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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:14,068 --> 00:00:16,172 OK, OK. 2 00:00:16,275 --> 00:00:18,482 Bit more wrinkly than I'd have thought. 3 00:00:18,586 --> 00:00:20,068 Do I have to? 4 00:00:20,172 --> 00:00:23,482 It's not quite as bad as I thought it was going to be. 5 00:00:23,586 --> 00:00:25,275 Like maybe like a slug. 6 00:00:25,379 --> 00:00:27,689 Oh. Hmm. 7 00:00:29,827 --> 00:00:32,241 Narrator: I'm Laura Dodsworth and I'm an artist 8 00:00:32,344 --> 00:00:36,758 working on a project about our most intimate body part. 9 00:00:36,862 --> 00:00:39,551 In the past I've attracted controversy with my work 10 00:00:39,655 --> 00:00:42,724 by photographing and writing about penises and breasts, 11 00:00:42,827 --> 00:00:45,586 now I'm ready for the last taboo. 12 00:00:46,689 --> 00:00:48,862 I'm asking 100 women to get naked 13 00:00:48,965 --> 00:00:50,689 and talk about their vaginas 14 00:00:50,793 --> 00:00:52,586 and I'm going to take part too. 15 00:00:53,413 --> 00:00:55,068 I'm photographing their vulvas, 16 00:00:55,172 --> 00:00:56,896 that's the part on the outside 17 00:00:57,862 --> 00:00:59,241 and interviewing them 18 00:00:59,344 --> 00:01:01,551 about how their vaginas have shaped their lives. 19 00:01:02,862 --> 00:01:04,586 It's a part of ourselves that we don't talk about, 20 00:01:04,689 --> 00:01:07,379 understand or even look at. 21 00:01:07,482 --> 00:01:09,551 It's time to see what's really down there 22 00:01:09,655 --> 00:01:11,482 and how it defines us. 23 00:01:11,586 --> 00:01:12,862 Woman: Lady garden. 24 00:01:12,965 --> 00:01:13,896 Woman: Fanny. 25 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:15,000 Woman: I say pussy. 26 00:01:15,103 --> 00:01:16,137 Woman: Pussy. Woman: Pussy. 27 00:01:16,241 --> 00:01:17,896 Woman: I like the word vagina. Woman: Vagina, vulva. 28 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:19,344 Woman: Vulva. Woman: Privates. 29 00:01:19,448 --> 00:01:21,068 Woman: Front bottom and possibly fanny. 30 00:01:21,172 --> 00:01:22,137 Woman: Fanny. 31 00:01:22,241 --> 00:01:23,931 Woman: Foo foos, la-las, and minis and things. 32 00:01:24,034 --> 00:01:25,137 Woman: Front door of happiness. 33 00:01:25,241 --> 00:01:26,241 Woman: The rose cupcake. 34 00:01:26,344 --> 00:01:27,482 Woman: Cunt. Woman: Cunt. 35 00:01:27,586 --> 00:01:28,793 - I call it my beautiful cunt. 36 00:01:42,862 --> 00:01:46,551 - The vagina is such a magnificent thing, 37 00:01:46,655 --> 00:01:48,620 it does so many amazing things, 38 00:01:48,724 --> 00:01:52,724 including like giving birth to like a whole new people. 39 00:01:54,965 --> 00:01:57,206 - Growing up, I never looked at my vulva 40 00:01:57,310 --> 00:02:00,448 because there was no need to, I just washed it. 41 00:02:00,551 --> 00:02:02,931 When I did eventually look at it, 42 00:02:03,034 --> 00:02:06,379 I really felt like a huge weight had been lifted from me. 43 00:02:07,551 --> 00:02:11,793 - There's still a lot of shame around the vagina, 44 00:02:11,896 --> 00:02:14,206 I think it starts in school, 45 00:02:14,310 --> 00:02:17,310 boys are taught about wet dreams and erections 46 00:02:17,413 --> 00:02:20,793 and the female equivalent is about periods. 47 00:02:21,620 --> 00:02:23,448 We do bleed as well, 48 00:02:23,551 --> 00:02:27,275 but we also have the equivalent of an erection and a wet dream. 49 00:02:27,379 --> 00:02:31,137 - The penis is this really funny appendage at one end 50 00:02:31,241 --> 00:02:33,310 and very powerful and like dominating 51 00:02:33,413 --> 00:02:34,689 on the other end, 52 00:02:34,793 --> 00:02:37,034 but nobody wants to think about a vulva, 53 00:02:37,137 --> 00:02:39,758 no one wants to think about a vagina, it's like ugh, gross. 54 00:02:41,689 --> 00:02:43,724 When you tell me you're ready, I'll take the photograph. 55 00:02:43,827 --> 00:02:45,206 - Yes, ready. - Ready? OK. 56 00:02:45,310 --> 00:02:46,379 - Yeah. 57 00:02:49,068 --> 00:02:51,000 Narrator: As well as taking photos, 58 00:02:51,103 --> 00:02:53,448 I'm interviewing women about every aspect of their vaginas 59 00:02:53,551 --> 00:02:55,206 from pleasure to pain. 60 00:02:59,896 --> 00:03:01,517 That's alright. 61 00:03:03,448 --> 00:03:05,793 It's different seeing it like that, 62 00:03:05,896 --> 00:03:07,896 but it's fine. 63 00:03:10,827 --> 00:03:12,517 It's mine, it's fine. 64 00:03:16,551 --> 00:03:18,482 Woman: I wear my pubic hair au naturel. 65 00:03:18,586 --> 00:03:20,965 Woman: It's neat and tidy, I keep it reasonably short. 66 00:03:21,068 --> 00:03:22,896 Woman: I'm sporting a full-on Afro right now. 67 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:24,241 Woman: [laughs] Like bald. 68 00:03:24,344 --> 00:03:26,172 Woman: When you get the back and the sides shaved, you know, 69 00:03:26,275 --> 00:03:27,448 like level three trim. 70 00:03:27,551 --> 00:03:29,137 Woman: I've always liked pubic hair. 71 00:03:29,241 --> 00:03:30,482 Woman: It's there for a reason, 72 00:03:30,586 --> 00:03:31,862 it's there to keep bacteria out. 73 00:03:31,965 --> 00:03:34,275 - Usually I'm bald and I like that. 74 00:03:34,379 --> 00:03:37,206 I have a bald patch in the middle, 75 00:03:38,379 --> 00:03:40,103 because of my operation. 76 00:03:40,965 --> 00:03:42,758 You know, trim around it. 77 00:03:42,862 --> 00:03:45,413 I'm actually thinking about making it blonde one side. 78 00:03:45,517 --> 00:03:47,551 I literally have not done anything 79 00:03:47,655 --> 00:03:51,586 in terms of grooming to my vagina in maybe two years. 80 00:03:51,689 --> 00:03:54,655 Occasionally my boyfriend will help me 81 00:03:54,758 --> 00:03:58,000 when I ask him to with his clippers. 82 00:03:59,862 --> 00:04:02,689 Which involve me like screaming at him 83 00:04:02,793 --> 00:04:04,689 'cause I thought he was going to cut off my clit. 84 00:04:04,793 --> 00:04:06,586 But he did a really great job 85 00:04:06,689 --> 00:04:08,586 and he was very calm whilst he was doing it, he's like, 86 00:04:08,689 --> 00:04:10,724 "I'm just going under here now just so you know, 87 00:04:10,827 --> 00:04:12,000 "just, can you just like 88 00:04:12,103 --> 00:04:13,551 "spread them a little bit further apart." 89 00:04:13,655 --> 00:04:15,241 I'm like, "You're such a good guy," 90 00:04:15,344 --> 00:04:18,103 but we tended to avoid that little grooming ritual 91 00:04:18,206 --> 00:04:20,862 just because it's too stressful for me. [chuckles] 92 00:04:24,896 --> 00:04:27,862 The clitoris, it's at the top I think, 93 00:04:27,965 --> 00:04:31,137 I feel a bit awkward answering this. 94 00:04:34,172 --> 00:04:36,482 Woman: It's not just the little bit that you see, 95 00:04:36,586 --> 00:04:40,379 it's a huge, great big elaborate creature. 96 00:04:41,793 --> 00:04:44,310 - If we knew more about the clitoris 97 00:04:44,413 --> 00:04:45,862 or talked more about it, 98 00:04:45,965 --> 00:04:47,620 like the fact that it's got 99 00:04:47,724 --> 00:04:51,310 50 times more nerve endings than the penis, 100 00:04:51,413 --> 00:04:53,793 it's a lovely, sensitive, 101 00:04:53,896 --> 00:04:56,689 powerful piece of our anatomy 102 00:04:56,793 --> 00:05:00,310 that is really misunderstood 103 00:05:00,413 --> 00:05:03,655 'cause you don't see visual representations of it. 104 00:05:03,758 --> 00:05:06,758 - It actually is pretty much the same size as a penis. 105 00:05:06,862 --> 00:05:09,482 There's obviously the little bulb, the little button, 106 00:05:09,586 --> 00:05:12,068 but then there are these kind of extended parts 107 00:05:12,172 --> 00:05:13,758 that go into the body 108 00:05:13,862 --> 00:05:16,517 so we don't see it, that's made of erectile tissue 109 00:05:16,620 --> 00:05:18,275 and when aroused, 110 00:05:18,379 --> 00:05:20,896 kind of engorges and grips the vaginal wall. 111 00:05:22,034 --> 00:05:23,724 Woman: There's a fear around the clitoris 112 00:05:23,827 --> 00:05:25,862 because most men don't know where to find it 113 00:05:25,965 --> 00:05:28,000 and if they do, they don't know what to do with it. 114 00:05:38,793 --> 00:05:42,827 - There is a lot of shame still around about vaginas 115 00:05:42,931 --> 00:05:44,275 and the slut stuff. 116 00:05:44,379 --> 00:05:48,344 "She has this messy cunt, it bleeds, 117 00:05:48,448 --> 00:05:50,275 "it isn't nice, 118 00:05:50,379 --> 00:05:52,379 "it must be kept under control 119 00:05:52,482 --> 00:05:55,000 "because also we know somewhere, 120 00:05:55,103 --> 00:05:57,275 "she can have a lot of pleasure 121 00:05:57,379 --> 00:05:59,379 "and we don't want women to have that." 122 00:05:59,482 --> 00:06:01,793 I love to wank 123 00:06:01,896 --> 00:06:03,620 and I always have 124 00:06:03,724 --> 00:06:07,137 and hopefully I always will until my dying day. 125 00:06:10,241 --> 00:06:12,793 Woman: My favourite time for masturbating 126 00:06:12,896 --> 00:06:14,310 is when I'm in the bath. 127 00:06:14,413 --> 00:06:16,172 Woman: I just have to feel completely relaxed 128 00:06:16,275 --> 00:06:18,862 and that's often just after I've changed my bed sheets 129 00:06:18,965 --> 00:06:20,379 so it smells clean... 130 00:06:20,482 --> 00:06:22,344 Woman: I like feeling the water all around my body 131 00:06:22,448 --> 00:06:24,931 and so my clitoris is kind of there for the taking. 132 00:06:25,034 --> 00:06:27,034 Woman: I prefer to masturbate first thing in the morning 133 00:06:27,137 --> 00:06:29,551 when I wake up or the evening before I go to sleep. 134 00:06:29,655 --> 00:06:33,137 Woman: Outside in the woods. The breeze, smell the flowers. 135 00:06:33,241 --> 00:06:35,000 Woman: I like to masturbate in my bed. 136 00:06:35,103 --> 00:06:36,793 Woman: In my bed, in my own space. 137 00:06:36,896 --> 00:06:38,551 Woman: Mid afternoon, sunshine, nice weather. 138 00:06:38,655 --> 00:06:40,758 Woman: Candles on or lights. 139 00:06:40,862 --> 00:06:42,103 Woman: Good ambience. 140 00:06:42,206 --> 00:06:43,379 Woman: Plumps itself up 141 00:06:43,482 --> 00:06:45,068 and is kind of like, "Come and play with me." 142 00:06:45,172 --> 00:06:46,896 Woman: The perfect way to start or finish your day, 143 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:48,931 sometimes twice a day. 144 00:06:53,655 --> 00:06:57,206 - I think there's a lot of shame attached to self-pleasure, 145 00:07:01,517 --> 00:07:02,586 but actually, 146 00:07:02,689 --> 00:07:04,689 if you don't understand what you like for yourself, 147 00:07:04,793 --> 00:07:06,758 how do you communicate that to a partner? 148 00:07:09,896 --> 00:07:11,689 - I want to be really frank with you 149 00:07:11,793 --> 00:07:13,482 because I really feel like even though 150 00:07:13,586 --> 00:07:15,896 I'm finding this really hard, I'm embarrassed by it 151 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:17,689 and I'm worried about who's going to see it, 152 00:07:17,793 --> 00:07:19,000 at the same time, 153 00:07:19,103 --> 00:07:21,137 I feel like those feelings are wrong 154 00:07:21,241 --> 00:07:23,965 and that society's understanding 155 00:07:24,068 --> 00:07:28,034 of women and masturbating is wrong. 156 00:07:30,689 --> 00:07:32,482 Woman: The average orgasm for a woman 157 00:07:32,586 --> 00:07:35,000 is like up to 11 to 20 seconds, 158 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:38,482 men, it's like five or six seconds. 159 00:07:50,931 --> 00:07:52,965 [thunder rumbling] 160 00:07:53,068 --> 00:07:55,275 Woman: When it's on its way, 161 00:07:55,379 --> 00:07:59,689 it's kind of like you can hear the thunder in the distance 162 00:07:59,793 --> 00:08:03,689 and you know it's getting closer so it's not a surprise, 163 00:08:03,793 --> 00:08:05,551 I can feel it building. 164 00:08:06,827 --> 00:08:09,034 Woman: You get this sort of, it's almost like sparking 165 00:08:09,137 --> 00:08:13,379 and electricity like bouncing around. 166 00:08:13,482 --> 00:08:16,655 Woman: All of these neurons and synapses 167 00:08:16,758 --> 00:08:19,517 making so many different connections 168 00:08:19,620 --> 00:08:23,103 and the vulva itself is the hub. 169 00:08:23,206 --> 00:08:24,862 Well, look at the smile as big as my face 170 00:08:24,965 --> 00:08:26,482 just talking about it. 171 00:08:28,620 --> 00:08:30,586 Woman: I'm role-playing things in my head. 172 00:08:30,689 --> 00:08:34,000 Woman: My cunt goes slippery and slidey and juicy. 173 00:08:34,103 --> 00:08:38,413 Suddenly the cells will become on fire 174 00:08:38,517 --> 00:08:40,862 and I feel the run down through the body 175 00:08:40,965 --> 00:08:42,793 and then it always, for me it's the toes, 176 00:08:42,896 --> 00:08:44,310 it's in the toes, it's like this... 177 00:08:44,413 --> 00:08:46,344 [makes explosion sound] 178 00:08:46,448 --> 00:08:49,586 You get this involuntary bucking, you know, 179 00:08:49,689 --> 00:08:51,448 that right before you're going to go 180 00:08:51,551 --> 00:08:52,793 and it's like oh... 181 00:08:52,896 --> 00:08:55,310 Woman: Your whole body is pulsating. 182 00:08:55,413 --> 00:08:57,172 Woman: Everything's clamping... 183 00:08:57,275 --> 00:08:59,103 Woman: A lot of colour and... 184 00:08:59,206 --> 00:09:00,793 - Often I go deaf. 185 00:09:00,896 --> 00:09:03,172 [cross-talking] 186 00:09:05,620 --> 00:09:07,482 Woman: It's almost like an overload. 187 00:09:07,586 --> 00:09:08,827 It's beyond words. 188 00:09:09,931 --> 00:09:12,241 [moaning] 189 00:09:14,241 --> 00:09:16,862 It's just one. 190 00:09:26,724 --> 00:09:28,551 Woman: When you're like wiping yourself 191 00:09:28,655 --> 00:09:30,551 and like you can see like the colours. 192 00:09:30,655 --> 00:09:32,275 Woman: It can be painful... 193 00:09:32,379 --> 00:09:34,551 [cross-talking] 194 00:09:34,655 --> 00:09:36,551 Woman: ..but it doesn't smell disgusting. 195 00:09:36,655 --> 00:09:38,758 Woman: My whole body starts to feel heavy 196 00:09:38,862 --> 00:09:40,034 and exhausted. 197 00:09:40,137 --> 00:09:41,758 Woman: I feel a contracting muscle... 198 00:09:41,862 --> 00:09:44,000 Woman: It feels like a big punch in the stomach. 199 00:09:44,103 --> 00:09:45,482 Woman: Carnage. [laughs] 200 00:09:45,586 --> 00:09:46,793 Woman: Different textures. 201 00:09:46,896 --> 00:09:49,379 Woman: Sometimes it's like a light red like fresh blood 202 00:09:49,482 --> 00:09:52,000 and other times, it's a darker, more congealed blood. 203 00:09:52,103 --> 00:09:54,344 Woman: I was always grateful that I was getting my period, 204 00:09:54,448 --> 00:09:56,172 I was always grateful that it was coming. 205 00:09:56,275 --> 00:09:58,034 Woman: Hate them, absolutely dread them. 206 00:09:58,137 --> 00:10:00,206 Woman: Almost like a feeling of being turned on... 207 00:10:00,310 --> 00:10:01,827 Woman: I don't like the feeling of tampons. 208 00:10:01,931 --> 00:10:03,862 Woman: I'm very happy with my moon cup. 209 00:10:03,965 --> 00:10:07,275 which I now carry with me all the time. 210 00:10:07,379 --> 00:10:09,241 - I think the worst thing about having your period 211 00:10:09,344 --> 00:10:11,103 is the fact that you can smell your period. 212 00:10:11,206 --> 00:10:12,655 And you're just sitting there like, 213 00:10:12,758 --> 00:10:14,896 "Oh, my fucking god, I've just come on my period." 214 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:17,172 And the person next to me can clearly smell my period, 215 00:10:17,275 --> 00:10:19,275 and then like a dog sniffs you in the crotch... 216 00:10:19,379 --> 00:10:20,379 [dog barks] 217 00:10:20,482 --> 00:10:22,896 ..and you're just like... 218 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:24,586 - I think a tampon's quite painful 219 00:10:24,689 --> 00:10:26,551 'cause I can remember everybody in school saying, 220 00:10:26,655 --> 00:10:28,137 "Oh, oh, it feels like sex." 221 00:10:28,241 --> 00:10:30,413 I'm like, "Well, if that feels like sex, 222 00:10:30,517 --> 00:10:32,068 "I'm never having sex." 223 00:10:36,931 --> 00:10:38,172 - Free bleeding is basically 224 00:10:38,275 --> 00:10:40,655 where you just decide to not wear a tampon 225 00:10:40,758 --> 00:10:45,241 or a sanitary towel or anything to stop the blood. 226 00:10:45,344 --> 00:10:47,482 Having your period is totally normal, 227 00:10:47,586 --> 00:10:49,206 like it's something that's really expected 228 00:10:49,310 --> 00:10:52,034 so why should I have to feel so self-conscious? 229 00:10:53,172 --> 00:10:54,482 - In the Asian community 230 00:10:54,586 --> 00:10:58,827 there is a huge taboo around periods generally. 231 00:11:00,206 --> 00:11:03,586 I remember being on a period and going into the kitchen 232 00:11:03,689 --> 00:11:05,931 and I was told not to 233 00:11:06,034 --> 00:11:08,413 because my period would spoil the food 234 00:11:08,517 --> 00:11:10,275 and I was really confused 235 00:11:10,379 --> 00:11:12,310 because my period's there, the food's there, 236 00:11:12,413 --> 00:11:14,241 don't know how it would spoil it. 237 00:11:17,724 --> 00:11:22,724 I got my period when I was 12 on Christmas Eve. 238 00:11:22,827 --> 00:11:25,551 I got them when I was nine years old. 239 00:11:27,206 --> 00:11:28,517 It was really exciting. 240 00:11:28,620 --> 00:11:30,965 Ran to the top of the step, stairs and shouted, 241 00:11:31,068 --> 00:11:32,344 "I've started." 242 00:11:32,448 --> 00:11:34,241 I think like my knickers were still round my ankles 243 00:11:34,344 --> 00:11:36,586 and I was like, "Mum, Mum, I'm bleeding." 244 00:11:36,689 --> 00:11:40,310 My mother said, "Oh, oh, I'm so sorry dear." 245 00:11:40,413 --> 00:11:43,034 And it was quite a special time in my house. 246 00:11:43,137 --> 00:11:45,586 - I was 13 when I had my first period. 247 00:11:45,689 --> 00:11:47,724 I remember feeling devastated. 248 00:11:47,827 --> 00:11:50,586 It was like well, now there's no hope. 249 00:11:50,689 --> 00:11:52,206 I don't get on with my vagina 250 00:11:52,310 --> 00:11:54,896 at that time of the month, we're not friends. 251 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:56,724 It gets quiet 252 00:11:56,827 --> 00:11:59,896 and then it gets angry and then it does all the pain. 253 00:12:00,827 --> 00:12:02,827 When I'm in the middle of my cycle, 254 00:12:02,931 --> 00:12:05,275 so I'm assuming when I would be ovulating, 255 00:12:06,862 --> 00:12:09,172 it's quite a different story. 256 00:12:09,275 --> 00:12:12,724 It's much more interested in sex, penetrative sex. 257 00:12:16,758 --> 00:12:18,896 - I tend to find I have kind of two times of the month 258 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:21,413 when I'm sort of most interested. 259 00:12:22,551 --> 00:12:25,448 One is around about ovulation which, you know, 260 00:12:25,551 --> 00:12:27,862 just biologically makes complete sense 261 00:12:27,965 --> 00:12:29,379 'cause it's when your body's going, 262 00:12:29,482 --> 00:12:31,034 "It's baby time." 263 00:12:31,137 --> 00:12:32,551 But I also have a time 264 00:12:32,655 --> 00:12:34,517 usually a couple of days before I bleed as well 265 00:12:34,620 --> 00:12:35,965 and my hubby's always a bit surprised 266 00:12:36,068 --> 00:12:37,172 'cause he's always a bit like, 267 00:12:37,275 --> 00:12:38,896 "Aren't you about to have your period?" 268 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:40,517 I'm like, "Yeah, and?" [chuckles] 269 00:12:40,620 --> 00:12:42,517 And even just now and again, 270 00:12:42,620 --> 00:12:47,137 day three of bleeding can be quite arousing. 271 00:12:48,827 --> 00:12:50,758 - Can you lie down in this space? 272 00:12:53,241 --> 00:12:54,586 How do you want my legs? 273 00:12:54,689 --> 00:12:56,000 Just relax them to the side, 274 00:12:56,103 --> 00:12:58,793 just let them flop in a way it feels comfortable. 275 00:12:58,896 --> 00:13:01,586 Looking very yoga'ey, that's all good. 276 00:13:06,827 --> 00:13:08,758 There she is. 277 00:13:09,655 --> 00:13:11,655 God, it is so pretty, isn't it? 278 00:13:13,413 --> 00:13:18,482 My vulva looks and reminds me of a pink cupcake 279 00:13:18,586 --> 00:13:22,448 because it's very pink and plump 280 00:13:22,551 --> 00:13:25,310 and where the labia and clitoris are, 281 00:13:25,413 --> 00:13:29,344 it looks as though someone's piped layers of pink icing. 282 00:13:30,793 --> 00:13:33,758 There's a little mole to the left of my labia 283 00:13:33,862 --> 00:13:35,965 which reminds me of a little chocolate chip 284 00:13:36,068 --> 00:13:38,689 that's just been popped on the top of the cupcake. 285 00:13:38,793 --> 00:13:40,758 The penis is this knife 286 00:13:40,862 --> 00:13:45,241 that is cutting into the layers of the rose velvet. 287 00:13:50,275 --> 00:13:54,793 It's kind of slicing through, cutting up the cake 288 00:13:54,896 --> 00:13:58,448 which means it's sort of almost disintegrating, 289 00:13:58,551 --> 00:14:01,310 it's not in its previous solid form 290 00:14:01,413 --> 00:14:05,241 which I think plays on my wanting to be ruined in a way 291 00:14:05,344 --> 00:14:07,000 and sort of fucked up. 292 00:14:07,103 --> 00:14:12,034 And it ends up just being this messy mixture at the end 293 00:14:12,137 --> 00:14:16,793 which is when I'm at my most kind of shaky, in a good way, 294 00:14:16,896 --> 00:14:20,103 vulnerable state because I'm completely done 295 00:14:20,206 --> 00:14:24,655 and wobbling and I'm just a mess of rose velvet. 296 00:14:29,172 --> 00:14:35,137 - At 26, I met a skinhead who absolutely ruined me. 297 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:42,103 I had to go home the day after and Google what just happened. 298 00:14:42,206 --> 00:14:45,931 He was the one that first discovered that I could squirt, 299 00:14:46,034 --> 00:14:48,517 I didn't even think sex like that was out there, 300 00:14:48,620 --> 00:14:50,689 I always thought I had really good sex. 301 00:14:52,068 --> 00:14:54,827 A clitoral orgasm is different from a penetrative orgasm 302 00:14:54,931 --> 00:14:56,172 is different from a squirt. 303 00:14:56,275 --> 00:14:57,586 [moaning] 304 00:14:57,689 --> 00:15:00,241 There was no going back from that moment, 305 00:15:01,206 --> 00:15:03,517 then it was always wanting to chase 306 00:15:03,620 --> 00:15:06,689 that kind of sex and the squirt. 307 00:15:08,448 --> 00:15:10,103 - The privilege of being allowed 308 00:15:10,206 --> 00:15:14,724 in or near someone's vagina, it's... 309 00:15:15,862 --> 00:15:17,137 She needs to be vulnerable, 310 00:15:17,241 --> 00:15:18,965 she needs to be accepting of the situation, 311 00:15:19,068 --> 00:15:20,310 but it's so intimate 312 00:15:20,413 --> 00:15:21,965 but it's more intimate than anything else 313 00:15:22,068 --> 00:15:24,724 because you're going inside somebody, 314 00:15:24,827 --> 00:15:28,172 Penetrative sex is... That's an enormous deal, 315 00:15:28,275 --> 00:15:30,241 that's not a small thing. 316 00:15:31,448 --> 00:15:33,896 But we live in a society that doesn't think that way, 317 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:35,068 we live in a society 318 00:15:35,172 --> 00:15:39,172 that treats women entirely like a cock pocket. 319 00:15:42,034 --> 00:15:45,137 OK, that's that done, thank you very much. 320 00:15:45,241 --> 00:15:48,206 Yeah, if you could get into a really relaxed position there. 321 00:15:53,241 --> 00:15:54,896 Brilliant, OK, cool. 322 00:16:00,517 --> 00:16:01,758 Wow. 323 00:16:02,931 --> 00:16:05,413 It's different to looking in a mirror, isn't it? 324 00:16:05,517 --> 00:16:08,000 It is very different from looking in the mirror. 325 00:16:09,344 --> 00:16:12,000 You can tell it picks up the scars far more easily. 326 00:16:13,862 --> 00:16:15,275 How do you feel about it? 327 00:16:15,379 --> 00:16:17,241 OK, it's not perfect, 328 00:16:18,862 --> 00:16:22,413 doesn't need to be, you know. 329 00:16:22,517 --> 00:16:24,965 I still really like it, it does me, 330 00:16:25,068 --> 00:16:26,965 it does what I need it to do. 331 00:16:30,103 --> 00:16:32,931 I grew up in a pretty rough town, 332 00:16:33,862 --> 00:16:35,551 you know, a lot of violence going on 333 00:16:35,655 --> 00:16:37,275 and a lot of macho culture going on, 334 00:16:37,379 --> 00:16:38,620 so at eight years old, 335 00:16:38,724 --> 00:16:39,931 I came to the realisation 336 00:16:40,034 --> 00:16:42,068 that while I was a boy, 337 00:16:42,172 --> 00:16:44,068 I should have been born a girl. 338 00:16:49,068 --> 00:16:53,103 My penis itself felt like, very much like a foreign body, 339 00:16:53,206 --> 00:16:59,000 it was an alien object that was attached to me for some reason. 340 00:17:02,103 --> 00:17:05,862 My vagina is just as sensitive as the penis before it. 341 00:17:06,862 --> 00:17:08,689 My clitoris is made up of essentially 342 00:17:08,793 --> 00:17:10,689 a section of the head of the penis 343 00:17:10,793 --> 00:17:15,517 and, um yeah, it's awesome, the sex is incredible. 344 00:17:18,586 --> 00:17:20,689 - My generation are realising 345 00:17:20,793 --> 00:17:23,034 that having a vagina or having a penis 346 00:17:23,137 --> 00:17:25,379 doesn't necessarily define your gender 347 00:17:25,482 --> 00:17:27,931 and it's much more about, you know, 348 00:17:28,034 --> 00:17:29,689 how you identify and how you feel 349 00:17:29,793 --> 00:17:31,310 and it's much more personal choice. 350 00:17:34,448 --> 00:17:37,448 Like the label 'virgin' I don't like. 351 00:17:38,689 --> 00:17:41,000 It's just you have had it or you haven't had it. 352 00:17:42,103 --> 00:17:43,413 - I told my mum, 353 00:17:43,517 --> 00:17:46,137 I actually sent her a text, it literally just said, 354 00:17:46,241 --> 00:17:49,000 "So Mum, I've got something to tell you, 355 00:17:49,103 --> 00:17:50,965 "promise not to be mad, 356 00:17:51,068 --> 00:17:53,551 "but I just lost my virginity." 357 00:17:55,034 --> 00:17:58,724 And she took ages to respond and she was like, 358 00:17:58,827 --> 00:18:03,413 "I'm crying and I feel very emotionally overwhelmed, 359 00:18:03,517 --> 00:18:08,000 "but I'm glad that you feel that you trust me enough 360 00:18:08,103 --> 00:18:12,448 "and can be open enough with me to share that experience." 361 00:18:14,137 --> 00:18:17,793 - I was 15, I was with my boyfriend 362 00:18:17,896 --> 00:18:20,931 and it was in his single bed. 363 00:18:21,034 --> 00:18:22,862 He's got like a cartoon duvet. 364 00:18:23,827 --> 00:18:26,068 And it was over within about 30 seconds, 365 00:18:26,172 --> 00:18:27,655 it was a few pumps and done 366 00:18:27,758 --> 00:18:29,137 because it was his first time too 367 00:18:29,241 --> 00:18:31,068 and he was probably super nervous 368 00:18:31,172 --> 00:18:34,896 and then we had sex six more times on that sleepover 369 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:37,310 'cause I was like, "We've got to get good at this." 370 00:18:40,689 --> 00:18:43,413 - I'm 19, I'm still a virgin. 371 00:18:43,517 --> 00:18:45,551 My friends are quite mixed, 372 00:18:45,655 --> 00:18:47,862 a lot of them still are virgins. 373 00:18:48,862 --> 00:18:50,551 I don't have a wish list, 374 00:18:51,379 --> 00:18:52,482 I don't want to set 375 00:18:52,586 --> 00:18:54,517 my expectations of anything too high 376 00:18:54,620 --> 00:18:57,758 and I just think, if it happens, it happens. 377 00:18:58,793 --> 00:19:01,517 I think the young men I slept with, 378 00:19:01,620 --> 00:19:02,965 or had done anything with, 379 00:19:03,068 --> 00:19:05,275 had basically just an idea 380 00:19:05,379 --> 00:19:09,620 that there was one type of vulva and one sort of uniform look 381 00:19:09,724 --> 00:19:13,482 as to how women look down there 382 00:19:14,655 --> 00:19:18,275 and I think they had a slightly warped idea 383 00:19:18,379 --> 00:19:22,620 of how they're meant to be, like, treated. 384 00:19:23,724 --> 00:19:25,586 Obviously in a lot of sex, 385 00:19:25,689 --> 00:19:31,413 that you see in porn, it's very hard, very intense, 386 00:19:31,517 --> 00:19:34,482 and especially when you're a young teenager 387 00:19:34,586 --> 00:19:36,862 and you're having your first experiences with sex, 388 00:19:36,965 --> 00:19:38,896 some people might not want to 389 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:41,896 go like hard and fast the first few times, 390 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:45,068 especially when you're like, "What is this?" 391 00:19:52,551 --> 00:19:54,689 You don't really get taught about the mechanics of sex, 392 00:19:54,793 --> 00:19:57,482 you just get taught about, you know, how a child is made 393 00:19:57,586 --> 00:20:01,482 through sex rather than any sort of care or compassion 394 00:20:01,586 --> 00:20:04,827 or respect for each other. 395 00:20:04,931 --> 00:20:09,241 So I think that yeah, through watching porn like that, 396 00:20:09,344 --> 00:20:11,344 I think a lot of previous partners 397 00:20:11,448 --> 00:20:13,241 didn't really understand 398 00:20:13,344 --> 00:20:15,517 that it was very much a two way street 399 00:20:15,620 --> 00:20:17,655 and the myth of the female orgasm 400 00:20:17,758 --> 00:20:20,310 wasn't even a consideration. 401 00:20:22,275 --> 00:20:24,103 - Porn is an enormous thing, 402 00:20:24,206 --> 00:20:25,482 there's amazing, beautiful, 403 00:20:25,586 --> 00:20:27,551 artistic queer porn that's happening 404 00:20:27,655 --> 00:20:31,241 and then there's stuff which is clearly really abusive 405 00:20:31,344 --> 00:20:34,310 and driving rape culture. 406 00:20:34,413 --> 00:20:37,000 [moaning] 407 00:20:37,103 --> 00:20:39,724 The way in which you supposedly make a woman come in porn 408 00:20:39,827 --> 00:20:41,482 is definitely not, 409 00:20:41,586 --> 00:20:44,000 well maybe some women, but not for me anyway. 410 00:20:45,275 --> 00:20:47,724 - The women have been so degraded 411 00:20:47,827 --> 00:20:49,931 that it completely puts me off. 412 00:20:50,034 --> 00:20:52,034 Black women are pictured as animals 413 00:20:52,137 --> 00:20:55,413 and it's quite degrading in quite a racist way. 414 00:20:56,758 --> 00:20:58,724 Porn is very distorted 415 00:20:58,827 --> 00:21:02,068 and it's reinforcing the idea that your body as a woman 416 00:21:02,172 --> 00:21:04,000 is not enough the way that it is, 417 00:21:04,103 --> 00:21:05,758 that it needs to be changed. 418 00:21:05,862 --> 00:21:08,689 It made me feel like my vulva wasn't normal 419 00:21:08,793 --> 00:21:12,620 in its shape and in the pubic hairs 420 00:21:12,724 --> 00:21:15,068 and how... Like I grew so much, 421 00:21:15,172 --> 00:21:16,724 like it was abnormal for me. 422 00:21:16,827 --> 00:21:18,068 [moaning] 423 00:21:18,172 --> 00:21:22,137 - I find it difficult to feel truly satisfied watching porn 424 00:21:22,241 --> 00:21:24,551 because I don't know the circumstances 425 00:21:24,655 --> 00:21:26,862 and I want to check everyone, particularly the women, 426 00:21:26,965 --> 00:21:28,586 I want to check that she's OK. 427 00:21:30,827 --> 00:21:34,310 I do get off on watching a couple having sex 428 00:21:34,413 --> 00:21:37,448 and then having sex with someone myself at the same time. 429 00:21:37,551 --> 00:21:39,206 There's something quite animalistic 430 00:21:39,310 --> 00:21:42,344 about not making eye contact with each other, 431 00:21:42,448 --> 00:21:44,068 but just watching these two 432 00:21:44,172 --> 00:21:45,862 other essentially animals fucking. 433 00:21:47,206 --> 00:21:49,620 [moaning] 434 00:22:00,620 --> 00:22:03,172 Narrator: I'm photographing 100 women's vulvas, 435 00:22:03,275 --> 00:22:04,551 including my own, 436 00:22:04,655 --> 00:22:06,586 to help us see our bodies in a new way. 437 00:22:09,034 --> 00:22:10,379 When I started this project 438 00:22:10,482 --> 00:22:12,655 I wasn't prepared for the amount of pain and trauma 439 00:22:12,758 --> 00:22:14,103 I'd hear about. 440 00:22:19,172 --> 00:22:22,689 - I was raised in an evangelical Christian household, 441 00:22:22,793 --> 00:22:25,310 I just knew sex before marriage was wrong 442 00:22:25,413 --> 00:22:27,275 and I was taught that 443 00:22:27,379 --> 00:22:29,586 if you want to be free from sin, 444 00:22:29,689 --> 00:22:31,689 you don't even like open the door, 445 00:22:31,793 --> 00:22:33,172 you don't put a toe in. 446 00:22:35,413 --> 00:22:38,896 - In Islam, the vagina isn't really talked about. 447 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,344 There is still that stigma of like dirty vagina 448 00:22:41,448 --> 00:22:44,068 and that women should really keep their legs closed. 449 00:22:46,965 --> 00:22:50,034 - Growing up, I was completely scared of my vagina 450 00:22:50,137 --> 00:22:53,793 when I thought about it which was rare. 451 00:22:53,896 --> 00:23:00,482 It was a hugely scary portal to trouble. 452 00:23:01,862 --> 00:23:03,965 - I went to an Islamic boarding school, 453 00:23:04,068 --> 00:23:07,000 we had to wear the whole abaya, 454 00:23:07,103 --> 00:23:10,724 niqab, like everything, hijab, 24-7. 455 00:23:10,827 --> 00:23:13,103 Can't even have books from the outside world, 456 00:23:13,206 --> 00:23:15,137 there's no phones, no TV, no music. 457 00:23:16,241 --> 00:23:17,586 I was singing a song, 458 00:23:17,689 --> 00:23:19,172 a random song by Beyonce, 459 00:23:19,275 --> 00:23:21,172 a roommate casually came up to me and said, 460 00:23:21,275 --> 00:23:22,793 "You're going to hell for that." 461 00:23:23,793 --> 00:23:25,206 My first kind of big crush 462 00:23:25,310 --> 00:23:27,482 was Ron Weasley from Harry Potter, 463 00:23:27,586 --> 00:23:29,103 guilty as charged. 464 00:23:29,206 --> 00:23:31,482 And I remember having a poster up of him 465 00:23:31,586 --> 00:23:34,724 When I was about 12 and I felt it was so wrong, 466 00:23:34,827 --> 00:23:38,275 I took it down because I felt it was sinful. 467 00:23:38,379 --> 00:23:40,896 I didn't know what I was shutting myself off from, 468 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,448 but that door was firmly shut. 469 00:23:44,586 --> 00:23:48,172 There are some thoughts and some papers 470 00:23:48,275 --> 00:23:51,241 suggesting that a religious upbringing 471 00:23:51,344 --> 00:23:54,241 can have an effect on vulvar health, 472 00:23:54,344 --> 00:23:56,206 particularly the pelvic floor, 473 00:23:56,310 --> 00:23:58,241 and, and like vaginismus 474 00:23:58,344 --> 00:24:00,241 and like the pelvic floor just clenching up, 475 00:24:00,344 --> 00:24:05,379 as kind of like a psychogenic response to that shame. 476 00:24:05,482 --> 00:24:07,413 That it's literally like your muscles go, 477 00:24:07,517 --> 00:24:11,206 "Right, OK then, no thank you very much, not for us." 478 00:24:11,310 --> 00:24:13,586 And sometimes women find that 479 00:24:13,689 --> 00:24:16,034 when they try and strip those barriers down, 480 00:24:16,137 --> 00:24:18,137 the muscles do not get the message 481 00:24:18,241 --> 00:24:21,137 and I think that was definitely the case for me. 482 00:24:21,241 --> 00:24:23,655 My longest relationship was about two years 483 00:24:23,758 --> 00:24:28,103 and we never had penetrative sex. 484 00:24:28,206 --> 00:24:32,448 We tried once or twice but it just wasn't happening. 485 00:24:32,551 --> 00:24:35,724 There was no way and it was also extremely distressing as well, 486 00:24:35,827 --> 00:24:37,655 so I couldn't keep trying 487 00:24:37,758 --> 00:24:42,172 because it was such a horrible experience. 488 00:24:45,965 --> 00:24:48,000 But things are better now. 489 00:24:49,275 --> 00:24:50,448 Err... 490 00:24:53,241 --> 00:24:54,413 Sorry. 491 00:24:57,793 --> 00:24:58,827 Honestly I think I try 492 00:24:58,931 --> 00:25:00,620 not to think about that time very much 493 00:25:00,724 --> 00:25:03,241 because I'm feeling so much more positive now 494 00:25:03,344 --> 00:25:08,103 than I was now that that avenue has opened up to me. 495 00:25:08,206 --> 00:25:12,068 But I really felt like my quality of life was done for, 496 00:25:12,172 --> 00:25:14,068 really done for 497 00:25:14,172 --> 00:25:15,862 and that I wouldn't be loved, 498 00:25:15,965 --> 00:25:18,068 I wouldn't be able to be in a relationship, 499 00:25:18,172 --> 00:25:21,758 and that I wouldn't be able to be accepted. 500 00:25:24,896 --> 00:25:26,793 Yeah, it was dire. 501 00:25:30,241 --> 00:25:32,275 There were moments where 502 00:25:32,379 --> 00:25:34,586 I didn't know what I was going to live for 503 00:25:34,689 --> 00:25:36,344 and whether I wanted to. 504 00:25:45,827 --> 00:25:47,862 - My nickname is The Vagina Woman 505 00:25:47,965 --> 00:25:50,034 because I talk about vagina every single day. 506 00:25:51,344 --> 00:25:54,551 As a sexual health nurse, I talk about vaginas, 507 00:25:54,655 --> 00:25:56,827 it's like I'm talking about cup of tea. 508 00:25:58,448 --> 00:25:59,896 We talk about masturbations, 509 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,724 we talk about oral sex, we talk about anal sex, 510 00:26:02,827 --> 00:26:04,655 we talk about fisting, we talk about... 511 00:26:04,758 --> 00:26:07,655 You name it, every single thing that can go on 512 00:26:07,758 --> 00:26:10,586 in a sexual health clinic, we talk about it. 513 00:26:20,206 --> 00:26:22,000 So the morning I had FGM, 514 00:26:22,103 --> 00:26:23,758 it was like Christmas for me, 515 00:26:23,862 --> 00:26:27,724 imagine being seven years old and having a massive party 516 00:26:27,827 --> 00:26:30,344 and where you know there's a woman coming in 517 00:26:30,448 --> 00:26:31,896 to do your henna, 518 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,172 there's another woman there to do your hair. 519 00:26:34,275 --> 00:26:35,689 It was amazing 520 00:26:35,793 --> 00:26:38,344 and that's the first time I actually got a watch, 521 00:26:38,448 --> 00:26:40,034 so every time I look at the watch, 522 00:26:40,137 --> 00:26:41,620 I do remember those days. 523 00:26:43,068 --> 00:26:44,517 I felt the needle going in, 524 00:26:44,620 --> 00:26:48,103 after that, everything just went quiet. 525 00:26:50,310 --> 00:26:52,241 And she looked at me and said to me, 526 00:26:52,344 --> 00:26:54,000 "Now you are a woman." 527 00:26:54,827 --> 00:26:56,103 Once she left 528 00:26:56,206 --> 00:26:58,758 and the local anaesthetic was coming out of my system, 529 00:26:58,862 --> 00:27:03,103 I was burning and I remember screaming and just crying. 530 00:27:06,758 --> 00:27:08,068 We were very lucky 531 00:27:08,172 --> 00:27:11,689 because we had money to afford local anaesthetic. 532 00:27:11,793 --> 00:27:13,068 There are girls being cut 533 00:27:13,172 --> 00:27:16,551 without any medical assistance at all. 534 00:27:16,655 --> 00:27:21,310 My clitoris was removed and labia minora, labia majora 535 00:27:21,413 --> 00:27:24,344 and they stitched it all the way down 536 00:27:24,448 --> 00:27:26,310 until they left me a little hole 537 00:27:26,413 --> 00:27:28,448 that is no bigger than a matchstick. 538 00:27:30,310 --> 00:27:32,068 Producer: And you would only always have 539 00:27:32,172 --> 00:27:35,172 one little hole to urinate and menstruate through? 540 00:27:35,275 --> 00:27:36,275 Yeah. 541 00:27:39,862 --> 00:27:42,000 I was in hospital because of FGM 542 00:27:42,103 --> 00:27:44,965 from the age of 11 till I was 17 years old. 543 00:27:45,896 --> 00:27:47,965 My period was accumulating inside 544 00:27:48,068 --> 00:27:49,689 and it wasn't coming out. 545 00:27:50,517 --> 00:27:52,068 FGM took away my childhood. 546 00:27:53,758 --> 00:27:57,034 I was never that girl that was playing outside with her friends 547 00:27:57,137 --> 00:27:59,793 or going to go to the cinema with her friends 548 00:27:59,896 --> 00:28:01,655 'cause I was always in hospital. 549 00:28:03,344 --> 00:28:05,551 And it took away my chance to be a mother. 550 00:28:05,655 --> 00:28:07,931 Now I would never know what is it like 551 00:28:08,034 --> 00:28:09,793 to carry your own child. 552 00:28:13,137 --> 00:28:14,517 All of that was taken away 553 00:28:14,620 --> 00:28:17,793 to prove to my future husband that I'm a virgin. 554 00:28:25,931 --> 00:28:29,068 We know there's a lot of excuses of why FGM happens, 555 00:28:29,172 --> 00:28:32,241 but really FGM happens to control a women's sexuality. 556 00:28:32,344 --> 00:28:35,068 They think cutting a woman's clitoris and stitching her up 557 00:28:35,172 --> 00:28:37,379 will stop her sleeping around. 558 00:28:38,413 --> 00:28:39,965 Growing up to hear that, 559 00:28:40,068 --> 00:28:42,758 we didn't even thought about pleasure. 560 00:28:42,862 --> 00:28:44,448 But what was surprising for me 561 00:28:44,551 --> 00:28:46,620 was even though the clitoris has been cut, 562 00:28:46,724 --> 00:28:50,206 the rest of the clitoris is actually inside, 563 00:28:50,310 --> 00:28:53,206 women don't realise that actually the clitoris is inside, 564 00:28:53,310 --> 00:28:55,965 there's, the nerve is all around our vagina. 565 00:28:56,068 --> 00:28:59,068 So we just need to know what works for us. 566 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:01,344 As a woman who had FGM, 567 00:29:01,448 --> 00:29:03,689 do I have a really nice sex life? 568 00:29:03,793 --> 00:29:05,103 Yes, I do. 569 00:29:05,206 --> 00:29:06,620 Do I have orgasm? 570 00:29:07,448 --> 00:29:08,862 Yes, I do. 571 00:29:17,344 --> 00:29:20,137 I've got clients that enjoy the smell. 572 00:29:21,103 --> 00:29:22,517 They will be like, 573 00:29:22,620 --> 00:29:24,689 "Make sure you've worn your knickers all day." 574 00:29:26,896 --> 00:29:29,000 My cunt's a bit fishy. 575 00:29:29,103 --> 00:29:31,344 I'm going for it, crushed strawberries and cream. 576 00:29:32,413 --> 00:29:34,172 That's what my vagina smells like. 577 00:29:34,275 --> 00:29:36,379 Apparently my vagina smells different 578 00:29:36,482 --> 00:29:38,103 before I'm about to get my period. 579 00:29:38,206 --> 00:29:41,000 Woman: If I have a lot of sugar, a lot of dairy. 580 00:29:41,103 --> 00:29:42,724 Woman: Slight smell of [inaudible]. 581 00:29:42,827 --> 00:29:44,689 Woman: That changes the smell of my vagina. 582 00:29:44,793 --> 00:29:46,275 - There's a really big taboo 583 00:29:46,379 --> 00:29:48,241 around the word discharge. People think, 584 00:29:48,344 --> 00:29:49,551 "Oh, that's disgusting", 585 00:29:49,655 --> 00:29:51,379 or, "Oh, I don't get any discharge." 586 00:29:51,482 --> 00:29:53,310 You do, we all do. 587 00:29:53,413 --> 00:29:55,068 Like it's nothing to be embarrassed about. 588 00:29:55,172 --> 00:29:57,344 It changes throughout your life and your cycle 589 00:29:57,448 --> 00:30:01,068 and yes, I have discharge and my vulva looks moist. 590 00:30:01,172 --> 00:30:03,620 I...so I still struggle 591 00:30:03,724 --> 00:30:05,241 with the kind of more corporeal aspects of, 592 00:30:05,344 --> 00:30:06,655 of that kind of thing, 593 00:30:06,758 --> 00:30:10,551 I just feel like it's the same 594 00:30:10,655 --> 00:30:13,103 with the hair and stuff, like vaginas have a smell, 595 00:30:13,206 --> 00:30:15,103 vaginas have hair, it's a thing, 596 00:30:15,206 --> 00:30:18,172 like that's something that I'm still working on. 597 00:30:27,620 --> 00:30:30,379 - I was born in Ireland in 1975, 598 00:30:30,482 --> 00:30:31,827 so when I was growing up 599 00:30:31,931 --> 00:30:35,965 a lot of things around people, 600 00:30:36,068 --> 00:30:38,448 but particularly women, were silenced. 601 00:30:38,551 --> 00:30:39,965 You were just left with this kind of feeling 602 00:30:40,068 --> 00:30:42,827 of shame and misunderstanding. 603 00:30:47,655 --> 00:30:51,137 - My parents are really liberal, open people, 604 00:30:51,241 --> 00:30:52,517 they grew up in Brighton 605 00:30:52,620 --> 00:30:56,551 like in the '60s and '70s, like they're cool people, 606 00:30:56,655 --> 00:31:01,241 they always talked about how sex 607 00:31:01,344 --> 00:31:04,586 was a really important thing between two people, 608 00:31:04,689 --> 00:31:07,551 not that it had to be with one person forever, 609 00:31:07,655 --> 00:31:09,379 but just that the person 610 00:31:09,482 --> 00:31:10,793 you were having sex with had to... 611 00:31:10,896 --> 00:31:12,586 ..they had to mean something to you 612 00:31:12,689 --> 00:31:14,241 and you had to have feelings for them. 613 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,482 - So at about like seven, I was very, very switched on, 614 00:31:33,586 --> 00:31:36,758 I knew what I wanted to do, I saved, 615 00:31:36,862 --> 00:31:40,448 I worked to make sure that my life was ordered 616 00:31:40,551 --> 00:31:43,172 and then my world was turned upside down 617 00:31:43,275 --> 00:31:45,482 in a very unpleasant way 618 00:31:45,586 --> 00:31:48,413 because I was raped by someone I really trusted 619 00:31:48,517 --> 00:31:52,172 and that caused a huge amount of chaos and upset 620 00:31:52,275 --> 00:31:56,655 which at that age I really didn't know how to deal with. 621 00:31:56,758 --> 00:31:58,241 And not being able to talk about it 622 00:31:58,344 --> 00:32:00,896 meant no one else could help me deal with it either, 623 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,103 so you were just kind of left with that 624 00:32:03,206 --> 00:32:04,586 not knowing what it is 625 00:32:04,689 --> 00:32:07,068 and not really understanding what's just happened. 626 00:32:19,206 --> 00:32:21,896 So when I was 19 I was on holiday, 627 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:26,827 and I was raped by the manager of the hotel 628 00:32:26,931 --> 00:32:28,172 that I was staying in. 629 00:32:31,793 --> 00:32:33,241 And then I came back from the holiday 630 00:32:33,344 --> 00:32:35,827 and I just sort of brushed it under the carpet 631 00:32:35,931 --> 00:32:38,172 as a, "OK, well that probably wasn't a very good thing, 632 00:32:38,275 --> 00:32:39,862 "but just didn't think about it." 633 00:32:39,965 --> 00:32:43,000 And then as the years went by 634 00:32:43,103 --> 00:32:45,965 it just...it... I just started to realise 635 00:32:46,068 --> 00:32:48,275 that it was really affecting me in so many ways, 636 00:32:48,379 --> 00:32:52,034 my confidence levels just plummeted. 637 00:32:52,137 --> 00:32:56,000 When somebody's violated you in that way 638 00:32:56,103 --> 00:32:59,206 and just taken from you in that way, 639 00:32:59,310 --> 00:33:04,586 your self-worth is like I'm nothing. 640 00:33:04,689 --> 00:33:07,310 It can make you not want to be alive 641 00:33:07,413 --> 00:33:11,793 and that's how I felt for a long time, just like well, 642 00:33:11,896 --> 00:33:16,000 "If I died it wouldn't make any difference." 643 00:33:17,551 --> 00:33:20,379 I went from being a super confident, 644 00:33:20,482 --> 00:33:23,827 really happy young woman wearing low cut tops, 645 00:33:23,931 --> 00:33:25,310 loved my boobs, 646 00:33:25,413 --> 00:33:26,862 I thought they were the best thing ever 647 00:33:26,965 --> 00:33:31,068 to suddenly hating 648 00:33:31,172 --> 00:33:34,103 anything that was sexual about my body. 649 00:33:34,206 --> 00:33:37,310 In all of the warnings that were given as girls 650 00:33:37,413 --> 00:33:40,448 by our mothers and fathers, 651 00:33:40,551 --> 00:33:44,379 it's almost like you could expect something like this 652 00:33:44,482 --> 00:33:45,793 is going to happen 653 00:33:45,896 --> 00:33:47,517 and because you've been told about it, 654 00:33:47,620 --> 00:33:50,206 it is almost like well, then it is your fault. 655 00:33:50,310 --> 00:33:51,586 If I'd done something differently, 656 00:33:51,689 --> 00:33:52,793 if I'd not drunk, 657 00:33:52,896 --> 00:33:55,620 if I'd not said something or done something 658 00:33:55,724 --> 00:33:56,655 or been in a certain place 659 00:33:56,758 --> 00:33:58,275 would it have turned out differently? 660 00:33:58,379 --> 00:34:00,862 Those questions that go round and round in your head 661 00:34:00,965 --> 00:34:03,620 are the...they're the questions that ruin you. 662 00:34:05,172 --> 00:34:07,103 - You know, what happens at such a young age 663 00:34:07,206 --> 00:34:09,586 becomes such a part of you 664 00:34:09,689 --> 00:34:13,517 that you sort of don't know who you might have been without it. 665 00:34:13,620 --> 00:34:15,965 I just wish I could be normal, 666 00:34:16,068 --> 00:34:17,310 I just wish I knew what it was like 667 00:34:17,413 --> 00:34:21,724 to just be able to enjoy sex 668 00:34:21,827 --> 00:34:23,379 and even just silly things, 669 00:34:23,482 --> 00:34:25,965 like I don't really like watching films or TV programmes 670 00:34:26,068 --> 00:34:29,862 'cause so many of them have sexual assaults in them, 671 00:34:29,965 --> 00:34:31,034 like everyone keeps saying, 672 00:34:31,137 --> 00:34:32,482 "Oh, have you watched 'The Handmaid's Tale'?" 673 00:34:32,586 --> 00:34:35,137 and I'm like I can't, I can't, I can't watch it. 674 00:34:35,241 --> 00:34:41,172 Understanding how that feeling of violation 675 00:34:42,172 --> 00:34:43,896 must be turned around 676 00:34:45,034 --> 00:34:51,793 became something that energised me to learn, 677 00:34:51,896 --> 00:34:57,724 to understand you can't fix it, but you can kind of resolve it. 678 00:35:01,379 --> 00:35:05,551 I'm currently in a relationship and the sex is great, 679 00:35:05,655 --> 00:35:07,758 I feel completely differently about it, 680 00:35:07,862 --> 00:35:10,379 which is...oh, just such a relief, 681 00:35:10,482 --> 00:35:12,068 I just think it's so... 682 00:35:12,172 --> 00:35:15,551 I really was worried that this was me forever, 683 00:35:15,655 --> 00:35:17,551 I was just never going to enjoy sex 684 00:35:17,655 --> 00:35:20,206 and I am at the moment 685 00:35:20,310 --> 00:35:23,448 and I can't begin to describe how fantastic that is, 686 00:35:23,551 --> 00:35:27,068 I feel like I'm normal again and that's really nice. 687 00:35:28,758 --> 00:35:30,000 I promised myself 688 00:35:30,103 --> 00:35:36,793 that I wouldn't let the people who raped me 689 00:35:36,896 --> 00:35:40,241 take my present and my future. 690 00:36:10,965 --> 00:36:12,896 - Like every orgasm is different, 691 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:14,068 every birth is different. 692 00:36:14,172 --> 00:36:15,379 - I went in at the last minute 693 00:36:15,482 --> 00:36:17,620 'cause I didn't want, you know, too much interference. 694 00:36:17,724 --> 00:36:18,965 Every vulva's is different, 695 00:36:19,068 --> 00:36:20,620 every baby that emerges is different. 696 00:36:20,724 --> 00:36:21,931 - You have to sort of concentrate and focus 697 00:36:22,034 --> 00:36:23,965 and nothing else seems to matter. 698 00:36:24,068 --> 00:36:25,379 - And I just did what I was told. 699 00:36:25,482 --> 00:36:26,586 - And I was just throwing up all the time, 700 00:36:26,689 --> 00:36:28,931 like, the whole birth I was just pooed and threw up 701 00:36:29,034 --> 00:36:29,931 and pooed and threw up. 702 00:36:30,034 --> 00:36:31,344 - You just carry on, don't you? 703 00:36:31,448 --> 00:36:34,448 - The first time was really hard, 704 00:36:34,551 --> 00:36:37,000 and I tore and I had stitches. 705 00:36:37,103 --> 00:36:38,068 - I had a third-degree tear, 706 00:36:38,172 --> 00:36:41,172 I also had ventouse and forceps, so I had quite a lot done. 707 00:36:41,275 --> 00:36:43,724 - I had an episiotomy and forceps 708 00:36:43,827 --> 00:36:46,103 and it was absolutely horrendous. 709 00:36:46,206 --> 00:36:50,551 - The tear went through the muscle tissue around my anus. 710 00:36:50,655 --> 00:36:53,000 - And I feel angry that, that happened. 711 00:36:53,103 --> 00:36:55,241 - It took me probably 15 years 712 00:36:55,344 --> 00:36:57,103 to get over having Caesarean sections. 713 00:36:57,206 --> 00:36:59,758 - When I was sewn up I was sewn up incorrectly, 714 00:36:59,862 --> 00:37:01,241 - I didn't feel like a proper mother. 715 00:37:01,344 --> 00:37:04,413 I couldn't even manage to give birth to my children. 716 00:37:04,517 --> 00:37:05,413 - After he stitched me up 717 00:37:05,517 --> 00:37:07,482 I didn't feel the same as before. 718 00:37:07,586 --> 00:37:11,413 And I've never been able to exactly pee straight down 719 00:37:11,517 --> 00:37:14,275 because my cunt has been made wonky. 720 00:37:14,379 --> 00:37:17,241 I was really sore for a couple of weeks, 721 00:37:17,344 --> 00:37:18,620 but you kind of don't care 722 00:37:18,724 --> 00:37:21,103 because you've got this little snuffly bundle 723 00:37:21,206 --> 00:37:23,758 that's just, you know, really gorgeous. 724 00:37:24,862 --> 00:37:29,344 You know, birthing can be such an amazing thing 725 00:37:29,448 --> 00:37:30,827 within a world that tries its best 726 00:37:30,931 --> 00:37:34,827 to tell us it's the hardest and the worst thing in the world. 727 00:37:34,931 --> 00:37:36,827 - After the horror of childbirth, 728 00:37:36,931 --> 00:37:39,379 breastfeeding was a doddle. 729 00:37:39,482 --> 00:37:41,655 - You breastfeed, it makes your womb contract harder. 730 00:37:41,758 --> 00:37:45,413 - Sucking, you could feel the contraction in your uterus 731 00:37:45,517 --> 00:37:47,000 and of course in your cunt. 732 00:37:47,103 --> 00:37:48,931 - And then you realise that you're gushing down below 733 00:37:49,034 --> 00:37:51,862 and you're like, "Is this OK, is this normal?" 734 00:37:51,965 --> 00:37:53,103 I'd have been really grateful 735 00:37:53,206 --> 00:37:54,931 if I'd known that was going to happen. 736 00:38:11,137 --> 00:38:13,482 - I think when I was first told 737 00:38:13,586 --> 00:38:16,206 that it was really unlikely 738 00:38:16,310 --> 00:38:19,724 that I would ever be able to conceive, 739 00:38:20,517 --> 00:38:24,103 that massively made me question 740 00:38:24,206 --> 00:38:27,689 my entire identity as a woman, 741 00:38:27,793 --> 00:38:31,620 what did womanhood even mean if you couldn't have kids? 742 00:38:32,896 --> 00:38:35,551 We are socialised from a very young age 743 00:38:35,655 --> 00:38:40,413 to believe that we are entitled to a family, 744 00:38:40,517 --> 00:38:42,241 we're entitled to that... 745 00:38:42,344 --> 00:38:47,758 that biological right or capacity to conceive. 746 00:38:47,862 --> 00:38:51,000 You have to find new ways to explore womanhood. 747 00:38:55,482 --> 00:38:59,068 - I'd wanted a child for a long time with my partner 748 00:38:59,172 --> 00:39:03,103 and was told that it wasn't going to be possible 749 00:39:03,206 --> 00:39:06,034 but then it was possible 750 00:39:06,137 --> 00:39:09,620 and got to the stage of seeing the child's heartbeat. 751 00:39:09,724 --> 00:39:13,034 And then I was staying with a friend 752 00:39:13,137 --> 00:39:17,689 and realised I was having a miscarriage, 753 00:39:17,793 --> 00:39:23,724 so I went into the hospital and I went to the toilet to pee 754 00:39:23,827 --> 00:39:26,413 and then the whole miscarriage just came out. 755 00:39:26,517 --> 00:39:29,206 And I remember looking in the loo 756 00:39:29,310 --> 00:39:32,827 and thinking, "That's my baby in the loo," 757 00:39:33,827 --> 00:39:35,965 so I put my hand down 758 00:39:36,068 --> 00:39:40,000 to pick her up and just held her. 759 00:39:43,620 --> 00:39:50,448 And it was like a massive piece of liver, dark, warm, bloody. 760 00:39:53,137 --> 00:39:54,655 There is a loss there, 761 00:39:54,758 --> 00:39:57,482 but it's taken me to this age of 52 762 00:39:57,586 --> 00:40:01,413 to be able to say it's not the end of the world. 763 00:40:10,551 --> 00:40:13,137 - I'd been bleeding for a few weeks in between periods 764 00:40:13,241 --> 00:40:16,793 and a lot after sex with my boyfriend at the time 765 00:40:16,896 --> 00:40:19,620 and he said, "Is it because my dick's too big?" 766 00:40:21,137 --> 00:40:25,482 So when the doctor said, "You've got cervical cancer," 767 00:40:25,586 --> 00:40:28,517 it felt like a ton of paving slabs 768 00:40:28,620 --> 00:40:32,551 had just been thrown onto my chest 769 00:40:32,655 --> 00:40:36,275 and I just thought, "I'm 24, like I'm not..." 770 00:40:36,379 --> 00:40:38,655 I haven't even had a smear test yet 771 00:40:38,758 --> 00:40:42,275 and I'm being told that I've got cancer. 772 00:40:43,344 --> 00:40:45,827 I had my cervix removed, 773 00:40:45,931 --> 00:40:48,206 the surrounding kind of tissue area 774 00:40:48,310 --> 00:40:50,034 and the top third of my vagina. 775 00:40:50,137 --> 00:40:51,862 There's a lot of kind of stigma 776 00:40:51,965 --> 00:40:53,827 around having a gynaecological disease, 777 00:40:53,931 --> 00:40:56,344 like somebody at my old job when I was leaving to go 778 00:40:56,448 --> 00:40:59,275 and have the operation said, 779 00:40:59,379 --> 00:41:00,620 "What kind of cancer have you got?" 780 00:41:00,724 --> 00:41:01,827 and I said, "Cervical." 781 00:41:01,931 --> 00:41:03,758 And she said, "Well, how do you get that?" 782 00:41:03,862 --> 00:41:06,000 And like you wouldn't ask the same 783 00:41:06,103 --> 00:41:08,206 if I'd said breast, bowel or brain. 784 00:41:08,310 --> 00:41:09,689 When it's something in between your legs, 785 00:41:09,793 --> 00:41:10,724 there's this assumption 786 00:41:10,827 --> 00:41:12,620 that you've done something wrong as a woman, 787 00:41:12,724 --> 00:41:15,310 there's a lot of judgement and inaccuracy. 788 00:41:15,413 --> 00:41:18,413 It's medically inaccurate that you have to have, you know, 789 00:41:18,517 --> 00:41:21,448 slept with a lot of people to have a gynae problem. 790 00:41:21,551 --> 00:41:24,379 There is this stigma around gynae health, 791 00:41:24,482 --> 00:41:27,896 which means that some women will not be as lucky as I was. 792 00:41:33,310 --> 00:41:34,448 - When I was really little 793 00:41:34,551 --> 00:41:36,724 and I didn't understand about what bodies were 794 00:41:36,827 --> 00:41:38,034 and gender was, 795 00:41:38,137 --> 00:41:40,310 I honestly thought I would grow up to be a boy. 796 00:41:40,413 --> 00:41:42,793 I just thought that's just how it was, 797 00:41:42,896 --> 00:41:45,896 some people changed and I didn't... 798 00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:47,620 maybe I didn't even think that I was going to change, 799 00:41:47,724 --> 00:41:49,172 maybe I thought I already was a boy. 800 00:41:52,413 --> 00:41:58,827 I don't really see myself as male or female, 801 00:41:58,931 --> 00:42:03,000 I understand that my physical body is female, 802 00:42:03,103 --> 00:42:06,758 but myself, excluding the skin sack, 803 00:42:06,862 --> 00:42:09,034 is much more neutral. 804 00:42:09,137 --> 00:42:12,586 I have elements of masculine and feminine, 805 00:42:12,689 --> 00:42:14,034 I think everybody does really, 806 00:42:14,137 --> 00:42:15,793 but I feel that mine are very balanced, 807 00:42:15,896 --> 00:42:18,896 and I sit somewhere sort of very cleanly in the middle 808 00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:20,620 though it fluctuates a fair bit 809 00:42:20,724 --> 00:42:23,655 so, non-binary is a shorthand way of saying that. 810 00:42:25,137 --> 00:42:27,137 The moment that I understood what non-binary meant, 811 00:42:27,241 --> 00:42:29,724 or gender-neutral is the term I was using at the time, 812 00:42:29,827 --> 00:42:33,793 it was honest to God, like, I was flooded with light, 813 00:42:33,896 --> 00:42:36,379 I felt so alive and so connected 814 00:42:36,482 --> 00:42:38,413 and so calm and centred 815 00:42:38,517 --> 00:42:42,517 and it was just like finally, I make sense. 816 00:42:42,620 --> 00:42:45,344 Alright, fine, I've done it, can I turn it off? 817 00:42:45,448 --> 00:42:47,000 Cool. 818 00:42:47,103 --> 00:42:48,448 Off. 819 00:42:49,620 --> 00:42:50,793 Go away. 820 00:42:52,896 --> 00:42:54,965 My vagina is what it is 821 00:42:55,068 --> 00:42:57,448 and there's nothing I can do about that 822 00:42:57,551 --> 00:42:58,896 and I don't think I'd want to, 823 00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,000 it takes up a lot of head space. 824 00:43:01,103 --> 00:43:03,620 I'm very aware of it at all times, 825 00:43:04,551 --> 00:43:05,862 never goes away. 826 00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:08,896 - Bring your knees a bit. 827 00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:10,517 Just let your legs relax to the sides, 828 00:43:10,620 --> 00:43:12,482 just get comfortable. Ready? 829 00:43:12,586 --> 00:43:13,586 - Mm-hm. - OK. 830 00:43:16,344 --> 00:43:20,379 That's great. OK, one more. Fantastic. 831 00:43:20,965 --> 00:43:24,482 Oh wow, gorgeous. 832 00:43:24,586 --> 00:43:26,586 That's really lovely. 833 00:43:28,206 --> 00:43:29,655 - I can't wait for menopause, 834 00:43:29,758 --> 00:43:31,793 I want my period to be over with, 835 00:43:31,896 --> 00:43:33,482 I want it gone. 836 00:43:33,586 --> 00:43:35,241 Let the bleeding stop. 837 00:43:35,344 --> 00:43:37,241 I'm just about to have a hot flush, 838 00:43:37,344 --> 00:43:38,551 I'm sorry, guys. 839 00:43:42,413 --> 00:43:44,793 - I never had any of that stuff about, 840 00:43:44,896 --> 00:43:48,068 "Oh, you're going to be a dried up old woman." 841 00:43:50,517 --> 00:43:54,793 I kept getting wet when I was having sex. 842 00:43:54,896 --> 00:43:56,758 I'm 70, I was 70 in May 843 00:43:56,862 --> 00:43:59,068 and I still enjoy sex. 844 00:43:59,172 --> 00:44:03,758 I'm more dry than I used to be, so I use a lubricant. 845 00:44:03,862 --> 00:44:09,000 A little bit of spit, you know, solves that little problem. 846 00:44:13,517 --> 00:44:18,034 - I didn't stop desiring sex, 847 00:44:18,137 --> 00:44:23,034 I didn't stop wanting orgasms, 848 00:44:23,137 --> 00:44:26,068 really your life goes in different waves, 849 00:44:26,172 --> 00:44:27,517 up and down, 850 00:44:27,620 --> 00:44:29,620 you want sex or you don't want sex, 851 00:44:29,724 --> 00:44:32,310 I didn't want sex after I had my kids 852 00:44:32,413 --> 00:44:38,034 but after menopause I then thought to myself, 853 00:44:38,137 --> 00:44:42,827 "Honey, you're on your own, make the most of it," and I did. 854 00:44:45,482 --> 00:44:48,137 Narrator: I wanted to bring the reality of our bodies 855 00:44:48,241 --> 00:44:50,482 and the truth of our experiences into the open. 856 00:44:52,275 --> 00:44:55,068 I've now photographed 100 vulvas up close, 857 00:44:56,482 --> 00:45:00,655 it's been transformative and looking at them altogether, 858 00:45:00,758 --> 00:45:02,275 none of us are the same, 859 00:45:02,379 --> 00:45:05,241 we're not all neat, pink and perfect. 860 00:45:07,586 --> 00:45:10,965 I think a lot of people have this really solid idea 861 00:45:11,068 --> 00:45:13,758 of what a vagina should look like 862 00:45:13,862 --> 00:45:15,931 and if everyone just kind of dropped that 863 00:45:16,034 --> 00:45:18,310 and knew that there were loads of different vaginas 864 00:45:18,413 --> 00:45:21,827 then I think vaginas would be a lot happier. 865 00:45:21,931 --> 00:45:27,275 What if women did a sexual Brexit and took back control 866 00:45:28,310 --> 00:45:30,862 and then said to men, 867 00:45:30,965 --> 00:45:32,862 "You're only allowed near it if you know what you're doing," 868 00:45:32,965 --> 00:45:36,137 and we set up a kind of driver's licence? 869 00:45:37,137 --> 00:45:39,103 I think it would be useful. 870 00:45:41,448 --> 00:45:42,517 Narrator: This part of ourselves 871 00:45:42,620 --> 00:45:44,103 which we're so conditioned to conceal 872 00:45:44,206 --> 00:45:47,965 actually defines so much of our lives as women 873 00:45:48,068 --> 00:45:50,448 and our most intimate experiences, 874 00:45:50,551 --> 00:45:54,517 pleasurable and painful, shouldn't be treated as taboo, 875 00:45:54,620 --> 00:45:57,620 but as a testament to our strength. 67889

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