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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:13,088 --> 00:00:16,029 Porn now is a lot more mainstream. 2 00:00:20,887 --> 00:00:22,719 - Fuck, yeah. - Yes, yes, yes! 3 00:00:22,889 --> 00:00:25,677 It's allowed me to live a really great life. 4 00:00:25,892 --> 00:00:27,724 - Bam! - We're performers. 5 00:00:27,936 --> 00:00:31,645 Just like The Rock and Vin Diesel are action performers. 6 00:00:31,857 --> 00:00:35,057 She was beautiful, her scenes were hot, and she was a party girl. 7 00:00:37,988 --> 00:00:41,824 The stigma against porn is kind of what drew me to porn. 8 00:00:41,950 --> 00:00:45,113 The time in which you might be stigmatized- 9 00:00:45,328 --> 00:00:49,162 - by casting someone from the adult film industry I think is just gone. 10 00:00:49,374 --> 00:00:53,701 Now you have to bring so much more to be so much less of a name. 11 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:55,877 He was the perfect porn-star. 12 00:00:56,089 --> 00:00:58,456 There was just something very innocent- 13 00:00:58,675 --> 00:01:00,837 - about us getting naked and having sex on camera. 14 00:01:01,052 --> 00:01:04,282 That's why I attribute my longevity to just a lot of classical movies- 15 00:01:04,306 --> 00:01:06,431 - from the golden era, and also a lot of mainstream. 16 00:01:06,475 --> 00:01:08,995 We realize people have no idea that these are real- 17 00:01:09,019 --> 00:01:11,761 - flesh and blood people that're working. 18 00:01:11,980 --> 00:01:14,563 It's porn. You're in it. That's it. 19 00:01:18,987 --> 00:01:22,605 Adult film stars are just that, Stars. 20 00:01:22,783 --> 00:01:24,774 Most people can name one porn-star, 21 00:01:24,951 --> 00:01:28,535 - and everybody's seen 'em in action at least once, 22 00:01:28,747 --> 00:01:30,863 - and more than that if they're being honest. 23 00:01:33,168 --> 00:01:37,002 That makes adult film stars celebrities. Take it from me. 24 00:01:37,214 --> 00:01:39,956 I'm Mr. Skin and I filled my own internet empire- 25 00:01:40,175 --> 00:01:43,384 - by sharing naked celebrities with the world at large. 26 00:01:43,595 --> 00:01:49,386 And tonight we're gonna meet some of the greatest adult film stars of all time. 27 00:01:49,601 --> 00:01:50,976 Now, what makes them the greatest? 28 00:01:51,019 --> 00:01:56,726 Is it their looks, their sexual prowess, their longevity in the industry, 29 00:01:56,942 --> 00:02:00,355 - their ability to cross over to the mainstream? 30 00:02:00,570 --> 00:02:03,733 Or is it a combination of all of these things? 31 00:02:03,949 --> 00:02:07,817 Well, everyone on this list checks many of those boxes- 32 00:02:08,036 --> 00:02:12,030 - as we salute the most famous, most fascinating... 33 00:02:12,249 --> 00:02:15,787 ...and all around hottest adult film stars in history. 34 00:02:18,839 --> 00:02:22,922 Let's kick it off with some of the most popular porn-stars of all time. 35 00:02:23,134 --> 00:02:25,922 When fans name their favorite adult performers... 36 00:02:26,137 --> 00:02:29,755 ...these names come right off the tips of everyone's tongues. 37 00:02:29,975 --> 00:02:33,766 It's a hall of fame hotter than anything in plain old Hollywood. 38 00:02:38,066 --> 00:02:41,275 Fuck me. Yeah. Yeah. 39 00:02:41,486 --> 00:02:46,071 Tori was a very strong performer that really kind of blew up very quickly- 40 00:02:46,283 --> 00:02:51,781 - and became one of those girls who that year, those two years won everything. 41 00:02:51,997 --> 00:02:55,560 I know that Tori has won the Back to Back Female Performer of the Year awards. 42 00:02:55,584 --> 00:02:56,949 She's kinky and gorgeous. 43 00:02:57,168 --> 00:02:59,125 You can't get any better than that. 44 00:02:59,337 --> 00:03:01,374 One of the best natural bodies in the business. 45 00:03:01,590 --> 00:03:05,003 Um, and when she's on sexually, wow. 46 00:03:05,218 --> 00:03:07,425 Growing up and being really boyish, 47 00:03:07,637 --> 00:03:11,380 - I never really imagined that I would be a model at all. 48 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:14,718 Any type of model, let alone this type. 49 00:03:14,936 --> 00:03:18,804 This industry really gave me a chance to be my deviant self. 50 00:03:19,024 --> 00:03:22,517 Curb your tongue, funny man. 51 00:03:25,947 --> 00:03:28,780 She was very good, uh, in front of the camera. 52 00:03:28,992 --> 00:03:32,326 Like she has that kind of mainstream believability. 53 00:03:32,537 --> 00:03:33,743 Yeah, yeah. 54 00:03:33,955 --> 00:03:35,912 Oh. 55 00:03:36,124 --> 00:03:37,580 When I appeared on "Ray Donovan," 56 00:03:37,792 --> 00:03:41,205 - um, when I came to set, and everybody was very welcoming- 57 00:03:41,421 --> 00:03:44,709 - and very warm and curious about the industry. 58 00:03:44,925 --> 00:03:46,882 Ooh. 59 00:03:51,723 --> 00:03:53,430 Ricky? 60 00:03:53,642 --> 00:03:55,804 Camera down. 61 00:03:56,019 --> 00:03:57,635 - Hey! - Ugh! 62 00:03:57,854 --> 00:04:02,563 I really feel like women's sexuality has been lost in the dark ages, 63 00:04:02,776 --> 00:04:05,359 - and I feel like it's really starting to evolve. 64 00:04:05,570 --> 00:04:10,072 I want to leave behind that empowering feeling for women. 65 00:04:10,283 --> 00:04:12,820 I want women to know that it's okay to be sexual. 66 00:04:13,036 --> 00:04:15,994 I want women to know that you can be classy- 67 00:04:16,206 --> 00:04:20,456 - and graceful and elegant and smart and sophisticated, and a freak. 68 00:04:20,669 --> 00:04:22,626 Like you don't have to leave that off the list- 69 00:04:22,837 --> 00:04:24,828 - in order to be the other things. 70 00:04:25,048 --> 00:04:29,632 If you have all those things and you're a freak, you are unstoppable. 71 00:04:38,645 --> 00:04:41,854 I think Christy is a superstar. 72 00:04:42,065 --> 00:04:47,485 I don't think there's any question. I think Christy's a big star for a lot of reasons. 73 00:04:47,654 --> 00:04:50,112 - First of all... - She had massive tits. 74 00:04:50,323 --> 00:04:51,529 And that always helps. 75 00:04:51,741 --> 00:04:52,776 And they were natural. 76 00:04:52,993 --> 00:04:54,904 Natural massive tits. 77 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:56,360 And that helps ever more. 78 00:04:56,579 --> 00:04:58,946 How I became a star in this business- 79 00:04:59,165 --> 00:05:01,202 - is beyond me, but when I look back, 80 00:05:01,418 --> 00:05:05,916 - you had to like me 'cause there were only four of us to choose from. I was like, 81 00:05:06,131 --> 00:05:08,293 - the big titted girl next door. 82 00:05:08,508 --> 00:05:11,296 She was genuinely a very stunning, beautiful woman, 83 00:05:11,511 --> 00:05:15,337 - so I don't think it was solely just 'cause there was only a few of them. 84 00:05:15,557 --> 00:05:20,930 You know, that first time was with Ron Jeremy, I mean, and it was so porno-y. 85 00:05:21,146 --> 00:05:23,262 She knew how to talk dirty during sex. 86 00:05:23,481 --> 00:05:26,348 She just sort of knew what was on your mind. 87 00:05:26,568 --> 00:05:29,151 - Do you wanna fuck me? - Oh, yeah. 88 00:05:29,362 --> 00:05:31,353 Do you wanna stick your cock in my pussy? 89 00:05:31,573 --> 00:05:33,109 She was a good comedienne. 90 00:05:33,324 --> 00:05:34,908 She doesn't take herself too seriously. 91 00:05:34,993 --> 00:05:36,410 You get your makeup done, 92 00:05:36,578 --> 00:05:39,741 - you suck a dick, you'd have a catered lunch. 93 00:05:39,956 --> 00:05:43,310 So if it was my choice, she probably would've been my number one pick back in the day. 94 00:05:43,334 --> 00:05:44,334 She had it all. 95 00:05:44,419 --> 00:05:46,376 I'm Christy Canyon. 96 00:05:46,588 --> 00:05:50,673 Back in, back in the day, goddammit, that meant something. 97 00:05:50,884 --> 00:05:52,625 It was like the perfect storm. 98 00:05:52,844 --> 00:05:55,252 She could act, she wanted to do it, 99 00:05:55,472 --> 00:05:57,338 - her scenes were good, she had giant boobs. 100 00:05:57,557 --> 00:06:00,390 I just always like morphed into something else in this business. 101 00:06:00,602 --> 00:06:06,142 I mean, from making films to dancing to writing my book to radio for ten years, 102 00:06:06,357 --> 00:06:11,860 - I just showed up, did my job, had great sex and got my $200- 103 00:06:12,072 --> 00:06:15,531 - and felt like I owned the world. 104 00:06:23,833 --> 00:06:27,042 I started doing adult films in 1999. 105 00:06:34,594 --> 00:06:35,988 You know, in the beginning, she kind of looked like- 106 00:06:36,012 --> 00:06:37,844 - a Vietnamese war vet without makeup. 107 00:06:38,056 --> 00:06:39,931 You put makeup on her and she had a soft body- 108 00:06:40,058 --> 00:06:41,844 - and all natural and gorgeous boobs. 109 00:06:42,060 --> 00:06:44,163 Because for so long we really only exploited the sexuality- 110 00:06:44,187 --> 00:06:46,146 - of people that had fake boobs and blonde hair. 111 00:06:46,356 --> 00:06:50,349 I feel like Tera Patrick was like just a magnificent supermodel. 112 00:06:50,568 --> 00:06:52,184 She came off very confident, 113 00:06:52,403 --> 00:06:55,065 - and like her body and her gorgeousness matched it. 114 00:06:57,617 --> 00:07:00,429 You know, we never really stayed in the adult bubble when we were marketing her. 115 00:07:00,453 --> 00:07:02,223 We thought we can get her out there to everybody. 116 00:07:02,247 --> 00:07:05,535 This girl is somebody that everybody will love, and everybody did. 117 00:07:05,750 --> 00:07:07,937 She was on the cover of "FHM" and the cover of "Maxim"- 118 00:07:07,961 --> 00:07:09,543 - and all the men's magazines. 119 00:07:09,754 --> 00:07:12,108 When I started independently, I did a lot of gonzo movies, 120 00:07:12,132 --> 00:07:14,464 - and I remember fans always saying, 121 00:07:14,676 --> 00:07:16,070 - oh my gosh, why are you doing Gonzo movies? 122 00:07:16,094 --> 00:07:17,886 You should be doing these like big features. 123 00:07:18,096 --> 00:07:19,678 And I was like, are you kidding me? 124 00:07:19,889 --> 00:07:21,909 I just wanna go and have sex. It really was about the sex. 125 00:07:21,933 --> 00:07:23,970 I think I was one of her first Girl/Girl scenes, 126 00:07:24,185 --> 00:07:26,768 - so I was just more nervous on the fact of, you know, 127 00:07:26,980 --> 00:07:29,472 - she's Tera Patrick, and she's so much taller than me, too. 128 00:07:29,691 --> 00:07:33,400 Like my face was at her vagina. 129 00:07:33,611 --> 00:07:36,841 What I liked about working with Vivid was it was the first time where I actually- 130 00:07:36,865 --> 00:07:41,195 - completely got creative control over everything I wanted to do in a movie. 131 00:07:44,831 --> 00:07:47,660 She's bright and she's articulate, and she's very creative. 132 00:07:47,876 --> 00:07:50,493 Ooh, yeah, right. Uh, yeah, you're on my clit. 133 00:07:50,712 --> 00:07:53,579 But I've been asked, would you ever come back to porn? 134 00:07:53,798 --> 00:07:56,215 What if someone just dropped a million dollars right there- 135 00:07:56,426 --> 00:07:59,845 - and said, you and Rocco can have sex in Egypt on the pyramids. 136 00:08:00,013 --> 00:08:01,469 I still wouldn't do it. 137 00:08:01,681 --> 00:08:03,592 There was only so far I could go, 138 00:08:03,808 --> 00:08:06,721 - and I feel like ten years is a good amount of time- 139 00:08:06,936 --> 00:08:09,223 - and a long time to be in the porn business. 140 00:08:16,863 --> 00:08:18,729 Seka is amazing. 141 00:08:18,948 --> 00:08:21,690 She's my all time favorite actress of that era. 142 00:08:21,868 --> 00:08:23,233 She's very glamorous. 143 00:08:23,453 --> 00:08:25,035 She was strictly business. 144 00:08:25,246 --> 00:08:27,157 All business. Very smart girl. 145 00:08:27,373 --> 00:08:32,329 She kind of reminded me like of a trashy version of Marilyn Monroe. 146 00:08:32,545 --> 00:08:36,504 Would you like to suck on my tits, huh, right there? 147 00:08:36,716 --> 00:08:38,206 Ooh. 148 00:08:38,426 --> 00:08:42,169 What made me different than anybody else at the time? 149 00:08:42,388 --> 00:08:45,050 For one thing, I was the first platinum blonde. 150 00:08:45,266 --> 00:08:49,096 I mean, there were other blondes, but not screaming blonde hair. 151 00:08:49,312 --> 00:08:51,269 She was working at a porn store, 152 00:08:51,481 --> 00:08:53,768 - and she was watching the porn and thought to herself, 153 00:08:53,983 --> 00:08:55,724 - I could do way better than this. 154 00:08:55,944 --> 00:09:00,149 They have really dirty feet, and they've got pimples on their butts. 155 00:09:00,365 --> 00:09:01,855 I said, this is really nasty. 156 00:09:02,075 --> 00:09:04,282 I went and made my first adult movie, 157 00:09:04,494 --> 00:09:06,986 - and I don't think there was even sound at the time. 158 00:09:07,205 --> 00:09:08,695 It was in color, though. 159 00:09:08,915 --> 00:09:11,915 I mean, I'm old, but I'm not that old, so it was in color. 160 00:09:12,126 --> 00:09:14,584 And having owned adult bookstores, 161 00:09:14,796 --> 00:09:17,379 - I knew the stars in the business when I went on set, 162 00:09:17,590 --> 00:09:20,708 - and I just felt like a big piece of meat on a hook. 163 00:09:20,927 --> 00:09:23,919 "Prisoner of Paradise" was kind of fun. 164 00:09:24,138 --> 00:09:30,225 I played a German Nazi bitch with a really bad German accent. 165 00:09:30,436 --> 00:09:31,872 But I thought, no, she's a southern girl. 166 00:09:31,896 --> 00:09:34,137 How's she gonna do a Nazi? 167 00:09:34,357 --> 00:09:35,563 But she did. 168 00:09:35,775 --> 00:09:40,394 Don't you cum in me, you American swine. 169 00:09:40,613 --> 00:09:44,322 Don't cum in me, you American swine. 170 00:09:44,534 --> 00:09:47,117 ♪ Oh, seka ♪ 171 00:09:47,328 --> 00:09:49,990 ♪ Tried on some sexy clothes ♪ 172 00:09:50,206 --> 00:09:54,078 The film itself, "Inside Seka," was an incredibly popular film- 173 00:09:54,294 --> 00:09:56,753 - simply because it was one of the films that had been made- 174 00:09:56,921 --> 00:09:59,333 - sort of when that porno chic period was ending. 175 00:10:07,056 --> 00:10:10,077 And the reason why they were so important is because they were star-centric. 176 00:10:10,101 --> 00:10:11,810 Seka has sex with about 20 different guys. 177 00:10:11,853 --> 00:10:15,016 She also was given $10,000 as her pay. 178 00:10:15,231 --> 00:10:19,441 Around 1982, I decided to stop performing. 179 00:10:19,652 --> 00:10:22,644 AIDS was starting to become a real big issue for me. 180 00:10:22,864 --> 00:10:26,653 I'd worked for "Club" magazine after that for about ten years- 181 00:10:26,868 --> 00:10:28,660 - and I traveled around the world stripping, 182 00:10:28,703 --> 00:10:32,116 - and I had a great time and made a butt-load of money. 183 00:10:38,338 --> 00:10:41,088 I always thought she looked like Raquel Welch when she was younger. 184 00:10:41,215 --> 00:10:45,132 So she was beautiful, her scenes were hot, and she was a party girl. 185 00:10:45,345 --> 00:10:50,301 That's a really good combination, for a superstar. 186 00:10:50,516 --> 00:10:53,008 She wasn't about making movies. She was about fucking. 187 00:10:53,227 --> 00:10:56,932 She would show up and just want to have sex, and do her best at that. 188 00:10:57,148 --> 00:10:58,889 We can lay music over this, right? 189 00:10:59,108 --> 00:11:00,815 - Yeah. - Great. 190 00:11:01,027 --> 00:11:02,319 You don't mind just fucking me. 191 00:11:02,487 --> 00:11:04,694 Action. 192 00:11:10,495 --> 00:11:12,431 The pickin's weren't like it is today. 193 00:11:12,455 --> 00:11:16,869 It's not like now where the beautiful hot chicks are a dime a dozen. 194 00:11:17,085 --> 00:11:18,996 So I was fresh meat. 195 00:11:19,212 --> 00:11:22,204 I was excited about my work. 196 00:11:22,423 --> 00:11:25,586 January of '89 I had my first contract with Vivid- 197 00:11:25,802 --> 00:11:28,419 - on the back of a cocktail napkin at the Tropicana. 198 00:11:28,638 --> 00:11:30,720 It was that simple. 199 00:11:30,932 --> 00:11:35,137 Tori Welles was one of the first home video stars of her era. 200 00:11:35,353 --> 00:11:37,515 She was then contracted with Vivid, 201 00:11:37,730 --> 00:11:42,015 - who loaned her out to Andrew Blake to make "Night Trips." 202 00:11:42,235 --> 00:11:48,188 The idea of "Night Trips" basically came from my art direction- 203 00:11:48,408 --> 00:11:50,570 - and fashion design background. 204 00:11:50,785 --> 00:11:56,280 And, uh, I just wanted to make the most beautiful movies that I could- 205 00:11:56,499 --> 00:12:00,538 - with the most beautiful talent that was available at the time. 206 00:12:00,753 --> 00:12:04,792 He really made her the star like putting her in almost every single scene. 207 00:12:05,007 --> 00:12:10,752 It was one of a kind, and it was the most beautiful porn every made at that time. 208 00:12:10,972 --> 00:12:13,839 She was like pure sex and a mile wide. 209 00:12:14,058 --> 00:12:17,477 It was very trans-formative during that period, and she was at the right time, 210 00:12:17,645 --> 00:12:19,852 - the right place, with the right people. 211 00:12:20,064 --> 00:12:24,686 The success of "Night Trips" it just happened before my eyes, 212 00:12:24,902 --> 00:12:30,655 - probably because of the beauty, and sexual prowess of Tori Welles. 213 00:12:30,867 --> 00:12:35,194 I made a name accidentally, but because of the drug addiction- 214 00:12:35,413 --> 00:12:38,058 - and because of the felonies, and because of things like that, 215 00:12:38,082 --> 00:12:39,560 - you're not always able to move on, 216 00:12:39,584 --> 00:12:43,284 - you know, so you come back to the adult tit, so to speak. 217 00:12:43,504 --> 00:12:48,669 I mean, I had gone from being Tori Welles to like being a P.A. 218 00:12:48,885 --> 00:12:52,219 It's like talk about humiliating. 219 00:12:52,430 --> 00:12:55,968 So, you know, some of it was good, and some of it was bad, you know. 220 00:12:56,184 --> 00:12:57,640 Some of it was stupid. 221 00:12:57,852 --> 00:13:00,264 You know, you don't get into this business if, 222 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:02,938 - you know, you're completely got your shit together. 223 00:13:03,149 --> 00:13:07,225 You just don't, and I don't care what anybody says. 224 00:13:15,661 --> 00:13:19,074 Uh, I actually started working at Hooters when I was 17 years old. 225 00:13:19,290 --> 00:13:22,786 You were supposed to be 18, but I kind of was naturally big. 226 00:13:23,002 --> 00:13:24,584 Somebody was trying to scout me. 227 00:13:24,795 --> 00:13:26,690 They were like, why haven't you done "Playboy"? 228 00:13:26,714 --> 00:13:28,546 And I was like, I'd rather do porn. 229 00:13:28,758 --> 00:13:32,001 And I flew out to L.A. Literally it was on a Friday, 230 00:13:32,220 --> 00:13:33,881 - and by the time I came home Sunday, 231 00:13:34,096 --> 00:13:36,508 I had a signed contract with Digital Playground. 232 00:13:36,724 --> 00:13:39,216 She was almost a star from the moment we signed her. 233 00:13:39,435 --> 00:13:42,473 So it wasn't so much a matter of making Jesse Jane a star. 234 00:13:42,688 --> 00:13:44,429 It was just a matter of showing the world. 235 00:13:44,649 --> 00:13:47,982 And at the time, Seymore Butts had his show, "Family Business," 236 00:13:48,194 --> 00:13:50,526 - so he followed me around like a little puppy dog. 237 00:13:50,738 --> 00:13:52,149 I have finally tracked you down. 238 00:13:52,365 --> 00:13:53,884 Do you know how many times I have seen you? 239 00:13:53,908 --> 00:13:57,783 Every time you catch my eye, and I wanna zoom up over to you, 240 00:13:57,995 --> 00:14:00,953 - but you disappear as quick as you appear. 241 00:14:01,165 --> 00:14:05,479 And now that I just saw you, I just feel like, I just felt like I just had to like get you- 242 00:14:05,503 --> 00:14:07,481 - while I knew you were cornered. Are you planning on... 243 00:14:07,505 --> 00:14:09,900 Honey, I need you to do an interview. Come do an interview. 244 00:14:09,924 --> 00:14:13,375 And then from then, they were like, yep, she's made for porn. 245 00:14:13,594 --> 00:14:14,905 She's definitely, you know what? 246 00:14:14,929 --> 00:14:16,419 We made a right decision. 247 00:14:16,639 --> 00:14:18,223 It's mine to ride when I'm fucking you. 248 00:14:18,266 --> 00:14:19,848 Oh, yes. 249 00:14:20,059 --> 00:14:22,050 I want the whole package. I want it all. 250 00:14:22,270 --> 00:14:24,307 I wanna be the next star. 251 00:14:24,522 --> 00:14:25,939 Like the team that I had behind me, 252 00:14:26,023 --> 00:14:27,918 - like the marketing and everything was genius. 253 00:14:27,942 --> 00:14:29,853 Marketing her was simple. 254 00:14:30,069 --> 00:14:32,857 I mean, one image would elicit so many responses- 255 00:14:33,072 --> 00:14:35,406 - from the media, and then once people met her in person, 256 00:14:35,575 --> 00:14:36,992 - you know, she never disappointed. 257 00:14:37,034 --> 00:14:40,743 I saw her do a Girl/Girl in the "Pirates" movie that was really intense. 258 00:14:40,955 --> 00:14:44,914 It was basically like sex fighting, and I've never seen anything like that. 259 00:14:45,126 --> 00:14:46,311 - Fuck, yeah? - I Wanna kiss you. 260 00:14:46,335 --> 00:14:47,996 - Yeah? - Slap me harder. 261 00:14:48,212 --> 00:14:50,544 Yeah? Yeah? 262 00:14:55,761 --> 00:14:58,053 I think that's sort of the quintessential barbie almost. 263 00:14:58,180 --> 00:15:00,222 Barbie's been everything. She's been an astronaut. 264 00:15:00,391 --> 00:15:02,382 She's been, she's been everything in between. 265 00:15:02,602 --> 00:15:06,391 So, yeah, there you go, The Ultimate Porn Barbie. 266 00:15:06,606 --> 00:15:10,856 It's all I wanted. Like I wanted to be known as the sex symbol you'll always remember. 267 00:15:11,068 --> 00:15:14,445 That when I get out of the business, you'll still know the name Jesse Jane. 268 00:15:16,616 --> 00:15:20,450 The average lifespan of an adult female performer's career- 269 00:15:20,661 --> 00:15:23,907 - is less than two years, but this next group of stars- 270 00:15:24,123 --> 00:15:27,995 - have careers that span from 20 to over 30 years. 271 00:15:29,754 --> 00:15:31,961 Now, why have these knockouts lasted in an industry- 272 00:15:32,173 --> 00:15:35,040 - that always looks for the next big thing? 273 00:15:35,259 --> 00:15:37,045 Because these are the golden goddesses- 274 00:15:37,261 --> 00:15:39,844 - whose beauty, passion, and raw sexuality- 275 00:15:40,056 --> 00:15:43,594 - transcends all elements, including time. 276 00:15:45,645 --> 00:15:49,266 One of the reasons for my longevity is I just would not leave- 277 00:15:49,482 --> 00:15:51,357 - when they all wanted me to after five years. 278 00:15:51,567 --> 00:15:53,399 Once I hit 30, they sort of, I mean, 279 00:15:53,611 --> 00:15:56,069 - I got the AVN Lifetime Achievement Award in 1989. 280 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:57,989 It's like you trying to tell me something? 281 00:16:01,243 --> 00:16:05,403 When you watch her fuck on film, it is genuine. 282 00:16:05,623 --> 00:16:07,434 She also just has that something, that star quality. 283 00:16:07,458 --> 00:16:11,201 Nina Hartley really resonates with so many people- 284 00:16:11,420 --> 00:16:14,333 - that have become her ardent fans over the years- 285 00:16:14,548 --> 00:16:21,135 - because she's so accessible, and she's so honest, and she's so fearless. 286 00:16:21,347 --> 00:16:26,052 I've been able to maintain a 30-year-plus career because I basically love the work. 287 00:16:26,268 --> 00:16:28,930 But the first time I saw sex onscreen- 288 00:16:29,146 --> 00:16:33,265 - my inner cookie monster just said: "Me want do that." 289 00:16:33,484 --> 00:16:36,351 Like she had a, uh, kind of a cameo in "Boogie Nights"- 290 00:16:36,570 --> 00:16:39,312 - that like she really showed what she's made of- 291 00:16:39,532 --> 00:16:41,468 - when she does a little bit more mainstream stuff. 292 00:16:41,492 --> 00:16:43,779 She played William Macy's wife. 293 00:16:43,994 --> 00:16:47,328 She was kind of a sexual free spirit in the movie. 294 00:16:47,540 --> 00:16:50,328 She cuckolded him many, many times. 295 00:16:50,543 --> 00:16:52,625 What the fuck are you doing? 296 00:16:54,171 --> 00:16:56,037 What the fuck does it look like I'm doing? 297 00:16:56,257 --> 00:16:57,292 Can you close the door? 298 00:16:57,508 --> 00:16:59,044 That's my wife, you asshole. 299 00:16:59,260 --> 00:17:01,467 For a sex worker, when they try to go out- 300 00:17:01,679 --> 00:17:04,717 - and give sex education, to be taken seriously, 301 00:17:04,932 --> 00:17:07,469 - I think no one is taken more seriously than Nina. 302 00:17:07,685 --> 00:17:10,973 There's her vagina, her urethra, and her clit. 303 00:17:11,188 --> 00:17:13,105 So how can I be a feminist and be a sex worker? 304 00:17:13,315 --> 00:17:15,352 The bottom line is my body, my rules. 305 00:17:15,568 --> 00:17:19,561 And the message on that was whatever you wanna do is okay. 306 00:17:19,780 --> 00:17:21,896 That women should not be judged- 307 00:17:22,116 --> 00:17:24,403 - for being in this business and being on set- 308 00:17:24,618 --> 00:17:26,859 - and having sex with a different person every day. 309 00:17:27,079 --> 00:17:31,207 The energy coming at me, the laws coming at me from both the religious right- 310 00:17:31,375 --> 00:17:34,043 - and the so-called feminist left are exactly the same. 311 00:17:34,086 --> 00:17:35,372 They're prohibitionary. 312 00:17:35,588 --> 00:17:38,275 Um, one doesn't want me to have an abortion, and one does not want me to sell- 313 00:17:38,299 --> 00:17:40,757 - the services of my vulva for money. 314 00:17:40,968 --> 00:17:42,675 I'm a Trojan horse for queer culture. 315 00:17:42,887 --> 00:17:45,254 I'm a bisexual, I am kinky and all these things, 316 00:17:45,473 --> 00:17:47,680 - but I dress up normal, I look very straight, 317 00:17:47,892 --> 00:17:51,217 - and my most fun times are when I get my face- 318 00:17:51,437 --> 00:17:53,178 - between the legs of a gay-for-pay girl- 319 00:17:53,397 --> 00:17:54,624 - and get a real response out of her. 320 00:17:54,648 --> 00:17:56,685 It's like, yes, I am that good. 321 00:18:01,447 --> 00:18:03,814 Her being with wicked for so long- 322 00:18:04,033 --> 00:18:09,030 - was a lot of the reason for the longevity in her career, and her evolution. 323 00:18:09,246 --> 00:18:13,706 I think she's hotter now than she was 15 years ago. 324 00:18:13,918 --> 00:18:17,206 But then when you go beyond her physical aspects, 325 00:18:17,421 --> 00:18:19,958 - she's a good voice and an advocate for our industry. 326 00:18:20,174 --> 00:18:24,046 Because Jessica has been in, so many blockbuster adult movies, 327 00:18:24,261 --> 00:18:28,588 - she's one of the few modern adult stars recognizable to the average consumer. 328 00:18:31,936 --> 00:18:33,176 Oh, fuck. 329 00:18:33,395 --> 00:18:34,706 I was a stripper. 330 00:18:34,730 --> 00:18:42,276 I had the luck to run into Blondage, which was Janine and Julia Ann. 331 00:18:42,488 --> 00:18:45,731 And I saw them onstage and something clicked. 332 00:18:45,950 --> 00:18:47,281 Yeah. 333 00:18:47,493 --> 00:18:52,070 A few people from wicked called me, and then I agreed to sign with them. 334 00:18:52,289 --> 00:18:56,035 And I also came to realize that the more I personally have to do with the movie, 335 00:18:56,252 --> 00:18:58,289 - the happier I am with the outcome. 336 00:19:05,010 --> 00:19:09,011 So she won Best Actress, and won this great Hardcore Scene Award. 337 00:19:09,223 --> 00:19:13,845 And I think that defines Jessica along the way as well. 338 00:19:14,061 --> 00:19:19,055 Even at adult star signings, women are getting in line and telling her- 339 00:19:19,275 --> 00:19:22,142 - their sex concerns and issues and problems. 340 00:19:22,361 --> 00:19:29,699 And then they started asking me for sex advice, so I saw this opening- 341 00:19:29,910 --> 00:19:34,370 - for a different kind of sex-ed, or a different kind of instructional. 342 00:19:34,582 --> 00:19:36,949 Jessica drake is unique. 343 00:19:37,167 --> 00:19:40,576 For one thing, DVD sales are dying, and her movies still sell great. 344 00:19:40,796 --> 00:19:42,503 She's a spokesperson for Wicked, 345 00:19:42,715 --> 00:19:45,457 - she's a spokesperson for the entire adult industry. 346 00:19:45,676 --> 00:19:47,667 She's a successful sex educator, 347 00:19:47,887 --> 00:19:49,489 - has had a ton of mainstream appearances, 348 00:19:49,513 --> 00:19:53,173 - and, oh, by the way, still has time, for all her philanthropy. 349 00:19:53,392 --> 00:19:56,851 So she's truly unique amongst today's stars. 350 00:20:07,197 --> 00:20:09,426 Working with her, the scenes were over way too quickly, 351 00:20:09,450 --> 00:20:10,760 - and then, of course, I'm masturbating in my car- 352 00:20:10,784 --> 00:20:11,970 - thinking about her driving home. 353 00:20:11,994 --> 00:20:14,986 But, PFST, sex with Kylie? Perfect. 354 00:20:15,205 --> 00:20:19,494 She's just such a strong, powerful, um, artistic, 355 00:20:19,710 --> 00:20:21,246 - and visionary woman in my mind. 356 00:20:21,462 --> 00:20:23,565 You know, if she wanted to come back and do films now, 357 00:20:23,589 --> 00:20:26,172 - which I would absolutely be there if she would, 358 00:20:26,383 --> 00:20:29,091 - she could and she would kill it- 359 00:20:29,303 --> 00:20:32,341 - just as if it was 10 or 15 or even 20 years ago. 360 00:20:33,807 --> 00:20:36,517 So I suppose you could say I started kind of in this business, 361 00:20:36,727 --> 00:20:39,768 - but not in this business when I worked in a video store in San Diego, 362 00:20:39,980 --> 00:20:44,725 - and I was in charge of ordering adult movies. 363 00:20:44,944 --> 00:20:48,256 And they said, okay, this is randy west you're gonna be working with him, I'm like, 364 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:49,655 - yeah, okay, I know who you are. 365 00:20:49,698 --> 00:20:52,110 And I was extremely nervous. 366 00:20:52,284 --> 00:20:55,443 I never thought in a million years that I would win best new starlet. 367 00:20:55,663 --> 00:20:57,140 I was thrilled that I was nominated. 368 00:20:57,164 --> 00:20:58,370 Kylie Ireland. 369 00:21:00,793 --> 00:21:04,244 And I have to thank all the people that have believed in me. 370 00:21:04,463 --> 00:21:07,672 It was '95 maybe that I signed a contract with Sin City. 371 00:21:07,883 --> 00:21:09,089 We started shooting movies, 372 00:21:09,301 --> 00:21:13,135 - and we were supposed to do like basically I think it was a movie a month. 373 00:21:13,347 --> 00:21:15,088 And suddenly none of us shot anything. 374 00:21:15,307 --> 00:21:19,050 I decided I was gonna go to small claims court. 375 00:21:19,269 --> 00:21:24,772 I didn't realize at this point that that's where "Judge Judy" picked up their cases. 376 00:21:24,984 --> 00:21:28,976 You are about to enter the courtroom of judge Judith Sheindlin. 377 00:21:29,196 --> 00:21:31,654 Kylie Ireland is an adult movie star. 378 00:21:31,865 --> 00:21:34,277 She's suing this producer for breach of contract. 379 00:21:34,493 --> 00:21:36,575 - She's not some airhead. - Thank you. 380 00:21:36,787 --> 00:21:38,698 And I'm awarding $5,000 to the plaintiff. 381 00:21:38,914 --> 00:21:41,155 Remember, there was no internet at the time. 382 00:21:41,375 --> 00:21:43,912 Adult stars didn't end up on reality shows. 383 00:21:44,128 --> 00:21:46,244 That catapulted her to another level. 384 00:21:46,463 --> 00:21:48,170 She was already popular, but now she's, 385 00:21:48,382 --> 00:21:52,090 - mainstream people are going, well, who's this women on "judge Judy"? 386 00:21:52,302 --> 00:21:54,043 She's incredible behind the camera. 387 00:21:54,263 --> 00:21:55,949 That's when I started doing production design. 388 00:21:55,973 --> 00:21:58,385 I just always wanted to say, I won art direction, 389 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:02,343 - and that didn't happen until we did "Star Wars XXX." 390 00:22:04,106 --> 00:22:07,519 I find your lack of faith disturbing. 391 00:22:07,735 --> 00:22:09,225 My life is so weird. 392 00:22:09,445 --> 00:22:11,172 Sometimes I just sit here and I go, my life is so strange. 393 00:22:11,196 --> 00:22:13,696 How bizarre is my life that this is what I'm doing right now? 394 00:22:16,326 --> 00:22:19,489 Up till now, we've met some the greatest female stars- 395 00:22:19,705 --> 00:22:21,161 - of all time. 396 00:22:21,373 --> 00:22:24,699 But you may be asking yourself, where are the men? 397 00:22:24,918 --> 00:22:26,784 Okay, let's bring on the biggest studs, 398 00:22:27,004 --> 00:22:30,793 - in every sense, in the history of the adult business. 399 00:22:31,008 --> 00:22:33,249 We start with john C. Holmes, 400 00:22:33,469 --> 00:22:37,133 - whose claim to fame rested between his legs. 401 00:22:37,347 --> 00:22:40,840 - Are you really twin brothers? - No, not really. 402 00:22:41,060 --> 00:22:42,846 Same father, different mothers. 403 00:22:43,062 --> 00:22:45,415 Oh, what a mess. Will someone come here and change the sheet here? 404 00:22:45,439 --> 00:22:46,645 Oh, this is disgusting. 405 00:22:46,857 --> 00:22:47,959 Oh, that's the same hand, isn't it? 406 00:22:47,983 --> 00:22:49,314 - Yeah. - Oh, god. 407 00:22:49,526 --> 00:22:52,439 John Holmes definitely impacted pop culture. 408 00:22:52,654 --> 00:22:55,817 And especially in the '70s, he was it. 409 00:22:56,033 --> 00:22:58,240 He was like a sight to see. 410 00:22:58,452 --> 00:22:59,658 14 inches. 411 00:22:59,870 --> 00:23:01,120 And they all wanted to see it. 412 00:23:01,288 --> 00:23:02,653 That's what John was. 413 00:23:02,873 --> 00:23:04,034 He was a freak. 414 00:23:04,249 --> 00:23:07,335 I was sitting there editing, and my partner comes out and he says, Bob, 415 00:23:07,377 --> 00:23:09,169 - you gotta come in and see this guy's dick. 416 00:23:09,379 --> 00:23:11,837 Wow! 417 00:23:12,049 --> 00:23:17,756 I said, man, that's the last thing I wanna do is see a tall skinny guy's dick. 418 00:23:17,971 --> 00:23:21,430 I can't paint and I can't draw and I can't sculpt. 419 00:23:21,642 --> 00:23:26,227 So I have to have some outlet for my fake artistic qualities. 420 00:23:26,438 --> 00:23:27,832 My name is Johnny Wadd. 421 00:23:27,856 --> 00:23:29,312 I'm a private detective. 422 00:23:29,525 --> 00:23:31,061 It was one of those slow days- 423 00:23:31,276 --> 00:23:34,064 - where there was very little money and very little pussy. 424 00:23:38,283 --> 00:23:43,027 Basically they get involved with me, for one of one reason. 425 00:23:43,247 --> 00:23:46,615 And, uh, it doesn't go beyond that. 426 00:23:46,834 --> 00:23:50,493 He quite literally didn't have to do anything, but be John Holmes. 427 00:23:50,712 --> 00:23:52,171 He came onto camera and he sat down- 428 00:23:52,297 --> 00:23:55,210 - and he leaned back and the girl did what she did. 429 00:23:55,425 --> 00:23:57,632 He would say, how much film you got? 430 00:23:57,845 --> 00:24:03,306 And have my cameraman could count down, and he could cum on cue. 431 00:24:03,517 --> 00:24:05,142 He was that good back in the early days. 432 00:24:05,352 --> 00:24:06,934 Not so much later. 433 00:24:07,146 --> 00:24:11,022 Why do you stay in the bathroom, for five hours at a time on sets? 434 00:24:11,233 --> 00:24:12,940 I don't know. It's a shitty habit. 435 00:24:13,152 --> 00:24:14,796 There was a time when he was very troubled. 436 00:24:14,820 --> 00:24:16,652 He'd been using drugs a lot, 437 00:24:16,864 --> 00:24:20,573 - and the reason we shot "Prisoner of Paradise"- 438 00:24:20,742 --> 00:24:23,359 - on Kauai was because I thought- 439 00:24:23,579 --> 00:24:27,742 - if we can get him away from Los Angeles, it might help him, and it did. 440 00:24:27,958 --> 00:24:29,369 His goal in life was just to see- 441 00:24:29,585 --> 00:24:32,872 - how many people he could fuck over as fast as he could- 442 00:24:33,088 --> 00:24:35,625 - and get out of town without getting killed. 443 00:24:35,841 --> 00:24:37,127 On the wonderland murders, 444 00:24:37,342 --> 00:24:41,547 Eddie Nash was this very big drug dealer, and john had hooked up. 445 00:24:41,763 --> 00:24:43,158 Uh, they heisted all the money and all the drugs from Eddie, 446 00:24:43,182 --> 00:24:44,599 - and Eddie found out it was John- 447 00:24:44,641 --> 00:24:46,473 - who got him in trouble, 448 00:24:46,685 --> 00:24:50,019 - and Eddie said, John's dead. 449 00:24:50,230 --> 00:24:54,519 He's like running around the country evading police. 450 00:24:54,735 --> 00:24:56,567 They catch him Florida. 451 00:24:56,778 --> 00:24:58,320 He's in jail and there's petty theft- 452 00:24:58,405 --> 00:25:01,739 - and there's burglary and then there's drug dealing- 453 00:25:01,950 --> 00:25:04,179 - and there's pimping and then he's prostituting himself. 454 00:25:04,203 --> 00:25:05,989 He's prostituting his girlfriend. 455 00:25:06,205 --> 00:25:08,080 He's all over the place doing whatever he can- 456 00:25:08,207 --> 00:25:10,143 - to basically keep this habit alive that he has- 457 00:25:10,167 --> 00:25:12,784 - that I don't think he ever quite overcame. 458 00:25:13,003 --> 00:25:15,085 We the jury, in the above entitled action, 459 00:25:15,297 --> 00:25:18,672 - find the defendant, John Curtis Holmes, not guilty of murder. 460 00:25:18,884 --> 00:25:22,843 When it came out that he did have AIDS, the shit hit the fan. 461 00:25:23,055 --> 00:25:25,888 In the industry that's pretty much the worst thing you can do. 462 00:25:26,099 --> 00:25:28,890 You're jeopardizing people's lives, and especially back then. 463 00:25:29,102 --> 00:25:30,467 AIDS was a death sentence. 464 00:25:30,687 --> 00:25:32,098 It wasn't something you managed. 465 00:25:32,314 --> 00:25:34,726 He just told them he had the flu. 466 00:25:34,942 --> 00:25:37,058 Typical of John to lie to everybody. 467 00:25:37,277 --> 00:25:39,314 Thank god none of them got sick. 468 00:25:39,529 --> 00:25:46,367 He was the ultimate gigolo, The ultimate Playboy. 469 00:25:47,621 --> 00:25:51,659 The ultimate con man, and that's what he was. 470 00:25:51,875 --> 00:25:53,661 Let's go. 471 00:25:53,877 --> 00:25:56,209 I want you to brief me before I get involved in this. 472 00:25:56,421 --> 00:25:57,752 Yes, sir. 473 00:26:03,095 --> 00:26:04,656 He's a consummate professional. 474 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:06,512 He's one of the few guys- 475 00:26:06,723 --> 00:26:10,591 - that's had a great balance between, um, chemistry- 476 00:26:10,811 --> 00:26:12,893 - and, and raw sexual energy. 477 00:26:13,105 --> 00:26:16,105 You know, like he's found a way to be a black man and not come on set- 478 00:26:16,316 --> 00:26:19,104 - with like, you know, a bunch of chains and jewelry- 479 00:26:19,319 --> 00:26:20,736 - and like an entourage, you know. 480 00:26:20,821 --> 00:26:25,447 He comes in, he has a hard dick, he lays it down and, you know, 481 00:26:25,659 --> 00:26:28,026 - he leaves a smile on your face. 482 00:26:28,245 --> 00:26:29,973 And it's so funny, 'cause he's the sweetest guy. 483 00:26:29,997 --> 00:26:31,453 Like he's just really mellow, 484 00:26:31,665 --> 00:26:34,578 - and then all of a sudden, he pulls out this monster. 485 00:26:34,793 --> 00:26:37,063 Very early out of college I got into finance, 486 00:26:37,087 --> 00:26:41,205 - and so I became the proverbial wall street stockbroker, for six years. 487 00:26:41,425 --> 00:26:44,041 The broker that trained me brought me to a party, 488 00:26:44,261 --> 00:26:46,468 - which was a 19-on-1 gangbang. 489 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:50,093 So I got kind of used to having sex in front of people- 490 00:26:50,309 --> 00:26:52,095 - at a very early part of my adulthood. 491 00:26:52,311 --> 00:26:53,955 That's why a lot of people buy his stuff, 492 00:26:53,979 --> 00:26:57,308 - 'cause they're like, I wanna watch Lex specifically fuck girls. 493 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:05,738 It was just me being myself, but the key ingredient was the casting. 494 00:27:05,949 --> 00:27:08,816 Always the absolute best female talent- 495 00:27:09,036 --> 00:27:10,786 - available at the moment we were shooting. 496 00:27:10,954 --> 00:27:13,491 I think that he is the most successful black performer ever- 497 00:27:13,707 --> 00:27:17,371 - because he's just so consistent and so driven. 498 00:27:19,171 --> 00:27:23,085 I won Male Performer of The Year 2000, 2002, and 2003, 499 00:27:23,300 --> 00:27:25,337 - and one of the things I've gotten out of it- 500 00:27:25,552 --> 00:27:28,510 - that has been perhaps more impactful in my life- 501 00:27:28,722 --> 00:27:31,259 - has been that I've been the only black performer- 502 00:27:31,475 --> 00:27:34,846 - to have won Performer of The Year Award male or female. 503 00:27:35,062 --> 00:27:38,600 He's probably one of the few successful black performers- 504 00:27:38,815 --> 00:27:42,774 - that owns his own company, and to me, that was very inspiring. 505 00:27:42,986 --> 00:27:47,008 For Lex to take his name, and then spin off and do other things, you know. 506 00:27:47,032 --> 00:27:49,023 He has his own podcast. 507 00:27:49,201 --> 00:27:52,617 He has his own talk show, you know, he has his own toy line. 508 00:27:52,829 --> 00:27:56,280 I'm in my 15th year in the major leagues, right, 509 00:27:56,500 --> 00:28:02,123 - and it's not really a case where I feel that I'm getting tired of performing, 510 00:28:02,339 --> 00:28:05,505 - you know, despite the fact that I may now be more than twice the age- 511 00:28:05,717 --> 00:28:07,278 - of some of the youngest performers I work with. 512 00:28:07,302 --> 00:28:10,589 I love the fact that, you know, I get to do this. 513 00:28:10,806 --> 00:28:14,844 And there's actually a renewed vigor, for performance that I'm undergoing- 514 00:28:15,060 --> 00:28:19,850 - because I've gotten to the point where I realize there's only a few guys globally- 515 00:28:20,065 --> 00:28:23,940 - that get a chance to perform, and be regarded as the main dudes. 516 00:28:24,152 --> 00:28:29,155 I appreciate being a performer more now than when I started my career. 517 00:28:29,366 --> 00:28:34,322 Yeah, when I started in Europe, so the three first years I did only in France. 518 00:28:34,538 --> 00:28:35,903 So I had to make a choice. 519 00:28:36,123 --> 00:28:38,660 I was done with school. What do I do now? 520 00:28:38,875 --> 00:28:41,207 Like am I starting being a teacher- 521 00:28:41,420 --> 00:28:45,379 - or if I do that, I'm gonna have to really focus on that. 522 00:28:45,590 --> 00:28:49,295 He's just very controlling, but passionate in the same way. 523 00:28:49,511 --> 00:28:55,301 He's one of the few men that I will let be rough with me, and take me into that level. 524 00:28:55,517 --> 00:28:58,351 I think that he's the perfect performer, for every girl to work with- 525 00:28:58,395 --> 00:29:02,896 - because he teaches you a lot about yourself while working with him. 526 00:29:03,108 --> 00:29:05,891 People started doing like the rough stuff, and the gonzo things, 527 00:29:06,111 --> 00:29:09,320 - and he kind of like threw himself in headfirst. 528 00:29:15,620 --> 00:29:19,016 Once the sex started, it just like seemed to go really naturally- 529 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,372 - and it was easy to just like tell him like, 530 00:29:21,585 --> 00:29:24,247 - oh, I have no limits. You can do whatever you want. 531 00:29:24,463 --> 00:29:27,125 It was really cool. It was like a roller-coaster. 532 00:29:29,176 --> 00:29:32,714 - Oh, fuck, yes. Yes, yes. - Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 533 00:29:32,929 --> 00:29:36,171 Uh, the first time I had sex with Manuel, I was super nervous. 534 00:29:36,391 --> 00:29:40,638 I was shaking and he had to keep asking me if I was okay and if I could go through with this. 535 00:29:40,854 --> 00:29:42,915 I was like, yeah, you just don't understand you're a huge deal. 536 00:29:42,939 --> 00:29:46,307 Like when I was 18, I was watching you fuck other women. 537 00:29:46,526 --> 00:29:48,358 I'm gonna cum. 538 00:29:48,570 --> 00:29:52,904 I've done so many scenes with Manuel, it kind of blurs together. 539 00:29:53,116 --> 00:29:56,859 At the point, you know when you're gonna die, and your life flashes before your eyes? 540 00:29:57,078 --> 00:30:00,370 It would just be lots of dicks, but Manuel would be in there a lot. 541 00:30:00,582 --> 00:30:04,120 So I won AVN male performer of the year six times. 542 00:30:04,336 --> 00:30:08,580 Uh, one of them I think was, uh, foreign performer of the year. 543 00:30:08,798 --> 00:30:10,414 Like it's like basketball. 544 00:30:10,634 --> 00:30:12,124 Like everyone can play basketball. 545 00:30:12,344 --> 00:30:14,381 Not everyone's gonna be Kobe. 546 00:30:21,394 --> 00:30:23,135 We're talking about good sex down here. 547 00:30:23,355 --> 00:30:25,562 Rocco's up there, you know. 548 00:30:25,774 --> 00:30:29,186 Just like doing all sorts of crazy passionate, hard fucking. 549 00:30:29,402 --> 00:30:33,191 And my first movie with john was "Buttman Ultimate Workout." 550 00:30:33,406 --> 00:30:35,397 John, you know what kind of girl I like. 551 00:30:35,617 --> 00:30:38,450 I like a girl with the big, round, culo ass. 552 00:30:40,330 --> 00:30:43,789 This is the most successful series I ever done. 553 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:49,210 I mean, john for me has really been a mentor. 554 00:30:55,762 --> 00:31:02,262 I think every male performer has Rocco in some way as a role model. 555 00:31:02,477 --> 00:31:05,219 He just exudes sexuality, 556 00:31:05,438 --> 00:31:07,805 - and you can't put your finger on what that is, right? 557 00:31:08,024 --> 00:31:10,436 That's just a thing. That's a DNA thing. 558 00:31:10,652 --> 00:31:14,402 When Rocco came along, you realized, oh, I can get a phenomenal sex scene. 559 00:31:14,614 --> 00:31:16,821 He will make this girl look really, really good. 560 00:31:17,033 --> 00:31:19,195 He'll make her look better than in any other movie. 561 00:31:19,411 --> 00:31:26,203 Since I was very teeny, very young, I had this kind of fire inside. 562 00:31:26,418 --> 00:31:32,121 I remember I was 13, jerking off, jerking off, jerking off, and the doctor, I remember, 563 00:31:32,340 --> 00:31:35,666 - was very angry, told me, hey, man, stop the jerk off. 564 00:31:35,885 --> 00:31:38,092 Otherwise you never, you will never get better. 565 00:31:38,305 --> 00:31:42,048 His performance was 30 different than anything else. 566 00:31:42,267 --> 00:31:45,931 He never broke eye contact. 567 00:31:51,151 --> 00:31:54,602 Well, my first Boy/Girl scene was with the infamous Rocco Siffredi. 568 00:31:54,821 --> 00:32:00,236 I didn't know his type of scenes, how aggressive they are. 569 00:32:00,452 --> 00:32:05,237 Speaking to me in Italian. It was great 'cause he, he, he made love to me. 570 00:32:05,457 --> 00:32:12,665 You know, I did two movies in french, which was not porn, it was mainstream. 571 00:32:12,881 --> 00:32:14,497 It was an incredible experience. 572 00:32:14,716 --> 00:32:19,217 Catherine come back with the movie, for me as main star. 573 00:32:19,429 --> 00:32:24,465 A gay guy prostitute for the first time make love with a woman. 574 00:32:24,684 --> 00:32:26,300 One of the best experience in my life. 575 00:32:26,519 --> 00:32:33,516 Elegance, style, grace, sexuality, intensity. 576 00:32:33,735 --> 00:32:35,021 I love that guy. 577 00:32:35,236 --> 00:32:39,154 And when you fuck a woman, you put your soul. 578 00:32:39,366 --> 00:32:41,116 You don't fuck the girl just with the dick. 579 00:32:41,159 --> 00:32:45,827 Woman, you need to fuck them in the brain if you want to bring something out of them. 580 00:32:46,039 --> 00:32:47,575 Oh, my god. 581 00:32:49,918 --> 00:32:52,706 In many ways both positive and negative, 582 00:32:52,921 --> 00:32:57,381 - the adult industry mirrors mainstream entertainment. 583 00:32:57,592 --> 00:32:59,879 Like Hollywood, the adult film industry- 584 00:33:00,095 --> 00:33:03,963 - has been correctly criticized for its lack of diversity. 585 00:33:04,182 --> 00:33:08,850 Performers, directors, and producers of color have been too rare in times past. 586 00:33:09,062 --> 00:33:13,931 But today, performers of color are starting to break through more regularly- 587 00:33:14,150 --> 00:33:18,982 - and controlling their own careers both in front and behind the camera. 588 00:33:19,197 --> 00:33:22,189 These next trailblazers made that possible- 589 00:33:22,409 --> 00:33:25,951 - by working through the inherent prejudice in the sex business- 590 00:33:26,162 --> 00:33:29,996 - and forging successful and even legendary careers. 591 00:33:38,174 --> 00:33:44,340 Misty Stone, so she came across as like funny, interesting, vivacious, and cool. 592 00:33:44,556 --> 00:33:45,842 Like totally cool. 593 00:33:46,057 --> 00:33:49,470 And it's really cool to see a woman of color- 594 00:33:49,686 --> 00:33:55,689 - in the industry that's not your typical like 34DD with a gigantic big old booty. 595 00:33:55,900 --> 00:34:01,399 And she's like petite and sensual, and just on fire. 596 00:34:01,614 --> 00:34:03,864 I think I just fell into the adult films. 597 00:34:03,950 --> 00:34:07,847 After awhile, it became more of a career decision because I loved it so much, 598 00:34:07,871 --> 00:34:09,402 - I wanted to be the best at it. 599 00:34:09,414 --> 00:34:12,782 The "Men In Black" parody, that movie was amazing. 600 00:34:13,001 --> 00:34:17,461 The special effects, the makeup was outrageous. 601 00:34:17,672 --> 00:34:23,293 So many girls that do Girl/Girl, like not to spoil the party, are not into Girl/Girl. 602 00:34:23,511 --> 00:34:28,138 I was so nervous, because, you know, like she's, she's my mentor like. 603 00:34:28,349 --> 00:34:30,578 When you kind of get to work with one of your idols, 604 00:34:30,602 --> 00:34:33,185 - you're just like, I hope they're into it. 605 00:34:33,396 --> 00:34:36,354 By the time we were like five minutes into it, 606 00:34:36,566 --> 00:34:40,146 - once we're kissing and stuff, I felt so there with her. 607 00:34:40,361 --> 00:34:43,613 She was one of those girls that would like would flirt before the scene- 608 00:34:43,698 --> 00:34:46,156 - is in the makeup chair feeling on you. 609 00:34:46,409 --> 00:34:48,776 Just really immediately kind of pulling me in. 610 00:34:48,995 --> 00:34:53,205 But now in my personal life, I got to have some dick, baby. 611 00:34:53,416 --> 00:34:55,532 Oh, I'm gonna cum. 612 00:34:55,752 --> 00:34:58,164 Being a ebony model in the business, 613 00:34:58,379 --> 00:35:01,542 - you kind of have a sort of like a different journey in a way, 614 00:35:01,758 --> 00:35:04,090 - you know, because the opportunities are different. 615 00:35:04,302 --> 00:35:06,885 You kind of have to really know how to carry yourself- 616 00:35:07,096 --> 00:35:09,428 - and know how to present yourself to the right people, 617 00:35:09,641 --> 00:35:12,929 - and I feel like misty has done that from the very beginning. 618 00:35:13,144 --> 00:35:15,476 When I started, I was told to follow Misty Stone- 619 00:35:15,688 --> 00:35:18,851 - as a role model, and I'm glad that I have. 620 00:35:19,067 --> 00:35:20,649 It's not based on popularity. 621 00:35:20,860 --> 00:35:23,192 It's, it's, it's based on your skin tone, baby. 622 00:35:23,404 --> 00:35:26,980 Say a new girl coming into the industry, and she's very dark skinned. 623 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:30,066 Well, then you also have another new girl coming in the industry, 624 00:35:30,078 --> 00:35:31,764 - and she's a little bit more lighter skinner. 625 00:35:31,788 --> 00:35:33,849 Well, guess what? That lighter skinned young Lady- 626 00:35:33,873 --> 00:35:36,560 - is gonna get a lot more work than the darker skinner young Lady, 627 00:35:36,584 --> 00:35:37,768 - and that's just how it is. 628 00:35:37,794 --> 00:35:42,079 Now, another example would be, well, we have this young white girl- 629 00:35:42,298 --> 00:35:44,380 - who's gonna get 1,500 for this scene, 630 00:35:44,592 --> 00:35:47,175 - but I think we're gonna give this young black young Lady- 631 00:35:47,387 --> 00:35:50,254 - 800 for the scene, and that's just how it is. 632 00:35:50,473 --> 00:35:53,928 Even our own black people do it to us, and that's even sadder. 633 00:35:54,143 --> 00:35:57,723 That they downgrade us when they should be uplifting us. 634 00:35:57,939 --> 00:35:59,350 She's a character. 635 00:35:59,566 --> 00:36:02,940 I've brought my little sister to a scene, and it was back in the day. 636 00:36:03,152 --> 00:36:05,047 It was my first gangbang I ever did in my whole life. 637 00:36:05,071 --> 00:36:06,732 I just needed support, 638 00:36:06,948 --> 00:36:10,907 - and I thought that that's what family's supposed to do was be there and support you. 639 00:36:11,119 --> 00:36:13,097 But I don't think they're supposed to be there and support you- 640 00:36:13,121 --> 00:36:15,371 - when you're getting gang-banged by six or seven guys. 641 00:36:28,136 --> 00:36:32,425 Vanessa being the first official Latin porn-star. 642 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:33,640 Wow. 643 00:36:33,766 --> 00:36:35,598 She is a true pioneer. 644 00:36:35,810 --> 00:36:41,893 She is a trailblazing superwoman that I have just, I can identify with. 645 00:36:42,108 --> 00:36:46,272 You talk about staying power and star power, she's, I mean, 646 00:36:46,487 --> 00:36:50,651 - she might be one of the most, you know, the more iconic. 647 00:36:50,867 --> 00:36:53,359 And I guess that's also has to do with that Latin heat. 648 00:36:53,578 --> 00:36:55,990 Wild, wild fucking. 649 00:36:56,205 --> 00:36:58,071 Nice, nice, very nice woman. 650 00:36:58,291 --> 00:36:59,577 Cubans are wild. 651 00:36:59,792 --> 00:37:00,792 Mm... 652 00:37:05,506 --> 00:37:09,090 I guess I was, I was like the first woman of color in the business. 653 00:37:09,302 --> 00:37:13,504 They saw that there was a market for it because I became so popular so fast. 654 00:37:13,723 --> 00:37:19,347 She had a following from day one, and she was smart enough to realize it- 655 00:37:19,562 --> 00:37:23,767 - and she was one of the first women to get $1,000 a day, 656 00:37:23,983 --> 00:37:25,894 - which was unheard of at that point. 657 00:37:26,110 --> 00:37:29,978 Most of the women were working for 300, 350, in that neighborhood. 658 00:37:30,198 --> 00:37:32,280 Hey, wait a minute. 659 00:37:32,492 --> 00:37:37,615 He's your husband, and you've got five minutes to finish him off and go home. 660 00:37:37,830 --> 00:37:39,286 I have to go to work. 661 00:37:39,499 --> 00:37:41,115 I did waitress. 662 00:37:41,334 --> 00:37:42,334 I did go-go. 663 00:37:42,543 --> 00:37:44,125 I did stripping. 664 00:37:44,337 --> 00:37:45,498 I did hooking. 665 00:37:45,713 --> 00:37:50,294 I did the whole 42nd street stroll, which was fun. 666 00:37:50,510 --> 00:37:52,922 My first movie was "China Doll." 667 00:37:53,137 --> 00:37:56,675 Vanessa Del Rio, the inventor of the DP. 668 00:37:56,891 --> 00:38:02,014 I'll take the title, but I'm sure that there was double penetration going on before me. 669 00:38:02,230 --> 00:38:04,437 Come on, baby. Stick it in. 670 00:38:04,649 --> 00:38:05,649 Come on. 671 00:38:05,692 --> 00:38:07,228 And I blew the cameraman. 672 00:38:07,443 --> 00:38:08,808 Ooh! 673 00:38:09,028 --> 00:38:11,520 In my first movie. 674 00:38:11,739 --> 00:38:13,525 That's what the '70s was like. 675 00:38:13,741 --> 00:38:18,702 I liked the seedy environment, and the way a peep show smelled, you know, 676 00:38:18,913 --> 00:38:20,495 - with the Clorox and cum. 677 00:38:24,002 --> 00:38:26,994 The live sex shows took place at show world. 678 00:38:27,013 --> 00:38:31,098 David Christopher, I think he had like a bunch of guys and girls, 679 00:38:31,309 --> 00:38:34,552 - like couples that wanted to see a couple fuck. 680 00:38:34,771 --> 00:38:39,184 Just, you know, being surrounded by a bunch of gawkers, you know, men and women. 681 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:43,105 So if you wanna know why my clit was so big, was because I did body building, 682 00:38:43,321 --> 00:38:45,187 - and, yes, I did steroids. 683 00:38:45,406 --> 00:38:48,273 Doing the steroids and the side effects that's I don't recommend. 684 00:38:48,493 --> 00:38:52,612 But having a big clit from it, yeah. What woman wouldn't? 685 00:38:52,831 --> 00:38:54,225 I mean, it looks like a little dick. 686 00:38:54,249 --> 00:38:58,793 I suppose it is perverse, letting them believe I can't speak English and all. 687 00:38:59,003 --> 00:39:01,210 She would only get typecast as the, the maid. 688 00:39:01,422 --> 00:39:04,460 No matter how great she looked, how glamorous. 689 00:39:04,676 --> 00:39:06,838 Very early on, it was a white industry, 690 00:39:07,053 --> 00:39:08,669 - so here I come with my, you know, 691 00:39:08,888 --> 00:39:13,548 - bigger than life like, you know, big hair, and you know, like that. 692 00:39:13,768 --> 00:39:17,306 And so I was noted as first Latina. 693 00:39:17,522 --> 00:39:18,728 Pretty good, no? 694 00:39:20,567 --> 00:39:24,027 Vanessa Del Rio is an inspiration to girls like me in the industry- 695 00:39:24,195 --> 00:39:28,488 - that are of Latin descent, you know, because she didn't let that hold her back. 696 00:39:28,700 --> 00:39:30,065 She owned it. 697 00:39:33,329 --> 00:39:34,785 Oh, yess, yes, yes. 698 00:39:34,998 --> 00:39:39,083 Asa Akira is certainly a character like no other. 699 00:39:43,006 --> 00:39:48,675 30 my first job in the adult entertainment world was as a dominatrix when I was 19 years old. 700 00:39:48,887 --> 00:39:53,513 I was just walking down the street one day, and this guy just stopped me on the street- 701 00:39:53,725 --> 00:39:59,554 - and asked me, would you be interested in being in the adult entertainment industry? 702 00:39:59,772 --> 00:40:02,230 And I was like, yes. 703 00:40:04,110 --> 00:40:07,353 And I followed him upstairs to his dungeon. 704 00:40:07,572 --> 00:40:10,947 The next day, I started training to be a dominatrix. 705 00:40:11,159 --> 00:40:12,159 So I'm really lucky. 706 00:40:12,285 --> 00:40:14,276 I mean, he could have killed me. 707 00:40:14,495 --> 00:40:15,985 That is her 100% of the time. 708 00:40:16,205 --> 00:40:18,321 She has no filter. 709 00:40:18,541 --> 00:40:24,787 She is the beginning of what I feel like what made, made this business step outside the box. 710 00:40:25,006 --> 00:40:29,670 In 2013, I signed an exclusive contract with Wicked Pictures. 711 00:40:29,886 --> 00:40:35,631 Probably the first girl I signed that already was a huge star. 712 00:40:35,850 --> 00:40:41,136 Wicked shoots really beautiful, high budget, like glamorous stuff. 713 00:40:44,317 --> 00:40:47,025 So the AVN awards were one of the few things- 714 00:40:47,236 --> 00:40:54,199 - I actually knew about porn coming in, so it was really exciting to be asked to host the event. 715 00:40:54,410 --> 00:40:58,532 That same night that I hosted the awards, I won Female Performer of The Year. 716 00:40:58,748 --> 00:41:00,580 All: Asa Akira. 717 00:41:00,792 --> 00:41:02,499 Oh, my god. Yes. 718 00:41:02,710 --> 00:41:04,826 I wanted this so fucking bad. 719 00:41:05,046 --> 00:41:09,582 I got this theory that the reasons there are never that many Asian girls 720 00:41:09,801 --> 00:41:13,752 - in the industry at any given time is 'cause for most of us, 721 00:41:13,972 --> 00:41:19,057 - like the second our family finds out, that's it. That's worked out to my advantage. 722 00:41:19,268 --> 00:41:22,556 Like I got to be in a lot of movies as the Asian girl. 723 00:41:22,772 --> 00:41:23,999 And I think that's very wrong. 724 00:41:24,023 --> 00:41:29,481 I think she is very much, whether she was Asian or not is an amazing performer. 725 00:41:29,696 --> 00:41:34,941 And she really is gonna be one of the last big stars of porn. 726 00:41:35,159 --> 00:41:38,652 Like I said, she would go to a shoot to do an anal shoot- 727 00:41:38,871 --> 00:41:41,158 - and end up doing a gangbang by accident. 728 00:41:41,374 --> 00:41:43,456 There was a lot of accidents on her sets, 729 00:41:43,668 --> 00:41:46,751 - but I guess happy accidents for the directors. 730 00:41:46,963 --> 00:41:48,357 You know, like I always tell people 731 00:41:48,381 --> 00:41:50,873 like I'm the best case scenario in porn. 732 00:41:51,092 --> 00:41:54,551 Found love. I've found a career. 733 00:41:54,762 --> 00:41:57,299 Um, I've never been taken advantage of. 734 00:41:57,515 --> 00:41:59,722 Last year I had a memoir published. 735 00:41:59,934 --> 00:42:04,098 Uh, it's titled "insatiable: Porn a love story." 736 00:42:04,313 --> 00:42:07,271 And that's like exactly how I feel about the industry. 737 00:42:07,483 --> 00:42:10,521 It's, it's, it's been a love story. 738 00:42:10,737 --> 00:42:13,900 Um, as cheesy as that sounds. 739 00:42:16,492 --> 00:42:21,077 The modern adult star is a much different breed than those in the past. 740 00:42:21,289 --> 00:42:25,408 25 years ago, tattoos and piercings were taboo. 741 00:42:25,626 --> 00:42:28,084 Sex acts performed in movies- 742 00:42:28,296 --> 00:42:32,290 - rarely included bondage, discipline, or S&M. 743 00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:36,047 Today, some of the biggest adult stars- 744 00:42:36,262 --> 00:42:38,720 - are what we might call alternative. 745 00:42:38,931 --> 00:42:43,383 But even as the alternative blends into mainstream, 746 00:42:43,603 --> 00:42:46,727 - these stars stand out with their unique styles- 747 00:42:46,939 --> 00:42:51,566 - and no fears, no limits approach... To sex. 748 00:42:56,157 --> 00:42:58,398 - You like my blazer? - Oh, yeah. 749 00:42:58,618 --> 00:43:01,280 She was going to make herself a brand, 750 00:43:01,496 --> 00:43:04,158 - and she wanted to shoot hot tattooed girls- 751 00:43:04,373 --> 00:43:09,459 - and alternative styles, which was very different from what you were typically seeing. 752 00:43:09,545 --> 00:43:11,252 Why I think Joanna is such a big star- 753 00:43:11,464 --> 00:43:14,422 - is because that she doesn't try to change her style- 754 00:43:14,634 --> 00:43:16,195 - where it's like, well, they're doing that, 755 00:43:16,219 --> 00:43:17,969 - so we should start doing that. It's like, 756 00:43:18,054 --> 00:43:20,638 - no, this is what works for us. And that's what her fans love. 757 00:43:20,681 --> 00:43:22,922 Joanna angel has always been a person- 758 00:43:23,142 --> 00:43:25,884 - who I've looked up to in the industry. 759 00:43:26,104 --> 00:43:28,636 Someone who started her own business when she was in college. 760 00:43:28,856 --> 00:43:32,603 I don't think it was me that actually came up with burning angel, 761 00:43:32,819 --> 00:43:36,061 - but I did say I wanted some kind of good girl, bad girl thing. 762 00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:38,822 I didn't know anything about porn. I had never watched a porn. 763 00:43:38,950 --> 00:43:40,406 I knew nothing about the industry. 764 00:43:40,618 --> 00:43:42,743 I didn't even really know that porn was an industry. 765 00:43:42,912 --> 00:43:45,825 I mean, this was 13 or 14 years ago. 766 00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:47,874 There was no Twitter, there was no Instagram. 767 00:43:48,084 --> 00:43:50,145 You could not just log on to anywhere on the internet- 768 00:43:50,169 --> 00:43:52,501 - and find out what porn-stars do every day. 769 00:43:52,713 --> 00:43:54,420 So I guess I was the first girl- 770 00:43:54,632 --> 00:43:57,420 - to have her own hardcore video porn site. 771 00:43:57,635 --> 00:43:59,592 So we got a lot of press when we first started. 772 00:43:59,804 --> 00:44:04,848 I wasn't expecting to be a figurehead, for punk and porn and feminism. 773 00:44:05,059 --> 00:44:06,299 I wanted to do everything, 774 00:44:06,519 --> 00:44:09,932 - so the first scene I ever did I had anal sex, 775 00:44:10,148 --> 00:44:13,065 - and that was only like the third time I even did it in my whole life. 776 00:44:14,569 --> 00:44:16,403 It's called: "burning angel.com - the movie"- 777 00:44:16,445 --> 00:44:19,187 - here's what happens when a website becomes a movie. 778 00:44:19,407 --> 00:44:21,774 I don't know if anyone really got it. 779 00:44:21,993 --> 00:44:24,951 So Tommy pistol, it was his first scene and my first scene. 780 00:44:25,163 --> 00:44:28,246 He kept asking me if, if he would have to shave- 781 00:44:28,457 --> 00:44:30,994 - his ass or not if he did the movie. 782 00:44:31,210 --> 00:44:33,497 A lot of the sex that we had- 783 00:44:33,713 --> 00:44:37,206 - was like in places in new york or Brooklyn, 784 00:44:37,425 --> 00:44:39,507 - and sometimes they were out on rooftops- 785 00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:42,427 - or in like in school busses- 786 00:44:42,638 --> 00:44:45,721 - and with a lot of Hasidic Jews walking around- 787 00:44:45,933 --> 00:44:47,475 - wondering what's going on in there? 788 00:44:47,518 --> 00:44:49,018 Something I really love about Joanna- 789 00:44:49,103 --> 00:44:51,970 - is that she has a really great sense of humor. 790 00:44:52,190 --> 00:44:56,941 And so she always brings that piece of herself into her scenes. 791 00:44:57,153 --> 00:44:59,861 Thank you, kind sir. And I'll tell you what. 792 00:45:00,072 --> 00:45:02,313 I'll even let you put it in my butt. 793 00:45:05,620 --> 00:45:09,662 I've now won an AVN award, for best sex comedy three times now. 794 00:45:09,874 --> 00:45:13,037 It's kind of where I've sort of found my comfort zone in porn. 795 00:45:13,252 --> 00:45:18,413 She also picked up on it really early in her career that if she had her own site, 796 00:45:18,633 --> 00:45:22,834 - that she wanted her sites to be the only place you could find Joanna angel fucking. 797 00:45:23,054 --> 00:45:26,718 I really hate the term "Alt Porn," 798 00:45:26,933 --> 00:45:31,811 - but I do realize that everything in porn needs a category. 799 00:45:31,938 --> 00:45:34,680 I got into porn by literally weaseling my way- 800 00:45:34,899 --> 00:45:38,608 - into the porn industry, and I'm still here. 801 00:45:38,819 --> 00:45:40,480 Pick up a camera, shoot something, 802 00:45:40,696 --> 00:45:42,007 - get it out there, you're in porn. 803 00:45:42,031 --> 00:45:43,031 There it is. 804 00:45:44,700 --> 00:45:45,992 Oh, god, I think I'm gonna cum. 805 00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:47,867 I'm gonna cum. 806 00:45:48,079 --> 00:45:53,616 Skin diamond is easily one of the greatest crossover, BDSM, and porn performers. 807 00:45:53,834 --> 00:45:56,121 I think that's probably why so many people like her- 808 00:45:56,337 --> 00:45:58,129 - is because she's not afraid to be herself. 809 00:45:58,297 --> 00:46:02,633 She's just as good at receiving flogging and nipple clamps as she is at taking anal. 810 00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:04,171 She's very exotic. 811 00:46:04,387 --> 00:46:06,003 Like she could be from the future. 812 00:46:06,222 --> 00:46:07,838 She could be from the past. 813 00:46:08,057 --> 00:46:09,099 She could be from Pangia. 814 00:46:09,267 --> 00:46:10,348 I don't know. 815 00:46:10,559 --> 00:46:13,642 Oh, yeah. Oh. 816 00:46:13,854 --> 00:46:15,595 I was born in California, 817 00:46:15,815 --> 00:46:19,891 - but I moved to Scotland when I was three because my dad was a missionary. 818 00:46:20,111 --> 00:46:23,979 I wanted to start modeling nude, 819 00:46:24,198 --> 00:46:25,484 - which was a big deal, 820 00:46:25,700 --> 00:46:27,094 - because at the time, my dad had transitioned- 821 00:46:27,118 --> 00:46:30,405 - from being a missionary to a children's tv show host. 822 00:46:30,621 --> 00:46:33,238 So it was a, a big scandal. 823 00:46:33,457 --> 00:46:36,542 I mean, ten or 20 years ago I don't think somebody could have like- 824 00:46:36,711 --> 00:46:41,079 - built their entire career being alternative looking, I would say. 825 00:46:41,299 --> 00:46:45,375 She understands being a sex worker in a way that a lot of the newer girls don't get. 826 00:46:45,594 --> 00:46:48,757 Not only that, but alternative sex worker by choice. 827 00:46:48,973 --> 00:46:53,759 Coming from the fetish scene, you know, it's, it's a very misunderstood group. 828 00:46:53,978 --> 00:46:58,767 And then all of a sudden, I was in this environment where the dirtier, the better. 829 00:46:58,983 --> 00:47:01,270 Like you wanna do something crazy? Then let's film it. 830 00:47:01,485 --> 00:47:03,444 I had her like kind of all tied up and was like- 831 00:47:03,654 --> 00:47:06,238 - filming her on like a super 8 camera and being really creepy. 832 00:47:06,407 --> 00:47:08,614 And like, I'm gonna be a star. You're my princess. 833 00:47:08,826 --> 00:47:10,743 She's the type of person that you want to fuck. 834 00:47:10,870 --> 00:47:12,079 With a gun. 835 00:47:12,246 --> 00:47:13,830 - No, I'm not lying. - Don't lie to me. 836 00:47:13,873 --> 00:47:15,079 No. 837 00:47:15,291 --> 00:47:16,958 When I first got in, everyone told me to, 838 00:47:17,001 --> 00:47:19,868 - that, again, that my look was too extreme. 839 00:47:20,087 --> 00:47:22,499 But it was actually, it actually worked in my favor, 840 00:47:22,715 --> 00:47:24,956 - I think, because it made me stand out. 841 00:47:25,176 --> 00:47:27,008 I, I think that being a submissive woman- 842 00:47:27,219 --> 00:47:32,634 - is a very empowering thing to do um, because you have to be- 843 00:47:32,850 --> 00:47:37,051 - really tough, and in the fetish world, it's all about consent. 844 00:47:37,271 --> 00:47:38,602 It's not about abuse. 845 00:47:38,814 --> 00:47:42,936 I've been very blessed in that I've gotten a lot of mainstream attention. 846 00:47:43,152 --> 00:47:45,109 I've actually got to do some really cool stuff. 847 00:47:45,321 --> 00:47:46,652 Count to ten. 848 00:47:48,949 --> 00:47:50,781 One. 849 00:47:52,495 --> 00:47:54,281 Two. 850 00:47:55,790 --> 00:47:57,201 Why are you being so gentle? 851 00:47:57,416 --> 00:47:58,747 Oh! 852 00:47:58,959 --> 00:48:02,828 I have a lot of nerdy pleasures, so I did a whole movie- 853 00:48:03,047 --> 00:48:06,289 - where I cos-played different characters from the different worlds. 854 00:48:06,509 --> 00:48:12,129 Wind moving through the leaves, bring me harry potter please. 855 00:48:12,348 --> 00:48:16,348 A few years ago, I was featured in a marvel comic, the new "Daredevil"- 856 00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:19,052 - as the reference model to draw echo. 857 00:48:19,271 --> 00:48:21,353 Pretty, pretty cool. I'm sorry. 858 00:48:21,565 --> 00:48:24,102 I gotta, I gotta hand it to myself. 859 00:48:24,318 --> 00:48:26,309 So against what a lot of the industry- 860 00:48:26,529 --> 00:48:29,237 - considers to be all odds, she's risen further- 861 00:48:29,448 --> 00:48:31,439 - than most people can ever dream of rising. 862 00:48:31,659 --> 00:48:34,276 By showing her true self, 863 00:48:34,495 --> 00:48:38,033 I think she's a, she's kind of, she's kind of my hero for that. 864 00:48:38,249 --> 00:48:44,995 I think it really goes to show how far we've come as human beings right now. 865 00:48:45,214 --> 00:48:52,468 Liking crazy sex isn't as unusual for a girl to like sucking cock. 866 00:48:54,223 --> 00:48:55,509 Are you not his whore? 867 00:49:05,234 --> 00:49:07,775 Both my parents were very religious in the Mormon religion, 868 00:49:07,987 --> 00:49:10,399 - so I kind of grew up with that upbringing. 869 00:49:10,614 --> 00:49:16,241 I transitioned from Jesus to the adult industry by seeking I think validation. 870 00:49:16,454 --> 00:49:18,240 It's refreshing to be around someone- 871 00:49:18,456 --> 00:49:21,790 - that is so comfortable with themselves and who they are- 872 00:49:22,001 --> 00:49:24,459 - that it makes you feel more comfortable with who you are. 873 00:49:24,670 --> 00:49:27,287 She wasn't a fake person in any way, shape or form. 874 00:49:27,506 --> 00:49:30,168 And I hate to say it, but in the porn business, 875 00:49:30,384 --> 00:49:34,214 - sometimes being somewhat fake with your emotions is a necessity. 876 00:49:34,430 --> 00:49:35,670 You think you can handle me? 877 00:49:35,890 --> 00:49:37,255 Yeah, I think so. 878 00:49:37,475 --> 00:49:39,386 I think I can handle you. 879 00:49:39,602 --> 00:49:41,593 I think you need to bend over. 880 00:49:41,812 --> 00:49:44,179 The thing that led to belladonna's popularity, 881 00:49:44,398 --> 00:49:48,482 - I believe, was when Diane sawyer profiled her on "Prime Time Live." 882 00:49:48,694 --> 00:49:52,437 The hatchet job, but people had a lot of empathy for belladonna, 883 00:49:52,656 --> 00:49:54,567 - and that opened the door for her success. 884 00:49:54,783 --> 00:49:57,241 She says afterwards she was shattered, 885 00:49:57,453 --> 00:49:59,490 - but she just didn't know how to refuse. 886 00:49:59,705 --> 00:50:02,413 Because I didn't know any better, you know? 887 00:50:02,625 --> 00:50:06,869 I had these ideas of fame and attention and money. 888 00:50:07,087 --> 00:50:10,588 When she started, if a girl had a tattoo, 889 00:50:10,799 --> 00:50:14,588 - more than half the producers wouldn't even hire the person if they had tattoos. 890 00:50:14,803 --> 00:50:17,929 And by the time she finished, it was a completely different world. 891 00:50:18,140 --> 00:50:23,642 Ahe attention that I was getting from my body was powerful. 892 00:50:23,854 --> 00:50:28,231 You know, it was the first time in my life I felt like, wow, like I am sexy. 893 00:50:28,442 --> 00:50:32,026 I got an opportunity to direct for evil angel. 894 00:50:32,238 --> 00:50:35,571 As a female director who was really the one with the ideas. 895 00:50:35,783 --> 00:50:38,150 Because she could be real in those movies, 896 00:50:38,369 --> 00:50:40,485 - and she was in a safe, comfortable environment. 897 00:50:40,704 --> 00:50:44,113 We were just hanging out and capture what you capture, and that's it. 898 00:50:44,333 --> 00:50:48,413 You know, I had never really thought too much about what I was doing. 899 00:50:48,629 --> 00:50:51,838 I got these opportunities and I did 'em- 900 00:50:52,049 --> 00:50:54,757 - and I was very much in the moment, day to day. 901 00:50:54,969 --> 00:50:59,504 And in the height of DVD sales, belladonna was a top seller week after week. 902 00:51:01,100 --> 00:51:06,352 In the 1970s and early 1980s, when porn was mostly still shown in movie theaters, 903 00:51:06,564 --> 00:51:09,977 - acting was as much a premium as sexual ability. 904 00:51:10,192 --> 00:51:14,610 Some of the greatest actors from the golden age of adult cinema were classically trained. 905 00:51:14,822 --> 00:51:18,773 Appearing in adult films then became an act of rebellion. 906 00:51:18,993 --> 00:51:24,116 Here now are adult cinema's most award worthy dramatic performers. 907 00:51:24,331 --> 00:51:27,959 I am compelled to introduce myself. My name is Johnny Dooropener. 908 00:51:28,127 --> 00:51:31,915 Howdy, Mr. Dooropener. How did you know who I was? 909 00:51:32,131 --> 00:51:35,586 It's my business to know people. John was very innovative. 910 00:51:35,801 --> 00:51:38,042 He was the real deal all day. 911 00:51:38,262 --> 00:51:44,219 He actually could act, and then he could also do a, a sexual performance, and I think- 912 00:51:44,435 --> 00:51:46,597 - to be able to do both was just a pretty rare gift. 913 00:51:46,812 --> 00:51:51,055 Of all the male porn-stars in the '70s, he probably sold the most tickets. 914 00:51:51,275 --> 00:51:53,232 He was the only actor of that era- 915 00:51:53,444 --> 00:51:56,398 - that people came to see because of his acting, and his charisma, 916 00:51:56,614 --> 00:51:58,400 - and he was the Clark Gable of his era. 917 00:51:58,616 --> 00:52:00,510 At that time, there was no material out there, so they had- 918 00:52:00,534 --> 00:52:02,429 - soft-core movies, right, people had soft-core movies, 919 00:52:02,453 --> 00:52:03,818 - let's cut in hardcore footage. 920 00:52:04,038 --> 00:52:09,949 They'd cut from this film of this guy pretending to fuck this girl, soft-core, 921 00:52:10,169 --> 00:52:14,791 - and they'd cut in me fucking the girl, so you get a little in and out. 922 00:52:15,007 --> 00:52:18,499 I did five one day, inserts and cum shots. 923 00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:21,632 Every time you came, they gave you another fucking $50. 924 00:52:21,847 --> 00:52:26,174 And I don't know why they wanted the fourth and fifth one 'cause it was blanks. 925 00:52:26,393 --> 00:52:30,974 He just had a way about him that was '80s charismatic. 926 00:52:31,190 --> 00:52:33,190 I would say he's like the Clint Eastwood of porn. 927 00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:36,017 You just wanted to, to please him. 928 00:52:36,236 --> 00:52:41,022 He had swag and he was sexy, and he was, he was like a ladies man. 929 00:52:41,241 --> 00:52:46,244 And I feel like women wanted him, and men kind of wanted to be him. 930 00:52:46,455 --> 00:52:49,413 Did I give you enough dick? Huh? 931 00:52:49,625 --> 00:52:50,956 I give you enough dick? 932 00:52:51,210 --> 00:52:55,911 He was the original guy to talk dirty to girls to get where he wanted to get. 933 00:52:56,131 --> 00:52:59,544 I bet the police get in your pants all the time, huh? 934 00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:02,923 But you gotta watch those cops. They'll fuck you to death. 935 00:53:03,138 --> 00:53:07,097 - You ever been fucked in the ass before? - Mm-mm. 936 00:53:07,309 --> 00:53:09,971 - Are you curious what it's about? - Mm. 937 00:53:10,187 --> 00:53:13,271 It was, it was fun, it was mostly fun because we were best friends. 938 00:53:13,482 --> 00:53:16,899 The last two weeks he was alive, he was hanging at joey's, 939 00:53:17,111 --> 00:53:20,604 - and, uh, they just understood each other. 940 00:53:20,823 --> 00:53:23,780 Well, to be honest, I wish john was even more, 941 00:53:23,992 --> 00:53:25,778 - uh, had more of an impact than he was. 942 00:53:25,994 --> 00:53:32,123 That's a big problem with this business is that when you are gone in this business, you are gone. 943 00:53:36,755 --> 00:53:43,088 I mean, anybody that can do ten pages of script, four costume changes, 944 00:53:43,303 --> 00:53:49,257 - and three sex scenes in a ten-hour day, you know, goes to the top of the list. 945 00:53:49,476 --> 00:53:51,454 - Oh, yeah, fuck her. - No, I don't think I will. 946 00:53:51,478 --> 00:53:53,685 Oh, fuck her like you fuck me, Nick. 947 00:53:53,897 --> 00:53:57,310 Making films was a lot different then, and it was huge. 948 00:53:57,526 --> 00:54:01,651 Like we would have big red carpet premieres, and you would go into a theater. 949 00:54:01,864 --> 00:54:05,523 And if it was a good movie, you could run six weeks, two months, 950 00:54:05,743 --> 00:54:11,370 - playing the same movie at a theater. I thought, wow. I could act. 951 00:54:11,582 --> 00:54:13,539 All my friends from college weren't acting. 952 00:54:13,751 --> 00:54:16,163 I could get paid for it, and I could have sex. 953 00:54:16,378 --> 00:54:18,164 It was like, oh, yeah. 954 00:54:18,380 --> 00:54:20,462 You always carry around girl's underpants? 955 00:54:20,674 --> 00:54:21,914 Yeah, I collect them. 956 00:54:22,134 --> 00:54:23,966 Maybe I can give you some of mine sometime. 957 00:54:24,178 --> 00:54:27,091 Veronica came across as more intelligent. 958 00:54:27,306 --> 00:54:33,385 She came across as more capable, and her scenes came off as very genuine. 959 00:54:33,604 --> 00:54:36,773 One of the most favorite roles that I've ever had was in "Amanda by Night." 960 00:54:36,857 --> 00:54:39,770 Can you fucking believe that? 961 00:54:39,985 --> 00:54:42,192 Oh, no, no. 962 00:54:42,404 --> 00:54:45,654 Another reason why I really liked that movie is I actually won best actress. 963 00:54:45,866 --> 00:54:48,028 Now if I could ask you a question. 964 00:54:48,243 --> 00:54:50,075 Why did your last coordinator leave? 965 00:54:50,287 --> 00:54:52,015 She wasn't putting out, uh, she wasn't putting out- 966 00:54:52,039 --> 00:54:53,433 - the kinds of results that we were looking for. 967 00:54:53,457 --> 00:54:55,039 Mm-hmm. 968 00:54:56,543 --> 00:55:00,252 You do have, uh, quite an employment history. 969 00:55:00,464 --> 00:55:01,900 "Wanda Whips Wall Street." 970 00:55:01,924 --> 00:55:03,540 What a fun movie that was. 971 00:55:03,759 --> 00:55:06,421 They actually made a straight film out of it- 972 00:55:06,637 --> 00:55:09,095 - called "Stocks and Blondes." We went back and re-shot. 973 00:55:09,306 --> 00:55:13,174 You know, Lester, I don't usually go out with men from the office, 974 00:55:13,393 --> 00:55:15,805 - but seeing as you're from Tyler's Cleveland branch, 975 00:55:16,021 --> 00:55:18,137 - I thought I'd make an exception. 976 00:55:18,357 --> 00:55:24,985 Veronica became the quintessential sex goddess, and the actress. 977 00:55:25,197 --> 00:55:29,065 And she was still managed to maintain the feeling- 978 00:55:29,284 --> 00:55:32,072 - that she was your girlfriend or the friend of your sister's. 979 00:55:32,287 --> 00:55:37,823 I did 13 movies one year, and they told me I had ruined my career. 980 00:55:38,043 --> 00:55:41,536 And what it did, it just made me more well known. 981 00:55:41,755 --> 00:55:43,792 People have a lot to say about this business, 982 00:55:44,007 --> 00:55:47,212 - but where else can a female do so many things? 983 00:55:47,427 --> 00:55:49,197 I mean, I've done about everything in the business. 984 00:55:49,221 --> 00:55:51,132 I was able to act, I was able to direct, 985 00:55:51,348 --> 00:55:55,345 - I could produce, I'd been a stylist, I'm still a production manager. 986 00:55:55,561 --> 00:55:58,228 Where else? I know the straight business wouldn't afford me that. 987 00:55:58,313 --> 00:56:05,772 In a career sense, good actress, sexy gal, somebody that you could, uh, 988 00:56:05,988 --> 00:56:08,400 - jerk off to and not feel bad about, 989 00:56:08,615 --> 00:56:11,357 - but made you feel good about being a sexual human being- 990 00:56:12,995 --> 00:56:16,950 And who really wanted to connect, and really wanted to spread love. 991 00:56:18,876 --> 00:56:22,460 Jamie was absolutely the icon of all time. 992 00:56:22,671 --> 00:56:27,790 And he's one of the pioneers of modern pornography, a complete and total deviant. 993 00:56:28,010 --> 00:56:32,720 Creepy, dirty, nasty, sexy behavior. 994 00:56:32,931 --> 00:56:36,674 He was able somehow to, to make it classy. 995 00:56:40,147 --> 00:56:43,139 Happened pretty quickly, because once I started working, 996 00:56:43,358 --> 00:56:47,685 - uh, it was like an avalanche after about a year, you know, maybe a year. 997 00:56:47,905 --> 00:56:50,216 It was like all of a sudden, I was the guy, you know, that, 998 00:56:50,240 --> 00:56:55,068 - I mean, there was one point in new york where I counted 14 of my films playing in one day. 999 00:56:55,287 --> 00:57:00,452 It's amazing to me that somebody who is famous in the end- 1000 00:57:00,626 --> 00:57:05,791 - for showing the raw, real side of their sexuality is also an amazing actor. 1001 00:57:06,006 --> 00:57:10,591 You know, you pulled off quite a neat little trick with that fantasy of yours. 1002 00:57:10,802 --> 00:57:13,590 - Does that feel good? - Yeah, it's just sex. 1003 00:57:13,805 --> 00:57:15,139 I am pretty dirty, though, girls. 1004 00:57:15,349 --> 00:57:16,680 You'll have to work hard. 1005 00:57:16,892 --> 00:57:18,508 Repent! 1006 00:57:18,727 --> 00:57:20,513 You must repent! 1007 00:57:20,729 --> 00:57:22,345 God! Please forgive me! 1008 00:57:22,564 --> 00:57:24,667 To me, sex was a big drug, if you want to call it that. 1009 00:57:24,691 --> 00:57:26,352 I was really interested in the sex. 1010 00:57:26,568 --> 00:57:31,315 The idea that people were getting, drinking or taking pills to, to, you know, 1011 00:57:31,531 --> 00:57:35,261 - forget the experience they were having on the set, you know, or maybe they felt bad about it. 1012 00:57:35,285 --> 00:57:36,660 I don't know what they were doing. 1013 00:57:36,787 --> 00:57:38,139 To me it didn't, it didn't make any sense to me. 1014 00:57:38,163 --> 00:57:41,406 You know, I was really after the, the piece of ass I was gonna fuck. 1015 00:57:41,625 --> 00:57:43,957 Men, women, I don't think it mattered to him. 1016 00:57:44,169 --> 00:57:46,661 Jamie Gillis may have said at times that he was bisexual, 1017 00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:50,502 - but I think the only label you could put on Jamie Gillis is pervert. 1018 00:57:50,717 --> 00:57:55,837 Jamie, um, Gillis would not fly. 1019 00:57:56,056 --> 00:58:01,550 I remember it was on a TWA flight, and we're gonna take off, 1020 00:58:01,770 --> 00:58:04,762 - and Jamie tells me that he has a tremendous fear of flying. 1021 00:58:04,982 --> 00:58:07,440 And then he reaches down, he pulls out a baggie- 1022 00:58:07,651 --> 00:58:11,269 - that's got panties in it and he says, this is for my black, black ore. 1023 00:58:11,488 --> 00:58:13,091 The plane starts rolling down the runway. 1024 00:58:13,115 --> 00:58:17,150 Jamie opens up the bag, and he starts, he starts huffing on it, the bag, 1025 00:58:17,369 --> 00:58:21,453 - and the smell from the bag was so horrendous and so putrid, it was insane. 1026 00:58:21,665 --> 00:58:23,059 I mean, that was Jamie. He was a pervert, 1027 00:58:23,083 --> 00:58:25,520 - so sniffing the panties, that was like crack cocaine to him. 1028 00:58:25,544 --> 00:58:30,208 "Dracula Sucks," that was the role he was meant to play. 1029 00:58:30,424 --> 00:58:34,509 The blood is the life- 1030 00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:38,675 - there are far worse things awaiting man than death. 1031 00:58:38,890 --> 00:58:43,967 In my heyday, I was maybe working maybe one or two days a week. 1032 00:58:44,187 --> 00:58:46,021 The rest of the time, I was just hanging out, 1033 00:58:46,106 --> 00:58:48,313 - you know, and I was making enough money- 1034 00:58:48,525 --> 00:58:50,107 - and I wasn't even, what was that? 1035 00:58:50,318 --> 00:58:51,353 You call that work? 1036 00:58:51,570 --> 00:58:53,006 You know, a garbage man, that's work. 1037 00:58:53,030 --> 00:58:55,237 And to have a career that lasts that long, 1038 00:58:55,449 --> 00:58:57,440 - to be so innovative, and to really express- 1039 00:58:57,659 --> 00:59:02,532 - who you truly are as a sexual being to me is something to be envied. 1040 00:59:10,505 --> 00:59:13,507 Annette definitely looked like she would be in the mainstream movies. 1041 00:59:13,717 --> 00:59:16,301 She definitely did not look like she was in the adult industry. 1042 00:59:16,470 --> 00:59:18,179 She could've been a Victoria secret model. 1043 00:59:18,388 --> 00:59:20,846 She was just so fetching and a wonderful actress- 1044 00:59:21,058 --> 00:59:24,221 - and serious as a heart attack and a great businesswoman. 1045 00:59:24,436 --> 00:59:28,100 The most amazing thing for me about Annette haven- 1046 00:59:28,315 --> 00:59:33,650 - is, um, not just like how beautiful she is, but also how kind of innocent she is. 1047 00:59:33,862 --> 00:59:41,067 She combined like this very ethereal personality, look, and so forth with the sex. 1048 00:59:41,286 --> 00:59:45,029 And, uh, she was one of the first where, 1049 00:59:45,248 --> 00:59:47,956 - where her name became, you know, a name. 1050 00:59:48,168 --> 00:59:50,660 I wasn't aware of how popular I was. 1051 00:59:50,879 --> 00:59:52,213 I have never been aware of that. 1052 00:59:52,380 --> 00:59:54,997 I've never been aware of how beautiful I am. 1053 00:59:55,217 --> 01:00:01,178 I remember being in la. In the summer of '77, and "desires within young girls"- 1054 01:00:01,389 --> 01:00:04,767 - making more money at the box office than over half of Hollywood. 1055 01:00:04,810 --> 01:00:06,266 I was in slot 14. 1056 01:00:06,478 --> 01:00:09,391 Mel Brooks' "Young Frankenstein" was in slot 17. 1057 01:00:14,986 --> 01:00:19,897 Annette, uh, was always perceived as a feminist, and she still is. 1058 01:00:20,117 --> 01:00:24,197 As far as I know, I am the only person in adult films- 1059 01:00:24,412 --> 01:00:27,279 - who did not do any of the degrading acts. 1060 01:00:27,499 --> 01:00:30,617 The facial ejaculation, because I don't want- 1061 01:00:30,836 --> 01:00:34,878 - that represented to the American public as adult sexuality. 1062 01:00:35,090 --> 01:00:37,132 You know what's interesting about Annette is that- 1063 01:00:37,300 --> 01:00:39,009 - you would almost kind of not expect her- 1064 01:00:39,219 --> 01:00:41,836 - to be a very good actress just based off of the fact- 1065 01:00:42,055 --> 01:00:44,262 - that she didn't have an acting background. 1066 01:00:44,474 --> 01:00:46,556 But she is so good. 1067 01:00:46,768 --> 01:00:48,102 You said you'd give me a chance. 1068 01:00:48,311 --> 01:00:49,580 Aren't you forgetting something? 1069 01:00:49,604 --> 01:00:51,595 "Sports Life" is a man's magazine. 1070 01:00:51,815 --> 01:00:53,101 But that's just it, you see, 1071 01:00:53,316 --> 01:00:54,983 - we get all the women's readership, too. 1072 01:00:55,026 --> 01:00:56,812 Finding people who could speak, 1073 01:00:57,028 --> 01:00:59,736 - who were beautiful, who had beautiful bodies, 1074 01:00:59,948 --> 01:01:02,073 - blah, blah, blah, it was a bit difficult, I guess. 1075 01:01:08,039 --> 01:01:09,905 Blake Edwards approached me for "10." 1076 01:01:10,125 --> 01:01:14,122 Blake was very nice, and invited me down to Hollywood. 1077 01:01:14,337 --> 01:01:17,375 He said, can you get me people who are naked? And I said, oh, yeah. 1078 01:01:17,591 --> 01:01:22,255 So I was the casting agent, and the production manager for the party scene. 1079 01:01:22,470 --> 01:01:26,763 There was something, uh, just wonderful to watch- 1080 01:01:26,975 --> 01:01:29,842 - Annette Haven on film having sex. 1081 01:01:30,061 --> 01:01:32,415 We all have to pretend, what, our mommies didn't have sex. 1082 01:01:32,439 --> 01:01:34,931 Every last one of our mommies had sex. 1083 01:01:35,150 --> 01:01:37,391 Hopefully they enjoyed it. 1084 01:01:39,070 --> 01:01:40,560 I want you to let me see your tits. 1085 01:01:45,493 --> 01:01:47,430 How and when did I meet Richard Pacheco? 1086 01:01:47,454 --> 01:01:51,197 I think it was some point in the early '80$. 1087 01:01:51,416 --> 01:01:55,211 When he said that he was writing a book, he said, will you write the forward? 1088 01:01:55,253 --> 01:01:57,671 And I said I would. He is family. 1089 01:01:57,714 --> 01:01:59,421 He's a nice Jewish boy. 1090 01:01:59,633 --> 01:02:01,217 You could take him home to mom I think. 1091 01:02:01,384 --> 01:02:07,095 I had plans of becoming a rabbi, and they happened at the same time, 1092 01:02:07,307 --> 01:02:09,548 - uh, I had my first offer to be in a porn film. 1093 01:02:09,768 --> 01:02:10,974 So I had a decision to make. 1094 01:02:11,186 --> 01:02:16,604 Richard's motivation was to be an actor, uh, much more than a, a sex performer. 1095 01:02:16,816 --> 01:02:22,899 By far, Richard Pacheco is the greatest male actor in adult film history. 1096 01:02:23,114 --> 01:02:27,532 Cupid, draw back your bow, and let your arrow- 1097 01:02:27,744 --> 01:02:30,406 - go straight to my lover's heart for me. 1098 01:02:30,622 --> 01:02:33,990 When I met him, I was kind of freaked out- 1099 01:02:34,167 --> 01:02:40,420 - because my mom and I enjoyed "Playgirl" magazine, and we had his pinup. 1100 01:02:40,632 --> 01:02:44,629 In the 1980s, if Hollywood didn't put a scarlet letter- 1101 01:02:44,844 --> 01:02:47,971 - around the adult industry, he would have been the first actor- 1102 01:02:48,014 --> 01:02:51,392 - to cross over and actually do adult, and then do mainstream films, 1103 01:02:51,476 --> 01:02:52,716 - like James Deen does now. 1104 01:02:52,936 --> 01:02:57,263 Richard Pacheco won best supporting actor, for "nothing to hide," uh, 1105 01:02:57,482 --> 01:03:00,190 - because he portrayed somebody that was, uh, slow. 1106 01:03:00,402 --> 01:03:03,820 But he was really sweet, too, and it was a very romantic little storyline. 1107 01:03:04,030 --> 01:03:05,361 I love her. 1108 01:03:05,573 --> 01:03:07,385 Well, I love Miss Fernstein the landlord, too. 1109 01:03:07,409 --> 01:03:09,326 That doesn't mean I'm gonna marry her, does it? 1110 01:03:09,452 --> 01:03:10,680 It's not the same thing, jack, and you know it. 1111 01:03:10,704 --> 01:03:12,411 Fuck love, man! What are you, a sucker? 1112 01:03:12,622 --> 01:03:15,705 "Irresistible" was “Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure." 1113 01:03:15,875 --> 01:03:17,334 They must have taken cues from that. 1114 01:03:17,502 --> 01:03:20,415 There were so many different parallels with that. 1115 01:03:20,630 --> 01:03:22,416 What province are you from? 1116 01:03:22,632 --> 01:03:25,124 You probably haven't heard of it. 1117 01:03:25,343 --> 01:03:26,708 It's called Marin county. 1118 01:03:28,888 --> 01:03:30,950 They gave me Best Actor and Best Supporting Actor. 1119 01:03:30,974 --> 01:03:32,590 And, wow. Wow. 1120 01:03:32,809 --> 01:03:34,299 Thank you, Jesus. That was a coup. 1121 01:03:34,519 --> 01:03:39,013 It's ironic that porn-stars were discredited- 1122 01:03:39,232 --> 01:03:42,683 - because they were fucking, 'cause you can't fake fucking. 1123 01:03:42,902 --> 01:03:47,063 You really got to be there, and that's a tremendous achievement- 1124 01:03:47,282 --> 01:03:49,819 - to get yourself real enough to be able to do that. 1125 01:03:50,035 --> 01:03:52,777 Do I think he would've made it as a straight actor? 1126 01:03:52,996 --> 01:03:54,862 Probably, you know, 'cause he's really good. 1127 01:03:55,081 --> 01:03:56,321 He knows how to improvise. 1128 01:03:56,541 --> 01:03:58,000 He knows how to be a straight actor. 1129 01:03:58,084 --> 01:03:59,415 He knows these things. 1130 01:03:59,627 --> 01:04:01,586 I think that's what makes him one of the greats. 1131 01:04:03,131 --> 01:04:05,247 Some adult stars gain even greater fame- 1132 01:04:05,467 --> 01:04:08,505 - by crossing over into mainstream entertainment. 1133 01:04:08,720 --> 01:04:11,963 Sometimes a scandal worked in their favor. 1134 01:04:12,182 --> 01:04:16,008 Other times, great marketing, or an inherently irresistible appeal- 1135 01:04:16,227 --> 01:04:21,097 - bridged the gap between sex stardom, and pop culture acclaim. 1136 01:04:21,316 --> 01:04:24,058 These stars blasted right through barriers- 1137 01:04:24,277 --> 01:04:28,277 - separating the adult business from big time show business. 1138 01:04:35,622 --> 01:04:38,656 Of those big three, Linda Lovelace, Georgina Spelvin, 1139 01:04:38,875 --> 01:04:41,833 - Marilyn Chambers, Marilyn clearly stands out. 1140 01:04:42,045 --> 01:04:43,331 The camera loved her. 1141 01:04:43,546 --> 01:04:47,547 But she had this girl next door like innocent look- 1142 01:04:47,759 --> 01:04:50,467 - that not many girls in porn back then had. 1143 01:04:50,678 --> 01:04:53,636 Well, I answered an ad in the San Francisco "Chronicle"- 1144 01:04:53,848 --> 01:04:57,261 - that said, now casting for a major motion picture. 1145 01:04:57,477 --> 01:05:00,344 I thought, oh, this is a little bit too naughty for me. 1146 01:05:00,563 --> 01:05:03,726 She thought that if she did a good job in this movie- 1147 01:05:03,942 --> 01:05:06,684 - it would lead to a lot of mainstream roles for her- 1148 01:05:06,903 --> 01:05:08,860 - because it would show that she could act. 1149 01:05:09,072 --> 01:05:11,780 But also, the amount of money they were offering was like, mm. 1150 01:05:11,991 --> 01:05:14,278 You know, they're like we really like your look. 1151 01:05:14,494 --> 01:05:15,950 Just sit down and talk with us. 1152 01:05:16,162 --> 01:05:19,121 And so she actually negotiated with them, and said that she would do it, 1153 01:05:19,207 --> 01:05:21,824 - but only under the circumstances 1154 01:05:22,043 --> 01:05:25,035 - that they give her, um, ten percent of the film's gross revenue, 1155 01:05:25,255 --> 01:05:28,373 - which is huge, you know, like that's insane. 1156 01:05:28,591 --> 01:05:30,903 And I said I don't really wanna know what's gonna happen. 1157 01:05:30,927 --> 01:05:33,134 I know it's gonna be wild and sexy, 1158 01:05:33,346 --> 01:05:37,840 - and it's gonna be scary probably for me at certain times, but I don't wanna know. 1159 01:05:38,059 --> 01:05:42,310 When we started to have sex, it was the kind of thing where I was like totally freaked out. 1160 01:05:42,522 --> 01:05:44,125 I didn't think I was gonna be able to do this one. 1161 01:05:44,149 --> 01:05:48,938 Then it, there was a moment where it turned from terror, hah, to pleasure, 1162 01:05:49,154 --> 01:05:51,896 - and I really believe you can see that. 1163 01:05:52,115 --> 01:05:55,483 The controversy between me being on the ivory soap box, 1164 01:05:55,702 --> 01:05:56,908 - it was a pr man's dream. 1165 01:05:57,120 --> 01:06:00,307 It just happened to be the very same week that "Behind the Green Door" opened in the theaters. 1166 01:06:00,331 --> 01:06:03,119 So it was just, thank you. 1167 01:06:03,334 --> 01:06:05,701 And Procter & Gamble wasn't real happy about it. 1168 01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:09,663 My favorite scene is the pool table scene in "Insatiable." 1169 01:06:09,883 --> 01:06:11,465 I could tell that it was a hot scene- 1170 01:06:11,676 --> 01:06:15,006 - because when the crew applauds you, you know that it's good. 1171 01:06:20,477 --> 01:06:24,596 "Insatiable" was one of those quintessential movies. 1172 01:06:24,814 --> 01:06:29,850 Rich girl who is a model, and she just had this sexual appetite- 1173 01:06:30,069 --> 01:06:32,026 - that nobody could satisfy. 1174 01:06:32,238 --> 01:06:37,608 I devote myself to all men, and a lot of women. 1175 01:06:37,827 --> 01:06:39,363 She wrote a song for it, 1176 01:06:39,579 --> 01:06:42,821 - for the movie she did, "Insatiable," and she actually sang it. 1177 01:06:43,041 --> 01:06:45,123 It's the song that plays behind the titles. 1178 01:06:45,335 --> 01:06:47,292 She did some modeling beyond that. 1179 01:06:47,504 --> 01:06:50,628 She even did dinner theater in Las Vegas, for about a year. 1180 01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:55,462 Believe it or not, the mayor of Las Vegas gave her the key to the city. 1181 01:06:55,678 --> 01:06:59,262 I don't know what it used to be like to hire an adult actor in a mainstream type movie. 1182 01:06:59,307 --> 01:07:00,784 I don't know if that was a big stigma that people had to get over. 1183 01:07:00,808 --> 01:07:02,219 I assume it must have been. 1184 01:07:02,435 --> 01:07:05,852 The biggest one I remember is when Marilyn Chambers was in Cronenberg's film. 1185 01:07:06,064 --> 01:07:09,397 And he cast her as the lead in his movie "Rabid." 1186 01:07:09,609 --> 01:07:11,316 You gotta come quick. 1187 01:07:11,528 --> 01:07:13,064 You gotta come quick and get me. 1188 01:07:13,279 --> 01:07:15,520 And of course that had never happened before. 1189 01:07:15,740 --> 01:07:19,069 This was the first time someone who had been a porn-star, 1190 01:07:19,285 --> 01:07:23,365 - who was well known as a porn-star was cast in a major mainstream movie. 1191 01:07:23,581 --> 01:07:25,184 Being Marilyn Chambers has always been kind of, 1192 01:07:25,208 --> 01:07:29,961 - not a facade, because I've always believed that you have to be that person 24 hours a day. 1193 01:07:30,046 --> 01:07:33,830 You have to really believe in what you're doing, which I have, and I've had a lot of fun. 1194 01:07:34,050 --> 01:07:36,007 But now that I have a daughter. 1195 01:07:36,219 --> 01:07:40,420 Learning all of that was kind of scary at first, because like I said, 1196 01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:43,007 - my mom is my mom, not Marilyn chambers to me. 1197 01:07:43,226 --> 01:07:44,842 So knowing everything that she's done- 1198 01:07:45,061 --> 01:07:48,304 - and my friends knowing the things that she's done, 1199 01:07:48,523 --> 01:07:50,855 - um, is was pretty hard to get used to. 1200 01:07:51,067 --> 01:07:53,855 But there were some funny times where I'd see her name on HBO- 1201 01:07:54,070 --> 01:07:55,631 - and she'd come running out and say like, close your eyes. 1202 01:07:55,655 --> 01:07:57,020 Don't watch that. 1203 01:07:57,240 --> 01:07:59,607 I just don't want her to follow in my footsteps. 1204 01:07:59,826 --> 01:08:04,653 In the end like I'm just so proud of her, and she knew that, so that was my only concern. 1205 01:08:04,872 --> 01:08:09,200 I'm not gonna say that I created porno chic, but I know that I was part of it. 1206 01:08:09,419 --> 01:08:11,461 And that was a very important time in our history- 1207 01:08:11,504 --> 01:08:13,754 - where people like Johnny Carson were waiting in line- 1208 01:08:13,965 --> 01:08:16,049 - to see “Deep Throat" and "Behind the Green Door." 1209 01:08:16,134 --> 01:08:18,922 And I truly believe that it's not educational, 1210 01:08:19,137 --> 01:08:24,052 - but it certainly can be very helpful in kind of helping your sex life. 1211 01:08:24,267 --> 01:08:26,008 It helped mine. 1212 01:08:31,774 --> 01:08:35,733 He's not, you know, sort of like the hulking male porn-star. 1213 01:08:35,945 --> 01:08:40,443 Of the '90s with like the, you know, like thong tan lines and stuff like huge pecs. 1214 01:08:40,658 --> 01:08:46,160 And he's just this guy, the kind of guy that you would have a crush on in chemistry class. 1215 01:08:46,372 --> 01:08:47,453 That's him. 1216 01:08:47,665 --> 01:08:49,952 He's the Justin Bieber of porn. 1217 01:08:56,633 --> 01:08:59,069 So my whole life is I wanna do porn, I wanna do porn, I wanna do porn. 1218 01:08:59,093 --> 01:09:05,051 It wasn't a new thing when I turned 18 to, you know, tell my parents. 1219 01:09:05,266 --> 01:09:07,016 So once I explained all this to my parents, 1220 01:09:07,226 --> 01:09:08,746 - and then also reminded them that I still have my money- 1221 01:09:08,770 --> 01:09:10,104 - from when I got bar mitzvahed. 1222 01:09:10,313 --> 01:09:13,563 Like I, I'm not the type of guy who's gonna think, oh, I made a bunch of money. 1223 01:09:13,608 --> 01:09:17,313 I'm gonna go buy a Ferrari and a solid gold house, and like get a rocket car. 1224 01:09:17,528 --> 01:09:18,589 That's also a "Simpson's" reference. 1225 01:09:18,613 --> 01:09:21,813 I met James when he was, I believe he was 18 years old. 1226 01:09:22,033 --> 01:09:23,489 I mean, he was just good. 1227 01:09:23,701 --> 01:09:25,346 I mean, we went through the entire scene, 1228 01:09:25,370 --> 01:09:27,264 - and then he popped, and I was like, oh, shit. 1229 01:09:27,288 --> 01:09:28,891 We've got to go through and do the stills. 1230 01:09:28,915 --> 01:09:30,059 And he was like: "That's cool. 1231 01:09:30,083 --> 01:09:31,539 I'm young and spry. 1232 01:09:31,751 --> 01:09:33,037 I can get some more out." 1233 01:09:33,252 --> 01:09:36,665 So... and he did, which was outstanding. 1234 01:09:41,469 --> 01:09:45,115 In 2009, I became the youngest person to ever win male performer of the year- 1235 01:09:45,139 --> 01:09:47,096 - from AVN, which is a very prestigious award. 1236 01:09:47,308 --> 01:09:48,924 All: James Deen. 1237 01:09:51,396 --> 01:09:56,105 I had a panic attack, ran and hid, and my girlfriend at the time accepted the award for me. 1238 01:09:56,317 --> 01:09:58,604 James, where the fuck are you? 1239 01:09:58,820 --> 01:10:01,278 I have heard of the Deen-agers. 1240 01:10:01,489 --> 01:10:03,651 Deen-agers is invented by Dana Dearmond. 1241 01:10:03,866 --> 01:10:07,160 She was the one who coined that term, so let's give credit where credit is due. 1242 01:10:07,203 --> 01:10:09,490 Because he's such a relatable guy, 1243 01:10:09,706 --> 01:10:13,698 - and he's young enough for, you know, young girls to be attracted to him. 1244 01:10:13,918 --> 01:10:16,897 What's funny to be me is there are scenes that I've done with him- 1245 01:10:16,921 --> 01:10:20,834 - and I'll get tagged because he's in the scene, and the Deen-agers love James Deen, 1246 01:10:21,050 --> 01:10:23,542 - and I just happened to be an extra body in the room. 1247 01:10:23,761 --> 01:10:29,506 I feel like people are trying to create more of that "Boy and Girl Next Door" look. 1248 01:10:29,726 --> 01:10:33,267 But when I first started in 2004, it was all about performance. 1249 01:10:33,479 --> 01:10:35,146 It had nothing to do with guys or props. 1250 01:10:35,273 --> 01:10:37,685 We don't care what you look like, you know. 1251 01:10:37,900 --> 01:10:39,561 Like why the hell, who's looking at you? 1252 01:10:39,777 --> 01:10:41,518 I have no desire to do mainstream stuff. 1253 01:10:41,738 --> 01:10:43,945 "The Canyons"? Hell, yeah. 1254 01:10:44,157 --> 01:10:46,908 You have Bret Easton Ellis, who's an incredibly talented writer- 1255 01:10:46,993 --> 01:10:49,430 - and you have Paul Schrader who's an incredibly talented director- 1256 01:10:49,454 --> 01:10:53,412 - and they were like so sick of the standard Hollywood structure of, you know, 1257 01:10:53,624 --> 01:10:55,227 - all the stuff, and they wanted to do a DIY film- 1258 01:10:55,251 --> 01:10:57,354 - that was just for the sake of making a fucking film. 1259 01:10:57,378 --> 01:10:59,415 - Jealous? - Yeah, 1260 01:10:59,630 --> 01:11:02,622 - if there are other people involved. Like guys. 1261 01:11:02,842 --> 01:11:07,845 It's mostly girls, and, no, I do not get jealous watching my girl hook up with another chick. 1262 01:11:07,889 --> 01:11:09,550 Is this guy for real? Are you for real? 1263 01:11:09,766 --> 01:11:12,303 Which is the most flattering thing in the world- 1264 01:11:12,518 --> 01:11:14,455 - that the guy that wrote "American Psycho" and "Less Than Zero"- 1265 01:11:14,479 --> 01:11:16,220 - wrote a character for me. 1266 01:11:16,439 --> 01:11:21,433 I mean, sometimes these, these, you know, people in adult will get like this sort of taste- 1267 01:11:21,652 --> 01:11:26,696 - of mainstream attention and decide that they're, they're gonna move on and start this whole new life. 1268 01:11:26,908 --> 01:11:28,844 Adult films are not a launching pad into mainstream. 1269 01:11:28,868 --> 01:11:30,404 It's just not. 1270 01:11:30,620 --> 01:11:33,703 I think there's this stigma that people in adult films, 1271 01:11:33,915 --> 01:11:35,374 - they do this 'cause they have to- 1272 01:11:35,541 --> 01:11:37,227 - or they do this because they have nothing else- 1273 01:11:37,251 --> 01:11:39,993 - or, or, and they forget that we're performers, 1274 01:11:40,213 --> 01:11:44,207 - just like The Rock and Vin Diesel are action performers. 1275 01:11:44,425 --> 01:11:48,293 Being famous in the adult industry is useless. 1276 01:11:48,513 --> 01:11:50,845 Being a good performer is what matters. 1277 01:11:59,165 --> 01:12:00,451 She was Vivid. 1278 01:12:00,625 --> 01:12:03,538 They signed her to be the face of the company. 1279 01:12:03,753 --> 01:12:05,994 She was on every box cover. 1280 01:12:06,214 --> 01:12:10,549 Well, there was no such thing as a contract girl until Ginger came along. 1281 01:12:10,760 --> 01:12:14,298 She is definitely a matriarch in the business. 1282 01:12:14,514 --> 01:12:16,033 I think she's the beautiful girl next door. 1283 01:12:16,057 --> 01:12:17,682 I do. I think she's that girl next door- 1284 01:12:17,725 --> 01:12:19,703 - that you've had that crush on for a really long time- 1285 01:12:19,727 --> 01:12:22,890 - and then all of a sudden just kind of came into her own sexually. 1286 01:12:23,106 --> 01:12:27,106 And you definitely wanted to bang the shit out of her, and she never had time for you. 1287 01:12:37,120 --> 01:12:40,454 I walked into, uh, Jim South's office. He was my agent. 1288 01:12:40,665 --> 01:12:42,747 Uh, you don't have a portfolio? 1289 01:12:42,959 --> 01:12:45,200 Oh, no. I had my shots in high school. 1290 01:12:45,420 --> 01:12:47,036 And I tell him, okay, I'm gonna do it. 1291 01:12:47,255 --> 01:12:48,899 And I want this much money and I want script approval- 1292 01:12:48,923 --> 01:12:51,026 - and I want cast approval. He's on the floor rolling. 1293 01:12:51,050 --> 01:12:52,675 He said you're not gonna start that way. 1294 01:12:53,887 --> 01:12:55,127 Lunch is served. 1295 01:12:56,806 --> 01:12:59,138 I got all my demands met, and I started thinking, 1296 01:12:59,350 --> 01:13:01,637 - oh, my god. What if I can't do this? 1297 01:13:05,899 --> 01:13:08,516 My very first film was "Surrender in Paradise." 1298 01:13:08,735 --> 01:13:10,066 I was fine fucking on film. 1299 01:13:10,278 --> 01:13:12,394 Could not get the dialogue to come out of my mouth. 1300 01:13:12,614 --> 01:13:15,151 We spent about four hours trying to do it. 1301 01:13:15,366 --> 01:13:17,107 And I thought you might be different. 1302 01:13:17,327 --> 01:13:20,656 Like all the other guys, get what you want and chuck me out. 1303 01:13:20,872 --> 01:13:23,580 So Steven Hirsch was starting vivid entertainment, 1304 01:13:23,791 --> 01:13:26,203 - actually at that time, it was called vivid video, 1305 01:13:26,419 --> 01:13:31,004 - and they wanted me to be the star of all of their first films. 1306 01:13:32,634 --> 01:13:35,468 Every day I would wake up and go, yes! I'm gonna blow this guy today. 1307 01:13:35,637 --> 01:13:37,364 I'm gonna eat that pussy today. I'm gonna do this. 1308 01:13:37,388 --> 01:13:38,799 And it was exciting for me. 1309 01:13:39,015 --> 01:13:41,757 If you stuck with it, if you became a pro, 1310 01:13:41,976 --> 01:13:44,538 - hell, I don't think there's anybody that could even come close to you. 1311 01:13:44,562 --> 01:13:46,098 Do I look okay? 1312 01:13:46,314 --> 01:13:47,349 You look great. 1313 01:13:52,612 --> 01:13:55,570 "New Wave Hookers" was an amazing film. 1314 01:13:55,782 --> 01:13:58,615 Stick your tongue in up my ass hole and lick it. 1315 01:14:01,204 --> 01:14:03,491 Girls next door didn't do double penetration. 1316 01:14:03,706 --> 01:14:06,664 I was, I was the girl next door who did all the dirty things. 1317 01:14:06,876 --> 01:14:09,334 I've done more mainstream than I have adult at this point. 1318 01:14:09,546 --> 01:14:11,002 I need to pee! 1319 01:14:15,176 --> 01:14:17,292 - What about my hands? - What about 'em? 1320 01:14:17,512 --> 01:14:19,054 - How am I gonna wipe? - I'll help ya. 1321 01:14:19,180 --> 01:14:21,296 So I did "Vice Academy" one, two, and three. 1322 01:14:21,516 --> 01:14:25,851 And each of you must make ten arrests in order to get a position on the force. 1323 01:14:26,062 --> 01:14:29,346 My father says that my badge and uniform are already waiting for me. 1324 01:14:29,566 --> 01:14:31,168 So I like hiring people where they already- 1325 01:14:31,192 --> 01:14:34,275 - come with their weird baggage of their career or life. 1326 01:14:34,487 --> 01:14:39,524 So as soon as they walk on screen, you know, be it a Ginger Lynn or a Danny Trejo, 1327 01:14:39,742 --> 01:14:41,403 - you go, somethin's goin' on there. 1328 01:14:41,619 --> 01:14:44,361 She showed up on crutches, which was kind of a surprise. 1329 01:14:44,581 --> 01:14:48,500 My introduction to Sid Haig was just being plopped on on his dirty tighty whities. 1330 01:14:48,710 --> 01:14:51,293 - Yes, yes, yes. - Come on, baby. 1331 01:14:51,504 --> 01:14:54,872 Oh, oh, oh, ride it, baby. Ride it, ride it, ride it. 1332 01:14:55,091 --> 01:14:56,707 She started it all. 1333 01:14:56,926 --> 01:15:00,464 I mean, without her, there could not have been 1334 01:15:00,680 --> 01:15:04,806 - strong names like Chasey Lain, and Jenna Jameson. 1335 01:15:04,976 --> 01:15:06,341 She is the number one. 1336 01:15:06,561 --> 01:15:09,053 There are very few women like her. 1337 01:15:09,272 --> 01:15:10,603 Do it! 1338 01:15:10,815 --> 01:15:13,273 Yeah. 1339 01:15:13,484 --> 01:15:14,484 Uh-huh. 1340 01:15:14,527 --> 01:15:15,813 Yeah. 1341 01:15:16,029 --> 01:15:18,111 Oh, slam it. Slam that cunt for me. 1342 01:15:18,323 --> 01:15:19,438 Ugh! Yeah! 1343 01:15:19,657 --> 01:15:25,118 I felt like I could watch her, and see the emotion- 1344 01:15:25,330 --> 01:15:27,412 - not just in her face, but in her body. 1345 01:15:27,624 --> 01:15:29,956 Janine is super hot. 1346 01:15:30,168 --> 01:15:32,125 Like super hot, like supermodel hot. 1347 01:15:32,337 --> 01:15:37,047 I asked my husband if he was okay with it, and we agreed that women only. 1348 01:15:37,258 --> 01:15:40,216 She knew how to turn it on. She'd been in front of audiences- 1349 01:15:40,428 --> 01:15:41,884 - for a long time as a dancer. 1350 01:15:42,096 --> 01:15:46,224 In blondage, they did their routine, it was so hot, like I was completely turned on. 1351 01:15:47,977 --> 01:15:51,853 And then they go backstage, and then they do their real scene- 1352 01:15:52,065 --> 01:15:55,811 - in the behind the scenes, and I was like, yeah, yeah. 1353 01:16:03,660 --> 01:16:06,244 The drugs, the alcohol involved with porn. 1354 01:16:06,371 --> 01:16:14,243 During that time, there was, and I would partake, and it was not a pretty sight. 1355 01:16:14,462 --> 01:16:17,250 You will sink hard and fast if you go down that road. 1356 01:16:17,465 --> 01:16:23,168 She is the person that made porn feel not only super mainstream, 1357 01:16:23,388 --> 01:16:25,925 - but she was kind of like the rockstar of porn. 1358 01:16:26,140 --> 01:16:27,175 Blink 182. 1359 01:16:27,392 --> 01:16:29,133 That has got to be my highlight. 1360 01:16:29,352 --> 01:16:30,968 It brought in the youth. 1361 01:16:31,187 --> 01:16:32,769 So the Vince Neil sex tape. 1362 01:16:32,980 --> 01:16:37,937 It was rough, because at this time, I hadn't shot anything with men. 1363 01:16:38,152 --> 01:16:40,894 But, you know, it was a shocker at first. 1364 01:16:41,114 --> 01:16:45,611 I find it interesting that she comes back- 1365 01:16:45,827 --> 01:16:50,071 - as like this like beast of a sexual woman. 1366 01:16:50,289 --> 01:16:51,289 She does dudes. 1367 01:16:51,457 --> 01:16:53,664 She does interracial. 1368 01:16:53,876 --> 01:16:56,368 Please? Please please me. 1369 01:16:56,587 --> 01:16:57,879 Finally I said fuck it. 1370 01:16:58,089 --> 01:16:59,923 I'm gonna go for it, and this is what I want. 1371 01:17:00,007 --> 01:17:01,714 These are my fantasies. 1372 01:17:01,926 --> 01:17:07,713 And that's when I think a lot of like the passionate scenes that I had in "Pirates," you know... 1373 01:17:07,932 --> 01:17:11,934 Um, that intensity was really starting to come out. 1374 01:17:16,899 --> 01:17:18,685 I wouldn't change a thing. 1375 01:17:18,901 --> 01:17:23,687 At the time, there was a lot of glamour and a lot of fun, and a lot of camaraderie. 1376 01:17:23,906 --> 01:17:26,489 That was, that was a good time. 1377 01:17:26,701 --> 01:17:29,693 Yes, yes, yes, yes. 1378 01:17:29,912 --> 01:17:31,118 Oh, my god. 1379 01:17:31,330 --> 01:17:34,288 Fuck. Yes, yes. 1380 01:17:34,500 --> 01:17:36,353 I'd like to think I was political before, and that was- 1381 01:17:36,377 --> 01:17:38,835 - a large part of my motivation getting into the industry- 1382 01:17:39,046 --> 01:17:45,379 - was to disprove the status quo about women, uh, and, and, and female sexuality. 1383 01:17:47,722 --> 01:17:51,514 The more I watched porn, the more I realized that this is something I could do- 1384 01:17:51,684 --> 01:17:55,018 - and, and maybe I could bring something different to it as well. 1385 01:17:56,522 --> 01:17:59,472 When Sasha Grey first contacted me, this is what she wrote me. 1386 01:17:59,692 --> 01:18:02,309 "I hunger for all modes of sexual perversity." 1387 01:18:02,528 --> 01:18:05,737 I'm determined and ready to be a commodity that fulfills everyone's fantasies. 1388 01:18:05,865 --> 01:18:10,904 Available for solo, stills, girl/girl, boy/girl, boy/boy/girl, 1389 01:18:11,120 --> 01:18:14,700 - DP, double vag, interracial, throat gagging, 1390 01:18:14,916 --> 01:18:20,456 - creampies, BDSM, fetish, facials, "bachelor parties, and groups of no more than four." 1391 01:18:20,671 --> 01:18:22,662 She's cool. 1392 01:18:22,882 --> 01:18:24,748 Sasha is, is deep. 1393 01:18:24,967 --> 01:18:28,092 We're remaking "Deep Throat," so I want to meet her. 1394 01:18:28,304 --> 01:18:30,136 The new "Deep Throat" is a huge movie. 1395 01:18:30,348 --> 01:18:33,952 It's important. It's the biggest movie, you know, this company has ever made. 1396 01:18:33,976 --> 01:18:40,146 It took us a long time to decide who could really pull it off, and it's Sasha. 1397 01:18:40,358 --> 01:18:43,850 Steven Soderbergh looked her up, and found the Myspace page. 1398 01:18:44,070 --> 01:18:45,481 Contacted her through that. 1399 01:18:45,696 --> 01:18:51,942 I didn't want anybody other than Sasha, for "Girlfriend Experience." 1400 01:18:52,161 --> 01:18:54,027 Once I'd spoken to her, 1401 01:18:54,247 --> 01:18:56,784 - I really felt I wanted to build it around her, 1402 01:18:56,999 --> 01:19:02,244 - and I sort of cast everybody else based on what I was getting from her. 1403 01:19:02,463 --> 01:19:06,460 I'm very familiar with his work, and it was flattering, to be honest, 1404 01:19:06,676 --> 01:19:08,792 - uh, but also extremely intimidating. 1405 01:19:09,011 --> 01:19:11,002 He's an incredibly intelligent human being. 1406 01:19:11,222 --> 01:19:16,220 I found this, it's kind of a really interesting dichotomy with her of, of- 1407 01:19:16,435 --> 01:19:22,814 - middle American upbringing, and sort of extreme interest and extreme behavior. 1408 01:19:23,025 --> 01:19:26,897 Whatever method she found of reconciling these two things, 1409 01:19:27,113 --> 01:19:29,480 - seemed to be working for her. 1410 01:19:29,699 --> 01:19:33,608 He told me it would be mostly improv, and wanted me to be comfortable with that. 1411 01:19:33,828 --> 01:19:35,318 So how did it go? 1412 01:19:35,538 --> 01:19:38,656 It was fine. We had a nice dinner. 1413 01:19:40,084 --> 01:19:42,451 You know, went back to the hotel. 1414 01:19:42,670 --> 01:19:48,336 But he's very well-endowed, and sometimes I just can't handle him that long. 1415 01:19:48,551 --> 01:19:55,464 The change, I think, largely via the internet about people's attitudes about pornography 1416 01:19:55,683 --> 01:20:01,352 - or just, just sex videos in general has just completely shifted in the last ten years. 1417 01:20:01,564 --> 01:20:08,147 Making that leap from doing hardcore porn to shooting mainstream movies 1418 01:20:08,362 --> 01:20:13,277 - with very well known people is, is almost impossible. 1419 01:20:13,492 --> 01:20:15,824 She was like Garbo-esque. 1420 01:20:16,037 --> 01:20:19,867 So I said, well, if this is any time to take the jump, this is it, and I did it quietly. 1421 01:20:20,082 --> 01:20:21,493 It wasn't this big announcement. 1422 01:20:21,709 --> 01:20:23,996 I'm not leaving anything behind. I haven't found Jesus. 1423 01:20:24,211 --> 01:20:27,124 I'm not trying to run away from anything. I'm just moving on. 1424 01:20:27,340 --> 01:20:28,924 What made her a great porn-star? 1425 01:20:29,050 --> 01:20:33,259 Besides the fact that she was really good looking, she was a pervert, 1426 01:20:33,471 --> 01:20:36,880 - and nobody could bullshit her, because she was like usually smarter- 1427 01:20:37,099 --> 01:20:38,683 - than most of the people shooting her. 1428 01:20:40,603 --> 01:20:43,061 Some names are bigger than others. 1429 01:20:43,272 --> 01:20:48,103 And the top two greatest adult stars of all time share one thing in common, 1430 01:20:48,319 --> 01:20:50,686 - they're erotic icons. 1431 01:20:50,905 --> 01:20:53,488 They check every box for what makes a legend. 1432 01:20:53,699 --> 01:20:55,315 Longevity? Check. 1433 01:20:55,534 --> 01:20:58,492 Mainstream popularity? Double check. 1434 01:20:58,704 --> 01:21:00,945 Sexual prowess? Check. 1435 01:21:01,165 --> 01:21:02,371 Looks? 1436 01:21:02,583 --> 01:21:06,250 Well, women of the '70s and '80s found him very handsome, 1437 01:21:06,462 --> 01:21:09,079 - and men still drool over her. 1438 01:21:09,298 --> 01:21:12,878 There are no two bigger names in the history of adult cinema 1439 01:21:13,094 --> 01:21:17,963 - than our greatest male and female adult stars of all time. 1440 01:21:18,182 --> 01:21:19,388 ♪ You're a winner ♪“ 1441 01:21:19,600 --> 01:21:21,307 ♪ That's what you are ♪ 1442 01:21:21,519 --> 01:21:22,975 ♪ Believe it or not ♪ 1443 01:21:23,187 --> 01:21:24,803 ♪ You know ♪ ♪ You're really a star ♪ 1444 01:21:25,022 --> 01:21:26,808 ♪ And so happy... ♪ 1445 01:21:27,024 --> 01:21:28,377 Let's talk about fame. 1446 01:21:28,401 --> 01:21:31,818 Uh, most famous guy in porn worldwide has gotta be Ron Jeremy. 1447 01:21:32,029 --> 01:21:35,613 Without ever having had a publicist, 1448 01:21:35,825 --> 01:21:39,238 without every having had an agent or a manager, 1449 01:21:39,453 --> 01:21:47,166 - has managed to become the most famous pop culture icon. 1450 01:21:47,378 --> 01:21:48,994 I mean, he transcends porn. 1451 01:21:49,213 --> 01:21:51,796 People don't think of Ron Jeremy as a porn-star. 1452 01:21:52,008 --> 01:21:55,467 People think of Ron Jeremy as a famous person. 1453 01:21:55,678 --> 01:21:57,294 I was there in the golden era, 1454 01:21:57,513 --> 01:22:00,701 - that's what they call it, the golden era, I was there right smack in the middle of it. 1455 01:22:00,725 --> 01:22:02,285 I was going back and forth, L.A. to New York. 1456 01:22:02,309 --> 01:22:07,141 I heard that his dick was so big that he actually could like, you know, go on himself. 1457 01:22:07,356 --> 01:22:09,393 Go suck yourself off, she says. 1458 01:22:09,608 --> 01:22:10,973 Charming. 1459 01:22:11,193 --> 01:22:13,130 I first got into porn thinking I'd just be in it- 1460 01:22:13,154 --> 01:22:15,361 - for maybe just a couple of weeks, a few months. 1461 01:22:15,573 --> 01:22:17,484 See what it's like and then get out. 1462 01:22:19,452 --> 01:22:21,577 So I started doing all the bigger films in New York. 1463 01:22:24,248 --> 01:22:27,164 "Bad Girls" had a cute little story where I was a boy scout. 1464 01:22:27,376 --> 01:22:29,037 Hello. 1465 01:22:29,253 --> 01:22:30,789 Oh, my goodness! 1466 01:22:31,005 --> 01:22:32,336 - Please. - What do you want? 1467 01:22:32,548 --> 01:22:34,539 I'd like some of that pussy, if you don't mind. 1468 01:22:34,759 --> 01:22:39,426 So he's infiltrated media in like all its forms, mainstream and porn. 1469 01:22:39,638 --> 01:22:41,094 And he's fantastic. 1470 01:22:41,307 --> 01:22:42,388 He's a really good actor. 1471 01:22:42,600 --> 01:22:45,718 He's like the essential ham. 1472 01:22:45,936 --> 01:22:50,137 As an actor, when he's awake, great performance. 1473 01:22:50,357 --> 01:22:52,064 Adam Rifkin is the nicest guy I know- 1474 01:22:52,276 --> 01:22:54,337 - and the greatest guy I know, and I have to say this- 1475 01:22:54,361 --> 01:22:56,568 - or he'll stop giving me parts in movies, 1476 01:22:56,781 --> 01:22:59,593 - the guy is easy and he's been more loyal than anybody on the planet. 1477 01:22:59,617 --> 01:23:03,989 I made this movie called "Detroit Rock City," and obviously to play the emcee- 1478 01:23:04,205 --> 01:23:08,119 - at the male strip club was an easy one. 1479 01:23:08,334 --> 01:23:10,450 That was our viking, Patrick Hirsch, 1480 01:23:10,669 --> 01:23:12,564 - and he's hung like a Norse. 1481 01:23:12,588 --> 01:23:16,173 Our next amateur has a name like a bird, and if you like birds, you'll like this. 1482 01:23:16,217 --> 01:23:17,673 It's just a swallow. 1483 01:23:17,885 --> 01:23:19,780 I'd never heard of him before I got in the industry. 1484 01:23:19,804 --> 01:23:24,180 I saw him on MTV, uh, when he was doing a reality tv show. 1485 01:23:24,391 --> 01:23:27,892 And that's the impression I had of him, not as a sexpert, just him being funny. 1486 01:23:28,104 --> 01:23:32,042 I have a feeling there're gonna be a lot of people who are dead set against- 1487 01:23:32,066 --> 01:23:35,858 - what I do for a living, maybe religious, could be born again, you know. 1488 01:23:36,070 --> 01:23:37,672 So I have a gut feeling that I'm gonna come across- 1489 01:23:37,696 --> 01:23:40,779 - some adversarial opinions as to my career choices. 1490 01:23:40,991 --> 01:23:43,699 In "Orgazmo," we do a martial art fight. 1491 01:23:43,911 --> 01:23:46,369 At the end, he gets the Orgazmo's gun on me, 1492 01:23:46,580 --> 01:23:51,119 - and I freeze up, kicks me in the head, my head literally blows up. 1493 01:23:51,335 --> 01:23:57,251 "Boon Dock Saints" is by far the biggest thing I've ever done as far as an audience. 1494 01:23:57,466 --> 01:24:00,254 Sit the fuck down. 1495 01:24:00,469 --> 01:24:02,961 All these stars, when they see Ron Jeremy, 1496 01:24:03,180 --> 01:24:05,700 - they drop whatever they do, I've seen it, drop whatever they do. Oh, my god. 1497 01:24:05,724 --> 01:24:06,910 Get a picture with Ron Jeremy. 1498 01:24:06,934 --> 01:24:08,720 Kurt Cobain and Courtney Love- 1499 01:24:08,936 --> 01:24:11,456 - went running over to him for an autograph when they saw him. 1500 01:24:11,480 --> 01:24:14,768 George Bush, Sr. was walking the other way having, 1501 01:24:14,984 --> 01:24:16,818 - he was just President of The United States, 1502 01:24:16,902 --> 01:24:21,820 - as they're passing, he hears George bush say, hello, Ron. 1503 01:24:22,032 --> 01:24:25,650 That's why I attribute my longevity to just a lot of hard work, 1504 01:24:25,870 --> 01:24:27,829 - a lot of classical movies from the golden era, 1505 01:24:27,913 --> 01:24:32,032 - and also a lot of mainstream. It's amazing for all the things- 1506 01:24:32,251 --> 01:24:35,960 - that Ron Jeremy has seen and done in his life, 1507 01:24:36,172 --> 01:24:38,789 - how he manages to maintain a sense of innocence. 1508 01:24:39,008 --> 01:24:42,922 And I swear to you, he is a, he's like an innocent kid- 1509 01:24:43,137 --> 01:24:48,843 - in the body of this... Hideous monster. 1510 01:24:49,059 --> 01:24:50,871 Listen, I'm gonna say goodbye now while I kiss these nipples. 1511 01:24:50,895 --> 01:24:53,390 Look how and they're cold, they stick out even more. 1512 01:24:57,735 --> 01:24:59,726 Why is Jenna so popular? 1513 01:24:59,945 --> 01:25:02,312 She was maybe not even arguably- 1514 01:25:02,531 --> 01:25:06,149 - the most successful, the most well marketed, 1515 01:25:06,368 --> 01:25:09,326 - the best selling porn-star of all time. 1516 01:25:09,538 --> 01:25:12,200 Jenna might've had a little bit of that Ginger Lynn thing- 1517 01:25:12,416 --> 01:25:16,034 - where she just looked so young and sweet and innocent- 1518 01:25:16,253 --> 01:25:19,621 - and looked like the last place she should be- 1519 01:25:19,840 --> 01:25:21,501 - was looking to get into this business. 1520 01:25:21,717 --> 01:25:26,427 And I thought I could do it better, you know. 1521 01:25:26,639 --> 01:25:33,180 I just always felt that way all my life, that I was capable of topping everyone. 1522 01:25:33,395 --> 01:25:36,061 That's the shot you'd see in your magazine, folks, right there. 1523 01:25:36,273 --> 01:25:38,389 Yeah. 1524 01:25:40,694 --> 01:25:42,059 Yeah. 1525 01:25:42,279 --> 01:25:44,111 I read Jenna Jameson's book 1526 01:25:44,323 --> 01:25:45,823 "How to make love like a porn-star," 1527 01:25:45,908 --> 01:25:49,860 - and I, I was so attracted to the industry from those pages. 1528 01:25:50,079 --> 01:25:53,663 Jenna and I shot our first movie on the same day. 1529 01:25:53,874 --> 01:25:57,037 - I'm Kylie. - And I'm Jenna. I'm 19. 1530 01:25:57,253 --> 01:26:01,583 'Cause, I mean, here's little Jenna, and she's a little blonde, perfect little tiny boobs, 1531 01:26:01,799 --> 01:26:03,335 - and she was asking me about mine. 1532 01:26:03,550 --> 01:26:04,945 She's like, where'd you get yours? They're great. 1533 01:26:04,969 --> 01:26:06,926 What doctor did them? 1534 01:26:07,137 --> 01:26:09,219 I'm like don't touch those. Those are perfect. 1535 01:26:09,431 --> 01:26:11,172 Look, back in '95, 1536 01:26:11,392 --> 01:26:15,181 - while the business was starting to go through a growth, 1537 01:26:15,396 --> 01:26:18,514 - it was still only two years into Wicked Pictures. 1538 01:26:18,732 --> 01:26:22,808 I just said, listen, you can either jump on the Jenna train- 1539 01:26:23,028 --> 01:26:25,190 - or I'm out, and this is what I want. 1540 01:26:25,406 --> 01:26:28,899 Give it to me and I will skyrocket. 1541 01:26:29,118 --> 01:26:30,483 We signed Jenna, 1542 01:26:30,703 --> 01:26:35,576 - and it didn't take very long for Jenna to become the big deal. 1543 01:26:37,751 --> 01:26:40,826 Even then, you knew that Jenna was gonna be something big. 1544 01:26:41,046 --> 01:26:43,037 She'd already started to climb that ladder, 1545 01:26:43,257 --> 01:26:47,000 - and she was already Jenna vs. Jenna Jameson. 1546 01:26:47,219 --> 01:26:50,632 I just had larger than life ideas. 1547 01:26:50,848 --> 01:26:54,973 Jenna was winning Best Actress, Best Sex Scene, Starlet of the Year. 1548 01:26:55,185 --> 01:26:56,926 One of her movies we did won Best Film. 1549 01:26:57,146 --> 01:27:00,184 So it was really a quick ride. 1550 01:27:00,399 --> 01:27:03,482 I was starting to gain momentum. 1551 01:27:03,694 --> 01:27:06,402 I knew I was capable of so much more. 1552 01:27:06,613 --> 01:27:10,447 She was everywhere. 1553 01:27:10,659 --> 01:27:13,868 Again, she was not just on the porn sets. 1554 01:27:14,079 --> 01:27:15,820 She was in movies. 1555 01:27:16,040 --> 01:27:21,918 You have to be a stripper with a take no prisoners raw survival instinct. 1556 01:27:23,339 --> 01:27:25,797 She was on talk shows. 1557 01:27:26,008 --> 01:27:27,498 I can't believe it. 1558 01:27:27,718 --> 01:27:29,654 I'm looking at your pictures. You could be a model. 1559 01:27:29,678 --> 01:27:31,043 Thank you. 1560 01:27:31,163 --> 01:27:34,372 By this time, she already knew what was going on. 1561 01:27:34,583 --> 01:27:37,575 She knew how to light things and she knew how to direct- 1562 01:27:37,795 --> 01:27:39,689 - and she knew the kind of scenes that she wanted to do. 1563 01:27:39,713 --> 01:27:41,078 She owned all that. 1564 01:27:41,298 --> 01:27:47,092 This ls a male dominated industry, and I can crack it open. 1565 01:27:47,304 --> 01:27:49,966 I started my own company, club Jenna. 1566 01:27:50,182 --> 01:27:53,015 I think Jenna Jameson was super business savvy, 1567 01:27:53,227 --> 01:27:57,971 - and she, you know, had a whole idea of how her career was gonna go- 1568 01:27:58,190 --> 01:28:04,819 - and exactly the moves she was going to make in order for her to have longevity in adult- 1569 01:28:05,030 --> 01:28:11,321 - and also to make tons and tons of money at a time in the business, when, you know, it was opportune. 1570 01:28:11,537 --> 01:28:14,575 I shot my own movies for my company, 1571 01:28:14,790 --> 01:28:18,704 - and I also did a licensing! Distribution deal with Vivid, 1572 01:28:18,919 --> 01:28:20,205 - which was ground breaking, 1573 01:28:20,421 --> 01:28:24,588 like changed things for the whole industry when they saw those numbers. 1574 01:28:24,800 --> 01:28:30,090 Then I got to direct her in, in uh, "The Masseuse," of course, 1575 01:28:30,306 --> 01:28:31,512 - and "Devil in Miss Jones," 1576 01:28:31,724 --> 01:28:33,761 - and two of the best movies I've ever done. 1577 01:28:33,976 --> 01:28:36,092 Well, things are about to change. 1578 01:28:37,646 --> 01:28:40,638 You can have anything you want. 1579 01:28:40,858 --> 01:28:42,098 Oh... 1580 01:28:48,032 --> 01:28:50,273 She became somewhat of a control freak. 1581 01:28:50,492 --> 01:28:52,904 I felt myself like ramping up. 1582 01:28:53,120 --> 01:28:55,908 I was like, okay, I'm starting to get this. 1583 01:28:56,123 --> 01:28:58,660 She got so much adulation so quickly. 1584 01:28:58,876 --> 01:29:01,743 I couldn't go anywhere without people screaming my name. 1585 01:29:01,962 --> 01:29:05,000 And she didn't handle it as well as she might have. 1586 01:29:05,215 --> 01:29:07,297 It was, it kind of blew my mind. 1587 01:29:07,509 --> 01:29:10,627 I saw her become a caricature of herself. 1588 01:29:10,846 --> 01:29:14,589 It was like being Julia Roberts when she got her Oscar, you know. 1589 01:29:14,808 --> 01:29:18,517 She seemed to start to become less happy. 1590 01:29:18,729 --> 01:29:20,686 I played the part. 1591 01:29:20,898 --> 01:29:22,730 I worked it. I brought glamour. 1592 01:29:22,941 --> 01:29:25,808 I never did anything half-ass. 1593 01:29:26,028 --> 01:29:30,108 I think it was the right girl, the right time, 1594 01:29:30,324 --> 01:29:34,449 - the right company, and all things were aligned, and it worked. 1595 01:29:34,661 --> 01:29:36,953 Do I think it's possible to do that again on that level? 1596 01:29:37,081 --> 01:29:38,537 I don't. 1597 01:29:38,749 --> 01:29:41,707 I think she is probably the biggest star of all time- 1598 01:29:41,919 --> 01:29:44,502 - because I don't think that can happen again. 1599 01:29:46,173 --> 01:29:50,383 It's fair to say this list is far from complete. 1600 01:29:50,594 --> 01:29:52,881 Dozens of other larger than life legends- 1601 01:29:53,097 --> 01:29:55,213 - deserve to have their stories told, 1602 01:29:55,432 --> 01:29:58,174 - performers who've contributed to the adult industry- 1603 01:29:58,394 --> 01:30:02,728 - in unique and important ways, many of whom continue to. 1604 01:30:02,940 --> 01:30:04,851 But when it comes to the modern porn industry, 1605 01:30:05,067 --> 01:30:07,729 - which began in actual movie theaters five decades ago- 1606 01:30:07,945 --> 01:30:11,404 - and continues on hand-held devices today, 1607 01:30:11,615 --> 01:30:17,152 - these are the stars who have shined the brightest, and rocked us the hardest. 1608 01:30:17,371 --> 01:30:18,827 I'm Mr. Skin. 1609 01:30:19,039 --> 01:30:20,200 Good night. 1610 01:30:27,172 --> 01:30:28,662 Woman excellent. 1611 01:30:28,882 --> 01:30:30,293 I'm the best clapper ever. 1612 01:30:30,509 --> 01:30:32,420 Nice. 1613 01:30:32,636 --> 01:30:36,254 I have spent quite a bit of time with ginger. 1614 01:30:36,473 --> 01:30:38,714 She will never cease to chase me around- 1615 01:30:38,934 --> 01:30:42,973 - with a dildo or a strap-on or taking off my clothes, 1616 01:30:43,188 --> 01:30:45,270 - and that's, that's ginger. 1617 01:30:46,733 --> 01:30:48,644 I hated those scarves. 1618 01:30:48,861 --> 01:30:50,397 The scarves were provided. 1619 01:30:50,612 --> 01:30:56,482 There's enough cum on those scarves to start a whole new population of people. 1620 01:30:56,702 --> 01:31:00,115 Something that I've never revealed about myself. 1621 01:31:00,330 --> 01:31:01,616 I have a big giant penis. 1622 01:31:01,832 --> 01:31:04,039 It's just, it's tucked inside my vagina. 1623 01:31:04,251 --> 01:31:05,585 That's what I was gonna tell you. 1624 01:31:05,627 --> 01:31:06,627 Is it good? 1625 01:31:06,670 --> 01:31:07,455 Come on. 1626 01:31:07,671 --> 01:31:08,877 I mean, you know, DP? 1627 01:31:09,089 --> 01:31:10,381 That's kind of a natural thing. 1628 01:31:10,591 --> 01:31:14,128 If there's another guy in the picture, you know, you got the extra hole. 1629 01:31:15,637 --> 01:31:17,253 And she was a wild girl. 1630 01:31:17,473 --> 01:31:19,965 Cubans are wild. Don't you know Cubans? 1631 01:31:20,184 --> 01:31:22,642 They got that nice round ass and they're wild, man. 1632 01:31:22,853 --> 01:31:24,969 My famous line was, you know, 1633 01:31:25,189 --> 01:31:28,102 You wanna twat sandwich, baby? 1634 01:31:28,317 --> 01:31:30,809 Where she had the biggest clit and the largest pussy lips- 1635 01:31:31,028 --> 01:31:35,230 - at that particular time, which, I'm a freak, and so that immediately- 1636 01:31:35,449 --> 01:31:39,901 - got me fanatically involved with like sucking and swallowing them down. 1637 01:31:40,120 --> 01:31:43,078 I had a pimp, which he got paid 40%. 1638 01:31:43,290 --> 01:31:46,248 I took 60 'cause I had to get a boyfriend out of jail. 1639 01:31:46,460 --> 01:31:47,575 So I'm used to those days. 1640 01:31:47,794 --> 01:31:49,284 Hippie girls, hair under their arms, 1641 01:31:49,505 --> 01:31:51,712 - all that kind of stuff. Hair all over their legs. 1642 01:31:51,924 --> 01:31:54,008 You couldn't see the pussy. It was all like a tree. 1643 01:31:54,134 --> 01:31:57,631 You had to like take a rake and like rake it out to get even to see anything. 1644 01:31:57,846 --> 01:32:00,213 And each scene was connected, not separate scenes. 1645 01:32:00,432 --> 01:32:03,140 Everything flowed like a river or something. 1646 01:32:03,352 --> 01:32:05,519 - And a lot of pubic hairs. - They were all so hairy. 1647 01:32:05,562 --> 01:32:07,974 Pubic hair. There was a lot of hair. 1648 01:32:08,190 --> 01:32:13,184 And she had pubic hair. 1649 01:32:13,403 --> 01:32:16,271 And lots of it. I was just gonna say that. 1650 01:32:16,490 --> 01:32:19,323 The first time I had a strange dick in my hairy pussy. 1651 01:32:19,535 --> 01:32:20,946 It was the '80s. 1652 01:32:21,161 --> 01:32:22,764 I'd probably been in the business a few months. 1653 01:32:22,788 --> 01:32:24,870 I still was a little nervous about the business, 1654 01:32:25,082 --> 01:32:28,704 - and now they have me driving out to the hinterlands, for this shoot, and I'm sure 1655 01:32:28,919 --> 01:32:31,873 - that I'm gonna get killed out there, and buried in an avocado grove. 1656 01:32:32,089 --> 01:32:34,797 Whoa. Sorry. 1657 01:32:35,008 --> 01:32:37,841 That was so compelling, you lost your balance. 1658 01:32:38,053 --> 01:32:40,507 I was impressed by both the ladies in that scene, actually. 1659 01:32:40,722 --> 01:32:43,259 I saw that about to happen. 1660 01:32:43,475 --> 01:32:46,685 There's a whole bunch of producers I had to sleep with to get a lot of jobs. 1661 01:32:46,728 --> 01:32:48,059 No, I'm just... 1662 01:32:48,272 --> 01:32:51,014 - I hope not. - Slept with two of 'em at least. 1663 01:32:51,233 --> 01:32:54,045 And one that took you to a Barry Manilow concert. She called me up... 1664 01:32:54,069 --> 01:32:55,855 Dude, but they made me stars, though. 1665 01:32:56,071 --> 01:32:57,131 I slept with the right producers, I swear. 1666 01:32:57,155 --> 01:32:58,441 Which ones off the record? 1667 01:32:58,657 --> 01:33:01,991 I guess "Deep Throat" was such a big event. 1668 01:33:02,202 --> 01:33:03,943 People were going to see "Deep Throat." 1669 01:33:04,162 --> 01:33:06,496 It wasn't a very good movie, but people wanted to see it. 1670 01:33:06,582 --> 01:33:10,408 I guess part of it was Linda had, you know, had kind of a sweet look to her. 1671 01:33:10,627 --> 01:33:12,564 She was a filthy little whore, but she had a sweet look to her. 1672 01:33:12,588 --> 01:33:18,083 I really just love the whole idea that she has with the whole thing. 1673 01:33:18,302 --> 01:33:20,543 I just went blah, blah, blah in my head. 1674 01:33:20,762 --> 01:33:23,220 And I'm like blah, blah, blah. 1675 01:33:23,432 --> 01:33:26,473 My first blow-job, and I'm looking everybody in the eye, 1676 01:33:26,685 --> 01:33:28,471 - 'cause there's like 30 people on the set. 1677 01:33:28,687 --> 01:33:30,473 Welcome to my blow-job. 1678 01:33:30,689 --> 01:33:32,350 Welcome to my blow-job. Is this cool? 1679 01:33:32,566 --> 01:33:35,308 I did ten films with Veronica Hart. 1680 01:33:35,527 --> 01:33:37,277 And then we were talking about our parents, 1681 01:33:37,487 --> 01:33:40,980 - and my father worked out at the test site out in Nevada. 1682 01:33:41,199 --> 01:33:42,949 What a nice thing, your father makes bombs. 1683 01:33:43,076 --> 01:33:44,532 How nice. 1684 01:33:44,745 --> 01:33:47,203 I came down hard on her. I said your father's a murderer. 1685 01:33:47,414 --> 01:33:49,530 All of a sudden, R. Bolla was saying- 1686 01:33:49,750 --> 01:33:53,454 - that my dad was the cause of everything wrong in the world. 1687 01:33:53,670 --> 01:33:57,463 I saw that she was hurt, so I told her I was sorry. 1688 01:33:57,674 --> 01:33:58,880 I really did. 1689 01:33:59,092 --> 01:34:02,210 I said I'm really sorry that I hate your father. 1690 01:34:02,429 --> 01:34:03,429 No. 1691 01:34:05,390 --> 01:34:06,425 Well done. 1692 01:34:08,060 --> 01:34:11,519 I know who I fucked and when I fucked 'em. 1693 01:34:11,730 --> 01:34:16,565 Log on to gingerlynnauctions.com, and bid... 1694 01:34:16,777 --> 01:34:18,563 No, I burped. I burped. 1695 01:34:18,779 --> 01:34:20,315 Here's a little tidbit about Ron. 1696 01:34:20,530 --> 01:34:25,445 And Ron is desperate to be in mainstream movies. 1697 01:34:25,661 --> 01:34:30,370 And I think to his detriment he has become, through his own doing, 1698 01:34:30,582 --> 01:34:35,701 - too famous to be taken seriously as an actor the way he would like to be. 1699 01:34:35,921 --> 01:34:37,857 So you just see Ron Jeremy you go, oh, it's Ron Jeremy. 1700 01:34:37,881 --> 01:34:40,293 You don't see Ron Jeremy playing like the office guy- 1701 01:34:40,509 --> 01:34:41,944 - or Ron Jeremy playing the attorney. 1702 01:34:41,968 --> 01:34:44,005 It's like Ron Jeremy playing the attorney. 1703 01:34:44,221 --> 01:34:49,007 The only way to actually to be the king of porn is like to, uh, kill Ron Jeremy. 1704 01:34:59,945 --> 01:35:01,982 Just smack it. Excellent. 1705 01:35:02,155 --> 01:35:03,716 Actually, I would like to do that again. 1706 01:35:03,740 --> 01:35:04,821 Let's slate again please. 151265

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