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NARRATOR: Dyslexia
is a specific
learning disability
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that is
neurobiological
in origin
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and characterized by
difficulties with reading,
writing, spelling or math.
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However, people with
dyslexia are frequently
endowed with talent
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in fields such as art,
science, engineering
and athletics.
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Dyslexia appears in
all cultures and
languages in the world.
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JONATHAN MOONEY:
Uh, good afternoon.
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STUDENTS: Good afternoon.
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My name's Jonathan Mooney,
and it's a great honor
for me to be here.
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Every single time I speak
publicly, I'm very honest
about how for me
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and many kids
like me with
learning differences,
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school sucks
and sucks big time.
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Now...
STUDENTS: (CHEERING)
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I am dyslexic,
I have ADHD, and
ya'll know somethin'?
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I am proud
of it.
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I did not overcome
dyslexia. I am proud
to be dyslexic.
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I am proud to be
a member of
this community.
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I did not overcome
dyslexia. Y'all know
what I overcame?
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I overcame
"dys-teach-ia." Okay?
STUDENTS: (LAUGHING)
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I overcame this
myth that there's
one way to learn,
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and if you don't fit
that one way, something's
wrong with you.
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Let me give
you an example
of how dyslexic I am.
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I studied English literature
at Brown University, right?
Ivy league university,
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studied English
literature, and I read
in the 12th percentile.
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Y'all know what
that means? That means
that I read today,
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I'm 30 years old,
I read like
a 7th grader.
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I've written two books
and I spell at
a 3rd grade level.
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Y'all lookin' at
someone who spells
like a 3rd grader.
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I didn't learn
to read until
I was 12 years old.
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I was labeled learning
disabled or dyslexic
in 4th grade.
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I was labeled ADHD, which
stands for attention deficit
hyperactivity disorder
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in 5th grade and
I dropped out of school
for a year in 6th grade.
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That year, 6th grade,
12 years old, I had
a plan for suicide.
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By the time
I was in
9th grade,
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I was told three
things about myself
on a daily basis.
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I was told
that I was
the stupid kid.
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I heard that
almost every day,
"John you are dumb."
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Number two,
I heard that I was
the crazy or bad kid.
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And number three,
I heard that I was
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lazy.
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Stupid, crazy and lazy.
I was told that
every single day.
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Anybody else in
the audience ever been
told that about themselves?
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Few of us right?
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This guy's going
to raise two hands
and a foot right?
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Yeah you
know it.
STUDENTS: (LAUGHING)
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We're amongst
friends now
aren't we, you know?
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Stupid, crazy
and lazy because
I'm different,
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because y'all are different.
That's the message we get
from traditional schooling.
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We're told everyday
that there's one way
to be smart.
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Now that's a lie.
There are multiple
ways to be smart,
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but in school,
often there's
one way.
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Let's be
honest, right?
In first grade,
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if you spell poorly
and you got
bad handwriting,
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and you don't
read well, guess
what you're called?
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STUDENTS: (MURMURING)
You're called stupid.
Look, I know that we have
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euphemisms for it. I know that
I'm not literally called
stupid. I know I'm called,
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the "at risk learner."
Anyone ever
heard that one?
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Or my favorite. I'm the
special learner, right?
STUDENTS: (LAUGHS)
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Who gets to ride
the special bus
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to the special class
STUDENTS: (LAUGHING)
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when there's not a damn thing
special about any of it right?
STUDENTS: (LAUGHING)
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I've spent my
entire life chasing
this fiction
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that if I just
fixed my reading,
I'd be normal.
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If I fixed
my spelling,
I'd be normal.
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When the reality is,
normal people suck.
STUDENTS: (LAUGHING)
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There is no normal.
There's only you.
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There's only
a singular
intelligence.
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There's only your strengths,
gifts and talents interwoven
with your struggles.
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Normal is
a dead end.
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LD and ADHD,
when channeled
correctly
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are not
abnormalities.
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They're differences.
They're strengths, they're
gifts, they're talents.
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Thank you all very much
for having me. I really
appreciate it. Thank you.
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STUDENTS:
(CHEERING AND CLAPPING)
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You know,
the challenge in
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understanding
this story
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is to understand
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what a monumental
negation of
who you are,
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as a human being,
it is to be told
you're stupid.
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I mean, you know,
I can sit around and
I can talk about it and
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I can tell you anecdotes
of growing up in
the stupid reading group
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and reading out loud,
and all of those things,
you know, scratch the surface
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of what it does to
a human being to point
at somebody and say,
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"Your mind
doesn't work,"
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or, "You're bad."
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The real
tragedy here is
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the...many of these kids are
not only not stupid, they're
the opposite of stupid.
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You know,
they are the
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the next generation
of artists or innovators
or creative thinkers.
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They're the
opposite of it.
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So, not only are
you demeaned as
a human being but,
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your authentic self,
you're really
disconnected from it.
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My last
school was
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uh, really big.
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A thousand, I think,
1,300 kids in the school
in 6th, 7th and 8th grade,
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and I got
beat up
all the time.
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The classes
were so big,
I would never get
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to have one on one time
with my teachers.
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They didn't understand me,
so all of my assignments
were marked down
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because I didn't
spell things correctly,
because of my dysgraphia.
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I didn't understand
the questions 'cause
of my dyslexia.
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I couldn't pay attention
'cause of my ADHD.
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And, I got in lots of fights
with the teachers because they
didn't understand what I was
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trying to say
or what I was
going through.
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You're always wrong.
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You're always
working so hard
to keep up.
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You know that
something's wrong.
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No one's
helping you.
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It was just something
you just stuffed and
stuffed and stuffed in,
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like it's just
such a painful
thing. And...
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...it's such a painful
thing to be confronted
with your...
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yourself.
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In 2nd grade, when
I was starting to be
diagnosed, uhm,
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my teacher
just like,
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she, uhm, sat me down
one day, as we were going
through all these things and
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and told me,
"Stop pretending."
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And that was, like,
that was a trip for me
'cause I was like,
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you know, I'm like eight
years old and stop pretending
about what? She goes,
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she said that I was
pretending to have
a learning disability
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so I could
get attention.
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It's just
a really
lonely feeling.
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You don't really
feel like anyone else
really gets you.
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Or really gets
where you're
coming from.
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I mean, it's hard,
it's hard to talk about
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not understanding
something when you don't
know why you're not.
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You know?
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'Cause like, I didn't
know. I just thought
I was dumb.
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I didn't realize that
there was anything preventing
me from understanding,
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and there were some things
I was good at, so I was
able to kind of hide it
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and compensate,
you know? For
awhile. (LAUGHS)
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The teacher would be like,
"Go up to the board
and spell out this word."
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You're in...it's like
deer in headlights
and it's like,
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"Uh, I don't know how
to spell it even when I'm not
being put on the spot."
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And just dreading
every day you
went to school,
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being picked on
because you're...
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like, considered one of
the foul marks of the school.
I just didn't like it.
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Like, don't pick
on me when it comes
down to reading.
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And like, if they did pick
on me to read, I'll find
a way just to get out of it.
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Like, I'll be
the smart one
in the class
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to make everybody laugh,
so they can kick me
out of class.
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You teachers
out there.
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Some of us don't know how
to approach someone and
say we have a problem.
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Some of us do.
Some of us don't.
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And sometimes,
if there is a kid
like that who's failing,
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who basically...why
don't you just go up and
ask if they have a problem?
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Stress takes a toll and
constantly being confronted
with your weakest
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parts, is
so frustrating.
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Uhm...but
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when you don't know any
better, when you don't
know how to deal with it.
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you just kind of take it.
You take it and
it's like a beating.
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You just keep taking it and
taking it and taking it,
because you're just like...
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I should just
work harder.
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In 6th grade
I was suicidal.
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And that was
pretty bad.
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Uh, I was admitted to
a hospital for a suicide
watch for a couple of weeks.
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I just gave up altogether
and I would stop
doing all my work
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because I was
so frustrated that
I couldn't express
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how I was thinking
onto paper or into
tests, anything.
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There will be times when I'll
pick up a book and it will be
exactly what I wanted to read.
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It's...I don't
know, the new
thing, the story,
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and I just really
want to read it
and I can't.
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And it kills me.
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Like, sometimes
I'll, like, cry.
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I'll pick up a book,
and I'll go to read it
and it hurts.
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I'm not going to
wake up one morning
and read.
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My brain is
just not
wired right.
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I'm gonna talk to you again,
a little bit more formally
about what dyslexia is.
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Right. As we
were talking
about it yesterday,
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it has to do with
reading, and writing
and spelling.
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Not with thinking.
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Right? It's not the
same as a difficulty
with learning.
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When a person
learns how
to read,
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there's a part of your
brain right in here,
called the angular gyrus,
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that does the translation work
of taking those symbols and
turning them into the sounds.
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Now, this is learned
behavior, but some
people learn it
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and that area of the brain
activates very quickly
in their lives.
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Age five or six they
get a little bit of
print instruction,
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little bit of an
idea of how to do it,
some practice,
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and that area of
the brain will
light right up.
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There are other people for
whom this area of the brain
is the one that lights up.
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It's up here
in the pre-frontal
cortex.
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That means you're
trying to think
your way through it.
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You're really
working hard.
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You're really
working hard to try
to decode it,
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but a different area
of the brain is lighting up
along with some of the
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things along this side
and back here in
the visual cortex.
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Different areas
of the brain
will light up
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and they're not
as efficient as
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that area which is the area
that processes that very
quickly and efficiently.
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It's trying to light up
as many areas as it can
to process that thing
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and it's actually,
literally, measurably
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uses five times
more energy to do
the same thing.
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So, if you get exhausted
while you're reading that
would be the reason.
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Keep that in mind.
You're working harder
for less gain, often,
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than the
other people
around you.
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But it's not because
you're not as smart
as they are.
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I have a question
about the ADD
and ADHD?
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ADD could be
attendant on this.
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People can have
both. Right?
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There are
some people who
are just dyslexic.
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There are
some people who
are just ADHD.
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And there are
some people
who have both.
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I think the numbers
are something like 25%
of dyslexics have ADHD,
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and something like
30% of ADHD people
have dyslexia.
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So there's
an overlap.
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Yeah.
Can dyslexia
affect like,
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how you write?
Like, with dysgraphia?
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Uhm, often times if
you're dysgraphic, it's
a sign that you're having
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trouble forming
the symbols.
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You know, I know
people who are
beautiful artists
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and can't
write letters.
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That's 'cause
the dyslexic.
It's hard,
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uhm, and sometimes,
I always say,
"I don't know.
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You know, I don't know
how some people get up
and come to school each day."
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Uhm, I don't know
how you do it.
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We don't either.
What?
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We don't
know either.
I know! (LAUGHS)
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Dyslexia is very
poorly understood
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by almost everybody
in society, including
our students
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who also don't know
what it is that's causing
their frustration,
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their difficulties.
They've just been
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dealing with them
for years, uhm, without
anybody really explaining
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the cognitive
or biological basis
of the condition.
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And so, uhm, the
biggest difficulty
is the emotional one.
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The first thing
we have to do
is, uhm,
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what I call,
academic rehabilitation.
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Just convincing them
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that the school system
is not going to
beat them up,
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and giving them
the idea that
they are smart.
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They can learn,
they can learn
to read.
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They can operate in
an academic environment,
uh, with success.
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And without someone
constantly telling them that
what they're doing is not
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right, when the fact is that
what their teachers have
been doing isn't right.
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When teachers and parents
are willing to step out of
their own box a little,
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and not say that, this is,
you know, "You need to
be in special ed.,"
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and there's so much confusion
about dyslexia. It can really
help the person that has it
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uhm, open the doors
for them, to feel good.
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Nothing feels good when
you're not comprehending
and you can't say it,
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and you're coming
home, like I did,
dejected again
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with another "D" stamped
on your test when
you struggled so hard.
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You know you know the
information but it doesn't
come out that way on paper.
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And I really didn't
want to be
stuck in a box.
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Who does want
to be in a box
their whole life?
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And so I wanted
to fight to get away
from that label
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or that judgment,
that just because
I learned different,
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I was different,
and therefore
if I was different,
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then now suddenly
society thought
I was inferior.
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And I knew I wasn't.
Any dyslexic knows
that they're not inferior.
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They know that they
may be different, but
they've got to know
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that they can rise
to that challenge
and overcome it.
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Words to look out for,
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struggled with,
afflicted by,
suffered from.
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Those types
of words imply
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(MIMICS SADNESS)
"Oh it's so terrible.
Oh it's awful."
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I was not afflicted with
dyslexia. I was afflicted with
a poorly designed system
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that expected me
to be something I'm not.
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And those expectations
and my reality
did not go together.
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It is as though the sun
will explode if you say
out loud, "I read bad."
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Right? My name's
Ben Foss, and
I read terribly.
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There's still this element,
where you, thou must
be able to read.
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And proficiently
and fast and spell
and write, and, uh,
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you know, I disagree.
You need to
read a little.
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I'll give you that.
You gotta be
able to function.
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You gotta be able
to navigate the internet,
for instance.
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If you can get to
that point, good.
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And I'm not saying
the internet's going
to be your career,
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but that would be
my litmus test to say
you know enough.
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You could make up
for the rest.
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I think you have
a learning spectrum,
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uh, it's
not digitized,
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and education has picked
a very narrow window within
a long spectrum to teach.
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And if you're lucky,
you fall in
that spectrum.
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If you're a little to the side
of the spectrum, you'll
probably do okay,
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you'll make it.
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And at some point,
when you get to
one end or the other,
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they'll label you with
somethin' and dyslexia's
a popular one, ADD is another.
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I don't subscribe in either
of those two, that anyone can
pinpoint, this is a disease.
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The way I look at
it is, you learn
outside of our today,
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here, United
States of America,
learning spectrum.
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Ah, I always like
to get to root cause
of a problem,
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and the root cause
of the problem
here is
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how we're teaching,
not how we're learning.
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And so you're labeling
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not a method of teaching, but
the method of learning when
the problem is the reverse.
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And so, we're trying
to fix the effect
and not the cause.
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NARRATOR: If a student
experiences a great
deal of frustration
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in a public
or private school,
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he may choose
to attend a school
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with a curriculum
designed for
dyslexic students.
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TEACHER: From the beginning.
I wouldn't
have helped
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NARRATOR: The Kildonan School
in Amenia, New York
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uses a program that
addresses the strengths
of each student,
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while also providing
an individual daily
tutorial for reading.
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...uh, subject,
returning to me.
I couldn't...
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NARRATOR: Although
there are a number of
these private schools
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throughout the country,
they only serve 1% of the
students with dyslexia.
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...uhm,
his time.
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Export.
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(READS SLOWLY)
Emancipate. Emancipate.
Mm-hmm.
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Edifee.
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Edify.
TEACHER: Good.
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(READS SLOWLY)
Uh, expedi...tation?
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(READS SLOWLY)
Expedition. Expedition.
Mm-hmm. Good.
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Effossi...sive.
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This is long.
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Effuse...effusieve?
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Good. Effusive.
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What does
that mean?
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Well, first off
at Kildonan each
student receives
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uhm, a tutorial,
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one hour or so,
Orton-Gillingham
tutoring period.
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Which is a
systematic, uhm,
very sort of
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methodical approach
to teaching, uhm, students
how to read and write.
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I've tutored, now,
dyslexics for
eight years,
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and I've never had
two kids that were
alike in their dyslexia.
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Uhm, there's
so many component
parts to it,
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uhm, that although
there is a category
called dyslexia,
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I do not believe
that there is
any one dyslexic.
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I think that different
dyslexics have
auditory processing,
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verbal expression,
long term, short term
working memory.
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It's all different.
It's almost like a, maybe
when you edit the film,
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there'll be like, uhm,
a soundboard. I don't know
if you use a soundboard.
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They're all at
different levels.
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No immortal god escapes
from you, nor any man
who lives but for a day.
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And the one
whom you possess
goes mad.
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Even in good men
you twist
their minds,
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perverting them to their
own ruin. You provoke
these men to family strife,
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the bride's desire seems
glittering in her eyes that
conquers everything.
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I have kind of
a tougher time
learning
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than a "normal" person
would, you know? I can't
comprehend things.
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But I'm a fine reader.
Like, I can read
perfectly...
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...basically. But I just
cannot comprehend what I'm
reading.
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So...yeah.
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I need one on one help.
I couldn't be in a classroom
with thirty people.
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Public school
is just way
too, uhm,
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way too many
people. I mean
it's fun, you know?
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It's fun being
with all your
friends and stuff.
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But, uhm,
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it didn't
work out for me,
didn't cut it.
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You know, dyslexia
is a serious thing
with me, at least,
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and I know tons of kids
that if you call them
mentally challenged
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or, like,
retarded,
I mean
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like, we're
not retarded.
Like, we're not.
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We are actually
really smart people.
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TEACHER: Okay,
so what does
this become?
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Uh, it becomes X
minus 3 squared.
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MARA: Then, plus Y
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minus 2
quantity squared
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divided by one
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equals one.
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They didn't
really quite
understand me
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because I was
always good
at math.
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Math always
came easy
to me.
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It was a walk in
the park. I could do it
simply and easily.
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And reading,
everything just
fell apart.
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So they were kind of
like, "Oh, well she'll
grow out of it."
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"She's so good at math.
She's so good at math
that she'll grow out of it."
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And then they said
this for a good
three or four years.
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And I'm staying
at the same level
where I am,
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and a year is going by and
everybody else is improving
but I'm staying behind.
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I would
never read
out loud.
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There would be no way,
because it would be
every other...
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not every other, like,
every word I'd be
stumbling through to get
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through, and it wouldn't
sound and usually they'd
just tell me to stop.
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I got through
a sentence and
I was like,
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all, everybody else got
through, like, three or
four paragraphs and I'm
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one sentence.
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I was three or four levels
behind and they asked me to
leave the school because
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they couldn't,
I mean,
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I was so
far behind,
they didn't
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think I could
catch up
or anything,
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which I really
needed at
that point
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some help, because
I wasn't reading
anything, really.
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Know that you're needing help
and, like, try to be specific
about what is going wrong.
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So, if you can
tell them,
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"This is where
it's going wrong."
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Or like the reading part,
this is where it's going
wrong. And the writing part.
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Like, try to be
specific as possible
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to, like, understand
your problem and
then ask for help.
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It, like, ask for help is
like, the simplest thing
you can do and yet
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yet not
many people
like doing that.
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So...and you
shouldn't
be ashamed.
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You should not
be ashamed, at all,
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for the fact
that you're having
this problem
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or to go
and ask
for the help.
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Unk.
Good.
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Ank.
Good.
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Oink. Onk.
Not oink.
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Is there an "I"
in there?
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Onk.
Onk and ong.
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Good.
What was
this word?
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Oink.
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(LAUGHS) Do
you see any
pigs on here?
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No but there should be a pig.
Okay, but it
doesn't say oink.
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00:25:15,834 --> 00:25:19,033
Okay? It's not a pig word.
Okay, so onk. Say it again.
Onk.
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Onk.
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00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,934
Okay, I get these...
I get "o" words
mixed up.
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Okay. Good.
Ong.
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Okay, now be
very careful.
It's not a pig.
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Oink. Oing.
(LAUGHS)
(LAUGHS)
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Onk, onk.
Onk.
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00:25:36,834 --> 00:25:40,600
The school wasn't
helping me the way
that it should have.
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It should have had
a program that would
help kids like me.
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But they didn't,
so we had
to look at,
405
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we had to
look at two
different schools.
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They said that this school
would be the best for me
because everybody fits in.
407
00:25:58,700 --> 00:26:01,333
It makes me feel
a little happy because
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I know that all
these kids have
something that's,
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that's different
about them, and
410
00:26:08,300 --> 00:26:10,967
it makes me
feel comfortable.
411
00:26:11,033 --> 00:26:16,600
Yeah, but for some
reason eating time
is a little, uhm,
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not on the good side
'cause I cry usually,
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on Wednesdays
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and that's
kind of not
that happy.
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But sometimes
it happens and
you can't stop that,
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but there are
ways that
you can.
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INTERVIEWER:
Do you know why
you feel that way?
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Probably 'cause
at my old school
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kids never
wanted me to
sit next to them.
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They were
treating me, like,
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everybody else
in the school was
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like, a certain way
and I wasn't.
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00:26:52,834 --> 00:26:55,433
So, they
thought that
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different was bad.
But different is good.
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INTERVIEWER:
And when did you
learn that?
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Well, it's
just, like,
an instinct to me.
427
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When I encountered
school,
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when my mother took me
to the school gates
to meet the teacher,
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through the school
gates and the teacher's
waiting for me,
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and I was greeted,
not greeted.
431
00:27:26,700 --> 00:27:31,467
I suppose I was
introduced to
an evil woman.
432
00:27:31,533 --> 00:27:34,300
It's just
like going into
Dracula's castle,
433
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being greeted
by somebody
who speaks like,
434
00:27:38,567 --> 00:27:42,500
with her head like this,
(MIMICS TEACHER)
"Are you the new boy?"
435
00:27:44,934 --> 00:27:46,767
Yes, yes.
436
00:27:46,834 --> 00:27:50,066
"You'll address me
as Mrs. Adams, and
don't you forget that."
437
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,467
And her eyes
would go...
438
00:27:54,533 --> 00:27:58,100
"Come along with me
and I shall introduce you
to the rest of the children."
439
00:27:59,033 --> 00:28:00,467
"Here's some chalk.
440
00:28:01,900 --> 00:28:03,333
Here's the blackboard.
441
00:28:04,266 --> 00:28:05,667
Write your name."
442
00:28:07,133 --> 00:28:13,133
So,I drew a picture
of a little man,
which was me. (LAUGHS)
443
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:16,767
Some of the kids started
to chuckle. I could
hear them laughing.
444
00:28:16,834 --> 00:28:21,333
(MIMICS TEACHER)
"That's not your name.
Write your name!"
445
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,000
So I just got
the chalk
and made...
446
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:29,400
just a circle and
then another circle
and then...
447
00:28:29,467 --> 00:28:32,867
made a, drew a dog,
which was my dog
448
00:28:32,934 --> 00:28:37,033
and drew...whatever.
449
00:28:37,100 --> 00:28:40,066
Because I don't
have any experience
of writing so
450
00:28:40,133 --> 00:28:43,734
that was it.
And then she
said to me, uhm,
451
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:45,767
"Children,
452
00:28:45,834 --> 00:28:47,000
here we have
453
00:28:48,033 --> 00:28:50,734
an exhibition
of failure.
454
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:52,867
He is
failure.
455
00:28:52,934 --> 00:28:55,266
This is what
not to become.
456
00:28:57,867 --> 00:29:00,000
The reason why
457
00:29:00,066 --> 00:29:03,133
the word failure
was written in
the dictionary
458
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:04,900
was because
of Willard.
459
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,633
Willard is failure."
460
00:29:09,867 --> 00:29:13,133
When she
told me that,
I, uhm,
461
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,400
I said to myself then,
even though I was
only a child,
462
00:29:17,467 --> 00:29:20,600
I realized what
she said so,
463
00:29:20,667 --> 00:29:22,834
because she
said I was that,
464
00:29:22,900 --> 00:29:26,633
uhm, she
destroyed me.
465
00:29:28,033 --> 00:29:30,100
So, I was destroyed.
466
00:29:30,166 --> 00:29:33,100
So, that was it.
Destroyed
academically.
467
00:29:33,166 --> 00:29:36,200
Obliterated.
That is it.
468
00:29:36,266 --> 00:29:40,633
I became a bit of
a recluse. I locked
myself away a lot.
469
00:29:40,700 --> 00:29:43,600
You know, disappear.
Like Howard Hughes.
(LAUGHS)
470
00:29:43,667 --> 00:29:46,200
And just stayed
there working.
471
00:29:46,266 --> 00:29:50,600
I did a carving of
Miss Havisham on
a toothpick on the point.
472
00:29:50,667 --> 00:29:53,934
And the first thing
my mother said
to me was,
473
00:29:54,000 --> 00:30:01,767
"That is beautiful.
That is very,
very nice.
474
00:30:01,834 --> 00:30:03,767
That is, incredible."
475
00:30:04,834 --> 00:30:07,367
My artwork
becomes a defense.
476
00:30:07,433 --> 00:30:10,834
So, I'm going,
"I am going to be
the greatest.
477
00:30:10,900 --> 00:30:14,834
I am going to be
the greatest," in
my head.
478
00:30:24,934 --> 00:30:28,567
(INDISTINCT CHATTERING)
479
00:30:47,367 --> 00:30:50,367
Thank you very much.
Yep. Pleasure.
480
00:30:50,433 --> 00:30:54,834
I saw a microscope
on the table and I put
my hand up to ask a question.
481
00:30:54,900 --> 00:30:57,100
And then
he said, uhm,
482
00:30:57,166 --> 00:31:02,734
"You don't need to, uh, know
because your brain doesn't
have the, doesn't have,"
483
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:04,834
Mr. Reilly said,
"You don't
need to know
484
00:31:04,900 --> 00:31:07,967
because your
brain does not
have the capacity
485
00:31:08,033 --> 00:31:12,767
so it's
pointless.
Next."
486
00:31:12,834 --> 00:31:16,533
So, when he said that to me,
I looked on the table
and saw a microscope
487
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:18,900
and that microscope
had my name
written on it.
488
00:31:18,967 --> 00:31:22,667
So I decided
to take the
microscope.
489
00:31:22,734 --> 00:31:24,900
And they went round,
you know, each boy,
490
00:31:24,967 --> 00:31:28,100
(MIMICS TEACHER)
"Bradford was it you
that stole the microscope?"
491
00:31:28,166 --> 00:31:30,266
Bradford would say,
"No, not me."
492
00:31:30,333 --> 00:31:34,233
"Whittaker was
it you?" No. "Cottle,
was it you?"
493
00:31:34,300 --> 00:31:37,834
"Lear was it you?
Thompson was it you?"
494
00:31:37,900 --> 00:31:41,066
"Fletcher was it you?"
"No sir, it wasn't me."
495
00:31:41,133 --> 00:31:42,967
And he came to me.
496
00:31:43,033 --> 00:31:46,400
"I know it's not you Wigan.
You wouldn't have a brain
for a microscope.
497
00:31:46,467 --> 00:31:48,767
"Turner, was
it you?" (LAUGHS)
498
00:31:49,967 --> 00:31:53,000
Yeah, that was good,
a good feeling.
499
00:31:53,066 --> 00:31:54,767
He said,
500
00:31:54,834 --> 00:31:58,533
"I know it's not you because
you wouldn't have the brain
for a microscope."
501
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:00,633
So that was good.
(LAUGHS)
502
00:32:00,700 --> 00:32:03,533
INTERVIEWER: And then
what did you do with
the microscope?
503
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,400
I became who
I am today.
504
00:32:06,300 --> 00:32:08,734
I continued
505
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:13,767
to create smaller
and smaller
sculptures.
506
00:32:13,834 --> 00:32:17,266
Then I started
to experiment
with my fingers.
507
00:32:17,333 --> 00:32:20,700
As I was sculpting,
I was looking at the way
my pulse was moving.
508
00:32:20,767 --> 00:32:23,133
I started to train
my pulse beat
509
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,467
so I could work
between my
heartbeats.
510
00:32:26,433 --> 00:32:29,033
The frame
is the eye.
511
00:32:29,100 --> 00:32:32,734
If I wanted to
put Noah's Ark
inside there with
512
00:32:33,667 --> 00:32:35,800
15 animals
513
00:32:35,867 --> 00:32:39,400
or 20 animals,
I could.
514
00:32:39,467 --> 00:32:44,533
Me now, I could put 9 camels
in the eye of the needle,
which I already have.
515
00:32:46,166 --> 00:32:50,166
But my favorite was
Alice in Wonderland,
the Mad Hatter's tea party.
516
00:32:50,233 --> 00:32:53,900
That was my favorite one.
That's one I could
sit back and go,
517
00:32:53,967 --> 00:32:56,333
"Hmm. Yeah."
518
00:32:57,433 --> 00:32:59,333
Charlie Chaplin
was very hard.
519
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,834
That's one of
the all time
favorites
520
00:33:02,900 --> 00:33:05,033
because he's
on the end
of an eyelash.
521
00:33:09,700 --> 00:33:12,967
And then,
before I knew it,
522
00:33:13,033 --> 00:33:16,133
I was invited
to Buckingham Palace
to receive
523
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:17,934
a medal.
524
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:22,400
It's one of the highest
honors you can get.
It's called the MBE.
525
00:33:22,467 --> 00:33:25,100
Prince Charles
was there.
526
00:33:25,166 --> 00:33:28,967
I bowed like that and
he shook my hands
and he said to me,
527
00:33:29,033 --> 00:33:34,600
(MIMICS PRINCE) "That is the
most phenomenal artwork I have
ever seen in my whole life.
528
00:33:34,667 --> 00:33:41,266
How does one create
such works of art? Such
wonders. It is beyond belief.
529
00:33:41,333 --> 00:33:44,400
You are
a true genius.
530
00:33:44,467 --> 00:33:48,433
Absolutely incredible."
And he was shaking
my hand for a long time.
531
00:33:48,500 --> 00:33:50,400
So my hand
was being shook.
532
00:33:50,467 --> 00:33:53,500
So, Rod Stewart
was waiting there
and a few more.
533
00:33:53,567 --> 00:33:57,333
And my hand was being
shook more than the others.
And he was saying to me,
534
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:01,033
"How do you keep
your hand so still
to do this work?
535
00:34:01,967 --> 00:34:04,200
It is pure genius."
536
00:34:04,266 --> 00:34:06,467
And then,
I'm just
thinking,
537
00:34:06,533 --> 00:34:10,900
"Thank you." Because every
time he's saying that to me,
I'm getting greater, and I'm,
538
00:34:10,967 --> 00:34:14,400
I'm looking back at
the past and I'm looking back
at the, back at...
539
00:34:14,467 --> 00:34:18,133
...my learning
difficulties and it
didn't matter anymore.
540
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:20,266
Dyslexic is
actually a gift.
541
00:34:23,033 --> 00:34:24,533
That's what
I believe.
542
00:34:27,433 --> 00:34:31,467
One of the things
that I laugh about
is when anyone says
543
00:34:31,533 --> 00:34:36,066
that reading is
a natural act.
Reading is un-natural.
544
00:34:36,133 --> 00:34:40,967
Reading is a cultural
invention. There is
nothing natural about it.
545
00:34:41,033 --> 00:34:42,934
Every reader
546
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:44,433
had to have
547
00:34:44,500 --> 00:34:48,900
a brain that
created a whole
new circuitry
548
00:34:48,967 --> 00:34:50,900
for that
reading process.
549
00:34:50,967 --> 00:34:53,500
Well, in the case
of dyslexia
550
00:34:53,567 --> 00:34:58,333
what we have
is a differently
acquired circuit
551
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,367
that's new to
the species.
552
00:35:00,433 --> 00:35:03,767
It's a blink of
the evolutionary eye.
553
00:35:03,834 --> 00:35:08,433
We've only been
reading for basically
5,000 years.
554
00:35:08,500 --> 00:35:10,533
It's nothing.
555
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,100
It is a wonderful
thing to remember
556
00:35:13,166 --> 00:35:17,800
that this is one of
the newest inventions
of the species.
557
00:35:17,867 --> 00:35:23,367
But, the children who are
among us with dyslexia
have always been there,
558
00:35:23,433 --> 00:35:25,600
and they've
always been there
for a reason.
559
00:35:25,667 --> 00:35:29,834
They have a very
important role
to play, that brain,
560
00:35:29,900 --> 00:35:35,066
in our design, in our art,
in our building, in our
thinking in novel ways.
561
00:35:35,133 --> 00:35:38,567
They've been
doing that pre
5,000 years.
562
00:35:38,633 --> 00:35:42,567
Only in the last,
even, 100 years
563
00:35:42,633 --> 00:35:44,233
have we called it
564
00:35:44,300 --> 00:35:49,600
uh, something that would
have a name that would
sound like a disease.
565
00:35:49,667 --> 00:35:55,200
The heart, for me,
the heart of some of
the emotional difficulties
566
00:35:55,266 --> 00:35:59,400
our kids have as
consequences of
learning disabilities
567
00:36:00,567 --> 00:36:03,567
begins with
the fact that
people equate
568
00:36:03,633 --> 00:36:07,000
being able
to read with
being smart,
569
00:36:07,066 --> 00:36:09,233
with intelligence.
570
00:36:09,300 --> 00:36:11,967
Reading
involves
571
00:36:12,033 --> 00:36:15,800
many aspects and
it involves the use
of our intelligence,
572
00:36:15,867 --> 00:36:18,300
but if you
realize that
reading
573
00:36:18,367 --> 00:36:23,600
only exists as the
circuitry that connects
intelligence to itself,
574
00:36:23,667 --> 00:36:25,667
it's not about
intelligence.
575
00:36:25,734 --> 00:36:29,767
That intelligence already
exists independently.
It's being connected
576
00:36:29,834 --> 00:36:31,467
to the circuit.
577
00:36:31,533 --> 00:36:38,000
Reading, as you know,
is to me one of the great
miracles of cognition.
578
00:36:38,066 --> 00:36:42,066
But it's not
equatable with
intelligence.
579
00:36:42,133 --> 00:36:44,867
Some of
our children
with dyslexia
580
00:36:44,934 --> 00:36:49,400
are some of
our most intellectually
gifted humans.
581
00:36:49,467 --> 00:36:52,667
It's a form
of intelligence.
It's a form
582
00:36:52,734 --> 00:36:57,166
of brain organization
that they have that
leads them to be
583
00:36:57,233 --> 00:37:01,567
often times our artists,
our architects, our
pattern recognizers
584
00:37:01,633 --> 00:37:04,200
in radiology
and astronomy.
585
00:37:04,266 --> 00:37:06,333
But they
think often
586
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:10,533
outside the box of
our conventional left
hemisphere thinking.
587
00:37:11,567 --> 00:37:14,834
I love them.
Our species
588
00:37:14,900 --> 00:37:19,066
would never be what it is,
without that form
of brain organization.
589
00:37:21,734 --> 00:37:26,433
The actual discovery
was something we did
about 25 years ago
590
00:37:26,500 --> 00:37:29,533
where we were trying
to understand the
basic phenomenon
591
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:31,967
of how chromosomes
are maintained.
592
00:37:32,033 --> 00:37:35,200
So, the chromosomes
are in the cell and
they have to package
593
00:37:35,266 --> 00:37:38,633
all of the DNA
for the genetic
material in the cell.
594
00:37:38,700 --> 00:37:41,567
And there was
this puzzle
about how it is
595
00:37:41,633 --> 00:37:46,533
that they can be copied
completely to the end
every time a cell divides.
596
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,467
The Nobel Prize
was given for
Physiology or Medicine
597
00:37:49,533 --> 00:37:51,300
and the medical
implications
598
00:37:51,367 --> 00:37:53,333
of the fundamental
discovery
599
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:56,367
uh, weren't apparent
until we, and many
other people,
600
00:37:56,433 --> 00:38:00,800
had then followed up and
understood, that it turned
out this enzyme telomerase
601
00:38:00,867 --> 00:38:04,000
plays a major role
in human disease.
602
00:38:04,066 --> 00:38:07,734
INTERVIEWER: When do you
think you first understood
that you had dyslexia?
603
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,567
I didn't understand
that it was dyslexia
until much later
604
00:38:10,633 --> 00:38:13,166
because at that
time they weren't
diagnosing dyslexia.
605
00:38:13,233 --> 00:38:17,300
Uhm, I was told that
I was a poor speller.
I was taken out of classes,
606
00:38:17,367 --> 00:38:21,533
uhm, given remedial
training and I always
thought that I was really
607
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:23,233
kind of stupid.
(LAUGHS)
608
00:38:23,300 --> 00:38:25,834
I mean I got Ds
and Fs in my
English class,
609
00:38:25,900 --> 00:38:29,767
which of course I didn't
really care because it wasn't
going to count for anything.
610
00:38:29,834 --> 00:38:33,834
But looking back
at those then years later
I thought, "You know,"
611
00:38:33,900 --> 00:38:36,467
"Maybe there was
really something
going on here."
612
00:38:36,533 --> 00:38:40,300
Uhm, and then when
it came to the
standardized tests, uhm,
613
00:38:40,367 --> 00:38:47,166
I just did very, very poorly
on standardized tests,
both the SATs and the GREs.
614
00:38:47,233 --> 00:38:53,867
The only thing that I can
figure out is this connection
between, uhm, you know, my
615
00:38:53,934 --> 00:38:57,734
complete inability to see
a new word and pronounce it.
I still can't do that.
616
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:00,600
Reading when my kids
were small. Reading
dinosaur books.
617
00:39:00,667 --> 00:39:02,333
I couldn't do it.
(LAUGHS)
618
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:05,633
All those dinosaur names
I would pronounce them
wrong every single time.
619
00:39:05,700 --> 00:39:09,033
Unless I would memorize
them. Like triceratops,
I can get that one now.
620
00:39:09,100 --> 00:39:12,000
Or ichthyosaurs, but
that's only because
I've memorized it.
621
00:39:12,066 --> 00:39:14,166
And then
when my son
was dyslexic,
622
00:39:14,233 --> 00:39:16,667
I had a little bit
more understanding
when he had,
623
00:39:16,734 --> 00:39:20,734
when he had trouble in school
and needed the tutoring and
all of that sort of stuff.
624
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:22,633
It was very
clear to me
625
00:39:22,700 --> 00:39:25,400
that it was going to be
helpful for him to get
tutoring really early.
626
00:39:25,467 --> 00:39:29,033
And then I read all
the books on dyslexia,
uhm, and, uhm,
627
00:39:29,100 --> 00:39:30,934
decided that,
you know,
628
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,867
to help him along.
And he's done
very well now,
629
00:39:33,934 --> 00:39:36,600
and he's
in regular
school, so...
630
00:39:36,667 --> 00:39:39,433
But now, you know,
having thought more
about the dyslexia
631
00:39:39,500 --> 00:39:42,133
and all that sort of
stuff and read
more about it, uhm,
632
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:44,000
I go back and
I question,
you know,
633
00:39:44,066 --> 00:39:46,567
"Maybe I really
wasn't as stupid
as I thought I was?"
634
00:39:46,633 --> 00:39:49,333
And, you know,
I learned that
I had to work hard,
635
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,867
but maybe I was
putting myself in
a different category
636
00:39:52,934 --> 00:39:55,166
uh, because there
wasn't anyone
around to say,
637
00:39:55,233 --> 00:39:58,600
"It's not because you're
stupid, it's because you
have this other, uhm,
638
00:39:58,667 --> 00:40:01,033
this other issue,"
which I can now
say to my son.
639
00:40:01,100 --> 00:40:04,000
I can say, you know,
"Look, I'm a professor
at Johns Hopkins.
640
00:40:04,066 --> 00:40:08,633
Just because you're dyslexic
doesn't mean you can't do
anything you want to do."
641
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:19,000
So, we acquire
two types of images,
642
00:40:19,066 --> 00:40:22,834
those that contain functional
information about where
there's brain activity
643
00:40:22,900 --> 00:40:25,667
and another that
gives us information
about brain anatomy.
644
00:40:25,734 --> 00:40:30,066
And this scan here,
which is our participant's
brain at this point.
645
00:40:30,133 --> 00:40:33,633
And we're just scrolling
from the left side to
the right side of the brain
646
00:40:33,700 --> 00:40:37,700
and we can begin to see
the brain structures
that we're interested in.
647
00:40:37,767 --> 00:40:39,567
The goal of using
brain imaging
648
00:40:39,633 --> 00:40:42,667
is to help us understand
how the brain is
specialized for different
649
00:40:42,734 --> 00:40:46,133
functions, and the
function that we're
interested in is reading.
650
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:49,000
People who doubt
whether there's such
a thing as dyslexia,
651
00:40:49,066 --> 00:40:53,333
I think there should be no
doubt in their mind because
the research is so clear.
652
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:56,133
The technology
that we use,
brain imaging,
653
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:59,867
is one of the areas where
I think it's really helped
people to understand
654
00:40:59,934 --> 00:41:02,633
that even though
this is an invisible
condition,
655
00:41:02,700 --> 00:41:06,834
it's now become
visible because we can
see it in the brain.
656
00:41:06,900 --> 00:41:10,467
It's been known,
for almost
30 years now,
657
00:41:10,533 --> 00:41:13,066
that when you
look at the brain
anatomy of a person
658
00:41:13,133 --> 00:41:16,600
with and without dyslexia,
that there are some
differences that
659
00:41:16,667 --> 00:41:19,166
you can see
almost with
the naked eye.
660
00:41:19,233 --> 00:41:24,467
And what people have
found is that when
you at readers who
661
00:41:24,533 --> 00:41:28,667
are skilled readers,
we see a network
in the left hemisphere
662
00:41:28,734 --> 00:41:33,166
involving regions
in the temporal lobe
663
00:41:33,233 --> 00:41:38,333
and then up in
parietal areas and
then in frontal regions.
664
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:42,000
Three areas that are
the sort of the typical
network involved in reading.
665
00:41:42,066 --> 00:41:45,133
And what we find
in people who are
dyslexic readers,
666
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:49,200
areas in the back of the brain
don't tend to be engaged
during the reading process
667
00:41:49,266 --> 00:41:52,867
like they are
in non-dyslexic
readers.
668
00:41:52,934 --> 00:41:56,433
And what this is showing
you is that areas
in the left hemisphere
669
00:41:56,500 --> 00:42:00,000
tend to be under
activated in people
with dyslexia.
670
00:42:00,066 --> 00:42:01,800
That they're
under activating
671
00:42:01,867 --> 00:42:06,000
areas back here
in the brain in parietal
and temporal cortices.
672
00:42:06,066 --> 00:42:07,967
But what's
striking here
673
00:42:08,033 --> 00:42:10,400
are the changes that
we've observed in
the right hemisphere.
674
00:42:10,467 --> 00:42:12,400
We don't think of
the right hemisphere
675
00:42:12,467 --> 00:42:14,734
as being that
involved in the
reading process.
676
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:18,767
And the change seems to have
been brought about in part
by the right hemisphere
677
00:42:18,834 --> 00:42:24,100
chiming in to what is
normally considered
a left hemisphere function.
678
00:42:24,166 --> 00:42:27,867
So developmental
dyslexia is, is a
learning disability
679
00:42:27,934 --> 00:42:32,033
in, in the field of learning
disabilities, it's the most
prominent learning disability.
680
00:42:32,100 --> 00:42:34,767
It accounts for about
80% of all learning
disabilities.
681
00:42:34,834 --> 00:42:37,100
Why do children
have dyslexia? Well,
682
00:42:37,166 --> 00:42:38,633
for a number
of reasons.
683
00:42:38,700 --> 00:42:41,567
Again, it's thought
to be inheritable
so you will see
684
00:42:41,633 --> 00:42:45,266
uhm, in some individuals
who have dyslexia that
they have it in their family.
685
00:42:45,333 --> 00:42:47,367
If you have
a parent
with dyslexia,
686
00:42:47,433 --> 00:42:52,734
the chances that their
child will have dyslexia
are between 35 and 40%.
687
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:55,233
So it runs
in families.
We know that.
688
00:42:55,300 --> 00:42:57,000
I think
it's important
to recognize
689
00:42:57,066 --> 00:42:59,633
that when you
work with a student
who has dyslexia
690
00:42:59,700 --> 00:43:03,166
that this is a lifelong
issue. It just doesn't
go away. So,
691
00:43:03,233 --> 00:43:06,300
it helps in terms of
having them develop
the right attitude
692
00:43:06,367 --> 00:43:09,133
to recognize that they
will always have
to deal with this.
693
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:12,066
But the majority
of the population
with dyslexia is adult.
694
00:43:12,133 --> 00:43:14,266
And people
shouldn't give up
on the adults.
695
00:43:14,333 --> 00:43:17,667
The problem is that the
adults are no longer
in an educational setting
696
00:43:17,734 --> 00:43:19,800
where they
receive
interventions.
697
00:43:19,867 --> 00:43:23,367
And so they don't often have
access to continue to
improve their reading skills.
698
00:43:23,433 --> 00:43:26,133
But what we and
others have shown
is that, that
699
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:30,633
when you teach an adult with
dyslexia to learn to read
they can still make gains.
700
00:43:30,700 --> 00:43:34,066
And the brain is
really quite plastic.
It shows a really
701
00:43:34,133 --> 00:43:37,100
significant way
in which it's
organized for reading.
702
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,467
There are those
who believe there
is something to do
703
00:43:42,533 --> 00:43:45,100
with a literal
configuration
of the brain,
704
00:43:45,166 --> 00:43:48,867
the ability
to process
certain ways
705
00:43:48,934 --> 00:43:50,767
and uhm,
706
00:43:50,834 --> 00:43:54,834
that it is
a disorder, a deficit,
a dysfunction
707
00:43:54,900 --> 00:43:58,533
within the brain.
That is a
medicalized view.
708
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:03,700
Uhm, the other view
that I prefer and
tend towards is
709
00:44:05,467 --> 00:44:07,066
this is just
human variation
710
00:44:07,133 --> 00:44:10,066
and people are born
all different kinds
of ways.
711
00:44:10,133 --> 00:44:13,433
Whereas if you think
the human race is divided
into two peoples,
712
00:44:13,500 --> 00:44:16,166
the learning disabled
and the non
learning disabled,
713
00:44:16,233 --> 00:44:19,900
it gets super
questionable
because people
714
00:44:19,967 --> 00:44:24,367
think, uhm,
that's what defines
that person.
715
00:44:24,433 --> 00:44:28,667
But, in essence,
a label has been
given to them, uhm,
716
00:44:28,734 --> 00:44:32,400
and it's meant
to be beneficial
in theory.
717
00:44:32,467 --> 00:44:36,066
But in many cases
and in sometimes
the majority of cases
718
00:44:36,133 --> 00:44:39,400
it could be detrimental
to the kid depending upon
719
00:44:39,467 --> 00:44:42,633
where their school
is located,
the quality of their
720
00:44:42,700 --> 00:44:45,700
teachers teaching them.
All that kind of stuff.
721
00:44:45,767 --> 00:44:47,934
They become sort of
2nd class citizens.
722
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,066
The system did not
recognize that.
723
00:44:50,133 --> 00:44:53,400
Special Education,
as a field, does not
really recognize that,
724
00:44:53,467 --> 00:44:55,767
which is
very troubling
indeed.
725
00:44:55,834 --> 00:44:59,934
Uhm, people who have been
labeled, that label kind of
sticks with them for life.
726
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:03,133
It's like it
becomes inscribed
upon them
727
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:08,934
and they internalize it and
they kind of come to think
of themselves as not as good,
728
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:15,700
uhm, inferior to,
not normal, ah,
etcetera etcetera.
729
00:45:15,767 --> 00:45:21,700
And I think psychologically
that's very cruel
to do to kids.
730
00:45:21,767 --> 00:45:24,700
I mean Special
Education really,
731
00:45:24,767 --> 00:45:29,767
I hate to put it this way.
It's dressed up and
it's called "special,"
732
00:45:29,834 --> 00:45:34,100
but it really is education
of students who have
been labeled disabled.
733
00:45:36,633 --> 00:45:39,934
It probably started
734
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:42,300
when I was
in elementary school
735
00:45:42,367 --> 00:45:49,667
uhm, when I was, uhm, pulled
out of a regular 6th grade
edu...uhm, regular class
736
00:45:49,734 --> 00:45:51,734
into a Special
Education class.
737
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:56,400
They never labeled
me as special
or as different.
738
00:45:56,467 --> 00:46:01,767
They just said I was
really slow in comprehending
and, uhm, doing my work,
739
00:46:01,834 --> 00:46:05,066
especially with
math and reading
and writing.
740
00:46:05,133 --> 00:46:08,200
INTERVIEWER: Did they ever
say you were dyslexic?
No.
741
00:46:08,266 --> 00:46:10,834
They just said
I was slow.
742
00:46:10,900 --> 00:46:14,867
Sometimes when you're
an inner city kid
locked into a box
743
00:46:14,934 --> 00:46:19,934
with limited socio
economic skills
and things like that,
744
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:26,300
you can't really see yourself
as being beyond a learning
disability child or student.
745
00:46:26,367 --> 00:46:31,367
Uhm, I think that label
sometimes really places
students in a box
746
00:46:31,433 --> 00:46:34,233
where they
limit their
abilities.
747
00:46:34,300 --> 00:46:38,266
And they really,
it's hard for them to see
what they're good at
748
00:46:38,333 --> 00:46:39,700
once they're
labeled.
749
00:46:39,767 --> 00:46:45,066
So I sat,
did my work, and
just moved on,
750
00:46:45,133 --> 00:46:48,967
uhm, never
really receiving
much help but
751
00:46:49,033 --> 00:46:53,900
I guess because I was
in a smaller class I was
supposed to, but not really.
752
00:46:53,967 --> 00:46:56,767
INTERVIEWER: How long
did you stay
in Special Ed?
753
00:46:56,834 --> 00:46:59,300
Until I graduated
high school.
754
00:46:59,367 --> 00:47:01,133
Once the kid
is placed,
755
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:03,500
the kids used to
call it the Roach Motel.
756
00:47:03,567 --> 00:47:06,800
Remember the advertisement,
"Once You Check In,
You Never Check Out?"
757
00:47:06,867 --> 00:47:10,367
And something like
2% of kids go back
into general ed.
758
00:47:10,433 --> 00:47:13,500
or become de-certified
and don't have their I.E.P.,
759
00:47:13,567 --> 00:47:17,533
some minuscule
amount, like 1 in 50
or something.
760
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:20,533
The kids who
possibly are
labeled dyslexic...
761
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:23,734
I have to go
on record, as there
are very few, uhm,
762
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:29,266
really good programs
for kids who have been labeled
dyslexic in public schools.
763
00:47:29,333 --> 00:47:33,800
I would say that,
uhm, at least, at least
50% of kids, uh,
764
00:47:33,867 --> 00:47:36,033
with learning
disabilities
drop out,
765
00:47:36,100 --> 00:47:39,133
especially in
the, uh, self
contained classroom.
766
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:43,033
So, it's always been a big
issue for me that kids who
are labeled disabled,
767
00:47:43,100 --> 00:47:46,600
whether it's learning
disabled or anything else,
really should have access
768
00:47:46,667 --> 00:47:50,300
to all of the other kids
and every learning
opportunity, too.
769
00:47:50,367 --> 00:47:54,867
Because it's, uhm, more
of a question of civil
rights in a democracy.
770
00:47:54,934 --> 00:47:58,200
Like, who's to say
you shouldn't really be
in a classroom
771
00:47:58,266 --> 00:48:03,200
with the 95% of your
non-disabled peers.
772
00:48:03,266 --> 00:48:07,767
Who benefits from labeling
kids with disabilities?
Who benefits from it?
773
00:48:07,834 --> 00:48:10,467
Often times, they're
not the ones who
benefit from it.
774
00:48:10,533 --> 00:48:12,767
Schools can
run smoother,
more efficiently.
775
00:48:12,834 --> 00:48:17,100
Teachers can be trained
in clipped programs. "You
learn this. You learn this."
776
00:48:17,166 --> 00:48:20,667
But does it really
benefit the kids who
are labeled disabled?
777
00:48:20,734 --> 00:48:25,900
Not the majority
of them in my,
uh, experience.
778
00:48:25,967 --> 00:48:29,834
So after
high school,
I, uhm,
779
00:48:29,900 --> 00:48:33,633
I tried to apply
to Community College
of Philadelphia.
780
00:48:33,700 --> 00:48:39,367
And, uhm, I took a test,
the entry-level test,
and I failed.
781
00:48:39,433 --> 00:48:44,200
And uhm, I went
to a counselor
and she said,
782
00:48:44,266 --> 00:48:46,934
"Who told you
you can be here?"
You know,
783
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:49,767
"How did
you even get
this far?"
784
00:48:49,834 --> 00:48:52,633
I mean,
she yelled and
screamed and
785
00:48:52,700 --> 00:48:55,367
that was the
worst experience
I ever had.
786
00:48:55,433 --> 00:48:57,700
Uhm, I gave up
for a while.
787
00:48:57,767 --> 00:49:02,367
I gave up for a while
and I thought that
this was my life.
788
00:49:02,433 --> 00:49:06,667
I started, uhm, cleaning.
Really. I thought that,
"Okay, this is it."
789
00:49:06,734 --> 00:49:10,200
I actually ended up
cleaning for the School
District of Philadelphia.
790
00:49:10,266 --> 00:49:16,467
Uhm, and I was in there,
I was actually cleaning for
quite some time, uhm,
791
00:49:16,533 --> 00:49:20,300
because I thought
that this is
my ability.
792
00:49:20,367 --> 00:49:22,633
This is all
that I can do.
793
00:49:22,700 --> 00:49:26,567
I still had that
drive somewhere
deep inside of me
794
00:49:26,633 --> 00:49:30,600
that I knew I could
do better, but I really
didn't know how.
795
00:49:33,133 --> 00:49:38,100
Uhm, my faith
kept me going
honestly, my faith.
796
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:42,133
My faith and
797
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:45,533
just knowing that
there had to be something
better than this.
798
00:49:49,633 --> 00:49:53,200
I couldn't be
limited to just,
799
00:49:55,233 --> 00:49:59,734
just being told
that I was dumb
and stupid
800
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:01,967
and just
embracing it.
801
00:50:05,133 --> 00:50:08,033
I knew it
was something
better for me.
802
00:50:08,100 --> 00:50:10,467
I just didn't
know how
to get it.
803
00:50:10,533 --> 00:50:15,066
Dyslexia is a special way of
seeing things. I like to call
it a different kind of mind.
804
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:22,200
What kind of mind?
In Theo's case, first rate.
805
00:50:22,266 --> 00:50:26,166
He has the brainpower.
He just has a glitch in the
way he takes in information.
806
00:50:26,233 --> 00:50:27,567
A glitch?
807
00:50:27,633 --> 00:50:30,367
Yes, he just has a
problem in the way that
he processes language.
808
00:50:30,433 --> 00:50:33,200
Does that mean that there's
nothing we can do?
Not at all.
809
00:50:33,266 --> 00:50:37,000
There are specialists who can
help dyslexics overcome
their learning problems.
810
00:50:37,066 --> 00:50:40,767
All he has to do is work with
the program they set up.
You mean if my son
811
00:50:40,834 --> 00:50:43,567
does what they want him
to he can be helped?
Yes!
812
00:50:43,633 --> 00:50:47,600
From an episode of
The Cosby Show, that's
actually I thought,
813
00:50:47,667 --> 00:50:52,100
"Wow, I struggle with
reading and writing." They
were talking about how
814
00:50:52,166 --> 00:50:59,066
Theo's challenges were with
dyslexia. And I never knew
what dyslexia was at the time.
815
00:50:59,133 --> 00:51:01,967
I really, a light
went on and
it was a relief
816
00:51:02,033 --> 00:51:04,667
because all these
years I never
knew what I had.
817
00:51:04,734 --> 00:51:10,066
I just struggled. I went
on to college or I went
back to college (LAUGHS)
818
00:51:10,133 --> 00:51:17,367
with the help of a tutor,
Judith Mazur, who's still a
tremendous support to me.
819
00:51:17,433 --> 00:51:24,400
Uhm, I worked with her
for three years prior
to going back to college.
820
00:51:24,467 --> 00:51:29,233
And I applied to,
uhm, Harcum College
and I got in.
821
00:51:29,300 --> 00:51:34,500
I got accepted
and I completed
Harcum within
822
00:51:34,567 --> 00:51:37,700
two to three years
with a 4.0
823
00:51:39,700 --> 00:51:43,200
I believe dyslexia
is a part of
who you are.
824
00:51:44,133 --> 00:51:45,633
But it's not,
825
00:51:47,100 --> 00:51:50,667
it's not who you are
as a person. It's just
what you have.
826
00:51:52,834 --> 00:51:57,767
NARRATOR: More students with
dyslexia are attending four
year liberal arts colleges
827
00:51:57,834 --> 00:52:01,300
like Evergreen
State College
in Olympia, Washington.
828
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:05,100
If a student discloses
her disability,
829
00:52:05,166 --> 00:52:09,033
she is protected by
the Americans With
Disabilities Act
830
00:52:09,100 --> 00:52:12,200
that insures
she receives the
accommodations needed
831
00:52:12,266 --> 00:52:14,633
to succeed with
college level work.
832
00:52:16,834 --> 00:52:21,433
I have been still dealing
with this anxiety about
going into a classroom
833
00:52:21,500 --> 00:52:24,867
and it takes, it does
take a lot, it takes
a lot of energy
834
00:52:24,934 --> 00:52:29,700
and people don't realize
how that wears down
on you after awhile.
835
00:52:29,767 --> 00:52:33,667
And kind of how easy
it is to just give up and
fall through the cracks.
836
00:52:33,734 --> 00:52:35,934
It's actually
taken a while for
837
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:38,533
me to be able to
talk to my housemates
838
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:42,166
and have them
not go, "Why are
you here?" Like,
839
00:52:42,233 --> 00:52:44,333
but to really
talk to them about
840
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:47,800
the struggles
that I'm facing.
Because for,
841
00:52:47,867 --> 00:52:53,533
I think for them
in their minds, uhm,
842
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:59,767
you have this limitation.
(MIMICS HOUSEMATES)
"Why, why are you here?"
843
00:53:02,767 --> 00:53:07,000
What I really want to do
is definitely give you
this accommodation letter
844
00:53:07,066 --> 00:53:11,033
and make sure you understand
everything that's on it.
Okay.
845
00:53:11,100 --> 00:53:13,567
Alright. Good. That's
a good place
to start. Okay.
846
00:53:13,633 --> 00:53:17,266
This is kind of
always a balancing
act for me, uhm,
847
00:53:17,333 --> 00:53:21,567
whether or not,
how much I want
to disclose.
848
00:53:21,633 --> 00:53:26,767
One of the reasons why we
try at least teach in two or
three different modalities
849
00:53:26,834 --> 00:53:30,333
because we have lots of
people with different
learning styles in the class.
850
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:35,700
We have a young man
who's slightly autistic
and has asperg.
851
00:53:35,767 --> 00:53:37,533
(STUTTERING)
Asperger's?
852
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:39,467
Say it again.
Asperger's
Asperger's.
853
00:53:39,533 --> 00:53:43,533
And then we have,
uhm, two people
with dyslexia
854
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:49,367
(STUTTERING) and uh,
one person with anxiety,
extreme anxiety.
855
00:53:49,433 --> 00:53:52,900
So, I've got to watch got
to watch her rhythm and
how much she can take.
856
00:53:52,967 --> 00:53:56,133
And so that's
why we try to
focus the learning
857
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:58,567
so not only
the instruction
858
00:53:58,633 --> 00:54:02,633
deals with different
learning styles and
different patterns
859
00:54:02,700 --> 00:54:04,300
but also
the presentation.
860
00:54:04,367 --> 00:54:08,133
I taught, uh, mime
one time to a woman
who was blind.
861
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:13,333
And that was such a great
experience for me because
it really taught me about
862
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:18,834
how many of my, uh, references
were visual and how much
I used the blackboard.
863
00:54:18,900 --> 00:54:22,033
So, I had to switch
everything around to
make sure that she,
864
00:54:22,100 --> 00:54:23,667
you know,
could, uhm,
865
00:54:23,734 --> 00:54:26,166
that she could
understand the
concepts and stuff.
866
00:54:26,233 --> 00:54:29,800
And do a lot of, you
know, tactile stuff using
your hands and things.
867
00:54:29,867 --> 00:54:35,633
So yeah, the major
thing is for you
to achieve success.
868
00:54:35,700 --> 00:54:40,000
So, however, you know,
we just say where
the shore is
869
00:54:40,066 --> 00:54:43,233
and then you can
choose whether you
want to breast stroke
870
00:54:43,300 --> 00:54:46,633
or whether you want to
crawl or whether you want
to do it under water.
871
00:54:46,700 --> 00:54:49,633
Okay, so uhm,
for me visual
processing is
872
00:54:49,700 --> 00:54:52,033
probably
the best, uhm,
Mm-hmm. Mm-Hmm.
873
00:54:52,100 --> 00:54:57,100
it's helpful
for me to look
back at notes.
874
00:54:57,166 --> 00:55:00,734
But I don't take notes
as fast as I would like to.
Okay.
875
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:04,300
I think that, what
might be interesting
to try with you,
876
00:55:04,367 --> 00:55:08,900
which hasn't worked with other
professors, but I think it
might work is just, uhm,
877
00:55:08,967 --> 00:55:14,100
maybe after class coming up
and expanding on some of the
things I've jotted down.
878
00:55:14,166 --> 00:55:15,734
Perfect.
879
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:17,834
'Cause usually
something
resonates with me
880
00:55:17,900 --> 00:55:21,300
and I want to keep
talking about it.
Okay.
881
00:55:21,367 --> 00:55:23,934
I don't really
understand how
other people
882
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:25,567
get through.
883
00:55:25,633 --> 00:55:28,934
I think some
people kind of
hide it or, uhm,
884
00:55:30,467 --> 00:55:32,333
I have no idea
'cause this is how
885
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:34,834
I've learned that
886
00:55:35,867 --> 00:55:39,000
I get what
I need to
get through.
887
00:55:39,066 --> 00:55:41,900
Uhm, by having
these types
of meetings
888
00:55:41,967 --> 00:55:46,233
and we are supposed
to have these
types of meetings
889
00:55:46,300 --> 00:55:51,233
in order to legally
have the school provide
these services.
890
00:55:51,300 --> 00:55:55,600
But I've been told
by some professors who
have been here for years
891
00:55:55,667 --> 00:56:00,000
that sometimes I'm the
first student who's ever
done that with them.
892
00:56:00,066 --> 00:56:03,133
Uhm, and
I'm not sure
why that is.
893
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:05,333
That scares me
a little bit.
894
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:08,734
Uhm, but
also that
895
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:13,333
dyslexia is
associated with
all the other
896
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:17,300
disabilities and
all of a sudden
once you say "dyslexia,"
897
00:56:17,367 --> 00:56:19,400
all of a sudden
what pops into
their head
898
00:56:19,467 --> 00:56:23,567
is all the other
students who are having
issues in the class.
899
00:56:23,633 --> 00:56:26,200
And so there isn't
an understanding
900
00:56:26,266 --> 00:56:29,066
by professors
on what that
actually means.
901
00:56:39,567 --> 00:56:43,834
The U.S. government
continues to give huge tax
breaks and pay outs
902
00:56:43,900 --> 00:56:46,667
to the oil, gas,
and coal industries.
903
00:56:46,734 --> 00:56:51,867
Meanwhile, the fledgling
solar and wind industries
are left to beg and plead
904
00:56:51,934 --> 00:56:56,367
just to get
extensions of their
modest tax credits.
905
00:56:56,433 --> 00:57:00,367
One of the things
that I've just kind of
realized is that
906
00:57:00,433 --> 00:57:01,567
I...
907
00:57:03,767 --> 00:57:07,734
like, not
not being able
to read as
908
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:11,266
at a young age
made it so
that, uhm,
909
00:57:12,266 --> 00:57:14,266
I don't have
a lot of the
910
00:57:14,333 --> 00:57:19,100
strategies that other
people do. Uhm,
and I don't have,
911
00:57:19,166 --> 00:57:21,667
even with
assistive
technology,
912
00:57:21,734 --> 00:57:23,200
I don't,
913
00:57:23,266 --> 00:57:25,133
I haven't
really developed
914
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:28,133
the skills
of comprehension,
915
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:31,166
comprehensive
reading, uhm,
916
00:57:33,066 --> 00:57:36,467
and so I feel like
I'm constantly kinda
playing catch up with that.
917
00:57:36,533 --> 00:57:39,800
I can feel
that, uhm,
918
00:57:39,867 --> 00:57:44,467
your brain has to think
in a completely different way
when you're reading text.
919
00:57:44,533 --> 00:57:46,000
And...
920
00:57:46,066 --> 00:57:48,967
my brain hasn't
completely adapted
to it yet.
921
00:57:49,033 --> 00:57:52,233
From a battery
powered radio,
they heard
922
00:57:52,300 --> 00:57:55,500
that the media
were talking about
the encampments.
923
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:01,233
If this is the
first friend you
make at college,
924
00:58:04,533 --> 00:58:09,200
(LAUGHINGLY) let's just say
it's not a very welcoming
sort of environment.
925
00:58:09,266 --> 00:58:10,734
...encampments.
926
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:13,200
Officials were
being asked what
they were going to do
927
00:58:13,266 --> 00:58:16,467
with all the families
living along
the freeway.
928
00:58:16,533 --> 00:58:19,033
(INDISTINCT CHATTERING)
929
00:58:19,100 --> 00:58:21,633
PHRED: There are
so many times where
930
00:58:21,700 --> 00:58:24,567
I never thought
I'd make it.
931
00:58:24,633 --> 00:58:27,300
If I could
project myself
back in time
932
00:58:27,367 --> 00:58:29,767
and tell my
kindergarten self
933
00:58:29,834 --> 00:58:31,900
you're gonna
be here.
934
00:58:31,967 --> 00:58:34,433
There's no way
I would have
believed it.
935
00:58:36,467 --> 00:58:41,433
For a long time I'm thinking,
like, "This is a privilege
have to work for."
936
00:58:41,500 --> 00:58:44,533
That this is
a privilege I will
never have innately
937
00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:46,934
but I kind of
have to fake it
to make it.
938
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:49,633
But really,
I feel like
939
00:58:49,700 --> 00:58:51,967
at this point
I need to
believe that
940
00:58:52,033 --> 00:58:54,233
I have just
as much right
941
00:58:54,300 --> 00:58:56,834
to be here
as anyone else.
942
00:59:01,300 --> 00:59:04,066
When I've tried
to express to
people that books
943
00:59:04,133 --> 00:59:07,433
cornered me
in the form that
they were in,
944
00:59:07,500 --> 00:59:09,233
they didn't
want to hear it.
945
00:59:09,300 --> 00:59:12,700
They didn't want
to hear I had
a hard time reading.
946
00:59:12,767 --> 00:59:17,667
"Well, not my son," or,
"Well, well, you
struggle a little bit."
947
00:59:17,734 --> 00:59:20,133
"But really,
if you focus,
948
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:22,867
if you really
bear down, you can
probably do it."
949
00:59:22,934 --> 00:59:25,367
Well, someone
in a wheelchair
950
00:59:25,433 --> 00:59:29,767
can get up stairs.
I've seen them
do it at protests.
951
00:59:29,834 --> 00:59:32,000
My friend
David Carmel,
he could do it.
952
00:59:32,066 --> 00:59:34,867
Throw himself
on the stairs,
and with his elbows
953
00:59:34,934 --> 00:59:39,533
pull himself up
one by one. Right?
954
00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:43,700
But that's not,
in our colloquial sense,
"getting up stairs."
955
00:59:43,767 --> 00:59:46,533
Right? He's
proving that they
need a ramp.
956
00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:49,667
Overcoming dyslexia is
a catch phrase that
957
00:59:49,734 --> 00:59:55,166
belies an interest
in fixing people.
958
00:59:56,567 --> 00:59:58,767
I don't need
to be fixed
959
00:59:58,834 --> 01:00:00,667
you know?
And by the
960
01:00:00,734 --> 01:00:04,667
external measures, I've
done it, I've succeeded.
I have a JD/MBA from Stanford.
961
01:00:04,734 --> 01:00:08,600
I have a job in Silicon
Valley. I have a happy life.
I have a wonderful wife.
962
01:00:08,667 --> 01:00:12,567
I have a home. I have
everything everyone's supposed
to get in the American Dream.
963
01:00:12,633 --> 01:00:14,900
Do I need
to overcome?
964
01:00:14,967 --> 01:00:15,934
No.
965
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:18,433
I read
terribly.
966
01:00:18,500 --> 01:00:21,033
I spell
abysmally.
967
01:00:21,100 --> 01:00:24,066
I am in
the bottom 1%
968
01:00:24,133 --> 01:00:27,300
in my ability to
identify a letter when
you show it to me.
969
01:00:27,367 --> 01:00:30,266
Off the charts.
I have MRI's
that show
970
01:00:30,333 --> 01:00:32,900
zero activity
in my temporal
parietal lobe.
971
01:00:32,967 --> 01:00:35,066
Not zero, but
very, very,
very, very little
972
01:00:35,133 --> 01:00:39,400
which is where most
people have, like,
a Christmas tree of activity.
973
01:00:39,467 --> 01:00:41,633
The act
of reading
the word
974
01:00:41,700 --> 01:00:43,834
is like taking me
back in front
of the stairs
975
01:00:43,900 --> 01:00:47,100
and having me go up
them on my elbows
every time. At some point,
976
01:00:47,166 --> 01:00:48,767
you need to
let go of that,
977
01:00:48,834 --> 01:00:52,900
and move forward
because the interesting
part about dyslexia
978
01:00:53,834 --> 01:00:55,133
is the future.
979
01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:58,100
It's not what
happened. It's
what's gonna happen.
980
01:00:58,166 --> 01:00:59,500
Moving forward,
981
01:00:59,567 --> 01:01:02,500
I've gotten
accommodations. Now,
982
01:01:02,567 --> 01:01:06,867
I can take a device and take
a photograph of something
and have it read to me.
983
01:01:06,934 --> 01:01:11,200
I can, uh,
scan it with
a flatbed scanner
984
01:01:11,266 --> 01:01:14,867
and turn it into
speech so that
I can hear it.
985
01:01:14,934 --> 01:01:16,600
I used to
986
01:01:16,667 --> 01:01:20,567
fax my term papers home to
my mother and have her read
them to me over the phone.
987
01:01:20,633 --> 01:01:23,567
Right? Now I have
a computer do it.
988
01:01:23,633 --> 01:01:26,066
The computers
are doubling
989
01:01:26,133 --> 01:01:29,934
in their capability
every two years,
every 18 months.
990
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:33,667
So I knew that soon
I'd be able to put it
all together in one box.
991
01:01:33,734 --> 01:01:36,667
And I started
thinking about
how to design that.
992
01:01:36,734 --> 01:01:38,900
Uh, and what
I came up
with was
993
01:01:40,266 --> 01:01:42,066
take a picture...
994
01:01:43,433 --> 01:01:45,500
...and hear it.
995
01:01:45,567 --> 01:01:47,533
Point. Shoot. Listen.
996
01:01:50,667 --> 01:01:53,200
Uh, now I turn on
the camera
997
01:01:54,300 --> 01:01:56,567
and I take
a picture,
like so.
998
01:02:00,467 --> 01:02:02,100
Long before that
999
01:02:02,166 --> 01:02:04,800
as many
efforts
always have,
1000
01:02:04,867 --> 01:02:08,500
they go stand inside
among the row
of narrow chairs,
1001
01:02:08,567 --> 01:02:12,500
each one turned to face
the street. She looks for
their waiter but can't...
1002
01:02:14,100 --> 01:02:16,266
That's it
reading, and so
1003
01:02:16,333 --> 01:02:17,600
That waiter.
1004
01:02:17,667 --> 01:02:19,333
Waiter.
1005
01:02:19,400 --> 01:02:21,800
I probably
couldn't spell
that word.
1006
01:02:21,867 --> 01:02:26,800
"w-a-i-t-e-r."
1007
01:02:26,867 --> 01:02:29,800
We just took that text
off the page and
are able to read it.
1008
01:02:29,867 --> 01:02:32,700
And that gives me
access to the text.
It's that simple.
1009
01:02:32,767 --> 01:02:35,400
I have access.
Now,
1010
01:02:35,467 --> 01:02:37,500
I believe that
this technology
1011
01:02:37,567 --> 01:02:40,233
is a ramp
into a book.
1012
01:02:40,300 --> 01:02:43,066
And this is one
embodiment of it.
1013
01:02:43,133 --> 01:02:46,200
There are many others
that will be out
there in the future.
1014
01:02:46,266 --> 01:02:47,767
And I'm
committed
1015
01:02:47,834 --> 01:02:50,200
to making it
available to more
and more people
1016
01:02:50,266 --> 01:02:52,734
because if you
have this access,
1017
01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:54,633
then you
have access
to that text,
1018
01:02:54,700 --> 01:02:57,533
and ultimately
you have access
to hope
1019
01:02:57,600 --> 01:02:59,000
and self-respect.
1020
01:03:33,100 --> 01:03:37,033
You know we're a foundation
that focuses on the formation
of new businesses.
1021
01:03:37,100 --> 01:03:40,066
The last thing on earth
a foundation that deals
with businesses
1022
01:03:40,133 --> 01:03:44,333
would ever focus on
is the question
of dyslexics?
1023
01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:46,900
And the connection
of these
1024
01:03:46,967 --> 01:03:50,000
traits in
individual
human beings
1025
01:03:50,066 --> 01:03:52,266
with business
formation.
1026
01:03:52,333 --> 01:03:54,633
Success.
Dyslexia.
1027
01:03:54,700 --> 01:03:58,400
Here are four or five people
who created huge, critically
important companies
1028
01:03:58,467 --> 01:04:01,633
to the United States
and to the world.
1029
01:04:01,700 --> 01:04:04,367
Dyslexic?
How can
this be?
1030
01:04:06,100 --> 01:04:07,533
The real
issue is
1031
01:04:07,600 --> 01:04:09,300
who has
the talents
1032
01:04:09,367 --> 01:04:12,000
to put together
huge, new companies
1033
01:04:12,066 --> 01:04:14,300
and create
the new?
1034
01:04:14,367 --> 01:04:16,333
So one of
the questions was,
1035
01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:18,734
"Are these
people more
visionary?"
1036
01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:20,767
"Can they
see things
differently?"
1037
01:04:22,166 --> 01:04:24,567
They come to
a realization that
1038
01:04:24,633 --> 01:04:27,266
that society keeps
pronouncing the
number of skill sets
1039
01:04:27,333 --> 01:04:30,667
that are necessary
for success, they
don't seem to have.
1040
01:04:30,734 --> 01:04:32,633
And they go out
and build
1041
01:04:32,700 --> 01:04:35,100
the environment
in which they
will succeed.
1042
01:04:35,166 --> 01:04:38,867
That's, sort of,
my working hypothesis
to explain
1043
01:04:38,934 --> 01:04:43,567
why all these entrepreneurs
exist who have
traits of dyslexia.
1044
01:04:45,033 --> 01:04:47,233
And lots of those
people didn't
go to college.
1045
01:04:47,300 --> 01:04:51,400
I am amazed again
and again even in
technical businesses
1046
01:04:51,467 --> 01:04:53,100
where people see
1047
01:04:53,166 --> 01:04:55,433
a business
they can start.
And you know,
1048
01:04:55,500 --> 01:04:58,867
that may be startling
but if you think
about it,
1049
01:04:58,934 --> 01:05:02,133
you don't have to have
a degree to become
an entrepreneur.
1050
01:05:02,200 --> 01:05:05,400
And it's these people
who are the resistors,
the outsiders.
1051
01:05:06,734 --> 01:05:09,600
Who make
inordinate
contributions
1052
01:05:09,667 --> 01:05:11,367
that benefit
humankind.
1053
01:05:11,433 --> 01:05:13,233
They expand
human welfare.
1054
01:05:13,300 --> 01:05:15,800
Entrepreneurs
expand human
welfare.
1055
01:05:15,867 --> 01:05:18,567
And to the extent
we have more dyslexics
doing this,
1056
01:05:18,633 --> 01:05:22,600
you might say that
dyslexics have
a particular license
1057
01:05:22,667 --> 01:05:26,100
on the capacity
to expand
human welfare.
1058
01:05:26,166 --> 01:05:27,800
I think when
you start,
1059
01:05:27,867 --> 01:05:32,066
you start,
by taking, uh,
really big risks.
1060
01:05:32,133 --> 01:05:35,300
And you've got
nothing to lose,
oftentimes.
1061
01:05:35,367 --> 01:05:38,867
In my case I had nothing
to lose. I had no money
so you just went for it.
1062
01:05:38,934 --> 01:05:40,800
Whatever
you could
possibly do,
1063
01:05:40,867 --> 01:05:44,700
and if you made a dollar
and lost it the next day,
no one's worrying about it.
1064
01:05:44,767 --> 01:05:46,867
I still think
I take risks
1065
01:05:46,934 --> 01:05:50,233
but they have to be
far more calculated. There's
far more responsibility.
1066
01:05:50,300 --> 01:05:53,934
Say I'll put a million
dollars aside to
work on a project
1067
01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:56,000
and if we lose it,
we lose it.
1068
01:05:56,066 --> 01:06:00,166
And believe me
I've done it.
(STUTTERING) I've
1069
01:06:00,233 --> 01:06:02,867
fortunately made
more than
I've lost
1070
01:06:02,934 --> 01:06:06,533
and therefore
managed to stay
above water here.
1071
01:06:06,600 --> 01:06:11,600
Uh, but, uh, I've lost
millions, and millions
and millions of dollars.
1072
01:06:11,667 --> 01:06:15,800
So I was 24 years old,
23 years old, when
I first saw a pellet stove
1073
01:06:15,867 --> 01:06:19,333
and I went to this stove
shop and said, "Geez this
is an amazing thing.
1074
01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:23,500
I've never seen anything
like this. And they have these
pellets in there and I, uhm...
1075
01:06:23,567 --> 01:06:26,066
He said, "So, are
you interested in
buying a stove?"
1076
01:06:26,133 --> 01:06:30,233
And I said, "Yeah, I kinda am.
It's kind of new. Where do all
these pellets come from?"
1077
01:06:30,300 --> 01:06:34,266
And he says, "Well, Montana."
And I said, "Well that seems
a little crazy. Montana."
1078
01:06:34,333 --> 01:06:37,000
I don't buy my
firewood from Montana,
my split firewood,
1079
01:06:37,066 --> 01:06:40,033
and everybody around me
would never buy
firewood from Montana.
1080
01:06:40,100 --> 01:06:41,767
"Why would this
come from there?"
1081
01:06:41,834 --> 01:06:44,100
He said, "It's
the only place
that makes them."
1082
01:06:44,166 --> 01:06:47,033
And I said, (STUTTERING)
"Why doesn't anybody
make it here?
1083
01:06:47,100 --> 01:06:49,767
And he goes, "I don't
know. Why don't you
make it here?"
1084
01:06:49,834 --> 01:06:52,867
STEVE: It's
a pretty good
sized facility.
1085
01:06:52,934 --> 01:06:56,000
This is one of
the larger ones
in the country.
1086
01:06:57,734 --> 01:07:01,667
There's about
five weeks of wood
behind us here,
1087
01:07:01,734 --> 01:07:05,233
and this pile, by the way,
extends much longer
than it is wide.
1088
01:07:05,300 --> 01:07:09,934
And it comprised
about 25, 20
1089
01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:13,066
20, about 20
tractor-trailer
loads a day of wood.
1090
01:07:13,133 --> 01:07:15,767
And here's one
coming in right now.
1091
01:07:20,200 --> 01:07:23,000
STEVE: Each of these
plants is off setting
approximately,
1092
01:07:23,066 --> 01:07:26,367
producing something
around a thousand, twelve
hundred gallons of oil
1093
01:07:26,433 --> 01:07:29,567
equivalent of
energy per hour.
1094
01:07:29,633 --> 01:07:33,800
Somewhere in the eight,
nine, ten, eleven million
gallons a year of oil
1095
01:07:33,867 --> 01:07:38,100
that we're
displacing with
these facilities.
1096
01:07:38,166 --> 01:07:42,867
My ultimate goal is to have
dozens and dozens and
dozens of these facilities.
1097
01:07:45,667 --> 01:07:51,400
I think technically it was
in the 2nd grade that I was
labeled with dyslexia.
1098
01:07:51,467 --> 01:07:55,100
I knew at an
incredibly young age
that I had, uhm,
1099
01:07:55,166 --> 01:07:59,133
difficulties achieving
things in school that
everybody else was achieving
1100
01:07:59,200 --> 01:08:01,500
and I was expected
to achieve.
1101
01:08:01,567 --> 01:08:04,533
And, of course,
the curriculum
I was given,
1102
01:08:04,600 --> 01:08:07,166
reading, was one of
my challenges.
Still is.
1103
01:08:07,233 --> 01:08:10,734
And probably a
combination of not being
very good at it and also
1104
01:08:10,800 --> 01:08:17,166
having so many awful
memories of (STAMMERING)
those days in school,
1105
01:08:17,233 --> 01:08:20,367
uhm, you know,
I really don't
read at all.
1106
01:08:20,433 --> 01:08:23,900
I've read
two books
in my life.
1107
01:08:23,967 --> 01:08:29,367
So, reading was brutal and
I spent years and years
and years having people,
1108
01:08:29,433 --> 01:08:33,000
tutors, trying to get
me to read. And it was
right around,
1109
01:08:33,066 --> 01:08:36,667
it's probably around 8th
grade is where I first
actually learned how to read.
1110
01:08:36,734 --> 01:08:39,867
I faked it. I got through
school really not
being able to read.
1111
01:08:39,934 --> 01:08:43,500
Oh! And the high school
machine shop, that was the
one thing in high school
1112
01:08:43,567 --> 01:08:45,400
I could go in and
just eat alive.
1113
01:08:45,467 --> 01:08:48,066
Uhm, and the teacher
just loved it.
I mean that was
1114
01:08:48,133 --> 01:08:51,200
the only pat on
the back that I got that
I knew wasn't sympathy.
1115
01:08:51,266 --> 01:08:56,934
And, uhm, Pasanka,
was his name.
And he...
1116
01:08:57,000 --> 01:09:00,400
...he would stay
after school and
just let me play.
1117
01:09:00,467 --> 01:09:04,367
And, uhm,
that's where
I learned.
1118
01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:10,367
And all the other
classes you could
take away.
1119
01:09:10,433 --> 01:09:12,500
(WHISPERING)
Just not
that one.
1120
01:09:12,567 --> 01:09:13,734
Sorry.
1121
01:09:16,867 --> 01:09:19,900
(CRYING)
1122
01:09:21,367 --> 01:09:23,867
In school,
1123
01:09:24,900 --> 01:09:26,900
it was amazing
to sit in...
1124
01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:33,166
You know,
I really suffered
through school.
1125
01:09:33,233 --> 01:09:37,867
And I finally got
to high school and
they had these shops,
1126
01:09:37,934 --> 01:09:41,700
you know,
really amazing
places.
1127
01:09:41,767 --> 01:09:43,767
And these teachers
really liked
what I did.
1128
01:09:43,834 --> 01:09:46,800
INTERVIEWER: What
were you making?
Oh, anything, everything.
1129
01:09:46,867 --> 01:09:49,967
I mean, there were
parts and pieces
of machines,
1130
01:09:50,033 --> 01:09:52,533
and I liked bicycles
so I was creating
new parts.
1131
01:09:52,600 --> 01:09:56,266
I couldn't afford the really
fancy bicycle parts,
so I would copy them
1132
01:09:56,333 --> 01:09:58,934
and create
them in the
machine shop.
1133
01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:00,834
And then
the wood shop
next door,
1134
01:10:00,900 --> 01:10:03,467
and I'd build molds
and come up with
ideas and models
1135
01:10:03,533 --> 01:10:06,233
and I'd go over
to the metal shop
1136
01:10:06,300 --> 01:10:08,567
and they had
this auto shop.
1137
01:10:08,633 --> 01:10:12,300
I would work hours
and hours in that
shop at night.
1138
01:10:12,367 --> 01:10:16,734
Wasn't allowed to be in there.
I mean, they even tape
the damn thing off and uhm,
1139
01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:19,333
uh, he would turn on
the power and
let me go.
1140
01:10:21,500 --> 01:10:23,066
So.
1141
01:10:23,133 --> 01:10:24,934
But systematically
1142
01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:27,400
the school
shut down
all the shops.
1143
01:10:28,567 --> 01:10:31,066
(VOICE CRACKING)
And it was
the last blow.
1144
01:10:31,133 --> 01:10:33,400
(SNIFFS)
1145
01:10:33,467 --> 01:10:37,700
INTERVIEWER: So, it was during
your time, your time
in high school they closed it?
1146
01:10:37,767 --> 01:10:39,367
(WHISPERING)
Yeah.
1147
01:10:40,500 --> 01:10:42,467
(SNIFFS)
1148
01:10:42,533 --> 01:10:44,767
(VOICE CRACKING)
It was deplorable.
1149
01:10:46,233 --> 01:10:48,166
And, uh,
ultimately,
1150
01:10:48,233 --> 01:10:53,100
obviously I got out
of high school, made
that attempt at college.
1151
01:10:53,166 --> 01:10:58,100
Uh, that failed and then
I heard that this machine
shop was up for sale.
1152
01:10:58,166 --> 01:11:01,500
So, they were
gonna auction
everything off
1153
01:11:01,567 --> 01:11:05,233
and, uh, I was the first one
in line and that same
Joe Pasanka was there to
1154
01:11:05,300 --> 01:11:09,500
help them figure out what was
worth what and sell it and he
was in charge of selling it.
1155
01:11:09,567 --> 01:11:12,066
I very carefully
took the two
thousand dollars
1156
01:11:12,133 --> 01:11:15,266
and adjusted what I felt
the values were on
everything to make sure
1157
01:11:15,333 --> 01:11:18,567
it spread over evenly,
and I said, "Jesus, this
isn't enough money.
1158
01:11:18,633 --> 01:11:22,100
There's nowhere near
enough money and this
isn't a fair price."
1159
01:11:22,166 --> 01:11:23,333
And
1160
01:11:23,400 --> 01:11:26,767
then he
told me
that, uh,
1161
01:11:26,834 --> 01:11:30,133
he said the value
of something is what
someone's willing to pay,
1162
01:11:30,200 --> 01:11:34,266
and you're the only one here.
So you're paying exactly
what it's worth.
1163
01:11:34,333 --> 01:11:37,066
And, uhm,
I'll never forget
that term.
1164
01:11:37,133 --> 01:11:39,200
So, I uh,
I bought it
1165
01:11:39,266 --> 01:11:42,633
and loaded up
all the machinery
and took it home.
1166
01:11:42,700 --> 01:11:48,266
And uhm, I loaded it
in my basement and
reconfigured this whole thing.
1167
01:11:48,333 --> 01:11:50,767
I didn't even have
enough electricity
in my house,
1168
01:11:50,834 --> 01:11:53,000
so I had to
re-jigger the
electricity outside
1169
01:11:53,066 --> 01:11:57,200
and set up all these electric
transformers and things in
order to power all this stuff.
1170
01:11:57,266 --> 01:12:00,300
I needed three phase
power and managed to
get it all going.
1171
01:12:00,367 --> 01:12:05,967
And, uhm, and in that
basement, I started
creating this company.
1172
01:12:06,033 --> 01:12:08,100
And, uh, so out
of my house,
1173
01:12:08,166 --> 01:12:11,567
with that high school
machine shop, built
this entire factory.
1174
01:12:11,633 --> 01:12:13,500
I mean,
literally stuff
from the dump.
1175
01:12:13,567 --> 01:12:16,066
I went to
rubbish heaps
and piles, and
1176
01:12:16,133 --> 01:12:18,934
and, 'cause I just
didn't want to spend
money on anything.
1177
01:12:19,000 --> 01:12:20,967
And we
were making
pellets there.
1178
01:12:21,033 --> 01:12:22,600
It did work.
1179
01:12:33,767 --> 01:12:36,033
You asked,
you know,
is it a gift?
1180
01:12:36,100 --> 01:12:40,033
Absolutely. I can
assure you. You
couldn't offer me
1181
01:12:40,100 --> 01:12:43,467
a hundred million
dollars right now
to take away my dyslexia,
1182
01:12:43,533 --> 01:12:47,133
if that's what you
want to call it, and put
me into normal learning.
1183
01:12:47,200 --> 01:12:49,834
There's no amount
of money you could
give me right now,
1184
01:12:49,900 --> 01:12:52,934
and I would
have paid you
anything in school
1185
01:12:53,000 --> 01:12:55,300
to make it
go away.
1186
01:12:55,367 --> 01:12:58,800
So, it went
from a huge
burden
1187
01:12:58,867 --> 01:13:00,333
and this
terrible
disease
1188
01:13:00,400 --> 01:13:04,567
to a gift, that,
that I am very
confident is why
1189
01:13:04,633 --> 01:13:09,467
I'm as successful as
I am and hope to be far,
far, far more successful.
1190
01:13:12,834 --> 01:13:16,834
And so for me,
the learning disability,
I felt locked in there.
1191
01:13:16,900 --> 01:13:20,333
And I had to
get out. And
I found a way.
1192
01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:25,166
And anybody else with
a learning disability can do
exactly the same thing.
1193
01:13:25,233 --> 01:13:31,033
The mind is huge. The mind is
incredible and there's not
just one way that it works.
1194
01:13:31,100 --> 01:13:33,900
So what works
for you, and
you know it.
1195
01:13:33,967 --> 01:13:36,800
You can feel it
in your gut.
1196
01:13:37,734 --> 01:13:40,233
When I read,
1197
01:13:40,300 --> 01:13:42,600
I'm not reading
necessarily
to comprehend.
1198
01:13:42,667 --> 01:13:47,200
But I'm photographing
and memorizing
everything that I see.
1199
01:13:47,266 --> 01:13:49,900
And I can
go back and
I can tell you
1200
01:13:49,967 --> 01:13:51,667
where that is,
what number it is.
1201
01:13:51,734 --> 01:13:57,100
Just like I can still
remember Roberta Walker's
number in Hinkley 760...
1202
01:13:57,166 --> 01:13:59,734
and I can place
that number on
the keypad
1203
01:13:59,800 --> 01:14:01,533
and put it
into my brain.
1204
01:14:01,600 --> 01:14:04,467
And I remember things
that way and it
actually became
1205
01:14:04,533 --> 01:14:09,867
my gift, in my way,
to be successful
in my career.
1206
01:14:09,934 --> 01:14:15,367
Even being a paralegal,
secretary, assistant, anything
that I was doing work wise,
1207
01:14:15,433 --> 01:14:18,233
if someone said,
"Well, you wouldn't
know how to do that."
1208
01:14:18,300 --> 01:14:21,233
Because maybe you'll pick up
on my dyslexia
1209
01:14:21,300 --> 01:14:24,633
or you'll ask me to read
and I'm not comprehending
it right. Therefore,
1210
01:14:24,700 --> 01:14:28,300
they'll see something and
think she doesn't know what
she's doing. Yes, I do.
1211
01:14:28,367 --> 01:14:31,033
The minute I've been
given that challenge,
you will see.
1212
01:14:31,100 --> 01:14:34,233
And I think that
it's something that,
I'm very driven still,
1213
01:14:34,300 --> 01:14:39,100
uhm, when public health
and safety is put in
such harm's way
1214
01:14:39,166 --> 01:14:43,200
with so little disregard
in making it right.
I can't help myself
1215
01:14:43,266 --> 01:14:49,133
but to come forward and
have to really be a voice
for those people.
1216
01:14:49,200 --> 01:14:55,033
So, uhm, no again,
I am not afraid
of dyslexia at all,
1217
01:14:55,100 --> 01:14:56,934
nor should
anybody else be.
1218
01:14:57,000 --> 01:14:59,734
I said in
the beginning and
I'll tell you again,
1219
01:14:59,800 --> 01:15:01,133
in hindsight,
1220
01:15:01,200 --> 01:15:03,300
it was
my gift.
1221
01:15:05,734 --> 01:15:09,600
I wouldn't be
who I am if I didn't
have dyslexia.
1222
01:15:09,667 --> 01:15:12,934
And it opened
a whole lotta
doors for me.
1223
01:15:13,000 --> 01:15:16,500
It challenged me.
It got me outside
of that box.
1224
01:15:16,567 --> 01:15:20,066
I didn't want to
be labeled. It taught
me to stand up
1225
01:15:20,133 --> 01:15:24,767
and use my voice
and be proud of
who I am, and I do.
1226
01:15:24,834 --> 01:15:28,734
If you look at history,
if you look at the people
you've interviewed
1227
01:15:28,800 --> 01:15:31,867
and the studies
they've done, um,
1228
01:15:31,934 --> 01:15:33,767
I think it's
a great gift.
1229
01:15:33,834 --> 01:15:38,133
I think it's a wonderful
form of intelligence.
I really, really do.
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