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[man] I've got this camera
pointed toward this door
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- because something about to happen.
- [people chuckle]
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I can't really speak on it,
but, there you go, baby. It's startin'.
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Know what I mean?
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It's startin'.
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Alright, already.
You hear the clippers going on, though?
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Do you hear that?
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[people chuckle]
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You see my boy, Biggie?
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My boy get three hairs, he get nervous.
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He don't fuck around.
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Yeah, I can't be, you know, looking like,
you know, I'm 21 and shit, you know.
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- [man] True.
- Gotta, y'know, keep that 18 feel.
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- Y'know?
- [man] That 18 feel. No diggity.
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- Let's get that jump popping.
- The jump. Yeah.
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- Atlanta's been selling out.
- I know.
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Passes on, please.
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Still.
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[sings] ♪ This is how we do it ♪
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[crowd chatter]
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Yo!
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[man] It's hard when you grow up
with somebody that ends up successful,
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'cause you will never
look at them like that.
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I'd be looking at people:
"Y'all doing all of this for Chris?"
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[Big] Where the honeys gettin' money
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playin' niggas like dummies though?
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[man] Throw your hands in the air!
Everybody throw your hands in the air!
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Put your mothafuckin' hands in the air!
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Come on!
Let me hear you say, "Ho!"
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- Come on!
- [audience] Ho!
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- Say, "Ho!"
- Come on!
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- [audience] Ho!
- Now all the ladies say, "Oww!"
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- Oh yeah, check it out.
- Check it out!
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♪ To all the ladies in the place
With style and grace ♪
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♪ Allow me to lace
These lyrical douches in your bushes ♪
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♪ Who rock grooves and make moves
With all the mamis? ♪
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♪ The back of the club, sippin' Moët
Is where you'll find me ♪
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♪ The back of the club, mackin' hoes
My crew's behind me ♪
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[D Roc] They say
a picture say a thousand words.
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I was like,
"Well, fuck, what would a video do?"
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Reppin', dog?
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- D Roc got it on screen.
- Got the limo.
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[D Roc] Aw, bruh!
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Whatever it is we were doing,
I would be recording it.
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- We're on our way to another show.
- Aw, bruh!
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Boo!
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♪ C-notes by the layers
True fuckin' players ♪
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♪ Jump in the Rover and come over
Tell your friends jump in the GS3 ♪
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♪ I got the chronic by the tree ♪
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♪ I love it when you call me Big Poppa ♪
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♪ Throw your hands in the air
If you're a true player ♪
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♪ I love it when you call me Big Poppa ♪
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♪ To the honeys gettin' money
Playin' niggas like dummies ♪
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Chris Wallace is a conscious person.
He knows what is going on.
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Notorious B.I.G.,
he really didn't give a fuck.
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[D Roc laughs]
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I don't really listen to too much,
like, hip-hop.
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I usually like listening to slow songs,
like slow old songs. Like The Stylistics.
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- [DJ] Right.
- Dramatics.
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[D Roc] Niggas looking good tonight.
I see how it is.
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- Cash Money clique right there.
- Woo!
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[D Roc] Hit that note for me
we've been hitting all day.
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♪ Every time I close my eyes ♪
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[D Roc] What?
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♪ I wake up feeling so horny! ♪
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Woo!
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A hidden secret is that Biggie
was really like a R&B writer.
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He was like a R&B singer.
So that's why you get the melodies.
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It was rare that he would be rapping.
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He would always be singing
somebody's songs.
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As a hip-hop historian,
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being born in a time
when hip-hop was invented,
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you always were able to hear some remnants
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of previous rap artists.
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This guy,
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I don't know where he came from
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with his cadence, with his rhythms,
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with his sound, with his approach,
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with his confidence.
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You have no origins for what planet,
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what rap planet, this guy came from.
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[D Roc] Come on,
watch your back, baby boy.
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We both really didn't have no fathers.
We both was the only child.
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No pictures.
Poppa having a party and shit.
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- No other pictures, yo.
- [D Roc] We bonded little bit more.
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When you're the only child, you tend
to gravitate toward your friends closer.
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[woman] I really believe Damion
was very, very close to him.
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He was the one who called me and told me.
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It was five o'clock
that morning the phone rang.
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I picked up the phone.
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"Hello?"
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And…
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All I could hear was Damion.
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He couldn't even come out with the words.
I just heard him crying.
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And I knew…
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It was my son.
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[solemn violin music playing]
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[helicopter patrol] Over.
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At the block, over.
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[P. Diddy] I never knew
that you could feel so sad
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or feel so hurt, or feel so empty.
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Felt like everybody wanted to give up.
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[helicopter patrol] And they're on FDR.
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Headed to the south side.
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Towards the Brooklyn…
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They're heading to the on-ramp.
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Towards the Brooklyn Bridge.
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Going towards Brooklyn.
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Two-seven-four over the Brooklyn Bridge.
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Maintaining position on the south side.
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[P. Diddy] And then,
we came over that bridge in Brooklyn…
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[patrol] Downtown Brooklyn.
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Across from Tillary.
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[cheering, indistinct shouting]
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Nobody was crying.
They were all celebrating.
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Their memories of Biggie was like the joy,
was the dancing,
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of seeing somebody
that came from their neighborhood make it.
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And it just gave us a little lift.
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Biggie Smalls was a king!
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[P. Diddy] And this story
doesn't have to have
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a tragic ending.
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Alright, boom.
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Today we in Detroit.
You know what I mean?
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We got a couple shows,
so this is the beginning of the tape,
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so motherfuckas know where the fuck we at.
July 14th, baby.
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[D Roc] Where we at, y'all?
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- Where we at?
- We in Detroit!
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- Detroit, baby!
- [D Roc] We in Detroit on another mission.
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- Detroit, baby!
- [D Roc] I would grab the cameras.
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Big be like, "Got tapes?"
before we leave the crib.
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Then, it started being a part of our life.
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Like, I would just pop one in,
and our whole day.
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It was like a visual diary.
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Back in 1995, that was a lot.
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This was a kid straight up the block, now,
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he's the hottest thing smoking now.
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[cheering, indistinct shouting]
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I might sign an autograph.
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[car honking]
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Biggie blew up, like, you know,
like, overnight.
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We gonna show them
who the fuck is in the house.
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You in the house, Biggie!
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We gonna show them
who the fuck is in the house.
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[P. Diddy] It was during a time
where Dre and Snoop and them,
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they were just really…
They were knocking it out the park.
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So they were really inspiring
and motivating us to step up our game.
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As New York, as the home of hip-hop,
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we felt like we had a savior.
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You couldn't tell me that he wasn't
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the greatest rapper of all time.
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I was saying shit like that
when he was alive,
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that he was the greatest rapper.
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[awards presenter] And the winner is…
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Baby, baby!
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B.I.G.!
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And the winner is…
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[laughs]
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Notorious Big!
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- B.I.G.!
- Bah!
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Straight up Brooklyn in the house!
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The award
for album of the year
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is The Notorious B.I.Gizzy!
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Ready to Die.
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[P. Diddy] He went in deep,
and on that Ready to Die album,
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none of that was done
for no money, for no glory.
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That was from out of his heart.
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Yo, I want to give mad love
to my daughter, to my moms.
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We did it, Brooklyn!
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When Ready to Die came out,
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one of my friend bought the album.
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Then she told me, "Oh my God,
I listened to the album,
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and so much profanity is on it!"
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I said, "Really? Profanity?"
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My moms don't really know what a rapper,
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like a platinum-selling rapper,
she don't know what they make.
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She don't know that I be doing shows
for near $10,000, four shows a week.
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She just think that I'm over here
just doing little thousand dollar shows
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at little night clubs and shit.
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- [Lil' Cease laughing]
- She don't know what's going on.
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[D Roc] Hold up. Oh shit! What up, Poppa?
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You know Marley takes it miles
to come see me. You know what I mean?
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Stacks and stacks.
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What? Stacks and stacks?
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[rapping]
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Yeah! Check it out!
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"One of my friend bought your album,
and they told me
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it is reeking with profanity."
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"Christopher, is it true?"
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"Ma, what are you doing
listening to my music?
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You're not supposed to be listening!
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It's for nobody over 35 years old!"
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Uh-oh.
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I stayed the hell away from his music.
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I said, "You know what?
He told me don't listen to it."
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"I'm not gonna listen to it."
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Basically, she don't give a fuck
about none of that shit.
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I ain't "Biggie." I'm her son, you know?
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That's how she look at it.
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I'm trying to get out of this house
so she can get out my hair.
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His world, the rap world, and my world,
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we're completely opposite.
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If it wasn't for him,
I wouldn't be listening to rap music.
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I'm a country and western person.
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I'm a ballad person.
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["Stand By Your Man"
by Merlene Webber]
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♪ Stand by your man ♪
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♪ He is the one to cling to ♪
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And even back home in Jamaica,
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there's a certain time of the morning
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that, on the radio, you would hear
country and western.
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I would save up money every year
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to take my son and myself to Jamaica.
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He loved Jamaica
because they spoiled him rotten.
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[Gwendolyn] Once he placed his eyes on me,
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he run and hugged me.
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"Grandma!"
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I knew Chris would be special.
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He was loving, kind, genuine.
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[Voletta] He loved hanging out
with his Uncle Dave
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because Dave was the musician,
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and he would take him to these joints
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where they played their music.
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And he swore when he became famous
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his Dave was gonna be a part of his crew.
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["Respect"
by DeeJay Rell & Killa Ben plays]
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♪ Watch this! Lawd… ♪
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[song continues in background]
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We was bound together.
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And from the first time
Biggie hear me start to sing,
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that was it.
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Many times we were out there,
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and he was rapping and I was singing.
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[Dave singing] ♪ Them coming to church
Like some special guest ♪
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♪ You know, some skimpy clothes
That expose their breasts ♪
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♪ They paths that come
I preach out them hat ♪
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♪ I tell the woman
Them clothes too sharp ♪
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♪ Them… ♪
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♪ What you don't know, you don't know ♪
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♪ What you don't know, you don't know ♪
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♪ What you don't know, you better get… ♪
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I was born in Jamaica right here
in the district.
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A few houses up on the hill.
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But I always daydream
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of being a filthy rich lady.
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A lady of great means with three children.
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I would have a beautiful home on a hill.
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I did not see that in the country for me.
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That was not my life.
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When I became a teenager,
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I migrated to the United States.
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I was saddened,
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but at the same time,
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"Okay, I'm going
to the great United States of America."
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In New York and Brooklyn,
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school and work
and taking care of your baby.
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[gentle piano music playing]
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But in Jamaica,
it was just fun and sun time.
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[D Roc] I grew up on Gates
between Bedford and Nostrand.
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Big grew up on Saint James
between Fulton and Gates.
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It was about a eight block difference
from where we grew up at.
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My moms was further into Bed-Stuy.
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You know, Big was kind of like
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borderline Bed-Stuy, Clinton Hill.
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[man] A lot of people didn't view that
as Clinton Hills in that time,
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especially for the dudes
that was quote-unquote
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"running around in the streets."
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Clinton Hills ain't sound too good
when you talkin'
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like, it don't got that same energy as,
"Yo, I'm from the Stuy."
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We was from a tree-lined block,
a nice-looking block,
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even though, you know, things went on.
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You know, people sold drugs, did drugs.
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People got robbed and all that
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but… it didn't look as bad as it was.
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I lived on Saint James
between Gates and Greene.
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I met Big in front of his stoop.
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The only place that you could tell was bad
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was, like, when you hit Fulton Street.
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[police sirens wailing]
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It's like, I would turn the corner.
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There'd be, like, 50, 60 dope fiends.
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That scared the shit out of me
when I was little.
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Now, at the time,
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Big moms wasn't allowing him to hang
on Fulton Street.
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We on the stoop. She right there.
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"Christopher, where are you going?"
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Most people did call him Big,
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other than his mom.
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Ms. Wallace always called him
Christopher. [Laughs]
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I never even heard her call him Chris.
"Christopher."
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[Voletta]
Christopher was a very smart kid.
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You know, he goes to,
I mean, a Catholic school.
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[church bell tolls]
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[man] Chris was my first friend in life,
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from kindergarten
all the way till he was killed.
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Growing up as children of immigrants,
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we, like, kind of were outsiders.
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Our mothers came from a struggle, but,
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even though we were living in,
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you know, low-income neighborhoods,
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they came with aspirations.
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Our friends would be
a little bit more street,
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a little bit more street-savvy.
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This is where hip-hop came into our lives.
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♪ C'mon Marley Marl
Let's rock free state ♪
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I grew up to that shit.
When my moms got me a radio for Christmas,
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she got me a Fat Boys tape…
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♪ Fat boys… ♪
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…and a Run-DMC tape. That's all I had.
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- ♪ Down to the ground ♪
- ♪ Sucka MCs ♪
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♪ You sad-faced clowns ♪
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[Hubert] That was the era of us
staying in tune with everything hip-hop.
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And he was already writing
since elementary.
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He had different rhyme books, and we would
all link up and start doing routines.
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[Voletta] When I heard him in his room,
I thought it was noise
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because I, like…
[imitates percussion, sputtering sounds]
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"Oh my God, will you please cut it out?
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I'm trying to concentrate here."
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[D Roc] Look at Poppa, sippin' on a...
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- We in Davenport, man. Iowa.
- [D Roc] What you drinkin'?
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Vodka.
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[D Roc singing]
♪ Sure he rides ♪
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As we were starting
to do a lot of shows,
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to the point where Big
would be like, "You know?"
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I became part of the show.
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Put your mothafuckin' hands in the air!
Come on!
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Put your mothafuckin' hands in the air!
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00:17:26,378 --> 00:17:28,088
Check it out!
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[rapping]
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He would be like, "Yo",
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each song that drop, tape the show.
331
00:17:44,021 --> 00:17:46,482
Tape the audience.
I want to see the reaction,
332
00:17:46,565 --> 00:17:48,484
so when we double back
and put our show together,
333
00:17:48,567 --> 00:17:51,236
"I know what songs are stronger,
where I get the most reaction."
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00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:53,739
Our shit was always the crowd.
It never was us.
335
00:17:53,822 --> 00:17:55,908
We liked to see what the crowd was doin'.
336
00:17:55,991 --> 00:17:58,410
- Yo.
- Yo, D Roc, come here, son. Before we...
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00:17:58,494 --> 00:18:00,537
We gotta get the crowd. Hype tonight.
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00:18:00,621 --> 00:18:03,624
We can take this back to NY.
We need everybody on camera
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00:18:03,707 --> 00:18:05,876
so we can take this shit back to Brooklyn.
340
00:18:05,959 --> 00:18:07,711
Raise your hands. I wanna see them!
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- [crowd screaming, cheering]
- Yeah!
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[D Roc] We've done shows in places
that might hold 500 people.
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We've done shows in the illest places
to biggest places,
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and it's always the same thing.
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[Big] All the way to the back.
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Mothafuckers blowin' shit up.
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00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:26,605
They were gonna go 100% every time.
348
00:18:26,688 --> 00:18:28,941
[DJ] What was your life like as a child?
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I was just…
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00:18:30,150 --> 00:18:32,903
- [DJ] Were you shy? Were you outgoing?
- No, still shy.
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00:18:32,986 --> 00:18:34,905
- I'm a quiet dude, man.
- [DJ] Are you?
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00:18:34,988 --> 00:18:38,992
I kind of get the voice for certain things
I want to say in my music.
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00:18:39,076 --> 00:18:41,078
[Hubert] As shy as he could be,
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when he could work an angle,
he would speak up.
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00:18:44,248 --> 00:18:46,583
Donald Harrison was a young jazz artist
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when we were younger
that happened live on the block.
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00:18:49,419 --> 00:18:52,756
He would see Donald coming in
with the beautiful ladies
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00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:54,091
and with the horn,
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00:18:54,174 --> 00:18:56,635
and before I knew it, he'd say,
"Yo, I met him."
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00:19:03,016 --> 00:19:04,434
Sounds something like that.
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00:19:05,769 --> 00:19:08,021
Yeah, I played with Art Blakey,
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Miles Davis, and Lena Horne.
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00:19:12,484 --> 00:19:13,986
Clinton Hill, at that time,
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was becoming a place
where a lot of musicians and artists
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00:19:18,574 --> 00:19:20,325
were doing things in that neighborhood.
366
00:19:20,409 --> 00:19:22,286
So I figured I should be there too.
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00:19:22,786 --> 00:19:25,873
[Big] A jazz musician used to live
on my block on Saint James.
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00:19:25,956 --> 00:19:27,291
This guy was real cool.
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00:19:27,374 --> 00:19:29,751
I used to come by
the house all the time.
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00:19:32,004 --> 00:19:35,257
[Donald] I was being helped
by older musicians,
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who were nurturing me.
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One of the things that they told me,
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which was in my heart anyway,
was to pass it on.
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00:19:44,433 --> 00:19:46,852
With Chris,
I did a lot of different things,
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00:19:46,935 --> 00:19:48,228
go to the movies,
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00:19:49,146 --> 00:19:50,564
the Museum of Modern Art,
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00:19:50,647 --> 00:19:53,066
explaining Picasso and all those guys
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00:19:53,150 --> 00:19:56,612
and the difference
between different eras of painting.
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00:19:57,738 --> 00:19:59,072
He would be a sponge
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00:19:59,156 --> 00:20:02,409
to just so much more
that was outside of our scope
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00:20:02,492 --> 00:20:04,036
as young kids.
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00:20:04,953 --> 00:20:09,124
I was initially trying to groom Chris
to be a jazz artist
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because he was so talented.
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00:20:13,212 --> 00:20:15,297
One of the things that we worked on
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00:20:15,380 --> 00:20:18,884
was putting what a snare drum
did in bebop drumming
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00:20:18,967 --> 00:20:21,553
into the rhythm of a rhyme.
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00:20:22,221 --> 00:20:25,390
We listened to Max Roach
with Clifford Brown.
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[mimics percussion]
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Max has a very melodic way
of playing the drums.
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00:20:32,522 --> 00:20:34,233
He makes the rhythm into a melody.
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00:20:34,316 --> 00:20:36,318
[mimics percussion]
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So if you slow one
of those ideas down, like…
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[mimics percussion]
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Put some lyrics to that,
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00:20:46,870 --> 00:20:51,291
you can hear that Notorious B.I.G.
was accenting those notes
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00:20:51,917 --> 00:20:58,882
and rhyming in a way that exudes
all the finer qualities
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00:20:58,966 --> 00:21:00,217
of a bebop drum solo.
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It's incredible.
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00:21:01,426 --> 00:21:03,971
♪ I'd rather make a buck
Drive a fat-ass truck ♪
400
00:21:04,513 --> 00:21:06,598
♪ Drag the nine two clips and run amuck ♪
401
00:21:06,682 --> 00:21:08,767
♪ Yes, flex after two or three Becks ♪
402
00:21:08,850 --> 00:21:11,228
♪ As I wreck shit
What the fuck you expected? ♪
403
00:21:11,311 --> 00:21:12,145
♪ A fly guy? ♪
404
00:21:12,229 --> 00:21:13,230
♪ Well, fuck it ♪
405
00:21:13,313 --> 00:21:16,275
♪ I'm a high guy from Bed-Stuy
Putting the swelling on your eye ♪
406
00:21:16,358 --> 00:21:19,152
♪ Your nose even
When I choke me, you stop breathing ♪
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00:21:19,236 --> 00:21:20,737
♪ The police come
I'm leaving ♪
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00:21:20,821 --> 00:21:23,657
- Peace and love. Here we go.
- [crowd] Yeah!
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00:21:23,740 --> 00:21:27,786
I got my first turntable set
by the time I hit junior high.
410
00:21:28,370 --> 00:21:31,039
Then we got to see him
rhyming over the beats.
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[rapping]
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[Hubert] Every summer,
Chris would come back from Jamaica,
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00:21:47,014 --> 00:21:49,016
and Chris would bring back
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00:21:49,099 --> 00:21:51,435
some Jamaican slang and music
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00:21:51,518 --> 00:21:52,769
that we didn't listen to.
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00:21:52,853 --> 00:21:55,605
Rock music, reggae, country.
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00:21:56,148 --> 00:21:59,109
He said, "You know, I can't sleep
without country music on."
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00:21:59,192 --> 00:22:00,235
And we were shocked.
419
00:22:01,570 --> 00:22:03,739
Chris wanted to make our first recording.
420
00:22:03,822 --> 00:22:06,575
MC Cwest was his name at that time.
421
00:22:06,658 --> 00:22:09,911
And we found a studio
downtown Brooklyn called Funky Slice,
422
00:22:10,454 --> 00:22:13,290
and we had to get permission
from our parents, of course.
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00:22:13,373 --> 00:22:15,542
We put together allowance money.
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00:22:16,126 --> 00:22:18,670
And we're in Brooklyn today
at Funky Slice Studios.
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00:22:18,754 --> 00:22:20,964
We're gonna show you
how to make a demo tape,
426
00:22:21,048 --> 00:22:24,676
how to do it, get that record out,
get that deal going so you get paid.
427
00:22:25,635 --> 00:22:28,013
He made a song
over the Toto "Africa" beat.
428
00:22:28,722 --> 00:22:31,099
So his skills was not only in lyrics,
429
00:22:31,683 --> 00:22:33,018
just vision for songs.
430
00:22:33,101 --> 00:22:36,021
♪ I hear the drums echoing tonight ♪
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00:22:37,189 --> 00:22:39,191
[rapping over the Toto "Africa" beat]
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00:22:53,038 --> 00:22:54,664
[Donald] People who transcend
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00:22:54,748 --> 00:22:57,709
understand a lot of different things,
434
00:22:57,793 --> 00:22:59,169
not just one.
435
00:22:59,252 --> 00:23:01,588
You got to add something else
into the equation
436
00:23:02,172 --> 00:23:03,548
for it to move forward.
437
00:23:04,549 --> 00:23:07,844
[Big] Every rapper made me wanna do it.
Any nigga who got played on the radio.
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00:23:07,928 --> 00:23:10,514
I didn't even know how much
them niggas was making.
439
00:23:10,597 --> 00:23:13,767
I ain't know… All I knew was
that Doug E. Had a nice Linc
440
00:23:13,850 --> 00:23:15,394
and a nice little piece.
441
00:23:15,477 --> 00:23:18,230
Slick Rick was mad heavy.
You know what I'm saying?
442
00:23:18,313 --> 00:23:19,815
Heav had a Montero.
443
00:23:19,898 --> 00:23:22,984
I just knew what the magazines
and the videos showed me.
444
00:23:23,068 --> 00:23:26,154
That's all it was, though.
That's all it was, was a dream.
445
00:23:26,780 --> 00:23:30,033
It wasn't ever nothing I thought
that really was gonna take place.
446
00:23:30,117 --> 00:23:32,244
Your boy had to get right
with the Coogies.
447
00:23:32,327 --> 00:23:33,161
[D Roc] All the time.
448
00:23:33,245 --> 00:23:35,539
Make sure the Rolie and everything
is in full effect.
449
00:23:35,622 --> 00:23:37,249
The brim, Versaces, you know.
450
00:23:37,332 --> 00:23:38,917
- [D Roc] All good.
- Gotta make it happen.
451
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,711
[D Roc] Got the camera.
Can't forget the pinky ring.
452
00:23:41,795 --> 00:23:43,797
- Alright.
- That's what I'm talking 'bout.
453
00:23:45,924 --> 00:23:47,843
[D Roc] Fuckin' ain't right, yo. Look.
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00:23:47,926 --> 00:23:49,136
He had that on…
455
00:23:49,219 --> 00:23:51,304
- Fraud.
- …since he got it.
456
00:23:51,388 --> 00:23:53,014
Since I got it!
457
00:23:53,807 --> 00:23:55,642
And I got it a while ago!
458
00:23:57,519 --> 00:23:59,813
I used to be amazed
by the uniform Big used.
459
00:23:59,896 --> 00:24:01,773
I thought that was the ultimate shit.
460
00:24:01,857 --> 00:24:03,358
Then you can't be judged.
461
00:24:03,442 --> 00:24:06,111
There's no class.
There's no nobody better than nobody
462
00:24:06,194 --> 00:24:07,946
if we all wearing the same thing.
463
00:24:08,029 --> 00:24:10,073
Where I went to school, it wasn't that.
464
00:24:10,740 --> 00:24:11,992
I used to be telling him,
465
00:24:12,075 --> 00:24:14,911
"I wish I didn't have to do
the shit that I was doing."
466
00:24:16,204 --> 00:24:19,124
He used to be like, "Man,
I just want to get out and about.
467
00:24:19,207 --> 00:24:20,750
Like, what y'all be doing?"
468
00:24:20,834 --> 00:24:23,837
I used to try to talk to him like,
"I hear you, but I don't."
469
00:24:25,964 --> 00:24:27,632
[C Gutta] The '80s was like…
470
00:24:27,716 --> 00:24:30,677
Especially for a young Black kid,
471
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:34,639
it was easy to get lured into the streets.
472
00:24:34,723 --> 00:24:37,100
It wasn't a whole lot of jobs out there.
473
00:24:37,809 --> 00:24:40,270
When we got to Fulton Street,
we see the hustlers.
474
00:24:41,062 --> 00:24:45,901
These is all dudes that was getting money.
They had Jeeps, Benzes,
475
00:24:45,984 --> 00:24:48,236
jewelry, Gucci, Versa…
476
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,238
Like, they was wearing that back then.
477
00:24:51,698 --> 00:24:55,619
So now, if I want to get that,
how I'mma get that?
478
00:25:01,458 --> 00:25:03,585
Eighty-eight summer started so crazy
479
00:25:03,668 --> 00:25:05,837
because we wasn't doing anything.
480
00:25:05,921 --> 00:25:08,131
I was robbing people, of course,
481
00:25:08,215 --> 00:25:11,468
you know,
but as far as selling crack or not,
482
00:25:11,551 --> 00:25:13,553
none of us is doing it but Chic.
483
00:25:14,262 --> 00:25:15,347
It was me and Big,
484
00:25:15,430 --> 00:25:18,016
and we keep seeing Chic
running around the corner.
485
00:25:19,100 --> 00:25:21,394
I don't want to go
deep into the day...
486
00:25:21,478 --> 00:25:23,104
- Into that crack game!
- [C Gutta] Well…
487
00:25:23,188 --> 00:25:24,981
- C'mon. You want me to go...
- [C Gutta] Well…
488
00:25:25,065 --> 00:25:26,900
- Look at us!
- [C Gutta] This is...
489
00:25:26,983 --> 00:25:28,735
- I'm calling cut...
- [C Gutta] No.
490
00:25:28,818 --> 00:25:30,320
- Talkin'...
- [C Gutta] Hold on.
491
00:25:32,072 --> 00:25:36,243
Growing up back then,
man, if you wasn't into the hustling,
492
00:25:36,952 --> 00:25:40,038
good in sports, or going to school,
you was a nobody.
493
00:25:41,248 --> 00:25:42,749
Them three things.
494
00:25:43,291 --> 00:25:45,502
And me and Chris hanging outside
on the stoop
495
00:25:45,585 --> 00:25:48,046
'cause we was next-door neighbors.
We was friends.
496
00:25:48,129 --> 00:25:49,839
Chris was a quiet dude.
497
00:25:49,923 --> 00:25:52,050
He'd never leave off his stoop
for nothing.
498
00:25:52,133 --> 00:25:55,804
His mother used to watch him all the time.
"Christopher, come eat."
499
00:25:55,887 --> 00:25:58,723
I'm 19. Big's 16.
500
00:25:58,807 --> 00:26:00,892
Most teenagers gonna get into something,
501
00:26:00,976 --> 00:26:03,353
because now you just trying
to feel your oats.
502
00:26:03,436 --> 00:26:06,940
You trying to express your manhood
and stuff like that.
503
00:26:07,023 --> 00:26:10,485
Chic was like, "Yo,
it's like all I do is stand out there.
504
00:26:10,569 --> 00:26:12,070
They come. They come to me."
505
00:26:12,153 --> 00:26:15,156
I was like, "That's it?
That's all you do is just stand out…"
506
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:17,367
'Cause like I said, we'd never sold drugs.
507
00:26:18,118 --> 00:26:20,078
He got to the hustling game through me.
508
00:26:20,161 --> 00:26:23,248
Now you say I'm the bad guy.
Well, who do me?
509
00:26:25,584 --> 00:26:28,712
[C Gutta] I was getting an SSI check
for my moms having cancer.
510
00:26:28,795 --> 00:26:31,214
Chic like,
"Bro, you can get an ounce with that."
511
00:26:31,298 --> 00:26:33,049
So we go cop an ounce.
512
00:26:33,133 --> 00:26:35,218
[street noise]
513
00:26:35,302 --> 00:26:38,888
[dramatic violin music swells]
514
00:26:43,935 --> 00:26:46,688
We go to Chic room. Chic bag it up.
515
00:26:46,771 --> 00:26:50,275
This was the first time me
and Big ever sold crack.
516
00:26:51,526 --> 00:26:56,781
Now, at that time, we was bagging up
16, 17 hundred in work off an ounce.
517
00:26:57,449 --> 00:27:01,202
And you don't even have the maturity
enough to think it all the way through.
518
00:27:01,786 --> 00:27:03,455
Of course you would jump on that.
519
00:27:04,748 --> 00:27:06,625
[Big] I used to draw back in the day,
520
00:27:07,375 --> 00:27:09,336
back like in 4th, 5th grade.
521
00:27:09,419 --> 00:27:12,464
They was always like,
"Take that talent that you have,
522
00:27:12,547 --> 00:27:15,675
think of something that you can do
in the future, build on it."
523
00:27:15,759 --> 00:27:17,677
And I was like, well, I like to draw,
524
00:27:18,219 --> 00:27:22,390
so what could I do with drawing?
Am I gonna be the one at the art dealer?
525
00:27:22,474 --> 00:27:24,476
I'm not gonna be that type of nigga.
526
00:27:24,559 --> 00:27:27,979
I was more like maybe I could do,
like, big billboards and shit.
527
00:27:28,063 --> 00:27:29,898
Like commercial art, in commercials.
528
00:27:29,981 --> 00:27:33,026
- That's, like, so long ago though.
- [D Roc] Mm-hmm.
529
00:27:33,109 --> 00:27:35,195
And then after I got introduced to crack?
530
00:27:36,237 --> 00:27:39,574
[Big chuckles]
531
00:27:40,075 --> 00:27:41,242
Commercial art?
532
00:27:43,870 --> 00:27:45,955
I go out here for 20 minutes,
533
00:27:46,623 --> 00:27:49,626
and get some paper,
some real money, man.
534
00:27:50,669 --> 00:27:51,920
The parents didn't know.
535
00:27:52,003 --> 00:27:55,215
Some of the parents didn't know
because we kept it, you know…
536
00:27:55,799 --> 00:27:57,926
Ms. Wallace worked every day,
nine to five.
537
00:27:58,009 --> 00:28:00,887
She was a teacher, like.
So she worked every day, so…
538
00:28:00,970 --> 00:28:04,099
Big basically had nine to five
to do wrong.
539
00:28:05,058 --> 00:28:08,603
The corner we stood on
was the train station she got out of.
540
00:28:08,687 --> 00:28:09,854
Like, we knew the time.
541
00:28:09,938 --> 00:28:13,775
Look down Fulton Street.
Clock in Brooklyn. A clock on four sides.
542
00:28:13,858 --> 00:28:17,445
So you would know
when she's getting off work.
543
00:28:17,529 --> 00:28:19,656
Like, we just basically just took it over.
544
00:28:19,739 --> 00:28:23,410
All the old niggas got locked or murdered,
545
00:28:23,493 --> 00:28:26,913
and they just started drifting off,
and we just took over the ave.
546
00:28:26,996 --> 00:28:27,997
It was like…
547
00:28:28,790 --> 00:28:31,292
Sort of like…
This is like hood celebrity status.
548
00:28:32,544 --> 00:28:33,753
We was like stars, man.
549
00:28:35,046 --> 00:28:37,382
[Lil' Cease] All the cool motherfuckers
are on Fulton Street.
550
00:28:37,465 --> 00:28:39,300
Once you be there for a long time,
551
00:28:39,384 --> 00:28:41,219
we saw what they was doin',
what was going on.
552
00:28:41,302 --> 00:28:43,680
"Shit, they hustlin'.
They sellin' drugs, crack.
553
00:28:43,763 --> 00:28:45,265
Okay. This is what to do?"
554
00:28:47,183 --> 00:28:49,310
♪ If I wasn't in the rap game ♪
555
00:28:49,394 --> 00:28:52,230
♪ I'd probably have a ki
knee-deep in the crack game ♪
556
00:28:52,313 --> 00:28:54,524
♪ Because the streets is a short stop ♪
557
00:28:54,607 --> 00:28:57,318
Biggie Smalls in the house
getting plenty of dough.
558
00:28:57,402 --> 00:28:59,612
- Plenty dough, nigga!
- Keep it real!
559
00:28:59,696 --> 00:29:01,614
Plenty dough! That's how we handle it.
560
00:29:01,698 --> 00:29:04,743
Then, we'd smoke weed,
sit in front of the store for hours.
561
00:29:05,326 --> 00:29:07,120
We just liked being on the corner.
562
00:29:07,203 --> 00:29:08,913
How you gonna make yourself shine?
563
00:29:08,997 --> 00:29:10,874
It wasn't about you being a hustler.
564
00:29:10,999 --> 00:29:13,835
"I'm gonna go buy sneakers.
I'm gonna buy me a chain."
565
00:29:13,918 --> 00:29:16,004
You wanted to stand for something.
New York, was about,
566
00:29:16,087 --> 00:29:19,007
especially Brooklyn,
you had to be fly. You had to be shit.
567
00:29:19,090 --> 00:29:21,134
That was our way
of making our own money.
568
00:29:21,968 --> 00:29:24,220
[C Gutta] This is one of the things
that we learned:
569
00:29:24,304 --> 00:29:27,265
It's like,
everybody that's out here is not…
570
00:29:27,348 --> 00:29:29,768
Don't have the same amount of…
571
00:29:29,851 --> 00:29:33,188
[dramatic cello drones]
572
00:29:34,439 --> 00:29:35,648
Same amount of…
573
00:29:35,732 --> 00:29:36,816
How can I put it?
574
00:29:37,984 --> 00:29:38,943
Ruthlessness.
575
00:29:40,278 --> 00:29:41,905
This is when, really…
576
00:29:44,157 --> 00:29:45,533
…O comes in the picture.
577
00:29:46,367 --> 00:29:52,207
[D Roc] Olie was the original hustler.
Like, Olie schooled everybody.
578
00:29:52,999 --> 00:29:54,042
[Big] My man "O."
579
00:29:54,584 --> 00:29:56,377
Like, we used to be hustling.
580
00:29:56,461 --> 00:30:00,548
All of us dropped out of school,
15, 14 years old.
581
00:30:00,632 --> 00:30:03,051
We were sitting on like six,
seven grand a week.
582
00:30:03,134 --> 00:30:04,010
Just living.
583
00:30:04,886 --> 00:30:08,389
[Lil' Cease] Him and Big was like,
you couldn't even separate them two.
584
00:30:08,473 --> 00:30:11,559
O was his boy.
That was like his best friend.
585
00:30:13,436 --> 00:30:16,689
[Jasmine] So Olie, as everyone called him…
I called him Roland.
586
00:30:16,773 --> 00:30:20,068
The very first time he sort of
brought me over to that side,
587
00:30:20,151 --> 00:30:22,028
which was on Fulton and Saint James,
588
00:30:22,111 --> 00:30:25,573
that's when I started to like,
"Wait a minute. What is going on here?"
589
00:30:25,657 --> 00:30:28,368
And I really…
I kinda was oblivious to it to be honest.
590
00:30:28,451 --> 00:30:31,996
You know, but you're young.
I was 14, 15 at the time.
591
00:30:34,249 --> 00:30:35,333
[C Gutta] Big's 17.
592
00:30:35,959 --> 00:30:37,168
O's 17.
593
00:30:38,127 --> 00:30:39,587
O got the Honda Accord.
594
00:30:40,964 --> 00:30:43,925
[Hubert] O had the Accord
with the flip-up lights.
595
00:30:44,008 --> 00:30:45,969
And it was like a Bentley pulled up.
596
00:30:47,011 --> 00:30:50,181
[C Gutta] Just my man having the car,
we was the shit.
597
00:30:50,265 --> 00:30:52,433
Big's standpoint too, it's like, man,
598
00:30:53,393 --> 00:30:55,019
we got more brothers.
599
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,648
- [D Roc] What's the deal, Poppa?
- [Chico] Yo. Fuck is the deal?
600
00:30:59,232 --> 00:31:01,359
[Chico] Stacks and stacks. Yeah baby.
601
00:31:01,442 --> 00:31:03,820
- You know what I mean?
- [Big] 1421 is Cease?
602
00:31:03,903 --> 00:31:05,697
- [Chico] There.
- [D Roc] Lil' Cease's bloatin'.
603
00:31:05,780 --> 00:31:07,574
[D Roc] But let Poppa do his thing.
604
00:31:08,992 --> 00:31:10,410
[C Gutta] Columbia's finest.
605
00:31:13,121 --> 00:31:13,997
[D Roc] Uh-oh.
606
00:31:16,958 --> 00:31:19,127
- Yo, we out.
- [Olie] Look at your boy.
607
00:31:19,836 --> 00:31:21,838
- [D Roc] I can't see him.
- [Chico] Thang!
608
00:31:21,921 --> 00:31:23,882
- [Lil' Cease] Chico!
- [Chico] We out!
609
00:31:23,965 --> 00:31:25,133
[Lil' Cease] Hey!
610
00:31:25,216 --> 00:31:26,092
[Big] Come on.
611
00:31:26,175 --> 00:31:29,178
- [D Roc] Niggas waiting. You play babies.
- [Big] Let him get pretty.
612
00:31:29,262 --> 00:31:31,264
He ain't get pretty in a while.
Let him do his thing.
613
00:31:31,347 --> 00:31:32,515
I hit something.
614
00:31:32,599 --> 00:31:35,435
[Lil' Cease] For a long time,
when he was freestyling, and doing rhymes,
615
00:31:35,518 --> 00:31:37,020
he used to say "Junior MAFIA."
616
00:31:37,103 --> 00:31:38,605
So in the very beginning,
617
00:31:39,522 --> 00:31:41,608
we didn't… nobody had no idea, you know?
618
00:31:41,691 --> 00:31:44,152
Was like, "Who's Junior MAFIA
when you say that?"
619
00:31:44,235 --> 00:31:45,612
He was like, "Y'all."
620
00:31:45,695 --> 00:31:48,197
Junior MAFIA, baby!
621
00:31:56,831 --> 00:32:00,877
[D Roc] He built characters.
Like Big put Junior MAFIA together,
622
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,421
gave everybody a character,
gave everybody a name,
623
00:32:03,504 --> 00:32:05,089
and wrote most of the rhymes.
624
00:32:06,466 --> 00:32:10,094
Christopher Wallace
certainly had a great ear.
625
00:32:10,178 --> 00:32:12,931
Knowing the drive and how dope he was.
626
00:32:13,014 --> 00:32:15,266
He was, you know, super intelligent,
627
00:32:15,350 --> 00:32:18,978
and his way with words.
He would have probably set all of them up
628
00:32:19,062 --> 00:32:22,106
with a frickin' gold
or platinum first album
629
00:32:22,190 --> 00:32:23,733
if they showed
630
00:32:23,816 --> 00:32:26,194
that they wanted
to put in the work to do that.
631
00:32:26,653 --> 00:32:29,364
To be in Junior MAFIA, you gotta be
a friend, you know?
632
00:32:29,447 --> 00:32:32,617
And they my friends.
I've known them since we was little.
633
00:32:32,700 --> 00:32:34,369
We'd do the same things together.
634
00:32:34,452 --> 00:32:36,412
We all from the same neighborhood, so…
635
00:32:36,496 --> 00:32:38,706
I had to make sure
everybody was straight.
636
00:32:39,207 --> 00:32:42,627
[Chico] Boo-ya! [Laughs]
637
00:32:42,710 --> 00:32:43,795
We on the bus.
638
00:32:43,878 --> 00:32:46,798
It stank.
Twenty degrees on this motherfucking bus.
639
00:32:46,881 --> 00:32:48,424
Everybody's baking.
640
00:32:49,300 --> 00:32:51,719
- We is dying, man.
- [Chico] Everybody baking.
641
00:32:53,137 --> 00:32:54,764
Where's my boy?
642
00:32:54,847 --> 00:32:57,183
- [D Roc] We're baking up in the joint.
- [Chico] My boy hot?
643
00:32:57,266 --> 00:32:58,101
Fuck, man.
644
00:32:58,184 --> 00:33:00,395
[Big] I've come to bless you,
to bless you.
645
00:33:00,478 --> 00:33:02,063
- That's what you need.
- Alright.
646
00:33:02,146 --> 00:33:04,232
- I'd never leave you fucked up.
- Get air.
647
00:33:04,315 --> 00:33:06,025
Hit yourself one time for the camera.
648
00:33:06,109 --> 00:33:09,070
Alright, it's hot.
That's how fucking hot it is on this bus.
649
00:33:09,737 --> 00:33:11,197
C's in a bunk.
650
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:14,158
[Lil' Cease] He cared about
the young ones like, "I gotta…
651
00:33:14,242 --> 00:33:16,160
I gotta show them the right way."
652
00:33:16,244 --> 00:33:20,081
We was really important to him,
to get us off the streets, you know?
653
00:33:20,748 --> 00:33:23,793
My life was from Washington Avenue
to Grand Avenue,
654
00:33:23,876 --> 00:33:24,752
and that's it.
655
00:33:25,253 --> 00:33:28,715
This is my melting pot. We thought
it was gonna be for the rest of our life.
656
00:33:29,716 --> 00:33:33,803
[C Gutta] On the block on Fulton Street
where we were all hanging out, kicking it,
657
00:33:33,886 --> 00:33:37,640
we was like fake hip-hop analysts,
658
00:33:37,724 --> 00:33:38,850
me, him, O.
659
00:33:38,933 --> 00:33:42,186
Like, we would sit there
and have debates all day.
660
00:33:42,270 --> 00:33:44,272
Each one of us had our favorite rapper.
661
00:33:44,814 --> 00:33:46,566
My favorite was KRS-One.
662
00:33:46,649 --> 00:33:48,651
O's favorite was Rakim.
663
00:33:48,735 --> 00:33:50,903
Big's favorite was Big Daddy Kane.
664
00:33:50,987 --> 00:33:53,865
♪ Warm it up Kane ♪
665
00:33:53,948 --> 00:33:56,868
We would always analyze somebody flow,
666
00:33:56,951 --> 00:33:58,578
they rhymes, and all of that.
667
00:33:58,661 --> 00:34:01,581
Wasn't like I'mma make music one day.
I'mma be a rapper or…
668
00:34:01,664 --> 00:34:03,207
You know, it wasn't like that.
669
00:34:04,709 --> 00:34:07,295
- [Lil' Cease] Boy draws good.
- [Olie] Whatever, son.
670
00:34:07,378 --> 00:34:10,757
[Hubert] During that time,
I wasn't coming around on Fulton as much.
671
00:34:11,215 --> 00:34:13,176
He started focusing on getting money.
672
00:34:14,469 --> 00:34:16,679
My turntables got dusty.
673
00:34:16,763 --> 00:34:18,598
He wasn't even thinking about music.
674
00:34:18,681 --> 00:34:21,893
It was just about that next dollar
and try to up the hustle.
675
00:34:21,976 --> 00:34:24,896
Keep it flowing.
Make Fulton Street an enterprise.
676
00:34:26,064 --> 00:34:29,067
[C Gutta] When you young,
it's fun for a moment, but…
677
00:34:30,485 --> 00:34:32,945
When the full gravity
of it impacts you,
678
00:34:33,029 --> 00:34:34,238
it's stressful.
679
00:34:34,322 --> 00:34:35,865
You not doing the right thing.
680
00:34:35,948 --> 00:34:37,492
I mean, any civilian
681
00:34:37,575 --> 00:34:40,745
would see that as the right thing to do,
is to call the police on you.
682
00:34:42,663 --> 00:34:44,999
[Lil' Cease]
Big would then grow up fucked up.
683
00:34:45,083 --> 00:34:46,584
His moms had a job.
684
00:34:46,667 --> 00:34:49,712
No, we didn't really realize
what was important at that time.
685
00:34:50,421 --> 00:34:53,382
Like, my moms ain't really know about
everything everything.
686
00:34:53,466 --> 00:34:54,675
You know?
687
00:34:55,259 --> 00:34:57,845
I don't know what he was doing.
He told me he was working.
688
00:34:57,929 --> 00:34:59,013
I believed him.
689
00:35:00,515 --> 00:35:03,643
[Donald] When he started going out
on Fulton Street
690
00:35:03,726 --> 00:35:05,645
and joining in the ranks,
691
00:35:05,728 --> 00:35:08,648
I wasn't too happy.
And initially, I could get him and say,
692
00:35:08,731 --> 00:35:10,566
"Come home," and he would follow me.
693
00:35:11,067 --> 00:35:14,237
Maybe for about a year,
when I'd come off the road.
694
00:35:15,071 --> 00:35:18,366
And then, that part was over.
695
00:35:19,575 --> 00:35:22,453
In my mind, the only thing I could see
was that, you know,
696
00:35:22,537 --> 00:35:24,288
those were guys his age
697
00:35:24,372 --> 00:35:26,374
and that he was bonding with them
698
00:35:26,958 --> 00:35:29,710
and putting some money in his pocket.
699
00:35:29,794 --> 00:35:31,671
That becomes an option,
700
00:35:32,839 --> 00:35:34,757
and he took that option.
701
00:35:37,635 --> 00:35:39,929
We had crack on a plate.
702
00:35:40,012 --> 00:35:42,348
Big used to leave it in his room
703
00:35:42,431 --> 00:35:44,392
to dry near the window.
704
00:35:44,475 --> 00:35:46,602
Hang out for a couple hours to let it dry.
705
00:35:46,686 --> 00:35:48,062
When we came back home,
706
00:35:48,146 --> 00:35:49,981
Ms. Wallace had cleaned his room,
707
00:35:50,064 --> 00:35:53,276
and as soon as he came through the door,
she screamed to him,
708
00:35:53,359 --> 00:35:56,904
"Yo, why are you leaving
all these hard mashed potatoes
709
00:35:56,988 --> 00:35:57,947
in the plate?"
710
00:35:58,030 --> 00:35:59,532
She scraped it in the garbage.
711
00:35:59,991 --> 00:36:02,994
She thought it was like, mashed potatoes
that'd been out for a couple days,
712
00:36:03,077 --> 00:36:04,912
but that was, you know, drugs.
713
00:36:05,872 --> 00:36:07,331
Jesus Christ.
714
00:36:08,499 --> 00:36:10,042
That bastard.
715
00:36:11,169 --> 00:36:12,253
I never knew.
716
00:36:12,336 --> 00:36:15,339
I don't know if a human being
can be so mad at a dead person.
717
00:36:16,132 --> 00:36:17,466
I was mad at my son
718
00:36:18,259 --> 00:36:20,178
for that, that incident.
719
00:36:20,261 --> 00:36:21,637
That's the shocker.
720
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,308
That was a big shocker.
721
00:36:25,391 --> 00:36:28,561
That means he brought it into my house.
722
00:36:29,061 --> 00:36:32,023
He disrespected my house.
723
00:36:33,065 --> 00:36:35,902
That wasn't my son.
That's not the son I wanted.
724
00:36:36,903 --> 00:36:39,572
[Big] There was nothing
she could do to stop a nigga.
725
00:36:39,655 --> 00:36:42,617
So I tell her I'mma stop,
I ain't gonna fuck around no more.
726
00:36:42,700 --> 00:36:45,912
She'd kick me out the crib,
but I'd just like come back in,
727
00:36:45,995 --> 00:36:48,414
tell her I ain't doing it,
and still be doing it.
728
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:51,042
[rapping]
729
00:37:16,275 --> 00:37:18,861
[C Gutta] Once Big started hustlin',
Big was all in.
730
00:37:19,445 --> 00:37:21,113
Big wanted to be a kingpin.
731
00:37:22,156 --> 00:37:23,699
O had family
732
00:37:24,367 --> 00:37:29,330
that was doing big things
in the drug game.
733
00:37:30,206 --> 00:37:32,750
[Frank Nitti] Olie, better known as Big O,
734
00:37:33,793 --> 00:37:37,380
he worked for his uncle, I-God.
735
00:37:38,422 --> 00:37:41,926
The Bazemores was the family
who down in Brownsville
736
00:37:42,009 --> 00:37:43,636
that you did not fuck with.
737
00:37:44,720 --> 00:37:48,891
It was like all the other kingpins
that you know about in every other story,
738
00:37:48,975 --> 00:37:50,476
the buck stops with them?
739
00:37:50,559 --> 00:37:51,936
The buck stopped with him.
740
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:54,063
Brownsville is a part of Brooklyn
741
00:37:54,146 --> 00:37:57,566
that most would say
is like the roughest part of Brooklyn.
742
00:37:58,234 --> 00:37:59,986
You know, a lot of hood shit.
743
00:38:01,904 --> 00:38:06,325
[C Gutta] At that time, Brownsville,
East New York, held the murder rate
744
00:38:06,409 --> 00:38:07,285
for New York.
745
00:38:07,827 --> 00:38:11,163
And I think that was the year
that New York had the murder rate
746
00:38:11,247 --> 00:38:12,081
for the country.
747
00:38:13,582 --> 00:38:15,418
[Frank] O was a fucking spoiled brat
748
00:38:15,501 --> 00:38:18,379
because his fucking uncle was the guy,
749
00:38:18,462 --> 00:38:20,631
and he knew nobody
could do nothing to him.
750
00:38:20,715 --> 00:38:22,466
He was like the worst little nigga…
751
00:38:22,550 --> 00:38:24,552
[laughs]
752
00:38:24,635 --> 00:38:27,471
He was like the worst little nigga ever.
753
00:38:28,180 --> 00:38:30,683
When Biggie came on our side
to fuck with O,
754
00:38:30,766 --> 00:38:32,018
he was always rhyming.
755
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:34,020
He got the best flow.
756
00:38:34,562 --> 00:38:35,771
His swagger's like,
757
00:38:35,855 --> 00:38:39,442
"I ain't got to be the handsomest.
I ain't got to be the in-shape nigga.
758
00:38:39,525 --> 00:38:42,778
I'mma kill you with these jokes,
with my social skills."
759
00:38:42,862 --> 00:38:46,532
Like, he was always trying shit out on you
like, "Yo, check this one out."
760
00:38:46,615 --> 00:38:49,744
O was gonna do whatever the fuck it took
to get Biggie on.
761
00:38:49,827 --> 00:38:51,120
[D Roc] Olie was always thinking.
762
00:38:51,203 --> 00:38:53,831
He was always trying to find out
the next best move.
763
00:38:54,457 --> 00:38:57,626
[C Gutta] Big already had the thing with,
you know, his size.
764
00:38:57,710 --> 00:38:59,128
He got the lazy eye,
765
00:38:59,211 --> 00:39:02,590
so people cracked jokes on Big
since he was little,
766
00:39:02,673 --> 00:39:04,133
but Big was immune to that.
767
00:39:04,216 --> 00:39:05,468
But at the same time,
768
00:39:05,551 --> 00:39:07,636
Big never wanted to get his hopes up,
769
00:39:07,720 --> 00:39:09,722
and then somebody crush his hopes.
770
00:39:10,431 --> 00:39:13,184
[Hubert] The dream of being a rapper
was fading away,
771
00:39:13,267 --> 00:39:16,062
and it was more of the dream
or the focus of being a hustler.
772
00:39:16,645 --> 00:39:19,190
So, you know, Roland pushed him,
773
00:39:19,273 --> 00:39:20,941
like pretty… Like, "You got it."
774
00:39:21,025 --> 00:39:25,071
I remember he just would, like I said,
say, you know, once he makes it,
775
00:39:25,154 --> 00:39:26,530
that we all made it.
776
00:39:28,032 --> 00:39:30,910
[indistinct rap music playing]
777
00:39:31,660 --> 00:39:35,414
[D Roc] I mean timing is everything,
but that day that you're talking about,
778
00:39:35,998 --> 00:39:37,708
it all played a part in the story.
779
00:39:37,792 --> 00:39:38,626
Definitely.
780
00:39:38,709 --> 00:39:40,378
That's why we talking about it.
781
00:39:41,504 --> 00:39:44,173
Big started coming down on Bedford
and Quincy with me.
782
00:39:44,256 --> 00:39:46,884
My neighborhood was kind of more hood-ish.
783
00:39:48,928 --> 00:39:50,763
And, you know, it was just…
784
00:39:51,722 --> 00:39:53,307
It was a little different, man.
785
00:39:54,308 --> 00:39:56,352
Fifty Grand was down on my end,
786
00:39:56,435 --> 00:39:58,771
bringing his radio out on Bedford,
787
00:39:58,854 --> 00:40:01,315
doing the block parties,
bringing his set out.
788
00:40:03,609 --> 00:40:07,154
I'm the bridge from Big to 50 Grand.
789
00:40:08,489 --> 00:40:10,616
D Roc used to be with us
on Bedford Avenue.
790
00:40:10,699 --> 00:40:12,868
We all hustled out there on Bedford.
791
00:40:12,952 --> 00:40:15,496
He said,
"I'mma bring a kid around to meet you."
792
00:40:16,288 --> 00:40:17,248
For real.
793
00:40:18,249 --> 00:40:19,583
Guaranteed real.
794
00:40:20,501 --> 00:40:22,837
His original rap name was MC Cwest.
795
00:40:23,838 --> 00:40:25,631
When he came on Bedford, he was Biggie.
796
00:40:26,757 --> 00:40:28,592
But on the Big and 'Preme battle,
797
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:31,345
'Preme got on the mic.
798
00:40:31,429 --> 00:40:33,139
They was battling.
799
00:40:34,306 --> 00:40:36,308
[rapping]
800
00:40:40,771 --> 00:40:42,565
[D Roc] When 'Preme was rapping to Big,
801
00:40:42,648 --> 00:40:44,358
I had a white washcloth or something.
802
00:40:44,442 --> 00:40:47,820
I had wrapped it around my hand
because I didn't know what was going on.
803
00:40:47,903 --> 00:40:50,406
I'm like, "Damn, we don't know this dude
and he's talking shit."
804
00:40:50,489 --> 00:40:52,658
So I was looking, like,
"Should I beat this dude up?"
805
00:40:52,741 --> 00:40:54,660
Black-ass giant. You scared?
806
00:40:54,743 --> 00:40:55,786
Don't be scared.
807
00:40:57,830 --> 00:41:01,542
Even if you look at the battle
between Biggie and 'Preme, it's like,
808
00:41:01,625 --> 00:41:05,087
you're 'Preme,
and you're like 5'3 ", 5'4".
809
00:41:05,171 --> 00:41:07,423
You on the mic,
and your voice sound tinny,
810
00:41:07,506 --> 00:41:09,341
and don't… It sounds thin.
811
00:41:10,301 --> 00:41:13,220
Big towering over
this little bald-headed dude,
812
00:41:13,304 --> 00:41:15,681
dancing around and acting…
Looking like a fool.
813
00:41:15,764 --> 00:41:18,559
Big comin', like, you know,
814
00:41:18,642 --> 00:41:19,977
like just with presence.
815
00:41:20,060 --> 00:41:23,772
I don't even know if Big really understood
his Jamaican roots.
816
00:41:23,856 --> 00:41:26,942
Just the history of Jamaican DJs
817
00:41:27,026 --> 00:41:29,778
from what was called chatting on the mic.
818
00:41:30,362 --> 00:41:32,198
The braggadocious…
819
00:41:33,741 --> 00:41:35,284
Mic presence was important.
820
00:41:35,868 --> 00:41:37,244
And Big had that.
821
00:41:37,328 --> 00:41:40,664
That's what set him different
from some of the other street rappers
822
00:41:40,748 --> 00:41:41,916
was that mic presence.
823
00:41:42,500 --> 00:41:44,793
[Big] I'm just trying to rip the hardest,
824
00:41:44,877 --> 00:41:46,003
hardest rhymes.
825
00:41:46,086 --> 00:41:48,339
I just want to just be the hardest MC.
826
00:41:48,881 --> 00:41:50,758
I'm just trying to keep that notch.
827
00:41:51,926 --> 00:41:53,928
[rapping]
828
00:42:33,968 --> 00:42:36,845
Live in action, Guaranteed Raw,
you dumb-ass niggas!
829
00:42:38,389 --> 00:42:39,974
Whoo, whoo, whoo!
830
00:42:41,058 --> 00:42:43,852
[50 Grand] When Big came on Bedford
and they seen what he did to the mic,
831
00:42:43,936 --> 00:42:45,104
ain't nobody wanna touch it.
832
00:42:45,187 --> 00:42:47,481
Now there was a few rappers out there,
833
00:42:47,565 --> 00:42:49,567
but on the ave, Big was the guy.
834
00:42:49,650 --> 00:42:50,943
Living at the top.
835
00:42:51,026 --> 00:42:52,987
I felt a sense of pride.
836
00:42:53,070 --> 00:42:55,281
Big wasn't from that avenue.
837
00:42:55,364 --> 00:42:57,199
This is the guy that I brought here.
838
00:42:57,283 --> 00:42:59,243
That… he hustles, smokes, drinks.
839
00:42:59,326 --> 00:43:01,370
He do all the shit we do. Y'know?
840
00:43:01,453 --> 00:43:03,038
The same shit, plus he raps.
841
00:43:03,122 --> 00:43:05,499
So I kind of had a up on everybody.
842
00:43:06,125 --> 00:43:07,876
[laughs]
843
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:09,587
[C Gutta] And they came back to the crib.
844
00:43:09,670 --> 00:43:10,963
O was trying to tell him,
845
00:43:11,046 --> 00:43:12,464
"Need to make a demo.
846
00:43:12,548 --> 00:43:14,466
We take it to Def Jam."
847
00:43:15,342 --> 00:43:17,428
[50 Grand] Got some beers. Got some weed.
848
00:43:17,511 --> 00:43:18,887
Took him to the basement.
849
00:43:18,971 --> 00:43:22,224
You had a turntable, a mixer, a tape deck,
850
00:43:22,308 --> 00:43:26,020
and then surrounding the whole basement
was Olde English bottles.
851
00:43:26,645 --> 00:43:27,646
That's about it.
852
00:43:27,730 --> 00:43:30,482
[Big raps] ♪ A whole lot of niggas
Want Big to make a demo tape ♪
853
00:43:30,566 --> 00:43:33,277
He knew everything he wanted.
All that was new to me.
854
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:36,071
He'd say, "Stop this right here.
Get this record.
855
00:43:36,155 --> 00:43:39,158
Throw it on. Just play this certain hook,
back to the beat."
856
00:43:39,241 --> 00:43:40,492
I did what he said.
857
00:43:40,576 --> 00:43:43,579
Me and my DJ, 50, we used to be
on Bedford Avenue, you know,
858
00:43:43,662 --> 00:43:44,913
makin' tapes and shit.
859
00:43:45,623 --> 00:43:48,417
And everything we did, he taped.
860
00:43:48,500 --> 00:43:51,337
Everything,
every kind of little freestyle we did,
861
00:43:51,420 --> 00:43:52,671
he just would record it,
862
00:43:52,755 --> 00:43:54,757
till he had like seven or eight joints.
863
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:57,343
It took us about an hour,
not even an hour.
864
00:43:58,010 --> 00:43:58,886
Not even that long.
865
00:43:58,969 --> 00:44:00,763
- So everything was one take?
- Yeah.
866
00:44:01,347 --> 00:44:03,515
[Big rapping]
867
00:44:11,357 --> 00:44:13,359
The next step: Mister Cee.
868
00:44:13,442 --> 00:44:16,195
- That's when I come in, huh?
- Yeah.
869
00:44:16,278 --> 00:44:18,906
At that time, I was getting ready
to go on the road
870
00:44:18,989 --> 00:44:19,990
with Big Daddy Kane.
871
00:44:20,074 --> 00:44:22,868
♪ Move over bacon
There's something meatier ♪
872
00:44:23,577 --> 00:44:25,537
Fifty Grand had told me about this demo
873
00:44:25,621 --> 00:44:27,665
on this dude Big from Fulton Street.
874
00:44:27,748 --> 00:44:30,626
But I listened to it,
and I was blown away.
875
00:44:32,419 --> 00:44:35,297
A lot of rappers in the early '90s,
876
00:44:35,381 --> 00:44:40,678
a lot of cats were still holding onto
the way that a Kane and a Rakim sounded.
877
00:44:41,136 --> 00:44:43,555
But Big's rhyme pattern
878
00:44:43,639 --> 00:44:47,059
just sounded way more advanced
than what I had heard.
879
00:44:47,142 --> 00:44:47,976
It like…
880
00:44:57,403 --> 00:45:00,698
It was different from anything
that I'd heard at that time.
881
00:45:01,448 --> 00:45:03,742
So I told 50 and Biggie
that we should give it
882
00:45:03,826 --> 00:45:05,828
to Matty C at The Source Magazine.
883
00:45:06,286 --> 00:45:08,539
First thing Big said to me,
"Man, you know,
884
00:45:08,622 --> 00:45:12,876
don't be promising me nothing, man.
Don't be saying you're gonna do something
885
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:14,294
if you can't do it."
886
00:45:14,378 --> 00:45:16,588
So I was like,
"Nah, I'mma send it to Matty, we gonna see
887
00:45:16,672 --> 00:45:18,132
what's gonna happen from there."
888
00:45:27,433 --> 00:45:31,270
In '91, '92, The Source
was the Rolling Stone of hip-hop.
889
00:45:31,353 --> 00:45:33,814
The "Unsigned Hype" was this column
890
00:45:33,897 --> 00:45:36,400
where we would feature
a new talent once a month.
891
00:45:36,483 --> 00:45:39,570
Artists that really had big success
in the "Unsigned Hype,"
892
00:45:39,653 --> 00:45:42,448
including Mobb Deep, Common, DMX.
893
00:45:42,948 --> 00:45:45,534
[Lil' Cease] The Source, we thought
it was the coolest shit.
894
00:45:45,659 --> 00:45:47,119
I think that was any kid's dream.
895
00:45:47,202 --> 00:45:49,580
You wanted to be in the light,
you wanted to be the shit.
896
00:45:49,663 --> 00:45:52,458
The first five, ten seconds of it
897
00:45:52,541 --> 00:45:54,376
was really all I needed to hear.
898
00:45:55,627 --> 00:45:59,465
Matty was like, "Yo, we want to feature
the demo in the "Unsigned Hype."
899
00:45:59,548 --> 00:46:01,049
We need to do a photo shoot.
900
00:46:01,133 --> 00:46:02,885
I hired the photographer
901
00:46:02,968 --> 00:46:05,846
that actually did me
and Big Daddy Kane's album covers
902
00:46:05,929 --> 00:46:08,849
to do the photo shoot
with 50 Grand and Biggie
903
00:46:08,932 --> 00:46:11,018
on the corner of Bedford and Quincy.
904
00:46:11,101 --> 00:46:13,312
[camera shutter clicks]
905
00:46:13,395 --> 00:46:16,648
[D Roc] It was a big deal. It was all over
the neighborhood, everybody had the thing.
906
00:46:16,732 --> 00:46:18,484
It's like, "Yo, you see Big in 'Unsigned'?"
907
00:46:18,567 --> 00:46:21,695
Yo, this is my man!"
Like, "Oh my God!" That shit got crazy.
908
00:46:21,779 --> 00:46:23,197
[camera shutter clicks]
909
00:46:24,323 --> 00:46:26,658
I think that was the button
that pushed to make him like,
910
00:46:26,742 --> 00:46:30,204
"I'm gonna go hard with this shit.
All these people show me attention.
911
00:46:30,287 --> 00:46:32,790
Matty C and all these people put me
in The Source.
912
00:46:32,873 --> 00:46:34,708
Maybe I can do it as a rapper."
913
00:46:34,792 --> 00:46:36,210
[camera shutter clicks]
914
00:46:36,835 --> 00:46:40,297
When I got the call from P. Diddy,
Puffy at the time,
915
00:46:40,380 --> 00:46:43,050
"Do you have any new material?"
I brought the tape up.
916
00:46:43,133 --> 00:46:45,886
[dramatic piano melody playing]
917
00:46:48,639 --> 00:46:51,642
When I heard it, I was like,
918
00:46:52,309 --> 00:46:53,644
"What the fuck?"
919
00:46:54,686 --> 00:46:55,687
I was like…
920
00:46:57,022 --> 00:46:59,483
I was like, "Thank you, God.
921
00:46:59,566 --> 00:47:02,820
This is one of the greatest MCs
I've ever heard."
922
00:47:05,155 --> 00:47:09,284
This is during the time of LL Cool.
Everybody's like having to be sexy,
923
00:47:09,368 --> 00:47:11,036
light skin, extra pretty,
924
00:47:11,119 --> 00:47:12,663
lips moisturized.
925
00:47:13,163 --> 00:47:15,374
I think Big's lips was a little cracked.
926
00:47:15,457 --> 00:47:18,794
He looked like he was just out
in the street hustlin'.
927
00:47:19,837 --> 00:47:21,922
And I was just calling Mister Cee,
928
00:47:22,005 --> 00:47:25,133
who had Brooklyn on lock,
and knew everybody out there.
929
00:47:25,217 --> 00:47:28,053
I was from Harlem,
I couldn't just go over the bridge
930
00:47:28,136 --> 00:47:30,681
and be going into neighborhoods,
asking for Biggie.
931
00:47:31,473 --> 00:47:35,477
[Mister Cee] You know, Harlem cats
is always known as being the flashy,
932
00:47:35,561 --> 00:47:36,687
the gloss.
933
00:47:37,229 --> 00:47:40,065
- And where we come from in Bed-Stuy…
- [50 Grand] And Brooklyn was grimy.
934
00:47:40,148 --> 00:47:42,234
…you know, we… This is hood.
935
00:47:42,317 --> 00:47:45,571
I didn't know the streets of Brooklyn.
I knew the streets of Harlem.
936
00:47:45,654 --> 00:47:48,657
Nobody went to Bed-Stuy
'cause you was just gonna get robbed.
937
00:47:49,157 --> 00:47:51,869
The first meeting was with me,
938
00:47:52,494 --> 00:47:54,746
Biggie, and Puff.
939
00:47:56,957 --> 00:47:58,458
I'll never forget,
it was a winter day.
940
00:47:58,542 --> 00:48:00,544
I don't remember the month
but it was winter.
941
00:48:00,627 --> 00:48:02,963
We both had our winter jackets on.
It was cold.
942
00:48:06,466 --> 00:48:09,011
We go upstairs and, you know,
see the receptionist.
943
00:48:09,094 --> 00:48:11,346
"We're here to see Puff."
We go in his office.
944
00:48:11,430 --> 00:48:15,309
No sooner do we sit down,
Puff asked Big to kick a rhyme.
945
00:48:15,392 --> 00:48:17,811
He was like, "I want you
to kick a rhyme for me right now."
946
00:48:18,353 --> 00:48:20,314
Because the demo tape was so good,
947
00:48:20,397 --> 00:48:25,110
I almost didn't believe
that he could be this nice.
948
00:48:25,694 --> 00:48:28,322
I see this rawness when he freestyles
in front of me,
949
00:48:28,405 --> 00:48:30,407
but it's still… It's great.
950
00:48:30,490 --> 00:48:35,370
It's like… It's 48 bars of pure fire.
951
00:48:35,454 --> 00:48:39,374
So I told him like, "You know,
I could get a record.
952
00:48:39,458 --> 00:48:41,835
I wanna get a record out on you soon."
953
00:48:43,295 --> 00:48:44,796
[Voletta] He came one morning.
954
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:47,925
I was in my bed,
and he kneeled on right on my bedside
955
00:48:48,008 --> 00:48:49,426
and told me,
956
00:48:50,135 --> 00:48:52,054
"You know, Mom, this is your life."
957
00:48:52,137 --> 00:48:54,765
Very serious, too.
Very serious conversation.
958
00:48:55,682 --> 00:48:59,645
"You know, you are a teacher.
You went to school.
959
00:48:59,728 --> 00:49:03,315
You're teaching. You're happy.
You want me to be happy?"
960
00:49:03,398 --> 00:49:04,524
"Yes, I do."
961
00:49:05,317 --> 00:49:09,738
He said, "Mom, this is what I'm gonna do,
and it's gonna make me happy."
962
00:49:10,781 --> 00:49:12,908
"And who is gonna help you, Christopher?"
963
00:49:12,991 --> 00:49:14,326
He said, "This…
964
00:49:15,035 --> 00:49:16,453
This guy named Puffy."
965
00:49:16,536 --> 00:49:19,331
He said, "Goddamn Puffy."
966
00:49:20,958 --> 00:49:26,046
I would say the first producer that I put
with Big was Easy Mo Bee.
967
00:49:31,593 --> 00:49:34,805
This one day, the manager
that I had at the time,
968
00:49:34,888 --> 00:49:36,974
she said,
"I want you to go to a meeting"
969
00:49:37,057 --> 00:49:40,227
with Andre Harrell and Puffy
970
00:49:40,310 --> 00:49:43,772
for this new artist, Biggie Smalls.
971
00:49:44,356 --> 00:49:47,359
Come to find out that he lived
around the way.
972
00:49:47,442 --> 00:49:50,195
I was up on Clinton
between Gates and Greene.
973
00:49:50,278 --> 00:49:52,239
That's like around the corner,
974
00:49:52,322 --> 00:49:53,448
three blocks down,
975
00:49:53,532 --> 00:49:55,200
and around the corner.
976
00:49:55,283 --> 00:49:57,536
I was working on the soundtrack
for Who's The Man?
977
00:49:57,619 --> 00:49:59,663
So I kind of had that in my back pocket.
978
00:49:59,746 --> 00:50:01,665
[Matty C] His feature on that was huge
979
00:50:01,748 --> 00:50:04,292
because obviously the movie
then has incentive
980
00:50:04,376 --> 00:50:06,128
to promote and market the song.
981
00:50:07,045 --> 00:50:09,840
This one day when I came around on Fulton,
982
00:50:09,923 --> 00:50:12,843
him and Junior MAFIA, they used to be,
you know,
983
00:50:12,926 --> 00:50:15,053
out on the ave doing they thing.
984
00:50:15,137 --> 00:50:18,515
I'm like, "Yo, Big!
Yo, I got a beat, man.
985
00:50:18,598 --> 00:50:20,684
I need you to hear something.
Jump in the car."
986
00:50:21,226 --> 00:50:24,062
And I played him
the "Party and Bullshit" beat.
987
00:50:24,146 --> 00:50:26,773
[C Gutta] What's up, Biggie?
[D Roc] You know Biggie.
988
00:50:26,857 --> 00:50:29,776
- [D Roc] He just party and bullshit.
- [C Gutta] Everything is cool.
989
00:50:30,277 --> 00:50:35,574
I told him that I had an idea
of the hook that I wanted to put to it.
990
00:50:35,657 --> 00:50:38,160
♪ When the revolution come ♪
991
00:50:38,243 --> 00:50:43,123
♪ But until then, you know, and I know
Niggas will party, and bullshit ♪
992
00:50:43,248 --> 00:50:45,500
♪ And party, and bullshit ♪
993
00:50:45,584 --> 00:50:50,047
♪ And party, and bullshit
And party, and bullshit ♪
994
00:50:50,130 --> 00:50:51,214
He loved it.
995
00:50:52,591 --> 00:50:56,386
"Party and Bullshit" was the first record
that we recorded together,
996
00:50:56,470 --> 00:50:58,764
and it's a hip-hop classic,
997
00:50:58,847 --> 00:51:04,478
and it really started him on his journey
to being a songwriter that wrote songs
998
00:51:04,561 --> 00:51:07,439
that sonically had a cinematic vibe to it.
999
00:51:08,023 --> 00:51:13,153
And through that process,
it kind of gave birth to our sound.
1000
00:51:13,695 --> 00:51:17,115
"Party and Bullshit" is really
the first introduction to Biggie
1001
00:51:17,199 --> 00:51:18,075
the world gets.
1002
00:51:18,700 --> 00:51:20,911
Daytime radio didn't play rap
at that time.
1003
00:51:20,994 --> 00:51:22,204
They played R&B.
1004
00:51:22,746 --> 00:51:26,458
Big pow! Just whoa! Bow!
Just kicked through all those doors.
1005
00:51:26,541 --> 00:51:29,795
♪ And party, and bullshit ♪
1006
00:51:30,045 --> 00:51:32,422
- All we do is bullshit, and party…
- [D Roc] Bullshit... Ahh!
1007
00:51:32,506 --> 00:51:33,590
[Olie] I can dig it.
1008
00:51:34,633 --> 00:51:37,302
[D Roc] I mean, we were standing
on a corner one time and about
1009
00:51:37,385 --> 00:51:41,807
four, five different cars drove by
and was playing "Party and Bullshit."
1010
00:51:42,432 --> 00:51:43,558
I just know this ain't right.
1011
00:51:43,642 --> 00:51:46,478
No way in the world we on the radio
and we still standing on a corner.
1012
00:51:48,313 --> 00:51:51,733
[Big] It was just like that long wait,
even after I signed the contract.
1013
00:51:51,817 --> 00:51:52,692
Know what I'm saying?
1014
00:51:52,776 --> 00:51:54,861
Puff says,
"What's up with the contract?"
1015
00:51:54,945 --> 00:51:57,781
"They coming."
"Okay, I got me a little hustle going on."
1016
00:51:57,864 --> 00:52:00,617
Yo, Puff was the first one I ever told
that shit to.
1017
00:52:00,700 --> 00:52:03,453
"These contracts gonna come,
and you'll get some money."
1018
00:52:03,537 --> 00:52:06,998
I'm like, "Okay, it's all good.
But let me just do what I gotta do.
1019
00:52:07,082 --> 00:52:10,043
You know what I'm saying?
When you ready, just let me know."
1020
00:52:10,710 --> 00:52:11,920
Even though I told him that,
1021
00:52:12,003 --> 00:52:16,967
you know, at the end of the day I left,
and I was going to my condo in Jersey,
1022
00:52:17,050 --> 00:52:20,762
and he was in Brooklyn, having
to figure out how he was going to eat.
1023
00:52:20,846 --> 00:52:23,598
You know, he started to hide it from me.
1024
00:52:54,296 --> 00:52:56,214
[C Gutta] Me and Big would always have
1025
00:52:56,298 --> 00:52:58,466
real heart-to-heart talks, so…
1026
00:52:58,550 --> 00:53:01,178
This is at the time
when it first came to him
1027
00:53:01,261 --> 00:53:02,637
that he could really…
1028
00:53:02,721 --> 00:53:06,600
He was like, "I got a good chance
of really, like, doing it."
1029
00:53:08,727 --> 00:53:10,645
"Like, man, I hope so because, yo,
1030
00:53:11,313 --> 00:53:14,149
I'm either gonna get locked up
or somebody gonna merk me.
1031
00:53:14,232 --> 00:53:19,571
"I can't just keep robbing everybody
I turn the corner on."
1032
00:53:19,654 --> 00:53:22,157
So we would have, you know what I mean,
1033
00:53:23,325 --> 00:53:25,035
conversations like that.
1034
00:53:26,494 --> 00:53:30,332
[Easy Mo Bee] I used to see Big and D Roc
and Junior MAFIA,
1035
00:53:30,999 --> 00:53:33,210
and I don't know. I always wondered like,
1036
00:53:34,836 --> 00:53:37,088
"Yo, they ever been anywhere?"
1037
00:53:38,506 --> 00:53:40,884
I just wanted to, like,
take them off the block.
1038
00:53:40,967 --> 00:53:42,469
If I had it my way,
1039
00:53:42,636 --> 00:53:44,387
they wouldn't have been on the block,
1040
00:53:44,471 --> 00:53:46,514
'cause I didn't really cherish
what they was doing.
1041
00:53:46,598 --> 00:53:49,935
They was doing
what they felt they had to do.
1042
00:53:50,018 --> 00:53:52,979
So, a lot of times I'd come around
with the car,
1043
00:53:53,063 --> 00:53:55,565
and for no reason,
not even just for the music…
1044
00:53:55,649 --> 00:53:57,651
Of course, I got music in the car.
1045
00:53:57,734 --> 00:53:59,402
But I'll come and I'll scoop 'em up.
1046
00:53:59,486 --> 00:54:01,613
They'd be on the ave.
Look like he's slumping.
1047
00:54:01,696 --> 00:54:04,491
[Big] Look at this fat nigga Rerun.
You going somewhere else.
1048
00:54:04,574 --> 00:54:06,701
I'd be like, "Come on,
let's take a ride."
1049
00:54:09,704 --> 00:54:15,627
[moody electronic music playing]
1050
00:54:19,631 --> 00:54:21,007
We would ride anywhere.
1051
00:54:21,091 --> 00:54:22,842
Like, I'd jump on the belt
1052
00:54:22,926 --> 00:54:25,512
and just ride all the way up the belt.
1053
00:54:30,267 --> 00:54:31,810
And during them rides,
1054
00:54:32,894 --> 00:54:36,398
I got a chance to see
a little bit more of him.
1055
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:41,736
He would talk to me, man.
1056
00:54:41,820 --> 00:54:44,072
He was talking about
how his moms was sick.
1057
00:54:44,948 --> 00:54:46,741
She had the cancer on her breast.
1058
00:54:46,825 --> 00:54:50,996
And he was like,
"Yo, Mo, I'm telling you, man.
1059
00:54:51,079 --> 00:54:53,581
It's hard, man. It's hard right now."
1060
00:54:53,665 --> 00:54:55,750
He's like, "I gotta make it."
1061
00:54:58,253 --> 00:55:00,463
I remember specifically he saying,
1062
00:55:00,547 --> 00:55:03,049
"Yo, if this shit
with Puff here don't work,
1063
00:55:03,133 --> 00:55:04,718
I'm going back to the streets."
1064
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:08,930
And I didn't want to see that happen.
1065
00:55:16,521 --> 00:55:19,524
So, my part that I could do
1066
00:55:19,607 --> 00:55:21,401
was make the best music,
1067
00:55:21,484 --> 00:55:22,902
the most banging music,
1068
00:55:22,986 --> 00:55:24,988
that could help be the vehicle
1069
00:55:25,071 --> 00:55:28,199
to take him on out and blow up.
1070
00:55:29,409 --> 00:55:31,619
So when I made music, I made music like,
1071
00:55:31,703 --> 00:55:35,749
"Yo, like, we both, we getting outta here.
We movin' up."
1072
00:55:36,291 --> 00:55:38,293
[Big rapping]
1073
00:55:42,672 --> 00:55:45,759
Christopher, I think,
those times, he was just
1074
00:55:46,259 --> 00:55:49,429
into the studio working, working, working.
1075
00:55:49,512 --> 00:55:50,347
I never…
1076
00:55:50,889 --> 00:55:52,515
I didn't want to stress him out.
1077
00:55:53,183 --> 00:55:55,685
But you could see he was worried
1078
00:55:55,769 --> 00:55:59,773
that I was going to go in,
and maybe cancer came up.
1079
00:55:59,856 --> 00:56:03,902
But I never really, you know,
talk about it
1080
00:56:04,444 --> 00:56:06,404
because I want him to get on
with his life.
1081
00:56:06,488 --> 00:56:08,698
I don't want him to say,
"My mom," you know.
1082
00:56:08,782 --> 00:56:11,743
I said, "I'm going to be okay."
1083
00:56:11,826 --> 00:56:13,286
With her, it's different.
1084
00:56:13,370 --> 00:56:15,538
That's Mom Duke.
What am I supposed to be like
1085
00:56:15,622 --> 00:56:17,499
when she had cancer and shit?
1086
00:56:17,999 --> 00:56:21,294
What am I supposed to be like?
"Fuck you! Get your own tea!"
1087
00:56:22,670 --> 00:56:24,547
No, that's Mom Duke, you know?
1088
00:56:24,631 --> 00:56:26,383
I got to take care of my moms.
1089
00:56:26,466 --> 00:56:29,969
I'm the only nigga she got.
Ain't nobody else up in this motherfucker.
1090
00:56:30,845 --> 00:56:32,472
When I first went to…
1091
00:56:34,265 --> 00:56:37,519
You know, hook up with Puff,
I was like the personal assistant.
1092
00:56:37,602 --> 00:56:38,603
I did it all.
1093
00:56:39,187 --> 00:56:40,772
Big had a meeting with Puff,
1094
00:56:40,855 --> 00:56:45,318
and I remember walking into his office,
1095
00:56:45,402 --> 00:56:48,321
and I see this big dude,
1096
00:56:48,405 --> 00:56:49,823
his back was turned,
1097
00:56:50,490 --> 00:56:52,659
in camouflage.
1098
00:56:53,451 --> 00:56:56,496
He had a hoodie on.
He turned on, had these dark glasses.
1099
00:56:57,414 --> 00:56:58,832
And I was like, "Damn!"
1100
00:56:58,915 --> 00:57:01,459
You just felt his presence.
1101
00:57:01,543 --> 00:57:04,629
And we just got close.
1102
00:57:04,712 --> 00:57:06,172
You know, we connected.
1103
00:57:07,215 --> 00:57:09,050
I lost my mother at 15
1104
00:57:09,134 --> 00:57:11,094
from cancer,
1105
00:57:11,177 --> 00:57:14,264
and when Ms. Wallace was going through
her scare,
1106
00:57:14,347 --> 00:57:16,099
Big was always nervous.
1107
00:57:16,683 --> 00:57:20,145
And I told her, "I'm gonna hold him down.
You got my word."
1108
00:57:20,228 --> 00:57:22,814
I always meet Mark, and Mark told me.
1109
00:57:23,314 --> 00:57:26,401
He said, "You know,
whatever he's doing, it's legit."
1110
00:57:27,485 --> 00:57:28,611
So I trusted Mark.
1111
00:57:28,695 --> 00:57:30,780
I said, "Excuse me?
Well, that's the case.
1112
00:57:30,864 --> 00:57:34,409
I'm going to trust you with him."
1113
00:57:36,077 --> 00:57:37,620
[Mark] All I could do to keep him busy,
1114
00:57:37,704 --> 00:57:40,498
whether it be trying to book some shows,
1115
00:57:40,582 --> 00:57:41,583
book a show or two.
1116
00:57:42,584 --> 00:57:45,044
[C Gutta] One night I can remember
in particular.
1117
00:57:45,128 --> 00:57:46,588
Paul Robeson Theatre.
1118
00:57:49,382 --> 00:57:51,259
Yeah!
1119
00:57:51,342 --> 00:57:53,261
Give it up!
1120
00:57:53,344 --> 00:57:56,848
O was just always on the side of him
saying, "Yo, focus on that, man.
1121
00:57:56,931 --> 00:57:59,476
That's something for you to go at
that's solid."
1122
00:58:03,813 --> 00:58:05,315
O was always doing that.
1123
00:58:05,398 --> 00:58:09,319
O was promoting Big
at the little spots we was at.
1124
00:58:13,656 --> 00:58:16,618
[Big] Motherfuckin' exhausted.
1125
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:19,537
Y'all gonna find out
who the fuck is in the house!
1126
00:58:19,621 --> 00:58:22,123
[crowd cheering]
1127
00:58:23,833 --> 00:58:25,585
[C Gutta] And Big ripped it down.
1128
00:58:27,712 --> 00:58:29,255
Everybody lost it.
1129
00:58:30,089 --> 00:58:33,259
♪ I got seven Mack 11's
About eight 38's ♪
1130
00:58:33,343 --> 00:58:36,179
♪ Nine 9's, ten mack tens
The shits never ends ♪
1131
00:58:36,262 --> 00:58:37,722
♪ You can't touch my riches ♪
1132
00:58:37,805 --> 00:58:40,975
♪ Even if you had MC Hammer
And them 357 bitches ♪
1133
00:58:41,059 --> 00:58:42,644
We just jumping.
1134
00:58:42,727 --> 00:58:44,270
♪ …the mansion, the yacht ♪
1135
00:58:44,354 --> 00:58:48,149
♪ The two weed spots, the two hot glocks
That's how I got the weed spot ♪
1136
00:58:48,233 --> 00:58:51,569
♪ I shot dread in the head
Took the bread and the landspread… ♪
1137
00:58:56,241 --> 00:58:57,909
[Big] My man was like hyping me.
1138
00:58:57,992 --> 00:59:00,078
Everywhere we go,
me and O be together,
1139
00:59:00,161 --> 00:59:03,373
and the nigga be like, "Watch.
When my man get on, it'll be shit.
1140
00:59:03,456 --> 00:59:05,833
We ain't gonna have
to sell this shit no more."
1141
00:59:10,922 --> 00:59:12,632
[Voletta] I was coming from work,
1142
00:59:13,550 --> 00:59:15,635
and I saw Christopher out.
1143
00:59:17,011 --> 00:59:20,265
He said, "Ma, guess what?"
I said, "What?"
1144
00:59:20,348 --> 00:59:21,599
"Olie was shot."
1145
00:59:22,308 --> 00:59:24,561
I said, "What do you mean?
He's in the hospital?"
1146
00:59:25,061 --> 00:59:27,230
He goes, "No, Ma, Olie's dead."
1147
00:59:35,071 --> 00:59:37,657
[Frank] Some things is about principle.
1148
00:59:39,325 --> 00:59:42,036
And some things is about loyalty.
1149
00:59:42,787 --> 00:59:44,539
When you a man of principle,
1150
00:59:45,915 --> 00:59:48,334
and a man that stands for a code,
1151
00:59:50,086 --> 00:59:52,422
and somebody violate those things…
1152
00:59:54,882 --> 00:59:55,717
Shit happens.
1153
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:56,801
And…
1154
00:59:58,177 --> 00:59:59,679
O's death…
1155
01:00:01,848 --> 01:00:03,516
Wasn't really about money.
1156
01:00:04,100 --> 01:00:07,312
It had a lot to do with principle.
1157
01:00:09,022 --> 01:00:12,692
[Jasmine] I-God entered the store
with a hoodie on, then…
1158
01:00:14,110 --> 01:00:17,030
The uncle shot the nephew,
1159
01:00:17,113 --> 01:00:20,617
and the store owners returned fire.
1160
01:00:20,700 --> 01:00:23,077
And that's how the uncle
was shot and killed.
1161
01:00:25,371 --> 01:00:27,582
It's a war zone.
I never seen it so bad.
1162
01:00:27,665 --> 01:00:31,628
You know, I mean, there's been drugs
when it was in the '60s and '70s,
1163
01:00:31,711 --> 01:00:33,713
but this crack thing, man,
1164
01:00:33,796 --> 01:00:37,300
it's like an explosion,
like Mount Saint Helens, you know.
1165
01:00:37,383 --> 01:00:39,802
[reporter] This shooting,
to you is no surprise.
1166
01:00:39,886 --> 01:00:42,555
Nah, this is like a regular.
1167
01:00:42,639 --> 01:00:43,723
Bodies everywhere.
1168
01:00:43,806 --> 01:00:45,266
And we lost our man, O.
1169
01:00:45,350 --> 01:00:46,559
O got murdered.
1170
01:00:47,602 --> 01:00:48,978
Suif locked down.
1171
01:00:49,729 --> 01:00:52,398
Only real original member of the ave
1172
01:00:52,482 --> 01:00:54,984
that's still out there
is like me and Chic.
1173
01:00:55,943 --> 01:00:56,903
That's about it.
1174
01:00:57,528 --> 01:01:00,073
Do you feel lucky,
like you were meant to survive?
1175
01:01:00,573 --> 01:01:03,159
Definitely, when O got killed,
'cause I was supposed to be with him.
1176
01:01:03,242 --> 01:01:04,494
You know what I'm saying?
1177
01:01:05,078 --> 01:01:07,997
When I got the call he got murdered.
That shit shook me up.
1178
01:01:08,498 --> 01:01:09,749
You know what I'm saying?
1179
01:01:10,541 --> 01:01:14,295
Like, Fulton Street right now,
it's a bad luck avenue.
1180
01:01:14,379 --> 01:01:16,464
If you was to go do something on Fulton,
1181
01:01:16,547 --> 01:01:20,134
it may start off prosperous.
It may look good for a long time,
1182
01:01:20,218 --> 01:01:22,845
but believe me,
something gonna happen wrong.
1183
01:01:23,388 --> 01:01:26,015
That's just the way it is on Fulton.
It's just taboo.
1184
01:01:27,225 --> 01:01:30,353
It was kind of like a "let me
straighten myself up for my boy."
1185
01:01:30,436 --> 01:01:31,646
I don't even…
1186
01:01:31,729 --> 01:01:34,107
I don't want to jeopardize that,
wind up where he at.
1187
01:01:34,190 --> 01:01:36,693
That's not what he wants,
so I want to do this for Olie,
1188
01:01:36,776 --> 01:01:37,902
I'mma do this for my peoples.
1189
01:01:37,985 --> 01:01:39,821
I wanna try to get us out the hood.
1190
01:01:41,030 --> 01:01:45,034
♪ Who the fuck is this?
Paging me at 5:46 in the morning ♪
1191
01:01:45,118 --> 01:01:47,078
♪ Crack of dawn and now I'm yawning ♪
1192
01:01:47,161 --> 01:01:49,163
♪ Wipe the cold out my eye ♪
1193
01:01:49,247 --> 01:01:52,208
♪ See who's this paging me and why ♪
1194
01:01:52,291 --> 01:01:54,669
Everything changed,
in the way he approached the studio,
1195
01:01:54,752 --> 01:01:56,879
the way he was writing his rhymes.
1196
01:01:56,963 --> 01:01:59,465
Like, "I'm in album mode."
Like, this shit is real.
1197
01:01:59,549 --> 01:02:00,425
This is it.
1198
01:02:01,092 --> 01:02:02,593
[Big] The album's called Ready to Die.
1199
01:02:02,677 --> 01:02:05,304
It's just a big pile of different things
that happened in my life.
1200
01:02:05,847 --> 01:02:08,224
♪ I'm ready to die
And nobody can save me ♪
1201
01:02:08,307 --> 01:02:10,977
♪ Fuck the world
Fuck my moms and my girl ♪
1202
01:02:11,060 --> 01:02:13,020
♪ My life is played out
Like a Jheri curl ♪
1203
01:02:13,104 --> 01:02:14,105
♪ I'm ready to die! ♪
1204
01:02:14,689 --> 01:02:16,733
[Easy Mo Bee]
And towards the end of the first verse,
1205
01:02:16,816 --> 01:02:17,859
that line,
1206
01:02:18,609 --> 01:02:21,904
"Fuck the world, fuck my moms and my girl.
1207
01:02:21,988 --> 01:02:25,158
My life is played out like a Jheri curl.
I'm ready to die!"
1208
01:02:25,241 --> 01:02:27,034
And he came out the booth.
1209
01:02:27,660 --> 01:02:31,038
I was like, "Yo, you know
you just said fuck your moms?"
1210
01:02:32,123 --> 01:02:35,793
He's like, "Yo, I'm not ready to die."
He said, "That's just…
1211
01:02:36,294 --> 01:02:39,380
That's just an extension
of, like, how I feel, man.
1212
01:02:39,464 --> 01:02:43,342
"Like, how serious it is for me right now."
1213
01:02:44,177 --> 01:02:45,887
[Big] A nigga just be like, "Yo."
1214
01:02:46,429 --> 01:02:49,140
Fuck! If I was dead,
I wouldn't have to worry about nothing.
1215
01:02:49,223 --> 01:02:51,851
I could just lay up.
Either I'd be in heaven or hell.
1216
01:02:51,934 --> 01:02:53,728
I'd be laying the fuck up, chilling.
1217
01:02:53,811 --> 01:02:55,813
I wouldn't have to worry about
no problems.
1218
01:02:55,897 --> 01:02:58,816
That's what I was on.
I wasn't on no killing myself shit.
1219
01:02:58,900 --> 01:03:01,986
I was just saying if I was dead,
I'd be a lot better off.
1220
01:03:02,069 --> 01:03:05,531
- We go into a little writing room.
- [Big] Y'all turn the A/C on here?
1221
01:03:06,032 --> 01:03:09,452
He need A/C, a big guy.
Big guys sweat a lot, you know.
1222
01:03:09,535 --> 01:03:12,455
- [Big] Fuck other big guys.
- Talking about a dirty motherfucker.
1223
01:03:12,538 --> 01:03:15,124
[Fab 5 Freddy] That's one of
the great things about Ready to Die,
1224
01:03:15,208 --> 01:03:18,002
was the relationship with Puff.
1225
01:03:18,586 --> 01:03:21,005
I liken it to the working relationship
1226
01:03:21,088 --> 01:03:25,092
of a great cinematic director
and a great actor.
1227
01:03:25,176 --> 01:03:28,346
Let's just take… Coppola and Pacino.
1228
01:03:28,429 --> 01:03:31,933
Let's take Scorsese and De Niro.
1229
01:03:32,475 --> 01:03:35,812
They work very closely
in a collaborative way.
1230
01:03:36,479 --> 01:03:40,399
[P. Diddy] My concept of making records
was always about putting movies on wax.
1231
01:03:40,483 --> 01:03:43,653
I want you to be able to close your eyes,
and wherever you're at, I wanna be able
1232
01:03:43,736 --> 01:03:49,909
to teleport you into, you know,
a Land Cruiser Jeep in Brooklyn.
1233
01:03:49,992 --> 01:03:53,704
I want you to be able to smell the street,
feel the heat, you know.
1234
01:03:53,788 --> 01:03:55,248
I want you to feel it.
1235
01:03:56,999 --> 01:04:00,211
[Matty C] I stopped by his house every day
during the making of Ready to Die
1236
01:04:00,294 --> 01:04:02,672
because I lived a couple of blocks away
1237
01:04:02,755 --> 01:04:05,007
and had to walk by his house
to get the train.
1238
01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:10,346
And so we just basically would communicate
by playing each other music.
1239
01:04:10,429 --> 01:04:13,349
Stuff like Jeru the Damaja, Wu-Tang.
1240
01:04:13,933 --> 01:04:15,560
The Chronic was, you know,
1241
01:04:15,643 --> 01:04:18,354
I think the record
that stuck in his head the most.
1242
01:04:19,105 --> 01:04:23,359
[Fab 5 Freddy] There were good records
coming out throughout every period,
1243
01:04:23,442 --> 01:04:26,821
but in the early '90s
New York had gotten a little flat.
1244
01:04:26,904 --> 01:04:30,324
Cats weren't really putting out
as many bangers.
1245
01:04:30,408 --> 01:04:33,244
Other students picked up the ball
and ran with it
1246
01:04:33,327 --> 01:04:36,956
and sometimes took things further
than we here in New York,
1247
01:04:37,039 --> 01:04:39,041
at the epicenter, had done.
1248
01:04:39,125 --> 01:04:42,336
And then the West Coast stepped up,
and they started dropping.
1249
01:04:46,299 --> 01:04:47,967
It was like, "My goodness!"
1250
01:04:48,718 --> 01:04:51,220
We didn't try to go make
the East Coast version of The Chronic.
1251
01:04:51,304 --> 01:04:55,600
We was already making Ready to Die,
but it made us just dig deeper.
1252
01:04:56,475 --> 01:05:00,771
[Big] That's what I think made the west
a lot stronger with their music,
1253
01:05:00,855 --> 01:05:03,816
is because they have movies
like Boyz in the Hood.
1254
01:05:03,900 --> 01:05:05,943
Real shit about their town.
1255
01:05:06,777 --> 01:05:08,237
And that's what I want to do.
1256
01:05:08,321 --> 01:05:10,031
So niggas can know how it is out here.
1257
01:05:10,114 --> 01:05:13,993
You can listen to the music
and see the real everyday struggles.
1258
01:05:14,994 --> 01:05:15,953
[P. Diddy] Some artists,
1259
01:05:16,037 --> 01:05:18,873
you have to really talk them
into sharing their truth,
1260
01:05:19,457 --> 01:05:21,459
sharing everything about their lives.
1261
01:05:22,376 --> 01:05:24,420
From day one, he…
1262
01:05:25,463 --> 01:05:30,009
He raps and always rapped
like he had nothing to lose.
1263
01:05:30,635 --> 01:05:32,803
Ready to Die is an uncomfortable album.
1264
01:05:32,887 --> 01:05:34,597
You know, everything it stands for
1265
01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:37,391
from the first record
down to the last record,
1266
01:05:37,475 --> 01:05:42,521
where you hear an attempted suicide.
1267
01:05:42,605 --> 01:05:48,027
You hear somebody going so low
that they actually gave up.
1268
01:05:48,110 --> 01:05:49,070
[Big rapping]
1269
01:05:52,239 --> 01:05:55,743
The whole album was kind of jarring
to people like that.
1270
01:06:01,999 --> 01:06:04,001
[gunshot, phone drops]
1271
01:06:05,294 --> 01:06:08,631
[P. Diddy] ♪ Ayo, Big? Ayo, Big! ♪
1272
01:06:09,131 --> 01:06:11,926
[interviewer] So what
are we going to look for in your album?
1273
01:06:12,009 --> 01:06:13,803
Is it gonna be some more
"Party and Bullshit"?
1274
01:06:13,886 --> 01:06:17,139
[Big] Nah, yo, it ain't gonna be
no more happy shit.
1275
01:06:18,015 --> 01:06:21,060
See, I had to do a happy song
because that was a happy movie.
1276
01:06:22,144 --> 01:06:25,856
I'm hardcore. Street bound. Thug nigga.
Thug for life.
1277
01:06:26,983 --> 01:06:29,694
[D Roc] I was still knee-deep
in the streets, so I was just like…
1278
01:06:29,777 --> 01:06:32,530
It was just always
that doubt that it wouldn't happen.
1279
01:06:32,613 --> 01:06:34,407
Everybody wanted it, but it was like,
1280
01:06:34,490 --> 01:06:36,784
let's not even get ourselves
all excited about some shit
1281
01:06:36,867 --> 01:06:38,369
that we know won't happen for us.
1282
01:06:38,452 --> 01:06:40,037
That shit don't happen for us.
1283
01:06:42,623 --> 01:06:45,251
[Voletta] I think what Christopher wanted
was to dibble and dabble
1284
01:06:45,334 --> 01:06:50,256
into whatever illegal things
he was doing and try the music.
1285
01:06:50,339 --> 01:06:52,091
If the music worked,
1286
01:06:53,175 --> 01:06:56,095
"Okay, so I'll give that up,
and I'll take the music."
1287
01:06:56,178 --> 01:06:59,390
If the music doesn't work,
"Hello, I'll go do that."
1288
01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:03,352
Jan was visiting the house.
1289
01:07:04,478 --> 01:07:06,856
From what I gathered,
that was his "girlfriend."
1290
01:07:07,481 --> 01:07:08,858
Then, they broke up.
1291
01:07:08,941 --> 01:07:10,818
[Big] Yo, so if I put my doubles on there…
1292
01:07:10,901 --> 01:07:13,988
He was at the studio, but he came home.
1293
01:07:14,071 --> 01:07:16,490
He goes, "Ma. Ma!"
1294
01:07:17,074 --> 01:07:17,992
"Yeah?"
1295
01:07:18,451 --> 01:07:20,077
"Jan's pregnant."
1296
01:07:21,078 --> 01:07:21,912
"Huh?"
1297
01:07:24,123 --> 01:07:27,043
"Are you in a position to be a father?
1298
01:07:27,710 --> 01:07:30,046
What are you... you're gonna get married?"
"Oh, no."
1299
01:07:31,130 --> 01:07:32,506
"Heaven help you."
1300
01:07:38,596 --> 01:07:42,433
When I came to Brooklyn
I was doing office work,
1301
01:07:42,516 --> 01:07:45,186
at the same time, a nurse's aid program.
1302
01:07:45,853 --> 01:07:48,230
And my mother was worried about me too.
1303
01:07:49,065 --> 01:07:51,567
But I met Chris's father, Selwyn,
1304
01:07:52,818 --> 01:07:56,197
and I went to see The Harder They Come
with him.
1305
01:07:56,280 --> 01:07:58,074
["The Harder They Come"
by Jimmy Cliff plays]
1306
01:07:58,157 --> 01:07:59,450
A lot of Jamaicans were there.
1307
01:07:59,533 --> 01:08:02,453
♪ The harder they fall, one and all ♪
1308
01:08:03,204 --> 01:08:05,331
We had a wonderful boat ride.
1309
01:08:05,873 --> 01:08:08,167
It was beautiful and fun memories.
1310
01:08:09,001 --> 01:08:10,419
The next thing I know,
1311
01:08:12,546 --> 01:08:14,048
I was pregnant.
1312
01:08:16,133 --> 01:08:19,678
I told my friend that I was pregnant.
1313
01:08:19,762 --> 01:08:22,932
She said,
"Did he tell you that he was married?"
1314
01:08:25,559 --> 01:08:27,019
And that kills me.
1315
01:08:33,651 --> 01:08:34,735
I had my baby.
1316
01:08:36,487 --> 01:08:38,989
And all of a sudden,
he just dwindled away.
1317
01:08:40,574 --> 01:08:45,621
Selwyn called and said he would like
to come over and see us.
1318
01:08:46,831 --> 01:08:50,042
I said, "Why don't you come
in the morning? I'm heading for work,
1319
01:08:50,126 --> 01:08:51,961
and I'm not going to entertain you."
1320
01:08:52,378 --> 01:08:54,672
He was sneaky.
He would like to come at night.
1321
01:08:54,755 --> 01:08:57,675
You're going to come at night
when my son is sleeping? Hell no.
1322
01:08:59,760 --> 01:09:02,388
I never saw him after that.
1323
01:09:05,057 --> 01:09:08,519
[Big] I don't even remember that cat.
I seen pictures.
1324
01:09:09,562 --> 01:09:11,188
I wouldn't even want to see this nigga.
1325
01:09:11,272 --> 01:09:14,984
It's like what could I have to say to him?
What could he have to say to me?
1326
01:09:15,693 --> 01:09:18,612
I don't need that cocksucker for nothing.
[laughs]
1327
01:09:18,696 --> 01:09:21,657
I don't need him for shit.
My moms is straight.
1328
01:09:26,537 --> 01:09:29,874
I looked at my baby, and I said,
"Oh my God!"
1329
01:09:30,541 --> 01:09:35,212
What is it? I brought you into this world,
and what is it I have to give to you?
1330
01:09:36,046 --> 01:09:40,634
"I have a strength, I have
the determination, and I have my God."
1331
01:09:42,178 --> 01:09:44,013
And I said, "I'm gonna make it."
1332
01:09:44,722 --> 01:09:46,932
I mean,
that's the only person I got really.
1333
01:09:47,016 --> 01:09:49,560
You know, I don't really know my father.
I don't know him.
1334
01:09:49,643 --> 01:09:52,062
My mother woke up in the morning,
went to school, went to work…
1335
01:09:52,146 --> 01:09:54,273
- [DJ] Strong person.
- …then back to school at night.
1336
01:09:54,356 --> 01:09:55,900
- [DJ] Right.
- Just for me.
1337
01:09:59,445 --> 01:10:02,031
[Voletta]
He says, "Ma, the baby's beautiful."
1338
01:10:03,949 --> 01:10:05,701
I saw this little baby,
1339
01:10:06,452 --> 01:10:08,787
and I looked at that baby, and I cried.
1340
01:10:10,664 --> 01:10:12,583
He looked at me and goes, "Ma.
1341
01:10:13,125 --> 01:10:15,377
Damn! She's not that ugly!"
1342
01:10:15,961 --> 01:10:18,297
"Ma, she's pretty! Why are you crying?"
1343
01:10:19,423 --> 01:10:22,176
"What do you have
to offer this little girl?"
1344
01:10:25,930 --> 01:10:28,307
[P. Diddy]
Biggie's halfway through his album.
1345
01:10:28,390 --> 01:10:33,062
One day, Andre Harrell came into my office
and, you know, he told me like,
1346
01:10:33,145 --> 01:10:38,859
you know, "We're having
like a two kings in the castle problem."
1347
01:10:40,819 --> 01:10:42,780
[Mark Pitts] When Puff got fired,
1348
01:10:42,863 --> 01:10:45,157
I remember everybody feelin' like,
"What we gonna do?"
1349
01:10:46,033 --> 01:10:48,369
We were all trying to figure things out.
1350
01:10:48,452 --> 01:10:51,705
My concern was really,
"What is Biggie gonna do?"
1351
01:10:53,082 --> 01:10:57,336
Any reason that came about,
it was like, "See!"
1352
01:10:57,419 --> 01:10:59,630
It was that whole feeling of…
1353
01:10:59,713 --> 01:11:02,675
Because he was… He was still skeptical
of this whole thing.
1354
01:11:02,758 --> 01:11:04,176
Is this shit real or not?
1355
01:11:05,219 --> 01:11:07,513
It wasn't all clear to him,
the music stuff.
1356
01:11:08,138 --> 01:11:14,395
So a lot of the bad decisions came
from wanting to provide and not be broke
1357
01:11:14,478 --> 01:11:16,480
and do things for his family.
1358
01:11:18,023 --> 01:11:19,900
Even though, you know,
1359
01:11:20,442 --> 01:11:22,528
it wasn't a huge explosion yet,
1360
01:11:23,028 --> 01:11:25,489
but I seen just enough
1361
01:11:25,572 --> 01:11:29,910
for me to know that he got a shot,
and he's about to fuck it up.
1362
01:11:38,502 --> 01:11:41,005
[C Gutta] This is when Big go outta town.
1363
01:11:43,757 --> 01:11:46,302
He goes to North Carolina,
started hustling.
1364
01:11:47,136 --> 01:11:50,264
[Big] Fuckin' with this money.
That's how we get down there?
1365
01:11:51,807 --> 01:11:54,226
Crack was going for 20s in North Carolina.
1366
01:11:55,019 --> 01:11:57,646
What we were selling for $5
on the corner in New York
1367
01:11:57,730 --> 01:12:00,107
was going for $20 in North Carolina.
1368
01:12:03,402 --> 01:12:05,029
Jan had family down there.
1369
01:12:06,989 --> 01:12:08,615
It was like a no-brainer.
1370
01:12:08,699 --> 01:12:10,617
[Mark]
I felt I was about to lose him,
1371
01:12:10,701 --> 01:12:14,121
and I remember just, "I gotta tell Puff.
1372
01:12:14,204 --> 01:12:16,790
He's gonna be mad at me,
but I gotta save this kid's life."
1373
01:12:18,500 --> 01:12:20,502
[P. Diddy] So I picked up the phone,
and I told him
1374
01:12:20,586 --> 01:12:24,506
I understood that desire of wanting
to be able to take care of your family
1375
01:12:24,590 --> 01:12:27,718
and wanting to be able to provide
and to get rich,
1376
01:12:27,801 --> 01:12:31,764
but I had a personal tragedy being
that my father was in the streets,
1377
01:12:31,847 --> 01:12:36,727
and, you know,
he also dealt drugs and hustled,
1378
01:12:36,810 --> 01:12:38,979
and, you know,
he got killed when I was two.
1379
01:12:40,731 --> 01:12:43,609
And I said, "There's only one path for you
as far as selling drugs,
1380
01:12:43,692 --> 01:12:45,319
and that's in jail or dead."
1381
01:12:45,402 --> 01:12:49,948
And I said, "I'm gonna keep on going
and keep on, you know,
1382
01:12:50,032 --> 01:12:53,202
trying to make this happen.
I know I'm going to make it happen."
1383
01:12:53,577 --> 01:12:57,164
And I was just like,
"If you want to do this,"
1384
01:12:57,247 --> 01:12:59,792
I need you to commit to this.
1385
01:13:00,334 --> 01:13:02,169
"You know, you can't do both."
1386
01:13:03,337 --> 01:13:05,923
And he was like,
"Nah, I'm coming with you."
1387
01:13:08,884 --> 01:13:12,137
He was like, "Whatever you want to do,
dude, I'm with you."
1388
01:13:13,347 --> 01:13:17,684
When he started
to really devote his life to music
1389
01:13:17,768 --> 01:13:20,813
and having that focus,
everything changed for him.
1390
01:13:20,896 --> 01:13:23,607
Everything the energy attracted,
everything changed for him.
1391
01:13:23,690 --> 01:13:24,525
♪ Yeah ♪
1392
01:13:24,608 --> 01:13:26,944
♪ To all my peoples in the struggle
Y'kow what I'm sayin' ♪
1393
01:13:27,027 --> 01:13:28,570
♪ It's all good, baby, baby ♪
1394
01:13:28,654 --> 01:13:29,488
♪ Check it ♪
1395
01:13:29,571 --> 01:13:30,823
♪ It was all a dream ♪
1396
01:13:30,906 --> 01:13:32,991
♪ I used to read Word Up! Magazine ♪
1397
01:13:33,075 --> 01:13:35,494
♪ Salt-n-Pepa and Heavy D
Up in the limousine ♪
1398
01:13:35,577 --> 01:13:37,621
♪ Hangin' pictures on my wall ♪
1399
01:13:37,704 --> 01:13:40,541
♪ Every Saturday, Rap Attack
Mr. Magic, Marley Marl ♪
1400
01:13:40,624 --> 01:13:42,376
♪ I let my tape rock 'til my tape popped ♪
1401
01:13:42,459 --> 01:13:43,877
♪ Smokin' weed in Bambu ♪
1402
01:13:43,961 --> 01:13:45,379
♪ Sippin' on Private Stock ♪
1403
01:13:45,462 --> 01:13:46,296
♪ Way back ♪
1404
01:13:46,380 --> 01:13:48,298
♪ When I had
The red and black lumberjack ♪
1405
01:13:48,382 --> 01:13:49,716
♪ With the hat to match ♪
1406
01:13:49,800 --> 01:13:52,219
♪ Remember Rappin' Duke?
Duh-ha, duh-ha! ♪
1407
01:13:52,302 --> 01:13:55,139
♪ You never thought that hip-hop
Would take it this far ♪
1408
01:13:55,222 --> 01:13:59,017
[P. Diddy] Coming into the studio
with this record that had a sample,
1409
01:13:59,101 --> 01:14:02,521
that really kind of reminded him
of something that kind of felt good.
1410
01:14:02,604 --> 01:14:07,568
♪ But you're the only love
That gives me good and plenty ♪
1411
01:14:07,651 --> 01:14:10,529
[P. Diddy] It was totally against,
you know, the darkness.
1412
01:14:12,573 --> 01:14:14,450
I was on his video "Juicy."
1413
01:14:14,533 --> 01:14:16,910
I said,
"Why don't you get an actress to do it?"
1414
01:14:16,994 --> 01:14:19,455
He said, "Ma, I'll get an actress
if you are dead,
1415
01:14:19,538 --> 01:14:22,458
so I want you to do it."
1416
01:14:22,541 --> 01:14:24,793
♪ And she loves to show me off,
of course ♪
1417
01:14:24,877 --> 01:14:27,504
♪ Smiles every time my face is up
In The Source ♪
1418
01:14:27,588 --> 01:14:29,923
♪ We used to fuss
When the landlord dissed us ♪
1419
01:14:30,007 --> 01:14:32,217
♪ No heat,
wonder why Christmas missed us ♪
1420
01:14:32,301 --> 01:14:34,511
♪ Birthdays was the worst days ♪
1421
01:14:34,595 --> 01:14:37,014
♪ Now we sip champagne when we thirsty ♪
1422
01:14:38,015 --> 01:14:41,602
I was happy that he was making something
1423
01:14:42,186 --> 01:14:43,437
with his life.
1424
01:14:44,021 --> 01:14:46,315
You know, I wasn't worried
about him anymore.
1425
01:14:46,732 --> 01:14:48,484
[P. Diddy] People were waiting
for this album.
1426
01:14:48,567 --> 01:14:52,029
This was like a big deal for New York.
1427
01:14:52,112 --> 01:14:55,157
Then we hit 'em with Ready to Die,
and it was over.
1428
01:14:55,240 --> 01:14:56,783
I mean, the game was over.
1429
01:14:56,867 --> 01:15:00,370
If you stood on 145th and 8th Avenue,
if you stood on Flatbush Avenue,
1430
01:15:00,454 --> 01:15:02,289
you stood in front of Juniors…
1431
01:15:02,414 --> 01:15:06,251
I'm talking about every car
1432
01:15:06,335 --> 01:15:08,462
was playing Ready to Die.
1433
01:15:09,254 --> 01:15:10,506
[Chico] Lazy walking on this.
1434
01:15:10,589 --> 01:15:11,840
[Big] What the fuck, man?
1435
01:15:12,341 --> 01:15:15,260
[P. Diddy] I remember we got asked
to go do a concert out in London.
1436
01:15:15,344 --> 01:15:16,512
[Big] It's like space shit.
1437
01:15:16,595 --> 01:15:19,389
We're out there. We're performing.
1438
01:15:19,473 --> 01:15:21,600
♪ I'm blowin' up
Like you thought I would ♪
1439
01:15:21,683 --> 01:15:24,520
♪ Call the crib, same number
Same hood, it's all good ♪
1440
01:15:24,603 --> 01:15:26,438
♪ Yeah, now do your sold out shit ♪
1441
01:15:26,522 --> 01:15:29,650
♪ And if you don't know, now you know!
Ladies! ♪
1442
01:15:30,734 --> 01:15:35,030
And we can't even hear ourselves perform
because they're singing and chanting.
1443
01:15:35,864 --> 01:15:38,742
Just so…
They were giving us so much energy.
1444
01:15:38,825 --> 01:15:41,787
And we were like, "Wow!
You know, they know us
1445
01:15:41,870 --> 01:15:42,996
all the way over here.
1446
01:15:43,080 --> 01:15:43,956
They love us!"
1447
01:15:44,998 --> 01:15:49,253
Every record,
they feel what we're trying to express.
1448
01:15:50,170 --> 01:15:52,005
[audience screaming]
1449
01:15:52,965 --> 01:15:55,592
Oi, Biggie! Biggie!
1450
01:15:55,676 --> 01:15:57,803
Biggie, I want to fuck you!
1451
01:15:58,845 --> 01:15:59,763
[Big laughs]
1452
01:15:59,846 --> 01:16:01,348
How is it, being Biggie?
1453
01:16:01,932 --> 01:16:04,017
It's "Big, Notorious Big."
1454
01:16:04,101 --> 01:16:07,020
It's the first time,
'cause I got some papers in the mail.
1455
01:16:07,104 --> 01:16:09,439
The original Biggy Smallz
said he gonna sue me
1456
01:16:09,523 --> 01:16:11,858
for everything I got
if I use his name again.
1457
01:16:11,942 --> 01:16:13,527
So please, nobody…
1458
01:16:13,610 --> 01:16:16,196
My name is The Notorious B.I.G.
1459
01:16:16,280 --> 01:16:19,116
You can call me "Big,"
"Notorious Big," whatever…
1460
01:16:19,199 --> 01:16:21,660
No more "Biggie Smalls,"
that is dead, wacked.
1461
01:16:21,743 --> 01:16:25,414
He grew up quick, and he was like,
"I wanna take care of my daughter."
1462
01:16:25,497 --> 01:16:28,041
- She's cute! Get a close-up.
- You know what I'm saying?
1463
01:16:28,625 --> 01:16:30,752
[P. Diddy]
"I want to make sure my mother's alright."
1464
01:16:30,836 --> 01:16:32,629
I want to become an entrepreneur.
1465
01:16:33,213 --> 01:16:34,756
"I want to have a life."
1466
01:16:35,882 --> 01:16:37,134
He wanted to live.
1467
01:16:37,217 --> 01:16:41,763
As ironic as the album title was,
it was really a cry out
1468
01:16:42,764 --> 01:16:44,391
for life.
1469
01:16:44,516 --> 01:16:47,102
[reporter]
My favorite cut on album is the one
1470
01:16:47,185 --> 01:16:49,896
with the red dot on the head.
1471
01:16:49,980 --> 01:16:51,565
That's what we shootin' today,
"Warning."
1472
01:16:55,402 --> 01:16:57,571
When he did that song "Warning"…
1473
01:16:57,654 --> 01:16:59,656
♪ There's gonna be a lot of slow singing ♪
1474
01:16:59,740 --> 01:17:00,907
♪ And flower bringing ♪
1475
01:17:00,991 --> 01:17:02,909
♪ If my burglar alarm starts ringing ♪
1476
01:17:03,744 --> 01:17:06,747
I thought it was a movie.
I'm like, "Whoa."
1477
01:17:07,331 --> 01:17:10,167
You shoot 'em up in the house
like you Scarface.
1478
01:17:11,710 --> 01:17:13,837
We was actually in the video. He…
1479
01:17:13,920 --> 01:17:16,715
[mimics gunshots]
1480
01:17:17,382 --> 01:17:18,216
Right.
1481
01:17:18,717 --> 01:17:20,218
- [Chico] Haha!
- [D Roc] Uh huh.
1482
01:17:20,385 --> 01:17:22,179
- [D Roc] Who's up?
- [Big] You got that shit?
1483
01:17:22,262 --> 01:17:26,224
- …that mean?
- [laughing]
1484
01:17:26,767 --> 01:17:28,518
[D Roc] Woo!
1485
01:17:31,396 --> 01:17:33,023
[Lil'Cease] D Roc! What up, man?
1486
01:17:33,357 --> 01:17:35,192
Hey!
1487
01:17:35,275 --> 01:17:37,944
Shit ain't working right. There it go.
1488
01:17:38,487 --> 01:17:39,946
Another day in the joint,
1489
01:17:40,030 --> 01:17:42,199
battery level look a type shiesty,
but fuck it.
1490
01:17:43,742 --> 01:17:46,536
[Lil' Cease] I never traveled
out of New York until I became a rapper.
1491
01:17:47,079 --> 01:17:48,705
That was the most exciting part.
1492
01:17:49,289 --> 01:17:50,165
[D Roc] Boo!
1493
01:17:55,337 --> 01:17:57,673
[Lil' Cease] A lot of people don't leave
the neighborhood.
1494
01:17:57,756 --> 01:17:59,341
- [D Roc] Uh-oh.
- [Chico] Up the ramp!
1495
01:17:59,424 --> 01:18:00,884
[D Roc] Woo! Up the ramp!
1496
01:18:02,678 --> 01:18:04,262
I love you, Biggie!
1497
01:18:09,226 --> 01:18:12,187
To leave it for a while,
you get to see something different.
1498
01:18:12,270 --> 01:18:15,524
I was excited to come back
and tell somebody I was down south.
1499
01:18:15,607 --> 01:18:17,943
They cribs look different.
The highways is different.
1500
01:18:18,026 --> 01:18:20,112
They don't hang out on corners
like we do.
1501
01:18:20,195 --> 01:18:21,613
…standing up here like this.
1502
01:18:22,239 --> 01:18:26,910
And I'm just peeping how
the motherfucking sun is just going down.
1503
01:18:26,993 --> 01:18:30,122
Shit just look right.
The mountains in the background. Peep it?
1504
01:18:30,914 --> 01:18:32,457
See the mountains, kid?
1505
01:18:32,833 --> 01:18:34,084
That shit is ill.
1506
01:18:35,168 --> 01:18:37,295
Motherfuckin' mountains, kid.
1507
01:18:39,798 --> 01:18:42,134
[P. Diddy] Biggie stepped into
that role as the leader.
1508
01:18:43,176 --> 01:18:46,972
He learned about how to be, you know,
that father figure.
1509
01:18:47,556 --> 01:18:49,975
Can everybody here make some noise
for B.I.G.
1510
01:18:50,058 --> 01:18:51,727
for bringing it back to the East?
1511
01:18:52,686 --> 01:18:54,187
Bringing it back to the East!
1512
01:18:55,147 --> 01:18:56,690
People had crews.
1513
01:18:57,232 --> 01:18:59,192
But this crew, they was really family.
1514
01:18:59,276 --> 01:19:01,278
They had like… It was a lot of them.
1515
01:19:01,361 --> 01:19:03,280
And he took care of all of them.
1516
01:19:03,780 --> 01:19:05,490
And they took care of each other.
1517
01:19:07,784 --> 01:19:10,829
I'm seein' him,
I'm like damn proud because…
1518
01:19:13,582 --> 01:19:16,585
I see where he came from.
1519
01:19:16,668 --> 01:19:19,421
You know what I'm saying? I see…
I'm like, "Damn!"
1520
01:19:19,504 --> 01:19:21,465
Like, yo, that boy, he really a star.
1521
01:19:27,345 --> 01:19:29,306
[Donald]
I was really happily surprised
1522
01:19:29,389 --> 01:19:31,475
when they started calling him "The King."
1523
01:19:32,601 --> 01:19:36,271
Of course, your chest is poked out,
and you're happy.
1524
01:19:36,354 --> 01:19:39,357
"Look at my guy."
1525
01:19:41,276 --> 01:19:43,904
[P. Diddy] They were calling him
"King of New York."
1526
01:19:45,697 --> 01:19:47,866
Now it's time for us
to make the next album.
1527
01:19:48,325 --> 01:19:49,951
He started feeling that pressure.
1528
01:19:50,035 --> 01:19:53,038
- [D Roc] The Del Vec, pusher mack…
- [Chico] We going back to the studio?
1529
01:19:53,121 --> 01:19:56,500
- [Big] What's up, son? What the f...
- [Lil' Cease] Yeah, yeah, y'all.
1530
01:19:58,168 --> 01:19:59,795
I ain't trying to do no extra shit.
1531
01:19:59,878 --> 01:20:02,756
It ain't like I'm like, "Alright.
Damn, I got a new album coming out.
1532
01:20:02,839 --> 01:20:06,843
Let me go shoot three niggas so I can make
a song about how I shot three niggas."
1533
01:20:07,093 --> 01:20:09,930
I just rap about what I was going through.
Now, I can rap
1534
01:20:10,013 --> 01:20:11,640
about this shiesty-ass business.
1535
01:20:12,098 --> 01:20:15,185
- Bad Boy forever, nigga! Mafia for life!
- A'ight! Nigga, what?
1536
01:20:15,268 --> 01:20:16,436
[Big] This is what Puffy does.
1537
01:20:16,520 --> 01:20:19,773
Puffy will come up with an idea of a beat.
1538
01:20:19,856 --> 01:20:21,525
We may be in the club one night.
1539
01:20:21,608 --> 01:20:23,902
He'll see a Diana Ross record,
"I'm Coming Out."
1540
01:20:23,985 --> 01:20:25,612
♪ I'm comin' out ♪
1541
01:20:25,862 --> 01:20:28,698
He'll see how everybody
just jumps up on the dance floor.
1542
01:20:28,782 --> 01:20:31,076
He'll be like,
"Yo, I want to hook that up."
1543
01:20:32,869 --> 01:20:34,996
♪ B-I-G P-O-P-P-A ♪
1544
01:20:35,080 --> 01:20:37,207
♪ No info for the DEA ♪
1545
01:20:37,290 --> 01:20:39,584
♪ Federal agents mad 'cause I'm flagrant ♪
1546
01:20:39,668 --> 01:20:42,045
♪ Tap my cell and my phone
In the basement ♪
1547
01:20:47,008 --> 01:20:51,054
We met at a photo shoot
that Puff had arranged
1548
01:20:51,137 --> 01:20:53,098
for the artists on his new label.
1549
01:20:53,682 --> 01:20:55,851
[P. Diddy] He just started
thinking bigger.
1550
01:20:55,934 --> 01:20:58,895
How you doing? Nice to meet you.
What should I call you?
1551
01:20:58,979 --> 01:21:01,273
I love it when they call me Big Poppa!
1552
01:21:04,734 --> 01:21:07,487
[D Roc] He wanted to get into acting.
He wanted to get into clothes,
1553
01:21:07,571 --> 01:21:10,866
and he actually wanted
to run his own label and sign artists.
1554
01:21:11,449 --> 01:21:14,536
[Big] I wanna get my hands in everything
that's gonna help me get paid.
1555
01:21:14,619 --> 01:21:15,704
- [DJ] Right.
- Whatever it is.
1556
01:21:15,787 --> 01:21:18,623
- Whether it's movies, TV. You understand?
- [DJ] Oh, yeah.
1557
01:21:18,707 --> 01:21:21,918
Having to sell drugs on the corner
to this?
1558
01:21:23,128 --> 01:21:25,547
- [DJ] You like it all?
- Yeah, like it all.
1559
01:21:27,215 --> 01:21:29,384
[C Gutta] There's pressure coming
from so many places.
1560
01:21:30,051 --> 01:21:34,556
The environment we was in
with the Tupac stuff and this and that,
1561
01:21:34,639 --> 01:21:36,725
it's a whole new set of pressures
1562
01:21:37,434 --> 01:21:42,939
that he thought would be eliminated
from making the first album.
1563
01:21:43,023 --> 01:21:45,483
[DJ] People are gonna ask about Tupac.
1564
01:21:45,567 --> 01:21:47,527
Is that something
you don't like to talk about?
1565
01:21:47,611 --> 01:21:50,238
- [DJ] Weren't you guys originally cool?
- Yeah.
1566
01:21:50,947 --> 01:21:53,366
[P. Diddy] The relationship
and the experiences
1567
01:21:53,450 --> 01:21:54,826
with Tupac, were friends.
1568
01:21:54,910 --> 01:21:56,870
They were very close.
1569
01:21:57,871 --> 01:21:59,122
- [Big] Ready, nigga?
- [man] Yeah.
1570
01:21:59,205 --> 01:22:02,500
- Ready for that raw dog shit, nigga?
- [man] Show me you know how to rap, bitch.
1571
01:22:02,584 --> 01:22:03,627
Okay. Alright.
1572
01:22:04,711 --> 01:22:07,881
Let me see how I'mma hit you with it.
You want to set it off?
1573
01:22:07,964 --> 01:22:09,215
♪ You know how niggas be ♪
1574
01:22:09,299 --> 01:22:10,800
♪ They wanna see if Pac is real ♪
1575
01:22:10,884 --> 01:22:12,761
♪ Or is he like that nigga in the movie ♪
1576
01:22:12,844 --> 01:22:14,638
♪ I guess I gotta prove my point ♪
1577
01:22:14,721 --> 01:22:16,890
♪ Slicin' motherfuckers
Now I'm doin' the joint ♪
1578
01:22:16,973 --> 01:22:19,684
♪ I got my nigga B-I to the G beside me ♪
1579
01:22:20,226 --> 01:22:24,022
That was before the beef.
That was before the problems.
1580
01:22:24,105 --> 01:22:26,608
[DJ] Where did it go wrong
with you and Tupac?
1581
01:22:26,691 --> 01:22:28,318
I guess after he got shot.
1582
01:22:28,860 --> 01:22:31,780
[news anchor] Police say
controversial rap star Tupac Shakur
1583
01:22:31,863 --> 01:22:35,033
was entering the street level lobby
of an eighth-floor recording studio
1584
01:22:35,116 --> 01:22:37,202
near New York's Times Square
after midnight
1585
01:22:37,285 --> 01:22:40,205
when three robbers confronted him
and his friends.
1586
01:22:41,206 --> 01:22:44,167
[DJ] He said in one of his songs
he knows you sent somebody
1587
01:22:44,250 --> 01:22:45,293
to shoot him.
1588
01:22:45,377 --> 01:22:46,628
- Why?
- True or false?
1589
01:22:46,711 --> 01:22:48,838
- No, it's false. Why would I do that?
- Okay.
1590
01:22:50,006 --> 01:22:52,801
[Tupac] If you act like you a gangster
or a G or the King of New York,
1591
01:22:52,884 --> 01:22:54,052
I'mma expect that.
1592
01:22:54,135 --> 01:22:57,138
And when you don't come through,
then I'm gonna crush your Empire,
1593
01:22:57,222 --> 01:22:58,807
and that's what it's time for.
1594
01:22:59,516 --> 01:23:01,851
I mean, people…
1595
01:23:01,935 --> 01:23:03,353
Oh my God, I don't know how…
1596
01:23:03,436 --> 01:23:05,647
People just want to see things, you know?
1597
01:23:05,772 --> 01:23:09,651
You just got people just like that that
just want to just edge things on and…
1598
01:23:09,734 --> 01:23:11,319
Remember that game "telephone"?
1599
01:23:11,403 --> 01:23:13,196
Where you would say something
in somebody's ear
1600
01:23:13,279 --> 01:23:16,992
and you keep saying it. When it gets
back to you, it's a different story.
1601
01:23:17,075 --> 01:23:19,369
That's basically how it is,
but it started from here
1602
01:23:19,452 --> 01:23:22,664
and got all the way changed by the time
it got to the East Coast.
1603
01:23:22,747 --> 01:23:24,124
I had nothing to do with that.
1604
01:23:24,207 --> 01:23:27,085
It happened to be a coincidence
that he was in the studio.
1605
01:23:27,544 --> 01:23:29,295
Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
1606
01:23:29,379 --> 01:23:31,339
He just… He couldn't really say
1607
01:23:31,423 --> 01:23:33,633
who had something
to do with it at the time,
1608
01:23:33,883 --> 01:23:35,927
so he was kind of like
laying the blame on me.
1609
01:23:36,011 --> 01:23:40,807
It really broke his heart, you know,
when everything kind of went left.
1610
01:23:41,391 --> 01:23:43,727
All these weak rappers, Nas,
all these suckers,
1611
01:23:43,810 --> 01:23:46,438
they battling off east
and west like this is a game.
1612
01:23:46,521 --> 01:23:47,564
This ain't no game.
1613
01:23:47,647 --> 01:23:51,151
If this was chess, we'd be yelling
"checkmate" three m♪♪♪♪♪♪♪♪♪♪♪♪ years ago
1614
01:23:51,234 --> 01:23:53,945
'cause we been beat these m♪♪♪♪♪♪♪♪♪♪♪♪.
It's not a game.
1615
01:23:54,029 --> 01:23:56,740
We thought it was
like some sort of theatrics
1616
01:23:56,823 --> 01:23:58,867
that we didn't get the memo on.
1617
01:23:59,576 --> 01:24:02,454
You know, and that,
1618
01:24:02,537 --> 01:24:07,083
you know, it was just going to blow over
like any, you know, hip-hop rivalry does.
1619
01:24:07,709 --> 01:24:09,461
[news anchor]
Shakur was on his way to a party
1620
01:24:09,544 --> 01:24:12,422
following the Mike Tyson,
Bruce Seldon prize fights.
1621
01:24:12,505 --> 01:24:13,631
[gunshots]
1622
01:24:19,429 --> 01:24:22,348
[news anchor 2] Tupac Shakur died tonight
in a Las Vegas hospital.
1623
01:24:23,349 --> 01:24:27,020
[news anchor 1] The 25-year-old rapper was
in the backseat of a black BMW,
1624
01:24:27,103 --> 01:24:31,566
part of an informal convoy of ten cars,
when Las Vegas Police say shots were fired
1625
01:24:31,649 --> 01:24:33,443
from a passing white Cadillac.
1626
01:24:33,902 --> 01:24:38,281
I specifically remember him calling me,
crying, when Tupac was killed.
1627
01:24:40,158 --> 01:24:43,787
When he talked about Olie
and Tupac were certainly times
1628
01:24:43,870 --> 01:24:47,499
that I saw him really become emotional.
1629
01:24:49,918 --> 01:24:53,880
Tupac's passing had a huge effect,
you know,
1630
01:24:53,963 --> 01:24:56,925
just on the urgency,
1631
01:24:57,008 --> 01:24:59,385
him feeling like he wanted
to get some music out
1632
01:24:59,469 --> 01:25:01,554
to kind of turn the energy around.
1633
01:25:02,430 --> 01:25:05,725
Life After Death was really
about taking care of his family,
1634
01:25:05,809 --> 01:25:07,435
his mother,
1635
01:25:07,519 --> 01:25:10,605
and really just turning
the energy around in hip-hop.
1636
01:25:11,106 --> 01:25:15,443
And then the record was done,
and the first place he wanted to go,
1637
01:25:15,527 --> 01:25:17,529
he was like, "I want to go back to Cali.
1638
01:25:17,612 --> 01:25:19,823
I want to go
and kind of set things right."
1639
01:25:19,906 --> 01:25:22,325
The body of work of music was…
1640
01:25:23,034 --> 01:25:27,914
You know, that was his strategy
to really connect with fans
1641
01:25:27,997 --> 01:25:31,376
and to put all the negativity
and the bullshit behind us.
1642
01:25:32,127 --> 01:25:34,671
He told me
that he has to go to California.
1643
01:25:37,924 --> 01:25:39,884
I remember the last thing
I said to him,
1644
01:25:39,968 --> 01:25:41,386
"Just be careful out there."
1645
01:25:45,390 --> 01:25:47,559
[Chico] We need a cart.
That's what we need.
1646
01:25:55,900 --> 01:25:56,860
[Chico] Boo-ya.
1647
01:25:58,361 --> 01:26:00,530
I'm up in the joint.
Sure cloudy up in here.
1648
01:26:01,030 --> 01:26:03,074
Ten niggas smoked like 30 blunts.
1649
01:26:03,158 --> 01:26:05,076
[Hubert] I knew he was in L.A.,
1650
01:26:05,160 --> 01:26:08,830
and with my knowledge,
I knew that that was war time.
1651
01:26:08,913 --> 01:26:12,709
I was really worried
that he wasn't preparing himself
1652
01:26:13,543 --> 01:26:15,003
for being out there.
1653
01:26:15,086 --> 01:26:16,963
You should've seen this blunt we smoked.
1654
01:26:17,046 --> 01:26:18,715
Man, shit took an hour to smoke.
1655
01:26:19,299 --> 01:26:22,468
I took a whole I,
took all the tobacco out the I,
1656
01:26:22,552 --> 01:26:24,804
and stuffed two 50s and a 20.
1657
01:26:24,888 --> 01:26:27,056
That shit was like this fucking big, yo.
1658
01:26:27,140 --> 01:26:28,224
You woulda hit that.
1659
01:26:28,308 --> 01:26:30,101
- [Chico] Yeah, man.
- You woulda hit that.
1660
01:26:30,185 --> 01:26:31,311
[Chico] Yeah, man.
1661
01:26:32,520 --> 01:26:34,522
[Big] I want to throw
the little niggas a party.
1662
01:26:34,606 --> 01:26:35,815
[Chico] All the chronic.
1663
01:26:37,901 --> 01:26:39,027
Here we are. Alright?
1664
01:26:42,572 --> 01:26:44,407
[Big] We ballin' out here in Cali,
you know.
1665
01:26:44,490 --> 01:26:46,117
East Coast Don in the house.
1666
01:26:46,826 --> 01:26:50,413
I just wanna let everybody know
that I'm here. You know what I'm saying?
1667
01:26:50,496 --> 01:26:53,541
I ain't going nowhere.
Bad Boy ain't going nowhere.
1668
01:26:53,625 --> 01:26:55,752
All the rumors. You know what I'm saying?
1669
01:26:55,835 --> 01:26:58,004
You shouldn't sit back
and listen to rumors.
1670
01:26:58,087 --> 01:27:00,757
You know what I'm sayin'?
Just take the chance to know the person,
1671
01:27:00,840 --> 01:27:04,052
before you judge the person.
That goes with anybody, not just me.
1672
01:27:04,385 --> 01:27:06,304
If you hear something about somebody
or whatever,
1673
01:27:06,387 --> 01:27:08,389
don't be so quick to be like,
"I don't like him."
1674
01:27:08,473 --> 01:27:10,433
Try to find out what's going on.
1675
01:27:10,516 --> 01:27:12,435
Try to get the facts first.
1676
01:27:12,518 --> 01:27:14,395
I'm gonna
continue to keep making those songs
1677
01:27:14,479 --> 01:27:17,065
that make you dance and make you groove
1678
01:27:17,148 --> 01:27:20,652
and have kids and all kinds of things,
you know.
1679
01:27:20,735 --> 01:27:23,029
I'm here. Me and my man, Ceaselia,
1680
01:27:23,529 --> 01:27:26,282
we're just gonna do our thing forever.
Forever and ever.
1681
01:27:28,868 --> 01:27:32,330
[Gwendolyn] One Sunday morning,
I turned on the television.
1682
01:27:33,623 --> 01:27:36,167
[news anchor 3] Early today, as he left
a party in Los Angeles…
1683
01:27:36,751 --> 01:27:38,419
Saw it on the television,
1684
01:27:38,503 --> 01:27:40,713
"The Notorious B.I.G.
1685
01:27:40,797 --> 01:27:44,717
was gunned down
at Los Angeles last night."
1686
01:27:45,301 --> 01:27:48,680
[police officer] Unknown suspects
apparently fired multiple rounds
1687
01:27:48,763 --> 01:27:53,476
at one victim by the name
of Christopher Wallace, age 24.
1688
01:27:53,559 --> 01:27:56,312
[news anchor 4]
Shakur is also in the mural. Police say…
1689
01:27:56,396 --> 01:28:00,149
[Gwendolyn] Some hospital tried to perform
an emergency operation.
1690
01:28:00,233 --> 01:28:01,609
He was pronounced dead.
1691
01:28:03,152 --> 01:28:05,071
I couldn't believe my eyes.
1692
01:28:14,622 --> 01:28:17,667
I can't understand why…
1693
01:28:20,253 --> 01:28:22,755
They had to take away his life like that.
1694
01:28:30,722 --> 01:28:32,724
[P. Diddy] In that last night,
we were talking about
1695
01:28:32,807 --> 01:28:34,892
all the positive things we were gonna do.
1696
01:28:35,810 --> 01:28:38,604
He was ready to be
who he was destined to become.
1697
01:28:39,355 --> 01:28:42,483
[D Roc] One red light
could change your life.
1698
01:28:43,109 --> 01:28:43,985
Forever.
1699
01:28:55,455 --> 01:28:56,789
I was in the car with him.
1700
01:28:57,957 --> 01:28:59,959
If it wasn't meant for me to be there,
I wouldn't.
1701
01:29:00,043 --> 01:29:02,253
Clearly, I'm here for a reason.
You know what I mean?
1702
01:29:02,837 --> 01:29:04,589
Probably still ain't
even figured it out yet.
1703
01:29:23,816 --> 01:29:26,694
[somber music playing]
1704
01:29:44,003 --> 01:29:45,546
[Voletta] Coming from that funeral…
1705
01:29:48,216 --> 01:29:50,051
I felt I was in a dream.
1706
01:29:53,221 --> 01:29:54,472
I wasn't crying.
1707
01:29:55,765 --> 01:29:57,016
That day,
1708
01:29:58,184 --> 01:29:59,769
it was just too heavy.
1709
01:30:02,021 --> 01:30:03,314
I never shed a tear.
1710
01:30:03,981 --> 01:30:05,316
I didn't have any.
1711
01:30:08,236 --> 01:30:10,446
With all those people along the way.
1712
01:30:12,573 --> 01:30:15,827
Sheets out the window, "Goodbye, Biggie."
1713
01:30:20,289 --> 01:30:22,250
When I hit Saint James Place
1714
01:30:23,835 --> 01:30:25,711
and I saw the crowd…
1715
01:30:29,257 --> 01:30:33,511
Oh my God, this kid was well-loved.
1716
01:30:34,178 --> 01:30:35,805
That's when I saw the love.
1717
01:30:37,223 --> 01:30:38,975
But it didn't really hit me
1718
01:30:39,517 --> 01:30:41,269
until when I listened.
1719
01:30:42,228 --> 01:30:44,480
And I only listened to it once.
1720
01:30:45,064 --> 01:30:47,483
Only listened to those albums once.
1721
01:30:47,567 --> 01:30:49,402
I didn't want to listen to it twice.
1722
01:30:49,485 --> 01:30:51,571
I listened to it once.
1723
01:30:53,531 --> 01:30:56,784
The tears came.
1724
01:30:59,078 --> 01:31:01,372
There was a time
where I had to get Ms. Wallace on point.
1725
01:31:01,456 --> 01:31:03,833
She was going through it.
She just lost her son.
1726
01:31:03,916 --> 01:31:07,128
I just lost a friend.
The kids just lost a father.
1727
01:31:09,088 --> 01:31:10,006
Mommy!
1728
01:31:15,511 --> 01:31:17,763
[Big] When I look
at my daughter and my son,
1729
01:31:19,056 --> 01:31:21,142
it's like it's something to live for.
1730
01:31:21,851 --> 01:31:23,853
And it's like I'm doing it for them.
1731
01:31:24,312 --> 01:31:26,481
Everything I do,
I'm just doing it for them.
1732
01:31:26,564 --> 01:31:28,441
All the way to the back.
1733
01:31:28,524 --> 01:31:30,443
Motherfuckers blowing shit up!
1734
01:31:30,526 --> 01:31:33,696
[Lil' Cease] By the blessing of God,
Big had a gifted talent
1735
01:31:34,363 --> 01:31:37,074
that saved a lot of people's lives
but his.
1736
01:31:37,158 --> 01:31:38,326
You know?
1737
01:31:41,370 --> 01:31:42,705
It's just hitting me.
1738
01:31:44,290 --> 01:31:48,085
Every once in a while it hits me that
I won't see my little buddy no more.
1739
01:31:49,795 --> 01:31:53,132
It's great to see Biggie's murals
all around the neighborhood
1740
01:31:53,966 --> 01:31:57,094
and to see how far he has transcended
1741
01:31:57,637 --> 01:31:58,721
into the psyche.
1742
01:32:00,473 --> 01:32:02,266
He's an icon of the world now.
1743
01:32:07,104 --> 01:32:09,273
[P. Diddy] I knew after Big's passing
1744
01:32:09,357 --> 01:32:12,235
that we was in some sort of frequency
1745
01:32:12,318 --> 01:32:17,365
that was having an effect on millions
of people across the world.
1746
01:32:18,741 --> 01:32:20,535
He gave me more of a purpose.
1747
01:32:20,618 --> 01:32:23,829
Taught me the importance of life,
how short life was.
1748
01:32:25,915 --> 01:32:29,210
Also, the value of that level of belief.
1749
01:32:31,754 --> 01:32:34,840
He had a life
that had such a profound effect.
1750
01:32:36,592 --> 01:32:39,095
It really gave birth to the future
of hip-hop.
1751
01:32:41,681 --> 01:32:43,307
It wasn't all for nothing
1752
01:32:43,933 --> 01:32:46,519
in that he would live on forever
through his music.
1753
01:32:47,687 --> 01:32:50,022
[Big] I've always said
I'm like the eyes of the world,
1754
01:32:50,523 --> 01:32:52,733
'Cause I done did all the bullshit!
1755
01:32:54,652 --> 01:32:56,988
But you gotta learn from your mistakes.
1756
01:32:58,447 --> 01:33:00,533
Now it's my time to speak about it.
1757
01:33:01,409 --> 01:33:03,578
Not necessarily about making my story,
1758
01:33:03,661 --> 01:33:04,996
"You shouldn't do this,"
1759
01:33:05,079 --> 01:33:06,455
or, "You should do this."
1760
01:33:06,539 --> 01:33:08,624
But just making my story, it's like,
1761
01:33:10,251 --> 01:33:12,128
"This is how it is."
1762
01:33:21,679 --> 01:33:23,306
♪ Who y'all talkin' to, man? ♪
1763
01:33:23,389 --> 01:33:25,099
["I Got a Story to Tell" playing]
1764
01:33:25,182 --> 01:33:26,100
♪ Uh ♪
1765
01:33:26,726 --> 01:33:28,853
♪ Check it out ♪
1766
01:33:30,146 --> 01:33:33,107
♪ I kick flows for ya
Kick down doors for ya ♪
1767
01:33:33,190 --> 01:33:35,610
♪ Even left
All my motherfucking hoes for ya ♪
1768
01:33:35,693 --> 01:33:38,195
♪ Niggas think Frankie pussy whipped
Nigga picture that ♪
1769
01:33:38,279 --> 01:33:41,324
♪ With a Kodak, Insta-ma-tak
We don't get down like that ♪
1770
01:33:41,407 --> 01:33:45,119
♪ Lay my game down quite flat
Sweetness, where you parked at? ♪
1771
01:33:45,202 --> 01:33:47,204
♪ Petiteness but that ass fat ♪
1772
01:33:47,288 --> 01:33:49,498
♪ She got a body
Make a nigga wanna eat that ♪
1773
01:33:49,582 --> 01:33:51,626
♪ I'm fuckin' with you
The bitch official though ♪
1774
01:33:51,709 --> 01:33:53,502
♪ Dick harder than a missile, yo ♪
1775
01:33:53,586 --> 01:33:56,631
♪ Try to hit it if she trippin'
Disappearing like Arsenio ♪
1776
01:33:56,714 --> 01:33:59,550
♪ Yo, the bitch push a double-oh
With the five in front ♪
1777
01:33:59,634 --> 01:34:02,219
♪ Probably a conniving stunt
Y'all drive in front ♪
1778
01:34:02,303 --> 01:34:04,639
♪ I'm a peel with her
Find a deal with her ♪
1779
01:34:04,722 --> 01:34:08,225
♪ She fuck around and steal, huh?
Then we all get laced ♪
1780
01:34:08,309 --> 01:34:10,895
♪ Televisions, Versace heaven
When I'm up in them ♪
1781
01:34:10,978 --> 01:34:13,147
♪ The shit she kicked
All the shit's legit ♪
1782
01:34:13,230 --> 01:34:15,650
♪ She get dick from a player
Off the New York Knicks ♪
1783
01:34:15,733 --> 01:34:18,361
♪ Nigga tricked ridiculous
The shit was plush ♪
1784
01:34:18,444 --> 01:34:21,113
♪ She's stressing me to fuck
Like she was in a rush ♪
1785
01:34:21,197 --> 01:34:23,282
♪ We fucked in his bed, quite dangerous ♪
1786
01:34:23,366 --> 01:34:26,202
♪ I'm in his ass while he
Playing against the Utah Jazz ♪
1787
01:34:26,285 --> 01:34:28,954
♪ My 112, CD blast, I was past ♪
1788
01:34:29,038 --> 01:34:31,457
♪ She came twice, I came last
Roll the grass ♪
1789
01:34:31,540 --> 01:34:34,001
♪ She giggle, sayin'
"I'm smoking on homegrown" ♪
1790
01:34:34,085 --> 01:34:36,379
♪ Then I heard her moan
"Honey I'm home" ♪
1791
01:34:36,462 --> 01:34:38,964
♪ Yup, tote chrome
For situations like this ♪
1792
01:34:39,048 --> 01:34:41,634
♪ I'm up in his broad
I know he won't like this ♪
1793
01:34:41,717 --> 01:34:43,803
♪ Now I'm like
"Bitch, you better talk to him" ♪
1794
01:34:43,886 --> 01:34:48,015
♪ Before this fist put a spark to him
Fuck around shit get dark to him ♪
1795
01:34:48,099 --> 01:34:51,644
♪ Put a part through him
Lose a major part to him, arm, leg ♪
1796
01:34:51,727 --> 01:34:54,397
♪ She beggin' me to stop
But this cat gettin' closer ♪
1797
01:34:54,480 --> 01:34:57,566
♪ Gettin hot like a toaster
I cocks the toast, uh ♪
1798
01:34:57,650 --> 01:34:59,902
♪ Before my eyes could blink
She screams out ♪
1799
01:34:59,985 --> 01:35:04,615
♪ "Honey bring me up somethin' to drink"
He go back downstairs more time to think ♪
1800
01:35:04,699 --> 01:35:07,451
♪ My brain racin'
She's tellin' me to stay patient ♪
1801
01:35:07,535 --> 01:35:11,997
♪ She don't know I'm cool as a fan
Gat in hand, I don't wanna blast her man ♪
1802
01:35:12,081 --> 01:35:15,000
♪ But I can and I will though
I'm tryna chill though ♪
1803
01:35:15,084 --> 01:35:17,586
♪ Even though situation
Lookin' kinda ill, yo ♪
1804
01:35:17,670 --> 01:35:19,588
♪ It came to me like a song I wrote ♪
1805
01:35:19,672 --> 01:35:22,133
♪ Told the bitch
"Gimme your scarf, pillowcase and rope" ♪
1806
01:35:22,216 --> 01:35:24,677
♪ Got dressed quick
Tied the scarf around my face ♪
1807
01:35:24,802 --> 01:35:27,263
♪ Roped the bitch up
Gagged her mouth with the pillowcase ♪
1808
01:35:27,346 --> 01:35:30,099
♪ Play the cut
Nigga coming off some love potion shit ♪
1809
01:35:30,182 --> 01:35:33,352
♪ Flash the heat on 'em
He stood emotionless, dropped the glass ♪
1810
01:35:33,436 --> 01:35:35,438
♪ Screaming
"Don't blast here's the stash ♪
1811
01:35:35,521 --> 01:35:38,107
♪ A hundred cash
Just don't shoot my ass please!" ♪
1812
01:35:38,190 --> 01:35:40,151
♪ Nigga pulling mad G's out the floor ♪
1813
01:35:40,234 --> 01:35:42,653
♪ Put stacks in a Prada knapsack
Hit the door ♪
1814
01:35:42,737 --> 01:35:45,197
♪ Grab the keys to the five
Call my niggas on the cell ♪
1815
01:35:45,281 --> 01:35:47,283
♪ "Bring some weed I got a story to tell"
Uh, uh ♪
1816
01:35:47,366 --> 01:35:50,995
♪ Yo man, y'all niggas ain't gon' believe
What the fuck happened to me ♪
1817
01:35:51,078 --> 01:35:53,080
♪ Remember that bitch
I left the club with, man? ♪
1818
01:35:53,164 --> 01:35:54,039
♪ Yeah ♪
1819
01:35:54,123 --> 01:35:56,333
♪ Yo, sticky, yo
I'm up in this bitch crib ♪
1820
01:35:56,417 --> 01:35:58,836
♪ This bitch fucking one of them
Ol' Knick ass niggas and shit ♪
1821
01:35:59,336 --> 01:36:01,756
- ♪I'm up in the spot, so you know ♪
- ♪ Who cuz? ♪
1822
01:36:01,839 --> 01:36:04,842
"♪ I don't know, I don't know which one?
One of them 6'5" niggas, I don't know ♪
1823
01:36:04,925 --> 01:36:05,801
♪ Yeah ♪
1824
01:36:05,885 --> 01:36:09,513
♪ Anyway I'm up in the motherfucking spot
So boom I'm up in the pussy, whatever ♪
1825
01:36:09,597 --> 01:36:12,975
♪ I sparks up some lye
Pop Duke creeps up in on some ♪
1826
01:36:13,058 --> 01:36:14,059
♪ Get the fuck out ♪
1827
01:36:14,143 --> 01:36:17,396
♪ Must have been rained out or something
He comes up in the spot ♪
1828
01:36:17,480 --> 01:36:22,276
♪ Had me scared, had me scared to death
I was shook Daddy ♪
1829
01:36:22,359 --> 01:36:24,361
♪ But I forgot I had my Roscoe on me ♪
1830
01:36:26,113 --> 01:36:28,574
♪ Always, you know how we do ♪
1831
01:36:28,657 --> 01:36:31,994
♪ So boom the nigga comes up the stairs
He creeping up the steps ♪
1832
01:36:32,077 --> 01:36:34,538
♪ The bitch all shook
She sends the nigga back downstairs ♪
1833
01:36:34,622 --> 01:36:36,081
♪ To get some drinks and shit ♪
1834
01:36:36,165 --> 01:36:38,709
♪ Shit gettin' mad nervous
So I said fuck that man ♪
1835
01:36:38,793 --> 01:36:41,629
♪ I know you was ready to clap him
Man nigga, you know how we do nigga ♪
1836
01:36:41,712 --> 01:36:45,007
♪ Ransom note style put the scarf
Around my motherfucking face ♪
1837
01:36:45,090 --> 01:36:47,259
♪ Gagged that bitch up
Played the kizzack ♪
1838
01:36:48,511 --> 01:36:52,139
♪ Soon as this nigga comes up in the spot
Flash the Desert in his face ♪
1839
01:36:52,223 --> 01:36:53,808
♪ He drops the glass ♪
1840
01:36:53,891 --> 01:36:57,645
♪ Looked like the nigga pissed on himself
Or somethin', word to my mother ♪
1841
01:36:58,813 --> 01:37:02,608
♪ Motherfucker, this nigga runs dead
To the floor, peels up the carpet ♪
1842
01:37:02,691 --> 01:37:05,277
- ♪ Start giving me mad paper ♪
- ♪ Oh shit ♪
1843
01:37:05,361 --> 01:37:06,362
♪ Mad paper ♪
1844
01:37:06,445 --> 01:37:10,199
♪ Yo, I told you that bitch
Was a shiesty bitch, cuz ♪
1845
01:37:10,282 --> 01:37:13,953
♪ Word to your mama I used to fuck
With her cousin but you ain't know that ♪
1846
01:37:14,036 --> 01:37:15,454
[laughter]
1847
01:37:15,538 --> 01:37:17,248
♪ You wouldn't know that shit ♪
1848
01:37:17,331 --> 01:37:18,249
♪ Really though ♪
1849
01:37:18,332 --> 01:37:21,460
♪ I put all that motherfucking money
Up in the Prada knapsack ♪
1850
01:37:21,544 --> 01:37:24,463
♪ And uh, two words, I'm gone ♪
1851
01:37:24,547 --> 01:37:25,548
[laughter]
1852
01:37:25,631 --> 01:37:27,633
♪ No doubt, no doubt ♪
1853
01:37:28,175 --> 01:37:30,302
♪ Yo nigga, you got some loud?
Y'all got some loud? ♪
1854
01:37:30,386 --> 01:37:31,303
♪ No doubt ♪
1855
01:37:33,222 --> 01:37:34,890
♪ Yo, you got that dust, baby? ♪
1856
01:37:34,974 --> 01:37:37,226
♪ The other day
Was a good day for you, baby ♪
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