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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:07,890 --> 00:00:12,890 Subtitles by explosiveskull www.OpenSubtitles.org 2 00:00:14,942 --> 00:00:17,109 In California, the worst measles outbreak 3 00:00:17,142 --> 00:00:18,908 in 15 years is spreading. 4 00:00:18,942 --> 00:00:21,875 The virus is roaring back into the headlines tonight. 5 00:00:21,908 --> 00:00:24,042 An outbreak, somehow traced to... 6 00:00:24,075 --> 00:00:26,776 Someone who had probably caught measles abroad visited 7 00:00:26,809 --> 00:00:29,109 Disneyland and may have sneezed. 8 00:00:29,142 --> 00:00:31,409 Measles on the march in America. 9 00:00:31,442 --> 00:00:33,542 This outbreak is showing no signs of letting 10 00:00:33,576 --> 00:00:36,142 up there are already more cases this year than there were... 11 00:00:36,175 --> 00:00:37,376 The number tripled 12 00:00:37,409 --> 00:00:41,642 to 644 measles cases reported in 27 states. 13 00:00:41,676 --> 00:00:42,843 I mean, is this all 14 00:00:42,875 --> 00:00:44,743 basically because of the anti-vaccination movement? 15 00:00:44,776 --> 00:00:47,275 Because parents aren't vaccinating their kids? 16 00:00:47,309 --> 00:00:49,042 Yeah, you know, I think so. 17 00:00:49,075 --> 00:00:51,109 A bill that would ban exemptions 18 00:00:51,142 --> 00:00:53,175 from childhood vaccines is advancing 19 00:00:53,209 --> 00:00:55,042 through the California legislature. 20 00:00:55,075 --> 00:00:56,409 We are offering legislation 21 00:00:56,442 --> 00:00:58,309 that will abolish the personal belief exemption. 22 00:00:58,342 --> 00:00:59,908 I think you're starting to see why it is 23 00:00:59,942 --> 00:01:01,309 that mandates are so important. 24 00:01:01,342 --> 00:01:03,209 There has been some inaccurate information 25 00:01:03,242 --> 00:01:06,109 circulating about vaccines, mostly stemming 26 00:01:06,142 --> 00:01:08,942 from a British study linking vaccines to autism. 27 00:01:08,975 --> 00:01:11,476 Still continued here, the vaccine caused autism, 28 00:01:11,509 --> 00:01:13,008 even though that has been debunked. 29 00:01:13,042 --> 00:01:15,409 Repeatedly and thoroughly debunked. 30 00:01:15,442 --> 00:01:17,776 You may have heard vaccination causes autism 31 00:01:17,809 --> 00:01:20,376 in one out of 110 children. 32 00:01:20,409 --> 00:01:21,175 Fuck that. 33 00:01:21,209 --> 00:01:22,175 Total bullshit. 34 00:01:22,209 --> 00:01:23,542 It doesn't. 35 00:01:23,576 --> 00:01:25,776 The bill requiring children to be vaccinated has passed 36 00:01:25,809 --> 00:01:27,442 with bipartisan support. 37 00:01:27,476 --> 00:01:30,342 Every child must meet immunization standards 38 00:01:30,376 --> 00:01:33,676 before joining public schools, private schools and daycares. 39 00:01:33,709 --> 00:01:37,175 I would strongly encourage everybody, look at the science, 40 00:01:37,209 --> 00:01:40,142 look at the facts, CDC, the Center for Disease Control, 41 00:01:40,175 --> 00:01:42,075 can give you good information. 42 00:01:42,109 --> 00:01:43,642 Get your children vaccinated. 43 00:03:05,942 --> 00:03:07,008 Hello? 44 00:03:07,042 --> 00:03:09,209 I was sitting at my desk where I teach 45 00:03:09,242 --> 00:03:10,609 at Simpson University. 46 00:03:10,642 --> 00:03:11,409 My phone rings. 47 00:03:11,442 --> 00:03:13,676 It's Dr. William Thompson. 48 00:03:13,709 --> 00:03:16,309 Brian, you and I don't know each other very well. 49 00:03:16,342 --> 00:03:20,376 I don't know how this is all going to play out. 50 00:03:20,409 --> 00:03:25,109 You have a son with autism, and I have great shame now, 51 00:03:25,142 --> 00:03:28,376 when I meet families with kids with autism. 52 00:03:28,409 --> 00:03:32,875 Because I have been part of the problem. 53 00:03:34,075 --> 00:03:39,809 My son Steven was born in February of 1998. 54 00:03:39,843 --> 00:03:42,042 Steve, what does the cow say? 55 00:03:42,075 --> 00:03:42,676 Moo. 56 00:03:42,709 --> 00:03:43,609 Tweet, tweet. 57 00:03:43,642 --> 00:03:45,242 Tweet! 58 00:03:45,275 --> 00:03:45,676 Doggie. 59 00:03:45,709 --> 00:03:47,442 Yeah. 60 00:03:47,476 --> 00:03:52,309 Two weeks after his 15 month vaccines, he lost all language. 61 00:03:52,342 --> 00:03:54,676 He lost all eye contact. 62 00:03:54,709 --> 00:03:58,342 We pick him up and he would just hang limp. 63 00:03:58,376 --> 00:04:01,275 This is a time where CDC was just starting 64 00:04:01,309 --> 00:04:04,843 to do these studies on vaccines and autism. 65 00:04:04,875 --> 00:04:08,409 As a scientist, I have over 60 technical 66 00:04:08,442 --> 00:04:10,476 and scientific publications 67 00:04:10,509 --> 00:04:14,142 in major international scientific journals, 68 00:04:14,175 --> 00:04:16,576 and I was contacting the CDC 69 00:04:16,609 --> 00:04:19,642 and was deeply critical of their studies. 70 00:04:19,676 --> 00:04:22,676 And so the CDC decided that the scientist who was going 71 00:04:22,709 --> 00:04:27,142 to interface with me at that time was Dr. William Thompson. 72 00:04:27,175 --> 00:04:29,042 Because I was on his back, because he didn't 73 00:04:29,075 --> 00:04:33,309 like what I was saying about the statistics, I received a letter 74 00:04:33,342 --> 00:04:36,542 from a CDC attorney in 2004 saying 75 00:04:36,576 --> 00:04:41,843 that I was no longer permitted to contact the CDC. 76 00:04:41,875 --> 00:04:47,309 Fast forwarding to 2014, Thompson said to me, 77 00:04:47,342 --> 00:04:53,275 "Brian if you listen to me, and if you do what I tell you to do, 78 00:04:53,309 --> 00:04:56,676 I can guarantee you will be able to access a treasure trove 79 00:04:56,709 --> 00:05:00,843 of data, and I would like to guide you through these steps. 80 00:05:07,975 --> 00:05:12,042 So I wanted to be a resource, I wanted to be valuable to you. 81 00:05:12,075 --> 00:05:15,875 I want you to have someone in the system... 82 00:05:15,908 --> 00:05:20,509 For years, I had been trying 83 00:05:20,542 --> 00:05:23,409 to crack this edifice of the CDC. 84 00:05:23,442 --> 00:05:28,609 And just getting little glimpses of what was not right. 85 00:05:28,642 --> 00:05:32,676 The CDC has put the research 10 years behind. 86 00:05:32,709 --> 00:05:36,975 Because the CDC has not been transparent, 87 00:05:37,008 --> 00:05:41,275 we've missed 10 years of research because the CDC 88 00:05:41,309 --> 00:05:47,875 is so paralyzed right now by anything related to autism. 89 00:05:49,908 --> 00:05:53,075 I am a licensed clinical psychologist 90 00:05:53,109 --> 00:05:55,709 and a board certified behavior analyst. 91 00:05:55,743 --> 00:06:01,008 In 1978, I want to say the prevalence of autism was 92 00:06:01,042 --> 00:06:04,042 about 1 in 15,000 children. 93 00:06:04,075 --> 00:06:06,075 It was a very rare disorder. 94 00:06:06,109 --> 00:06:09,175 I was working at a clinic at UCLA, 95 00:06:09,209 --> 00:06:12,109 which was pretty much the only known center 96 00:06:12,142 --> 00:06:14,975 for treating children with autism, and we had maybe 6 97 00:06:15,008 --> 00:06:17,676 to 10 children we were working with. 98 00:06:17,709 --> 00:06:21,942 Somewhere around the early 90s, shortly after I opened card, 99 00:06:21,975 --> 00:06:27,109 the growth of autism has been so high and so rapid 100 00:06:27,142 --> 00:06:30,609 that I've never felt like I could ever catch up anymore. 101 00:06:30,642 --> 00:06:33,942 From an official diagnostic perspective, 102 00:06:33,975 --> 00:06:36,442 the way that we define autism, we were looking 103 00:06:36,476 --> 00:06:39,008 at deficits in two areas. 104 00:06:39,042 --> 00:06:41,476 The first is social communication 105 00:06:41,509 --> 00:06:43,509 and social interaction. 106 00:06:43,542 --> 00:06:48,376 And in that area we require three specific symptoms 107 00:06:48,409 --> 00:06:49,576 to be present. 108 00:06:49,609 --> 00:06:53,642 Symptoms such as no social emotional reciprocity. 109 00:06:53,676 --> 00:06:56,175 No nonverbal communication. 110 00:06:56,209 --> 00:06:58,376 That means eye contact, for instance. 111 00:06:58,409 --> 00:07:00,942 Or no development of relationships. 112 00:07:00,975 --> 00:07:06,109 The second required area of deficit is the presence 113 00:07:06,142 --> 00:07:10,376 of stereotypic repetitive restricted behaviors. 114 00:07:10,409 --> 00:07:14,542 And these are things like hand flapping, body rocking, 115 00:07:14,576 --> 00:07:18,642 insistence on routines being the same. 116 00:07:18,676 --> 00:07:22,309 One of the new additions is the presence 117 00:07:22,342 --> 00:07:24,975 of a sensory dysregulation. 118 00:07:25,008 --> 00:07:29,342 If a child has an inability to sense things correctly, 119 00:07:29,376 --> 00:07:32,209 not necessarily hearing things the way we do, 120 00:07:32,242 --> 00:07:36,642 that could be classified as a symptom of autism. 121 00:07:38,442 --> 00:07:41,743 So you have five symptoms, two in the area 122 00:07:41,776 --> 00:07:44,342 of repetitive behaviors, and three in the area 123 00:07:44,376 --> 00:07:46,376 of social communication deficit, 124 00:07:46,409 --> 00:07:48,275 then you will get a classification 125 00:07:48,309 --> 00:07:52,875 of what is called autism spectrum disorder, ASD. 126 00:07:55,843 --> 00:07:58,275 We begin though, as always, keeping them honest. 127 00:07:58,309 --> 00:07:59,975 Breaking news tonight, just hours ago, 128 00:08:00,008 --> 00:08:02,075 the British Medical Journal, the BMJ, 129 00:08:02,109 --> 00:08:05,075 did something extremely rare for a scientific journal. 130 00:08:05,109 --> 00:08:08,542 It accused a researcher, Andrew Wakefield, of outright fraud. 131 00:08:08,576 --> 00:08:11,609 I got a call on the 19th of May 1995 132 00:08:11,642 --> 00:08:14,576 from a mother telling me the story of her child, 133 00:08:14,609 --> 00:08:18,109 his regression into autism following a vaccine, 134 00:08:18,142 --> 00:08:20,676 and I said "How can I help you? 135 00:08:20,709 --> 00:08:21,875 I know nothing about autism. 136 00:08:21,908 --> 00:08:24,175 You've come through the wrong number." 137 00:08:24,209 --> 00:08:25,442 And she said, "No, doctor, 138 00:08:25,476 --> 00:08:28,209 my child has terrible gastrointestinal issues, 139 00:08:28,242 --> 00:08:30,642 and no one will take them seriously." 140 00:08:30,676 --> 00:08:33,442 I was an academic gastroenterologist doing 141 00:08:33,476 --> 00:08:37,275 research with a particular interest in Crohn's disease, 142 00:08:37,309 --> 00:08:40,342 ulcerative colitis, inflammatory bowel disease. 143 00:08:40,376 --> 00:08:42,175 I knew nothing whatsoever about autism. 144 00:08:42,209 --> 00:08:43,409 When I was at medical school it was 145 00:08:43,442 --> 00:08:47,075 so rare we weren't taught about it. 146 00:08:47,109 --> 00:08:50,075 We heard a succession of stories which were very, very similar. 147 00:08:50,109 --> 00:08:52,709 Medicine is about pattern recognition, 148 00:08:52,743 --> 00:08:55,442 and there was a clear pattern emerging. 149 00:08:55,476 --> 00:08:57,975 So we decided, a group of us, 150 00:08:58,008 --> 00:09:02,309 including the world's leading pediatric gastroenterologist 151 00:09:02,342 --> 00:09:05,109 at the time, led by professor John Walker Smith, 152 00:09:05,142 --> 00:09:08,843 decided that these children merited thorough investigation. 153 00:09:08,875 --> 00:09:11,175 Well Dr. Wakefield has been shown 154 00:09:11,209 --> 00:09:15,008 to use absolutely fraudulent data, created a fake paper, 155 00:09:15,042 --> 00:09:17,175 the journal allowed it to run. 156 00:09:17,209 --> 00:09:18,809 All the other studies were done, 157 00:09:18,843 --> 00:09:22,576 showed no connection whatsoever again and again and again, 158 00:09:22,609 --> 00:09:26,875 so it's an absolute lie that has killed thousands of kids. 159 00:09:26,908 --> 00:09:28,175 What we discovered and reported 160 00:09:28,209 --> 00:09:31,275 for the first time was this link between what appeared 161 00:09:31,309 --> 00:09:34,975 to be a novel type of intestinal inflammation, 162 00:09:35,008 --> 00:09:36,342 and autistic regression 163 00:09:36,376 --> 00:09:39,576 in previously developmentally normal children. 164 00:09:39,609 --> 00:09:42,908 And among those, the majority had regressed 165 00:09:42,942 --> 00:09:46,776 into autism according to their parents following the measles, 166 00:09:46,809 --> 00:09:48,975 mumps, rubella vaccine. 167 00:09:49,008 --> 00:09:51,576 It wasn't our place to censor that story, 168 00:09:51,609 --> 00:09:54,142 because it may be uncomfortable for public health. 169 00:09:54,175 --> 00:09:57,275 Our job was to report that story accurately, 170 00:09:57,309 --> 00:10:00,075 in order that it might lead to further investigation 171 00:10:00,109 --> 00:10:03,042 and the paper explicitly said, 172 00:10:03,075 --> 00:10:08,175 this paper does not prove an association between MMR vaccine 173 00:10:08,209 --> 00:10:10,109 and the syndrome described. 174 00:10:10,142 --> 00:10:12,875 More work is needed to resolve this issue. 175 00:10:12,908 --> 00:10:15,776 That was the conclusion of the paper. 176 00:10:15,809 --> 00:10:17,743 As an investigative medical journalist, 177 00:10:17,776 --> 00:10:19,709 I've spent the last 7 years working on one 178 00:10:19,743 --> 00:10:22,242 of the best medical talk shows in the world. 179 00:10:22,275 --> 00:10:24,942 We know in medicine that there have been many, 180 00:10:24,975 --> 00:10:28,008 many studies proving that vaccines do not cause autism. 181 00:10:28,042 --> 00:10:31,709 But the problem I have always had with that is that thousands 182 00:10:31,743 --> 00:10:35,509 and thousands of parents all telling the same story. 183 00:10:35,542 --> 00:10:37,042 My child got a vaccine. 184 00:10:37,075 --> 00:10:38,609 Usually the MMR vaccine. 185 00:10:38,642 --> 00:10:41,075 And then that night or the next day broke 186 00:10:41,109 --> 00:10:43,242 out in a fever and then when they came 187 00:10:43,275 --> 00:10:45,409 out of the fever, lost speech , lost the ability 188 00:10:45,442 --> 00:10:49,109 to walk, basically regressed into what we know 189 00:10:49,142 --> 00:10:51,609 as autism, and never came back. 190 00:10:51,642 --> 00:10:54,809 Doctors used to be told to listen to their patient. 191 00:10:54,843 --> 00:10:57,476 That was the cornerstone of medicine as we know it. 192 00:10:57,509 --> 00:10:59,142 But something has changed recently 193 00:10:59,175 --> 00:11:01,342 where the patient doesn't know what they're talking about, 194 00:11:01,376 --> 00:11:04,109 and these parents, with their story of their children, 195 00:11:04,142 --> 00:11:05,542 have just been written off 196 00:11:05,576 --> 00:11:07,409 as if they have no idea what is really going 197 00:11:07,442 --> 00:11:08,175 on with their child. 198 00:11:08,209 --> 00:11:10,409 I have two kids. 199 00:11:10,442 --> 00:11:12,275 And anyone that has children knows 200 00:11:12,309 --> 00:11:16,409 that when we first have babies, we are overly sensitive 201 00:11:16,442 --> 00:11:20,242 to every little hiccup, every cough, every sniffle. 202 00:11:20,275 --> 00:11:22,776 So to say that a parent was just unaware 203 00:11:22,809 --> 00:11:24,809 that their child had issues, 204 00:11:24,843 --> 00:11:27,409 and suddenly they realized one year later 205 00:11:27,442 --> 00:11:30,442 that oh they have autism, that doesn't make sense to me. 206 00:11:30,476 --> 00:11:32,809 And so I wanted to look into this story and find 207 00:11:32,843 --> 00:11:36,309 out what is this disconnect between medicine, 208 00:11:36,342 --> 00:11:39,875 science, and real parents? 209 00:11:43,642 --> 00:11:45,142 I couldn't wait to be a mom. 210 00:11:45,175 --> 00:11:48,908 I remembered specifically, before we even got married, 211 00:11:48,942 --> 00:11:51,843 talking about how important children would be in our lives. 212 00:11:51,875 --> 00:11:55,442 I wanted a daughter first, and I wanted a son, 213 00:11:55,476 --> 00:11:57,509 and we were planning on having four children. 214 00:11:57,542 --> 00:11:59,908 We were going to be the most perfect parents 215 00:11:59,942 --> 00:12:01,242 that we could be. 216 00:12:01,275 --> 00:12:06,609 Bella was born, and that was a wonderful experience. 217 00:12:06,642 --> 00:12:09,109 Bella was just this angelic, perfect child, 218 00:12:09,142 --> 00:12:11,776 she hit all her milestones. 219 00:12:11,809 --> 00:12:15,609 I got pregnant with Billy quite quickly. 220 00:12:16,942 --> 00:12:18,642 Bella, say hello to Billy. 221 00:12:18,676 --> 00:12:19,942 Hello. 222 00:12:19,975 --> 00:12:21,908 We've now got a beautiful girl and a beautiful boy, 223 00:12:21,942 --> 00:12:23,509 and life was just amazing. 224 00:12:23,542 --> 00:12:27,509 So at 2, 4 and 6 months, Billy had his normal baby vaccines. 225 00:12:27,542 --> 00:12:30,376 A little bit sniffly, chesty-coldy, 226 00:12:30,409 --> 00:12:32,409 after the last one, so me... 227 00:12:32,442 --> 00:12:35,376 in my perfect mother mode, rushed to the doctor. 228 00:12:35,409 --> 00:12:36,209 You know, is he okay? 229 00:12:36,242 --> 00:12:37,209 Do I need to give him anything? 230 00:12:37,242 --> 00:12:39,109 Yes, you need to give him antibiotics, 231 00:12:39,142 --> 00:12:42,442 just to make sure there is not an infection in there. 232 00:12:42,476 --> 00:12:43,776 It didn't clear up. 233 00:12:43,809 --> 00:12:46,376 Brought him back to the doctor, had even more antibiotics, 234 00:12:46,409 --> 00:12:47,908 let's just keep this going in him. 235 00:12:47,942 --> 00:12:49,942 And I remember my mother calling up, 236 00:12:49,975 --> 00:12:52,075 my mother is a homeopathic hippie, 237 00:12:52,109 --> 00:12:53,109 and called up saying what are you doing? 238 00:12:53,142 --> 00:12:55,309 In chucking those antibiotics 239 00:12:55,342 --> 00:12:57,042 down your son's throat... for what? 240 00:12:57,075 --> 00:12:59,175 And I'm saying to her mum, with all due respect, 241 00:12:59,209 --> 00:13:01,908 you're an artist, and they're doctors, so they know best. 242 00:13:01,942 --> 00:13:05,843 He was due his MMR vaccination at 12 months. 243 00:13:05,875 --> 00:13:09,676 So the morning, exactly to the day, my friend, she said to me, 244 00:13:09,709 --> 00:13:11,975 "Listen, I've heard that there may be a problem 245 00:13:12,008 --> 00:13:14,809 with this vaccine you're about to take Billy in for, the MMR." 246 00:13:14,843 --> 00:13:16,409 I said "Are you crazy? 247 00:13:16,442 --> 00:13:18,409 What is the matter with you? 248 00:13:18,442 --> 00:13:20,576 If there was a problem with the vaccination it would be 249 00:13:20,609 --> 00:13:22,275 headline news. 250 00:13:22,309 --> 00:13:23,676 The doctor would be calling me 251 00:13:23,709 --> 00:13:27,342 up saying do not bother coming in, this is not a safe vaccine. 252 00:13:27,376 --> 00:13:28,676 None of that is happening. 253 00:13:28,709 --> 00:13:29,776 You're being negative. 254 00:13:29,809 --> 00:13:31,175 You're being careless, and you're listening 255 00:13:31,209 --> 00:13:34,008 to what some rumor that you heard somewhere, 256 00:13:34,042 --> 00:13:36,409 Billy could become deaf if I don't take him 257 00:13:36,442 --> 00:13:38,942 in now and get him this MMR. 258 00:13:41,242 --> 00:13:43,676 You know, most of the evidence linking measles 259 00:13:43,709 --> 00:13:46,576 with autism has kind of settled down, and most doctors 260 00:13:46,609 --> 00:13:49,576 and scientists agree that it probably isn't the major cause. 261 00:13:49,609 --> 00:13:52,576 I've been working in pediatrics for almost 20 years. 262 00:13:52,609 --> 00:13:56,942 I think most pediatricians view vaccines 263 00:13:56,975 --> 00:14:00,843 as they are the number one thing they do for kids. 264 00:14:00,875 --> 00:14:03,709 Okay there we go. 265 00:14:03,743 --> 00:14:05,476 High-five. 266 00:14:05,509 --> 00:14:06,175 All right. 267 00:14:06,209 --> 00:14:07,442 That was really good. 268 00:14:07,476 --> 00:14:11,142 I'm young enough to not remember the days of kids 269 00:14:11,175 --> 00:14:14,576 in an iron lung, because they were battling polio. 270 00:14:14,609 --> 00:14:16,609 You know, polio has essentially been eradicated 271 00:14:16,642 --> 00:14:17,776 from this country. 272 00:14:17,809 --> 00:14:21,109 In 98 the Wakefield study had come out, 273 00:14:21,142 --> 00:14:22,542 my son had just been born. 274 00:14:22,576 --> 00:14:26,309 That study kind of pointed a finger at the MMR. 275 00:14:26,342 --> 00:14:30,975 As a parent, I was scared to give the MMR to my son, 276 00:14:31,008 --> 00:14:35,242 and as a matter of fact, we... I didn't give it to him on time. 277 00:14:35,275 --> 00:14:36,476 Because I wanted to see. 278 00:14:36,509 --> 00:14:41,242 I wanted to see what additional studies would show. 279 00:14:41,275 --> 00:14:43,609 And over time, additional studies did show 280 00:14:43,642 --> 00:14:45,908 that no, it's safe. 281 00:14:45,942 --> 00:14:47,843 So he did get the vaccine. 282 00:14:47,908 --> 00:14:50,709 You know, if everybody stopped vaccinating, 283 00:14:52,042 --> 00:14:55,676 we would be going back to the dark ages. 284 00:15:06,242 --> 00:15:09,843 When a CDC scientist, who had been there, at that time, 285 00:15:09,875 --> 00:15:14,776 17 years, tells you this is how you access data, 286 00:15:14,809 --> 00:15:17,242 it didn't take me very long to realize oh, 287 00:15:17,275 --> 00:15:19,242 I'd better do what he says. 288 00:15:19,275 --> 00:15:21,376 Because he knows what he's talking about. 289 00:15:21,409 --> 00:15:22,843 I just want to tell you one thing. 290 00:15:22,875 --> 00:15:26,042 Right now, I'm sitting at a very pretty position in terms 291 00:15:26,075 --> 00:15:27,875 of providing you a lot of information. 292 00:15:27,908 --> 00:15:30,676 He asked me what data sets are you going to request? 293 00:15:30,709 --> 00:15:32,776 And I said, well I'm going to request two of the studies 294 00:15:32,809 --> 00:15:34,476 that you've done on Thimerosal, 295 00:15:34,509 --> 00:15:37,642 the mercury-containing preservative that is used 296 00:15:37,676 --> 00:15:39,142 in some of the vaccines. 297 00:15:39,175 --> 00:15:41,642 And he said well that's fine, but I want you 298 00:15:41,676 --> 00:15:45,542 to request the MMR data set first, and this is the study 299 00:15:45,576 --> 00:15:48,809 by Frank DeStefano and his colleagues in 2004. 300 00:15:48,843 --> 00:15:51,908 It was the one study where we could end 301 00:15:51,942 --> 00:15:55,809 up creating a mess while the CDC tried to, you know, 302 00:15:55,843 --> 00:15:58,576 tried to sort out something they couldn't understand. 303 00:15:58,609 --> 00:16:01,209 The day Billy got the MMR was a living nightmare, 304 00:16:01,242 --> 00:16:03,442 worst day of my life, to be honest with you. 305 00:16:03,476 --> 00:16:08,142 I came in and I saw him lying in his cot, listless. 306 00:16:08,175 --> 00:16:11,743 He started this uncontrollable shaking. 307 00:16:11,776 --> 00:16:13,409 Uncontrollable shaking. 308 00:16:13,442 --> 00:16:16,275 Imagine coming out of a frozen pond. 309 00:16:16,309 --> 00:16:20,942 His eyes were doing this, and he was shaking, like this. 310 00:16:20,975 --> 00:16:24,209 And I remember she grasped him and held him really tight. 311 00:16:24,242 --> 00:16:25,409 To her chest. 312 00:16:25,442 --> 00:16:29,442 There's immediate fear in Jon, and immediate, 313 00:16:29,476 --> 00:16:31,242 mommy this is not going to happen, 314 00:16:31,275 --> 00:16:32,409 I don't know what is wrong with you, 315 00:16:32,442 --> 00:16:34,376 but this is not going to happen. 316 00:16:34,409 --> 00:16:38,175 And we get to hospital, we rush him in, doctors are coming in, 317 00:16:38,209 --> 00:16:42,008 looking at him, that's when they said he's had a reaction, 318 00:16:42,042 --> 00:16:46,542 he's had a seizure, this is normal, this is common, 319 00:16:46,576 --> 00:16:50,709 for many, many children who have this vaccination, 320 00:16:50,743 --> 00:16:53,875 it's absolutely okay, he's going to be fine. 321 00:16:53,908 --> 00:16:57,409 Nobody ever told me that there would be any side effect to any 322 00:16:57,442 --> 00:17:00,175 of the vaccinations my children had. 323 00:17:08,242 --> 00:17:09,809 Following his febrile convulsion 324 00:17:09,843 --> 00:17:12,175 that he had the same day of the MMR, 325 00:17:12,209 --> 00:17:14,609 we were told to take him home. 326 00:17:14,642 --> 00:17:16,509 He slept in the bed with us for the night, 327 00:17:16,542 --> 00:17:18,409 he seemed just very, very sleepy. 328 00:17:18,442 --> 00:17:21,709 In fact, he didn't ever really wake 329 00:17:21,743 --> 00:17:24,175 up to the Billy that we had before. 330 00:17:27,275 --> 00:17:30,576 For me, it became really necessary to start looking 331 00:17:30,609 --> 00:17:34,843 at what types of medical issues are these children 332 00:17:34,908 --> 00:17:36,042 going through? 333 00:17:36,075 --> 00:17:38,609 What are the other factors that have affected them, 334 00:17:38,642 --> 00:17:40,476 that have brought them to this level 335 00:17:40,509 --> 00:17:42,576 of symptomatology that we call autism. 336 00:17:42,609 --> 00:17:44,776 This is now probably the mid-90s. 337 00:17:44,809 --> 00:17:48,908 I came to notice that there was A, a very high use 338 00:17:48,942 --> 00:17:52,209 of antibiotics amongst these children, but B, 339 00:17:52,242 --> 00:17:55,843 what became pretty interesting was seeing the number 340 00:17:55,875 --> 00:17:58,709 of families who were reporting 341 00:17:58,743 --> 00:18:02,142 that their child had a regressive type 342 00:18:02,175 --> 00:18:06,209 of behavior occur right after their vaccinations. 343 00:18:06,242 --> 00:18:09,476 A lot of these parents were showing me footage 344 00:18:09,509 --> 00:18:14,942 of their children who had been completely developing normally 345 00:18:14,975 --> 00:18:19,376 until 18 months, and then all of a sudden, post-vaccination, 346 00:18:19,409 --> 00:18:22,509 developed incredible regression. 347 00:18:22,542 --> 00:18:26,576 Children who had speech anywhere close to 50 to 100 words, 348 00:18:26,609 --> 00:18:29,109 and had completely lost all of their words. 349 00:18:29,142 --> 00:18:32,509 Children who were extremely attached and interactive 350 00:18:32,542 --> 00:18:35,843 with their parents had suddenly become isolated, 351 00:18:35,875 --> 00:18:38,709 no longer responding to their own name. 352 00:18:38,743 --> 00:18:42,209 This was all happening right after their MMR vaccines. 353 00:18:53,542 --> 00:18:58,109 My oldest son, Ian, was born normal, developing normally. 354 00:18:58,142 --> 00:19:00,875 He was this beautiful boy, and we ended 355 00:19:00,908 --> 00:19:03,642 up at our 12-month visit, which is his one year, 356 00:19:03,676 --> 00:19:06,342 then they gave him multiple vaccines at once, 357 00:19:06,376 --> 00:19:10,242 and within 7 days, he had a 104 fever, 358 00:19:10,275 --> 00:19:12,875 and a rash all over his body. 359 00:19:12,908 --> 00:19:18,175 He had previously been noted, and in our videos, home videos, 360 00:19:18,209 --> 00:19:22,309 that he was walking, and actually running at that point. 361 00:19:22,342 --> 00:19:25,676 Seven days after the vaccine, he was no longer able to do that. 362 00:19:48,242 --> 00:19:49,275 He was falling down. 363 00:19:49,309 --> 00:19:52,409 He became a really sick, sick little boy. 364 00:19:54,242 --> 00:19:57,476 So the question for those of us investigating autism, 365 00:19:57,509 --> 00:20:01,908 is age of exposure to MMR, a risk for autism. 366 00:20:01,942 --> 00:20:04,209 And in order to understand why that might be, 367 00:20:04,242 --> 00:20:09,209 you have to understand something of the history of MMR vaccine. 368 00:20:09,242 --> 00:20:13,342 In 1987, there was an MMR vaccine that was being used 369 00:20:13,376 --> 00:20:15,609 in Canada, produced by Smith-Kline-Beecham, 370 00:20:15,642 --> 00:20:18,809 and that vaccine caused meningitis. 371 00:20:18,843 --> 00:20:20,142 It was recognized quickly, 372 00:20:20,175 --> 00:20:23,376 and that vaccine was withdrawn in Canada. 373 00:20:23,409 --> 00:20:27,875 However, in the same month that it was withdrawn in Ontario, 374 00:20:27,908 --> 00:20:32,109 it was licensed in the U.K., the name was simply changed 375 00:20:32,142 --> 00:20:35,642 from Trivirix, to Pluserix, in the U.K. it was used 376 00:20:35,676 --> 00:20:38,709 for four years, and likewise, caused meningitis and had 377 00:20:38,743 --> 00:20:39,975 to be rapidly withdrawn. 378 00:20:40,008 --> 00:20:41,342 There was a public outcry. 379 00:20:41,376 --> 00:20:44,609 There was an acute loss of confidence by the public 380 00:20:44,642 --> 00:20:48,908 in vaccine policy makers, and the vaccine should 381 00:20:48,942 --> 00:20:51,209 at that point have been destroyed. 382 00:20:51,242 --> 00:20:52,409 It wasn't. 383 00:20:52,442 --> 00:20:55,008 It was then shipped to developing countries 384 00:20:55,042 --> 00:20:59,209 like Brazil, where it was used in a mass vaccination campaign, 385 00:20:59,242 --> 00:21:02,442 and there was an epidemic of meningitis, 386 00:21:02,476 --> 00:21:05,008 which was entirely predictable. 387 00:21:05,042 --> 00:21:09,709 Now scientists studied that epidemic, and what they found is 388 00:21:09,743 --> 00:21:14,509 that the risk for meningitis was associated with age of exposure. 389 00:21:14,542 --> 00:21:17,743 The younger you got the MMR vaccine, 390 00:21:17,776 --> 00:21:20,209 the greater the risk for meningitis. 391 00:21:20,242 --> 00:21:22,843 For people like me investigating autism, 392 00:21:22,875 --> 00:21:26,843 the question was is there a similar risk in autism? 393 00:21:26,875 --> 00:21:31,875 Is age of exposure to MMR a risk for autism just 394 00:21:31,908 --> 00:21:34,843 as it was for meningitis? 395 00:21:34,875 --> 00:21:40,109 We shared with the U.S. Congress and the CDC the hypothesis. 396 00:21:40,142 --> 00:21:43,442 The story as told to us, and which we have an obligation 397 00:21:43,476 --> 00:21:45,476 to report is that the majority 398 00:21:45,509 --> 00:21:49,776 of children regressed following a period of normal development 399 00:21:49,809 --> 00:21:52,008 in the face of an MMR vaccination. 400 00:21:52,042 --> 00:21:54,476 That does not mean it is the cause of the disease. 401 00:21:54,509 --> 00:21:57,442 The Institute of Medicine is a body of scientists 402 00:21:57,476 --> 00:22:01,175 and physicians that review the available data on vaccine safety 403 00:22:01,209 --> 00:22:05,409 and then advise our government on vaccine research policy. 404 00:22:05,442 --> 00:22:09,542 Well, because Andy Wakefield had put forth this theory 405 00:22:09,576 --> 00:22:13,376 that the age at which you receive the MMR may increase 406 00:22:13,409 --> 00:22:16,542 your risk of autism, the IOM looked to the CDC 407 00:22:16,576 --> 00:22:17,776 to do that very study. 408 00:22:17,809 --> 00:22:19,975 It was a study about timing. 409 00:22:20,008 --> 00:22:24,008 Does the earlier you receive the MMR vaccine increase the risk 410 00:22:24,042 --> 00:22:25,075 of autism? 411 00:22:25,109 --> 00:22:27,609 When we talk about the MMR study, 412 00:22:27,642 --> 00:22:31,376 nobody had ever requested those data, 413 00:22:31,409 --> 00:22:33,975 because it was a big secret that you could do it. 414 00:22:34,008 --> 00:22:37,908 Thompson told me to email such and such a person, 415 00:22:37,942 --> 00:22:41,576 and then on the inside, I also found out that one 416 00:22:41,609 --> 00:22:43,743 of the people preparing these data sets 417 00:22:43,776 --> 00:22:45,709 for me was Bill Thompson. 418 00:22:45,743 --> 00:22:47,209 They don't really want people to know 419 00:22:47,242 --> 00:22:49,642 that this data exists, again, you know? 420 00:22:49,676 --> 00:22:52,142 I just can't believe we actually got you that data. 421 00:22:52,175 --> 00:22:54,743 Thompson couldn't send these documents directly 422 00:22:54,776 --> 00:22:58,175 to Brian Hooker, because that would have been illegal. 423 00:22:58,209 --> 00:23:02,743 What Thompson identified was a legal loophole that is referred 424 00:23:02,776 --> 00:23:05,109 to as a citizen's request. 425 00:23:05,142 --> 00:23:06,975 That allowed Thompson to deliver 426 00:23:07,008 --> 00:23:10,409 to Brian Hooker potentially classified information 427 00:23:10,442 --> 00:23:12,175 in a legal way. 428 00:23:16,342 --> 00:23:17,542 You get checked in England, 429 00:23:17,576 --> 00:23:19,476 with your babies, at certain times. 430 00:23:19,509 --> 00:23:20,875 Health, by health visitors. 431 00:23:20,908 --> 00:23:25,642 So nine months Billy had his full blown check 432 00:23:25,676 --> 00:23:28,908 and there was no parental concerns, 433 00:23:28,942 --> 00:23:30,908 baby laughing, babbling, talking. 434 00:23:30,942 --> 00:23:34,542 So we passed that with flying colors. 435 00:23:34,576 --> 00:23:38,209 Eighteen months is when they next come in, and by this time, 436 00:23:38,242 --> 00:23:41,776 we know there is something seriously wrong with Billy. 437 00:23:41,809 --> 00:23:44,743 Probably within five or six days, 438 00:23:44,776 --> 00:23:47,975 the first signs really was this vacancy. 439 00:23:48,008 --> 00:23:51,908 He wasn't the same smiley little baby that he was before. 440 00:23:51,942 --> 00:23:54,609 He had a blank expression. 441 00:23:54,642 --> 00:23:57,342 Then the diarrhea kicked in. 442 00:23:57,376 --> 00:24:00,975 His tummy started to get bigger and bigger, bloated. 443 00:24:01,008 --> 00:24:02,843 Rock hard bloated tummy. 444 00:24:02,875 --> 00:24:04,476 He would start to walk on tiptoes. 445 00:24:04,509 --> 00:24:10,843 His hair fell out, and this dreadful, high-pitched scream, 446 00:24:10,875 --> 00:24:13,676 sort of whiny scream developed from him, 447 00:24:13,709 --> 00:24:15,676 and then came the head banging. 448 00:24:15,709 --> 00:24:17,743 The constant banging against his crib. 449 00:24:17,776 --> 00:24:21,309 The constant banging against the floor or a wall or anything 450 00:24:21,342 --> 00:24:23,709 that he could find to bang his head on, 451 00:24:23,743 --> 00:24:25,908 he would thrash it, and thrash it. 452 00:24:25,942 --> 00:24:28,809 Jon and I would lie in bed at night just listening 453 00:24:28,843 --> 00:24:33,709 to this thud, thud, thud,. 454 00:24:33,743 --> 00:24:35,075 Thud. 455 00:24:35,109 --> 00:24:37,676 There's nothing... now not even noticing his sister he used 456 00:24:37,709 --> 00:24:39,042 to play with. 457 00:24:39,075 --> 00:24:42,309 Jon comes through the front door after work, no recognition 458 00:24:42,342 --> 00:24:45,509 that we were his parents, or that this child even belonged 459 00:24:45,542 --> 00:24:47,109 to us, nothing, nothing. 460 00:24:47,142 --> 00:24:48,442 Gone. 461 00:24:53,509 --> 00:24:58,242 I mean, that was the time where, our boy changed 462 00:24:58,275 --> 00:25:07,309 from what he was, to a real tragic, tragic case of a child 463 00:25:12,275 --> 00:25:19,209 who regressed into this autistic state, and lost everything. 464 00:25:20,509 --> 00:25:22,642 Lost everything. 465 00:25:27,075 --> 00:25:30,743 The CDC, the way that they do research studies is 466 00:25:30,776 --> 00:25:33,042 very reactionary. 467 00:25:33,075 --> 00:25:35,942 They look at something that is creating the press, 468 00:25:35,975 --> 00:25:39,442 and creating a buzz, that could actually lower vaccination 469 00:25:39,476 --> 00:25:41,509 rates, and that's what they study. 470 00:25:41,542 --> 00:25:44,008 They don't study vaccines proactively. 471 00:25:44,042 --> 00:25:48,109 So if Andy had never done his original study and gotten 472 00:25:48,142 --> 00:25:49,809 that published in The Lancet, 473 00:25:49,843 --> 00:25:52,542 would have never created the uproar 474 00:25:52,576 --> 00:25:54,809 that rightfully it should have created, 475 00:25:54,843 --> 00:25:57,776 then the CDC would have never studied this. 476 00:25:59,942 --> 00:26:02,209 The press conference for The Lancet paper was called 477 00:26:02,242 --> 00:26:04,576 by the Dean of the medical school, who was the Chairman 478 00:26:04,609 --> 00:26:07,175 of the Media Committee. 479 00:26:15,275 --> 00:26:18,809 I had done an extensive research 480 00:26:18,843 --> 00:26:23,008 into measles vaccine safety and MMR vaccine safety 481 00:26:23,042 --> 00:26:24,809 in the pre-licensing phase. 482 00:26:24,843 --> 00:26:28,142 In other words, what safety studies had been done before 483 00:26:28,175 --> 00:26:31,642 these vaccines were put onto the market and into children? 484 00:26:31,676 --> 00:26:35,942 The 250 page report was compiled by me, 485 00:26:35,975 --> 00:26:39,576 showing that the vaccine safety studies for MMR 486 00:26:39,609 --> 00:26:42,975 in particular, were lamentable. 487 00:26:43,008 --> 00:26:44,275 They were lamentable. 488 00:26:44,309 --> 00:26:47,075 Many, many assumptions have been made about the safety 489 00:26:47,109 --> 00:26:49,843 of this vaccine, and there had been problems 490 00:26:49,875 --> 00:26:52,743 which had been airbrushed. 491 00:26:52,776 --> 00:26:56,509 So I wrote to my colleagues, and the Dean, 492 00:26:56,542 --> 00:26:59,875 and I said going forward there are going to be questions 493 00:26:59,908 --> 00:27:02,008 about what parents should do next. 494 00:27:02,042 --> 00:27:04,908 I cannot in due conscience support continued use 495 00:27:04,942 --> 00:27:07,509 of the MMR vaccine, having done this research. 496 00:27:07,542 --> 00:27:10,509 I said, I will continue to vigorously support the use 497 00:27:10,542 --> 00:27:12,275 of the single vaccine. 498 00:27:12,309 --> 00:27:16,709 But can no longer support the use of the triple MMR vaccine. 499 00:27:16,743 --> 00:27:18,442 So the dean, the chairman 500 00:27:18,476 --> 00:27:20,209 of that committee, had three choices. 501 00:27:20,242 --> 00:27:24,109 He could have not had a press conference. 502 00:27:24,142 --> 00:27:27,743 He could have banned me from the press conference, 503 00:27:27,776 --> 00:27:31,743 or when the question came up, as inevitably it would, 504 00:27:31,776 --> 00:27:35,042 what do parents do next about vaccinating their children? 505 00:27:35,075 --> 00:27:36,743 He knew what my response would be. 506 00:27:36,776 --> 00:27:40,142 He could deflect the question to someone else. 507 00:27:40,175 --> 00:27:42,042 When the question came up on the day, 508 00:27:42,075 --> 00:27:43,209 he directed it straight to me. 509 00:27:54,908 --> 00:27:58,175 All I recommended at that press conference was 510 00:27:58,209 --> 00:28:02,175 that parents opt for the use of the single vaccines. 511 00:28:02,209 --> 00:28:05,843 Single measles, single mumps, single rubella, 512 00:28:05,875 --> 00:28:10,109 until the issue had been resolved scientifically. 513 00:28:10,142 --> 00:28:13,042 What happened when I made that recommendation, 514 00:28:13,075 --> 00:28:15,942 unilateral decisions were made by the government in the U.K. 515 00:28:15,975 --> 00:28:20,209 to withdraw the importation license for the single vaccines, 516 00:28:20,242 --> 00:28:23,409 Merck opting in the U.S. to cease the production 517 00:28:23,442 --> 00:28:26,709 of the single vaccines, giving parents no option. 518 00:28:26,743 --> 00:28:29,342 I said to a senior representative to the Department 519 00:28:29,376 --> 00:28:32,709 of Health, why, if your objective is to protect children 520 00:28:32,743 --> 00:28:34,776 against serious infectious disease, 521 00:28:34,809 --> 00:28:38,442 why would you take away the option of how parents do that? 522 00:28:38,476 --> 00:28:41,175 And she said "because if we allow parents the choice 523 00:28:41,209 --> 00:28:45,342 of single vaccines, it would destroy our MMR program." 524 00:28:45,376 --> 00:28:48,442 In other words, the concern was for the protection 525 00:28:48,476 --> 00:28:52,075 of the program, over and above the protection of children. 526 00:28:56,242 --> 00:28:58,776 No one's career has ever been advanced 527 00:28:58,809 --> 00:29:02,908 in the medical industrial complex by being outwardly 528 00:29:02,942 --> 00:29:05,975 and openly critical of the vaccine industry. 529 00:29:06,008 --> 00:29:09,743 I'm Mark Blaxill, father of a daughter diagnosed 530 00:29:09,776 --> 00:29:12,709 with autism back in 1998. 531 00:29:12,743 --> 00:29:15,709 I've written two books that have come out of the autism movement, 532 00:29:15,743 --> 00:29:20,509 that have been projected into autism advocacy ever since. 533 00:29:20,542 --> 00:29:22,242 Michaela was born typical. 534 00:29:22,275 --> 00:29:23,809 Everything was fine. 535 00:29:23,843 --> 00:29:26,209 She was developing normally through her first birthday. 536 00:29:26,242 --> 00:29:30,342 We had vivid memories of, you know, early language, 537 00:29:30,376 --> 00:29:32,242 joined attention, lots of play. 538 00:29:32,275 --> 00:29:35,042 She was adorable, beautiful, cute. 539 00:29:35,075 --> 00:29:39,809 And then somewhere in the months after she began to slip away, 540 00:29:39,843 --> 00:29:42,942 and she lost language, and she began to retreat 541 00:29:42,975 --> 00:29:45,075 into a world of her own. 542 00:29:45,109 --> 00:29:50,442 And at 2 years, 9 months, we got a formal diagnosis 543 00:29:50,476 --> 00:29:52,776 of a full syndrome autism. 544 00:29:52,809 --> 00:29:56,342 It was a hopeless, pessimistic future 545 00:29:56,376 --> 00:29:57,709 that was laid out in front of us. 546 00:29:57,743 --> 00:30:00,075 She was going to be disabled for the rest of her life, 547 00:30:00,109 --> 00:30:04,409 likely to be non-vocal, in an institution, 548 00:30:04,442 --> 00:30:09,242 and that the best thing we could do was to accept the inevitable. 549 00:30:09,275 --> 00:30:13,409 Part of the story we heard from the Harvard experts was 550 00:30:13,442 --> 00:30:17,042 that autism was genetic, it was low 551 00:30:17,075 --> 00:30:19,509 and relatively constant prevalence. 552 00:30:19,542 --> 00:30:21,642 The more I learned, the more clear was 553 00:30:21,676 --> 00:30:25,008 that that whole orthodox view was false. 554 00:30:25,042 --> 00:30:25,975 Completely false. 555 00:30:26,008 --> 00:30:28,209 Revolutions only happen in science 556 00:30:28,242 --> 00:30:30,075 when there is an anomaly. 557 00:30:30,109 --> 00:30:33,075 An anomaly that the old orthodoxy can't explain. 558 00:30:33,109 --> 00:30:34,576 With autism, the anomaly was the explosion in cases, 559 00:30:34,609 --> 00:30:36,875 which meant that what people were trying to describe 560 00:30:36,908 --> 00:30:40,242 as a genetic, neurologically based condition couldn't 561 00:30:40,275 --> 00:30:41,509 be genetic. 562 00:30:41,542 --> 00:30:42,875 It could only be environmental. 563 00:30:42,908 --> 00:30:44,275 It could only be some set of things 564 00:30:44,309 --> 00:30:46,109 that happened to children. 565 00:30:46,142 --> 00:30:50,642 And you had to ask the question what might it have been? 566 00:30:54,309 --> 00:30:58,542 One of my personal training clients was the Director 567 00:30:58,576 --> 00:31:02,309 of Programs for LWT London Weekend Television. 568 00:31:02,342 --> 00:31:05,776 And this guy said why don't you do a program, 569 00:31:05,809 --> 00:31:08,743 and people out there, there may be someone 570 00:31:08,776 --> 00:31:10,142 out there with this condition. 571 00:31:10,175 --> 00:31:12,709 He said this is going to be an unbelievable story. 572 00:31:12,743 --> 00:31:14,809 And we thought we've got nothing to lose, right now, 573 00:31:14,843 --> 00:31:18,008 this child is either going to kill himself because he's going 574 00:31:18,042 --> 00:31:20,843 to smash his head to pieces, or we're going to go insane, 575 00:31:20,875 --> 00:31:22,809 because everybody here is miserable. 576 00:31:22,843 --> 00:31:30,576 That program was aired, and we received 250,000 email hits. 577 00:31:30,609 --> 00:31:32,509 Computers were kind of new then, 578 00:31:32,542 --> 00:31:34,042 the whole internet computer thing. 579 00:31:34,075 --> 00:31:35,442 Ours crashed. 580 00:31:35,476 --> 00:31:37,509 We set up a Billy website, you know, just in case somebody... 581 00:31:37,542 --> 00:31:40,109 one person, might be able to help us. 582 00:31:40,142 --> 00:31:42,908 Crashed. The television station's computers crashed. 583 00:31:42,942 --> 00:31:46,409 They had never seen anything like this before. 584 00:31:46,442 --> 00:31:50,776 The parents had exactly the same story as us. 585 00:31:50,809 --> 00:31:54,442 Antibiotics, some with chicken pox, a lot vaccine. 586 00:31:54,476 --> 00:31:57,642 Bang, the symptoms all the same. 587 00:31:57,676 --> 00:32:01,776 The diarrhea, the constipation, the high-pitched scream, 588 00:32:01,809 --> 00:32:04,175 the banging of the head, we've all lived through it. 589 00:32:04,209 --> 00:32:05,576 It was the same story. 590 00:32:05,609 --> 00:32:09,242 And it was Polly's idea to put all of this stuff together 591 00:32:09,275 --> 00:32:12,809 in a magazine called The Autism File. 592 00:32:12,843 --> 00:32:16,376 They all ask the questions, and maybe someone can help. 593 00:32:16,409 --> 00:32:20,843 These questions from these parents were not being answered 594 00:32:20,875 --> 00:32:23,975 by the doctors that they went to see. 595 00:32:24,008 --> 00:32:26,576 They came to us out of desperation, 596 00:32:26,609 --> 00:32:31,109 and we had 45,000 subscribers within four months. 597 00:32:34,676 --> 00:32:38,609 When I originally got the MMR autism data, 598 00:32:38,642 --> 00:32:42,075 I came up with my own analysis plan, and I stepped 599 00:32:42,109 --> 00:32:43,809 through logically 600 00:32:43,843 --> 00:32:47,376 and systematically how the data should have been approached. 601 00:32:47,409 --> 00:32:52,109 I looked first of all at males versus females. 602 00:32:52,142 --> 00:32:55,875 Then I looked at black males, the relative risk 603 00:32:55,908 --> 00:33:00,142 of them receiving an autism diagnosis was astronomical, 604 00:33:00,175 --> 00:33:02,709 and it was highly statistically significant. 605 00:33:02,743 --> 00:33:06,442 I really had to scratch my head and say I know nothing 606 00:33:06,476 --> 00:33:08,242 about the MMR vaccine. 607 00:33:08,275 --> 00:33:11,709 And so that's when I originally called Andy. 608 00:33:11,743 --> 00:33:15,242 Wow, really? 609 00:33:15,275 --> 00:33:16,942 After everything that had happened, 610 00:33:16,975 --> 00:33:18,875 everything that we had all been through, 611 00:33:18,908 --> 00:33:22,975 everything the families had suffered for the last 15 years, 612 00:33:23,008 --> 00:33:28,975 and the CDC had known all along there was this MMR autism risk. 613 00:33:29,008 --> 00:33:32,309 As I started to divulge more of the conversations, 614 00:33:32,342 --> 00:33:38,576 and I think it really hit him, that this was a major crack 615 00:33:38,609 --> 00:33:41,008 in the wall of the CDC. 616 00:33:41,042 --> 00:33:44,542 The first thing that Thompson did was to plot a graph. 617 00:33:44,576 --> 00:33:49,309 A graph of percentage of children vaccinated against age 618 00:33:49,342 --> 00:33:51,809 at first MMR vaccination. 619 00:33:51,843 --> 00:33:55,075 The children with autism are represented by the pink line. 620 00:33:55,109 --> 00:33:57,609 The children without autism by the blue line. 621 00:33:57,642 --> 00:34:00,709 Now, if there's no link between early MMR and autism, 622 00:34:00,743 --> 00:34:03,209 those two lines should track together, 623 00:34:03,242 --> 00:34:04,676 whatever the age at first MMR. 624 00:34:04,709 --> 00:34:07,542 And they do track again. 625 00:34:07,576 --> 00:34:10,075 Until they get to 15 months, then they separate, 626 00:34:10,109 --> 00:34:13,908 then they continue to separate thereafter. 627 00:34:13,942 --> 00:34:16,275 This was their first indication 628 00:34:16,309 --> 00:34:19,342 that MMR vaccine was causing autism. 629 00:34:19,376 --> 00:34:22,576 And that finding alone rocked Thompson back on his heels. 630 00:34:22,609 --> 00:34:25,743 This was a huge issue for Andy. 631 00:34:25,776 --> 00:34:28,776 So I said to Brian, Brian are you recording 632 00:34:28,809 --> 00:34:30,275 these conversations? 633 00:34:30,309 --> 00:34:33,908 Recording phone conversations was not really palatable to me. 634 00:34:33,942 --> 00:34:35,376 Almost seemed cruel. 635 00:34:35,409 --> 00:34:39,309 Whistle blowers can disappear as easily as they came. 636 00:34:39,342 --> 00:34:42,209 They're like a fish on a hook, and your job is 637 00:34:42,242 --> 00:34:44,109 to get them into the boat. 638 00:34:49,609 --> 00:34:52,342 Temple walked at 12 months, so he had been walking 639 00:34:52,376 --> 00:34:54,809 for an entire month before we went 640 00:34:54,843 --> 00:34:57,743 in for the next set of vaccinations. 641 00:34:57,776 --> 00:35:00,676 The minute we walked into the pediatric office, 642 00:35:00,709 --> 00:35:05,175 Lou, his twin, she is screaming her head off, 643 00:35:05,209 --> 00:35:07,409 I mean she knows what's going on. 644 00:35:07,442 --> 00:35:09,476 She doesn't want the doctor touching her. 645 00:35:09,509 --> 00:35:12,409 I look up, and there's she's got the shots lined up, 646 00:35:12,442 --> 00:35:14,875 three for him, three for her. 647 00:35:14,908 --> 00:35:18,542 By the second shot, Lucinda had flipped herself over, 648 00:35:18,576 --> 00:35:22,609 so I had to stop looking at what I was doing, 649 00:35:22,642 --> 00:35:24,442 unstrap her, get her out. 650 00:35:24,476 --> 00:35:26,075 Well, the minute I get her out and I calm her 651 00:35:26,109 --> 00:35:29,542 down a little bit, and I look over, he's screaming, 652 00:35:29,576 --> 00:35:32,075 I look at the shots, and I notice 653 00:35:32,109 --> 00:35:35,008 that one of hers was gone. 654 00:35:35,042 --> 00:35:36,776 There are only two shots left for her. 655 00:35:36,809 --> 00:35:40,309 And I asked the nurse practitioner, I said, 656 00:35:40,342 --> 00:35:41,743 what happened to that other shot? 657 00:35:41,776 --> 00:35:45,275 She says "Oh, oh my goodness, I gave it to him." 658 00:35:45,309 --> 00:35:47,175 I said which one was it? 659 00:35:47,209 --> 00:35:49,309 She said it was the other MMR. 660 00:35:49,342 --> 00:35:50,908 I said call the doctor. 661 00:35:50,942 --> 00:35:53,209 This baby is screaming his head off. 662 00:35:53,242 --> 00:35:54,609 You've given him an extra shot. 663 00:35:54,642 --> 00:35:57,209 I don't know what the effect of that is going to be. 664 00:35:57,242 --> 00:35:57,942 We're leaving. 665 00:35:57,975 --> 00:35:58,975 And I left. 666 00:35:59,008 --> 00:36:00,676 So she never got her shots. 667 00:36:00,709 --> 00:36:03,942 I go home, this baby cried, cried, cried. 668 00:36:03,975 --> 00:36:06,275 I put him down on his little blanket, 669 00:36:06,309 --> 00:36:08,376 he starts banging his head on the floor, 670 00:36:08,409 --> 00:36:10,709 banging his head on the floor. 671 00:36:10,743 --> 00:36:16,209 The next morning, I go in his room, and he's staring 672 00:36:16,242 --> 00:36:18,709 into space, and he's looking around like this. 673 00:36:18,743 --> 00:36:24,109 As if, you know, he's a bit paralyzed. 674 00:36:24,142 --> 00:36:27,142 Not the baby who was always doing this every morning, 675 00:36:27,175 --> 00:36:29,642 smiling for me to get him out of bed. 676 00:36:29,676 --> 00:36:34,676 And I pick him up, and he does this. 677 00:36:34,709 --> 00:36:38,275 And I said, what has happened to my baby? 678 00:36:38,309 --> 00:36:39,609 So I call the clinic. 679 00:36:39,642 --> 00:36:44,309 And I said I think my child has had an adverse reaction 680 00:36:44,342 --> 00:36:46,809 to those shots yesterday. 681 00:36:46,843 --> 00:36:49,008 She says "No, no, no. 682 00:36:49,042 --> 00:36:51,642 I'm waiting for the representative from Merck. 683 00:36:51,676 --> 00:36:53,576 I don't think it's a reaction to that." 684 00:37:00,542 --> 00:37:03,576 Bill Thompson looked at African Americans, 685 00:37:03,609 --> 00:37:07,242 he saw that those African Americans that got the MMR 686 00:37:07,275 --> 00:37:10,975 on time were 2.64 times more likely 687 00:37:11,008 --> 00:37:14,709 to get an autism diagnosis than those African Americans 688 00:37:14,743 --> 00:37:17,275 that receive the MMR after three years of age. 689 00:37:17,309 --> 00:37:20,908 So what Bill is suggesting is that among the blacks, 690 00:37:20,942 --> 00:37:24,442 the ones that were getting vaccinated earlier were more 691 00:37:24,476 --> 00:37:25,942 likely to have autism. 692 00:37:25,975 --> 00:37:30,209 At that point, the group of researchers that was working 693 00:37:30,242 --> 00:37:33,442 on this particular study they were having weekly meetings. 694 00:37:33,476 --> 00:37:36,476 Coleen Boyle, who was the head 695 00:37:36,509 --> 00:37:39,409 of developmental disabilities branch 696 00:37:39,442 --> 00:37:41,542 and Marshalyn Yeargin-Allsop, 697 00:37:41,576 --> 00:37:44,008 who was one of Thompson's direct supervisors. 698 00:37:44,042 --> 00:37:46,642 Frank DeStefano, who was the head 699 00:37:46,676 --> 00:37:48,809 of the Immunization Safety Office, 700 00:37:48,843 --> 00:37:53,042 and a post-doctoral research associate named Tanya Bhasin. 701 00:37:53,075 --> 00:37:56,042 In that meeting, Thompson brought up the fact 702 00:37:56,075 --> 00:38:01,042 that African Americans were showing a highly statistically 703 00:38:01,075 --> 00:38:05,676 significant risk of autism if they got the MMR on time. 704 00:38:05,709 --> 00:38:09,275 What is said in these closed door meetings? 705 00:38:09,309 --> 00:38:12,476 I mean, do people say well oh, this is unacceptable, 706 00:38:12,509 --> 00:38:15,676 or is it just do they always say oh this can't be right? 707 00:38:15,709 --> 00:38:16,376 Or? 708 00:38:16,409 --> 00:38:17,609 I'm not going to lie. 709 00:38:17,642 --> 00:38:22,409 But I also don't want to say things to you right now 710 00:38:22,442 --> 00:38:28,242 that aren't, that aren't some written form. 711 00:38:28,275 --> 00:38:29,609 Right. 712 00:38:29,642 --> 00:38:35,175 The analysis regarding the African Americans was the 8 713 00:38:35,209 --> 00:38:40,975 on the Richter scale earthquake that just shook through the CDC. 714 00:38:41,008 --> 00:38:45,275 I take him to see the pediatrician that I know. 715 00:38:45,309 --> 00:38:48,609 And she looks at me, she closes the door, and she whispers. 716 00:38:48,642 --> 00:38:51,942 She says, "Sheila, I believe he has autism." 717 00:38:51,975 --> 00:38:52,942 I said, "What? 718 00:38:52,975 --> 00:38:54,942 Like Rainman?" 719 00:38:54,975 --> 00:38:56,776 She says, "Something like that. 720 00:38:56,809 --> 00:38:59,309 I'm going to refer y'all to a neurologist." 721 00:38:59,342 --> 00:39:02,642 And we go see the neurologist the next week. 722 00:39:02,676 --> 00:39:07,509 He says he has every classical symptom of autism. 723 00:39:07,542 --> 00:39:08,642 I do not believe this. 724 00:39:08,676 --> 00:39:09,776 I was angry. 725 00:39:09,809 --> 00:39:13,175 When he explained it to me what autism is, 726 00:39:13,209 --> 00:39:14,776 he told me he was born that way. 727 00:39:14,809 --> 00:39:16,776 I said, no he wasn't. 728 00:39:16,809 --> 00:39:19,142 Clearly, there was a very high risk of autism 729 00:39:19,175 --> 00:39:20,476 in African American children. 730 00:39:20,509 --> 00:39:21,776 Here's the thing. 731 00:39:21,809 --> 00:39:24,576 We know that autism is four times more common in boys. 732 00:39:24,609 --> 00:39:26,442 And so to see that effect mirrored 733 00:39:26,476 --> 00:39:29,875 in the African American children was a compelling finding. 734 00:39:29,908 --> 00:39:33,908 When I looked at African American males only, 735 00:39:33,942 --> 00:39:36,609 the relative risk was 3.36. 736 00:39:36,642 --> 00:39:38,275 It just blew my mind. 737 00:39:38,309 --> 00:39:42,576 And that's when I wanted to call Bill Thompson on the phone. 738 00:39:42,609 --> 00:39:44,442 And his statement to me was "Oh! 739 00:39:44,476 --> 00:39:45,709 You found it." 740 00:39:45,743 --> 00:39:49,809 It appears in the final publication is that race 741 00:39:49,843 --> 00:39:51,342 in general is downplayed. 742 00:39:51,376 --> 00:39:53,576 Of course it is! 743 00:40:06,142 --> 00:40:08,342 Temple's twin is amazing. 744 00:40:08,376 --> 00:40:11,642 She is fluent in three languages. 745 00:40:11,676 --> 00:40:14,342 She speaks French like a native. 746 00:40:14,376 --> 00:40:17,242 She is an A student. 747 00:40:17,275 --> 00:40:20,309 She plays classical piano. 748 00:40:20,342 --> 00:40:24,509 With all of the guilt that I feel from that day, 749 00:40:24,542 --> 00:40:28,342 one of the best decisions I made for her was to walk out of 750 00:40:28,376 --> 00:40:30,642 that office without her being vaccinated. 751 00:40:30,676 --> 00:40:34,908 At the end of this journey, I don't want to be one 752 00:40:34,942 --> 00:40:37,409 of those mothers standing there saying I wish, I would have, 753 00:40:37,442 --> 00:40:39,109 could have, should have done. 754 00:40:39,142 --> 00:40:44,175 I want to be able to say I gave it everything that I had. 755 00:40:44,209 --> 00:40:45,743 I gave it my best shot. 756 00:40:45,776 --> 00:40:50,776 His twin is going into the 11th grade and for someone 757 00:40:50,809 --> 00:40:53,542 who still can't manage to cross the street. 758 00:40:53,576 --> 00:40:56,476 Now, am I grateful he's here? 759 00:40:56,509 --> 00:41:00,109 You bet. I'm grateful my son lived , 760 00:41:00,142 --> 00:41:06,376 I was so naïve that he would live a fulfilling life. 761 00:41:06,409 --> 00:41:11,209 He would end up being a happy man. 762 00:41:11,242 --> 00:41:13,843 Having a family. 763 00:41:13,875 --> 00:41:15,509 My dreams for him. 764 00:41:15,542 --> 00:41:24,576 And every year that goes by, the older my son gets, 765 00:41:25,542 --> 00:41:29,109 the further that dream seems to be. 766 00:41:30,209 --> 00:41:33,309 All about vaccines! 767 00:41:33,342 --> 00:41:35,875 So what do vaccines do? 768 00:41:35,908 --> 00:41:37,875 Vaccines build up your immune system 769 00:41:37,908 --> 00:41:39,809 and make you stronger to fight off disease. 770 00:41:39,843 --> 00:41:41,609 Are vaccines safe? 771 00:41:41,642 --> 00:41:43,476 Yes. The studies involving millions 772 00:41:43,509 --> 00:41:45,609 of children have shown no connection 773 00:41:45,642 --> 00:41:47,342 between vaccines and autism. 774 00:41:47,376 --> 00:41:50,209 Stick to the schedule. 775 00:41:50,242 --> 00:41:53,242 The CDC's own vaccine schedule, which we are required 776 00:41:53,275 --> 00:41:56,242 to adhere to as parents in America recommends 777 00:41:56,275 --> 00:42:00,509 that our children get the MMR between 12 and 18 months. 778 00:42:00,542 --> 00:42:03,042 But in this hidden data, provided to us 779 00:42:03,075 --> 00:42:07,242 by William Thompson, it is clear that for African Americans, 780 00:42:07,275 --> 00:42:09,442 this is actually the most dangerous time 781 00:42:09,476 --> 00:42:10,975 to deliver the MMR. 782 00:42:11,008 --> 00:42:13,642 The CDC in my opinion is one of the- 783 00:42:13,676 --> 00:42:15,376 where I go to if I need information 784 00:42:15,409 --> 00:42:16,509 about an infectious disease. 785 00:42:16,542 --> 00:42:19,109 I probably either go on their website, 786 00:42:19,142 --> 00:42:22,642 or open one of the reference books every day. 787 00:42:22,676 --> 00:42:25,409 That building is filled with a lot of scientists 788 00:42:25,442 --> 00:42:27,442 that are smarter than me. 789 00:42:37,509 --> 00:42:40,175 The analysis plan is one of the most important parts 790 00:42:40,209 --> 00:42:41,908 of the scientific study. 791 00:42:41,942 --> 00:42:45,642 It's the laws or the rules by which the scientist will adhere 792 00:42:45,676 --> 00:42:47,809 to while doing the study. 793 00:42:47,843 --> 00:42:50,209 And this analysis plan is put together 794 00:42:50,242 --> 00:42:51,542 by the scientists themselves. 795 00:42:51,576 --> 00:42:53,609 Sometimes their superior's way in. 796 00:42:53,642 --> 00:42:57,209 But once they've locked that analysis plan. 797 00:42:57,242 --> 00:43:00,242 They said this is how we are going to use the data. 798 00:43:00,275 --> 00:43:03,676 And you can't deviate from that analysis plan, 799 00:43:03,709 --> 00:43:05,409 or you're at risk for fraud. 800 00:43:05,442 --> 00:43:06,809 Scientific fraud. 801 00:43:06,843 --> 00:43:09,275 Did they deviate from the analysis plan 802 00:43:09,309 --> 00:43:12,042 after seeing something they didn't like? 803 00:43:12,075 --> 00:43:15,342 If they did, we have a real problem. 804 00:43:15,376 --> 00:43:18,908 Thompson not only played a major role 805 00:43:18,942 --> 00:43:23,008 in developing the analysis plan, he was the numbers guy. 806 00:43:23,042 --> 00:43:26,042 He was responsible for collecting the data, 807 00:43:26,075 --> 00:43:28,875 analyzing the data, and presenting the results, 808 00:43:28,908 --> 00:43:32,676 and by November 2001, the results were in. 809 00:43:32,709 --> 00:43:36,542 Now with the MMR autism one, the- 810 00:43:36,576 --> 00:43:42,409 we had an analysis plan that we were supposed to execute, 811 00:43:42,442 --> 00:43:45,175 and it was written, and you know, 812 00:43:45,209 --> 00:43:48,709 I'm going to be sharing these draft analysis plans 813 00:43:48,743 --> 00:43:50,042 that we had. 814 00:43:50,075 --> 00:43:52,809 And you can see whether we did what we were going to do. 815 00:43:52,843 --> 00:43:55,642 That analysis plan had been agreed upon, 816 00:43:55,676 --> 00:43:59,609 not only by the co-authors, but also by CDC superiors. 817 00:43:59,642 --> 00:44:02,209 In order to conceal the effect of the MMR, what they had 818 00:44:02,242 --> 00:44:06,242 to do was reduce the number of children in the study in order 819 00:44:06,275 --> 00:44:10,609 to reduce what is referred to as the statistical power. 820 00:44:10,642 --> 00:44:14,509 That is, the ability of the study to detect a difference 821 00:44:14,542 --> 00:44:16,309 if one genuinely exists. 822 00:44:16,342 --> 00:44:18,342 In the analysis plan, they had agreed 823 00:44:18,376 --> 00:44:20,609 to use two sources of information. 824 00:44:20,642 --> 00:44:22,676 The first was the children's school records, 825 00:44:22,709 --> 00:44:24,809 and the second was the children's Georgia birth 826 00:44:24,843 --> 00:44:26,109 certificate records. 827 00:44:26,142 --> 00:44:28,776 So while every child in the study had a school record, 828 00:44:28,809 --> 00:44:30,042 only half of the children 829 00:44:30,075 --> 00:44:31,709 in the study had a Georgia birth certificate record, 830 00:44:31,743 --> 00:44:34,809 because the other half had been born in other states. 831 00:44:34,843 --> 00:44:36,843 So the analysis plan was explicit. 832 00:44:36,875 --> 00:44:39,142 Information on a child's race was to come 833 00:44:39,175 --> 00:44:41,008 from their school record. 834 00:44:41,042 --> 00:44:44,676 But when confronted by data that revealed an increased risk 835 00:44:44,709 --> 00:44:47,609 of autism in African American children, they deviated 836 00:44:47,642 --> 00:44:49,275 from their analysis plan. 837 00:44:49,309 --> 00:44:52,776 They chose to get the race data not from the school record, 838 00:44:52,809 --> 00:44:54,975 but from the Georgia birth certificate record. 839 00:44:55,008 --> 00:44:58,142 Instead of having 3,000 individuals in the study, 840 00:44:58,175 --> 00:45:01,209 it went down to about 1,800. 841 00:45:01,242 --> 00:45:06,142 The relative risk went down from 2.64 to 1.8, 842 00:45:06,175 --> 00:45:07,942 but more importantly, 843 00:45:07,975 --> 00:45:11,642 that relative risk was no longer statistically significant. 844 00:45:11,676 --> 00:45:14,409 And I'll ask you to step forward to receive your prize 845 00:45:14,442 --> 00:45:16,576 from the hands of His Majesty, the King. 846 00:45:22,142 --> 00:45:25,109 I am Luc Montangier, M.D. 847 00:46:24,875 --> 00:46:27,509 Shortly after Julie Gerberding became head 848 00:46:27,542 --> 00:46:28,642 of the CDC, 849 00:46:28,676 --> 00:46:30,942 I began to communicate with her 850 00:46:30,975 --> 00:46:33,042 and ask her to come to my office. 851 00:46:33,075 --> 00:46:37,242 There didn't seem to be objective research going on. 852 00:46:37,275 --> 00:46:42,576 There was the CDC trying to promote vaccination 853 00:46:42,609 --> 00:46:45,642 for children, and then they were doing the safety 854 00:46:45,676 --> 00:46:47,109 research themselves. 855 00:46:47,142 --> 00:46:50,342 In CDC's judgment, the best public policy is 856 00:46:50,376 --> 00:46:53,309 to continue vaccination unchanged, 857 00:46:53,342 --> 00:46:56,942 while aggressively working to try to identify causes 858 00:46:56,975 --> 00:46:59,042 of developmental disabilities. 859 00:46:59,075 --> 00:47:02,908 The CDC, I just thought, was institutionally conflicted. 860 00:47:02,942 --> 00:47:05,275 The CDC can't take money directly from pharma, 861 00:47:05,309 --> 00:47:06,908 but they can set up a foundation, 862 00:47:06,942 --> 00:47:09,642 and the foundation can attract donations 863 00:47:09,676 --> 00:47:11,676 from commercial interests, and does. 864 00:47:11,709 --> 00:47:15,442 Merck, Glaxo-Smith-Kline, now Pfizer, Sanofi Aventis, 865 00:47:15,476 --> 00:47:19,209 have huge, multi-billion dollar vaccine businesses. 866 00:47:19,242 --> 00:47:20,609 They're profitable. 867 00:47:20,642 --> 00:47:24,309 They promote them because some of these new high-tech vaccines, 868 00:47:24,342 --> 00:47:27,809 that are patented, that are high priced, get protected 869 00:47:27,843 --> 00:47:31,609 by this little cocoon of regulatory capture in HHS. 870 00:47:31,642 --> 00:47:36,743 And are guaranteed multi-billion dollar franchises. 871 00:47:36,776 --> 00:47:40,142 When I was working at Merck, I was a sales rep for Vioxx. 872 00:47:40,175 --> 00:47:42,609 The whole scandal started when it was discovered 873 00:47:42,642 --> 00:47:46,509 that Merck had manipulated data and covered up the fact 874 00:47:46,542 --> 00:47:49,576 that Vioxx actually caused twice the amount of heart attacks 875 00:47:49,609 --> 00:47:51,542 and strokes than the placebo. 876 00:47:51,576 --> 00:47:53,576 What I learned from that experience, 877 00:47:53,609 --> 00:47:54,676 just because things are 878 00:47:54,709 --> 00:47:57,809 on the market does not mean they are safe. 879 00:48:00,442 --> 00:48:02,843 I think we get into a very dangerous territory 880 00:48:02,875 --> 00:48:04,242 with vaccinations. 881 00:48:04,275 --> 00:48:07,409 If a drug company gets just one vaccine added to the schedule, 882 00:48:07,442 --> 00:48:11,209 they can make upwards of $30 billion in one year. 883 00:48:11,242 --> 00:48:12,609 It's no secret. 884 00:48:12,642 --> 00:48:14,776 I think they've published their intention, which is they want 885 00:48:14,809 --> 00:48:17,008 to create an environment 886 00:48:17,042 --> 00:48:20,175 of constant vaccination from cradle to grave. 887 00:48:20,209 --> 00:48:23,476 They want infant vaccines they expanded flu shots, 888 00:48:23,509 --> 00:48:28,042 DTAP boosters, Gardasil shots, meningococcal shots, 889 00:48:28,075 --> 00:48:31,376 they want adult vaccines, you know, they want you and me 890 00:48:31,409 --> 00:48:35,008 to come in and get a constant barrage of shots, 891 00:48:35,042 --> 00:48:37,376 and then they want vaccines for the elderly. 892 00:48:37,409 --> 00:48:39,875 We have highly profitable product, 893 00:48:39,908 --> 00:48:42,542 because the safety testing isn't as rigorous 894 00:48:42,576 --> 00:48:44,309 as a normal pharmaceutical drug. 895 00:48:44,342 --> 00:48:46,209 The gold standard is double blind, 896 00:48:46,242 --> 00:48:48,942 placebo-based long-term study. 897 00:48:48,975 --> 00:48:52,709 And that just isn't done with vaccines, 898 00:48:52,743 --> 00:48:54,942 because they're classified in a different way 899 00:48:54,975 --> 00:48:57,743 as a public health measure, and they haven't been tested 900 00:48:57,776 --> 00:49:01,676 in combination with other vaccines, yet doctors give six 901 00:49:01,709 --> 00:49:03,908 to nine doses per visit. 902 00:49:03,942 --> 00:49:05,042 It's insane. 903 00:49:05,075 --> 00:49:08,409 If a pharmaceutical drug was tested like this, 904 00:49:08,442 --> 00:49:09,743 it wouldn't be on the market. 905 00:49:09,776 --> 00:49:11,175 But because it's a vaccine, 906 00:49:11,209 --> 00:49:14,743 and the safety testing is less rigorous, 907 00:49:14,776 --> 00:49:17,008 our children are being experimented on. 908 00:49:17,042 --> 00:49:18,576 I don't like to look at autism 909 00:49:18,609 --> 00:49:20,042 from a behavioral perspective. 910 00:49:20,075 --> 00:49:23,875 I look at it more from what causes it in each child. 911 00:49:23,908 --> 00:49:27,809 When I want to define autism, I have to say it's the inability 912 00:49:27,843 --> 00:49:29,975 to detoxify the way you're supposed to, 913 00:49:30,008 --> 00:49:32,843 at the rate you're supposed to, and it all has to do 914 00:49:32,875 --> 00:49:34,542 with this toxic overload. 915 00:49:34,576 --> 00:49:36,942 These children are not detoxifying 916 00:49:36,975 --> 00:49:38,409 from the vaccinations. 917 00:49:38,442 --> 00:49:42,942 Same thing with GMO products, the pesticides in our food. 918 00:49:42,975 --> 00:49:47,142 If I can prevent the child from being exposed to more toxins, 919 00:49:47,175 --> 00:49:49,609 then when I'm teaching the child, 920 00:49:49,642 --> 00:49:51,342 at least the child is getting better, 921 00:49:51,376 --> 00:49:54,008 and not continuously getting worse. 922 00:49:54,042 --> 00:49:55,142 Without a doubt, what's happened 923 00:49:55,175 --> 00:49:56,843 to Billy has changed his life. 924 00:50:00,875 --> 00:50:01,776 I did it! 925 00:50:01,809 --> 00:50:03,242 There you go, you got a strike! 926 00:50:03,275 --> 00:50:06,476 What I have on my hands now a 19-year-old man, 927 00:50:06,509 --> 00:50:09,509 he's 6 foot 2, he is volatile. 928 00:50:09,542 --> 00:50:12,776 On good days, Billy is as brilliant as an angel. 929 00:50:12,809 --> 00:50:15,676 On bad days the slightest thing can trigger him, and he's scary. 930 00:50:15,709 --> 00:50:18,975 I'm going to go downstairs and get daddy right now. 931 00:50:19,008 --> 00:50:20,309 No, you need to stay up here, okay? 932 00:50:20,342 --> 00:50:23,442 I'm going to kill daddy right now! 933 00:50:23,476 --> 00:50:24,776 Bill, listen to me. 934 00:50:24,809 --> 00:50:27,908 I'm going to stay up here, we're going to calm down okay? 935 00:50:29,209 --> 00:50:30,743 The reason they become aggressive, and dangerous 936 00:50:30,776 --> 00:50:35,642 in some cases, is because they have no ability to communicate. 937 00:50:35,676 --> 00:50:41,409 Because mummy asked Kent, but Kent bring the sweet corn, 938 00:50:41,442 --> 00:50:44,242 then bring in the chickens here. 939 00:50:44,275 --> 00:50:46,075 Here, this is your fault, mummy. 940 00:50:46,109 --> 00:50:49,242 If you're not able to express your needs, your wants, 941 00:50:49,275 --> 00:50:52,609 your desires, your happiness and sadness and so on, 942 00:50:52,642 --> 00:50:53,809 you would become aggressive. 943 00:50:53,843 --> 00:50:57,843 That's often when we see the worst part of autism. 944 00:51:04,175 --> 00:51:07,309 We have to occupy his room and use his video player, 945 00:51:07,342 --> 00:51:10,776 and of course, that is a massive intrusion in his space, 946 00:51:10,809 --> 00:51:13,875 and he got very upset. 947 00:51:13,908 --> 00:51:17,242 Where else in this house can we play a video? 948 00:51:17,275 --> 00:51:22,209 Remember? Listen, Bill reduce the stress level. 949 00:51:22,242 --> 00:51:23,642 No! Don't hurt Daddy. 950 00:51:23,676 --> 00:51:26,175 Out there, there's millions of me's, there's millions 951 00:51:26,209 --> 00:51:28,942 of Polly Tommey's with vaccine damaged children. 952 00:51:28,975 --> 00:51:32,309 I'm telling you this, because I do not want you 953 00:51:32,342 --> 00:51:34,042 to live the life that I've led. 954 00:51:34,075 --> 00:51:35,908 I don't want you to go through the pain. 955 00:51:35,942 --> 00:51:38,709 I do not want to see you suffer, or your family suffer. 956 00:51:38,743 --> 00:51:39,809 That is why I'm telling you. 957 00:51:39,843 --> 00:51:41,709 I've no other reason to tell you about it. 958 00:51:41,743 --> 00:51:44,709 It's not my concern, my kid's already damaged. 959 00:51:52,975 --> 00:51:55,376 I am a senior research scientist here at MIT, 960 00:51:55,409 --> 00:51:56,442 in the computer science 961 00:51:56,476 --> 00:51:58,542 and artificial intelligence laboratory. 962 00:51:58,576 --> 00:52:01,709 I have a Bachelor's degree in biology from MIT, 963 00:52:01,743 --> 00:52:05,175 and I have MSEE and PhD degrees, also from MIT 964 00:52:05,209 --> 00:52:08,275 in electrical engineering and computer science. 965 00:52:08,309 --> 00:52:10,843 I became interested in autism a long time ago 966 00:52:10,875 --> 00:52:13,942 when my best friend at the time had a son who was diagnosed 967 00:52:13,975 --> 00:52:17,409 with autism following a DPT shot. 968 00:52:17,442 --> 00:52:20,275 He had a high fever after the shot, seizures a week later, 969 00:52:20,309 --> 00:52:23,075 and was later diagnosed with autism. 970 00:52:23,109 --> 00:52:25,776 We have to accept the fact that autism is new. 971 00:52:25,809 --> 00:52:28,875 That before 1930, the rate of autism 972 00:52:28,908 --> 00:52:30,942 in the world was effectively zero. 973 00:52:30,975 --> 00:52:33,975 And then for a long time it was 1 in 10,000. 974 00:52:34,008 --> 00:52:36,843 I got interested in studying autism eight years ago 975 00:52:36,908 --> 00:52:39,709 when I saw the numbers go up, and I was quite alarmed, 976 00:52:39,743 --> 00:52:42,743 because I could see that the trend was exponential growth. 977 00:52:42,776 --> 00:52:45,242 And exponential growth is extremely scary. 978 00:52:45,275 --> 00:52:48,942 Since really the mid-to late 80s, 979 00:52:48,975 --> 00:52:51,175 we've gone from this low-prevalence environment 980 00:52:51,209 --> 00:52:55,409 to a rate of increase where the trend is still vertical. 981 00:52:55,442 --> 00:52:58,109 We have not seen a flattening in trend. 982 00:52:58,142 --> 00:53:00,342 Every couple of years, the CDC provides a number 983 00:53:00,376 --> 00:53:03,442 of what percentage of kids are diagnosed with autism. 984 00:53:03,476 --> 00:53:06,242 And you've got the dots going all the way back to 1975. 985 00:53:06,275 --> 00:53:09,809 You draw the line, it is a perfect exponential curve. 986 00:53:09,843 --> 00:53:13,843 If we assume that things are going to continue as they have, 987 00:53:13,875 --> 00:53:17,442 for the past 30 years, into the future, we can predict 988 00:53:17,476 --> 00:53:22,109 that by 2032, 80% of the boys born will end 989 00:53:22,142 --> 00:53:24,175 up on the autism spectrum. 990 00:53:24,209 --> 00:53:26,309 Half the children, 80% of the boys. 991 00:53:46,908 --> 00:53:48,875 If you think the vaccine is only a problem 992 00:53:48,908 --> 00:53:51,809 for African American kids like me, you're wrong. 993 00:53:51,843 --> 00:53:54,042 There's an even bigger problem. 994 00:53:54,075 --> 00:53:58,743 One that puts all kids at risk, and it's called isolated autism. 995 00:54:06,275 --> 00:54:08,676 When the CDC researchers set out to do this study, 996 00:54:08,709 --> 00:54:10,709 they asked themselves the question 997 00:54:10,743 --> 00:54:13,509 if early MMR vaccine causes autism, 998 00:54:13,542 --> 00:54:18,542 in which children would we be most likely to find this effect? 999 00:54:18,576 --> 00:54:23,342 Their answer is children with no developmental concerns 1000 00:54:23,376 --> 00:54:24,576 for the first year of life. 1001 00:54:24,609 --> 00:54:26,942 Children who were perfectly healthy 1002 00:54:26,975 --> 00:54:30,942 until they received their MMR vaccine. 1003 00:54:30,975 --> 00:54:33,843 They called this group isolated autism. 1004 00:54:33,875 --> 00:54:39,042 Now, this does not refer to an isolated cause of autism, 1005 00:54:39,075 --> 00:54:41,242 or an isolated group with autism. 1006 00:54:41,275 --> 00:54:43,542 They isolated autism out, 1007 00:54:43,576 --> 00:54:48,242 so children who had no co-morbid conditions apart 1008 00:54:48,275 --> 00:54:49,975 from their autism. 1009 00:54:50,008 --> 00:54:52,442 No cerebral palsy. 1010 00:54:52,476 --> 00:54:54,042 No mental retardation. 1011 00:54:54,075 --> 00:54:55,776 No visual or hearing impairment. 1012 00:54:55,809 --> 00:55:00,376 No epilepsy, and no birth defects. 1013 00:55:00,409 --> 00:55:04,142 This risk group includes essentially every healthy child 1014 00:55:04,175 --> 00:55:05,609 in the world. 1015 00:55:06,875 --> 00:55:09,275 I'm a single father. 1016 00:55:09,309 --> 00:55:14,342 Raising a 15-year-old severely autistic, 1017 00:55:14,376 --> 00:55:17,509 non-verbal teenaged daughter. 1018 00:55:17,542 --> 00:55:20,342 When she was 15 months old, she received a round of vaccines 1019 00:55:20,376 --> 00:55:23,676 which included the MMR and DTAP. 1020 00:55:23,709 --> 00:55:25,175 She developed a high fever, 1021 00:55:25,209 --> 00:55:28,342 the fever broke, she lost everything. 1022 00:55:28,376 --> 00:55:30,209 My daughter was six weeks old when I took her 1023 00:55:30,242 --> 00:55:32,075 in for her vaccination. 1024 00:55:32,109 --> 00:55:35,409 Two hours later, she had a five minute seizure, and two hours 1025 00:55:35,442 --> 00:55:37,843 after that, she had another five minute seizure. 1026 00:55:37,875 --> 00:55:39,109 Mama's here. 1027 00:55:39,142 --> 00:55:40,743 Come on. Come on. 1028 00:55:40,776 --> 00:55:41,843 Come on, you're okay. 1029 00:55:41,875 --> 00:55:42,776 You're okay. 1030 00:55:42,809 --> 00:55:43,942 Come on baby. 1031 00:55:43,975 --> 00:55:45,743 Come on babe, you can do it. 1032 00:55:45,776 --> 00:55:46,309 Come on babe. 1033 00:55:46,342 --> 00:55:47,776 Come on out. 1034 00:55:47,809 --> 00:55:49,843 Come on. Come on baby. 1035 00:55:49,875 --> 00:55:51,476 Come on, keep breathing. 1036 00:55:51,509 --> 00:55:54,008 Come on, come on... The vaccination gave her severe 1037 00:55:54,042 --> 00:55:56,642 brain damage, and she had seizures every day for the rest 1038 00:55:56,676 --> 00:55:59,942 of her life until she died in my arms at the age of 15. 1039 00:55:59,975 --> 00:56:02,908 There is no good reason to choose not to get a vaccine. 1040 00:56:02,942 --> 00:56:06,576 He got his MMR, and he got his DTP, 1041 00:56:06,609 --> 00:56:08,709 and within days, he stopped talking. 1042 00:56:08,743 --> 00:56:10,875 Projectile vomiting, convulsions. 1043 00:56:10,908 --> 00:56:12,309 He went blind in his left eye. 1044 00:56:12,342 --> 00:56:18,075 Vaccines took our healthy, happy baby and made him unwell. 1045 00:56:18,109 --> 00:56:19,843 She lost all acquired speech. 1046 00:56:19,875 --> 00:56:22,542 He lost his speech, he lost his eye contact, 1047 00:56:22,576 --> 00:56:24,008 like the flick of a switch. 1048 00:56:24,042 --> 00:56:25,609 If vaccines were unsafe, 1049 00:56:25,642 --> 00:56:27,209 I think this would be an interesting 1050 00:56:27,242 --> 00:56:28,409 and reasonable discussion. 1051 00:56:28,442 --> 00:56:31,209 Obviously some minority get hurt by this stuff. 1052 00:56:31,242 --> 00:56:33,908 I don't understand why this is controversial. 1053 00:56:33,942 --> 00:56:35,342 Vaccines are safe. 1054 00:56:35,376 --> 00:56:36,642 Get vaccinated. 1055 00:56:36,676 --> 00:56:38,042 It's like, you know what? 1056 00:56:38,075 --> 00:56:41,743 Shut the fuck up and let me take every vaccine that Merck wants 1057 00:56:41,776 --> 00:56:42,975 to shove down my throat. 1058 00:56:43,008 --> 00:56:45,576 Autism is not a side effect of vaccine, 1059 00:56:45,609 --> 00:56:46,676 or to say it another way, 1060 00:56:46,709 --> 00:56:49,042 because some people don't hear this well, 1061 00:56:49,075 --> 00:56:51,642 vaccines do not cause autism. 1062 00:56:51,676 --> 00:56:52,776 Hear this well. 1063 00:56:52,809 --> 00:56:53,809 Hear this well. 1064 00:56:53,843 --> 00:56:54,709 Please hear this well. 1065 00:56:54,743 --> 00:56:55,743 Here this well. 1066 00:56:55,776 --> 00:56:58,676 Vaccines can and do cause autism. 1067 00:56:58,709 --> 00:57:00,008 My granddaughter Lilly... 1068 00:57:00,042 --> 00:57:00,843 My daughter... 1069 00:57:00,875 --> 00:57:02,409 My son was fully vaccinated. 1070 00:57:02,442 --> 00:57:03,576 My son, Jackson. 1071 00:57:03,609 --> 00:57:05,809 I had a healthy, typically developing boy. 1072 00:57:05,843 --> 00:57:07,843 Please, hear this well. 1073 00:57:07,875 --> 00:57:09,609 Vaccines cause autism. 1074 00:57:09,642 --> 00:57:13,442 One day, everyone will know the truth about vaccines. 1075 00:57:13,476 --> 00:57:15,709 Hear this well. 1076 00:57:20,175 --> 00:57:23,075 I honestly think the most interesting results are the 1077 00:57:23,109 --> 00:57:25,342 elevated ones, for the isolated, 1078 00:57:25,376 --> 00:57:28,542 ones that don't have other co-morbid conditions. 1079 00:57:28,576 --> 00:57:31,442 The effect is where you think it would happen. 1080 00:57:31,476 --> 00:57:36,175 In isolated autism, he saw a very, very strong effect, 1081 00:57:36,209 --> 00:57:39,376 specific to those kids that got the MMR on time. 1082 00:57:39,409 --> 00:57:42,642 When Bill Thompson ran those numbers, 1083 00:57:42,676 --> 00:57:44,975 he saw an astronomical effect. 1084 00:57:45,008 --> 00:57:46,743 Some of the numbers were actually... 1085 00:57:46,776 --> 00:57:52,376 the relative risks were as high as 7 or 8 times higher 1086 00:57:52,409 --> 00:57:54,809 with these kids that were diagnosed 1087 00:57:54,843 --> 00:57:58,975 with just isolated autism, no other diagnosis, 1088 00:57:59,008 --> 00:58:00,942 versus those controls. 1089 00:58:00,975 --> 00:58:05,376 Isolated autism is confusing, because it sounds small, 1090 00:58:05,409 --> 00:58:07,542 but it really is a big problem. 1091 00:58:07,576 --> 00:58:12,442 Because all healthy children no matter what race, are at risk. 1092 00:58:12,476 --> 00:58:16,376 For example, my sister is 18 months old, and she is supposed 1093 00:58:16,409 --> 00:58:18,642 to get her MMR shot right now. 1094 00:58:18,676 --> 00:58:22,843 But if she does, she is seven times more likely to get autism 1095 00:58:22,875 --> 00:58:27,576 than if my parents wait until after 3 years old. 1096 00:58:27,609 --> 00:58:30,942 So I hope my parents don't do it. 1097 00:58:30,975 --> 00:58:33,476 Here's what's really scary. 1098 00:58:33,509 --> 00:58:36,008 When we look at isolated autism, we see that there is 1099 00:58:36,042 --> 00:58:40,342 up to a seven-fold increase in the incidence of autism 1100 00:58:40,376 --> 00:58:43,008 between those that receive the vaccine between 12 1101 00:58:43,042 --> 00:58:46,342 and 18 months, versus those that got it after 3 years old. 1102 00:58:46,376 --> 00:58:48,175 But let's be perfectly clear. 1103 00:58:48,209 --> 00:58:52,908 Every child in the study had received the MMR vaccine. 1104 00:58:52,942 --> 00:58:56,075 What would the numbers be if you compared children 1105 00:58:56,109 --> 00:58:59,509 who got the vaccine between 12 and 18 months versus children 1106 00:58:59,542 --> 00:59:02,442 that never got the vaccine at all. 1107 00:59:02,476 --> 00:59:06,743 This is often referred to as the vax vs. unvax study. 1108 00:59:06,776 --> 00:59:10,075 CDC refuses to do this study. 1109 00:59:10,109 --> 00:59:12,843 Even though every drug that we take has been 1110 00:59:12,875 --> 00:59:14,476 through this exact study. 1111 00:59:14,509 --> 00:59:17,275 There is a group who take the drug, then they compare it 1112 00:59:17,309 --> 00:59:18,908 with a group who do not take the drug, 1113 00:59:18,942 --> 00:59:21,743 and they see there are more side effects and complications 1114 00:59:21,776 --> 00:59:23,908 with the group that takes the drug. 1115 00:59:23,942 --> 00:59:27,875 So why does the CDC refuse to do the vax vs. unvax study? 1116 00:59:27,908 --> 00:59:32,476 Probably because when we look at the results of this study, 1117 00:59:32,509 --> 00:59:36,509 we realize that the risk would be astronomical, and is likely 1118 00:59:36,542 --> 00:59:39,942 to be one of the major reasons we're seeing this skyrocketing 1119 00:59:39,975 --> 00:59:43,576 increase of autism, worldwide. 1120 00:59:46,042 --> 00:59:49,776 Just like the African American children, 1121 00:59:49,809 --> 00:59:54,242 they went into the room, and they sliced and diced the data, 1122 00:59:54,275 --> 00:59:56,209 in an effort to get rid of that effect. 1123 00:59:56,242 --> 00:59:59,676 This is Coleen Boyle's meeting notes, how they planned 1124 00:59:59,709 --> 01:00:02,908 to present the data by these age groups, that after the fact, 1125 01:00:02,942 --> 01:00:05,275 when the data she writes reformats. 1126 01:00:05,309 --> 01:00:09,509 And then she puts in new age groups. 1127 01:00:09,542 --> 01:00:14,409 Even this failed to achieve the desired effect, 1128 01:00:14,442 --> 01:00:17,309 since in the end, they simply omitted the relevant findings 1129 01:00:17,342 --> 01:00:19,576 from the paper altogether. 1130 01:00:19,609 --> 01:00:22,175 I was just looking at that, I'm like, oh my god, 1131 01:00:22,209 --> 01:00:26,209 I cannot believe we did what we did. 1132 01:00:26,242 --> 01:00:28,042 But we did. 1133 01:00:28,075 --> 01:00:28,743 Yeah. 1134 01:00:28,776 --> 01:00:30,275 So it's all there. 1135 01:00:30,309 --> 01:00:31,676 It's all there. 1136 01:00:31,709 --> 01:00:34,743 And you in the health field, you who run our health agencies 1137 01:00:34,776 --> 01:00:39,342 in this country are sitting here today, you have an obligation 1138 01:00:39,376 --> 01:00:42,309 to these kids that you just saw there, to make sure 1139 01:00:42,342 --> 01:00:45,776 that these studies are complete, thorough, 1140 01:00:45,809 --> 01:00:49,142 so that everybody knows that we have all the facts, 1141 01:00:49,175 --> 01:00:50,776 and you don't have that. 1142 01:00:50,809 --> 01:00:52,709 One of the things we did because this was 1143 01:00:52,743 --> 01:00:56,709 such an important topic was to have them be sworn in. 1144 01:00:56,743 --> 01:00:58,409 So they were under oath. 1145 01:00:58,442 --> 01:01:02,008 And if they were doctoring the results of a study, 1146 01:01:02,042 --> 01:01:05,743 and they did it deliberately, they committed a felony. 1147 01:01:05,776 --> 01:01:08,175 It used to be 1 in 10,000. 1148 01:01:08,209 --> 01:01:13,542 And now it's 1 in more than 250 kids that are being damaged 1149 01:01:13,576 --> 01:01:16,209 in this country, that are autistic. 1150 01:01:17,242 --> 01:01:19,075 Now those kids are going to grow up. 1151 01:01:19,109 --> 01:01:20,908 They aren't going to die. 1152 01:01:20,942 --> 01:01:22,542 It's not like a lot of diseases 1153 01:01:22,576 --> 01:01:25,242 where they get infected, and they drop dead. 1154 01:01:25,275 --> 01:01:27,809 They're going to live to be 50, 60 years old. 1155 01:01:27,843 --> 01:01:30,908 Now, who do you think is going to take care of them? 1156 01:01:31,975 --> 01:01:33,309 It's going to be us. 1157 01:01:33,342 --> 01:01:33,875 All of us. 1158 01:01:33,908 --> 01:01:34,843 The taxpayers. 1159 01:01:34,875 --> 01:01:36,275 And it's going to cost, I think 1160 01:01:36,309 --> 01:01:40,442 as you said Ms. Maloney, trillions of dollars. 1161 01:01:40,476 --> 01:01:42,975 So we can't let the pharmaceutical companies 1162 01:01:43,008 --> 01:01:46,242 and our government cover this mess up today, 1163 01:01:46,275 --> 01:01:49,476 because it ain't going to go away. 1164 01:01:49,509 --> 01:01:52,975 And it's going to cost the taxpayers trillions more 1165 01:01:53,008 --> 01:01:54,776 if we wait around on it. 1166 01:01:54,809 --> 01:01:58,743 And or our FDA and HHS and the health agencies to continue 1167 01:01:58,776 --> 01:02:01,908 to hide behind this façade that there have been studies 1168 01:02:01,942 --> 01:02:06,109 that conclusively prove otherwise, it's just wrong too. 1169 01:02:06,142 --> 01:02:09,075 So the CDC wasn't just doing the study inside of a bubble. 1170 01:02:09,109 --> 01:02:11,142 In fact, it was the exact opposite. 1171 01:02:11,175 --> 01:02:12,542 They were under fire. 1172 01:02:12,576 --> 01:02:14,476 You had Congressman Dan Burton in front 1173 01:02:14,509 --> 01:02:17,609 of the Congress demanding answers about mercury 1174 01:02:17,642 --> 01:02:20,242 and the MMR, and vaccine studies, 1175 01:02:20,275 --> 01:02:21,942 and the connection to autism. 1176 01:02:21,975 --> 01:02:24,175 Dave Weldon, Congressman from Florida, 1177 01:02:24,209 --> 01:02:25,676 is reaching out to Julie Gerberding 1178 01:02:25,709 --> 01:02:26,908 with serious complaints 1179 01:02:26,942 --> 01:02:29,743 on how he thinks this entire issue has been handled. 1180 01:02:29,776 --> 01:02:33,442 On top of that, the Department of Justice is requesting files 1181 01:02:33,476 --> 01:02:36,743 and data from the CBC because of a previous study called the 1182 01:02:36,776 --> 01:02:39,776 Verstraeton study, that had so may anomalies, 1183 01:02:39,809 --> 01:02:42,209 it looked like scientific fraud was taking place. 1184 01:02:42,242 --> 01:02:43,776 So they were suspicious. 1185 01:02:43,809 --> 01:02:47,709 So then you look at the emails that Thompson provided to us, 1186 01:02:47,743 --> 01:02:50,843 and you see that he is reaching out to his line manager, 1187 01:02:50,875 --> 01:02:55,409 Dr. Melinda Wharton, throwing up red flags, saying "I first spoke 1188 01:02:55,442 --> 01:02:59,042 with you in September of 2002 regarding the sensitive results 1189 01:02:59,075 --> 01:03:03,109 we have been struggling with in the MMR autism study." 1190 01:03:03,142 --> 01:03:06,609 How do you struggle with scientific results? 1191 01:03:06,642 --> 01:03:08,409 I mean, facts are facts. 1192 01:03:08,442 --> 01:03:10,809 Data are data. 1193 01:03:10,843 --> 01:03:12,109 That doesn't make any sense. 1194 01:03:12,142 --> 01:03:14,843 So you've got Dan Burton breathing down their necks. 1195 01:03:14,875 --> 01:03:17,642 The Department of Justice is requesting files, 1196 01:03:17,676 --> 01:03:22,142 and William Thompson finds out that Coleen Boyle has brought 1197 01:03:22,175 --> 01:03:26,743 in a lawyer to help her decide what materials are too sensitive 1198 01:03:26,776 --> 01:03:29,209 to provide to the Department of Justice. 1199 01:03:29,242 --> 01:03:32,843 This obviously freaks William Thompson out, because later 1200 01:03:32,875 --> 01:03:35,242 in the email to Wharton, he says 1201 01:03:35,275 --> 01:03:38,376 "I will be hiring my own personal attorney." 1202 01:03:38,409 --> 01:03:40,942 And it's extremely unfortunate that we need to be concerned 1203 01:03:40,975 --> 01:03:44,642 that our own legal rights are covered when participating 1204 01:03:44,676 --> 01:03:46,209 in a study such as this. 1205 01:03:46,242 --> 01:03:48,743 I mean, what's going on here? 1206 01:03:48,776 --> 01:03:52,776 We have government scientists, lawyering up, 1207 01:03:52,809 --> 01:03:55,542 over a children's safety study. 1208 01:03:55,576 --> 01:03:59,275 Clearly this does not sit well at all with Dr. Thompson. 1209 01:03:59,309 --> 01:04:00,942 Because at the end of this email, 1210 01:04:00,975 --> 01:04:04,175 he makes what looks to be a clear threat. 1211 01:04:04,209 --> 01:04:06,442 "My level of concern has also caused me 1212 01:04:06,476 --> 01:04:09,776 to seriously consider removing myself as an author 1213 01:04:09,809 --> 01:04:11,609 on the draft manuscript." 1214 01:04:11,642 --> 01:04:13,908 So then a few days later, Thompson writes directly 1215 01:04:13,942 --> 01:04:16,743 to Dr. Walter Orenstein, head 1216 01:04:16,776 --> 01:04:19,242 of The National Immunization Program, 1217 01:04:19,275 --> 01:04:23,175 saying "I am not interested in taking all of the political heat 1218 01:04:23,209 --> 01:04:26,109 that will go along with that study." 1219 01:04:26,142 --> 01:04:30,743 Thompson has gone all the way to the top of his department. 1220 01:04:30,776 --> 01:04:35,609 I mean, we don't ever get a response from Walter Orenstein, 1221 01:04:35,642 --> 01:04:40,008 but Thompson is very clear on what happened next. 1222 01:04:43,376 --> 01:04:46,175 The higher ups wanted to do certain things, 1223 01:04:46,209 --> 01:04:47,642 and I went along with it. 1224 01:04:47,676 --> 01:04:51,908 In terms of chain of command, I was number four out of five. 1225 01:04:51,942 --> 01:04:54,908 Dr. Thompson talked about destruction of documents, 1226 01:04:54,942 --> 01:04:58,609 and that in Fall of 2002, there was a meeting 1227 01:04:58,642 --> 01:04:59,942 with the trash can rolled in, 1228 01:04:59,975 --> 01:05:02,576 and they selected documents to be destroyed. 1229 01:05:02,609 --> 01:05:05,642 I led all the analyses with the DeStefano thing, 1230 01:05:05,676 --> 01:05:08,942 literally everyone else got rid of all their documents, 1231 01:05:08,975 --> 01:05:11,109 so the only documents that exist right now 1232 01:05:11,142 --> 01:05:12,542 from that study are mine. 1233 01:05:12,576 --> 01:05:15,275 These documents were no doubt federal records. 1234 01:05:15,309 --> 01:05:16,908 They were very important documents, 1235 01:05:16,942 --> 01:05:19,042 because they showed a very strong statistically 1236 01:05:19,075 --> 01:05:20,275 significant effect. 1237 01:05:20,309 --> 01:05:22,209 He felt that quite rightly it would be illegal 1238 01:05:22,242 --> 01:05:24,008 to destroy those documents. 1239 01:05:24,042 --> 01:05:27,275 And so in his office, he kept not only the hard copies, 1240 01:05:27,309 --> 01:05:30,476 but the computerized files for that study. 1241 01:05:30,509 --> 01:05:34,875 There was a dramatically different result presented 1242 01:05:34,908 --> 01:05:39,576 before and after the time frame that Thompson alleged 1243 01:05:39,609 --> 01:05:41,609 that these data were destroyed. 1244 01:05:41,642 --> 01:05:46,142 If I never had the documents before October 2002, 1245 01:05:46,175 --> 01:05:49,075 there would be nothing that would show 1246 01:05:49,109 --> 01:05:51,676 that they actually had the results in hand, 1247 01:05:51,709 --> 01:05:54,209 and they decided to destroy those results. 1248 01:05:54,242 --> 01:05:58,342 I filed a formal complaint to the Office of Research Integrity 1249 01:05:58,376 --> 01:06:00,709 and the Department of Health and Human Services. 1250 01:06:00,743 --> 01:06:03,975 I heard back not long after the complaint was filed, 1251 01:06:04,008 --> 01:06:07,942 and the letter basically stated that every co-author, 1252 01:06:07,975 --> 01:06:11,542 except for Dr. Thompson, denied that any 1253 01:06:11,576 --> 01:06:13,376 such meeting was scheduled, 1254 01:06:13,409 --> 01:06:17,342 they denied that any material was destroyed or thrown away. 1255 01:06:17,376 --> 01:06:19,743 They were calling Dr. Thompson a liar. 1256 01:06:19,776 --> 01:06:21,809 It was their word against his. 1257 01:06:21,843 --> 01:06:25,075 Dr. Thompson predicted that this would happen. 1258 01:06:25,109 --> 01:06:27,709 There are things I haven't even shared with you 1259 01:06:27,743 --> 01:06:32,908 because I can't prove it, and that's what I struggle with. 1260 01:06:32,942 --> 01:06:35,609 I don't want to share things with you that I can't prove. 1261 01:06:35,642 --> 01:06:41,576 That there aren't hard records of, because I am worried 1262 01:06:41,609 --> 01:06:44,175 that the other four people will collude 1263 01:06:44,209 --> 01:06:46,209 and say no that's not true. 1264 01:06:46,242 --> 01:06:49,409 Dr. Thompson provided meeting notes to me 1265 01:06:49,442 --> 01:06:52,809 for precisely the time where the co-authors are claiming 1266 01:06:52,843 --> 01:06:55,476 that no meeting took place. 1267 01:06:55,509 --> 01:06:58,642 That's what I keep seeing again and again and again. 1268 01:06:58,676 --> 01:07:04,509 Where these senior people just do completely unethical vile 1269 01:07:04,542 --> 01:07:06,609 things, and no one holds them accountable. 1270 01:07:06,642 --> 01:07:07,676 So look. 1271 01:07:07,709 --> 01:07:09,843 Once you have the data, a scientific study 1272 01:07:09,875 --> 01:07:12,743 like this is a relatively simple process. 1273 01:07:12,776 --> 01:07:15,209 You just run the data, you get the results, 1274 01:07:15,242 --> 01:07:17,776 and then you publish those results in a paper. 1275 01:07:17,809 --> 01:07:19,275 In their own analysis plan, 1276 01:07:19,309 --> 01:07:22,109 this study was only supposed to take six months. 1277 01:07:22,142 --> 01:07:25,942 From May 2001 to December 2001. 1278 01:07:25,975 --> 01:07:28,442 So if they weren't destroying data, 1279 01:07:28,476 --> 01:07:32,709 why did this study end up taking four years? 1280 01:07:32,743 --> 01:07:34,242 The question everybody needs 1281 01:07:34,275 --> 01:07:37,809 to be asking the CDC is what the heck happened 1282 01:07:37,843 --> 01:07:43,809 between October 2002 and February of 2004? 1283 01:07:43,843 --> 01:07:46,509 The reason you don't see anything else circulating 1284 01:07:46,542 --> 01:07:48,709 on this study, it was five of us, 1285 01:07:48,743 --> 01:07:51,609 behind closed doors, for two years. 1286 01:07:51,642 --> 01:07:52,875 Wow. 1287 01:07:54,109 --> 01:07:57,309 So after two years of secret meetings behind closed doors, 1288 01:07:57,342 --> 01:08:01,142 DeStefano emerges with the final draft of the MMR study, 1289 01:08:01,175 --> 01:08:04,676 and they're going to present it to the Institute of Medicine. 1290 01:08:04,709 --> 01:08:10,609 People on the IOM move from industry, government, academia, 1291 01:08:10,642 --> 01:08:13,942 government, industry, and they bounce around. 1292 01:08:13,975 --> 01:08:16,309 It's all the same people, 1293 01:08:16,342 --> 01:08:19,776 and there wasn't a really good policeman in all of this, 1294 01:08:19,809 --> 01:08:23,075 to really make sure that the vaccine safety studies are done 1295 01:08:23,109 --> 01:08:26,075 properly and that they're done objectively. 1296 01:08:26,109 --> 01:08:27,376 It just didn't seem to me 1297 01:08:27,409 --> 01:08:31,409 like we were running a system that was credible. 1298 01:08:31,442 --> 01:08:34,242 I had written to Julie Gerberding, and I asked her 1299 01:08:34,275 --> 01:08:38,008 to postpone the February 9th Institute of Medicine meeting. 1300 01:08:38,042 --> 01:08:40,809 This report, the Institute of Medicine Report I wanted 1301 01:08:40,843 --> 01:08:46,309 to postpone because my concern that this was not an exercise 1302 01:08:46,342 --> 01:08:48,242 in discovering the truth, 1303 01:08:48,275 --> 01:08:51,075 but was instead a meeting being driven by a desire 1304 01:08:51,109 --> 01:08:53,376 to short-circuit important research 1305 01:08:53,409 --> 01:08:56,175 and draw premature conclusions. 1306 01:08:56,209 --> 01:08:58,642 The problem is, William Thompson being the lead 1307 01:08:58,676 --> 01:09:03,109 scientist, he is going to have to present their findings. 1308 01:09:03,142 --> 01:09:04,875 And he's not happy about it. 1309 01:09:04,908 --> 01:09:08,376 In fact, he's so upset, that he goes above the lead author, 1310 01:09:08,409 --> 01:09:11,376 DeStefano, above Walter Orenstein, 1311 01:09:11,409 --> 01:09:15,209 all the way to the Head of the CDC, Dr. Julie Gerberding. 1312 01:09:15,242 --> 01:09:17,509 And in an email he says, 1313 01:09:29,743 --> 01:09:32,942 basically saying "I'm not going to continue this lie. 1314 01:09:32,975 --> 01:09:36,776 If you put me up there, I'm going to tell the truth." 1315 01:09:36,809 --> 01:09:40,975 Thompson was originally scheduled to provide a briefing, 1316 01:09:41,008 --> 01:09:44,242 because he basically told Director Gerberding 1317 01:09:44,275 --> 01:09:48,275 that he would have to say that there is a causal association. 1318 01:09:48,309 --> 01:09:51,942 He was switched at the last minute with Frank DeStefano, 1319 01:09:51,975 --> 01:09:55,042 who was able to report to the IOM falsely 1320 01:09:55,075 --> 01:09:56,709 that we have found no association 1321 01:09:56,743 --> 01:09:59,476 between MMR and autism. 1322 01:09:59,509 --> 01:10:01,975 The IOM was the point of no return. 1323 01:10:02,008 --> 01:10:04,476 And so deprived of the truth, 1324 01:10:04,509 --> 01:10:07,809 the IOM declared MMR vaccine safe. 1325 01:10:07,843 --> 01:10:12,376 It was a rush to judgment, to shut the door, permanently 1326 01:10:12,409 --> 01:10:16,509 and completely, on the MMR autism link. 1327 01:10:16,542 --> 01:10:19,875 It is absolutely appalling that much of what I said turned 1328 01:10:19,908 --> 01:10:22,242 out exactly to be true. 1329 01:10:22,275 --> 01:10:25,709 They were trying to short-circuit the research. 1330 01:10:25,743 --> 01:10:28,676 It's the lowest, you know, the lowest point in my career, 1331 01:10:28,709 --> 01:10:30,476 that I went along with that paper. 1332 01:10:30,509 --> 01:10:33,975 After their brilliant work on the MMR study, DeStefano 1333 01:10:34,008 --> 01:10:36,743 and his team received an award from the Department 1334 01:10:36,776 --> 01:10:38,676 of Health and Human Services. 1335 01:10:38,709 --> 01:10:40,709 And then several years later, 1336 01:10:40,743 --> 01:10:43,942 Dr. Julie Gerberding received an award of her own. 1337 01:10:43,975 --> 01:10:49,342 A high paid job as head of the vaccine division at Merck. 1338 01:10:49,376 --> 01:10:53,843 Clearly, Merck appreciated the work she had done investigating 1339 01:10:53,875 --> 01:10:55,576 their vaccine. 1340 01:10:59,576 --> 01:11:06,075 Just to let you know, I wrote a paper on my results on MMR. 1341 01:11:06,109 --> 01:11:07,342 Yes? 1342 01:11:07,376 --> 01:11:11,042 And it will include something that I got from you. 1343 01:11:11,075 --> 01:11:13,975 Brian was about to publish a paper using data 1344 01:11:14,008 --> 01:11:16,576 that could only have come from an inside source 1345 01:11:16,609 --> 01:11:18,609 in the CDC, a whistle-blower. 1346 01:11:18,642 --> 01:11:20,008 And from that point forward, 1347 01:11:20,042 --> 01:11:22,209 William Thompson was a marked man. 1348 01:11:22,242 --> 01:11:26,809 Andy approached me and said it's time 1349 01:11:26,843 --> 01:11:29,476 to publicize the CDC whistle-blower. 1350 01:11:29,509 --> 01:11:30,776 Ironically 12 years later, 1351 01:11:30,809 --> 01:11:35,008 while Thompson is bearing his soul to Brian Hooker, 1352 01:11:35,042 --> 01:11:38,776 in front of Congress Coleen Boyle is just peddling the same 1353 01:11:38,809 --> 01:11:40,843 old CDC fraud. 1354 01:11:40,875 --> 01:11:42,743 But this time, it's to a new player. 1355 01:11:42,776 --> 01:11:45,843 And that is Congressman Bill Posey from Florida. 1356 01:11:45,875 --> 01:11:48,109 I wonder if the CDC has conducted 1357 01:11:48,142 --> 01:11:51,843 or facilitated a study comparing vaccinated children 1358 01:11:51,875 --> 01:11:53,309 with unvaccinated children yet? 1359 01:11:53,342 --> 01:11:54,609 Have you done that? 1360 01:11:54,642 --> 01:11:57,008 We have actually done a number of studies looking 1361 01:11:57,042 --> 01:12:01,809 at the relationship between Thiomerisol vaccines and autism, 1362 01:12:01,843 --> 01:12:03,576 and other developmental disabilities. 1363 01:12:03,609 --> 01:12:06,776 The lies from the CDC were still the same. 1364 01:12:06,809 --> 01:12:10,175 The difference now is we had William Thompson. 1365 01:12:10,209 --> 01:12:13,908 Vaccines and their components did not increase the risk 1366 01:12:13,942 --> 01:12:15,309 for autism. 1367 01:12:15,342 --> 01:12:18,908 But my time is very limited here, so clearly, definitely, 1368 01:12:18,942 --> 01:12:24,809 unequivocally, you have studied vaccinated versus unvaccinated? 1369 01:12:24,843 --> 01:12:27,175 We have not studied vaccinated 1370 01:12:27,209 --> 01:12:29,275 versus unvaccinated, as you... 1371 01:12:29,309 --> 01:12:30,476 Never mind, that is just not there, 1372 01:12:30,509 --> 01:12:31,875 that is the meaning of my question. 1373 01:12:31,908 --> 01:12:33,476 You've wasted two minutes of my time. 1374 01:12:33,509 --> 01:12:36,309 Brian had also submitted a related paper 1375 01:12:36,342 --> 01:12:38,309 to a journal called Nature Neuroscience. 1376 01:12:38,342 --> 01:12:40,942 And in that paper, he had specifically referred 1377 01:12:40,975 --> 01:12:43,042 to an unnamed source at the CDC. 1378 01:12:43,075 --> 01:12:46,476 And my worst fears were realized, when a journalist 1379 01:12:46,509 --> 01:12:49,309 from Nature Neuroscience contacted the CDC, 1380 01:12:49,342 --> 01:12:51,975 contacted Walter Orenstein, the message went 1381 01:12:52,008 --> 01:12:56,109 on to Frank DeStefano, who sent it out to the co-authors saying, 1382 01:12:56,142 --> 01:12:57,242 "Keep your heads down. 1383 01:12:57,275 --> 01:13:00,008 This may be coming your way." 1384 01:13:00,042 --> 01:13:02,908 The fear was all of a sudden we'd be dredging a river 1385 01:13:02,942 --> 01:13:04,275 for Bill Thompson. 1386 01:13:04,309 --> 01:13:07,242 So I said to him, Brian, we've got to do three things. 1387 01:13:07,275 --> 01:13:10,542 We have got to get Thompson a whistle-blower lawyer. 1388 01:13:10,576 --> 01:13:14,142 We have got to make sure that his documents are with Posey, 1389 01:13:14,175 --> 01:13:16,975 and we've got to reveal his name. 1390 01:13:17,008 --> 01:13:22,008 Whistle-blowers are in danger only as long as the only people 1391 01:13:22,042 --> 01:13:25,509 who know their identity are their enemies. 1392 01:13:28,509 --> 01:13:31,142 Do vaccines cause autism? 1393 01:13:31,175 --> 01:13:32,843 In the last 30 years, 1394 01:13:32,875 --> 01:13:36,109 the childhood vaccine schedule has tripled, 1395 01:13:36,142 --> 01:13:39,275 while the U.S. autism rate has skyrocketed 1396 01:13:39,309 --> 01:13:43,142 from 1 in 10,000 to 1 in 50. 1397 01:13:43,175 --> 01:13:47,809 Dozens of published research papers show that yes, vaccines 1398 01:13:47,843 --> 01:13:50,175 and autism are linked. 1399 01:13:50,209 --> 01:13:51,609 Yet, the debate rages on, 1400 01:13:51,642 --> 01:13:55,642 in part because of a 1986 National Childhood Vaccine 1401 01:13:55,676 --> 01:13:58,809 Injury Act, passed by Congress, as the result 1402 01:13:58,843 --> 01:14:00,908 of pharmaceutical lobbying. 1403 01:14:00,942 --> 01:14:03,875 It shields drug companies from liability for injuries 1404 01:14:03,908 --> 01:14:07,809 and deaths caused by the vaccines they manufacture. 1405 01:14:07,843 --> 01:14:10,843 Vaccines that the federal government admits are 1406 01:14:10,875 --> 01:14:13,209 unavoidably unsafe. 1407 01:14:13,242 --> 01:14:16,042 Instead of suing the pharmaceutical company directly, 1408 01:14:16,075 --> 01:14:18,908 parents are forced to petition the Department of Health 1409 01:14:18,942 --> 01:14:20,008 and Human Services, 1410 01:14:20,042 --> 01:14:23,209 and if federal officials oppose compensation, 1411 01:14:23,242 --> 01:14:26,242 the case is argued before a special master 1412 01:14:26,275 --> 01:14:28,242 in the U.S. Claims Court. 1413 01:14:28,275 --> 01:14:31,342 Many refer to this as vaccine court. 1414 01:14:31,376 --> 01:14:33,542 Here are some shocking facts 1415 01:14:33,576 --> 01:14:36,376 about the so-called vaccine court. 1416 01:14:36,409 --> 01:14:39,476 Pharmaceutical companies do not have to participate 1417 01:14:39,509 --> 01:14:41,576 in the proceedings at all. 1418 01:14:41,609 --> 01:14:45,476 Taxpayers pay for all damages. 1419 01:14:45,509 --> 01:14:48,975 The U.S. Department of Justice acts as a government's lawyer, 1420 01:14:49,008 --> 01:14:52,609 with taxpayers footing the bill for their defense. 1421 01:14:56,509 --> 01:14:59,409 Beginning in 2002, there were already thousands 1422 01:14:59,442 --> 01:15:03,342 of cases accumulating in vaccine court, 1423 01:15:03,376 --> 01:15:06,309 and the average compensation for an autistic child is 1424 01:15:06,342 --> 01:15:10,509 in the range of $5 million dollars, so just do the math. 1425 01:15:10,542 --> 01:15:13,109 The government was facing several hundred billion, 1426 01:15:13,142 --> 01:15:15,609 possibly a trillion dollars in liability 1427 01:15:15,642 --> 01:15:17,743 as the autism epidemic grew. 1428 01:15:17,776 --> 01:15:22,809 They had to develop a fraudulent study that would exonerate MMR 1429 01:15:22,843 --> 01:15:26,309 to deliberately defeat the cases in vaccine court, 1430 01:15:26,342 --> 01:15:27,875 to avoid paying the trillion dollars. 1431 01:15:27,908 --> 01:15:32,542 So the thousands of autism petitioners were denied their 1432 01:15:32,576 --> 01:15:35,975 fair day in court by a corrupt 1433 01:15:36,008 --> 01:15:38,676 and deliberate obstruction of justice. 1434 01:15:38,709 --> 01:15:44,275 It's one of the most unethical medical decisions of all time, 1435 01:15:44,309 --> 01:15:45,875 because it was made with knowledge 1436 01:15:45,908 --> 01:15:50,008 to sacrifice these children as a direct affront 1437 01:15:50,042 --> 01:15:53,509 to the Congressional Mandate that they all be compensated. 1438 01:16:06,509 --> 01:16:08,342 In the fall of last year, I got a call 1439 01:16:08,376 --> 01:16:11,743 from an inside source, who told me that in two weeks, 1440 01:16:11,776 --> 01:16:14,809 there's going to be a whistle blower from the CDC who is going 1441 01:16:14,843 --> 01:16:18,075 to come out and say that the CDC had committed fraud 1442 01:16:18,109 --> 01:16:20,975 on the MMR study and that they knew 1443 01:16:21,008 --> 01:16:24,476 that vaccines were actually causing autism. 1444 01:16:24,509 --> 01:16:27,075 I mean, that's a huge story. 1445 01:16:27,109 --> 01:16:29,709 Unfortunately it was a story I would not be able to tell 1446 01:16:29,743 --> 01:16:32,509 on a medical talk show, because a lot of our funding was coming 1447 01:16:32,542 --> 01:16:33,843 from the pharmaceutical industry, 1448 01:16:33,875 --> 01:16:36,309 and we were also very good friends with the CDC, 1449 01:16:36,342 --> 01:16:39,676 who had appeared on our show many times. 1450 01:16:39,709 --> 01:16:44,242 But I knew that once this story broke, two weeks later, 1451 01:16:44,275 --> 01:16:46,609 that the mainstream news media would pick it up. 1452 01:16:46,642 --> 01:16:47,776 Fox would be on it. 1453 01:16:47,809 --> 01:16:49,209 CNN would be on it. 1454 01:16:49,242 --> 01:16:52,609 MSNBC, and we're talking about the biggest medical story 1455 01:16:52,642 --> 01:16:54,743 in the last decade or two at least. 1456 01:16:54,776 --> 01:16:57,008 So that two weeks came. 1457 01:16:57,042 --> 01:16:59,843 I saw the video that was posted by Andrew Wakefield 1458 01:16:59,875 --> 01:17:01,809 and Brian Hooker, and I heard the words 1459 01:17:01,843 --> 01:17:04,542 of William Thompson and his confession. 1460 01:17:04,576 --> 01:17:09,476 Oh my god, I cannot believe we did what we did. 1461 01:17:09,509 --> 01:17:11,542 But we did. 1462 01:17:11,576 --> 01:17:12,376 It's all there. 1463 01:17:12,409 --> 01:17:13,743 It's all there. 1464 01:17:13,776 --> 01:17:18,509 And I watched the Blogosphere go crazy, tweets, Facebook, 1465 01:17:18,542 --> 01:17:21,442 social media, everybody talking about it. 1466 01:17:21,476 --> 01:17:26,476 But not one mainstream media source went anywhere near 1467 01:17:26,509 --> 01:17:27,476 the story. 1468 01:17:27,509 --> 01:17:29,542 In fact, on CNN someone put the story 1469 01:17:29,576 --> 01:17:33,576 up on iReport, and CNN took it down. 1470 01:17:33,609 --> 01:17:37,908 And at that moment, I realized wait a minute. 1471 01:17:37,942 --> 01:17:40,743 Not only is my medical talk show being produced 1472 01:17:40,776 --> 01:17:45,809 by the pharmaceutical industry, all of television is. 1473 01:17:45,843 --> 01:17:47,875 We were never going to get this story. 1474 01:17:47,908 --> 01:17:53,175 But we certainly did get a story. 1475 01:17:53,209 --> 01:17:55,376 A highly contagious measles outbreak. 1476 01:17:55,409 --> 01:17:56,342 Major outbreak. 1477 01:17:56,376 --> 01:17:57,342 Measles outbreaks. 1478 01:17:57,376 --> 01:17:59,442 Measles on the march in America. 1479 01:17:59,476 --> 01:18:01,676 This outbreak is showing no signs of letting up. 1480 01:18:01,709 --> 01:18:03,975 But in 2014, the number tripled, 1481 01:18:04,008 --> 01:18:08,609 to 644 measles cases reported in 27 states. 1482 01:18:08,642 --> 01:18:13,809 It's really amazing to consider the number of cases 1483 01:18:13,843 --> 01:18:16,476 of autism every year, and to contrast 1484 01:18:16,509 --> 01:18:21,209 that to let's say the number of children who acquired measles 1485 01:18:21,242 --> 01:18:22,709 by going to Disneyland. 1486 01:18:22,743 --> 01:18:27,476 It's a tiny number of children who acquired measles, 1487 01:18:27,509 --> 01:18:31,576 and it's a vast number of children who are being diagnosed 1488 01:18:31,609 --> 01:18:33,676 with autism every day. 1489 01:18:35,342 --> 01:18:38,175 We don't know what causes autism. 1490 01:18:38,209 --> 01:18:39,275 I mean, that's fair to say. 1491 01:18:39,309 --> 01:18:40,476 We are not sure 1492 01:18:40,509 --> 01:18:42,409 in the scientific community what causes autism, 1493 01:18:42,442 --> 01:18:45,109 but we know that vaccines do not. 1494 01:18:45,142 --> 01:18:47,743 Now, I'm not saying that Sanjay Gupta is a bad guy. 1495 01:18:47,776 --> 01:18:51,476 In fact, I think that he tries to do a lot of good. 1496 01:18:51,509 --> 01:18:53,875 Just like many doctors do. 1497 01:18:53,908 --> 01:18:56,776 But if they're being lied to by the scientific body 1498 01:18:56,809 --> 01:18:59,476 that provides them with their information, 1499 01:18:59,509 --> 01:19:01,309 what happens to all of us? 1500 01:19:01,342 --> 01:19:07,042 What happens if a good doctor sees the same data that I saw? 1501 01:19:07,075 --> 01:19:09,175 So you're a scientist, basically. 1502 01:19:09,209 --> 01:19:10,975 So you're studying this. 1503 01:19:11,008 --> 01:19:13,875 And you feel 100% confident, you even said you have kids, 1504 01:19:13,908 --> 01:19:15,409 so you're a family person. 1505 01:19:15,442 --> 01:19:16,175 Yes. 1506 01:19:16,209 --> 01:19:17,109 You would feel very... 1507 01:19:17,142 --> 01:19:18,275 How long have you been a doctor, 1508 01:19:18,309 --> 01:19:20,309 and sort of what is your area of specialty? 1509 01:19:20,342 --> 01:19:23,109 Sure, I've been a family medical physician 1510 01:19:23,142 --> 01:19:25,275 for over 10 years now, in treating families, 1511 01:19:25,309 --> 01:19:26,875 everyone from newborns all the way 1512 01:19:26,908 --> 01:19:30,042 up to my oldest patient is 96. 1513 01:19:30,075 --> 01:19:33,075 So do you administer vaccines as part of that? 1514 01:19:33,109 --> 01:19:34,975 Yes I do administer vaccines. 1515 01:19:35,008 --> 01:19:37,975 In our clinic, we follow the CDC recommendations, 1516 01:19:38,008 --> 01:19:41,509 and we give that information to our patients, 1517 01:19:41,542 --> 01:19:43,642 and we give them a schedule of when their children are going 1518 01:19:43,676 --> 01:19:46,376 to need to be vaccinated, and so on and so forth. 1519 01:19:46,409 --> 01:19:48,309 There's something I want to show you. 1520 01:19:48,342 --> 01:19:51,609 This is the formal complaint about what they've been given 1521 01:19:51,642 --> 01:19:54,275 by William Thompson, as well the CDC. 1522 01:19:54,309 --> 01:19:56,642 Okay? There's all sorts of reference materials 1523 01:19:56,676 --> 01:19:57,776 in here and things like that. 1524 01:19:57,809 --> 01:20:01,875 I'm just going to give you time to look at it, 1525 01:20:01,908 --> 01:20:04,142 study it as long as you want, okay? 1526 01:20:04,175 --> 01:20:06,509 When you feel like you have a grasp of it, you are going 1527 01:20:06,542 --> 01:20:07,776 to know, it's going to take some time, 1528 01:20:07,809 --> 01:20:08,908 appreciate you taking the time. 1529 01:20:08,942 --> 01:20:09,476 All right. 1530 01:20:09,509 --> 01:20:09,908 All right? 1531 01:20:09,942 --> 01:20:11,042 Okay. 1532 01:20:13,109 --> 01:20:17,242 So I have sent you what William Thompson has said is the 1533 01:20:17,275 --> 01:20:18,942 fraud at the CDC. 1534 01:20:18,975 --> 01:20:21,442 All of that data that was missing. 1535 01:20:21,476 --> 01:20:25,309 Did you get a chance to really look it over? 1536 01:20:25,342 --> 01:20:27,743 It's really unbelievable. 1537 01:20:27,776 --> 01:20:33,309 How blatantly the data was switched around. 1538 01:20:33,342 --> 01:20:36,309 It made me question whether or not this organization 1539 01:20:36,342 --> 01:20:39,709 that has been mandating how I practice medicine 1540 01:20:39,743 --> 01:20:43,075 for the past 10 years, if they're lying about this, 1541 01:20:43,109 --> 01:20:46,142 they're leaving data out about this particular study... 1542 01:20:46,175 --> 01:20:50,476 what else am I being lied to about? 1543 01:20:51,875 --> 01:20:53,642 I'm still trying to digest it. 1544 01:20:53,676 --> 01:20:57,908 Because this study, which was used to kind 1545 01:20:57,942 --> 01:21:02,942 of give the definitive answer to us pediatricians, that oh, 1546 01:21:02,975 --> 01:21:06,342 the MMR is not related to autism, 1547 01:21:06,376 --> 01:21:07,042 I kind of feel 1548 01:21:07,075 --> 01:21:08,743 like I've been lied to. 1549 01:21:08,776 --> 01:21:11,376 When they set out to do the study, they wanted to look 1550 01:21:11,409 --> 01:21:15,008 at the data, and interpret the data, but then there is a piece 1551 01:21:15,042 --> 01:21:18,242 of data that they chose to ignore. 1552 01:21:18,275 --> 01:21:22,576 The data they excluded was really, really significant. 1553 01:21:22,609 --> 01:21:23,209 Think about it. 1554 01:21:23,242 --> 01:21:24,609 It is a big deal. 1555 01:21:24,642 --> 01:21:29,376 It is a big deal for a physician to have to deal with the fact 1556 01:21:29,409 --> 01:21:32,376 that for the past 10, 20 years, 1557 01:21:32,409 --> 01:21:36,476 we've been potentially destroying the brains 1558 01:21:36,509 --> 01:21:37,576 of children. 1559 01:21:37,609 --> 01:21:38,975 Everything I've been telling my patients 1560 01:21:39,008 --> 01:21:45,975 for the last 10 years has been based on a lie and a cover up. 1561 01:21:46,008 --> 01:21:47,209 Parents making decisions 1562 01:21:47,242 --> 01:21:49,175 about their children's health deserve 1563 01:21:49,209 --> 01:21:51,875 to have the best information available to them. 1564 01:21:51,908 --> 01:21:54,242 They should be able to count on federal agencies 1565 01:21:54,275 --> 01:21:56,843 to tell them the truth. 1566 01:21:56,875 --> 01:21:58,875 Once Brian and I had outed Bill Thompson, 1567 01:21:58,908 --> 01:22:01,509 he got himself a whistle-blower lawyer, he provided all 1568 01:22:01,542 --> 01:22:03,908 of his documents on the fraudulent CDC study 1569 01:22:03,942 --> 01:22:07,042 to Congressman Posey, who then went before the Congress. 1570 01:22:07,075 --> 01:22:09,875 Considering the nature of the whistle blower's documents, 1571 01:22:09,908 --> 01:22:13,309 as well as the involvement of the CDC, a hearing 1572 01:22:13,342 --> 01:22:16,743 and a thorough investigation is warranted. 1573 01:22:16,776 --> 01:22:21,975 So I ask Mr. Speaker, I beg, I implore my colleagues 1574 01:22:22,008 --> 01:22:24,542 on the Appropriations Committees to please, 1575 01:22:24,576 --> 01:22:25,908 please take such action. 1576 01:22:25,942 --> 01:22:28,509 Thank you Mr. Speaker, I yield back. 1577 01:22:28,542 --> 01:22:29,843 It's now been 7 months 1578 01:22:29,875 --> 01:22:32,743 since Congressman Bill Posey urged the Congress 1579 01:22:32,776 --> 01:22:36,809 to subpoena Bill Thompson, and they have done nothing. 1580 01:22:36,843 --> 01:22:40,275 Bill Thompson wants to be subpoenaed by Congress. 1581 01:22:40,309 --> 01:22:43,709 As a CDC employee from the federal government, 1582 01:22:43,743 --> 01:22:46,609 he cannot speak voluntarily 1583 01:22:46,642 --> 01:22:48,409 because of the threat of jail time. 1584 01:22:48,442 --> 01:22:52,809 Absolutely, William Thompson needs to go before Congress. 1585 01:22:52,843 --> 01:22:54,975 He needs to go before the whole nation. 1586 01:22:55,008 --> 01:22:58,342 Everybody needs to see what he has to say. 1587 01:22:58,376 --> 01:23:00,509 He needs to be deposed in front 1588 01:23:00,542 --> 01:23:01,809 of a committee in Congress. 1589 01:23:01,843 --> 01:23:05,709 And Julie Gerberding has to be brought in and deposed. 1590 01:23:05,743 --> 01:23:09,142 Because this is a very, very, very disturbing revelation. 1591 01:23:09,175 --> 01:23:12,042 For this researcher to come forward and be saying now 1592 01:23:12,075 --> 01:23:16,109 that they were indeed deliberately concealing critical 1593 01:23:16,142 --> 01:23:19,509 information about an MMR autism link... 1594 01:23:19,542 --> 01:23:22,409 horrible, horrible development. 1595 01:23:22,442 --> 01:23:25,109 Deviation from an analysis plan. 1596 01:23:25,142 --> 01:23:27,676 Omission of crucial data. 1597 01:23:27,709 --> 01:23:29,809 Destruction of documents. 1598 01:23:29,843 --> 01:23:32,309 Obstruction of justice. 1599 01:23:32,342 --> 01:23:34,275 Misleading the Congress. 1600 01:23:34,309 --> 01:23:37,743 Grievous harm to innocent children. 1601 01:23:37,776 --> 01:23:40,542 This has to be investigated. 1602 01:23:40,576 --> 01:23:41,843 You and I are in agreement. 1603 01:23:41,875 --> 01:23:44,342 Vaccine safety should not be in the CDC. 1604 01:23:44,376 --> 01:23:45,175 Absolutely. 1605 01:23:45,209 --> 01:23:46,843 You would end up with an agency 1606 01:23:46,875 --> 01:23:49,776 like the National Transportation Safety Board. 1607 01:23:49,809 --> 01:23:52,709 The next thing they need to do is somebody needs 1608 01:23:52,743 --> 01:23:55,342 to reintroduce the Weldon-Maloney Bill. 1609 01:23:55,376 --> 01:23:57,942 It needs to be very, very quickly enacted, and you need 1610 01:23:57,975 --> 01:24:01,476 to take all of the vaccine safety responsibilities 1611 01:24:01,509 --> 01:24:02,676 out of the CDC. 1612 01:24:02,709 --> 01:24:06,908 These children have been maimed by the actions 1613 01:24:06,942 --> 01:24:09,309 of Coleen Boyle, Frank DeStefano, 1614 01:24:09,342 --> 01:24:12,509 Marshalyn Yeargin-Allsop, and Tanya Bhasin. 1615 01:24:12,542 --> 01:24:16,409 My son has been debilitated for 17 years. 1616 01:24:16,442 --> 01:24:20,075 I think jail time is too good for these individuals 1617 01:24:20,109 --> 01:24:22,275 who have perpetrated such fraud. 1618 01:24:22,309 --> 01:24:27,008 The notion of vaccinating children, protecting children 1619 01:24:27,042 --> 01:24:31,109 against serious infectious disease with vaccines 1620 01:24:31,142 --> 01:24:36,008 that are safe and effective is laudable. 1621 01:24:36,042 --> 01:24:39,075 You hear about measles outbreaks in Disneyland, 1622 01:24:39,109 --> 01:24:41,409 and then they try and sell you MMR. 1623 01:24:41,442 --> 01:24:45,175 We didn't see autism being reported as a consequence 1624 01:24:45,209 --> 01:24:48,309 of the single vaccine, only of the triple vaccine. 1625 01:24:48,342 --> 01:24:50,576 So my feeling is that we need 1626 01:24:50,609 --> 01:24:54,042 to review vaccination policy across the board. 1627 01:24:54,075 --> 01:24:55,609 But in the first instance, 1628 01:24:55,642 --> 01:24:59,809 I do believe we can make the problem far less 1629 01:24:59,843 --> 01:25:02,442 if we separate those vaccines 1630 01:25:02,476 --> 01:25:06,843 out into their single measles, mumps and rubella. 1631 01:25:06,875 --> 01:25:08,743 I just cannot imagine what it will be 1632 01:25:08,776 --> 01:25:10,875 like if we really do face a future 1633 01:25:10,908 --> 01:25:14,309 in which half the children born end up on the autism spectrum. 1634 01:25:14,342 --> 01:25:16,642 I mean, it will be so disruptive of the school system. 1635 01:25:16,676 --> 01:25:18,843 There will be so little money to be able to spend 1636 01:25:18,875 --> 01:25:21,476 on the normal children to help them to bring them 1637 01:25:21,509 --> 01:25:22,975 up and to educate them. 1638 01:25:23,008 --> 01:25:25,875 We're just going to have extremely sick children. 1639 01:25:25,908 --> 01:25:30,442 And parents that will be so distracted by the challenge 1640 01:25:30,476 --> 01:25:33,709 of bringing up these children that are so sick 1641 01:25:33,743 --> 01:25:36,642 that our society will not be able to focus on anything else. 1642 01:25:36,676 --> 01:25:38,875 The implications of that for our country, 1643 01:25:38,908 --> 01:25:40,542 for our competitiveness as a nation, 1644 01:25:40,576 --> 01:25:43,008 for our economy, are massive. 1645 01:25:43,042 --> 01:25:45,743 They must know, and they do know, 1646 01:25:45,776 --> 01:25:48,342 that there is a national emergency. 1647 01:25:48,376 --> 01:25:50,709 I mean this is going to be a complete catastrophe 1648 01:25:50,743 --> 01:25:52,509 if we just let it happen. 1649 01:25:55,042 --> 01:25:59,409 What will you say the next time a mother sitting there 1650 01:25:59,442 --> 01:26:04,075 with her baby in her hands says Dr. Rachel, 1651 01:26:04,109 --> 01:26:06,142 is the MMR vaccine safe? 1652 01:26:06,175 --> 01:26:09,342 Hm... I'm going to tell her. 1653 01:26:09,376 --> 01:26:13,309 I'm going to say, you know, honestly I'm not going 1654 01:26:13,342 --> 01:26:17,042 to give the MMR vaccine to my babies, and here's why. 1655 01:27:28,203 --> 01:27:33,203 Subtitles by explosiveskull www.OpenSubtitles.org 135279

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