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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:01:04,631 --> 00:01:08,863 The most difficult day in the life of Professor Shkolnik. 2 00:01:14,140 --> 00:01:15,869 l'm leaving. 3 00:01:17,277 --> 00:01:18,744 You coming? 4 00:01:32,292 --> 00:01:33,884 Professor Uriel Shkolnik, 5 00:01:33,993 --> 00:01:38,123 Head, Mandel Institute of Jewish Studies at Hebrew University, Jerusalem. 6 00:01:38,498 --> 00:01:41,797 Max Kuper, professor for Jewish Thought, 7 00:01:41,901 --> 00:01:43,892 full professor in the Talmud Department, 8 00:01:44,003 --> 00:01:47,996 an internationally renowned scholar of Talmudic and the Sages literature. 9 00:01:48,241 --> 00:01:50,471 Among his prestigious awards, 10 00:01:50,610 --> 00:01:54,637 the Bialik Award, the Jerusalem Prize for Rabbinic literature, 11 00:01:54,747 --> 00:01:56,339 the Kaplan Prize and the Urbach Prize. 12 00:01:56,449 --> 00:01:58,349 To the lsrael Museum, please. 13 00:01:58,785 --> 00:02:02,118 Professor Shkolnik is a member of the American Academy 14 00:02:02,222 --> 00:02:04,486 for Jewish research in New York. 15 00:02:05,291 --> 00:02:11,321 His research is compiled in nine books and dozens of papers, dealing in subjects 16 00:02:11,431 --> 00:02:13,922 on marital laws in the Talmudic era, 17 00:02:14,033 --> 00:02:16,524 law and ethics in the world of the Sages, 18 00:02:16,636 --> 00:02:19,002 and memory and identity in the Babylonian Diaspora. 19 00:02:19,205 --> 00:02:25,269 Professor Shkolnik's scientific contributions attest to daring thought and depth, 20 00:02:25,512 --> 00:02:31,849 and to a new perspective on Jewish culture and intellectual history. 21 00:02:32,552 --> 00:02:37,649 For all these accomplishments, the nominating committee has decided, 22 00:02:37,757 --> 00:02:39,554 with the approval of the Council, 23 00:02:39,659 --> 00:02:43,652 the President of the Academy, and General Assembly, 24 00:02:43,763 --> 00:02:50,032 to welcome Professor Shkolnik into the National lsrael Academy of Sciences. 25 00:03:00,780 --> 00:03:03,510 Welcome, Professor Shkolnik. 26 00:03:03,616 --> 00:03:06,346 We are proud to have you among us. 27 00:03:06,452 --> 00:03:07,419 Thank you very much. 28 00:03:15,094 --> 00:03:17,824 Mr. President Shimon Peres, 29 00:03:18,264 --> 00:03:21,893 President of the Academy, Professor Yehuda Grossman, 30 00:03:22,569 --> 00:03:24,628 fellow members of the Academy, 31 00:03:24,737 --> 00:03:28,434 my father, Professor Eliezer Shkolnik, with us tonight, 32 00:03:29,209 --> 00:03:31,677 my mother, Dr. Judith Shkolnik. 33 00:03:33,279 --> 00:03:36,339 Family, friends, esteemed guests. 34 00:03:37,283 --> 00:03:39,046 Much have l learned, 35 00:03:39,152 --> 00:03:43,646 yet l have but skimmed from the knowledge of my teachers. 36 00:03:44,090 --> 00:03:47,856 So l feel tonight, standing before you, 37 00:03:48,094 --> 00:03:53,031 a little nervous, grateful, and mostly filled 38 00:03:53,132 --> 00:03:56,499 with appreciation for the people l had the privilege to learn from. 39 00:03:59,372 --> 00:04:01,840 l'd like to tell you a story. 40 00:04:02,775 --> 00:04:05,710 When l was a child, maybe eight years old, 41 00:04:05,812 --> 00:04:09,680 l came home from school with a form to fill out. 42 00:04:09,782 --> 00:04:13,650 Among the questions was, ''Father's profession.'' 43 00:04:14,187 --> 00:04:16,314 l knew my father worked at the university, 44 00:04:16,422 --> 00:04:19,983 busy there with the Talmud and ancient books, 45 00:04:20,093 --> 00:04:21,685 and that he was a professor. 46 00:04:21,995 --> 00:04:25,795 But l didn't know if that was considered a profession, 47 00:04:26,399 --> 00:04:29,994 what they meant by ''father's profession.'' 48 00:04:30,370 --> 00:04:33,771 So l asked Father what to write. 49 00:04:34,641 --> 00:04:38,304 He said, without hesitation, ''Write 'teacher'!'' 50 00:04:39,912 --> 00:04:43,075 ''You're not a teacher. l have teachers. 51 00:04:43,182 --> 00:04:46,345 ''You're not like them. You're a professor!'' 52 00:04:46,619 --> 00:04:50,020 My mother shouted to me, 53 00:04:50,123 --> 00:04:53,388 ''Write 'Talmud researcher,' or 'lecturer.' 54 00:04:53,493 --> 00:04:57,759 ''Sorry, put down 'Senior lecturer'!'' 55 00:04:59,766 --> 00:05:04,829 But my father forced me to write ''teacher.'' 56 00:05:05,204 --> 00:05:10,608 And asked to see the form, as only a manuscript researcher knows, 57 00:05:11,844 --> 00:05:13,937 to make sure l didn't make a mistake, 58 00:05:14,047 --> 00:05:17,483 or leave space on the line to add something after he'd gone. 59 00:05:18,084 --> 00:05:22,885 l wrote down ''teacher'' in huge letters. 60 00:05:23,323 --> 00:05:26,622 ''That's my profession. Teacher,'' he said. 61 00:05:28,628 --> 00:05:31,825 l was disappointed. 62 00:05:32,932 --> 00:05:34,456 Ashamed. 63 00:05:35,168 --> 00:05:40,401 What kid brags about his father, the teacher? 64 00:05:40,807 --> 00:05:43,537 Lecturer, maybe, but teacher? 65 00:05:45,144 --> 00:05:47,112 Several years have passed, 66 00:05:47,213 --> 00:05:50,148 and today l know two things l didn't know then. 67 00:05:50,416 --> 00:05:51,747 One, 68 00:05:52,418 --> 00:05:56,718 even a senior Talmud lecturer at Hebrew University 69 00:05:56,823 --> 00:05:59,690 is not something kids brag about at school. 70 00:06:00,626 --> 00:06:03,390 Two, and seriously, this time. 71 00:06:03,496 --> 00:06:05,987 lf one really has to define our profession, 72 00:06:06,099 --> 00:06:12,004 the nature of our craft, the essence of this totality 73 00:06:12,105 --> 00:06:15,700 that takes over every second of our professional lives, 74 00:06:15,808 --> 00:06:19,608 and, to tell the truth, our personal lives, too, 75 00:06:19,712 --> 00:06:23,876 our aspirations, our social ties, our dreams... 76 00:06:24,617 --> 00:06:28,678 We are teachers. Those who impart knowledge to others. 77 00:06:28,788 --> 00:06:33,122 Who take from the former generation and pass on to the next. 78 00:06:33,226 --> 00:06:34,955 That is our role. 79 00:06:36,095 --> 00:06:38,495 So, thank you, Father, for this distinction, 80 00:06:38,598 --> 00:06:40,065 for the personal example, 81 00:06:40,166 --> 00:06:42,634 for the way of life you set in our home, 82 00:06:42,735 --> 00:06:46,296 for the cultural fortress you built around us. 83 00:06:47,106 --> 00:06:50,200 When your grandchildren, my children, ask me today 84 00:06:50,309 --> 00:06:55,212 what my profession is, l reply, with much pride, 85 00:06:56,282 --> 00:07:00,048 that l, like you, am a teacher. 86 00:07:02,822 --> 00:07:04,289 Thank you very much. 87 00:07:04,791 --> 00:07:06,315 Thank you very much. 88 00:07:31,751 --> 00:07:34,777 lt's nothing, just one lecture. 89 00:07:34,987 --> 00:07:38,445 Dinner and a few meetings. 90 00:07:38,658 --> 00:07:40,523 Other than that, l'm free. 91 00:07:40,927 --> 00:07:42,656 No complaints. 92 00:07:44,530 --> 00:07:49,365 l'll be in New York on February 6th. 93 00:07:50,470 --> 00:07:53,598 No, a fundraiser for the Friends of the University. 94 00:07:58,744 --> 00:07:59,733 At the Pierre, of course. 95 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:02,443 You think Zilla would come with me otherwise? 96 00:08:06,152 --> 00:08:10,248 Listen, l'm at the lsrael Museum 97 00:08:10,690 --> 00:08:14,626 and l can't talk on the phone inside. 98 00:08:15,127 --> 00:08:16,389 l need to get back. 99 00:08:17,330 --> 00:08:21,198 No, nothing, a ceremony, the Academy of Sciences... 100 00:08:21,367 --> 00:08:22,766 Where to, sir? 101 00:08:23,536 --> 00:08:26,096 -l was already inside. -Where's inside? 102 00:08:27,106 --> 00:08:29,336 At the ceremony. l went out for a few minutes. 103 00:08:29,442 --> 00:08:30,773 Lift your sleeve. 104 00:08:32,011 --> 00:08:33,171 Why? 105 00:08:35,481 --> 00:08:38,041 -What is your name? -Eliezer Shkolnik. 106 00:08:38,150 --> 00:08:39,378 And what ceremony is this? 107 00:08:41,921 --> 00:08:42,888 Excuse me? 108 00:08:43,956 --> 00:08:45,890 What ceremony is being held here? 109 00:08:46,392 --> 00:08:47,916 What's the problem? 110 00:08:48,027 --> 00:08:50,689 There's no problem, l just asked what ceremony. 111 00:08:52,231 --> 00:08:53,357 What's the event taking place here? 112 00:08:53,566 --> 00:08:55,397 -Don't you know? -l do know. 113 00:08:55,501 --> 00:08:57,332 So why are you asking me? 114 00:09:00,373 --> 00:09:02,136 What did you say your name was? 115 00:09:04,477 --> 00:09:07,571 -Sir? -Explain the problem. 116 00:09:07,680 --> 00:09:10,240 l was checked by security at the main entrance... 117 00:09:10,349 --> 00:09:13,750 Sir, l'm just doing my job. No need to get angry. 118 00:09:13,853 --> 00:09:15,480 Mister... 119 00:09:15,588 --> 00:09:17,215 Professor Eliezer Shkolnik. 120 00:09:17,690 --> 00:09:20,318 -Are you a member of the Academy? -No. 121 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:23,224 So what is your connection to the event? 122 00:09:29,368 --> 00:09:30,630 ls everything all right? 123 00:09:30,736 --> 00:09:32,795 -Do you know him? -Of course! 124 00:09:33,673 --> 00:09:36,437 -ls there a problem? -No, sir. We're fine. Thank you. 125 00:09:37,276 --> 00:09:39,301 -Are you sure? -Yes. Thank you. 126 00:09:42,615 --> 00:09:44,640 Okay, sir, you may go in. Please. 127 00:09:47,119 --> 00:09:48,609 -Please, sir. -No. 128 00:09:50,022 --> 00:09:51,853 Finish your procedure. 129 00:09:52,491 --> 00:09:54,254 lf you think l'm suspicious 130 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:57,352 and that l shouldn't be here, finish the procedure. 131 00:09:57,530 --> 00:10:00,522 Call one of your superiors. l'll wait here patiently. 132 00:10:00,633 --> 00:10:02,965 Call for some backup. Maybe a bomb squad? 133 00:10:03,069 --> 00:10:05,401 Sir, don't get mad. lt's not personal. 134 00:10:05,605 --> 00:10:09,473 Anyone passing the main gate should wear a wristband. 135 00:10:09,809 --> 00:10:11,140 You don't have one. 136 00:10:11,877 --> 00:10:13,708 So l just made an inquiry. 137 00:10:14,180 --> 00:10:16,341 l'm sorry if l inconvenienced you. 138 00:10:19,719 --> 00:10:21,084 Please, sir. 139 00:10:37,870 --> 00:10:39,030 Now you're the ideologist. 140 00:10:40,206 --> 00:10:42,003 You're not talking like a researcher. 141 00:10:42,208 --> 00:10:46,440 Nonsense! Boyarin does that all day. 142 00:10:46,545 --> 00:10:49,981 He is trying to derive the anthropology from the hermeneutics. 143 00:10:50,082 --> 00:10:52,710 You missed the point. 144 00:10:52,885 --> 00:10:55,911 The whole of Boyarin's corpus... 145 00:10:56,555 --> 00:11:01,515 Historically, the discourse about gender and sexuality 146 00:11:01,627 --> 00:11:03,117 is metaphoric. 147 00:11:03,229 --> 00:11:07,097 What's the connection between body technique and commentary practices? 148 00:11:07,199 --> 00:11:09,531 lt's like defeminizing the Jewish male. 149 00:11:09,735 --> 00:11:12,533 lt's an anti-colonialist argument! 150 00:11:12,638 --> 00:11:14,572 What are you talking about? 151 00:11:14,674 --> 00:11:20,203 Basically, he's trying to say this man is a sissy 152 00:11:20,312 --> 00:11:23,042 as opposed to the virile, strong Roman man 153 00:11:23,149 --> 00:11:25,913 with his iron helmet and cleated boots. 154 00:11:26,152 --> 00:11:31,556 He claims that Zionism changed the Jewish man 155 00:11:31,657 --> 00:11:34,785 from a feminine man to a macho man, 156 00:11:34,894 --> 00:11:38,386 which means the destruction of Jewish history... 157 00:11:41,434 --> 00:11:44,062 Come closer together, please. 158 00:11:45,738 --> 00:11:47,569 A bit more. 159 00:11:52,011 --> 00:11:54,377 And, only if you wish, you may smile. 160 00:12:16,969 --> 00:12:22,601 -Are you holding? -l can manage. 161 00:12:34,353 --> 00:12:37,186 Kids, do you have enough room? Shall l move the seat? 162 00:12:37,289 --> 00:12:38,916 We're fine, don't worry. 163 00:12:39,024 --> 00:12:40,685 Dad, are you getting in? 164 00:12:41,260 --> 00:12:42,625 l'll walk. 165 00:12:43,028 --> 00:12:45,963 There's plenty of room. Josh, make room for Grandpa. 166 00:12:46,232 --> 00:12:47,995 l'd rather walk. 167 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:49,667 Seriously, you're not getting in? 168 00:12:49,869 --> 00:12:53,236 l need to stretch my legs after all this sitting. l'll walk. 169 00:12:53,372 --> 00:12:54,896 -Got your keys? -Yes. 170 00:12:56,342 --> 00:12:57,934 Josh, shut the door. 171 00:13:03,015 --> 00:13:06,109 Why isn't Grandpa a member of the Academy of Sciences? 172 00:14:02,074 --> 00:14:03,268 Eliezer. 173 00:14:06,512 --> 00:14:07,979 Congratulations. 174 00:14:08,914 --> 00:14:10,882 Your son is doing well. 175 00:15:44,843 --> 00:15:48,040 A few things worth knowing about Eliezer Shkolnik. 176 00:15:51,784 --> 00:15:53,012 1 . His research. 177 00:15:53,118 --> 00:15:54,642 Eliezer Shkolnik came up with a revolutionary argument. 178 00:15:54,787 --> 00:15:59,952 A version of the Jerusalem Talmud circulated in Europe in the Middle Ages, 179 00:16:00,059 --> 00:16:02,789 different from the version we have today. 180 00:16:03,295 --> 00:16:06,924 He proposed this after discovering small differences between 181 00:16:07,066 --> 00:16:11,662 the version we have and the text quoted by the Sages of the time. 182 00:16:11,904 --> 00:16:16,739 Understand, this means hundreds, thousands of books, 183 00:16:16,909 --> 00:16:20,845 each having several versions of manuscripts. 184 00:16:21,313 --> 00:16:24,805 Eliezer Shkolnik analyzed all of them, for almost 30 years. 185 00:16:25,184 --> 00:16:28,551 A huge undertaking! With a lot of audacity. 186 00:16:28,988 --> 00:16:34,051 Then, a month before he was about to publish this monumental work, 187 00:16:34,159 --> 00:16:35,854 his life's project, 188 00:16:35,961 --> 00:16:38,657 another scholar, Professor Yehuda Grossman, 189 00:16:38,831 --> 00:16:44,133 by chance, found inside the bindings of books at an Italian monastery, 190 00:16:44,470 --> 00:16:47,337 the manuscript of that version of the Jerusalem Talmud. 191 00:16:47,539 --> 00:16:51,031 The original that was used by the European Sages. 192 00:16:52,044 --> 00:16:55,639 And so made all of Shkolnik's work unnecessary. 193 00:16:56,281 --> 00:17:01,218 lt actually proved Shkolnik's thesis, but Grossman published it before him. 194 00:17:13,866 --> 00:17:17,632 2. For 40 years, every day, 195 00:17:19,038 --> 00:17:21,438 he walks 196 00:17:21,907 --> 00:17:28,073 from his home to the National Library, on a fixed route. 197 00:17:29,681 --> 00:17:33,014 ln any weather. 198 00:17:33,852 --> 00:17:38,448 A momentary lapse of concentration of the copyist, 199 00:17:38,557 --> 00:17:41,651 whose eye skips from one word to another, 200 00:17:41,994 --> 00:17:45,930 is called ''homoeoteleuton.'' 201 00:17:46,799 --> 00:17:50,997 3. He refused to cancel his annual course, 202 00:17:53,138 --> 00:17:58,337 even though only one student signed up for it. 203 00:18:02,414 --> 00:18:06,316 We can learn from this that hospitality is more important than the Sabbath? 204 00:18:06,552 --> 00:18:08,315 4. His favorite line is: 205 00:18:08,487 --> 00:18:10,011 This is a very nice idea. 206 00:18:10,456 --> 00:18:11,684 Very nice. 207 00:18:12,057 --> 00:18:13,149 But wrong. 208 00:18:14,059 --> 00:18:16,550 My father says that this is what Levinas says. 209 00:18:17,930 --> 00:18:19,363 His second favorite line is: 210 00:18:19,465 --> 00:18:20,432 Yes. 211 00:18:20,966 --> 00:18:23,526 One cannot draw evidence from fools. 212 00:18:25,104 --> 00:18:27,629 The truth is, in reality, 213 00:18:28,674 --> 00:18:30,039 nothing is nice. 214 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:35,640 Professor Eliezer Shkolnik 215 00:18:35,747 --> 00:18:37,977 5. For 16 consecutive years, 216 00:18:38,083 --> 00:18:40,881 he was submitted as a candidate for the lsrael Prize. 217 00:18:49,428 --> 00:18:53,421 ln all these years, others were found more worthy. 218 00:19:00,139 --> 00:19:03,631 6. His life's pride is the footnote 219 00:19:05,310 --> 00:19:07,540 dedicated to him by Y.N. Feinstein 220 00:19:09,515 --> 00:19:11,278 in his monumental book. 221 00:19:11,617 --> 00:19:14,085 lntroduction to Text Versions of Talmudic Literature 222 00:19:22,261 --> 00:19:28,200 Brought to my attention by my friend and student, E. Shkolnik. 223 00:19:42,648 --> 00:19:44,479 -Didn't l tell you this story? -No. 224 00:19:44,716 --> 00:19:45,944 lt was extreme. 225 00:19:46,618 --> 00:19:48,347 He forced me to write ''teacher.'' 226 00:19:48,453 --> 00:19:50,887 Grabbed my hand and crushed it onto the page. 227 00:19:53,025 --> 00:19:56,791 lt hurt for a week! Didn't l tell you? 228 00:19:57,362 --> 00:20:00,058 Why wouldn't he let you write ''Talmudic lecturer'' or ''researcher''? 229 00:20:01,066 --> 00:20:05,332 He resented a third grade teacher asking about his profession. 230 00:20:05,571 --> 00:20:08,301 He's a philologist, but who knows what that is? 231 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:11,502 ln my mind, he was an important man, 232 00:20:12,678 --> 00:20:14,612 a kind of world expert. 233 00:20:15,113 --> 00:20:17,513 There were maybe four people in the world 234 00:20:17,749 --> 00:20:20,217 who understood his work, and when his research was finished, 235 00:20:20,385 --> 00:20:23,479 the world would know the great scholar he is. 236 00:20:24,156 --> 00:20:27,557 But in the meantime no one knew this but me. 237 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:32,257 l cried all the way to school. l didn't submit the form. 238 00:20:33,599 --> 00:20:35,624 That's the story you chose to tell? 239 00:20:35,734 --> 00:20:37,929 l made him look good. Modest, no? 240 00:20:42,174 --> 00:20:46,008 lt's as if Josh would stand up in front of all your friends 241 00:20:46,111 --> 00:20:48,602 and tell them what a dedicated father you are 242 00:20:48,714 --> 00:20:51,683 because you ''encouraged'' him to do his SAT's at age 1 4. 243 00:20:51,984 --> 00:20:53,576 l did encourage him. 244 00:20:54,052 --> 00:20:55,451 You tortured him. 245 00:20:55,554 --> 00:20:59,046 Otherwise he would've ended up with nothing. 246 00:20:59,258 --> 00:21:01,852 This way, he can choose to do nothing, but he has a choice. 247 00:21:03,562 --> 00:21:04,529 Whatever you say. 248 00:21:09,134 --> 00:21:11,898 A few things worth knowing about Uriel Shkolnik. 249 00:21:13,205 --> 00:21:14,172 1 . 250 00:21:14,940 --> 00:21:16,908 On the night of Shavuot, he manages to deliver 6 lectures 251 00:21:17,009 --> 00:21:19,204 on various subjects all over the city. 252 00:21:19,411 --> 00:21:22,209 An interesting anecdote about Gedaliahu Alon 253 00:21:22,314 --> 00:21:25,511 is that he changed his name to Alon, because in Greek... 254 00:21:25,717 --> 00:21:27,378 To what can we compare this? 255 00:21:27,486 --> 00:21:30,478 l once heard a nice idea... 256 00:21:30,589 --> 00:21:34,025 lf we neutralize the classic commentary of the text... 257 00:21:34,126 --> 00:21:37,391 The deep core of the idea... 258 00:21:37,496 --> 00:21:40,988 l'll jump to the end of the paragraph... 259 00:21:43,568 --> 00:21:48,562 ''May all seedlings coming from you be like you.'' 260 00:21:49,608 --> 00:21:50,768 2. 261 00:21:50,876 --> 00:21:53,242 Let me tell you something my father once told me. 262 00:21:53,345 --> 00:21:54,334 Great Lecturer 263 00:21:54,446 --> 00:21:58,678 There are many correct things in your paper, and many new things. 264 00:21:59,084 --> 00:22:00,051 Challenging and fun 265 00:22:00,252 --> 00:22:01,241 Thank you. 266 00:22:01,453 --> 00:22:04,286 The problem is that the new things are not correct. 267 00:22:04,389 --> 00:22:07,187 And the correct things aren't new. 268 00:22:09,528 --> 00:22:11,257 But that's not necessarily bad. 269 00:22:12,497 --> 00:22:13,759 Perfect! 270 00:22:15,267 --> 00:22:17,827 3. The birth of their younger daughter. 271 00:22:17,936 --> 00:22:19,062 l love hearing you speak. 272 00:22:19,771 --> 00:22:23,707 No matter the topic, it always puts things in their place. 273 00:22:24,142 --> 00:22:26,303 Things l had no opinion about 274 00:22:26,411 --> 00:22:29,778 coming out of your mouth, l immediately agree. 275 00:22:34,186 --> 00:22:35,175 4. 276 00:22:35,287 --> 00:22:38,484 ln many ways, life in a couple is like a tree. 277 00:22:38,790 --> 00:22:41,452 A few things people say behind his back. 278 00:22:41,727 --> 00:22:45,458 You're better off on his good side. 279 00:22:45,897 --> 00:22:48,161 lt's not that he'll persecute you, 280 00:22:48,367 --> 00:22:51,302 but if you're not on the same page as him, 281 00:22:51,970 --> 00:22:54,996 you'll soon find yourself out of the department. 282 00:22:55,407 --> 00:22:59,207 He expects a kind of constant, mild flattery. 283 00:22:59,444 --> 00:23:01,309 Congratulations to the young couple. 284 00:23:02,681 --> 00:23:04,046 A new home in lsrael! 285 00:23:05,951 --> 00:23:06,918 5. 286 00:23:15,327 --> 00:23:18,091 Your father discovered something very important today. 287 00:23:18,196 --> 00:23:19,993 You can't disturb him now. 288 00:23:26,004 --> 00:23:29,132 The moment he decided to become a Talmud scholar. 289 00:23:32,778 --> 00:23:36,612 The happiest day in the life of Professor Shkolnik. 290 00:23:42,387 --> 00:23:43,786 ln memory of Professor Menachem Stern. 291 00:23:43,889 --> 00:23:45,789 Murdered here on his way to the National Library. 292 00:24:05,377 --> 00:24:06,605 Speaking. 293 00:24:10,816 --> 00:24:12,249 Concerning? 294 00:24:45,450 --> 00:24:47,042 Seriously? Publish it, like this? 295 00:24:47,419 --> 00:24:49,284 You can't be stuck with it for 80 years. 296 00:24:49,488 --> 00:24:52,013 Stay in motion all the time, or you fall! 297 00:24:56,261 --> 00:24:57,523 Are you sure? 298 00:24:57,629 --> 00:25:01,429 lt means that Eldad and Meidad are half-brothers to Moses. Radical! 299 00:25:01,633 --> 00:25:03,032 l'm never sure. 300 00:25:05,403 --> 00:25:06,802 Yes! 301 00:25:10,442 --> 00:25:12,501 Good morning, sir. Please. 302 00:25:14,079 --> 00:25:15,808 Please, sir. You can pass. 303 00:26:41,399 --> 00:26:43,367 Someone took my bag and my clothes. 304 00:26:43,969 --> 00:26:46,199 Didn't you leave them in the other room? 305 00:26:59,217 --> 00:27:01,981 My bag was stolen and my clothes. 306 00:27:03,254 --> 00:27:05,745 My wallet, my cell phone. 307 00:27:06,191 --> 00:27:08,022 My watch, my glasses. 308 00:27:08,493 --> 00:27:10,552 Maybe someone moved them? 309 00:27:10,862 --> 00:27:13,194 Why would anyone move my clothes? 310 00:27:15,433 --> 00:27:17,628 Shall l go talk to the guard? 311 00:27:18,470 --> 00:27:20,529 No, no, it's okay. 312 00:27:26,444 --> 00:27:29,004 Want to borrow my clothes, maybe? 313 00:27:46,164 --> 00:27:47,597 Sarah, hi. 314 00:27:47,799 --> 00:27:50,097 This is our lost and found. 315 00:28:32,343 --> 00:28:33,640 Good morning. 316 00:29:39,978 --> 00:29:43,277 lt was like he was someone else, sitting there. Not him. 317 00:29:43,448 --> 00:29:45,177 And who is this woman? 318 00:29:45,383 --> 00:29:47,908 Why in a remote park? Alone? 319 00:29:49,020 --> 00:29:50,009 Scary! 320 00:30:50,815 --> 00:30:52,214 ...you home? 321 00:30:52,684 --> 00:30:54,117 Eliezer! 322 00:31:11,169 --> 00:31:12,693 l was looking for you. 323 00:31:14,038 --> 00:31:16,233 -Did you eat lunch? -Not yet. 324 00:31:17,575 --> 00:31:19,202 Did something happen? 325 00:31:19,377 --> 00:31:22,540 l had a call from the Education Minister's office today. 326 00:31:24,449 --> 00:31:27,680 They've decided to give me the lsrael Prize this year. 327 00:31:47,472 --> 00:31:50,373 -l just heard. Congratulations! -Thanks. 328 00:31:50,575 --> 00:31:52,805 -Better late than never. -lncredible, isn't it? 329 00:31:53,678 --> 00:31:55,270 Did you speak to him? ls he ecstatic? 330 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,212 My mother says he's in shock. 331 00:31:58,316 --> 00:32:00,409 You're the one who seems in shock. 332 00:32:00,952 --> 00:32:02,283 Can you believe it? 333 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,512 He'd given up. He'd been passed up for 20 years. 334 00:32:06,491 --> 00:32:08,789 The things he said about this prize! 335 00:32:08,893 --> 00:32:11,361 For years he's been saying all the laureates are unworthy. 336 00:32:11,562 --> 00:32:13,689 One's a dilettante, another, an historic accident, 337 00:32:13,798 --> 00:32:15,493 the third, a folklorist. 338 00:32:16,100 --> 00:32:18,898 His whole personality has to reboot now. 339 00:32:19,437 --> 00:32:21,268 Who was on the committee? 340 00:32:21,372 --> 00:32:24,671 lt's strange. l assume Grossman's the chairman. 341 00:32:24,842 --> 00:32:26,810 Did he suddenly grow a heart? 342 00:32:27,011 --> 00:32:29,571 Your father's a great man, no need for a heart to get that. 343 00:32:30,381 --> 00:32:31,575 Just common sense. 344 00:32:31,683 --> 00:32:34,550 He's the most important researcher of our generation. 345 00:32:34,686 --> 00:32:35,653 Really. 346 00:32:35,753 --> 00:32:37,721 He has the integrity no longer found in the department. 347 00:32:37,822 --> 00:32:39,312 Or elsewhere, for that matter. 348 00:32:49,133 --> 00:32:54,628 My grandmother fled and hid in the woods. 349 00:32:55,506 --> 00:32:59,499 My grandfather stayed with Franz Josef's soldiers. 350 00:32:59,610 --> 00:33:03,910 The war dragged on and they waited. 351 00:33:07,385 --> 00:33:09,945 ln the end, the Cossacks retreated. 352 00:33:20,598 --> 00:33:22,998 -I'm really happy for him. -I know. 353 00:33:23,334 --> 00:33:24,733 He deserves it. 354 00:33:26,971 --> 00:33:28,768 But he's so weird! 355 00:33:29,307 --> 00:33:32,037 When l hugged him today, l barely recognized him. 356 00:33:32,210 --> 00:33:33,177 His smell... 357 00:33:34,012 --> 00:33:36,105 It was the smell of a stranger. 358 00:33:38,216 --> 00:33:40,411 I've no idea who this man is. 359 00:33:40,985 --> 00:33:42,316 And he's my father. 360 00:33:43,321 --> 00:33:45,881 It was very moving to see him like this. 361 00:33:46,290 --> 00:33:49,487 Like an anorexic girl who suddenly begins to eat. 362 00:33:50,094 --> 00:33:51,061 He deserves it. 363 00:33:57,201 --> 00:33:59,829 But that image of him with that woman... 364 00:34:00,038 --> 00:34:01,300 It's inconceivable! 365 00:34:01,506 --> 00:34:03,633 Do you really think there's a woman? 366 00:34:04,642 --> 00:34:06,439 l don't know. Anything's possible. 367 00:34:06,611 --> 00:34:08,636 lf he does, it's hilarious, no? 368 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:10,638 Where does he get the courage? 369 00:34:10,848 --> 00:34:12,713 What's courage got to do with it? 370 00:34:13,184 --> 00:34:18,121 lt takes a lot of courage to risk everything for a momentary passion. 371 00:34:18,689 --> 00:34:20,384 Maybe it's not momentary? 372 00:34:20,491 --> 00:34:23,255 Still. He has a lot to lose. 373 00:34:28,099 --> 00:34:31,694 So that's why you don't cheat on me? Too much to lose? 374 00:34:33,471 --> 00:34:35,166 Who said l don't? 375 00:34:36,174 --> 00:34:37,402 You don't. 376 00:34:39,811 --> 00:34:41,608 How can you be so sure? 377 00:34:42,647 --> 00:34:44,046 You're a coward. 378 00:34:48,386 --> 00:34:50,786 So my father is brave and l'm a coward. 379 00:34:51,155 --> 00:34:55,455 Your father is true to himself and is willing to pay the price. 380 00:34:56,194 --> 00:34:59,925 You're a nice guy who's afraid of confrontation. 381 00:35:00,998 --> 00:35:02,192 Even with me. 382 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:04,768 What are you saying? 383 00:35:05,203 --> 00:35:06,363 l don't understand. 384 00:35:06,637 --> 00:35:09,470 You want me to confront you? l can do that. 385 00:35:09,574 --> 00:35:12,372 No. l'm glad you don't want to break up our family. 386 00:35:12,477 --> 00:35:15,469 lt's not out of fidelity, but out of fear. 387 00:35:17,849 --> 00:35:19,146 l love you. 388 00:35:19,383 --> 00:35:20,350 l really do. 389 00:35:21,486 --> 00:35:22,783 l know. 390 00:35:27,158 --> 00:35:29,422 So, what's your diagnosis? 391 00:35:30,862 --> 00:35:32,261 I don't know yet. 392 00:35:33,965 --> 00:35:35,990 But if you'd like to get a nurse to assist me in here, 393 00:35:36,100 --> 00:35:37,397 I'm all for it. 394 00:35:38,636 --> 00:35:42,629 MUTE 395 00:35:59,423 --> 00:36:03,416 ''...winners of the lsrael Prize in Jewish Sciences and Rabbinical Literature.'' 396 00:36:03,561 --> 00:36:04,755 That will annoy him. 397 00:36:04,896 --> 00:36:09,196 ''Professor Shmuel Tarshish for his achievements in the study of Aggadah, 398 00:36:09,300 --> 00:36:11,291 ''Professor Eliezer Shkolnik for his contribution 399 00:36:11,402 --> 00:36:13,302 ''to the study of Talmud text versions. '' 400 00:36:23,214 --> 00:36:24,772 -That's it? -That's it. 401 00:36:26,250 --> 00:36:29,515 They didn't quote the considerations? Say who was on the committee? 402 00:37:09,227 --> 00:37:11,991 Professor Eliezer Shkolnik for his contribution 403 00:37:12,096 --> 00:37:14,826 to the study of Talmud text versions. 404 00:37:27,745 --> 00:37:29,542 Miscellaneous 405 00:37:45,896 --> 00:37:51,664 Footnote 406 00:37:51,836 --> 00:37:53,997 -Yes, good morning. -Professor Shkolnik? 407 00:37:54,105 --> 00:37:56,232 -Uriel. -Shoshi from National Radio. 408 00:37:56,340 --> 00:37:58,672 It's about the item on the news. 409 00:37:59,043 --> 00:38:00,476 That's my father, not me. 410 00:38:00,578 --> 00:38:03,638 I know, but you could explain his work, 411 00:38:03,748 --> 00:38:06,774 congratulate him on the air, if you like, but that's... 412 00:38:07,685 --> 00:38:10,552 Thank you, but l must ask you to leave me out of it. 413 00:38:11,022 --> 00:38:13,149 Call him, interview him. 414 00:38:13,324 --> 00:38:15,884 He won't answer. Do you have his mobile? 415 00:38:16,494 --> 00:38:19,224 No, sorry. l must get off the line. Sorry. 416 00:38:19,630 --> 00:38:21,723 -Yes, good morning. -Uriel? 417 00:38:21,866 --> 00:38:24,266 -That's me. -Yonah Salomon. 418 00:38:24,568 --> 00:38:26,035 Yonah Salomon. 419 00:38:26,237 --> 00:38:29,695 I'm the advisor to the Education Minister for the Israel Prize. 420 00:38:30,541 --> 00:38:33,032 Damn call waiting! They're attacking my phone! 421 00:38:33,144 --> 00:38:37,046 I'm sorry to disturb you, but we must meet with you urgently. 422 00:38:37,148 --> 00:38:38,274 Who's ''we''? 423 00:38:38,649 --> 00:38:41,777 Me and the supervisor of the Israel Prize. 424 00:38:41,886 --> 00:38:43,148 l didn't hear you. 425 00:38:43,254 --> 00:38:47,247 Can you come over in an hour? This is not for the phone. 426 00:38:47,458 --> 00:38:49,483 Now l'm curious! 427 00:38:49,694 --> 00:38:51,184 At least tell me what this is about. 428 00:38:51,295 --> 00:38:55,163 We'll explain everything. I'll be in Sarah Fodor's room. 429 00:38:55,366 --> 00:38:57,994 Just tell me everything's all right. You're making me nervous. 430 00:38:58,169 --> 00:39:00,694 It will be fine, but now it's a bit of a mess. 431 00:39:00,805 --> 00:39:03,239 Yonah, come on, l'm not a child. 432 00:39:03,441 --> 00:39:05,773 Did you find out my father's a serial killer? 433 00:39:05,976 --> 00:39:09,309 Did he offend Ethiopians? Someone's not happy with his winning? 434 00:39:09,413 --> 00:39:11,142 Okay, so, he has enemies. So what? 435 00:39:11,349 --> 00:39:12,782 Save your speculations. 436 00:39:12,883 --> 00:39:15,010 See you in an hour? Okay? 437 00:39:16,420 --> 00:39:17,387 Okay. 438 00:39:26,197 --> 00:39:27,960 Mother 439 00:39:28,065 --> 00:39:29,054 lgnore 440 00:39:30,267 --> 00:39:31,894 Thanks for the ride. 441 00:39:34,472 --> 00:39:38,169 Wait, do you have food? Water? 442 00:39:38,275 --> 00:39:39,242 Yes, yes. 443 00:39:39,343 --> 00:39:40,469 A hat? 444 00:39:45,282 --> 00:39:46,715 Will you be okay? 445 00:39:46,817 --> 00:39:48,910 l'll be fine, don't worry. 446 00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:52,021 -When will you be back? -Thursday or Friday. 447 00:39:52,189 --> 00:39:54,851 l'm not taking my cell phone, so tell Mom not to worry. 448 00:40:21,118 --> 00:40:23,746 Ministry of Education 449 00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:37,895 Glad you could make it. 450 00:40:38,002 --> 00:40:40,402 Can you bring a chair from the other room? 451 00:41:00,724 --> 00:41:03,784 Okay, let's make quick introductions. 452 00:41:03,894 --> 00:41:06,829 l'm Yonah, advisor to the Minister for the lsrael Prize. 453 00:41:06,931 --> 00:41:09,593 Ms. Sarah Fodor, head of the lsrael Prize Division. 454 00:41:09,700 --> 00:41:12,498 Dvir Oded, legal advisor. 455 00:41:12,603 --> 00:41:14,764 l assume you know the members of the committee. 456 00:41:14,872 --> 00:41:17,739 -l do. -Professor Yehuda Grossman, chairman, 457 00:41:17,842 --> 00:41:19,309 Professor Adiel Glass, 458 00:41:19,410 --> 00:41:21,537 and Professor Daniel Herman. 459 00:41:22,012 --> 00:41:24,947 -Would you like a drink? -No, thanks. l'm fine. 460 00:41:25,583 --> 00:41:27,050 So shall we begin? 461 00:41:28,118 --> 00:41:32,054 You must be wondering why we called you over on such short notice. 462 00:41:32,156 --> 00:41:34,989 l won't tell you what scenarios went through my head. 463 00:41:35,092 --> 00:41:37,390 l am sure you didn't imagine this one. 464 00:41:37,495 --> 00:41:39,929 So, please, put me out of my misery. 465 00:41:40,030 --> 00:41:42,294 Could we maybe close the door? 466 00:42:01,318 --> 00:42:02,580 Thank you. 467 00:42:04,788 --> 00:42:08,554 Basically, we have good news and bad news. 468 00:42:08,659 --> 00:42:11,628 -Which would you like first? -Could we quit playing games? 469 00:42:13,130 --> 00:42:16,759 The bad news is that, unfortunately, your father 470 00:42:17,134 --> 00:42:19,534 will not receive the lsrael Prize this year. 471 00:42:20,004 --> 00:42:22,268 Before you go on, l must stop you. 472 00:42:22,373 --> 00:42:25,433 You should speak to my father, not to me. 473 00:42:25,543 --> 00:42:28,034 lf something is getting in the way of this prize, 474 00:42:28,145 --> 00:42:31,546 l'm not the one to discuss it with. 475 00:42:31,649 --> 00:42:35,915 This brings me to the good news. 476 00:42:36,020 --> 00:42:37,988 There is no possible good news now. 477 00:42:38,088 --> 00:42:41,251 You will be receiving the lsrael Prize this year. 478 00:42:43,260 --> 00:42:44,557 Excuse me? 479 00:42:48,098 --> 00:42:50,532 We're still trying to figure out how this mistake happened, 480 00:42:50,634 --> 00:42:54,764 but it appears to have been the assistant in the Minister's office. 481 00:42:55,072 --> 00:42:57,700 She called your father instead of you, 482 00:42:57,808 --> 00:43:01,403 and the Minister congratulated him, thinking she was talking to you. 483 00:43:02,980 --> 00:43:07,644 This has never happened to us, so the legal advisor is here 484 00:43:07,751 --> 00:43:11,687 to advise us how to proceed, given this new situation. 485 00:43:11,889 --> 00:43:13,516 From here on. 486 00:43:17,127 --> 00:43:18,822 Let me get this straight. 487 00:43:19,163 --> 00:43:22,326 You called my father by mistake? 488 00:43:23,300 --> 00:43:26,963 The Minister has a conversation with him, thinking she's talking to me? 489 00:43:27,171 --> 00:43:28,570 According to our investigation, that's what happened. 490 00:43:31,809 --> 00:43:34,505 l have never heard anything so idiotic! 491 00:43:35,079 --> 00:43:37,912 The consequences are terrible. You realize that? 492 00:43:38,115 --> 00:43:43,917 That's why we wanted to talk to you about the best course of action from here on. 493 00:43:45,189 --> 00:43:48,886 l don't understand how they confused our phone numbers, 494 00:43:49,093 --> 00:43:52,790 and didn't make sure before they put the Minister on the line. 495 00:43:53,063 --> 00:43:56,157 The assistant claims she first called the university 496 00:43:56,266 --> 00:43:58,359 and asked to speak to Professor Shkolnik. 497 00:43:58,569 --> 00:44:01,629 She can't remember if she mentioned a first name. 498 00:44:01,739 --> 00:44:04,299 Since you weren't there, she asked for your cell number 499 00:44:04,408 --> 00:44:06,638 and dialed the number she was given. 500 00:44:06,877 --> 00:44:10,210 Both your first names start with the same letter. 501 00:44:10,314 --> 00:44:12,373 Theoretically, this mistake is understandable. 502 00:44:12,483 --> 00:44:14,314 lt's never happened before. 503 00:44:14,418 --> 00:44:16,886 What about the press release? Don't you send a letter? 504 00:44:16,987 --> 00:44:19,649 The letter was mailed to you, not to your father. 505 00:44:19,757 --> 00:44:21,884 You should receive it today. 506 00:44:22,092 --> 00:44:23,821 We did not send out a press release. 507 00:44:23,994 --> 00:44:25,723 There was an announcement in the paper. 508 00:44:25,829 --> 00:44:29,094 The reporter must have heard about it. 509 00:44:29,199 --> 00:44:32,362 We're still trying to figure out how the reporter got the information. 510 00:44:32,469 --> 00:44:36,633 Anyone can see that this is not our usual phrasing. 511 00:44:49,653 --> 00:44:51,177 l... 512 00:44:54,158 --> 00:44:56,683 l need a moment to think. Excuse me. 513 00:44:56,794 --> 00:44:58,261 -l'm sorry. -Professor Shkolnik. 514 00:44:58,362 --> 00:45:01,490 What happened here is a disaster. You have no idea. 515 00:45:01,598 --> 00:45:05,967 Professor Shkolnik, l must ask you not to mention this to anyone. 516 00:45:06,403 --> 00:45:08,871 lt would be best to keep discussing this here. 517 00:45:08,972 --> 00:45:11,406 Give him a moment to calm down outside. 518 00:45:11,542 --> 00:45:13,271 You won't call anyone, will you? 519 00:45:59,923 --> 00:46:02,187 l don't know how to react to this mistake 520 00:46:02,292 --> 00:46:04,954 other than say it's too late to turn back. 521 00:46:05,129 --> 00:46:07,063 You told my father he's the recipient of the prize. 522 00:46:07,164 --> 00:46:08,324 You can't take it back. 523 00:46:08,966 --> 00:46:12,697 How did l become a candidate? 524 00:46:12,803 --> 00:46:16,569 ln principle, l asked anyone concerned not to recommend me 525 00:46:16,673 --> 00:46:17,970 as long as my father is a candidate. 526 00:46:18,175 --> 00:46:21,474 And he's been a candidate for quite some years, l know it, 527 00:46:21,578 --> 00:46:23,808 because l'm the one who makes sure to submit him every time. 528 00:46:24,481 --> 00:46:26,449 l recommended you. 529 00:46:26,984 --> 00:46:31,683 According to the regulations, the judges may add candidates. 530 00:46:32,122 --> 00:46:34,818 And l recommended you. 531 00:46:35,926 --> 00:46:42,855 At the meeting, each of us wrote down the name he preferred 532 00:46:43,100 --> 00:46:45,568 from the list of candidates. 533 00:46:45,669 --> 00:46:50,129 And everyone, unanimously, chose you. 534 00:46:51,608 --> 00:46:56,136 Everyone thinks the prize should go to you this year. 535 00:47:01,785 --> 00:47:03,810 What a mess! 536 00:47:08,525 --> 00:47:10,322 l'd like, if you please, 537 00:47:10,427 --> 00:47:12,861 to focus on the legal aspects. 538 00:47:14,064 --> 00:47:15,793 There is no way to switch the winner. 539 00:47:17,434 --> 00:47:20,460 The point on which we wished to consult with you 540 00:47:20,571 --> 00:47:24,234 is the best way to break the news to your father. 541 00:47:24,341 --> 00:47:28,175 The legal aspects are all very well, 542 00:47:28,278 --> 00:47:29,905 but we're talking about life and death. 543 00:47:30,013 --> 00:47:32,481 My father has been passed over for 20 years! 544 00:47:32,583 --> 00:47:34,676 Finally, when he thinks he's getting the prize... 545 00:47:34,785 --> 00:47:36,685 You can't take it away from him. lt'll kill him. 546 00:47:36,987 --> 00:47:38,648 l'm not joking here. lt will kill him. 547 00:47:38,755 --> 00:47:41,553 And he deserves it, damn it! 548 00:47:41,658 --> 00:47:43,421 -Someone other than me has to say it. -Enough! 549 00:47:48,532 --> 00:47:51,000 This mistake shouldn't have happened, 550 00:47:51,568 --> 00:47:55,060 but once it did, it must be made right, not made worse. 551 00:47:56,607 --> 00:48:01,306 We're not discussing whether Eliezer Shkolnik is worthy of the lsrael Prize. 552 00:48:01,411 --> 00:48:03,606 So, as chairman, what do you propose? 553 00:48:04,715 --> 00:48:08,276 The Minister should invite Eliezer Shkolnik, today, 554 00:48:08,986 --> 00:48:11,420 to apologize for the mistake. 555 00:48:12,522 --> 00:48:15,650 And to congratulate him upon his son receiving the prize. 556 00:48:15,759 --> 00:48:16,987 Pure and simple. 557 00:48:17,227 --> 00:48:19,286 Can you really see that happening? 558 00:48:19,396 --> 00:48:22,331 My father, arriving at the Minister's office, 559 00:48:23,300 --> 00:48:24,995 without knowing why, 560 00:48:25,335 --> 00:48:28,668 only to be told that they're taking the prize away from him? 561 00:48:28,772 --> 00:48:30,706 And what's more, that they're giving it to his son? 562 00:48:31,808 --> 00:48:33,070 l don't see it, 563 00:48:33,176 --> 00:48:34,609 because it won't happen. l won't let it happen! 564 00:48:34,811 --> 00:48:36,039 l'm declaring right now. 565 00:48:36,813 --> 00:48:39,646 lf the recipient's identity is changed, l'll resign as chairman. 566 00:48:39,850 --> 00:48:43,684 One moment, Professor Grossman. No need for ultimatums. 567 00:48:44,054 --> 00:48:47,182 Let's think about it with an open mind. Perhaps it's not such a bad solution. 568 00:48:47,291 --> 00:48:48,918 Eliezer Shkolnik has been a candidate for years. 569 00:48:49,126 --> 00:48:52,289 lf Uriel will give up the prize, why not consider giving it to his father? 570 00:48:52,496 --> 00:48:55,954 No, you'd be exposing the Ministry to a massive lawsuit. 571 00:48:56,533 --> 00:48:59,661 lf this ever comes out... Don't even think in that direction. 572 00:48:59,770 --> 00:49:02,068 Why would it come out? Whoever knows is in this room. 573 00:49:02,172 --> 00:49:06,472 We'll inform the Minister, but it's in our interests to keep it to ourselves. 574 00:49:06,576 --> 00:49:07,873 lt's not just a convenient solution. 575 00:49:07,978 --> 00:49:10,845 lt's the right thing to do, in every sense. 576 00:49:11,048 --> 00:49:13,073 lt's correcting a 20-year injustice. 577 00:49:13,583 --> 00:49:15,517 Absolutely not! 578 00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:21,014 Eliezer Shkolnik will not receive the lsrael Prize on my watch. 579 00:49:21,358 --> 00:49:23,724 l won't sign the judges' considerations. 580 00:49:25,762 --> 00:49:29,220 Uriel, l'm sorry. You know l appreciate your work. 581 00:49:29,433 --> 00:49:31,958 That is why l gave you the Prize. 582 00:49:32,235 --> 00:49:35,261 To you! Not to the entire Shkolnik family. 583 00:49:36,540 --> 00:49:39,771 You have no right to pass this honor on to your father. 584 00:49:39,876 --> 00:49:41,434 Any discussion of this is absurd. 585 00:49:44,381 --> 00:49:47,475 Look, the three of you have already won the lsrael Prize. 586 00:49:48,585 --> 00:49:52,783 You know what it's like, that feeling, on the day you're told that you've won. 587 00:49:53,824 --> 00:49:59,524 Especially if this is someone who, for years, felt ostracized and outcast. 588 00:49:59,629 --> 00:50:03,065 And then, all at once, the gates of the establishment open to him, 589 00:50:03,166 --> 00:50:04,997 and he's told, ''Welcome! 590 00:50:05,102 --> 00:50:08,833 ''You're accepted and appreciated.'' 591 00:50:10,307 --> 00:50:14,038 To take away the existential bliss that was given to him yesterday, 592 00:50:14,144 --> 00:50:15,771 it's bloodshed! 593 00:50:15,979 --> 00:50:21,007 lf we were to bestow the lsrael Prize out of compassion or pity, 594 00:50:21,118 --> 00:50:23,484 the entire lsrael Prize institution would look different. 595 00:50:23,720 --> 00:50:28,453 We are committed to a single, high and uncompromising standard. 596 00:50:28,658 --> 00:50:33,254 So tell me why my father doesn't deserve the lsrael Prize? 597 00:50:33,497 --> 00:50:36,193 Compared to others. Seriously, why not? 598 00:50:36,299 --> 00:50:39,132 How is he inferior to Hecht, or Goldberg, or Sheperman? 599 00:50:39,236 --> 00:50:41,534 Notice l'm not mentioning anyone here. 600 00:50:41,872 --> 00:50:45,239 l'm willing to argue why others are worthy. 601 00:50:45,609 --> 00:50:50,546 But l refuse to list the shortcomings l find in your father's research. 602 00:50:51,448 --> 00:50:52,779 Naturally! 603 00:50:53,083 --> 00:50:55,916 Because in the end, this enables you to hide the fact 604 00:50:56,019 --> 00:51:00,183 that the grudge you hold against him is personal, not professional. 605 00:51:00,290 --> 00:51:02,554 l don't know what you're implying. 606 00:51:02,659 --> 00:51:04,889 But, in any case, it isn't relevant to this discussion. 607 00:51:04,995 --> 00:51:07,156 Not implying. Saying explicitly! 608 00:51:07,397 --> 00:51:09,422 l think you hate my father. 609 00:51:09,833 --> 00:51:12,802 For years, you've been preventing his promotion, 610 00:51:12,903 --> 00:51:14,996 hiding manuscripts from him, 611 00:51:15,439 --> 00:51:18,499 blocking him at appointment committees. 612 00:51:18,708 --> 00:51:21,905 His closeness to Feinstein made you crazy when you were young, 613 00:51:22,012 --> 00:51:25,607 and, to this day, it distorts your judgment! 614 00:51:26,149 --> 00:51:29,607 You could have given him the Jerusalem manuscript you found. 615 00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:32,449 For 30 years he worked on it. lt's his. 616 00:51:32,689 --> 00:51:36,420 lt's his! lt's his life's work. His whole world. Everyone knew it. Everyone! 617 00:51:36,526 --> 00:51:39,586 But you had to publish it before him! 618 00:51:39,696 --> 00:51:40,924 Why? 619 00:51:41,031 --> 00:51:42,589 Why? 620 00:51:43,467 --> 00:51:47,198 You should've disqualified yourself when you knew he was a candidate. 621 00:51:47,304 --> 00:51:51,240 Everyone here knows this! Anyone with a hint of basic decency! 622 00:51:51,808 --> 00:51:55,107 My response to these grave allegations 623 00:51:55,212 --> 00:51:57,339 l'm forced to keep to myself. 624 00:51:59,883 --> 00:52:04,980 What l can reveal about your father, no son should hear. 625 00:52:05,856 --> 00:52:08,222 Which is why l ask you, 626 00:52:08,325 --> 00:52:12,318 stop pushing me and leave things as they are. 627 00:52:14,064 --> 00:52:18,398 But you don't deny the long, deep rivalry between you and my father? 628 00:52:19,870 --> 00:52:21,735 Why didn't you disqualify yourself? 629 00:52:21,838 --> 00:52:23,965 Come to think of it, 630 00:52:24,407 --> 00:52:27,535 l suspect you voted for me just to spite him. 631 00:52:27,911 --> 00:52:30,209 You knew it'd hurt him to see me receive the prize 632 00:52:30,313 --> 00:52:32,873 while he's a candidate. You knew that! 633 00:52:34,918 --> 00:52:37,079 l wish to end this meeting. 634 00:52:38,155 --> 00:52:39,986 Either my opinion is accepted, 635 00:52:40,090 --> 00:52:43,821 and the Minister tells Eliezer Shkolnik there's been a mistake, 636 00:52:44,461 --> 00:52:46,691 or l resign from this committee. 637 00:52:46,897 --> 00:52:50,628 And the reason for my resignation will inevitably come out. 638 00:52:51,801 --> 00:52:54,429 Things must be handled with transparency. 639 00:52:54,638 --> 00:52:57,505 Same transparency with which you run the Mishna Project? 640 00:52:57,707 --> 00:53:00,767 A project that allows you to decide who has access to manuscripts, 641 00:53:00,877 --> 00:53:03,004 and who doesn't? 642 00:53:03,113 --> 00:53:06,241 Or when you blocked the promotion of one of the people present here, 643 00:53:06,349 --> 00:53:08,340 and we all know who, 644 00:53:08,451 --> 00:53:12,751 because you were afraid he'd disprove your thesis about the Scrolls? 645 00:53:12,856 --> 00:53:17,190 Or the transparency with which you rejected Ariella Asher's PhD thesis 646 00:53:17,294 --> 00:53:20,525 when she was on her deathbed, a month before she died, 647 00:53:20,630 --> 00:53:23,622 while her family begged you to approve it! 648 00:53:23,833 --> 00:53:28,065 Twelve years of work, and you, with inconceivable cruelty, 649 00:53:28,171 --> 00:53:31,766 refused just because her advisor happened to be my father? 650 00:53:31,975 --> 00:53:34,034 So let's talk about transparency, Professor Grossman! 651 00:53:34,544 --> 00:53:36,136 l can talk to journalists, too. 652 00:53:36,346 --> 00:53:41,010 l would think you'd be the first here with an interest to lay low. 653 00:53:41,117 --> 00:53:43,551 -Let me out! -This meeting is not over! 654 00:53:44,187 --> 00:53:46,917 Your father's only achievement, the only one, 655 00:53:47,023 --> 00:53:48,820 is the footnote that Feinstein gave him! 656 00:53:49,626 --> 00:53:52,561 Other than that, he never published anything of value. 657 00:53:53,396 --> 00:53:56,490 Do you know why Feinstein gave him that citation? 658 00:53:56,600 --> 00:54:00,092 Because he knew your father was no threat to him. 659 00:54:00,470 --> 00:54:01,903 He had such disdain for him 660 00:54:02,005 --> 00:54:04,906 that he was willing to share this empty credit with him. 661 00:54:05,008 --> 00:54:06,908 He knew how much your father needed it. 662 00:54:07,010 --> 00:54:09,478 That's no reason to get the lsrael Prize. 663 00:54:09,679 --> 00:54:12,580 Now, move away from the door, please. 664 00:54:15,018 --> 00:54:16,679 l said move away from the door! 665 00:54:16,786 --> 00:54:19,118 Back off, you psychopath bastard! 666 00:54:35,305 --> 00:54:38,001 l want the record of this meeting. 667 00:54:38,708 --> 00:54:41,336 You know there is no record in our meetings. 668 00:54:42,012 --> 00:54:43,980 l'm sorry l pushed you. 669 00:54:44,347 --> 00:54:46,212 l shouldn't have pushed you. 670 00:54:46,416 --> 00:54:47,713 Let's all calm down. 671 00:54:47,917 --> 00:54:49,976 Are you okay, Professor Grossman? 672 00:54:52,522 --> 00:54:53,921 Let's put things back into proportion. 673 00:54:54,157 --> 00:54:57,854 No, these are the proportions. 674 00:54:59,195 --> 00:55:01,060 These are the proportions. 675 00:55:17,247 --> 00:55:19,442 Give me a few hours. 676 00:55:20,183 --> 00:55:21,741 l'll tell my father. 677 00:56:38,695 --> 00:56:39,719 Who is it? 678 00:56:40,196 --> 00:56:42,858 lt's Uriel Shkolnik. ls my father there? 679 00:56:42,966 --> 00:56:44,228 Yes, come in. 680 00:57:19,569 --> 00:57:21,264 Uriel, here. 681 00:57:21,371 --> 00:57:24,738 Would you like to say a few words in honor of your father's prize? 682 00:58:29,772 --> 00:58:31,467 Did you talk to Josh? 683 00:58:33,543 --> 00:58:35,170 When is he coming back? 684 00:58:35,712 --> 00:58:37,646 l don't know. Tomorrow, or the day after. 685 00:58:37,814 --> 00:58:40,408 -Tomorrow, or the day after? -l said l didn't know. 686 00:58:47,390 --> 00:58:48,618 Sorry. 687 00:58:49,726 --> 00:58:51,023 Talk to him. 688 00:58:51,427 --> 00:58:53,327 You got registered mail. 689 00:59:06,709 --> 00:59:08,267 I can't do it. 690 00:59:09,779 --> 00:59:11,212 l just can't. 691 00:59:11,948 --> 00:59:15,213 Ever since l got my tenure, he stopped being happy for me. 692 00:59:15,418 --> 00:59:17,409 Every achievement of mine is at his expense. 693 00:59:17,620 --> 00:59:19,019 And l know he blames me. 694 00:59:19,923 --> 00:59:23,757 l'm the one who spoils this world that was supposed to be his. 695 00:59:23,993 --> 00:59:26,359 He'll survive this blow, 696 00:59:26,896 --> 00:59:29,160 perhaps even revel in it. 697 00:59:29,399 --> 00:59:32,425 lt'll be proof that everyone but he is an amateur. 698 00:59:32,535 --> 00:59:34,002 But he'll hate me. 699 00:59:34,103 --> 00:59:36,230 lf l tell him about this mistake, 700 00:59:36,773 --> 00:59:39,674 it will bury my relationship with him forever. 701 00:59:42,879 --> 00:59:47,339 Uriel, there is no greater betrayal of your father and his principles 702 00:59:47,450 --> 00:59:49,213 than what you are asking of me. 703 00:59:50,553 --> 00:59:53,044 ln spite of all my criticism of him, 704 00:59:53,423 --> 00:59:57,917 your father never validated a mistake because it was convenient. 705 00:59:58,661 --> 00:59:59,889 You know that. 706 01:00:00,096 --> 01:00:01,324 Yes, but he won't. 707 01:00:02,432 --> 01:00:04,263 -We will. -So what? 708 01:00:04,367 --> 01:00:05,527 ''So what?'' 709 01:00:06,102 --> 01:00:08,627 lt turns the whole system into a circus. 710 01:00:08,738 --> 01:00:09,727 No! 711 01:00:09,839 --> 01:00:12,501 lt means that there are things more important than the truth. 712 01:00:12,775 --> 01:00:13,901 Like what? 713 01:00:14,010 --> 01:00:14,999 Family? 714 01:00:16,045 --> 01:00:21,005 Like your father, l do know something about cutting corners, 715 01:00:21,117 --> 01:00:22,550 about abandoning the truth. 716 01:00:22,652 --> 01:00:24,347 Enough with this truth! 717 01:00:24,454 --> 01:00:27,753 So much aggression and violence you hide under the word ''truth.'' 718 01:00:27,924 --> 01:00:29,255 l don't believe in this romanticism. 719 01:00:29,459 --> 01:00:32,428 You don't seek the truth. You seek honors, 720 01:00:32,528 --> 01:00:34,519 just like other mortals. 721 01:00:35,932 --> 01:00:39,231 Such a terrible thing you're doing in the name of truth. 722 01:00:39,602 --> 01:00:41,331 lt's just a prize. 723 01:00:41,704 --> 01:00:44,002 A prize, that's all. 724 01:00:44,407 --> 01:00:46,341 lt's not a betrayal of anything. 725 01:00:46,442 --> 01:00:49,639 lt's just a small, nice thing 726 01:00:49,746 --> 01:00:54,308 you can do for a colleague, if only you'd be a little flexible. 727 01:00:55,318 --> 01:00:56,512 Just a tiny bit. 728 01:00:57,420 --> 01:00:59,945 That's all l ask of you. That's all. 729 01:01:18,675 --> 01:01:20,734 l'll agree on two conditions. 730 01:01:21,744 --> 01:01:24,975 The first is that you write the judges' considerations. 731 01:01:26,382 --> 01:01:28,748 l'll sign them, but you write them. 732 01:01:31,921 --> 01:01:35,516 The second condition is that you never submit 733 01:01:35,625 --> 01:01:37,422 your candidacy for the lsrael Prize. 734 01:01:40,196 --> 01:01:43,063 And make sure no one else does it for you. 735 01:01:44,567 --> 01:01:48,264 Not now, and not after my death and your father's death. 736 01:01:49,739 --> 01:01:52,503 Uriel, l gave you the lsrael Prize. 737 01:01:53,009 --> 01:01:55,375 As far as l'm concerned, it's yours. 738 01:01:55,578 --> 01:01:58,547 lf you choose to pass it on, for family reasons, 739 01:01:58,648 --> 01:02:00,775 l won't prevent you from doing that. 740 01:02:01,217 --> 01:02:04,380 But if that's your decision, it's final. 741 01:02:05,488 --> 01:02:08,389 Even ifjust you and l know about it. 742 01:02:14,163 --> 01:02:17,360 The revenge of Professor Shkolnik. 743 01:02:21,270 --> 01:02:22,931 -Hello. -Hello. 744 01:02:23,039 --> 01:02:26,236 -You must be the journalist? -Yes, l'm Noa. Pleased to meet you. 745 01:02:26,342 --> 01:02:28,435 -Come on in. -Thank you. 746 01:02:30,113 --> 01:02:32,308 l'm a little early. 747 01:02:32,815 --> 01:02:34,680 Eliezer likes punctuality. 748 01:02:34,784 --> 01:02:36,274 lt's lovely here! 749 01:02:36,385 --> 01:02:38,910 When l studied at Hebrew University, l wanted to live around here. 750 01:02:39,088 --> 01:02:41,283 -You studied at Hebrew University? -Yes. 751 01:02:41,491 --> 01:02:44,483 -Which department? -Philosophy and Art History. 752 01:02:44,694 --> 01:02:47,219 You didn't take any of Eliezer's classes? 753 01:02:47,330 --> 01:02:48,422 l'm afraid not. 754 01:02:48,631 --> 01:02:50,531 But l attended some of your son's lectures. 755 01:02:50,733 --> 01:02:52,598 Yes? How nice. 756 01:02:52,802 --> 01:02:58,900 l wanted to ask you if you have any pictures of Professor Shkolnik for the article. 757 01:02:59,008 --> 01:03:02,273 Maybe pictures of him with your son, Professor Uriel Shkolnik? 758 01:03:02,745 --> 01:03:05,009 -All right. -Hello. 759 01:03:05,581 --> 01:03:07,776 l'll look. Excuse me. 760 01:03:08,785 --> 01:03:10,685 Very pleased. l'm Noa. 761 01:03:15,458 --> 01:03:17,221 Would you prefer to sit at a table? 762 01:03:17,326 --> 01:03:20,523 No, this is fine, thank you. Wherever you prefer. 763 01:03:23,633 --> 01:03:26,067 ls it okay if l record our conversation? 764 01:03:36,712 --> 01:03:37,974 Shall we start? 765 01:03:43,219 --> 01:03:47,155 Can you tell me your life story, just in an outline? 766 01:03:47,256 --> 01:03:49,451 Born, raised, studied? 767 01:03:59,969 --> 01:04:02,767 l was born in Jerusalem. 768 01:04:05,174 --> 01:04:07,972 My parents came to lsrael in 1932. 769 01:04:09,412 --> 01:04:11,642 My father was a hat merchant. 770 01:04:16,018 --> 01:04:17,849 What do you mean by outline? 771 01:04:28,965 --> 01:04:31,593 Judges' Considerations 772 01:04:33,736 --> 01:04:35,328 Let's start over. 773 01:04:35,438 --> 01:04:38,236 Could you tell me a little about your research? 774 01:04:55,825 --> 01:04:59,955 ''Professor Eliezer Shkolnik. 775 01:05:00,296 --> 01:05:01,593 Professor Uriel Shkolnik 776 01:05:01,731 --> 01:05:02,823 ''The protege 777 01:05:03,466 --> 01:05:05,525 ''of the late Professor 778 01:05:06,636 --> 01:05:11,130 ''Yonah Naftali Feinstein, 779 01:05:13,376 --> 01:05:17,210 ''paved a new road in the study 780 01:05:17,313 --> 01:05:20,612 ''of the Jerusalem Talmud.'' 781 01:05:33,396 --> 01:05:36,888 My research focuses on mapping the branches of Talmud text versions. 782 01:05:42,305 --> 01:05:45,832 Mapping the text versions of the Talmud in lsrael. 783 01:05:46,342 --> 01:05:48,173 The Jerusalem Talmud, 784 01:05:48,844 --> 01:05:51,039 whose printed version, which is studied nowadays, 785 01:05:51,147 --> 01:05:53,809 is extremely problematic, philologically speaking. 786 01:05:58,387 --> 01:05:59,911 ''His research projects 787 01:06:00,189 --> 01:06:02,453 His projects 788 01:06:05,328 --> 01:06:07,159 ''His project 789 01:06:07,363 --> 01:06:09,524 ''in the last decades...'' 790 01:06:09,632 --> 01:06:11,896 The Introduction to the Text Version of the Talmudic Literature? 791 01:06:12,001 --> 01:06:13,866 Without ''the.'' 792 01:06:13,970 --> 01:06:18,873 Introduction to the Text Version of the Talmudic Literature, by Y. N. Feinstein. 793 01:06:19,842 --> 01:06:22,606 Among the thousands of footnotes in this book, 794 01:06:22,945 --> 01:06:28,645 l am the only one alive who Professor Feinstein mentions by name. 795 01:06:30,019 --> 01:06:32,044 ''His many publications... 796 01:06:38,294 --> 01:06:42,355 ''His few publications in various fields... 797 01:06:55,745 --> 01:07:02,014 ''May be described as sifted flour. 798 01:07:02,618 --> 01:07:06,748 ''A little that holds a lot.'' 799 01:07:10,926 --> 01:07:14,054 From talking with your colleagues, 800 01:07:14,430 --> 01:07:19,493 l understand that in the last few years, you were quite critical 801 01:07:19,702 --> 01:07:22,330 of the manner in which the lsrael Prizes were bestowed. 802 01:07:26,108 --> 01:07:32,479 ''His great proficiency in Talmudic Literature and his creativity...'' 803 01:07:36,585 --> 01:07:41,921 ''His impressive thoroughness in research...'' 804 01:07:44,360 --> 01:07:48,524 l believe the lsrael Prize has lost much of its prestige in recent years. 805 01:07:49,398 --> 01:07:53,391 When things got mixed up and the prize in Jewish Sciences 806 01:07:53,569 --> 01:07:57,596 started going to people who deal with rabbinical literature, folklore... 807 01:07:57,706 --> 01:07:59,503 So you're saying... 808 01:07:59,608 --> 01:08:01,576 -What? -Excuse me. Please continue. 809 01:08:01,677 --> 01:08:06,171 The recent recipients are not researchers in the scientific sense. 810 01:08:06,282 --> 01:08:09,740 Studies on rattles in the Talmudic era, 811 01:08:09,952 --> 01:08:12,614 or musings about the marital life of one sage or another, 812 01:08:12,721 --> 01:08:15,918 or cookie recipes in the Babylonian Diaspora, 813 01:08:16,092 --> 01:08:18,686 do not offer a scientific contribution 814 01:08:18,794 --> 01:08:21,524 and do not honor the institution of the lsrael Prize. 815 01:08:21,630 --> 01:08:26,693 l'm in an uncomfortable position, as they decided to grant me this prize, 816 01:08:26,802 --> 01:08:29,635 but, in all modesty, 817 01:08:29,738 --> 01:08:32,969 l hope this choice means a return to the days when they appreciated 818 01:08:33,075 --> 01:08:35,168 deep, thorough research, whose contribution 819 01:08:35,277 --> 01:08:38,371 isn't necessarily measured in terms of popular opinion. 820 01:08:39,181 --> 01:08:42,981 Your son wrote a book about marital relations during the Talmudic era. 821 01:08:47,056 --> 01:08:48,887 Uriel wrote many books. 822 01:08:49,859 --> 01:08:56,355 ''The greatness and uniqueness of Professor Shkolnik...'' 823 01:09:03,005 --> 01:09:07,874 How is it that two people in one family chose such a narrow field? 824 01:09:19,488 --> 01:09:21,649 Greatness 825 01:09:33,135 --> 01:09:37,071 ''Professor Shkolnik's fortress 826 01:09:37,506 --> 01:09:42,170 ''is deployed over all branches of Talmudic literature 827 01:09:42,378 --> 01:09:46,644 ''and its parallels in the contemporaneous culture.'' 828 01:09:46,815 --> 01:09:49,249 ls there competition between father and son? 829 01:09:50,920 --> 01:09:52,478 To quote the Babylonian Talmud, 830 01:09:52,655 --> 01:09:56,318 ''A man can be jealous of anyone except his son and pupil.'' 831 01:09:56,525 --> 01:09:58,117 l got the impression that you and he represent 832 01:09:58,227 --> 01:10:00,320 almost opposite schools of research. 833 01:10:02,031 --> 01:10:03,931 Who gave you this impression? 834 01:10:04,033 --> 01:10:05,933 l spoke to people, 835 01:10:06,302 --> 01:10:08,463 and l read your son's book. 836 01:10:09,405 --> 01:10:11,532 l'll illustrate it for you. 837 01:10:12,141 --> 01:10:14,575 Say we both deal with potsherds. 838 01:10:14,843 --> 01:10:16,811 Yes? Broken pottery? 839 01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:20,576 One of us examines these potsherds, 840 01:10:20,683 --> 01:10:22,981 cleans them meticulously, 841 01:10:23,085 --> 01:10:25,212 catalogs them, 842 01:10:25,321 --> 01:10:28,085 measures them scientifically and precisely, 843 01:10:28,290 --> 01:10:31,623 tries to decipher which period they're from, and who made them. 844 01:10:31,827 --> 01:10:35,285 And if he succeeds, he has done his work properly, 845 01:10:35,564 --> 01:10:38,158 and it has scientific value for generations. 846 01:10:39,902 --> 01:10:43,065 The other looks at the potsherds for a few seconds, 847 01:10:43,272 --> 01:10:45,263 sees they're more or less the same color, 848 01:10:45,474 --> 01:10:48,307 and immediately makes a pot out of them. 849 01:10:48,611 --> 01:10:51,478 The potsherds may be from different periods, 850 01:10:51,580 --> 01:10:55,141 they may not exactly match, main thing is, he has a pot! 851 01:10:55,985 --> 01:10:58,385 The pot is very nice, very attractive, 852 01:10:58,487 --> 01:11:01,456 but it has nothing to do with scientific truth. 853 01:11:01,557 --> 01:11:05,789 lt is an empty vessel. An illusion. A tower with no foundation. 854 01:11:08,530 --> 01:11:10,794 Sounds like this pot really annoys you. 855 01:11:11,000 --> 01:11:13,992 There is no pot! That's the point! lt's fiction. 856 01:11:14,103 --> 01:11:16,901 You can't be annoyed with something that doesn't exist. 857 01:11:17,473 --> 01:11:18,462 Fiction 858 01:11:20,643 --> 01:11:24,875 ls this conflict present in your family life? 859 01:11:30,286 --> 01:11:32,618 Uriel excels in what he does. 860 01:11:33,622 --> 01:11:36,455 But l wouldn't call it Talmudic research. 861 01:11:43,365 --> 01:11:46,061 ''His work embodies a research infrastructure, 862 01:11:46,168 --> 01:11:48,659 ''for those who work in Talmud research. 863 01:11:49,571 --> 01:11:53,200 ''For these reasons, the Committee finds Professor Shkolnik, 864 01:11:53,309 --> 01:11:55,072 ''worthy of receiving the lsrael Prize.'' 865 01:12:15,164 --> 01:12:16,961 Did you hear the conversation? 866 01:12:18,033 --> 01:12:20,160 Bits and pieces, not everything. 867 01:12:21,670 --> 01:12:22,932 Was l clear enough? 868 01:12:23,505 --> 01:12:26,531 l think so. l didn't hear everything. 869 01:12:27,543 --> 01:12:31,172 l hope she's accurate. She's a complete ignoramus. 870 01:13:28,804 --> 01:13:31,068 On his son: ''Nothing to do with scientific truth. 871 01:13:31,173 --> 01:13:32,504 ''Empty Vessel. An illusion. No Foundations.'' 872 01:13:32,608 --> 01:13:34,735 Highbrow Soap Opera 873 01:13:37,112 --> 01:13:38,943 Young and Charlatan 874 01:13:42,117 --> 01:13:43,846 Empty Vessel 875 01:14:11,046 --> 01:14:13,412 Judges' Considerations 876 01:14:25,060 --> 01:14:27,824 Re: lsrael Prize 877 01:15:03,999 --> 01:15:06,797 Did you check the version in the Oxford manuscript? 878 01:15:06,902 --> 01:15:07,869 No. 879 01:15:08,437 --> 01:15:11,406 -The article by lzhak Baer on the subject? -No. 880 01:15:11,507 --> 01:15:13,441 -Menahem Ben-Sasson? -No. 881 01:15:13,542 --> 01:15:15,009 Reuven Bonfil? 882 01:15:15,110 --> 01:15:16,509 Salo Baron? 883 01:15:16,712 --> 01:15:19,875 These are just the scholars relevant to your thesis starting with ''B.'' 884 01:15:22,050 --> 01:15:28,649 Look, l've read some good papers in my life, and l've read... 885 01:16:28,483 --> 01:16:32,419 Measuring potsherds all your life, with nothing to show for it. 886 01:16:32,621 --> 01:16:33,747 That's science? 887 01:16:34,423 --> 01:16:35,890 lt's masturbation! 888 01:16:55,611 --> 01:16:56,600 What are you doing? 889 01:16:56,945 --> 01:16:58,173 What are you doing? 890 01:16:59,047 --> 01:17:00,207 Nothing. 891 01:17:06,855 --> 01:17:07,844 What are you planning to do? 892 01:17:08,357 --> 01:17:09,346 When? 893 01:17:09,458 --> 01:17:12,825 Say, tomorrow morning? Next week? ln three years? 894 01:17:12,928 --> 01:17:14,725 Any plans on the horizon? 895 01:17:21,803 --> 01:17:24,271 l'm so close to giving up on you. 896 01:17:25,607 --> 01:17:29,099 You know what it means when a father gives up on his son? 897 01:17:29,678 --> 01:17:31,839 l'm asking you, do you understand? 898 01:17:33,882 --> 01:17:35,474 So let me explain it. 899 01:17:40,222 --> 01:17:44,420 You're a millimeter from the point where your life's course 900 01:17:44,526 --> 01:17:46,517 becomes irreversible. 901 01:17:47,763 --> 01:17:50,254 Giving up on you means that instead of wanting 902 01:17:50,365 --> 01:17:51,889 to help you before it's too late, 903 01:17:53,068 --> 01:17:57,061 l want to see you suffer so that l can gloat. 904 01:17:59,641 --> 01:18:01,131 That's what it means. 905 01:18:28,103 --> 01:18:31,595 You have a problem with your autistic father, go yell at him, not at Josh! 906 01:18:31,707 --> 01:18:35,438 l told you to talk to him, not smash his head in with a bat. 907 01:18:36,611 --> 01:18:38,078 You have one role in this house, 908 01:18:38,180 --> 01:18:39,374 to be a mother. 909 01:18:39,481 --> 01:18:40,812 You dump that on me, too? 910 01:19:46,615 --> 01:19:51,018 It seems today I'm not just the driver, but also the horse. 911 01:19:57,192 --> 01:19:59,023 How is it so far? 912 01:20:01,963 --> 01:20:04,022 Did you get reactions to the article? 913 01:20:04,366 --> 01:20:05,663 Some. 914 01:20:06,334 --> 01:20:08,894 l don't think it interested that many people. 915 01:20:09,004 --> 01:20:12,804 Also, they put it way in the back pages, so... 916 01:20:17,212 --> 01:20:18,645 Talk to him. 917 01:20:18,747 --> 01:20:19,975 Really? 918 01:20:20,081 --> 01:20:23,812 -Give him a chance to apologize. -Has he ever apologized? 919 01:20:23,919 --> 01:20:26,513 l don't need his apology. l don't give a damn. 920 01:21:00,589 --> 01:21:04,855 Fiddler on the Roof 921 01:21:06,795 --> 01:21:10,492 Nice dowry you gave my daughter, Tzeitel, on her wedding day. 922 01:21:10,665 --> 01:21:14,567 Was that really necessary? 923 01:21:16,037 --> 01:21:17,732 Never mind. 924 01:21:17,973 --> 01:21:22,433 Anyway, Motel and Tzeitel have been married two months... 925 01:21:22,711 --> 01:21:25,179 Change places with me for a moment. 926 01:21:25,547 --> 01:21:30,075 They're so happy, they have no idea how bad they have it. 927 01:21:43,164 --> 01:21:47,624 The lsrael Prize was supposed to go to me this year, not to Dad. 928 01:21:47,969 --> 01:21:51,803 Because of an assistant's mistake, they announced it to him. 929 01:21:52,040 --> 01:21:56,238 When it was discovered, l gave up the prize for him. 930 01:21:56,978 --> 01:21:59,742 No one knows, besides you. 931 01:21:59,848 --> 01:22:01,338 Not even Dikla. 932 01:22:24,506 --> 01:22:27,703 Tradition, tradition... 933 01:23:15,123 --> 01:23:16,454 Yes? 934 01:24:00,201 --> 01:24:02,692 Professor Shkolnik's fortress. 935 01:24:21,489 --> 01:24:24,754 This is your first interview on television, right? 936 01:24:27,395 --> 01:24:31,388 You shouldn't be wearing a white shirt. Remember that, for the next time. 937 01:24:31,633 --> 01:24:34,966 Maybe, if you had a jacket, but white just won't do. 938 01:24:35,170 --> 01:24:36,535 lt's too bright. 939 01:24:40,642 --> 01:24:42,234 Try this on, 940 01:24:42,744 --> 01:24:46,805 ''Professor Eliezer Shkolnik, star student of the great Talmud scholar, 941 01:24:47,015 --> 01:24:49,483 ''Professor Yonah Naftali Feinstein, 942 01:24:49,717 --> 01:24:52,413 ''for decades researched the branches of text versions, 943 01:24:52,620 --> 01:24:55,817 ''of the Talmud, the various manuscripts, 944 01:24:56,024 --> 01:24:59,755 ''and came to a few sensational conclusions...'' 945 01:24:59,961 --> 01:25:02,020 Yoav, that's no good. 946 01:25:04,399 --> 01:25:07,061 ''Surprising conclusions.'' Fix it. 947 01:25:07,969 --> 01:25:10,130 ''Surprising conclusions. 948 01:25:11,072 --> 01:25:13,870 ''We'll discuss manuscript research methods...'' 949 01:25:16,478 --> 01:25:19,970 ''And his monumental work. 950 01:25:20,181 --> 01:25:23,241 ''A scientific edition of one of the tractates...'' 951 01:25:23,351 --> 01:25:26,912 -Excuse me. -We'll ask him. 952 01:25:27,021 --> 01:25:29,080 Excuse me, please. 953 01:25:29,190 --> 01:25:30,452 We don't need this. 954 01:25:30,558 --> 01:25:34,426 -''His relationship with his son...'' -Excuse me. 955 01:25:34,863 --> 01:25:35,955 Yes, sorry. 956 01:25:36,131 --> 01:25:38,065 lt's an introduction to a scientific edition. 957 01:25:38,166 --> 01:25:40,760 Did you hear, Yoav? Add ''introduction.'' 958 01:25:43,138 --> 01:25:44,435 Say something. 959 01:25:45,507 --> 01:25:46,599 What should l say? 960 01:25:46,708 --> 01:25:49,199 -Count to 10. -Delete it. 961 01:25:49,911 --> 01:25:52,436 ''To which he has dedicated his life.'' 962 01:25:52,614 --> 01:25:56,846 One, two, three... 963 01:25:57,752 --> 01:26:00,050 Keep going. Louder. 964 01:26:00,188 --> 01:26:01,621 Four... 965 01:26:01,723 --> 01:26:02,985 -Louder. -Four. 966 01:26:03,491 --> 01:26:05,220 -Louder please. -Five. 967 01:26:06,861 --> 01:26:08,522 Six. 968 01:26:17,071 --> 01:26:18,800 Professor Shkolnik. 969 01:26:18,907 --> 01:26:21,398 Professor Shkolnik, where are you going? Wait. 970 01:26:21,509 --> 01:26:23,238 Professor Shkolnik! 971 01:26:48,403 --> 01:26:50,871 Fortresses 972 01:27:21,903 --> 01:27:23,268 Miscellaneous 973 01:27:38,253 --> 01:27:39,743 Judges' Considerations 974 01:27:41,422 --> 01:27:44,016 Professor Shkolnik's fortress 975 01:27:44,993 --> 01:27:47,655 Professor Shkolnik's fortress 976 01:27:53,868 --> 01:27:57,702 Fortress: Fort, Strong, fortified building. 977 01:27:57,839 --> 01:27:59,568 Shelter 978 01:27:59,707 --> 01:28:01,231 Shield 979 01:28:18,860 --> 01:28:23,297 Uriel Shkolnik On ldentity and Memory 980 01:28:28,036 --> 01:28:29,663 The Fortress of Professor Urbach 981 01:28:32,607 --> 01:28:36,099 The Fortress of Professor 982 01:28:38,880 --> 01:28:40,040 Uriel 983 01:28:52,160 --> 01:28:54,321 By Uriel Shkolnik 984 01:28:54,429 --> 01:28:56,363 The Fortress of Professor Herman is deployed 985 01:28:56,464 --> 01:28:58,659 So, thank you, for this distinction, 986 01:28:58,766 --> 01:29:00,427 for the personal example you set, 987 01:29:00,535 --> 01:29:03,402 for the way of life in our home, 988 01:29:03,504 --> 01:29:06,701 for the cultural fortress you built around us. 989 01:29:11,479 --> 01:29:13,310 Prof, Yehuda Grossman, chairman 990 01:29:13,414 --> 01:29:16,872 But my father insisted and forced me to write ''teacher.'' 991 01:29:17,085 --> 01:29:19,952 He also demanded to see the form, 992 01:29:20,154 --> 01:29:22,748 as only a manuscript researcher knows, 993 01:29:22,924 --> 01:29:25,324 to make sure l didn't make a mistake, 994 01:29:25,593 --> 01:29:29,154 or left space on the line, to add something. 995 01:29:29,697 --> 01:29:31,756 Yehuda Grossman + Fortress 996 01:29:31,866 --> 01:29:33,060 Search 997 01:29:35,069 --> 01:29:37,094 No results 998 01:29:41,075 --> 01:29:42,440 Professor Shkolnik? 999 01:29:43,578 --> 01:29:47,378 I imagine you want to tell your loved ones. 1000 01:29:47,548 --> 01:29:51,814 I just want to say, a registered letter was mailed to you today. 1001 01:30:00,528 --> 01:30:04,123 The prize supervisor will contact you to answer any questions. 1002 01:30:04,232 --> 01:30:07,326 If I'm not mistaken, we'll meet on the 19th. 1003 01:30:07,435 --> 01:30:09,767 At a conference, before the Israel Prize ceremony. 1004 01:30:10,638 --> 01:30:11,605 Conferences 1005 01:30:18,713 --> 01:30:20,340 Minister of Education 1006 01:30:20,448 --> 01:30:22,211 Again, congratulations. 1007 01:30:22,316 --> 01:30:23,647 Uriel Shkolnik 1008 01:30:24,519 --> 01:30:26,043 Thank you. 1009 01:30:34,295 --> 01:30:37,560 -Hello, Professor Shkolnik? -Hello. 1010 01:30:37,665 --> 01:30:40,361 I assume you know why I'm calling. 1011 01:30:40,701 --> 01:30:41,963 No. 1012 01:30:42,403 --> 01:30:43,427 Why is she calling? 1013 01:30:43,538 --> 01:30:47,975 I'm happy to announce that you'll receive the Israel Prize this year. 1014 01:30:48,075 --> 01:30:49,508 Congratulations. 1015 01:30:50,011 --> 01:30:52,707 -Professor Shkolnik? -Yes. 1016 01:30:52,980 --> 01:30:56,074 I'm happy this prize is going to you on my watch. 1017 01:30:56,784 --> 01:30:59,947 There are so few opportunities to openly thank people like you 1018 01:31:00,087 --> 01:31:01,748 in the public arena. 1019 01:31:01,856 --> 01:31:04,689 I'm excited for you and proud of your achievements, 1020 01:31:04,792 --> 01:31:07,192 your research and your educational activity. 1021 01:31:07,295 --> 01:31:11,595 lf one has to define our profession, the nature of our craft, 1022 01:31:11,899 --> 01:31:13,059 Thanks... We teachers... Cultural Fortress... 1023 01:31:13,334 --> 01:31:15,302 the essence of this totality, 1024 01:31:15,403 --> 01:31:17,337 Sifted flour 1025 01:31:17,438 --> 01:31:20,930 that takes over every second of our lives. 1026 01:31:21,042 --> 01:31:22,407 lmportant shift 1027 01:31:24,712 --> 01:31:25,940 We are teachers. 1028 01:31:26,380 --> 01:31:27,642 l'm not a teacher! 1029 01:31:28,850 --> 01:31:30,511 l'm a philologist! 1030 01:31:30,952 --> 01:31:34,388 I'm a philologist! 1031 01:31:42,430 --> 01:31:44,864 Fortress is deployed: 1032 01:31:44,966 --> 01:31:46,297 To ambush 1033 01:31:46,400 --> 01:31:47,526 To destroy 1034 01:31:49,403 --> 01:31:51,337 A path fraught with danger 1035 01:31:52,440 --> 01:31:53,464 Hunted animals 1036 01:31:56,511 --> 01:31:57,478 Hunt 1037 01:31:57,578 --> 01:31:58,545 Mice 1038 01:31:58,646 --> 01:32:01,843 This is the way the state and all its institutions 1039 01:32:01,949 --> 01:32:03,382 to say, ''Thank you. '' 1040 01:32:04,652 --> 01:32:06,916 Trap 1041 01:33:27,535 --> 01:33:31,164 lnternational Convention Center, Jerusalem 1042 01:33:31,272 --> 01:33:34,730 Congratulate the lsrael Award recipients 1043 01:33:47,888 --> 01:33:49,446 Professor Eliezer Shkolnik 1044 01:34:29,597 --> 01:34:35,263 ...three, four, five, six, seven, eight. 1045 01:34:35,936 --> 01:34:40,430 One, two, three, two, two, three, three, two, three, go. 1046 01:34:40,541 --> 01:34:44,773 One, two, three, four, 1047 01:34:44,879 --> 01:34:48,940 five, six, seven, eight. 1048 01:34:49,583 --> 01:34:53,576 One, two, three, four, 1049 01:34:53,688 --> 01:34:57,784 five, six, seven, eight. 1050 01:34:58,192 --> 01:35:02,492 One, two, three, two, two, three, three, two, three, four, two, three, 1051 01:35:02,596 --> 01:35:06,532 five, six, seven, eight. 1052 01:35:07,268 --> 01:35:11,398 One, two, three, two, two, three, three, two, three, four. 1053 01:35:11,672 --> 01:35:13,435 Five, six... 1054 01:36:30,084 --> 01:36:33,952 Hello, Professor Shkolnik. We need you at the rehearsal, please. 1055 01:36:38,492 --> 01:36:43,156 Every year, at least one recipient gets confused on this stage. 1056 01:36:43,364 --> 01:36:45,229 It seems simple, but it isn't. 1057 01:36:45,432 --> 01:36:48,993 So I will have a separate rehearsal with each one of you. 1058 01:36:49,203 --> 01:36:51,330 Listen carefully, 1059 01:36:51,539 --> 01:36:54,667 it's important to pay attention to details. 1060 01:36:54,875 --> 01:36:56,809 We don't want to see you fall, 1061 01:36:57,011 --> 01:36:59,639 or bump into a stand, or trip over a cable. 1062 01:36:59,847 --> 01:37:01,508 These things have happened. 1063 01:37:01,615 --> 01:37:04,584 I'll explain, and in the end, you'll get it. 1064 01:37:05,653 --> 01:37:08,679 Professor Shkolnik, we will rehearse now. 1065 01:37:08,889 --> 01:37:11,483 Professor Shkolnik? 1066 01:37:12,393 --> 01:37:15,123 You are the recipient for Talmud Research. 1067 01:37:15,329 --> 01:37:18,696 Stand up, please. Get up, on your feet, get up. 1068 01:37:18,899 --> 01:37:22,232 When your name is called out, get up. Yes, get up. 1069 01:37:22,436 --> 01:37:26,202 You stand like that until you hear the judges' considerations. 1070 01:37:26,607 --> 01:37:28,268 Now, step out. To your left. 1071 01:37:33,113 --> 01:37:35,104 Here, right in front. 1072 01:37:35,316 --> 01:37:37,614 Do you see the President? 1073 01:37:37,718 --> 01:37:41,279 Come, here's my hand. We're going over to the President. 1074 01:37:41,956 --> 01:37:43,856 We approach him, and you shake his hand. 1075 01:37:44,058 --> 01:37:45,992 Shake his hand. 1076 01:37:46,193 --> 01:37:47,319 Shake it with your right. 1077 01:37:47,428 --> 01:37:49,328 The President 1078 01:37:50,197 --> 01:37:52,256 Shake his hand. Very good, you shook his hand. 1079 01:37:52,366 --> 01:37:55,267 We walk over to the Prime Minister, to get the certificate. 1080 01:37:55,903 --> 01:37:57,165 Receive the certificate. 1081 01:37:57,271 --> 01:37:58,602 Excellent. 1082 01:37:58,772 --> 01:38:01,639 Hand it to the attendant at your right. Give it to her. 1083 01:38:01,742 --> 01:38:02,766 Good. 1084 01:38:02,877 --> 01:38:06,176 Shake hands with the Prime Minister. 1085 01:38:06,413 --> 01:38:09,382 Now the Chairman of the Knesset. 1086 01:38:09,583 --> 01:38:12,552 Shake his hand. 1087 01:38:12,753 --> 01:38:16,280 Shake it, shake it. 1088 01:39:56,490 --> 01:39:59,050 lsrael Prize Presentation Ceremony 1089 01:40:14,875 --> 01:40:17,537 Good evening and happy holiday to our viewers at home, 1090 01:40:17,644 --> 01:40:24,607 and to the audience at the International Convention Center in Jerusalem. 1091 01:40:25,285 --> 01:40:30,222 Welcome to the presentation ceremony of the Israel Prize for this year. 1092 01:40:30,457 --> 01:40:32,084 Good evening, Danny Kushmaro. 1093 01:40:32,359 --> 01:40:33,917 Good evening to you, Meirav Miller, 1094 01:40:34,261 --> 01:40:37,492 and good evening to the recipients of the Israel Prize. 1095 01:41:09,029 --> 01:41:13,864 As every year, we have convened on Independence Day in Jerusalem, 1096 01:41:13,967 --> 01:41:16,231 to bestow the Israel Prizes. 1097 01:41:16,336 --> 01:41:19,271 Ladies and gentlemen, the national anthem, Hatikva. 86316

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