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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:10,177 --> 00:00:12,611 This is where the dead roam. 2 00:00:12,613 --> 00:00:15,647 Really not good for kids here, not good at all. 3 00:00:15,649 --> 00:00:18,250 We want to protect 'em. It makes me feel terrible. 4 00:00:18,252 --> 00:00:21,754 Somebody's being stabbed in the stomach. 5 00:00:21,756 --> 00:00:23,389 Are you having any kind of health issues? 6 00:00:23,391 --> 00:00:25,157 The stabbing pains in my back. 7 00:00:25,993 --> 00:00:29,395 The shadow people are **** killing people here. 8 00:00:29,397 --> 00:00:31,897 This house is not a home. 9 00:00:31,899 --> 00:00:34,066 I just hear death. 10 00:00:34,068 --> 00:00:36,368 My name is Amy Allan. 11 00:00:36,370 --> 00:00:37,703 God. 12 00:00:37,705 --> 00:00:39,805 It's like, "I'm going to get you." 13 00:00:39,807 --> 00:00:40,973 I see dead people. 14 00:00:40,975 --> 00:00:42,174 Her face was all demonic. 15 00:00:42,176 --> 00:00:43,976 I speak to dead people... 16 00:00:43,978 --> 00:00:46,879 He's like, "You think you can stop me? Because you can't." 17 00:00:46,881 --> 00:00:48,280 ...and they speak to me. 18 00:00:48,282 --> 00:00:50,249 - What is he trying to do? - Kill them. 19 00:00:50,251 --> 00:00:52,951 But there's only one way to know if my findings are real. 20 00:00:52,953 --> 00:00:54,853 Something happened. Bam. Bam. Bam. 21 00:00:54,855 --> 00:00:56,021 I rely on my partner. 22 00:00:56,023 --> 00:00:57,556 I'm Steve DiShiavi. 23 00:00:57,558 --> 00:00:59,825 I'm a retired New York City homicide detective. 24 00:00:59,827 --> 00:01:01,293 Am I seeing what I think I'm seeing? 25 00:01:01,295 --> 00:01:04,897 I know every person, every house has secrets. 26 00:01:04,899 --> 00:01:06,799 - They're everywhere. - It's my job to reveal them. 27 00:01:06,801 --> 00:01:09,601 This guy's got the markings of a serial killer. 28 00:01:09,603 --> 00:01:11,970 But Steve and I never speak... 29 00:01:11,972 --> 00:01:14,039 We never communicate during an investigation... 30 00:01:14,041 --> 00:01:15,307 ...until the very end... 31 00:01:15,309 --> 00:01:16,909 Is this dead guy doing that to her? 32 00:01:16,911 --> 00:01:18,710 When we uncover if it's safe for you to stay... 33 00:01:18,712 --> 00:01:20,879 That's it. 34 00:01:20,881 --> 00:01:22,781 ...or time to get out. 35 00:01:22,783 --> 00:01:26,051 Somebody's gonna die over there soon. Yeah. 36 00:01:41,268 --> 00:01:43,135 I'm in Spartanburg, South Carolina. 37 00:01:43,137 --> 00:01:45,971 It's about 80 miles west of Charlotte. 38 00:01:45,973 --> 00:01:47,840 So I got a call from a woman named Donna, 39 00:01:47,842 --> 00:01:49,641 who's a mother of three. 40 00:01:49,643 --> 00:01:52,244 Now she lives in a big, beautiful, suburban house. 41 00:01:52,246 --> 00:01:55,147 Trouble is, she says the whole family's being terrorized. 42 00:01:55,149 --> 00:01:58,884 But her special needs daughter is getting the worst of it. 43 00:01:58,886 --> 00:02:00,552 She sounded really bad on the phone 44 00:02:00,554 --> 00:02:01,854 and says if we can't help her, 45 00:02:01,856 --> 00:02:03,589 someone's gonna get seriously hurt. 46 00:02:09,630 --> 00:02:12,698 Before Amy arrives, 47 00:02:12,700 --> 00:02:15,567 I clear the area of any leading information, 48 00:02:15,569 --> 00:02:17,903 removing religious symbols, 49 00:02:17,905 --> 00:02:20,372 artwork, and other personal items 50 00:02:20,374 --> 00:02:23,542 that could influence her findings. 51 00:02:23,544 --> 00:02:25,544 When I'm done, 52 00:02:25,546 --> 00:02:28,347 the location will be ready for tonight's walk. 53 00:02:41,362 --> 00:02:45,163 I'm having feelings of very deep sadness 54 00:02:45,165 --> 00:02:48,600 and uncontrollable shaking and fear. 55 00:02:48,602 --> 00:02:51,236 So much, pain and crying. 56 00:02:52,873 --> 00:02:54,606 Terrible, terrible. 57 00:02:57,711 --> 00:03:01,213 And I hear this house is not a home. 58 00:03:11,158 --> 00:03:12,925 So, Donna, when we spoke on the phone, 59 00:03:12,927 --> 00:03:14,826 you were obviously upset. 60 00:03:14,828 --> 00:03:16,695 What's goin' on? - We moved here, 61 00:03:16,697 --> 00:03:19,565 and it's -- it's been not what I dreamed about. 62 00:03:19,567 --> 00:03:24,670 We, all five of us, sleep here in the living room. 63 00:03:24,672 --> 00:03:26,738 You're tellin' me the entire family's sleepin' in this room? 64 00:03:26,740 --> 00:03:29,775 Right, 'cause no one wants to sleep upstairs. 65 00:03:29,777 --> 00:03:31,910 We all feel better together. 66 00:03:31,912 --> 00:03:33,612 Give me an idea of what you guys are goin' through. 67 00:03:33,614 --> 00:03:36,081 Well, we hear, um, footsteps. 68 00:03:36,083 --> 00:03:38,817 Um, we hear unexplainable noises. 69 00:03:38,819 --> 00:03:43,388 Um, we see shadows everywhere, apparitions, everything. 70 00:03:43,390 --> 00:03:45,223 Everything that you can think of, 71 00:03:45,225 --> 00:03:47,426 it seems like we have seen in every room. 72 00:03:47,428 --> 00:03:50,462 People are being scratched and just feeling 73 00:03:50,464 --> 00:03:52,497 like they're being touched. 74 00:03:52,499 --> 00:03:54,366 How are you living like this? 75 00:03:54,368 --> 00:03:56,602 It's very exhausting. 76 00:03:56,604 --> 00:03:58,770 And when we moved here, I was perfectly healthy. 77 00:03:58,772 --> 00:04:01,740 And -- and now I'm just sick all the time, 78 00:04:01,742 --> 00:04:04,042 kidney stones, cervical cancer. 79 00:04:04,044 --> 00:04:09,214 It's gall bladder, migraines, depression. 80 00:04:09,216 --> 00:04:11,717 It's one thing after another. 81 00:04:11,719 --> 00:04:14,152 I'm just ready for it to be over any way it has to be. 82 00:04:14,154 --> 00:04:15,587 Whatever, it has to be done. 83 00:04:15,589 --> 00:04:17,055 Okay. 84 00:04:22,096 --> 00:04:23,562 I feel sick in here. 85 00:04:23,564 --> 00:04:26,565 I feel nauseous, awful, terrible. 86 00:04:26,567 --> 00:04:30,135 I would think the living would **** feel sick here. 87 00:04:30,137 --> 00:04:34,973 There'd be a lot of nausea, anxiety, and anger. 88 00:04:37,177 --> 00:04:41,546 I see an angry man. 89 00:04:41,548 --> 00:04:44,349 He hurt people. 90 00:04:44,351 --> 00:04:45,784 He's scary. 91 00:04:48,355 --> 00:04:52,391 The living, they hear the guy. 92 00:04:52,393 --> 00:04:55,527 They hear walking, up and down the stairs, 93 00:04:55,529 --> 00:04:56,762 all over the place. 94 00:04:56,764 --> 00:04:59,865 And I do feel like, when they're sleeping, 95 00:04:59,867 --> 00:05:01,133 I feel like, 96 00:05:01,135 --> 00:05:04,436 he does inappropriate things to the women, 97 00:05:04,438 --> 00:05:07,005 um, very inappropriate. 98 00:05:07,007 --> 00:05:10,042 Um, very, very inappropriate. 99 00:05:10,044 --> 00:05:12,177 I think he's the one making people sick. 100 00:05:12,179 --> 00:05:13,945 I don't want to go upstairs. 101 00:05:18,419 --> 00:05:19,584 All right, so, Donna, 102 00:05:19,586 --> 00:05:21,119 who exactly lives in the house with you? 103 00:05:21,121 --> 00:05:23,622 Well, this is my family. 104 00:05:23,624 --> 00:05:26,324 - Okay. Who's here? - This is Tyler. He's 21. 105 00:05:26,326 --> 00:05:28,527 - Okay. - Austin's 15. 106 00:05:28,529 --> 00:05:30,062 Abbie is 11. 107 00:05:30,064 --> 00:05:32,698 And that's me and my husband. 108 00:05:32,700 --> 00:05:35,200 Now you mentioned on the phone Abbie has a condition. 109 00:05:35,202 --> 00:05:38,804 Right. She was diagnosed with selective mutism. 110 00:05:38,806 --> 00:05:42,674 And it's basically, um, an anxiety disorder. 111 00:05:42,676 --> 00:05:45,877 When she's asked anything that actually bothers her, 112 00:05:45,879 --> 00:05:48,280 if it's any tension, 113 00:05:48,282 --> 00:05:51,883 um, she -- she shuts down and she's not able to talk. 114 00:05:51,885 --> 00:05:55,353 Do you think it's caused by what's goin' on in the house? 115 00:05:55,355 --> 00:05:58,090 Or do you think it's something she was born with? 116 00:05:59,727 --> 00:06:02,360 It seems to me that it may be the cause. 117 00:06:02,362 --> 00:06:03,562 And I think there's things like, 118 00:06:03,564 --> 00:06:05,063 she doesn't want to ever go in the bathroom. 119 00:06:05,065 --> 00:06:07,165 And I think there is something more 120 00:06:07,167 --> 00:06:09,501 that she's not able to tell me about. 121 00:06:09,503 --> 00:06:12,070 She'll stay in the bed, she'll cover her head up, 122 00:06:12,072 --> 00:06:14,973 and she just will not talk for a day. 123 00:06:14,975 --> 00:06:17,142 There's nothing to console her. You can't do anything. 124 00:06:17,144 --> 00:06:18,677 And it just broke my heart. 125 00:06:18,679 --> 00:06:20,078 That's very concerning for me 126 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:22,047 because she may be experiencing 127 00:06:22,049 --> 00:06:23,548 a hell of a lot more than you know. 128 00:06:23,550 --> 00:06:26,151 Sometimes I worry that it takes advantage of the fact 129 00:06:26,153 --> 00:06:28,520 that she can't tell me everything. 130 00:06:28,522 --> 00:06:30,021 That's why we're just praying that -- 131 00:06:30,023 --> 00:06:32,257 that y'all can help us. 132 00:06:36,130 --> 00:06:37,829 Don't like it in here. 133 00:06:37,831 --> 00:06:39,531 I don't like this space at all. 134 00:06:39,533 --> 00:06:41,767 There's so much here. My god. 135 00:06:41,769 --> 00:06:44,970 I'm -- I'm like, completely overwhelmed right now. 136 00:06:44,972 --> 00:06:48,173 There's a teenager here who's having problems, 137 00:06:48,175 --> 00:06:50,575 long hair, delicate, delicate. 138 00:06:50,577 --> 00:06:52,477 So I think it's a demon. 139 00:06:52,479 --> 00:06:55,647 And this demon is really messing with the girl, 140 00:06:55,649 --> 00:06:58,850 acting like a woman, crawling into the bed 141 00:06:58,852 --> 00:07:01,686 and... 142 00:07:01,688 --> 00:07:05,423 touching feeling, cuddling. 143 00:07:05,425 --> 00:07:07,492 It's evil. It's so **** evil, though. 144 00:07:07,494 --> 00:07:09,628 It's so **** evil. 145 00:07:15,402 --> 00:07:17,002 All right, Donna, why'd you bring me upstairs? 146 00:07:17,004 --> 00:07:18,270 What's the story? 147 00:07:18,272 --> 00:07:21,039 I was, sleeping one night, woke up, 148 00:07:21,041 --> 00:07:24,242 and I couldn't breathe, like I was being choked. 149 00:07:24,244 --> 00:07:25,610 And I couldn't move. 150 00:07:25,612 --> 00:07:29,014 And Abbie woke up and she kept sayin', "Mom, mom, mom!" 151 00:07:29,016 --> 00:07:32,184 And it kinda upsets me 'cause she was so scared. 152 00:07:32,186 --> 00:07:34,519 And, um, she said my lips were turnin' blue 153 00:07:34,521 --> 00:07:36,154 and my face was swelling. 154 00:07:36,156 --> 00:07:38,590 - You sure it wasn't a dream? - Yes. 155 00:07:38,592 --> 00:07:40,292 Do you think whatever's here wants you here? 156 00:07:40,294 --> 00:07:43,328 No, especially not up here. 157 00:07:43,330 --> 00:07:45,063 This is their place. 158 00:07:45,065 --> 00:07:46,398 And now whatever's here forced you guys 159 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:48,099 into not sleeping up here? 160 00:07:48,101 --> 00:07:49,968 Yeah. 161 00:07:49,970 --> 00:07:51,369 Okay. Anything else? 162 00:07:51,371 --> 00:07:54,105 Yeah. I see an apparition of a-a man. 163 00:07:54,107 --> 00:07:55,373 It's all black. 164 00:07:55,375 --> 00:07:57,142 Um, he's -- he's very tall. 165 00:07:57,144 --> 00:07:59,344 The only thing I do see that's not black is his -- 166 00:07:59,346 --> 00:08:02,581 is a pale -- pale, yellow eyes. 167 00:08:02,583 --> 00:08:05,784 And he has a long, um, 168 00:08:05,786 --> 00:08:07,686 hairy, Grinch-like fingers. 169 00:08:07,688 --> 00:08:09,287 The way you describe, it's something out of, 170 00:08:09,289 --> 00:08:10,422 like, a horror movie. 171 00:08:10,424 --> 00:08:13,058 It's kinda like his -- like an owl. 172 00:08:13,060 --> 00:08:14,559 I know it sounds crazy. 173 00:08:14,561 --> 00:08:16,595 Any medications you're taking for the -- 174 00:08:16,597 --> 00:08:19,231 the symptoms you're havin'? - Mnh-mnh. No. 175 00:08:19,233 --> 00:08:21,466 Okay. The only reason I ask is because I don't know 176 00:08:21,468 --> 00:08:22,734 if you're hallucinatin' what you're seein' or... 177 00:08:22,736 --> 00:08:24,169 Right. 178 00:08:24,171 --> 00:08:25,437 I would think that, too. 179 00:08:25,439 --> 00:08:28,173 - 'Cause it's pretty bizarre. - It is. 180 00:08:28,175 --> 00:08:29,841 All right. 181 00:08:31,345 --> 00:08:33,678 The demon went through the wall. 182 00:08:33,680 --> 00:08:37,816 And then it, like, morphed into, like, a creepy face. 183 00:08:37,818 --> 00:08:39,484 Like, grotesque. 184 00:08:39,486 --> 00:08:41,653 Not only can this demon project itself 185 00:08:41,655 --> 00:08:43,288 to look like anything it wants, 186 00:08:43,290 --> 00:08:47,225 it's also able to affect the living in horrible ways. 187 00:08:47,227 --> 00:08:49,861 I can't breathe. I feel, like, choking. 188 00:08:49,863 --> 00:08:52,197 I think the demon's making people kill each other 189 00:08:52,199 --> 00:08:54,466 or kill themselves. 190 00:08:54,468 --> 00:08:57,469 This place is ****. 191 00:08:57,471 --> 00:08:59,037 Is anything else goin' on? 192 00:08:59,039 --> 00:09:00,338 Well, I hear, um, um, 193 00:09:00,340 --> 00:09:02,807 a female voice calling my name. 194 00:09:02,809 --> 00:09:04,109 'Cause this always usually happens 195 00:09:04,111 --> 00:09:05,877 when I'm at home by myself. 196 00:09:05,879 --> 00:09:07,612 And it -- it scares me to death. 197 00:09:07,614 --> 00:09:09,447 Are there any females other than you in the house, 198 00:09:09,449 --> 00:09:10,515 other than Abbie? 199 00:09:10,517 --> 00:09:12,951 Mnh-mnh. No. 200 00:09:12,953 --> 00:09:14,686 TV on, anything like that? 201 00:09:14,688 --> 00:09:16,988 No, I had all the TVs turned off. 202 00:09:16,990 --> 00:09:18,590 Well, you got your hands full. 203 00:09:18,592 --> 00:09:21,459 They definitely don't like us here. 204 00:09:21,461 --> 00:09:22,961 They don't want us here. 205 00:09:22,963 --> 00:09:24,829 I think they just want us gone. 206 00:09:27,100 --> 00:09:30,135 There's a woman there, and she's just staring at me. 207 00:09:30,137 --> 00:09:31,469 She scares me. 208 00:09:31,471 --> 00:09:36,174 She scares me because she's so not okay. 209 00:09:37,544 --> 00:09:39,044 She's crawling on the floor. She's crying. 210 00:09:39,046 --> 00:09:41,346 She's screaming. She's yelling. She's in pain. She was hurt. 211 00:09:41,348 --> 00:09:43,448 I don't know what's goin' on here. 212 00:09:43,450 --> 00:09:45,817 My god. I'm so scared. 213 00:09:45,819 --> 00:09:47,185 The dead have been **** here. 214 00:09:47,187 --> 00:09:48,820 You know, it's not good. 215 00:09:48,822 --> 00:09:52,190 They can't move on. It's really bad. 216 00:09:52,192 --> 00:09:54,726 I think the dead here really do think they're in hell. 217 00:09:56,296 --> 00:09:59,130 It's so not good. 218 00:10:18,618 --> 00:10:21,219 So, Andy, this is your master bedroom? 219 00:10:21,221 --> 00:10:22,721 - Correct. - Okay. 220 00:10:22,723 --> 00:10:25,357 Well, this is the first house in over 100 cases I've ever been in 221 00:10:25,359 --> 00:10:27,258 where the bedroom set wasn't even set up. 222 00:10:27,260 --> 00:10:30,128 So what you're tellin' me is that stuff was so bad up here 223 00:10:30,130 --> 00:10:31,629 that you guys didn't even go as far 224 00:10:31,631 --> 00:10:33,732 as even putting the bed together? That's right. 225 00:10:33,734 --> 00:10:35,100 Now where -- where do you specifically sleep? 226 00:10:35,102 --> 00:10:38,870 Downstairs, in the recliner. 227 00:10:38,872 --> 00:10:40,138 So, Andy, I was talkin' to your wife, 228 00:10:40,140 --> 00:10:41,506 and she was tellin' me about 229 00:10:41,508 --> 00:10:43,508 everything she's going through, plus the kids. 230 00:10:43,510 --> 00:10:45,510 It makes me feel terrible. 231 00:10:45,512 --> 00:10:47,846 You want to protect 'em. You -- you want to be there. 232 00:10:47,848 --> 00:10:50,115 But, um, it just seemed like ever since we've been 233 00:10:50,117 --> 00:10:53,818 in this house, it's just been one issue after another. 234 00:10:53,820 --> 00:10:55,920 The kids don't like to come upstairs. 235 00:10:55,922 --> 00:10:58,757 Now, Andy, have you had any of the experiences 236 00:10:58,759 --> 00:11:00,492 that your wife and the kids have had? 237 00:11:00,494 --> 00:11:02,027 Well, there's a few things that's happened. 238 00:11:02,029 --> 00:11:03,828 I've heard noises, 239 00:11:03,830 --> 00:11:06,998 like, maybe something falling off of a counter. 240 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:08,400 Then I go and check on it, 241 00:11:08,402 --> 00:11:11,102 and, you know, don't -- don't see anything. 242 00:11:11,104 --> 00:11:14,439 So I just kinda discount it. 243 00:11:14,441 --> 00:11:15,774 Anything else happen? 244 00:11:15,776 --> 00:11:17,675 Severe room temperature changes. 245 00:11:17,677 --> 00:11:19,644 The hallway will be one temperature. 246 00:11:19,646 --> 00:11:21,913 You come into this room, it's like a meat locker. 247 00:11:21,915 --> 00:11:23,748 What time of the year were you feeling this? 248 00:11:23,750 --> 00:11:25,350 Well, it was during the summer. 249 00:11:25,352 --> 00:11:28,119 Did you shut off the vents or anything in this room? 250 00:11:28,121 --> 00:11:30,522 No, they hadn't been. 251 00:11:30,524 --> 00:11:32,991 That's strange. Anything else? 252 00:11:32,993 --> 00:11:34,592 Since we started remodelin', 253 00:11:34,594 --> 00:11:37,195 I started, you know, havin' trouble breathin' 254 00:11:37,197 --> 00:11:39,297 and my back started hurtin' really bad. 255 00:11:39,299 --> 00:11:42,167 And then I had kind of a tightness of the chest. 256 00:11:42,169 --> 00:11:44,169 Now have you felt that any place else in the house? 257 00:11:44,171 --> 00:11:45,336 No, I haven't. 258 00:11:45,338 --> 00:11:47,072 - What about at work? - No. 259 00:11:47,074 --> 00:11:48,673 It hasn't happened to you since? 260 00:11:48,675 --> 00:11:50,642 - No, hasn't. - That's kinda strange. 261 00:11:50,644 --> 00:11:53,678 I believe something attacked me. 262 00:11:56,049 --> 00:11:58,750 You're kinda **** anywhere in this house. 263 00:12:01,455 --> 00:12:03,888 This is just where it's most active. 264 00:12:03,890 --> 00:12:08,460 I think that area's like a portal. 265 00:12:08,462 --> 00:12:10,762 - What does that mean? - It's a doorway. 266 00:12:10,764 --> 00:12:14,332 It's for dead people, 267 00:12:14,334 --> 00:12:17,635 connects outside. 268 00:12:17,637 --> 00:12:20,105 Other houses are affected. 269 00:12:20,107 --> 00:12:22,173 Something's happening in my stomach. 270 00:12:31,885 --> 00:12:33,218 So, Tyler, I was talkin' to Mom. 271 00:12:33,220 --> 00:12:35,453 She said you basically grew up here, correct? 272 00:12:35,455 --> 00:12:36,621 Right. Yes, sir. 273 00:12:36,623 --> 00:12:38,022 - How old are you now? -21. 274 00:12:38,024 --> 00:12:41,559 Now what about yourself as far as experiences go? 275 00:12:41,561 --> 00:12:45,396 Feeling, you know, drained all the time. 276 00:12:45,398 --> 00:12:47,532 Sleeping for 12 hours 277 00:12:47,534 --> 00:12:50,735 and feeling like I've only gotten two. So... 278 00:12:50,737 --> 00:12:53,805 Your father mentioned chest pains and back pains 279 00:12:53,807 --> 00:12:55,206 and stuff like that. 280 00:12:55,208 --> 00:12:57,575 Are you having any kind of health issues? 281 00:12:57,577 --> 00:13:00,011 The stabbing pains in my back. 282 00:13:00,013 --> 00:13:02,847 I'll -- I'll be in the bed and I won't be able to, 283 00:13:02,849 --> 00:13:05,250 for about 5 minutes, be able to get up. 284 00:13:05,252 --> 00:13:06,518 It just hurts. 285 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:09,888 One second I'm fine, and then the next, 286 00:13:09,890 --> 00:13:11,156 extreme pain. 287 00:13:11,158 --> 00:13:13,224 I did over six tests, 288 00:13:13,226 --> 00:13:17,695 and they said they had no idea what would be causin' the pain. 289 00:13:17,697 --> 00:13:19,197 What do you think is goin' on here? 290 00:13:19,199 --> 00:13:21,099 You think it's paranormal that's causing your issues? 291 00:13:21,101 --> 00:13:25,236 Without a doubt. I've seen too many things not to. 292 00:13:25,238 --> 00:13:26,538 All right. Anything else? 293 00:13:26,540 --> 00:13:29,641 The one night I was laying on Abbie's bed, 294 00:13:29,643 --> 00:13:34,579 I saw a black shadow figure block out the TV. 295 00:13:34,581 --> 00:13:38,917 It was like a real tall, stocky man, had yellow eyes. 296 00:13:38,919 --> 00:13:40,985 And then how long does he hang out? 297 00:13:40,987 --> 00:13:45,823 Three, for seconds, looks at me, and then disappears. 298 00:13:45,825 --> 00:13:47,392 To this day, it haunts me. 299 00:13:47,394 --> 00:13:50,695 All right. So that's in Abbie's room where you saw this. 300 00:13:50,697 --> 00:13:52,330 I mean, you gotta be scared 301 00:13:52,332 --> 00:13:54,532 that she may be seeing the same damn thing. 302 00:13:54,534 --> 00:13:57,502 And you know, it -- it upsets me 303 00:13:57,504 --> 00:14:00,872 because for something to go after her... 304 00:14:00,874 --> 00:14:03,474 you know, any -- any time I would say, 305 00:14:03,476 --> 00:14:07,145 "Come after me. You know, don't go after her." 306 00:14:07,147 --> 00:14:10,582 I'd take her place any day. 307 00:14:10,584 --> 00:14:13,851 If you had a choice of living here or not, what would you do? 308 00:14:13,853 --> 00:14:16,154 I'd go as far away from this place as I could. 309 00:14:19,259 --> 00:14:21,526 I don't like it here. 310 00:14:21,528 --> 00:14:24,262 This is a bad room. This is a very, very bad room. 311 00:14:25,498 --> 00:14:27,799 I'm seein', um... 312 00:14:30,237 --> 00:14:32,103 They're in the walls. They're in the walls. 313 00:14:32,105 --> 00:14:34,272 And they're hidin' in the **** walls. 314 00:14:34,274 --> 00:14:38,076 And they are...bad. 315 00:14:40,247 --> 00:14:42,880 People see these. - Like, how many? 316 00:14:42,882 --> 00:14:46,251 There was probably, like, five. 317 00:14:46,253 --> 00:14:51,823 They are slitherin' around on the walls. 318 00:14:51,825 --> 00:14:53,658 They're physical. They're physical. 319 00:14:53,660 --> 00:14:55,093 Um -- 320 00:14:55,095 --> 00:14:58,363 Mother ****, mother. 321 00:15:11,010 --> 00:15:12,810 So the property records on this place 322 00:15:12,812 --> 00:15:15,212 go all the way back to the mid-1700s. 323 00:15:15,214 --> 00:15:16,680 In fact, the first family 324 00:15:16,682 --> 00:15:19,116 who settled on Donna and Andy's property 325 00:15:19,118 --> 00:15:22,252 got the land grant from King George III of England. 326 00:15:22,254 --> 00:15:24,254 Amazingly, I managed to track down a descendant 327 00:15:24,256 --> 00:15:25,956 who still lives in the area, 328 00:15:25,958 --> 00:15:27,391 and he says he's got a story 329 00:15:27,393 --> 00:15:28,792 that will definitely help my case. 330 00:15:33,566 --> 00:15:36,467 So, Caroll, I understand that you are the descendant 331 00:15:36,469 --> 00:15:38,669 of the original owners of my clients' property. 332 00:15:38,671 --> 00:15:40,871 Yes. I'm the -- the fourth great grandson 333 00:15:40,873 --> 00:15:42,773 of John Caldwell, who's buried here. 334 00:15:42,775 --> 00:15:45,509 This -- this is his original marker. 335 00:15:45,511 --> 00:15:46,844 So from what I understand, you told me 336 00:15:46,846 --> 00:15:48,846 he was granted the land from the king? 337 00:15:48,848 --> 00:15:53,784 Yes. He was granted 250 acres in 1772. 338 00:15:53,786 --> 00:15:55,552 So my clients' house is on the original property. 339 00:15:55,554 --> 00:15:56,787 That's correct, yes. 340 00:15:56,789 --> 00:15:57,921 Now you had mentioned to me 341 00:15:57,923 --> 00:15:59,490 that there was a pretty interesting story 342 00:15:59,492 --> 00:16:00,724 in regards to your family. 343 00:16:00,726 --> 00:16:02,292 Yeah, John Caldwell, 344 00:16:02,294 --> 00:16:04,428 he eventually ended up fighting on the side 345 00:16:04,430 --> 00:16:06,563 of the American Revolution. 346 00:16:06,565 --> 00:16:08,399 There was a person in this area 347 00:16:08,401 --> 00:16:10,534 who was on the side of the British. 348 00:16:10,536 --> 00:16:13,570 And he was called "Bloody Bill" Cunningham. 349 00:16:13,572 --> 00:16:15,639 He was a terror in this part of the country. 350 00:16:15,641 --> 00:16:18,275 He killed many people, in this area 351 00:16:18,277 --> 00:16:20,511 who were loyal to the colonists. 352 00:16:20,513 --> 00:16:23,547 In November 1780, Bloody Bill Cunningham 353 00:16:23,549 --> 00:16:26,316 captured John Caldwell's younger son, 354 00:16:26,318 --> 00:16:29,052 who was 14 at the time, hacked him with swords, 355 00:16:29,054 --> 00:16:31,789 scalped him, and left him lyin' on the side of the road. 356 00:16:31,791 --> 00:16:33,624 That's a brutal way to go. 357 00:16:33,626 --> 00:16:36,593 He lingered till morning and -- and passed the next morning. 358 00:16:36,595 --> 00:16:40,330 And he is the first person buried here in this cemetery. 359 00:16:44,503 --> 00:16:47,371 I'm seein' an older man. 360 00:16:47,373 --> 00:16:49,773 He's taking a boy, I think. 361 00:16:49,775 --> 00:16:53,444 He's pushin' his face to the floor, 362 00:16:53,446 --> 00:16:55,212 kickin' him. 363 00:16:55,214 --> 00:16:57,114 "This isn't how you act!" 364 00:16:57,116 --> 00:16:59,283 Kickin' him. 365 00:16:59,285 --> 00:17:02,085 This is residual. 366 00:17:02,087 --> 00:17:06,423 The teenage boy's in trouble. 367 00:17:06,425 --> 00:17:09,660 He's, like, maybe 15, 16 years old. 368 00:17:09,662 --> 00:17:13,464 So much anger between these two people, 369 00:17:13,466 --> 00:17:16,600 between the kid and the -- the adult, 370 00:17:16,602 --> 00:17:18,769 so much **** anger. 371 00:17:18,771 --> 00:17:21,171 I know that that man was influenced. 372 00:17:21,173 --> 00:17:22,606 What's doing that? 373 00:17:22,608 --> 00:17:24,241 The demon. 374 00:17:27,813 --> 00:17:30,214 Something's wrong. 375 00:17:30,216 --> 00:17:33,350 Feel like somebody's being stabbed in the stomach. 376 00:17:33,352 --> 00:17:37,588 I feel like a young male is being stabbed in the stomach. 377 00:17:41,460 --> 00:17:43,494 I gotta know more about this Bloody Bill guy. 378 00:17:43,496 --> 00:17:45,162 I'm on my way to meet a genealogist 379 00:17:45,164 --> 00:17:47,431 who says not only did he terrorize the city, 380 00:17:47,433 --> 00:17:49,500 but he ended up killing someone else 381 00:17:49,502 --> 00:17:50,968 who lived on my client's property. 382 00:17:58,010 --> 00:18:00,677 So, Suzanne, this guy, Bloody Bill Cunningham, 383 00:18:00,679 --> 00:18:02,279 I understand he was a bit of a psycho 384 00:18:02,281 --> 00:18:03,514 that killed a lot of people. 385 00:18:03,516 --> 00:18:05,415 - That's true. - What do you know about him? 386 00:18:05,417 --> 00:18:07,184 He was born in South Carolina, 387 00:18:07,186 --> 00:18:08,552 and he grew up in a family 388 00:18:08,554 --> 00:18:10,988 that was loyal to the British crown. 389 00:18:10,990 --> 00:18:13,123 And this is a portrait of Bloody Bill. 390 00:18:15,794 --> 00:18:18,095 Looks pretty regal in this photo, doesn't he? 391 00:18:18,097 --> 00:18:21,265 So how's this guy turn into a bloody killer? 392 00:18:21,267 --> 00:18:23,800 At the age of 19, he decides 393 00:18:23,802 --> 00:18:27,604 to go against his parents' loyalty to the crown 394 00:18:27,606 --> 00:18:30,974 and join with the American colonists to fight, 395 00:18:30,976 --> 00:18:34,478 with the one proviso that he not be required 396 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:36,947 to kill or go after his family. 397 00:18:36,949 --> 00:18:38,348 Okay. 398 00:18:38,350 --> 00:18:41,552 Well, a few months after going with the American colonists, 399 00:18:41,554 --> 00:18:44,087 he's asked to do just exactly that. 400 00:18:44,089 --> 00:18:46,390 He's asked to go after his family. 401 00:18:46,392 --> 00:18:47,391 Okay. So what does he do? 402 00:18:47,393 --> 00:18:49,993 He refuses. He resigns. 403 00:18:49,995 --> 00:18:52,229 And his commanding officer and some others 404 00:18:52,231 --> 00:18:55,198 went looking for him 'cause they weren't happy with the decision. 405 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:58,769 And they found his parents and his younger brother. 406 00:18:58,771 --> 00:19:00,771 They roughed up his parents 407 00:19:00,773 --> 00:19:02,839 and whipped his brother to death. 408 00:19:02,841 --> 00:19:04,441 Wow. Okay. 409 00:19:04,443 --> 00:19:06,209 So now I can see where this guy's anger's startin' to build. 410 00:19:06,211 --> 00:19:09,313 Yes. He gets together a group of men, 411 00:19:09,315 --> 00:19:12,416 and he starts out on a rampage to get even. 412 00:19:12,418 --> 00:19:15,252 They traveled through the countryside burning homes, 413 00:19:15,254 --> 00:19:18,255 killing people, looting. 414 00:19:18,257 --> 00:19:20,724 - So how bad was it? - He killed at least 50 people, 415 00:19:20,726 --> 00:19:22,659 including John Caldwell Junior, 416 00:19:22,661 --> 00:19:24,294 who lived on your clients' property. 417 00:19:24,296 --> 00:19:26,997 I just left his grave site. 418 00:19:26,999 --> 00:19:30,000 All right, so at some point, this Bloody Bill gets stopped? 419 00:19:30,002 --> 00:19:33,403 In 1782, he was banished from South Carolina 420 00:19:33,405 --> 00:19:36,106 and fled to Nassau in the Bahamas. 421 00:19:36,108 --> 00:19:38,475 - What happens to him there? - He died there, 422 00:19:38,477 --> 00:19:41,778 about the age of 31, in 1787. 423 00:19:41,780 --> 00:19:43,347 Any cause of death? Do we have any idea? 424 00:19:43,349 --> 00:19:46,450 Some suggest that he died of T.B. 425 00:19:46,452 --> 00:19:48,485 - Good. He deserved it. - Yes. 426 00:19:51,490 --> 00:19:52,823 Do you have any idea 427 00:19:52,825 --> 00:19:54,925 how long these shadow people have been here? 428 00:19:54,927 --> 00:19:57,227 I would just say forever. 429 00:19:57,229 --> 00:19:59,196 And this demon thing? 430 00:19:59,198 --> 00:20:01,231 Forever. 431 00:20:01,233 --> 00:20:03,066 Do you have an idea what they want? 432 00:20:03,068 --> 00:20:05,702 The shadow people are **** killing people here. 433 00:20:05,704 --> 00:20:07,104 And I think the demon's 434 00:20:07,106 --> 00:20:09,606 **** makin' people kill each other or kill themselves, 435 00:20:09,608 --> 00:20:11,341 ****, you know? 436 00:20:16,482 --> 00:20:18,482 This is bad land. It's bad. 437 00:20:18,484 --> 00:20:20,083 It's not good. 438 00:20:20,085 --> 00:20:23,253 This, activity 439 00:20:23,255 --> 00:20:26,156 does go, pretty far back. 440 00:20:26,158 --> 00:20:28,692 It goes this way and it goes this way. 441 00:20:28,694 --> 00:20:31,895 And other houses are being affected. 442 00:20:31,897 --> 00:20:34,097 This is where the dead roam. 443 00:20:34,099 --> 00:20:37,434 Everybody's wanderin' around. Everybody's wandering. 444 00:20:37,436 --> 00:20:39,336 It's like chaos. It's not good. 445 00:20:39,338 --> 00:20:41,605 Dead people feel like they're in hell. 446 00:20:48,213 --> 00:20:49,413 If you need us to investigate 447 00:20:49,415 --> 00:20:51,314 unexplained activity in your home, 448 00:20:51,316 --> 00:20:54,384 go to the "The Dead Files" page at travelchannel.com. 449 00:20:54,386 --> 00:20:56,253 Click on "Help me, Dead Files!" to submit your story, 450 00:20:56,255 --> 00:20:57,454 And we'll help if we can. 451 00:21:04,872 --> 00:21:08,039 So far, I've got clients being physically assaulted 452 00:21:08,041 --> 00:21:09,508 on a property where Bloody Bill murdered 453 00:21:09,510 --> 00:21:13,778 one of his 50 victims, the child of a former owner. 454 00:21:13,780 --> 00:21:17,015 But I wanna see if there's anything else. 455 00:21:17,017 --> 00:21:20,919 Searching through old records, I find two mysterious drownings. 456 00:21:20,921 --> 00:21:22,487 Turns out, they happened in a quarry 457 00:21:22,489 --> 00:21:26,691 right on my clients' original property line. 458 00:21:26,693 --> 00:21:28,627 I'm heading over to meet the sheriff of Spartanburg, 459 00:21:28,629 --> 00:21:30,896 who's gonna tell me exactly what happened. 460 00:21:38,171 --> 00:21:40,405 So, Sheriff, I came across those two drownings 461 00:21:40,407 --> 00:21:43,174 in my research that happened in the quarry, 462 00:21:43,176 --> 00:21:45,877 a little over a mile from my, clients' property. 463 00:21:45,879 --> 00:21:48,079 So what can you tell me about the first victim? 464 00:21:48,081 --> 00:21:50,215 Mr. Henry Oglesby 465 00:21:50,217 --> 00:21:52,717 was a 14-year-old male in good shape. 466 00:21:52,719 --> 00:21:55,387 He ran track. He was healthy and athletic. 467 00:21:55,389 --> 00:21:58,023 This is a photo here of Henry Oglesby 468 00:21:58,025 --> 00:22:00,492 at -- at the age of 14. 469 00:22:00,494 --> 00:22:04,062 He was at the rock quarry and decided to go swimmin'. 470 00:22:04,064 --> 00:22:05,964 This was a very popular hang out. 471 00:22:05,966 --> 00:22:07,799 He jumped in the water. 472 00:22:07,801 --> 00:22:10,135 And I don't know what height he jumped from. 473 00:22:10,137 --> 00:22:11,803 He never resurfaced. 474 00:22:11,805 --> 00:22:14,306 I can't imagine the heartbreak his parents felt 475 00:22:14,308 --> 00:22:16,441 losing a 14-year-old like that. 476 00:22:16,443 --> 00:22:19,077 All right, so what do we know about the other drowning? 477 00:22:19,079 --> 00:22:22,113 Yeah, August the 6th of '89, almost 2 years. 478 00:22:22,115 --> 00:22:24,316 A David Wayne Ellison, 25 years old. 479 00:22:24,318 --> 00:22:27,552 Same -- same deal, ha-- hanging out with his buddies. 480 00:22:27,554 --> 00:22:30,021 Two guys jumped in, one came out. 481 00:22:30,023 --> 00:22:33,992 And we find him in about 17 feet of water. 482 00:22:33,994 --> 00:22:35,393 So now you got 483 00:22:35,395 --> 00:22:39,331 two pretty able-bodied, strong guys drowning? 484 00:22:39,333 --> 00:22:40,665 Right. 485 00:22:40,667 --> 00:22:43,234 Okay. 486 00:22:43,236 --> 00:22:47,105 I'm hearing, like, "Don't go in the pool." 487 00:22:47,107 --> 00:22:54,512 And I saw a shadow person go in the **** pool. 488 00:22:54,514 --> 00:22:57,749 "Ya think it's safe over here, but it's not." 489 00:22:57,751 --> 00:23:00,518 What do you think would happen if people go in the pool? 490 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:04,356 I think that, they might drown. 491 00:23:04,358 --> 00:23:05,924 I think that the shadow person 492 00:23:05,926 --> 00:23:07,692 that hangs out in the **** pool 493 00:23:07,694 --> 00:23:08,960 would try to drown people. 494 00:23:08,962 --> 00:23:12,063 - Like how? - It'd pull their feet. 495 00:23:12,065 --> 00:23:15,133 Not safe, not safe, especially kids, 496 00:23:15,135 --> 00:23:16,801 really dangerous here for children. 497 00:23:16,803 --> 00:23:20,071 Really not good for kids here, not good at all. 498 00:23:21,608 --> 00:23:23,008 I come across another case 499 00:23:23,010 --> 00:23:25,343 that you might find interesting near your clients property. 500 00:23:25,345 --> 00:23:27,212 There was a murder that took place there 501 00:23:27,214 --> 00:23:29,914 on October the 31st, 1990. 502 00:23:29,916 --> 00:23:32,350 - At the quarry? - Yes, sir. 503 00:23:32,352 --> 00:23:33,718 Okay, so what exactly happened? 504 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,955 It's a gentleman by the name of Ramone Hernandez. 505 00:23:36,957 --> 00:23:39,190 Mr. Hernandez is 24 years old. 506 00:23:39,192 --> 00:23:43,395 This next slide is, photos of the two convicted killers. 507 00:23:43,397 --> 00:23:45,330 This gentleman here on the left is -- 508 00:23:45,332 --> 00:23:47,599 his name is Charles Steven Sink. 509 00:23:47,601 --> 00:23:49,200 And his girlfriend, Ellen Holcolm, 510 00:23:49,202 --> 00:23:52,303 who have both been convicted of murdering Mr. Hernandez. 511 00:23:52,305 --> 00:23:54,873 Okay. He's got a smirk on his face. 512 00:23:54,875 --> 00:23:57,242 All right, so how did the murder go down? 513 00:23:57,244 --> 00:24:00,078 Hernandez, gentleman who was suffering from a brain tumor 514 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,347 and had a very small amount of time to live, 515 00:24:02,349 --> 00:24:05,250 he had a settlement, a large sum of money in his pocket. 516 00:24:05,252 --> 00:24:08,453 And, these two took him out under the disguise 517 00:24:08,455 --> 00:24:11,823 that they were gonna go party and have some fun. 518 00:24:11,825 --> 00:24:14,359 This Sink guy had a- a cocaine problem. 519 00:24:14,361 --> 00:24:15,794 You know, he's needin' money. 520 00:24:15,796 --> 00:24:17,862 And he hits Hernandez in the back of the head... 521 00:24:17,864 --> 00:24:19,931 - Right. - With -- with the back of an ax. 522 00:24:19,933 --> 00:24:22,033 So not to really cut him up. 523 00:24:22,035 --> 00:24:24,235 And they tried to cover their actions 524 00:24:24,237 --> 00:24:25,303 by throwing him into the quarry 525 00:24:25,305 --> 00:24:28,006 and make it look like a drowning. 526 00:24:28,008 --> 00:24:29,941 He and her both had planned this 527 00:24:29,943 --> 00:24:31,843 to make it look like an accident. 528 00:24:31,845 --> 00:24:34,245 All right, so how much money did these two get? 529 00:24:34,247 --> 00:24:37,615 We know $700 that they took off this man. 530 00:24:37,617 --> 00:24:39,417 All right, so this homicide happened over 25 years ago. 531 00:24:39,419 --> 00:24:40,652 Are these guys still in? 532 00:24:40,654 --> 00:24:42,921 - Sink got out in 2013. - Okay. 533 00:24:42,923 --> 00:24:46,591 And, she got -- she got in or around the same time, 534 00:24:46,593 --> 00:24:49,694 but has, reviolated and gone back. 535 00:24:49,696 --> 00:24:52,897 Wow, so I got a murder that pretty much took place 536 00:24:52,899 --> 00:24:54,499 and the body dumped in that same quarry 537 00:24:54,501 --> 00:24:56,167 where these two kids drowned. - That's right. 538 00:25:00,340 --> 00:25:01,573 There's a man. 539 00:25:01,575 --> 00:25:05,677 I get he's young, probably late teens. 540 00:25:05,679 --> 00:25:08,446 I feel like someone is after him. 541 00:25:08,448 --> 00:25:11,015 He's getting beat up. He's being beaten. 542 00:25:13,353 --> 00:25:17,288 I see two people around him, one is a tall, chubby man. 543 00:25:17,290 --> 00:25:19,824 I get the name Steve. 544 00:25:19,826 --> 00:25:21,092 This dude 545 00:25:21,094 --> 00:25:24,129 who's hurting this kid is in his 30s or 40s. 546 00:25:24,131 --> 00:25:27,065 So this is recent, 1990s. 547 00:25:27,067 --> 00:25:30,468 It's dark. It's dark where they are, no lights. 548 00:25:30,470 --> 00:25:33,671 He is crying and praying and begging for his life. 549 00:25:33,673 --> 00:25:37,509 And I hear him yelling, "Not here! Not like this!" 550 00:25:43,750 --> 00:25:46,117 I saw several disturbing things on my walk, 551 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:48,553 but the demon projecting itself is an old woman 552 00:25:48,555 --> 00:25:52,090 to a living child had me the most concerned. 553 00:25:52,092 --> 00:25:56,594 This negative, evil thing is coming up. 554 00:25:56,596 --> 00:25:59,931 And it's wrapping itself around her, 555 00:25:59,933 --> 00:26:04,569 acting like it's good, but it's really evil. 556 00:26:04,571 --> 00:26:07,438 Next, I described how the demon showed itself to me. 557 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,108 It was very disfigured. 558 00:26:10,110 --> 00:26:12,076 And it was reaching out. 559 00:26:12,078 --> 00:26:16,414 And it had these long, dagger-like teeth. 560 00:26:18,585 --> 00:26:20,318 Is this what you saw? 561 00:26:22,122 --> 00:26:24,022 Yes. 562 00:26:43,594 --> 00:26:46,494 Now that Amy and I have completed our investigations, 563 00:26:46,496 --> 00:26:47,796 we're ready to reveal our findings 564 00:26:47,798 --> 00:26:51,333 to each other and our clients for the first time. 565 00:26:51,335 --> 00:26:53,468 So, Amy, this may look like a living room, 566 00:26:53,470 --> 00:26:55,870 but we're actually doing the reveal right in the middle 567 00:26:55,872 --> 00:26:58,340 where everyone in this house sleeps. 568 00:26:58,342 --> 00:26:59,841 It's that bad. 569 00:26:59,843 --> 00:27:02,777 This is Andy, his wife, Donna, 570 00:27:02,779 --> 00:27:05,313 her son, Tyler. 571 00:27:05,315 --> 00:27:09,084 Also... 572 00:27:09,086 --> 00:27:12,053 they have a son, Austin, who's 15, 573 00:27:12,055 --> 00:27:15,457 and their daughter, Abbie, who's 11. 574 00:27:15,459 --> 00:27:17,525 Now Abbie's the reason we've been called in. 575 00:27:17,527 --> 00:27:20,629 Donna believes whatever's here is picking on her 576 00:27:20,631 --> 00:27:23,164 and she's afraid Abbie could be in danger. 577 00:27:23,166 --> 00:27:24,466 Now that Amy knows a little bit 578 00:27:24,468 --> 00:27:26,067 about who you guys are and the rest of the family, 579 00:27:26,069 --> 00:27:28,203 I'm gonna ask her to describe her walk for us. 580 00:27:31,308 --> 00:27:35,043 One of the first things that came through very, very clearly 581 00:27:35,045 --> 00:27:39,414 was a disturbing residual scene I saw involving a young male. 582 00:27:39,416 --> 00:27:41,750 I got that he was in his late teens. 583 00:27:41,752 --> 00:27:43,885 He was extremely frightened. 584 00:27:43,887 --> 00:27:46,688 He felt like he was going to die. 585 00:27:46,690 --> 00:27:48,657 Somebody was after him. 586 00:27:48,659 --> 00:27:50,492 It was dark out at this time. 587 00:27:50,494 --> 00:27:53,662 He was crying and praying 588 00:27:53,664 --> 00:27:55,997 and begging for his life. 589 00:27:55,999 --> 00:27:59,334 He was saying, you know, "Not here! Not like this!" 590 00:27:59,336 --> 00:28:03,772 He was being beaten, by two individuals. 591 00:28:03,774 --> 00:28:07,976 And the one that I really, got a look at was tall. 592 00:28:07,978 --> 00:28:09,611 He was chubby. 593 00:28:09,613 --> 00:28:12,013 I did get the name "Steve" with him. 594 00:28:12,015 --> 00:28:14,649 And I got that this was a fairly recent attack, 595 00:28:14,651 --> 00:28:17,886 possibly 1990s. 596 00:28:19,923 --> 00:28:22,524 That sounds a lot like some, case 597 00:28:22,526 --> 00:28:24,459 I came across on my research. 598 00:28:24,461 --> 00:28:27,328 A mile from here, you guys have a rock quarry, um, 599 00:28:27,330 --> 00:28:29,998 that used to be part of the original property. 600 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,100 Back on Halloween night, 1990, 601 00:28:32,102 --> 00:28:35,303 a young guy named Ramone Hernandez was down here 602 00:28:35,305 --> 00:28:36,938 with two of his friends -- 603 00:28:36,940 --> 00:28:42,444 Charles Steven Sink, who I happen to have a photo of, 604 00:28:42,446 --> 00:28:44,879 middle name Steven... 605 00:28:47,017 --> 00:28:50,652 ...and his girlfriend, Evelyn Holcolm. 606 00:28:50,654 --> 00:28:55,056 Now Ramone had terminal cancer, 607 00:28:55,058 --> 00:28:56,691 recently cashed a disability check 608 00:28:56,693 --> 00:28:58,493 and had a lot of money on him. 609 00:28:58,495 --> 00:29:01,162 His so-called friends took him to the quarry 610 00:29:01,164 --> 00:29:02,997 and suddenly attacked him. 611 00:29:02,999 --> 00:29:04,733 They knocked him unconscious. 612 00:29:04,735 --> 00:29:09,037 And Holcolm and Sink pushed him into the quarry. 613 00:29:09,039 --> 00:29:11,172 - Why'd they do it? - For the money. 614 00:29:11,174 --> 00:29:13,541 Ramone has $700 in cash on him. 615 00:29:13,543 --> 00:29:15,477 Cops wind up figuring it out. 616 00:29:15,479 --> 00:29:16,611 They got a hold of these two, 617 00:29:16,613 --> 00:29:18,480 and they wind up confessing to it. 618 00:29:18,482 --> 00:29:20,949 Sink spent 23 years in prison and he got out. 619 00:29:20,951 --> 00:29:22,050 He's out now. He's alive. 620 00:29:22,052 --> 00:29:24,686 Now Holcolm got out after a few years, 621 00:29:24,688 --> 00:29:26,654 but is back in jail for another offense. 622 00:29:26,656 --> 00:29:28,356 Do you think that's what you might have been seein'? 623 00:29:28,358 --> 00:29:30,725 Well, it sounds just like it. 624 00:29:34,798 --> 00:29:40,168 The next thing was that I... came into the house 625 00:29:40,170 --> 00:29:42,771 and I saw this male. 626 00:29:42,773 --> 00:29:45,173 He seemed extremely angry. 627 00:29:45,175 --> 00:29:48,009 He was hurting people in his life. 628 00:29:48,011 --> 00:29:50,411 One of the things I thought was 629 00:29:50,413 --> 00:29:55,283 that you might hear him walking around. 630 00:29:55,285 --> 00:29:57,485 Everybody in the house hears footsteps, correct? 631 00:29:57,487 --> 00:29:59,154 Yes. 632 00:29:59,156 --> 00:30:01,189 I hear footsteps going up and down, 633 00:30:01,191 --> 00:30:02,490 up and down, up and down. 634 00:30:02,492 --> 00:30:04,025 That's him. 635 00:30:06,830 --> 00:30:12,934 I got that he would occasionally touch women, 636 00:30:12,936 --> 00:30:15,537 possibly, inappropriately. 637 00:30:15,539 --> 00:30:19,007 I also got that he spends a lot of time right here. 638 00:30:19,009 --> 00:30:23,444 So in this room, you may feel nausea and anxiety. 639 00:30:23,446 --> 00:30:24,846 A lot of what you're sayin' is what these guys 640 00:30:24,848 --> 00:30:26,581 are experiencing. 641 00:30:26,583 --> 00:30:28,616 Explain your health issues to Amy. 642 00:30:28,618 --> 00:30:31,352 There's lots of different health issues, 643 00:30:31,354 --> 00:30:34,889 kidneys and gall bladder, back, 644 00:30:34,891 --> 00:30:37,725 and just tired all the time. 645 00:30:37,727 --> 00:30:39,227 Since we've moved here, I've di-- 646 00:30:39,229 --> 00:30:41,229 been diagnosed with a heart condition. 647 00:30:41,231 --> 00:30:44,566 I've had stabbing pains 648 00:30:44,568 --> 00:30:47,969 and back pain all the time. 649 00:30:47,971 --> 00:30:50,538 Now this might explain why we were called in. 650 00:30:50,540 --> 00:30:52,207 Abbie has developed 651 00:30:52,209 --> 00:30:55,643 an anxiety disorder called selective mutism. 652 00:30:55,645 --> 00:30:58,613 Any time she's feeling threatened or anxious, 653 00:30:58,615 --> 00:31:02,717 she's not able to tell me 'cause she just -- she shuts down. 654 00:31:02,719 --> 00:31:05,320 Interesting. Okay. 655 00:31:05,322 --> 00:31:09,757 Typically, on a normal investigation, 656 00:31:09,759 --> 00:31:13,528 I will come across, you know, one thing 657 00:31:13,530 --> 00:31:16,598 that is of major importance at a location. 658 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:18,967 You, in fact, have several. 659 00:31:22,339 --> 00:31:26,641 I actually came across a portal. 660 00:31:26,643 --> 00:31:28,977 It's upstairs at the end of the hall 661 00:31:28,979 --> 00:31:31,079 before you go into the big room. 662 00:31:31,081 --> 00:31:35,416 And what this is, is a doorway for the dead. 663 00:31:35,418 --> 00:31:37,151 The dead that were coming through this 664 00:31:37,153 --> 00:31:38,319 were indicating to me that 665 00:31:38,321 --> 00:31:40,054 they literally feel like they're stuck 666 00:31:40,056 --> 00:31:41,456 and that they're stuck in hell. 667 00:31:44,728 --> 00:31:45,894 So let me get this straight 668 00:31:45,896 --> 00:31:47,095 So there's a portal here, 669 00:31:47,097 --> 00:31:49,230 the dead could come from just about anywhere? 670 00:31:49,232 --> 00:31:51,199 Yeah. 671 00:31:51,201 --> 00:31:55,370 And there are a lot of people that are coming through. 672 00:31:56,606 --> 00:31:58,072 I'm sorry... 673 00:31:59,309 --> 00:32:03,111 All these horrible things that happened around this area, 674 00:32:03,113 --> 00:32:04,679 that were negative, 675 00:32:04,681 --> 00:32:08,549 are being sucked in here. 676 00:32:08,551 --> 00:32:09,884 It tears me up. 677 00:32:09,886 --> 00:32:12,887 I wished it was me that was experiencing 678 00:32:12,889 --> 00:32:14,889 as opposed to them. 679 00:32:18,561 --> 00:32:20,228 The other thing that's coming in 680 00:32:20,230 --> 00:32:23,865 with all of these lost, dead people roaming about 681 00:32:23,867 --> 00:32:26,601 was upstairs in the hallway. 682 00:32:26,603 --> 00:32:30,672 And it was shadow people. 683 00:32:30,674 --> 00:32:34,943 And they were slithering flat on the walls, 684 00:32:34,945 --> 00:32:38,079 up and down and on the ceiling. 685 00:32:38,081 --> 00:32:41,282 These things have been here for a very, very long time 686 00:32:41,284 --> 00:32:43,985 and have somehow figured out a way 687 00:32:43,987 --> 00:32:48,756 to cross over from possibly another dimension. 688 00:32:52,028 --> 00:32:55,363 They are extremely dangerous. 689 00:32:55,365 --> 00:32:59,100 They tend to center their anger 690 00:32:59,102 --> 00:33:02,236 around children, the elderly, 691 00:33:02,238 --> 00:33:05,740 and individuals who are sick. 692 00:33:05,742 --> 00:33:10,111 Now Tyler here, tell Amy about the shadow figure you see. 693 00:33:10,113 --> 00:33:12,513 It feels like it's about 7 foot tall. 694 00:33:12,515 --> 00:33:14,983 - Okay. - And it's peering down on me. 695 00:33:14,985 --> 00:33:16,751 And it has yellow eyes. 696 00:33:16,753 --> 00:33:18,786 Really. Okay. 697 00:33:18,788 --> 00:33:21,723 I see something, like he says, very tall 698 00:33:21,725 --> 00:33:23,791 with pale, yellow eyes. 699 00:33:23,793 --> 00:33:27,228 And he's got these long, creepy fingers. 700 00:33:27,230 --> 00:33:30,398 It makes me think that I'm goin' crazy. 701 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,166 Now Abbie sees them also, right, Donna? 702 00:33:32,168 --> 00:33:34,535 Right. That's something that shuts her down. 703 00:33:34,537 --> 00:33:35,803 It scares her. 704 00:33:35,805 --> 00:33:40,641 If she's seen half the things I've seen, then... 705 00:33:40,643 --> 00:33:42,643 I can't imagine. 706 00:33:42,645 --> 00:33:44,779 All right, so what do these shadow figures want? 707 00:33:44,781 --> 00:33:46,814 They want to abduct or they want to kill. 708 00:33:50,453 --> 00:33:52,020 I don't want you guys goin' in the pool, 709 00:33:52,022 --> 00:33:55,390 especially the kids, because when I was outside, 710 00:33:55,392 --> 00:33:58,092 I was seein' this shadow person goin' into the pool. 711 00:33:58,094 --> 00:34:00,428 And I saw that thing, 712 00:34:00,430 --> 00:34:02,697 like, people swimming and then yanking them down 713 00:34:02,699 --> 00:34:07,435 by their feet and tryin' to drown 'em. 714 00:34:07,437 --> 00:34:11,606 Now this house sits on what used to be a 250-acre farm. 715 00:34:11,608 --> 00:34:13,441 And in the middle of that farm was that huge quarry 716 00:34:13,443 --> 00:34:15,009 where the murder took place. 717 00:34:15,011 --> 00:34:16,611 The other thing I found out about the quarry 718 00:34:16,613 --> 00:34:17,945 is that two young people 719 00:34:17,947 --> 00:34:22,316 drowned there under very mysterious circumstances. 720 00:34:22,318 --> 00:34:24,752 First kid was on August 22nd, 1987. 721 00:34:24,754 --> 00:34:28,389 A 14-year-old boy by the name of Henry Oglesby 722 00:34:28,391 --> 00:34:31,526 went swimming there with some friends. 723 00:34:31,528 --> 00:34:34,762 And I got a picture of Henry right here. 724 00:34:34,764 --> 00:34:36,364 He jumped into about 10 feet of water 725 00:34:36,366 --> 00:34:39,133 and he never came back up. 726 00:34:39,135 --> 00:34:41,035 Almost 2 years later, in 1989, 727 00:34:41,037 --> 00:34:44,272 a 25-year-old by the name of David Wayne Ellison 728 00:34:44,274 --> 00:34:46,207 did the same exact thing. 729 00:34:46,209 --> 00:34:49,677 He went swimming, jumped in, and never resurfaced. 730 00:34:49,679 --> 00:34:53,247 These were two healthy young men. 731 00:34:53,249 --> 00:34:55,817 Now you said these shadow people are all over the damn place. 732 00:34:55,819 --> 00:34:59,120 Yes. Is it possible they could have caused these kids to drown? 733 00:34:59,122 --> 00:35:02,557 I think so. 734 00:35:02,559 --> 00:35:03,825 There's actually been cases 735 00:35:03,827 --> 00:35:05,726 where individuals have seen shadow people 736 00:35:05,728 --> 00:35:09,831 and then have had things like heart attacks. 737 00:35:09,833 --> 00:35:11,466 The feeling of lethargy 738 00:35:11,468 --> 00:35:15,903 because they will literally suck the breath out of you. 739 00:35:15,905 --> 00:35:19,540 Now that I hear it, it's all fitting together. 740 00:35:19,542 --> 00:35:22,977 I've had more breathing problems, you know, 741 00:35:22,979 --> 00:35:24,212 um, like that. 742 00:35:24,214 --> 00:35:26,814 So, I mean, it -- it's just... 743 00:35:26,816 --> 00:35:28,416 it's concerning. 744 00:35:28,418 --> 00:35:30,451 Now, Amy, Andy might be downplaying things, 745 00:35:30,453 --> 00:35:34,222 but he was doing renovations and got seriously sick. 746 00:35:34,224 --> 00:35:37,458 It's bad. I think he was attacked up there. 747 00:35:37,460 --> 00:35:41,229 And he hurt for over a week. He likes to play it down. 748 00:35:41,231 --> 00:35:42,630 Now do you think that's from the shadow people? 749 00:35:42,632 --> 00:35:43,798 Or is that somethin' else? 750 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,567 That's more than likely the shadow people. 751 00:35:46,569 --> 00:35:47,935 Like, slowly, they're draining, 752 00:35:47,937 --> 00:35:51,439 literally taking the life from you. 753 00:35:51,441 --> 00:35:52,907 We're being held captive. 754 00:35:52,909 --> 00:35:54,542 Yeah. 755 00:35:58,515 --> 00:36:03,651 The biggest threat in your house is a demonic presence. 756 00:36:04,954 --> 00:36:06,721 It's very powerful. 757 00:36:06,723 --> 00:36:08,222 One of the individuals that I got 758 00:36:08,224 --> 00:36:12,226 that it's influencing was in the pink room. 759 00:36:12,228 --> 00:36:13,561 That's Abbie's room. 760 00:36:13,563 --> 00:36:16,564 I got that there was a lot of issues 761 00:36:16,566 --> 00:36:19,033 with the person in that room. 762 00:36:19,035 --> 00:36:22,303 And that this thing is really essentially 763 00:36:22,305 --> 00:36:23,771 at the root of that problem. 764 00:36:23,773 --> 00:36:25,973 And all those fears and traumas 765 00:36:25,975 --> 00:36:30,211 that are taking place are being created by this thing. 766 00:36:30,213 --> 00:36:32,046 It can change forms. 767 00:36:32,048 --> 00:36:34,182 There's a lot of trickery and faces it can take. 768 00:36:34,184 --> 00:36:37,318 Where's it at? I mean, is it here with us, in the house? 769 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:41,155 Or is it... - Yes, it is. 770 00:36:41,157 --> 00:36:43,824 I feel -- I had a feelin' that it was. 771 00:36:43,826 --> 00:36:45,726 So I'm not crazy. 772 00:36:45,728 --> 00:36:47,228 No. 773 00:36:47,230 --> 00:36:50,198 One of the sketches that I had done was 774 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:55,136 of a moment when it was tricking the living person 775 00:36:55,138 --> 00:36:59,073 into thinking it was a deceased relative. 776 00:37:08,318 --> 00:37:10,051 Jeez. 777 00:37:18,628 --> 00:37:21,362 It looks just like Abbie. 778 00:37:21,364 --> 00:37:23,197 It makes me so mad. 779 00:37:23,199 --> 00:37:24,832 I should've done somethin' sooner. 780 00:37:27,203 --> 00:37:30,538 I'm worried. 781 00:37:30,540 --> 00:37:33,941 So now this is not how the demon looked when you saw it, right? 782 00:37:33,943 --> 00:37:36,010 So what did it look like when you saw it? 783 00:37:36,012 --> 00:37:38,145 I had a sketch done. 784 00:37:38,147 --> 00:37:39,847 Another one? Okay. 785 00:37:43,653 --> 00:37:45,519 God. Well, this would scare the **** out of me, 786 00:37:45,521 --> 00:37:47,255 I'll tell ya that. 787 00:37:53,096 --> 00:37:54,829 That's my -- that's my room. 788 00:37:57,333 --> 00:37:58,833 At night, I saw the -- 789 00:37:58,835 --> 00:38:02,169 I saw it completely black out the TV in my room. 790 00:38:02,171 --> 00:38:04,472 It was him lookin' down at me. 791 00:38:04,474 --> 00:38:07,275 It scared me to death. It took the color out of my skin. 792 00:38:07,277 --> 00:38:10,478 And till this day, I- I don't forget it. 793 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:14,215 So, Donna, is this the yellow-eyed thing you saw? 794 00:38:14,217 --> 00:38:16,550 Yeah. 795 00:38:16,552 --> 00:38:18,019 All right, so what does this thing want? 796 00:38:18,021 --> 00:38:21,555 I feel like, the, demon 797 00:38:21,557 --> 00:38:24,525 has really attached itself to Abbie. 798 00:38:26,629 --> 00:38:28,129 And I think it's already 799 00:38:28,131 --> 00:38:31,732 influencing her to become depressed, 800 00:38:31,734 --> 00:38:34,635 um, possibly harm herself. 801 00:38:34,637 --> 00:38:38,973 And you guys aren't the first to be influenced by this thing. 802 00:38:38,975 --> 00:38:41,676 That sucker's old. 803 00:38:41,678 --> 00:38:43,244 It upsets me, makes me mad 804 00:38:43,246 --> 00:38:45,846 that something could have that power, you know, 805 00:38:45,848 --> 00:38:47,848 to do that. 806 00:38:47,850 --> 00:38:51,252 That fits right in with what they do -- self-harm, 807 00:38:51,254 --> 00:38:54,288 harm to others, divide and conquer. 808 00:38:54,290 --> 00:38:58,059 It makes me just want to put the family in the car 809 00:38:58,061 --> 00:38:59,360 and not come back. 810 00:39:20,267 --> 00:39:22,367 Now every once in a while, a client has a portal, 811 00:39:22,369 --> 00:39:23,668 and that's bad news. 812 00:39:23,670 --> 00:39:26,237 Shadow people come up even less, 813 00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:28,573 and that's usually really bad news. 814 00:39:28,575 --> 00:39:30,141 This is the first case I've worked with Amy 815 00:39:30,143 --> 00:39:33,812 where you have a portal, shadow people, and a demon. 816 00:39:33,814 --> 00:39:35,680 Honestly, I have no idea what she's gonna say. 817 00:39:35,682 --> 00:39:39,651 But unfortunately, I got a feeling you won't like it. 818 00:39:45,158 --> 00:39:47,258 As we were going along, I'm like, 819 00:39:47,260 --> 00:39:49,561 "Well this could be done or that could be done." 820 00:39:49,563 --> 00:39:54,999 And then, I went upstairs to talk to the positive dead. 821 00:39:55,001 --> 00:39:59,737 And what they said, very loud, very clearly, was, "Move." 822 00:40:04,744 --> 00:40:07,178 There's several things that you would need to do 823 00:40:07,180 --> 00:40:08,880 prior to moving. 824 00:40:08,882 --> 00:40:13,451 You would need to have a type of exorcism 825 00:40:13,453 --> 00:40:15,320 of Abbie. 826 00:40:15,322 --> 00:40:18,523 I don't recommend exorcisms for -- for children, 827 00:40:18,525 --> 00:40:21,960 um, but this is absolutely necessary. 828 00:40:21,962 --> 00:40:24,329 So the next thing that needs to be done 829 00:40:24,331 --> 00:40:27,198 is a blessing for the entire family 830 00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:30,635 before the move, by a holy person. 831 00:40:30,637 --> 00:40:36,875 And then all three of the kids should see a psychotherapist. 832 00:40:36,877 --> 00:40:39,744 There's a lot of PTSD that's going on here 833 00:40:39,746 --> 00:40:41,579 of things that they've seen. 834 00:40:41,581 --> 00:40:42,947 They're gonna be terrified 835 00:40:42,949 --> 00:40:45,183 that this is something that's gonna happen again. 836 00:40:45,185 --> 00:40:47,151 Do you think that that's... 837 00:40:47,153 --> 00:40:49,921 this thing has probably caused her condition? 838 00:40:49,923 --> 00:40:51,689 Yes. 839 00:40:51,691 --> 00:40:57,128 And I think her seeing a psychotherapist will help. 840 00:40:57,130 --> 00:40:59,998 I feel bad for puttin' my children through this. 841 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,567 I feel like I've let it happen. 842 00:41:02,569 --> 00:41:08,773 Um, and then also, I cannot believe it. 843 00:41:08,775 --> 00:41:12,043 You gonna do what Amy suggests you guys do? 844 00:41:12,045 --> 00:41:14,112 - We'll move. - Okay. 845 00:41:14,114 --> 00:41:16,681 Wishing we would've done it earlier. 846 00:41:16,683 --> 00:41:18,416 I'm willing to do anything. 847 00:41:18,418 --> 00:41:19,884 Well, the thing is, you're gonna have a fresh start 848 00:41:19,886 --> 00:41:21,519 and get your kids back. 849 00:41:21,521 --> 00:41:23,054 You can live in a tent. 850 00:41:23,056 --> 00:41:25,690 What-- whatever you need to do, as long as your family's safe. 851 00:41:25,692 --> 00:41:28,493 As long as I still have them, that's all that matters. 852 00:41:28,495 --> 00:41:30,895 Right. 853 00:41:30,897 --> 00:41:33,398 Between a demon, a portal, and shadow people, 854 00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:36,634 the only way Donna and Andy can protect their family 855 00:41:36,636 --> 00:41:39,370 is to move as far away as possible. 856 00:41:39,372 --> 00:41:42,607 If they do that and exorcise the demon attached to Abbie, 857 00:41:42,609 --> 00:41:45,343 they should lead a peaceful life. 858 00:41:45,393 --> 00:41:49,943 Repair and Synchronization by Easy Subtitles Synchronizer 1.0.0.0 65322

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