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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,833 --> 00:00:02,400 [eerie music] 2 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 3 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:07,400 - I can say, I can sit here, and say right now, 4 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 5 00:00:09,766 --> 00:00:11,833 I got a calling to do self portraits 6 00:00:11,833 --> 00:00:14,833 everyday for the rest of my life until I die. 7 00:00:14,833 --> 00:00:17,766 But that's not necessarily being honest 8 00:00:17,766 --> 00:00:22,766 because there's some thought involved with that. 9 00:00:25,166 --> 00:00:27,700 It didn't take a supernatural being 10 00:00:27,700 --> 00:00:31,033 or some magical thing to happen; 11 00:00:31,033 --> 00:00:33,200 it was just a decision I made, 12 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:36,100 a logical, rational decision I made. 13 00:00:36,100 --> 00:00:39,033 And then all this other stuff, everything else, 14 00:00:39,033 --> 00:00:42,800 just all this bloomed out of that. 15 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:47,800 [eerie music] 16 00:01:38,100 --> 00:01:41,200 There might be some desperation there, 17 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:44,500 where you feel desperate, like you're alone. 18 00:01:44,500 --> 00:01:46,266 Maybe for me personally, I'm like, 19 00:01:46,266 --> 00:01:49,433 "Oh, I'm alone in the world," or something, 20 00:01:49,433 --> 00:01:53,733 or maybe I thought no one understood me. 21 00:01:53,733 --> 00:01:56,466 You know, whatever type of negatives-- 22 00:01:56,466 --> 00:01:57,900 Part of me, with the self-portraits, 23 00:01:57,900 --> 00:02:02,066 wants to get as much experience out of life as possible 24 00:02:02,066 --> 00:02:06,166 so that by the time that I die 25 00:02:06,233 --> 00:02:08,433 I will have really lived a full life. 26 00:02:08,966 --> 00:02:11,733 I really don't like it when people say that, 27 00:02:11,733 --> 00:02:14,633 "I was chosen," or "Painting's my calling, 28 00:02:14,633 --> 00:02:19,633 "I can't imagine without it," or something like that 29 00:02:19,733 --> 00:02:24,133 because it tries to make it a mysterious type of thing. 30 00:02:24,133 --> 00:02:26,433 So, like, someone with some depression 31 00:02:26,433 --> 00:02:29,900 or low self esteem and beats them self up 32 00:02:29,900 --> 00:02:33,133 or someone that's a little bit psychotic, 33 00:02:33,133 --> 00:02:37,133 maybe even have a whole bunch of psychotic in them. 34 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:40,900 It just creates all this baggage 35 00:02:40,900 --> 00:02:44,200 that they don't need when they just want to-- 36 00:02:45,366 --> 00:02:50,366 They just need a little bit of encouragement and self worth. 37 00:02:50,966 --> 00:02:53,900 Sometimes I'm easily excitable 38 00:02:53,900 --> 00:02:57,100 so I can get really outrageous. 39 00:02:57,100 --> 00:02:59,766 I get on the bullhorn and yell at people on the streets 40 00:02:59,766 --> 00:03:01,333 and just act up and stuff. 41 00:03:01,333 --> 00:03:04,300 I don't get depressed too much 42 00:03:04,300 --> 00:03:07,866 more of some mania, but not really too bad 43 00:03:07,866 --> 00:03:11,200 where it can't be kept in check. 44 00:03:11,500 --> 00:03:13,700 Ever since I got in that knife fight 45 00:03:13,700 --> 00:03:18,700 and went to prison, I always knew, "Don't carry a knife." 46 00:03:19,233 --> 00:03:20,700 If you don't have a knife in your pocket 47 00:03:20,700 --> 00:03:24,166 you can never use it, you can never stab someone, ever, 48 00:03:24,166 --> 00:03:27,133 if you don't have a knife. 49 00:03:27,133 --> 00:03:31,066 I never stabbed anyone after that. 50 00:03:31,066 --> 00:03:34,200 But then, I did cut-- 51 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:36,100 I was just so much of a trouble maker then 52 00:03:36,100 --> 00:03:37,633 and doing so many terrible things 53 00:03:37,633 --> 00:03:41,066 that I didn't really get to stay with it-- 54 00:03:41,066 --> 00:03:46,066 I always liked art, and stuff, but it wasn't until 55 00:03:47,100 --> 00:03:49,800 I went to East Tennessee State University 56 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:53,600 that I really saw that I could use it to help me 57 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:58,100 psychologically and emotionally and socially. 58 00:03:58,100 --> 00:04:03,100 [deep piano music] 59 00:04:27,466 --> 00:04:31,166 I don't have a lot of joy. 60 00:04:34,933 --> 00:04:39,433 Doing the self portraits I get some joy from 61 00:04:39,433 --> 00:04:42,666 because I know that no matter whatever happens to me, 62 00:04:42,666 --> 00:04:47,666 unless I'm in a coma, or have a severe stroke, 63 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:54,100 or frontal lobe damage, there's no way that I would-- 64 00:04:54,100 --> 00:04:56,700 I think even if I had frontal lobe damage 65 00:04:56,700 --> 00:05:00,066 I would still be able to draw my self-portrait everyday. 66 00:05:00,066 --> 00:05:02,300 I think, by now, I would not forget. 67 00:05:02,300 --> 00:05:05,633 I think it's so much a part of my daily life. 68 00:05:05,633 --> 00:05:08,266 Like eating or something, I might forget to eat, 69 00:05:08,266 --> 00:05:11,366 I might forget to bathe, or something like this, 70 00:05:11,433 --> 00:05:14,866 just because I'm wrapped all up in art. 71 00:05:14,866 --> 00:05:19,866 [dramatic music] 72 00:05:37,633 --> 00:05:42,266 [traffic] 73 00:05:43,333 --> 00:05:48,300 [light music] 74 00:05:51,966 --> 00:05:56,166 When it comes to the dark side in the arts 75 00:05:56,166 --> 00:06:00,600 and the tortured soul and the tortured artist, 76 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:05,566 teachers, educators, and people will like to say that, 77 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:11,066 "That's a myth and that you don't really need that." 78 00:06:11,066 --> 00:06:16,066 But there is some kind of connection there. 79 00:06:16,266 --> 00:06:20,266 I'm not going to lie, there is some kind of a connection 80 00:06:20,266 --> 00:06:25,200 because a person that is a tortured soul 81 00:06:26,700 --> 00:06:31,166 is a frustrated person, a person that has 82 00:06:31,166 --> 00:06:33,033 some kind of inner demons, or maybe 83 00:06:33,033 --> 00:06:37,033 they don't like mankind, or maybe there's things, 84 00:06:37,033 --> 00:06:39,966 like they love animals and they don't like people; 85 00:06:39,966 --> 00:06:42,933 the way people treat animals, or maybe they 86 00:06:42,933 --> 00:06:46,500 have real serious problems that 87 00:06:46,500 --> 00:06:50,533 they're witness to in these times. 88 00:06:50,533 --> 00:06:54,600 And it bothers them and creates a conflict in them 89 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:59,600 and then they have no way to really express it. 90 00:07:00,633 --> 00:07:03,966 Art is the best way to express things culturally. 91 00:07:03,966 --> 00:07:08,633 You can go to church and witness, and give your testimony 92 00:07:08,633 --> 00:07:10,833 and say, "Oh, this terrible thing's happened," 93 00:07:10,833 --> 00:07:14,266 and stuff, and you have a support network in a church 94 00:07:14,266 --> 00:07:17,266 and stuff like that, but you don't-- 95 00:07:18,066 --> 00:07:20,933 It's not your own pulpit, like art. 96 00:07:20,933 --> 00:07:22,266 You're a congegration member 97 00:07:22,266 --> 00:07:24,366 or something, and you get a little bit of time 98 00:07:24,366 --> 00:07:26,133 to ask for a prayer, or something like that. 99 00:07:26,133 --> 00:07:30,800 But art is like, you're the preacher, 100 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:33,633 you're the pulpit, so it gives-- 101 00:07:33,633 --> 00:07:35,800 I think it's a great motivational thing, 102 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:39,100 the dark side, I'm not afraid of it at all. 103 00:07:39,100 --> 00:07:42,300 I'm not afraid to face that because 104 00:07:43,300 --> 00:07:45,666 I'm inspired, by a lot of that 105 00:07:45,666 --> 00:07:49,033 and I'm inspired by some desperation. 106 00:07:49,033 --> 00:07:51,100 Someone a long time ago said, 107 00:07:51,100 --> 00:07:55,133 "Desperation was a great inspirer." 108 00:07:55,666 --> 00:07:59,700 Feeling desperate, and then still continuing 109 00:07:59,700 --> 00:08:03,766 down your artistic path is a great inspirer. 110 00:08:03,766 --> 00:08:08,766 [deep piano music] 111 00:08:31,700 --> 00:08:35,900 The self portraits, I used them 112 00:08:35,900 --> 00:08:38,366 for long time I would tell people 113 00:08:38,366 --> 00:08:40,366 I was growing my feelings. 114 00:08:40,366 --> 00:08:42,333 I was using them to grow my feelings 115 00:08:42,333 --> 00:08:46,166 because I kind of had some sociopathic tendencies 116 00:08:46,166 --> 00:08:50,233 but a lot of people wouldn't necessarily see it 117 00:08:50,233 --> 00:08:52,533 because I can pretend. 118 00:08:52,533 --> 00:08:55,000 I see how other people that are emotional 119 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:57,700 all the time, and I can imitate it to-- 120 00:08:57,700 --> 00:09:00,933 not a great actor, like a professional type of actor 121 00:09:00,933 --> 00:09:04,966 but I can act like I feelings really well. 122 00:09:05,333 --> 00:09:07,566 But I would use the self-portraits 123 00:09:07,566 --> 00:09:10,066 to put my real feelings in there; 124 00:09:10,066 --> 00:09:11,733 I called it my true feelings. 125 00:09:11,733 --> 00:09:14,066 I would use the self-portraits everyday 126 00:09:14,066 --> 00:09:19,066 as a way of purging the negative feelings 127 00:09:19,933 --> 00:09:24,633 and allowing myself to have more positive feelings; 128 00:09:24,633 --> 00:09:29,000 dealing with stress daily, like a therapy. 129 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,266 So I think it's really helped a lot. 130 00:09:31,266 --> 00:09:36,100 [dramatic music] 131 00:10:14,900 --> 00:10:17,266 I don't know if there was a magic, eureka moment, 132 00:10:17,266 --> 00:10:18,966 I don't know if I ever experienced 133 00:10:18,966 --> 00:10:22,833 a magical, eureka moment where I would say, 134 00:10:22,833 --> 00:10:26,733 "I'm going to be a professional, full-time artist." 135 00:10:26,733 --> 00:10:31,433 But I know the day I drew the first self-portrait 136 00:10:32,666 --> 00:10:36,200 and the series of all of them in my life 137 00:10:37,266 --> 00:10:40,166 I knew this was my life calling 138 00:10:40,166 --> 00:10:45,166 because I knew that the possibilities 139 00:10:47,100 --> 00:10:49,333 were endless and infinite. 140 00:10:49,333 --> 00:10:53,500 And I can do them under any circumstances; 141 00:10:53,500 --> 00:10:56,466 if I have a headache, I do a headache one. 142 00:10:56,466 --> 00:10:59,966 I have insomnia or something, I can do an insomnia one, 143 00:10:59,966 --> 00:11:04,733 if I'm totally exhausted I'll draw till I fall asleep. 144 00:11:04,733 --> 00:11:07,000 No matter what the circumstances are 145 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:09,833 I can do a self-portrait. 146 00:11:11,166 --> 00:11:15,400 It's really ingrained in my central nervous system. 147 00:11:16,533 --> 00:11:21,533 January 6, 1999, I'd been doing a self-portrait 148 00:11:23,033 --> 00:11:27,700 everyday since March 30 of '95 149 00:11:27,700 --> 00:11:30,400 and had never missed a day. 150 00:11:31,900 --> 00:11:35,233 After I did this one, I realized 151 00:11:35,233 --> 00:11:38,500 there's no way I will ever miss a day. 152 00:11:38,500 --> 00:11:42,233 I didn't remember doing it, I had gotten 153 00:11:42,233 --> 00:11:46,266 into that argument with that girl in the other book 154 00:11:46,266 --> 00:11:48,533 where we were breaking up or something. 155 00:11:48,533 --> 00:11:51,833 Well I got really drunk on some cheap liquor 156 00:11:51,833 --> 00:11:56,833 early times and it was a snowstorm, like a blizzard. 157 00:11:58,300 --> 00:12:01,266 I just remember getting lost and falling down in the snow 158 00:12:01,266 --> 00:12:04,133 and I kept finding my way back to the liquor store. 159 00:12:04,133 --> 00:12:06,766 Then I ended up at this girl's house 160 00:12:06,766 --> 00:12:10,833 and she let me in and then I spent the night there, 161 00:12:10,833 --> 00:12:13,000 or whatever, and she took me back the next day. 162 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:17,366 And I felt so hungover and just awful 163 00:12:17,366 --> 00:12:19,966 and I thought, "Oh man," on the ride back, 164 00:12:19,966 --> 00:12:23,266 I was like, "I did not even do my self-portrait yesterday. 165 00:12:23,266 --> 00:12:25,866 "Oh my god, I missed a day, I can't believe it." 166 00:12:25,866 --> 00:12:28,333 Then when I came into the office 167 00:12:28,333 --> 00:12:31,233 I opened up the door and my book was laid out 168 00:12:31,233 --> 00:12:34,866 just like this, and that picture was on the page. 169 00:12:34,866 --> 00:12:37,566 And I was like, "Oh my gosh," and she 170 00:12:37,566 --> 00:12:39,600 was there with me and she looked at it and said, 171 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:43,066 "You sounded exactly like that on the phone. 172 00:12:43,066 --> 00:12:44,866 "You sounded exactly like that." 173 00:12:44,866 --> 00:12:46,233 And that's when I knew, because it 174 00:12:46,233 --> 00:12:47,966 was like a drunken blackout, 175 00:12:47,966 --> 00:12:51,000 and I still did the self-portrait. 176 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:54,133 Then I knew, unless I'm in a coma, 177 00:12:55,300 --> 00:12:58,433 I would never have to worry about missing a day. 178 00:12:58,433 --> 00:13:03,200 [dramatic music] 179 00:13:22,533 --> 00:13:24,466 Oh, I think I was in the process here 180 00:13:24,466 --> 00:13:28,300 of starting to break up with this girl. 181 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:33,233 Yeah. 182 00:13:37,033 --> 00:13:39,033 Oh, I was crying. 183 00:13:39,033 --> 00:13:41,533 This is probably one of three pictures, total, 184 00:13:41,533 --> 00:13:45,500 out of 9,000 where I drew it while I was crying. 185 00:13:45,500 --> 00:13:48,933 There's another one I did where my aunt, 186 00:13:48,933 --> 00:13:52,966 my great-aunt passed away, and I was crying a little bit. 187 00:13:52,966 --> 00:13:56,966 I don't really cry too terribly much, or anything. 188 00:13:56,966 --> 00:14:01,966 [dramatic music] 189 00:14:06,233 --> 00:14:11,233 Whoa, that break up must have been really troubling. 190 00:14:12,466 --> 00:14:14,766 Yeah, here she goes. 191 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:18,733 "Doing better." 192 00:14:18,933 --> 00:14:21,100 She was a really short girl. 193 00:14:21,100 --> 00:14:26,100 [dramatic music] 194 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:48,533 I'm not so concerned with composition 195 00:14:48,533 --> 00:14:52,566 and figure ground and all these types of things. 196 00:14:52,566 --> 00:14:56,633 I don't think of drawing; when I do the self-portraits 197 00:14:56,633 --> 00:14:58,900 I don't think of them as-- 198 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:03,933 I think of them as all as one piece together. 199 00:15:03,933 --> 00:15:06,300 I don't think of each day as an 200 00:15:06,300 --> 00:15:09,566 individual work of art, really at all. 201 00:15:09,566 --> 00:15:11,533 Even though I might like one and share it 202 00:15:11,533 --> 00:15:14,566 with some people, show some people or something. 203 00:15:15,166 --> 00:15:19,000 If it's crappy I don't care because 204 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:22,100 it's the act that's more important to me 205 00:15:22,100 --> 00:15:24,633 than the final product. 206 00:15:26,466 --> 00:15:31,466 I had this real feeling that filled my whole entire being 207 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:35,533 that no one way of interpreting myself 208 00:15:35,533 --> 00:15:40,533 should set the standard for the way I see the world. 209 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:47,300 Because, you know, I was taking art history classes 210 00:15:47,300 --> 00:15:49,466 and things, and all of these artists 211 00:15:49,466 --> 00:15:52,333 like Van Gogh would see the world one way; 212 00:15:52,333 --> 00:15:54,966 Cezanne would see the world another way. 213 00:15:54,966 --> 00:15:57,133 And Paul McCartney, a performance artist, 214 00:15:57,133 --> 00:15:59,166 sees the world another way. 215 00:15:59,166 --> 00:16:03,566 Everybody from hundreds of years 216 00:16:03,566 --> 00:16:06,433 has being seeing the world in their own unique way. 217 00:16:06,433 --> 00:16:09,833 And I thought, the truth to me was that 218 00:16:09,833 --> 00:16:14,833 everyone is different, and then I thought, 219 00:16:15,533 --> 00:16:17,600 "They really encourage you in school 220 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:19,933 "to develop your own style, your own 221 00:16:19,933 --> 00:16:22,166 "unique way of seeing the world." 222 00:16:22,166 --> 00:16:23,933 And they give you these assignments 223 00:16:23,933 --> 00:16:26,033 where you try out all these different types 224 00:16:26,033 --> 00:16:28,566 of ways of doing different media. 225 00:16:28,566 --> 00:16:33,000 So that way you can get, like, a bigger palette 226 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:35,766 to interpret your expression. 227 00:16:35,766 --> 00:16:40,766 But I don't know, something in my physical body 228 00:16:41,566 --> 00:16:44,400 was just like, "Wow." 229 00:16:45,500 --> 00:16:49,766 Today is not the same as yesterday 230 00:16:49,766 --> 00:16:54,766 and if I'm happy one day, and then I'm sad 231 00:16:54,866 --> 00:16:59,866 the next day, why do I have to limit myself, 232 00:17:00,333 --> 00:17:04,866 limit my media palette to this one form of expression? 233 00:17:04,866 --> 00:17:09,400 But I knew that if I did this everyday it would come out. 234 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:13,800 I knew that subconsciously, or even consciously, 235 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:18,800 I would be able to have a means of expression 236 00:17:23,500 --> 00:17:25,633 that was really super-rich. 237 00:17:25,633 --> 00:17:30,633 [dramatic music] 238 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:20,200 [island music] 239 00:19:21,933 --> 00:19:25,500 Very rarely will I just be an abstract thing. 240 00:19:25,500 --> 00:19:29,333 Usually I try to at least represent myself somewhat. 241 00:19:29,333 --> 00:19:34,333 Here's me as an island; I made myself an island. 242 00:19:54,966 --> 00:19:57,366 We'll skip that one. [chuckles] 243 00:19:59,166 --> 00:20:00,966 Let's see. 244 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:04,066 I don't know, these are probably... 245 00:20:05,033 --> 00:20:07,233 I don't know why I'm crawling. 246 00:20:11,266 --> 00:20:13,366 Something happened. 247 00:20:14,066 --> 00:20:16,400 Oh, uh, I was mad about a sandwich. 248 00:20:17,633 --> 00:20:19,500 That's strange. 249 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:31,366 Going back to this one where I was an island, 250 00:20:31,366 --> 00:20:34,333 where I said I hardly ever draw myself, 251 00:20:34,333 --> 00:20:36,666 like abstract, where there's no representation, 252 00:20:36,666 --> 00:20:40,233 this writing it looks like some kind of nonsense, 253 00:20:40,233 --> 00:20:41,900 "Mudaks and vudaks and woodaduku, 254 00:20:41,900 --> 00:20:44,066 "mujudak mujadak daku maku." 255 00:20:44,066 --> 00:20:47,400 It sounds like the ramblings of something 256 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:51,133 of a weird person, but really what it is, 257 00:20:51,133 --> 00:20:54,400 is I had read a book by Nietzsche 258 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:56,766 that said, "I had a pain and call it "dog"." 259 00:20:56,766 --> 00:20:59,500 And one of the first steps toward 260 00:20:59,500 --> 00:21:02,400 controlling pain is to name it. 261 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:04,833 So what I did, was-- 262 00:21:04,833 --> 00:21:06,733 well because you'll probably see later on 263 00:21:06,733 --> 00:21:09,200 in some of the other books, 264 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:11,933 like some stomach aches and stuff like this. 265 00:21:11,933 --> 00:21:14,000 I was plagued all in my youth with 266 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:16,066 these terrible, terrible stomach aches. 267 00:21:16,066 --> 00:21:18,800 Well, after I read that I named it "Daku" 268 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:22,866 and so this like some weird type 269 00:21:22,866 --> 00:21:25,900 of trying to make a little nursery rhyme 270 00:21:25,900 --> 00:21:27,100 or something out of it. 271 00:21:27,100 --> 00:21:30,333 But years later once I started performing 272 00:21:30,700 --> 00:21:32,400 I ended up making an album about 273 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:36,766 the evolution of my interpretation of pain over the years. 274 00:21:36,766 --> 00:21:39,466 And then the album is called "Daku". 275 00:21:39,466 --> 00:21:42,566 Daku is the negative side and maku's the positive side 276 00:21:42,566 --> 00:21:44,966 that I just have in there. 277 00:21:45,266 --> 00:21:50,200 [dramatic music] 278 00:21:54,866 --> 00:21:56,166 A couple thousand of them are just 279 00:21:56,166 --> 00:21:59,000 a daily purging of anxiety and stress. 280 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:02,066 Like a mental health maintenance. 281 00:22:02,900 --> 00:22:06,166 Sometimes I will be happy with myself 282 00:22:06,166 --> 00:22:08,900 and do something kind of like that and, like, 283 00:22:08,900 --> 00:22:12,600 I say, "Oh, it's okay to love yourself," or something 284 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:17,600 [deep piano music] 285 00:22:29,100 --> 00:22:31,800 This one, I think I was a little bit blue, 286 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:33,533 and little bit depressed. 287 00:22:33,533 --> 00:22:35,000 I had noticed, over the years, that 288 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:38,366 when I do black and white drawing it's depression 289 00:22:38,366 --> 00:22:40,866 but I was thinking of all these colors, 290 00:22:40,866 --> 00:22:42,300 like the color of life or something. 291 00:22:42,300 --> 00:22:44,033 But it was just a thought, like I didn't 292 00:22:44,033 --> 00:22:45,700 have a color in my life. 293 00:22:45,700 --> 00:22:50,700 So I forced myself to put the color in my life. 294 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:56,433 It kind of looks stressful now. 295 00:23:03,133 --> 00:23:08,133 [train horn] 296 00:23:24,533 --> 00:23:26,900 Yellow and green to me have always been-- 297 00:23:26,900 --> 00:23:29,400 I see other people, other artists' artworks 298 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:31,966 and they use a lot of yellow and green. 299 00:23:31,966 --> 00:23:33,933 To me it's a sign of mental illness 300 00:23:33,933 --> 00:23:37,366 because yellow, they want some kind 301 00:23:37,366 --> 00:23:40,500 of spirituality and the green, they want 302 00:23:40,500 --> 00:23:42,033 some kind of calming thing. 303 00:23:42,033 --> 00:23:43,233 But when you put-- 304 00:23:43,233 --> 00:23:45,233 They're trying to express themselves 305 00:23:45,233 --> 00:23:46,666 and do something, but they're having 306 00:23:46,666 --> 00:23:48,500 some kind of problems and so 307 00:23:48,500 --> 00:23:50,333 a lot of times yellow's spiritual 308 00:23:50,333 --> 00:23:52,400 and then they went to calm, 309 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:54,600 but when you put the yellow and green together 310 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:57,533 it's really electrifying and it shows their mania 311 00:23:57,533 --> 00:24:01,333 and their not really aware of it. 312 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:07,033 I've got this-- 313 00:24:07,033 --> 00:24:09,166 probably my heart's cut out, or something. 314 00:24:09,166 --> 00:24:11,033 That girl cheated on me so I 315 00:24:11,033 --> 00:24:13,866 did a yellow and green one on purpose. 316 00:24:13,866 --> 00:24:15,266 I must have been thinking I was having 317 00:24:15,266 --> 00:24:19,200 some type of little bit of mental problem. 318 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:24,200 [intense music] 319 00:24:35,266 --> 00:24:39,366 I had a spontaneous pneumothorax; 320 00:24:40,533 --> 00:24:43,633 my right lung just popped. 321 00:24:43,633 --> 00:24:48,233 [intense music] 322 00:25:08,233 --> 00:25:10,066 That's my painting from the hospital 323 00:25:10,066 --> 00:25:13,266 and I did this one in the emergency room. 324 00:25:13,466 --> 00:25:16,966 Here's me in the hospital, 325 00:25:16,966 --> 00:25:19,800 and you can't really see it, but they 326 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:23,866 had a monitor or something, that's an IV bag, I guess. 327 00:25:23,866 --> 00:25:26,233 They had a chest tube and everything. 328 00:25:26,233 --> 00:25:29,066 It was pretty crazy, but it's happened before. 329 00:25:29,066 --> 00:25:30,933 Oh yeah, here's the chest tube right there 330 00:25:30,933 --> 00:25:33,066 and I made myself kind of surreal, 331 00:25:33,066 --> 00:25:34,500 like part of the equipment. 332 00:25:34,500 --> 00:25:35,833 I don't know what kind of medicine 333 00:25:35,833 --> 00:25:39,166 they had me on at that time. 334 00:25:40,233 --> 00:25:41,800 And there's me looking in the mirror. 335 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:45,800 I finally got up and was able to walk around a little bit 336 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:49,333 and then look in the mirror. 337 00:25:49,333 --> 00:25:53,100 And then there's the chest tube going in there. 338 00:25:53,100 --> 00:25:55,400 It was real painful. 339 00:25:55,800 --> 00:26:00,233 There's the scab, the scar, not the scab. 340 00:26:00,233 --> 00:26:03,500 I was drawing the open wound that I had. 341 00:26:03,500 --> 00:26:04,900 They don't seal it off whenever you 342 00:26:04,900 --> 00:26:09,166 have an open chest wound. 343 00:26:09,166 --> 00:26:11,500 It has to heal from the inside out, 344 00:26:11,500 --> 00:26:13,833 they can't just stitch it up. 345 00:26:14,433 --> 00:26:19,100 That's what it looked like in the mirror. 346 00:26:20,933 --> 00:26:25,933 Then I got some kind of chest infection. 347 00:26:33,466 --> 00:26:36,500 Here's me as some kind of crazy little voodoo 348 00:26:36,500 --> 00:26:39,733 trying to make that chest would, chest pain thing 349 00:26:39,733 --> 00:26:42,866 into some kind of, like, a talisman, 350 00:26:42,866 --> 00:26:47,866 or some kind of magical thing. 351 00:26:48,366 --> 00:26:51,800 This is after Picasso's "Women of Avignon" 352 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:56,800 and my open wound is an eye and a mouth and vagina, 353 00:26:58,066 --> 00:27:01,000 for the ego, the superego and the id. 354 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:04,100 I just put myself in the same poses as the women 355 00:27:04,100 --> 00:27:08,333 from that very famous painting. 356 00:27:13,166 --> 00:27:16,200 And then the scar almost healed up completely 357 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,333 and I'm sitting in this building, 358 00:27:18,333 --> 00:27:21,933 one floor down I lived in a different apartment. 359 00:27:21,933 --> 00:27:24,300 Some guy gave me some religious picture; 360 00:27:24,300 --> 00:27:26,500 I don't have it anymore. 361 00:27:27,866 --> 00:27:30,166 Oh, then I started riding my bike. 362 00:27:30,166 --> 00:27:31,566 I got a bike, that's the day I 363 00:27:31,566 --> 00:27:34,966 got my brand new bike helmet. 364 00:27:34,966 --> 00:27:39,966 And the doctors said, "What can't you do?" 365 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:43,666 on the follow-up for my pneumothorax. 366 00:27:43,666 --> 00:27:44,833 And I was like, "What do you mean, 367 00:27:44,833 --> 00:27:46,433 "what can't I do? I can do everything. 368 00:27:46,433 --> 00:27:48,233 "I've got a bike and everything." 369 00:27:48,233 --> 00:27:49,566 And they were like, "Really?" 370 00:27:49,566 --> 00:27:51,633 They were expecting me to not be able 371 00:27:51,633 --> 00:27:53,333 to go up and down stairs and stuff, 372 00:27:53,333 --> 00:27:55,100 but it's happened so many times 373 00:27:55,100 --> 00:27:56,866 I've had a pneumothorax, if I get 374 00:27:56,866 --> 00:28:01,500 too stressed out one of my lungs will just pop. 375 00:28:01,500 --> 00:28:03,066 I'm real used to it. 376 00:28:03,066 --> 00:28:05,400 I get a pain in my chest when he's not in his nest. 377 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,633 I can't walk when he's hungry. 378 00:28:07,633 --> 00:28:09,533 I can't sleep when he's lonely. 379 00:28:09,533 --> 00:28:11,533 I've often tried to talk to the Daku 380 00:28:11,533 --> 00:28:13,400 but he doesn't listen very well, either. 381 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:16,233 He's unruly and I think Daku is deaf. 382 00:28:16,233 --> 00:28:19,500 If I stabbed him I'd be certain of relief. 383 00:28:19,500 --> 00:28:22,066 Daku hates to be petted so I poke at him. 384 00:28:22,066 --> 00:28:23,933 He's outgrowing his tank. 385 00:28:23,933 --> 00:28:27,400 Daku can also eat in two different places at the same time. 386 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,800 He's right here just begging me to stab him, 387 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,133 gut him, gut myself, pull him out 388 00:28:33,133 --> 00:28:34,766 and stomp of the Daku. 389 00:28:34,766 --> 00:28:37,033 Daku is no friend, Daku is killing me! 390 00:28:37,100 --> 00:28:42,066 [dramatic music] 391 00:29:17,066 --> 00:29:21,800 One time when I was, 19, 392 00:29:22,966 --> 00:29:27,100 I had major depression and I stayed in a room, 393 00:29:27,100 --> 00:29:29,433 I was living with my girlfriend at the time 394 00:29:29,433 --> 00:29:31,333 and I stayed in a room for, like, 395 00:29:31,333 --> 00:29:33,200 six months in a straight, hardly ever left 396 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,866 the room but to use the bathroom. 397 00:29:35,866 --> 00:29:38,233 I've had times where I've had 398 00:29:40,166 --> 00:29:43,200 some types of delusions of grandeur. 399 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:48,200 [dramatic music] 400 00:30:22,033 --> 00:30:23,566 That's a weird one. 401 00:30:23,566 --> 00:30:28,466 Me, like a little kid, holding a teddy bear. 402 00:30:29,300 --> 00:30:34,300 My childhood, I would say, is probably colorful. 403 00:30:37,300 --> 00:30:41,266 I had a single mother for a long time, 404 00:30:41,266 --> 00:30:42,733 I stayed with my grandparents 405 00:30:42,733 --> 00:30:46,333 quite a bit during summers. 406 00:30:47,366 --> 00:30:52,133 I think drew circles prematurely, like age one. 407 00:30:52,133 --> 00:30:54,666 Then it wasn't but a week or two later 408 00:30:54,666 --> 00:30:56,566 I started putting eyes in them. 409 00:30:56,566 --> 00:31:01,566 [dramatic music] 410 00:31:11,366 --> 00:31:14,566 When I was 1 1/2 I was potty trained 411 00:31:14,566 --> 00:31:17,133 and I went straight to school after that. 412 00:31:17,133 --> 00:31:21,366 And was reading when I was two years old 413 00:31:21,366 --> 00:31:24,233 and was in the gifted and talented programs 414 00:31:24,233 --> 00:31:26,800 all through school. 415 00:31:26,900 --> 00:31:29,100 I wasn't really a prodigy or anything 416 00:31:29,100 --> 00:31:31,766 because I never got to nurture it 417 00:31:32,900 --> 00:31:34,366 but then as I got a little bit older 418 00:31:34,366 --> 00:31:37,133 I started not being interested 419 00:31:37,133 --> 00:31:41,166 in school anymore, it was kind of boring. 420 00:31:41,166 --> 00:31:43,100 I felt like they were holding me back. 421 00:31:43,100 --> 00:31:47,500 I was also a latch key kid, so was I home alone a whole lot. 422 00:31:47,666 --> 00:31:52,666 I had wear this awful red yarn with a key on it 423 00:31:53,533 --> 00:31:54,966 and it would rub me all day 424 00:31:54,966 --> 00:31:56,866 because if I lost my key or something 425 00:31:56,866 --> 00:31:59,733 I would have no way to get into the house. 426 00:31:59,733 --> 00:32:02,100 But my mother showed me how to break-in 427 00:32:02,100 --> 00:32:06,300 to the house with a knife through the kitchen window. 428 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:13,433 When I was 10, I started getting in trouble with the law. 429 00:32:13,433 --> 00:32:18,133 If my mother wasn't coming home after work, I-- 430 00:32:18,700 --> 00:32:21,800 All the other kids had to go in at dinner-time, 431 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:23,400 I could stay outside forever. 432 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:27,300 But it was dark; I was more scared of the house, 433 00:32:27,300 --> 00:32:30,800 than I was the dark so I started-- 434 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,500 By the time I was 11 or 12, I started 435 00:32:33,566 --> 00:32:37,433 breaking into people's houses after they died 436 00:32:37,433 --> 00:32:39,966 and would go through their stuff 437 00:32:39,966 --> 00:32:44,266 and hang out in these other people's houses. 438 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:49,200 [chuckles] It's a strange thing. 439 00:32:50,300 --> 00:32:52,166 It just my mind would wander, like, 440 00:32:52,166 --> 00:32:55,633 one lady died across the street. 441 00:32:55,633 --> 00:32:58,000 She was elderly and I broke into her house 442 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,233 and I stayed in there for a couple weeks. 443 00:33:02,033 --> 00:33:04,900 I wasn't every missing; I went to school, 444 00:33:04,900 --> 00:33:06,566 come home before my mom got home 445 00:33:06,566 --> 00:33:08,466 and stuff like that, but if I found 446 00:33:08,466 --> 00:33:12,566 some swords, or something from her travels, 447 00:33:12,633 --> 00:33:16,333 I would play with them and give them to the other kids. 448 00:33:17,033 --> 00:33:19,500 I'd steal her TV and stuff. [chuckles] 449 00:33:19,500 --> 00:33:23,066 Just to hang out in the people's houses after they died. 450 00:33:23,066 --> 00:33:28,066 [dramatic music] 451 00:33:32,466 --> 00:33:34,666 I would, rather than play outside 452 00:33:34,666 --> 00:33:36,266 or in some dead person's house 453 00:33:36,266 --> 00:33:38,466 than in my own house because for some reason, 454 00:33:38,466 --> 00:33:41,433 I had this irrational fear, paranoia 455 00:33:41,433 --> 00:33:44,133 of the bad people. 456 00:33:44,133 --> 00:33:47,466 I had really no concept of what they were. 457 00:33:47,466 --> 00:33:49,833 I just had this vague idea that 458 00:33:49,833 --> 00:33:53,233 the bad people were killers. 459 00:33:53,233 --> 00:33:56,733 Anyone whoever got killed was killed 460 00:33:56,733 --> 00:34:00,433 by these mysterious bad people. 461 00:34:02,033 --> 00:34:04,366 One lady down the street, Olga, 462 00:34:04,366 --> 00:34:06,066 she got murdered and they played 463 00:34:06,066 --> 00:34:11,066 the 9-1-1 tape on TV and her husband 464 00:34:11,266 --> 00:34:13,133 had escaped, or something. 465 00:34:13,133 --> 00:34:14,533 He got furloughed or something 466 00:34:14,533 --> 00:34:17,366 from a mental hospital and stabbed her all up 467 00:34:17,366 --> 00:34:19,766 and every time he stabbed her, 468 00:34:19,766 --> 00:34:22,666 he was screaming her name, Olga. 469 00:34:22,666 --> 00:34:27,300 He was going, "Ol-ga, Ol-ga, Ol-ga, Ol-ga," 470 00:34:27,300 --> 00:34:31,166 like that and then she was screaming to death, 471 00:34:31,166 --> 00:34:33,300 she screamed until she died. 472 00:34:33,300 --> 00:34:35,433 And that really haunted me; that type 473 00:34:35,433 --> 00:34:37,300 of thing really scared me. 474 00:34:37,300 --> 00:34:41,066 So I was just always afraid of these bad people. 475 00:34:41,066 --> 00:34:43,500 I just always thought they were somewhere around. 476 00:34:43,500 --> 00:34:48,500 I had this whole ritual before I went to sleep at night. 477 00:34:48,566 --> 00:34:51,600 I would pretend like I was dead already 478 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:56,600 so that if the bad people found me and tried to kill me 479 00:34:56,866 --> 00:34:59,066 they would see I was already dead. 480 00:34:59,066 --> 00:35:01,633 And I would have this elaborate set-up 481 00:35:01,633 --> 00:35:03,700 like a funeral or something, and I would sleep 482 00:35:03,700 --> 00:35:06,033 next to the open window in the summertime. 483 00:35:06,033 --> 00:35:11,033 [eerie music] 484 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,633 I was picked on a lot by the older kids 485 00:35:13,633 --> 00:35:15,166 because they could stay out longer, 486 00:35:15,166 --> 00:35:17,500 so if some of these older high school kids, 487 00:35:17,500 --> 00:35:19,900 they would try to beat me up. 488 00:35:19,900 --> 00:35:23,100 Then I would take it out on-- 489 00:35:23,100 --> 00:35:27,633 I would just pass the beating down the line. 490 00:35:27,633 --> 00:35:29,900 I would only have one friend at at time; 491 00:35:29,900 --> 00:35:32,400 they would be my best friend, inseparable, 492 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:34,433 and then I would eventually beat them up 493 00:35:34,433 --> 00:35:37,233 and then look for a new friend 494 00:35:37,233 --> 00:35:40,633 and be their friend for awhile and beat them up. 495 00:35:40,633 --> 00:35:44,533 Then after a while nobody was allowed to play with me 496 00:35:44,533 --> 00:35:49,533 probably by the time I was about 13, I'd say. 497 00:35:54,733 --> 00:35:57,533 I used art a lot of times, at least in 498 00:35:57,533 --> 00:35:59,300 the beginning, a whole lot. 499 00:35:59,300 --> 00:36:02,100 Maybe not the self-portraits, but with the performances, 500 00:36:02,100 --> 00:36:05,300 to purge myself of the trauma. 501 00:36:05,300 --> 00:36:10,300 Traumatic events, I would relay them, 502 00:36:11,833 --> 00:36:15,800 like an exorcism or something, just 503 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:19,900 let it all out, all of these terrible things. 504 00:36:19,900 --> 00:36:22,500 But my mother, she has no idea, 505 00:36:22,500 --> 00:36:25,166 all these crazy things that went on. 506 00:36:25,166 --> 00:36:27,266 She might remember a few incidents, 507 00:36:27,266 --> 00:36:29,266 or something with me with the police, 508 00:36:29,266 --> 00:36:33,233 but she had no idea the types of things 509 00:36:33,233 --> 00:36:38,233 I was a witness to, or subjected to. 510 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:41,933 I don't know because when you're a boy 511 00:36:41,933 --> 00:36:44,766 you're supposed to suck it up. 512 00:36:44,766 --> 00:36:47,533 You don't really tell your mother 513 00:36:47,533 --> 00:36:50,300 that Officer [beep], the one you think 514 00:36:50,300 --> 00:36:52,233 is supposed to be helping people 515 00:36:52,233 --> 00:36:55,333 is molesting all the troubled kids. 516 00:36:55,333 --> 00:36:57,333 You don't uh-- 517 00:36:57,333 --> 00:36:58,833 You know, you got a single mom 518 00:36:58,833 --> 00:37:02,000 and you're a boy, you just got to suck it up, really. 519 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:07,000 [dramatic music] 520 00:37:48,300 --> 00:37:49,766 I think this is around the time 521 00:37:49,766 --> 00:37:51,300 that I was graduating. 522 00:37:51,300 --> 00:37:55,033 I graduate from ETSU in the summer of '98, 523 00:37:55,033 --> 00:37:56,433 so there'll probably be some 524 00:37:56,433 --> 00:38:00,500 of the pictures in there about that. 525 00:38:06,900 --> 00:38:09,233 The dorm was like a prison 526 00:38:09,233 --> 00:38:11,500 with the cinder block walls. 527 00:38:13,333 --> 00:38:15,833 I just had these scribbles on this old palette 528 00:38:15,833 --> 00:38:20,833 and it's like some tensions are flying off, 529 00:38:21,466 --> 00:38:24,933 it's a self-constructed wall it looks like 530 00:38:24,933 --> 00:38:28,000 I'm trying to build in my brain. 531 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,533 I really felt comfortable in the college 532 00:38:30,533 --> 00:38:34,400 and the dormitory; I stayed in the dormitory five years, 533 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:37,233 every semester, even summer school 534 00:38:37,233 --> 00:38:40,000 because it was just convenient, 535 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,100 and stuff, and I didn't mind it. 536 00:38:42,100 --> 00:38:44,066 I been in prison one time, a long time ago, 537 00:38:44,066 --> 00:38:48,266 and I got used to it. 538 00:38:48,933 --> 00:38:52,466 There's some anxiety; that's nuts. 539 00:38:54,833 --> 00:38:58,033 I was under a whole lot of stress going to college. 540 00:38:58,033 --> 00:39:01,400 It was really hard for me to do assignments. 541 00:39:01,633 --> 00:39:03,900 The called the ACLU on me one time 542 00:39:03,900 --> 00:39:05,400 because I sewed my mouth shut for 543 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:08,166 this photography student. 544 00:39:09,433 --> 00:39:10,933 They had the lawyers come, and they 545 00:39:10,933 --> 00:39:13,433 had this big meeting, and everything. 546 00:39:13,433 --> 00:39:16,066 They had more than one meeting on me. 547 00:39:16,066 --> 00:39:17,900 But was this one was the big one. 548 00:39:17,900 --> 00:39:20,766 And then I had to jump through 549 00:39:20,766 --> 00:39:23,733 a lot of hoops in order to graduate. 550 00:39:23,733 --> 00:39:27,300 Even if my faculty, my teachers, advisors 551 00:39:27,300 --> 00:39:32,300 and stuff would say, "Oh, we recommend," at the evaluation, 552 00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:37,400 " you skip two or three years worth of stuff 553 00:39:37,466 --> 00:39:39,966 "and just take 5,000 level advanced 554 00:39:39,966 --> 00:39:43,866 "classes, electives and stuff like that." 555 00:39:43,866 --> 00:39:47,200 The head chairman said, "No, if he wants 556 00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:50,366 "to graduate he has to jump through every hoop, 557 00:39:50,366 --> 00:39:53,266 "he has to do everything just like everybody else 558 00:39:53,266 --> 00:39:56,266 "and he does not get special treatment." 559 00:39:57,100 --> 00:40:00,266 That guy really held me back, big time. 560 00:40:00,266 --> 00:40:03,700 And I didn't like to do assignments. 561 00:40:03,700 --> 00:40:06,633 They would have me make a painting; 562 00:40:07,533 --> 00:40:10,333 like in the syllabus it would say, I think one of the said, 563 00:40:10,333 --> 00:40:12,800 "Make a drawing that weighed five pounds," 564 00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:14,400 and I told the teacher-- 565 00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:16,000 I mean, that stuff really stressed me out, 566 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:17,666 kept me up at night, all night, and I would think, 567 00:40:17,666 --> 00:40:20,233 "How am I going to approach this 568 00:40:20,233 --> 00:40:23,200 "and not fly off the handle and get upset?" 569 00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:26,766 But I would say, "If I make any drawing 570 00:40:26,766 --> 00:40:30,366 "that weighs five pounds, it's automatically garbage." 571 00:40:30,366 --> 00:40:32,966 It doesn't have anything to do with me. 572 00:40:32,966 --> 00:40:35,100 I have my life purpose, I'm going to draw myself 573 00:40:35,100 --> 00:40:36,866 everyday for the rest of my life. 574 00:40:36,866 --> 00:40:39,566 If I make a drawing that weighs five pounds, 575 00:40:39,566 --> 00:40:43,366 I don't want it; that's silliness. 576 00:40:43,366 --> 00:40:45,833 And they would say, "You have to do this, 577 00:40:45,833 --> 00:40:47,333 "you have to do that." 578 00:40:47,333 --> 00:40:50,733 I would never do it; I would never do it. 579 00:40:50,733 --> 00:40:55,666 [dramatic music] 580 00:41:10,033 --> 00:41:13,433 That's the last day of classes. 581 00:41:14,100 --> 00:41:18,366 Last class, last exam, last hoop, last jump. 582 00:41:19,900 --> 00:41:23,533 I look kind of blue, kind of down, 583 00:41:23,533 --> 00:41:27,833 but I probably was really relieved to get out of there. 584 00:41:29,033 --> 00:41:33,400 This is funny; here's me in a diaper with a ski mask on. 585 00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:35,133 I don't know why, but at the time, 586 00:41:35,133 --> 00:41:37,366 still to me it speaks to me something about 587 00:41:37,366 --> 00:41:40,633 being a baby and in a violent ski mask. 588 00:41:40,633 --> 00:41:43,800 And I made this nail-studded paddle 589 00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:46,800 for an Intro to Sculpture class 590 00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:49,666 and on one side of the paddle, 591 00:41:49,666 --> 00:41:51,900 I don't know if you can really tell, 592 00:41:51,900 --> 00:41:55,833 I painted welts, and flesh-colored welts 593 00:41:55,833 --> 00:41:57,300 so it looked, like, you saw that nails 594 00:41:57,300 --> 00:41:58,766 and it was like a before and after. 595 00:41:58,766 --> 00:42:01,666 But the teacher did not want me to come back into class 596 00:42:01,666 --> 00:42:03,666 because she thought I was going to spank myself with it. 597 00:42:03,666 --> 00:42:05,200 But my girlfriend at the time took 598 00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:06,900 all of these Polaroids of me 599 00:42:06,900 --> 00:42:09,466 with the ski mask and the diaper 600 00:42:09,466 --> 00:42:11,666 and I would just scribble red pen on it 601 00:42:11,666 --> 00:42:13,100 and make it look like some kind 602 00:42:13,100 --> 00:42:15,133 of spank yourself or something. 603 00:42:15,133 --> 00:42:17,000 And I would leave these-- 604 00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:18,933 I still have quite a few of them left, 605 00:42:18,933 --> 00:42:22,366 like probably 20 or so, and I would leave them 606 00:42:22,366 --> 00:42:26,100 in people's places, like in their car, 607 00:42:26,100 --> 00:42:28,600 or different stuff and it was 608 00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,333 kind of like a funny thing to do. 609 00:42:31,333 --> 00:42:33,133 People would find it and then they'd feel like-- 610 00:42:33,133 --> 00:42:36,233 [laughs] They'd freak out. [laughs] 611 00:42:36,300 --> 00:42:38,400 One time I left one under-- 612 00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:40,100 I was house-sitting and they had 613 00:42:40,100 --> 00:42:42,466 a big tub of sour cream in the refrigerator 614 00:42:42,466 --> 00:42:44,433 and I left a Polaroid of me in the ski mask 615 00:42:44,433 --> 00:42:46,266 and the diaper under it. 616 00:42:46,266 --> 00:42:47,633 Well, apparently that sour cream 617 00:42:47,633 --> 00:42:49,633 had gone totally sour and they never moved it 618 00:42:49,633 --> 00:42:51,200 until they moved out of the apartment. 619 00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:53,733 So a year later of something, when they moved out, 620 00:42:53,733 --> 00:42:55,766 they were cleaning out the refrigerator 621 00:42:55,766 --> 00:42:57,600 and they found it and they thought, 622 00:42:57,600 --> 00:42:59,466 "Oh my gosh! We've been violated. 623 00:42:59,466 --> 00:43:01,833 "Some psychopath freak has come in here 624 00:43:01,833 --> 00:43:04,633 "and took pictures of the ski mask and a diaper." 625 00:43:04,633 --> 00:43:08,000 But then they saw the tattoos and they realized it was me. 626 00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:12,033 [laughs] And I just think that's funny, sometimes. 627 00:43:12,033 --> 00:43:14,433 I still do it, but, you never know what happens 628 00:43:14,433 --> 00:43:17,500 if the people meant to find them will find them. 629 00:43:19,866 --> 00:43:24,333 That's just a regular; probably some anxiety. 630 00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,900 Then, my best friend, Don Morgan, 631 00:43:29,900 --> 00:43:31,866 shot himself in the head. 632 00:43:31,866 --> 00:43:34,933 Don, he had some mental problems. 633 00:43:34,933 --> 00:43:39,766 He had gone to some kind of inpatient treatment 634 00:43:39,766 --> 00:43:41,966 for a couple of days and his girlfriend 635 00:43:41,966 --> 00:43:45,733 had me go over and try to clean up the bloodstain 636 00:43:45,733 --> 00:43:48,466 before his parents came from Chattanooga. 637 00:43:48,466 --> 00:43:50,700 And the more I was scrubbing it, 638 00:43:50,700 --> 00:43:52,800 the bigger the puddle kept getting 639 00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:55,266 until, finally, I just left it. 640 00:43:55,266 --> 00:43:57,400 I don't know how you clean up that stuff. 641 00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:59,900 He was in the ICU and I was wanting 642 00:43:59,900 --> 00:44:02,266 to trade places with him and stuff. 643 00:44:02,266 --> 00:44:04,766 And then I had to call his family 644 00:44:04,766 --> 00:44:08,300 and I was like a robot, or something. 645 00:44:09,033 --> 00:44:13,766 Then I had to get to the free mental health 646 00:44:13,766 --> 00:44:15,633 and tell them, "Oh my gosh, my best friend 647 00:44:15,633 --> 00:44:18,933 "shot himself in the head." 648 00:44:19,533 --> 00:44:22,333 Oh, here's me crying again; it looks more 649 00:44:22,333 --> 00:44:24,200 like I was trying to force myself to cry. 650 00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:26,566 I don't think I was really crying too much. 651 00:44:26,566 --> 00:44:29,566 Actually, that looks like a real teardrop. 652 00:44:29,566 --> 00:44:32,400 This is probably a water color, 653 00:44:32,833 --> 00:44:35,000 chalk, that is some tears on there, so I guess, 654 00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:37,200 yeah I was probably really crying. 655 00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:40,033 But it's not too many times I do that. 656 00:44:40,033 --> 00:44:45,033 [dramatic music] 657 00:45:16,933 --> 00:45:21,933 [knocking] 658 00:45:25,866 --> 00:45:30,866 Hey, come in; kitchen. 659 00:45:32,700 --> 00:45:34,500 To the left is the closet. 660 00:45:34,500 --> 00:45:36,333 People tell me that I'm like 661 00:45:36,333 --> 00:45:39,900 some frightening and some scary. 662 00:45:39,900 --> 00:45:43,200 Well, now, because of the drug things online 663 00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:45,900 people say I'm an attention whore 664 00:45:45,900 --> 00:45:50,900 or I'm a liar, like I make these things up 665 00:45:51,033 --> 00:45:54,866 to get attention, or you know, 666 00:45:54,866 --> 00:45:57,033 because I want publicity. 667 00:45:57,033 --> 00:46:00,600 Here's the bathroom if you need to use it. 668 00:46:00,666 --> 00:46:03,000 - And this is the cool shot, right there. 669 00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:08,000 I do a lot of painting in the bathtub to relax. 670 00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:09,900 So those water color crayons in the corner are for drawing. 671 00:46:09,900 --> 00:46:12,900 - [Voiceover] Nice, cool, okay. 672 00:46:13,266 --> 00:46:18,166 They say I'm doing some gimmicks to make money 673 00:46:18,166 --> 00:46:22,433 but I'm like, "Oh my gosh, they're in some fantasy land." 674 00:46:22,433 --> 00:46:24,833 Because if I had some money, I would not 675 00:46:24,833 --> 00:46:27,666 be living in this type of place. 676 00:46:27,666 --> 00:46:31,533 I would not be living in squalor. 677 00:46:32,633 --> 00:46:35,300 That's how a lot of people see me. 678 00:46:35,300 --> 00:46:38,800 Okay, then here, are my releases, 679 00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:40,666 basically my merchandise, 680 00:46:40,666 --> 00:46:44,300 like old stock, that's my inventory stock. 681 00:46:44,300 --> 00:46:47,100 And these are the ones that haven't released yet, 682 00:46:47,100 --> 00:46:50,900 that are still being developed, but they're still products. 683 00:46:50,900 --> 00:46:55,900 I was having a really strange experience 684 00:46:56,033 --> 00:46:58,100 where I was waking up with seizures 685 00:46:58,100 --> 00:47:01,400 and I was having a fit and the world 686 00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:03,900 would be too bright, my fists would 687 00:47:03,900 --> 00:47:06,666 be all clenched up and I'd be shaking, like this. 688 00:47:06,666 --> 00:47:08,733 And I would have this feeling that I 689 00:47:08,733 --> 00:47:11,933 was being born, physically, for the first time ever. 690 00:47:11,933 --> 00:47:16,933 And then these are documents of projects past. 691 00:47:18,266 --> 00:47:23,266 No, not these two, but these boxes, and these things here. 692 00:47:23,333 --> 00:47:25,333 And after the first couple mornings waking up 693 00:47:25,333 --> 00:47:27,833 like this, with the seizure fit and everything, 694 00:47:27,833 --> 00:47:31,300 and being born for the first time, it was really scary. 695 00:47:31,300 --> 00:47:34,733 And then the third day, the third morning, 696 00:47:34,733 --> 00:47:37,100 I wake up, I'm twisted around with 697 00:47:37,100 --> 00:47:39,366 the blanket all wrapped up around me 698 00:47:39,366 --> 00:47:42,000 and I'm thinking, "I'm a breach birth," 699 00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:43,466 like the umbilical cord or something's 700 00:47:43,466 --> 00:47:45,400 wrapped up around my neck, and I'm choking 701 00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:47,700 and I'm dying, I'm being born, and the world's too bright 702 00:47:47,700 --> 00:47:49,933 and I'm shaking, and then I said to Nicole, 703 00:47:49,933 --> 00:47:52,833 "Oh my gosh, what if I'm a C-Section?" 704 00:47:52,833 --> 00:47:57,833 This is art supplies and media. 705 00:47:58,133 --> 00:48:00,066 And then these are the photographs 706 00:48:00,066 --> 00:48:02,666 that I find in the trash constantly. 707 00:48:02,666 --> 00:48:04,933 Then, the next morning after that, 708 00:48:04,933 --> 00:48:07,166 after having a wonderful, peaceful sleep, 709 00:48:07,166 --> 00:48:08,766 I wake up, I'm having a seizure, 710 00:48:08,766 --> 00:48:09,866 I'm thinking I'm being born again 711 00:48:09,866 --> 00:48:12,400 for the first time, physically. 712 00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:14,933 I called it a near-birth experience. 713 00:48:14,933 --> 00:48:17,600 And there's walkie talkies just going off over my head, 714 00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:19,433 like, "Kssh, calling 124, kssh," 715 00:48:19,433 --> 00:48:20,766 and all this stuff-- 716 00:48:20,766 --> 00:48:22,466 And then this little closet is a clothes closet. 717 00:48:22,466 --> 00:48:25,033 And I can barely walk, I'm practically crawling 718 00:48:25,033 --> 00:48:27,000 and using the walls with my shoulder 719 00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:30,533 to get to the front door and I look through the peephole 720 00:48:30,533 --> 00:48:33,400 and there's cops here, and cops here, 721 00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:35,833 and my neighbor across the hall door's wide open 722 00:48:35,833 --> 00:48:37,600 and there's a dead lady laying 723 00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:39,500 in the middle of the kitchen floor. 724 00:48:39,500 --> 00:48:43,600 And so I went from a near-birth experience 725 00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:46,833 to a instant tunnel-vision of death. 726 00:48:46,833 --> 00:48:51,166 These are DVDs, art films, art DVDs 727 00:48:51,166 --> 00:48:53,200 that I used to really love but I 728 00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:55,133 don't have time to watch anymore. 729 00:48:55,133 --> 00:48:57,166 That's the only time I've every really contemplated 730 00:48:57,166 --> 00:48:59,400 moving out of here, I thought, "It's getting too close." 731 00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:01,833 Then I opened up the door and looked 732 00:49:01,833 --> 00:49:03,966 and they picked her up in a sheet 733 00:49:03,966 --> 00:49:06,233 like she was on the streets of Syria 734 00:49:06,233 --> 00:49:08,500 and they just slung her onto to the gurney 735 00:49:08,500 --> 00:49:10,600 right in front of my door. 736 00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:12,933 Then the next morning I woke up 737 00:49:12,933 --> 00:49:15,066 and I didn't have the seizure, 738 00:49:15,066 --> 00:49:17,233 pushed the button for the elevator door, 739 00:49:17,233 --> 00:49:19,700 door opens up and there's a dead body on there 740 00:49:19,700 --> 00:49:20,866 with the cops, and the cop's like, 741 00:49:20,866 --> 00:49:22,966 "You can't come on, on this one." 742 00:49:22,966 --> 00:49:25,066 And I was like, "Oh my god, it's closing in." 743 00:49:25,066 --> 00:49:26,666 And these people next door to me 744 00:49:26,666 --> 00:49:30,400 used to party all the time and they hadn't been partying 745 00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:32,633 and I was like, "Oh my god, if this guy's dead 746 00:49:32,633 --> 00:49:37,433 "I'm outta here," because it's just coming too close to me. 747 00:49:37,433 --> 00:49:40,900 The last closet is the potluck closet. 748 00:49:40,900 --> 00:49:45,900 And it's got tools, bicycle pump, all my books. 749 00:49:47,833 --> 00:49:49,666 I don't have a whole lot of books. 750 00:49:49,666 --> 00:49:51,300 Even though I don't socialize and interact 751 00:49:51,300 --> 00:49:54,100 with these people, it was just getting to be too much death, 752 00:49:54,100 --> 00:49:57,533 and with this near-birth experience, seizure craziness, 753 00:49:57,533 --> 00:49:59,866 that's the only time I've ever thought about leaving. 754 00:49:59,866 --> 00:50:01,133 I love this place so much, 755 00:50:01,133 --> 00:50:03,100 no matter what happens, I love it. 756 00:50:03,100 --> 00:50:08,100 [dramatic music] 757 00:50:20,866 --> 00:50:22,933 When I first moved into this building 758 00:50:22,933 --> 00:50:26,666 in 2000, or something, my original goal 759 00:50:26,666 --> 00:50:29,500 was to make a documentary about all 760 00:50:29,500 --> 00:50:31,833 of the interesting people that live 761 00:50:31,833 --> 00:50:36,100 in this building, from veterans, to elderly people, 762 00:50:36,100 --> 00:50:38,200 just all different types of people. 763 00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:39,833 And this building is really well known 764 00:50:39,833 --> 00:50:43,000 for having a whole lot of interesting characters. 765 00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:45,000 So I was going to do a documentary 766 00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,000 but then I never felt comfortable. 767 00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,700 Most people don't even leave their apartment 768 00:50:49,700 --> 00:50:52,900 and they're all on drugs, some of them 769 00:50:52,900 --> 00:50:56,033 are so messed up, on psyche meds, 770 00:50:56,033 --> 00:50:59,366 that the case manager once told me 771 00:50:59,366 --> 00:51:03,433 that if she could get them out of their chair, 772 00:51:03,433 --> 00:51:07,200 recliner, lounge chair, three times a day, 773 00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:08,966 that was a good day for them. 774 00:51:08,966 --> 00:51:13,966 And it was really boring, I never did a documentary. 775 00:51:15,033 --> 00:51:18,700 I started a new sketchbook and this is what I wrote: 776 00:51:18,700 --> 00:51:23,233 Theme: pill, medicine and drug experiment 777 00:51:23,233 --> 00:51:25,933 Every single person in my apartment building 778 00:51:25,933 --> 00:51:30,933 takes pills and or drugs; I live in a big building. 779 00:51:31,233 --> 00:51:34,100 They say someone can get every kind 780 00:51:34,100 --> 00:51:37,133 of pill there is in my apartment. 781 00:51:37,133 --> 00:51:40,900 The experiment is to take every single kind 782 00:51:40,900 --> 00:51:43,100 and draw myself under the influence 783 00:51:43,100 --> 00:51:47,200 of every drug and every pill and note the changes. 784 00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:50,600 That was my big delusion of grandeur, 785 00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:52,433 I could take all these pills. 786 00:51:52,433 --> 00:51:54,200 And the first day I got a hold 787 00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:56,500 of something called Butalbitals, 788 00:51:56,500 --> 00:51:59,466 they were pain pills; I took four of them. 789 00:52:01,833 --> 00:52:04,700 Then the next day I took Valium. 790 00:52:11,133 --> 00:52:12,800 Then I took a break from the pills 791 00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:14,833 and I drank all these liquor drinks. 792 00:52:14,833 --> 00:52:16,700 I was sitting at the bar drawing myself 793 00:52:16,700 --> 00:52:17,866 it was looking pretty good but 794 00:52:17,866 --> 00:52:20,200 then it got to where I had get someone 795 00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:22,366 to make a map of how I get back home. 796 00:52:22,366 --> 00:52:24,466 I was just scribbling and stuff, 797 00:52:24,466 --> 00:52:27,433 I was all messed up on liquor. 798 00:52:27,966 --> 00:52:30,633 This one I took some Percocets. 799 00:52:35,700 --> 00:52:39,666 This is Lortabs, it made my nose really itchy. 800 00:52:43,533 --> 00:52:47,200 Didn't do too much else to me, just made my nose itch. 801 00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:51,733 And this one is huffing Nitrous Oxide, laughing gas. 802 00:52:56,766 --> 00:52:59,866 And then this one is Xanax; 803 00:52:59,866 --> 00:53:02,233 this one was my favorite of all. 804 00:53:02,233 --> 00:53:06,300 It made me feel most earthy and peaceful. 805 00:53:09,533 --> 00:53:12,533 Then this one, someone came-- 806 00:53:12,533 --> 00:53:15,600 All these pills were things people just gave to me 807 00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:18,166 because they heard about my project. 808 00:53:18,166 --> 00:53:19,966 Every time someone would give me something 809 00:53:19,966 --> 00:53:21,500 they would tell someone about it, 810 00:53:21,500 --> 00:53:23,466 so people were just knocking on my door 811 00:53:23,466 --> 00:53:25,200 left and right and saying, "When I was a kid 812 00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:27,333 "we used to do this; or here's this." 813 00:53:27,333 --> 00:53:29,766 This girl cleaned out here medicine cabinet 814 00:53:29,766 --> 00:53:34,766 and she gave me one blue, one milligram Xanax, 815 00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:38,400 one and a half rocks of [mumbles], 816 00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:40,400 one Vicodin and then a totem pole. 817 00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:42,166 And I just took them all. 818 00:53:42,166 --> 00:53:44,766 Originally I was going to do one a day 819 00:53:44,766 --> 00:53:48,333 but then by the time I think I got to about-- 820 00:53:50,700 --> 00:53:54,100 This one says I took a day off 821 00:53:54,100 --> 00:53:56,566 and did nothing but Percocet. 822 00:53:56,566 --> 00:53:59,600 So I think I was already doing more than one a day 823 00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:02,133 but I'd wait until it wore off and I felt normal, 824 00:54:02,133 --> 00:54:03,533 and then I would do another one. 825 00:54:03,533 --> 00:54:05,366 But by this day I was taking more 826 00:54:05,366 --> 00:54:07,900 than one thing at a time. 827 00:54:07,900 --> 00:54:10,133 It was getting to be quite a bit. 828 00:54:10,133 --> 00:54:14,566 Then I did mushrooms, the psychedelic mushrooms. 829 00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:18,633 Right as it started kicking in, 830 00:54:18,633 --> 00:54:20,833 my eyes started getting bigger, 831 00:54:20,833 --> 00:54:23,266 and colors, and then my whole-- 832 00:54:23,266 --> 00:54:26,333 It's weird, all these pixels started radiating 833 00:54:26,333 --> 00:54:28,100 and flying out of my face. 834 00:54:28,100 --> 00:54:29,833 By the time it got to here I couldn't 835 00:54:29,833 --> 00:54:33,233 even draw anymore,so it ended. 836 00:54:33,233 --> 00:54:36,933 I mean, the drawing ended at a good point, 837 00:54:36,933 --> 00:54:40,200 I got a lot of details and stuff. 838 00:54:41,833 --> 00:54:44,266 This one, after that, the next day 839 00:54:44,266 --> 00:54:46,233 I went to a psychiatrist and I said, 840 00:54:46,233 --> 00:54:49,900 "Here's my pictures on all these different drugs, 841 00:54:49,900 --> 00:54:51,600 "I'm doing this experiment." 842 00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:53,266 Nobody had given me anything else 843 00:54:53,266 --> 00:54:54,833 after the mushrooms and I said, 844 00:54:54,833 --> 00:54:57,700 "I just want a prescription for one pill 845 00:54:57,700 --> 00:54:59,933 "of every type of thing I haven't done yet." 846 00:54:59,933 --> 00:55:02,166 And what he did instead was he thought 847 00:55:02,166 --> 00:55:05,600 I was psychotic for taking all these different pills. 848 00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:09,000 So he gave me a prescription for 100 Seroquel pills, 849 00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:11,033 which are heavy tranquilizers and it 850 00:55:11,033 --> 00:55:13,500 was the worst experience of my life. 851 00:55:13,500 --> 00:55:17,166 The worst drug I have ever ingested 852 00:55:17,166 --> 00:55:21,400 was a Seroquel tranquilizer pill. 853 00:55:27,133 --> 00:55:29,266 You can see I was having to fight it 854 00:55:29,266 --> 00:55:32,366 the whole time, to be just to draw. 855 00:55:32,366 --> 00:55:35,000 I started off doing the proportions, 856 00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:37,600 getting the ears and the cheeks and the eyes 857 00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:39,833 and everything right, and then all of a sudden 858 00:55:39,833 --> 00:55:42,333 something inside me, like an inner voice said, 859 00:55:42,333 --> 00:55:44,433 "Don't look at the mirror!" 860 00:55:44,433 --> 00:55:46,833 So then I just kept drawing in the book. 861 00:55:46,833 --> 00:55:48,666 And then the same voice said, 862 00:55:48,666 --> 00:55:50,466 "Don't look at your book!" 863 00:55:50,466 --> 00:55:55,466 Then I thought, "Oh my gosh, I may need to lay down." 864 00:55:56,066 --> 00:55:58,266 And I looked over at my bed and it said, 865 00:55:58,266 --> 00:56:00,433 "Don't look at your bed," like that, 866 00:56:00,433 --> 00:56:02,966 and I was just stuck. 867 00:56:02,966 --> 00:56:06,066 The medicine was trying to cut my brain off 868 00:56:06,066 --> 00:56:09,266 from my body. 869 00:56:09,266 --> 00:56:12,666 It really effects you, probably your nervous system 870 00:56:12,733 --> 00:56:15,900 and I had to physically force myself 871 00:56:15,900 --> 00:56:18,300 to keep drawing through the worst feeling ever. 872 00:56:18,300 --> 00:56:20,033 And it was then that I realized 873 00:56:20,033 --> 00:56:22,800 that when they shoot a lion with 874 00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:26,200 a tranquilizer dart, or if a bear gets trapped in a tree 875 00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:28,766 and they need to shoot it with a tranquilizer dart, 876 00:56:28,766 --> 00:56:30,433 it always looks to me like it's drunk, 877 00:56:30,433 --> 00:56:33,233 like in La-la Land, but it's not. 878 00:56:33,233 --> 00:56:36,066 In real life that lion still wants 879 00:56:36,066 --> 00:56:39,666 to chew their throats out of all those people 880 00:56:39,666 --> 00:56:41,933 It just can't move; that inner voice is saying, 881 00:56:41,933 --> 00:56:44,266 "Don't rip their throats out," like that. 882 00:56:44,266 --> 00:56:48,133 So it's scary, one of the most terrifying 883 00:56:48,133 --> 00:56:50,200 things I've ever experienced. 884 00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:52,366 Then, this is Ambien. 885 00:56:54,066 --> 00:56:56,166 And I kept getting lower and lower to the floor, 886 00:56:56,166 --> 00:56:59,733 by the time I got to my body, my arm 887 00:56:59,733 --> 00:57:03,500 was not even attached in the same place. 888 00:57:04,366 --> 00:57:06,300 Then Buspar, I snorted-- 889 00:57:06,300 --> 00:57:08,366 I crushed it up and snorted it 890 00:57:08,366 --> 00:57:11,900 because they said it would act faster that way. 891 00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:20,333 Then I drank a bunch of cough syrup. 892 00:57:22,133 --> 00:57:24,366 And my friend, when she saw this, she said, 893 00:57:24,366 --> 00:57:26,600 "You're giving yourself Down Syndrome," 894 00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:29,500 but I already knew that, kind of, subconciously 895 00:57:29,500 --> 00:57:32,166 because I found this Korean book in the trash 896 00:57:32,166 --> 00:57:35,466 and found a picture of a girl with Down Syndrome 897 00:57:35,466 --> 00:57:37,266 and put it on there. 898 00:57:37,266 --> 00:57:41,166 And I was drunk, almost hallucinating on cough syrup 899 00:57:41,166 --> 00:57:44,266 and I went to this Chinese restaurant up the street 900 00:57:44,266 --> 00:57:46,566 to ask what this meant because I knew 901 00:57:46,566 --> 00:57:49,633 there was the lady at the, when you walk in, 902 00:57:49,633 --> 00:57:52,233 the greeter, was Korean, so I was trying 903 00:57:52,233 --> 00:57:54,633 to find out what it meant and she wrote something 904 00:57:54,633 --> 00:57:59,000 and that said, "A very beautiful woman." 905 00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:03,400 So here's me and some Korean; it's very strange. 906 00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:06,100 Then this was huffing lighter fluids. 907 00:58:07,066 --> 00:58:09,300 Some old man knocked on my door and he said, 908 00:58:09,300 --> 00:58:12,133 "When I was a kid we used to huff lighter fluid," 909 00:58:12,133 --> 00:58:15,433 and he just stuffed his hand, gave me some lighter fluid. 910 00:58:15,433 --> 00:58:19,266 He said, "Put it on a sock, stick in a brown bag, 911 00:58:19,266 --> 00:58:22,266 "and just breathe that stuff and you'll get real messed up." 912 00:58:22,266 --> 00:58:25,233 And I did it, but I really liked the fact 913 00:58:25,233 --> 00:58:29,666 that I subconsciously picked this metallic crayons 914 00:58:29,666 --> 00:58:33,200 because it really shows the fumes. 915 00:58:33,900 --> 00:58:36,000 When I look at it I can still smell it 916 00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:39,366 and see the fumes and the blurry eye, 917 00:58:39,366 --> 00:58:42,300 like that metal smell or something. 918 00:58:42,866 --> 00:58:45,600 Then this one was Ritalin. 919 00:58:46,633 --> 00:58:49,200 It didn't really do too much to me, really. 920 00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:53,100 Like, in the other books you've seen more wild. 921 00:58:53,100 --> 00:58:56,200 Then this one, I made PCP. 922 00:58:59,666 --> 00:59:02,733 My face, you can see it's coming off in sections 923 00:59:02,733 --> 00:59:05,866 and then this is some vomit, not in real life, 924 00:59:05,866 --> 00:59:10,066 this is drawing, painted, but I vomited. 925 00:59:10,066 --> 00:59:12,333 I had eaten a sandwich earlier that day 926 00:59:12,333 --> 00:59:15,966 that had some tomato in it and then did 927 00:59:15,966 --> 00:59:19,866 the PCP and everything, then someone knocked on my door 928 00:59:19,866 --> 00:59:22,900 and said, "Oh, I heard you was on the Appalachian Trail, 929 00:59:22,900 --> 00:59:25,400 "and you got a lot of pictures and stuff." 930 00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:28,433 So invited them all in and I was sitting around 931 00:59:28,433 --> 00:59:31,766 telling 40 different people that-- 932 00:59:32,500 --> 00:59:35,200 I was showing them the Appalachian Trail book 933 00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:36,300 and then something told me, 934 00:59:36,300 --> 00:59:39,466 "Bryan, these people aren't real." 935 00:59:39,466 --> 00:59:42,433 And I was like, "Whoa, this is messed up!" 936 00:59:42,433 --> 00:59:44,533 Then there'd a knock at the door 937 00:59:44,533 --> 00:59:46,466 and they'd say, "Oh hi, Bryan, I heard 938 00:59:46,466 --> 00:59:48,233 "you were on the Appalachian Trail." 939 00:59:48,233 --> 00:59:51,300 I let them all in, 20,30 people 940 00:59:51,300 --> 00:59:53,033 and after, like, a half hour or so, 941 00:59:53,033 --> 00:59:54,633 showing them all that book and telling them all 942 00:59:54,633 --> 00:59:58,166 these crazy stories, BAM, these people aren't real. [laughs] 943 00:59:58,166 --> 01:00:01,333 And I would totally freak out. 944 01:00:01,333 --> 01:00:03,333 After I realized the third or fourth time 945 01:00:03,333 --> 01:00:07,133 that this kept happening, I went and vomited 946 01:00:07,133 --> 01:00:11,066 and all this red stuff was coming out 947 01:00:11,066 --> 01:00:12,566 of my nose and I thought, 948 01:00:12,566 --> 01:00:15,700 "Oh my god, my brain is falling out of my nose." 949 01:00:15,700 --> 01:00:17,933 But it wasn't; it was that tomato 950 01:00:17,933 --> 01:00:19,400 that was in that sandwich. 951 01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:23,266 But I was on PCP and I thought my brain was falling out. 952 01:00:23,266 --> 01:00:24,900 And then that's when I quit. 953 01:00:24,900 --> 01:00:28,000 I mean, I've done others since then 954 01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:30,766 but that's when that little experiment ended. 955 01:00:30,766 --> 01:00:33,333 I couldn't keep going on like that; it was crazy. 956 01:00:33,333 --> 01:00:38,333 [dramatic music] 957 01:02:26,300 --> 01:02:28,566 When I was living with my aunt, 958 01:02:28,566 --> 01:02:32,466 my second cousin, which was a small child, 959 01:02:32,466 --> 01:02:37,066 and her mother, and my grandmother 960 01:02:37,066 --> 01:02:41,800 and my great-aunt, there was a lot of chaos. 961 01:02:43,500 --> 01:02:46,233 I was living in a trailer in central Virginia 962 01:02:46,233 --> 01:02:51,233 and a lot of arguing and typical family-type of drama 963 01:02:52,033 --> 01:02:54,400 but it was somewhat stressful because 964 01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:56,766 the child was involved. 965 01:02:56,766 --> 01:03:00,766 My great-aunt, she was in the last stages of Alzheimer's 966 01:03:00,766 --> 01:03:03,600 and couldn't remember anything past 18 seconds, 967 01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:07,600 so she was constantly repeating the same questions. 968 01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:10,800 My grandmother had a couple strokes, 969 01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:14,633 there was just all this stress around me. 970 01:03:14,633 --> 01:03:18,100 And so I thought, "Well, I'd like to go to China." 971 01:03:18,100 --> 01:03:21,166 I thought if I went to China and I heard 972 01:03:21,166 --> 01:03:25,300 all of these people talking in Chinese 973 01:03:28,233 --> 01:03:31,500 I wouldn't mind, like, I could live with that. 974 01:03:31,500 --> 01:03:35,200 Then I thought, "Well, if I go to China, 975 01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:37,066 "I've heard so much stuff," like 976 01:03:37,066 --> 01:03:40,433 they drown their girl babies, 977 01:03:40,433 --> 01:03:42,633 there's just so much outrageous things. 978 01:03:42,633 --> 01:03:44,666 All my life, from elementary school on, 979 01:03:44,666 --> 01:03:46,433 I've heard all these outrageous things, and I thought, 980 01:03:46,433 --> 01:03:50,033 "Well, if I go there, I better learn Chinese first, 981 01:03:50,033 --> 01:03:51,466 "in case the people started yelling at me 982 01:03:51,466 --> 01:03:53,100 "I'll know what they're saying." 983 01:03:53,100 --> 01:03:57,400 So for 6 hours a day, everyday, 7 days a week 984 01:03:57,400 --> 01:04:02,266 for 9 months straight, I taught myself Mandarin Chinese. 985 01:04:02,266 --> 01:04:04,466 While I was doing this I would go, 986 01:04:04,466 --> 01:04:07,300 every now and then, to the Chinese restaurant in town 987 01:04:07,300 --> 01:04:10,466 and I could practice, and say some things. 988 01:04:10,466 --> 01:04:12,900 Then there was a waiter I befriended 989 01:04:12,900 --> 01:04:16,233 and he would come over once a week 990 01:04:16,233 --> 01:04:17,833 and I would teach him English. 991 01:04:17,833 --> 01:04:19,166 We didn't really do too much; I did 992 01:04:19,166 --> 01:04:22,633 the Chinese all on my own, but I really 993 01:04:22,633 --> 01:04:26,133 tried to help him learn English. 994 01:04:26,133 --> 01:04:28,600 But somewhere along that line I thought to myself, 995 01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:32,366 "Well, if I learn Mandarin Chinese," 996 01:04:32,366 --> 01:04:37,366 and I know it really well, I go to some city in China 997 01:04:40,033 --> 01:04:43,600 where there's no foreigners at all, no tourism, 998 01:04:43,600 --> 01:04:47,766 no white people; I'm the only white person there 999 01:04:47,766 --> 01:04:52,766 and I tell jokes in Chinese and do stand-up comedy, 1000 01:04:54,433 --> 01:04:55,700 I thought, "Well, I could become 1001 01:04:55,700 --> 01:04:58,800 "a famous comedian instantly." 1002 01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:00,933 Because they have so many millions of people. 1003 01:05:00,933 --> 01:05:05,033 Then I thought, "If I do stand-up comedy 1004 01:05:05,033 --> 01:05:10,033 "in China, within nine months I'll have my own sitcom," 1005 01:05:13,066 --> 01:05:15,133 and stuff, like Seinfeld or something, 1006 01:05:15,133 --> 01:05:17,966 And then I thought, "Well, right after 1007 01:05:17,966 --> 01:05:19,333 "that I'll be doing blockbuster movies, 1008 01:05:19,333 --> 01:05:22,666 I'll become a superstar, a Chinese superstar." 1009 01:05:22,666 --> 01:05:27,666 And I really believed that this could be a real possibility. 1010 01:05:28,600 --> 01:05:31,900 Then I did a Chinese wedding in New York 1011 01:05:31,900 --> 01:05:35,133 after about nine months of teaching myself Mandarin 1012 01:05:35,133 --> 01:05:38,300 I performed my, I wrote a routine and everything, 1013 01:05:38,300 --> 01:05:41,700 and I performed my stand-up comedy at a Chinese wedding 1014 01:05:41,700 --> 01:05:43,633 and it was a big hit, and I thought, 1015 01:05:43,633 --> 01:05:45,766 "Well, this is a real possibility. 1016 01:05:45,766 --> 01:05:48,100 "I'm doing it, I'm going to China, 1017 01:05:48,100 --> 01:05:50,800 "I'm going to become a famous stand-up comedian. 1018 01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:53,366 "Within a year, or a little over a year, 1019 01:05:53,366 --> 01:05:55,500 "I'll be a Chinese superstar." 1020 01:05:55,500 --> 01:06:00,533 Then I get to China and after a couple days 1021 01:06:02,966 --> 01:06:05,866 I met a guy on the street that had lived 1022 01:06:05,866 --> 01:06:08,233 in the United States for quite a while 1023 01:06:08,233 --> 01:06:11,966 and he spoke English and I said, 1024 01:06:11,966 --> 01:06:13,900 "Where is the stand-up comedy? 1025 01:06:13,900 --> 01:06:16,766 "I want to be a stand-up comedian." 1026 01:06:16,766 --> 01:06:18,833 And he said, "We don't have that here." 1027 01:06:18,833 --> 01:06:22,033 and I was like, "Oh my gosh." 1028 01:06:22,033 --> 01:06:25,433 All my dreams were completely shattered. 1029 01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:35,333 Then when I found myself back in the United States 1030 01:06:35,333 --> 01:06:38,666 I thought, "I cannot be a stand-up comedian." 1031 01:06:38,666 --> 01:06:43,066 There's thousands and thousands of stand-up comedians, 1032 01:06:43,066 --> 01:06:46,666 everyone wants to be a stand-up comedian, 1033 01:06:46,666 --> 01:06:50,033 there's just so much luck involved 1034 01:06:50,033 --> 01:06:52,933 and all this other type of business trying to do that. 1035 01:06:52,933 --> 01:06:57,933 And then I'm here, back in this nasty place 1036 01:06:58,500 --> 01:07:00,966 where I was a long time ago. 1037 01:07:00,966 --> 01:07:02,466 And I was like, "The hell with it, 1038 01:07:02,466 --> 01:07:04,900 "I'm going to start stand-up tragedy." 1039 01:07:04,900 --> 01:07:07,233 Instead of making strangers laugh in public 1040 01:07:07,233 --> 01:07:09,600 I'm going to make them cry. 1041 01:07:11,233 --> 01:07:14,266 I started doing it at this coffee shop. 1042 01:07:14,266 --> 01:07:17,033 I was nervous, like stage fright, 1043 01:07:17,033 --> 01:07:21,066 so I read other people's poetry, 1044 01:07:21,066 --> 01:07:25,933 or some writings, but I read it my own way 1045 01:07:25,933 --> 01:07:27,833 because, see, I'd been doing the self-portraits 1046 01:07:27,833 --> 01:07:31,800 the whole time, for over 10 years. 1047 01:07:31,800 --> 01:07:35,833 It was putting all of my feelings 1048 01:07:35,833 --> 01:07:40,833 into a little 8.5 by 11.5 inch sketchbook page. 1049 01:07:41,900 --> 01:07:45,400 So I was constantly putting all my feelings 1050 01:07:45,400 --> 01:07:47,900 into this confining little place. 1051 01:07:47,900 --> 01:07:50,266 Then when I started to decide, 1052 01:07:50,266 --> 01:07:54,566 "Okay, I'm going to do this other stuff," 1053 01:07:54,566 --> 01:07:58,733 it was an explosion of emotion. 1054 01:08:01,133 --> 01:08:02,900 I was bottled up into such 1055 01:08:02,900 --> 01:08:04,966 a little tiny place, surface area. 1056 01:08:04,966 --> 01:08:07,766 When I started reading the other people's poetry 1057 01:08:07,766 --> 01:08:11,366 I just went off, I just read it like I wanted to; 1058 01:08:11,366 --> 01:08:13,300 as aggressive as I wanted, as deranged sounding, 1059 01:08:13,300 --> 01:08:18,300 or whatever I wanted, I just did it really outrageously 1060 01:08:18,733 --> 01:08:22,966 Then I started writing my own stuff. 1061 01:08:22,966 --> 01:08:24,633 I'd read these other people's things; 1062 01:08:24,633 --> 01:08:27,700 I did it twice, reading other people's stuff, 1063 01:08:27,700 --> 01:08:29,600 then I wrote one thing, or two things, 1064 01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:31,833 and then I went and did it again the next week 1065 01:08:31,833 --> 01:08:33,800 that way, with my own stuff and it 1066 01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:35,933 had even more emotion in it. 1067 01:08:35,933 --> 01:08:39,100 Then one of the side goals in my mind 1068 01:08:39,100 --> 01:08:44,100 was to make psychopaths or sociopaths have feelings. 1069 01:08:44,466 --> 01:08:47,266 I've been concerned with this quite a bit. 1070 01:08:47,266 --> 01:08:52,133 So I tried to use videos, microphone. 1071 01:08:52,133 --> 01:08:54,766 My name is Bryan Lewis Saunders, 1072 01:08:54,766 --> 01:08:58,033 I'm 16 and I'm allergic to popcorn. 1073 01:08:58,033 --> 01:09:03,033 Sounds, experimental music to evoke 1074 01:09:03,800 --> 01:09:06,466 as much feeling into people as possible. 1075 01:09:06,466 --> 01:09:10,866 I was hoping I could do it so intense that even 1076 01:09:10,866 --> 01:09:14,000 a psychopath would have feelings and be upset. 1077 01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:16,766 I was a little bit delusional because no matter what 1078 01:09:16,766 --> 01:09:20,600 the people, the psychopaths would take it the wrong way. 1079 01:09:20,600 --> 01:09:24,266 You can say anything about some animal torture 1080 01:09:24,266 --> 01:09:27,566 or something and they will think it's funny. 1081 01:09:27,566 --> 01:09:30,000 It just depends on who the people are 1082 01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:32,333 but the psychopath that's there in the audience, 1083 01:09:32,333 --> 01:09:35,533 you not doing nothing for them but entertaining them. 1084 01:09:35,533 --> 01:09:38,166 They got off on some crazy stuff. 1085 01:09:38,166 --> 01:09:43,166 [melancholy music] 1086 01:11:11,066 --> 01:11:13,700 [eerie music] 1087 01:11:13,700 --> 01:11:17,066 The word "daku" has many definitions, 1088 01:11:17,066 --> 01:11:22,066 like love, time, God, or any other word. 1089 01:11:24,833 --> 01:11:28,100 Its meaning is its use. 1090 01:11:28,100 --> 01:11:31,066 By this I simply mean that its definition 1091 01:11:31,066 --> 01:11:34,400 lies in our daily conversation. 1092 01:11:34,400 --> 01:11:38,466 So for someone to say, "What is God," 1093 01:11:38,466 --> 01:11:43,366 "What is time," or "What is Daku," 1094 01:11:43,366 --> 01:11:47,700 creates linguistic superstitions. 1095 01:11:47,700 --> 01:11:52,666 It creates a mystery where there really isn't one. 1096 01:11:52,666 --> 01:11:55,533 We know what it is by how we use it. 1097 01:11:55,533 --> 01:12:00,566 Before I divulge the impact that Daku has had on my life 1098 01:12:00,633 --> 01:12:04,000 it is both necessary and vital 1099 01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:09,000 that I first share with you the origins of Daku. 1100 01:12:11,366 --> 01:12:16,366 [eerie music] 1101 01:13:33,100 --> 01:13:37,333 My first experience with the mysterious stomach pain 1102 01:13:37,333 --> 01:13:39,800 occurred when I was 16. 1103 01:13:39,800 --> 01:13:42,300 I was at a movie theater with a friend of mine, 1104 01:13:42,300 --> 01:13:46,500 named Craig Whines, eating popcorn in an aisle seat 1105 01:13:46,500 --> 01:13:49,066 when WHAM, I got broadsided by 1106 01:13:49,066 --> 01:13:52,133 the most excrutiating gigabolt of pain 1107 01:13:52,133 --> 01:13:54,266 comprehensible to man. 1108 01:13:54,266 --> 01:13:57,600 It doubled me over and my right arm stiffened 1109 01:13:57,600 --> 01:14:00,066 and stopped me from falling and rolling 1110 01:14:00,066 --> 01:14:02,833 all the way out into the aisle. 1111 01:14:02,833 --> 01:14:05,700 I could have make a somersault out of it. 1112 01:14:05,700 --> 01:14:08,933 But you don't show pain in public. 1113 01:14:10,633 --> 01:14:13,666 After the initial shock, it felt as if 1114 01:14:13,666 --> 01:14:16,000 the whole left side of my abdomen 1115 01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:20,566 was being pinched by an industrial strength metal clothespin 1116 01:14:20,566 --> 01:14:22,433 that had been heated up and stuck 1117 01:14:22,433 --> 01:14:24,600 where a drill bit is supposed to go 1118 01:14:24,600 --> 01:14:26,733 and then run in reverse, drawing me up tighter 1119 01:14:26,733 --> 01:14:29,366 and tighter until is stripped around, 1120 01:14:29,366 --> 01:14:32,366 triple knotted, burning more tissue in my gut 1121 01:14:32,366 --> 01:14:35,433 and I couldn't move. 1122 01:14:36,700 --> 01:14:40,633 Emotionally, fear and anger are brother and sister, 1123 01:14:40,633 --> 01:14:42,166 stay with me here. 1124 01:14:42,166 --> 01:14:45,900 My anticipation of more pain equals fear 1125 01:14:45,900 --> 01:14:48,866 and my perception of doctors as ignorant 1126 01:14:48,866 --> 01:14:51,200 equals anger, and when both of these feelings 1127 01:14:51,200 --> 01:14:54,300 taboo fornicate inside my head 1128 01:14:54,300 --> 01:14:56,500 I became the proud father of a bouncing, 1129 01:14:56,500 --> 01:14:59,566 new baby bad blood emotional incest offspring 1130 01:14:59,566 --> 01:15:03,400 of hatred towards man like none I've ever known before. 1131 01:15:03,400 --> 01:15:06,800 I have this little pet; it's name is Daku. 1132 01:15:06,800 --> 01:15:08,700 All of his teeth and claws came in, 1133 01:15:08,700 --> 01:15:11,266 I no longer eat, I only feed him. 1134 01:15:11,266 --> 01:15:13,533 He can't be killed unless I die. 1135 01:15:13,533 --> 01:15:15,633 He is an invisible part of me. 1136 01:15:15,633 --> 01:15:17,433 Daku is bad mystery. 1137 01:15:17,433 --> 01:15:20,733 No one, not even doctors with all of their machines 1138 01:15:20,733 --> 01:15:23,433 can see him, machines might make him high 1139 01:15:23,433 --> 01:15:24,800 but medicine makes him angry. 1140 01:15:24,800 --> 01:15:26,900 And we don't want him angry! 1141 01:15:26,900 --> 01:15:28,800 He digs and claws, meats and tears, 1142 01:15:28,800 --> 01:15:31,566 rips and gnaws and chews tunnels in my gut 1143 01:15:31,566 --> 01:15:33,066 always moving forwards. 1144 01:15:33,066 --> 01:15:35,266 Sometimes I feel like rescuing him 1145 01:15:35,266 --> 01:15:37,233 by taking a knife and freeing him. 1146 01:15:37,233 --> 01:15:38,600 Cut Daku out! 1147 01:15:38,600 --> 01:15:40,633 Sometimes I think he's cancer. 1148 01:15:40,633 --> 01:15:43,400 Daku says "yes", but the doctors say "no." 1149 01:15:43,400 --> 01:15:46,000 I get a pain in my chest when he's not in his nest. 1150 01:15:46,000 --> 01:15:47,833 I can't walk when he's hungry, 1151 01:15:47,833 --> 01:15:49,800 I can't sleep when he's lonely. 1152 01:15:49,800 --> 01:15:52,900 I've often tried to talk to the Daku 1153 01:15:52,900 --> 01:15:54,200 but he doesn't listen very well, either. 1154 01:15:54,200 --> 01:15:56,766 He's unruly and I think Daku is deaf. 1155 01:15:56,766 --> 01:15:59,866 If I stabbed him I'd be certain of relief. 1156 01:15:59,866 --> 01:16:02,800 Daku hates to be petted so I poke at him. 1157 01:16:02,800 --> 01:16:04,400 He's outgrowing his tank. 1158 01:16:04,400 --> 01:16:08,066 Daku can also eat in two different places at the same time. 1159 01:16:08,066 --> 01:16:11,366 He's right here just begging me to stab him, 1160 01:16:11,366 --> 01:16:13,833 gut him, gut myself, pull him out 1161 01:16:13,833 --> 01:16:15,233 and stomp on the Daku. 1162 01:16:15,233 --> 01:16:17,666 Daku is no friend, Daku is killing me! 1163 01:16:17,666 --> 01:16:20,466 ["killing me" echoes] 1164 01:16:20,466 --> 01:16:25,466 [crowd cheers] 1165 01:16:35,900 --> 01:16:40,900 [melancholy paino music] 1166 01:17:24,500 --> 01:17:29,500 [upbeat music] 1167 01:17:30,566 --> 01:17:32,400 A lot of the time people, I think, 1168 01:17:32,400 --> 01:17:34,266 when it comes to me they're just trying 1169 01:17:34,266 --> 01:17:36,566 to figure out if what I'm doing is even real or not. 1170 01:17:36,566 --> 01:17:41,566 I don't fault them with it; it's just the times we live in. 1171 01:17:42,333 --> 01:17:46,000 I consider myself weird, I know I'm weird. 1172 01:17:46,000 --> 01:17:50,500 If you isolate yourself, you develop weird ideas. 1173 01:17:50,500 --> 01:17:53,366 I wouldn't film me walking through here, though. 1174 01:17:59,800 --> 01:18:02,233 Let's take these stairs. 1175 01:18:02,233 --> 01:18:04,500 Because I interact socially with people online 1176 01:18:04,500 --> 01:18:08,533 and with the phone, I'm not totally alone 1177 01:18:08,533 --> 01:18:11,666 and I've got friends that can say, 1178 01:18:11,666 --> 01:18:13,233 "You're getting a little bit-- 1179 01:18:13,233 --> 01:18:16,233 "That's too much, that's too weird, 1180 01:18:18,166 --> 01:18:20,333 "That's not really the politically correct way 1181 01:18:20,333 --> 01:18:23,466 "to go about expressing that," 1182 01:18:23,466 --> 01:18:26,300 I get feedback. 1183 01:18:26,300 --> 01:18:28,733 I will say that I'm definitely strange, 1184 01:18:28,733 --> 01:18:33,733 I would definitely say I would think of myself as weird. 1185 01:18:35,333 --> 01:18:39,500 Some people might think of me as creepy; 1186 01:18:40,166 --> 01:18:41,966 I don't think I'm creepy, I think 1187 01:18:41,966 --> 01:18:45,133 that people might be creeps themselves 1188 01:18:45,133 --> 01:18:47,566 and see something of that creepy nature 1189 01:18:47,566 --> 01:18:50,533 in them, and then be like, "Oh, that's creepy." 1190 01:18:50,533 --> 01:18:54,166 because it maybe affects them. 1191 01:18:54,166 --> 01:18:55,833 I don't set out to be like, "Oh, I'm going 1192 01:18:55,833 --> 01:18:58,500 "to be as creepy as possible," or something like that. 1193 01:18:58,500 --> 01:19:02,900 If I was going to do that, I'd be a real creep, 1194 01:19:02,900 --> 01:19:04,700 I mean I would creep people out big-time, 1195 01:19:04,700 --> 01:19:07,800 more than they could handle it. 1196 01:19:07,800 --> 01:19:10,233 I don't have any desire to do that. 1197 01:19:10,233 --> 01:19:14,166 I'm sure that some people think that I'm creepy. 1198 01:19:17,566 --> 01:19:20,566 But I tell stories like this. 1199 01:19:20,566 --> 01:19:24,266 It doesn't haunt me so much, like, 1200 01:19:24,266 --> 01:19:27,133 I don't still fear the bad people. 1201 01:19:27,133 --> 01:19:29,900 I really became one of them. 1202 01:19:29,900 --> 01:19:32,966 I still have this negative self-image a lot of times, 1203 01:19:32,966 --> 01:19:36,666 like, oh I'm a bad person, I became one of the bad people. 1204 01:19:36,666 --> 01:19:41,666 But people that know me now, and don't know 1205 01:19:43,233 --> 01:19:45,133 anything about me in this past 1206 01:19:45,133 --> 01:19:47,100 other than what I say during my performances 1207 01:19:47,100 --> 01:19:48,900 or in my books, or dreams and things. 1208 01:19:48,900 --> 01:19:52,633 They would never think I was a bad person. 1209 01:19:53,900 --> 01:19:58,900 I use the art, really, to change my life 1210 01:19:59,366 --> 01:20:01,433 and become a good person. 1211 01:20:01,433 --> 01:20:05,233 I need to more accepting that I am a good person, 1212 01:20:05,233 --> 01:20:06,433 try to be a good person 1213 01:20:06,433 --> 01:20:10,766 but I fear under certain stress, 1214 01:20:10,766 --> 01:20:15,766 or some situations, social situations, 1215 01:20:16,600 --> 01:20:21,066 I could easily revert; I have that ingrained into me 1216 01:20:21,066 --> 01:20:26,066 that kind of anger, and lack of emotions sometimes 1217 01:20:27,400 --> 01:20:32,033 and I have to try to really stay focused. 1218 01:20:32,033 --> 01:20:35,200 And I isolate myself, really, 1219 01:20:35,466 --> 01:20:37,400 so I don't get involved in that. 1220 01:20:40,166 --> 01:20:41,100 [dramatic music] 1221 01:20:46,833 --> 01:20:50,500 When it comes to the dark side 1222 01:20:50,500 --> 01:20:53,033 in the arts, and the tortured soul, 1223 01:20:53,033 --> 01:20:56,733 the tortured people are the ones that give a shit. 1224 01:20:56,733 --> 01:20:59,033 The tortured people are the people that care. 1225 01:20:59,033 --> 01:21:01,800 So there's nothing wrong with that. 1226 01:21:01,800 --> 01:21:06,166 And art is probably the greatest tool 1227 01:21:06,166 --> 01:21:08,700 we have right now to deal with it, 1228 01:21:08,700 --> 01:21:11,933 to deal with all of it. 1229 01:21:11,933 --> 01:21:14,333 I'd say there's a real great link. 1230 01:21:14,333 --> 01:21:16,400 Some kids get into art because 1231 01:21:16,400 --> 01:21:18,033 they don't know what else to do, 1232 01:21:18,033 --> 01:21:20,266 so at the universities they'll tell them, 1233 01:21:20,266 --> 01:21:21,966 "Well, you don't have to be tortured, 1234 01:21:21,966 --> 01:21:25,633 "you don't have to do this, you can just like images," 1235 01:21:25,633 --> 01:21:28,866 but a lot of times I think there's something lacking. 1236 01:21:28,866 --> 01:21:33,366 I would suggest that if someone is not upset 1237 01:21:33,366 --> 01:21:35,266 they want to be an artist, they like art, 1238 01:21:35,266 --> 01:21:39,300 they think it's really interesting, and they're not upset, 1239 01:21:39,300 --> 01:21:41,233 I'd say find something to get upset about. 1240 01:21:41,233 --> 01:21:46,233 Go there and then you can really be inspired 1241 01:21:47,600 --> 01:21:49,100 and do some great stuff that will provoke 1242 01:21:49,100 --> 01:21:51,033 other people to use their brains. 1243 01:21:51,033 --> 01:21:52,666 Because there's not even enough people 1244 01:21:52,666 --> 01:21:55,400 in the Western world really even using 1245 01:21:55,400 --> 01:21:57,900 their brains anymore, and it gets worse 1246 01:21:57,900 --> 01:22:00,633 as time goes by, that they're doing less thinking, 1247 01:22:00,633 --> 01:22:04,500 more repeating, more cut and paste. 1248 01:22:07,333 --> 01:22:09,333 So I would recommend to people 1249 01:22:09,333 --> 01:22:14,333 get tortured, become a tortured soul, really. 1250 01:22:14,400 --> 01:22:16,600 I don't suggest go out and get drunk 1251 01:22:16,600 --> 01:22:20,200 or create problems for yourself, 1252 01:22:20,200 --> 01:22:24,266 but I would just say, "Find out what bothers you 1253 01:22:24,266 --> 01:22:29,266 "and explore it, find out what upsets you, 1254 01:22:29,366 --> 01:22:31,700 "find out what really gets your goat, 1255 01:22:31,700 --> 01:22:35,700 "what really pisses you off, and then explore that." 1256 01:22:35,700 --> 01:22:39,366 Ask yourself, "Why is that, what is it about me 1257 01:22:39,366 --> 01:22:43,233 "that makes react this way, or feel this way," 1258 01:22:43,233 --> 01:22:44,866 and then go there. 1259 01:22:44,866 --> 01:22:46,666 And they're going to do some interesting stuff 1260 01:22:46,666 --> 01:22:48,000 no matter who they are; whether 1261 01:22:48,000 --> 01:22:50,033 they're really that tortured or not. 1262 01:22:50,033 --> 01:22:53,000 You don't have to be insane and ranting 1263 01:22:53,000 --> 01:22:56,133 and raving, and flopping around 1264 01:22:56,133 --> 01:22:58,500 and cutting parts of your body off 1265 01:22:58,500 --> 01:23:01,200 to do great art; you just have to give a shit. 1266 01:23:01,200 --> 01:23:04,533 You just have to care about something. 1267 01:23:04,533 --> 01:23:06,800 And not enough people do. 1268 01:23:08,166 --> 01:23:10,566 I would just recommend people care. 1269 01:23:10,566 --> 01:23:15,566 [dramatic music] 1270 01:23:16,433 --> 01:23:21,433 [theme music] 94406

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