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Next to this quarry,
a group called The Quarrymen...
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performed at the Village Fete.
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There are no plaques or signposts,
but at the side of this quarry...
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is one of the most significant sites
in the whole history of rock 'n' roll.
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Because this, in this ground here...
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is where Paul McCartneyfirst saw John Lennon...
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perform with The Quarrymen,where they first got together.
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From here, the whole history
of rock 'n' roll was to change...
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and Liverpool was
to become the rocking city...
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create a type of rock 'n' roll
and take it right back...
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to the home of rock 'n' roll in America.
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And here, at St. Peter's Village Hall...
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just a short walk away
from the Village Fete...
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where The Quarrymen played...
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about 20 yards from the gravestone
of a certain Eleanor Rigby.
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And in this very room,
rock 'n' roll was redefined...
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when Paul sat down to chat with John...
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and John started playing some chords
on his guitar...
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and Paul started writing out
some lyrics for him...
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and the two of them began to chat...
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realized that they had a closenessbetween them almost straightaway.
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As a result...
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the huge explosion,
exciting new rock 'n' roll...
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hit the world in the '60s
and it was all born in this very room.
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The two of them got together, met,
were kindred spirits...
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and soon after, one of John's friends
went up to Paul and said:
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"John wants you to join the group."
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In the Liverpool homewhere he lived with his aunt and uncle...
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John Lennon dreamed of becominga rock star like Elvis Presley.
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Just down the road lived Paul McCartney...
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whose father once playedin a ragtime band.
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George Harrison, who lived in this house...
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and rode the bus to schoolevery day with Paul...
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idolized guitarist Duane Eddy.
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Growing up near the city's docks,Ringo Starr played drums...
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with Liverpool's biggest rock band,The Hurricanes...
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until he met The Beatlesin Hamburg, Germany.
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None of them had been abroad before...
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and suddenly were in this neon-lit street...
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with all sorts of sex shops...
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and gangsters on the door.
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They were just boggle-eyed.
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They served their musical apprenticeshipin Hamburg.
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They worked sometimesfrom 6:00 at night...
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till 3:00 in the morning,and they exploded onstage.
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The bouncers thought,'"Oh, my God, there's a fight. '"
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It wasn't.It was the explosion of The Beatles.
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Then we went back to Liverpool
and got quite a few bookings.
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They thought we were German.
They billed us from Hamburg.
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And they all said,
"You speak good English."
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Brian suggested that
we just wore ordinary suits.
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So we just got what we thought
looked like good suits...
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and just got rid of the other gear.
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Bands like ourselves, The Beatles,
the Big Three, and The Searchers...
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and everyone, we all tried to be unique
and play our own type of music...
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what we liked,
and tried to get our own sound.
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And because we all were resident
at the Cavern Club...
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that was the place
to come and see all the bands.
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It wasn't just the music
when you went to see The Beatles.
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You knew you were going
to come out on an absolute high.
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This is Mathew Street. This is where
the Cavern Club was a really...
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raving place in the '60s.
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It started off as a trad jazz club...
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and then The Swinging Blue Jeans
made the place very popular...
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with the Blue Jeans' night out.
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And then The Beatles started to play here,
and all the other groups...
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like The Searchers and
Gerry and the Pacemakers.
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This is where the Cavern was.
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People ask me about the Cavern...
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and I always tell them
that it was sweaty and it smelt...
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but to me, it was the bestrock 'n'roll place that ever was.
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And in the early '60s,it was a place where kids...
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could rock 'n'roll and have fun...
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without anybody getting on their backs.
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It was a tremendous atmosphere.I don't know why, but...
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I always thought that The Beatles...
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sounded better at the Cavern
than anywhere.
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You know, they were a lot more ballsy
than the records.
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Brian Epstein, when he went down
to the Cavern...
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Brian hung out
in a completely different world.
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He was rich...
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he had a successful family,
successful furniture business...
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that had a small record store in it...
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which is how...People kept coming in saying:
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'"Hey, have you got that recordof The Beatles...
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'"and Tony Sheridan, 'My Bonnie
Lies Over'... Do you have that? '"
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After the 40th time of kids coming...
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and asking for the record, he said,'"Maybe I better get this record. '"
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He stocked the record in, sold it out...
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got another 1,000, sold that out,
and he said, "Who are these kids?"
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"They are playing at this place
called the Cavern. Check them out."
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The Beatles were then just four lads...
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on a rather dimly lit stage.
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I was immediately struck
by their music, their beat...
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and their sense of humor,
actually, onstage.
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And even afterwards, when I met them...
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I was struck again
by their personal charm.
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And it was there that, really, it all started.
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We do like the fans...
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and enjoy reading the publicity about us...
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but from time to time, you don't realize
that it's actually about yourself.
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Once when the boys came for me...
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they popped in to see
me mom and dad, you know...
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we had to go out the back
'cause there was 20 or 30 outside.
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And they wouldn't believe me mother.
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They'd knock in, saying,'"Can we have their autographs? '"
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The Beatles came down themselves
about 2:30, 3:00 in the morning...
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and they were talking to us
and signing autographs.
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And then they went away,
and then we sort of all sat down...
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and some of the lazy ones
sort of fell asleep...
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but the rest of us
just kept awake on coffee...
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and dreams of The Beatles.
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The Beatles were like a gift from God.
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I was just at the perfect age for that...
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fourteen.
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Gave us all an identity.
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And I've thought before,
just for the music...
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it was such a bonus that the music
was, like, the best music ever.
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I was Beatles all the way, man.
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My bedroom wall
was in fact completely covered...
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the walls, ceiling, doors... Any Beatle
pictures were stuck on my wall.
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I used to have these fantasies
of Paul McCartney marrying my sister...
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and all this kind of crazy stuff.
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And how wonderful it all was.
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You're going over to the States
early in the new year...
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and you're going to top the bill
on the Ed Sullivan Coast to Coast Show.
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John, so far all British pop stars...
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have not made a tremendous impact
on the States.
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How do you think you're going to fare?
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I can't really say, can I?
I mean, is it up to me? No.
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I just hope we go all right, you know.
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Are you going to vary your act
for the American audience?
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No. We haven't really got an act,
so we'll just do what we do.
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I went to New York with the boys...
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and you would see men...
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middle-aged men
walking down 5th Avenue...
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with Beatles wigs on their heads.
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And no matter where you turned
your dial on the radio...
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at any time of the day...
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you would hear a Beatles song.
It was complete saturation.
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I think life for The Beatles in the early dayswas very tough.
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Once the success had come...
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once they were not only a successin England but also broke the breeches...
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in America...
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then they lived in a giant goldfish bowl,and they couldn't escape.
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The British invasion this time goesby the code name:
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Beatlemania.
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D- day has been common knowledgefor months and this was the day.
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The Beatles are coming.
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It got bigger and bigger.
Finally we got to the point...
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where they landed at the airport
in New York...
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and there was 50,000 people there.It was unbelievable.
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I said, "This is it.
It's all over but the shouting."
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We had never seen an airportthat you couldn't get to...
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because of kidsstanding out there, screaming.
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We'd never seen kids
fainting like that at concerts.
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We'd never heard screams like that...
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that you couldn't even hear
the music while the guys...
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And you knew they were playing.
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We knew that there was a problem
that had just landed.
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I knew that they were different...
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and that their voices blended together...
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and that they had a great talent.
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And I knew they were going to be big,
and I hated them for that.
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What do you think of the comment...
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that you're nothing
but a bunch of British Elvis Presleys?
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It's not true.
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Are you going to get
a haircut while you're here?
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- Nope. No, thanks.
- I had one yesterday.
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And that's no lie. It's the truth.
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I remember one day, I combed my hair
down in a Beatle haircut...
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and my father laughed.
He thought that was so funny.
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When he realized
I wasn't going to comb it back...
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he got really pissed off.
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These girls were losing their minds.
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This appealed to me
in a very fundamental way.
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I think I was about 13 or 14,
and these girls were going nuts.
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I was pregnant...
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with Kenya, my daughter,
when the Beatles thing swept.
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And I remember
I Want To Hold Your Hand...
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and I'd be in the kitchen
just sweeping and cooking...
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and taking care of the babies,
singing I Want To Hold Your Hand.
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I was so taken with
I Want To Hold Your Hand...
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that I was up all night
'cause I didn't have a copy of it...
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and I wanted to hear it.
They played it once an hour.
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When we saw what happened
with The Beatles...
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we had a meeting and said,
"What are we going to do here?
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"We're getting eclipsed by a group
called The Beatles from London."
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My God...
We were completely jealous as hell.
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I guess that might haveturned our motors on...
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maybe got something happening...
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where we would bebetter musically than The Beatles.
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The Beach Boys were hugely important...
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demonstrating what you could do
and what you couldn't do in a studio...
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opening up the...
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And Motown had
already done that to some extent.
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You know, Motown had actually shown...
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that black pop dance music,R & B dance music...
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could just be extraordinarily beautifulto listen to...
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and beautifully produced and elegant.
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It was a very big influence.
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When we first started to make...
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a bunch of hits...
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in Detroit...
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and we called it the Motown sound...
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people were coming from Africa.
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They were coming from England.
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They were coming from Chicago,
New York, Nashville and Memphis...
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to record their people in Detroit...
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because they thought
they would get the Motown sound...
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like it was in the air somewhere.
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Motown is history. It is the greatest.
And there will always be a Motown.
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And when you look at Motown
and listen to Motown...
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and listen to any artist
that comes from Motown...
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you think of Berry Gordy...
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Stevie Wonder...
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The Supremes...
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The Four Tops...
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Marvin Gaye...
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Temptations...
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You have to think of just these people...
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because that was the foundationof the Detroit sound.
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And it lives today, and it will always live.
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The music of the time,
like The Beach Boys and Motown...
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really didn't affect us,
because that was still American music.
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America at the time was hung up
from these daft people from England...
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these scouses from Liverpool...
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singing this daft happy music
that they enjoyed doing.
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So the Motown scene
didn't matter to us, really.
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We had our own niche
with the American public.
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1964 was the beginning
of the British invasion...
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when The Beatles
finally broke down the barriers.
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And I guess that,
because it'd been pent up so much...
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because people were awaiting it...
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there had been singles
released on little labels...
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it came with a big rush.
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And in that breach pouredlots of British talent after it.
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I actually wrote it for my girlfriend.
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We had an argument one evening,
and she said, "We're finished."
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I thought, "How can
I get her to come back to me?"
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So I wrote
Don't Let The Sun Catch You Crying...
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for her and I sent it to her on a tape,
and two days later she rang me back...
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and she said,
"Gerry, can we get back together again?"
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That young girl from all those years ago
is now my wife.
246
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We were always impressedby the English bands...
247
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largely because a lot
of the bands that came over here...
248
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were just the cream of the English bands.
249
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Over here, we're exposed to every band,
and there's really bad bands...
250
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and there's really good bands,
and everything in between.
251
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But the ones that would make it
over here from England were the best.
252
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Many people came up to me and said...
253
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that the first time they heard us and
House Of The Rising Sun...
254
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was on the Chuck Berry tour.
255
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When we met Chuck Berry...
256
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he was instrumentalin making The Animals...
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really successful in America.
258
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We were on tour with Chuck Berry...
259
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and every band in Britain
wanted to be on that tour.
260
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The Stones were standing in line.
261
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Everybody was making agent,managerial, political overtures...
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to get on the Chuck Berry tour.
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And we pulled it off.
264
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I realized that if you tryto out-rock Chuck Berry...
265
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you're wasting your time.
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So I was looking for a songthat wouldn't be...
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and would have a different feel to it,
but that would be very erotic...
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and very atmospheric.
269
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So we sang House Of The Rising Sun.
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When The Animals first went to America...
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we flew into Kennedy airport...
272
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and the pilot told the passengers...
273
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that we had to be taken
to a separate part of the airport...
274
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because the fans
were mobbing security guards...
275
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were creating mayhem at the reception.
276
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And then we were hustled into a car...
277
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taken to an airport buildingthat we stood behind...
278
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and there was a press conferencewith loads of chaps...
279
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with cameras and notebooksall sitting there very nicely.
280
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And then they asked us
to go onto the stage...
281
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and they said,
"Animals, do something. Roar. Growl."
282
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All of a sudden,we were standing in front...
283
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you know, like animals in a zoo,being told to perform.
284
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Then we were hustled through customs.
285
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They thought it'd be a great exerciseto be filmed going into New York.
286
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They'd got all these British sports cars...
287
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and we had to sit perchedvery precariously...
288
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on the back of these sports cars...
289
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driven all the way from Kennedy Airportinto the center of Manhattan...
290
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waving at nonexistent crowds...
291
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and we were openingat the Paramount Theater in New York...
292
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and we did 50 shows in 10 days.
293
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There was a great sense of brotherhood...
294
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great sense of,
"We're all in this together...
295
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"and let's go to America
and kick ass," you know?
296
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The Animals and The Stones
were very similar...
297
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to the northwest bands.
298
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That raw edge to them, the roughness.
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They weren't in suits.
They were sort of anti-establishment.
300
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But we were all
cowboy fanatics at the time.
301
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We liked all the Western movies
from Hollywood...
302
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like all the John Ford movies...
303
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and we thought,
"We'll go the opposite way.
304
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"We'll call ourselves The Searchers,
after the John Wayne movie."
305
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But with Needles and Pins,
it was such a big number one for us.
306
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It was number one for four weeks.
307
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Image was very important,
name was very important...
308
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behavior was very important.
309
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Music was kind of important.
310
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What was more important
than the music you played...
311
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was where the music
you played originated.
312
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And for The Stones, they played blues.
313
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Four months after The Beatles appearedon the Ed Sullivan Show...
314
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The Rolling Stones landed in America.
315
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The band had taken its name...
316
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from the song by bluesmanMuddy Waters...
317
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and their barreling stylefrom rock pioneer Chuck Berry.
318
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The British were going
straight to the sources.
319
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Willie Dixon, you know. Chuck Berry.
320
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They were going right
straight where it came from.
321
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And they hit it hard
'cause they knew that's... The Delta Blues.
322
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They knew exactly
what the sources were...
323
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because they were students
of American music...
324
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and much more sothan American musicians were.
325
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They gave everybodya run for their money.
326
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My first impressionof The Rolling Stones was:
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"Yeah. That's the band I want to be in.
328
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"I'm going to be in that band."
329
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You know, it's amazing
what the imagination...
330
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and a bit of fate and determination can do.
331
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The first tour was tough.
332
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We were popular in New York and LA.
But the rest of it. Forget it.
333
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We used to play to empty stadiums.
334
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It was tough.
335
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The America then was...
336
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very conservative in its attitudes.
337
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We had a motel with a swimming pool.
It was right next to a freeway.
338
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Obviously, some outragedSouthern cop had driven by...
339
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and seen these longhaired peoplewith no bras on...
340
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around the swimming pool.
341
00:24:23,509 --> 00:24:26,774
Five minutes laterup come the state troopers...
342
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good old redneck boys, you know...
343
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to arrest these chicks for topless bathing.
344
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And then they're, "What are they..."
345
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So they're taken aback.
346
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We don't understand
why we're supposed to be arrested...
347
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because, you know,
"I'm sorry. I left the bra in London."
348
00:24:45,230 --> 00:24:46,993
Why do you like The Rolling Stones?
349
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Because Keith is beautiful
and they're great.
350
00:24:49,668 --> 00:24:52,159
And because they're so ugly
that they're appealing.
351
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I think they're the greatest.
They dress different.
352
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They're the best things
that have ever happened in the U.S.
353
00:24:58,177 --> 00:25:01,738
We could see where we had an audience...
354
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where we went down really well.
355
00:25:04,983 --> 00:25:07,417
They loved it, so we could see
what we were gonna get...
356
00:25:07,486 --> 00:25:11,081
and we had supporters,
we has disc jockeys that liked our records.
357
00:25:12,057 --> 00:25:16,756
But, anyway, we knew we had
to come back and do it again and again.
358
00:25:22,134 --> 00:25:25,399
It was a bit scary.I mean, we had some very scary moments.
359
00:25:25,971 --> 00:25:28,235
I remember one momentthat scared me very much.
360
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We were in a limo, coming to a gig...
361
00:25:30,409 --> 00:25:33,640
and the whole thingwas just engulfed with people...
362
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just all over the limo.
363
00:25:35,113 --> 00:25:38,105
And then I thought,'"No one's coming here.
364
00:25:38,183 --> 00:25:41,550
'"We're just kind of stuck in this limo.What's actually gonna happen? '"
365
00:25:41,820 --> 00:25:44,345
The Rolling Stones had
a big influence on everybody...
366
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as to what to do and what not to do.
367
00:25:47,192 --> 00:25:50,650
You know, they're the best example
of doing the right thing...
368
00:25:50,729 --> 00:25:53,220
and then doing the wrong thing.
369
00:25:53,298 --> 00:25:55,994
The Beatles were the good boys.
The Stones were the bad boys.
370
00:25:56,068 --> 00:25:58,127
Being the bad boys
may have been more fun...
371
00:25:58,203 --> 00:26:00,671
and I think The Beatles
may have been jealous of that.
372
00:26:01,006 --> 00:26:04,100
The Beatles and The Stones
were always friends...
373
00:26:04,176 --> 00:26:05,973
but they were also rivals.
374
00:26:06,645 --> 00:26:08,840
The Stones were
kind of upstarts, in a way.
375
00:26:08,914 --> 00:26:12,372
They came almost, but a little bit laterthan The Beatles...
376
00:26:13,085 --> 00:26:18,022
and I guess The Stones werethe image that the mothers didn't want...
377
00:26:18,590 --> 00:26:21,559
whereas The Beatles became the imagethat mothers did want...
378
00:26:21,627 --> 00:26:23,857
so, in a way,that worked against The Beatles...
379
00:26:23,929 --> 00:26:26,921
who really wanted to beas rough and tough as The Stones.
380
00:26:27,966 --> 00:26:30,093
I woke up in the middle of the night...
381
00:26:30,669 --> 00:26:34,036
put it down to maybe a minute of...
382
00:26:36,208 --> 00:26:38,073
'"I can't get no satisfaction. '"
383
00:26:39,177 --> 00:26:42,977
And woke up the next morningand looked at my cassette machine...
384
00:26:43,048 --> 00:26:47,678
and seen that it's gone from the beginning
of the tape to the end...
385
00:26:47,753 --> 00:26:49,846
and I don't remember doing any of this.
386
00:26:50,289 --> 00:26:53,315
What people said about it
was that the lyrics were kind of...
387
00:26:55,360 --> 00:26:56,793
very direct.
388
00:26:58,964 --> 00:27:00,955
I just wrote what I felt, really.
389
00:28:29,421 --> 00:28:31,912
You couldn't ask for betterrock 'n'roll-type people...
390
00:28:32,024 --> 00:28:33,389
than The Beatles or The Stones.
391
00:28:34,860 --> 00:28:38,591
The Beatles and
Gerry and the Pacemakers made it...
392
00:28:38,663 --> 00:28:39,857
and The Searchers made it...
393
00:28:39,931 --> 00:28:41,899
and Billy J. Kramer & the Dakotas
made it...
394
00:28:41,967 --> 00:28:43,264
and there were no bands left.
395
00:28:43,335 --> 00:28:46,498
They'd all become stars and gone
to London, and they were touring...
396
00:28:46,571 --> 00:28:47,697
in the big buildings.
397
00:28:47,773 --> 00:28:50,867
So the only club band left basically,
the best of what was left...
398
00:28:50,942 --> 00:28:52,273
was Herman's Hermits.
399
00:29:17,402 --> 00:29:20,200
Every band had to be different,otherwise you couldn't survive.
400
00:29:20,272 --> 00:29:21,603
You had to find your thing.
401
00:29:21,873 --> 00:29:24,842
And Herman's Hermitschose to go the pop sound.
402
00:29:24,910 --> 00:29:27,845
I couldn't write songs
like John Lennon or Paul McCartney.
403
00:29:27,913 --> 00:29:31,246
I looked silly wearing the leather clothes.
404
00:29:31,316 --> 00:29:35,616
You know, I didn't look like
a Gene Vincent-type character.
405
00:29:37,789 --> 00:29:42,158
I wasn't part of a band,
so we chose to be like a pop band.
406
00:29:42,227 --> 00:29:45,321
We went, '"Let's do good romantic songs.
407
00:29:45,397 --> 00:29:49,731
'"Let's make records like old movieswhere everyone lives happily ever after. '"
408
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:04,142
I had become friendly
with Paul McCartney and...
409
00:30:04,216 --> 00:30:06,309
had heard this song
that he'd written called...
410
00:30:06,384 --> 00:30:10,445
"World Without Love,"
which The Beatles had declined to do.
411
00:30:10,789 --> 00:30:15,123
I heard it and thought that it was a song
Gordon and I could sing reasonably well.
412
00:30:15,193 --> 00:30:17,354
So I asked Paul.
413
00:30:17,696 --> 00:30:22,463
I said, "We've got this record contract.
We're going to go and cut some songs.
414
00:30:22,667 --> 00:30:26,068
"Could you finish that song?"
It was unfinished. It didn't have a bridge.
415
00:30:26,138 --> 00:30:28,800
And he finished it, wrote the bridge...
416
00:30:29,274 --> 00:30:32,937
and we went and recorded it.And fortunately it was a big hit.
417
00:31:27,365 --> 00:31:30,766
It really wasn't until The Beatles
and the whole English invasion...
418
00:31:30,835 --> 00:31:33,770
that I became just a crazed Anglophile...
419
00:31:33,838 --> 00:31:37,035
and would pick up anything I could
about English bands...
420
00:31:37,108 --> 00:31:40,441
particularly onesthat weren't even available in the States.
421
00:31:40,512 --> 00:31:44,380
But it was always English music for me.That was the turning point.
422
00:31:45,116 --> 00:31:48,950
The Kinks were much more
quintessentially English.
423
00:31:49,187 --> 00:31:51,087
I always think...
424
00:31:51,890 --> 00:31:54,882
that Ray Davies should one day
be poet laureate.
425
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,861
You know, he invented
a new kind of poetry...
426
00:31:59,831 --> 00:32:02,629
and a new kind of language
for pop writing...
427
00:32:02,701 --> 00:32:07,001
which I think influenced me
from the very beginning.
428
00:32:07,606 --> 00:32:11,804
The Kinks were completely crazy.
Completely.
429
00:32:12,210 --> 00:32:14,337
They would do things like...
430
00:32:16,081 --> 00:32:17,878
cut all the wires...
431
00:32:18,416 --> 00:32:22,819
to the electricity while you were playing.
Just cut them with pliers.
432
00:32:23,355 --> 00:32:26,051
They would throw things at you
while you were playing.
433
00:32:26,124 --> 00:32:28,183
They were completely nuts.
434
00:32:28,793 --> 00:32:32,854
But once you heard that
You Really Got Me...
435
00:32:34,733 --> 00:32:38,931
you knew that they were destined
for fame and glory.
436
00:33:03,928 --> 00:33:07,022
London was the known centerof the universe...
437
00:33:07,098 --> 00:33:09,259
as far as the '60s were concerned.
438
00:33:09,334 --> 00:33:11,700
I'm not saying that in a conceited manner.
439
00:33:11,770 --> 00:33:14,967
It's where the fashion
was emanating from.
440
00:33:15,173 --> 00:33:17,164
Politics were unfolding.
441
00:33:17,342 --> 00:33:20,903
Carnaby Street was for the kids...
442
00:33:21,446 --> 00:33:26,042
coming in on the tube to think they were
buying what Londoners were buying.
443
00:33:26,117 --> 00:33:29,348
If Eric Clapton wore a suit...
444
00:33:29,421 --> 00:33:32,822
with wide lapels, like a Georgian suit...
445
00:33:32,891 --> 00:33:35,826
it very quickly appeared in Carnaby Street.
446
00:33:36,061 --> 00:33:38,791
It really was,
all the Carnaby Street thing...
447
00:33:38,897 --> 00:33:40,455
Fantastic clubs.
448
00:33:40,865 --> 00:33:44,392
It's a memory thatyou don't have to romanticize.
449
00:33:44,469 --> 00:33:46,460
It was very real.
450
00:34:11,763 --> 00:34:15,392
All of a sudden, kids had to have
long hair like they had in England.
451
00:34:15,467 --> 00:34:17,662
We almost began to talk like Englishmen.
452
00:34:17,736 --> 00:34:19,226
We wore the same clothing.
453
00:34:19,304 --> 00:34:23,502
All sorts of things happened with the lookthat we borrowed from England.
454
00:34:23,675 --> 00:34:25,905
We took how we looked...
455
00:34:26,111 --> 00:34:28,909
we took fashion and all that stuff
very seriously.
456
00:34:29,347 --> 00:34:33,181
I remember thinking a lotabout how I would have to look.
457
00:34:42,193 --> 00:34:45,685
The energy in London,
and the energy around the music...
458
00:34:46,164 --> 00:34:49,725
and then The Stones,
there was this onward-going battle.
459
00:34:50,335 --> 00:34:52,997
They were all down in the clubs together.
460
00:34:53,071 --> 00:34:56,438
But it was all about,
"Where are you on the charts today?"
461
00:34:56,508 --> 00:34:58,533
And it was all very real, you know.
462
00:34:58,643 --> 00:35:02,238
They were pumping records out,
and they were so prolific.
463
00:35:02,947 --> 00:35:07,384
Andrew Oldham was very keen that wewrite songs because of obvious reasons.
464
00:35:07,452 --> 00:35:09,443
First, we got more money.
465
00:35:09,521 --> 00:35:11,887
One of those was As Tears Go By...
466
00:35:12,023 --> 00:35:15,652
which Marianne Faithfull recorded,
and that was a quite good one.
467
00:35:15,927 --> 00:35:19,624
But again, it was a song
written for a woman, more or less.
468
00:35:22,634 --> 00:35:26,126
It became a hit because it was
a better song, she was good looking...
469
00:35:26,204 --> 00:35:28,138
and Andrew promoted it, and so on.
470
00:35:28,206 --> 00:35:32,074
And we promoted it because we wrote it,
by which time, we were quite well known.
471
00:35:32,143 --> 00:35:33,940
The whole thing of it took off.
472
00:35:34,012 --> 00:35:36,810
I did realize
that it was a very strange song...
473
00:35:36,881 --> 00:35:39,975
for a 17-year-old to sing.
474
00:35:40,185 --> 00:35:44,815
And, of course, it's haunted me all my life
and probably always will.
475
00:35:45,523 --> 00:35:47,787
It took me a long time to really like it.
476
00:35:47,859 --> 00:35:51,317
I couldn't until I really became
more the right age.
477
00:36:22,260 --> 00:36:24,922
My legs were shaking.My knees were knocking together...
478
00:36:24,996 --> 00:36:27,931
which, of course,was incredibly charming, I suppose...
479
00:36:28,433 --> 00:36:32,199
for the audience to see
this beautiful little, blond...
480
00:36:32,270 --> 00:36:35,501
angelic creature shaking with fear...
481
00:36:35,573 --> 00:36:38,770
listening to people judging
As Tears Go By.
482
00:36:39,677 --> 00:36:41,577
I always liked the British sound.
483
00:36:41,913 --> 00:36:45,041
We got fearful 'cause they were
getting ready to dominate the charts.
484
00:36:45,250 --> 00:36:48,617
It was kind of a fearful thing for Motown,'"Wow, what's going to happen? '"
485
00:36:48,686 --> 00:36:50,085
But it really didn't hurt at all.
486
00:36:50,154 --> 00:36:52,918
It's just that they had their spaceand we just had ours.
487
00:36:53,191 --> 00:36:56,092
It was really a great compliment
to everybody...
488
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,822
that these two musics
were really dominating the charts.
489
00:36:59,097 --> 00:37:03,056
There were so many Motown artists
who were all good.
490
00:37:03,801 --> 00:37:07,498
It was just like a stable of talented people.
491
00:37:07,805 --> 00:37:09,796
When I listen to some of The Supremes...
492
00:37:09,874 --> 00:37:12,934
they are bigger than The Beatles,as far as I am concerned...
493
00:37:13,011 --> 00:37:16,242
but they never got that recognition.That always bothered me.
494
00:37:16,548 --> 00:37:20,450
'Cause The Supremes
were the biggest things happening.
495
00:38:12,503 --> 00:38:17,167
The Spoonful was
touring the south in 1965...
496
00:38:17,241 --> 00:38:19,175
with The Supremes.
497
00:38:19,978 --> 00:38:21,673
The theory being...
498
00:38:21,746 --> 00:38:25,842
both of us were going
to increase our audience base.
499
00:38:25,917 --> 00:38:30,479
And we were both anxious
to share in some of the other's audience.
500
00:38:58,016 --> 00:39:02,851
We provided a direct rebuttal
to the English invasion.
501
00:39:03,488 --> 00:39:05,456
People kind of expected us...
502
00:39:05,523 --> 00:39:08,981
to imitate The Beatlesin a lot of ways that we didn't.
503
00:39:19,537 --> 00:39:21,129
What happened to America...
504
00:39:21,205 --> 00:39:23,969
in this crisis of confidence
when The Beatles...
505
00:39:24,042 --> 00:39:27,341
and Freddie and the Dreamers even
were wiping out American bands?
506
00:39:27,845 --> 00:39:30,473
America looked at the situation,
assessed it...
507
00:39:30,548 --> 00:39:35,281
and within a very short time,
by the end of '65, '66...
508
00:39:36,054 --> 00:39:37,954
it was back in business.
509
00:40:00,578 --> 00:40:03,843
In our neck of the woods,
they were a pretty popular band.
510
00:40:05,116 --> 00:40:08,847
I never noticed a Hammond organ
in my life till I saw The Rascals.
511
00:40:10,021 --> 00:40:13,821
Then we went and scrounged up
somebody's old Hammond organ...
512
00:40:14,025 --> 00:40:16,516
and here's a whole other texture of sound.
513
00:40:18,129 --> 00:40:21,587
People don't realize
the contribution The Rascals made.
514
00:40:22,333 --> 00:40:26,599
They were the uptown band.
They had this vicious rhythm section.
515
00:40:26,671 --> 00:40:28,195
I mean, it was popping.
516
00:40:28,272 --> 00:40:32,800
Between Felix's left hand and Dino Danelli,I mean, it was great!
517
00:40:34,145 --> 00:40:38,673
There was also a tremendousamount of competition between bands.
518
00:40:38,750 --> 00:40:41,583
It was a very competitive thing...
519
00:40:41,652 --> 00:40:44,018
between the East Coastand the West Coast.
520
00:40:44,188 --> 00:40:47,248
The Byrds werethe West Coast guys at the time.
521
00:40:48,693 --> 00:40:51,753
We became this very free,
unstructured act onstage...
522
00:40:51,863 --> 00:40:55,162
and did what we pleased
and built around...
523
00:40:58,903 --> 00:41:01,303
a real song-oriented show.
524
00:41:02,406 --> 00:41:05,466
The vocals were great.
Gene Clark was a fine lead singer.
525
00:41:05,543 --> 00:41:07,101
And McGuinn and Crosby.
526
00:41:07,578 --> 00:41:10,046
We were really turninginto a pretty decent band.
527
00:41:10,114 --> 00:41:12,275
It was starting to sound real musical.
528
00:41:35,306 --> 00:41:37,399
But we couldn't turn down
a trip to England...
529
00:41:37,475 --> 00:41:39,773
'cause it was where The Beatles and
Stones came from.
530
00:41:39,844 --> 00:41:42,745
We thought maybe something in the water
made you sound better.
531
00:41:42,914 --> 00:41:45,712
We didn't know what it was,
but we wanted to go over there.
532
00:41:45,783 --> 00:41:49,241
So we went over there,
and our unscrupulous promoter...
533
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:51,811
had billed us as
"America's answer to The Beatles."
534
00:41:52,323 --> 00:41:56,384
I mean, The Byrds were not
in The Beatles' class ever.
535
00:41:59,030 --> 00:42:02,625
We became a good band,
and we had a lot of good ideas...
536
00:42:02,700 --> 00:42:05,567
but we were not America's answer...
537
00:42:05,636 --> 00:42:07,604
to bug spray, let alone The Beatles.
538
00:42:29,427 --> 00:42:32,624
In the early '60s the only people in LA
were The Beach Boys...
539
00:42:32,697 --> 00:42:34,562
and a few other bands.
540
00:42:36,868 --> 00:42:41,464
Once we started out there,
a lot of the bands started coming to LA.
541
00:42:41,806 --> 00:42:44,900
It seemed like The Byrds were a catalyst...
542
00:42:46,210 --> 00:42:50,806
for that music scene to develop
into more of an alternative area.
543
00:42:51,549 --> 00:42:54,848
I was dropped on my head
when I was three years old.
544
00:42:54,919 --> 00:42:57,285
Someone was throwing me in the air
and catching me.
545
00:42:57,355 --> 00:43:00,051
They called his name,
and he looked away and I went...
546
00:43:00,124 --> 00:43:01,557
So I've heard harmony ever since.
547
00:43:01,626 --> 00:43:05,585
When I hear a melody,
I hear a harmony to it. It's strange.
548
00:43:05,730 --> 00:43:09,188
John arranged everything
that The Mamas & The Papas ever did.
549
00:43:09,767 --> 00:43:14,932
He was the vocal arranger from heaven.
550
00:43:15,139 --> 00:43:20,441
I mean, he just had a great magical touch.
551
00:43:48,372 --> 00:43:51,705
Creeque Alley was just a...
All of our friends who were in California...
552
00:43:51,776 --> 00:43:55,371
and who were here and there, and what
they were doing and what was going on.
553
00:43:55,446 --> 00:43:58,279
The Lovin' Spoonful and The Byrds.
554
00:44:06,357 --> 00:44:11,226
Michelle was the very first runaway
in California.
555
00:44:12,096 --> 00:44:16,590
She was the atypical California girl
that Brian Wilson wrote a song about.
556
00:44:16,968 --> 00:44:20,904
California Girls. And she was
absolutely, ravishingly beautiful...
557
00:44:21,238 --> 00:44:25,834
and had long blond hair,
and didn't wear shoes, and had beads...
558
00:44:25,910 --> 00:44:28,242
and had run away,
and she was 16 years old.
559
00:44:29,714 --> 00:44:31,079
A real delight.
560
00:44:58,142 --> 00:45:01,270
Denny had one of the most beautiful
voices I had ever heard.
561
00:45:01,345 --> 00:45:04,678
So Denny and Michelle...
562
00:45:04,749 --> 00:45:07,240
and I started singing together.
563
00:45:13,324 --> 00:45:15,519
We started to sing as a trio.
564
00:45:16,394 --> 00:45:20,524
And everywhere we went,
he was always on the phone...
565
00:45:20,865 --> 00:45:23,766
with this girl that he was talking to.
566
00:45:23,834 --> 00:45:26,860
Constantly. Everywhere we went.
Every city we went to.
567
00:45:26,937 --> 00:45:29,633
He was on the phone
with this girl named Cass.
568
00:45:29,707 --> 00:45:32,608
And we said, "So who is this chick?
Is she your girlfriend?"
569
00:45:40,985 --> 00:45:45,285
We decided that we were going
to really keep everything in the song...
570
00:45:46,390 --> 00:45:47,687
factual.
571
00:45:47,758 --> 00:45:50,522
We weren't going
to take any liberties, you know.
572
00:45:50,795 --> 00:45:53,696
John is a very clever writer, you know.
573
00:45:53,764 --> 00:45:56,824
And the whole song was completedin about three hours.
574
00:46:13,818 --> 00:46:18,050
From LA to London, Rock was nowa truly international phenomenon.
575
00:46:19,023 --> 00:46:23,016
And back in England, new bandswere busy developing a cocky edge.
576
00:46:23,794 --> 00:46:26,262
They were led by The Whoand Pete Townshend...
577
00:46:26,330 --> 00:46:29,822
who made a ritual out of demolishinghis electric guitar on stage.
578
00:46:31,569 --> 00:46:36,006
You have to remember
that The Who broke a full year and a half...
579
00:46:36,073 --> 00:46:39,565
after The Stones and The Beatles
had broken, maybe more than that.
580
00:46:41,212 --> 00:46:43,578
By that time,we were allowed to be angry.
581
00:46:43,647 --> 00:46:46,878
You know, The Stones and The Beatleshad broken enough rules.
582
00:46:46,951 --> 00:46:48,851
So our anger wasn't all our own anger.
583
00:46:48,919 --> 00:46:53,822
Our anger was a reflection of the anger
that we felt from people in the audience.
584
00:47:39,069 --> 00:47:42,368
I think I wrote it as a series of songs...
585
00:47:42,439 --> 00:47:46,933
about my inability to express...
586
00:47:48,078 --> 00:47:49,875
what I felt to women.
587
00:47:50,514 --> 00:47:54,245
A couple of kids came up and said,'"You know, that was great. '"
588
00:47:54,718 --> 00:47:58,347
And I said, "It's just about some kid
who can't explain what he thinks."
589
00:47:58,422 --> 00:48:01,084
And they said, "That's it! That's us!"
590
00:48:01,692 --> 00:48:03,956
That was really when I realized...
591
00:48:04,028 --> 00:48:07,725
that I'd been voted in as spokesmanfor that bunch of kids.
592
00:48:08,832 --> 00:48:11,858
Most of the scene
was actually happening in London.
593
00:48:12,169 --> 00:48:14,797
There was a kind of an invisible line...
594
00:48:14,972 --> 00:48:18,703
that went from just north of London
to the rest of England.
595
00:48:19,310 --> 00:48:22,905
It wasn't until The Beatles broke throughand became very successful...
596
00:48:22,980 --> 00:48:25,744
that it changed all that geographically.
597
00:48:27,184 --> 00:48:31,086
We came up with Carrie-Anne.
That was originally Marianne.
598
00:48:31,155 --> 00:48:33,919
We actually wrote it
about Marianne Faithfull...
599
00:48:33,991 --> 00:48:37,051
but didn't have the guts
to call it "Marianne."
600
00:48:37,127 --> 00:48:40,585
So we called it "Carrie-Anne,"
a made-up name we'd never heard of.
601
00:49:12,263 --> 00:49:16,222
I must say, when it came out,
I wondered if it was written for me.
602
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:21,003
But I sort of brushed it aside,
like I always have done really.
603
00:49:21,071 --> 00:49:23,005
"No, of course it wouldn't have been."
604
00:49:32,283 --> 00:49:34,478
The bands for me that meant a lot...
605
00:49:35,586 --> 00:49:38,612
primarily The Beatles
without question, above all...
606
00:49:38,922 --> 00:49:41,789
The Kinks and the Small Faces...
607
00:49:42,259 --> 00:49:45,626
and somewhere behind them
other groups like...
608
00:49:47,498 --> 00:49:49,227
The Spencer Davis Group.
609
00:50:14,625 --> 00:50:17,924
Steve Winwood was now known
as this child prodigy...
610
00:50:17,995 --> 00:50:20,987
a title that he didn't take to very kindly,
I can assure you.
611
00:50:21,065 --> 00:50:23,295
He didn't like it.
He wanted to be a musician.
612
00:50:23,367 --> 00:50:25,028
He wanted to be one of the boys.
613
00:50:55,866 --> 00:50:59,768
In March of 1966, John Lennon madean off-the-cuff remark...
614
00:50:59,870 --> 00:51:02,338
suggesting that The Beatleswere bigger than Jesus.
615
00:51:03,073 --> 00:51:05,064
His comments caused an uproar.
616
00:51:05,743 --> 00:51:07,904
In America 's conservative Bible belt...
617
00:51:07,978 --> 00:51:11,209
records were burnedand protests organized.
618
00:51:11,615 --> 00:51:13,845
I think John's remark about Jesus Christ...
619
00:51:13,917 --> 00:51:16,784
obviously was a stupid thing to do.
620
00:51:17,221 --> 00:51:19,815
I don't think he meant it
the way it was interpreted.
621
00:51:19,890 --> 00:51:22,415
He didn't mean to say,
"Hey, we are bigger than Jesus."
622
00:51:22,493 --> 00:51:24,518
What he meant to say was that Jesus...
623
00:51:24,595 --> 00:51:28,156
or rather Christianity didn't seem to be
as popular as The Beatles.
624
00:51:28,732 --> 00:51:31,030
The burning of Beatles records...
625
00:51:31,101 --> 00:51:35,060
and the general anti-Beatle elementthat arose...
626
00:51:35,406 --> 00:51:38,375
was very disturbing.It was pretty rough stuff.
627
00:51:38,842 --> 00:51:40,605
And as you know...
628
00:51:41,345 --> 00:51:45,111
John actually made an apology
saying that he didn't mean it that way...
629
00:51:45,182 --> 00:51:48,481
but if he did upset people,
he was really sorry about it.
630
00:51:49,253 --> 00:51:53,087
I am not saying that we are better,
or greater, or comparing us with...
631
00:51:53,157 --> 00:51:57,560
Jesus Christ as a person,
or God as a thing, whatever it is.
632
00:51:57,828 --> 00:52:01,195
I just said what I said, and it was wrong,
or was taken wrong...
633
00:52:01,265 --> 00:52:02,732
and now it's all this.
634
00:52:02,866 --> 00:52:07,303
Fame, if you have too much of it,
is a pretty heavy penance.
635
00:52:07,538 --> 00:52:09,529
And it got very wearing.
636
00:52:09,606 --> 00:52:11,870
It was in danger of destroying their lives.
637
00:52:12,109 --> 00:52:14,441
So it was difficult for them
to cope with that.
638
00:52:15,145 --> 00:52:19,172
That was one of the reasons why theywanted to relax into the studio more.
639
00:52:19,550 --> 00:52:23,384
The Beatles came, and the whole
English invasion behind that.
640
00:52:24,855 --> 00:52:28,188
And suddenly here was something
that was of my own generation.
641
00:52:28,258 --> 00:52:30,283
Because it was a strange thing...
642
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:35,195
to soak up the '50s music at the age of 12,
when it was really all over.
643
00:52:35,666 --> 00:52:36,792
It was just great.
644
00:52:36,867 --> 00:52:42,100
Exciting, fresh, and interesting. They're
very good, really musical and funny.
645
00:52:42,806 --> 00:52:44,774
What can you say about The Beatles?
646
00:52:44,842 --> 00:52:48,209
They really transformed popular music.
647
00:52:48,846 --> 00:52:52,714
Something that I guess
we've taken from The Beatles...
648
00:52:52,883 --> 00:52:55,681
is the thing of never trying
to repeat yourself.
649
00:52:55,752 --> 00:52:57,481
Always keep moving.
650
00:52:57,855 --> 00:53:01,621
These four guys from Liverpool
were stealing a march on us.
651
00:53:02,426 --> 00:53:05,020
It was a slap.
It was a brawler for a while...
652
00:53:05,095 --> 00:53:07,563
especially since they were successful...
653
00:53:07,965 --> 00:53:09,432
and we weren't.
654
00:53:09,500 --> 00:53:13,368
But we met them real early.
They heard about us and came to see us...
655
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:19,502
one night in some club.
656
00:53:21,345 --> 00:53:25,873
Suddenly they were regular guys,
we started talking guitars and songs.
657
00:53:25,949 --> 00:53:29,817
Because at that time Mick and I
hadn't considered writing songs.
658
00:53:29,887 --> 00:53:33,414
In fact, if it wasn't for The Beatles,
we probably never would have.
659
00:54:14,464 --> 00:54:16,830
The British invasion
had the biggest impact on me.
660
00:54:16,967 --> 00:54:19,333
Stuff that was coming out of England...
661
00:54:19,403 --> 00:54:22,201
The Animals and The Stones
and The Beatles.
662
00:54:22,272 --> 00:54:24,297
Then I went back and discovered...
663
00:54:24,374 --> 00:54:28,140
a lot of the blues roots and soul roots,and the original records.
664
00:54:31,140 --> 00:54:35,140
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