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- As we mentioned, Donald Trump today called

for more and more military spending, more troops,

more ships, more submarines, more planes.

Didn't say how big

the increase in military spending would be,

but he did throw out a lot of numbers

in justifying the increase.

[TV buzzing]

- And look at this, almost 600 billion in spending there,

almost as much as all the other nine

of the top 10 combined, Anderson.

[TV buzzing]

- The pentagon has secured a $630 billion budget

for next year, even though it's failed to even account

for the money it's received since 1996.

A whooping $6.5 trillion of taxpayer cash

have gone to defense programs,

none of which has been audited and this a blank budget

has spanked concerns over political fraud.

[TV buzzing]

- A Reuters investigation says since 1996,

the Pentagon has spent $8.5 trillion in taxpayer money

that has never been accounted for.

[TV buzzing]

- One thing I found very interesting in this report

is that the Pentagon apparently uses

a standard operating procedure to enter false numbers

or so-called plugs to cover lost or missing information

in their accounting in order to submit

a balanced budget to the treasury

so they can writing everything.

- And this is probably the most shocking part of this,

is that they get to the end of the day and they say,

"Oh, there's there's money missing. What do we do?

Well, we'll just put a number in there that says it's there

and we'll sort it out later."

I mean, again, this is the type of operating practice

that if you did it in your own business,

if you try to do it with your own taxes for the government,

they'd haul you off to jail.

[TV buzzing]

- [Reporter] What is the Pentagon's black budget

being used for? Weapons? Defense?

This is the story of one military family's,

extraordinary claims, claims that could be found true

in a hidden reality.

- I'm Phil Schneider,

I spent 17 years in Black Budget Programs,

government geologist as engineer, structural engineer

with aerospace applications, self-taught metallurgist.

In working with the Black Projects,

I was involved in something very controversial,

almost totally unbelievable to most of you.

I was involved in building another base

inside of Dulce, New Mexico, which is Los Alamos laboratory,

on the Southwest part of the Archer ladle Mesa.

We were in the process of the early stages of building

we drilled four large tunnel like holes,

some of them ran two and a half miles under surface.

Anyway, after we drilled all four holes,

about a two days to drill, all four of them.

And when you build an underground base,

you drill four basic holes and then you build, called stopes

or across a number of holes across

and then you use blasting equipment

and you literally blast out

or tunnel out or deflagarate or melt the rock out,

the equipment kept coming up broken.

So we wanted to go down,

we wanted to send somebody down there,

a human observer or human observers in this case,

to find out what was going on.

When I saw Green Berets and Black Berets people in camp

inside of our geologists camp, I knew something was up,

the gig was up.

In this process, I was lower down in the basket

of one of these holes and about from me

to this elderly woman here in the front,

was sitting a seven foot tall alien gray,

the stench was worse than the worst garbage can,

you can imagine.

I didn't waste any time, I reached for my pistol,

at that time, I was an engineer,

I didn't have time to carry all a fold roll.

One of these big submachine guns at all was seized spray

and the yellow root and the outer perimeter

and inner perimeter security people carried.

I carried a little Walther PPK pistol with a nine shot clip.

Plus you're in a, almost like a space suit environment

and you're reaching for a gun,

it's not the easiest thing to do

and then to pop a clip in it

and start shooting

and I killed two of them.

Yes, they're mortal and they do die.

However, in the process, one of them did this,

all I remember is that he just kind of waved his hand

in front of his chest and the next thing I know

this blue beam hit me and just literally opened me up

like a fish.

There was some form of electrical force

because kind of like being hit by lightning bolt,

burned all my toenails off of me

and there was a Green Berets that was right behind me,

but he risked his life, he shoved me back in the basket

and hit the button and took me up,

and I wouldn't be alive talking to you today

if it weren't for him, I'm forever indebted,

he lost his life.

66 secret service agents, Green Berets, Black Berets,

crack troops lost their lives because the government,

our United States government lied, did not tell us anything

about the alien threat.

There's a war underneath there and I'm talking dead serious.

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The large alien berets had been in camp there for

as best as believe possible, about four or 500 years,

they've been in one of their internal bases.

And we drilled holes right on top of that,

all the stinking air, all the black city air came right out

as soon as one of the first hole was stopped

and all this suit came up,

well that's when all hell broke loose, really, all started.

I have a picture of one of the aliens,

it's been working for the United States Pentagon

for the last 58 years, his name is Valliant Four,

he's right here, there is my father in the background.

This whole place, the ready room of the US Eldridge,

I'll be like, he's probably explained,

or maybe even shown you this picture.

It's a list of some of the notable people in it,

and they're all the atomic bomb scientists of the day,

all the time variant experimentalists of the day,

all the top physicists of that particular day.

This was in August of 1943.

- [Narrator] Phil Schneider gave

most of his lectures in 1995.

He gained a following speaking around the United States,

telling people about his alleged experiences.

Phil claimed that he personally knew people

who also worked in Black Budget Programs who were murdered,

and that most of them were made to look like a suicide.

- 11 of my best friends in the last 22 years

have been murdered, eight of them, all suicide.

I finally got window with one of them,

Portland police is now involved in one

murdered by suicide [indistinct]

- [Narrator] On August six, 1993,

two years before his lectures,

one of Phil's best friends, Ron Rummel

was found dead in the same McClay park, Oregon.

He'd suffered a fatal gunshot wound to the head,

and a gun was found nearby.

Police ruled it as suicide, but Phil and many others

strongly believed that he was murdered.

Ron Rummel was best known for publishing "The Alien Digest",

a newsletter filled with stories and testimonies

regarding the UFO coverup.

[TV buzzing]

- Author Ron Rummel was about to publish a book,

revealing what he believed

to be the real purpose of the Star Wars Project

when his body

was found here in McClay Park in Portland, Oregon.

His death was ruled suicide,

but few agree with that verdict.

- As far as the police and the FBI are concerned,

it's case closed.

Unfortunately, there's a shocking thing that his murderer,

I believe, his murderer is still out there at large.

- Why is it you're speaking out?

- There've been enough lives taken

under the premise of suicide when they were actually

very stable individuals, they had families

and they had lives to look forward to.

They had every reason to live and if there is

some form of conspiracy out there,

then the more people that are talking

might end up saving lives in the long run.

My friend, Ronald Lee Rummel was an Air Force Officer

as a Silver star winner.

There's a good chance that when I fly back to Raina,

excuse me, to Vegas, I have to drive home,

and I left my car down in Vegas,

I'll drive home alone, I'm scared to hell.

- [Narrator] On January 17th, 1996,

after not being seen for at least five days,

Phil Schneider was found dead in his apartment

by his landlord and a detective

from the Clackamas County Sheriff's Office.

The autopsy report listed the cause of death as unknown,

but it was later discovered

that Phil was actually strangled by his own catheter hose.

Was this a case of negligence or a cover up?

- I, and there's a number of you ladies present,

so I won't gory you out, but Al has seen some of the ones

and there's few other people that have been

to a few of my other lecturers and they can attest

that I have been shot, I've been run off the road,

I've been pushed off the road.

- [Reporter] This is an account of Phil's death,

a case that reeks of suspicion, neglect of duty

and disregard for human dignity.

The first official police report defines

Phil's cause of death to be from natural causes.

On January 16th, 1996, Deputy Officer McCleland

is alerted by a suspicious apartment manager

that he has not seen Phil for weeks.

Upon first investigation when entering Phil's apartment,

Officer McCleland finds Phil's body beside his bed

with his face lying in the seat of his own wheelchair.

Medical and forensic examiner, Mr. Coleman,

chooses not to respond to the crime scene.

At this point, Phil had been dead for three to four days,

January 17th, his body is then whisked away

to a funeral home.

January 18th, Mr. Took calls from the funeral home

to alert the police that he has found a catheter cord

wrapped around Phil's neck.

This leads to the starting of detective Haggens'

investigation on the same day.

Haggens seems to be the only one interested

in following up this case honestly.

He calls medical examiner Coleman and Sergeant Joyce,

who both elect not to respond.

Upon further investigation while interrogating

Deputy McCleland, the deputy recalls the catheter cord

being near Phil's neck at the scene of the crime.

It is concluded in this report that the only person

who could have been around Phil at this time

was a woman from the Oregon Senior and Disabled Services.

Other things recovered from the scene of the investigation

were seven pill medications.

Detectives, Harris, and Kennel are then assigned

to the case,

an autopsy is to be held by Dr. Gunson on January 19th.

This was requested as well by Cynthia, Phil's late wife.

The autopsy report surmises Phil's cause of death

by his fixation, ruled a suicide.

Recovered stomach material showed no signs of pills.

Furthermore, blood and urine

are placed on a three month hold,

only to be reported as lost when Cynthia calls,

after the given time has passed.

The catheter cord is described as being wrapped

around the neck once

and then tied from the front very tight.

Now you must ask yourself, how can Phil be found dead

via strangulation with his face in the seat

of his own wheelchair?

Is this something that he could do himself?

Without taking any form of medical assistance

in order to sedate?

What do we have here?

Is this a clean cut case of suicide,

or could there likely be foul play?

Could this be a case of murder by suicide?

This case was determined on January 19th

as death by suicide, which is further indicated

on his death certificate.

But, something of even more suspicion appears in this case.

In the Oregonian obituaries, a statement has given,

not by Cynthia, that he died from a stroke.

- [Lee] So what happened here?

- Teddy gets them samples of Phil, my dad and my mom,

they were suddenly missing, mysteriously missing.

- [Lee] And what did they say?

They were just as surprised as you were?

- [Marie] Yeah, "Oh, we don't have those samples."

- [Lee] It's like they never did, or they just

- Yeah. - [Lee] They just...

Didn't even know?

- [Marie] They said, "We'll hold them for a year.",

and mom came back 11 months, before the due date,

you know, there was one month until

they would not hold them anymore

and they suddenly didn't have them anymore, yeah.

- Look, let's get right down to it.

When you're dealing with something of that magnitude,

what it appears to be, that is the presence

of a variety of non-humans here on earth

that are here for some sort of agenda

and everything else that goes along with that,

including possible collaboration

by various human groups within,

this is obviously incredibly explosive material.

And so it goes without saying,

that the intelligence agencies, the deep black agencies

[indistinct] groups that are involved in this

would need to keep this as quiet as possible,

and they have to, for their own preservation.

So in other words, secret becomes the ultimate goal for this

and that means secrecy in theory, forever,

forever, secrecy forever.

If there are leaks that are going to come out afterwards,

you have to find a way to disable those leaks,

either by disabling the information

or the individual behind it,

doesn't have to be by killing them

it could be by ruining their reputation,

by discrediting them in one way or another,

that's just as good.

Certainly, one the thing that we know

over the last 60, 70 years, that assassination techniques

have become very, very sophisticated, very sophisticated.

They are suiciding someone, and that is killing them,

and making it be a suicide.

This is widespread, it's been widespread for many years,

During the days of the Cold War,

the KGB was very good at this.

To this day, you're not gonna get the CIA to admit,

but we know that this happened.

It happened in the case of a fellow named Frank Olson

in the early 1950s and when in a biological warfare expert

who was given LSD without knowledge by a CIA friend.

Long story short, he was taken to large hotel

in New York city to the tenth floor

and was thrown out the window.

They made it seem like a suicide,

there was no suicide, Olson was killed

because he'd become a security risk.

This is an old game.

So back to our scenario here of multiple non human groups,

with possible human alien interaction going on.

This is a secret that has to be kept

from their point of view

and anyone who threatens that secrecy

has gotta be [indistinct]

whether by discrediting that person

or [indistinct], by killing them.

- [Narrator] Upon examination, it seems easy to accept

the theory that Phil was a victim of homicide,

but what does that mean for his claims

of aliens living underground?

Years after Schneider's death,

other claims of a joint human-alien base

underneath Dulce, New Mexico are surfacing left and right.

The book "UFO Highway" by Anthony Sanchez

is essentially transcripts of interviews

with a person only known as Colonel X,

who supposedly worked inside this facility

and is known to believe that Phil Schneider

was really there.

Shows like History Channel's "UFO Hunters"

have even visited the area, looking for clues.

- It's a 14-mile underground tunnel

that goes under that mountain there.

- [Man] Yes.

- [Narrator] Even Jesse Ventura's "Conspiracy Theory"

on True TV paid a visit to the alleged location

of the Dulce Base.

- They have it pretty well secured.

- Do they?

- Yeah, the government.

- [Narrator] Some other pretty credible sources

for alien activity in the Archuleta Mesa

include the high number of Apache Native Americans

who have some pretty insane stories

of strange happenings in the area.

[TV buzzing]

- Rumor has it there is a secret base hidden underneath

the Archuleta Mesa here.

The mountain overlooks Dulce,

some people in town say the base is run by aliens,

working with our federal government

to conduct mind control and genetic experiments.

Do you believe that?

- Yeah, well a whole bunch of people have seen it, you know.

- The ground opened up, steam coming out of it.

- Geri Julian says she had her first

extra terrestrial encounter right here on her Dulce ranch

about 40 years ago.

- It was huge, I just saw the bottom of it, you know.

It was flat like this.

[quick whooshing]

- [Reporter] Many of her neighbors

claim similar strange sightings.

- Fat in the middle and the kinda like rounded on the sides.

You're speechless, you know,

you just don't know what to think.

- [Reporter] Sometime in the seventies, things changed,

that's when cows started turning up mutilated.

- It just cut out in between the legs right here,

we seen one.

- All I know it's not a predator that's doing it,

someone's doing it.

- Local police never definitively said who's to blame,

locals say it has to be something out of this world,

they say, they know it sounds crazy.

- I'll submit to a lie detector test or anything.

- [Narrator] To be fair, at this point,

we have to also play devil's advocate

with Phil Schneider's extraordinary claims.

It is entirely possible that he simply heard

about the tales of UFO and underground bases

and the Archuleta Mesa area and made up his own story

based on those stories.

In order to at least make an attempt at finding out

if he was telling the truth or not?

We must first know who Phil Schneider was.

- [Cynthia] I kind of knew about Phillip

I mean, I had met him through the Oregon Agate

and mineral Society in Portland, Oregon.

I had been a past president of the society,

had about five hundred members.

So it's a large group of people who came together

every other week to study rocks and minerals.

- [Narrator] What year was this?

- [Cynthia] 1985.

Phillip grew up in a Navy Army Force family

'cause he was all over, places with his dad.

So let's see, while he was young

I think they also went to London,

it was in the early 50s, 1950s.

So he was in London and I think that's when Oscar

was working in NATO.

He was [indistinct] armed force work in NATO.

But he kind of knew that his dad was doing

a lot of hot secret things later on in life.

- I'd also like to mentioned something about my father.

My father was a U-boat captain in Hilter's Navy,

he was captured by the French,

turned over to Third Army, the US Third Army

and then US Third Army turned him over to the Navy.

And he was a master machinist,

that's not a journeyman,

a master means they can take a block of metal and make a gun

or a watch or some other finance instrument,

he was a master machinist, he later became an MD doctor

and part of the Aerospace Medicine Group

of the United States Navy.

Was instrumental in helping build the USS Nautilus

and its predecessor, The Enterprise,

the first nuclear powered aircraft carrier

and other ships like it.

- [Reporter] Phil's father Oscar Auto Schneider

was also involved in government secrecy and black projects.

In the 1990s, during Phil Schneider's lecture tour

across the United States,

he was known to carry many documents and pictures,

providing evidence to certain testimony

about controversial subjects he would be discussing.

Furthermore, there were four documents

which Phil carried with him on lecture tour.

These documents were allegedly owned by Oscar Schneider

while he was in office working for the United States Navy

in the 1950s.

During this time,

the rumored Philadelphia experiment took place.

And perhaps these documents are the smoking gun

that prove, in fact, the Philadelphia experiment did occur.

The first document, details and autopsy report

on one of the crew members from the Philadelphia experiment.

- [Cynthia] One of the letters that Oscar wrote

about the autopsy

of the Philadelphia experiment crew member [indistinct]

he was pulling out of their...

Back of their eyes and their arms, their legs

with little things that looked like transistors,

it's exactly what they were,

they were little surveillance items that were placed

into the bodies of the Philadelphia experiment crew members.

- [Reporter] In this letter, it is addressed to Lieutenant

Nathan F. Twining.

Oscar seems to report on the vessel,

which Twining staff couldn't find.

Furthermore, it includes an order from J Edgar Horver

to have all personnel undergo psychological testing.

The third letter addresses Edward Condon.

Edward Condon is well known for his involvement,

explaining away all UFO phenomenon

as simply optical illusions.

However, in this letter, Oscar seems to be reporting

to Edward that seven Philadelphia project experiencers

had escaped from a psych ward that Oscar

was holding and testing them at.

He goes on to say that J. Edgar

had declared the incident classified as 1-A Prime Directive,

possibly meaning something in regards

to a top secret security clearance,

finishing this letter with a reference

to Nikola Tesla's spatial analyzer.

This is significant because Nikola Tesla

has always been known to be involved with the design

of the machine, which would create

the fabled Philadelphia experiments invisible technology.

Condon, having been known most notoriously

as the leading UFO debunker of his time,

paved the way for secrecy and coverups

in this realm that we study today.

The fourth and final letter, Oscar Schneider writes again

"In consideration of the latent facts,

"considering the fate of the U.S.S Farrenseth, DE-173,

"all ships, personnel and material

"must be quarantined absolute

"until further notice, no exceptions.

"An onsite Naval inspection is ordered forthwith

"as Bureau of Ships reticent requirements

"in section 93-A, please include DE-173 ships' log

"to Admiral Roscoe Hillenkolte, USN.

"Consider them and all events of nature above Secret."

C class ARH-9, Project Blue Sky,

Oscar Schneider, Captain U.S.N.

- [Narrator] At this point, it appears that Phil Schneider's

father, Oscar, was very likely involved

in classified operations that involve

top secret technologies.

But what about his son, Phil?

What do we really know about his work?

- [Cynthia] I will say late sixties, he started his work

and that I have social security records

under a wrong social security number

and I think since is how the black cops get away

with a lot of things,

'cause they put you under the wrong social security number

so you can't prove your work history and stuff,

but I can prove that under the wrong social security number

he worked for Morrison Knudsen, which is a contractor,

so civilian contractor that worked for the army or the Navy.

He did some work at Trojan Nuclear after that.

By the early 1980s, he was applying for SSI,

so I know by the early 1980s, his career is done.

He's still injured

that he cannot do any more work and his memory

is totally lost as to what he did before.

It wasn't till after we got married

and he got good medical care

and stopped taking the medications

he was taking when I first met him

that he's started to remember all of the things

that are now on the internet.

- [Cynthia] Hello Marie.

- Hi.

- Want a Spark?

- [Cynthia] Lots of food and soft drinks.

- There you go.

- [Darcy] So, tell me, when did Phil start telling you

about his past and his work?

- It was soon after he kept saying that he had

to take [indistinct] to prevent seizures.

But I noticed when he took [indistinct],

he would have a seizure [laughing].

it was the other way round,

it was actually killing him.

And it was disrupting him mostly physically,

so much that he didn't have much of a memory

of anything in his past.

And then after we were married,

he got really good medical care,

it slowly started to come back.

I mean, it was like, he would even say to me,

"Tia, I hope you don't take like I'm lying

because I'm just remembering this.

But wow, these things start coming out

and I just suddenly remember what's really happened."

But that's really when it started.

When Oscar died, it might've been '94,

so I put down into his basement, found the file cabinet

full of stuff that was just unbelievable.

And he showed me most of them.

I mean, I saw the original envelopes

with original paperwork that had the drawings on it.

I saw the original photographs with the stamp from the back

from the Navy.

I mean, it wasn't all real stuff, this was not faked.

He shared so much with me

though we were divorce at the time.

So I saw all this stuff that came out of the file cabinet,

but he'd been talking to Ron about it a lot.

Thy were doing a little alien fantasy, a little digest,

and then his dad died and he found all the stuff

in the basement.

Well, Ron was murdered that same year

and that infuriated.

As Phillip grew up, he went to Lincoln High School

here in Portland 'cause I have a transcript of his

Senior High School.

So that was pretty normal except it does indicate

on that transcript that he had an IQ of 163.

Now, I know Phil told me that before he had his

medical issues, he could speak 11 languages.

And I believed that because he would suddenly,

in the middle of the night, we were sleeping together,

he suddenly start rambling off different languages.

So this was although, in his sleep,

he consciously couldn't remember

how to speak those languages, but in asleep unconsciously,

he could still connect with some.

[laughing]

- So this is the new one.

Looking good.

Now, down side to the left, you can see two big clowns.

[laughing]

[TV buzzing]

[bright music]

[TV buzzing]

[chattering]

- [Cynthia] Phillip.

- Yeah.

- [Kid] I can find you, I gotcha.

[mimicing a roar]

- Nothing.

- First of all, the idea of underground [indistinct]

and underground civilizations,

actually, this is a very old idea in human history.

Going back in thousands of years you've got

ancient prides around the world,

that have made these claims that we would say

is in their myths, but that there are secret caverns,

secret races, secret tribes that exist under the ground.

And really when one talks about, for example,

Hollow Earth theory, that's a lot

of what we're talking about here.

Not all Hollow Earth theorists say that the earth is hollow.

A lot of them will say that there are just substantial

cartons under the ground where

there are civilizations that are down here.

So that's an old idea,

you get it in a lot of Asian European,

I think like the Germans have a tradition,

and native Americans have this tradition.

The Tibetans may have the most extensive tradition

of this for all I know.

South America traditional tribes had this as well.

So the idea in the Tibetans mission,

from what I had understood about it

is that there are different races below

the surface of the earth, including reptoid

or [indistinct] races that are supposedly from other worlds,

I'm not making this up.

So that by itself is interesting and you might ask,

why do all of these disparate civilizations had

these types of ideas?

And I don't have the answer to that,

but I can tell, that's an old, old idea.

- [Narrator] Dolan goes on to explain

the supposed connection between the Nazis

and Tibetan Hollow Earth theories.

- And we really get into the 20th century

where the Nazis and their predecessors,

we just call them Thule Society,

which was a of a mystical set that the Nazis

really drew a lot out of in forming our own ideology.

The Thule Society was very interested in Tibet nets,

about openings into the earth,

This idea of the underground tunnels,

aces, crisscrossing the world

and so this was a Tibetan idea.

We have to assume that the Nazis themselves

were familiar with this idea as well.

- [Richard] There's no question that the secret

underground base do exist and by the way,

it's not only the military of the United States

or of other countries, who are making things underground

and also under sea facilities,

other agencies and organizations do it as well.

All that is needed is a requisite well funded,

expert personnel and technology.

In the early to mid 20th century,

you had the French, of course,

who constructed the so called Marginot Line

in Eastern France to guard against German invasion

in World War II.

It was a military civil engineering organization

in the third Reich called the Todt organization

and it was named after Fritz Todt.

Fritz Todt was a brilliant civil engineer,

he was the father of the German Autobahn system.

During the world war II period, Adolf Hitler

asked Fritz Todt to lend his engineering expertise

to the military program of the Third Reich,

which he did.

He established an engineering agency,

which was called the Todt Organization.

Now, Fritz Todt died in a [indistinct] crash in 1942.

And one of his deputies named Xaver Dorsch

took over control of the agency,

identified a couple of project Paperclip memos from 1947

that specifically requested Xaver Dorsch, by name,

to be brought to the United States to work

on the United States military's

underground plant construction program.

The American military certainly was well aware

of who Xaver Dorsch was and his expertise.

In his day, he was probably the preop like authority

on underground based construction,

whether in Germany or in the United States.

[TV buzzing]

- Ruins have been uncovered in Argentina,

but they're not from an ancient civilization.

They're reportedly connected with the Nazi regime.

According to an article in the New Zealand Herald,

a secret bunker was found, which appears

to have been planned for members of the Nazi party

to use a hideout after losing the war

and fleeing to South America.

- [Richard] But I had people tell me

that some of the bases are as deep as 10, 12, 14 miles down.

- [Darcy] Okay, so they're one mile deep,

how would they make that?

Like you'd say possibly a piece of technology

that you came across in documents you were researching or?

- [Richard] Oh yes, oh yes.

60s, that's at least the 1950s,

the mining and civil engineering industries

had that capability to sink a major shaft

straight down one, even two miles or more

and then to top out from the bottom of the shaft,

whether for mine purposes or for anchoring tall complexes.

Well, the most common form is to use a very hard

cutting heads of a tone of wide machines that rotate

would be like a huge version of the drills.

You could just hit the petroleum industry

and natural gas industry

to drill very deep underground boreholes.

- [Darcy] I heard theories of also

mutual power drills?

- [Richard] Yes, I cited this technology,

my first book, these are called subterranean.

Subterraneans are nuclear powered,

they use a small fishing nuclear reactor.

The nuclear reactor is staying within the machine,

the research and design was done at

[indistinct] National Laboratories back in the 20th century.

And there were some patterns granted to the research team,

Los Alamos if they audit and use,

they are being used, planned destinely in great secrecy.

- [Darcy] Could you also, I mean lense

to the audience, some examples of

real underground facilities.

- [Richard] The most famous one would be

under Cheyenne mountain in Colorado,

which used to be [indistinct] the headquarters,

Now it's a backup [indistinct] base,

but that'd be the famous one

I guess it's appeared in many movies,

it's large, it's sophisticated, it's deep.

Then you also have the famoous FEMA underground base

BD Mountain Weather in Northern Virginia.

It's run by FEMA, the Federal Emergency Management Agency.

It's also quite deep, sophisticated, large

this is also called site-R complex.

That is the [indistinct] alternate command center,

which is underground on the border between

Maryland and Pennsylvania.

Then of course you have the well known A51 facility,

there's been quite a lot of underground

tumbling excavation, done there.

Many people have spoken about facilities out there.

[TV buzzing]

- Yes, sir. - Let's go back in there

the so called area A51 because

in people's minds, would you say I can't talk about it

because it's classified? conjures up.

Oh, there it is, there's the coverup.

Can you give us any hint

without violating any sense of a confidential nature?

What kinds of things might be happening?

- Sir, I cannot forgive me, I just do not know.

- [Reporter] Is there anyone in the air force, that can?

- I'm gonna have to defer that to public affairs.

It's outside of my area of expertise.

[TV buzzing] - Do you believe in UFO's?

- [Reporter] First window sir.

- [Reporter] Why not?

- Ma'am, I have no reason to believe that they're real.

- And then there are other ones that are perhaps

less well known to the NSA and Laurel, Maryland,

which is at Fort Meade, Fort Meade is an Army facility,

but to NSA is actually the major activity there.

And there are little acres, multiple acres

of supercomputers beneath fort B

that go down and down and down.

I'm even told 20 levels, maybe more.

And then, Los Alamos National Lab in Northern New Mexico.

Then you have, Camp David in Maryland

and many people are familiar with Camp David,

as United States, presidential retreat with the presence

of an helicopter too for rest and relaxation.

But [indistinct] say

there is a massive underground facility that

spreads out for miles and the run up

to the first board against the Iraq Bechtel

built three deeply [indistinct], sophisticated

underground facilities in Saudi Arabia.

They were years during the war [indistinct],

the first war storming, Norman Schwarzkopf,

who was the American military commander.

Despite, most of that were underground at Saudi Arabia

and the Chinese, it has come to light

that the Chinese have constructed something like

3000 miles of underground tiles

to house their nuclear arsenal.

- [Darcy] What is, what's the benefit of building

all of these bases in and around the world?

What is it for?

Is it for, keeping things secret

and what are they keeping secret?

Is it for keeping things away from the public?

Is it also for protection in some way?

Could you elaborate on that?

- [Richard] Yes, to all of that,

all of those are considerations.

The motivation for going deep, underground

and or deep under sea

is often driven by concerns of security and secrecy,

weapons production, and storage happens underground,

whether for nuclear weapons or other kinds

this has been going on ever since the world war II period.

[TV buzzing]

[man troop commanding]

- [Narrator] It looks almost like a scene

from an action movie,

dozens of ballistic missile, launching systems

inside a gigantic cave.

But the video shows Iran's missile program

is very real and very big as the head of

the elite revolutionary guards aerospace division says,

"The missiles and various ranges are mounted on launchers

"in all bases and are ready to be launched."

He told an Iranian state TV reporter

and added that is if enemies make a mistake.

[Tv buzzing]

- You also have scientific research facilities underground.

The CERN supercollider

on the border of Switzerland and France would be

a good example that one is very much publicly known

and discussed, there are other

undergraduate research facilities,

including that Area 51 and elsewhere

that operate much more out of the public eye.

There are many rumors

about clandestine extraterrestrial facilitates

both underground and under sea,

and a growing number of people have come

forward over the years with anecdotal accounts

of having seen and, or been taken

into such facilities by a variety of reasons,

both by extraterrestrials and also by shadow elements

of the United States military by clandestine units,

I do take these stories seriously,

I do believe that these types of Philips facilities exist.

What are the main reasons that they would be here

and underground again for secrecy, for security

and for purposes of communication,

command and control.

The same reasons that the United States military

builds underground bases.

- [Narrator] Secrecy, how corporations and military

rule the underworld.

- [Richard] I spent years going through

aims of a technical documentation,

military industrial complex

and Morrison-Knudsev is one of those

that would pop up in the bibliographies,

companies like Parsons I got off quite a dockless

Kiewit, Black $ Veacth, of course you have

two military agencies, the Army Corps of Engineers,

which is definitely involved in constructing

underground bases and tunnels.

It has been for more than half a century.

You also have the US Navy Seabees

who also work in underground and under sea construction.

And those would be the leap to the lead military agencies.

But there are large corporations that are involved.

The Bechtel Corporation is one

then you have the tunnel boring machine companies,

such as the Robbins company,

a number of these companies, which for decades,

have worked very closely with not only

the United States military agencies, but also other agencies

in construction of underground facilities and tunnels.

These are massive undertakings.

And to do that, you need to have large organizations

with the bureaucratic and administrative structure,

that's capable of supporting projects like this.

You won't easily find this stuff on the internet.

I've found these documents by going

to Federal Document Repositories

at major university libraries in the United States,

and also to Federal Agency Document Repositories.

With these corporations,

it's like a shell game and it's harder and harder

to find out who is working for whom

and what they're doing and under what conditions.

The so-called [indistinct],

is now owned by something called URS as of 2007.

So you see it makes it hard to follow what they're doing

and to follow the money and the contracts,

because the names and the corporate alliances

are constantly changing at a state of [indistinct]

very high level.

- No, these megabases are gobbling up

our gross national product.

Right now we're spending 28% of the gross national product

on building underground bases solely.

That doesn't count for the defense budget,

that doesn't count for the spare parts budget

and the black budget is dead, dead wrong.

It sidesteps the United States Congress

and its constitution of its people and says,

"You're a bunch of morons, you don't need to know."

Now all this alien thing is fine, except for one thing,

the alien takeover is a serious threat,

kept totally out of the public view, off the surface,

I'm sure the underground bases without question,

are being used as form a place to house alien takeover.

Alien takeover means the implementation

of a one-world government,

direct opposite of constitutional law,

direct opposite of freedom of choice,

freedom of religion, and other freedoms that go with it,

right to bear arms.

If we allow another election to go by

with the same ilk in the white house,

we have only ourselves to blame.

- [Richard] All questions that arise is

whether or not there is the legendary,

much talk about a deal

between given government groups

and non-humans, the human alien deal.

You know, all I can say is quite is that

anything is possible,

I do believe that there are

a number of other beings that are here.

So if that is possible,

isn't impossible as such a deal of that or more.

For example, what would the deal have included?

It could have included,

we humans getting certain technologies

and knowledge from them

in exchange for them having

the ability to do certain things in our society,

without us giving them us them housing for,

for them having a permanent base somewhere,

maybe in Nevada or for them every now and then

taking a human being to examine them

and then returning them.

This is the claim of the human alien deal

and claim furthermore is that

we learned during the seventies and eighties,

that they were not abiding by their agreement

that they were taking humans, not telling us,

not telling even the government and so forth.

[indistinct] I have any ideas this is true or not,

I have no idea.

What I would say is that

it would very much be in the interest

of a visiting race to make a deal,

with the US government, why not?

Sure they might be able to wipe us out

if they felt like it,

but maybe that's too much of a hassle for them.

Maybe it's just a lot easier to deal with the local

government panel.

And so it would make sense

to make an arrangement with the local storms, strongman,

which would be the US military and US government

and if you really want to get

some terranean here, so to speak,

there would be a lot of [indistinct]

from a visiting race of extraterrestrials

to exploit earth and humanity to max.

You know, a lot of folks in this field believe

that any visiting ET rates would be by their nature

be peaceful and non-violent, I never agreed with this,

I don't understand at all why

just because you have better technology

then that means you're nicer.

You could be just as exploitative,

look at human history.

we've got great technology these days,

it doesn't mean we're any less exploitative

than people who were financing years ago.

Well, look, if you come from someplace,

that's not here really makes sense, doesn't it?

To create a secure environment for yourself,

probably under the ground, it's the best place to be.

All the features of planet earth

are suitable for human beings.

They may not be as suitable

for some other type of species that

didn't come from here.

When I go through the various witness reports,

alleged reports and encounters that people have had

with these other entities,

They don't...

It reinforces my opinion

that we are dealing with multiple groups.

So at this point in the game,

my working assumption is that humanity right now

is interacting really on covert basis

with multiple, highly intelligent non-human groups,

than are here and they're here for purposes

that might very well be quite varied.

It's not necessarily the case that they all have one agenda.

Now, some of these groups,

some of these entities, according to,

again, witness accounts are like the prototypical graves.

That is the short human eyed, large black eyes

they have, another type of,

not even that's been discussed are reptoid types

that is large kind of intimidating reptilian creatures.

And yet another type that's been recorded

are what we might call a mantle

or insectoid type creatures all, this is bizarre.

But yet these reports are consistent

across many, many years in many different types of people,

some who are utterly ignorant

of the lore around the literature about this,

and they still report these, ordinary people.

So that gives me pause,

that makes me really wonder

if these reports are consistent

with some of the more ancient myths

that people have reported back in earlier times.

- As for the murder, was the fact, that

Cynthia went to a few psychics and asked them,

you know, well, it shouldn't ask them,

but she, she was looking to find out

anything about that murder.

And I think

she went to like three or four different psychics,

and they told her that he was killed by several people.

one was a woman and there were,

like two to four men involved.

I'm gonna go ahead and say, I think that's all we know.

There's documents out there, they're in the documentary.

There's more documents that he toured with,

tons, pictures of UFO's flying away from Bikini Atoll.

When the military was testing

their first nuclear bombs out there,

his father was involved in all this stuff.

And when his father died

right around the time that he started going on lecture tour,

Phil picked up a lot of these documents

from his father's basement office.

And Cynthia Schneider even told me this, Cynthia Fair.

And, basically that's one of the sort of smoking guns

to the whole phenomenon is that

there was somebody that wouldn't come out

and talk about this subject themselves,

which was Oscar Schneider,

but his son was would.

- [Narrator] Down and then you had guys like this

that they were building, you look at

the tea party,

the political party that

really it was born out of a grassroots movement

and you look at the way that these people,

they saw stuff happening and the American public,

sort of political forum and they were sick and tired of it.

And they formed the tea party as a group,

and they became really powerful and now

they have seats in Congress and everything, but,

I guess what I'm trying to say is

Phil Schneider and William Cooper

were both forming these sort of grassroots movements,

these large groups of people that were listening to them

all over the United States.

And these were people that were

not necessarily looking for the old calls.

There were sometimes just average Joes

that were, tired of what they were being told

by the government or by the mainstream media.

And they wanted to find something fresh

and find something that

maybe connected better with what they may

believe to be true,

what was really going on around the world.

And I think that's the real threat

and back then it was a real threat to the powers that be

because you had a pretty stable system of disinformation,

infiltrating the minds of the people

and keeping the paradigm nice and stable.

But then you had people like

Phil Schneider and William Cooper going on tour

around the US and just saying, this is bullshit.

You're all living a lie, wake up.

- This world we live in is not simple

and there's all kinds of stuff out there

that don't have simple explanations

and this story really attracted me.

It really attracted Lee, we've been good friends

ever since we got attracted to the story and...

- I think the reason why Darcy and I

really gravitated towards Phil is because

for two reasons, one,

it's probably the most bold claim

related to the UFO phenomenon I've ever heard,

the fact that there's aliens underground.

And the fact that this guy was not only encounter them,

but was it a battle with them

and they wounded him in this fight that broke out.

That is probably the boldest claim I've ever seen

related to the UFO phenomenon.

So that's the reason why I think

we became obsessed with this guy,

and also he's kind of undebunked.

You know there's a lot of people on YouTube

and on the internet that really kind of believe him.

And I thought that was also interesting

because it was kind of like this thing

where maybe we never will know

if he was telling the truth or not,

but it's interesting

because he was a higher math genius.

I think he had like an IQ of 140 in high school,

Darcy was that accurate?

- [Darcy] Yeah it was very, very high.

- 162, yeah, high IQ, this wasn't just some guy

that told the story.

He was a guy with a really rich background,

really interesting history, he worked on,

we have documents in the documentary of his work history

and you can see that he worked for Morrison Knudsen

and, definitely was working

for these big military contractors.

So he's not just some guy like a Bob Lasar,

who has no credentials and has this,

which by the way, I'm not knocking Bob Lasar.

I didn't mean it like that I love Bob too.

I'm just saying - Okay.

Phil is a guy where we can actually prove his work history.

- Yeah.

- So that, that adds some credibility

that is kind of rare with these type of people.

- [Narrator] Deep underground military bases,

extra terrestrials living beneath earth surface,

a race that might not even be from another planet,

but rather one that has existed here

in the shadows throughout mankind's entire development,

is this the biggest coverup in our history

or just another conspiracy theory?

In 2017, we still have no definitive proof

that any of these claims are true,

which is all the more reason

why this just might be

one of the greatest journalistic responsibilities

of our time.

- And I'm not asking you to believe me in total.

I am asking you to seriously do enough homework

that you can go out in through the public record,

through the congressional records,

find out who's voting for what and go from there.

Do your own program, do your own agenda

and do your own speaking out

and if enough of us to do this,

there is some saving grace

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