 00:16:55,179 So what did he do with it? 342 00:16:55,181 --> 00:16:57,015 He farmed this property. 343 00:16:57,017 --> 00:16:59,017 So, even though they didn't have the easiest time, 344 00:16:59,019 --> 00:17:01,319 they were able to have a prosperous farm 345 00:17:01,321 --> 00:17:02,987 in this place. - Okay. So what do you mean by, 346 00:17:02,989 --> 00:17:04,222 "They didn't have the easiest time"? 347 00:17:04,224 --> 00:17:07,759 Three of Thomas Shannon's children, and his wife, died 348 00:17:07,761 --> 00:17:09,694 in a very short period of time. 349 00:17:09,696 --> 00:17:11,029 While they were on that property? 350 00:17:11,031 --> 00:17:13,231 Correct. Thomas Shannon, himself, 351 00:17:13,233 --> 00:17:14,799 actually died on the property as well, 352 00:17:14,801 --> 00:17:16,501 in 1906. 353 00:17:16,503 --> 00:17:17,935 Okay. What'd he die of? 354 00:17:17,937 --> 00:17:19,470 Well, we can see in his death certificate 355 00:17:19,472 --> 00:17:22,740 right here, basically, he died of exhaustion. 356 00:17:22,742 --> 00:17:24,108 Exhaustion? 357 00:17:24,110 --> 00:17:26,844 So how old was he at the time of his death? 358 00:17:26,846 --> 00:17:28,946 - He was 66. - All right. 359 00:17:28,948 --> 00:17:31,716 So, now, Thomas Shannon is dead. Who gets the property? 360 00:17:31,718 --> 00:17:33,751 Well, it changes hands a couple times 361 00:17:33,753 --> 00:17:36,687 and it ends up with his grandson Shannon Jones. 362 00:17:36,689 --> 00:17:38,489 All right. So now, the grandson has the property. 363 00:17:38,491 --> 00:17:40,024 What's he wind up doing with it? 364 00:17:40,026 --> 00:17:42,727 Well, he's not able to hold on to the property. 365 00:17:42,729 --> 00:17:44,362 Unfortunately, he doesn't seem to have 366 00:17:44,364 --> 00:17:46,931 the capitalist gift of his grandfather 367 00:17:46,933 --> 00:17:49,333 and, from this date in 1922, 368 00:17:49,335 --> 00:17:53,471 we see him selling the property off. 369 00:17:53,473 --> 00:17:55,907 All right. So what winds up happening with Jones? 370 00:17:55,909 --> 00:17:58,176 Shannon Jones dies of a heart attack, 371 00:17:58,178 --> 00:18:00,278 actually, in 1948. 372 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:03,147 So he's 55, which is young. 373 00:18:03,149 --> 00:18:05,650 And the doctor mentions it's from overwork. 374 00:18:05,652 --> 00:18:06,984 Yeah. I see that on there. 375 00:18:06,986 --> 00:18:08,286 Basically, he worked himself to death. 376 00:18:08,288 --> 00:18:11,823 Yes. 377 00:18:11,825 --> 00:18:17,829 I see an angry man in his 30s or 40s. 378 00:18:17,831 --> 00:18:21,399 I would think it was between 1930 and 1950s? 379 00:18:21,401 --> 00:18:26,037 And he was out and there was nothing, nothing, nothing, 380 00:18:26,039 --> 00:18:29,307 except for dirt, a lot of dirt, 381 00:18:29,309 --> 00:18:33,845 and he's freaking the **** out. 382 00:18:33,847 --> 00:18:37,782 He started screaming and yelling that he can't do it anymore. 383 00:18:37,784 --> 00:18:38,983 He had money. 384 00:18:38,985 --> 00:18:40,551 I just see the bank. 385 00:18:40,553 --> 00:18:45,289 But then, I see all these papers and someone -- on a desk -- 386 00:18:45,291 --> 00:18:46,791 and someone's taking a stamp 387 00:18:46,793 --> 00:18:49,560 and stamping the word "Bank" on these papers. 388 00:18:49,562 --> 00:18:53,064 So it's one after the other, Bank, Bank, Bank. 389 00:18:53,066 --> 00:18:55,466 Then, he thinks, "I'm gonna **** shoot myself." 390 00:18:58,905 --> 00:19:01,072 So far, I've got a house full of women who say 391 00:19:01,074 --> 00:19:03,441 they're getting physically attacked on a property 392 00:19:03,443 --> 00:19:06,377 that's seen at least five deaths. 393 00:19:06,379 --> 00:19:08,913 But I wanna see if there's anything else. 394 00:19:08,915 --> 00:19:11,682 Searching through old records, I find Charlie Ice, 395 00:19:11,684 --> 00:19:13,885 one of the property's previous owners. 396 00:19:13,887 --> 00:19:16,687 Turns out Charlie had some dirty laundry. 397 00:19:16,689 --> 00:19:19,957 Weeks after his wife died, he married her young caretaker. 398 00:19:22,495 --> 00:19:23,861 I'm on my way to meet a local 399 00:19:23,863 --> 00:19:26,597 who knew everyone involved in this scandal and she says 400 00:19:26,599 --> 00:19:30,368 the nurse was volatile, unstable, and violent. 401 00:19:34,340 --> 00:19:36,807 I understand that you grew up in this town 402 00:19:36,809 --> 00:19:39,343 and you knew Charlie Ice, or knew of him. 403 00:19:39,345 --> 00:19:44,048 Yes. This is a photo of Charlie. 404 00:19:44,050 --> 00:19:46,584 This is his first wife, Opal. 405 00:19:48,688 --> 00:19:50,321 So, when does Charlie Ice 406 00:19:50,323 --> 00:19:52,356 wind up getting my client's property? 407 00:19:52,358 --> 00:19:53,991 1953. 408 00:19:53,993 --> 00:19:55,459 So, take me through this scandal. 409 00:19:55,461 --> 00:19:57,461 What happened? 410 00:19:57,463 --> 00:20:00,131 This is Mary and, evidently, he had been 411 00:20:00,133 --> 00:20:03,768 having an affair with her for quite a while. 412 00:20:03,770 --> 00:20:06,837 It seems as though he had a love child. 413 00:20:06,839 --> 00:20:09,540 A love child? How do we know that? 414 00:20:09,542 --> 00:20:12,877 Because his name is on that birth certificate. 415 00:20:12,879 --> 00:20:15,012 Okay. Yeah. He's the father on here. 416 00:20:15,014 --> 00:20:16,647 How old was Charlie, at the time? 417 00:20:16,649 --> 00:20:19,116 Charlie is 44. 418 00:20:19,118 --> 00:20:21,052 Mary is 20. 419 00:20:21,054 --> 00:20:24,755 When Opal gets sick in 1968, 420 00:20:24,757 --> 00:20:29,727 he employs Mary to take care of Opal. 421 00:20:29,729 --> 00:20:32,663 She and the child move in. 422 00:20:32,665 --> 00:20:34,832 You're kidding me. 423 00:20:34,834 --> 00:20:36,133 All right, so I know Opal dies. 424 00:20:36,135 --> 00:20:38,636 When and what did she die of? 425 00:20:38,638 --> 00:20:42,039 She dies in 1968, at the age of 58, 426 00:20:42,041 --> 00:20:46,410 from a blood clot in the lung. 427 00:20:46,412 --> 00:20:48,112 Three weeks later, 428 00:20:48,114 --> 00:20:52,350 Charlie marries Mary Louise Winkler. 429 00:20:52,352 --> 00:20:55,386 Okay. How's that go for them? 430 00:20:55,388 --> 00:20:59,390 Well, evidently, not as he had planned. 431 00:20:59,392 --> 00:21:02,860 She had a temper, she had outbursts, 432 00:21:02,862 --> 00:21:05,630 and sometimes, she was violent. 433 00:21:05,632 --> 00:21:07,398 All right. So, how long are these two married? 434 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:08,933 Seven years. 435 00:21:08,935 --> 00:21:11,636 He died suddenly of a heart attack. 436 00:21:11,638 --> 00:21:13,571 All right. So do we know if Mary's still alive? 437 00:21:13,573 --> 00:21:19,010 She died in 2013, of Alzheimer's. 438 00:21:21,147 --> 00:21:23,481 I'm getting a female. 439 00:21:23,483 --> 00:21:26,417 And I'm hearing "mother," mother and grandmother. 440 00:21:26,419 --> 00:21:27,818 I'm wondering like if this is somebody 441 00:21:27,820 --> 00:21:32,290 who just lived here and recently died here. 442 00:21:32,292 --> 00:21:38,129 I wanna say like maybe late 30s to like, you know, 50. 443 00:21:38,131 --> 00:21:40,364 This person is scary. 444 00:21:42,001 --> 00:21:45,903 They're extremely abusive. 445 00:21:45,905 --> 00:21:47,705 There's a physical illness, though, 446 00:21:47,707 --> 00:21:51,208 that is involving their head, that's bad. 447 00:22:16,859 --> 00:22:19,059 One other thing caught my eye in research: 448 00:22:19,061 --> 00:22:21,128 a young schoolteacher who was brutally murdered 449 00:22:21,130 --> 00:22:22,362 on the side of the road 450 00:22:22,364 --> 00:22:24,431 right near Larry and Denise's property. 451 00:22:24,433 --> 00:22:26,566 Now, I don't know if this is gonna help my case, 452 00:22:26,568 --> 00:22:28,669 but I'm meeting with the Kaufman County Sheriff 453 00:22:28,671 --> 00:22:29,870 to see exactly what happened. 454 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:39,880 So, Sheriff, before we get to the actual homicide, 455 00:22:39,882 --> 00:22:41,648 what do we know about the victim? 456 00:22:41,650 --> 00:22:43,550 Her name was Linda Jane Phillips 457 00:22:43,552 --> 00:22:46,653 and I have a picture of her. 458 00:22:46,655 --> 00:22:49,256 She was 26 years of age. 459 00:22:49,258 --> 00:22:50,323 She graduated from 460 00:22:50,325 --> 00:22:54,261 North Texas State University in 1966 461 00:22:54,263 --> 00:22:57,230 and subsequently became a schoolteacher in Dallas. 462 00:22:57,232 --> 00:22:59,533 Okay. - She was teaching in Dallas 463 00:22:59,535 --> 00:23:01,668 and living in Dallas, but still, apparently, 464 00:23:01,670 --> 00:23:04,171 had a very close relationship with her family 465 00:23:04,173 --> 00:23:06,673 and would still spend the summers here. 466 00:23:12,414 --> 00:23:14,448 I'm seeing the murdered woman again. 467 00:23:17,653 --> 00:23:20,387 And I got the name either Linda or Lily with her, 468 00:23:20,389 --> 00:23:23,056 something with an L -- Leelee? 469 00:23:23,058 --> 00:23:26,693 She was between 25 and 35 years old, very small. 470 00:23:26,695 --> 00:23:28,729 She was superthin 471 00:23:28,731 --> 00:23:34,701 and she's all kinds of scared and pissed. 472 00:23:34,703 --> 00:23:35,902 So, take me through the night of the murder. 473 00:23:35,904 --> 00:23:37,003 What happened? 474 00:23:37,005 --> 00:23:38,739 August 8th of 1970, 475 00:23:38,741 --> 00:23:42,542 she attended a wedding party in Dallas 476 00:23:42,544 --> 00:23:44,511 and subsequently called her parents 477 00:23:44,513 --> 00:23:47,047 at about 10:30 and told them 478 00:23:47,049 --> 00:23:48,248 she would not be coming home. 479 00:23:48,250 --> 00:23:50,450 She was gonna stay with a girlfriend. 480 00:23:50,452 --> 00:23:53,120 She never arrived there. 481 00:23:53,122 --> 00:23:55,288 The car was found 482 00:23:55,290 --> 00:23:57,524 during the search on the 9th of August. 483 00:23:57,526 --> 00:23:58,592 Okay. 484 00:23:58,594 --> 00:24:00,127 And then, 485 00:24:00,129 --> 00:24:02,529 approximately 20 hours later, 486 00:24:02,531 --> 00:24:03,864 her body was found, 487 00:24:03,866 --> 00:24:05,599 approximately 3 miles from there. 488 00:24:08,904 --> 00:24:12,339 26 stab wounds. 489 00:24:12,341 --> 00:24:14,107 "Lacerations of Neck & Abdomen." 490 00:24:17,112 --> 00:24:18,612 Jeez. 491 00:24:18,614 --> 00:24:22,749 Subsequent investigation and autopsy revealed 492 00:24:22,751 --> 00:24:24,718 that she'd been sexually assaulted. 493 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:26,319 Anybody arrested for this? 494 00:24:26,321 --> 00:24:29,156 14 years later, in 1984, 495 00:24:29,158 --> 00:24:32,058 the self-confessed mass murderer 496 00:24:32,060 --> 00:24:34,294 named Henry Lee Lucas confessed to it. 497 00:24:34,296 --> 00:24:36,196 I know Henry Lee Lucas. 498 00:24:36,198 --> 00:24:37,697 He confessed to a lot of murders, this guy. 499 00:24:37,699 --> 00:24:38,899 He did. 500 00:24:38,901 --> 00:24:40,200 What was your impression? 501 00:24:40,202 --> 00:24:41,701 He was a liar. 502 00:24:41,703 --> 00:24:44,004 What's your opinion on it? Do you think Henry Lee did it? 503 00:24:44,006 --> 00:24:45,772 I don't believe he did. 504 00:24:45,774 --> 00:24:47,774 Okay. - There's no evidence 505 00:24:47,776 --> 00:24:49,176 that he did it, other than his word, 506 00:24:49,178 --> 00:24:53,046 and obviously, his word is not not good. 507 00:24:53,048 --> 00:24:54,948 So the killer could still be out there. 508 00:24:54,950 --> 00:24:56,183 Yes. 509 00:24:56,185 --> 00:24:57,450 Okay. 510 00:25:03,292 --> 00:25:06,793 She's so wrapped up in how she **** died. 511 00:25:06,795 --> 00:25:09,529 It was somewhere in Texas. 512 00:25:09,531 --> 00:25:12,032 And she was wearing a really pretty dress. 513 00:25:12,034 --> 00:25:15,468 Boyfriend comes in and then, these two big like 514 00:25:15,470 --> 00:25:19,306 strong-arm dudes come in and they took her. 515 00:25:19,308 --> 00:25:21,007 They throw her in this old car. -Aaaagh! 516 00:25:21,009 --> 00:25:23,910 One's in the back and he's **** beating the **** out of her. 517 00:25:25,914 --> 00:25:27,948 There's also 518 00:25:27,950 --> 00:25:30,417 sexual stuff happening. 519 00:25:30,419 --> 00:25:34,154 And she sees her arm being cut off. 520 00:25:34,156 --> 00:25:35,222 With what? 521 00:25:35,224 --> 00:25:37,858 I think it was like a **** knife. 522 00:25:37,860 --> 00:25:40,927 I know they did something here, too. 523 00:25:40,929 --> 00:25:45,398 You know? So this is all **** up, like cut open. 524 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,500 And then, she passed out and then, 525 00:25:47,502 --> 00:25:50,270 they did something to her 526 00:25:50,272 --> 00:25:52,839 neck or head, or something. 527 00:25:52,841 --> 00:25:55,442 Then, they scattered her body parts along the road. 528 00:26:03,886 --> 00:26:06,386 I saw several disturbing things on my walk, 529 00:26:06,388 --> 00:26:09,389 but the bedroom filled with big, black, negative goop 530 00:26:09,391 --> 00:26:12,058 has me the most concerned. 531 00:26:12,060 --> 00:26:13,994 There's this little hallway. 532 00:26:13,996 --> 00:26:16,129 The bedroom door is open. 533 00:26:16,131 --> 00:26:21,468 The room was filled with black, gelatinous stuff. 534 00:26:21,470 --> 00:26:24,304 It's like spilling into the hallway. 535 00:26:28,744 --> 00:26:30,110 Amy, 536 00:26:30,112 --> 00:26:32,379 is this what you saw? 537 00:26:32,381 --> 00:26:33,914 Yes. That's what I saw. 538 00:26:54,136 --> 00:26:57,037 Now that Amy and I have completed our investigations, 539 00:26:57,039 --> 00:26:59,139 we're ready to reveal our findings to each other 540 00:26:59,141 --> 00:27:02,208 and our clients, for the first time. 541 00:27:02,210 --> 00:27:04,811 So, Amy, this case is a bit unusual. 542 00:27:04,813 --> 00:27:07,781 This is Larry. He lives next house over. 543 00:27:07,783 --> 00:27:10,951 This is his estranged wife, Denise. 544 00:27:10,953 --> 00:27:14,654 She lives here with Brittany; 545 00:27:14,656 --> 00:27:19,092 Ashley; and Chelsea, her youngest daughter. 546 00:27:19,094 --> 00:27:21,194 Now, Larry thinks the paranormal activity 547 00:27:21,196 --> 00:27:25,098 ripped his family apart and got him kicked out of the house. 548 00:27:25,100 --> 00:27:27,467 The ladies aren't buying that. 549 00:27:27,469 --> 00:27:29,269 But everyone agrees the activity 550 00:27:29,271 --> 00:27:33,206 is getting worse and more violent and it's gotta stop. 551 00:27:33,208 --> 00:27:34,474 So, now that Amy knows a little bit 552 00:27:34,476 --> 00:27:36,409 about your family and what's going on, 553 00:27:36,411 --> 00:27:39,479 I'm gonna have her describe her walk for us. 554 00:27:39,481 --> 00:27:44,884 Initially, when I got here, I encountered a female 555 00:27:44,886 --> 00:27:48,888 and her situation is that she was murdered. 556 00:27:48,890 --> 00:27:53,960 She is pretty consumed with the way that she died. 557 00:27:53,962 --> 00:27:58,198 I connected with her in the bedroom on the right. 558 00:27:58,200 --> 00:27:59,733 All right, so that's Chelsea's room. 559 00:27:59,735 --> 00:28:00,934 That's the youngest daughter. 560 00:28:00,936 --> 00:28:02,202 Okay. 561 00:28:02,204 --> 00:28:05,772 And I got her specifically trying to make contact 562 00:28:05,774 --> 00:28:08,375 with the individual in that room. 563 00:28:08,377 --> 00:28:11,411 One of the ways she's trying to make contact is 564 00:28:11,413 --> 00:28:13,346 through the living person's dreams. 565 00:28:13,348 --> 00:28:18,952 The other thing is she tries to get physical. 566 00:28:18,954 --> 00:28:21,855 One of the things she was showing me doing was 567 00:28:21,857 --> 00:28:25,759 smacking the person on the bed, trying to wake them up. 568 00:28:25,761 --> 00:28:29,496 She also tries to talk to the person 569 00:28:29,498 --> 00:28:32,432 and is constantly whispering and yelling, 570 00:28:32,434 --> 00:28:35,135 "Help me. Help me. Help me." 571 00:28:35,137 --> 00:28:37,203 Chelsea's so scared to death 572 00:28:37,205 --> 00:28:39,105 of being in that room alone 573 00:28:39,107 --> 00:28:41,775 that she sleeps with me every night. 574 00:28:41,777 --> 00:28:45,145 She's also heard someone say -- I can't remember if it was -- 575 00:28:45,147 --> 00:28:47,747 - "Hey." "Hey." - "Hey"? Or "Hello" or something. 576 00:28:47,749 --> 00:28:50,016 Now, she can get physical, you were saying, right? 577 00:28:50,018 --> 00:28:51,317 Yes. 578 00:28:51,319 --> 00:28:54,320 So I have a picture here of Chelsea's leg 579 00:28:54,322 --> 00:28:57,724 and the bruises she wakes up with. 580 00:28:57,726 --> 00:29:01,494 Yeah. She'll go to sleep and there's nothing there. 581 00:29:01,496 --> 00:29:05,331 and then, she wakes up and there's bruises all over her. 582 00:29:05,333 --> 00:29:08,101 Denise, tell Amy about the nightmare she has. 583 00:29:08,103 --> 00:29:10,537 She's been having a recurring dream 584 00:29:10,539 --> 00:29:12,539 of a murder of a family 585 00:29:12,541 --> 00:29:16,543 and she sees this murder over and over and over. 586 00:29:16,545 --> 00:29:18,611 Interesting. Okay. 587 00:29:18,613 --> 00:29:23,316 If people are coming to her for help, 588 00:29:23,318 --> 00:29:25,752 then she's most likely a physical medium. 589 00:29:28,090 --> 00:29:30,356 She probably has a lot more people that show up, 590 00:29:30,358 --> 00:29:32,525 that she's not aware of. 591 00:29:32,527 --> 00:29:33,726 My god. 592 00:29:33,728 --> 00:29:35,495 So this murdered girl who comes to Chelsea, 593 00:29:35,497 --> 00:29:37,430 did you get anything on her in life? 594 00:29:37,432 --> 00:29:41,034 She looked young, between 25 and 35. 595 00:29:41,036 --> 00:29:43,603 I got that her name was Linda or Lily. 596 00:29:43,605 --> 00:29:46,072 I saw her getting into a fight with her boyfriend. 597 00:29:46,074 --> 00:29:50,643 Then, two men grabbed her, threw her in a car, 598 00:29:50,645 --> 00:29:52,479 and they beat her 599 00:29:52,481 --> 00:29:55,281 and they also sexually assaulted her. 600 00:29:55,283 --> 00:29:56,483 They had a knife. 601 00:29:56,485 --> 00:30:00,320 They cut open her stomach, slit her throat. 602 00:30:00,322 --> 00:30:01,955 And then, they took her body 603 00:30:01,957 --> 00:30:05,191 and they scattered it all over the place. 604 00:30:05,193 --> 00:30:07,727 This is a tiny town. There's not that many murders. 605 00:30:07,729 --> 00:30:10,130 They have one murder that sounds similar. 606 00:30:10,132 --> 00:30:12,165 Almost 50 years ago, a young woman was murdered 607 00:30:12,167 --> 00:30:14,167 only a couple miles from here. 608 00:30:14,169 --> 00:30:16,102 You said her name was Linda or Lily? 609 00:30:16,104 --> 00:30:18,037 Well, the victim in this case, 610 00:30:18,039 --> 00:30:19,706 her name was Linda Jane Phillips 611 00:30:19,708 --> 00:30:21,508 and she was 26 years old. 612 00:30:21,510 --> 00:30:23,710 Her parents live right down the road from here. 613 00:30:23,712 --> 00:30:26,146 So, on August 8, 1970, 614 00:30:26,148 --> 00:30:28,581 Linda went to a wedding party in Dallas. 615 00:30:28,583 --> 00:30:30,283 10:30 that night, she called her parents, 616 00:30:30,285 --> 00:30:32,719 said she was gonna spend the night at a friend's house. 617 00:30:32,721 --> 00:30:34,787 Linda never made it. 618 00:30:34,789 --> 00:30:36,523 A day later, they found her body, 619 00:30:36,525 --> 00:30:38,725 totally stripped naked. 620 00:30:38,727 --> 00:30:42,629 She had been sexually assaulted and stabbed 26 times. 621 00:30:42,631 --> 00:30:44,531 Now, I got her death certificate. 622 00:30:44,533 --> 00:30:47,800 You talked about the stomach? 623 00:30:47,802 --> 00:30:52,205 She was stabbed in the neck and abdomen. 624 00:30:52,207 --> 00:30:55,375 The sheriff I talked to gave me Linda's picture. 625 00:30:55,377 --> 00:30:58,745 Now, do you think that's who you might have seen? 626 00:30:58,747 --> 00:30:59,846 Yes. 627 00:31:04,719 --> 00:31:09,155 The other thing I saw was an elderly male. 628 00:31:09,157 --> 00:31:11,391 He's active in both houses. 629 00:31:11,393 --> 00:31:15,195 I called him the lurker because he's always behind you. 630 00:31:15,197 --> 00:31:17,730 Like you're always feeling someone's right there 631 00:31:17,732 --> 00:31:19,632 and they're watching you. 632 00:31:19,634 --> 00:31:23,036 He doesn't particularly care to be seen, 633 00:31:23,038 --> 00:31:26,606 but if he is, it's more like a black shadow. 634 00:31:26,608 --> 00:31:30,677 The most concerning things is that he seemed to be attached 635 00:31:30,679 --> 00:31:34,881 to someone in the master bedroom 636 00:31:34,883 --> 00:31:37,584 and it's almost like he's obsessed. 637 00:31:37,586 --> 00:31:40,286 And I saw him like sitting on the side of the bed 638 00:31:40,288 --> 00:31:46,092 and like just really lightly caressing the person's face. 639 00:31:46,094 --> 00:31:49,862 Chelsea has seen that. 640 00:31:49,864 --> 00:31:51,965 She has woke up and she has told me. 641 00:31:51,967 --> 00:31:53,199 One night, she said, 642 00:31:53,201 --> 00:31:56,736 "Mom, I saw someone at the end of our bed" 643 00:31:56,738 --> 00:31:58,905 and she said, "I pretended to be asleep 644 00:31:58,907 --> 00:32:02,308 because I did not want to move." 645 00:32:02,310 --> 00:32:04,844 Larry, you've seen shadow figures as well. 646 00:32:04,846 --> 00:32:07,046 The shadow figures that I've seen is 647 00:32:07,048 --> 00:32:09,949 more dark than translucent, 648 00:32:09,951 --> 00:32:12,218 where you couldn't hardly see through it. 649 00:32:12,220 --> 00:32:14,454 Now, you said this guy 650 00:32:14,456 --> 00:32:16,956 likes to touch inappropriately? 651 00:32:16,958 --> 00:32:20,260 Brittany, I want you to tell the story about your sister Ashley. 652 00:32:20,262 --> 00:32:23,563 Yeah. She was asleep in her bed. 653 00:32:23,565 --> 00:32:26,366 She had long pajama pants on 654 00:32:26,368 --> 00:32:28,501 and she woke up 655 00:32:28,503 --> 00:32:30,103 and they were off of her 656 00:32:30,105 --> 00:32:32,538 and she has no clue how they came off of her. 657 00:32:32,540 --> 00:32:34,807 Okay. - When I spoke to her, 658 00:32:34,809 --> 00:32:36,309 she broke down, talking about it. 659 00:32:36,311 --> 00:32:38,177 Now, is that this guy, doing all this? 660 00:32:38,179 --> 00:32:40,780 Yeah. He would be the one. 661 00:32:40,782 --> 00:32:43,449 He's being a little bit more inappropriate than I thought. 662 00:32:47,889 --> 00:32:50,123 Anything else? 663 00:32:50,125 --> 00:32:53,393 I encountered another deceased male. 664 00:32:53,395 --> 00:32:55,895 I got that he did die far away. 665 00:32:55,897 --> 00:32:59,632 I got that he died between 1990 and now. 666 00:32:59,634 --> 00:33:01,668 I got that there was a deep family connection 667 00:33:01,670 --> 00:33:04,504 to a living person in this house 668 00:33:04,506 --> 00:33:06,472 and it felt like there was kind of a cord, 669 00:33:06,474 --> 00:33:09,475 an energetic cord, that was wrapped around him. 670 00:33:09,477 --> 00:33:12,979 So he's being dragged back in unwillingly. 671 00:33:12,981 --> 00:33:14,480 This means that a living person here 672 00:33:14,482 --> 00:33:16,549 is inadvertently trapping him 673 00:33:16,551 --> 00:33:20,320 and they can't really let go of him emotionally. 674 00:33:20,322 --> 00:33:21,988 So we're talking about a dead man with a connection 675 00:33:21,990 --> 00:33:25,291 to a living person here, died around 1990? 676 00:33:25,293 --> 00:33:27,327 Yes. - I hate to even bring this up, 677 00:33:27,329 --> 00:33:30,096 but -- - My stepdad was murdered. 678 00:33:30,098 --> 00:33:31,998 I mean, have you gotten 679 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:33,666 over it? 680 00:33:33,668 --> 00:33:35,735 I've moved on, but, 681 00:33:35,737 --> 00:33:38,104 they've never caught his murderer, so, 682 00:33:38,106 --> 00:33:40,606 it's been kinda hard. 683 00:33:58,927 --> 00:34:03,029 I was afraid this was gonna come up. 684 00:34:03,031 --> 00:34:05,965 I think it's a really difficult situation to be in 685 00:34:05,967 --> 00:34:12,405 because you have an open murder and you want justice for them 686 00:34:12,407 --> 00:34:15,875 and that's something that, unfortunately, 687 00:34:15,877 --> 00:34:20,713 can sometimes keep them kind of earthbound. 688 00:34:20,715 --> 00:34:22,682 So how do I let him go? 689 00:34:22,684 --> 00:34:24,417 Because I wouldn't wish that for him. 690 00:34:28,656 --> 00:34:31,858 So the thing I'm most concerned about was the bedroom 691 00:34:31,860 --> 00:34:34,460 at the end of the hall. It was really bad. 692 00:34:34,462 --> 00:34:36,462 I was only in there for a few minutes. 693 00:34:36,464 --> 00:34:37,830 One of the interesting things 694 00:34:37,832 --> 00:34:40,900 was that the dead even refused to go in there. 695 00:34:40,902 --> 00:34:43,403 That's Brittany's room. 696 00:34:43,405 --> 00:34:46,572 It was physically painful. 697 00:34:46,574 --> 00:34:49,208 Like pain in my ears, 698 00:34:49,210 --> 00:34:52,345 head, headaches, stomach, nausea. 699 00:34:52,347 --> 00:34:53,880 She's always had stomach problems. 700 00:34:53,882 --> 00:34:56,416 I've always had nausea. 701 00:34:56,418 --> 00:35:01,988 I also got depression in there, a lot of sadness. 702 00:35:01,990 --> 00:35:04,724 And the other thing I got is that, when you're in there, 703 00:35:04,726 --> 00:35:07,026 your brain is like fully activated. 704 00:35:07,028 --> 00:35:09,729 Like it's going 100 miles a **** hour. 705 00:35:09,731 --> 00:35:12,999 And, honestly, like I couldn't even think straight. 706 00:35:13,001 --> 00:35:16,302 I go through that every single night. 707 00:35:16,304 --> 00:35:18,171 I think about everything and nothing 708 00:35:18,173 --> 00:35:19,906 at the same time. 709 00:35:19,908 --> 00:35:22,708 All this negative energy has collected on the walls 710 00:35:22,710 --> 00:35:27,346 of your room and formed into this black goop. 711 00:35:27,348 --> 00:35:30,783 And then, I saw it kind of spilling out of that room 712 00:35:30,785 --> 00:35:33,586 and going through the house. 713 00:35:33,588 --> 00:35:38,157 This negative energy is coming from a psychic empath. 714 00:35:38,159 --> 00:35:40,893 So you're the psychic empath. 715 00:35:40,895 --> 00:35:47,500 Everything that you feel, like your emotions and stuff, you... 716 00:35:47,502 --> 00:35:50,603 are having a hard time keeping within you. 717 00:35:50,605 --> 00:35:55,775 It's something that spills out from you energetically. 718 00:35:55,777 --> 00:36:01,581 It can create negative thoughts and negative thought patterns 719 00:36:01,583 --> 00:36:05,585 and it can cause irrational behavior. 720 00:36:05,587 --> 00:36:08,187 Well, talking about irrational behavior, 721 00:36:08,189 --> 00:36:12,959 I mean, he did get his leg broke by your daughter 722 00:36:12,961 --> 00:36:14,160 Ashley. 723 00:36:14,162 --> 00:36:17,396 He did. Yes. 724 00:36:17,398 --> 00:36:20,166 He was talking to her and she didn't wanna hear 725 00:36:20,168 --> 00:36:22,468 what he had to say about her fiancé. 726 00:36:22,470 --> 00:36:24,370 - Okay. - So she got up to leave 727 00:36:24,372 --> 00:36:27,773 and he pushed her down and she fought back 728 00:36:27,775 --> 00:36:29,809 - Okay. - and she broke his leg. 729 00:36:29,811 --> 00:36:31,210 Wow. 730 00:36:31,212 --> 00:36:33,646 It's like something in this house 731 00:36:33,648 --> 00:36:37,216 is trying to drive all the men 732 00:36:37,218 --> 00:36:38,784 out of the house, so that they 733 00:36:38,786 --> 00:36:40,753 can have their way with the women. 734 00:36:40,755 --> 00:36:44,023 And, you know, me and Denise, 735 00:36:44,025 --> 00:36:48,194 something came between us and drew us apart. 736 00:36:48,196 --> 00:36:50,162 Have you guys gone for counseling? 737 00:36:50,164 --> 00:36:51,397 - We did, for -- - Yes, we did. 738 00:36:51,399 --> 00:36:52,598 - You did? - We did, three times, and -- 739 00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:55,201 Three times? Just three sessions? 740 00:36:55,203 --> 00:36:56,469 - Just three sessions. - Yes, three sessions. 741 00:36:56,471 --> 00:36:58,771 What really made me quit 742 00:36:58,773 --> 00:37:01,974 doing counseling was because Larry had told me that, 743 00:37:01,976 --> 00:37:04,243 regardless of what I was gonna do, basically, 744 00:37:04,245 --> 00:37:06,712 he was gonna keep on drinking and I just knew. 745 00:37:06,714 --> 00:37:13,252 I was like "I'm done." 26 years, down the tubes. 746 00:37:13,254 --> 00:37:17,590 You are killing yourself, plain and simple. 747 00:37:17,592 --> 00:37:19,125 Your drinking broke up the marriage 748 00:37:19,127 --> 00:37:23,062 because she loves you and she doesn't want you to die! 749 00:37:23,064 --> 00:37:24,397 So, you need to get help for that, 750 00:37:24,399 --> 00:37:26,165 if you want your family back. 751 00:37:30,271 --> 00:37:32,638 I mean, you worry about him. Don't you? 752 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:33,706 Every day. 753 00:37:38,279 --> 00:37:40,446 Man the **** up and knock it **** off. 754 00:37:40,448 --> 00:37:42,582 It's that simple. 755 00:37:42,584 --> 00:37:46,218 The key is stop drinking, take care of yourself, 756 00:37:46,220 --> 00:37:48,487 because these people love you 757 00:37:48,489 --> 00:37:51,324 and they don't want you to be dead. 758 00:37:51,326 --> 00:37:53,926 Is this black goop making Larry's condition worse? 759 00:37:53,928 --> 00:37:56,262 Yes. 760 00:37:56,264 --> 00:37:59,599 Now, this gelatin thing you described, 761 00:37:59,601 --> 00:38:02,969 does it look that way to you, or to everybody? 762 00:38:02,971 --> 00:38:04,437 I had a sketch done of it. 763 00:38:18,786 --> 00:38:20,886 My god. 764 00:38:20,888 --> 00:38:23,656 You don't see it that way, but you feel that way? 765 00:38:28,896 --> 00:38:30,630 What exactly is this thing? 766 00:38:30,632 --> 00:38:32,131 It's emotions. 767 00:38:32,133 --> 00:38:33,466 Her emotions? 768 00:38:33,468 --> 00:38:36,035 Well, she collects emotions. - So she's absorbing 769 00:38:36,037 --> 00:38:39,238 everybody else's ****, all their energy, 770 00:38:39,240 --> 00:38:40,806 and it's led to this stuff spilling out 771 00:38:40,808 --> 00:38:42,074 all over the house? 772 00:38:42,076 --> 00:38:43,709 Yes. 773 00:38:43,711 --> 00:38:47,413 Aw, honey. It's okay. 774 00:39:07,669 --> 00:39:09,235 So, Larry, you called us in because you thought 775 00:39:09,237 --> 00:39:10,803 the paranormal broke up your marriage. 776 00:39:10,805 --> 00:39:12,204 Well, that's not the case. 777 00:39:12,206 --> 00:39:14,340 But, turns out, it's a good thing you did call us 778 00:39:14,342 --> 00:39:17,176 'cause your kids are under attack. 779 00:39:17,178 --> 00:39:18,711 Now, to find out what you can do about it, 780 00:39:18,713 --> 00:39:21,047 I'm gonna turn it over to Amy. 781 00:39:21,049 --> 00:39:25,084 There's family issues and then, there's paranormal issues, 782 00:39:25,086 --> 00:39:28,854 which do go hand-in-hand, oftentimes. 783 00:39:28,856 --> 00:39:31,123 There are dead that are attached to this location, 784 00:39:31,125 --> 00:39:33,125 for one reason or another 785 00:39:33,127 --> 00:39:36,829 and for them, let's go ahead and move them on. 786 00:39:36,831 --> 00:39:39,398 What I would like to see happen is a medium come out 787 00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:41,133 to move on the dead 788 00:39:41,135 --> 00:39:44,570 that are attached to this specific location. 789 00:39:44,572 --> 00:39:46,272 What about Denise's stepdad? 790 00:39:46,274 --> 00:39:49,608 What I would like to see is you have a medium reading 791 00:39:49,610 --> 00:39:51,711 just for him. - Okay. 792 00:39:51,713 --> 00:39:55,314 The second thing is for Brittany. 793 00:39:55,316 --> 00:39:58,217 To prevent any more of that stuff from forming 794 00:39:58,219 --> 00:40:01,287 around you or in your physical environment, 795 00:40:01,289 --> 00:40:04,423 start journaling every single night. 796 00:40:04,425 --> 00:40:06,692 Well, the other thing is 797 00:40:06,694 --> 00:40:09,462 for you to put these in your bath. 798 00:40:09,464 --> 00:40:12,732 It's a mixture of herbs and crystals 799 00:40:12,734 --> 00:40:17,737 and this is going to cleanse away negative emotions, 800 00:40:17,739 --> 00:40:21,006 the stuff that's accumulated. 801 00:40:21,008 --> 00:40:24,844 So, for Chelsea, at least one time a week, 802 00:40:24,846 --> 00:40:28,748 she has to let the dead come through, has to. 803 00:40:28,750 --> 00:40:31,851 It's not fun, but, the dead need to have access to her. 804 00:40:31,853 --> 00:40:34,720 She's a medium and so, she's gonna learn 805 00:40:34,722 --> 00:40:36,922 setting appropriate boundaries with them. 806 00:40:36,924 --> 00:40:40,359 But if she doesn't do the once- a- week thing with the dead, 807 00:40:40,361 --> 00:40:46,232 they'll slam her, and they'll slam her hard. 808 00:40:46,234 --> 00:40:48,801 The last thing that I wanted to say: 809 00:40:48,803 --> 00:40:51,270 I would like the entire family 810 00:40:51,272 --> 00:40:53,906 to go for family counseling. 811 00:40:53,908 --> 00:40:56,075 Ev-er-y-one. 812 00:40:56,077 --> 00:40:59,678 This is extremely important. 813 00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:03,249 I think it'll lead you on a very interesting path. 814 00:41:03,251 --> 00:41:05,518 So, Larry, I know you wanted us 815 00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:08,821 to try to help your marriage, with that, but, 816 00:41:08,823 --> 00:41:10,923 we did help your daughters out. 817 00:41:10,925 --> 00:41:12,258 I mean, I can't blame everything 818 00:41:12,260 --> 00:41:13,559 on everybody else. 819 00:41:13,561 --> 00:41:17,263 I gotta look at myself, too, you know. 820 00:41:17,265 --> 00:41:19,265 Did we ever get more than I thought we would get. 821 00:41:19,267 --> 00:41:22,735 We were just hoping to not be crazy. 822 00:41:22,737 --> 00:41:24,737 It's overwhelming, 823 00:41:24,739 --> 00:41:27,206 but, at the same time, I'm relieved. 824 00:41:30,211 --> 00:41:31,811 The dead are causing a lot of issues 825 00:41:31,813 --> 00:41:33,279 for Larry and his family, 826 00:41:33,281 --> 00:41:37,583 but I believe their problems go much deeper than the paranormal. 827 00:41:37,585 --> 00:41:40,286 With the help of a medium, the dead will be set free 828 00:41:40,288 --> 00:41:41,654 and, with the help of counseling, 829 00:41:41,656 --> 00:41:43,756 so will the living, as this dark, 830 00:41:43,758 --> 00:41:45,925 negative goop will begin to dissipate. 831 00:41:45,975 --> 00:41:50,525 Repair and Synchronization by Easy Subtitles Synchronizer 1.0.0.0 62479

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