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He can do physical stuff.

He can touch you.

Your mom was murdered right here in this room?

Yes, she was.

She's pissed.

She feels like she's being tortured.

A shadow person started to charge at me.

I think that a living person was attacked.

He shoots himself in the mouth,

and the bullet comes out the top of his head.

What is this thing?

A demon.

He doesn't want anybody here.

I just hear death.

My name is Amy Allan.

God.

It's like, "I'm going to get you."

I see dead people.

Her face was all demonic.

I speak to dead people.

He's like, "You think you can stop me? Because you can't."

And they speak to me.

What is he trying to do? Kill them.

But there's only one way to know if my findings are real.

Something happened. Bam, bam, bam!

I rely on my partner.

I'm Steve Di Schiavi.

I'm a retired New York City homicide detective.

Am I seeing what I think I'm seeing?

And I know every person, every house has secrets.

They're everywhere.

It's my job to reveal them.

This guy's got the markings of a serial killer.

But Steve and I never speak...

We never communicate during an investigation.

...until the very end...

Is this dead guy doing that to her?

...when we uncover if it's safe for you to stay...

That's it.

...or time to get out.

Somebody's gonna die over there soon, yeah.

I'm in the small town of Lake City, Florida,

about an hour west of Jacksonville.

I got a call from a woman

who was crying hysterically on the phone.

She says her house is a war zone.

She says, if things don't change soon,

someone's gonna get hurt really bad.

I'm hoping Amy and I can help her out,

'cause she sounded terrible.

Before Amy arrives, I need to make sure

any photographs, religious symbols,

or personal items that may influence her findings

are removed or hidden from sight.

When I'm finished,

the location will be ready for tonight's walk.

There's, like, a lot of pain here.

This one guy in particular who died,

he's not, like, human.

He's, tall, really tall.

Um, but he is kind of like an orange, red --

like, that kind of a color.

He...thinks, like,

humans, I guess, are interesting,

and he likes to imitate them.

So when he is imitating them,

he takes on a more human, form.

He's not a good thing.

So, Regina, I'm glad I'm here now,

'cause when we spoke on the phone,

you sounded pretty desperate.

My nieces, my cousins' kids, my nephews --

they won't come over no more 'cause they're terrified.

Well, do you have children of your own?

No, me and my husband can't have kids.

It breaks my heart.

All right, so, give me a list of what's happening.

Knocking and banging and things move around.

Um, we've seen shadow people -- apparitions.

Um, and lately, it's been getting kind of violent

with people getting scratched, pushed, shoved.

Okay, so, when did you guys move in?

Um, we moved in, um, 2005.

And we moved in to take care of my husband's grandmother.

Well, what can you tell me about it?

His mother was killed.

Your husband's mother?

In this house?

Who did it?

Her brother.

My husband will tell you more about it.

Okay.

Now, you said you moved here to take care

of your husband's grandmother.

Did she witness the murder?

Yes.

Okay, is she still alive?

No.

Okay, when did she pass?

Um, 2008.

Here's a picture of Dorothy.

And how old was she when she passed?

Um, 92.

Where did she die? And what'd she die of?

Um, natural causes. And here, at the house.

She had dementia.

It was a hard thing 'cause that's the first time

I've ever really watched somebody die.

Okay.

Have you done anything to try to fix things here?

I have saged the house.

I have salted the yard.

There was always something about the side yard

I've never liked.

Why don't you like it outside?

One morning -- it was early --

I went outside the door and looked up.

And there was, like, a --

a shadow person about 6 foot...

maybe bigger -- started to charge at me.

And I'm like, "Whoa. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no."

There's something out there, something bad.

Someone put a barrier up.

It's keeping this tall thing out.

He can't come in here and do anything.

And he's angry about it.

Is it just focused on this house?

Yes.

It looks at it as, like, a challenge.

He says that he will find a way.

He will. He will find a way.

Okay, what are you experiencing in here?

Um, when I was sitting on the couch,

it was sitting behind me. Okay.

And I seen, like, a light out of the corner of my eye.

I looked at it. And it came down.

But it had Uncle Jack's face on it

as it disappeared in the chair.

All right. Who's Uncle Jack?

My husband's uncle who was involved

with the murder-suicide.

Were you on any medication?

No. Nothing like that.

That woulda freaked me out a little bit.

Okay. Anything else?

Last night, I was out there in the laundry room.

Something came up and hit me in my back.

It felt like somebody had, like, a knife or a screwdriver,

and he went down into it.

Getting assaulted, basically is what's going on. Yes.

Anything else going on?

Little shadow person, about yea big.

He runs around.

All right.

So, this -- the shadow, how big are we talking?

Um, about that big.

Well, what about the dog casting a shadow

as it's running around?

When I see it, usually,

I can see my two dogs in here with me.

He can run...after them... and follow them.

You mean when they leave here?

Yes.

I see him, like, in a car.

He says he gets really little, when he does that.

Can you describe what it looks like when it's small?

It looks like a troll.

But the thing is, like, it's really muscular.

Do the living see it?

I see a living person looking out...the door

and seeing it, like, quick outside.

And I -- you know, I would be concerned

about him trying to injure them in the car.

What is this thing?

Some kind of demon.

So, what's going on in here?

I constantly feel like I'm being watched.

But it's coming from the outside,

like something's out the window,

looking inward.

Just...I feel like somebody's out there,

standing there, watching me.

All right. Anything else happening in here?

Yeah. I was scratched in here.

Here's the pictures of them.

One's on my chest and on my lower stomach.

That's pretty bad scratches. These are pretty deep.

Yeah.

You sure the dog didn't do this?

Dogs aren't allowed in my bed.

So there's no way.

So how the hell are you sleeping at night

knowing that, you know, this could happen to you?

I have a lot of nightmares.

Now, describe the nightmares to me.

What are we talking about?

Bad things happening to my husband.

Sometimes, they're violent.

There's a lot of energy in this house.

That's why the dead are so attracted to this place.

There's a military officer.

He's like...

"Stand down.

Stand down."

And I feel sick. I feel sick.

Like, I feel his fear, like, shaking.

He can bother the living.

If he feels like people are too much in his space,

he wigs out.

He can do physical stuff.

He can touch them, like...

poking really hard.

He can make you feel sick.

He can touch you.

He's like, "You don't want to see when I get angry."

Bad.

So, John, I know this is not easy to talk about.

But your mom was murdered right here in this room.

Yes, she was.

It happened right here. Her chair was sitting here.

Assassinated her.

He killed himself 20 minutes later.

The bullet hole's still up in the ceiling right there.

Wow.

Now, what about your grandmother? Where was she?

She was sitting over there in the corner in her chair.

And when it happened, she got up and ran outside.

This is my mom, Becky,

and my Grandma Dorothy and my Uncle Jack.

And this is the uncle that -- that did this thing?

Yes, sir.

How old was your mom when she passed?

59.

What kind of woman was she?

She was a nurse -- the head nurse.

She didn't get her way... there'd be hell to pay.

She was very difficult to be around.

Sounds like you guys had a tough relationship. Yes.

So, John, any indication as to why your uncle snapped?

He was...

a military vet.

I think he had PTSD.

He was...real crazy.

Okay, so this man was a troubled guy?

Yes.

You find it hard staying here knowing this happened here?

Yes.

Do you ever think maybe you should leave this place

because of what happened?

Yes, but it's financial reasons.

We can't.

Do you think...any one of those people are here?

I feel my ma.

And I s-- I hear my grandma.

What about your Uncle Jack?

I think he's here, too.

I just feel his presence.

Okay.

I'm seeing the military guy again.

He's tough and very, territorial.

I think he lived here.

I feel like he had a lot to do with this house.

Like, he's like, "Get the **** out."

He's got issues. He's got mega issues.

It is terrible back here.

Have you had any experiences?

Yes.

Okay. Tell me what happened.

I was standing in the middle of the living room one evening.

Okay.

And it felt like something shoved me

and on my lower part of my leg.

And I went forward into the window.

And you're sure you didn't trip?

I didn't trip. I was just standing there.

You're lucky you didn't cut an artery.

Something very bad... happened here.

You know what?

I think that a living person was attacked in here,

like, bad.

I wanna say this is that dude -- the angry military guy.

Think I hear glass breaking.

And I'm feeling it, like, on me.

I'm, like, falling down.

And there's, like, glass everywhere.

Like, I'm being pushed. I can't breathe.

They end up on the floor.

This angry man, he doesn't want anybody here.

Why'd you bring me out here?

I...have a feeling

of an ominous presence in the woods.

Are you feeling it right now?

Yes. I --

What -- what are you feeling?

Something's watching me... over in the woods.

It's looking at me right now.

Where's it looking at you from?

It's over there.

But you can't see it.

I can't see it. But I feel it.

All right. Anything else?

Banging.

Okay. What kind of banging?

Like somebody knocking on the door? Yeah.

Like, cabinets opening and closing.

I was in the kitchen one time.

And, there was a dish on the sink.

It fell off the counter, onto the floor.

It broke my toe.

And so what makes you think that's paranormal?

Nobody touched it. I didn't touch it.

Think it was pushed.

It's just devious.

I don't know what it is.

There's a woman.

She has an accent.

I feel like this is really recent.

She says that if she would not have died,

none of this would be going on.

I'm gonna say that she lived here.

She was cooking and cleaning all the time.

She's slamming, slamming, slamming,

banging, banging, banging.

She says she keeps trying to leave.

But she says someone keeps --

living person --

a living person keeps pulling her back,

keeps calling her back.

This is a living female doing this to her.

She's sleeping. Living lady's sleeping.

She goes into her dream.

And she gives the living woman nightmares.

She's pissed.

She feels like she's being tortured.

She says that they know her,

that they know her.

They know she's here.

They know she's here.

They know she's here.

"Why won't they let me go?

Why won't they let me go?

They know I'm here.

Let me go.

Let me go."

Well, obviously, the first thing

I'm gonna look into is this murder-suicide.

Now, John gave me a lot

of good information about why his uncle might've snapped.

But I wanna know exactly what happened that day.

I'm heading over to meet with a Jacksonville medical examiner

who's gonna take me through the crime second by second.

The murder takes place September 19, 2005.

Can you take me through that, exactly what happened?

Apparently, the sister, Becky, is sitting on the recliner.

Jack comes up behind her

and shoots her one time in the back of her head.

And she probably turns to see what happened.

And then, she takes a second shot

to her left temple area.

Based on the crime scene photographs,

it doesn't seem like she moved anywhere.

She just died right there in the recliner.

The woman who is being trapped here

won't talk about her death.

She's, like, really trying to block me

from getting how she died.

She said...

Let's just say,

like, her death was a freak accident.

Um, she was young.

She was only, 52.

It's wicked bad.

She wants to leave.

All right, so she basically didn't even

know what hit her?

Probably not.

Well, Jack -- how does he kill himself?

He shoots himself in the mouth.

And the bullet comes out the top of his head,

like you see right here.

And then, he falls back and dies in that hallway.

Okay, so, Doctor,

I'm assuming a toxicology was done?

Yes.

He had multiple medications.

They were not illegal drugs

or drugs of abuse that were in his system.

Do we know what he was taking drugs for?

He suffered from PTSD,

because he was in the Vietnam War.

Apparently, he was a helicopter pilot

and was shot down twice.

Okay. In addition, he was depressed.

He suffered from Parkinson's disease.

He had a heart condition -- apparently, had a heart attack

prior to him coming to live with his sister,

who was gonna take care of him.

And do we have any idea

why he might have wanted to kill his sister?

His mother had signed over the deed of the house

to his sister.

And this right here is the deed.

So he got cut out altogether.

That's correct.

He had, um, what we interpret to be a suicide note.

This is very brief.

He says he's depressed.

"Becky is mean to us."

And then, he says he didn't want any CPR.

He didn't want any resuscitation.

So he wanted to make sure that he would die.

I feel like he had a lot to do with this house

'cause he's like,

"Get the **** out."

The angry dead man who attacks the living

is following me everywhere I go.

He's furious that I'm here.

But I'm not leaving until I find out

who he was in life.

He had a heart attack.

Feel like he started dying here or died here.

Feel like he was in wars.

He fought in wars.

And he had injuries or something.

His legs feel...so weird...

...like, burning, like, they're on fire.

He is angry, angry, angry, angry, angry.

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So far, I've got clients being physically assaulted

in a house where a murder-suicide took place.

But I need to see if there's anything else

that's gonna help my investigation.

Reading two old newspaper articles,

I find one of the original owners

of my clients' property was a sheriff.

Turns out a local Syrian couple was murdered.

And he was caught right in the middle of the scandal.

So, I'm heading over to meet with a local professor

who says he's got information

that will definitely help my case.

The sheriff that lived on my clients' property,

what can you tell me about him?

Sheriff Wiley "Babe" Douglass, born in 1885.

He became chief of police in the city in 1920.

He must have been very popular, very charismatic

because he ran for sheriff and won.

This is him in his uniform

shortly after winning that election.

What kind of sheriff was he, though?

I mean, what are we talking about?

Well, he was corrupt.

Sheriff Douglass was accused of bootlegging,

running gambling operations.

And he was also accused of selling young women

into prostitution.

Geez.

Why exactly does he come onto my clients' property?

Do we know that?

Well, Steve, he purchases your clients' property in 1928.

All right. So let's get to the murders.

What exactly happened?

The Romey family, they're a successful,

Syrian family, immigrants.

They own a small produce store.

The Romeys' son, Esau, is involved in an auto accident.

And the mother, Fannie Romey, doesn't like the way

that the city chief of police handled the investigation.

And so she contacts the chief of police.

She calls him a liar.

Back then, you didn't call

the chief of police in any Florida city a liar.

Okay. So what happens next?

Well, Steve, on May 17, 1929,

the chief of police goes to the Romeys' store,

with two of his men and also one of Sheriff Douglass' men.

Okay.

But Douglass is not at the scene when this all goes down.

That's correct.

All right, so when they show up, what happens?

There's a huge altercation.

They actually take Mr. Romey,

and they actually pistol-whip him.

And he's knocked unconscious. He's on the ground.

At that point, Mrs. Romey comes into the store.

She panics.

She grabs a pistol the family has kept as shopkeepers.

And she actually shoots the chief,

wounds him, not seriously.

Then the police return fire. She's killed.

And at that time,

the police didn't know this, but she actually was pregnant.

Geez. All right.

And so at that point,

the police pull her husband, Mr. Romey,

Nola Romey, out of the store.

They pull the son, Esau, out of the store, as well.

They actually bring them to separate jails.

Later that evening, a mob comes to the city jail.

They abduct Mr. Romey.

They take him out of the jail.

They shoot him 13 times, murder him.

These were some articles I found on the case.

Even though he wasn't at either one

of these crime scenes,

his culpability is -- is pretty high.

And, got away with, basically, murder.

So after all is said and done, is,

Babe still on my clients' property at this point?

He is on your clients' property

until the day he dies in 1947.

And at that point, he is 61 years old.

He goes out in his car. He's driving.

He has a heart attack and dies.

Okay.

I'm seeing that red-orange thing again.

He's, like, really racist,

which is weird 'cause he's, like, not human.

Who is it racist towards?

I think really everybody.

This thing, he gloats about how,

when he first came here,

he was able to influence and manipulate men.

He would, like, do **** to people.

Like, cause them to turn against each other, death,

fighting and -- and all this kind of bad ****

mostly people killing other people.

But he had a great success rate.

You know, one other thing caught my attention in research --

A woman who used to live on the property

died in a fire right on Regina and John's land.

I'm heading over to meet with a local genealogist

who says that tragedy could have been easily prevented.

Why'd you bring me here?

This house is very similar to the house

that Louisa Smith Markham lived in

when she died from the fire.

What about the fire? What happened?

So in 1886, Louisa, um,

was taking care of the youngest child, who was Elton.

He was severely ill, had, a real bad cold.

So she bundled him up and was --

was sitting at the rocking chair in front of the fire.

Well, her nightgown caught on fire.

And as that occurred,

the first instinct of a mother, of course,

is to save the child.

Right. Which she did.

She got Elton away from her.

And by that time,

she was completely engulfed in flames, screaming.

The house is very small. Everybody would have seen it.

It was so tragic

because the children would have seen her die.

How old was she when she died?

She was 32.

They're lucky that the whole house didn't burn down.

So she was a hero, really. She saved the kid.

Right.

I saw several disturbing things on my walk.

But what really concerned me was the angry man

attacking a living woman.

He was an elderly man...

pretty much bald.

He has, like, a big belly.

He was, like, pushing her head into the wall.

Was this what you saw?

Yes.

Now that Amy and I have completed our investigations,

we're ready to reveal our findings

to each other and our clients for the first time.

Amy, I want you to meet Regina and her husband, John.

Now, here's the issue -- Regina can't have children.

So she's always filled the house here with nieces and nephews.

But the activity's gotten so violent, they won't come over.

And Regina doesn't even know if it's safe

for them to live here.

So with that being said, I'm gonna turn it over to Amy

and have her talk about her walk.

When I first arrived,

I saw this being outside.

And it's very strange-looking, very tall.

And it was also -- The color of it was interesting

because it was kind of like a reddish orange.

This entity cannot get into the house.

To him, or to it, something or somebody

put up a barrier around this property

that is keeping him out.

And because of that, he's become very obsessed

and fixated on finding a way in.

I saged the house.

Okay.

I salted the yard.

Now, would that be what's keeping him out?

Yes, so, then, more than likely,

that's probably the barrier

that is keeping him at bay.

Even though he can't get into the home,

he can follow you off of the property.

I saw him get into a vehicle with a living person.

And when he travels with you,

he kind of shrinks himself down

so he has little arms, little legs.

But they're very, like, strong.

My concern with him doing that is

that he could cause you to have a car accident.

Well, that's pretty interesting.

We got a lot to discuss now.

Why don't you tell Amy, Regina,

about the shadow figure that rushed you outside?

There was a dark, 6- footish figure,

black, black, black.

And it charged at me.

I'm like, "No.

Go away."

And it vanished.

Now, Regina has a problem

where she actually sleeps facing the wall because...

'Cause I feel like I'm being watched.

that could be him.

He's ob-- obsessed.

What's unusual about it was

that there was no recollection of where he originated from.

He stated that he's never been human, ever.

Even though he's never been human, he's a racist.

I'm not exactly certain what it is.

Um, but I would say, you know,

possibly a demon.

Not good.

I thought it was evil.

It was dark, very dark.

He was saying that he was able to influence men

to kill one another and wants that to continue.

But he's a racist in general.

Yes.

A lot of what you're saying makes me think about a man

that actually lived on your property

from the '20s to the '40s.

And his name was Wiley Douglass.

Everybody knew him as "Babe."

I actually got a photo of him.

He became the county sheriff.

And in 1929, there was a Syrian family

in town known as the Romey family

that ran a grocery store.

It was real nearby.

Now, the kid of the family

got into some kind of a car accident.

And they didn't like the way the police handled it.

So now, the mom, Fannie, calls the chief of police

to complain about how they handled things.

And she basically called him a liar.

Well, that didn't sit too well with the guys.

On May 17, 1929,

the police chief, two deputies

and one of the sheriff's deputies go to the store.

So now, when the cops entered the location,

they pistol-whipped the dad, Nola,

and knocked him out to the ground.

The mom, Fannie, saw her husband lying on the ground,

thought he was dead.

She picked up the gun they kept in the store.

And she shot at the police.

The police returned fire and killed her.

Now, this is where it gets really screwed-up.

The son and Nola were arrested and brought to separate jails.

Now get this -- That night, a mob comes in, drags out Nola.

And they shot him 13 times.

And then they dumped his body in some farm,

wind up making national news.

So, now, could any of that, what happened,

had to do with this red-orange guy outside?

I do believe that,

more than likely, he influenced the cop

to make poor decisions

and cause the deaths of others.

So, what else did you see?

The next person that I met was an interesting character.

She, looks to be, in her 50s.

She's trying to leave.

But a female here keeps pulling her back.

She said that she's getting called directly by name.

She said it's torturous,

and she's furious about it because she wants to leave.

And she said to me

that she goes into the female's dreams

and gives this female nightmares.

And she is talking to her in the dreams,

saying, "Let me go.

Let me go. Let me go."

Well, you're the only female that lives in the house.

Right. I have different bad dreams.

I've always had bad dreams, though.

It's because you're, more than likely, a medium.

I've always been able to hear things

and see things

and talk to things that's not there.

Yeah. That makes sense.

This dead woman, she also is capable of slamming doors.

She also has a fixation in the kitchen.

She showed me her slamming the oven door and banging it.

Now, John,

you talked to me about noises you heard in the kitchen, right?

Yes.

I get done with the dishes and stuff.

And I'll come back out here and sit.

And it sound like somebody's in there,

messing with the dishes.

You think that's the woman doing that?

I think so.

Now, did you get any idea

who this woman might have been in life?

I think she might have lived in this house.

She showed me images of her cooking and cleaning

all the time.

And I sensed

that someone in this house knew about her dying.

But she wouldn't talk to me about her death at all.

She kept blocking me from seeing it.

It's time we tell Amy about the 1,000-pound gorilla

in the room.

John's mother, Becky,

was murdered right over there, in that corner.

My goodness.

To make things worse,

the murderer was her brother, John's Uncle Jack.

Got it.

Now, it happened on September 19, 2005.

That night, John's mom was sitting in a chair

right there

when his Uncle Jack came up this hallway.

He put two bullets in her head and killed her.

He went halfway down this hallway here,

put the gun in his mouth, and shot himself in the head

and killed himself.

My gosh.

John's mom, she was 59 years old at the time she died.

Tell Amy about your mom, what kind of woman she was.

Very headstrong,

where if it wasn't her way, it was the highway.

She'd get mad.

At the snap of a finger, she'd get mad at anything.

Your uncle, was he ever in the military?

Yes, he was. He was in the Army.

He was a helicopter pilot.

And he was shot down twice.

My God.

Okay. Got it.

It sounds like you might have seen Becky, John's mom.

I have a picture of Becky.

Okay. Yeah. Let me see her.

This is Becky.

Yeah. That's who I saw.

I just don't want her to be stuck here.

Regina's accidentally trapping her here, though.

Yes.

Which happens to a lot of mediums that I meet.

We like to have dead people around us.

So, then I met another person.

And it was in the laundry room.

When I walked in there, I felt that a living person, female,

was being violently attacked by an older, deceased male.

And to me, it was so intense, it nearly killed this person.

And I think the living person was, pushed to the ground.

I saw, like, a pane of glass, um,

break and shatter onto my head.

You know, everybody's getting attacked here.

I was standing, looking out the window.

And it felt like something pushed me,

the middle part of my leg.

And I fell forward into the four panes of glass

and broke the glass.

He's lucky he didn't cut his wrist open.

Right.

The other night, I was in there,

taking stuff out of the dryer.

And it felt like somebody took

either a very narrow knife or a sharp blade...

...and hit me right back here.

I felt it here.

And I could feel it through my skin.

I had a sketch done of the attack I saw.

Should be interesting.

I'm sorry, guys, to even show you this.

What are you thinking when you see this?

Jack.

You're thinking of your Uncle Jack?

That's why I turned away.

I know you did.

I don't need to see it. I don't wanna see it.

Can we take him off the table?

Yeah. We'll take him off.

There we go.

Did you get anything about this guy in life?

Yes, I did.

Let's talk about that

before we go jumping the gun.

I got that this male has extreme issues.

He's incredibly angry.

He was a very tough guy in life.

I got that he had a heart attack at some point.

I got that there was something extremely wrong

with his hips and legs.

It hurt so freaking bad, it felt like there was fire shooting

through my legs and into my hips.

I got that he was in a war

and that he had suffered injuries from that war.

I got that he lived and died here

and that he was extremely territorial about this house.

He didn't want me or anybody else here.

Well, remember when I told you about John's mom

being killed by her own brother?

Okay. Now, his name was Jack.

He had a ton of issues, both mental and physical.

He was a helicopter pilot in the Vietnam War.

He was shot down twice.

John believes he suffered from PTSD.

He was also a physical wreck, though.

He suffered from Parkinson's and walked with a walker.

Okay. Got it.

Now, you mentioned before

that you thought he had a heart attack.

Yes.

He did have a heart attack.

And that's why John's mom told him to move in here,

so she could take care of him.

Now, the family thinks there's a couple of reasons

that he might have snapped.

PTSD was the main reason.

Through the fact that their mother, Dorothy,

was giving the house to Becky and not to Jack.

The territorial.

Okay. Yeah.

Do you have any doubts that it could be him?

No.

Okay.

Absolutely not.

Absolutely not.

Why is he being so violent?

He still wants the house.

He wants this for him.

He coulda killed you.

Yes, he could have.

So, John, your family lived here.

They died here.

And, apparently, they're still here.

Question is, how can we move them on

and take care of this thing outside and to get your lives

back to where there's children in this house again?

For that, I'm gonna turn it over to Amy.

I do think

that thing outside is a...agent of chaos.

I think he may have influenced

what happened in your family.

That being said, I'm very happy

that you had the insight and wherewithal

to put down that salt.

But this sucker is tenacious.

And he will get in eventually.

The first thing that needs to be done

is the removal of the dead.

A medium needs to come into the home.

On the first visit, the medium needs to take care of the dead

that you don't know.

Okay.

The second visit is going to be

to assist your mother, um, to move on,

and then, once that's been completed,

to move on to your uncle.

I need for you to recall two really good memories

about your uncle and give those to the medium

because it's only through those memories

that she'll be able to reach him.

Now, this is very important.

Okay.

Hold on for a second.

You seem a little shocked.

I think he is.

- You okay to let go? - Yes.

Okay.

'Cause you don't want them to be here.

You want her to... Move on.

Okay. Good.

The entity is next.

What needs to be done with that situation

is a priest needs to come,

needs to exorcise the outside of your house

and then do a blessing outside of your home.

It's going to keep all negativity out forever.

So, once all these steps are done,

they should feel a difference in the house, right?

Yeah. You'll feel a substantial difference.

This is pretty freaking good news.

Definitely.

We can have the kids to come over and play, you know?

I'm glad you guys called us in.

You know, it broke my heart listening to your story.

But now you can go from the house of basically the dead

to the house of a happy, living family.

Yeah.

I cannot imagine the pain John and Regina feel

knowing they have deceased family members

inside their home.

But I believe if they follow my advice,

they can set them free

and banish the demon outside forever.

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