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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:04,466 --> 00:00:09,671 On the 15th February 2021, Harry and Meghan dropped a bombshell. 2 00:00:09,826 --> 00:00:11,911 Prince Harry and Meghan will give their first interview 3 00:00:11,936 --> 00:00:15,361 to Meghan's friend Oprah Winfrey. 4 00:00:15,386 --> 00:00:17,720 The six million dollar question, though, is just how far 5 00:00:17,745 --> 00:00:20,081 Meghan is going to go. 6 00:00:20,106 --> 00:00:22,911 F 7 00:00:22,936 --> 00:00:26,081 F 8 00:00:26,106 --> 00:00:29,951 I expect this interview not only to reverberate 9 00:00:29,976 --> 00:00:32,081 through the United States and England, but to rock 10 00:00:32,106 --> 00:00:34,801 the establishment at its very core. 11 00:00:34,826 --> 00:00:36,951 With the Queen also set to address the nation, 12 00:00:36,976 --> 00:00:40,461 are both sides now engaged in a war of words? 13 00:00:40,486 --> 00:00:43,101 If they keep popping up and making public pronouncements, 14 00:00:43,126 --> 00:00:46,470 of course, they're going to be in the media glare. 15 00:00:46,495 --> 00:00:48,520 The relationship between the Markles and the Windsors 16 00:00:48,545 --> 00:00:50,881 seemed like a fairy tale. 17 00:00:50,906 --> 00:00:53,520 With the interview, and now allegations of bullying 18 00:00:53,545 --> 00:00:57,111 by Meghan inside the Palace, which she strongly denies, 19 00:00:57,136 --> 00:01:00,361 it appears to be over. 20 00:01:00,386 --> 00:01:06,161 Outsiders have struggled to do well when they enter the Royal Family. 21 00:01:06,306 --> 00:01:08,881 Do you ever have disagreements about things? 22 00:01:08,906 --> 00:01:15,881 É 23 00:01:16,026 --> 00:01:18,441 Tonight, the inside story of when Hollywood glamour and ambition 24 00:01:18,466 --> 00:01:24,470 took on the establishment. 25 00:01:24,615 --> 00:01:27,161 Meghan wanted to have a celebrity boyfriend, and she definitely got 26 00:01:27,186 --> 00:01:29,311 that with Prince Harry. 27 00:01:29,336 --> 00:01:31,031 Forget the red carpets in Hollywood. 28 00:01:31,056 --> 00:01:33,751 This was something else. 29 00:01:33,776 --> 00:01:36,640 For me, it's an added member of the family. 30 00:01:36,665 --> 00:01:38,751 How did a marriage made in heaven descend into 31 00:01:38,776 --> 00:01:41,470 a public slanging match? 32 00:01:41,495 --> 00:01:43,390 I think Meghan's Hollywood background would have hit 33 00:01:43,415 --> 00:01:47,720 the Royal Family like a hurricane. 34 00:01:47,745 --> 00:01:50,801 Harry felt he was freeing himself, but it probably felt like an act 35 00:01:50,826 --> 00:01:53,801 of vandalism against the monarchy. 36 00:01:53,826 --> 00:01:56,671 Stripped of their titles and patronages... 37 00:01:56,696 --> 00:01:58,311 The Sussexes are isolated from what everything 38 00:01:58,336 --> 00:02:02,720 the Royal Family means. 39 00:02:02,745 --> 00:02:04,951 And that puts the Royal Family at peril. 40 00:02:04,976 --> 00:02:08,441 ...exiled from royal life. 41 00:02:08,466 --> 00:02:10,081 The Queen's statement, it's a clean cut, 42 00:02:10,106 --> 00:02:11,111 "You're out." 43 00:02:11,136 --> 00:02:13,111 In other words, "You're fired." 44 00:02:13,136 --> 00:02:15,911 Will you miss Harry and Meghan? 45 00:02:15,936 --> 00:02:18,311 With just over a day until Harry and Meghan's ground-breaking 46 00:02:18,336 --> 00:02:20,191 interview with Oprah, is this the final chapter 47 00:02:20,216 --> 00:02:23,671 in their battle with the monarchy? 48 00:02:23,696 --> 00:02:26,751 I'm just really relieved and happy to be sitting here, talking to you, 49 00:02:26,776 --> 00:02:29,001 with my wife by my side. 50 00:02:29,026 --> 00:02:31,590 Because it has been unbelievably tough for the two of us, 51 00:02:31,615 --> 00:02:35,390 but at least we had each other. 52 00:02:35,415 --> 00:02:36,470 Meghan and Harry. 53 00:02:36,495 --> 00:02:38,111 They could have resolved so many issues. 54 00:02:38,136 --> 00:02:40,081 But they're stubborn. 55 00:02:40,106 --> 00:02:42,921 And is this the moment that Meghan and Harry finally reject Royal 56 00:02:42,946 --> 00:02:45,590 service in favour of celebrity? 57 00:02:45,615 --> 00:02:47,231 There is no relationship between the Markles 58 00:02:47,256 --> 00:02:49,831 and the Royal Family. 59 00:02:49,856 --> 00:02:52,671 It had the potential to be so much better than, in fact, 60 00:02:52,696 --> 00:02:55,921 it turned out to be. 61 00:02:55,946 --> 00:03:03,946 I did not have any understanding of just what it would be like. 62 00:03:09,946 --> 00:03:14,851 Harry and Meghan are one of the most talked about couples on the planet. 63 00:03:14,876 --> 00:03:17,971 They've settled into their new lives away from the Royal Family, 64 00:03:17,996 --> 00:03:23,211 having swapped the regal backdrop of Windsor for the luxurious 65 00:03:23,356 --> 00:03:25,691 Hollywood Hills, in a move that echoes Edward VIII's infamous 66 00:03:25,716 --> 00:03:27,331 abdication. 67 00:03:27,356 --> 00:03:30,771 Quite a lot of us thought back to the abdication 68 00:03:30,796 --> 00:03:34,301 crisis in the 19305, when Wallis Simpson, a twice 69 00:03:34,326 --> 00:03:37,821 divorced woman, fell in love with a King and that King, 70 00:03:37,846 --> 00:03:40,181 Edward VIII, had to give up his throne in order 71 00:03:40,206 --> 00:03:43,851 to marry the woman he loved. 72 00:03:43,876 --> 00:03:46,490 Harry and Meghan had to divorce themselves from the Royal Family, 73 00:03:46,515 --> 00:03:49,660 just as Wallis and Edward had to divorce themselves 74 00:03:49,685 --> 00:03:54,941 from the monarchy in order to continue their relationship. 75 00:03:55,076 --> 00:03:57,251 Now, with the tell-all Oprah Winfrey interview, 76 00:03:57,276 --> 00:04:00,211 are Harry and Meghan distancing themselves from - and even setting 77 00:04:00,236 --> 00:04:07,051 themselves against - the Windsors? 78 00:04:07,206 --> 00:04:09,821 Strikes me that they feel that they can continue to control 79 00:04:09,846 --> 00:04:11,691 media coverage of them, control the way their 80 00:04:11,716 --> 00:04:12,740 image is portrayed. 81 00:04:12,765 --> 00:04:13,851 Yeah. 82 00:04:13,876 --> 00:04:16,331 We'd all like to do that. 83 00:04:16,356 --> 00:04:19,381 With the very public and unexpected announcement of their second child, 84 00:04:19,406 --> 00:04:25,331 what will the future hold for Harry and Meghan and the monarchy? 85 00:04:25,486 --> 00:04:28,331 The sad and harsh reality of this scenario is that by abdicating 86 00:04:28,356 --> 00:04:32,211 from the Royal Family completely, that the Queen and Prince Philip may 87 00:04:32,236 --> 00:04:39,660 actually never see the second child. 88 00:04:39,796 --> 00:04:42,381 And one can only think how devastated and broken the Queen 89 00:04:42,406 --> 00:04:50,251 must feel about that. 90 00:04:57,276 --> 00:05:00,101 In December 2017, Meghan Markle made history as she became the first 91 00:05:00,126 --> 00:05:05,821 royal fiancee to spend Christmas with the Queen. 92 00:05:05,916 --> 00:05:08,101 Talk about a baptism of fire. 93 00:05:08,126 --> 00:05:13,101 Here was a rare exception being made. 94 00:05:13,126 --> 00:05:16,490 Kate Middleton was not invited as William's girlfriend to spend 95 00:05:16,515 --> 00:05:19,131 Christmas at Sandringham with the Royals. 96 00:05:19,156 --> 00:05:27,156 But here was Meghan doing just that. 97 00:05:27,555 --> 00:05:31,181 And so to be invited 98 00:05:31,206 --> 00:05:33,530 The Queen is very strict when it comes to family, 99 00:05:33,555 --> 00:05:34,740 and so to be invited 100 00:05:34,765 --> 00:05:35,971 was quite a significant thing. 101 00:05:35,996 --> 00:05:37,660 I'm sure Meghan Markle was absolutely terrified. 102 00:05:37,685 --> 00:05:39,821 Although she had only met Harry the year before, 103 00:05:39,846 --> 00:05:41,740 Meghan was being fast tracked into royal life. 104 00:05:41,765 --> 00:05:43,851 This extraordinary special treatment could have possibly annoyed other 105 00:05:43,876 --> 00:05:45,051 members of the family. 106 00:05:45,076 --> 00:05:47,221 Perhaps Andrew and Sarah, because Sarah Ferguson had famously 107 00:05:47,246 --> 00:05:50,051 been not invited to spend Christmas there when her daughters 108 00:05:50,076 --> 00:05:53,301 and ex-husband were there. 109 00:05:53,326 --> 00:05:56,410 Maybe a few people might have felt that their noses were put out 110 00:05:56,435 --> 00:05:59,740 of joint because they've had to work so hard with the protocol 111 00:05:59,765 --> 00:06:02,101 and the rules and the regulations, and here enters Meghan 112 00:06:02,126 --> 00:06:04,331 and is straight into Sandringham. 113 00:06:04,356 --> 00:06:06,691 I think it would have been a very diplomatic line 114 00:06:06,716 --> 00:06:08,581 that she would have had to walk. 115 00:06:08,606 --> 00:06:11,301 Despite the huge pressures of a first Christmas 116 00:06:11,326 --> 00:06:14,581 with the in-laws, being face to face with senior royals was a perfect 117 00:06:14,606 --> 00:06:17,181 opportunity to charm The Firm. 118 00:06:17,206 --> 00:06:20,051 I'm sure it must've been pretty daunting actually for Meghan to rock 119 00:06:20,076 --> 00:06:23,301 up at Sandringham for Christmas with the Queen. 120 00:06:23,326 --> 00:06:26,410 What do you give the Queen, you know, what do you give your 121 00:06:26,435 --> 00:06:28,051 prospective father-in-law, you know, Charles, I mean, 122 00:06:28,076 --> 00:06:29,691 it must be frightfully difficult. 123 00:06:29,716 --> 00:06:32,051 The Royal Family had this tradition of not giving each 124 00:06:32,076 --> 00:06:37,891 other expensive gifts. 125 00:06:38,046 --> 00:06:40,381 In fact, the cheaper the gift, the better it is. 126 00:06:40,406 --> 00:06:41,461 Harry once 127 00:06:41,486 --> 00:06:44,051 gave it his grandmother, you know, a pair of rubber gloves 128 00:06:44,076 --> 00:06:45,131 for doing the dishes. 129 00:06:45,156 --> 00:06:53,156 I mean, really quite bizarre presents. 130 00:06:53,435 --> 00:06:55,771 Meghan would have found that as extraordinary as a certain 131 00:06:55,796 --> 00:06:58,131 Diana Spencer did at her first Christmas by buying lavish 132 00:06:58,156 --> 00:06:59,171 gifts for her in-laws. 133 00:06:59,196 --> 00:07:01,331 She never made that mistake again. 134 00:07:01,356 --> 00:07:04,131 Meghan played a blinder on that first Christmas. 135 00:07:04,156 --> 00:07:06,490 She got a toy, a singing hamster, for the Queen 136 00:07:06,515 --> 00:07:08,131 and apparently she loved it. 137 00:07:08,156 --> 00:07:11,610 And so did the corgis. 138 00:07:11,635 --> 00:07:13,530 Despite winning over the Queen, Meghan's first royal 139 00:07:13,555 --> 00:07:17,610 Christmas wasn't completely free from controversy. 140 00:07:17,635 --> 00:07:20,021 After the festivities, a remark from Prince Harry on live 141 00:07:20,046 --> 00:07:25,941 radio was said to cause tensions between Meghan and her own family. 142 00:07:26,076 --> 00:07:29,131 I think we've got one of the biggest families that I know of, 143 00:07:29,156 --> 00:07:31,740 and every family is complex as well. 144 00:07:31,765 --> 00:07:35,891 No, look, she's done an absolutely amazing job. 145 00:07:35,916 --> 00:07:38,251 She's getting in there and it's the family, I suppose, 146 00:07:38,276 --> 00:07:41,530 that she's never had. 147 00:07:41,555 --> 00:07:43,891 Harry was guest editing the Today programme on Radio 4, 148 00:07:43,916 --> 00:07:45,691 shortly afterwards. 149 00:07:45,716 --> 00:07:49,610 And he said that they'd had a lot of fun at Christmas 150 00:07:49,635 --> 00:07:52,021 and then he made a rather unfortunate remark, he said, 151 00:07:52,046 --> 00:07:55,410 "I suppose it's the family she never had," meaning Meghan. 152 00:07:55,435 --> 00:07:57,301 Well, that went down like a lead balloon 153 00:07:57,326 --> 00:07:59,581 with the Markle family, obviously. 154 00:07:59,606 --> 00:08:03,301 And it's a remark they've never forgotten. 155 00:08:03,326 --> 00:08:06,131 The family Meghan was joining was a far cry from the world 156 00:08:06,156 --> 00:08:13,740 in which she grew up. 157 00:08:14,276 --> 00:08:16,821 It was against the golden backdrop of Hollywood 158 00:08:16,846 --> 00:08:19,131 that Meghan's parents, Doria Ragland and Thomas 159 00:08:19,156 --> 00:08:22,131 Markle, first met. 160 00:08:22,156 --> 00:08:24,021 Thomas went into the entertainment industry and became 161 00:08:24,046 --> 00:08:25,610 a lighting director. 162 00:08:25,635 --> 00:08:28,971 And it was when he was doing that job on the show General Hospital, 163 00:08:28,996 --> 00:08:31,771 a big show, that he met Doria, who was training at that 164 00:08:31,796 --> 00:08:35,490 time as a make-up artist. 165 00:08:35,515 --> 00:08:38,851 She was 12 years younger than him, but they fell in love and got 166 00:08:38,876 --> 00:08:46,171 married and Meghan came along a couple of years later. 167 00:08:46,326 --> 00:08:49,131 Thomas had been married before, and he had two children much older 168 00:08:49,156 --> 00:08:55,771 than Meghan from his first marriage. 169 00:08:55,916 --> 00:08:57,771 Thomas Jr and Samantha, her two half siblings, 170 00:08:57,796 --> 00:08:58,971 they weren't close to her. 171 00:08:58,996 --> 00:09:00,461 She was not close to them. 172 00:09:00,486 --> 00:09:02,851 Despite her parents divorcing whilst she was young, 173 00:09:02,876 --> 00:09:04,860 Meghan enjoyed a supportive upbringing with both Doria 174 00:09:04,885 --> 00:09:10,171 and Thomas, evident in intimate home videos that have been shared online. 175 00:09:10,276 --> 00:09:16,171 Go ahead. 176 00:09:16,276 --> 00:09:18,660 We're gonna catch fish for dinner. 177 00:09:18,685 --> 00:09:20,771 Fish for dinner. 178 00:09:20,796 --> 00:09:23,771 That's our goal, yes it is. 179 00:09:23,796 --> 00:09:26,891 É 180 00:09:26,916 --> 00:09:32,740 F 181 00:09:32,836 --> 00:09:33,811 Am I there? 182 00:09:33,836 --> 00:09:34,860 I wonder? 183 00:09:34,885 --> 00:09:35,971 OK, see ya later. 184 00:09:35,996 --> 00:09:37,131 Bye bye. 185 00:09:37,156 --> 00:09:41,051 Where is the little button? 186 00:09:41,076 --> 00:09:43,691 OK, I got to press the button now. 187 00:09:43,716 --> 00:09:46,530 Home footage of Meghan driving in Los Angeles also gives an insight 188 00:09:46,555 --> 00:09:48,171 into the early and possibly fractured relationship 189 00:09:48,196 --> 00:09:50,941 with her father. 190 00:09:50,966 --> 00:09:53,811 We're about four minutes from my dad's house. 191 00:09:53,836 --> 00:09:56,221 From my dad's house you can see the Hollywood sign. 192 00:09:56,246 --> 00:09:59,301 But we're not going to go there because my dad and I aren't 193 00:09:59,326 --> 00:10:01,490 on the best of terms. 194 00:10:01,515 --> 00:10:03,660 She says, "We're not going there because my dad 195 00:10:03,685 --> 00:10:06,530 and I aren't getting along at the moment." 196 00:10:06,555 --> 00:10:09,451 This also gives a hint at a real relationship and it might 197 00:10:09,476 --> 00:10:11,771 show the reality of some of their relationship that perhaps 198 00:10:11,796 --> 00:10:17,731 it wasn't always great. 199 00:10:17,876 --> 00:10:20,011 Despite potential frictions, Thomas continued to be a strong 200 00:10:20,036 --> 00:10:21,651 presence in Meghan's life as she immersed 201 00:10:21,676 --> 00:10:25,931 herself in Hollywood. 202 00:10:25,956 --> 00:10:28,091 She hung around the studios where her father was 203 00:10:28,116 --> 00:10:29,131 the lighting director. 204 00:10:29,156 --> 00:10:30,291 That must be really exciting. 205 00:10:30,316 --> 00:10:32,261 And she certainly got the bug. 206 00:10:32,286 --> 00:10:36,131 Her first big break came with Suits when she got 207 00:10:36,156 --> 00:10:40,341 the plum rule of Rachel, that everybody fell in love with. 208 00:10:40,366 --> 00:10:43,981 Rachel's character was very sexy. 209 00:10:44,006 --> 00:10:47,851 She was savvy, she was ambitious. 210 00:10:47,876 --> 00:10:54,620 Actually, not dissimilar to Meghan Markle herself. 211 00:10:54,756 --> 00:10:59,901 Whilst Meghan was being thrust into the limelight, Prince Harry, 212 00:11:00,036 --> 00:11:02,901 a young officer in the British Army, was trying to escape it. 213 00:11:02,926 --> 00:11:06,011 What do you think the public perception of Harry is? 214 00:11:06,036 --> 00:11:07,061 Erm... 215 00:11:07,086 --> 00:11:08,091 I don't know. 216 00:11:08,116 --> 00:11:09,181 It fluctuates. 217 00:11:09,206 --> 00:11:11,820 It depends on what the media wants to write, I suppose. 218 00:11:11,845 --> 00:11:13,931 It's two very different things, what the public think 219 00:11:13,956 --> 00:11:15,181 and what the media think. 220 00:11:15,206 --> 00:11:17,291 The British public have always had a huge amount 221 00:11:17,316 --> 00:11:19,341 of affection for Prince Harry. 222 00:11:19,366 --> 00:11:21,461 But certainly the press have had quite a love-hate 223 00:11:21,486 --> 00:11:24,620 relationship with him. 224 00:11:24,645 --> 00:11:26,700 He was seen as a bit directionless. 225 00:11:26,725 --> 00:11:29,101 He was seen as a bit of a party boy. 226 00:11:29,126 --> 00:11:33,620 He liked having a good time. 227 00:11:33,645 --> 00:11:36,291 Despite being labelled a party Prince, as he entered his 305, 228 00:11:36,316 --> 00:11:38,620 Harry proved that he still had an important role to 229 00:11:38,645 --> 00:11:42,570 play within his family. 230 00:11:42,595 --> 00:11:44,461 He created some wonderful initiatives, the Invictus Games, 231 00:11:44,486 --> 00:11:47,380 which was very much his baby. 232 00:11:47,405 --> 00:11:50,261 He also worked on Heads Together, taking away some of the stigma 233 00:11:50,286 --> 00:11:53,461 surrounding mental health and mental health issues, being very open 234 00:11:53,486 --> 00:11:57,291 and honest about his own struggles, which was incredibly brave. 235 00:11:57,316 --> 00:12:02,771 And Harry was, at that time, arguably the most popular Royal. 236 00:12:02,926 --> 00:12:06,181 In 2016, Meghan touched down in London. 237 00:12:06,206 --> 00:12:08,820 The last thing she would have expected was a blind date 238 00:12:08,845 --> 00:12:11,981 with the fifth in line to the throne. 239 00:12:12,006 --> 00:12:14,570 It's a lot easier if you have a boyfriend that understands 240 00:12:14,595 --> 00:12:17,291 the press and understands fame. 241 00:12:17,316 --> 00:12:19,370 And she definitely got that with Prince Harry, 242 00:12:19,395 --> 00:12:27,395 you couldn't meet a more famous man in all the world than Prince Harry. 243 00:12:37,076 --> 00:12:38,461 Buckingham Palace proudly announce the engagement 244 00:12:38,486 --> 00:12:42,301 of Prince Harry and Meghan Markle. 245 00:12:42,326 --> 00:12:46,821 God Save The Queen! 246 00:12:46,846 --> 00:12:49,660 At the end of November 2017, news of Harry and Meghan's 247 00:12:49,685 --> 00:12:53,931 engagement emerged from the Palace. 248 00:12:53,956 --> 00:12:55,131 Congratulations from all of Us. 249 00:12:55,156 --> 00:12:58,251 How are you both feeling? 250 00:12:58,276 --> 00:12:59,610 Yeah, thrilled! 251 00:12:59,635 --> 00:13:00,891 Over the moon. 252 00:13:00,916 --> 00:13:02,630 Very glad it's not raining too. 253 00:13:02,655 --> 00:13:05,991 É 254 00:13:06,016 --> 00:13:09,271 F 255 00:13:09,296 --> 00:13:12,121 é 256 00:13:12,146 --> 00:13:17,271 é 257 00:13:17,426 --> 00:13:20,991 Two completely different families were to be joined together. 258 00:13:21,016 --> 00:13:25,791 But behind the scenes, tensions had already emerged. 259 00:13:25,816 --> 00:13:27,911 In my opinion, the engagement interview is when things 260 00:13:27,936 --> 00:13:30,121 really started to sour. 261 00:13:30,146 --> 00:13:31,991 Have you met each other's families, I imagine? 262 00:13:32,016 --> 00:13:34,231 Q 263 00:13:34,256 --> 00:13:35,481 F 264 00:13:35,506 --> 00:13:38,321 And Meghan, your parents, do you think - you know while very 265 00:13:38,346 --> 00:13:39,351 happy for you, obviously... 266 00:13:39,376 --> 00:13:40,430 Q 267 00:13:40,455 --> 00:13:43,041 Do you think they have worried at all about the scale 268 00:13:43,066 --> 00:13:44,231 of what you're getting into? 269 00:13:44,256 --> 00:13:45,481 F 270 00:13:45,506 --> 00:13:49,041 é 271 00:13:49,066 --> 00:13:56,121 é 272 00:14:02,655 --> 00:14:04,760 The year before their engagement announcement, Meghan had landed 273 00:14:04,785 --> 00:14:09,760 in the UK to promote her latest season of Suits. 274 00:14:09,896 --> 00:14:17,896 Lizzie Cundy spent time with Meghan as she settled into London life. 275 00:14:18,816 --> 00:14:22,121 Meghan and Harry were set up on a blind date by a mutual friend. 276 00:14:22,146 --> 00:14:23,201 They immediately clicked. 277 00:14:23,226 --> 00:14:25,591 Harry actually said it was like love at first sight. 278 00:14:25,616 --> 00:14:28,231 She was so open and he thought she was so sweet. 279 00:14:28,256 --> 00:14:30,591 And they just got on like a house on fire. 280 00:14:30,616 --> 00:14:32,041 Oh, yay, thank you for watching. 281 00:14:32,066 --> 00:14:35,351 Hi, there! 282 00:14:35,376 --> 00:14:37,271 Very few people knew the couple were dating, 283 00:14:37,296 --> 00:14:41,711 but Meghan let her mother Doria in on the secret. 284 00:14:41,736 --> 00:14:44,121 Any young man wants to make a very good impression, 285 00:14:44,146 --> 00:14:46,041 and I don't think Harry was any different. 286 00:14:46,066 --> 00:14:49,991 So when they met in in LA in a rather luxurious mansion, 287 00:14:50,016 --> 00:14:51,680 he was a bag of nerves, apparently. 288 00:14:51,705 --> 00:14:54,871 She rather less so. 289 00:14:54,896 --> 00:14:59,071 She said that the meeting was a little bit surreal, actually, 290 00:14:59,096 --> 00:15:01,951 and I suppose it would be - "Hey mum, here's a Prince." 291 00:15:01,976 --> 00:15:04,041 But it went very well, and Harry has become 292 00:15:04,066 --> 00:15:05,151 extremely fond of Daria. 293 00:15:05,176 --> 00:15:08,841 She's been a close part of their lives pretty much ever since. 294 00:15:08,866 --> 00:15:12,911 But Harry and Meghan didn't meet with her father, Thomas. 295 00:15:12,936 --> 00:15:16,231 This is one of the great, what-ifs of the whole saga. 296 00:15:16,256 --> 00:15:19,711 Why didn't Harry go to Mexico to meet him? 297 00:15:19,736 --> 00:15:22,071 Why didn't Meghan take him? 298 00:15:22,096 --> 00:15:25,481 Why didn't Harry insist before it all blew up? 299 00:15:25,506 --> 00:15:29,630 I mean, the whole thing was so avoidable and I think Harry 300 00:15:29,655 --> 00:15:33,201 does have to take some responsibility for that. 301 00:15:33,226 --> 00:15:36,071 Thomas was simply not part of these early meetings. 302 00:15:36,096 --> 00:15:39,430 She seemed as she got closer and closer to Harry and a Royal life 303 00:15:39,455 --> 00:15:41,791 to be less and less inclined to rekindle her relationship 304 00:15:41,816 --> 00:15:47,071 with the Markle side of her family. 305 00:15:47,226 --> 00:15:50,231 For a few months, Harry and Meghan were able to keep their relationship 306 00:15:50,256 --> 00:15:51,630 from the outside world. 307 00:15:51,655 --> 00:15:55,550 But eventually, their secret got out. 308 00:15:55,575 --> 00:15:57,991 There weren't many that knew, only a very few friends. 309 00:15:58,016 --> 00:16:02,711 Then suddenly it got leaked to the press that Harry 310 00:16:02,736 --> 00:16:05,550 had a new girlfriend. 311 00:16:05,575 --> 00:16:08,151 If you haven't read any of that coverage, she's Meghan Markle, 312 00:16:08,176 --> 00:16:11,121 a 35-year-old film and TV actress from California. 313 00:16:11,146 --> 00:16:15,991 The world's press knew about it. 314 00:16:16,016 --> 00:16:19,201 And Harry knew more than anyone, things were going to change. 315 00:16:19,226 --> 00:16:23,510 Whilst Harry was used to intense media pressure, 316 00:16:23,535 --> 00:16:25,680 nothing could prepare Meghan and her family for the 317 00:16:25,705 --> 00:16:27,791 attention that followed. 318 00:16:27,816 --> 00:16:30,151 After the relationship became public, there was a huge amount 319 00:16:30,176 --> 00:16:31,191 of interest in Meghan. 320 00:16:31,216 --> 00:16:34,630 Some of it was extremely negative. 321 00:16:34,655 --> 00:16:37,961 And there were things like that that I think put a really bad taste 322 00:16:37,986 --> 00:16:40,791 in Harry and Meghan's mouth in terms of the underlying and even 323 00:16:40,816 --> 00:16:42,450 blazing blatant racism. 324 00:16:42,475 --> 00:16:47,421 With the glare of the world's media now upon both the Markles 325 00:16:47,446 --> 00:16:49,570 and the monarchy, questions were quickly asked as to 326 00:16:49,595 --> 00:16:52,861 how the relationship had reached the press. 327 00:16:52,886 --> 00:16:55,011 When in a relationship or dating with a member 328 00:16:55,036 --> 00:16:57,570 from the Royal Family from the Palace, it's not an easy 329 00:16:57,595 --> 00:17:01,091 thing to keep secret. 330 00:17:01,116 --> 00:17:03,501 Prince Harry has got his close protection and they're very 331 00:17:03,526 --> 00:17:06,091 discreet, but at the same time, there's other people who quite 332 00:17:06,116 --> 00:17:10,341 enjoy, can I say, a gossip. 333 00:17:10,366 --> 00:17:13,091 In the case of the leak about Meghan and Harry's relationship, 334 00:17:13,116 --> 00:17:16,891 which Harry was said to be incandescent and furious about, 335 00:17:16,916 --> 00:17:20,061 was rumoured to have come from someone in Prince Andrew's camp. 336 00:17:20,086 --> 00:17:23,891 I have no idea if that's the case, but what I can say is that there 337 00:17:23,916 --> 00:17:26,731 are so many leaks in the family, there were rumours about Harry's 338 00:17:26,756 --> 00:17:30,570 new girl and he was madly in love and those got out and I don't think 339 00:17:30,595 --> 00:17:38,595 Harry was quite prepared for all of that when it happened. 340 00:17:39,036 --> 00:17:41,981 The wave of intense media attention led Harry to take a public 341 00:17:42,006 --> 00:17:45,700 stand against the press. 342 00:17:45,725 --> 00:17:48,091 An explosive public statement from Harry was the first indication 343 00:17:48,116 --> 00:17:52,091 that the press were now on notice - he requested the media "pause 344 00:17:52,116 --> 00:17:56,891 and reflect before any further damage is done." 345 00:17:56,916 --> 00:18:00,171 The one thing the Royals are meant to do is make sure that everyone 346 00:18:00,196 --> 00:18:01,501 is on the same page. 347 00:18:01,526 --> 00:18:04,450 And the fact is that the Prince of Wales was abroad 348 00:18:04,475 --> 00:18:06,621 or on an official tour, Charles himself was only 349 00:18:06,646 --> 00:18:11,731 given a matter of moments to scan his son's statement. 350 00:18:11,876 --> 00:18:14,501 And there was a feeling that Harry had been thoughtless 351 00:18:14,526 --> 00:18:17,891 and that he should have consulted his father. 352 00:18:17,916 --> 00:18:22,141 He should have consulted his brother and there could have been 353 00:18:22,166 --> 00:18:25,501 a more measured response. 354 00:18:25,526 --> 00:18:28,011 With Harry and Meghan's relationship now public, 355 00:18:28,036 --> 00:18:31,251 the media interest was out of their control. 356 00:18:31,276 --> 00:18:34,450 But Meghan would need to put all that to one side, 357 00:18:34,475 --> 00:18:38,981 as she focused on important meetings behind palace walls. 358 00:18:39,006 --> 00:18:41,341 Meeting the in-laws is always a bit of an ordeal. 359 00:18:41,366 --> 00:18:42,421 Isn't it? 360 00:18:42,446 --> 00:18:45,931 And meeting your in-laws when one is going to be a future King 361 00:18:45,956 --> 00:18:48,091 meeting Prince Charles, it must have been quite tough 362 00:18:48,116 --> 00:18:51,211 for Meghan, or a little bit daunting, but she is a strong woman 363 00:18:51,236 --> 00:18:55,621 she probably marched in there and, just got on famously because she's 364 00:18:55,646 --> 00:18:57,731 a woman with lots of opinions, lots of views, 365 00:18:57,756 --> 00:19:01,931 and a confident woman. 366 00:19:01,956 --> 00:19:04,291 And those are the kinds of attributes that Charles likes. 367 00:19:04,316 --> 00:19:07,780 Charles famously adored Meghan. 368 00:19:07,805 --> 00:19:10,700 That first meeting went extraordinarily well. 369 00:19:10,725 --> 00:19:13,900 She was welcomed as a daughter, even more so than Kate Middleton 370 00:19:13,925 --> 00:19:17,501 was at the very beginning. 371 00:19:17,526 --> 00:19:20,341 As well as charming Prince Charles, Meghan also had a very successful 372 00:19:20,366 --> 00:19:25,061 first meeting with the Queen. 373 00:19:25,086 --> 00:19:26,261 The meeting went extremely well. 374 00:19:26,286 --> 00:19:28,421 It actually ran over, which is an extraordinary thing 375 00:19:28,446 --> 00:19:31,091 for the way the Queen keeps her schedule. 376 00:19:31,116 --> 00:19:34,261 Meghan was warmly welcomed. 377 00:19:34,286 --> 00:19:36,371 You know, here she is - articulate, bright, intelligent, 378 00:19:36,396 --> 00:19:40,171 well-spoken, beautiful, elegant. 379 00:19:40,196 --> 00:19:42,461 What's not to like? 380 00:19:42,486 --> 00:19:44,821 Despite charming Harry's family, did Meghan soon start to resent 381 00:19:44,846 --> 00:19:47,951 aspects of royal protocol? 382 00:19:47,976 --> 00:19:51,081 The Markle way, it seemed, was not the Windsor way. 383 00:19:51,106 --> 00:19:59,031 Meghan's first real reality check with how Royal protocol works 384 00:19:59,166 --> 00:20:05,181 was when she was wearing a necklace with "H and M" on it, and then 385 00:20:05,336 --> 00:20:06,951 told to remove it by senior courtiers, 386 00:20:06,976 --> 00:20:09,111 because it might encourage the press. 387 00:20:09,136 --> 00:20:12,231 To be told what to do, it must have been quite a shock 388 00:20:12,256 --> 00:20:14,391 anyone would kind of think, hang on, wait, someone 389 00:20:14,416 --> 00:20:16,261 telling me what to wear and which jewellery 390 00:20:16,286 --> 00:20:18,500 to wear, excuse me. 391 00:20:18,525 --> 00:20:21,901 Was it an early sign Meghan wasn't prepared to tow the royal line? 392 00:20:21,926 --> 00:20:24,540 She likes to have to have the freedom to do 393 00:20:24,565 --> 00:20:27,530 what she wants and when she wants. 394 00:20:27,555 --> 00:20:29,880 She wouldn't want to be told, you know, what to 395 00:20:29,905 --> 00:20:35,401 wear at any occasion. 396 00:20:35,535 --> 00:20:37,430 You could look at this instance and say, 397 00:20:37,455 --> 00:20:39,831 was that the beginning of, of Meghan saying, I'm not 398 00:20:39,856 --> 00:20:46,430 going to have people like this controlling me. 399 00:20:46,575 --> 00:20:51,510 Despite a whirlwind introduction to Royal life, Meghan stood firm. 400 00:20:51,535 --> 00:20:54,151 And as the final preparations for the royal wedding were put 401 00:20:54,176 --> 00:20:56,271 in place, Meghan's mother Doria was introduced to the 402 00:20:56,296 --> 00:21:01,711 establishment's key players. 403 00:21:01,856 --> 00:21:04,880 She was given VIP treatment, I suppose, perhaps it was her first 404 00:21:04,905 --> 00:21:06,791 taste of being associated with royalty, you know, 405 00:21:06,816 --> 00:21:10,351 being whisked through security at Heathrow Airport. 406 00:21:10,376 --> 00:21:12,471 She was taken first to Clarence House to meet 407 00:21:12,496 --> 00:21:13,570 Charles and Camilla. 408 00:21:13,595 --> 00:21:17,961 And I think that went very well indeed. 409 00:21:17,986 --> 00:21:20,121 Meeting all the Royals - Kate, William, Charles - 410 00:21:20,146 --> 00:21:23,430 must have felt like Royal speed dating. 411 00:21:23,455 --> 00:21:25,151 "I've got to get to know everybody. 412 00:21:25,176 --> 00:21:30,961 "I've got to form these connections really quickly." 413 00:21:31,096 --> 00:21:37,430 Even the rather wonderfully confident Doria found, you know, 414 00:21:37,575 --> 00:21:38,991 fairly awesome, actually, meeting the Queen. 415 00:21:39,016 --> 00:21:42,491 Harry again had prepared his mother-in-law to be by saying, 416 00:21:42,516 --> 00:21:44,851 "You know, she's my gran, she's my gran, try to 417 00:21:44,876 --> 00:21:46,791 think of her that way." 418 00:21:46,816 --> 00:21:51,151 I don't think many people will think about the Queen that way. 419 00:21:51,176 --> 00:21:55,111 While Doria was winning over the Windsors, another member 420 00:21:55,136 --> 00:22:00,401 of the Markle family was conspicuous in their absence. 421 00:22:00,535 --> 00:22:03,191 It had been planned that Thomas Markle would have flown over 422 00:22:03,216 --> 00:22:06,321 and that he was going to walk Meghan down the aisle as father 423 00:22:06,346 --> 00:22:11,680 of the bride, however, it came to light that Thomas Markle 424 00:22:11,816 --> 00:22:13,861 had worked with the paparazzi photographer to stage photographs 425 00:22:13,886 --> 00:22:21,111 of him ahead of the wedding. 426 00:22:21,266 --> 00:22:25,630 He was living in Mexico, surrounded by paparazzi. 427 00:22:25,655 --> 00:22:30,880 He tried to set up this deal with a photographer, in the belief 428 00:22:30,986 --> 00:22:33,711 that they would then go away. 429 00:22:33,736 --> 00:22:39,900 Well, I'm afraid that just shows his naivety. 430 00:22:40,036 --> 00:22:41,241 He found himself profoundly embarrassed. 431 00:22:41,266 --> 00:22:43,630 He thought he'd embarrassed the Royal Family, that he'd let 432 00:22:43,655 --> 00:22:49,271 down his beloved daughter, who he used to call princess 433 00:22:49,426 --> 00:22:51,791 What we've since learned, according to members of the family, 434 00:22:51,816 --> 00:22:53,991 is that there was zero support from Buckingham Palace 435 00:22:54,016 --> 00:23:02,016 or Harry and Meghan, in order to support Thomas. 436 00:23:02,655 --> 00:23:06,171 The stress of dealing with the press and the build up to the big day 437 00:23:06,196 --> 00:23:13,831 took its toll on Thomas. 438 00:23:13,986 --> 00:23:17,271 Just days before the wedding, he had a heart attack and had to go 439 00:23:17,296 --> 00:23:18,351 to the hospital. 440 00:23:18,376 --> 00:23:20,991 He had to have stents put in, and by the time 441 00:23:21,016 --> 00:23:23,601 he emerged, he declared that he was not able to fly 442 00:23:23,626 --> 00:23:31,626 because of these procedures. 443 00:23:32,176 --> 00:23:35,241 And he pulled out of the wedding, and this was a huge drama 444 00:23:35,266 --> 00:23:36,711 on the eve of a wedding. 445 00:23:36,736 --> 00:23:39,071 I mean, it's stressful enough marrying into the Royal Family, 446 00:23:39,096 --> 00:23:42,430 but to do it with all this scrutiny and there's media frenzy and this 447 00:23:42,455 --> 00:23:44,831 scandal around your family, you know, the stress must've been 448 00:23:44,856 --> 00:23:50,750 unbearable. 449 00:23:54,176 --> 00:23:56,601 Despite the frenzied build up, Harry and Meghan's big day 450 00:23:56,626 --> 00:24:00,351 was finally upon them. 451 00:24:00,376 --> 00:24:03,211 But with her father unable to give her away, Meghan was left 452 00:24:03,236 --> 00:24:06,041 with a huge dilemma. 453 00:24:06,066 --> 00:24:08,991 In finding a solution she broke with tradition, 454 00:24:09,016 --> 00:24:13,630 leaning on Harry's father, Prince Charles. 455 00:24:13,655 --> 00:24:16,271 I thought it was the perfect embodiment actually of the modern 456 00:24:16,296 --> 00:24:18,401 woman that she started out on her own, walked 457 00:24:18,426 --> 00:24:21,151 halfway down on her own. 458 00:24:21,176 --> 00:24:25,071 And then Charles joined her. 459 00:24:25,096 --> 00:24:26,880 It looked right. 460 00:24:26,905 --> 00:24:30,711 It sort of gave us an idea of, of what Meghan was going to be like, 461 00:24:30,736 --> 00:24:32,601 the sort of declaration of independence, if 462 00:24:32,626 --> 00:24:33,880 you like, on her part. 463 00:24:33,905 --> 00:24:35,750 "I don't need anyone to give me away. 464 00:24:35,775 --> 00:24:39,991 "I'm a free person." 465 00:24:40,016 --> 00:24:43,041 Was Meghan's independence also evident from the wedding's 466 00:24:43,066 --> 00:24:46,750 exclusive A- list guests? 467 00:24:46,775 --> 00:24:53,471 We saw Idris Elba and George Clooney and Oprah, you know, 468 00:24:53,626 --> 00:24:56,241 walking in, there was this kind of like, "Whoa, whoa, whoa. 469 00:24:56,266 --> 00:24:58,321 "I didn't know Meghan knew all these people." 470 00:24:58,346 --> 00:25:00,601 It was a star spotting day. 471 00:25:00,626 --> 00:25:01,680 And she looked great. 472 00:25:01,705 --> 00:25:04,991 The bride looked fantastic, it was a wonderful day. 473 00:25:05,016 --> 00:25:07,601 I think everyone just thoroughly enjoyed it. 474 00:25:07,626 --> 00:25:10,680 And you just felt a sense of true welcome of this young bride 475 00:25:10,705 --> 00:25:15,521 into the Royal fold. 476 00:25:15,546 --> 00:25:18,111 To the eyes of the world, Harry and Meghan's wedding had 477 00:25:18,136 --> 00:25:20,200 the flavour of a fairy tale. 478 00:25:20,225 --> 00:25:21,670 Meghan wanted it to be right. 479 00:25:21,695 --> 00:25:24,310 She wanted to be perfect, but she wanted it to be 480 00:25:24,335 --> 00:25:28,060 done her way, not the Royal way or how the other royals had done it. 481 00:25:28,085 --> 00:25:29,880 Forget the red carpets in Hollywood. 482 00:25:29,905 --> 00:25:33,490 This was something else. 483 00:25:33,515 --> 00:25:36,399 But even as the signatures on the wedding license 484 00:25:36,424 --> 00:25:38,519 were still drying, the Markles' wider family were beginning 485 00:25:38,544 --> 00:25:41,760 to make themselves heard. 486 00:25:41,785 --> 00:25:43,680 Everything seems so, you know, magical, hunky-dory 487 00:25:43,705 --> 00:25:46,320 after the wedding, and then it all got a bit soured, 488 00:25:46,345 --> 00:25:52,880 a bit tarnished by Meghan's family piping up again and again. 489 00:25:53,035 --> 00:25:55,320 The honeymoon for the Markles and the monarchy would soon 490 00:25:55,345 --> 00:25:57,880 come to an abrupt end. 491 00:25:57,905 --> 00:26:00,010 She was an adult, she had her own ideas 492 00:26:00,035 --> 00:26:02,210 and she was going to do it her way. 493 00:26:02,235 --> 00:26:05,320 In the past, when Royals married Royals, all the organisations, 494 00:26:05,345 --> 00:26:11,760 the firms all work together to make sure there's no issues 495 00:26:11,905 --> 00:26:14,240 where they can't have that control when you're mining into, 496 00:26:14,265 --> 00:26:18,519 um, can I say normalfamilies? 497 00:26:27,045 --> 00:26:30,869 Just days after their wedding, the new Duke and Duchess of Sussex 498 00:26:30,894 --> 00:26:33,340 were seen at their first official engagement, a garden party 499 00:26:33,365 --> 00:26:37,020 at Buckingham Palace. 500 00:26:37,045 --> 00:26:40,180 This one actually was a little bit special because the theme 501 00:26:40,205 --> 00:26:44,050 was Prince Charles, his 70th birthday. 502 00:26:44,075 --> 00:26:48,100 And that must have been extraordinary for Meghan. 503 00:26:48,125 --> 00:26:52,820 From the first instance the Queen had implored upon the Windsor 504 00:26:52,845 --> 00:26:58,150 family to embrace Meghan, not only because she was a person 505 00:26:58,285 --> 00:27:04,539 of colour and someone from an international country, 506 00:27:04,684 --> 00:27:10,510 but that she had this charm about her, almost this sassiness. 507 00:27:10,644 --> 00:27:12,230 Everything seems so, I don't know, magical, 508 00:27:12,255 --> 00:27:16,950 hunky-dory after the wedding. 509 00:27:16,975 --> 00:27:20,659 We've got this wonderful new mixed heritage, modern woman as part 510 00:27:20,684 --> 00:27:24,869 of the Royal Family, such a symbol of the monarchy 511 00:27:24,894 --> 00:27:27,739 moving with the times, and then it all got a bit soured, 512 00:27:27,764 --> 00:27:35,764 a bit tarnished by Meghan's family piping up again and again. 513 00:27:40,644 --> 00:27:43,950 Like it's so good to have a role model, someone you look up to, 514 00:27:43,975 --> 00:27:46,590 often times when it's someone who looks like you or comes 515 00:27:46,615 --> 00:27:49,430 from where you come from it's easier to connect and see it 516 00:27:49,455 --> 00:27:50,820 in a different way. 517 00:27:50,845 --> 00:27:53,230 Meghan was used to cameras and publicity, but really nothing 518 00:27:53,255 --> 00:27:57,460 can prepare someone for entering the most famous family in the world. 519 00:27:57,485 --> 00:28:03,180 And I think even she admitted she was taken aback by it. 520 00:28:03,325 --> 00:28:06,430 As Meghan was starting her new life, her father felt he was 521 00:28:06,455 --> 00:28:11,020 no longer part of it. 522 00:28:11,045 --> 00:28:13,659 It was extraordinary that Meghan's dad did, like, 523 00:28:13,684 --> 00:28:16,020 a press tour in the days after the wedding, putting 524 00:28:16,045 --> 00:28:18,690 forward his side of things. 525 00:28:18,715 --> 00:28:21,590 It can't have been very easy for Meghan to watch her dad 526 00:28:21,615 --> 00:28:26,230 on television, publicly disputing her side of the story 527 00:28:26,255 --> 00:28:29,150 or her version of events. 528 00:28:29,175 --> 00:28:31,940 Well, I'm very disappointed by it. 529 00:28:31,965 --> 00:28:34,380 Millions watched as he gave an interview to good morning 530 00:28:34,405 --> 00:28:36,789 Britain, saying he hadn't heard from his daughter since 531 00:28:36,814 --> 00:28:39,300 before the wedding. 532 00:28:39,325 --> 00:28:43,180 I'm not sure why it's happening. 533 00:28:43,205 --> 00:28:45,590 I'm waiting, I'm reaching out, I've been trying to reach 534 00:28:45,615 --> 00:28:51,659 out for several weeks, everyday I try to text her. 535 00:28:51,814 --> 00:28:54,869 It demonstrated that he was a man who was going to, you know, 536 00:28:54,894 --> 00:28:58,180 shoot from the lip, if you like. 537 00:28:58,205 --> 00:29:00,480 And he wasn't afraid to say what he wanted. 538 00:29:00,505 --> 00:29:02,170 I love you very much, 539 00:29:02,195 --> 00:29:05,889 you're my daughter and I'd love to hear from you. 540 00:29:05,914 --> 00:29:08,170 Whatever differences or problems we've had, 541 00:29:08,195 --> 00:29:10,090 we should be able to work them out. 542 00:29:10,115 --> 00:29:16,559 We're family. 543 00:29:16,704 --> 00:29:19,710 If you think about a father daughter dynamic, and this isn't... 544 00:29:19,735 --> 00:29:22,809 This is an intimate family space. 545 00:29:22,834 --> 00:29:25,070 So they are now three of them. 546 00:29:25,095 --> 00:29:29,559 It's Meghan, it's Thomas and it's the media. 547 00:29:29,584 --> 00:29:31,480 I do have sympathy for Thomas Markle. 548 00:29:31,505 --> 00:29:35,200 This was a guy who had never been a celebrity, 549 00:29:35,225 --> 00:29:39,120 had never courted fame and being a celebrity, 550 00:29:39,145 --> 00:29:45,450 who was thrust into a national spotlight with zero support. 551 00:29:45,584 --> 00:29:47,480 In the past when Royals married Royals, the, 552 00:29:47,505 --> 00:29:49,889 all the organisations, the firms all work together to make 553 00:29:49,914 --> 00:29:53,710 sure there's no issues - where they can't have that control 554 00:29:53,735 --> 00:29:58,679 when you're marrying into, um, can I say normalfamilies? 555 00:30:01,834 --> 00:30:04,200 Seemingly left to cope on his own, Thomas continued 556 00:30:04,225 --> 00:30:07,639 to speak out in the press. 557 00:30:07,664 --> 00:30:10,889 Meghan took full control herself because it was her dad, 558 00:30:10,914 --> 00:30:13,450 and the Palace didn't feel that they could step 559 00:30:13,475 --> 00:30:18,200 in and insist on how she handled things with her father. 560 00:30:18,225 --> 00:30:20,679 She was an adult, she had her own ideas 561 00:30:20,704 --> 00:30:22,889 and she was going to do it her way. 562 00:30:22,914 --> 00:30:27,170 If that's the case, it was a gross miscalculation and a huge mistake. 563 00:30:27,195 --> 00:30:30,000 Where was any help from Harry or anybody in the Royal household 564 00:30:30,025 --> 00:30:33,040 to give him some guidance? 565 00:30:33,065 --> 00:30:34,250 Was he even offered it? 566 00:30:34,275 --> 00:30:35,450 Did he turn it down? 567 00:30:35,475 --> 00:30:38,809 We don't know. 568 00:30:38,945 --> 00:30:41,400 As her deteriorating relationship with her father continued 569 00:30:41,425 --> 00:30:43,889 to play out in the press, Meghan became centre stage 570 00:30:43,914 --> 00:30:47,320 in the Royal Family. 571 00:30:47,345 --> 00:30:50,810 Once you're in the family firm, you are put to work and I covered 572 00:30:50,835 --> 00:30:54,859 their first big tour in the Autumn, which was Australia, 573 00:30:54,884 --> 00:30:59,140 New Zealand, Fiji and Tonga. 574 00:30:59,165 --> 00:31:02,010 It was relentless, but, you know, they were the most famous couple 575 00:31:02,035 --> 00:31:08,010 in the world and the world wanted to see them. 576 00:31:08,165 --> 00:31:11,729 I think for Meghan, it may have been a bit of a shock because these 577 00:31:11,754 --> 00:31:14,859 tours are quite full on, you know, the long days, 578 00:31:14,884 --> 00:31:18,810 the long hours, lots to do, but it was a great introduction 579 00:31:18,835 --> 00:31:24,420 for her into the world of, of royalty British royalty 580 00:31:24,525 --> 00:31:28,010 and how to do things. 581 00:31:28,165 --> 00:31:31,010 Then a surprise announcement by the couple wrong footed 582 00:31:31,035 --> 00:31:33,170 the royal press pack - signalling that from now 583 00:31:33,195 --> 00:31:38,170 on they were determined to do things their way. 584 00:31:38,195 --> 00:31:41,879 The Palace press officials were there going through the itinerary. 585 00:31:41,904 --> 00:31:45,140 And at the end of that the British royal correspondents were called 586 00:31:45,165 --> 00:31:47,960 into a corner and we were told, "Oh, and by the way, 587 00:31:47,985 --> 00:31:49,010 she's pregnant." 588 00:31:49,035 --> 00:31:53,570 It's like, "What?" 589 00:31:53,705 --> 00:31:56,779 It was massive news and strange timing, but I think Harry and Meghan 590 00:31:56,804 --> 00:31:59,170 made that announcement because, who knows, in those early stages 591 00:31:59,195 --> 00:32:03,210 of pregnancy she might've suddenly felt that that tour was going to be 592 00:32:03,235 --> 00:32:07,290 a bit hardcore and she'd need time off. 593 00:32:07,445 --> 00:32:10,290 As Meghan and Harry prepared to start a family of their own, 594 00:32:10,315 --> 00:32:12,529 wider members of the Markle family began selling stories 595 00:32:12,554 --> 00:32:20,554 to the tabloid press. 596 00:32:21,835 --> 00:32:23,250 Meghan's half siblings, Thomas Junior 597 00:32:23,275 --> 00:32:25,859 snd Samantha, just seemed incapable of keeping quiet at this point. 598 00:32:25,884 --> 00:32:26,930 They... 599 00:32:26,955 --> 00:32:29,570 Every other week it seemed, they came out with some more 600 00:32:29,595 --> 00:32:33,779 very cruel criticism of their half-sister. 601 00:32:33,804 --> 00:32:36,609 The fact that none of them have been invited to the wedding 602 00:32:36,634 --> 00:32:41,060 clearly rankled hugely. 603 00:32:41,195 --> 00:32:43,779 You know, Meghan's answer to that was that they played very 604 00:32:43,804 --> 00:32:46,609 little part in her life. 605 00:32:46,754 --> 00:32:51,859 In a remarkable interview for ITV, Samantha criticised her step-sister. 606 00:32:51,985 --> 00:32:58,370 The smiling and the waving and, you know, the contrived British accent. 607 00:32:58,525 --> 00:33:02,060 You know, it was all seemingly great and wonderful then, 608 00:33:02,085 --> 00:33:05,320 but when the public began to criticise some of 609 00:33:05,345 --> 00:33:09,380 the expenditures and the behaviours and protocol that had been broken, 610 00:33:09,405 --> 00:33:11,970 the tune changed. 611 00:33:11,995 --> 00:33:14,859 The Queen and the members of her family must have been very 612 00:33:14,884 --> 00:33:19,789 disappointed is probably the word that Meghan's family had chosen 613 00:33:19,814 --> 00:33:25,789 to speak out in the way they did. 614 00:33:25,925 --> 00:33:28,260 So Was Meghan's key ally in the Windsor camp also 615 00:33:28,285 --> 00:33:31,370 now under pressure? 616 00:33:31,395 --> 00:33:34,400 Charles has tried to be a support, a listening ear, to give guidance, 617 00:33:34,425 --> 00:33:39,380 to help the couple. 618 00:33:39,535 --> 00:33:41,580 But from the very beginning, Harry and Meghan have 619 00:33:41,605 --> 00:33:47,350 done things their way. 620 00:33:47,485 --> 00:33:50,100 The couple themselves were under increasing pressure in the media - 621 00:33:50,125 --> 00:33:52,510 now the £2.4 million renovations to Frogmore Cottage 622 00:33:52,535 --> 00:33:58,710 came to the fore. 623 00:33:58,845 --> 00:34:02,070 Harry and Meghan took any kind of criticism very personally, 624 00:34:02,095 --> 00:34:04,430 and none more so than the debate over the renovations 625 00:34:04,455 --> 00:34:10,150 to Frog more Cottage. 626 00:34:10,285 --> 00:34:13,150 Frogmore Cottage is not a cottage, it's quite a few different buildings 627 00:34:13,175 --> 00:34:15,580 that they've knocked through, spent a lot of taxpayers' 628 00:34:15,605 --> 00:34:19,900 money on renovating. 629 00:34:20,045 --> 00:34:22,710 Harry took grave exception to this idea that they were lavishing 630 00:34:22,735 --> 00:34:27,679 public money on something which was unnecessary. 631 00:34:27,834 --> 00:34:31,090 And it did feed into the narrative as far as he was concerned 632 00:34:31,115 --> 00:34:36,300 that the press was somehow being highly critical of every 633 00:34:36,405 --> 00:34:43,789 motive and everything they did. 634 00:34:43,925 --> 00:34:46,250 Meghan's mother Doria could only watch on as her daughter 635 00:34:46,275 --> 00:34:50,220 struggled with the criticism and harsh media spotlight. 636 00:34:50,245 --> 00:34:53,580 There's no doubt in my mind for what we can see that Meghan has 637 00:34:53,605 --> 00:34:58,559 a really close relationship with her mother, somebody 638 00:34:58,704 --> 00:35:02,020 who would always, you know, have her back, speak truth 639 00:35:02,045 --> 00:35:08,460 to her and help her make the kind of choices that she needs to make. 640 00:35:08,605 --> 00:35:11,940 It must be difficult for any mother to see a daughter being splashed out 641 00:35:11,965 --> 00:35:14,820 of the papers for things that she might not want to be 642 00:35:14,845 --> 00:35:18,503 in the papers, but ultimately you can't control the press, 643 00:35:18,528 --> 00:35:22,458 it is a beast of its own. 644 00:35:22,603 --> 00:35:25,218 But on the May 6th 2019 Meghan and Harry were able 645 00:35:25,243 --> 00:35:28,737 to share some happy news. 646 00:35:28,762 --> 00:35:33,657 Meghan gave birth to a baby boy - Archie Harrison Mountbatten-Windsor. 647 00:35:33,682 --> 00:35:38,607 Ancl secured the couple's direct line to the throne. 648 00:35:38,632 --> 00:35:45,218 Mother and baby are doing incredibly well, 649 00:35:45,373 --> 00:35:47,708 it's been the most amazing experience I could ever possibly 650 00:35:47,733 --> 00:35:55,733 imagined. 651 00:35:59,273 --> 00:36:01,428 Archie would be part of the blood lines of, 652 00:36:01,453 --> 00:36:03,537 uh, of a storied family with hundreds of years 653 00:36:03,562 --> 00:36:04,607 of history behind it. 654 00:36:04,632 --> 00:36:07,248 Harry and Meghan released a touching family photograph to mark Archie's 655 00:36:07,273 --> 00:36:08,708 monumental first meeting with the Monarch. 656 00:36:08,733 --> 00:36:10,857 É 657 00:36:10,882 --> 00:36:14,898 F 658 00:36:14,923 --> 00:36:19,857 é 659 00:36:19,993 --> 00:36:22,578 The birth of Archie was quite a moment for the Markle 660 00:36:22,603 --> 00:36:27,298 family certainly but for Doria that must really have resonated with her. 661 00:36:27,323 --> 00:36:29,657 She was over here so she was very much part 662 00:36:29,682 --> 00:36:36,708 of this, this new little family. 663 00:36:36,843 --> 00:36:39,458 After the birth, Meghan decided to keep her mother close by, 664 00:36:39,483 --> 00:36:42,348 Doria stayed with Meghan and Harry at Frogmore Cottage. 665 00:36:42,373 --> 00:36:45,607 And the royals began to visit the new arrival. 666 00:36:45,632 --> 00:36:48,018 William and Kate went on their own without their children 667 00:36:48,043 --> 00:36:51,218 to visit the baby, people saw that as a snub. 668 00:36:51,243 --> 00:36:53,818 I think that was fair enough, they didn't want three children 669 00:36:53,843 --> 00:36:57,178 running around the place. 670 00:36:57,203 --> 00:37:00,068 He would have turned up and given his brother a hug and, 671 00:37:00,093 --> 00:37:01,987 and they would have, um, and congratulated them. 672 00:37:02,012 --> 00:37:04,298 Charles took ten days before he visited Archie. 673 00:37:04,323 --> 00:37:06,428 Camilla could have been in tow, he perhaps thought 674 00:37:06,453 --> 00:37:09,708 he was being respectful. 675 00:37:09,733 --> 00:37:11,578 But when her mother returned to Los Angeles, 676 00:37:11,603 --> 00:37:14,818 did Meghan feel alone? 677 00:37:14,843 --> 00:37:16,817 Doria was very supportive, 678 00:37:16,842 --> 00:37:18,767 but of course, she had to go home. 679 00:37:18,792 --> 00:37:23,667 So I think Doria's absence would have hit Meghan very hard. 680 00:37:23,822 --> 00:37:26,438 In public the Sussex's appeared to be content with royal life, 681 00:37:26,463 --> 00:37:31,948 but behind the scenes, cracks were beginning to appear. 682 00:37:32,103 --> 00:37:33,718 I think she did feel very misunderstood 683 00:37:33,743 --> 00:37:36,078 and she felt trapped. 684 00:37:36,103 --> 00:37:42,108 And so she decided to do something about it. 685 00:37:42,253 --> 00:37:45,168 And I think that she and Harry, I think she kind of, 686 00:37:45,193 --> 00:37:50,108 she and Harry kind of fed off each other actually. 687 00:37:50,253 --> 00:37:54,108 Resulting in a bombshell which would rock the monarchy. 688 00:37:54,133 --> 00:37:58,718 They wanted an exit strategy from the Royal family. 689 00:38:05,962 --> 00:38:09,168 With the birth of Archie in May 2019, Meghan and Harry seemed 690 00:38:09,193 --> 00:38:11,557 to have cemented their place at the very heart of 691 00:38:11,582 --> 00:38:16,887 the Royal Family Despite ongoing battles between Meghan, 692 00:38:17,042 --> 00:38:19,128 her family and the press, for now, their popularity 693 00:38:19,153 --> 00:38:22,687 with the public remained undimmed. 694 00:38:22,712 --> 00:38:27,168 I think the Queen had, um, high hopes for them being, you know, 695 00:38:27,193 --> 00:38:32,298 great brand ambassadors for the Royal Family. 696 00:38:33,863 --> 00:38:35,328 Harry and Meghan made it clear. 697 00:38:35,353 --> 00:38:38,408 They wanted to do, they want it to be different kinds of Royals. 698 00:38:38,433 --> 00:38:41,168 They want to engage more. 699 00:38:41,193 --> 00:38:45,687 Uh, they clearly wanted to have, uh, close links with, with young people. 700 00:38:45,712 --> 00:38:51,128 I think the Queen seized on that with alacrity. 701 00:38:51,273 --> 00:38:54,248 F 702 00:38:54,273 --> 00:38:59,658 F 703 00:38:59,792 --> 00:39:04,088 F 704 00:39:04,113 --> 00:39:12,113 F 705 00:39:15,403 --> 00:39:17,658 In September 2019, the new family embarked 706 00:39:17,683 --> 00:39:20,887 on a tour of Southern Africa. 707 00:39:20,912 --> 00:39:24,838 On the surface, they seemed happier than ever. 708 00:39:24,863 --> 00:39:29,328 You've given us so much inspiration, so much hope and above all you have 709 00:39:29,353 --> 00:39:33,968 given us joy, thank you. 710 00:39:34,113 --> 00:39:38,328 But, in reality, they felt under pressure. 711 00:39:38,353 --> 00:39:40,198 In a revealing interview for an ITV documentary, 712 00:39:40,223 --> 00:39:44,048 Meghan dropped a bombshell. 713 00:39:44,073 --> 00:39:46,937 Yeah, well, I guess and thank you for asking, not many people 714 00:39:46,962 --> 00:39:49,767 have asked if I'm OK, it's a very real thing to be 715 00:39:49,792 --> 00:39:56,528 going through behind the scenes. 716 00:39:56,683 --> 00:39:59,408 Remember at this point she's had an absolute beating from the press 717 00:39:59,433 --> 00:40:02,088 on a sort of daily basis. 718 00:40:02,113 --> 00:40:06,017 She's had this horrible fallout with her father, 719 00:40:06,042 --> 00:40:09,088 she's also a new mother, um, as well and you can just see 720 00:40:09,113 --> 00:40:13,248 the sort of weight on her shoulders. 721 00:40:13,273 --> 00:40:15,378 F 722 00:40:15,403 --> 00:40:21,198 F 723 00:40:21,353 --> 00:40:24,198 The interview seemed to mark a sea change in the once happy 724 00:40:24,223 --> 00:40:25,838 relationship between Harry, Meghan and the rest 725 00:40:25,863 --> 00:40:29,478 of the Royal Family. 726 00:40:29,503 --> 00:40:32,128 Meghan seemed intent on sort of ripping up the Royal, uh, 727 00:40:32,153 --> 00:40:35,328 guidebook if you like and doing things her own way. 728 00:40:35,353 --> 00:40:40,298 É 729 00:40:40,433 --> 00:40:48,433 F 730 00:40:48,603 --> 00:40:56,088 é 731 00:40:56,223 --> 00:41:02,448 F 732 00:41:02,582 --> 00:41:05,118 F 733 00:41:05,143 --> 00:41:09,887 F 734 00:41:09,912 --> 00:41:13,448 One of the rules of being a member of the Royal Family is you never 735 00:41:13,473 --> 00:41:15,017 complain, about anything. 736 00:41:15,042 --> 00:41:19,408 So I think that, um, they would have been furious. 737 00:41:19,433 --> 00:41:22,298 And the sad thing is, I think, you know, she was just 738 00:41:22,323 --> 00:41:25,328 being honest about how she felt, but that interview probably 739 00:41:25,353 --> 00:41:28,168 made things about 100 times worse in terms 740 00:41:28,193 --> 00:41:32,408 of already frosty relations. 741 00:41:32,433 --> 00:41:36,198 É 742 00:41:36,223 --> 00:41:40,838 F 743 00:41:40,863 --> 00:41:46,118 F 744 00:41:47,353 --> 00:41:48,968 Harry then opened up on the relationship 745 00:41:48,993 --> 00:41:51,448 with his brother William. 746 00:41:51,473 --> 00:41:55,838 He revealed his true feelings to journalist Tom Bradby. 747 00:41:55,863 --> 00:41:59,687 Inevitably, you know stuff, stuff happens but look we're brothers, 748 00:41:59,712 --> 00:42:01,838 we'll always be brothers. 749 00:42:01,863 --> 00:42:04,968 We're certainly on different paths at the moment but I will always be 750 00:42:04,993 --> 00:42:09,368 there for him and as I know he will always be there for me. 751 00:42:09,503 --> 00:42:11,658 Harry's revelation further fuelled the rumours there had been 752 00:42:11,683 --> 00:42:15,728 a breakdown in relations between the two couples. 753 00:42:15,753 --> 00:42:19,528 Was it now Harry and Meghan versus the monarchy? 754 00:42:19,553 --> 00:42:22,968 I think it stemmed from William giving what he believed to be good, 755 00:42:22,993 --> 00:42:27,887 brotherly advice to Harry, make sure about your 756 00:42:27,993 --> 00:42:31,017 feelings about this girl. 757 00:42:31,042 --> 00:42:33,728 And from what we gather, it was those words, this girl, 758 00:42:33,753 --> 00:42:37,658 that particularly riled, uh, Harry, we, the, the media went 759 00:42:37,683 --> 00:42:40,017 a bit to town on that fab four. 760 00:42:40,042 --> 00:42:42,298 But that wasn't to be. 761 00:42:42,323 --> 00:42:44,838 F 762 00:42:44,863 --> 00:42:49,218 é 763 00:42:49,243 --> 00:42:51,578 é 764 00:42:51,603 --> 00:42:56,807 F 765 00:42:56,962 --> 00:43:00,608 Harry and Meghan were now fighting battles on multiple fronts. 766 00:43:00,633 --> 00:43:03,368 As the negative headlines continued to engulf them, 767 00:43:03,393 --> 00:43:08,578 they became increasingly frustrated with palace protocol. 768 00:43:08,712 --> 00:43:12,528 I think someone like Meghan, who's always been very outspoken 769 00:43:12,553 --> 00:43:15,408 would have struggled very much with not being able to comment 770 00:43:15,433 --> 00:43:18,007 and put out her version of events. 771 00:43:18,032 --> 00:43:20,757 This is not what happens in Hollywood. 772 00:43:20,782 --> 00:43:23,408 Meghan couldn't do that as a member of the Royal Family. 773 00:43:23,433 --> 00:43:28,728 And that would have been maddening for her. 774 00:43:28,863 --> 00:43:31,807 Harry and Meghan's ongoing battle with the media came 775 00:43:31,832 --> 00:43:35,218 to a head in February 2019, when excerpts of a private letter 776 00:43:35,243 --> 00:43:40,478 sent from Meghan to her father were published in the British press. 777 00:43:40,633 --> 00:43:43,248 This letter was such a watershed moment and I think this 778 00:43:43,273 --> 00:43:46,528 was the point at which, you know, this was the straw that 779 00:43:46,553 --> 00:43:50,168 broke the camel's back. 780 00:43:50,193 --> 00:43:52,578 And they announced that they were going to fight back 781 00:43:52,603 --> 00:43:54,687 and that they were taking legal action against associated 782 00:43:54,712 --> 00:43:57,968 newspapers. 783 00:43:57,993 --> 00:44:00,687 É 784 00:44:00,712 --> 00:44:03,328 é 785 00:44:03,353 --> 00:44:08,687 é 786 00:44:08,832 --> 00:44:12,937 And remember he hasn't even met Prince Harry at this point. 787 00:44:12,962 --> 00:44:15,578 So there was a possibility that had this gone to court. 788 00:44:15,603 --> 00:44:18,168 The first time he would have met his son-in-law would have 789 00:44:18,193 --> 00:44:22,968 been in a courtroom. 790 00:44:22,993 --> 00:44:25,328 The whole thing was an absolute nightmare, it was very, 791 00:44:25,353 --> 00:44:26,528 very high stakes. 792 00:44:26,553 --> 00:44:29,398 A recent ruling in the case went in Meghan's favour but there's 793 00:44:29,423 --> 00:44:33,728 still a possibility they could end up in court. 794 00:44:33,753 --> 00:44:40,608 There is one residual issue over copyright. 795 00:44:40,753 --> 00:44:45,218 Um, and I think that certainly, um, the Mail on Sunday 796 00:44:45,243 --> 00:44:47,368 and Associated Newspapers will be pushing hard to try 797 00:44:47,393 --> 00:44:49,608 and get that to court. 798 00:44:49,633 --> 00:44:52,007 In the wake of their legal action against a section 799 00:44:52,032 --> 00:44:53,937 of the British press, Harry and Meghan announced 800 00:44:53,962 --> 00:44:57,807 they were taking a six-week break from royal duties and heading 801 00:44:57,832 --> 00:45:02,168 to Canada to spend Christmas with Doria. 802 00:45:02,193 --> 00:45:04,807 What you do sometimes psychologically for yourself, 803 00:45:04,832 --> 00:45:07,248 is you remove yourself from a situation that you find 804 00:45:07,273 --> 00:45:09,648 difficult and painful, and put yourself in a space that 805 00:45:09,673 --> 00:45:17,398 you feel might be more nurturing and safe and secure. 806 00:45:17,553 --> 00:45:21,968 Christmas is a very, very important part in the Queen's calendar. 807 00:45:21,993 --> 00:45:26,118 Uh, she likes to draw her family around her. 808 00:45:26,143 --> 00:45:29,007 She and Prince Philip were getting older, they knew that there wouldn't 809 00:45:29,032 --> 00:45:33,298 be too many more Christmases and they must've been disappointed. 810 00:45:33,323 --> 00:45:37,298 F 811 00:45:37,323 --> 00:45:39,648 F 812 00:45:39,673 --> 00:45:42,218 F 813 00:45:42,243 --> 00:45:44,608 Doria could not be, uh, further away from the stuffiness 814 00:45:44,633 --> 00:45:48,858 of the senior members of the Royal Family. 815 00:45:48,883 --> 00:45:51,968 Although the festivities may have been relaxed, 816 00:45:51,993 --> 00:45:54,398 were decisions about the growing divide between Harry, 817 00:45:54,423 --> 00:45:58,968 Meghan and the monarchy being considered in Canada? 818 00:45:58,993 --> 00:46:01,807 I suspect that Meghan uses her mother a great deal 819 00:46:01,832 --> 00:46:06,007 as a source of wisdom and advice, I'd be astonished if during that 820 00:46:06,032 --> 00:46:09,757 time both she and Harry, no doubt. 821 00:46:09,782 --> 00:46:12,608 Um, hadn't spoken about the fact that they actually wanted to step 822 00:46:12,633 --> 00:46:16,448 back as senior Royals. 823 00:46:16,473 --> 00:46:19,907 F 824 00:46:19,932 --> 00:46:25,478 é 825 00:46:25,633 --> 00:46:29,168 F 826 00:46:29,193 --> 00:46:31,858 F 827 00:46:31,883 --> 00:46:35,328 When Harry and Meghan returned to Britain in January 2020 they made 828 00:46:35,353 --> 00:46:39,007 a shock announcement. 829 00:46:39,032 --> 00:46:41,368 In a statement released in the last few minutes, 830 00:46:41,393 --> 00:46:44,007 they say they intend to step back as senior members of 831 00:46:44,032 --> 00:46:48,418 the Royal Family and work to become financially independent. 832 00:46:48,443 --> 00:46:52,608 The royal firm had been here before. 833 00:46:52,633 --> 00:46:56,038 It was an electric moment in Royal history. 834 00:46:56,063 --> 00:46:59,118 Diana had essentially left the Royal Family 835 00:46:59,143 --> 00:47:01,248 and before her Fergie, Edward VIII left the Royal 836 00:47:01,273 --> 00:47:03,528 Family, he abdicated. 837 00:47:03,553 --> 00:47:08,288 Leaving the Royal Family is possible, but it's messy. 838 00:47:08,313 --> 00:47:10,448 É 839 00:47:10,473 --> 00:47:13,528 é 840 00:47:13,553 --> 00:47:18,088 £ 841 00:47:18,113 --> 00:47:22,248 The tabloids clubbed their decision as Megxit and it sent shock waves 842 00:47:22,273 --> 00:47:24,887 through the Royal Family. 843 00:47:24,912 --> 00:47:27,687 I actually spoke to some colleagues from the Royal household 844 00:47:27,712 --> 00:47:29,807 and we were all in absolute disbelief that this 845 00:47:29,832 --> 00:47:34,288 had actually happened. 846 00:47:34,313 --> 00:47:39,687 Harry, I'm sure he felt, he was freeing himself, 847 00:47:39,832 --> 00:47:42,468 but for his father and brother and grandmother it probably felt 848 00:47:42,493 --> 00:47:44,388 like an act of vandalism against the monarchy. 849 00:47:44,413 --> 00:47:51,687 They would have been both furious, but equally heartbroken as well. 850 00:47:53,423 --> 00:47:55,578 Away from the Royal Family, Meghan's supportive mother Doria 851 00:47:55,603 --> 00:47:59,288 treated the announcement with the utmost discretion. 852 00:47:59,313 --> 00:48:03,728 I think Doria has acted in the most regal way in all of this 853 00:48:03,753 --> 00:48:06,887 because the Royal way is to, uh, don't complain 854 00:48:06,912 --> 00:48:09,528 and don't explain. 855 00:48:09,553 --> 00:48:12,648 And that's exactly what Doria did. 856 00:48:12,673 --> 00:48:15,578 However, the wider members of the Markle family again 857 00:48:15,603 --> 00:48:18,088 talked to the press. 858 00:48:18,113 --> 00:48:21,398 Thomas Markle saying, oh, she, she dumped her own family. 859 00:48:21,423 --> 00:48:24,648 Now she's going to dump the Royal Family. 860 00:48:24,673 --> 00:48:29,168 F 861 00:48:29,193 --> 00:48:32,677 é 862 00:48:32,702 --> 00:48:34,498 F 863 00:48:34,523 --> 00:48:39,578 £ 864 00:48:39,702 --> 00:48:41,807 In the Windsor household, the Queen called an emergency 865 00:48:41,832 --> 00:48:43,807 meeting at Sandringham. 866 00:48:43,832 --> 00:48:47,578 Prince William was centre stage. 867 00:48:47,603 --> 00:48:52,137 It was an extraordinarily awkward, family meeting. 868 00:48:52,162 --> 00:48:54,728 And, uh, there were reports that William was actually less, um, 869 00:48:54,753 --> 00:48:57,968 inclined to negotiate. 870 00:48:57,993 --> 00:49:00,248 F 871 00:49:00,273 --> 00:49:02,608 é 872 00:49:02,633 --> 00:49:05,238 é 873 00:49:05,263 --> 00:49:09,157 The Queen and certainly Prince William's view 874 00:49:09,182 --> 00:49:12,007 was that the Royal Family doesn't work like that as an institution, 875 00:49:12,032 --> 00:49:14,137 you've got to be around for the whole gig. 876 00:49:14,162 --> 00:49:15,608 You can't just pick and choose. 877 00:49:15,633 --> 00:49:18,648 The Queen issued a statement that outlined a transition period 878 00:49:18,673 --> 00:49:22,118 to allow Harry and Meghan to step back from their roles as senior 879 00:49:22,143 --> 00:49:27,368 members of the Royal Family. 880 00:49:27,523 --> 00:49:31,007 The Queen's statement was obviously very much 881 00:49:31,032 --> 00:49:34,288 from her heart but at the same time, it was very clean cut. 882 00:49:34,313 --> 00:49:36,398 You know, this is how it is you're out. 883 00:49:36,423 --> 00:49:41,007 It's as simple as that. 884 00:49:41,032 --> 00:49:44,498 Preparations for their new life could begin, but what would become 885 00:49:44,523 --> 00:49:49,448 of the broken union between Harry, Meghan and the monarchy? 886 00:49:49,473 --> 00:49:53,307 Meghan and Harry seem to live by the beach, you know, 887 00:49:53,332 --> 00:49:55,988 do yoga and it's a very different life to the Windsors. 888 00:49:56,013 --> 00:50:00,629 And I don't think Harry will ever be able to go back to that life. 889 00:50:00,654 --> 00:50:02,509 And how would life stateside affect the dynamic 890 00:50:02,534 --> 00:50:07,709 between the two families? 891 00:50:15,324 --> 00:50:19,938 In January 2020, Harry, Meghan and Archie left 892 00:50:19,963 --> 00:50:22,049 behind their Royal life and home at Frogmore Cottage 893 00:50:22,074 --> 00:50:25,818 for a new life abroad. 894 00:50:25,843 --> 00:50:29,459 For Prince Harry it was a big decision because, uh, 895 00:50:29,484 --> 00:50:32,049 Q 896 00:50:32,074 --> 00:50:33,329 leaving his friends, his family. 897 00:50:33,354 --> 00:50:35,938 He felt he had to get his family out of Britain. 898 00:50:35,963 --> 00:50:38,539 He felt so angry and hurt about the press and about 899 00:50:38,564 --> 00:50:45,709 the institution of the monarchy. 900 00:50:46,044 --> 00:50:49,069 After a brief stay in Canada, Meghan and Harry settled 901 00:50:49,094 --> 00:50:51,349 in Santa Barbara in California, a familiar glitzy 902 00:50:51,374 --> 00:50:55,658 surrounding for Meghan. 903 00:50:55,683 --> 00:51:00,069 Meghan and Harry live in Montecito, which is a very posh, fancy enclave. 904 00:51:00,094 --> 00:51:03,349 I happened to live there for four years. 905 00:51:03,374 --> 00:51:05,759 It's very private, we know that Oprah is a neighbour, 906 00:51:05,784 --> 00:51:09,349 Katie Perry and Orlando Bloom, they all live nearby. 907 00:51:09,374 --> 00:51:12,469 Montecito residents are very protective of their own. 908 00:51:12,494 --> 00:51:14,399 They won't talk about Harry and Meghan much 909 00:51:14,424 --> 00:51:17,868 to the press and I should know because I've tried. 910 00:51:17,893 --> 00:51:20,219 She wanted to be around the place she knew. 911 00:51:20,244 --> 00:51:23,788 Meghan didn't know hardly anyone here in the UK and it can be a very 912 00:51:23,813 --> 00:51:27,759 lonely place in the palace. 913 00:51:27,784 --> 00:51:28,939 She didn't want that life. 914 00:51:28,964 --> 00:51:31,149 She wanted to be free. 915 00:51:31,174 --> 00:51:34,269 So I do feel Meghan had that influence over Harry to say, look, 916 00:51:34,294 --> 00:51:38,829 I'm not happy with this and I'm going to the States, 917 00:51:38,854 --> 00:51:42,399 that's what Meghan wanted and that's what Meghan got. 918 00:51:42,424 --> 00:51:44,399 They reportedly bought their nine-bed, 16-bath 919 00:51:44,424 --> 00:51:49,149 mansion for £112 million. 920 00:51:49,174 --> 00:51:52,479 They've seamlessly slipped in to the Californian lifestyle, 921 00:51:52,504 --> 00:51:55,759 a million miles away from the Windsor's world. 922 00:51:55,784 --> 00:52:00,469 Their friends are not going to be members of the aristocracy 923 00:52:00,494 --> 00:52:03,399 with wonderful estates in Scotland to shoot grouse on, but Hollywood 924 00:52:03,424 --> 00:52:07,988 and a celebrity culture. 925 00:52:08,013 --> 00:52:10,709 Oprah Winfrey is a friend of Meghan and Meghan's mother, 926 00:52:10,734 --> 00:52:14,069 they're friends with the Clooneys, they're making connections 927 00:52:14,094 --> 00:52:18,549 all over Tinseltown. 928 00:52:18,574 --> 00:52:20,658 F 929 00:52:20,683 --> 00:52:23,219 F 930 00:52:23,244 --> 00:52:27,788 é 931 00:52:27,813 --> 00:52:30,908 F 932 00:52:30,933 --> 00:52:33,788 é 933 00:52:33,813 --> 00:52:41,813 é 934 00:52:42,094 --> 00:52:44,709 Meghan and Harry seem to live by the beach, you know, 935 00:52:44,734 --> 00:52:49,549 do yoga and It's a very different life to the Windsors. 936 00:52:49,574 --> 00:52:52,399 What tore Harry from the British people was Meghan Markle 937 00:52:52,424 --> 00:52:57,409 and the decision to move to Los Angeles. 938 00:52:57,554 --> 00:53:00,908 Meghan never lost that desire to be a star and returning to LA 939 00:53:00,933 --> 00:53:08,933 and Hollywood was what she wanted. 940 00:53:15,714 --> 00:53:17,809 The move has only deepened the divide between Harry 941 00:53:17,834 --> 00:53:19,049 and Meghan and the Monarchy. 942 00:53:19,074 --> 00:53:21,449 Meghan's mother Doria is nowjust a 90-minute drive away, 943 00:53:21,474 --> 00:53:23,838 a stark contrast to over 5,000 miles from the Windsors. 944 00:53:23,863 --> 00:53:29,249 Harry loves Charles, they clearly have a strong bond, 945 00:53:29,404 --> 00:53:33,888 now they are literally not as close as they used to be. 946 00:53:33,913 --> 00:53:36,489 I think they are staying in touch over Skype and Zoom, 947 00:53:36,514 --> 00:53:38,199 but it's not the same, is it? 948 00:53:38,224 --> 00:53:41,279 I'm sure it pains Charles that he will not have an active role 949 00:53:41,304 --> 00:53:44,088 in the upbringing of Archie. 950 00:53:44,113 --> 00:53:46,559 Harry seems to have an absolutely brilliant relationship with Doria. 951 00:53:46,584 --> 00:53:48,768 And there's no doubt that Meghan and Doria 952 00:53:48,793 --> 00:53:53,659 are closer geographically, physically, um, perhaps emotionally, 953 00:53:53,684 --> 00:53:57,189 as well than they ever have been. 954 00:53:57,214 --> 00:54:01,379 É 955 00:54:01,404 --> 00:54:03,739 é 956 00:54:03,764 --> 00:54:06,659 é 957 00:54:06,684 --> 00:54:11,169 é 958 00:54:11,194 --> 00:54:16,919 é 959 00:54:17,074 --> 00:54:21,329 But could Harry and Meghan's plan to build their brand and become 960 00:54:21,354 --> 00:54:23,279 financially independent from the Windsors push 961 00:54:23,304 --> 00:54:27,968 the families even further apart? 962 00:54:27,993 --> 00:54:31,379 They recently released a promotional video for their Podcast with Spotify 963 00:54:31,404 --> 00:54:36,838 which reportedly looks set to bring them in around £30 million. 964 00:54:36,993 --> 00:54:39,809 MEGHAN: We created Archewell Audio to make sure we can elevate voices 965 00:54:39,834 --> 00:54:43,199 that maybe aren't being heard and hear people's stories. 966 00:54:43,224 --> 00:54:46,049 And the biggest part of this is trying to create this community 967 00:54:46,074 --> 00:54:49,609 of where you can share. 968 00:54:49,634 --> 00:54:52,018 Their biggest and perhaps most lucrative signing is with Netflix, 969 00:54:52,043 --> 00:54:55,768 rumoured to be worth over £100 million. 970 00:54:55,793 --> 00:54:59,018 But will the inevitable publicity from their deals, 971 00:54:59,043 --> 00:55:02,838 be seen as a step too far by the firm? 972 00:55:02,863 --> 00:55:04,919 Effectively, the money that they are being paid 973 00:55:04,944 --> 00:55:08,689 is because of their platform, as royalty as members 974 00:55:08,714 --> 00:55:13,768 of the Royal Family, and that's quite tricky. 975 00:55:13,913 --> 00:55:16,529 People always want the most compulsive viewing and the things 976 00:55:16,554 --> 00:55:24,088 that are going to command the most column inches and effectively 977 00:55:24,224 --> 00:55:26,088 that then translates into dollars, are those personal 978 00:55:26,113 --> 00:55:27,169 and intimate revelations. 979 00:55:27,194 --> 00:55:29,529 So I think that will be a very tricky tightrope 980 00:55:29,554 --> 00:55:32,129 for the couple to walk. 981 00:55:32,154 --> 00:55:34,729 They've created a new standard and that is one to exploit 982 00:55:34,754 --> 00:55:37,888 themselves for profit. 983 00:55:37,913 --> 00:55:45,659 Meghan is creating a new form of celebrity for herself by securing 984 00:55:45,793 --> 00:55:52,689 deals with media conglomerates in the tens and hundreds of millions 985 00:55:52,834 --> 00:55:55,409 of dollars sets her on a path to unparalleled stardom. 986 00:55:55,434 --> 00:56:02,088 Let's not be surprised if you see her return to acting. 987 00:56:02,224 --> 00:56:08,169 This here, right there is the house from the Fresh Prince of Bel-Air... 988 00:56:08,304 --> 00:56:10,888 However, in February 2021 it was Harry, not Meghan who took 989 00:56:10,913 --> 00:56:13,838 centre stage on CBS in America. 990 00:56:13,863 --> 00:56:16,088 Haz - how's your tour of LA going? 991 00:56:16,113 --> 00:56:19,169 Haz, I didn't know we were calling you Haz now. 992 00:56:19,194 --> 00:56:22,609 F 993 00:56:22,634 --> 00:56:26,479 é 994 00:56:26,504 --> 00:56:28,888 In an unprecedented move, he gave a candid TV interview 995 00:56:28,913 --> 00:56:33,729 to his long-term friend James Corden. 996 00:56:33,754 --> 00:56:38,369 Interestingly, my grandmother asked us what Archie wanted for Christmas 997 00:56:38,394 --> 00:56:43,329 and Meg said a waffle maker, she sent us a waffle maker. 998 00:56:43,354 --> 00:56:48,309 I think it's quite tricky for Harry because we know that one 999 00:56:48,334 --> 00:56:51,619 of the things that he found very uncomfortable was 1000 00:56:51,644 --> 00:56:53,129 the press coverage. 1001 00:56:53,154 --> 00:56:55,179 He's then talking about his personal life. 1002 00:56:55,204 --> 00:56:58,028 He's talking about his grandparents and that is going to be written 1003 00:56:58,053 --> 00:56:59,098 all around the world. 1004 00:56:59,123 --> 00:57:03,699 It's going to be turned into more clickbait. 1005 00:57:03,724 --> 00:57:06,309 By choosing to do these interviews, it frankly just encourages more 1006 00:57:06,334 --> 00:57:10,309 of that stuff to be written. 1007 00:57:10,334 --> 00:57:12,898 Harry, in a bombshell move, also spoke openly about his move 1008 00:57:12,923 --> 00:57:15,819 away from the Royal Family. 1009 00:57:15,844 --> 00:57:22,459 It was stepping back rather than stepping down. 1010 00:57:22,594 --> 00:57:24,669 It was a really difficult environment, as I think 1011 00:57:24,694 --> 00:57:25,898 a lot of people saw. 1012 00:57:25,923 --> 00:57:28,978 We all know what the British press can be like, and it was 1013 00:57:29,003 --> 00:57:30,059 destroying my mental health. 1014 00:57:30,084 --> 00:57:32,699 The actions of Harry and Meghan in the United States goes 1015 00:57:32,724 --> 00:57:36,539 against the very grain of the Royal rule book. 1016 00:57:36,564 --> 00:57:39,699 At the very core of this brand building exercise 1017 00:57:39,724 --> 00:57:41,978 is not Harry, it's Meghan. 1018 00:57:42,003 --> 00:57:48,059 There is a delicious irony where they live in Los Angeles, 1019 00:57:48,204 --> 00:57:50,949 the heart of the paparazzi, at the same time in London, 1020 00:57:50,974 --> 00:57:54,018 they're fighting these legal arguments and that must not be lost 1021 00:57:54,043 --> 00:58:00,768 on the Royal Family itself, it's almost cringe-worthy to an extent. 1022 00:58:00,923 --> 00:58:03,848 As they embark on this brand building exercise we're only 1023 00:58:03,873 --> 00:58:05,569 going to see earthquake after earthquake shattering 1024 00:58:05,594 --> 00:58:08,848 Buckingham Palace. 1025 00:58:08,873 --> 00:58:11,459 F 1026 00:58:11,484 --> 00:58:14,768 £ 1027 00:58:14,793 --> 00:58:17,098 é 1028 00:58:17,123 --> 00:58:20,179 F 1029 00:58:20,204 --> 00:58:23,129 I think that there were people who truly wish them well, 1030 00:58:23,154 --> 00:58:26,768 but of course there were also people who wanted to poke holes 1031 00:58:26,793 --> 00:58:34,793 into their love affair and bring out as much dirt as they could. 1032 00:58:38,873 --> 00:58:42,179 I think they found a way to say, you know what, enough is enough. 1033 00:58:42,204 --> 00:58:43,898 We refuse to be pillars of abuse. 1034 00:58:43,923 --> 00:58:46,018 Then on the 14th February 2021 they made another 1035 00:58:46,043 --> 00:58:47,129 surprise announcement. 1036 00:58:47,154 --> 00:58:50,898 F 1037 00:58:50,923 --> 00:58:53,619 F 1038 00:58:53,644 --> 00:58:56,699 And in the days that followed, a war of words erupted between Harry 1039 00:58:56,724 --> 00:58:59,339 and Meghan and the monarchy. 1040 00:58:59,364 --> 00:59:02,539 Taking part in such a high profile interview with somebody 1041 00:59:02,564 --> 00:59:04,419 like Oprah Winfrey won't improve relations with the 1042 00:59:04,444 --> 00:59:07,768 Royal Family at all. 1043 00:59:07,793 --> 00:59:13,739 The Queen had no choice, but to strip them of the titles. 1044 00:59:22,354 --> 00:59:24,649 On Valentine's Day 2021, Meghan and Harry announced their second 1045 00:59:24,674 --> 00:59:27,519 pregnancy to the world. 1046 00:59:27,544 --> 00:59:31,878 It was clear yet again they were doing things their way. 1047 00:59:31,903 --> 00:59:35,369 There's a new baby on the way, which is amazing news, 1048 00:59:35,394 --> 00:59:37,969 but I think that is going to, in some respects, draw 1049 00:59:37,994 --> 00:59:41,209 them further apart. 1050 00:59:41,234 --> 00:59:43,849 They're going to spend most of their time in the US 1051 00:59:43,874 --> 00:59:45,769 and they want to make their life there. 1052 00:59:45,794 --> 00:59:49,048 F 1053 00:59:49,073 --> 00:59:53,519 F 1054 00:59:53,544 --> 00:59:56,008 é 1055 00:59:56,033 --> 00:59:59,619 £ 1056 00:59:59,644 --> 01:00:01,489 Increasingly one wonders how much influence the Royal 1057 01:00:01,514 --> 01:00:03,928 Family will even have. 1058 01:00:03,953 --> 01:00:11,953 The Royals are going to become distant relatives I suspect. 1059 01:00:14,464 --> 01:00:17,689 A year on from the bombshell announcement that Harry and Meghan 1060 01:00:17,714 --> 01:00:19,619 would be moving away from the Royal Family, 1061 01:00:19,644 --> 01:00:24,969 they made it clear they would be staying in California. 1062 01:00:25,104 --> 01:00:27,008 Harry and Meghan's exit from the Royal Family 1063 01:00:27,033 --> 01:00:31,899 ended today as it began with considerable acrimony. 1064 01:00:31,924 --> 01:00:34,079 Buckingham Palace confirmed that the couple would be stripped 1065 01:00:34,104 --> 01:00:36,969 of all their honorary titles and royal patronages, 1066 01:00:36,994 --> 01:00:41,159 including Harry's military titles and Meghan's role as Vice President 1067 01:00:41,184 --> 01:00:44,128 of the Queen's Commonwealth Trust. 1068 01:00:44,153 --> 01:00:48,689 I think Harry wanted it both ways. 1069 01:00:48,714 --> 01:00:53,258 He wanted to be able to live a life free of responsibility, 1070 01:00:53,283 --> 01:00:58,689 but still make change, and the reality was The Sussexes 1071 01:00:58,823 --> 01:01:02,849 in another country, are isolated from what everything 1072 01:01:02,874 --> 01:01:10,769 the Royal Family means and that puts the Royal Family at peril. 1073 01:01:10,903 --> 01:01:14,489 So the Queen had no choice, but to strip them of the titles. 1074 01:01:14,514 --> 01:01:17,689 Within minutes of the Buckingham Palace announcement, 1075 01:01:17,714 --> 01:01:19,798 Harry and Meghan responded, stating that they "remain committed 1076 01:01:19,823 --> 01:01:22,928 to their duty and service." 1077 01:01:22,953 --> 01:01:25,258 Their quick fire response was reportedly deemed disrespectful 1078 01:01:25,283 --> 01:01:28,928 by Palace officials. 1079 01:01:28,953 --> 01:01:32,439 I think Charles and William, and certainly the courtiers 1080 01:01:32,464 --> 01:01:34,569 at the Palace, felt that Meghan and Harry's pushback 1081 01:01:34,594 --> 01:01:37,439 was disrespectful. 1082 01:01:37,464 --> 01:01:38,489 It was petulant. 1083 01:01:38,514 --> 01:01:39,569 It was resentful. 1084 01:01:39,594 --> 01:01:42,519 Um, and as one said to me, you don't disrespect your granny. 1085 01:01:42,544 --> 01:01:46,719 Just days earlier, Harry and Meghan had shot an intimate tell-all 1086 01:01:46,744 --> 01:01:49,849 television interview with their friend and broadcast 1087 01:01:49,874 --> 01:01:52,329 legend, Oprah Winfrey. 1088 01:01:52,354 --> 01:01:54,489 Then in the days building up to the broadcast, 1089 01:01:54,514 --> 01:01:58,289 newspapers claimed that Meghan now faced a serious bullying 1090 01:01:58,314 --> 01:02:02,409 complaint against her whilst at Kensington Palace. 1091 01:02:02,434 --> 01:02:05,359 Her spokesperson said that she was saddened by the reports. 1092 01:02:05,384 --> 01:02:10,409 Relations appeared to have finally hit rock bottom. 1093 01:02:10,544 --> 01:02:13,079 The $6 million question, though, is just how far 1094 01:02:13,104 --> 01:02:15,969 Meghan is going to go, the full truth as she sees it 1095 01:02:15,994 --> 01:02:18,609 would be highly explosive but it would certainly burn all bridges 1096 01:02:18,634 --> 01:02:23,409 with the institution she has left behind. 1097 01:02:23,434 --> 01:02:26,289 Whilst the news reportedly came as a surprise to the Royal Family, 1098 01:02:26,314 --> 01:02:27,928 excerpts from the ground-breaking interview were later 1099 01:02:27,953 --> 01:02:30,798 teased in the media. 1100 01:02:30,823 --> 01:02:33,649 I'm just really relieved and happy to be here, talking to you, 1101 01:02:33,674 --> 01:02:40,359 with my wife by my side. 1102 01:02:40,514 --> 01:02:43,048 Because it has been unbelievably tough for the two of us, 1103 01:02:43,073 --> 01:02:44,769 but at least we had each other. 1104 01:02:44,794 --> 01:02:47,649 Questions will be asked that will be uncomfortable for the Royal Family. 1105 01:02:47,674 --> 01:02:50,248 Not for Meghan - she's open, she's honest and she doesn't 1106 01:02:50,273 --> 01:02:56,689 care about that impact. 1107 01:02:56,823 --> 01:02:59,209 The interview's scheduled broadcast date has caused another row - 1108 01:02:59,234 --> 01:03:01,849 with 99-year-old Prince Philip ill in hospital, the timing has been 1109 01:03:01,874 --> 01:03:03,489 criticised by the media, including Piers Morgan 1110 01:03:03,514 --> 01:03:04,569 on Good Morning Britain. 1111 01:03:04,594 --> 01:03:06,928 And, I'm sorry, I think we're entitled to say this 1112 01:03:06,953 --> 01:03:08,209 is incredibly distasteful. 1113 01:03:08,234 --> 01:03:10,609 To be doing this kind of confessional in which they're 1114 01:03:10,634 --> 01:03:13,248 bound to be critical of the Royal Family and the monarchy 1115 01:03:13,273 --> 01:03:16,159 at a time when his grandfather is in hospital and clearly quite 1116 01:03:16,184 --> 01:03:19,769 seriously ill, otherwise he wouldn't be in there for two weeks. 1117 01:03:19,794 --> 01:03:22,048 It does smack of hypocrisy. 1118 01:03:22,073 --> 01:03:24,329 Taking part in an interview, such a high profile interview 1119 01:03:24,354 --> 01:03:31,798 won't improve relations with the Royal Family at all. 1120 01:03:31,953 --> 01:03:34,289 In the days leading up to the broadcast, new revelations 1121 01:03:34,314 --> 01:03:36,159 from the interview exposed the increasingly bitter war 1122 01:03:36,184 --> 01:03:41,159 between Meghan and the monarchy. 1123 01:03:41,924 --> 01:03:46,539 How do you feel about the palace hearing you speak your truth today? 1124 01:03:46,564 --> 01:03:49,409 F 1125 01:03:49,434 --> 01:03:52,289 é 1126 01:03:52,314 --> 01:04:00,209 F 1127 01:04:00,354 --> 01:04:03,209 It's almost like Prince Harry is driving a wedge with a sledge 1128 01:04:03,234 --> 01:04:07,128 hammer through his relationship with Prince William. 1129 01:04:07,153 --> 01:04:11,248 William, as a staunch advocate of everything that the Royal Family 1130 01:04:11,273 --> 01:04:16,079 means, is obviously going to be dragged into this. 1131 01:04:16,104 --> 01:04:17,998 I expect this interview not only to reverberate 1132 01:04:18,023 --> 01:04:20,128 through the United States and England, but to rock 1133 01:04:20,153 --> 01:04:28,153 the establishment at its very core. 1134 01:04:30,434 --> 01:04:32,998 Could Harry and Meghan's fallout with the monarchy leave its mark 1135 01:04:33,023 --> 01:04:35,639 for decades to come? 1136 01:04:35,664 --> 01:04:36,928 It's like a war. 1137 01:04:36,953 --> 01:04:39,289 I don't believe Harry would be outside the Royal Family 1138 01:04:39,314 --> 01:04:43,998 except for marrying Meghan Markle. 1139 01:04:44,023 --> 01:04:51,128 They've lost a critical component of what the Royal Family 1140 01:04:51,273 --> 01:04:53,609 represented, the British people had an affinity with Harry, now 1141 01:04:53,634 --> 01:04:55,969 to divorce himself from that family really is an abandonment 1142 01:04:55,994 --> 01:05:02,489 of what he was born into. 1143 01:05:02,634 --> 01:05:05,439 What began as a breath of fresh air cascaded into a series 1144 01:05:05,464 --> 01:05:07,329 of family conflicts, controversies and trouble for Harry 1145 01:05:07,354 --> 01:05:13,209 and Meghan and the monarchy. 1146 01:05:13,354 --> 01:05:19,998 These are family stories that are complicated, 1147 01:05:20,153 --> 01:05:23,329 run deep, if people feel very hurt and betrayed and they feel 1148 01:05:23,354 --> 01:05:24,969 that this relationship is broken beyond repair, 1149 01:05:24,994 --> 01:05:27,849 then that might be the reality. 1150 01:05:27,874 --> 01:05:30,209 Harry and William, you know, they've reached a bad place 1151 01:05:30,234 --> 01:05:31,289 in their relationship. 1152 01:05:31,314 --> 01:05:33,439 And one can only hope that they build bridges 1153 01:05:33,464 --> 01:05:38,248 going forward because the only losers in all this will be them. 1154 01:05:38,273 --> 01:05:40,889 F 1155 01:05:40,914 --> 01:05:44,719 F 1156 01:05:44,744 --> 01:05:48,439 é 1157 01:05:48,464 --> 01:05:51,719 F 1158 01:05:51,744 --> 01:05:55,048 I think that in the initial stage, there was a fairy tale about this, 1159 01:05:55,073 --> 01:06:02,529 but that fairy tale was quickly shattered. 1160 01:06:02,664 --> 01:06:06,689 I think it's a real lost opportunity for the Royal Family 1161 01:06:06,714 --> 01:06:09,079 that they couldn't make it work, that...that...that Meghan couldn't 1162 01:06:09,104 --> 01:06:12,489 become an integral part of the future of the monarchy 1163 01:06:12,514 --> 01:06:15,329 the Monarchy could be seen to be so much more inclusive, modern, 1164 01:06:15,354 --> 01:06:21,889 moving with the times... 1165 01:06:21,994 --> 01:06:22,998 Evolving. 1166 01:06:23,023 --> 01:06:25,048 I think it is, uh, extremely sad. 1167 01:06:25,073 --> 01:06:27,439 É 1168 01:06:27,464 --> 01:06:30,079 é 1169 01:06:30,104 --> 01:06:34,439 F 1170 01:06:34,464 --> 01:06:40,279 é 1171 01:06:40,434 --> 01:06:43,769 F 1172 01:06:43,794 --> 01:06:45,689 F 1173 01:06:45,714 --> 01:06:48,769 Meghan's Hollywood background Meghan's expectations 1174 01:06:48,794 --> 01:06:53,798 as a celebrity, would have hit the Royal Family like a hurricane. 1175 01:06:53,914 --> 01:06:55,359 And now look where we are. 1176 01:06:55,384 --> 01:07:02,439 It had the potential to be so much better than in fact 1177 01:07:02,554 --> 01:07:10,554 it turned out to be. 98274

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