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YOUR EMERGENCY?
>> 911, WHAT IS THE ADDRESS OF
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>> OH, MY GOD! I NEED AN
AMBULANCE RIGHT AWAY.
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>> MA’AM, CALM DOWN. WHAT’S
GOING ON THERE?
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>> I THINK MY MOTHER FELL DOWN
THE STAIRS, AND THERE’S A KNIFE
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IN HER HAND AND STABBED
HERSELF. OH, MY GOD! NO!
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>> IS SHE BREATHING? MA’AM?
>> IT LOOKED LIKE SHE WAS
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STRANGLED, STABBED AND BEAT IN
THE HEAD. TO ME, THAT’S
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DEFINITE OVERKILL.
>> I SEE MY MOTHER LAYING
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THERE. I ASSUME SHE WAS HURT.
THERE WAS A KNIFE STICKING OUT.
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I MEAN, I FIGURED SHE FELL.
>> WHENEVER SOMEONE OF
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CONSIDERABLE WEALTH IS MURDERED,
WE LOOK AT WHO HAS A MOTIVE.
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>> THEY WERE ALREADY TRYING TO
FOCUS IN ON ME. WHERE WAS I?
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WHAT WAS I DOING? IT WAS ALL
ABOUT GREED AND MONEY. WHO HAS
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ACCESS TO THE HOUSE?
>> FIVE UNIQUE PERSPECTIVES.
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FIVE POINTS OF VIEW. ONE
MURDER.
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>> I’M PEGGY NADELL’S DAUGHTER.
>> I WAS THE LEAD DETECTIVE.
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>> I AM A LONGTIME FRIEND. I
WAS A CLOSE FRIEND OF PEGGY
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NADELL’S.
>> I WAS A PROSECUTOR.
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>> MY NAME IS SUSANNE
NADELL‐SCACCIO, AND I’M PEGGY
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NADELL’S DAUGHTER. MY
RELATIONSHIP WITH PEGGY WAS
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VERY CLOSE, AS I WOULD SAY,
MOST DAUGHTERS’AND
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MOTHERS’RELATIONSHIPS ARE. MY
MOTHER AND FATHER MADE A VERY,
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VERY HANDSOME COUPLE. THEY WERE
STRIKING. MY MOTHER USED TO
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LIKE TO GO TO THE CITY AND TO
THE MUSEUM AND TO THEATER AND
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MOVIES. THEY LOVED TO TRAVEL.
THEY TRAVELED ALL OVER THE
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WORLD TOGETHER. WHEN I WAS 3,
MY BROTHER JAMIE CAME INTO THE
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WORLD. I THINK MY BROTHER
DEVELOPED ‐‐ I‐I‐IT’S HARD TO
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PUT MY FINGER ON. I THINK HE
WAS A STRANGE ADOLESCENT AND HE
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DEVELOPED INTO A STRANGE ADULT.
HIS DIFFERENCES SPOKE VOLUMES.
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HE WAS NOT SOCIAL. HE WAS VERY
CEREBRAL. HE WENT AWAY TO
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SCHOOL. MOVED TO FLORIDA. NEVER
CAME HOME TO SEE MY FAMILY.
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NEVER CAME HOME TO SEE MY
PARENTS. MY FATHER PASSED AWAY
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IN 2003 VERY UNEXPECTEDLY, AND
IT WAS DEVASTATING. I KNEW THAT
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MY MOTHER WOULD WANT ME TO BE
STRONG. AND I DIDN’T WANT TO
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LET HER DOWN. I WANTED TO BE AS
STRONG AS SHE WAS. MY
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RELATIONSHIP WITH MY MOTHER WAS
VERY CLOSE. I WOULD SPEAK TO
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HER PROBABLY TWO OR THREE TIMES
A DAY. NOT A DAY EVER WENT BY
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THAT I DIDN’T EITHER SEE,
PHYSICALLY SEE, VISIT, OR HAVE
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A PHONE CONVERSATION WITH MY
MOTHER. SATURDAY MORNING, I
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ALWAYS CALL BETWEEN, I DON’T
KNOW, 7:30, 8:00. 8:00, 8:30 ON
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THE WEEKENDS. I TRIED THE HOUSE
PHONE. IT WAS RINGING, RINGING,
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RINGING. THE ANSWERING MACHINE
NEVER KICKED ON. I CALLED THE
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CELL. RINGING, RINGING, RINGING,
RINGING. I SAID, YOU KNOW,
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MAYBE SHE WENT OUT TO THE END
OF THE DRIVEWAY TO GET THE
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NEWSPAPER, TO PUT SOMETHING IN
THE MAILBOX. I MUST’VE CALLED A
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DOZEN TIMES TO EACH NUMBER, AND
SHE WAS NOT PICKING IT UP. SO I
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TOLD MY HUSBAND, BOBBY, "I’M
GOING DOWN THERE. MY MOTHER’S
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NOT ANSWERING THE PHONE. I WANT
TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING’S
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OKAY." I OPEN THE DOOR, AND I
REALIZED THE ALARM WASN’T ON.
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I’M LIKE, "GEE, WHY WASN’T THE
ALARM ON? " I WALKED IN, AND I
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FOUND HER. AND I IMMEDIATELY
RAN OVER. AND THE FIRST THING I
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NOTICED, SHE WAS BASHED IN THE
HEAD AND SHE WAS BLEEDING, AND
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I SAW BLOOD COMING OUT AROUND
THE RISE IN HER NOSE AND THE
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SIDE OF HER MOUTH. I SAID, "OH,
MY GOD. SHE FELL DOWN THE
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STAIRS." ONCE I GOT IN AND GOT
CLOSE, I SAW IT WAS MORE THAN A
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FALL DOWN THE STAIRS. THE KNIFE
WAS STUCK IN PEGGY’S CHEST.
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THEN I’M LIKE, "OH MY GOD. SHE
STABBED HERSELF, " AND I PULL
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THE KNIFE OUT. AND I WAS GONNA
DO CPR, AND I CHECKED FOR A
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PULSE, AND SHE WAS COLD. I’M
LIKE ‐‐ AND THEN I REALIZED I
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‐‐ YOU KNOW, I MEAN, EVERYBODY
SAYS, "WHAT DID YOU DO THAT FOR?
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WHAT ARE YOU THINKING? " YOU
JUST REACT. I MEAN, YOU DON’T
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‐‐ YOU DON’T THINK ABOUT WHAT
YOU’RE DOING. I RAN OUTSIDE. I
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CALL 9‐1‐1. OH, MY GOD! OH, MY
GOD!
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>> 911, WHAT IS THE ADDRESS OF
YOUR EMERGENCY.
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>> I NEED AN AMBULANCE RIGHT
AWAY! MY MOTHER’S FALLEN! SHE
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FELL. SHE HAD A KNIFE IN HER
HAND! OH, MY GOD!
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>> OKAY, IS SHE BREATHING?
>> NO, I DON’T THINK SO. OH,
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I’M AFRAID TO GO BACK IN. OH,
MY GOD. WHEN THE POLICE SHOWED
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UP, THEY KEPT ME OUTSIDE AND
THEY WERE ASKING ME QUESTIONS.
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AND AT THAT POINT, THEY WANTED
TO TAKE BOTH MYSELF AND MY
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HUSBAND, BOBBY, DOWN TO THE
POLICE STATION, SO I HAD NO
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CHOICE BUT TO GO. WHEN I WAS IN
THE POLICE STATION BEING
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INTERVIEWED THAT SATURDAY, THEY
CAME INTO ME AND SAID, "THIS
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WAS NOT AN ACCIDENT. YOUR
MOTHER DID NOT FALL. YOUR
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MOTHER WAS MURDERED." I WAS
SHOCKED, AND I COULD NOT
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POSSIBLY CONCEIVE WHO WOULD DO
THIS TO MY MOTHER. AND THAT’S
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WHEN THEY STARTED ASKING
QUESTIONS. I TOLD THEM THAT I
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PULLED THE KNIFE. I SAID I WAS
TRYING TO DO CPR ON HER AND
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THEN I REALIZED IT WAS PAST
THAT POINT. I ALSO TOLD THEM MY
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FINGERPRINTS WILL DEFINITELY BE
ON THE KNIFE AS MY DNA WILL BE
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ALL OVER THIS HOUSE. I’M HERE
TWO, THREE TIMES A WEEK. MY
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HAIR WILL BE HERE. MY
FINGERPRINTS WILL BE ON EVERY
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DOORKNOB. I THINK AT THIS POINT,
THEY WERE ALREADY TRYING TO
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FOCUS IN ON ME BEING THAT THEY
HAD ME IN THE POLICE STATION
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FOR SEVERAL HOURS AND WERE
ASKING ME QUESTIONS. I’M LIKE,
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"WHY ARE YOU ASKING ME THAT
QUESTION? "
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>> YOUR MOTHER HAD SOME ASSETS.
>> MY MOTHER HAS A LOT OF
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ASSETS. PROBABLY CLOSE TO $3
MILLION. DO I NEED MY LAWYER?
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>> WHY?
>> I DON’T KNOW. I’M JUST
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ASKING. YOU’RE ASKING ME ALL
THESE QUESTIONS. THE FOLLOWING
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DAY, WHICH WAS SUNDAY, THE
DETECTIVES CALLED ME AND ASKED
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ME TO COME DOWN TO THE POLICE
STATION TO TALK TO THEM. AND AT
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THAT POINT, I FELT IT WAS BEING
DIRECTED AT ME, AND I’M LIKE,
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"WAIT A SECOND. I DON’T WANT TO
TALK TO YOU NOW." AND I HIRED
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AN ATTORNEY. THEY DIDN’T LIKE
THAT.
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>> MY NAME IS EARL LORENCE. I
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>> MY NAME IS EARL LORENCE. I
WAS THE LEAD DETECTIVE WORKING
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THE MURDER OF PEGGY NADELL. THE
MORNING OF JANUARY 25, 2014, I
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WAS THE ASSIGNED DETECTIVE
WORKING THAT WEEKEND. SO AT
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AROUND 8:00 THAT MORNING, I WAS
AT THE LOCAL BAGEL STORE.
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THAT’S WHERE I RECEIVED THE
PHONE CALL. AND THE DESK
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SERGEANT SAID THAT THERE WAS A
DEATH OF AN ELDERLY WOMAN
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INSIDE HER RESIDENCE AND THAT
SHE HAD SLIPPED AND FALLEN ON A
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KNIFE. THE HOUSE IS IN AN
UPPER‐MIDDLE CLASS NEIGHBORHOOD
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IN VALLEY COTTAGE, NEW YORK,
VERY TIDY, VERY WELL‐KEMPT. THE
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DAUGHTER OF THE VICTIM, SUSANNE
NADELL‐SCACCIO, SHE WAS IN A
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FRANTIC STATE ‐‐ PANICKED,
YELLING, SCREAMING. UPON
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ENTERING THE HOME, THE VICTIM
WAS JUST INSIDE THE THRESHOLD
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OF THE DOORWAY AT THE BASE OF
THE STAIRWELL. YOU TRY NOT TO
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HARDEN YOURSELF TOO MUCH TO
EACH SITUATION. SO AT THIS
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MOMENT, IT REALLY DID KIND OF
HIT ‐‐ HIT HOME BECAUSE THIS
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WAS AN 80‐YEAR‐OLD WOMAN AT
HOME ALONE. MY MOTHER IS 80
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YEARS OLD. SHE LIVES ALONE.
THAT DOES HAVE A PERSONAL
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CONNECTION THERE. SO YOU WANT
TO DO ALL YOU CAN. MY FIRST
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INSTINCT, OBVIOUSLY, WAS THAT
IT WAS A HOMICIDE. THERE WAS NO
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WAY SHE ACCIDENTALLY FELL DOWN
THE STAIRS AND STABBED HERSELF
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IN THE CHEST THREE TIMES. WE
SAW THE KNIFE, WHICH WAS VERY
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OBVIOUS, A FEW FEET AWAY FROM
THE VICTIM. SHE HAD OBVIOUS
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TRAUMA TO HER HEAD. SHE ALSO
HAD WHAT APPEARED TO BE AT
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LEAST ONE OR TWO STAB WOUNDS TO
HER CHEST. HER NECK APPEARED TO
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BE QUITE BRUISED, BLACK AND
BLUE. NOW, IT LOOKED LIKE SHE
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POSSIBLY WAS STRANGLED. IT
LOOKED LIKE SHE WAS STABBED,
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AND SHE LOOKS LIKE SHE WAS BEAT
IN THE HEAD. NOW, TO ME, THAT’S
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DEFINITE OVERKILL. THE FIRST
THING I WANT TO DETERMINE IS,
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IS THERE A BREAK‐IN? I LOOKED
AT THE FRONT DOOR, AND THERE
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WAS NO APPARENT FORCE USED TO
GET INTO THE HOUSE. I WALKED
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UPSTAIRS AND WENT TO THE MASTER
BEDROOM. THERE WAS DRAWERS
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PULLED OUT AND PLACED ON THE
FLOOR, TOTALLY OUT OF PLACE
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BECAUSE YOU DON’T PUT THEM ON
THE GROUND LIKE THAT. SO IT
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LOOKED LIKE A STAGE BURGLARY.
ABOUT THAT TIME, SUSANNE
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UNDERSTANDABLY WAS STRESSED
OUT. SHE WANTED US OUT OF
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THERE. SHE WANTED US TO CLEAN
UP THE SCENE, GET HER MOTHER IN
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AN AMBULANCE, AND TAKE HER TO
THE HOSPITAL. THERE WERE RED
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FLAGS IMMEDIATELY WITH THIS
INVESTIGATION. ONE OF THE VERY
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FIRST THINGS SHE SAYS IN THE
FIRST COUPLE OF MINUTES OF US
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ARRIVING IS THAT HER MOTHER IS
WORTH HIGH SEVEN FIGURES, "OH,
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AND MY DNA AND MY FINGERPRINTS
ARE GONNA BE ALL OVER THAT
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HOUSE AND THAT KNIFE." IT JUST
SEEMED LIKE AN ODD THING TO
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FOCUS IN ON. IT STRUCK ME AS
ODD. BECAUSE SHE WAS SO ERRATIC,
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IT TOOK A LONG TIME TO KIND OF
SETTLE HER DOWN AND TO GET HER
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TO GO BACK TO THE STATION AND
JUST TALK ABOUT WHO MAY OR MAY
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NOT HAVE DONE THIS THING.
SUSANNE, SHE SAID SHE CAME TO
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THE HOME, HER MOTHER’S HOME,
AND WHEN SHE OPENED THE DOOR,
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OBVIOUSLY, SHE SAW THAT HER
MOTHER HAD THE KNIFE IN HER
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CHEST AND SHE PULLED THE KNIFE
OUT.
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>> SO I THOUGHT MAYBE SHE FELL
DOWN THE STAIRS BECAUSE OF THE
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WAY SHE WAS, AND I SAW THE
KNIFE. SO I PULLED THE KNIFE. I
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TOUCHED HER NECK. I TOUCHED HER
FACE. I SAID, "OH, THIS IS NOT
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GOOD."
>> THAT WAS A BIG CONCERN FOR
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US. WHY WOULD YOU TOUCH THE
MURDER WEAPON?
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>> I GUESS I SHOULDN’T HAVE
TOUCHED THE KNIFE, HUH?
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>> WITH SUSANNE, WE BASICALLY
JUST WANTED TO GO BACK THE LAST
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COUPLE OF DAYS. WE WANTED TO
KNOW WHAT SHE WAS DOING, WHERE
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SHE WAS GOING, WHERE SHE HAD
BEEN. WE SPOKE TO HER FOR A
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NUMBER OF HOURS, BUT THESE
INVESTIGATIONS TAKE TIME. WE
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MIGHT HAVE TO REVISIT THE SAME
WITNESS OVER AND OVER AGAIN. SO
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WE MADE AN APPOINTMENT FOR THE
FOLLOWING DAY. THE NEXT DAY,
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SHE HIRED AN ATTORNEY AND
STOPPED TALKING TO US. SHE
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REFUSED TO COOPERATE. TO ME,
THE BIGGEST RED FLAG OF ALL IS
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WHEN YOU HIRE AN ATTORNEY AND
REFUSE TO HELP LAW ENFORCEMENT
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WHEN YOUR OWN MOTHER IS THE
MURDER VICTIM. SO IF YOU DON’T
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WANT TO HELP THE PEOPLE WHO ARE
TRYING TO FIND THE PEOPLE WHO
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KILLED YOUR MOTHER, WHO ARE YOU
GOING TO HELP? AFTER SUSANNE
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TOLD US THAT SHE WASN’T GOING
TO COOPERATE ANY FURTHER, WE
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HAD TO REFOCUS OUR ENERGIES. AS
IT TURNS OUT, THERE WAS NO DNA
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EVIDENCE. THERE WAS NO
FINGERPRINTS. THERE WAS NO HAIR,
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SALIVA, NOTHING. WE WERE BEYOND
FRUSTRATED, BUT OBVIOUSLY WE
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DIDN’T STOP. WE KEPT ‐‐ WE KEPT
DIGGING. WE HAD TO KEEP MOVING
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FORWARD. WE GO BACK TO BASICS.
WE TAKE A LOOK AT THE PHONE
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RECORDS FOR PEGGY. AT THE SAME
TIME, WE’RE GETTING HER SON’S
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PHONE RECORDS AND HER
DAUGHTER‐IN‐LAW’S PHONE RECORDS,
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AS WELL. I WAS PARSING THROUGH
EACH INDIVIDUAL PHONE CALL. I
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GOT TO LIKE THE SIXTH NUMBER.
WE DISCOVER A PHONE CALL AT
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APPROXIMATELY 1:30 IN THE
MORNING THE NIGHT OF THE
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HOMICIDE COMING FROM A THROW
PHONE. THE BURNER PHONE, I WAS
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ECSTATIC. WE ALSO GET A
NOTIFICATION FROM THE ALARM
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COMPANY THAT SHE HAD SPOKEN TO
THE ALARM COMPANY BECAUSE THE
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ALARM WENT OFF AROUND THE SAME
TIME. SO WE ACTUALLY HAVE
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PEGGY’S VOICE SPEAKING TO THE
ALARM COMPANY, TELLING THE
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ALARM DISPATCHER THAT
EVERYTHING IS OKAY.
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>> HELLO, THIS IS THE
MONITORING CENTER WITH BULLET
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SECURITY.
>> THIS IS PEGGY NADELL. THE,
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UH, CODE WORD IS, UH, "MAX."
I’M SORRY.
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>> THAT’S OKAY, MA’AM.
>> EVERYTHING’S FINE.
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>> I’M GLAD EVERYTHING’S OKAY.
WE’LL DISREGARD FOR YOU. HAVE A
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GOOD NIGHT.
>> IT WAS ABOUT A 20‐SECOND
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PHONE CALL, AND IN CONJUNCTION
WITH THAT, THE ALARM GOING OFF,
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AND NO FORCED ENTRY AT THE
FRONT DOOR, AT THAT POINT, WE
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WERE POSITIVE. THIS WAS NOT A
STRANGER LURKING AROUND THE
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NEIGHBORHOOD KILLING OLD
LADIES. THIS WAS SOMEBODY THAT
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PEGGY KNEW.
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>> I’M ANNE MARTIN, AND I WAS A
CLOSE FRIEND OF PEGGY NADELL.
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WHEN I FOUND OUT THAT PEGGY WAS
MURDERED, I MEAN, I JUST ‐‐ I
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JUST COULDN’T BELIEVE IT. IT
WAS SUNDAY MORNING. I REMEMBER
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PICKING UP THE PHONE AND
SUSIE’S HYSTERICAL. SHE’S
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SAYING, "MY MOTHER’S GONE! MY
MOTHER’S GONE! "
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>> ANNE, IT’S SUSIE. MY
MOTHER’S GONE.
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>> SAY, "SHE PASSED AWAY."
>> SHE’S PASSED AWAY.
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>> SHE JUST DIDN’T EVEN KNOW
WHAT TO DO. THE POLICE WERE
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QUESTIONING HER. I THINK SHE
WAS JUST IN A STATE OF SHOCK.
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IT WAS UNBELIEVABLE. PEOPLE
WERE SAYING, "OH, WELL, SHE
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COULD HAVE DONE IT. WHY DID SHE
PULL THE KNIFE OUT? " WELL, I’M
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SURE IF I SAW MY MOTHER LYING
THERE, I WOULD THINK, "MY
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GOODNESS, MAYBE THIS HURTS." I
DON’T KNOW. YOU DON’T KNOW WHAT
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YOU WOULD DO IF YOU’RE IN THAT
SITUATION. THE DETECTIVES CAME
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TO MY HOME PROBABLY ONE OR TWO
DAYS RIGHT AFTER THAT. YOU KNOW,
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ASKING ME ALL KINDS OF
QUESTIONS AND, OF COURSE, THEY
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‐‐ THEY DID ASK ME WHAT KIND OF
A RELATIONSHIP SHE HAD WITH HER
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CHILDREN. JIMMY AND SUSIE, THEY
WERE BOTH, I’D SAY, DIFFERENT.
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SUSIE WAS, UH, STRONG‐MINDED.
SHE KNEW WHAT SHE WANTED. SHE
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COULD TAKE CARE OF HERSELF.
PEGGY WAS MORE PROTECTIVE OF
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JIMMY. I THINK PEGGY PROBABLY
WORRIED ABOUT JIMMY A LITTLE
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MORE BECAUSE HE WAS FAR AWAY
AND HE DID MARCH TO A DIFFERENT
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DRUMMER. AFTER HE GRADUATED
COLLEGE, WHEN HE WENT TO LIVE
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IN FLORIDA, HE STARTED TO WORK
FOR A HOSPITAL AS A
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PSYCHOLOGIST, AND THAT’S WHERE
HE MET DIANA. THEY WENT
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TOGETHER FOR SEVERAL YEARS
BEFORE THEY HAD ANY INTENTIONS
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OF GETTING MARRIED. WHEN PEGGY
FOUND OUT THAT DIANA WAS
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PREGNANT, SHE WAS DELIGHTED.
SHE WAS BESIDE HERSELF. PEGGY
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WOULD FLY TO FLORIDA TO HELP.
WHEN PEGGY WOULD TALK ABOUT HER
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GRANDCHILDREN, HER WHOLE FACE
WOULD JUST LIGHT UP. SHE JUST
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THOUGHT THE WORLD OF THEM.
DIANA, SHE LIKED TO HAVE
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DESIGNER CLOTHES. SHE LIKED
NICE JEWELRY. THEY REALLY
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COULDN’T AFFORD ALL THESE
THINGS. AND THEN SHE WOULD
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DEPEND ON PEGGY. I THINK THE
ISSUE STARTED TO COME UP
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BETWEEN PEGGY AND DIANA WHEN
DIANA STARTED TO BECOME A
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LITTLE TOO DEMANDING. PEGGY WAS
ALWAYS SENDING THEM MONEY.
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PEGGY SAID, "YOU KNOW, DIANA,
THIS IS JUST A LITTLE BIT TOO
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MUCH. YOU KNOW, I WON’T GO
ALONG WITH THIS." DIANA SAYS,
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"WELL, IF YOU WON’T COME ACROSS
WITH THE MONEY, " SHE SAYS, "I
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JUST WON’T LET YOU SEE THE
CHILDREN." WELL, THAT JUST
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ABSOLUTELY DEVASTATED PEGGY. I
MEAN, NOT BE ABLE TO SEE OR
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TALK TO HER GRANDCHILDREN WAS
HORRIBLE. IT WAS A TERRIBLE
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THING TO DO. PEGGY DID MENTION
TO ME THAT THEY WERE HAVING
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PROBLEMS, DIANA AND JIMMY, AND
THAT THEY MIGHT SEPARATE. AND
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OF COURSE, PEGGY WAS CONCERNED.
I MEAN, SHE WAS CONCERNED ABOUT
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HER SON, HIS HAPPINESS, AND HOW
THIS WAS GOING TO AFFECT HIM.
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PEGGY WAS VERY ASTUTE WHEN IT
CAME TO FINANCES. SHE HAD HER
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WILL AND HER TRUST. EVERYTHING
WAS IN ORDER. EVERYTHING WAS
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DIVIDED EQUALLY BETWEEN HER SON
AND HER DAUGHTER. THEY WERE TO
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GET THE BULK OF HER ESTATE. SHE
MADE IT CLEAR THAT IF THEY EVER
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SEPARATED OR DIVORCED, THAT,
YOU KNOW, JIMMY WAS TO GET THE
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MONEY AND THAT DIANA WAS NOT TO
GET ANY OF PEGGY’S ESTATE ‐‐
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NONE ‐‐ NONE WHATSOEVER. SO
AUNT DIANA, WHEN SHE FOUND OUT
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THAT THIS WAS SO, OF COURSE,
WAS NOT VERY HAPPY. AFTER PEGGY
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DIED, SHE CAME IN, JUST PUTTING
HER NAME ON EVERYTHING SHE
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WANTED. SHE WANTED PEGGY’S
JEWELRY. SHE WANTED PEGGY’S
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PURSES. PEGGY HAD A LOT OF NICE
HANDBAGS. SHE WANTED THE
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FURNITURE FROM THE HOUSE. YOU
START THINKING AND PUTTING TWO
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AND TWO TOGETHER. AND YOU THINK,
"YOU KNOW, SHE HAS A GOOD
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MOTIVE. IT’S VERY POSSIBLE THAT
SHE WOULD DO SOMETHING LIKE
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THIS."
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>> MY NAME IS DARCY GREENBERG,
AND I AM A LONGTIME FRIEND OF
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SUSANNE. AFTER SUSANNE GOT OUT
OF THE POLICE STATION, I WAS
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WAITING FOR HER AT HER HOME AND
WE WERE TREATING IT AS AN
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ACCIDENT. WE WERE, YOU KNOW,
COMFORTING HER BECAUSE HER
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MOTHER FELL WITH A KNIFE. IT’S
A DIFFERENT FEELING WHEN YOU’RE
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COMFORTING SOMEONE FOR A TRAGIC
LOSS LIKE THAT. AND THEN YOU
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GET ACCUSED OF BEING THE ONE
THAT DID IT. THAT CHANGES
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EVERYTHING. SOMETIMES I THINK
THE AUTHORITIES SAY WHO HAS
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ACCESS TO THE HOUSE, AND 95% OF
THE TIME, IT’S FAMILY. "OH, IT
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MUST BE HER." EVERY DAY, I WAS
AT HER HOME. WE WOULD WAVE TO
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THE UNDERCOVER COP SITTING IN
FRONT OF HER HOUSE. THEY
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WATCHED EVERY MOVE SHE MADE.
THEY HAD TO BECOME MORE
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INTIMATE WITH THE FAMILY, WITH
SUSANNE, WITH PEGGY, TO REALLY
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KNOW WHO COULD HAVE DONE THIS
TO HER. I HAVE BEEN SPEAKING
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WITH THE INVESTIGATOR SINCE THE
BEGINNING. YOU TAKE THE
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INFORMATION THAT THERE’S A LOT
OF MONEY INVOLVED AND YOU ALSO
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TAKE THE INFORMATION OF A KNIFE
BEING PUT THROUGH SOMEONE’S
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HEART, AND THEY TELL YOU THAT
IT’S MOST LIKELY A FAMILY
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PERSON, SOMEBODY THAT HAD
SOMETHING TO GAIN. I LOOKED AT
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THEM, AND I’M LIKE, "EVERYTHING
YOU’RE SAYING AND THE REASONS
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WHY YOU THINK SOMEBODY WOULD DO
THIS, I AGREE WITH YOU, BUT
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YOU’RE LOOKING AT THE WRONG
PERSON." I TOLD THEM SUSANNE
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DIDN’T NEED THE MONEY. SHE HAD
HER OWN. SUSANNE WAS A
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LAID‐BACK JEANS GIRL WITH THE
SAME KITCHEN FROM THE 1960S,
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THE SAME FURNITURE HER DAD
PICKED OUT WHEN SHE MOVED IN.
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KNOWING THAT IT WASN’T SUSANNE
100%, KNOWING THAT THEY FELT IT
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WAS FAMILY, MY INSTINCTS WAS
FOR THEM TO FOLLOW THE GREED,
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FOLLOW THE MONEY, FOLLOW DIANA.
ANYONE WHO DIDN’T REALLY KNOW
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PEGGY WOULD NOT KNOW HER WEALTH
BECAUSE SHE WAS NOT A FLAUNTER.
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SHE WAS VERY SMART ABOUT HOW
SHE SPENT HER MONEY, WHO SHE
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SPENT IT ON. PEGGY WAS ALWAYS
FINANCIALLY PROVIDING WHATEVER
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DIANA NEEDED BECAUSE IT WAS
IMPORTANT TO HER TO HAVE A GOOD
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RELATIONSHIP WITH DIANA, TO BE
ABLE TO HAVE THAT GOOD
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RELATIONSHIP WITH HER
GRANDCHILDREN. MOST OF THE
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MONEY WOULD JUST GO DIRECTLY TO
DIANA. SHE WAS IN CHARGE OF THE
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HOUSEHOLD, THE BILLS, THE MONEY,
ALL OF THAT. JIMMY TRUSTED HER.
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FROM WHAT THE POLICE TOLD ME,
WHEN THEY SPOKE TO HER, SHE WAS
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AT HER COUSIN’S WEDDING IN
MARYLAND AND HER PHONE PINGED
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IN MARYLAND. AND AS FAR AS THEY
WERE CONCERNED, THAT’S WHERE
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SHE WAS. I DON’T KNOW. MAYBE I
WATCH TOO MUCH TV. SOMETHING
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JUST DIDN’T SIT RIGHT WITH ME.
JUST BECAUSE THE PHONE IS
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SOMEWHERE, IT DOESN’T MEAN A
PERSON IS THERE, TOO.
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EVENTUALLY, THEY NOTICED THAT
THE PHONE WAS NOT USED. IT WAS
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JUST THERE. SHE WASN’T ANYWHERE
NEAR THE AREA OF MARYLAND WHERE
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THE WEDDING WAS, AND THAT WAS
JUST THE BEGINNING OF
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EVERYTHING JUST EXPLODING AND
UNRAVELING AND GETTING TO THE
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TRUTH. SHORTLY AFTER THAT, I
STARTED GETTING PHONE CALLS AT
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MY HOUSE, AND DIANA STARTED
CALLING ME, AND SHE WAS, YOU
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KNOW, VERY UPSET. SHE WAS
CALLING ME ALMOST EVERY MORNING,
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AND IT WOULD BE FROM DIFFERENT
PHONE NUMBERS. AND SHE SEEMED
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VERY RATTLED AND VERY OFF AND
VERY ASKING ME A LOT OF
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QUESTIONS WHERE IT SEEMED LIKE
SHE WAS GETTING NERVOUS, LIKE
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THE POLICE MAY BE LOOKING AT
HER, WHICH I SAID, "THEY HAVE
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TO LOOK AT EVERYBODY. THEY HAVE
TO LOOK AT YOU. THEY HAVE TO
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FOLLOW THEIR LEADS, AND DON’T
WORRY ABOUT IT." AND AS EACH
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DAY WENT ON, IT FELT LIKE IT
WAS GETTING WORSE AND SHE WAS
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GETTING MORE NERVOUS AND MORE
UPSET ABOUT HER BEING
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QUESTIONED OR HER BEING THOUGHT
OF AS A POSSIBLE SUSPECT. NOW,
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ONE MORNING SHE CALLED ME AND
SHE THANKED ME FOR LISTENING
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AND SAID SHE’S LEAVING AND
TAKING ONE OF THE KIDS AND
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SHE’S MOVING BACK TO JAMAICA. I
GOT OFF THE PHONE, AND I’M
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THINKING TO MYSELF, "SHE’S
LEAVING THE COUNTRY. THAT’S IT.
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WHETHER SHE’S GUILTY OR
INNOCENT, THAT’S IT." ONCE
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SHE’S GONE, SHE’S GONE. THAT
CAN’T BRING HER BACK. SO I
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CALLED THE POLICE. I SAID,
"LISTEN, SHE’S LEAVING. SHE’S
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GOT HER TICKETS. SHE’S GETTING
ON A PLANE. IF YOU THINK SHE
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DID THIS, YOU NEED TO GO GET
HER."
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>> MY NAME IS RICHARD MORAN,
AND I WAS A PROSECUTOR HANDLING
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THIS MATTER. WHEN THE DIANA
NADELL CALLED HER FRIEND AND
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SAID, "I’M LEAVING JIM AND
WE’RE GOING TO JAMAICA, " IT
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WAS AT THAT POINT WE DECIDED,
YOU KNOW WHAT, WE’VE GOT TO GO
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TO FLORIDA. YOU’VE GOT TO BE
VERY CAREFUL WHEN YOU
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INVESTIGATE THESE CASES BECAUSE
ONE WRONG MOVE, AND YOUR TARGET
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KNOWS YOU’RE LOOKING AT THEM.
WHEN YOU FIRST START
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INVESTIGATING A CASE ‐‐ IT’S
HER DAUGHTER‐IN‐LAW. YOUR
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THOUGHT REALLY ISN’T THAT SHE’S
GONNA BE THE ONE THAT DID THIS.
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DIANE, SHE HAD AN ALIBI THAT
SHE WAS AT A WEDDING IN
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WASHINGTON, D. C. WHAT IT KEPT
COMING BACK TO IS, YES, HER
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PHONE WAS IN D. C., BUT OTHER
THAN THOSE PHONE CALLS, THERE
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WAS REALLY NOTHING TO
CORROBORATE THAT SHE WAS THERE.
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A BIG KEY OF THIS INVESTIGATION
WAS THE FACT THAT JUST PRIOR TO
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PEGGY NADELL BEING MURDERED,
HER PHONE RECEIVED A CALL FROM
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AN ALARM COMPANY. AND IN
LOOKING AT THE CALLER I. D., WE
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SAW THAT JUST BEFORE THE ALARM
COMPANY CALLED, IT WAS WHAT
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SOME PEOPLE CALLED A BURNER
PHONE ‐‐ A PHONE THAT’S PREPAID,
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THAT’S NOT REALLY ASSOCIATED
WITH ANY ONE SPECIFIC PERSON.
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WHEN WE LEARNED THAT THE TRACK
PHONE WAS PURCHASED IN FLORIDA
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SO CLOSE TO DIANA NADELL’S HOME,
THAT WAS A GAME‐CHANGER FOR US,
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AND IT REALLY SHIFTED THE FOCUS
OF OUR INVESTIGATION. WE DID A
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THOROUGH ANALYSIS OF DIANA
NADELL’S PHONE RECORDS. JUST A
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DAY OR TWO BEFORE PEGGY NADELL
WAS MURDERED, ALL OF A SUDDEN,
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DIANA NADELL STARTS SPEAKING ON
THE PHONE WITH A PERSON NAMED
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ANDREA BENSON WHO’S IN
WASHINGTON, D. C. SHE ALSO
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STARTS COMMUNICATING WITH A
PERSON NAMED TANISHA JOYNER IN
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THE DAYS FOLLOWING THE MURDER
‐‐ PEOPLE SHE HAD NEVER SPOKEN
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WITH PRIOR TO THIS HAPPENING.
AT THAT POINT, WE HAD ENOUGH TO
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GO UP ON A WIRETAP. WHAT WE
DECIDED WOULD BE THE PERFECT
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TRIGGER IS, LET’S ASK DIANA
NADELL ABOUT HER ALIBI. WHO WAS
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SHE WITH IN WASHINGTON, D. C.?
AND WE WERE ASKING HER IF THEY
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COULD JUST GIVE US A CALL AND
CONFIRM HER ALIBI. AND ONCE WE
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DID THAT, HER PHONE CALLS
EXPLODED. SHE REACHED OUT TO
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TANISHA JOYNER, AND THERE WAS
THIS VERY INTERESTING CALL.
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TANISHA SAYS, "WAIT A MINUTE.
WAS I WITH YOU FROM 9:00 P. M.
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TO 6:00 A. M., OR FROM 6:00 A.M.
TO 9:00 P. M.? " BECAUSE SHE
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DOESN’T KNOW BECAUSE SHE WASN’T
WITH HER. THERE WERE SEVERAL
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PHONE CALLS WITH ANDREA BENSON.
THEY WOULDN’T TALK ABOUT THE
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CASE ON THE PHONE, BUT THERE
WAS ONE TIME WHERE ANDREA
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BENSON SAID, "LISTEN, I’M IN
THIS WITH YOU. I’M IN THIS,
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TOO." THE ADRENALINE STARTS
PUMPING. WE FEEL LIKE WE’RE
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REALLY GETTING TO THE POINT
WHERE OUR THEORIES ARE NOW ‐‐
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THEY’RE NOT THEORIES. NOW IT’S
EVIDENCE. IT WAS AFTER THAT
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PHONE CALL ABOUT HER GOING TO
JAMAICA, WE DECIDED TO MOVE. WE
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SENT PEOPLE TO INTERVIEW DIANA
AND ALL OF THE PEOPLE THAT SHE
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HAD INVOLVED IN THIS PLOT. WE
HAD THE TEAMS ACTUALLY WITH
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PEOPLE UNDER SURVEILLANCE. AT
THE WORD "GO, " EVERYBODY WENT
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INTO ACTION. TANISHA JOYNER WAS
TAKEN INTO CUSTODY. ANDREA
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BENSON WAS TAKEN INTO CUSTODY.
AND THAT ALL HAPPENED
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SIMULTANEOUSLY. ONCE THESE
PEOPLE ARE BEING SPOKEN TO AND
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INTERVIEWED BY DETECTIVES,
DIANA NADELL’S ENTIRE STORY
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STARTS TO BREAK DOWN. TANISHA
JOYNER WAS BEING INTERVIEWED IN
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BALTIMORE AND WAS TELLING THE
DETECTIVES THERE THAT DIANA
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NADELL HAD ASKED HER TO MAKE
PHONE CALLS THAT EVENING. WHEN
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WE INTERVIEWED ANDREA BENSON,
WE LEARNED A LOT OF DETAILS
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ABOUT THIS CASE THAT WE JUST
DIDN’T KNOW, THINGS THAT WE
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THOUGHT WERE ALWAYS GOING TO
REMAIN A MYSTERY. SHE MET DIANA
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NADELL THROUGH HER AUNT.
ANDREA’S AUNT WAS SUPPOSED TO
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PICK UP DIANA NADELL FROM THE
AIRPORT IN WASHINGTON, D. C.,
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BUT SHE COULDN’T, AND SO SHE
SENT ANDREA. WHEN SHE PICKED
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DIANA NADELL UP, DIANA ASKED
HER IF SHE WANTED TO MAKE $10,
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000, AND TO DO SO, SHE WOULD
HAVE TO GO UP TO NEW YORK AND
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KILL DIANA’S MOTHER‐IN‐LAW.
WHILE DRIVING UP TO VALLEY
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COTTAGE, DIANA HAD ANDREA
BENSON ACTIVATE THE BURNER
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PHONE, AND THAT WAS ALONG ROUTE
95. ON THEIR WAY UP, DIANA,
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EVERY TIME THEY WERE AT A TOLL
PLAZA, WOULD HIDE HER FACE SO
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THAT HER FACE COULDN’T BE SEEN
ON CAMERA. ONCE THEY GOT TO
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PEGGY NADELL’S HOME IN VALLEY
COTTAGE, DIANA NADELL CALLED
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PEGGY FROM THE BURNER PHONE AND
TOLD HER SHE WAS IN THE AREA.
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COULD SHE COME IN? IT HAD TO
HAVE BEEN SUCH A SURREAL
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SCENARIO FOR HER. HER
DAUGHTER‐IN‐LAW IS AT HER DOOR
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WITH A STRANGER. IT’S 1:00 IN
THE MORNING. NONETHELESS, IT
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WAS HER DAUGHTER‐IN‐LAW, AND
SHE LET HER IN, GAVE HER A
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GLASS OF WATER, SAT DOWN AND
SPOKE WITH HER. AT THAT POINT,
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DIANA ASKED PEGGY, "CAN WE GO
UPSTAIRS? " PEGGY TOLD DIANA
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SHE WAS GONNA GO USE THE
RESTROOM, SO DIANE AND ANDREA
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WERE IN THE ROOM ALONE. AND
DIANA BEGINS, LIKE, "WE’RE
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GONNA DO THIS NOW." AND ANDREA
TOLD US THAT SHE HAD TAKEN OFF
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THE STRAP FROM HER POCKETBOOK.
IT UNHOOKED ON EITHER SIDE. AND
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SHE WAS GONNA USE THAT TO
STRANGLE PEGGY. DIANA STARTS
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TALKING TO PEGGY ABOUT THE
FAMILY JEWELRY. AND THEY START
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GOING DOWN THE STAIRS, AND
PEGGY’S IN FRONT, ANDREA’S
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RIGHT BEHIND HER. THAT TIME,
ANDREA STARTS STRANGLING PEGGY
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FROM BEHIND. AND IN
INTERVIEWING ANDREA, SHE KEPT
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REPEATING THE PHRASE, "BUT SHE
WOULDN’T GO. SHE WOULDN’T DIE."
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DIANA RAN TO THE KITCHEN AND
GRABBED A KITCHEN KNIFE AND
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BROUGHT IT BACK AND WAS TELLING
ANDREA, "STAB HER! STAB HER! "
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AND ANDREA SAID SHE REFUSED TO
DO IT. AND SO WHILE SHE WAS
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CHOKING PEGGY, DIANA STABBED
PEGGY NADELL IN THE CHEST. ONCE
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DIANA WAS PICKED UP IN FLORIDA
AND BROUGHT IN FOR AN INTERVIEW,
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AT FIRST, SHE DIDN’T KNOW WHY
SHE WAS THERE. AND THEN SHE SAW
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DETECTIVE LORENCE AND DETECTIVE
COLE‐HATCHARD WALK IN THE ROOM,
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AND HER FACE DROPPED. THE FIRST
WORDS SHE SAID WAS, "YOU THINK
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I KILLED MY MOTHER‐IN‐LAW? "
>> YOU KNOW WHO WE ARE, RIGHT?
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>> YEAH, WHY WOULDN’T I KNOW
WHO YOU ARE? THEY THINK I
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KILLED MY MOTHER‐IN‐LAW. IS
THAT WHAT THIS IS ABOUT? I DID
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NOT MURDER MY MOTHER‐IN‐LAW.
>> UNDER THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES,
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IT WAS VERY TELLING. DIANA
NADELL AND ANDREA BENSON WERE
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BOTH ARRESTED AND CHARGED WITH
MURDER AND HAD TO WAIT TO BE
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EXTRADITED TO THE STATE OF NEW
YORK. JUST WHEN WE THOUGHT THIS
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CASE COULDN’T GET ANY CRAZIER,
IT DID.
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>> I WAS FAST ASLEEP. IT WAS
LIKE 11:00 AT NIGHT, 10:00 AT
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NIGHT, AND BOBBY CAME IN AND
WOKE ME UP AND SAID, "YOUR
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COUSIN IS HERE." I CAME OUT.
THEY SAID, THEY TOLD ME, "THEY
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ARRESTED DIANA, " AND I WAS ‐‐
I WAS SHOCKED, BUT I WASN’T
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SURPRISED. I THINK THE FIRST
THING I SAID, "I KNEW SHE HAD
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SOMETHING TO DO WITH IT."
>> WHEN ANDREA BENSON AND DIANA
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NADELL WERE FIRST CHARGED, THEY
WERE CHARGED WITH MURDER IN THE
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SECOND DEGREE. ONCE ANDREA
BENSON FLIPPED AND BECAME A
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WITNESS FOR THE PROSECUTION, WE
WERE THEN ABLE TO UPGRADE THE
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CHARGES AGAINST DIANA NADELL TO
MURDER IN THE FIRST DEGREE,
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MURDER FOR HIRE. TANISHA JOYNER
ALSO BECAME STATE’S EVIDENCE
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AND PLEADED GUILTY TO A LESSER
CRIME.
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>> ANDREA, SHE DOESN’T COME
FROM A LOT. SHE’S HAD A TOUGH
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UPBRINGING, AS IT WERE, AND SHE
HAS QUITE A CRIMINAL HISTORY.
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SHE HAS A YOUNG CHILD AT HOME,
DOESN’T HAVE A HUSBAND, WORKS A
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MENIAL JOB AT ONE OF THE LOCAL
SUPERMARKETS. DIANA OFFERS HER
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$10,000 IF SHE WOULD HELP HER
KILL PEGGY. SHE AGREES ON THE
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DRIVE FROM THE AIRPORT.
>> ANDREA BENSON ONLY RECEIVED
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$500 UP FRONT AND WAS GOING TO
GET THE REST OF THE MONEY WHEN
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DIANA GOT HER MONEY, WHICH
NEVER CAME, OBVIOUSLY.
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>> I RECEIVED A PHONE CALL FROM
A DETECTIVE IN THE JURISDICTION
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OF WHERE DIANA NADELL WAS BEING
HELD IN CUSTODY, PENDING TRIAL,
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AND WE WERE TOLD THAT AN INMATE
HAD REPORTED THAT DIANA NADELL
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TRIED TO HIRE HER TO ARRANGE
FOR THE MURDER OF TANISHA
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JOYNER. THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE
THAT CAN’T HELP BUT TO TRY TO
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CONTROL EVERY ASPECT OF A
SITUATION, AND DIANA NADELL
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KEPT TRYING TO DO THAT EVEN
WHILE SHE WAS IN JAIL. WE MET
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WITH THE INMATE. SHE WAS FITTED
WITH A RECORDING DEVICE AND
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WENT BACK INTO THE AREA WHERE
DIANA NADELL WAS, AND AT THAT
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TIME, DIANA NADELL DID EXACTLY
WHAT THE INMATE SAID SHE DID.
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SHE GAVE HER THE INFORMATION OF
TANISHA JOYNER, SAID SHE NEEDED
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TO BE DEAD. WE WENT INTO GRAND
JURY AND INDICTED DIANA NADELL,
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AT THAT POINT, FOR ATTEMPTING
TO HAVE THIS WITNESS MURDERED.
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AND AT THAT POINT, SHE HAD NO
CHOICE BUT TO PLEAD GUILTY.
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DIANA NADELL’S ATTORNEY CAME TO
US AND ASKED US IF WE WOULD
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CONSIDER A PLEA OF 23 TO LIFE.
AND AFTER SPEAKING WITH THE
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FAMILY AND WEIGHING EVERYTHING,
FOR US, THAT WAS SOMETHING WE
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COULD LIVE WITH.
>> I SAW DIANA WHEN SHE WAS
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BEING ARRAIGNED. THAT’S THE
FIRST TIME I SAW HER AFTER MY
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MOTHER’S MURDER. SHE WOULDN’T
EVEN TURN AROUND AND LOOK AT
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ME.
>> THIS MURDER WAS ABOUT GREED.
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DIANA LEARNED THAT IF SHE LEFT
HER HUSBAND PRIOR TO PEGGY’S
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DEATH, SHE WOULD GET NOTHING.
AND THAT WASN’T SOMETHING SHE
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WAS WILLING TO ACCEPT.
>> DIANA SAW MY MOTHER AS A
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CASH MACHINE. DIANA THOUGHT SHE
KNEW WHAT MY MOTHER WAS WORTH.
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00:38:19,964 --> 00:38:23,601
I DIDN’T KNOW WHAT MY MOTHER
WAS WORTH. I KNEW THERE WAS
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MONEY. I DIDN’T KNOW HOW MUCH
MONEY. IT DIDN’T MATTER.
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>> IT SOUNDS CHEESY, BUT YOU
BECOME A PROSECUTOR BECAUSE
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IT’S ONE OF THE ONLY JOBS IN
THE WORLD WHERE YOUR JOB IS TO
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JUST DO JUSTICE AND TO DO THE
RIGHT THING. THIS CASE BEGAN
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WITH WALKING INTO PEGGY
NADELL’S HOME AND SEEING HER
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BRUTALLY MURDERED ON HER FLOOR,
AND IT ENDED WITH DIANA NADELL
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SERVING WHAT I BELIEVE WILL BE
THE REST OF HER LIFE IN PRISON.
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>> I KNOW THAT DIANA IS NOT
ENJOYING JAIL. I’VE HEARD
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THROUGH THE GRAPEVINE, DIANA
REFUSES TO TELL ANYBODY WHY SHE
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00:39:05,743 --> 00:39:08,046
IS THERE. I GUESS SHE’S
EMBARRASSED. SHE DOESN’T WANT
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ANYBODY TO KNOW SHE’S A
MURDERER. I THINK, TO THIS DAY,
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SHE’S STILL CLAIMING SHE WAS
FRAMED.
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>> SHE JUST RUINED SO MANY
LIVES. YOU KNOW, FRIENDS,
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FAMILY. I MEAN, WHAT SUSIE HAD
TO GO THROUGH AND EVEN, I’M
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SURE, WHAT JIMMY HAD TO GO
THROUGH.
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>> NOW SUSANNE AND JIMMY HAVE
TO LIVE WITHOUT THEIR MOTHER
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AND LIVE WITH THE NIGHTMARE OF
WHAT HAPPENED. NOT ONLY DID
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