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I never hit your mum.
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As your father, I thought
you might already know the answer.
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He said he'd seen Eliot
climbing into the house
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through a first-floor window.
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Tell me the truth, Eliot,
or I can't continue to protect you.
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I was driving. I hit something
and I went out to look for it
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and I couldn't find anything.
That's it.
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I'm losing the plot.
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You're tired.
It just makes everything seem worse.
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Any sensitive stuff inside?
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Jesus, there's one site here
that's found a photo of him.
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If you need to take me off the case,
I'll understand completely.
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For the record,
I very much want to stay.
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Urgh!
Peter Carr's died.
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And I am sorry you're going through
whatever it is you're going through.
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I love you, sweetheart.
I swear,
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I didn't hurt Hayley Reid.
I never even met her.
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When might the police know
that you're not a suspect any more?
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I don't know.
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If she encountered anyone, the
more likely it would be Tim Finch.
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The ticket was issued at 6:20am,
six miles outside of Middenham.
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Timothy Finch, I'm arresting you
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on suspicion of the murder
of Hayley Reid.
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We have authority
to search your premises
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under Section 32 of the Police
And Criminal Evidence Act.
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In his cellar we found a necklace
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with hair still attached
to the clasp,
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a scrunchie and a pair of knickers.
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♪ All you do is hide away ♪
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♪ All you do is ♪
♪ All you do is hide away ♪
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♪ All you do is lie and wait ♪
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♪ All you do is ♪
♪ All you do is lie and wait ♪
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♪ I've been upside down ♪
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♪ I don't wanna be ♪
♪ The right way round ♪
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♪ Can't find paradise ♪
♪ On the ground. ♪
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*UNFORGOTTEN*
Season 03 Episode 06
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*UNFORGOTTEN*
Episode Title: "Episode #3.6"
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That's a lot of manpower.
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And really, what are you even hoping
to find 18 years on?
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I don't-I don't know.
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But this has to be the most likely
location of her murder.
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And Middenham Woods, near the
Spinney, have never been searched.
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- This can't end like the Walker case.
- It won't.
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I'll see what Hampshire
will give us.
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Thank you, sir.
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You don't have to make every call.
I am here, you know.
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Thank you, it's just...
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- Hello?
- Hi. Is that Jess?
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- Yes.
- Jess, it's Cass Stuart.
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There's been a development
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and we wondered how you and,
or your mum...
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..would feel about
coming up to London this afternoon.
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Can we just cut to the chase here?
What are you saying?
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That you think Dad
is some sort of psychopath
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and the police have got
the right man?
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I don't know. I just...
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I saw something in Mum's eyes
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- that I've never seen before.
- Oh, please
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And I believed her, Claire.
I'm sorry, but I did.
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It happens, you know?
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I've read stories in the paper,
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where people turn out to have
completely hidden other lives.
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It happens.
It does.
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But just because
your ex turned out
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to be a lying, cheating,
evil bastard,
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it doesn't mean that all men are,
Emma.
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Carol, is there anything
in what I'm saying
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that sets off any alarm bells?
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Is there any reason
you can think of
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that the police would be
so interested in our father?
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No.
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I think you're lying.
I think you know something.
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- I think you should go.
- Carol, we need
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- to know.
- No! We
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should be pulling together,
not exorcising personal demons.
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So, just go.
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Em, please, just go.
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Hi, it's Eliot.
Leave a message.
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Hi, this is Amy.
Please leave a...
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Do you remember our theatre trips
to London?
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We used to love those.
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Mama Mia, Miss Saigon...
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That brilliant thing
at the Royal Court.
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Oh, my God,
with all the swearing!
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Yeah, that's why we loved it.
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Did we go for milkshakes afterwards?
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Hales did that frothy lip thing
she used to do.
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We were all in hysterics.
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I'm so sorry, Jessie...
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..for your loss.
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Well, the box is mine.
And I've had it decades.
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Since I was a kid, I think.
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It's more what was inside
that we're interested in.
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Well, I think I bought the necklace
and the scrunchy
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at a fete we went to in Middenham,
as presents for the girls.
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A fete at New Year?
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Oh, sorry, no. I don't mean
the millennium holiday.
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We went back down there
several times over the years,
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just me and the girls,
after Derran and I separated.
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Right.
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And do you remember
which holiday
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you think
you might have bought them?
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Not really.
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But it was a fete,
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so it's most likely the summer one,
which was,
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erm... a year and half
after the millennium holiday, so...
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..2001.
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And what, you bought the...
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..necklace and the scrunchy
together?
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I don't remember.
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Why do you think
these where all in this box, then,
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in your cellar,
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with the knickers?
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I mean, I can offer you
an explanation.
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But given why I'm here, I suspect
you'll find it rather far-fetched.
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Try me.
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Well,
the girls often used old knickers
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to tie their hair back,
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if they didn't have a band
or a scrunchy.
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It was a sort of family joke.
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But it also meant
that they often got, erm...
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..just grouped together
in various places around the house.
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So...
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..I'm guessing, that I...
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..forgot to give the presents
to the girls
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and then, at some point, all this
stuff just got put in this box
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and then tidied away downstairs.
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I'm sorry,
that's all I can offer you.
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Do you understand
why these objects might concern us?
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I think so, yes.
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Because they...
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..they look like trophies to us.
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I understand your thinking.
But, please...
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..let me assure you,
these can't be Hayley Reid's...
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..for the very simple reason
that I never met Hayley Reid.
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Mila!
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Mila!
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It's me!
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Where is West End
Central Police Station?
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- Yeah, just down there on the right.
- Thank you.
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If, at any point, you want to stop,
just say the word.
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I think it's very unlikely
this was Hayley's.
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OK.
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I know she had long hair
in the missing posters...
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..but that was just
the most recent photo we had of her.
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Cos, actually, about three weeks
before she disappeared,
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she had her hair cut in to a bob,
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so she wouldn't have been wearing
a scrunchy.
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Right.
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OK. No problem.
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No.
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I don't think so. I....
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- No, I don't think they were hers.
- OK.
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Hayley was
all about colour and fun.
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She would have never worn knickers
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- like these...
- OK.
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And lastly...
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I'm sorry.
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I don't recognise that, either.
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Aside from neither of us
recognising it,
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Um, Hayley was
a pretty devout atheist.
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I never saw her wearing a cross.
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I'm sorry, it's... No, it's nothing
to be sorry about, nothing at all.
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So, is there other stuff
with this man?
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Like, are you near,
do you think?
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I don't want to give you false hope,
Jess,
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but...
I do feel we're near, yes.
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Now... we just need to find
that concrete link.
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- OK.
- Hard evidence.
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Well, we have faith in you.
You know that, don't you?
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And I appreciate it
very much.
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I'll call you.
Yeah.
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Thank you.
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I wore a crucifix
when I was 16
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cos Axl Rose wore one.
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I'd never been inside a church
in my life.
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- Absolutely. We test the lot.
- Yeah.
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Please leave a message at the tone.
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Hey, do you want to give your mum
a fucking ring sometime?
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Mrs Faruk?
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Hello. So all the officers from the
Landmark case have left for the day.
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But I can leave a message for them
to call you.
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Will they be in tomorrow?
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I don't
know their movements, I'm afraid.
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- But if I take your...
- I'll come back tomorrow.
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I need to see them face to face.
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Thank you.
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The results of the tests
have come through.
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And?
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They're not Hayley Reid's.
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Oh, for...
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But they have found a match.
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What do you mean,
they've found a match?
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What match?
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To the DNA of a 14-year-old girl
called Alison Baldwin,
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who went missing in June 1997.
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Her body was found
two days later,
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in woodland, minus underwear.
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She'd been raped and strangled.
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So, like Hayley, Alison
disappeared on a walk through woods
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flanking a small village
six miles from Cambridge.
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She was found in undergrowth...
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..by a police search two days later.
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Her father's dead now.
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But her mum, who I just spoke to
on the phone, is going to come up
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to have a look at the items
we found in Finch's house.
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So my guess, if he's smart,
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he'll still say that he bought these
items at a Middenham summer fete.
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And he's just the innocent victim
of a coincidence.
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Which is, obviously,
very hard to believe,
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but which a defence
could certainly argue was possible.
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So, what we need, what I need,
from you...
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..is to find other connections
between him and Alison Baldwin.
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I believe they exist,
because I believe, in my gut,
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that Finch killed them both.
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The files that we collated when
we were trying to identify Hayley,
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- have they gone back yet?
- All still here.
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Good.
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And can we get a message out
to all forces
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for information
on all murders with a similar MO
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of females between the ages of 14...
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..and 20...
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..from 1975...
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..to the present day.
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We want to know about
every unsolved case,
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whether there's any
remaining forensic evidence.
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Yeah. Erm...
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You've all seen Hayley's family.
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And we'll meet Alison's
later today.
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So... So you'll know
what their lives been reduced to.
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Let's find this evidence for them.
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OK, guys, heads down.
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Let's get cracking.
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Guv!
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I've found something!
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What does the name Alison Baldwin
mean to you?
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Nothing. Why?
What should it mean?
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Well, I'd have thought something.
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The items we recovered
from your cellar belonged to her.
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Oh, OK. Erm...
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Well, before she
gave them
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to whoever sold them at the fete,
you mean.
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Well, let's discuss that, shall we?
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Because we don't believe you did
buy them at a fete. Except, I did.
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It's just that that would be
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a fairly astonishing coincidence,
wouldn't it,
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that we're interviewing you
in connection with one murder
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and then we find items
in your possession
249
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that connect you to another?
250
00:15:49,750 --> 00:15:53,728
Alison Baldwin was raped
and murdered, also in woodland,
251
00:15:53,805 --> 00:15:57,088
about two and a half years
before Hayley died.
252
00:15:57,485 --> 00:16:02,025
And the one common thread, between
these two tragic deaths, is you.
253
00:16:03,094 --> 00:16:05,947
Except, you don't have a connection
between me and Hayley.
254
00:16:07,383 --> 00:16:11,861
Listen, I bought those objects
in Middenham at a fete.
255
00:16:12,258 --> 00:16:15,923
If Hayley's killer
lived in Middenham, then...
256
00:16:16,172 --> 00:16:18,761
..maybe he killed this other girl,
too,
257
00:16:18,838 --> 00:16:24,564
and then donated these objects
to the fete at some point.
258
00:16:24,875 --> 00:16:28,119
OK, well,
let's leave that there for now.
259
00:16:28,344 --> 00:16:30,650
One other thing
we wanted to run past you...
260
00:16:30,805 --> 00:16:36,041
Your Audi A4, the one that you drove
to Middenham in on 3rd January.
261
00:16:36,243 --> 00:16:40,455
Why do you think that we've found
a spare wheel for an A4,
262
00:16:40,532 --> 00:16:43,150
and corresponding boot casing,
in woodland,
263
00:16:43,227 --> 00:16:45,509
near the National Trust car park
behind The Spinney?
264
00:16:45,586 --> 00:16:46,961
No idea.
265
00:16:47,383 --> 00:16:49,693
They weren't from your car?
No.
266
00:16:49,770 --> 00:16:50,782
Oh.
267
00:16:50,859 --> 00:16:53,908
We think they were. We think you
dumped them there 18 years ago,
268
00:16:53,985 --> 00:16:57,131
in order to make the space in
the boot to conceal Hayley's body.
269
00:16:57,764 --> 00:17:00,548
I've told you why I went down there.
270
00:17:00,625 --> 00:17:02,320
Yeah, you have, Tim,
and we think that's a lie.
271
00:17:02,397 --> 00:17:03,869
And here's the thing...
272
00:17:03,946 --> 00:17:05,970
We've tracked down that car.
273
00:17:06,110 --> 00:17:07,657
Your A4.
274
00:17:07,969 --> 00:17:10,398
And it has a spare wheel
and it has the boot casing.
275
00:17:10,475 --> 00:17:12,759
But my guess is
they're both replacements.
276
00:17:12,868 --> 00:17:15,609
And if they are, what do you think
we're going to find underneath them,
277
00:17:15,686 --> 00:17:18,173
when we remove them later on
in our lab?
278
00:17:18,414 --> 00:17:21,298
Cos I don't think
you ever considered the possibility
279
00:17:21,375 --> 00:17:23,791
that that car would be found,
let alone searched.
280
00:17:24,069 --> 00:17:28,470
And I doubt very much
you cleaned it methodically.
281
00:17:28,594 --> 00:17:31,111
And if it's remained sealed
since then
282
00:17:31,274 --> 00:17:34,207
and Hayley's body was kept in there,
283
00:17:34,329 --> 00:17:36,612
there might still be
some forensic evidence.
284
00:17:36,689 --> 00:17:41,229
Hair, carpet fibres from her house,
maybe dried blood.
285
00:17:41,967 --> 00:17:43,717
Stuff we can check.
286
00:17:45,103 --> 00:17:47,055
- Anything to say to that?
- Nothing.
287
00:17:47,132 --> 00:17:50,042
Apart from the fact
that it's rubbish. So, check away.
288
00:17:50,602 --> 00:17:54,089
OK, let's go back to Alison Baldwin.
You say you've never heard of her.
289
00:17:54,970 --> 00:17:56,768
I haven't, I'm afraid.
290
00:17:56,845 --> 00:17:59,048
Where were you working in 1997?
291
00:18:01,429 --> 00:18:02,669
Er...
292
00:18:02,869 --> 00:18:04,672
Crowborough.
Right.
293
00:18:04,749 --> 00:18:06,580
A long way from Earlridge.
294
00:18:06,657 --> 00:18:09,304
What's Earlridge?
Well, I'll tell you.
295
00:18:17,451 --> 00:18:21,789
So, I'm showing the suspect
item 005.
296
00:18:22,959 --> 00:18:25,294
That's a black desk diary.
297
00:18:25,371 --> 00:18:27,015
It's dated 1997.
298
00:18:27,092 --> 00:18:28,779
Do you recognise this diary, Tim?
299
00:18:28,856 --> 00:18:32,421
Maybe. It looks like the sort
I've used in the past.
300
00:18:32,522 --> 00:18:34,529
Well, it looks like it
because it is, in fact, yours.
301
00:18:34,606 --> 00:18:37,023
We found it in a storage room
in your surgery.
302
00:18:39,803 --> 00:18:42,531
Read out to me the entry dated...
303
00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:46,960
..Wednesday, June 25th, 1977.
304
00:18:55,819 --> 00:18:57,148
"Conference.
305
00:18:57,225 --> 00:19:00,210
"Pain management protocols
for chronic conditions."
306
00:19:00,303 --> 00:19:01,851
So this was a conference,
307
00:19:01,928 --> 00:19:04,333
run by a pharmaceutical company,
that you attended.
308
00:19:04,410 --> 00:19:06,286
And there's an arrow in your diary,
309
00:19:06,363 --> 00:19:09,164
indicating that you were there
for two nights.
310
00:19:09,474 --> 00:19:11,095
If you say so.
311
00:19:11,405 --> 00:19:13,296
Can you remember where it was?
No.
312
00:19:13,498 --> 00:19:15,257
Well, it was in Cambridgeshire.
313
00:19:15,530 --> 00:19:19,757
It was in a hotel,
which you also stayed at...
314
00:19:19,905 --> 00:19:23,398
..about five miles
outside of Cambridge itself,
315
00:19:23,592 --> 00:19:26,640
in a small village called Earlridge.
316
00:19:26,866 --> 00:19:31,427
Now, you were there on the nights
of the 25th and the 26th.
317
00:19:31,504 --> 00:19:33,179
And it was on the night of the 26th
318
00:19:33,256 --> 00:19:36,192
that a young girl called Alison
Baldwin went missing in woods,
319
00:19:36,269 --> 00:19:40,250
200 yards from the hotel,
on her way to choir practice.
320
00:19:43,092 --> 00:19:47,179
So, I spoke to the CPS
earlier today...
321
00:19:47,608 --> 00:19:50,607
..to discuss the evidence available.
322
00:19:50,897 --> 00:19:55,234
And it's my belief now,
despite the answers you've given us,
323
00:19:55,365 --> 00:19:57,443
that we have reached
the threshold test
324
00:19:57,520 --> 00:19:59,703
to charge you with both murders.
325
00:20:00,764 --> 00:20:02,034
So don't you think it's time
326
00:20:02,111 --> 00:20:06,843
you gave Hayley and Alison's family
some... comfort
327
00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:10,398
and let them know
what happened to their children?
328
00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:14,445
Can't you just do that for them now?
329
00:20:22,803 --> 00:20:24,991
I'd like a cup of tea, please.
330
00:20:28,225 --> 00:20:30,445
And then maybe...
331
00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:33,830
..I'll go through it all with you.
332
00:20:35,511 --> 00:20:37,381
These girls.
333
00:20:38,557 --> 00:20:40,055
Go through what?
334
00:20:40,522 --> 00:20:42,734
What you just asked for,
what happened to them.
335
00:20:42,811 --> 00:20:44,281
How they died.
336
00:20:46,498 --> 00:20:48,807
Just to be clear, Tim,
337
00:20:49,334 --> 00:20:51,764
are you admitting you did kill them?
338
00:20:52,034 --> 00:20:53,707
Both of them?
339
00:20:57,279 --> 00:20:58,519
I am.
340
00:20:59,498 --> 00:21:03,856
And if we can do this properly...
341
00:21:04,295 --> 00:21:06,820
..if we can do this with respect...
342
00:21:08,389 --> 00:21:14,218
..if we can avoid turning it all
into some sort of sordid circus...
343
00:21:18,537 --> 00:21:21,507
..I'll tell you where the others
are buried, too.
344
00:21:48,443 --> 00:21:51,124
He was always such a vulnerable boy.
345
00:21:51,278 --> 00:21:54,015
Since way before that holiday.
346
00:21:55,014 --> 00:21:58,390
And who knows why things go awry
in the end?
347
00:21:58,482 --> 00:22:01,124
It could have been
because of what happened that night.
348
00:22:01,202 --> 00:22:05,575
Also, equally, it could have been
a thousand other slings and arrows.
349
00:22:05,652 --> 00:22:09,023
Self-inflicted or just... life.
350
00:22:09,865 --> 00:22:12,242
But you did what you did...
351
00:22:12,490 --> 00:22:14,812
..because you loved him.
352
00:22:15,865 --> 00:22:18,656
Love... him.
353
00:22:20,063 --> 00:22:21,732
As do I.
354
00:22:22,369 --> 00:22:23,889
Madly.
355
00:22:24,287 --> 00:22:26,327
And you wanted to protect him.
356
00:22:27,693 --> 00:22:31,663
God knows, being a parent makes
you do stupid things sometimes.
357
00:22:31,930 --> 00:22:33,820
I just want to say...
358
00:22:34,936 --> 00:22:39,390
..please don't destroy yourself
over this.
359
00:22:40,451 --> 00:22:42,168
He's 33.
360
00:22:42,529 --> 00:22:46,338
It's time he tried to start
to own his own life now.
361
00:22:46,506 --> 00:22:48,168
His own mistakes.
362
00:22:49,122 --> 00:22:50,886
And we have to let him.
363
00:22:51,006 --> 00:22:54,367
So I'm not going to call him
for a bit.
364
00:22:54,453 --> 00:22:56,683
Maybe you want to do the same.
365
00:22:57,060 --> 00:23:00,265
I mean, obviously, it's up to you.
366
00:23:04,311 --> 00:23:05,923
Is Amy coming back?
367
00:23:06,045 --> 00:23:07,538
I don't know.
368
00:23:08,826 --> 00:23:11,456
I'd have to change.
Yeah.
369
00:23:11,615 --> 00:23:14,406
Well,
you might want to consider that.
370
00:23:15,381 --> 00:23:17,202
I think she's a good 'un.
371
00:23:18,561 --> 00:23:20,507
Look after yourself.
372
00:23:21,532 --> 00:23:22,850
Mel...
373
00:23:24,601 --> 00:23:25,936
Thank you.
374
00:23:35,952 --> 00:23:38,390
I can't even
begin to imagine
375
00:23:38,467 --> 00:23:40,417
how you must feel right now.
376
00:23:41,459 --> 00:23:43,195
And the only...
377
00:23:43,529 --> 00:23:47,671
..consolation I can offer you
is that I promise you, I promise
378
00:23:47,937 --> 00:23:52,492
we will make sure
that he is never again allowed...
379
00:23:53,227 --> 00:23:55,137
..to hurt anyone...
380
00:23:55,951 --> 00:23:58,585
..the way he hurt Hayley and you.
381
00:24:05,373 --> 00:24:09,222
Having consulted with the Crown
Prosecution Service earlier today,
382
00:24:09,299 --> 00:24:13,216
and following a devoted
and superbly focused investigation,
383
00:24:13,293 --> 00:24:15,358
led by DCI Cassie Stuart,
384
00:24:15,435 --> 00:24:18,591
I can now confirm
that a 59-year-old man
385
00:24:18,668 --> 00:24:22,021
has been charged with the murder
of Hayley Louise Reid
386
00:24:22,098 --> 00:24:24,820
on December 31st, 1999.
387
00:24:24,904 --> 00:24:26,595
Timothy Colin Finch,
388
00:24:26,672 --> 00:24:29,921
of Baynham Road, Hamhurst, Sussex,
389
00:24:30,037 --> 00:24:34,140
has also been charged with the
murder of Alison Bethany Baldwin
390
00:24:34,264 --> 00:24:37,546
on 26th June, 1997,
391
00:24:37,664 --> 00:24:41,499
and he will appear at Marylebone
Magistrates' Court tomorrow morning.
392
00:24:42,107 --> 00:24:45,929
Tonight, he remains in custody
at Bishop Street Station,
393
00:24:46,006 --> 00:24:48,044
where he will continue
to be questioned
394
00:24:48,121 --> 00:24:50,640
in connection
with further possible offences.
395
00:24:50,717 --> 00:24:53,545
I would like to take
this opportunity to once again
396
00:24:53,622 --> 00:24:55,882
offer our most sincere
condolences
397
00:24:55,968 --> 00:24:57,896
to the families of the victims
398
00:24:57,973 --> 00:25:00,687
of these despicable crimes
and assure them
399
00:25:00,787 --> 00:25:02,903
that we will now work tirelessly
400
00:25:02,980 --> 00:25:05,624
to ensure that justice is done.
401
00:25:06,576 --> 00:25:09,068
No, that's not what I said.
402
00:25:09,279 --> 00:25:12,765
Obviously, I killed them
to protect myself.
403
00:25:13,076 --> 00:25:15,316
I'd raped them and,
unless I killed them,
404
00:25:15,393 --> 00:25:18,742
they were going to report me
and I was going to go to prison.
405
00:25:20,668 --> 00:25:24,468
No, what I'm baffled by...
406
00:25:24,780 --> 00:25:29,923
..is how I'm able to perform such
appalling acts in the first place.
407
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,601
Do you feel any guilt
for what you've done?
408
00:25:32,952 --> 00:25:34,867
Do I feel any?
409
00:25:35,076 --> 00:25:36,279
No.
410
00:25:36,828 --> 00:25:40,820
On an intellectual level,
I understand the pain I've caused.
411
00:25:41,248 --> 00:25:44,881
But on an emotional level,
no, I feel nothing.
412
00:25:44,958 --> 00:25:47,851
Do you think you're capable
of feelings?
413
00:25:48,850 --> 00:25:52,114
For my children, yes,
there's definitely something there.
414
00:25:52,191 --> 00:25:55,960
And I feel anger on occasion.
But apart from that, probably not.
415
00:25:56,131 --> 00:25:59,396
So no feelings for your patients
or your friends.
416
00:25:59,522 --> 00:26:01,671
If I never saw
any of my friends again
417
00:26:01,748 --> 00:26:03,781
it wouldn't bother me
in the slightest.
418
00:26:06,193 --> 00:26:10,285
That's not exhausting,
all that pretence?
419
00:26:10,732 --> 00:26:12,146
No, I've done it my whole life.
420
00:26:12,223 --> 00:26:16,210
So, to me,
pretending is just second nature.
421
00:26:16,772 --> 00:26:20,066
All of which,
as I'm sure you'll know,
422
00:26:20,193 --> 00:26:24,437
suggests I'm pretty much a...
textbook psychopath.
423
00:26:24,514 --> 00:26:28,416
Above average intelligence,
superficially charming,
424
00:26:28,592 --> 00:26:31,234
zero empathy.
But how did that happen?
425
00:26:31,873 --> 00:26:35,742
Well, then, we're down to the
old nature-versus-nurture debate.
426
00:26:36,693 --> 00:26:39,978
I think the consensus now
is that it's a bit of both,
427
00:26:40,256 --> 00:26:44,687
genetic tendency, in conjunction
with some life experience,
428
00:26:44,764 --> 00:26:46,406
particularly in childhood.
429
00:26:46,525 --> 00:26:51,867
And, yes, my father was cold
and unloving, sometimes violent.
430
00:26:52,553 --> 00:26:57,640
Yes, my mother compensated
with a suffocating love.
431
00:26:58,338 --> 00:27:00,351
Except, if it was that,
432
00:27:00,826 --> 00:27:05,921
then how come my sister
isn't a serial killer?
433
00:27:06,818 --> 00:27:10,038
As I say,
it's baffling.
434
00:27:12,470 --> 00:27:17,213
And would you say sex was
the primary driver for your crimes?
435
00:27:17,290 --> 00:27:19,058
It was the only driver.
436
00:27:19,728 --> 00:27:23,125
Specifically, my unnatural obsession
with adolescent girls
437
00:27:23,202 --> 00:27:25,503
between the ages of 13 and 15.
438
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:26,766
Children.
439
00:27:26,936 --> 00:27:28,486
Adolescents.
440
00:27:28,868 --> 00:27:32,045
Ephebophilia
is a very specific perversion.
441
00:27:32,236 --> 00:27:34,151
And when did this start?
442
00:27:35,578 --> 00:27:38,284
The obsession started young.
443
00:27:38,993 --> 00:27:40,963
Early 20s, I'd say.
444
00:27:41,126 --> 00:27:43,996
And what started it, do you think?
445
00:27:44,079 --> 00:27:46,429
Again, I have no idea, I'm afraid.
446
00:27:46,915 --> 00:27:49,448
These things
are often the result of...
447
00:27:49,999 --> 00:27:54,166
..some significant event
at the pertinent age.
448
00:27:54,376 --> 00:28:00,080
The idea being that said event then
arrests psycho-sexual development.
449
00:28:00,775 --> 00:28:02,310
And so I'd love to be able
to tell you
450
00:28:02,387 --> 00:28:04,690
that I witnessed my father,
I don't know, erm...
451
00:28:04,895 --> 00:28:07,445
..raping my sister
when she was 14 or something.
452
00:28:07,522 --> 00:28:09,078
But it didn't happen.
453
00:28:09,608 --> 00:28:11,768
So again, baffled.
454
00:28:12,349 --> 00:28:13,696
Sorry.
455
00:28:17,266 --> 00:28:19,096
And Hayley...
456
00:28:29,204 --> 00:28:32,916
Can you tell us what happened
the night she died?
457
00:28:34,353 --> 00:28:37,171
Well, wrong time, wrong place,
I guess,
458
00:28:37,248 --> 00:28:38,940
would be the way I'd put it.
459
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:42,721
I was out looking for Chris.
460
00:28:43,273 --> 00:28:47,135
I'd been out
for about ten minutes or so.
461
00:28:47,788 --> 00:28:51,135
It was raining and...
462
00:28:51,249 --> 00:28:53,299
..I was in a bad mood.
463
00:28:54,648 --> 00:28:56,398
And then she just...
464
00:28:57,243 --> 00:29:00,034
..appeared out of the dark.
465
00:29:01,345 --> 00:29:03,948
I recognised her from the house.
466
00:29:05,337 --> 00:29:08,440
In fact, I'd masturbated about her
several times already.
467
00:29:08,843 --> 00:29:12,690
So, basically,
the opportunity seemed just...
468
00:29:13,024 --> 00:29:15,094
..too good to miss.
469
00:29:15,329 --> 00:29:18,557
And so, how did it happen,
the actual assault?
470
00:29:23,838 --> 00:29:26,291
Well, I said hello.
471
00:29:27,088 --> 00:29:29,112
And she said hello back.
472
00:29:30,718 --> 00:29:35,815
And then she passed by me
quite speedily, as I remember.
473
00:29:35,923 --> 00:29:38,338
I think she was probably
a little scared.
474
00:29:39,321 --> 00:29:41,951
And then, after she'd passed, I...
475
00:29:42,479 --> 00:29:44,869
..swung round and just...
476
00:29:45,243 --> 00:29:47,674
..grabbed her from behind,
round the neck.
477
00:29:48,103 --> 00:29:49,938
And she let out a little yelp,
478
00:29:50,015 --> 00:29:52,438
but I put my hand over her mouth
479
00:29:52,638 --> 00:29:55,828
and told her that, if she didn't
struggle, I wouldn't hurt her.
480
00:29:59,928 --> 00:30:01,168
OK.
481
00:30:02,564 --> 00:30:04,074
And then...
482
00:30:05,189 --> 00:30:07,086
..you what, you er...
483
00:30:07,173 --> 00:30:09,435
..you led her away from the path?
484
00:30:11,556 --> 00:30:12,626
Yes.
485
00:30:12,817 --> 00:30:15,677
50 yards or so into the woods.
486
00:30:16,338 --> 00:30:20,505
It was quite near the car park,
I later discovered, which was...
487
00:30:21,188 --> 00:30:23,818
..just good fortune.
I hadn't planned it.
488
00:30:31,521 --> 00:30:33,201
And then?
489
00:30:34,801 --> 00:30:39,075
And then I made her lay down
in the undergrowth...
490
00:30:39,878 --> 00:30:41,668
..and we had sex.
491
00:30:42,402 --> 00:30:43,989
You raped her.
492
00:30:45,191 --> 00:30:48,021
Yes. Apologies, I raped her.
493
00:30:49,788 --> 00:30:52,298
- Just once?
- Yes.
494
00:30:52,783 --> 00:30:53,974
And then?
495
00:30:54,051 --> 00:30:55,786
Then I strangled her.
496
00:30:58,113 --> 00:31:00,930
And for what it's worth...
497
00:31:01,677 --> 00:31:06,177
though death from strangulation
can take up to two to three minutes,
498
00:31:06,254 --> 00:31:09,128
unconsciousness
comes in as little as ten seconds,
499
00:31:09,205 --> 00:31:10,908
certainly no more than 20,
500
00:31:11,371 --> 00:31:13,231
so there was very little pain.
501
00:31:13,632 --> 00:31:15,383
Same with Alison.
502
00:31:15,511 --> 00:31:19,372
Please do reassure their families
about that.
503
00:31:22,269 --> 00:31:26,216
Was she your first, Alison Baldwin?
504
00:31:29,326 --> 00:31:30,686
So...
505
00:31:32,058 --> 00:31:35,020
..I intend to treat you
with respect.
506
00:31:35,097 --> 00:31:38,692
I hope you'll afford me
the same consideration.
507
00:31:39,128 --> 00:31:42,606
But, really, the most important
people here are the victims.
508
00:31:43,369 --> 00:31:44,529
So...
509
00:31:45,207 --> 00:31:48,593
..if I agree to take you somewhere,
as I said yesterday,
510
00:31:48,670 --> 00:31:53,083
no press, no cameras... no circus.
511
00:31:54,753 --> 00:31:57,239
- No circus.
- OK.
512
00:31:57,497 --> 00:31:59,367
There's somewhere...
513
00:32:00,738 --> 00:32:05,395
..less than an hour from here,
I think you'll be interested in.
514
00:32:10,499 --> 00:32:12,449
Tomorrow, then.
515
00:32:12,858 --> 00:32:14,414
First thing.
516
00:32:36,225 --> 00:32:37,788
Are you OK?
517
00:32:37,865 --> 00:32:39,168
Fine.
518
00:32:44,848 --> 00:32:47,179
I don't know
if he's playing a game...
519
00:32:47,980 --> 00:32:49,859
..if there are more.
520
00:32:50,148 --> 00:32:52,257
But, Jesus, whatever he's doing,
521
00:32:52,530 --> 00:32:56,101
I think that's the closest thing
to evil I've ever witnessed.
522
00:32:59,768 --> 00:33:02,349
We leave early tomorrow, before
seven, beat the traffic.
523
00:33:02,426 --> 00:33:03,506
Right.
524
00:33:04,928 --> 00:33:06,508
Night, boss.
525
00:33:27,457 --> 00:33:29,287
But what about Sal?
526
00:33:29,864 --> 00:33:32,464
I just have to deal with that.
But like I said...
527
00:33:33,305 --> 00:33:34,814
..it's whatever you guys want
528
00:33:34,891 --> 00:33:38,225
that... is the only thing
that matters to me.
529
00:33:39,694 --> 00:33:43,084
We love Mum, Dad. Of course we do.
530
00:33:43,248 --> 00:33:46,467
And we were, like,
so sad when you two split.
531
00:33:46,933 --> 00:33:48,253
But...
532
00:33:48,476 --> 00:33:50,928
..you've been happier
in the last nine months
533
00:33:51,007 --> 00:33:52,857
than we've seen you in years.
534
00:33:54,637 --> 00:33:56,537
You're with Sal now.
535
00:33:56,893 --> 00:33:59,342
And that's the Dad we like best.
536
00:34:01,714 --> 00:34:03,100
What's she said?
537
00:34:05,702 --> 00:34:06,902
Come here.
538
00:34:07,864 --> 00:34:09,856
You two...
539
00:34:32,605 --> 00:34:34,155
I meant to ask...
540
00:34:35,184 --> 00:34:39,447
Why did you bury her where you did,
Hayley, in the middle of a motorway?
541
00:34:39,524 --> 00:34:41,645
To see if I could get away with it.
542
00:34:42,647 --> 00:34:44,437
Childish, really.
543
00:34:45,559 --> 00:34:47,189
Tempting fate.
544
00:34:48,906 --> 00:34:50,580
But it just appealed.
545
00:34:52,236 --> 00:34:56,275
Do you know what, there were workmen
less than 100 yards away.
546
00:34:57,209 --> 00:34:59,408
Not one of them batted an eyelid.
547
00:35:10,064 --> 00:35:11,224
Here.
548
00:35:58,544 --> 00:36:00,064
Up there.
549
00:36:27,235 --> 00:36:28,985
Stop. Stop. Stop.
550
00:36:36,530 --> 00:36:38,455
Her name was Natasha.
551
00:36:39,842 --> 00:36:41,947
I took her six years ago.
552
00:36:42,607 --> 00:36:46,119
And, no, Alison wasn't my first.
553
00:36:59,914 --> 00:37:01,196
Boss?
554
00:37:09,425 --> 00:37:10,737
No more.
555
00:37:35,177 --> 00:37:36,600
There you are.
556
00:37:38,590 --> 00:37:39,943
Come.
557
00:37:42,005 --> 00:37:45,522
Jesus, Mila, I've been waiting
to hear from you for days.
558
00:37:45,599 --> 00:37:46,895
I've not known what to think.
559
00:37:46,972 --> 00:37:50,178
And then you greet me with a smile,
like, "Yeah, it's all fine."
560
00:37:50,286 --> 00:37:52,147
I had to know
who you were, Chris,
561
00:37:52,224 --> 00:37:54,661
and I only found that out for sure
yesterday.
562
00:37:54,738 --> 00:37:56,788
No, I told you about the murder,
563
00:37:56,865 --> 00:37:58,850
a-a-about the credit card stuff.
I told you.
564
00:37:58,927 --> 00:38:00,364
And do you think
I should have just believed you?
565
00:38:00,441 --> 00:38:03,077
Yeah, I think you should have had
a bit of faith, yeah.
566
00:38:05,738 --> 00:38:07,412
I used to have faith.
567
00:38:07,693 --> 00:38:10,452
Faith that life would be good for me
and my family.
568
00:38:10,794 --> 00:38:13,684
That my son would grow up
with a mother and father
569
00:38:13,761 --> 00:38:17,155
in our beautiful home,
in our beautiful country...
570
00:38:17,857 --> 00:38:22,827
..and become a doctor or a lawyer
or a professor.
571
00:38:26,638 --> 00:38:29,538
And then, one day,
a barrel bomb exploded and...
572
00:38:30,207 --> 00:38:33,263
..pieces of my husband's head
landed in our garden.
573
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:37,310
So now I don't have in faith.
574
00:38:39,403 --> 00:38:41,249
I believe in facts.
575
00:38:41,326 --> 00:38:44,147
Which is why I went and spoke
to the officers
576
00:38:44,224 --> 00:38:46,756
who investigated you
about the credit card...
577
00:38:48,169 --> 00:38:51,100
..and asked them to tell me
if what you'd said was true.
578
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:54,428
Which they did.
579
00:38:55,279 --> 00:38:58,131
And then I saw the news
about Hayley's killer.
580
00:38:58,779 --> 00:39:01,085
And so now, like you...
581
00:39:01,740 --> 00:39:04,178
..I think we could be very happy
together.
582
00:39:06,435 --> 00:39:08,553
But I understand I've hurt you.
583
00:39:08,685 --> 00:39:12,530
I can't apologise for what I did
because I feel I had no choice
584
00:39:13,724 --> 00:39:16,421
But I am sorry if you're in pain.
585
00:39:21,318 --> 00:39:24,342
And I hope we can repair that damage
together.
586
00:39:29,005 --> 00:39:33,171
Can I sleep with you tonight?
It's so cold in the van.
587
00:39:40,318 --> 00:39:43,131
You'll never have to sleep there
again.
588
00:39:56,169 --> 00:39:59,467
And I know you only stayed
because of me,
589
00:39:59,615 --> 00:40:02,178
because I felt a connection
to her here.
590
00:40:02,607 --> 00:40:06,381
But I don't any more, Jessie.
So you want to leave?
591
00:40:06,982 --> 00:40:09,655
You, me and Hayley.
592
00:40:23,721 --> 00:40:26,647
And we bury her somewhere beautiful,
Mum.
593
00:40:27,005 --> 00:40:29,366
So we can see her every day
594
00:40:29,466 --> 00:40:32,155
and remember her and smile
595
00:40:32,255 --> 00:40:35,186
and be grateful
for the time that she had...
596
00:40:35,740 --> 00:40:37,999
..and the time that we had with her.
597
00:40:38,076 --> 00:40:40,819
And Dad will visit
and we'll visit him.
598
00:40:41,216 --> 00:40:44,139
And we'll be happy, Jessie.
599
00:40:44,279 --> 00:40:46,186
I insist on it.
600
00:40:47,787 --> 00:40:49,617
We'll be happy.
601
00:41:11,696 --> 00:41:14,088
Oh, there you are.
602
00:41:14,165 --> 00:41:16,346
We've been so worried about you.
603
00:41:16,603 --> 00:41:18,313
I went for a walk.
604
00:41:22,969 --> 00:41:24,959
Let's get the jacket off.
605
00:41:26,024 --> 00:41:27,792
There we are.
606
00:41:28,352 --> 00:41:31,244
Go into the kitchen,
I'll get you a towel.
607
00:41:37,673 --> 00:41:40,674
Here we are.
Let's get this around you.
608
00:41:41,845 --> 00:41:45,096
Go and sit down,
I'll get you a cup of tea.
609
00:41:51,591 --> 00:41:53,490
I'm sorry, Dad.
610
00:41:53,597 --> 00:41:55,267
Sorry for what?
611
00:42:00,805 --> 00:42:02,686
You were right.
612
00:42:05,929 --> 00:42:07,719
I was lonely.
613
00:42:10,755 --> 00:42:11,926
And scared.
614
00:42:12,003 --> 00:42:13,800
And I didn't...
615
00:42:13,877 --> 00:42:16,107
..I didn't want you to leave.
616
00:42:18,814 --> 00:42:20,604
Maybe you...
617
00:42:21,792 --> 00:42:24,287
..you weren't so wrong, after all.
618
00:42:24,622 --> 00:42:26,997
Maybe I am getting a bit...
619
00:42:27,176 --> 00:42:28,920
..forgetful.
620
00:42:30,742 --> 00:42:33,214
But that's not what's important
right now.
621
00:42:33,291 --> 00:42:36,287
What's important
is getting you well.
622
00:42:37,382 --> 00:42:39,012
So I thought...
623
00:42:39,723 --> 00:42:42,053
..maybe you might need to...
624
00:42:43,305 --> 00:42:45,236
..to take some time off.
625
00:42:45,313 --> 00:42:47,783
Maybe you might need
a bit of rest, eh?
626
00:42:48,802 --> 00:42:50,537
I think I'd like that.
627
00:42:55,056 --> 00:42:57,131
I think I'd like that very much.
628
00:43:03,384 --> 00:43:04,864
I'm cold.
629
00:43:10,051 --> 00:43:11,384
It doesn't work, that.
630
00:43:11,461 --> 00:43:13,389
You know that, Tim.
631
00:43:14,619 --> 00:43:17,350
We can look into getting you
some new books...
632
00:43:18,191 --> 00:43:20,990
..if you give us
some useful information.
633
00:43:21,447 --> 00:43:23,967
The information has to come first.
634
00:43:26,512 --> 00:43:30,521
And what do you think the papers
will make of your unwillingness...
635
00:43:30,761 --> 00:43:32,683
..to help the grieving families?
636
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:35,764
I'm not entirely sure
they'd see it like that.
637
00:43:37,899 --> 00:43:40,521
And how is DCI Stuart?
638
00:43:42,267 --> 00:43:45,357
Do we think
she'll ever return to work?
639
00:43:47,075 --> 00:43:49,732
Are we wasting our time here today?
640
00:43:52,262 --> 00:43:54,540
You must have been very pretty
when you were younger.
641
00:43:54,617 --> 00:43:56,420
OK, we're done
642
00:43:57,101 --> 00:43:59,100
We'll see you in a month, Tim.
643
00:43:59,351 --> 00:44:01,102
And do us a favour, next time,
644
00:44:01,179 --> 00:44:04,006
spare us
the Silence Of The Lambs shtick, OK?
645
00:44:06,165 --> 00:44:07,850
Tewkam Wold.
646
00:44:09,682 --> 00:44:12,045
It's a village south of Lincoln.
647
00:44:14,978 --> 00:44:17,328
Her name was Victoria.
648
00:44:47,435 --> 00:44:51,882
In the name of the Father
and the Son and the Holy Ghost.
649
00:44:51,959 --> 00:44:53,381
Amen.
650
00:45:12,462 --> 00:45:14,008
And we got your invite.
651
00:45:14,085 --> 00:45:15,304
Yeah, can you come?
652
00:45:15,381 --> 00:45:18,076
Wouldn't miss it for the world.
I'm just...
653
00:45:18,272 --> 00:45:20,173
I'm so happy for you, Chris.
654
00:45:20,287 --> 00:45:24,526
Well, you wait till you meet her,
because I've been incredibly lucky.
655
00:45:24,605 --> 00:45:26,447
I think we both have.
656
00:45:28,472 --> 00:45:30,428
Well, I've got to go. Uh.
657
00:45:30,505 --> 00:45:33,377
We're having our first scan
this afternoon.
658
00:45:33,605 --> 00:45:34,916
- No!
- Yeah.
659
00:45:34,993 --> 00:45:37,643
Yeah, I'm a glutton for punishment.
660
00:45:37,765 --> 00:45:40,319
Oh, Chris!
661
00:45:40,396 --> 00:45:41,950
Congratulations, mate!
662
00:45:42,027 --> 00:45:43,584
Mind you, you're completely nuts.
663
00:45:45,946 --> 00:45:49,236
I don't think anything
has ever felt so right.
664
00:45:49,313 --> 00:45:50,588
Brilliant news.
665
00:45:50,665 --> 00:45:53,166
Just... brilliant.
666
00:45:55,076 --> 00:45:56,431
You...
667
00:45:58,100 --> 00:45:59,963
You look after yourself.
668
00:46:02,016 --> 00:46:03,354
I love you, mate.
669
00:46:03,431 --> 00:46:05,212
I love you, too.
670
00:46:23,641 --> 00:46:25,309
Are you OK?
671
00:46:25,386 --> 00:46:26,669
Mm.
672
00:46:26,893 --> 00:46:28,293
I'm fine.
673
00:46:32,677 --> 00:46:34,213
Here we are.
674
00:46:45,220 --> 00:46:47,008
Won't be long.
675
00:46:52,750 --> 00:46:54,300
Hello, stranger.
676
00:46:54,531 --> 00:46:56,121
Hello, boss.
677
00:46:59,046 --> 00:47:00,419
I've missed you.
678
00:47:00,496 --> 00:47:02,273
I've missed you, too.
679
00:47:08,913 --> 00:47:10,477
Are you well?
680
00:47:10,873 --> 00:47:12,196
Surviving.
681
00:47:12,718 --> 00:47:14,132
How are the girls?
682
00:47:14,209 --> 00:47:17,078
- Oh, they're fine, thanks.
- And Sal?
683
00:47:17,352 --> 00:47:18,600
Yeah.
684
00:47:18,769 --> 00:47:21,656
Yeah, it's a journey.
Getting there, I think.
685
00:47:22,396 --> 00:47:23,585
And you?
686
00:47:23,715 --> 00:47:25,970
- Yeah, getting there, too.
- Yeah?
687
00:47:26,092 --> 00:47:29,226
Still just... very tired.
688
00:47:30,069 --> 00:47:32,139
30 years. It's a long time.
689
00:47:33,750 --> 00:47:35,070
It is.
690
00:47:36,297 --> 00:47:38,016
And maybe long enough.
691
00:47:40,731 --> 00:47:42,945
So, I see stuff all in the papers.
692
00:47:43,022 --> 00:47:44,884
Yeah, yeah, yeah, ongoing.
693
00:47:47,201 --> 00:47:48,991
And are you OK?
694
00:47:51,358 --> 00:47:53,219
I leave it at the office.
695
00:47:54,471 --> 00:47:55,899
He's a nothing.
696
00:47:55,976 --> 00:47:58,523
Not worthy of my energy
anywhere but work.
697
00:48:01,136 --> 00:48:02,586
They're beautiful.
698
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:04,950
They were her favourites.
699
00:48:05,243 --> 00:48:07,658
They symbolise fresh starts,
apparently.
700
00:48:07,735 --> 00:48:09,344
Seems about right.
701
00:48:13,715 --> 00:48:15,508
Shall we go and see her, then?
702
00:48:15,904 --> 00:48:17,210
Let's.
703
00:48:19,547 --> 00:48:21,552
Hello.
704
00:49:02,998 --> 00:49:06,163
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