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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,488 --> 00:00:05,155 (cow mooing) (clanking) 2 00:00:16,189 --> 00:00:18,856 (pensive music) 3 00:00:56,521 --> 00:00:58,790 - [Narrator] On December 16th, 2017, 4 00:00:58,790 --> 00:01:00,460 footage shot by the U.S. Navy 5 00:01:00,460 --> 00:01:03,460 spread panic among the American population. 6 00:01:03,460 --> 00:01:06,980 Until then classified as a top secret defense matter, 7 00:01:06,980 --> 00:01:09,660 three videos of unidentified flying objects 8 00:01:09,660 --> 00:01:12,830 filmed by F-18s were made public. 9 00:01:12,830 --> 00:01:16,930 They would be authenticated by the Pentagon in April 2020. 10 00:01:16,930 --> 00:01:20,240 The first video dates from November 2004. 11 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:21,690 It was filmed by a patrol 12 00:01:21,690 --> 00:01:24,760 flying near the U.S. aircraft carrier, Nimitz. 13 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:27,150 In the footage, a capsule-shaped object 14 00:01:27,150 --> 00:01:30,690 is performing maneuvers that defy the laws of physics. 15 00:01:30,690 --> 00:01:31,660 On that same day, 16 00:01:31,660 --> 00:01:34,540 the radars of the missile cruiser, USS Princeton, 17 00:01:34,540 --> 00:01:37,840 confirmed the presence of several flying objects. 18 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:41,100 An F-18 patrol was immediately dispatched to the spot 19 00:01:41,100 --> 00:01:44,920 and filmed one of what are commonly known as UFOs, 20 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:48,740 but what experts prefer to refer to as UAPs, 21 00:01:48,740 --> 00:01:51,370 Unidentified Aerial Phenomena. 22 00:01:51,370 --> 00:01:52,510 Around the same time, 23 00:01:52,510 --> 00:01:54,960 the serious and respected New York Times 24 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:57,503 revealed the existence of a secret program. 25 00:01:58,770 --> 00:02:00,070 - [Anchor] Tonight, CNN has learned 26 00:02:00,070 --> 00:02:03,430 the Pentagon had a secretive program to research UFOs 27 00:02:03,430 --> 00:02:05,350 like the one Fravor spotted. 28 00:02:05,350 --> 00:02:06,290 The project was called 29 00:02:06,290 --> 00:02:09,430 the Advanced Aviation Threat Identification Program 30 00:02:09,430 --> 00:02:11,800 run by an official named Luis Elizondo. 31 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:13,260 Tens of millions of dollars 32 00:02:13,260 --> 00:02:15,120 for the project were pushed through 33 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:17,683 by former Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid. 34 00:02:19,500 --> 00:02:21,563 - I was a leader of the Senate at the time, 35 00:02:21,563 --> 00:02:26,140 and I went and talked to Senator Inouye from Hawaii, 36 00:02:26,140 --> 00:02:28,260 Senator Stevens from Alaska. 37 00:02:28,260 --> 00:02:31,420 They were the two leading members of Corporations Committee 38 00:02:31,420 --> 00:02:35,960 that determined where money would be spent for defense. 39 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:38,940 They also controlled what is called the dark money, 40 00:02:38,940 --> 00:02:41,743 the black money, that didn't show up any place. 41 00:02:43,470 --> 00:02:45,913 It was secretive, it was classified. 42 00:02:46,980 --> 00:02:50,410 And so, I asked them to meet in a secure room 43 00:02:50,410 --> 00:02:52,620 in the United States Capitol. 44 00:02:52,620 --> 00:02:55,710 And I said, "Give a little bit of background." 45 00:02:55,710 --> 00:02:59,740 I said, "I want to spend some money trying figure out 46 00:02:59,740 --> 00:03:01,477 what the hell is this all about." 47 00:03:03,810 --> 00:03:06,530 - [Narrative] the U.S. media leapt on these revelations. 48 00:03:06,530 --> 00:03:09,180 The disclosure of the existence of a secret program 49 00:03:09,180 --> 00:03:13,050 to study UFOs at a cost of $22 million 50 00:03:13,050 --> 00:03:14,870 was taken very seriously. 51 00:03:14,870 --> 00:03:17,160 Alain Juillet is the former head of intelligence 52 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:19,363 for the French Secret Service Overseas. 53 00:03:20,233 --> 00:03:22,200 (speaks in foreign language) 54 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,350 - [Interpreter] The fact that it was a US Senator 55 00:03:24,350 --> 00:03:25,840 who insisted on this inquiry 56 00:03:26,700 --> 00:03:28,750 shows that there was a very real problem. 57 00:03:32,247 --> 00:03:35,110 And the American authorities decided, 58 00:03:35,110 --> 00:03:36,803 due to the senator's request, 59 00:03:37,860 --> 00:03:39,223 to carry out this inquiry. 60 00:03:40,430 --> 00:03:42,170 And it did so because there were 61 00:03:42,170 --> 00:03:44,700 a certain number of phenomena 62 00:03:44,700 --> 00:03:48,143 about which American pilots, along with some others, 63 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:52,560 were asking very serious questions 64 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:55,580 due to the images they had filmed or seen. 65 00:03:55,580 --> 00:03:59,060 - [Narrator] In the States, the story hit the headlines, 66 00:03:59,060 --> 00:04:01,690 and David Fravor, one of the F-18 pilots 67 00:04:01,690 --> 00:04:03,440 flying during the Nimitz case, 68 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:06,263 gave his account on CNN at peak viewing time. 69 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:09,360 - Well, the first thing is it had no wings, 70 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:11,680 so you think, "Okay, it's a helicopter." 71 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:13,240 But there's no rotor wash in the water. 72 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:14,420 There's no rotors. 73 00:04:14,420 --> 00:04:16,500 This was extremely abrupt, like a ping pong ball 74 00:04:16,500 --> 00:04:17,333 bouncing off a wall. 75 00:04:17,333 --> 00:04:18,480 It would hit and go the other way, 76 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:20,820 and change directions at will. 77 00:04:20,820 --> 00:04:23,380 And then the ability to hover over the water, 78 00:04:23,380 --> 00:04:26,210 and then start a vertical climb from basically zero 79 00:04:26,210 --> 00:04:28,340 up towards about 12,000 feet, 80 00:04:28,340 --> 00:04:31,030 and then accelerate in less than two seconds and disappear 81 00:04:31,030 --> 00:04:33,600 is something I had never seen in my life. 82 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:35,670 I believe, as do the other folks 83 00:04:35,670 --> 00:04:37,890 that were on the flight, when we visually saw it, 84 00:04:37,890 --> 00:04:39,990 that it was something not from this world. 85 00:04:41,690 --> 00:04:42,670 - [Narrator] For the experts, 86 00:04:42,670 --> 00:04:45,060 this eyewitness account was mind-blowing, 87 00:04:45,060 --> 00:04:47,040 and legitimized the film. 88 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:50,430 Until then, the military had rarely given its opinion. 89 00:04:50,430 --> 00:04:53,920 a massive shift had just taken place in the United States. 90 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:55,990 - The United States military has said, 91 00:04:55,990 --> 00:04:59,293 okay, there's no need trying to keep all this secret. 92 00:05:00,410 --> 00:05:04,110 So pilots can report these phenomenon 93 00:05:04,110 --> 00:05:06,840 without fear of not being promoted. 94 00:05:06,840 --> 00:05:08,800 They can report these to their superiors. 95 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:10,250 They couldn't do that before. 96 00:05:11,840 --> 00:05:13,690 - [Narrator] But the Americans aren't the only ones 97 00:05:13,690 --> 00:05:15,780 to study this subject seriously. 98 00:05:15,780 --> 00:05:17,780 Across the globe, a number of countries 99 00:05:17,780 --> 00:05:20,340 have established organizations or programs 100 00:05:20,340 --> 00:05:23,000 to carry out research into UAP. 101 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:24,750 In France, the SIGMA 2 commission 102 00:05:24,750 --> 00:05:27,773 examines the most credible incidents like the Nimitz case. 103 00:05:27,773 --> 00:05:29,820 - [Interpreter] So we tried to reconstruct 104 00:05:29,820 --> 00:05:31,880 what had been observed during the Naval exercises 105 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:34,980 carried out around the Nimitz, the Princeton, et cetera, 106 00:05:34,980 --> 00:05:39,980 between November 10th and 13th, 2004. 107 00:05:40,020 --> 00:05:41,810 A certain number of repeated detections 108 00:05:41,810 --> 00:05:45,300 were picked up by the radars between eight and 20 miles 109 00:05:45,300 --> 00:05:48,130 to the South of Catalina Island off California 110 00:05:49,540 --> 00:05:53,113 at 80,000 feet and moving at about 100 knots. 111 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:56,810 Now, 100 knots is extremely slow 112 00:05:56,810 --> 00:05:59,373 for an aircraft flying at such an altitude. 113 00:06:01,550 --> 00:06:03,420 - [Narrator] Formed in 2013, SIGMA 2 114 00:06:03,420 --> 00:06:05,770 was made up of fighter pilots, engineers, 115 00:06:05,770 --> 00:06:08,100 military officials, and even astronauts 116 00:06:08,100 --> 00:06:10,100 such as Jean-Francois Clervoy. 117 00:06:10,100 --> 00:06:12,560 As for Pierre Bescond, he's a former director 118 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:14,790 of the space center in Kourou French Guiana, 119 00:06:14,790 --> 00:06:17,090 where the famous Ariane rockets were launched. 120 00:06:18,770 --> 00:06:19,960 - [Interpreter 1] I don't agree with scientists 121 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:21,693 who immediately say it's baloney. 122 00:06:22,893 --> 00:06:23,726 No. 123 00:06:24,830 --> 00:06:26,240 If observations are made by those 124 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:28,400 whose job it is to make observations, 125 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:30,630 like fighter pilots, for example, 126 00:06:30,630 --> 00:06:32,480 then what they've seen isn't baloney. 127 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:36,810 If you don't understand something, 128 00:06:36,810 --> 00:06:38,380 then you put it on a shelf 129 00:06:38,380 --> 00:06:40,690 and wait till there's a better scientific understanding 130 00:06:40,690 --> 00:06:43,200 of the physical phenomenon, 131 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:45,650 until the correct study of it can be carried out. 132 00:06:46,750 --> 00:06:48,340 But you don't just discard it as baloney. 133 00:06:48,340 --> 00:06:50,640 In my mind, that's nonsensical. 134 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:52,170 - [Interpreter 2] It's not a question of believing 135 00:06:52,170 --> 00:06:54,770 in UFO's or UAPs or not. 136 00:06:54,770 --> 00:06:57,483 Serious research is being carried on on the subject. 137 00:06:58,330 --> 00:07:00,350 This radar detected 14 echoes 138 00:07:00,350 --> 00:07:03,990 spread uniformly over a distance of about 100 miles 139 00:07:03,990 --> 00:07:08,170 at altitudes of between 28,000 feet and 500 feet. 140 00:07:08,170 --> 00:07:11,070 And these readings correlate with those from other radars. 141 00:07:13,970 --> 00:07:16,450 - [Narrator] SIGMA 2 works closely with the CNES, 142 00:07:16,450 --> 00:07:18,850 the French National Center for Space Studies, 143 00:07:18,850 --> 00:07:22,250 and more precisely with one of its branches, GEIPAN, 144 00:07:22,250 --> 00:07:25,610 Group for the Study of Unidentified Aerial Phenomena. 145 00:07:25,610 --> 00:07:28,010 For more than 40 years, they've been trying to shed light 146 00:07:28,010 --> 00:07:29,750 on the origin of certain UAPs. 147 00:07:35,050 --> 00:07:37,720 - [Interpreter] GEIPAN is tasked with collecting, 148 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:41,300 examining and analyzing sightings made by eyewitnesses 149 00:07:41,300 --> 00:07:42,343 on French soil. 150 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:48,050 - [Narrator] Indeed, it was one such incident in France, 151 00:07:48,050 --> 00:07:50,970 very similar to the case revealed by the U.S. Navy, 152 00:07:50,970 --> 00:07:53,440 which was behind the founding of GEIPAN. 153 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:55,790 A former head of the group Jean-Jacques Velasco 154 00:07:55,790 --> 00:07:59,460 in charge for 21 years and now an independent expert, 155 00:07:59,460 --> 00:08:01,300 clearly remembers the unsolved case 156 00:08:01,300 --> 00:08:03,433 at the origin of the group's creation. 157 00:08:07,610 --> 00:08:11,280 - [Interpreter 1] In France one siting in 1951 158 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:12,733 involved the air force. 159 00:08:17,380 --> 00:08:20,320 Fighter pilots out on a patrolling mission 160 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:22,070 observed over the town of Orange 161 00:08:23,364 --> 00:08:26,873 an object moving at the same speed as their own planes. 162 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:31,133 when they flew alongside to intercept it, 163 00:08:33,450 --> 00:08:34,950 it suddenly accelerated 164 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:38,983 and flew off at incredible speed. 165 00:08:40,650 --> 00:08:43,970 A report was submitted to the air force chief of staff. 166 00:08:43,970 --> 00:08:45,913 And it went all the way up to the minister. 167 00:08:48,290 --> 00:08:50,750 And then recommendations were made 168 00:08:50,750 --> 00:08:52,930 to create a French agency 169 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:58,623 to collect and analyze data on UAPs. 170 00:09:01,866 --> 00:09:05,160 And that's how Claude Poher, the ufologist and astronomer 171 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:09,133 at CNES was given the task of founding GEIPAN. 172 00:09:11,424 --> 00:09:12,630 - [Interpreter 2] It was a very brave move 173 00:09:12,630 --> 00:09:14,690 by the CNES at the time 174 00:09:14,690 --> 00:09:18,503 to decide to respond to such questions and create GEIPAN. 175 00:09:19,561 --> 00:09:23,020 It was very brave because it was a scientific approach. 176 00:09:23,020 --> 00:09:26,610 Certain phenomena are cited that we don't understand, 177 00:09:26,610 --> 00:09:29,140 so we'll question the people who saw them, 178 00:09:29,140 --> 00:09:32,310 said about studying them and try to find some answers. 179 00:09:32,310 --> 00:09:34,633 It was a very scientific approach. 180 00:09:36,510 --> 00:09:37,810 - [Interpreter 1] At first patrol was sent out 181 00:09:37,810 --> 00:09:40,023 to about 60 miles from the Nimitz. 182 00:09:41,420 --> 00:09:43,713 A trace of foam was observed at sea level. 183 00:09:47,050 --> 00:09:50,020 So one of the F-18s made a fast downward move 184 00:09:50,020 --> 00:09:51,793 towards this area of foam. 185 00:09:55,893 --> 00:09:58,430 There was an object described as a big Tic Tac, 186 00:09:58,430 --> 00:10:01,370 which changed course and began to climb. 187 00:10:01,370 --> 00:10:02,340 So there was a maneuver 188 00:10:02,340 --> 00:10:04,253 which could be considered intelligent. 189 00:10:07,460 --> 00:10:09,073 A second patrol was sent out, 190 00:10:09,910 --> 00:10:11,180 but it wasn't until the third group 191 00:10:11,180 --> 00:10:15,930 of F-18s reached the area equipped with infrared cameras, 192 00:10:15,930 --> 00:10:18,173 that they could capture the famous images. 193 00:10:19,870 --> 00:10:21,360 - [Narrator] And along with the images, 194 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:24,604 the comments of the stupefied U.S. Navy pilots. 195 00:10:24,604 --> 00:10:27,686 - [Pilot] There's a whole fleet of them. Look on the S.A. 196 00:10:27,686 --> 00:10:28,519 My gosh. 197 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:31,965 They are going against the wind. 198 00:10:31,965 --> 00:10:34,251 The wind is 120 miles to the west. 199 00:10:34,251 --> 00:10:36,334 Look at that thing, dude. 200 00:10:44,753 --> 00:10:49,231 That's not a (indistinct), is it? 201 00:10:49,231 --> 00:10:50,750 Look at that thing! 202 00:10:50,750 --> 00:10:51,583 It's rotating. 203 00:10:52,770 --> 00:10:57,170 - [Interpreter] Here was something undeniable as it were, 204 00:10:57,170 --> 00:10:59,380 the pilots saw it, the cameras filmed it, 205 00:10:59,380 --> 00:11:00,973 the control tower picked it up. 206 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:03,700 Suddenly there was a real problem. 207 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:06,490 - [Interpreter] A certain number of cases 208 00:11:06,490 --> 00:11:08,763 clearly show interaction with the planes. 209 00:11:10,937 --> 00:11:12,083 And this was proven. 210 00:11:14,290 --> 00:11:17,510 When you take the number of aerial cases worldwide, 211 00:11:17,510 --> 00:11:21,843 officially recorded cases, there were about 2,000 of them, 212 00:11:24,087 --> 00:11:27,350 and 140 of these feature the same stereotypes 213 00:11:27,350 --> 00:11:30,033 that have been reported since 1947, 214 00:11:32,250 --> 00:11:36,170 objects with speeds that can go from zero 215 00:11:36,170 --> 00:11:40,883 up to 10,000, 20,000 kilometers an hour recorded by radars. 216 00:11:42,310 --> 00:11:44,523 Absolutely phenomenal accelerations. 217 00:11:45,680 --> 00:11:48,753 Trajectories, which are totally impossible for our planes. 218 00:11:51,890 --> 00:11:55,900 Spinning around our planes, climbing vertically, 219 00:11:55,900 --> 00:11:58,600 then zooming off horizontally. 220 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:01,260 - What I say is this: 221 00:12:02,183 --> 00:12:05,810 we originally thought these were confined to the air, 222 00:12:05,810 --> 00:12:08,800 but that's not what we know now. 223 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:11,430 There have been a very unusual occurrences 224 00:12:11,430 --> 00:12:13,560 in the water, in the ocean, 225 00:12:13,560 --> 00:12:16,440 not once, but numerous times now. 226 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:19,620 people reporting strange things happening to ships. 227 00:12:19,620 --> 00:12:22,393 Sometimes our communication is just terminated. 228 00:12:23,530 --> 00:12:26,440 So yes, I think it's extremely important 229 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:28,780 that we do everything we can 230 00:12:28,780 --> 00:12:31,230 to find out what this is all about. 231 00:12:31,230 --> 00:12:33,813 (uneasy music) 232 00:12:42,420 --> 00:12:45,227 - [Interpreter] Periodically, Pentagon 233 00:12:45,227 --> 00:12:47,530 and the U.S. air force chief of staff 234 00:12:47,530 --> 00:12:48,680 show interest in UFO's, 235 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:55,403 because there are regular alerts that pose big questions. 236 00:12:57,762 --> 00:12:59,883 This is very worrying for the military, 237 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:03,783 because soldiers like to know who they are facing. 238 00:13:05,140 --> 00:13:08,670 So if you're faced with something you don't understand 239 00:13:08,670 --> 00:13:11,750 and therefore can't master, it's only natural for them 240 00:13:11,750 --> 00:13:14,559 to try to understand and set up commissions 241 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:16,300 to find out what exactly was going on 242 00:13:16,300 --> 00:13:17,650 with some of the sightings. 243 00:13:18,890 --> 00:13:20,660 - [Narrator] And these worries aren't recent. 244 00:13:20,660 --> 00:13:23,410 Since the end of World War II, the U.S. authorities 245 00:13:23,410 --> 00:13:25,170 have established several commissions 246 00:13:25,170 --> 00:13:27,210 to investigate such phenomena, 247 00:13:27,210 --> 00:13:29,420 notably project Blue Book, 248 00:13:29,420 --> 00:13:32,220 for which the famous astronomer J. Allen Hynek 249 00:13:32,220 --> 00:13:34,260 was the scientific consultant. 250 00:13:34,260 --> 00:13:37,395 He didn't believe in UFO's, but after several years of study 251 00:13:37,395 --> 00:13:40,899 he began to have doubts and finally validated the reality 252 00:13:40,899 --> 00:13:43,173 of these unexplained phenomena. 253 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:46,595 At the time, the U.S. military was already forced 254 00:13:46,595 --> 00:13:49,633 to communicate on these very special cases. 255 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:57,233 - I am here to discuss the so-called flying saucers. 256 00:13:58,450 --> 00:14:01,299 The air force interest in this problem 257 00:14:01,299 --> 00:14:03,910 has been due to our feeling of an obligation 258 00:14:03,910 --> 00:14:08,890 to identify and analyze to the best of our ability 259 00:14:08,890 --> 00:14:13,720 anything in the air that may have the possibility of threat 260 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:15,423 or menace to the United States. 261 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:20,183 In pursuit of this obligation, since 1947, 262 00:14:21,090 --> 00:14:25,363 we have received and analyzed between one and 2,000 reports. 263 00:14:26,510 --> 00:14:29,110 However, there have been a certain percentage 264 00:14:29,110 --> 00:14:30,680 of this volume of reports 265 00:14:31,830 --> 00:14:35,280 that have been made by credible observers 266 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:37,593 of relatively incredible thing. 267 00:14:39,130 --> 00:14:41,360 It is this group of observations 268 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:43,983 that we now are attempting to resolve. 269 00:14:45,180 --> 00:14:46,960 - [Narrator] Today, the U.S. is still driven 270 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:48,580 by the same preoccupations. 271 00:14:48,580 --> 00:14:51,710 Nothing has changed. They fear for homeland security. 272 00:14:51,710 --> 00:14:55,060 They must protect their population from a potential attack. 273 00:14:55,060 --> 00:14:58,430 Like in the 1950s, this concern motivated officials 274 00:14:58,430 --> 00:15:01,080 to analyze new footage shot by the U.S. Navy 275 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:02,240 in recent years. 276 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:05,233 This was the reason behind the famous ATIP program. 277 00:15:06,370 --> 00:15:11,010 - There are scores and scores of occurrences 278 00:15:11,010 --> 00:15:12,370 that are reported. 279 00:15:12,370 --> 00:15:13,720 And not only that, our technology 280 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:15,670 has gotten much better on airplanes, 281 00:15:15,670 --> 00:15:18,120 and they can take pictures of these things. 282 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:21,370 And we've got some stunningly good pictures of them. 283 00:15:21,370 --> 00:15:23,770 Are they a threat? I don't know. 284 00:15:23,770 --> 00:15:26,930 But I do know that we can't turn our heads 285 00:15:26,930 --> 00:15:29,893 and pretend they don't exist, because they do exist. 286 00:15:31,914 --> 00:15:34,031 - [Pilot 1] (mumbling) object on the- 287 00:15:34,031 --> 00:15:37,780 - [Pilot 2] Oh my god, dude! (laughing) 288 00:15:37,780 --> 00:15:40,067 - [Pilot 1] Roger. 289 00:15:40,067 --> 00:15:42,399 - [Pilot 2] Look at this right here! 290 00:15:42,399 --> 00:15:45,065 You got to (indistinct). 291 00:15:45,065 --> 00:15:46,381 - [Pilot 1] No, I took (indistinct). 292 00:15:46,381 --> 00:15:47,989 - [Pilot 2] Oh, okay. 293 00:15:47,989 --> 00:15:49,607 - [Pilot 1] Oh my gosh, dude. 294 00:15:49,607 --> 00:15:54,607 - [Pilot 2] Wow, what is that? (indistinct) 295 00:15:54,912 --> 00:15:56,330 - [Interpreter] After World War II, 296 00:15:56,330 --> 00:15:57,870 a lot of Americans believed 297 00:15:57,870 --> 00:16:00,043 that the Russians were behind UFO's. 298 00:16:01,740 --> 00:16:05,000 They thought the reds have discovered new technologies 299 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:06,853 and they're using them to spy on us. 300 00:16:08,530 --> 00:16:11,123 If it were one of the super powers behind UFO's, 301 00:16:12,797 --> 00:16:15,870 the U.S., Russia or China, 302 00:16:15,870 --> 00:16:17,820 since the beginning of these incidents, 303 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:21,470 there would certainly have been a leak at some point 304 00:16:21,470 --> 00:16:23,020 to show that this was the case. 305 00:16:23,860 --> 00:16:27,450 But no intelligence has ever come out on this subject, 306 00:16:27,450 --> 00:16:30,130 neither confirming, nor refuting 307 00:16:30,130 --> 00:16:32,350 that it's the Russians, the Americans, or the Chinese. 308 00:16:32,350 --> 00:16:35,000 So I don't believe that. I think it's something else. 309 00:16:40,770 --> 00:16:42,920 - [Narrator] Something else? Then what? 310 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:44,990 While those in charge are asking questions, 311 00:16:44,990 --> 00:16:47,050 so too is the general public. 312 00:16:47,050 --> 00:16:49,400 And that's the mission of Mufon. 313 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:53,110 Since the 1950s, this network of scientists and engineers 314 00:16:53,110 --> 00:16:55,520 have collected piles of eyewitness accounts 315 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:57,520 from across the United States. 316 00:16:57,520 --> 00:16:59,740 It even has branches in Europe. 317 00:16:59,740 --> 00:17:01,300 It has a long reaching network 318 00:17:01,300 --> 00:17:03,980 with investigators in every state. 319 00:17:03,980 --> 00:17:05,770 Mufon is taken very seriously 320 00:17:05,770 --> 00:17:07,810 even by the American government. 321 00:17:07,810 --> 00:17:10,120 It was one of its reports that drew the interest 322 00:17:10,120 --> 00:17:11,650 of Senator Harry Reid 323 00:17:11,650 --> 00:17:14,113 and gave rise to the famous AATIP program. 324 00:17:15,290 --> 00:17:18,720 - Based on the information in the Mufon database, 325 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:23,510 that information was used to justify to Congress funding 326 00:17:23,510 --> 00:17:26,090 for the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification program, 327 00:17:26,090 --> 00:17:27,380 which is what was revealed 328 00:17:27,380 --> 00:17:32,380 in the December 16th, 2017 Times' front page article 329 00:17:32,470 --> 00:17:34,840 about the Pentagon secret UFO development. 330 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:36,770 It was the Mufon data that was used 331 00:17:36,770 --> 00:17:40,510 to justify getting that program in place. 332 00:17:40,510 --> 00:17:42,570 10 years later, when the story broke 333 00:17:42,570 --> 00:17:44,440 on the front page of New York Times, 334 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:47,820 that was really the beginning of disclosure, in my opinion, 335 00:17:47,820 --> 00:17:49,570 for this being a real phenomenon 336 00:17:49,570 --> 00:17:51,470 and for people paying attention to it. 337 00:17:53,910 --> 00:17:56,210 - [Narrator] Disclosure, the key word. 338 00:17:56,210 --> 00:17:59,910 Was this revelation involuntary or organized? 339 00:17:59,910 --> 00:18:03,080 In effect, since December 16th, 2017, 340 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:05,150 military officials and politicians 341 00:18:05,150 --> 00:18:07,313 have regularly appeared in the media. 342 00:18:09,810 --> 00:18:10,670 - [Interpreter] There is undeniably 343 00:18:10,670 --> 00:18:12,243 a communication operation. 344 00:18:13,460 --> 00:18:17,980 It's hard to imagine, in the United States army offices, 345 00:18:17,980 --> 00:18:20,250 former Pentagon officials et cetera, 346 00:18:20,250 --> 00:18:23,650 are communicating like this in a totally free 347 00:18:23,650 --> 00:18:26,890 and unbridled way, without there being 348 00:18:26,890 --> 00:18:28,783 some kind of framework behind them. 349 00:18:31,570 --> 00:18:32,560 - [Interpreter] The moment that you have 350 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:35,640 a communication campaign with expert professionals 351 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:40,640 explaining things, the least that you can say 352 00:18:40,930 --> 00:18:42,700 is that it's an awareness campaign 353 00:18:42,700 --> 00:18:44,100 for the American population. 354 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:46,870 The least you can say. 355 00:18:46,870 --> 00:18:49,740 It could also be preparation for a new reality, 356 00:18:49,740 --> 00:18:51,630 with the authorities telling people, 357 00:18:51,630 --> 00:18:55,360 this is how it really is, so that we're all ready for it. 358 00:18:55,360 --> 00:18:59,890 Imagine us simply being told, okay, we're now certain: 359 00:18:59,890 --> 00:19:02,853 our world is visited by beings from other worlds, 360 00:19:06,150 --> 00:19:10,043 or passages between several worlds have been opened up. 361 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:12,960 That would cause a huge problem 362 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:15,304 and get a lot of people thinking, 363 00:19:15,304 --> 00:19:19,093 because humankind would be entering unchartered territory, 364 00:19:20,150 --> 00:19:22,800 territory where we're no longer in control of things. 365 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:27,920 We think they're friendly, but we're not really sure. 366 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:30,870 That means being confronted with something we can't master. 367 00:19:32,896 --> 00:19:34,850 And human beings, today more than ever, 368 00:19:34,850 --> 00:19:38,213 hate being in situations where they have no control. 369 00:19:40,830 --> 00:19:42,920 - [Narrator] This is clearly what the American experts 370 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:44,660 inside Mufon think. 371 00:19:44,660 --> 00:19:46,520 Paul Hynek is well-placed to know it. 372 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:48,890 He's the son of the scientific consultant 373 00:19:48,890 --> 00:19:52,200 of the famous project Blue Book in the '50s and '60s 374 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:53,630 J. Allen Hynek. 375 00:19:53,630 --> 00:19:56,410 He was raised amid piles of UFO reports 376 00:19:56,410 --> 00:19:59,610 and he now sees a shift in the recent communication policies 377 00:19:59,610 --> 00:20:01,360 of the American government. 378 00:20:01,360 --> 00:20:05,173 - The disclosure of the existence of the AATIP program, 379 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:09,400 Advanced Aerial Threat Identification Program, 380 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:13,900 and their recent disclosures about what the Navy has seen 381 00:20:13,900 --> 00:20:15,970 and admitted that they've been seeing 382 00:20:15,970 --> 00:20:18,890 for over nine month periods of UFOs every day almost. 383 00:20:18,890 --> 00:20:20,370 And they can't explain them, 384 00:20:20,370 --> 00:20:22,150 and to be frank, they need some help. 385 00:20:22,150 --> 00:20:23,610 That's rather startling. 386 00:20:23,610 --> 00:20:26,500 It's very candid confession on the part of the government. 387 00:20:26,500 --> 00:20:30,100 So it certainly seems, and my friend Richard Dolan 388 00:20:30,100 --> 00:20:32,870 is very convincing in a presentation he makes 389 00:20:32,870 --> 00:20:35,920 of sort of the timeline of events leading up 390 00:20:36,770 --> 00:20:39,690 to what may be a grand disclosure. 391 00:20:39,690 --> 00:20:42,120 There certainly seems to be activity 392 00:20:42,120 --> 00:20:44,130 by the U.S. government recently 393 00:20:44,130 --> 00:20:47,310 that's consistent with that of a government 394 00:20:47,310 --> 00:20:49,750 that's acclimating the populace 395 00:20:49,750 --> 00:20:51,853 to a potential grand disclosure. 396 00:20:53,590 --> 00:20:55,510 - [Narrator] Paul Hynek and the other members of Mufon 397 00:20:55,510 --> 00:20:58,540 are convinced: in 2018 they even invited 398 00:20:58,540 --> 00:21:02,480 the former head of AATIP, Luis Elizondo, as a guest speaker. 399 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:04,270 He confirmed their intuitions. 400 00:21:04,270 --> 00:21:06,880 - I think disclosure already occurred. 401 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:09,190 I don't think necessarily disclosure is an event. 402 00:21:09,190 --> 00:21:10,890 I think it's a process. 403 00:21:10,890 --> 00:21:12,440 And I think that process began. 404 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:13,920 This is real. 405 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:17,760 This is what your $22 million worth of tax money 406 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:19,220 was spent on. 407 00:21:19,220 --> 00:21:20,420 And there's a lot of it. 408 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:24,830 - [Narrator] But what purpose did this $22 million serve? 409 00:21:24,830 --> 00:21:28,370 What light has been shed on unidentified aerial phenomena? 410 00:21:28,370 --> 00:21:29,750 What studies exactly 411 00:21:29,750 --> 00:21:32,880 did the Americans carry out within AATIP? 412 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:36,210 Work was essentially overseen by Bigelow Aerospace, 413 00:21:36,210 --> 00:21:38,940 a company run by Robert Bigelow, 414 00:21:38,940 --> 00:21:40,700 a businessman with strong views 415 00:21:40,700 --> 00:21:43,703 who's convinced extra terrestrial life exists. 416 00:21:44,900 --> 00:21:47,470 - I'm absolutely convinced. That's all there is to it. 417 00:21:47,470 --> 00:21:50,650 - Do you also believe that UFO's have come to earth? 418 00:21:50,650 --> 00:21:52,781 - There has been and is an existing presence, 419 00:21:52,781 --> 00:21:54,102 an ET presence. 420 00:21:54,102 --> 00:21:54,935 - Where exactly? 421 00:21:54,935 --> 00:21:56,620 - It's just like right under people's noses. 422 00:21:56,620 --> 00:21:59,920 Oh my gosh. Wow. 423 00:21:59,920 --> 00:22:02,010 - [Narrator] Why did Senator Reid decide to work 424 00:22:02,010 --> 00:22:03,600 with Bigelow Aerospace? 425 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:05,880 A choice that may seem surprising 426 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:08,850 and one that earned him a good deal of reproach. 427 00:22:08,850 --> 00:22:11,360 Today, he still backs his decision. 428 00:22:11,360 --> 00:22:12,943 - I wanted to spend this money. 429 00:22:13,780 --> 00:22:16,590 I indicated $22 million. 430 00:22:16,590 --> 00:22:19,170 But we couldn't direct that money to someone. 431 00:22:19,170 --> 00:22:21,330 So we put it out for bid, 432 00:22:21,330 --> 00:22:23,640 and everybody had the opportunity 433 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:25,970 that was interested to bid on it. 434 00:22:25,970 --> 00:22:29,670 Bigelow bid on it and the United States military thought 435 00:22:29,670 --> 00:22:31,470 his bid was the best. 436 00:22:31,470 --> 00:22:33,820 And so that's why he undertook this. 437 00:22:33,820 --> 00:22:36,443 And he did it for a number of reasons. 438 00:22:36,443 --> 00:22:40,760 First of all, he's been interested in these objects 439 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:42,500 for many, many years. 440 00:22:42,500 --> 00:22:44,780 And because of that, he was willing 441 00:22:44,780 --> 00:22:48,630 to provide a lot more than any that of the bidders would do. 442 00:22:48,630 --> 00:22:53,200 I mean, office space and space for technology. 443 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,401 He did a good job of appearing for his bid 444 00:22:55,401 --> 00:22:58,183 and he got the bid, and I'm glad he did. 445 00:22:59,890 --> 00:23:03,080 - [Narrator] So what fields did Bigelow Aerospace work in? 446 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:05,390 This document recently declassified 447 00:23:05,390 --> 00:23:07,610 by the U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency 448 00:23:07,610 --> 00:23:10,650 reveals the research carried out by the company. 449 00:23:10,650 --> 00:23:14,030 In all 38 ultra complex fields of study 450 00:23:14,030 --> 00:23:15,970 covering futuristic technologies 451 00:23:15,970 --> 00:23:18,020 we've yet to master today. 452 00:23:18,020 --> 00:23:22,900 For example, anti-gravity, nuclear propulsion in deep space, 453 00:23:22,900 --> 00:23:26,470 wormholes allowing us to pass into parallel universes, 454 00:23:26,470 --> 00:23:30,060 negative energy, and magnetohydrodynamics. 455 00:23:30,060 --> 00:23:32,984 It wasn't down to chance that this cutting edge research 456 00:23:32,984 --> 00:23:35,563 was carried out by Bigelow Aerospace. 457 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:40,440 In 1995, even before founding his company, 458 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:43,250 Robert Bigelow had created the National Institute 459 00:23:43,250 --> 00:23:46,740 for Discovery Science with the aim of shedding light 460 00:23:46,740 --> 00:23:51,360 on a number of scientific mysteries, including UFOs. 461 00:23:51,360 --> 00:23:54,060 He invested millions from his private fortune. 462 00:23:54,060 --> 00:23:55,840 It's simple to the experts: 463 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:58,920 Robert Bigelow is a national hero. 464 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:00,470 - Robert Bigelow has spent more money 465 00:24:00,470 --> 00:24:04,120 than any other individual in the world, his private money, 466 00:24:04,120 --> 00:24:05,760 to fund UFO research. 467 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,410 So he's actually a hero within the UFO community, 468 00:24:08,410 --> 00:24:09,750 in my opinion. 469 00:24:09,750 --> 00:24:13,550 And he's a stellar guy and he runs the Bigelow Aerospace 470 00:24:13,550 --> 00:24:14,910 out in Las Vegas, 471 00:24:14,910 --> 00:24:19,180 which builds inflatable habitats for space, right? 472 00:24:19,180 --> 00:24:23,160 So I think I'm happy to hear him being successful 473 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:26,029 in his work with NASA and his work with his space program. 474 00:24:26,029 --> 00:24:28,710 I thank him for the time we spent together. 475 00:24:28,710 --> 00:24:31,050 And I think it's all leading us in the right direction 476 00:24:31,050 --> 00:24:32,080 in terms of disclosure. 477 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:33,280 So I'm excited about it. 478 00:24:34,130 --> 00:24:37,010 - [Narrator] Over the years, serious unimpeachable figures 479 00:24:37,010 --> 00:24:40,510 have worked with Bigelow: Dr. John B. Alexander, 480 00:24:40,510 --> 00:24:44,410 the pillar of the military research lab at Los Alamos, 481 00:24:44,410 --> 00:24:48,070 and Edgar D. Mitchell, the sixth man to walk on the moon. 482 00:24:48,070 --> 00:24:51,770 And after years of research, their verdict is unequivocal. 483 00:24:51,770 --> 00:24:53,610 - [Edgar] I happen to be privileged enough 484 00:24:53,610 --> 00:24:56,943 to be in on the fact 485 00:24:56,943 --> 00:24:59,760 that we have been visited on this planet, 486 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:01,930 and the UFO phenomenon is real, 487 00:25:01,930 --> 00:25:03,740 although it's been covered up by our government 488 00:25:03,740 --> 00:25:05,390 for quite a long time. 489 00:25:05,390 --> 00:25:07,660 - [Interviewer] Whoa! Hang on a minute! 490 00:25:07,660 --> 00:25:08,560 Well, this is big. 491 00:25:10,130 --> 00:25:14,240 So, whoa, all of this is quite a shock to me. 492 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:15,510 - [Edgar] Well, I'm sorry. 493 00:25:15,510 --> 00:25:17,030 Have you not been reading the papers recently, 494 00:25:17,030 --> 00:25:19,520 it's starting to open up quite a bit. 495 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,230 - [Interviewer] So you're telling me, (chuckling) 496 00:25:22,230 --> 00:25:24,040 well, there's a lot of information to take on board. 497 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:25,030 Hang on a minute. 498 00:25:25,030 --> 00:25:29,100 I mean, listen, I've heard like, you know, crazy UFO nuts 499 00:25:29,100 --> 00:25:30,610 tell me this kind of thing before. 500 00:25:30,610 --> 00:25:33,610 I've never had Dr. Ed Mitchell, 501 00:25:33,610 --> 00:25:36,450 you know, the sixth man to walk on the moon, 502 00:25:36,450 --> 00:25:39,219 a respected scientist in his own right 503 00:25:39,219 --> 00:25:42,790 announce to me that we've been visited 504 00:25:42,790 --> 00:25:45,750 by aliens from other planets 505 00:25:45,750 --> 00:25:47,750 and that they definitely are out there, 506 00:25:47,750 --> 00:25:49,320 there's no debating it. 507 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:50,153 - [Edgar] Well, that's your first time 508 00:25:50,153 --> 00:25:50,986 you've ever talked to me 509 00:25:50,986 --> 00:25:53,332 or I'd have told you about it before. 510 00:25:53,332 --> 00:25:56,665 (interviewer chuckling) 511 00:26:00,157 --> 00:26:01,490 - [Narrator] And for Edgar Mitchell, 512 00:26:01,490 --> 00:26:03,450 along with many other specialists, 513 00:26:03,450 --> 00:26:06,350 the nuclear industry has a close link with the phenomenon. 514 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:10,090 - [Interpreter] Nuclear nuclear testing 515 00:26:10,090 --> 00:26:14,060 was a very scary thing, because 540 nuclear 516 00:26:14,060 --> 00:26:18,300 or thermonuclear bombs have been exploded in the atmosphere, 517 00:26:18,300 --> 00:26:19,834 which is a lot. 518 00:26:19,834 --> 00:26:24,200 And that corresponds mainly to the period 1960 to '61, 519 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,160 when there was one explosion every three days 520 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,127 carried out by the Americans or the Soviets. 521 00:26:29,127 --> 00:26:31,877 (dramatic music) 522 00:26:33,747 --> 00:26:36,580 (explosion booms) 523 00:26:39,290 --> 00:26:41,433 - [Commentator] This is atomic energy. 524 00:26:43,500 --> 00:26:46,040 - [Interpreter] In 1949, there were already clues 525 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,480 as to why these surprising phenomena were reported 526 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,943 in certain geographical areas. 527 00:26:53,510 --> 00:26:57,343 Nuclear sites in particular were irregularly flown over. 528 00:26:58,300 --> 00:27:00,090 For two top secret commissions, 529 00:27:00,090 --> 00:27:02,760 since disclosed to the public, 530 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,650 Edward Teller, the scientific advisor to the White House, 531 00:27:05,650 --> 00:27:07,360 was a participant. 532 00:27:07,360 --> 00:27:09,120 He was the father of the hydrogen bomb. 533 00:27:09,120 --> 00:27:13,440 He claimed that UFO's had flown over several nucleus sites, 534 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,270 notably Oak Ridge, where plutonium was manufactured. 535 00:27:16,270 --> 00:27:19,160 A missile test range White Sands, 536 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,870 Roswell were a nuclear bombers were once based, 537 00:27:21,870 --> 00:27:23,480 basically a whole host of things 538 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,163 pointing to UFO's flying over these places. 539 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:31,270 - For example, I learned that a number of our missile bases 540 00:27:32,410 --> 00:27:35,390 in the Midwest, Dakotas, up that way, 541 00:27:35,390 --> 00:27:38,040 that they had been shut down. 542 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:42,710 They would come out at night, almost always at nighttime, 543 00:27:42,710 --> 00:27:46,170 and they would look up and see these objects in the air, 544 00:27:46,170 --> 00:27:48,590 and they shut off all the communications 545 00:27:48,590 --> 00:27:49,910 in the missile site. 546 00:27:49,910 --> 00:27:53,573 It didn't happen once, it happens quite a few times. 547 00:27:54,410 --> 00:27:56,150 - [Narrator] One of the most disturbing cases 548 00:27:56,150 --> 00:28:01,000 was in 1967, over Malmstrom air force base in Montana. 549 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,620 We met with one of the last surviving eye witnesses 550 00:28:03,620 --> 00:28:04,670 of the events. 551 00:28:04,670 --> 00:28:07,790 Like many others, he remained silent for 30 years 552 00:28:07,790 --> 00:28:10,290 before the case was finally divulged. 553 00:28:10,290 --> 00:28:12,620 Lieutenant Robert Salas was in charge of launching 554 00:28:12,620 --> 00:28:14,420 intercontinental ballistic missiles. 555 00:28:15,470 --> 00:28:19,280 - It was a underground facility, about 60 feet underground. 556 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:21,473 My commander's name was Fred Meiwald. 557 00:28:23,530 --> 00:28:28,530 We were taking turns staying on alert status. 558 00:28:29,170 --> 00:28:33,250 And sometime in the evening, I get a phone call 559 00:28:33,250 --> 00:28:37,363 from my top side guard, we had six guards upstairs, 560 00:28:38,790 --> 00:28:41,650 and he said, they'd been seeing strange lights in the sky 561 00:28:41,650 --> 00:28:46,650 flying very fast, stopping in mid air and reversing course. 562 00:28:48,350 --> 00:28:50,460 He couldn't hear any engine noise, 563 00:28:50,460 --> 00:28:53,053 strictly lights in the sky, 564 00:28:54,260 --> 00:28:55,790 but they were very strange lights. 565 00:28:55,790 --> 00:28:57,570 He didn't think they were airplanes. 566 00:28:57,570 --> 00:29:00,660 He was screaming into the phone, babbling, 567 00:29:00,660 --> 00:29:04,710 telling me that there was some orange reddish light 568 00:29:04,710 --> 00:29:06,723 hovering above the front gate. 569 00:29:07,820 --> 00:29:11,780 And he had all the guards out there with their weapons 570 00:29:11,780 --> 00:29:16,170 and asked me what he should do. 571 00:29:16,170 --> 00:29:19,513 And of course, I was shocked by this report. 572 00:29:20,670 --> 00:29:22,073 He was obviously frightened. 573 00:29:24,170 --> 00:29:27,930 I told him, as I recall, "Just make sure nothing comes in 574 00:29:27,930 --> 00:29:32,670 the fenced area, use whatever force necessary." 575 00:29:32,670 --> 00:29:35,170 And then he hung up. He said, "I had to go, 576 00:29:35,170 --> 00:29:38,690 because one of his guards was injured." 577 00:29:38,690 --> 00:29:40,960 I went to wake up my commander. 578 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,823 And as I was telling him about the phone calls, 579 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:46,650 our missiles shut down. 580 00:29:46,650 --> 00:29:49,630 We had a 10 missiles under our control 581 00:29:49,630 --> 00:29:54,630 and all 10 of them, what we call no-go, 582 00:29:54,980 --> 00:29:57,430 they couldn't be launched, they couldn't be used. 583 00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:01,360 So that's basically the story. 584 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,720 Of course, we reported to a command post. 585 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:06,330 - Some would go even further, 586 00:30:06,330 --> 00:30:08,430 not hesitating to speak officially 587 00:30:08,430 --> 00:30:11,470 about extraterrestrial encounters on their missions. 588 00:30:11,470 --> 00:30:13,070 For three years, Paul Hellyer 589 00:30:13,070 --> 00:30:15,860 was Canada's national defense minister. 590 00:30:15,860 --> 00:30:20,860 - During the Cold War, 1961, there were about 50 UFO's 591 00:30:20,910 --> 00:30:25,910 in formation, flying south from Russia across Europe. 592 00:30:26,570 --> 00:30:30,380 And the Supreme Allied Commander was very concerned 593 00:30:31,500 --> 00:30:33,870 and about ready to press the panic button, 594 00:30:33,870 --> 00:30:36,940 when they turned around and went back over the North Pole. 595 00:30:36,940 --> 00:30:40,340 So they decided to do an investigation, 596 00:30:40,340 --> 00:30:43,340 and they investigated for three years 597 00:30:43,340 --> 00:30:47,600 and they decided with absolute certainty 598 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:51,920 that four species, four different species, at least, 599 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:56,400 had been visiting this planet for thousands of years. 600 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,837 So, we have a long history of UFO's, 601 00:30:58,837 --> 00:31:01,660 and of course, there's been a lot more activity 602 00:31:01,660 --> 00:31:06,660 on the last few decades, since we invented the atomic bomb. 603 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:11,070 And they're very concerned about that 604 00:31:11,070 --> 00:31:14,620 and the fact that we might use it again, 605 00:31:14,620 --> 00:31:18,030 because the whole cosmos is a unity 606 00:31:18,030 --> 00:31:21,590 and it affects not just us, but other people in the cosmos. 607 00:31:21,590 --> 00:31:24,410 They're very much afraid that we might be stupid enough 608 00:31:24,410 --> 00:31:27,390 to start using atomic weapons again. 609 00:31:27,390 --> 00:31:30,610 And this would be very bad for us and for them as well. 610 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,050 - [Interpreter] He says it clearly: aliens exist. 611 00:31:35,070 --> 00:31:37,013 They came here to stop us, et cetera. 612 00:31:37,013 --> 00:31:38,360 I'm not at that stage. 613 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:42,940 I simply say there a phenomenon, controlled objects, 614 00:31:42,940 --> 00:31:46,433 which confront us with a certain number of questions. 615 00:31:46,433 --> 00:31:47,773 Is that a signal? 616 00:31:48,950 --> 00:31:51,610 I'm simply saying that on a scientific level, 617 00:31:51,610 --> 00:31:53,790 to put things into perspective, 618 00:31:53,790 --> 00:31:56,370 our satellites are capable of detecting explosions 619 00:31:56,370 --> 00:31:58,973 of supernovas dozens of light years away. 620 00:32:04,110 --> 00:32:07,840 So why couldn't a civilization more advanced than ours 621 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:11,253 have the capacity to detect nuclear explosions on Earth? 622 00:32:13,620 --> 00:32:15,800 Because a nuclear explosion has all the elements 623 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:17,740 of the electromagnetic spectrum 624 00:32:20,020 --> 00:32:22,520 and enters the field of the microwave spectrum 625 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:25,653 via ultraviolets and infrareds. 626 00:32:27,540 --> 00:32:29,693 Consequently, this signal is an artificial one 627 00:32:29,693 --> 00:32:32,393 that could be detected a long, long way away. 628 00:32:36,637 --> 00:32:39,430 And this could explain why there have been 629 00:32:39,430 --> 00:32:43,610 such a huge number of sightings over nuclear sites. 630 00:32:43,610 --> 00:32:44,823 The question remains. 631 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:49,120 - [Narrator] In France, Michael Vaillant, 632 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:52,710 an expert data consultant for GEIPAN for more than 12 years, 633 00:32:52,710 --> 00:32:55,110 clearly links the sightings of UFO's 634 00:32:55,110 --> 00:32:57,640 and civil and military facilities in a study 635 00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,590 he published under the aegis of the University of Toulouse. 636 00:33:04,350 --> 00:33:05,183 - [Interpreter] When we worked 637 00:33:05,183 --> 00:33:07,540 with the Toulouse mathematics laboratory, 638 00:33:07,540 --> 00:33:09,973 we did a study in 2015, 639 00:33:11,210 --> 00:33:14,000 which showed there was a large statistical significance 640 00:33:15,101 --> 00:33:17,810 in the breakdown of unexplained aerial phenomena data 641 00:33:17,810 --> 00:33:19,233 and nuclear facilities. 642 00:33:21,490 --> 00:33:23,253 But also polluted sites. 643 00:33:25,030 --> 00:33:26,880 So there are questions to be asked 644 00:33:27,750 --> 00:33:31,543 about the kind of intelligence observing these places, 645 00:33:33,430 --> 00:33:36,440 and why intelligent extraterrestrials 646 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,393 are watching our nuclear and polluted sites. 647 00:33:42,830 --> 00:33:46,093 I think it's pretty weird but pretty tasty at the same time. 648 00:33:48,870 --> 00:33:50,580 - [Narrator] Whether it's to monitor humans 649 00:33:50,580 --> 00:33:53,810 playing with nuclear fire or for some other reason, 650 00:33:53,810 --> 00:33:57,070 the number of politicians, scientists, and engineers 651 00:33:57,070 --> 00:34:00,080 who dare to speak out about non-human intelligence 652 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:01,283 is clearly growing. 653 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,530 - My personal, I can't speak on behalf of the government, 654 00:34:04,530 --> 00:34:06,940 obviously, I'm not in the U.S. government anymore, 655 00:34:06,940 --> 00:34:10,180 my personal belief is that there's very compelling evidence 656 00:34:10,180 --> 00:34:14,070 that we may not be alone. 657 00:34:14,070 --> 00:34:14,903 Whatever that means. 658 00:34:14,903 --> 00:34:17,030 - The reason we had so much secrecy 659 00:34:17,030 --> 00:34:20,440 is people acknowledged they couldn't understand 660 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:21,860 what it was all about. 661 00:34:21,860 --> 00:34:25,090 And rather than make people afraid, 662 00:34:25,090 --> 00:34:27,760 they just ignored it, hoping it would go away. 663 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:29,860 But it hasn't gone away. 664 00:34:29,860 --> 00:34:32,720 And now they're being forced to do something about it, 665 00:34:32,720 --> 00:34:35,020 because there are so many occurrences now, 666 00:34:35,020 --> 00:34:37,290 because people who are flying airplanes 667 00:34:37,290 --> 00:34:41,053 are no longer afraid of telling people what they saw. 668 00:34:43,073 --> 00:34:45,370 - [Interpreter 1] Those who take it most seriously today, 669 00:34:45,370 --> 00:34:49,640 are the scientists, because they're saying aliens do exist. 670 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:52,870 And asking where they're from, what makes them tick. 671 00:34:52,870 --> 00:34:54,270 And that's very interesting. 672 00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:56,630 - [Interpreter 2] It's only imaginable 673 00:34:56,630 --> 00:34:59,230 through the idea of technology 674 00:34:59,230 --> 00:35:01,153 that's far more advanced than ours. 675 00:35:02,568 --> 00:35:04,130 And as we're not able to do it, 676 00:35:04,130 --> 00:35:07,603 then it must come from elsewhere, from space. 677 00:35:10,580 --> 00:35:12,950 - [Narrator] Intelligent life coming from space, 678 00:35:12,950 --> 00:35:16,020 what made the scientific community snicker for decades 679 00:35:16,020 --> 00:35:19,570 has now become a true subject, and for good reason: 680 00:35:19,570 --> 00:35:23,280 in just 25 years, astronomers have discovered the existence 681 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:27,440 of 4,000 exoplanets, some of which are similar to Earth 682 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,480 and could therefore be home to forms of intelligent life. 683 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:33,513 And why not a civilization more advanced than ours? 684 00:35:34,510 --> 00:35:37,093 (solemn music) 685 00:35:42,790 --> 00:35:45,470 Avi Loeb is the chair of the astrophysics department 686 00:35:45,470 --> 00:35:47,070 at Harvard university. 687 00:35:47,070 --> 00:35:50,160 He's also head of two institutes working on mathematics 688 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:53,180 and black holes with numerous eminent physicists, 689 00:35:53,180 --> 00:35:56,010 astronomers and mathematicians as their members, 690 00:35:56,010 --> 00:35:59,020 which goes to show that he's one of the most serious 691 00:35:59,020 --> 00:36:02,610 and respected researchers in his field in the world. 692 00:36:02,610 --> 00:36:03,980 He and his teams has studied 693 00:36:03,980 --> 00:36:05,700 one of the most surprising phenomenon 694 00:36:05,700 --> 00:36:07,900 ever observed in our solar system: 695 00:36:07,900 --> 00:36:11,000 the arrival of an unidentified interstellar object 696 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:12,700 with very unique properties. 697 00:36:12,700 --> 00:36:16,770 Its name Oumuamua, which in Hawaiian means messenger. 698 00:36:16,770 --> 00:36:20,930 - Oumuamua was discovered on October 19th, 2017. 699 00:36:20,930 --> 00:36:24,120 It was the very first object that we identified 700 00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,230 near the Earth that originated 701 00:36:26,230 --> 00:36:28,860 from outside the solar system. 702 00:36:28,860 --> 00:36:31,980 And it was clear that it's unbound to the Sun, 703 00:36:31,980 --> 00:36:35,180 because it moves too fast near the Earth. 704 00:36:35,180 --> 00:36:36,750 At first, the astronomers thought 705 00:36:36,750 --> 00:36:41,750 that it's a rock, an asteroid, or perhaps a comet. 706 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,440 So it was monitored only for one week. 707 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,410 And then it was realized 708 00:36:46,410 --> 00:36:48,770 that it has some strange properties. 709 00:36:48,770 --> 00:36:52,660 For one thing, as it spun around every eight hours, 710 00:36:52,660 --> 00:36:55,840 it changed its brightness by a factor of 10. 711 00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:59,240 And that implies that its area on the sky 712 00:36:59,240 --> 00:37:01,530 changes by a factor of 10, 713 00:37:01,530 --> 00:37:04,580 because all we see is reflected sunlight. 714 00:37:04,580 --> 00:37:09,160 And what it implies is that it's at least 10 times longer 715 00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:12,480 than it is wide, much more extreme in shape 716 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:14,400 than any other object that we have seen 717 00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,393 from within the solar system before. 718 00:37:17,700 --> 00:37:20,920 And then astronomers looked at it a little more 719 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:22,360 the following month, 720 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:25,240 but they didn't much pay attention to it. 721 00:37:25,240 --> 00:37:28,873 And by January it was too faint for us to look at. 722 00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:33,250 But the data that was taken earlier was analyzed, 723 00:37:33,250 --> 00:37:36,210 and then it was realized that in fact Oumuamua 724 00:37:36,210 --> 00:37:38,290 deviated from an orbit 725 00:37:38,290 --> 00:37:41,360 that is shaped just by the Sun's gravity. 726 00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:45,833 And there was an extra force pushing it away from the Sun. 727 00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:51,100 This could have been the result of outgassing 728 00:37:51,100 --> 00:37:53,250 the way we see in comets, 729 00:37:53,250 --> 00:37:58,250 where water ice on the surface of the comet evaporates 730 00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:00,690 due to the illumination by sunlight. 731 00:38:00,690 --> 00:38:03,820 But in the case of Oumuamua, we didn't see any evidence 732 00:38:03,820 --> 00:38:05,910 for a cometary tail. 733 00:38:05,910 --> 00:38:09,310 There was no gas that was traced around it. 734 00:38:09,310 --> 00:38:11,730 And there were very tight limits derived 735 00:38:11,730 --> 00:38:15,440 by the Spitzer space telescope on carbon based molecules 736 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:17,540 in the vicinity of this object. 737 00:38:17,540 --> 00:38:21,723 And so it was very puzzling, what gives it this extra push? 738 00:38:23,090 --> 00:38:27,330 And so in a paper that we wrote, we suggested 739 00:38:27,330 --> 00:38:31,593 that perhaps the push is given by sunlight, 740 00:38:32,530 --> 00:38:36,420 and in order for sunlight, as it off the object, 741 00:38:36,420 --> 00:38:40,773 to give it enough push, the object needs to be very thin, 742 00:38:41,610 --> 00:38:45,250 less than a millimeter in thickness, similar to a sail 743 00:38:45,250 --> 00:38:48,393 that is being pushed by wind on a sailboat. 744 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:52,630 And in fact, our civilization is currently developing 745 00:38:52,630 --> 00:38:54,470 the technology of flight sales, 746 00:38:54,470 --> 00:38:58,030 where a push on a lightweight sail with light 747 00:38:58,910 --> 00:39:03,380 and as a result, as the light bounces off the sail, 748 00:39:03,380 --> 00:39:08,380 it gives it a push that can propel it to very high speeds, 749 00:39:09,340 --> 00:39:11,900 up to the speed of light potentially. 750 00:39:11,900 --> 00:39:16,280 And so it's possible, we said, that this is some device 751 00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:22,330 that was sent, that was made artificially 752 00:39:22,330 --> 00:39:24,523 that was sent by an alien civilization. 753 00:39:26,290 --> 00:39:30,760 And we just mentioned that as a possibility, 754 00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:35,330 simply because the alternative, a comet, 755 00:39:35,330 --> 00:39:37,773 seem to be inconsistent with the data. 756 00:39:39,780 --> 00:39:41,700 - [Narrator] Although Avi Loeb's solar sail 757 00:39:41,700 --> 00:39:44,730 is still an exotic yet possible hypothesis, 758 00:39:44,730 --> 00:39:46,410 the technologies that could explain 759 00:39:46,410 --> 00:39:48,990 the unparalleled performances of such objects 760 00:39:48,990 --> 00:39:51,520 are inspiring scientists, the military, 761 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:53,530 and private companies. 762 00:39:53,530 --> 00:39:56,080 So are these research programs smoke screens 763 00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:59,333 for a fiercely competitive race for tomorrow's technology? 764 00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:03,460 - [Interpreter] The technology used by these objects, 765 00:40:03,460 --> 00:40:06,423 apparently in the case, is one that we don't master, 766 00:40:07,460 --> 00:40:09,840 because clearly, if we could obtain the technology 767 00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:13,480 that enables a UFO to go from zero speed 768 00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:15,680 to staggering speeds, 769 00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:19,120 whilst performing complicated maneuvers, 770 00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:20,820 then everyone would be interested. 771 00:40:22,510 --> 00:40:23,910 Because it would change the fighter plane 772 00:40:23,910 --> 00:40:24,860 among other things. 773 00:40:26,263 --> 00:40:28,060 After all, if we discovered it, 774 00:40:28,060 --> 00:40:30,540 we could use it to defend France. 775 00:40:30,540 --> 00:40:32,570 So the two things go hand in hand: 776 00:40:32,570 --> 00:40:34,790 it's great to understand the phenomenon 777 00:40:34,790 --> 00:40:36,503 and then, why not benefit from it? 778 00:40:38,220 --> 00:40:39,760 - [Narrator] So was the goal of Bigelow 779 00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,880 and the famous American $22 million project 780 00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,060 to discover the technology of these phenomena, 781 00:40:45,060 --> 00:40:47,010 so as to benefit from them? 782 00:40:47,010 --> 00:40:49,060 The Senator at the origin of the program 783 00:40:49,060 --> 00:40:50,450 seems to confirm it. 784 00:40:50,450 --> 00:40:52,710 - Do I believe that technologically 785 00:40:52,710 --> 00:40:55,610 the program we've spent money on has been helpful? 786 00:40:55,610 --> 00:40:56,663 The answer is yes. 787 00:40:57,940 --> 00:40:59,040 Do we have any answers? 788 00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:01,780 Yes, we have answers, but not too many. 789 00:41:01,780 --> 00:41:03,840 I'm interested in science. 790 00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:07,160 I believe we have to know what causes these, 791 00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,100 where do they come from. 792 00:41:09,100 --> 00:41:13,270 And I think we also have to do it to be competitive. 793 00:41:13,270 --> 00:41:17,050 Other countries, including France, have done work, 794 00:41:17,050 --> 00:41:18,770 trying to figure this out. 795 00:41:18,770 --> 00:41:23,770 And I'm confident China has, I'm confident that Russia 796 00:41:23,900 --> 00:41:26,320 which is run by former head of the KGB, 797 00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:28,100 I'm sure they're doing work on it. 798 00:41:28,100 --> 00:41:30,490 That's why I think that we need to do work, 799 00:41:30,490 --> 00:41:31,970 we as the United States. 800 00:41:31,970 --> 00:41:33,740 - [Narrator] In the race the Americans seem 801 00:41:33,740 --> 00:41:35,640 to have gotten off to a good start. 802 00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:38,560 Looking again at the list of Bigelow's fields of study, 803 00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:41,400 many of them are on things we're yet to master, 804 00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:44,240 but their applications would be revolutionary. 805 00:41:44,240 --> 00:41:47,060 Among the most sensitive: anti-gravity, 806 00:41:47,060 --> 00:41:48,840 or the ability to free ourselves 807 00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:52,360 from the laws of Newtonian physics, and notably weight, 808 00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:55,240 so as to fly an object with no physical resistance 809 00:41:55,240 --> 00:41:57,180 and nothing pulling it downwards. 810 00:41:57,180 --> 00:42:00,020 These futuristic technologies require the designing 811 00:42:00,020 --> 00:42:02,840 of new materials called metamaterials. 812 00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,520 Recently, a private company signed a contract 813 00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:07,810 with the U.S. armed forces for the research 814 00:42:07,810 --> 00:42:09,700 and development of these technologies. 815 00:42:09,700 --> 00:42:13,610 In June, 2018, dr. Hal Puthoff, co-founder of the company 816 00:42:13,610 --> 00:42:15,160 and a former AATIP member 817 00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:17,416 made some surprising comments on the subject. 818 00:42:17,416 --> 00:42:21,310 - It was a multilayered bismuth and magnesium sample, 819 00:42:21,310 --> 00:42:24,240 bismuth layers of less than a human hair, 820 00:42:24,240 --> 00:42:28,250 magnesium samples, about 10 times the size of human hair, 821 00:42:28,250 --> 00:42:31,630 supposedly picked up in the crash retrieval 822 00:42:31,630 --> 00:42:34,003 of an advanced aerospace vehicle. 823 00:42:35,710 --> 00:42:37,900 It looks like it's been in the crash. 824 00:42:37,900 --> 00:42:40,460 - [Narrator] In Las Vegas in June, 2018, 825 00:42:40,460 --> 00:42:42,270 physicist Hal Puthoff implied 826 00:42:42,270 --> 00:42:44,710 that this strange metamaterial object 827 00:42:44,710 --> 00:42:48,450 came from a crashed UFO, but he's not certain. 828 00:42:48,450 --> 00:42:50,720 Puthoff and his colleague, Dr. Eric Davis, 829 00:42:50,720 --> 00:42:53,850 are on the verge of identifying a number of small parts, 830 00:42:53,850 --> 00:42:57,093 which appear to be beyond man's fabrication capacities. 831 00:42:57,930 --> 00:43:01,270 This sample was created with layers finer than microns 832 00:43:01,270 --> 00:43:03,340 using a process unknown on earth, 833 00:43:03,340 --> 00:43:05,533 and with an aim we can only guess at. 834 00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:08,910 - Nowhere could we find any evidence 835 00:43:08,910 --> 00:43:10,860 that anybody ever made one of these. 836 00:43:10,860 --> 00:43:14,030 When we talked to people who, in the materials field, 837 00:43:14,030 --> 00:43:17,460 who should know, they said, "We don't know why anybody 838 00:43:17,460 --> 00:43:19,400 would want to make anything like this." 839 00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:20,390 - [Narrator] So it's no longer 840 00:43:20,390 --> 00:43:23,230 just a matter of understanding the origin of UFO's, 841 00:43:23,230 --> 00:43:25,160 but of benefiting from them. 842 00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:28,210 These metamaterials might have exceptional properties 843 00:43:28,210 --> 00:43:30,720 which could prove useful and profitable. 844 00:43:30,720 --> 00:43:32,120 - They definitely have metamaterials. 845 00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:33,720 I've seen the photographs of it. 846 00:43:33,720 --> 00:43:35,605 I've talked to them about that. 847 00:43:35,605 --> 00:43:37,730 They're trying to figure out how they operate. 848 00:43:37,730 --> 00:43:40,680 It appears that if you put a frequency into these materials, 849 00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:42,440 they actually can levitate. 850 00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:44,140 I mean, that's what I'm being told. 851 00:43:44,140 --> 00:43:46,440 I haven't seen it, I don't know the details behind it, 852 00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:47,750 but they're trying to understand 853 00:43:47,750 --> 00:43:49,410 exactly how these are created, 854 00:43:49,410 --> 00:43:53,230 it's a bismuth kind of a material 855 00:43:53,230 --> 00:43:57,300 and it's stratified, so it's new stuff to us 856 00:43:57,300 --> 00:43:59,500 and we're trying to figure out how it works. 857 00:44:01,990 --> 00:44:03,990 - [Narrator] This know-how could also help us solve 858 00:44:03,990 --> 00:44:08,060 our ecological problems and ward off global warming. 859 00:44:08,060 --> 00:44:11,150 - Energy and propulsion systems are two things right away, 860 00:44:11,150 --> 00:44:14,650 because there seems to be this sort of tantalizing promise 861 00:44:14,650 --> 00:44:19,650 of limitless free environmentally impact-free energy 862 00:44:19,870 --> 00:44:21,380 that we could tap into, 863 00:44:21,380 --> 00:44:23,330 whether it's anti-gravity 864 00:44:23,330 --> 00:44:26,980 or something beyond even photonic propulsion, 865 00:44:26,980 --> 00:44:30,090 teleportation, or something of that nature, 866 00:44:30,090 --> 00:44:33,010 such that we could sort of master the physical universe 867 00:44:33,010 --> 00:44:35,540 in ways that we can't even dream so far, 868 00:44:35,540 --> 00:44:38,160 which would move us well past fossil fuels 869 00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:40,510 and solar energy and nuclear power 870 00:44:40,510 --> 00:44:43,610 to limitless abundant energy for all 871 00:44:43,610 --> 00:44:47,193 that can do things so far beyond what we're able to do now. 872 00:44:48,610 --> 00:44:50,390 - [Narrator] Mastering new technologies, 873 00:44:50,390 --> 00:44:52,890 bringing radical ecological solutions, 874 00:44:52,890 --> 00:44:55,200 genuine issues for all governments 875 00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:57,923 but the stakes are also high for humankind. 876 00:44:58,830 --> 00:45:01,673 - The fundamental question is, are we alone? 877 00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:07,600 And the second question, if we find that we are not alone, 878 00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:10,443 are we the smartest kids on the block? 879 00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:12,840 There might be civilizations 880 00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:15,200 that are far more advanced than we are 881 00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:16,730 and they have the technologies 882 00:45:16,730 --> 00:45:18,870 that we could potentially develop, 883 00:45:18,870 --> 00:45:21,090 but over a very long time. 884 00:45:21,090 --> 00:45:23,340 And when we establish contact 885 00:45:23,340 --> 00:45:26,563 or see evidence for those civilizations, 886 00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:29,053 the evidence we shock us. 887 00:45:30,137 --> 00:45:33,980 It would just be like a caveman looking at the cell phone 888 00:45:33,980 --> 00:45:37,140 and trying to interpret it as a piece of fraud. 889 00:45:37,140 --> 00:45:40,070 A very advanced technological civilization 890 00:45:40,070 --> 00:45:42,670 is a good approximation to God. 891 00:45:42,670 --> 00:45:45,790 It can do things that we cannot imagine. 892 00:45:45,790 --> 00:45:49,823 And so we could learn a lot from such an encounter. 893 00:45:50,980 --> 00:45:54,180 We can also develop a sense of modesty, 894 00:45:54,180 --> 00:45:59,180 because right now we think that we are the smartest. 895 00:46:00,670 --> 00:46:03,840 And in fact, along human history, we thought 896 00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:07,490 that we are at the center of the physical universe, 897 00:46:07,490 --> 00:46:10,450 that the sun revolves around the earth. 898 00:46:10,450 --> 00:46:14,650 And eventually we realized that we are not at the center 899 00:46:14,650 --> 00:46:16,400 of the physical universe. 900 00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:17,810 The Earth moves around the sun 901 00:46:17,810 --> 00:46:20,700 and the sun moves around the center of the Milky Way galaxy 902 00:46:20,700 --> 00:46:23,220 and the Milky Way galaxy is moving in some random direction 903 00:46:23,220 --> 00:46:26,340 in a universe that is full of such galaxies. 904 00:46:26,340 --> 00:46:29,380 So we have no special position in the universe. 905 00:46:29,380 --> 00:46:33,000 Nevertheless, many scientists still prefer to believe 906 00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:35,670 that we are at the center of the biological universe, 907 00:46:35,670 --> 00:46:39,470 the living universe, that life is unique to Earth. 908 00:46:39,470 --> 00:46:43,970 And in particular, intelligent life is unique to Earth. 909 00:46:43,970 --> 00:46:48,150 And I think one way by which we can become modest 910 00:46:48,150 --> 00:46:52,703 is by collecting evidence about what is going on out there. 911 00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:57,110 - [Narrator] If such a reality exists, 912 00:46:57,110 --> 00:46:59,260 will we be able to grasp it correctly 913 00:46:59,260 --> 00:47:01,060 and really enter into contact 914 00:47:01,060 --> 00:47:03,346 with intelligent life from elsewhere? 915 00:47:03,346 --> 00:47:05,820 Michael Vaillant has worked on the different waves 916 00:47:05,820 --> 00:47:07,886 of past UFO sightings. 917 00:47:07,886 --> 00:47:10,810 - [Interpreter 1] Waves of sightings haven't really been 918 00:47:10,810 --> 00:47:13,083 that numerous in the history of mankind. 919 00:47:14,530 --> 00:47:17,330 They pretty much started after World War II. 920 00:47:17,330 --> 00:47:19,850 They've tended to occur in large regions of the earth, 921 00:47:19,850 --> 00:47:22,333 like the United States and Europe. 922 00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:27,480 And over a few days, hundreds of people report sightings 923 00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:28,843 of unexplained phenomenon. 924 00:47:31,550 --> 00:47:35,200 When usually in France, for example, 925 00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:37,823 you just get one sighting every two days or so. 926 00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:42,593 That's already a lot, but during a wave, it skyrockets. 927 00:47:44,819 --> 00:47:48,220 Jacques Vallee and other scientists have posited 928 00:47:48,220 --> 00:47:50,303 what they call control theory. 929 00:47:52,970 --> 00:47:54,900 Maybe since external intelligence 930 00:47:54,900 --> 00:47:56,733 could be behind these waves, 931 00:47:57,760 --> 00:47:59,563 controlling how they're organized, 932 00:48:02,620 --> 00:48:05,190 and behind this control theory 933 00:48:05,190 --> 00:48:06,903 is the notion of learning theory, 934 00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:11,870 where the phenomenon teaches humans about their presence. 935 00:48:11,870 --> 00:48:14,783 There are what we call spaced in time learning methods, 936 00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:19,000 which allow you to undergo a kind of apprenticeship 937 00:48:19,860 --> 00:48:22,393 on an individual rather than a societal basis, 938 00:48:23,524 --> 00:48:26,950 during which you learn to save time and energy 939 00:48:26,950 --> 00:48:28,150 when learning something. 940 00:48:32,420 --> 00:48:34,530 For example, if I'm a lazy person 941 00:48:34,530 --> 00:48:36,143 who must learn a list of words, 942 00:48:38,475 --> 00:48:41,580 I want to save energy rather than senselessly repeating 943 00:48:41,580 --> 00:48:43,130 the list of words sequentially. 944 00:48:45,885 --> 00:48:49,250 So every day I'll space the time between learning sessions, 945 00:48:49,250 --> 00:48:51,810 and this will follow a law of power, 946 00:48:51,810 --> 00:48:54,260 a law measured on a human scale, 947 00:48:54,260 --> 00:48:56,260 and generally a lot of the power of two. 948 00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:03,263 This means that time will double with each learning session. 949 00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:09,023 One, two, four, eight, 16, 32, et cetera. 950 00:49:09,864 --> 00:49:13,533 And we observed this same law with waves of sightings. 951 00:49:16,950 --> 00:49:21,250 Only here these waves follow a law to the power of 2.04 952 00:49:21,250 --> 00:49:22,533 to be very precise. 953 00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:26,970 This precision is extremely important, 954 00:49:26,970 --> 00:49:30,010 because it allows to anticipate 955 00:49:30,010 --> 00:49:32,253 the date of the next wave of sightings. 956 00:49:36,460 --> 00:49:40,393 And next one, following a period of great inactivity today, 957 00:49:41,510 --> 00:49:44,790 should be in October, 2035. 958 00:49:44,790 --> 00:49:47,863 It's not tomorrow, but it isn't in the too distant future. 959 00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:54,170 - [Interpreter 2] This is an area 960 00:49:54,170 --> 00:49:56,529 that is very, very complicated 961 00:49:56,529 --> 00:49:58,660 and is rejected by many upholders 962 00:49:58,660 --> 00:50:01,033 of mathematical progress and rationalism. 963 00:50:04,020 --> 00:50:06,120 Will we have more surprises in the future? 964 00:50:07,580 --> 00:50:08,780 That's another question. 965 00:50:11,540 --> 00:50:12,440 - [Interpreter 1] If the U.S. government 966 00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:15,940 still has things to disclose, it should do so now, 967 00:50:15,940 --> 00:50:17,380 because I think people may be ready 968 00:50:17,380 --> 00:50:18,893 to receive this information. 969 00:50:20,350 --> 00:50:22,720 - I believe, without any question 970 00:50:22,720 --> 00:50:24,610 that research scientifically 971 00:50:24,610 --> 00:50:26,830 on these uninvited flying objects 972 00:50:26,830 --> 00:50:29,110 is really good for humanity, 973 00:50:29,110 --> 00:50:31,910 not only for the United States, but the world. 974 00:50:31,910 --> 00:50:35,530 I think if I had my druthers, what I would do 975 00:50:35,530 --> 00:50:38,020 is other countries who are doing work on this, 976 00:50:38,020 --> 00:50:41,160 let's meet together, let's share information, 977 00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:43,150 let the United States share with France, 978 00:50:43,150 --> 00:50:46,040 let United States share with China, Russia. 979 00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:50,050 We should, because it's an issue we don't understand, 980 00:50:50,050 --> 00:50:52,450 we should work together and make it more public 981 00:50:52,450 --> 00:50:55,730 and share it, it's important not only to our country, 982 00:50:55,730 --> 00:50:57,403 but all civilization. 983 00:50:59,270 --> 00:51:00,900 - In the next year, we are gonna have 984 00:51:00,900 --> 00:51:02,620 a fundamentally different conversation 985 00:51:02,620 --> 00:51:03,820 than we're having today. 986 00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:07,240 I think there's gonna be additional fidelity 987 00:51:08,630 --> 00:51:12,080 to a lot of the things that have come out recently, 988 00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:15,960 that are gonna help us have a better understanding 989 00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:18,291 of what it is we're actually seeing here. 990 00:51:18,291 --> 00:51:21,291 (audience applauds) 991 00:51:22,390 --> 00:51:23,830 - [Interpreter 1] It will certainly bring upheavals 992 00:51:23,830 --> 00:51:25,463 to our biggest societies. 993 00:51:27,780 --> 00:51:30,280 You'll ask a lot of questions of philosophies, 994 00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:33,823 religions, and even science. 995 00:51:35,290 --> 00:51:39,440 - [Interpreter 2] In 2035, if man's understanding 996 00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:41,003 of the subject is stable, 997 00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:44,633 we might even enter into contact, 998 00:51:46,810 --> 00:51:48,680 contact that takes into account 999 00:51:49,990 --> 00:51:54,990 the idea behind these waves and behind our apprenticeships, 1000 00:51:56,870 --> 00:51:58,540 which is to avoid at all costs 1001 00:51:58,540 --> 00:52:01,473 what we call cultural ethnocide, 1002 00:52:04,460 --> 00:52:07,540 meaning to prevent humans from being at a total loss 1003 00:52:07,540 --> 00:52:09,100 and in shock at the confirmation 1004 00:52:09,100 --> 00:52:12,693 of extra terrestrial phenomenon or intelligence. 1005 00:52:15,010 --> 00:52:17,890 But I think that in about 10 years time, 1006 00:52:17,890 --> 00:52:21,830 and almost certainly before, we'll have discovered life 1007 00:52:21,830 --> 00:52:22,943 in the solar system. 1008 00:52:24,550 --> 00:52:27,720 Not intelligent life, but life all the same. 1009 00:52:27,720 --> 00:52:31,730 And that alone would enable us to lay the foundations 1010 00:52:31,730 --> 00:52:34,560 of an intellectual edifice that will allow us 1011 00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:36,003 to explore further. 1012 00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:40,160 That's certainly true for scientists who dare to believe 1013 00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:44,390 that beyond simple life, intelligent life exists too. 1014 00:52:44,390 --> 00:52:46,410 This will help mentalities to progress 1015 00:52:46,410 --> 00:52:49,110 and eventually acceptance will become more mainstream. 1016 00:52:52,331 --> 00:52:56,240 - There are more Earth-like planets that are habitable 1017 00:52:56,240 --> 00:52:58,580 in the observable volume of the universe 1018 00:52:58,580 --> 00:53:02,960 than there are grains of sand on all beaches on earth. 1019 00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:04,580 To me, it sounds very reasonable 1020 00:53:05,470 --> 00:53:07,700 to search for other civilizations, 1021 00:53:07,700 --> 00:53:09,750 not necessarily here on Earth, 1022 00:53:09,750 --> 00:53:14,430 not necessarily in the solar system, but well beyond that, 1023 00:53:14,430 --> 00:53:19,120 and make it a central theme of future research, 1024 00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:22,170 because the consequences of finding evidence 1025 00:53:22,170 --> 00:53:24,723 for life out there would be tremendous. 1026 00:53:26,290 --> 00:53:27,900 It would change our conception 1027 00:53:27,900 --> 00:53:29,620 about our place in the universe. 1028 00:53:29,620 --> 00:53:34,200 It could teach us about advanced technologies 1029 00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:37,350 that we have never dreamt of developing, 1030 00:53:37,350 --> 00:53:42,080 and it can also provide us with an important lesson 1031 00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:46,020 about how to behave as a civilization to make us feel 1032 00:53:46,020 --> 00:53:50,630 as one team that is learning something together 1033 00:53:50,630 --> 00:53:53,070 from another team 1034 00:53:53,070 --> 00:53:55,703 that went through a similar process in there. 1035 00:53:58,833 --> 00:54:01,750 (light airy music) 79772

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