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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:10,260 --> 00:00:13,530 Their souls can't leave. 2 00:00:13,630 --> 00:00:15,630 It's like there's a war here. 3 00:00:17,170 --> 00:00:19,670 This could manipulate living people 4 00:00:19,770 --> 00:00:21,100 into harming one another. 5 00:00:23,310 --> 00:00:25,470 Get the freak outta my head. 6 00:00:25,580 --> 00:00:28,240 It could kill them. 7 00:00:28,350 --> 00:00:31,180 Turns the ignition to the car, and the whole car blows up. 8 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:33,850 What the **** is happening? 9 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:37,590 There's something very wrong with this land. 10 00:00:37,690 --> 00:00:39,750 I just hear death. 11 00:00:39,860 --> 00:00:42,060 My name is Amy Allan. 12 00:00:42,160 --> 00:00:43,590 God. 13 00:00:43,690 --> 00:00:45,660 He was like, "I'm going to get you." 14 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:46,760 I see dead people. 15 00:00:46,860 --> 00:00:48,030 Her face was all demonic. 16 00:00:48,130 --> 00:00:49,830 I speak to dead people... 17 00:00:49,930 --> 00:00:52,570 He's like, "You think you can stop me? Because you can't." 18 00:00:52,670 --> 00:00:53,970 ...and they speak to me. 19 00:00:54,070 --> 00:00:55,500 - What is he trying to do? - Kill them. 20 00:00:55,610 --> 00:00:58,640 But there's only one way to know if my findings are real. 21 00:00:58,740 --> 00:01:00,640 Something happened. Bam, bam, bam. 22 00:01:00,740 --> 00:01:02,140 I rely on my partner. 23 00:01:02,250 --> 00:01:03,780 I'm Steve Di Schiavi. 24 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:05,510 I'm a retired New York City homicide detective. 25 00:01:05,620 --> 00:01:07,020 Am I seeing what I think I'm seeing? 26 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:10,590 And I know every person, every house has secrets. 27 00:01:10,690 --> 00:01:12,790 - They're everywhere. - It's my job to reveal them. 28 00:01:12,890 --> 00:01:15,690 This guy's got the markings of a serial killer. 29 00:01:15,790 --> 00:01:17,660 But Steve and I never speak... 30 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:19,730 We never communicate during an investigation... 31 00:01:19,830 --> 00:01:20,930 ...until the very end... 32 00:01:21,030 --> 00:01:22,560 Is this dead guy doin' that to her? 33 00:01:22,630 --> 00:01:24,700 ...when we uncover if it's safe for you to stay... 34 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:26,430 That's it. 35 00:01:26,540 --> 00:01:28,600 ...or time to get out. 36 00:01:28,710 --> 00:01:32,170 Somebody is gonna die over there soon. Yeah. 37 00:01:46,790 --> 00:01:48,190 I'm in Youngstown, Ohio. 38 00:01:48,290 --> 00:01:52,290 It's a struggling city about 75 miles east of Cleveland. 39 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:54,160 Now, I got a call from a woman named Lorie. 40 00:01:54,260 --> 00:01:56,870 Her story broke my heart. 41 00:01:56,970 --> 00:02:00,070 She has stage IV cancer and she knows she's gonna die. 42 00:02:00,170 --> 00:02:02,440 But she believes there are forces inside the house 43 00:02:02,540 --> 00:02:04,940 trying to rip her family apart. 44 00:02:05,010 --> 00:02:07,680 Her dying wish is to kick those spirits out 45 00:02:07,780 --> 00:02:10,010 and have her family live there in peace. 46 00:02:10,110 --> 00:02:12,250 I really hope we can help this woman out. 47 00:02:15,920 --> 00:02:17,190 Before Amy arrives, 48 00:02:17,290 --> 00:02:20,390 I clear the house of any leading information. 49 00:02:20,490 --> 00:02:23,460 Family photographs, mementos 50 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:25,030 and even Native American artifacts 51 00:02:25,130 --> 00:02:27,760 need to be covered or removed. 52 00:02:27,860 --> 00:02:29,030 When I'm finished, 53 00:02:29,130 --> 00:02:31,070 the location will be ready for tonight's walk. 54 00:02:40,210 --> 00:02:44,210 So this is very strange. 55 00:02:44,310 --> 00:02:49,650 The thing about this land is that the dead can't die here. 56 00:02:49,750 --> 00:02:51,990 Their souls can't leave. 57 00:02:52,090 --> 00:02:53,890 A lot of 'em are roamin' around. 58 00:02:57,690 --> 00:03:02,360 And they occasionally are walking around in -- 59 00:03:02,470 --> 00:03:03,400 in through the house. 60 00:03:03,500 --> 00:03:05,730 You see? They're trapped. 61 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:09,040 So there's something very wrong with this land. 62 00:03:17,780 --> 00:03:19,050 I know this is tough to talk about, 63 00:03:19,150 --> 00:03:22,350 but you have stage IV cancer. 64 00:03:22,450 --> 00:03:23,850 Yes. 65 00:03:23,950 --> 00:03:26,490 The chances of me living through this... 66 00:03:28,930 --> 00:03:31,060 It's not gonna happen. 67 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:33,600 The doctor said 2 months to live. 68 00:03:33,700 --> 00:03:35,900 So the time I have, 69 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,400 I need to make this house safe. 70 00:03:39,870 --> 00:03:42,270 That's why we needed you. 71 00:03:42,370 --> 00:03:43,570 It's heartbreaking. 72 00:03:43,670 --> 00:03:45,240 But yet, you... 73 00:03:45,340 --> 00:03:47,480 you're more concerned about everybody else but yourself. 74 00:03:47,580 --> 00:03:49,980 Well, of course. They're my family. 75 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:52,250 I'm a Christian. I know where I'm going. 76 00:03:52,350 --> 00:03:54,650 It's okay. 77 00:03:54,750 --> 00:03:56,420 It's just... 78 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:58,990 I don't wanna leave my family this way. 79 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:03,930 It's like there's a war here. 80 00:04:03,990 --> 00:04:06,730 I have to live until it is done. 81 00:04:09,530 --> 00:04:11,800 Who exactly lives in the house now? 82 00:04:11,900 --> 00:04:13,370 My husband and I. 83 00:04:13,470 --> 00:04:16,400 My daughter, um... 84 00:04:16,510 --> 00:04:19,670 moved out recently. 85 00:04:19,810 --> 00:04:22,280 She can't live here. 86 00:04:22,380 --> 00:04:24,850 The house basically drove her out. 87 00:04:24,950 --> 00:04:27,550 Okay. Do you know any history about the house? 88 00:04:27,650 --> 00:04:30,550 My daughter was here with her fiancé Marcus, 89 00:04:30,650 --> 00:04:32,850 and he passed away in the living room. 90 00:04:35,630 --> 00:04:36,990 How long ago was this? 91 00:04:37,090 --> 00:04:39,260 - Three, 4 years ago. - Okay. 92 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:40,960 What did he die of? 93 00:04:41,060 --> 00:04:44,000 Um, some type of heart condition. 94 00:04:44,100 --> 00:04:45,500 So I'll look into that. 95 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:48,240 Lorie, how long have you guys lived here? 96 00:04:48,340 --> 00:04:50,140 - About 19 years. - Okay. 97 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:52,010 Did you ever talk to the previous owners, 98 00:04:52,110 --> 00:04:53,980 if they've had problems or anything like that? 99 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:55,610 My mama owned this home, 100 00:04:55,710 --> 00:05:00,250 and she gave it to us shortly after we got married. 101 00:05:00,350 --> 00:05:01,420 Is your mom still alive? 102 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:03,480 No. She, um... 103 00:05:03,590 --> 00:05:05,250 - This her here? - Yes. 104 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:07,690 - When'd she pass? -2008. 105 00:05:07,790 --> 00:05:09,890 - How old was she? -78. 106 00:05:09,990 --> 00:05:11,230 What'd she die of? 107 00:05:11,330 --> 00:05:13,060 Breast cancer. 108 00:05:16,500 --> 00:05:20,540 So there's a... older woman here. 109 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:23,340 So I guess she recently died or something. 110 00:05:27,180 --> 00:05:30,350 She has very, very short curly hair. 111 00:05:30,410 --> 00:05:32,950 With her, I get a lotta eights. 112 00:05:33,050 --> 00:05:35,780 1998 or 2008. 113 00:05:35,890 --> 00:05:38,090 She was 68. 114 00:05:38,190 --> 00:05:40,820 She was worried about, 115 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:43,360 um, her grandchild. 116 00:05:43,460 --> 00:05:45,230 She's afraid. 117 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:53,200 We've always had activity, but it's gotten a lot worse. 118 00:05:53,300 --> 00:05:55,140 What's goin' on in the house? 119 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:58,570 Voices, things moving, 120 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:02,810 physical attacks, and personality changes. 121 00:06:02,910 --> 00:06:07,450 Okay. What do you mean by personality changes? 122 00:06:07,580 --> 00:06:10,720 My husband. 123 00:06:10,820 --> 00:06:13,150 He's changed so much. 124 00:06:13,260 --> 00:06:14,320 In what way? 125 00:06:14,420 --> 00:06:16,760 There's times when he'll enter a room, 126 00:06:16,860 --> 00:06:18,030 and he's fine. 127 00:06:18,130 --> 00:06:21,960 And he comes back, and he has this glazed mean, 128 00:06:22,070 --> 00:06:23,330 evil look. 129 00:06:23,430 --> 00:06:27,270 I'm scared when it happens. 130 00:06:27,370 --> 00:06:30,740 He'll say something or throw something or punch something, 131 00:06:30,840 --> 00:06:33,170 and then he runs outside. 132 00:06:33,280 --> 00:06:35,910 You don't think it's frustration about you and your sickness? 133 00:06:36,010 --> 00:06:37,310 I'm sure he's frustrated, 134 00:06:37,410 --> 00:06:42,380 but that doesn't cause the outbursts of evil anger. 135 00:06:42,490 --> 00:06:45,990 I've even talked to him about possibly leaving him. 136 00:06:46,090 --> 00:06:49,620 I mean, we've been together 22 years. 137 00:06:49,730 --> 00:06:50,960 You break my heart. 138 00:06:51,060 --> 00:06:53,390 I'm sorry. 139 00:06:53,500 --> 00:06:55,800 I'm just glad you came 140 00:06:55,900 --> 00:07:00,640 because I know if anybody can help, it's you. 141 00:07:00,740 --> 00:07:02,940 I promise I'm gonna try my best. 142 00:07:06,740 --> 00:07:11,250 So I'm definitely seeing a big blob. 143 00:07:11,350 --> 00:07:15,250 And it's, like, moving like a pulse. 144 00:07:15,350 --> 00:07:18,450 Goes up into the ceiling. 145 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:20,320 And then it has veins. 146 00:07:20,420 --> 00:07:22,460 Like, it looks like blood vessels. 147 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:23,760 What is this thing? 148 00:07:23,830 --> 00:07:25,030 It's a manifestation 149 00:07:25,130 --> 00:07:27,230 of all the negativity that's here. 150 00:07:27,330 --> 00:07:29,730 Sucked it all in. 151 00:07:29,830 --> 00:07:33,970 One living person is being eaten by this thing. 152 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:35,840 The weak ones, it gets. 153 00:07:35,940 --> 00:07:37,970 So they're probably sick 154 00:07:38,070 --> 00:07:40,170 or they might be dying. 155 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:42,410 Losing their personality. 156 00:07:42,510 --> 00:07:46,010 So psychologically and mentally, they're kind of, like... 157 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:49,250 not them anymore. 158 00:07:49,350 --> 00:07:54,460 This blob is the worst thing here. 159 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:02,760 So what's goin' on in the bedroom here? 160 00:08:02,870 --> 00:08:05,970 I have a statue that I used to, um, 161 00:08:06,070 --> 00:08:08,200 have just above my head. 162 00:08:08,300 --> 00:08:09,440 And I was sleeping, 163 00:08:09,540 --> 00:08:13,880 and it struck me real hard in the head. 164 00:08:13,980 --> 00:08:15,110 Was it on that lower shelf? 165 00:08:15,210 --> 00:08:16,340 Yes. 166 00:08:16,450 --> 00:08:18,410 It felt like it was 167 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:22,150 picked up and struck me, 168 00:08:22,250 --> 00:08:25,390 like it was tryin' to kill me. 169 00:08:25,490 --> 00:08:28,360 Okay. So anything else happen in here? 170 00:08:28,420 --> 00:08:33,230 I was upstairs, um, repacking a box of Marcus' things 171 00:08:33,330 --> 00:08:34,700 to give to my daughter. 172 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:37,870 Marcus is your daughter's fiancé who died in the house. Yes. 173 00:08:37,970 --> 00:08:42,370 And I was grabbed real hard and held. 174 00:08:42,470 --> 00:08:44,510 And then I got marks on me. 175 00:08:44,570 --> 00:08:46,040 What, like human hands were touching you? 176 00:08:46,140 --> 00:08:49,240 Yes, like that. I was grabbed hard. 177 00:08:49,350 --> 00:08:51,350 And how long did that last, that feeling? 178 00:08:51,450 --> 00:08:52,680 About 5 minutes. 179 00:08:52,780 --> 00:08:55,280 I think it was Marcus trying to stop me. 180 00:08:55,390 --> 00:08:57,920 I don't think he wanted his stuff to leave. 181 00:08:58,020 --> 00:09:00,590 Okay. So has anything else physical like that happen? 182 00:09:00,690 --> 00:09:02,190 I watched my husband 183 00:09:02,290 --> 00:09:05,060 being shook violently back and forth. 184 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:08,330 And he wakes up finally and says, "What?" 185 00:09:08,430 --> 00:09:12,930 And I go, "It wasn't me that shook you awake." 186 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:14,400 Does he suffer from seizures at all? 187 00:09:14,500 --> 00:09:16,400 - Never. - Well, you mentioned earlier 188 00:09:16,510 --> 00:09:19,110 about your husband's personality changes. 189 00:09:19,210 --> 00:09:20,980 What about you? Have you had any of that? 190 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:22,180 Yeah. 191 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:23,440 Okay. 192 00:09:23,550 --> 00:09:24,810 I'll be in the kitchen cooking, 193 00:09:24,910 --> 00:09:28,250 and I'll get a thought real strong. 194 00:09:28,350 --> 00:09:30,790 Somebody talking in my head, 195 00:09:30,890 --> 00:09:33,390 "Why don't you just take that knife and put it in there? 196 00:09:33,490 --> 00:09:35,390 You'll be over." 197 00:09:35,490 --> 00:09:38,190 And I'm like, "No!" 198 00:09:38,290 --> 00:09:40,290 How often does this happen? 199 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:42,160 Every day. 200 00:09:45,970 --> 00:09:49,840 Somebody's in the kitchen cooking. 201 00:09:49,940 --> 00:09:53,010 And then I see, like, a knife in my hand. 202 00:09:53,110 --> 00:09:57,210 And I'm gonna go up and stab that person. 203 00:09:57,310 --> 00:10:00,750 This is, like, a vision. 204 00:10:00,850 --> 00:10:04,150 This blob -- that's what it wants. 205 00:10:04,250 --> 00:10:05,990 It wants people to hurt each other 206 00:10:06,090 --> 00:10:08,460 'cause then it gets bigger. 207 00:10:08,560 --> 00:10:11,860 It needs to eat to stay alive, 208 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:14,130 to grow, to survive. 209 00:10:35,860 --> 00:10:38,400 So, Roy, I was talkin' to, Lorie. 210 00:10:38,500 --> 00:10:40,560 I'm sorry about what she's goin' through. 211 00:10:40,670 --> 00:10:43,230 She says that the house has changed your personality. 212 00:10:43,340 --> 00:10:44,470 Do you agree with that? 213 00:10:44,570 --> 00:10:46,100 Yeah. I do. 214 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:48,440 So how are you being affected emotionally? 215 00:10:48,540 --> 00:10:51,210 Just violent thoughts. 216 00:10:51,310 --> 00:10:54,080 You know, when you wake up out of a sound sleep, 217 00:10:54,180 --> 00:10:57,950 you hear a dog barkin', you know the dog wants to go out. 218 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:02,490 But by the time you get to her to let her out, 219 00:11:02,590 --> 00:11:04,420 all you wanna do is kill her. 220 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:05,660 Dog ran from me. 221 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:08,260 I wanted to grab her and choke her. 222 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:10,060 I was chasin' her to kill her. 223 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:13,200 Somethin's tellin' me, "Get outside. Get outside." 224 00:11:13,300 --> 00:11:15,970 I open the door. I go outside. 225 00:11:16,070 --> 00:11:18,440 I'm out there shaking my head saying, 226 00:11:18,540 --> 00:11:21,070 "Get the freak outta my head!" 227 00:11:21,170 --> 00:11:23,310 It's, like, when it comes outta me, I'll stand there. 228 00:11:23,410 --> 00:11:27,810 And I'm, like, "What the hell is doin' this?" 229 00:11:27,910 --> 00:11:30,450 But if I coulda got ahold of that dog, I woulda killed it. 230 00:11:35,790 --> 00:11:39,460 This thing, it affects everybody in the house. 231 00:11:39,560 --> 00:11:44,090 It gives them, um, nightmares. 232 00:11:46,930 --> 00:11:50,300 And visions of hurting each other. 233 00:11:51,970 --> 00:11:55,310 This could actually manipulate living people 234 00:11:55,410 --> 00:11:57,210 into harming one another. 235 00:12:02,380 --> 00:12:05,780 Okay, so as far as experiences go, have you had any? 236 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:08,720 - Bad smells. - What kinda smell? 237 00:12:08,790 --> 00:12:11,490 - A smell like death. - Okay. 238 00:12:11,590 --> 00:12:13,920 I mean, this is a big house, and you've got woods everywhere. 239 00:12:14,030 --> 00:12:15,390 Dead animal, maybe? 240 00:12:15,490 --> 00:12:18,360 No. There's no dead animals in my house. 241 00:12:18,460 --> 00:12:19,700 All right. Anything else? 242 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:20,830 I see shadows all the time. 243 00:12:20,930 --> 00:12:22,130 Okay. Where do you see those? 244 00:12:22,230 --> 00:12:24,630 Mainly downstairs, watchin' TV. 245 00:12:24,700 --> 00:12:27,570 You can see 'em run by the TV. 246 00:12:27,670 --> 00:12:29,210 Have you ever seen 'em up here? 247 00:12:29,310 --> 00:12:30,610 Only once. 248 00:12:30,710 --> 00:12:31,910 Okay, when was that? 249 00:12:32,010 --> 00:12:33,310 When I was held down. 250 00:12:33,410 --> 00:12:34,580 Tell me about what happened. 251 00:12:34,680 --> 00:12:36,610 Well, I was sleepin' one night. 252 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:41,220 And somethin' woke me up, and I seen a big, black mass 253 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:44,090 over top of me, holdin' me down. 254 00:12:44,190 --> 00:12:45,160 It started floatin' back. 255 00:12:45,260 --> 00:12:46,520 I jumped up outta bed and I says, 256 00:12:46,590 --> 00:12:49,360 "Is that all you've got, you son of a ****? 257 00:12:49,460 --> 00:12:52,560 Don't you ever touch me again." 258 00:12:52,660 --> 00:12:54,360 And then it dissipated. 259 00:12:54,470 --> 00:12:57,170 - Now you seem angry. - I am angry. 260 00:12:57,270 --> 00:12:59,900 It's, like, okay, you wanna pick on me? Fine. 261 00:13:00,010 --> 00:13:02,970 I could...I'll -- I'll handle it. Right. 262 00:13:03,070 --> 00:13:04,910 But when you start interferin' 263 00:13:05,010 --> 00:13:07,180 and gettin' to my family and my wife, 264 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:10,550 now it's time to do somethin' and do it now. 265 00:13:10,650 --> 00:13:12,420 Right. 266 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:16,650 There's this dude. 267 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:18,820 He's **** intense. 268 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:21,120 İf you're, like, thinking about him 269 00:13:21,230 --> 00:13:23,360 or talking about him or anything like that, 270 00:13:23,460 --> 00:13:25,400 he's, like, right on top of you. 271 00:13:28,870 --> 00:13:31,430 I was getting stuff on his wife. 272 00:13:31,540 --> 00:13:32,770 She smells really bad. 273 00:13:32,870 --> 00:13:35,100 I think living people can smell her. 274 00:13:35,170 --> 00:13:36,840 She does look like 275 00:13:36,940 --> 00:13:39,440 a weird **** version of a shadow person. 276 00:13:40,950 --> 00:13:44,580 And the thing that she does is, like, she'll be, like... 277 00:13:44,680 --> 00:13:47,650 at their beds and watching. 278 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:55,830 So, Kristina, I understand that you moved out 279 00:13:55,930 --> 00:13:57,630 about 6 months ago. - Yes. 280 00:13:57,730 --> 00:13:58,760 Okay. 281 00:13:58,860 --> 00:14:00,030 What was the reason for that? 282 00:14:00,130 --> 00:14:02,830 Mostly because of the activity in the house. 283 00:14:02,930 --> 00:14:05,270 Now I know it's a tough subject to talk about, 284 00:14:05,370 --> 00:14:08,440 but I understand, um, your fiancé... 285 00:14:08,540 --> 00:14:10,210 Had passed away in the house. 286 00:14:10,310 --> 00:14:12,310 Yes. In the living room. 287 00:14:12,380 --> 00:14:13,880 He was my best friend. 288 00:14:13,980 --> 00:14:16,080 It's the hardest thing I've ever had to go through in my life. 289 00:14:16,180 --> 00:14:17,410 I can imagine. 290 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:19,920 I didn't think I was gonna make it through it. 291 00:14:20,020 --> 00:14:22,820 I know you've had experiences. So tell me about some of 'em. 292 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:25,490 Um, one night I woke up in the middle of the night, 293 00:14:25,590 --> 00:14:27,960 and there was an old man standing at the end of my bed 294 00:14:28,090 --> 00:14:29,990 staring at me. 295 00:14:30,100 --> 00:14:32,200 And he was just there for, like, a couple seconds, 296 00:14:32,300 --> 00:14:33,900 and then he disappeared. 297 00:14:33,970 --> 00:14:35,060 So okay, anything else? 298 00:14:35,170 --> 00:14:37,370 Bad anxiety attacks. I mean, right now, 299 00:14:37,470 --> 00:14:39,500 I- I'm havin' a hard time breathing. 300 00:14:39,570 --> 00:14:42,740 I- I just feel like somethin's really heavy on my chest 301 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:44,740 and that my heart goes outta rhythm. 302 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:47,440 And I start sweating really bad. 303 00:14:47,550 --> 00:14:49,810 - Okay. - Sometimes I feel overwhelmed, 304 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:51,950 like I just wanna break down crying. 305 00:14:52,050 --> 00:14:53,880 And it's uncontrollable. 306 00:14:56,660 --> 00:15:00,360 This dude would affect living people, 307 00:15:00,460 --> 00:15:03,130 make them feel a lotta stress. 308 00:15:03,230 --> 00:15:05,700 If anybody would have a problem with him living-wise, 309 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:09,470 it would be any female in this house. 310 00:15:09,570 --> 00:15:14,500 He probably does bad things to women here. 311 00:15:17,940 --> 00:15:20,540 Pain. Lots of pain. 312 00:15:20,650 --> 00:15:22,910 My god. 313 00:15:22,980 --> 00:15:25,350 I feel like I have this pain in my back. 314 00:15:30,220 --> 00:15:33,120 And I feel nauseous, too. 315 00:15:33,190 --> 00:15:35,220 What the **** is happening? 316 00:15:47,970 --> 00:15:49,610 Look, 39-year-old guys 317 00:15:49,710 --> 00:15:51,210 just don't drop dead of heart attacks. 318 00:15:51,310 --> 00:15:53,010 There's gotta be more to it. 319 00:15:53,110 --> 00:15:56,150 I reached out to Marcus' mom, who's agreed to speak to me. 320 00:15:56,250 --> 00:15:57,980 She says he did have a condition, 321 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:00,350 and thinks his death could have been prevented. 322 00:16:06,060 --> 00:16:08,060 I know this is a tough subject. 323 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:10,290 And I understand Marcus did pass away in the house 324 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:11,630 I'm investigating. - Yes. 325 00:16:11,730 --> 00:16:13,360 Before we even get to any of that stuff, 326 00:16:13,460 --> 00:16:15,030 tell -- tell me about your son. 327 00:16:15,130 --> 00:16:16,400 This is a picture of my son. 328 00:16:16,500 --> 00:16:18,330 He's the oldest of five. 329 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:19,500 Okay. 330 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:22,170 Big, lovable guy. 331 00:16:22,270 --> 00:16:24,670 He was like a big kid. - Okay. 332 00:16:24,780 --> 00:16:27,240 On the phone, you had mentioned Marcus had a condition. 333 00:16:27,350 --> 00:16:30,450 He had what is called Atrial Septal Defect, 334 00:16:30,550 --> 00:16:33,250 which is one of the causes of his death. 335 00:16:33,350 --> 00:16:35,350 It's actually a hole in the wall 336 00:16:35,450 --> 00:16:38,890 in between the two, top chambers of the heart. 337 00:16:41,260 --> 00:16:42,830 Did he take it serious? 338 00:16:42,930 --> 00:16:46,900 He did not, you know, take the best care of himself. 339 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:49,570 He, smoked cigarettes when he was younger. 340 00:16:49,670 --> 00:16:53,200 And, he wasn't one to work out or anything. 341 00:16:53,270 --> 00:16:54,740 My son was a chef. 342 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:57,170 Chefs love food. - Right. 343 00:16:57,280 --> 00:16:59,110 They love rich foods. 344 00:16:59,180 --> 00:17:00,780 When's the last time you had seen him? 345 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:05,750 Last time I saw him was Thanksgiving Day, 2011. 346 00:17:05,850 --> 00:17:08,280 Okay. And how soon after that did he pass? 347 00:17:08,390 --> 00:17:10,620 He passed away on December 19th. 348 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:12,250 I'm assuming they did an autopsy? 349 00:17:12,360 --> 00:17:15,790 Yes. Here's a copy of the autopsy report. 350 00:17:15,860 --> 00:17:21,000 The autopsy found that he had a grossly enlarged heart. 351 00:17:21,070 --> 00:17:22,700 His heart basically just gave up. 352 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:26,700 Okay. Now you think this could've been prevented. 353 00:17:26,770 --> 00:17:30,040 Had he been going to a doctor like he should've, yes. 354 00:17:30,140 --> 00:17:33,310 I don't know how a parent could lose a child. It's devastating. 355 00:17:33,410 --> 00:17:35,110 Very devastating. 356 00:17:35,210 --> 00:17:37,880 Lorie thinks he's still around the house. How 'bout you? 357 00:17:37,980 --> 00:17:41,780 I do. He loved Lorie and Roy. 358 00:17:41,890 --> 00:17:43,720 They were like a second family to him. 359 00:17:43,820 --> 00:17:46,260 I wouldn't be surprised at all if he is around. 360 00:17:46,360 --> 00:17:49,230 Especially, ya know, looking after them. 361 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:03,470 There's, like, a dead guy in here a lot. 362 00:18:03,540 --> 00:18:05,710 He's a big guy. He was stocky. 363 00:18:05,810 --> 00:18:08,680 He smoked a lot. 364 00:18:08,780 --> 00:18:10,980 He ate a lot of bad stuff. 365 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:13,220 I think he died from a heart attack. 366 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:15,650 Very sudden, very quick. 367 00:18:15,750 --> 00:18:19,920 He's very angry, very angry about it. 368 00:18:19,990 --> 00:18:21,890 He's trying to get out, and he can't. 369 00:18:21,990 --> 00:18:24,260 None of the dead people can get outta here. 370 00:18:30,070 --> 00:18:32,570 So far, I've got a terminally ill client 371 00:18:32,670 --> 00:18:36,010 whose family's being torn apart by bizarre activity, 372 00:18:36,110 --> 00:18:37,710 and a young man who died of a heart attack 373 00:18:37,810 --> 00:18:39,740 right inside their house. 374 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:42,750 But I need to see if there's anything more. 375 00:18:42,850 --> 00:18:44,080 Diggin' through old records, 376 00:18:44,180 --> 00:18:47,320 I find a notorious gangster named Cadillac Charlie. 377 00:18:47,390 --> 00:18:50,720 In 1962, he and his son were killed in a gruesome car bombing 378 00:18:50,820 --> 00:18:53,560 only 600 feet from Lorie's property. 379 00:18:53,660 --> 00:18:55,890 Turns out, they were the victims of a mob hit. 380 00:18:55,990 --> 00:18:57,460 Now I'm not sure how it's gonna help my case, 381 00:18:57,560 --> 00:18:59,360 but I gotta check this one out. 382 00:19:05,470 --> 00:19:08,240 So, Tom, I came across a mob hit near my client's house. 383 00:19:08,310 --> 00:19:10,670 I was even surprised to know there was any mob in Youngstown. 384 00:19:10,780 --> 00:19:14,110 Actually, Youngstown was a pretty big mob city. 385 00:19:14,180 --> 00:19:16,350 Now were car bombs like the one near my client's property 386 00:19:16,450 --> 00:19:18,080 a common way to take people out? 387 00:19:18,180 --> 00:19:20,620 In the -- in the 10 or 11 years before, 388 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:23,190 Cadillac Charlie was blown up, 389 00:19:23,290 --> 00:19:26,290 there were, like, 81 car bombings. 390 00:19:26,390 --> 00:19:27,590 It drew the attention 391 00:19:27,690 --> 00:19:28,760 of the Attorney General of the United States -- 392 00:19:28,860 --> 00:19:30,290 Robert Kennedy. 393 00:19:30,360 --> 00:19:33,030 And - Kennedy, called J. Edgar Hoover 394 00:19:33,130 --> 00:19:35,700 and got the FBI involved in the case. 395 00:19:40,910 --> 00:19:42,470 Something happened here. 396 00:19:42,570 --> 00:19:46,440 And all these men were in the process of dying. 397 00:19:46,510 --> 00:19:50,150 I didn't see a battle or a war, anything like that. 398 00:19:50,250 --> 00:19:53,650 There's, like, piles and piles and piles of dead bodies. 399 00:19:53,750 --> 00:19:55,780 - How many? - Like, hundreds. 400 00:19:57,590 --> 00:20:00,890 These people, these men, were **** up. 401 00:20:00,990 --> 00:20:03,860 Like, some of 'em missin' a leg. 402 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:06,830 You know, they maybe got a shirt and there's blood all over it. 403 00:20:06,930 --> 00:20:12,500 Somehow, it reached all the way to Washington, DC. 404 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:14,470 I saw a big, round table 405 00:20:14,570 --> 00:20:17,010 with seven or eight politicians 406 00:20:17,110 --> 00:20:20,110 discussing men dying here. 407 00:20:20,210 --> 00:20:21,810 And it was a big deal. 408 00:20:22,950 --> 00:20:24,050 Cadillac Charlie. 409 00:20:24,150 --> 00:20:26,020 This guy sounds like a made guy, a wise guy. 410 00:20:26,120 --> 00:20:27,480 What do we know about him? 411 00:20:27,590 --> 00:20:29,350 He's a Sicilian immigrant. 412 00:20:29,420 --> 00:20:31,520 Came to the United States in 1921. 413 00:20:31,620 --> 00:20:34,660 This is a picture here of, of Charlie. 414 00:20:36,060 --> 00:20:38,430 Not much is known about him the first 10 or 15 years 415 00:20:38,530 --> 00:20:39,600 he's in the country. 416 00:20:39,700 --> 00:20:42,460 And then a few years later, in, in 1940, 417 00:20:42,570 --> 00:20:44,000 he first shows up in Youngstown, 418 00:20:44,100 --> 00:20:45,130 gets involved with 419 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:47,400 the organized crime figures in town. 420 00:20:47,510 --> 00:20:49,440 Um, he buys a pool hall, 421 00:20:49,540 --> 00:20:51,670 slash lottery house. 422 00:20:51,780 --> 00:20:52,810 He rose pretty fast. 423 00:20:52,910 --> 00:20:54,580 And, by the time, - 424 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:56,810 the early '50s rolled around, he was -- 425 00:20:56,910 --> 00:20:58,580 he was the man in Youngstown. 426 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:00,850 So, Tom, I know the house he lived in 427 00:21:00,950 --> 00:21:02,580 is a pretty suburban area, 428 00:21:02,690 --> 00:21:03,650 by my client's house. 429 00:21:03,750 --> 00:21:06,190 Um, I assume he had a family. 430 00:21:06,290 --> 00:21:07,260 Yeah, he did. 431 00:21:07,360 --> 00:21:08,690 He lived there with his second wife. 432 00:21:08,790 --> 00:21:11,430 She was about 14 years younger than he was. 433 00:21:11,530 --> 00:21:13,900 He had, four kids total. 434 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:16,930 Okay. So how did this whole car bombing go down? 435 00:21:17,030 --> 00:21:19,070 Well, the bombing and -- and the murder occurred, 436 00:21:19,170 --> 00:21:22,340 the day after Thanksgiving, November 23rd, 1962. 437 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:23,810 Okay. It's Friday morning. 438 00:21:23,910 --> 00:21:25,910 Charlie's kids got football practice. 439 00:21:26,010 --> 00:21:28,440 Okay. Charlie and Tommy get in the car, 440 00:21:28,550 --> 00:21:30,780 turns the ignition to the car and ka-boom, the -- the -- 441 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:33,380 the whole -- the whole car blows up. 442 00:21:33,450 --> 00:21:34,920 The garage blows up. He's blown -- 443 00:21:35,020 --> 00:21:36,950 Him and his son are both blown to bits. 444 00:21:37,050 --> 00:21:38,650 Here's a photo of, of his son. 445 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:41,090 His 11-year-old son that was, killed in the, um, 446 00:21:41,190 --> 00:21:42,490 the car bombing. 447 00:21:42,590 --> 00:21:44,060 Jeez. 448 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:46,660 Any idea why this guy was the victim of a mob hit? 449 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:48,500 Well, there was a couple of, of -- 450 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:49,830 of theories runnin' around. 451 00:21:49,930 --> 00:21:52,530 One of 'em was that he -- he was deeply in debt. 452 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:54,770 But nobody really knows for sure. 453 00:21:54,910 --> 00:21:56,740 Nobody's ever collared for this or arrested? 454 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:58,040 No one was every arrested. 455 00:21:58,140 --> 00:21:59,880 Okay. 456 00:22:02,950 --> 00:22:04,850 I don't like this guy. 457 00:22:04,950 --> 00:22:07,450 The angry man is pulling me back upstairs, 458 00:22:07,550 --> 00:22:09,420 and he's bragging about all the terrible things 459 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:10,650 he did in life. 460 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:14,720 He says he owned men or laborers. 461 00:22:14,830 --> 00:22:16,530 He's wearing, like, a suit. 462 00:22:16,590 --> 00:22:19,660 I guess he owned...businesses? 463 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,530 I see, like, two small businesses. 464 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:25,630 And he's definitely from back east. 465 00:22:25,740 --> 00:22:27,370 And he moved here. 466 00:22:27,470 --> 00:22:29,770 Maybe he was in prison. 467 00:22:29,870 --> 00:22:32,670 I see a fire, and I see him kind of burnt. 468 00:22:34,510 --> 00:22:36,180 He's, like, charred. 469 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:39,310 He died, and was murdered apparently. 470 00:22:39,420 --> 00:22:41,120 And he's very pissed off about it. 471 00:22:41,220 --> 00:22:44,520 He feels like it was, you know, he didn't deserve it. 472 00:22:44,620 --> 00:22:46,890 He says, "I didn't deserve it. 473 00:22:46,990 --> 00:22:48,190 I didn't deserve it." 474 00:22:48,290 --> 00:22:51,130 He says it wasn't an accident. 475 00:22:51,230 --> 00:22:53,060 It was deliberate. 476 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:00,870 If you need us to investigate unexplained activity 477 00:23:00,970 --> 00:23:02,770 in your home, go to "The Dead Files" page 478 00:23:02,870 --> 00:23:04,810 at travelchannel.com. 479 00:23:04,910 --> 00:23:06,440 Click on "Help Me Dead Files!" to submit your story, 480 00:23:06,540 --> 00:23:07,810 and we'll help if we can. 481 00:23:16,500 --> 00:23:18,100 During my research, a former owner 482 00:23:18,210 --> 00:23:20,210 of my client's property caught my attention. 483 00:23:20,310 --> 00:23:21,770 So I had a local genealogist 484 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:24,010 look into this guy, Paul Wick, for me. 485 00:23:24,110 --> 00:23:26,110 She just called me back and said this guy's story 486 00:23:26,210 --> 00:23:29,320 is filled with tragedy, heartbreak, and bankruptcy. 487 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:37,990 So, Kimberly, why did you want to come here to talk? 488 00:23:38,090 --> 00:23:39,690 Because in its better days, 489 00:23:39,790 --> 00:23:43,330 this was a mill a lot like what Paul Wick ran. 490 00:23:43,430 --> 00:23:44,830 I figured this would be a good place 491 00:23:44,930 --> 00:23:46,470 to tell you his story. 492 00:23:46,570 --> 00:23:47,900 Okay. 493 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,570 So how does Paul wind up with my client's property? 494 00:23:50,670 --> 00:23:52,440 When he was 14 years old, 495 00:23:52,540 --> 00:23:56,440 Daddy handed him, basically, 117 acres. 496 00:23:56,540 --> 00:24:00,580 Part of that is where your client's house sits. 497 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,680 Here is a picture of him right here. 498 00:24:03,790 --> 00:24:05,280 All right. So Paul, does he get married? 499 00:24:05,390 --> 00:24:07,050 Does he stay single? What's his story? 500 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,590 He does get married when he's 22 years old. 501 00:24:09,690 --> 00:24:12,190 His wife is named Susan Bull. 502 00:24:12,290 --> 00:24:13,760 And here is her picture. 503 00:24:13,860 --> 00:24:17,860 They got married in 1846 and the raised six kids. 504 00:24:17,970 --> 00:24:19,270 Now, Kimberly, you mentioned on the phone 505 00:24:19,370 --> 00:24:20,830 that this guy suffered from heartbreak, 506 00:24:20,940 --> 00:24:22,300 tragedy, and bankruptcy. 507 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:23,870 Let's start with heartbreak. What happened? 508 00:24:23,970 --> 00:24:28,170 1882, Susan unexpectedly died of heart disease... 509 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:29,340 Okay. 510 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:31,540 ...leaving him to raise six kids. 511 00:24:31,650 --> 00:24:33,510 Okay, so let's move on to the tragedy. 512 00:24:33,620 --> 00:24:36,950 Well, one of Paul's holdings was an iron mill. 513 00:24:37,050 --> 00:24:40,490 Would've been a lot like this in its better day. 514 00:24:40,590 --> 00:24:43,190 Paul's iron mill had 10 boilers. Okay. 515 00:24:43,260 --> 00:24:45,520 August 28th, 1872, 516 00:24:45,630 --> 00:24:48,260 nine of the 10 boilers exploded. 517 00:24:48,360 --> 00:24:50,060 There were three fatalities. 518 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,730 A one-ton piece of one of the boilers 519 00:24:52,830 --> 00:24:54,770 flew a quarter of a mile away 520 00:24:54,870 --> 00:24:57,500 and fell into a house, 521 00:24:57,610 --> 00:25:00,240 killing a mother and a 9-month-old son. 522 00:25:00,340 --> 00:25:02,380 Jeez. 523 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:03,980 All right, now these explosions, 524 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:05,850 is that what leads to his bankruptcy? 525 00:25:05,950 --> 00:25:07,310 Partially. 526 00:25:07,420 --> 00:25:10,720 But back in 1883, Youngstown was going through a depression, 527 00:25:10,790 --> 00:25:13,050 especially in the iron industry. 528 00:25:13,150 --> 00:25:15,220 There were signs, but he ignored 'em. 529 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:19,090 For the next 7 years, he ties things up in court. 530 00:25:19,190 --> 00:25:23,030 Ten days after the final court hearing, Paul Wick dies. 531 00:25:23,130 --> 00:25:25,400 He was a broken man. 532 00:25:28,370 --> 00:25:30,270 Heartache, tragedy, and bankruptcy. 533 00:25:30,370 --> 00:25:33,210 You weren't kidding. It followed him his entire life. 534 00:25:37,210 --> 00:25:39,450 What this thing is, 535 00:25:39,550 --> 00:25:42,920 is a culmination 536 00:25:43,020 --> 00:25:46,520 of all the negativity 537 00:25:46,620 --> 00:25:52,320 that has been within these walls. 538 00:25:52,430 --> 00:25:53,830 Even though the angry dead man 539 00:25:53,900 --> 00:25:57,330 poses a serious threat to the living women in the house, 540 00:25:57,430 --> 00:26:00,830 I'm most concerned about this thing in the dining room. 541 00:26:00,940 --> 00:26:05,940 It's absorbed living energy from living people. 542 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,570 Horrible things that it's absorbed. 543 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:13,610 It's collected into this big blob. 544 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,680 What happens if it were to continue to -- to get bigger? 545 00:26:16,780 --> 00:26:22,320 It'll then become intertwined with the house... 546 00:26:22,420 --> 00:26:26,360 to the point where it'll just meld within the walls. 547 00:26:26,460 --> 00:26:29,860 And then it'll become one with the house, the structure. 548 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:33,900 And the structure is actually like a living organism. 549 00:26:36,740 --> 00:26:40,140 And then, it does form a consciousness over time. 550 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:45,110 And then it can project entities, to do harm. 551 00:26:45,210 --> 00:26:47,780 So it could kill them. 552 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,160 I saw several disturbing things on my walk, 553 00:26:57,260 --> 00:26:59,160 but two stood out the most. 554 00:26:59,260 --> 00:27:00,990 First, the angry man. 555 00:27:01,100 --> 00:27:04,800 He was, I believe, in his 40s. 556 00:27:07,140 --> 00:27:09,100 Like, stocky. 557 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,700 A very, like, thick neck. 558 00:27:11,810 --> 00:27:15,110 Next, I described the thing growing in the dining room. 559 00:27:15,210 --> 00:27:18,880 It's this big, black, 560 00:27:18,980 --> 00:27:21,180 undulating mass. 561 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:24,420 And it looked like it was made out of tar. 562 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:27,720 And it had, like, veins. 563 00:27:30,860 --> 00:27:32,590 Amy, is this what you saw? 564 00:27:36,060 --> 00:27:37,500 Yes, that's who I saw. 565 00:27:57,740 --> 00:28:00,570 Now that Amy and I have completed our investigations, 566 00:28:00,670 --> 00:28:01,870 we're ready to reveal our findings 567 00:28:01,970 --> 00:28:05,110 to each other and our clients for the first time. 568 00:28:05,210 --> 00:28:08,110 Amy, I want you to meet Lorie and her husband Roy. 569 00:28:08,210 --> 00:28:10,010 There is no easy way to say this, 570 00:28:10,110 --> 00:28:12,050 but Lorie doesn't have much time left. 571 00:28:12,150 --> 00:28:15,720 She's been diagnosed with stage IV cancer, 572 00:28:15,820 --> 00:28:19,360 and the doctors give her about 2 months to live. 573 00:28:19,460 --> 00:28:21,690 Now the activity here is pretty bad. 574 00:28:21,790 --> 00:28:23,390 And Lorie's dying wish 575 00:28:23,490 --> 00:28:27,060 is to know her family's gonna be okay once she's gone. 576 00:28:27,170 --> 00:28:29,770 Now that Amy knows a little bit about you guys, 577 00:28:29,870 --> 00:28:32,940 I'm gonna ask her to describe her walk for us. 578 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:37,470 There's something very unusual about this particular area. 579 00:28:37,580 --> 00:28:41,540 What I saw was that the dead can't move on. 580 00:28:41,650 --> 00:28:42,850 They're trapped. 581 00:28:42,950 --> 00:28:48,880 And I saw a wall surrounding this property. 582 00:28:48,990 --> 00:28:52,690 When I walked into the house, I went into the master bedroom, 583 00:28:52,790 --> 00:28:56,960 and I saw a dead man in there. 584 00:28:57,060 --> 00:28:59,660 Um, he was extremely stressed out. 585 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:03,470 This was very recent, within the last 10 years. 586 00:29:03,570 --> 00:29:05,300 I got that he was a big, stocky guy 587 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,200 who did a lotta hard work. 588 00:29:07,310 --> 00:29:09,670 I got that he was unfortunately unhealthy, 589 00:29:09,770 --> 00:29:11,740 and smoked and ate a lot of bad food. 590 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:13,640 And that he died very suddenly, 591 00:29:13,710 --> 00:29:15,380 from a heart attack. 592 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:19,820 And he's extremely upset about that as well. 593 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:21,650 We kinda think we know this might be, right? 594 00:29:21,750 --> 00:29:22,920 Yeah. 595 00:29:23,020 --> 00:29:25,350 Lorie's daughter, Kristina, was living here 596 00:29:25,460 --> 00:29:28,920 with her fiancé Marcus, for about 2 months. 597 00:29:29,030 --> 00:29:33,830 I got a picture of Marcus here with Kristina and their dogs. 598 00:29:33,930 --> 00:29:37,330 Marcus was born with a Atrial Septal Defect. 599 00:29:38,670 --> 00:29:42,070 Despite that, he did lead an unhealthy lifestyle. 600 00:29:42,170 --> 00:29:44,010 He had smoked. He ate a lotta rich foods. 601 00:29:44,110 --> 00:29:45,640 He was a chef. 602 00:29:45,710 --> 00:29:47,940 Now, on December 19th, 2011, 603 00:29:48,050 --> 00:29:51,350 he was sitting right here in this room with Kristina, 604 00:29:51,420 --> 00:29:53,220 um, when his heart stopped. 605 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:56,420 He was only 39 years old. 606 00:29:56,550 --> 00:29:59,960 Now does this photo look like the person you ran into? 607 00:30:00,060 --> 00:30:01,790 I would say yes. 608 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,400 Tell Amy the story about the bruise around the arm. 609 00:30:06,500 --> 00:30:07,660 I was upstairs. 610 00:30:07,770 --> 00:30:11,170 I was repacking Marcus' things, 611 00:30:11,270 --> 00:30:14,240 and arms grabbed me. 612 00:30:14,340 --> 00:30:15,970 And I began to burn. 613 00:30:16,070 --> 00:30:18,240 It hurt so badly. 614 00:30:18,310 --> 00:30:20,310 And I'm like, "No!" 615 00:30:20,410 --> 00:30:23,680 And I thought it was Marcus the minute it happened. 616 00:30:23,780 --> 00:30:26,480 I don't get the impression that he -- 617 00:30:26,580 --> 00:30:28,120 that he would harm anyone. 618 00:30:28,220 --> 00:30:30,050 No, I don't either. 619 00:30:30,150 --> 00:30:32,560 I don't think he wanted his stuff to leave. 620 00:30:32,660 --> 00:30:34,390 I loved him. 621 00:30:39,060 --> 00:30:40,900 The next people that I met, 622 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,870 when they were alive, they were a couple. 623 00:30:43,970 --> 00:30:47,040 The wife is an emotional wreck. 624 00:30:47,140 --> 00:30:49,210 Extremely depressed. 625 00:30:49,310 --> 00:30:50,640 I think that the living would -- 626 00:30:50,710 --> 00:30:53,880 would associate her with, like, a shadow person, 627 00:30:53,980 --> 00:30:56,950 um, because she is all black. 628 00:30:57,050 --> 00:31:00,850 And she likes to watch people in the beds. 629 00:31:00,950 --> 00:31:04,250 The other thing is she doesn't, smell very good. 630 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,560 Now you see shadows. 631 00:31:06,660 --> 00:31:07,960 Yeah. I see shadows, 632 00:31:08,060 --> 00:31:11,160 mostly when I'm sittin' here watchin' TV. 633 00:31:11,260 --> 00:31:13,130 And I'll see a shadow... 634 00:31:13,230 --> 00:31:15,160 real fast go by the TV. 635 00:31:15,270 --> 00:31:17,670 - Okay. - You mentioned a smell, right? 636 00:31:17,740 --> 00:31:20,240 Yeah. 637 00:31:20,340 --> 00:31:23,910 All the time. It's, like, walkin' past death. 638 00:31:25,740 --> 00:31:28,010 Her husband is the one I'm more concerned about. 639 00:31:28,110 --> 00:31:31,210 He was an extremely angry man. 640 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:35,220 I felt like he was insane. 641 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:37,950 He goes all over the house. 642 00:31:38,060 --> 00:31:40,620 He has major issues with women. 643 00:31:40,730 --> 00:31:44,230 He gets really pissy if somebody starts talking about him. 644 00:31:44,330 --> 00:31:46,330 And he'll get right up on that person, 645 00:31:46,430 --> 00:31:48,560 like, right in their space. 646 00:31:48,670 --> 00:31:51,370 This'll make a living person very stressed out. 647 00:31:51,470 --> 00:31:56,840 Um, I think that living people might be able to see him. 648 00:31:56,940 --> 00:31:58,210 Lorie got physically attacked by -- 649 00:31:58,310 --> 00:32:01,740 There's this horn-shaped kind of figurine statue thing 650 00:32:01,850 --> 00:32:02,910 with elephants on it. 651 00:32:03,010 --> 00:32:04,910 I was in bed and I was sleeping. 652 00:32:05,020 --> 00:32:07,420 And it was low enough 653 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:09,850 that it shoulda just fallen on my chest. 654 00:32:11,190 --> 00:32:13,890 But it bashed me in the head. 655 00:32:13,990 --> 00:32:16,290 And I still have pain. 656 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:18,630 Yeah. He's a bully. 657 00:32:18,730 --> 00:32:20,330 The other thing is anxiety throughout the house. 658 00:32:20,430 --> 00:32:22,930 Everybody has anxiety attacks. 659 00:32:23,030 --> 00:32:25,470 I'm actually dizzy, like I could pass out. 660 00:32:25,570 --> 00:32:27,900 I don't know why. 661 00:32:27,970 --> 00:32:31,140 This house... 662 00:32:32,580 --> 00:32:34,480 Yeah. 663 00:32:34,580 --> 00:32:36,750 You get anything on this guy, like who he was? 664 00:32:36,850 --> 00:32:38,180 I got that he'd been in prison. 665 00:32:38,250 --> 00:32:40,420 I got that he was from back east and that he moved here. 666 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:44,750 I got that he owned a couple of small businesses. 667 00:32:44,860 --> 00:32:47,660 I got that he was murdered. 668 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:52,490 Um, and he feels like he did not deserve it. 669 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,130 And I got constantly, him in fire. 670 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:58,430 Half of his face is, like, burnt, singed. 671 00:32:58,540 --> 00:33:00,540 Definitely reminds me of somebody 672 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:02,610 who came up in my research. 673 00:33:02,710 --> 00:33:04,510 One of the most notorious gangsters 674 00:33:04,610 --> 00:33:07,140 in Youngstown lived about 600 feet from here. 675 00:33:07,250 --> 00:33:09,380 His name was Charles Cavallaro. 676 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,510 He went by the name of Cadillac Charlie. 677 00:33:11,620 --> 00:33:13,250 Charlie was a Sicilian immigrant, 678 00:33:13,350 --> 00:33:14,850 came to the US in 1921. 679 00:33:14,950 --> 00:33:18,050 He lived in New York City. You said the east coast. 680 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,120 He was in the mob. He was probably a made guy. 681 00:33:20,220 --> 00:33:21,860 And we know he got arrested a few times. 682 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:25,690 Now in 1940, he moved to Youngstown. 683 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,400 You said something about fire and him saying he was murdered. 684 00:33:28,500 --> 00:33:30,300 That's about as spot-on as it gets. 685 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:33,000 On November 23rd, 1962, 686 00:33:33,070 --> 00:33:35,170 he was gonna take the kids to football practice. 687 00:33:35,270 --> 00:33:37,610 Charlie turned on the car, and boom, it exploded. 688 00:33:37,710 --> 00:33:38,910 ****. 689 00:33:39,010 --> 00:33:40,880 The car bomb killed him 690 00:33:40,980 --> 00:33:43,410 and his 11-year-old son Tommy instantly. 691 00:33:43,510 --> 00:33:45,680 Now I have pictures 692 00:33:45,780 --> 00:33:48,780 of Cadillac Charlie. 693 00:33:48,890 --> 00:33:50,790 And his son. 694 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:54,920 And this is car after the explosion. 695 00:33:57,030 --> 00:33:59,500 The crime was never solved. 696 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:01,200 Definitely a mob hit. 697 00:34:01,300 --> 00:34:03,570 My god. 698 00:34:03,670 --> 00:34:05,700 Is that who you think you saw? 699 00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:07,470 I had a sketch done of him. 700 00:34:11,380 --> 00:34:13,180 -100% this is him. - Absolutely. 701 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,610 You tell me if you think that's him or not. 702 00:34:15,710 --> 00:34:16,850 Yeah. 703 00:34:16,950 --> 00:34:18,350 My. 704 00:34:21,420 --> 00:34:22,750 Yep. 705 00:34:22,850 --> 00:34:24,050 Yeah. 706 00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:25,550 Why would he be here, though? 707 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:29,490 'Cause there's somethin' else that's here. 708 00:34:34,630 --> 00:34:36,570 The thing that I'm most concerned about 709 00:34:36,670 --> 00:34:38,500 is the thing in the dining room. 710 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:39,900 It's, like, a big mass. 711 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:41,740 A big blob. 712 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,140 It has, like veins on it. 713 00:34:44,240 --> 00:34:46,940 And it's, like, always pulsating. 714 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:48,280 Like a heart. 715 00:34:48,380 --> 00:34:51,610 This has a very large impact 716 00:34:51,720 --> 00:34:54,080 on anybody in this house. 717 00:34:54,190 --> 00:34:55,880 It feeds on negativity, 718 00:34:55,990 --> 00:35:00,590 and that's how it gains power and grows. 719 00:35:00,690 --> 00:35:04,660 And I saw one living person being consumed, 720 00:35:04,730 --> 00:35:09,030 by this thing on an energetic level. 721 00:35:09,100 --> 00:35:11,400 This living person would feel like 722 00:35:11,500 --> 00:35:14,570 they were losing themselves, 723 00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,010 like they were losing their personality 724 00:35:17,110 --> 00:35:19,270 and aspects of their being. 725 00:35:19,380 --> 00:35:22,880 This person could be sick and/or dying. 726 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,080 We talkin' about Lorie here? 727 00:35:28,190 --> 00:35:29,490 Sounds like it. 728 00:35:29,590 --> 00:35:32,190 Yeah. 729 00:35:32,290 --> 00:35:35,320 I feel like I'm here and not here. 730 00:35:35,430 --> 00:35:38,960 And here and not here. 731 00:35:39,060 --> 00:35:40,500 I was getting 732 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:45,170 that the living would experience a lot of nightmares. 733 00:35:45,270 --> 00:35:46,840 And also, visions. 734 00:35:46,940 --> 00:35:48,740 One of the things that I was shown 735 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:52,210 was somebody watching someone cooking. 736 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:56,350 And all of a sudden, they get this, like, vision of them, 737 00:35:56,450 --> 00:35:58,110 like, picking up a knife 738 00:35:58,220 --> 00:36:01,980 and walking up behind the person. 739 00:36:02,090 --> 00:36:06,890 It can manipulate the living to harm one another. 740 00:36:06,990 --> 00:36:08,760 When I'm in the kitchen, 741 00:36:08,860 --> 00:36:11,360 when I go toward the sharp knives, 742 00:36:11,460 --> 00:36:13,960 something in my head tells me, 743 00:36:14,030 --> 00:36:17,570 "Slit your wrists. It'll be okay. It'll be over." 744 00:36:17,670 --> 00:36:23,270 But it's, like, somebody talking to me, not in my own brain. 745 00:36:23,370 --> 00:36:24,540 Now it makes sense. 746 00:36:24,610 --> 00:36:26,040 Yeah. 747 00:36:26,140 --> 00:36:28,040 You wanted to kill the family dog, too. 748 00:36:28,150 --> 00:36:31,180 Yeah. Soon as I opened the cage to let her out. 749 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:35,280 The dog knew it wasn't me because that dog ran from me, 750 00:36:35,350 --> 00:36:37,250 and she don't never run from me. 751 00:36:37,350 --> 00:36:38,550 It's a good thing she did 752 00:36:38,660 --> 00:36:40,690 'cause if I'd have caught her, I'd have killed her. 753 00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:45,030 I go outside and shake my head, and I'm like, "Get outta me!" 754 00:36:45,130 --> 00:36:46,630 And it goes away. 755 00:36:46,700 --> 00:36:49,930 The last time it happened, I punched a hole in the wall. 756 00:36:50,030 --> 00:36:53,500 And I would never do anything like that. 757 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:55,440 - Weren't we talkin' about this? - Yeah. 758 00:36:55,540 --> 00:36:57,040 That we hoped it wasn't him, 759 00:36:57,110 --> 00:36:58,410 and it had somethin' to do with the house. 760 00:36:58,510 --> 00:37:00,940 - Right. - You know it's not him. 761 00:37:01,050 --> 00:37:02,440 Yeah. 762 00:37:02,510 --> 00:37:04,510 Now what did this thing look like? 763 00:37:04,620 --> 00:37:06,350 I had a sketch done. 764 00:37:12,220 --> 00:37:14,760 This looks like somethin' out of a science fiction movie 765 00:37:14,860 --> 00:37:17,190 or somethin'. 766 00:37:17,290 --> 00:37:19,030 Whoa. 767 00:37:23,130 --> 00:37:24,300 And it grows? 768 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:26,870 Yes. 769 00:37:26,970 --> 00:37:29,300 A long time ago, 770 00:37:29,370 --> 00:37:31,070 it first started. 771 00:37:31,180 --> 00:37:32,670 Like a seed. 772 00:37:32,780 --> 00:37:35,240 And everything negative that's happened 773 00:37:35,310 --> 00:37:38,550 over these many, many years has fed it. 774 00:37:38,650 --> 00:37:42,650 And it's grown bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger 775 00:37:42,750 --> 00:37:45,450 to this now. 776 00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:48,520 It is like a little animal. 777 00:37:48,630 --> 00:37:50,430 And as an animal, what do they want? 778 00:37:50,530 --> 00:37:52,190 They want food. 779 00:37:52,300 --> 00:37:54,930 And they wanna be strong, they wanna survive. 780 00:37:55,030 --> 00:37:58,000 The only way it's gonna do that is by taking living people. 781 00:38:00,570 --> 00:38:01,670 Going after people 782 00:38:01,740 --> 00:38:05,810 who are vulnerable that it can absorb. 783 00:38:05,910 --> 00:38:09,380 So this thing, every time they fight, it gets stronger. 784 00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:10,610 Yes. 785 00:38:10,710 --> 00:38:12,680 Every time Roy has his rage, it gets stronger. 786 00:38:12,780 --> 00:38:14,380 Yeah. 787 00:38:16,290 --> 00:38:18,590 So if this goes unchecked, 788 00:38:18,690 --> 00:38:20,520 what happens? 789 00:38:20,620 --> 00:38:22,890 Well, I go that it'll keep growing. 790 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:24,390 And then eventually, 791 00:38:24,500 --> 00:38:27,460 it would mesh and become part of the house. 792 00:38:27,570 --> 00:38:30,000 And basically the house would then be alive, 793 00:38:30,100 --> 00:38:31,400 essentially. 794 00:38:31,500 --> 00:38:33,000 Can anybody live in a house like that? 795 00:38:33,100 --> 00:38:35,170 No. Mnh-mnh. No. 796 00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:45,210 I was right. 797 00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:48,620 This house is going to kill me. 798 00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:05,180 Well, Lorie, I gotta tell you, 799 00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,710 you're one of the strongest people I've ever met. 800 00:39:07,810 --> 00:39:09,480 Amy, listen, I don't wanna put pressure on you, 801 00:39:09,580 --> 00:39:12,250 but I really hope you can come up with something for Lorie 802 00:39:12,350 --> 00:39:14,950 so she can live out her final days in peace. 803 00:39:18,630 --> 00:39:22,390 For years, this thing has fed 804 00:39:22,500 --> 00:39:24,730 and it has only grown stronger, 805 00:39:24,830 --> 00:39:27,100 to the point, 806 00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:30,270 that I don't think any living thing 807 00:39:30,370 --> 00:39:33,440 should be near this thing. 808 00:39:33,540 --> 00:39:35,010 What does this mean? They gotta move? 809 00:39:39,110 --> 00:39:42,780 The only way that this thing in this area could be cleansed 810 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:44,820 is if many mediums, 811 00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:46,550 many holy people 812 00:39:46,650 --> 00:39:50,150 came over months and months 813 00:39:50,260 --> 00:39:53,420 and dedicated many days, hours, 814 00:39:53,530 --> 00:39:56,460 to eradicating first the negative dead, 815 00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,700 and then attacking this thing at its source. 816 00:40:03,700 --> 00:40:08,170 The thing of it is, we leave this thing here, 817 00:40:08,270 --> 00:40:11,610 what's gonna happen? 818 00:40:11,710 --> 00:40:14,880 What I'm honestly hoping 819 00:40:14,980 --> 00:40:17,680 is that this area will be leveled. 820 00:40:23,890 --> 00:40:25,920 It needs to be leveled. 821 00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:32,460 It's all right, hon. It's just a house. 822 00:40:32,570 --> 00:40:33,600 Right. 823 00:40:33,700 --> 00:40:35,470 We can get a house. That's no big deal. 824 00:40:40,070 --> 00:40:41,870 It'll be all right. It'll be okay. 825 00:40:41,970 --> 00:40:46,210 Well, I guess we better hurry up 'cause I'm not doin' too good. 826 00:40:46,310 --> 00:40:48,350 I know, baby. I know. 827 00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:52,980 Once these guys move, 828 00:40:53,090 --> 00:40:55,550 will she start to feel a little bit better? 829 00:40:55,660 --> 00:40:57,320 I hope so. 830 00:40:57,420 --> 00:40:59,160 It can't come with me, can it? 831 00:40:59,260 --> 00:41:00,460 No. 832 00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:01,930 Now will Roy's rage go away once he's... 833 00:41:02,030 --> 00:41:05,600 Yeah, that'll -- You'll change dramatically. 834 00:41:05,700 --> 00:41:08,270 I hope so. 835 00:41:08,370 --> 00:41:09,670 Listen, you guys may have lost a home, 836 00:41:09,770 --> 00:41:11,770 but now you got each other again. 837 00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:13,670 Right? 838 00:41:13,770 --> 00:41:15,540 I know the answers you were lookin' for 839 00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:17,640 wasn't the ones you got. 840 00:41:17,740 --> 00:41:19,010 No. 841 00:41:19,110 --> 00:41:20,610 But you got answers. 842 00:41:20,710 --> 00:41:22,680 We will be outta this house quick. 843 00:41:26,720 --> 00:41:28,450 We've had enough. 844 00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:34,730 I wish I had better news for Lorie and Roy, 845 00:41:34,830 --> 00:41:37,900 but leaving this house is their best option. 846 00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,930 If they do that, things should improve between them, 847 00:41:41,030 --> 00:41:43,930 and Lorie can live her remaining days in peace. 848 00:41:43,980 --> 00:41:48,530 Repair and Synchronization by Easy Subtitles Synchronizer 1.0.0.0 62458

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