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I want to be friends.
You will not let me get in.
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You have to,
it's way beyond that now.
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What you've done to Soon-Yi.
What you've done to Dylan.
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What you've done to Dylan,
Dylan's a baby.
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How could you do that to her?
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I don't know anything of the kind.
I know what Dylan tells me.
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You've told me nothing but lies.
Dylan tells the truth and consistently.
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- But you know that I didn't...
- I don't know that, Woody.
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I've always been worried
about you and Dylan.
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And I didn't know the doctor
had to report this to the authorities.
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I didn't know that.
I went to be sure she was all right.
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And she's not all right, Woody.
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She walks around the house
holding her vagina.
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She sleeps with me.
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She's scared of you.
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And you hurt her.
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Now I feel pretty guilty myself
that I wasn't there to protect her.
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She said,
"Mommy, you didn't help me."
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She said,
"Daddy shouldn't have done that.
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He shouldn't have hurt me
like that.
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If you heard her
you would weep inside,
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and you would
just want to be dead.
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Because I don't know
how you can live with what you did.
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This is a story of two
of the biggest stars in the world.
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The father is Woody Allen,
writer, director, actor.
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The mother is Mia Farrow,
his frequent co-star,
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and the mother of his three children,
two of them adopted.
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Woody and Mia
have been together for 12 years
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but never married
and kept separate residences.
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She reportedly has a video
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of their adopted daughter Dylan
explaining how Allen molested her.
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Allen denies child abuse,
but freely admits
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he's in love with another of Farrow's
daughters, 21-year-old Soon-Yi.
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Allen said the newest allegations
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are the bizarre concoctions
of a woman scorned.
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Miss Farrow's only concern
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have been exclusively
the protection of her children.
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ALLEN V. FARROW
Episode 3
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The private lives of Woody Allen
and the Farrow family
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would become very public
in August of 1992.
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A series of investigations
and lawsuits followed,
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which generated tens of thousands
of court and police documents,
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most of which were never made public
or obtained by the press.
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One cache of more
than 60 boxes of documentation
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was hidden away
in an attorney storage room,
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untouched since the '90s.
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Over the course
of our three-year investigation
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we gained access to those boxes,
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along with police files of the case,
additional evidence, affidavits,
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sworn testimony,
and private audio and video recordings.
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After the incident in the attic,
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the next day
I took Dylan to the doctor.
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She didn't really know the pediatrician
up here in Connecticut that well
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and she sure
didn't want to talk about it.
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He didn't want to pressure her,
and he said:
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"No problem. Why don't you
come back tomorrow?"
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When we got in the car
and I said:
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"Did you want to tell him
what you told me? Do you feel...?"
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And she said, "I don't like
to talk about my privates."
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And I'm, like, "I get that.
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But it would be helpful
if you could tell him,
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because then we would have somebody
who could make sure you are okay."
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So then the next day
we went back
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and she did tell the doctor
what happened.
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And then we went home.
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And we were all outside
and I got a call from the doctor.
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And he said, "I just wanted to tell
you that I've told the police."
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I remember when I took the phone call
I made the kids get out of the water.
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So they were making sand castles
and covering their feet with sand.
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And I saw a little robin
was hopping on the grass.
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And I'm holding the phone
thinking it all looked so normal,
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but nothing will ever
be normal ever again.
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Dylan's pediatrician had submitted
a report of suspected sexual abuse,
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and a series of legal actions
were initiated in two states.
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In New York,
the Farrows' legal residence,
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the City Child Welfare Administration
opened an investigation.
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While in Connecticut,
where the crime had occurred,
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the state police
also opened a criminal investigation,
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which was overseen
by state prosecutor, Frank Maco.
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I received a call
from my office with a complaint,
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alleged sexual abuse
on one Woody Allen.
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I met with the members
of the Connecticut State Police.
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I said, I want to make sure
that we're not talking
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about some type of a Hollywood
relationship that had gone bad.
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Next thing you know, crime squad trucks
rolling down our driveway.
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They went to do
whatever they do in the attic,
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collecting hair
and stuff like that.
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What I remember...
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is that after the attic
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things really started changing
very rapidly.
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I said this thing,
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and it started this nightmare
of lawyers and the phone ringing,
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and everything changed.
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Woody's not about
to change his ways.
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He's where he is every Monday night,
Michael's Pub here in Manhattan.
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Steve Powers is there right now.
Steve?
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It was as if Woody Allen was trying
to play it cool by playing his clarinet,
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as he does every Monday night
over here at Michael's Pub.
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He went up on the bandstand
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and joined the band
in some playing with a full house.
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But earlier there was an indication
everything wasn't just fine,
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when Woody left his apartment
at 74th Street and 5th venue.
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He had no comment.
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Woody, could you give us
a comment, Woody?
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Anything about
the Bridgewater charges, Woody?
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My office
and the Connecticut State Police,
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we wanted to do
our investigation
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quietly and as effectively as possible,
professionally as possible.
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Next thing I know
at the Plaza Hotel
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Mr. Allen calls a news conference
and announces he's subject
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of a Connecticut State Police
investigation into abuse.
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Thank you for coming.
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Over the years you know that I've been
reluctant to speak with the press
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and have assiduously
avoided publicity.
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But because of all the rumors,
and innuendos,
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and cruel untruths circulating
over the past week
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I feel that I have
to make a statement.
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This is an unconscionable
and gruesomely damaging manipulation
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of innocent children for vindictive
and self-serving purposes.
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In the end the one thing
I have been guilty of
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is falling in love
with Ms. Farrow's adult daughter...
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Woody gave a press conference
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where he talked about being
wildly in love with Soon-Yi,
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and our jaws all dropped.
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He said to Mia, "I don't love Soon-Yi",
I heard him say this:
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"This was just a silly little fling.
I'm not in love with her."
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There's a calculated reason
why love enters the picture.
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He's trying to distract.
This is a woman scorned.
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This is an unhinged woman.
That's Woody's narrative.
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He turned it all back,
turned it upside down and around,
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and focused
on his relationship with Soon-Yi.
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And the media
ran with that story.
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One day after Woody Allen
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acknowledge a love affair
with de 21 year-old adopted daughter
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of his one time companion
and leading lady Mia Farrow,
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the usually very private filmmaker
went public.
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Allen says he feels
no great moral dilemma
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over his admitted relationship
with Soon-Yi Previn Farrow.
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In a written statement Allen says,
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"Regarding my love for Soon-Yi,
it's real and happily all true.
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He added that Mia Farrow
was so irate
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when Allen fell in love with Farrow's
adopted college-age daughter, Soon-Yi,
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that Farrow
concocted the abuse charges.
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I would love to see Dylan and Satchel,
and you know that.
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So you're not willing
to try to go back
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and try to undo some of this,
and see if we can't...
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- What could be undone?
- Take it out of the public arena.
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- Yes.
- Let's get it private.
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I'd love to take it out
of the public arena.
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But when you say
"take it out of the public arena..."
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But let's stop insulting
each other through other people.
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I mean, you know, in fact we...
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It's not out of the public arena
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when you're doing an interview
with Newsweek.
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I was told you were doing
an interview with Newsweek.
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I'm not doing
an interview with Newsweek, no.
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In Time and Newsweek
Allen struck the latest blow
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in this war waged with sound bites
and spicy quotes.
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Over the past week
Allen's trial-by-tabloid
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has captivated
the national psyche.
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I was a general assignment reporter
back in the '90s
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when we heard that Mia Farrow's
adopted daughter
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might be having an affair
with Woody Allen.
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And the way he spun it
was just perfect.
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Don't forget,
Woody Allen at that time
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had some really high-powered people
in his court.
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Elkan Abramowitz, his attorney,
big, big attorney,
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and he had a very powerful
PR machine behind him.
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They were doing a great job
painting Mia Farrow
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as a scorned woman
who would say anything.
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But we had to follow the leads,
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and sometimes it took us to a place
that Woody Allen was not happy.
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Here at the Episcopal School
on Manhattan's East Side
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sources tell us that Woody Allen
was so obsessed with Dylan,
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who was then three years-old,
that parents and teachers
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began talking about how Allen
would sit in the doorway
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positioned to watch little Dylan
in the classroom.
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We were one of a few journalists
who gave the other side.
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Woody immediately
got onto the cover of Time,
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the cover of Newsweek,
the cover of People,
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and Mia wasn't really speaking.
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I thought to myself, there has
to be another side to the story.
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She was not giving interviews
so I had to find people close to her.
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I spoke to Andre Previn,
her previous husband.
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I spoke to the tutors.
I spoke to the babysitters.
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One of the things
that was interesting to me
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was that Mia didn't want
these allegations to be true
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because this was completely
unraveling her entire life.
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I was told by several different
people that she said,
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"You know, Dylan,
we all make up stories.
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If this didn't happen you really
need to tell me it didn't happen,
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or maybe you think
it happened and..."
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And she says,
"No, it happened.
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And if he says
it didn't happen he's lying."
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So this little girl would never
back down from the story.
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I also found out that Woody
refused to submit
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to the state police's
lie detector test.
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The Connecticut State Police
indicated that Woody Allen
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had taken a polygraph
by a private polygrapher.
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I said, "I'm not interested. I want
a state police polygrapher to take it,"
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and he refused.
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So I did not get
what I had requested,
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which was a polygraph
by the Connecticut State Police.
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If I have a shred of belief left
in you, then help me now.
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Tell me where you were
for those 20 minutes.
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- That will all be...
- But why can't you just tell me now?
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It will all be... all the details
when the time comes.
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No, now. Why can't you
just tell me, help me now?
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... when the time comes,
and the truth will come out.
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Woody, tell me where you were!
People scoured the house.
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Every single room was searched.
You could help me a lot.
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... all about that eventually...
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- Why don't you just tell me?
- ... all about it.
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Be logical about this.
I'm 57.
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Isn't it illogical that I'm going
to pick this moment in my life
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to become a child molester?
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It's just incredible.
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if I wanted to be a child molester
I had many opportunities in the past.
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Why would Allen's 7-year-old daughter
tell a Connecticut doctor otherwise?
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Either she has been coached
methodically to...
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tell this story, because...
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- By Mia?
- By Mia, yeah.
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Overnight almost there
he is on everything,
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on the cover of every magazine,
on every kind of show,
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saying that I had coached Dylan
and all these things.
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She's been using her friends
on both coasts
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to say terrible things about me
and to lie about...
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I didn't feel that it was seemly
to get into...
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a public fight with him.
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In a statement
Farrow told NBC News
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she wouldn't be interviewed
about Woody Allen for this story
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and asked that her friends
not talk to us about Allen either.
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I just had to keep my focus
on the kids
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and try to keep them safe,
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and try to keep whatever semblance
of normal that we could
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under the circumstances.
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There were helicopters
flying low to take pictures,
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and the kids
couldn't go anywhere.
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And it was terrifying.
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If we left the house they would
follow us wherever we were going.
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And it was scary.
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At the Farrow home in Connecticut,
and elsewhere,
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family members
were rallying to Mama Mia's side.
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She's my mother
and she's the best mother there is.
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Any statement saying that she is unfit
to be a mother is completely ridiculous.
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She is a marvelous mother,
a fine woman,
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and she's just got a moral foundation
that's just unbreakable
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and we're all rocks
and we're all staying together
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we're gonna fight this thing
till we win.
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We didn't need help turning
against him. He did it to himself.
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And his accusation that my mother
is an unfit mother is absurd.
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Anybody who knows
my mother knows that.
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Woody appeared to have
what were unlimited resources
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and hired private investigators.
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And people were following us around,
and going through garbage,
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and looking for anything
that there's a weakness here
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that I can exploit to say,
"Hold on a minute,
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she's not the great parent she's
asserting herself to be. Look at this."
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I definitely felt
like I was followed a few times,
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when I was coming from Mia's
apartment back to my apartment,
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or if I was taking the children out.
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One night I was coming home
from some friends,
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and I was being followed.
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So I didn't even go home.
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I took some twists and turns
and still this person was following me.
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I went all the way into the neighboring
town and it became really scary.
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Woody Allen's team hired
multiple private investigators
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to uncover compromising information
about Mia's family,
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as well as the
Connecticut State detectives
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who had been assigned
to the case.
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I met with the members
of the Connecticut State Police,
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instructed them
to continue their investigation.
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I said,
"I want this child evaluated."
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I wanted some type of opinion
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as to whether or not my bringing
her into the criminal justice system,
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putting her on the stand,
in any way would traumatize her.
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And want to know are there any
impediments to the child's ability
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to take the stand
and testify in court.
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So I suggested the Yale Child Sexual
Abuse Clinic to do the examination.
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They were going to assist me
insofar as determining
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whether or not there
were any impediments
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as to the child's ability
to perceive, recall, and relate.
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The Yale New Haven team
was led by Dr. John Leventhal,
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who at that time was the director
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of the Yale New Haven Hospital
Child Sexual Abuse Clinic.
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The team also included
two social workers,
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Julia Hamilton
and Jennifer Sawyer.
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Records show that Sawyer and Hamilton
interviewed Dylan nine times
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over a three-month period.
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I would meet with some adults
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who would show me
an anatomically-correct doll
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and ask me
where daddy touched me.
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And I would repeat the story over,
and over, and over again.
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It was grueling and it was intense,
and I hated it.
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Their examination
went on for seven months.
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And then I received a call
that the Yale Child Sexual Abuse Clinic
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made a decision, and I am given
the bottom-line conclusion
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that the child is unreliable,
untrustworthy,
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and/or that Mia Farrow
was a fabricator of this incident.
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The report stated there were
"inconsistencies" in Dylan's statements,
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and that she had "difficulty
distinguishing fantasy from reality."
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The report also stated
that Dylan's accusations were
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"likely reinforced and encouraged by her
mother who was enraged with Mr. Allen."
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Without notifying Frank Maco,
who had commissioned the report,
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Yale New Haven met
with Mia Farrow and Woody Allen
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and informed them
of the results of the report.
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Next thing I know
the Yale New Haven team
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presented the findings to Allen,
the suspect of the investigation,
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and allowed him to announce the results
publicly on the steps of the hospital.
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They've come to a decision
that I can say is an accurate one.
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Certainly I never, ever
abused my daughter.
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There was no sexual abuse
that ever took place,
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and that the... it was either...
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an imagined thing
or a concocted thing.
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Why do you call the accused
and have a press conference
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on the steps of the hospital
to "clear him"
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when you don't give it
to the state attorney to do that?
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He was the one who commissioned it.
It wasn't their purview to do that.
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Today's report,
if it is as Allen describes it,
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seems to remove any possibility
he'd face criminal charges.
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The report also says that the child
may have made this story up.
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But the experts also allow
for the possibility in their report
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that Farrow may have coached
the child to tell this story.
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In the report the experts recommend
that Farrow receive therapy now
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for what it characterized
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as her "extremely disturbed"
relationship with 7-year-old Dylan.
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I had to come forward
and say, "Wait a minute.
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I find nothing
indicating that Mia Farrow
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is in any way fabricating, controlling,
or manipulating this child.
330
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There's nothing to show us that.
331
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I just want to say that I will always
stand by my children.
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Did you make it up?
Did you make up that story?
333
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I was contacted
by Ms. Farrow's attorney
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shortly after the Yale report
came out.
335
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Ms. Farrow's lawyer
was concerned about the report,
336
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and she asked me if I could read it
and tell her what I thought.
337
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I read the report
and I was horrified.
338
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And I testified in court
about the report.
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They interviewed this child
nine times.
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Even in the early '90s nobody
interviewed a child of any age
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amidst an allegation
of sexual abuse nine times.
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You don't interview a child
about the same allegation
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over and over and over again.
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You interview the child the least
amount of times as possible,
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so as not to re-traumatize the child.
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The more I was asked the same
question over and over,
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the more I started to wonder
what do they want from me,
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and feeling like the more
I said the same thing, that...
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it was the wrong answer,
that I was being treated like I was...
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lying.
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If I'd change a word here
they say I'm being inconsistent.
352
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If I use exactly the same words that
I used every other time I was coached.
353
00:25:19,010 --> 00:25:24,410
There were absolute consistencies
in which this child said
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the same thing to the same interviewers
over the 9 times she was interviewed.
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She's very consistent
about who touched her,
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where in the house,
what part of her body,
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what he touched her with.
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So she's very consistent with the core
elements of her disclosure.
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She hasn't really moved away
from that in this report,
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in all of these interviews.
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Every little idiosyncrasy that I
could've had as a seven-year-old girl
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was used against me.
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The fact that I used
childish descriptions...
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I described a couple of mannequin
heads as "dead heads."
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The "dead heads"
were later identified
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as Mia Farrow's mannequins
for her wigs,
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probably in her profession.
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00:26:20,660 --> 00:26:24,180
I did not find that to be
an unreasonable description
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by a seven-year-old who's trying
to identify what was in mom's attic.
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00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:33,520
Part of their conclusion
of why Dylan fantasized
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was because she referred
to the "magic hour."
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00:26:38,550 --> 00:26:41,650
Anybody who's grown up
around filmmakers
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knows that certain hours of the day
do have the magic light.
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I was the kid of two people
in the film industry.
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And I was on set a lot.
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So how I was I supposed to know that
that constitutes magical thinking?
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00:27:03,070 --> 00:27:05,760
That's a pretty big thing
to say a 7-year-old child
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is delusional,
isn't thinking right,
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doesn't know the difference
between fantasy and reality.
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00:27:13,420 --> 00:27:17,350
This report failed to reflect
anything even close
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00:27:17,380 --> 00:27:22,030
to the child having
a psychotic disorder, not even close.
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00:27:25,100 --> 00:27:27,860
Jennifer Sawyer
and Dr. Julia Hamilton,
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the two social workers
on Leventhal's team,
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interviewed Dylan.
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00:27:31,940 --> 00:27:34,370
But according
to Dr. Leventhal's deposition,
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Yale New Haven's practice
was to destroy all notes
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after the completion
of an evaluation.
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00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:43,670
So ultimately
no contemporaneous record exists
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of what they thought or observed
when they first interviewed Dylan.
390
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All of the notes were destroyed.
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00:27:51,750 --> 00:27:55,390
- Are notes typically destroyed?
- No. Notes are never destroyed.
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Notes are never destroyed
during a forensic evaluation,
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never, ever, ever destroyed.
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00:28:04,300 --> 00:28:07,610
Notes are evidence,
and we would turn over any drawings,
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00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,370
any notes we took in an interview,
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anything that was written down
in an interview
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would be handed over
to law enforcement.
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00:28:16,110 --> 00:28:19,040
If I elected
to go to trial on this case
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00:28:19,110 --> 00:28:21,460
my first question
to each of those evaluators,
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"Let me see your contemporaneous
notes in your interview of this child."
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Destroyed, all of them.
402
00:28:30,870 --> 00:28:35,180
Bottom line, this was basically
a runaway evaluation.
403
00:28:36,830 --> 00:28:40,770
Yale New Haven did not have the
authority to reach their conclusion.
404
00:28:41,380 --> 00:28:44,230
They're talking
about whether a crime occurred.
405
00:28:44,260 --> 00:28:48,990
And the people who decide whether
a child is a victim of a crime
406
00:28:49,260 --> 00:28:50,620
is a judge or a jury.
407
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:53,660
I make the decision, not Yale.
408
00:28:53,770 --> 00:28:57,410
I haven't relinquished
my constitutional responsibility
409
00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:59,740
to decide whether
or not we're going to prosecute.
410
00:28:59,770 --> 00:29:05,170
It is up to a trained prosecutor
to determine whether or not
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00:29:05,700 --> 00:29:10,300
that child has been
sexually abused, period.
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00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:16,720
No one should hold up that report
and say Woody Allen was exonerated.
413
00:29:22,300 --> 00:29:24,610
While the investigation continued
in Connecticut,
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00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:28,360
the investigation in New York
by the Child Welfare Administration
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00:29:28,390 --> 00:29:29,740
was also underway.
416
00:29:30,260 --> 00:29:33,570
The supervisor assigned
to the case was Sheryl Harden.
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00:29:35,230 --> 00:29:38,000
In my sex abuse unit
I was a senior supervisor,
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00:29:38,900 --> 00:29:42,380
and we investigated child abuse
throughout the City of New York.
419
00:29:42,860 --> 00:29:46,710
So after I read the allegations
I said I'll assign this to Paul.
420
00:29:48,870 --> 00:29:51,590
Paul Williams was one
of the top investigators that I had.
421
00:29:52,620 --> 00:29:55,600
He was very thorough;
he was objective.
422
00:29:56,540 --> 00:30:00,390
Paul Williams had roughly handled
about 800 cases at the time,
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00:30:00,750 --> 00:30:03,560
and just the year before in 1991
424
00:30:04,510 --> 00:30:08,690
the City of New York awarded him
"Caseworker of the Year".
425
00:30:09,050 --> 00:30:10,480
It was the first time
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00:30:10,510 --> 00:30:14,660
that they had ever awarded
such an award to a caseworker.
427
00:30:15,770 --> 00:30:19,290
Paul interviewed Dylan and found her
to be quite credible.
428
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:25,210
At her age she should not know anything
about inserting a finger into the vagina.
429
00:30:25,740 --> 00:30:29,010
She should not know anything
about inserting a finger into the anus.
430
00:30:29,700 --> 00:30:33,380
Those are not things that should be
that easy for her to discuss
431
00:30:34,790 --> 00:30:37,140
unless there's something occurring.
432
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:41,770
Among the records we obtained
433
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:45,900
were a complete set of Paul Williams'
contemporaneous investigation notes.
434
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:50,070
Within the first two weeks
of being assigned the case
435
00:30:50,970 --> 00:30:53,570
Williams reported that there
was sufficient information
436
00:30:54,010 --> 00:30:58,160
to open a criminal investigation of
Woody Allen in the State of New York.
437
00:31:00,140 --> 00:31:02,460
He was later told
by superiors that,
438
00:31:02,900 --> 00:31:07,210
"In high-profile cases it is customary
for the 'big wigs' to take over
439
00:31:07,490 --> 00:31:09,250
and 'we'...do nothing."
440
00:31:11,530 --> 00:31:15,550
This was no ordinary case.
Filings were misfiled.
441
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,760
Misinformation
was put into the computer.
442
00:31:19,330 --> 00:31:24,890
There was clearly a strong political
climate to shut this thing down.
443
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:32,320
But Paul Williams, his agenda
was the best interest of the child.
444
00:31:34,100 --> 00:31:36,490
The City of New York
had another agenda,
445
00:31:37,100 --> 00:31:40,240
they needed to suffocate
and silence Paul Williams.
446
00:31:41,190 --> 00:31:43,830
And when he wouldn't shut up
they fired him.
447
00:31:45,770 --> 00:31:47,080
Under what pretext?
448
00:31:47,980 --> 00:31:52,170
That he was insubordinate.
He wasn't following instructions.
449
00:31:53,410 --> 00:31:55,130
I have no comment to say, okay?
450
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,760
Paul Williams may not want
to answer our questions,
451
00:31:57,870 --> 00:32:01,510
but his attorney assures us he is not
running away from an investigation
452
00:32:01,660 --> 00:32:04,800
into whether someone may have
intervened in New York City's handling
453
00:32:04,830 --> 00:32:07,520
of the child abuse allegations
against Woody Allen.
454
00:32:07,550 --> 00:32:09,560
I did my job
and I believe the kid, okay?
455
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:11,520
- You believe the kid?
- Yes.
456
00:32:11,550 --> 00:32:15,190
I have seen no evidence
to led me to believe otherwise.
457
00:32:15,300 --> 00:32:18,660
Confidential notes obtained from
the Human Resources Administration
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00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:21,450
indicate that the investigator
attributed the decision
459
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:25,500
not to pursue the case to the Mayor's
office, a charge they deny.
460
00:32:25,980 --> 00:32:28,670
This wasn't about one supervisor
461
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:33,300
or one department in this agency.
462
00:32:33,950 --> 00:32:40,890
This was a massive cover-up attempt,
and Paul was caught in the middle.
463
00:32:41,950 --> 00:32:43,810
Williams is suing the city,
464
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:48,060
charging that the Mayor's office hid
and suppressed information in the case.
465
00:32:48,420 --> 00:32:52,690
Williams contends that higher-ups
muzzled him, refusing to allow him
466
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,530
to report his findings
either to New York family court
467
00:32:55,630 --> 00:32:57,570
or to authorities in Connecticut,
468
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,280
where a parallel investigation
is still going on.
469
00:33:01,890 --> 00:33:05,910
Every procedure, every rule,
every regulation,
470
00:33:05,940 --> 00:33:08,160
every statute, every ordinance
471
00:33:08,190 --> 00:33:11,580
with respect to the investigation
of a child sexual abuse in this matter
472
00:33:11,610 --> 00:33:12,750
was violated.
473
00:33:12,900 --> 00:33:15,420
Women's rights activist
Gloria Steinem
474
00:33:15,530 --> 00:33:18,050
came to lend her support
to Paul Williams.
475
00:33:18,450 --> 00:33:21,220
Someone who knew the case
got in touch with me,
476
00:33:21,870 --> 00:33:24,140
just as a reporter,
as a journalist.
477
00:33:24,830 --> 00:33:26,970
So I talked to Paul.
478
00:33:27,420 --> 00:33:31,520
He seemed to me
a very admirable, smart,
479
00:33:32,710 --> 00:33:35,770
empathetic person
with no possible motive
480
00:33:36,470 --> 00:33:40,240
to do anything but do his best
to find out the truth.
481
00:33:41,930 --> 00:33:46,580
The determination that the judge made
was that he shouldn't have been fired,
482
00:33:47,060 --> 00:33:52,540
and he was awarded his job back, and
back pay for what was taken from him.
483
00:33:54,400 --> 00:34:00,380
Paul Williams felt vindicated
in the individual sense
484
00:34:00,910 --> 00:34:03,840
of what happened
in terms of getting his job back.
485
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:08,430
But he was never able to complete
the very job he was given.
486
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:11,690
Paul Williams still works
487
00:34:11,750 --> 00:34:14,520
for the New York City Administration
for Children's Service,
488
00:34:15,090 --> 00:34:18,530
and a spokesperson for the agency
declined our request for an interview.
489
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:22,660
But in looking
through his old case file
490
00:34:22,890 --> 00:34:24,990
we were surprised
to see a familiar name.
491
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,240
Williams had corresponded
directly with Jennifer Sawyer,
492
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:31,870
one of the social workers
who interviewed Dylan
493
00:34:32,060 --> 00:34:34,170
for the Yale New Haven
investigation in Connecticut.
494
00:34:36,240 --> 00:34:38,210
According to Williams' notes,
495
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,630
Sawyer had told him that she had
not only considered Dylan credible,
496
00:34:42,370 --> 00:34:44,640
but believed
that she had more to disclose.
497
00:34:46,540 --> 00:34:48,850
Sawyer's notes were later destroyed.
498
00:34:52,130 --> 00:34:53,890
In the end the result was
499
00:34:54,750 --> 00:34:59,900
that people with power
were able to get the case removed.
500
00:35:01,470 --> 00:35:06,120
It just seemed to me, from everything
I could glean as a reporter,
501
00:35:06,850 --> 00:35:09,330
to be a case of great injustice.
502
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,070
I don't sleep at night.
What I do is lay awake thinking
503
00:35:12,100 --> 00:35:16,460
about how horrendous this has been,
what they've done to her.
504
00:35:19,030 --> 00:35:23,590
The elite can do whatever they need
to do, whatever they want to do,
505
00:35:24,700 --> 00:35:27,260
and there's no consequences for it.
506
00:35:31,790 --> 00:35:35,940
Not long after that, I think maybe
a year later, I left the city agency.
507
00:35:40,720 --> 00:35:41,900
Why?
508
00:35:41,930 --> 00:35:44,570
Because I could not continue
to do what I did
509
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,820
to those low-income families,
those black families,
510
00:35:47,850 --> 00:35:53,000
and welfare families,
and have them treated differently
511
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:55,870
than if they would've been
a Woody Allen.
512
00:35:59,150 --> 00:36:02,880
He's got an army of lawyers,
and he's very wealthy.
513
00:36:04,110 --> 00:36:06,930
People bend over backwards
to do what he wants.
514
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,590
What I really thought
was that Woody was all-powerful,
515
00:36:13,620 --> 00:36:15,850
and that what he had told me
was true,
516
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:20,440
and that he could control
the Yale people, the doctor there,
517
00:36:20,550 --> 00:36:23,600
and he could control somehow
the New York people.
518
00:36:23,630 --> 00:36:25,400
Because he made his movies
in New York,
519
00:36:25,430 --> 00:36:28,530
that brought millions of dollars
to New York City.
520
00:36:29,850 --> 00:36:32,030
And what he had said to me
was that,
521
00:36:32,350 --> 00:36:35,750
"It doesn't matter what's true.
What matters is what's believed."
522
00:36:36,650 --> 00:36:43,380
And that he said it in such a cold way
that I thought could he be right?
523
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,680
And then Woody sued me
for custody,
524
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:52,300
saying that I had to hand over
my children
525
00:36:53,460 --> 00:36:55,270
because I was an unfit mother,
526
00:36:55,790 --> 00:36:58,270
turning my children against him
with horrible lies,
527
00:37:00,380 --> 00:37:03,110
that he was going to take Dylan,
Moses, and Satchel.
528
00:37:05,340 --> 00:37:07,860
But I also faced losing
all of my children,
529
00:37:08,100 --> 00:37:11,240
because if Woody were believed
that I was a horrible mother,
530
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:15,330
what would happen to all the other
adopted children in the family?
531
00:37:16,100 --> 00:37:18,960
I mean, there was a lot to lose.
532
00:37:20,900 --> 00:37:23,420
You brought charges against me
as an unfit mother.
533
00:37:24,150 --> 00:37:25,590
And I'm going
to make them stick.
534
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:32,760
Woody, don't do this.
Don't try this. Don't do this.
535
00:37:34,750 --> 00:37:36,100
I don't deserve it.
536
00:37:45,970 --> 00:37:48,860
If you look back from an historical
point of view
537
00:37:49,140 --> 00:37:51,450
there's clearly
a bias against women
538
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,830
who made allegations of rape
and sexual abuse against children.
539
00:37:56,180 --> 00:37:58,580
And the very term "hysteria"
as applied to women
540
00:37:59,860 --> 00:38:02,460
was easy to believe that women
who made allegations
541
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:04,460
were themselves mentally ill.
542
00:38:06,570 --> 00:38:09,970
I personally read every law review
article on this subject
543
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,800
from the 1880s to the 1970s.
544
00:38:13,620 --> 00:38:19,730
And the level of skepticism of women's
allegations of rape and sexual assault
545
00:38:19,790 --> 00:38:21,980
was almost monolithic.
546
00:38:22,500 --> 00:38:25,110
People don't want to believe
that this could be happening
547
00:38:25,300 --> 00:38:27,020
in the context of a family.
548
00:38:27,130 --> 00:38:31,320
It's so awful to think that a father
could be doing this to his child
549
00:38:31,350 --> 00:38:34,990
that we would rather assume,
we'll look for any explanation,
550
00:38:35,060 --> 00:38:36,620
other than that being the truth.
551
00:38:38,230 --> 00:38:42,870
Dr. Richard Gardner, known for his
innovative work on children of divorce,
552
00:38:42,940 --> 00:38:45,540
coined the term
"Parental Alienation Syndrome."
553
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:49,750
The idea is that one parent,
caught up in a custody battle,
554
00:38:49,860 --> 00:38:51,970
programs children
against the other parent,
555
00:38:52,410 --> 00:38:54,970
even fabricating
charges of sexual abuse.
556
00:38:55,290 --> 00:38:58,430
It's not a rare phenomenon;
it's quite common.
557
00:38:59,620 --> 00:39:03,140
He says it usually arises when
a mother, afraid of losing custody,
558
00:39:03,170 --> 00:39:05,520
uses false accusations
as a weapon.
559
00:39:06,170 --> 00:39:10,070
In about 90% of cases it's the mother
who is the programmer,
560
00:39:10,340 --> 00:39:13,530
and the father who is the victim
of the campaign.
561
00:39:14,510 --> 00:39:20,790
He said that when mothers report child
sexual abuse in custody litigation,
562
00:39:21,190 --> 00:39:24,530
most of the time they are doing
so not because it's true,
563
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,460
but because they want to alienate
the children from their father.
564
00:39:27,820 --> 00:39:30,330
Children are very suggestable,
and it's easier for them
565
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:34,470
to start off with suggested ideas
which develop into delusions.
566
00:39:34,740 --> 00:39:38,350
I believe that we are witnessing
the third-greatest wave of hysteria
567
00:39:38,500 --> 00:39:39,890
that we've ever seen
in this country.
568
00:39:40,620 --> 00:39:42,310
The problem with his syndrome
569
00:39:42,370 --> 00:39:46,230
is that it became a device
for not believing people,
570
00:39:46,670 --> 00:39:51,900
and an easy way to brand
the woman as mentally unstable
571
00:39:52,220 --> 00:39:54,400
and a deliberate fabricator.
572
00:39:56,050 --> 00:40:00,120
So here comes a book
that professes to give us charts,
573
00:40:00,230 --> 00:40:03,790
and diagrams, and numbers,
and easy explanations
574
00:40:03,850 --> 00:40:06,040
for how to sort out
whether this is true or false.
575
00:40:06,860 --> 00:40:11,540
It's all bogus, it's not real science,
but it looks like science.
576
00:40:15,370 --> 00:40:18,050
There were a number of studies
in the U.S. and around the world.
577
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:23,060
They found that reports of child sexual
abuse are rarely intentionally false.
578
00:40:26,130 --> 00:40:28,310
Studies found
that only 2 to 9 percent
579
00:40:28,340 --> 00:40:31,890
of child sexual abuse reports
made to child welfare agencies
580
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:35,610
are considered
to be intentionally false.
581
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:40,860
Gardner himself admits
that his theories
582
00:40:40,890 --> 00:40:43,660
aren't based on any scientific
or clinical research,
583
00:40:43,690 --> 00:40:45,120
just his experience.
584
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:48,830
His work on parental alienation
isn't reviewed by peers;
585
00:40:48,860 --> 00:40:50,500
he publishes it all himself.
586
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:53,170
He was clearly very troubled.
587
00:40:54,740 --> 00:40:57,340
He said crazy things,
and he put some of them in print.
588
00:40:57,910 --> 00:41:00,630
"... pedophilia has been considered
the norm
589
00:41:00,660 --> 00:41:04,680
by the vast majority of individuals
in the history of the world... "
590
00:41:04,710 --> 00:41:06,430
"It is because our society
591
00:41:06,500 --> 00:41:11,810
overreacts to it (pedophilia)
that children suffer".
592
00:41:12,050 --> 00:41:14,400
He said that the earlier children
become sexualized
593
00:41:14,510 --> 00:41:16,060
the better it is for the race,
594
00:41:16,090 --> 00:41:18,190
because they'll have more sex
and more offspring.
595
00:41:18,220 --> 00:41:20,740
So this is all-natural
and good for the species.
596
00:41:21,220 --> 00:41:23,320
After some of that
became exposed
597
00:41:23,430 --> 00:41:25,820
people started disparaging
Richard Gardner
598
00:41:25,850 --> 00:41:28,460
and the Parental
Alienation Syndrome,
599
00:41:29,190 --> 00:41:31,240
but then they just started
to keep on using it,
600
00:41:31,270 --> 00:41:32,960
even using his same criteria.
601
00:41:33,990 --> 00:41:40,130
So often fathers who are accused of
abuse respond by suing for custody.
602
00:41:41,870 --> 00:41:44,550
Very often the abuser files for custody
603
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:48,850
to tamp down any kind of criminal
investigation that's going on.
604
00:41:49,670 --> 00:41:54,060
The timing of when Woody Allen filed
for custody matches this strategy.
605
00:41:56,090 --> 00:41:59,400
Within a week of learning that he was
being investigated for child abuse,
606
00:42:00,510 --> 00:42:03,320
Woody Allen filed a lawsuit
against Mia Farrow
607
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:07,120
for sole custody of Dylan,
Satchel, and Moses.
608
00:42:10,230 --> 00:42:12,790
The suit claimed Mia
was emotionally disturbed,
609
00:42:13,570 --> 00:42:15,960
unable to manage
the rearing of her nine children,
610
00:42:16,820 --> 00:42:18,710
and was brainwashing the children
611
00:42:18,860 --> 00:42:22,760
with respect to the false allegations
of sexual misconduct by Allen.
612
00:42:30,330 --> 00:42:32,100
Why would you want
to take them away?
613
00:42:32,130 --> 00:42:34,350
You promised me
you would never do it.
614
00:42:34,500 --> 00:42:37,020
You know in your heart
I'm not heavily medicated,
615
00:42:37,050 --> 00:42:41,610
that I'm not abusive, that I always
spend enough time with them.
616
00:42:42,390 --> 00:42:46,740
If I have faults about that it's that I
always spend all my time with them.
617
00:42:47,100 --> 00:42:50,200
I don't think in the 13 years,
of the 13 movies we've done...
618
00:42:50,230 --> 00:42:52,370
You'll have a chance to prove that.
619
00:42:53,730 --> 00:42:55,710
But you know that in your heart,
620
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:58,960
that I've never showed up
for work without the children,
621
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:02,800
that the children
have always come first.
622
00:43:03,410 --> 00:43:07,010
You'll have a chance
to make that case at some point.
623
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:13,060
And when all the facts
are in we'll see.
624
00:43:15,380 --> 00:43:16,900
Okay.
625
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:23,070
- Is your phone taped?
- No, my phone's not taped.
626
00:43:23,260 --> 00:43:27,870
I'm the last person that knows
how to work that stuff.
627
00:43:30,850 --> 00:43:33,710
You don't even have to talk about it.
We can hang up now if you want.
628
00:43:33,900 --> 00:43:36,500
I was just hearing you out
because I think,
629
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:43,210
that a terrible thing
is being done to the kids...
630
00:43:44,740 --> 00:43:46,380
- Are you hanging up?
- Hold on one second.
631
00:43:46,780 --> 00:43:48,300
- Hello?
- Yeah, Woody?
632
00:43:48,410 --> 00:43:49,880
Yes, can I call you back?
633
00:43:49,910 --> 00:43:53,060
I'm on the phone with Mia and
I have been for the last 10 minutes.
634
00:43:53,250 --> 00:43:55,560
I'm not saying anything,
but I'm just listening and taping.
635
00:43:55,750 --> 00:43:57,150
God bless you. Bye.
636
00:43:58,250 --> 00:43:59,900
Hello!
637
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:02,530
- Hello.
- Okay.
638
00:44:03,090 --> 00:44:07,570
Do what you have to do. I don't think
it's in your best interest,
639
00:44:07,970 --> 00:44:09,690
or in the children's
best interest.
640
00:44:09,720 --> 00:44:12,740
You mean your best interest, right?
That's what this is about.
641
00:44:12,770 --> 00:44:15,620
Certainly not
in my best interest either.
642
00:44:15,770 --> 00:44:20,080
It's not in mine or yours,
or the children's.
643
00:44:22,860 --> 00:44:25,920
A judge has barred television cameras
from the courtroom
644
00:44:25,950 --> 00:44:29,510
during tomorrow's custody hearing
between Woody Allen and Mia Farrow.
645
00:44:30,240 --> 00:44:32,720
Allen is suing for custody
of the couple's three children.
646
00:44:32,910 --> 00:44:34,180
Try and get the kids.
647
00:44:34,370 --> 00:44:35,930
He said he should have custody
648
00:44:36,130 --> 00:44:38,190
of the three youngest children
he shared with Farrow,
649
00:44:38,420 --> 00:44:41,520
because she was seeking vengeance
on him through the children
650
00:44:41,710 --> 00:44:43,150
using them as pawns.
651
00:44:43,550 --> 00:44:46,150
We are confident that after the...
652
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,610
all the evidence is in we will prevail
at the custody hearing.
653
00:44:50,220 --> 00:44:54,700
It was a circus in that courtroom.
Everybody was jockeying for seats.
654
00:44:55,190 --> 00:45:00,420
I mean, every tabloid,
every big TV personality was there.
655
00:45:01,030 --> 00:45:04,960
Everybody wanted to know how this
was going to end for Woody Allen.
656
00:45:05,950 --> 00:45:10,300
Woody Allen to New York
was a home-grown hero
657
00:45:10,580 --> 00:45:15,810
to a whole generation of artists,
intellectuals, journalists.
658
00:45:16,170 --> 00:45:19,810
I grew up with Woody Allen
as a hero.
659
00:45:21,250 --> 00:45:26,570
The New York Times was Woody Allen's
hometown paper in so many ways.
660
00:45:26,930 --> 00:45:29,440
Vincent Canby, the film critic
for the New York Times,
661
00:45:29,470 --> 00:45:31,980
had long been a champion
of Woody's work.
662
00:45:32,010 --> 00:45:36,290
The readership of the New York Times
and the viewership of Woody's films
663
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:39,580
were almost two parallel audiences.
664
00:45:40,770 --> 00:45:42,710
He was the ultimate New Yorker.
665
00:45:42,860 --> 00:45:46,170
Next to the Statue of Liberty
who was the most famous New Yorker?
666
00:45:46,490 --> 00:45:50,680
Who expressed the city best? Who
epitomized it to the ultimate degree?
667
00:45:50,780 --> 00:45:57,310
It was Woody Allen. And so the
atmosphere was one of rapt attention.
668
00:46:01,590 --> 00:46:06,110
The Allen v. Farrow trial was presided
over by Judge Elliott Wilk,
669
00:46:06,300 --> 00:46:07,900
who would determine custody
670
00:46:07,930 --> 00:46:11,570
and visitation rights
for Dylan, Satchel, and Moses.
671
00:46:13,060 --> 00:46:15,700
Woody Allen
was the first witness sworn in,
672
00:46:15,850 --> 00:46:19,410
and his attorney, Elkan Abramowitz,
led the questioning.
673
00:46:19,690 --> 00:46:23,790
Were you ever alone
with Dylan on August 4th...?
674
00:46:26,190 --> 00:46:28,710
No. I was not allowed
to be alone with her.
675
00:46:28,740 --> 00:46:32,170
I was always
in the presence of other people...
676
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:38,390
I was never alone
for any substantial amount of time.
677
00:46:39,620 --> 00:46:42,600
These claims of Mr. Allen
were contradicted in court
678
00:46:42,630 --> 00:46:46,190
by three people who were supervising
the children on the day of his visit.
679
00:46:47,130 --> 00:46:49,570
Kristi Groteke,
Dylan's babysitter,
680
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:52,650
testified that she searched the house
looking for Dylan,
681
00:46:53,050 --> 00:46:55,950
but was unable to locate her
for about 20 minutes.
682
00:46:58,890 --> 00:47:02,500
During that same period,
Sophie Berge, Dylan's tutor,
683
00:47:02,940 --> 00:47:05,490
testified she was outside
with the other children,
684
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:08,380
where neither Dylan
nor Allen were to be found.
685
00:47:11,030 --> 00:47:14,260
Earlier Alison Stickland,
another babysitter,
686
00:47:14,370 --> 00:47:18,300
testified that she had walked in
on Dylan and Allen in the TV room.
687
00:47:18,540 --> 00:47:23,810
... Mr. Allen was on his knees in front
of Dylan with his head in hep lap...
688
00:47:24,130 --> 00:47:28,360
- ... where was he facing?
- Her, straight ahead.
689
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:31,770
- He was facing into her body?
- Yes.
690
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:34,990
"His head in her crotch",
that stuck with me.
691
00:47:36,930 --> 00:47:40,990
I remember reporters all, like,
exchanging sidelong glances.
692
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:45,040
There seems no reasonable way
693
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:51,210
to look at that behavior
as anything but trouble.
694
00:47:53,910 --> 00:47:58,220
The Woody who appeared
at the trial was a frightened,
695
00:47:58,330 --> 00:48:02,390
defensive creature
who was out of his element.
696
00:48:03,420 --> 00:48:05,520
There was no sense from him
697
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:08,600
that the motivation
for wanting sole custody
698
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:11,730
was his deep love for these children,
his concern for their welfare.
699
00:48:12,430 --> 00:48:16,360
I think you did get a sense
of his anger with Mia Farrow.
700
00:48:17,220 --> 00:48:21,950
It was really about portraying Mia
as vindictive
701
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:26,250
and seeking revenge
for the relationship with Soon-Yi.
702
00:48:27,820 --> 00:48:30,840
They were attempting
to make the case
703
00:48:30,940 --> 00:48:36,090
that Mia had concocted this story
as a way to punish Woody.
704
00:48:40,290 --> 00:48:42,300
Do you believe that Miss Farrow
705
00:48:42,410 --> 00:48:45,810
brainwashed Dylan
with respect to the accusations?
706
00:48:46,670 --> 00:48:51,230
I do believe
that she brainwashed Dylan...
707
00:48:52,420 --> 00:48:55,280
Mia instantly took Dylan,
708
00:48:55,760 --> 00:49:00,450
asked her in a leading way
about molestation...
709
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:08,080
Dylan, tell me again
what happened, okay?
710
00:49:10,020 --> 00:49:13,840
The videotape of Dylan
talking about abuse in the TV room,
711
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:18,300
and then in the attic, was entered
as evidence in the custody trial.
712
00:49:19,070 --> 00:49:22,140
Mia testified that she taped Dylan
over two days,
713
00:49:22,500 --> 00:49:24,430
whenever she had started
to speak about it.
714
00:49:25,330 --> 00:49:28,810
As part of our research we asked
a team of independent experts
715
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:30,640
to evaluate the tape.
716
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:37,740
He put his head on my lap,
hugged me tight.
717
00:49:39,430 --> 00:49:41,320
And then...
718
00:49:42,720 --> 00:49:44,280
And then he...
719
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:50,830
And then he secretly took
one hand
720
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:53,710
from...
721
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:58,760
from here,
and touched my privates.
722
00:49:59,070 --> 00:50:01,300
And I do not like that one bit.
723
00:50:01,990 --> 00:50:04,670
What a child forensic interviewer
is going to be looking for
724
00:50:04,700 --> 00:50:07,260
is as the child is describing
what happened
725
00:50:07,330 --> 00:50:11,100
does it seem like they are recounting
something that happened to them,
726
00:50:11,130 --> 00:50:14,390
or is there a disconnect
between the words that they're using
727
00:50:14,420 --> 00:50:17,650
and their body language, or their voice
inflection and that sort of thing.
728
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:20,740
- Where did he touch you?
- Here.
729
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:24,570
You can see the child
almost physically re-enacting
730
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:26,700
as though they're recalling
what happened to them
731
00:50:26,730 --> 00:50:29,200
by you can see her reaching
towards her backside.
732
00:50:30,900 --> 00:50:33,750
We went into your room
733
00:50:36,240 --> 00:50:39,300
and we went into the attic.
734
00:50:40,660 --> 00:50:42,800
He started telling me
weird things.
735
00:50:42,830 --> 00:50:45,260
And secretly
he went into the attic,
736
00:50:45,410 --> 00:50:49,010
and went behind me
and touched my privates.
737
00:50:49,870 --> 00:50:52,980
- Which privates did he touch?
- This part.
738
00:50:53,290 --> 00:50:55,600
- He touched your front part?
- Yeah!
739
00:50:57,260 --> 00:51:00,280
Mia Farrow was actually
pretty careful in her questions.
740
00:51:00,720 --> 00:51:04,610
All she did was say who,
what, when, where, and how.
741
00:51:05,260 --> 00:51:09,790
There were no overt suggestions like,
"He molested you, didn't he?"
742
00:51:09,890 --> 00:51:12,580
So there's none of that kind
of coaching going on,
743
00:51:12,690 --> 00:51:15,040
where there are
implicit suggestions
744
00:51:15,110 --> 00:51:19,920
such as one that I saw
was Mia Farrow
745
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:23,170
clearly believed that he must've taken
the child's pants off.
746
00:51:23,240 --> 00:51:26,090
So she asked,
"Did he take your pants off?"
747
00:51:26,540 --> 00:51:29,680
- Did he take your underpants off?
- No!
748
00:51:30,580 --> 00:51:33,980
Dylan says no.
She keeps coming back.
749
00:51:34,500 --> 00:51:36,350
You just already had them off?
750
00:51:39,720 --> 00:51:42,570
- But he didn't take them off?
- No.
751
00:51:43,140 --> 00:51:46,110
From my point of view what's
important is Dylan's response.
752
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:48,870
Does she go along
with the suggestion?
753
00:51:49,100 --> 00:51:52,910
"Yes, he took my pants off."
But she doesn't.
754
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:57,040
It's not just
what the interviewer says;
755
00:51:57,070 --> 00:52:01,090
it's whether the child
is suggestible or not that matters.
756
00:52:01,570 --> 00:52:04,590
And Dylan
says no to things like that.
757
00:52:04,660 --> 00:52:07,300
She's very consistent
in her story in this.
758
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:11,310
When I was in the attic he said,
759
00:52:13,210 --> 00:52:15,560
"Do not move.
I have to do this."
760
00:52:17,090 --> 00:52:19,810
But I wiggled my bottom
a little to see what he was doing.
761
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:22,650
He said:
"Don't move, I have to do this."
762
00:52:23,630 --> 00:52:25,860
"So if you stay still..."
763
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:30,990
"then we can go to Paris."
764
00:52:32,810 --> 00:52:35,370
When a child
is disclosing a conversation
765
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:37,960
or something
that another person says,
766
00:52:38,070 --> 00:52:41,710
that again increases
the credibility of the statement,
767
00:52:42,110 --> 00:52:44,050
because she's restating
something that she heard.
768
00:52:44,860 --> 00:52:49,720
So that's something that would be hard
to be coached on or fabricate about.
769
00:52:49,910 --> 00:52:54,180
- Did he say why you shouldn't tell?
- He said...
770
00:52:54,920 --> 00:53:00,900
"Because this way you can be
in my movie, if I do this."
771
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:10,780
- I didn't want him to do it, Mama.
- I know, of course not!
772
00:53:12,310 --> 00:53:14,910
The child is starting
to kind of shut down.
773
00:53:14,980 --> 00:53:16,790
It wouldn't surprise me at all
watching this clip
774
00:53:16,850 --> 00:53:20,370
if the child already is getting tired
of being asked these questions.
775
00:53:21,020 --> 00:53:25,710
That is a very typical progression
for an abused child,
776
00:53:27,070 --> 00:53:30,550
not so much
for a false accusation.
777
00:53:31,330 --> 00:53:34,760
False accusations
tend to get stronger under pressure.
778
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:39,180
I didn't like it.
779
00:53:42,630 --> 00:53:44,310
I just feel so bad for you.
780
00:53:45,720 --> 00:53:49,950
I don't like it.
I also don't want to talk about it.
781
00:53:50,010 --> 00:53:53,120
Okay. Let's turn this off.
782
00:54:02,980 --> 00:54:04,290
What's in that tape
783
00:54:04,690 --> 00:54:10,550
feels like that is who I am
when you strip away everything else.
784
00:54:13,370 --> 00:54:16,390
When you look underneath
all my layers,
785
00:54:16,870 --> 00:54:20,390
down to the very center
of who I am,
786
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:24,900
I am that little girl on the tape.
787
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:30,190
So...
788
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:35,820
it's a very vulnerable
part of me,
789
00:54:38,060 --> 00:54:39,540
and a very...
790
00:54:42,900 --> 00:54:44,370
very hurt part of me.
791
00:54:46,070 --> 00:54:47,340
There's a lot of...
792
00:54:49,740 --> 00:54:51,840
That little girl
is in a lot of pain.
793
00:54:56,120 --> 00:55:00,560
This kind of abuse
warps something inside of you.
794
00:55:03,460 --> 00:55:08,640
Because it doesn't happen
by a stranger
795
00:55:08,670 --> 00:55:11,070
that snatches you off the street
and throws you in a van.
796
00:55:14,390 --> 00:55:18,410
It happens by someone you love
and someone you trust,
797
00:55:20,060 --> 00:55:23,000
someone who buckles your seatbelt,
798
00:55:25,020 --> 00:55:26,920
takes your hand
when you walk down the street,
799
00:55:29,570 --> 00:55:31,460
reads you bedtime stories...
800
00:55:35,370 --> 00:55:40,850
It's incomprehensible to normal people
because it's not normal.
801
00:55:54,970 --> 00:55:56,740
It was the 20th day of a trial
802
00:55:56,810 --> 00:55:59,900
that has played out over nearly 7 weeks
in a New York courtroom,
803
00:55:59,930 --> 00:56:03,200
a day for closing arguments
by lawyers for Woody Allen,
804
00:56:03,230 --> 00:56:05,080
who was seeking custody
of three children
805
00:56:05,110 --> 00:56:07,620
from this 12 years
unmarried partnership with Mia Farrow.
806
00:56:07,770 --> 00:56:10,620
Farrow wiped tears from her eyes
as Abramowitz accused her
807
00:56:10,650 --> 00:56:13,760
of seeking revenge
for Allen's affair with Soon-Yi.
808
00:56:13,860 --> 00:56:15,130
The attorney argued,
809
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:19,510
"A mother who cannot subjugate her anger
at a father is unfit to be a parent."
810
00:56:21,450 --> 00:56:22,810
I was so scared.
811
00:56:25,290 --> 00:56:26,980
I didn't know
what would happen next.
812
00:56:29,750 --> 00:56:32,320
And so we waited
for the decision.
813
00:56:35,340 --> 00:56:38,700
We waited a week.
We waited two weeks.
814
00:56:39,720 --> 00:56:40,990
We waited a month.
815
00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:45,330
And then finally the judge
brought his opinion down.
816
00:56:46,310 --> 00:56:52,090
Woody Allen's bitter child custody
battle with Mia Farrow is over.
817
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:53,870
And a New York judge today
818
00:56:53,900 --> 00:56:57,130
cast Allen in a role
he's often played on screen: loser.
819
00:56:57,450 --> 00:57:00,840
The judge said Allen
did not demonstrate parenting skills
820
00:57:00,910 --> 00:57:04,640
that would qualify him
to care for Moses, Dylan or Satchel.
821
00:57:05,210 --> 00:57:10,190
On June 7th, 1993 Judge Wilk
issued his decision,
822
00:57:11,250 --> 00:57:14,570
and it was scathing.
823
00:57:16,010 --> 00:57:20,610
He stated, "Mr. Allen's behavior toward
Dylan was grossly inappropriate
824
00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:23,490
and that measures
must be taken to protect her.
825
00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:29,740
It is unclear whether Mr. Allen will
ever develop the insight and judgment
826
00:57:29,770 --> 00:57:32,880
necessary for him to relate
to Dylan appropriately.
827
00:57:34,690 --> 00:57:37,170
The evidence at trial
established that Ms. Farrow
828
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:39,260
is a caring and loving mother.
829
00:57:40,990 --> 00:57:43,470
I am not persuaded
that the videotape of Dylan
830
00:57:43,500 --> 00:57:46,470
is the product of leading questions
or of the child's fantasy.
831
00:57:47,620 --> 00:57:50,890
There is no credible evidence
to support Mr. Allen's contention
832
00:57:51,380 --> 00:57:53,400
that Ms. Farrow coached Dylan."
833
00:57:54,340 --> 00:57:57,360
He ruled Allen could not visit Dylan
for at least six months,
834
00:57:57,430 --> 00:58:00,280
and questioned whether he could
ever be a fit parent to the girl.
835
00:58:00,930 --> 00:58:03,870
Allen will be able to have
supervised visits with Satchel,
836
00:58:04,020 --> 00:58:05,620
the couple's biological child,
837
00:58:05,770 --> 00:58:08,200
but 15-year-old Moses
was left to decide
838
00:58:08,230 --> 00:58:10,330
whether he wants
to see his adopted father.
839
00:58:11,980 --> 00:58:13,620
Judge Wilk also addressed
840
00:58:13,650 --> 00:58:17,300
the findings of the Yale New Haven
report in his decision, stating,
841
00:58:18,610 --> 00:58:20,510
"The unavailability of the notes,
842
00:58:20,570 --> 00:58:24,180
together with their unwillingness
to testify at this trial
843
00:58:24,700 --> 00:58:29,520
resulted in a report which was
sanitized and therefore less credible."
844
00:58:31,420 --> 00:58:33,100
He could've very easily said,
845
00:58:33,170 --> 00:58:35,770
"I follow the guidelines
of the Yale study team.
846
00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:39,280
They're a very prestigious
organization," but he didn't.
847
00:58:40,090 --> 00:58:42,200
He said he didn't buy it.
848
00:58:45,060 --> 00:58:46,870
I didn't buy it either.
849
00:58:47,980 --> 00:58:52,460
As a reporter,
it's hard to admit this in a way.
850
00:58:52,810 --> 00:58:58,170
I absolutely worshiped Woody Allen
before this trial.
851
00:58:58,740 --> 00:59:01,460
And I still...
852
00:59:02,660 --> 00:59:05,550
The proof is I could never watch
a Woody Allen film again after this.
853
00:59:08,870 --> 00:59:15,440
It still hurts...
it still wrenches me to say that.
854
00:59:15,500 --> 00:59:17,440
It's still not easy to say that.
855
00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:27,030
My hope now is that I can go home,
back to my children,
856
00:59:28,100 --> 00:59:32,120
and that we will finally
have some measure of peace
857
00:59:32,900 --> 00:59:35,920
and be allowed to heal,
to begin that.
858
00:59:36,690 --> 00:59:40,500
It was a very strange
feeling for me
859
00:59:41,740 --> 00:59:44,130
being told that
860
00:59:48,870 --> 00:59:50,180
I never had to see him again.
861
00:59:51,210 --> 00:59:54,640
And it wasn't framed as, "You're
never going to see your father again."
862
00:59:55,130 --> 00:59:57,400
It was framed as,
863
00:59:58,670 --> 01:00:02,150
"Do you ever
want to see him again?" And...
864
01:00:04,260 --> 01:00:05,530
I didn't.
865
01:00:06,550 --> 01:00:10,030
I feel it's unfortunate,
even tragic for the kids
866
01:00:10,060 --> 01:00:12,580
that I didn't get custody of them.
867
01:00:12,810 --> 01:00:15,580
And if I could have
just a second to thank
868
01:00:15,900 --> 01:00:19,120
all the people in the streets,
and at the Knick games,
869
01:00:19,150 --> 01:00:21,960
and who have come over to me
and given me their support
870
01:00:22,070 --> 01:00:24,790
and said terrific things to me,
and, you know,
871
01:00:24,820 --> 01:00:28,630
I'm still in there fighting
and doing my best, and thank you.
872
01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:33,850
Allen appealed Judge Wilk's decision
to two higher courts.
873
01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:38,390
The appellate court
upheld Wilk's decision.
874
01:00:38,420 --> 01:00:41,640
New York's highest court,
The Court of Appeals,
875
01:00:41,670 --> 01:00:43,690
declined to hear the case.
876
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:46,610
Allen was ordered
877
01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:50,110
to pay more than one million dollars
in Mia Farrow's legal fees.
878
01:00:50,810 --> 01:00:53,400
Although the custody case
had been settled,
879
01:00:53,430 --> 01:00:56,450
the criminal investigation
in Connecticut was still continuing.
880
01:00:57,560 --> 01:00:59,000
Are you concerned?
881
01:01:00,190 --> 01:01:03,540
I don't know. I have no idea
what Connecticut is going to do.
882
01:01:03,570 --> 01:01:05,420
I don't even know
all the information they have.
883
01:01:05,700 --> 01:01:09,550
They have been very diligent.
I think they are also acting
884
01:01:09,740 --> 01:01:12,090
as best they can to protect
the children in this family.
885
01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:15,890
My instructions
to the Connecticut State Police was:
886
01:01:16,250 --> 01:01:20,560
"Gather your evidence and submit
to me an arrest warrant application."
887
01:01:21,460 --> 01:01:24,940
The decision as to whether or not
there was going to be a prosecution
888
01:01:25,010 --> 01:01:26,280
was my decision.
889
01:01:28,140 --> 01:01:32,280
Maco's team had compiled 1700 pages
of evidentiary material,
890
01:01:32,810 --> 01:01:34,950
including witness statements,
891
01:01:34,980 --> 01:01:38,040
logs of the physical evidence
collected by police,
892
01:01:38,100 --> 01:01:41,460
forensic reports,
maps of the crime scene,
893
01:01:42,020 --> 01:01:44,670
and reports of interviews
with all of the people involved.
894
01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:48,090
Among the state's evidence
895
01:01:48,200 --> 01:01:50,840
were records of a police interview
with Woody Allen,
896
01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:53,010
where he was inconsistent
897
01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:56,680
about whether he had ever been
in the attic crawlspace area,
898
01:01:57,330 --> 01:02:01,850
and interviews with Dylan by three
clinically-trained child-abuse experts
899
01:02:02,170 --> 01:02:04,430
from different government agencies,
900
01:02:04,460 --> 01:02:07,730
all of whom found Dylan
to be consistent, honest,
901
01:02:08,630 --> 01:02:11,030
and believed
she was telling the truth.
902
01:02:13,310 --> 01:02:15,280
The conclusion
of these investigators
903
01:02:15,390 --> 01:02:19,200
was there was probable cause to issue
an arrest warrant for Woody Allen
904
01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:24,170
on the charges of first-and fourth
degree sexual assault of a minor.
905
01:02:26,900 --> 01:02:29,460
I was confident
there was probable cause,
906
01:02:29,570 --> 01:02:33,630
meaning reasonable grounds
to believe a crime was committed.
907
01:02:34,160 --> 01:02:36,850
But I have to prove my case
beyond a reasonable doubt,
908
01:02:37,750 --> 01:02:41,140
and I can't prove a case beyond
a reasonable doubt without a child.
909
01:02:42,170 --> 01:02:48,150
In other words, could this child
be my first witness on the stand
910
01:02:48,300 --> 01:02:50,190
to say what had occurred?
911
01:02:52,430 --> 01:02:55,990
This case hinged on the testimony
of a seven-year-old girl.
912
01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:01,540
Woody Allen denies
913
01:03:01,730 --> 01:03:05,670
ever having been sexually inappropriate
or abusive with Dylan
914
01:03:05,730 --> 01:03:08,340
and was never criminally charged.
915
01:03:08,860 --> 01:03:12,670
Dr. John Leventhal declined
to be interviewed for this project.
916
01:03:12,700 --> 01:03:16,840
Jennifer Sawyer did not response
to request to be interviewed.
80841
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