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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:10,546 --> 00:00:11,778 Nobody's at rest here. 2 00:00:11,780 --> 00:00:13,848 The living aren't. The dead aren't. 3 00:00:13,850 --> 00:00:17,686 One evening, two hands grabbed me real hard. Bam! 4 00:00:17,688 --> 00:00:19,757 All I heard was, "He is a murderer." 5 00:00:20,891 --> 00:00:23,892 - She just got attacked. - [Crying] 6 00:00:23,894 --> 00:00:26,960 He tells me they should get out of here as quick as possible. 7 00:00:26,962 --> 00:00:29,663 I feel like this is coming straight from Hell. 8 00:00:29,665 --> 00:00:34,303 Unfortunately, this is not a happy place. 9 00:00:34,803 --> 00:00:37,138 I just hear death. 10 00:00:37,140 --> 00:00:38,739 My name is Amy Allan. 11 00:00:38,839 --> 00:00:40,472 Ah, God. 12 00:00:40,474 --> 00:00:42,608 It's like, "I'm going to get you." 13 00:00:42,610 --> 00:00:43,709 I see dead people. 14 00:00:43,711 --> 00:00:44,910 Her face was all demonic. 15 00:00:44,912 --> 00:00:46,645 I speak to dead people. 16 00:00:46,647 --> 00:00:49,347 He's like, "You think you can stop me? Because you can't." 17 00:00:49,349 --> 00:00:50,916 And they speak to me. 18 00:00:50,918 --> 00:00:52,417 - What is he trying to do? - Kill them. 19 00:00:52,419 --> 00:00:55,487 But there's only one way to know if my findings are real. 20 00:00:55,489 --> 00:00:57,422 Something happened. Bam, bam, bam! 21 00:00:57,424 --> 00:00:59,057 I rely on my partner. 22 00:00:59,059 --> 00:01:00,559 I'm Steve Di Schiavi. 23 00:01:00,561 --> 00:01:02,361 I'm a retired New York City homicide detective. 24 00:01:02,363 --> 00:01:03,795 Am I seeing what I think I'm seeing? 25 00:01:03,797 --> 00:01:07,065 And I know every person, every house has secrets. 26 00:01:07,067 --> 00:01:08,066 They're everywhere. 27 00:01:08,068 --> 00:01:09,636 It's my job to reveal them. 28 00:01:09,638 --> 00:01:11,804 This guy's got the markings of a serial killer. 29 00:01:11,806 --> 00:01:14,506 But Steve and I never speak... 30 00:01:14,508 --> 00:01:16,642 We never communicate during an investigation. 31 00:01:16,644 --> 00:01:17,709 ...until the very end... 32 00:01:17,711 --> 00:01:19,477 Is this dead guy doing that to her? 33 00:01:19,479 --> 00:01:21,212 ...when we uncover if it's safe for you to stay... 34 00:01:21,214 --> 00:01:23,214 That's it. 35 00:01:23,216 --> 00:01:24,651 ...or time to get out. 36 00:01:24,653 --> 00:01:29,056 Somebody's gonna die over there soon, yeah. 37 00:01:30,330 --> 00:01:34,500 - Sync and corrected by TheDelta - - www.addic7ed.com - 38 00:01:44,505 --> 00:01:47,306 STEVE: I'm in the small town of Gates, North Carolina. 39 00:01:47,308 --> 00:01:49,908 It's about an hour south of Virginia Beach. 40 00:01:49,910 --> 00:01:52,577 I got a call from a woman who was in hysterics. 41 00:01:52,579 --> 00:01:54,946 She says she has a 17-year-old daughter 42 00:01:54,948 --> 00:01:56,414 whose life is in danger, 43 00:01:56,416 --> 00:01:59,084 and she has absolutely no idea how to protect her. 44 00:01:59,086 --> 00:02:00,887 She sounded horrible on the phone. 45 00:02:00,889 --> 00:02:02,221 She broke my heart 46 00:02:02,223 --> 00:02:04,758 and said Amy and I are her last hope. 47 00:02:11,699 --> 00:02:13,666 MATT: Before Amy arrives, 48 00:02:13,668 --> 00:02:15,168 I have to clear the area 49 00:02:15,170 --> 00:02:18,006 of anything that could influence her findings. 50 00:02:20,307 --> 00:02:23,542 Spiritual items, photographs, and religious texts 51 00:02:23,544 --> 00:02:26,412 have to be covered or removed. 52 00:02:26,414 --> 00:02:29,484 When I'm finished, tonight's walk can begin. 53 00:02:41,195 --> 00:02:43,462 AMY: There's some problems here. 54 00:02:43,464 --> 00:02:45,597 There's a lot of anger here. 55 00:02:45,599 --> 00:02:49,734 The living here, I just feel like this anger, 56 00:02:49,736 --> 00:02:54,175 it's really deconstructing their lives. 57 00:02:56,009 --> 00:03:00,114 This place is not good. It makes me feel horrible. 58 00:03:03,016 --> 00:03:05,484 Some of the living here 59 00:03:05,486 --> 00:03:07,787 don't know what's real and what's not. 60 00:03:07,789 --> 00:03:10,789 Was that a dream or not? Am I awake or not? 61 00:03:10,791 --> 00:03:13,559 Did I see that or not? Nothing makes sense. 62 00:03:13,561 --> 00:03:16,394 I don't like it. It makes my head spin. 63 00:03:16,396 --> 00:03:18,464 Oy. 64 00:03:18,466 --> 00:03:21,469 I literally feel like I'm spinning. 65 00:03:32,279 --> 00:03:33,880 STEVE: So, Deborah, I'm glad I'm here 66 00:03:33,882 --> 00:03:35,313 'cause when we spoke, 67 00:03:35,315 --> 00:03:36,882 you sounded pretty terrified on the phone. 68 00:03:36,884 --> 00:03:38,216 Do me a favor. 69 00:03:38,218 --> 00:03:39,952 Just give an idea of what's going on. 70 00:03:39,954 --> 00:03:43,388 Hearing voices, getting things thrown at you. 71 00:03:43,390 --> 00:03:45,424 Seeing some shadow people. 72 00:03:45,426 --> 00:03:49,095 And physically violent at this point. 73 00:03:49,097 --> 00:03:51,363 It's attacking my daughter. 74 00:03:51,365 --> 00:03:53,833 I don't feel like she's safe here any longer. 75 00:03:53,835 --> 00:03:57,272 The physical attacks on Nikki, what are we talking about? 76 00:03:59,306 --> 00:04:02,642 And just a couple of weeks ago, 77 00:04:02,644 --> 00:04:05,811 she... she was sexually touched. 78 00:04:05,813 --> 00:04:07,880 That kills me. 79 00:04:07,882 --> 00:04:10,151 I feel like this is coming straight from Hell. 80 00:04:11,586 --> 00:04:13,521 And I don't know how to fight it. 81 00:04:15,022 --> 00:04:17,756 Is it just you and Nikki that live here? 82 00:04:17,758 --> 00:04:19,727 No. My husband, as well. 83 00:04:21,296 --> 00:04:24,362 Nikki, she's sleeping in my room at this point 84 00:04:24,364 --> 00:04:26,898 and has been for a year. 85 00:04:26,900 --> 00:04:30,570 My husband, Jeff, he's been moved to the spare bedroom. 86 00:04:30,572 --> 00:04:32,871 How's that working on your marriage? 87 00:04:32,873 --> 00:04:35,974 Oh, it can be hard at times. I'm not gonna deny that. 88 00:04:35,976 --> 00:04:37,575 You know, for a 17-year-old 89 00:04:37,577 --> 00:04:40,078 to be sleeping with her mom at this point, 90 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:42,481 it's a little... it's a little strange. 91 00:04:42,483 --> 00:04:46,488 It is. Um... but she is so terrified. 92 00:04:49,756 --> 00:04:51,155 I'm... I'm afraid... 93 00:04:51,157 --> 00:04:54,194 I'm... I'm afraid it's gonna take her. 94 00:04:55,729 --> 00:05:00,099 I've seen the markings around her neck. 95 00:05:00,101 --> 00:05:02,602 What if I'm not there one of those times 96 00:05:02,604 --> 00:05:06,205 that the thing decides to attack her? 97 00:05:06,207 --> 00:05:07,705 That's why I called you guys. 98 00:05:07,707 --> 00:05:09,907 I'm at my wits' end at this point. 99 00:05:09,909 --> 00:05:11,710 I need help, and I need big help. 100 00:05:11,712 --> 00:05:13,412 Let's get some basics out of the way. 101 00:05:13,414 --> 00:05:15,114 How long have you guys been living here? 102 00:05:15,116 --> 00:05:17,982 Uh, we moved here in 2011. 103 00:05:17,984 --> 00:05:21,753 My father, he was diagnosed with cirrhosis of the liver 104 00:05:21,755 --> 00:05:23,388 and died of liver failure. 105 00:05:23,390 --> 00:05:25,958 He was a constant alcoholic. 106 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:30,895 I made the choice to be closer. And that's why I moved here. 107 00:05:30,897 --> 00:05:32,698 When did he die? 108 00:05:32,700 --> 00:05:34,299 In December 2012. 109 00:05:34,301 --> 00:05:35,667 All right. And how old was he when he died? 110 00:05:35,669 --> 00:05:37,169 He was 62. 111 00:05:37,171 --> 00:05:38,671 What kind of guy was he? 112 00:05:38,673 --> 00:05:44,309 Well, this man was loving, caring 113 00:05:44,311 --> 00:05:46,544 but very strict at the same time. 114 00:05:46,546 --> 00:05:50,515 He liked everything cleaned, everything put in a spot. 115 00:05:50,517 --> 00:05:51,883 Everything had its home. 116 00:05:51,885 --> 00:05:54,854 He would get my mom to walk around with a white glove 117 00:05:54,856 --> 00:05:58,556 to test the dust on our beds and our dressers. 118 00:05:58,558 --> 00:06:00,258 Do you think your father's here? 119 00:06:00,260 --> 00:06:02,497 Yes. I know he's here. 120 00:06:08,969 --> 00:06:11,302 AMY: There's a dead guy 121 00:06:11,304 --> 00:06:15,741 that is really physically present. 122 00:06:15,743 --> 00:06:21,112 He looks 50s, like late 50s, early 60s. 123 00:06:21,114 --> 00:06:22,948 And he's very fussy. 124 00:06:22,950 --> 00:06:26,253 Almost, like, neurotic, like with touching people. 125 00:06:27,322 --> 00:06:30,054 Yeah, like a weird fixation for him. 126 00:06:30,056 --> 00:06:32,056 Because of him, 127 00:06:32,058 --> 00:06:35,727 I'm having these, uh, obsessive thoughts. 128 00:06:35,729 --> 00:06:37,462 Living people here 129 00:06:37,464 --> 00:06:39,931 would have, um, some pretty bad OCD problems. 130 00:06:39,933 --> 00:06:41,566 And he feels recent. 131 00:06:41,568 --> 00:06:44,936 He was sick. Sick, sick, sick. 132 00:06:44,938 --> 00:06:46,607 He's kind of a disaster. 133 00:06:52,246 --> 00:06:54,212 Deborah, what's going on in the kitchen? 134 00:06:54,214 --> 00:06:57,116 In here, we have experienced cold spells. 135 00:06:57,118 --> 00:06:59,618 It feels like a good 10-degree drop. 136 00:06:59,620 --> 00:07:03,222 And it feels like when they are around you, 137 00:07:03,224 --> 00:07:06,092 they feel like they just drain energy from you. 138 00:07:06,094 --> 00:07:08,559 Like, instantly, you get very tired. 139 00:07:08,561 --> 00:07:10,229 I'm gonna ask you a silly question, though. 140 00:07:10,231 --> 00:07:12,063 Are you going through any kind of menopause or anything? 141 00:07:12,065 --> 00:07:13,164 Oh, hell yeah, I am. 142 00:07:13,166 --> 00:07:14,433 But it's... that's... 143 00:07:14,435 --> 00:07:16,234 That's a totally different feeling. 144 00:07:16,236 --> 00:07:17,438 This is not the same. 145 00:07:18,871 --> 00:07:23,075 I feel it staring at me and watching my every move. 146 00:07:23,077 --> 00:07:24,943 And it's like an evil presence. 147 00:07:24,945 --> 00:07:26,414 It does not want me around. 148 00:07:31,085 --> 00:07:33,719 I'm also seeing this younger guy, 149 00:07:33,721 --> 00:07:36,554 and he is a freak. 150 00:07:36,556 --> 00:07:39,525 He grabs people. 151 00:07:39,527 --> 00:07:42,128 When he touches people, they get like a... 152 00:07:42,130 --> 00:07:44,530 They actually get, like, the cold chill thing. 153 00:07:44,532 --> 00:07:47,499 And when he touched my shoulder, 154 00:07:47,501 --> 00:07:51,102 it just felt, like, icy cold. 155 00:07:51,104 --> 00:07:55,140 So the younger dude, right? When he first shows up, right? 156 00:07:55,142 --> 00:07:58,213 He says, "I want to kill things." 157 00:07:59,212 --> 00:08:02,114 Uh, he's very angry, this guy. 158 00:08:02,116 --> 00:08:05,016 And then this dead lady shows up, 159 00:08:05,018 --> 00:08:08,119 and she is all over him, 160 00:08:08,121 --> 00:08:10,789 like, trying to be all lovey-dovey and [bleep] 161 00:08:10,791 --> 00:08:13,025 But he doesn't want nothing to do with her. 162 00:08:13,027 --> 00:08:14,225 He doesn't want her there. 163 00:08:14,227 --> 00:08:15,960 And he's livid. 164 00:08:15,962 --> 00:08:18,030 And I just feel like 165 00:08:18,032 --> 00:08:22,200 it's really taking a toll on these people. 166 00:08:22,202 --> 00:08:29,342 It's like they never get a moment of... peace. 167 00:08:29,344 --> 00:08:30,178 Ever. 168 00:08:34,582 --> 00:08:38,551 So this is the master bedroom where you and Nikki sleep? 169 00:08:38,553 --> 00:08:40,952 It's the worst room, for me, in this house. 170 00:08:40,954 --> 00:08:42,821 I can't sleep. 171 00:08:42,823 --> 00:08:44,388 One evening, I was laying here 172 00:08:44,390 --> 00:08:46,425 in the bed with my daughter, Nikki. 173 00:08:46,427 --> 00:08:49,662 All of a sudden, it just felt like two hands grabbed me... 174 00:08:49,664 --> 00:08:52,464 one on this side, one on this side... 175 00:08:52,466 --> 00:08:55,399 and real hard, up against the bedpost. 176 00:08:55,401 --> 00:08:57,268 At the same time. Bam! 177 00:08:57,270 --> 00:09:00,071 And at the same time this was going on, 178 00:09:00,073 --> 00:09:01,874 I'm feeling a third hand. 179 00:09:01,876 --> 00:09:05,377 And it feels like a man's hand grabbing me by my throat 180 00:09:05,379 --> 00:09:08,080 and just kind of like pulling my neck up 181 00:09:08,082 --> 00:09:09,348 and choking me at the same time. 182 00:09:09,350 --> 00:09:11,182 And so how long did it last? 183 00:09:11,184 --> 00:09:12,618 About 2 or 3 minutes. 184 00:09:12,620 --> 00:09:14,820 I felt like I was getting ready to pass out. 185 00:09:14,822 --> 00:09:18,290 And my daughter, she immediately jumps out of bed 186 00:09:18,292 --> 00:09:21,292 and she's grabbing Bibles and she's praying over me 187 00:09:21,294 --> 00:09:23,696 at the same time all this is happening. 188 00:09:23,698 --> 00:09:26,098 I'm afraid to even ask you if there's anything else. 189 00:09:26,100 --> 00:09:27,566 And there is. 190 00:09:27,568 --> 00:09:30,234 And I drifted off to sleep, 191 00:09:30,236 --> 00:09:35,273 and I'm wakened by a finger... fingers. 192 00:09:35,275 --> 00:09:39,344 Went from here and they go slowly. 193 00:09:39,346 --> 00:09:41,747 And they kept coming. And they kept coming. 194 00:09:41,749 --> 00:09:44,749 And they kept coming until it reached my breast. 195 00:09:44,751 --> 00:09:49,522 And I tried to jump up, 196 00:09:49,524 --> 00:09:52,423 but the covers, they got real, real tight. 197 00:09:52,425 --> 00:09:55,027 Real tight. I couldn't get out of my covers. 198 00:09:55,029 --> 00:09:58,095 I can't push it off. I can't shoot it. 199 00:09:58,097 --> 00:10:01,199 And all I felt was the hand... the hand. 200 00:10:01,201 --> 00:10:02,768 I was violated. 201 00:10:02,770 --> 00:10:05,904 [Voice breaking] I've never told nobody this. 202 00:10:05,906 --> 00:10:08,706 All right. It's okay. 203 00:10:08,708 --> 00:10:11,009 I'm sorry. You're okay? 204 00:10:11,011 --> 00:10:13,144 It's just so much. 205 00:10:13,146 --> 00:10:15,349 I know, baby. I know, babe. 206 00:10:23,256 --> 00:10:28,125 This is more where, like, that man and woman are. 207 00:10:28,127 --> 00:10:30,195 So what does this guy do to people? 208 00:10:30,197 --> 00:10:32,096 He's capable of touching, grabbing. 209 00:10:32,098 --> 00:10:34,233 Anybody in particular that he targets? 210 00:10:34,235 --> 00:10:36,969 Well, I think females. I think he's about that. 211 00:10:36,971 --> 00:10:38,671 And he wants to kill people. 212 00:10:38,673 --> 00:10:39,939 Is that what he's trying to do? 213 00:10:39,941 --> 00:10:41,242 Yeah. 214 00:10:46,547 --> 00:10:50,648 DEBORAH: Oh, God! Stop! Stop! Stop! 215 00:10:50,650 --> 00:10:51,783 Leave her alone! 216 00:10:51,785 --> 00:10:53,451 [Nikki crying] 217 00:10:53,453 --> 00:10:55,921 After interviewing Deborah, I stepped away for a second. 218 00:10:55,923 --> 00:10:58,023 And that's when I heard screaming and crying 219 00:10:58,025 --> 00:10:59,291 coming from her room. 220 00:10:59,293 --> 00:11:02,594 Stop! It's my daughter, not yours! 221 00:11:02,596 --> 00:11:04,662 You have no right to touch her! 222 00:11:04,664 --> 00:11:07,332 I rushed over, and all I can say is 223 00:11:07,334 --> 00:11:09,469 I've never seen anything like this. 224 00:11:13,273 --> 00:11:15,706 [Both crying] 225 00:11:15,708 --> 00:11:18,811 She just got attacked. 226 00:11:18,813 --> 00:11:21,680 It started on her back first, just scratching. 227 00:11:21,682 --> 00:11:23,481 And then it grabbed her again by the neck. 228 00:11:23,483 --> 00:11:25,318 Oh, geez. Look at that. 229 00:11:26,853 --> 00:11:28,787 You can see the welts. 230 00:11:28,789 --> 00:11:30,357 [Nikki crying] 231 00:11:42,336 --> 00:11:43,969 [Deborah and Nikki crying] 232 00:11:43,971 --> 00:11:45,505 - What happened? - She just got attacked. 233 00:11:46,741 --> 00:11:50,341 It started on her back first, just scratching. 234 00:11:50,343 --> 00:11:52,043 And then it grabbed her again by the neck. 235 00:11:52,045 --> 00:11:55,214 Oh, geez. Look at that. 236 00:11:55,216 --> 00:11:57,248 You can see the welts. 237 00:11:57,250 --> 00:11:59,350 NIKKI: I feel really helpless. 238 00:11:59,352 --> 00:12:01,585 Whatever's here can go to Hell. 239 00:12:01,587 --> 00:12:04,424 [Crying] 240 00:12:11,265 --> 00:12:14,532 So, how are you doing? You're doing better from before? 241 00:12:14,534 --> 00:12:17,002 I was able to get some rest, 242 00:12:17,004 --> 00:12:18,436 and I'm doing a little bit better. 243 00:12:18,438 --> 00:12:21,340 - That happens a lot to you, doesn't it? - Yeah. 244 00:12:21,342 --> 00:12:24,176 Okay. Well, you're the reason Mom called us in. 245 00:12:24,178 --> 00:12:25,944 She thinks you're in danger. 246 00:12:25,946 --> 00:12:28,779 Do you feel the same way, that you're in deep danger here? 247 00:12:28,781 --> 00:12:30,181 At times, I really do. 248 00:12:30,183 --> 00:12:32,518 I'm scared for my family. 249 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:34,619 Okay. 250 00:12:34,621 --> 00:12:37,055 I want to talk about all the experiences you're having. 251 00:12:37,057 --> 00:12:38,223 What's going on? 252 00:12:38,225 --> 00:12:39,425 I'd get scratched. 253 00:12:39,427 --> 00:12:41,158 Like, earlier today, I was, 254 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:43,461 and I would get scratched in the shower. 255 00:12:43,463 --> 00:12:45,763 I'd feel these burning sensations. 256 00:12:45,765 --> 00:12:47,098 And then I'd look down, 257 00:12:47,100 --> 00:12:48,700 and I have scratches all over me. 258 00:12:48,702 --> 00:12:50,469 Now, what do these scratches exactly look like? 259 00:12:50,471 --> 00:12:51,670 Are they long? 260 00:12:51,672 --> 00:12:55,343 Actually, these are what it can look like. 261 00:12:58,911 --> 00:13:01,680 Oh, geez. 262 00:13:01,682 --> 00:13:04,349 So it's almost exactly like what I saw before? 263 00:13:04,351 --> 00:13:05,450 Yes. 264 00:13:05,452 --> 00:13:07,219 You're not doing this to yourself, are you? 265 00:13:07,221 --> 00:13:08,954 - No, I'm not. - Look at me. 266 00:13:08,956 --> 00:13:10,723 I'm not doing this to myself. 267 00:13:10,725 --> 00:13:12,791 [Voice breaking] I wouldn't do this to myself. 268 00:13:12,793 --> 00:13:16,994 Okay. 'Cause sometimes people do things to get attention. 269 00:13:16,996 --> 00:13:19,330 Yeah, I know. 270 00:13:19,332 --> 00:13:21,399 Are you getting touched any other way? 271 00:13:21,401 --> 00:13:22,700 Yeah. 272 00:13:22,702 --> 00:13:25,769 Um, I had been sleeping out on the couch, 273 00:13:25,771 --> 00:13:30,642 and I started feeling like something just touched me, 274 00:13:30,644 --> 00:13:31,710 just like that, 275 00:13:31,712 --> 00:13:33,581 and then go all the way down my body. 276 00:13:35,216 --> 00:13:37,148 It got sexually inappropriate with you? 277 00:13:37,150 --> 00:13:39,316 Yes. It just really freaked me out. 278 00:13:39,318 --> 00:13:41,954 I've never been touched like that before. 279 00:13:41,956 --> 00:13:43,787 Okay. It's all right. 280 00:13:43,789 --> 00:13:46,325 I feel like because of it singling me out all the time, 281 00:13:46,327 --> 00:13:49,297 maybe it has something to do with me. 282 00:13:53,232 --> 00:13:55,433 AMY: The younger guy, 283 00:13:55,435 --> 00:13:58,303 he stated that he would like to be killing things. 284 00:13:58,305 --> 00:14:01,373 Would the living in here be aware of him? 285 00:14:01,375 --> 00:14:03,307 Yeah, no, they're aware. Oh, yeah. Totally. 286 00:14:03,309 --> 00:14:06,746 Um, maybe feeling, like, movement. 287 00:14:08,682 --> 00:14:11,149 Hearing, like, mumbling, 288 00:14:11,151 --> 00:14:13,218 feeling pressure on the bed, 289 00:14:13,220 --> 00:14:15,122 like, when they're laying on the bed. 290 00:14:17,223 --> 00:14:18,658 I don't trust him. 291 00:14:26,500 --> 00:14:28,332 STEVE: Jeff, I was talking to your wife, 292 00:14:28,334 --> 00:14:29,634 and I understand this is where you're sleeping now? 293 00:14:29,636 --> 00:14:30,902 - Yeah. - Okay. 294 00:14:30,904 --> 00:14:32,437 I mean, that can't be good for the marriage. 295 00:14:32,439 --> 00:14:35,806 It is aggravating, frustrating, you know, 296 00:14:35,808 --> 00:14:38,042 that you just want to... 297 00:14:38,044 --> 00:14:39,510 Right. 298 00:14:39,512 --> 00:14:42,413 Well, earlier, I walked away for a second. 299 00:14:42,415 --> 00:14:44,449 I come back and your daughter's getting attacked. 300 00:14:44,451 --> 00:14:47,252 It's something I've never seen before. 301 00:14:47,254 --> 00:14:50,154 It... it just seems to go after, you know, women. 302 00:14:50,156 --> 00:14:53,224 To me, that's weak and... 303 00:14:53,226 --> 00:14:55,659 - Cowardice. - Yeah, exactly. 304 00:14:55,661 --> 00:14:57,928 So you consider yourself a skeptic? 305 00:14:57,930 --> 00:14:59,965 No, not anymore. 306 00:14:59,967 --> 00:15:01,867 So what changed your mind? 307 00:15:01,869 --> 00:15:04,202 The time when I saw for myself. 308 00:15:04,204 --> 00:15:06,904 There was a pot on the counter. 309 00:15:06,906 --> 00:15:09,407 It actually went off of that 310 00:15:09,409 --> 00:15:11,409 and onto the floor in the next room. 311 00:15:11,411 --> 00:15:13,311 - You saw this happen? - Yes. 312 00:15:13,313 --> 00:15:14,946 How did you react when you saw that? 313 00:15:14,948 --> 00:15:16,181 It got me pretty angry, 314 00:15:16,183 --> 00:15:18,182 I mean, to the point where I screamed at it, 315 00:15:18,184 --> 00:15:19,984 "Come on, you coward, S.O.B. 316 00:15:19,986 --> 00:15:22,619 Here I am. Take me." 317 00:15:22,621 --> 00:15:24,455 Have you seen anything else like that? 318 00:15:24,457 --> 00:15:27,191 Uh, I've seen, like, shadow figures 319 00:15:27,193 --> 00:15:28,494 out of the corner of my eye. 320 00:15:28,496 --> 00:15:30,095 In which part of the house? 321 00:15:30,097 --> 00:15:32,797 Usually right around between the bedroom I'm in now 322 00:15:32,799 --> 00:15:34,066 and my daughter's room. 323 00:15:34,068 --> 00:15:35,867 - Okay, so right here basically? - Yeah. 324 00:15:35,869 --> 00:15:38,036 Could you tell if it was a male or a female? 325 00:15:38,038 --> 00:15:39,771 - Male. - Okay. 326 00:15:39,773 --> 00:15:41,806 I got to ask you a question as a husband and a father. 327 00:15:41,808 --> 00:15:43,508 Do you think the girls are in danger? 328 00:15:43,510 --> 00:15:47,711 I don't really want to admit it, but they are getting harmed. 329 00:15:47,713 --> 00:15:49,748 I want to protect them. 330 00:15:49,750 --> 00:15:51,816 I never thought I'd ever be in a situation 331 00:15:51,818 --> 00:15:53,051 that I wouldn't be able to. 332 00:15:53,053 --> 00:15:55,289 And I don't know what to do. 333 00:15:59,425 --> 00:16:04,363 That old fussy man, the OCD man, he's in here a lot. 334 00:16:04,365 --> 00:16:09,167 He's... He tells me, "I'm trying to wake them up. 335 00:16:09,169 --> 00:16:11,970 Wake up! Wake up!" 336 00:16:11,972 --> 00:16:13,370 MATT: Wake who up? 337 00:16:13,372 --> 00:16:15,941 I see... 338 00:16:15,943 --> 00:16:17,776 I think it... I think it's a male, 339 00:16:17,778 --> 00:16:19,912 probably in his 30s or 40s, 340 00:16:19,914 --> 00:16:24,284 waking up because he is hearing, "Wake up! Wake up!" 341 00:16:26,286 --> 00:16:30,721 The dead OCD man is trying to help this person. 342 00:16:30,723 --> 00:16:33,825 He's trying to warn. 343 00:16:33,827 --> 00:16:35,194 He's trying to give a warning. 344 00:16:35,196 --> 00:16:36,960 About what? 345 00:16:36,962 --> 00:16:38,598 Everything in this house. 346 00:16:41,034 --> 00:16:42,566 I think that this person 347 00:16:42,568 --> 00:16:45,936 is probably the most sensitive person in the household, 348 00:16:45,938 --> 00:16:47,104 and because of that, 349 00:16:47,106 --> 00:16:49,040 is being severely affected by this. 350 00:16:49,042 --> 00:16:51,609 He's very depressed. 351 00:16:51,611 --> 00:16:53,711 He's trying to tell them 352 00:16:53,713 --> 00:16:57,150 they probably should get out of here as quickly as possible. 353 00:17:08,695 --> 00:17:10,949 STEVE: So one of the first things I do when I start an investigation 354 00:17:11,049 --> 00:17:13,982 is reach out to the local cops, reporters, and historians. 355 00:17:13,984 --> 00:17:16,350 I just got a call back from a genealogist 356 00:17:16,352 --> 00:17:19,088 who says she might be able to help. 357 00:17:19,090 --> 00:17:20,723 Turns out, 358 00:17:20,725 --> 00:17:22,625 one of the original owners of Deborah and Jeff's property 359 00:17:22,627 --> 00:17:24,796 had a real tragic time there. 360 00:17:29,234 --> 00:17:30,799 Now, you mentioned on the phone 361 00:17:30,801 --> 00:17:33,636 one of the original owners of the property I'm investigating 362 00:17:33,638 --> 00:17:35,838 had a pretty tough time while they were there. 363 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:38,307 But before we get to that, though, who was this guy? 364 00:17:38,309 --> 00:17:40,942 His name was Mills H. Eure. 365 00:17:40,944 --> 00:17:44,713 He got the land in 1840, inherited from his grandmother. 366 00:17:44,715 --> 00:17:48,050 Okay, so the land he inherits. What kind of land is it? 367 00:17:48,052 --> 00:17:50,453 - It was most likely farmland. - Okay. 368 00:17:50,455 --> 00:17:53,054 Uh, most likely a plantation. 369 00:17:53,056 --> 00:17:58,926 And the 1860 census we do have, where Mills owned 11 slaves. 370 00:17:58,928 --> 00:18:01,397 Now, Cathy, you mentioned on the phone 371 00:18:01,399 --> 00:18:03,165 that there was tragedy with this family. 372 00:18:03,167 --> 00:18:04,466 What was the story? 373 00:18:04,468 --> 00:18:07,935 Well, Mills married in the early 1840s 374 00:18:07,937 --> 00:18:09,604 to a Miss Williams. 375 00:18:09,606 --> 00:18:13,175 They had a little girl in 1845. 376 00:18:13,177 --> 00:18:16,512 And by 1850, the mother was dead. 377 00:18:16,514 --> 00:18:17,612 Do we know what she died of? 378 00:18:17,614 --> 00:18:18,847 We do not. 379 00:18:18,849 --> 00:18:21,249 North Carolina did not require death records 380 00:18:21,251 --> 00:18:22,385 at that point in time. 381 00:18:22,387 --> 00:18:24,185 Does he ever remarry? 382 00:18:24,187 --> 00:18:25,620 He does. 383 00:18:25,622 --> 00:18:31,527 He married in 1853 to Sarah Louisa Savage. 384 00:18:31,529 --> 00:18:34,562 She was 18. He was 32. 385 00:18:34,564 --> 00:18:36,999 And then tragedy hits him again 386 00:18:37,001 --> 00:18:39,568 because the second wife died in 1859. 387 00:18:39,570 --> 00:18:41,203 She was dead by 24. 388 00:18:41,205 --> 00:18:42,369 What does she die of? 389 00:18:42,371 --> 00:18:43,606 Again, we don't know. 390 00:18:43,608 --> 00:18:45,307 All right. So I'm afraid to even ask. 391 00:18:45,309 --> 00:18:46,809 Did this guy ever get married again? 392 00:18:46,811 --> 00:18:48,010 No, he did not. 393 00:18:48,012 --> 00:18:50,979 He remained single for the rest of his life. 394 00:18:50,981 --> 00:18:52,981 Well, this is pretty good information. 395 00:18:52,983 --> 00:18:55,384 I don't know how it's gonna help in the investigation, 396 00:18:55,386 --> 00:18:56,818 but it's interesting 397 00:18:56,820 --> 00:18:59,754 how this poor guy lost two wives pretty young in life. 398 00:18:59,756 --> 00:19:02,357 I do have something else that might help you. 399 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:06,328 His only son died in a very tragic way. 400 00:19:06,330 --> 00:19:07,663 What happened? 401 00:19:07,665 --> 00:19:10,299 He apparently was an alcoholic. 402 00:19:10,301 --> 00:19:14,503 He went on a 10-day bender, and he was firing his pistol. 403 00:19:14,505 --> 00:19:16,570 People were running left and right, 404 00:19:16,572 --> 00:19:18,506 trying to get out of his way. 405 00:19:18,508 --> 00:19:21,676 He came upon a local merchant, Edward Gatlin, 406 00:19:21,678 --> 00:19:24,245 and told him he was going to kill him. 407 00:19:24,247 --> 00:19:25,514 Okay. 408 00:19:25,516 --> 00:19:27,849 Gatlin managed to reach his gun first 409 00:19:27,851 --> 00:19:30,554 and fired and shot young Mills in the back. 410 00:19:31,988 --> 00:19:35,456 We have a newspaper article that talks about that. 411 00:19:35,458 --> 00:19:39,096 Mills lingered on and died 2 days later. 412 00:19:43,132 --> 00:19:47,468 AMY: This guy was, like, super psycho when he was alive. 413 00:19:47,470 --> 00:19:49,804 The second I walked back outside, 414 00:19:49,806 --> 00:19:52,407 the young dead guy is all over me. 415 00:19:52,409 --> 00:19:55,711 And I'm starting to see he was a violent man in life. 416 00:19:55,713 --> 00:19:58,416 He's telling me he wants to kill things. 417 00:20:00,583 --> 00:20:03,185 He probably wasn't the nicest dude. 418 00:20:03,187 --> 00:20:05,389 He might've hurt people. 419 00:20:07,190 --> 00:20:08,990 Nobody's at rest here. 420 00:20:08,992 --> 00:20:11,259 The living aren't. The dead aren't. 421 00:20:11,261 --> 00:20:12,261 It's hard. 422 00:20:12,263 --> 00:20:13,764 [Sighs] 423 00:20:15,331 --> 00:20:17,965 STEVE: So far, I know the previous landowner Mills Eure 424 00:20:17,967 --> 00:20:20,636 suffered one tragedy after another, 425 00:20:20,638 --> 00:20:23,105 losing two wives at a very young age. 426 00:20:23,107 --> 00:20:25,944 But I need to see if there's anything more. 427 00:20:26,910 --> 00:20:29,810 Searching through old records, I find Thomas Pitman, 428 00:20:29,812 --> 00:20:32,047 who purchased the land from Mills Eure. 429 00:20:32,049 --> 00:20:34,582 Turns out Pitman also lost two wives 430 00:20:34,584 --> 00:20:36,553 while living on the property. 431 00:20:38,456 --> 00:20:42,724 Believe it or not, this guy's granddaughter is still alive. 432 00:20:42,726 --> 00:20:44,693 She's 96, feisty as hell, 433 00:20:44,695 --> 00:20:46,998 and willing to talk about her grandfather. 434 00:20:51,569 --> 00:20:55,370 So your grandfather, you remember him? 435 00:20:55,372 --> 00:20:57,939 Mm-hmm. - Now, how old were you when he passed away? 436 00:20:57,941 --> 00:20:59,307 Ten years old. 437 00:20:59,309 --> 00:21:00,908 Now, I understand 438 00:21:00,910 --> 00:21:03,779 your grandfather purchased my client's property in 1882. 439 00:21:03,781 --> 00:21:06,648 Yeah. But I wasn't around then. 440 00:21:06,650 --> 00:21:08,383 I would hope not. 441 00:21:08,385 --> 00:21:09,650 [Laughs] 442 00:21:09,652 --> 00:21:11,252 What kind of a man was he? 443 00:21:11,254 --> 00:21:16,224 He was a good man, always doing something for us. 444 00:21:16,226 --> 00:21:18,560 I know that your grandfather's first wife, Annie, 445 00:21:18,562 --> 00:21:20,963 died in 1874, 446 00:21:20,965 --> 00:21:23,197 but the records are unclear as to how she died. 447 00:21:23,199 --> 00:21:24,166 Do you have any idea? 448 00:21:24,168 --> 00:21:26,502 It was diphtheria. 449 00:21:26,504 --> 00:21:28,436 Now, I know your grandfather remarried 450 00:21:28,438 --> 00:21:29,437 to a woman named Sally. 451 00:21:29,439 --> 00:21:31,039 Sally died in 1891, 452 00:21:31,041 --> 00:21:34,445 but I couldn't find any records to tell me what she died of. 453 00:21:38,415 --> 00:21:40,247 Okay, so she died from the same thing? 454 00:21:40,249 --> 00:21:41,683 Mm-hmm. 455 00:21:41,685 --> 00:21:44,351 I know your grandfather lost two wives at this point. 456 00:21:44,353 --> 00:21:45,486 Did he remarry again? 457 00:21:45,488 --> 00:21:48,290 Yes, he did, in 1894. 458 00:21:48,292 --> 00:21:50,925 Stella, that's my grandmother. 459 00:21:50,927 --> 00:21:54,631 That man on the end is my grandfather. 460 00:21:56,300 --> 00:21:58,868 Now, do you know when he died? 461 00:21:58,870 --> 00:22:02,774 He died one week after his 80th birthday. 462 00:22:08,245 --> 00:22:14,649 Unfortunately, this is not, uh, a happy place. 463 00:22:14,651 --> 00:22:17,453 Like, I'm hearing that word "sorrow." 464 00:22:17,455 --> 00:22:19,788 There's a lot of sorrow here. 465 00:22:19,790 --> 00:22:22,960 A lot of sorrow, a lot of pain, a lot of loss. 466 00:22:28,264 --> 00:22:30,400 Oh, boy. 467 00:22:33,771 --> 00:22:36,605 There's something very wrong. 468 00:22:36,607 --> 00:22:39,110 Nothing is as it seems here. Nothing. 469 00:22:40,677 --> 00:22:43,648 It's pretty crazy. 470 00:22:48,718 --> 00:22:50,386 If you need us to investigate 471 00:22:50,388 --> 00:22:52,087 unexplained activity in your home, 472 00:22:52,089 --> 00:22:54,990 go to the "Dead Files" page at travelchannel.com. 473 00:22:54,992 --> 00:22:57,259 Click on "Help me, Dead Files!" to submit your story, 474 00:22:57,261 --> 00:22:58,162 and we'll help if we can. 475 00:23:05,468 --> 00:23:08,604 STEVE: Now, another thing that caught my eye during research 476 00:23:08,606 --> 00:23:11,506 was The Buffaloes, a deadly gang 477 00:23:11,508 --> 00:23:13,408 that tore through town and murdered a woman 478 00:23:13,410 --> 00:23:15,042 right next door to my client's property. 479 00:23:15,044 --> 00:23:17,545 I'm on my way to meet with a historian 480 00:23:17,547 --> 00:23:19,347 who says that The Buffaloes 481 00:23:19,349 --> 00:23:21,686 were cold-blooded killers and thieves. 482 00:23:25,988 --> 00:23:28,522 So, Chris, I know a lot about the Civil War 483 00:23:28,524 --> 00:23:29,958 from research I've done. 484 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:31,493 But I never heard of The Buffaloes. 485 00:23:31,495 --> 00:23:33,762 Buffaloes were a ragtag group of men. 486 00:23:33,764 --> 00:23:36,397 This is a picture of some Buffalo soldiers. 487 00:23:36,399 --> 00:23:38,899 They were a wandering group 488 00:23:38,901 --> 00:23:41,970 who were ex-Confederate soldiers, 489 00:23:41,972 --> 00:23:43,839 runaway slaves, thieves. 490 00:23:43,841 --> 00:23:47,141 I mean, biracial? I mean, 1860s? Really? 491 00:23:47,143 --> 00:23:48,676 Very, very unusual. 492 00:23:48,678 --> 00:23:50,744 All right. So what would these guys do? 493 00:23:50,746 --> 00:23:53,514 Well, they went on a huge crime spree in the area. 494 00:23:53,516 --> 00:23:56,652 They would attack farms, steal the people's property. 495 00:23:56,654 --> 00:23:58,253 If they met any resistance, 496 00:23:58,255 --> 00:24:00,957 they wouldn't hesitate to kill the person. 497 00:24:03,494 --> 00:24:06,027 AMY: There are men outside, 498 00:24:06,029 --> 00:24:07,396 all different colors. 499 00:24:07,398 --> 00:24:11,032 They seemed to be very agitated. 500 00:24:11,034 --> 00:24:14,168 It seems like a very desolate place, 501 00:24:14,170 --> 00:24:18,374 but I'm getting a lot of wrongful deaths here. 502 00:24:18,376 --> 00:24:20,945 That's how it feels with these men. 503 00:24:22,146 --> 00:24:24,045 So now, I know they attacked and killed a woman 504 00:24:24,047 --> 00:24:26,281 that lived right next door to my client's property. 505 00:24:26,283 --> 00:24:27,950 Do you know anything about that? 506 00:24:27,952 --> 00:24:30,118 Yes, her name was Mrs. Spivey. 507 00:24:30,120 --> 00:24:33,355 On a raid in February 1865, they attacked her house. 508 00:24:33,357 --> 00:24:35,224 They took all of her belongings, 509 00:24:35,226 --> 00:24:38,292 and then they wanted a little something extra. 510 00:24:38,294 --> 00:24:39,695 And she refused them, 511 00:24:39,697 --> 00:24:42,397 and they summarily shot and bayoneted her. 512 00:24:42,399 --> 00:24:44,133 Okay. 513 00:24:44,135 --> 00:24:45,599 On that same day, 514 00:24:45,601 --> 00:24:47,702 they actually attacked your client's property. 515 00:24:47,704 --> 00:24:49,972 Okay, who was living there at the time? 516 00:24:49,974 --> 00:24:51,041 Mills Eure. 517 00:24:52,075 --> 00:24:54,076 I already came across him in my research. 518 00:24:54,078 --> 00:24:55,210 What happened? 519 00:24:55,212 --> 00:24:58,079 They attacked, took all of his property, 520 00:24:58,081 --> 00:24:59,050 and beat him up. 521 00:25:01,851 --> 00:25:07,321 I see this woman, and she's got long black hair. 522 00:25:07,323 --> 00:25:08,956 I'm just, like, in her, 523 00:25:08,958 --> 00:25:12,394 and I'm feeling a man grabbing me 524 00:25:12,396 --> 00:25:15,066 and, like, slitting my throat. 525 00:25:17,001 --> 00:25:19,266 Then he, like... 526 00:25:19,268 --> 00:25:21,970 caved in basically half her face. 527 00:25:21,972 --> 00:25:26,344 I felt, like, this horrible pain in the right eye socket. 528 00:25:28,645 --> 00:25:32,547 And then I hear lots of women screaming and moaning. 529 00:25:32,549 --> 00:25:35,550 And then, quickly, very quickly, I see a male 530 00:25:35,552 --> 00:25:39,253 who's dressed in very dark blue with gold trim. 531 00:25:39,255 --> 00:25:43,024 I've never seen any kind of military dress like this before. 532 00:25:43,026 --> 00:25:45,629 All I heard was, "He is a murderer." 533 00:25:48,764 --> 00:25:50,964 All right. So did these guys ever get caught, 534 00:25:50,966 --> 00:25:52,800 or did they just get away with it? 535 00:25:52,802 --> 00:25:54,368 Yes, they did get caught. 536 00:25:54,370 --> 00:25:56,070 The Confederate Army came in, 537 00:25:56,072 --> 00:25:58,307 attacked their base camp, and captured 14 of these men. 538 00:25:58,309 --> 00:26:01,943 Ten were returned as deserters to their original unit, 539 00:26:01,945 --> 00:26:03,579 but four of these men 540 00:26:03,581 --> 00:26:06,681 were taken to Mrs. Spivey's house and executed. 541 00:26:06,683 --> 00:26:09,520 And here's a newspaper account of that attack. 542 00:26:11,021 --> 00:26:13,688 And what was the reason for going back to the property? 543 00:26:13,690 --> 00:26:16,625 To teach a lesson to any of the other thieves in the area. 544 00:26:16,627 --> 00:26:18,029 Okay. 545 00:26:24,001 --> 00:26:26,701 AMY: I saw several dead people on my walk, 546 00:26:26,703 --> 00:26:29,404 but the young dead man tormenting a living woman 547 00:26:29,406 --> 00:26:31,473 had me the most concerned. 548 00:26:31,475 --> 00:26:34,842 His face is all black. 549 00:26:34,844 --> 00:26:37,479 Thin nose. 550 00:26:37,481 --> 00:26:39,981 He had a weird kind of look. 551 00:26:39,983 --> 00:26:44,588 He was standing on the bed and touching her shoulder. 552 00:26:48,491 --> 00:26:49,991 Is this what you saw? 553 00:26:49,993 --> 00:26:52,029 Yes. 554 00:27:12,248 --> 00:27:15,250 STEVE: Now that Amy and I have completed our investigations, 555 00:27:15,252 --> 00:27:17,386 we're ready to reveal our findings to each other 556 00:27:17,388 --> 00:27:19,954 and our clients for the first time. 557 00:27:19,956 --> 00:27:22,691 Amy, I'd like you to meet Deborah, her husband, Jeff, 558 00:27:22,693 --> 00:27:24,059 and their daughter, Nikki. 559 00:27:24,061 --> 00:27:25,927 Now, I spent the day with the family 560 00:27:25,929 --> 00:27:28,262 and got a firsthand look at how bad things are. 561 00:27:28,264 --> 00:27:29,830 And it was very disturbing. 562 00:27:29,832 --> 00:27:32,634 Probably one of the most serious cases we've ever done. 563 00:27:32,636 --> 00:27:36,204 And the family's convinced that whatever's going on 564 00:27:36,206 --> 00:27:37,839 is going after Nikki. 565 00:27:37,841 --> 00:27:42,077 And they'll do whatever it takes to keep her safe. 566 00:27:42,079 --> 00:27:43,977 Now that Amy knows 567 00:27:43,979 --> 00:27:46,747 just a little bit about what you guys are going through, 568 00:27:46,749 --> 00:27:48,818 I'm gonna ask her to describe the walk for us. 569 00:27:50,620 --> 00:27:52,721 When I was outside, 570 00:27:52,723 --> 00:27:56,224 I saw this woman that was being murdered. 571 00:27:56,226 --> 00:27:58,960 She was in her 20s or 30s. 572 00:27:58,962 --> 00:28:01,162 She had long black hair. 573 00:28:01,164 --> 00:28:03,898 And I suddenly felt like I was kind of inside her body. 574 00:28:03,900 --> 00:28:08,535 And a male came up and grabbed me 575 00:28:08,537 --> 00:28:10,040 and slit my throat. 576 00:28:12,309 --> 00:28:17,212 I felt horrible pain in my eye socket 577 00:28:17,214 --> 00:28:19,080 and also my nose. 578 00:28:19,082 --> 00:28:20,648 And then, I saw a male 579 00:28:20,650 --> 00:28:24,252 who was wearing this really strange military outfit. 580 00:28:24,254 --> 00:28:26,954 And it was dark blue with gold. 581 00:28:26,956 --> 00:28:29,256 And he kind of had a strange hat, as well. 582 00:28:29,258 --> 00:28:30,591 It was, like, more like a cowboy hat. 583 00:28:30,593 --> 00:28:33,561 There were quite a few. 584 00:28:33,563 --> 00:28:35,463 And they were all different ages and races, 585 00:28:35,465 --> 00:28:36,864 but they were all male. 586 00:28:36,866 --> 00:28:39,333 Well, I think I can help you out on this one. 587 00:28:39,335 --> 00:28:40,835 Back in the 1860s, 588 00:28:40,837 --> 00:28:43,070 there was a group of outlaws called The Buffaloes. 589 00:28:43,072 --> 00:28:45,307 The strange thing about this group of men were 590 00:28:45,309 --> 00:28:46,674 they were multiracial, 591 00:28:46,676 --> 00:28:49,543 which was pretty odd for the time period. 592 00:28:49,545 --> 00:28:51,479 It was during the Civil War. 593 00:28:51,481 --> 00:28:52,981 They were a gang made up 594 00:28:52,983 --> 00:28:55,817 of ex-Civil War soldiers, criminals, escaped slaves. 595 00:28:55,819 --> 00:28:57,019 Wow. 596 00:28:57,021 --> 00:28:58,686 I was actually able to get a photo. 597 00:28:58,688 --> 00:28:59,820 You mentioned the uniforms. 598 00:28:59,822 --> 00:29:03,326 Oh, yeah. Oh, how weird. 599 00:29:06,529 --> 00:29:09,764 Now, in February of 1865, 600 00:29:09,766 --> 00:29:11,399 they came onto your property 601 00:29:11,401 --> 00:29:15,235 that was inhabited by a guy named Mills Eure at the time. 602 00:29:15,237 --> 00:29:16,704 I have an article here 603 00:29:16,706 --> 00:29:19,174 that says how they nearly beat him to death 604 00:29:19,176 --> 00:29:20,575 and stole all his property. 605 00:29:20,577 --> 00:29:22,577 Now, right after that happened, 606 00:29:22,579 --> 00:29:25,681 they decided to go right next door to your property 607 00:29:25,683 --> 00:29:27,549 and attack a woman named Mrs. Spivey. 608 00:29:27,551 --> 00:29:29,783 The historian I had spoke to 609 00:29:29,785 --> 00:29:31,919 said they tried to rape her after they robbed her. 610 00:29:31,921 --> 00:29:33,221 She fought back, 611 00:29:33,223 --> 00:29:36,957 and they wind up bayoneting her and shooting her. 612 00:29:36,959 --> 00:29:38,225 Mm. 613 00:29:38,227 --> 00:29:40,627 She died right in the property. 614 00:29:40,629 --> 00:29:42,797 Now, 14 of these guys were caught. 615 00:29:42,799 --> 00:29:44,733 They turned 10 over to the Confederate Army 616 00:29:44,735 --> 00:29:46,134 'cause they were deserters. 617 00:29:46,136 --> 00:29:47,801 And the other four, 618 00:29:47,803 --> 00:29:49,904 they actually brought back to to where Mrs. Spivey lived. 619 00:29:49,906 --> 00:29:51,939 They executed those men right there on the property. 620 00:29:51,941 --> 00:29:52,976 Oh, okay. 621 00:29:57,447 --> 00:30:01,515 Inside the house, I encountered a couple 622 00:30:01,517 --> 00:30:04,985 of very solid, conscious dead people. 623 00:30:04,987 --> 00:30:07,222 One was an older man. 624 00:30:07,224 --> 00:30:08,924 He has severe OCD. 625 00:30:08,926 --> 00:30:11,525 And I felt like the living 626 00:30:11,527 --> 00:30:13,560 might have some of these experiences, 627 00:30:13,562 --> 00:30:16,365 going through spells of OCD. 628 00:30:16,367 --> 00:30:19,001 So you'll, like, work a problem to death, 629 00:30:19,003 --> 00:30:21,136 or you'll reflect on something to death. 630 00:30:21,138 --> 00:30:24,405 And he likes messing with people's ears and faces. 631 00:30:24,407 --> 00:30:26,608 He likes to touch that. 632 00:30:26,610 --> 00:30:28,510 NIKKI: You just hit that on cue. 633 00:30:28,512 --> 00:30:29,910 The hair pulling, 634 00:30:29,912 --> 00:30:33,048 the messing with my face constantly at night. 635 00:30:33,050 --> 00:30:36,885 And the OCD part, I have seen that especially on her. 636 00:30:36,887 --> 00:30:39,687 Yes. I can get on one thought, 637 00:30:39,689 --> 00:30:41,756 and I can just wring it 638 00:30:41,758 --> 00:30:44,525 and just take it as far as it can go, and then some. 639 00:30:44,527 --> 00:30:46,093 Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. 640 00:30:46,095 --> 00:30:48,795 But does that happen to you when you're not home? 641 00:30:48,797 --> 00:30:50,865 No. 642 00:30:50,867 --> 00:30:53,734 Do you have any idea who this guy might've been in life? 643 00:30:53,736 --> 00:30:55,803 He was in his late 60s. 644 00:30:55,805 --> 00:30:59,107 He seemed short. He died fairly recently. 645 00:30:59,109 --> 00:31:02,843 He had compulsive behaviors in life, you know. 646 00:31:02,845 --> 00:31:05,480 He was fussy with other living people. 647 00:31:05,482 --> 00:31:07,014 He was very neurotic. 648 00:31:07,016 --> 00:31:09,015 He's not okay right now. 649 00:31:09,017 --> 00:31:11,087 Well, that's the 800-pound gorilla in the room. 650 00:31:12,155 --> 00:31:13,454 My father. 651 00:31:13,456 --> 00:31:15,223 Oh, really? 652 00:31:15,225 --> 00:31:18,092 He was 62 when he died. 653 00:31:18,094 --> 00:31:19,426 Okay. 654 00:31:19,428 --> 00:31:22,329 He was a... just a hard-ass, period. 655 00:31:22,331 --> 00:31:24,933 Strict, loving at the same time. 656 00:31:24,935 --> 00:31:28,235 My mom, she had to walk around the house with a white glove, 657 00:31:28,237 --> 00:31:29,436 check for dust. 658 00:31:29,438 --> 00:31:31,173 Wow, okay. 659 00:31:31,175 --> 00:31:32,573 Compulsive. 660 00:31:32,575 --> 00:31:38,081 So the thing is, he's drawn to you. 661 00:31:39,983 --> 00:31:43,348 He's trying to always talk to you 662 00:31:43,350 --> 00:31:44,819 to give you warnings. 663 00:31:44,821 --> 00:31:49,724 He tells me, "I'm trying to wake them up. 664 00:31:49,726 --> 00:31:52,393 Wake up! Wake up!" 665 00:31:52,395 --> 00:31:54,562 But you're just completely, like, 666 00:31:54,564 --> 00:31:56,667 I guess kind of ignoring him? 667 00:32:02,205 --> 00:32:04,038 He's trying to warn you. 668 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:08,408 He's trying to protect from the other dead that are here. 669 00:32:08,410 --> 00:32:09,977 You were hinting at him, 670 00:32:09,979 --> 00:32:11,779 like you think he may have some abilities. 671 00:32:11,781 --> 00:32:14,115 You do have quite a few dead people around you. 672 00:32:14,117 --> 00:32:19,052 And it feels like they can really talk to you, so... 673 00:32:19,054 --> 00:32:23,957 Well, I got a couple of photos of Deborah's father. 674 00:32:23,959 --> 00:32:26,194 This is her wedding day. 675 00:32:26,196 --> 00:32:28,695 Okay. 676 00:32:28,697 --> 00:32:30,964 Is that who you think it was? 677 00:32:30,966 --> 00:32:33,868 It looks like him, but way thinner. 678 00:32:33,870 --> 00:32:35,002 Way thinner. 679 00:32:35,004 --> 00:32:37,304 And when he passed, he was way thinner. 680 00:32:37,306 --> 00:32:38,740 Okay, that makes sense. 681 00:32:38,742 --> 00:32:40,207 When we spoke, 682 00:32:40,209 --> 00:32:42,543 you said you thought your father was there from time to time. 683 00:32:42,545 --> 00:32:44,113 Yeah. [Sniffles] 684 00:32:47,184 --> 00:32:50,016 Here, take that. 685 00:32:50,018 --> 00:32:51,587 Thank you. 686 00:32:57,893 --> 00:33:00,797 Just miss him. I miss him a lot. 687 00:33:03,966 --> 00:33:06,768 You mentioned you ran into a couple of dead people. 688 00:33:06,770 --> 00:33:08,069 Who else? 689 00:33:08,071 --> 00:33:11,071 One of the people that I'm most concerned about 690 00:33:11,073 --> 00:33:12,406 is this young dead guy. 691 00:33:12,408 --> 00:33:15,041 He is a threat. 692 00:33:15,043 --> 00:33:16,677 It, to me, felt like 693 00:33:16,679 --> 00:33:18,512 he didn't particularly care for women. 694 00:33:18,514 --> 00:33:23,685 I think he's kind of a psycho. 695 00:33:23,687 --> 00:33:25,352 My assumption was 696 00:33:25,354 --> 00:33:29,291 that he wasn't a particularly good person when he was alive. 697 00:33:29,293 --> 00:33:32,963 At one point, he was like, "Yeah, I want to kill things." 698 00:33:35,364 --> 00:33:37,865 Well, it... it's a shot in the dark, 699 00:33:37,867 --> 00:33:39,867 but remember the guy I told you about, Mills Eure, 700 00:33:39,869 --> 00:33:41,269 who got beat up by The Buffaloes? 701 00:33:41,271 --> 00:33:42,537 Yes. 702 00:33:42,539 --> 00:33:44,772 He had a son, Mills Jr., who was a drunk. 703 00:33:44,774 --> 00:33:47,641 And one time, he went on a 10-day alcohol bender. 704 00:33:47,643 --> 00:33:49,010 Apparently, he wound up 705 00:33:49,012 --> 00:33:51,345 walking through the streets downtown nearby, 706 00:33:51,347 --> 00:33:53,013 shooting his gun in the air. 707 00:33:53,015 --> 00:33:55,483 And people were scurrying all over the place. 708 00:33:55,485 --> 00:33:57,685 He approaches this local merchant 709 00:33:57,687 --> 00:33:59,553 by the name of Edward Gatlin. 710 00:33:59,555 --> 00:34:01,289 And he says, "I'm gonna... I'm gonna kill you." 711 00:34:01,291 --> 00:34:02,656 And he goes for his gun. 712 00:34:02,658 --> 00:34:04,158 Gatlin was a quicker shot, 713 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,093 pulled out his gun, and shoots him in the back. 714 00:34:06,095 --> 00:34:09,530 There's only other one weird thing about the property. 715 00:34:09,532 --> 00:34:11,064 And you mentioned women? 716 00:34:11,066 --> 00:34:12,667 Mm-hmm. 717 00:34:12,669 --> 00:34:15,637 Mills had two wives who died young on the property, 718 00:34:15,639 --> 00:34:18,004 and there's no record of what they died of. 719 00:34:18,006 --> 00:34:20,774 Then I spoke with a 96-year-old woman 720 00:34:20,776 --> 00:34:24,412 whose grandfather bought the land in 1882. 721 00:34:24,414 --> 00:34:26,548 His name was Thomas Pitman. 722 00:34:26,550 --> 00:34:29,350 He had lost two wives as well on the property. 723 00:34:29,352 --> 00:34:31,251 - Wow. - And they were both young. 724 00:34:31,253 --> 00:34:34,388 Interesting. Okay. 725 00:34:34,390 --> 00:34:36,591 Now, this young dead guy you saw, 726 00:34:36,593 --> 00:34:38,760 what could he do to affect the living? 727 00:34:38,762 --> 00:34:41,062 Well, the thing was, a female showed up, 728 00:34:41,064 --> 00:34:42,963 a dead female. 729 00:34:42,965 --> 00:34:44,198 And this person 730 00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:47,535 seemed to have been in a relationship with him. 731 00:34:47,537 --> 00:34:51,004 And he was very irritated that she showed up. 732 00:34:51,006 --> 00:34:53,008 And they were, like, arguing. 733 00:34:53,010 --> 00:34:55,709 And he was, like, you know, really pissed off. 734 00:34:55,711 --> 00:34:57,077 What I saw was, like, 735 00:34:57,079 --> 00:35:00,214 the living picking up on their anger and fighting, 736 00:35:00,216 --> 00:35:01,649 and so they're emulating them. 737 00:35:01,651 --> 00:35:03,084 So they're fighting, as well. 738 00:35:03,086 --> 00:35:07,588 And if he's around, you could feel, like, ice. 739 00:35:07,590 --> 00:35:08,923 Like, it was really, like... 740 00:35:08,925 --> 00:35:11,158 can go right through you, you know? 741 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:12,894 You can tell when he's around 742 00:35:12,896 --> 00:35:16,229 because it's like total 10-degree drop instantly. 743 00:35:16,231 --> 00:35:17,932 NIKKI: With the arguing, 744 00:35:17,934 --> 00:35:20,033 I've actually seen that between my parents. 745 00:35:20,035 --> 00:35:23,037 It's just so much drama, so much argument, 746 00:35:23,039 --> 00:35:26,543 so much, just, chaos. 747 00:35:27,644 --> 00:35:29,910 We're not together. 748 00:35:29,912 --> 00:35:31,245 We're not solid. 749 00:35:31,247 --> 00:35:32,979 Okay. 750 00:35:32,981 --> 00:35:34,914 Well, what concerned me 751 00:35:34,916 --> 00:35:37,417 was the room with the pastel bedspread. 752 00:35:37,419 --> 00:35:38,952 STEVE: That's Nikki's room, 753 00:35:38,954 --> 00:35:41,856 but she's so terrified in there, she sleeps with her mom. 754 00:35:41,858 --> 00:35:44,727 They're maybe feeling, like, movement. 755 00:35:46,229 --> 00:35:49,129 Hearing, like, mumbling, 756 00:35:49,131 --> 00:35:51,064 feeling pressure on the bed, 757 00:35:51,066 --> 00:35:52,899 like, when they're laying on the bed. 758 00:35:52,901 --> 00:35:56,671 AMY: He was grabbing my shoulder, 759 00:35:56,673 --> 00:36:00,307 and he was grabbing the back of my leg. 760 00:36:00,309 --> 00:36:03,343 And because he can be so physical, 761 00:36:03,345 --> 00:36:05,646 that's where it gets scary, 762 00:36:05,648 --> 00:36:08,785 because he does really hate women. 763 00:36:10,887 --> 00:36:13,053 STEVE: Deborah and Nikki both feel 764 00:36:13,055 --> 00:36:15,622 that whatever's in the house is targeting women. 765 00:36:15,624 --> 00:36:18,193 NIKKI: Everything that you said about the bedroom, 766 00:36:18,195 --> 00:36:20,560 I've experienced everything. 767 00:36:20,562 --> 00:36:22,363 The voices, the mumbling. 768 00:36:22,365 --> 00:36:24,231 I've felt the bed shake. 769 00:36:24,233 --> 00:36:26,867 Once, I got pushed back, 770 00:36:26,869 --> 00:36:29,937 and I felt like something was on top of my chest. 771 00:36:29,939 --> 00:36:30,972 Like, I couldn't breathe. 772 00:36:30,974 --> 00:36:32,142 It felt like something was on my neck. 773 00:36:32,242 --> 00:36:33,508 STEVE: It also happened to Deborah. 774 00:36:33,510 --> 00:36:35,042 She got attacked the same type of way. 775 00:36:35,044 --> 00:36:36,443 DEBORAH: I was sitting on the bed. 776 00:36:36,445 --> 00:36:37,912 My hands are just in my lap. 777 00:36:37,914 --> 00:36:39,280 And all of a sudden, 778 00:36:39,282 --> 00:36:41,582 they flew back and hit the headboard hard. 779 00:36:41,584 --> 00:36:43,850 - Mm. - And my throat just literally went up, 780 00:36:43,852 --> 00:36:45,120 and I'm being choked. 781 00:36:45,122 --> 00:36:48,823 They've been, um... 782 00:36:48,825 --> 00:36:51,225 touched inappropriately, both women. 783 00:36:51,227 --> 00:36:53,127 NIKKI: I was kind of sleeping. 784 00:36:53,129 --> 00:36:54,495 I was going in and out. 785 00:36:54,497 --> 00:36:55,363 And all of a sudden, 786 00:36:55,365 --> 00:36:57,298 I started feeling something touch me. 787 00:36:57,300 --> 00:36:59,834 And it was going from my neck, and I felt it go lower, lower, 788 00:36:59,836 --> 00:37:01,570 then I was feeling it just caress me. 789 00:37:01,572 --> 00:37:03,071 Oh, my gosh. 790 00:37:03,073 --> 00:37:04,338 STEVE: But she's not the only 791 00:37:04,340 --> 00:37:05,906 one that's been touched that way. 792 00:37:05,908 --> 00:37:07,408 So has Deborah. 793 00:37:07,410 --> 00:37:10,081 He's done that, but he got a little further. 794 00:37:13,983 --> 00:37:18,153 Why didn't you tell me about these? 795 00:37:18,155 --> 00:37:20,388 [Crying] How can I tell you 796 00:37:20,390 --> 00:37:24,691 that I think I just almost got raped by that dead guy? 797 00:37:24,693 --> 00:37:27,430 [Crying] 798 00:37:29,231 --> 00:37:33,536 I had a sketch done of what I saw. 799 00:37:38,476 --> 00:37:40,077 Geez! 800 00:37:47,015 --> 00:37:49,551 Can he really do this? 801 00:37:49,553 --> 00:37:50,684 Deborah, he has. 802 00:37:50,686 --> 00:37:52,986 [Sobs] 803 00:37:52,988 --> 00:37:55,091 Can he take her life? 804 00:38:12,175 --> 00:38:14,477 AMY: I did do a sketch. 805 00:38:20,885 --> 00:38:22,486 Geez! 806 00:38:34,930 --> 00:38:37,499 Can he really do this? 807 00:38:37,501 --> 00:38:38,633 Deborah, he has. 808 00:38:38,635 --> 00:38:39,970 [Sobs] 809 00:38:41,671 --> 00:38:43,607 Can he take her life? 810 00:38:45,209 --> 00:38:46,310 Yeah. 811 00:38:48,378 --> 00:38:53,316 He is insane, and he wants to kill people. 812 00:39:00,423 --> 00:39:01,823 NIKKI: [Sniffles] 813 00:39:01,825 --> 00:39:03,925 It would scratch me everywhere... 814 00:39:03,927 --> 00:39:09,129 my chest, my back, my stomach, my legs. 815 00:39:09,131 --> 00:39:12,901 You can actually see the scratch marks going all over. 816 00:39:12,903 --> 00:39:15,635 STEVE: And I got photos of them. 817 00:39:15,637 --> 00:39:17,807 Wow. 818 00:39:19,776 --> 00:39:23,678 I've always felt he wanted her. 819 00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:27,318 He can do anything, but I can't stop him. 820 00:39:31,153 --> 00:39:33,153 Well, guys, I know tonight was a rough night, 821 00:39:33,155 --> 00:39:34,423 but I don't think any of us 822 00:39:34,425 --> 00:39:36,156 thought it was gonna be an easy one. 823 00:39:36,158 --> 00:39:37,658 No. 824 00:39:37,660 --> 00:39:40,028 Now we need to answer your big question... 825 00:39:40,030 --> 00:39:42,296 how to keep the women of the house safe. 826 00:39:42,298 --> 00:39:44,332 For that answer, I'm gonna turn it over to Amy. 827 00:39:44,334 --> 00:39:49,504 What I would like to see happen is for a medium to come out 828 00:39:49,506 --> 00:39:55,075 and for you to receive a reading with this medium 829 00:39:55,077 --> 00:39:57,914 to talk to your father. 830 00:39:59,782 --> 00:40:01,582 - Are you okay with that? - Yeah. 831 00:40:01,584 --> 00:40:02,950 - Yeah? - Yeah. 832 00:40:02,952 --> 00:40:06,455 Okay. He'll have a lot of good advice for you. 833 00:40:06,457 --> 00:40:08,689 I think it'll be a really good experience 834 00:40:08,691 --> 00:40:10,559 for both of you guys. 835 00:40:10,561 --> 00:40:14,095 And that should help him to move on. 836 00:40:14,097 --> 00:40:18,966 Then, the next day, two mediums need to come back, 837 00:40:18,968 --> 00:40:22,104 a male medium and a female medium. 838 00:40:22,106 --> 00:40:25,673 The female medium needs to be really feminine. 839 00:40:25,675 --> 00:40:29,077 The male medium needs to be pretty tough. 840 00:40:29,079 --> 00:40:31,113 Both of the mediums 841 00:40:31,115 --> 00:40:35,249 will engage with the guy in your bedroom 842 00:40:35,251 --> 00:40:39,955 and forcefully remove him from the location. 843 00:40:39,957 --> 00:40:42,089 And his dead girlfriend will go with him 844 00:40:42,091 --> 00:40:43,624 because of their situation. 845 00:40:43,626 --> 00:40:47,928 So let me ask you a question. Why a feminine woman? 846 00:40:47,930 --> 00:40:53,267 Because a feminine woman would be, to him, 847 00:40:53,269 --> 00:40:56,303 someone that he could dominate and possess 848 00:40:56,305 --> 00:40:58,405 because he views women as weak. 849 00:40:58,407 --> 00:41:01,309 Well, this has got to be good news. 850 00:41:01,311 --> 00:41:03,144 You told me you thought it was a frigging demon in the house. 851 00:41:03,146 --> 00:41:04,479 Yeah, I'm glad it's not. 852 00:41:04,481 --> 00:41:07,117 Well, it's the next thing to a demon. 853 00:41:10,954 --> 00:41:13,687 I'm hoping that, once all of this is out, 854 00:41:13,689 --> 00:41:16,957 that the family can come back to where it was. 855 00:41:16,959 --> 00:41:20,294 Because it wasn't always a strain. 856 00:41:20,296 --> 00:41:23,164 It wasn't always chaos. It wasn't always hateful. 857 00:41:23,166 --> 00:41:26,934 Are you gonna do what Amy suggests you guys do? 858 00:41:26,936 --> 00:41:28,870 Yeah. 859 00:41:28,872 --> 00:41:30,174 Can't wait to start. 860 00:41:34,077 --> 00:41:36,278 AMY: If the family follows my advice, 861 00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,713 Deborah's dad will finally be free, 862 00:41:38,715 --> 00:41:41,682 and the evil man tormenting the women of the house 863 00:41:41,684 --> 00:41:43,151 will be kicked out for good. 864 00:41:43,153 --> 00:41:44,785 Then this family will find 865 00:41:44,787 --> 00:41:46,356 the peace it's been searching for. 866 00:41:46,406 --> 00:41:50,956 Repair and Synchronization by Easy Subtitles Synchronizer 1.0.0.0 63983

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