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- Tonight,

- Tonight, the reunion concludes.

Erika is suffering from PTSD.

- [chuckles] - At least you're not

schizophrenic... [laughs]

- Could you give her some pills?

[laughter]

- I'm rude to everybody. There you go.

Join the... ing club, I mean, I said...[laughs]

- You're always in a tizzy, and I'm always calming you down.

She has her knickers in a permanent twist.

- That's your friend. - I did lose a lot of family.

- Yeah. - And, um, you know...

- I don't wanna air laundry with my sisters

that aren't on the show.

I feel its unfair to talk about them, honestly.

My grandmother meant a lot to me too.

Do you know her name? - No.

- You are much more calculating than you're saying.

You are not this innocent fawn in the woods.

- Here I am, trying to voice my opinion.

- Raise up, or get the (BLEEP) out, come on, girl.

[dramatic music]

♪ ♪

- Lisa Vanderpump, at Dorit's fashion show,

you told her the decision to remove the photos

from the magazine had been made a few days before,

yet we saw in the footage that it was a month before.

- Did you tell her about that and ask her about it,

or you just did it?

- Well, it was only decided yesterday.

- Oh. - Yeah.

- It's your jewelry. It's our magazine.

And we made her look stunning.

And then she decides that it's just not good enough?

I don't want that energy in the magazine.

We're dropping it. We have a stunning model.

We have an amazing shoot today.

- Why weren't you up-front with Dorit?

- No, but... no, in the footage, you see me reshooting it,

but we don't know if we're gonna like them.

We used Dorit's pictures with...

Of her hands and her décolletage.

- But did you do that and cut off the head because...

Genuinely, Lisa, because, you know,

we're honest with one another. - Yeah.

- Because you were looking to punish me? Or...

- Punish you? You didn't like them.

- Lisa... - But it is kind of harsh

to cut off someone's head. - But that was exactly...

- It kind of is, you know?

- It's kinda like, you know what? (BLEEP) you.

- It's like (BLEEP) you. - You didn't do what I wanted.

You made a scene, she feels like you were an asshole.

Watch me, I'ma be another asshole and chop your... ing

head off and put them in. Do you see what I'm saying?

- You know, you've been punished by Lisa in a fun way.

Where do you see this? - So fun.

Listen, do I think that

the head was chopped off on purpose?

I mean... - Be honest. Be honest.

- Yeah. I think she thought, well, whatever.

You don't wanna be in it? Fine, off with her head.

- Well, I mean, you didn't chop her head off not on purpose.

It wasn't a mistake that you chopped her head off.

- I don't want to go into the dynamics of the magazine,

but I didn't personally edit the photographs.

- How did you ultimately feel

about seeing your head chopped off?

- Well, I felt like

she could've had a dialogue with me

and let me know that.

- Did you believe Lisa when she said that she had

only made the decision a few days before?

- No. - You think she had made it...

- I do, because evidence points to that.

I mean, she had another photo shoot.

- Vanderpump, at the fashion show

when you said Dorit's photos would run in the magazine

but it would only feature her hands

and décolletage... - Which is exactly

what I thought it was gonna be originally.

- To me, it looked like you were making

the decision in that moment.

It kinda looked like you were spitballing.

- No. What, you mean right then and there?

- Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

- No. - No?

- Actually, I don't wanna...

I don't make those decisions, honestly.

- You don't? - The fashion director does.

- Lisa, you're editor-in-chief.

I'm sure if you wanted photos in a magazine,

they would be in there. - But by then I didn't care.

I really didn't care because you weren't happy with them.

I didn't care.

- Okay. - Do you wish you'd been in it?

- I think it would've been nice.

- Normally you don't even have that power.

If you're in a magazine and you shoot it,

the editor gets to put in whatever they want.

Why did you give her so much power?

Like, why'd you care? Why didn't you just

print those pictures? They were gorgeous.

Like, why didn't you?

- Because Mark was absolutely adamant

that any negativity surrounding the magazine was not gonna fly.

- But the negative pictures still ended up

in the final cut. - Yeah.

- You just cut her head off.

[all speaking at once]

- Do you see what I'm saying? - Yeah, but it wasn't her.

Because she wasn't happy with how she looks.

- But it's still the same images.

So the negative images made the final print anyway.

They're still there. - [sighs]

- The negative images are still there.

- There's no negativity. - Why didn't you use

the other model's pictures? Then there'd be no negativity.

- You're damned if you do, and you're damned if you don't.

How the (BLEEP) do you win with this group?

[laughter] - You don't, you don't win!

Ever! - You hit the nail on the head.

Every one of us feel that exact same way.

You put it absolutely beautifully.

- How do you win? - You can't!

- Okay, so we're a bunch of losers.

Let's get used to it. - Yes!

- So how are the two of you these days?

- Well, until today, we were doing really well.

- [laughs] - Is the issue out

now on stands?

- Yes, do you want a copy? - [laughs]

- I wanna see her chopped off head.

Rinna, you said that Dorit's time with Vanderpump

as the pet may be up because a newer, younger version

has come along. - [laughs]

- So by that math... - Yes?

- That means Teddi could be on her way out.

- Well, Teddi better mind her P's and Q's, certainly.

- [laughs]

- Okay, we do see the funny side,

but I have a very different relationship with Teddi than...

I mean, she's four years older than my daughter,

for God's sake, so it is very different

compared to, you know, these old bags.

[laughter] - Who you calling an old bag?

- Lisa, when did you first start calling Teddi teddy bear?

- I told her when I first met her that Teddi was Ken's

nickname and it's gonna be the name of my first grandchild.

I told you that.

So, she's like a little teddy bear.

I just... I think she's so cute, I mean...

- Do you like the nickname? - I don't mind it.

I mean, it's one of those things, like,

from the very start, she was very welcoming to me,

and that's how I took it.

- Dorit, what do you think of the nickname?

- [laughs] - I... it's, you know,

I'm not calling her it,

so it doesn't really matter what I think

if she likes it. [laughter]

- Lisa, you kinda like it that Dorit was jealous of...

- She likes to squirm... I think she does enjoy

watching her squirm. - You know what?

What I was saddened about

was the demise of my friendship with Dorit.

- It's not demise. You're still together.

- At the time it was. At the time it was, Erika.

- It's a bump in the road where you learn about each other

and you grow from it, it's fine.

- It's not demise, babe.

- No, but a temporary demise...

- That's better. - Okay.

- But why? Because she called you insecure and...

- [sighs] - What was the other thing?

- Your mom didn't love you. - Needy of love and attention.

- What level are we talking? I'm trying to get clear on it,

'cause it doesn't seem like it's that big of a deal.

- It wasn't that big of a deal, but my feelings were hurt.

As Teddi said, her feelings would've been hurt, too,

and as Erika actually agreed,

said her feelings would be hurt.

- Very reticently, yes. - So, by the way, I said

that you guys are newer friends.

Even though you guys became close soon,

you are newer friends, and I told you separately,

without anyone around, you should say something

about what you said, just because I do know her

really well and I didn't want... - Anybody would've been hurt.

- And you know I was coming from a good place.

I think you know that when I said that.

- You know what I think she does?

Is that because she talks so much,

she forgets the accuracy in her recollection.

- Yeah, but boy, were you hard on me when I didn't remember

the accuracy of my recollection.

- Yeah, well, we were... yeah. Of course you feel safe.

I'd feel safe maligning somebody else.

- I wasn't maligning.

- You were contesting her sobriety.

- This was after, you know, after game night.

- What, so you make that judgment call?

- Yeah, it wasn't necessarily a fair judgment call.

- It was a judgment though, Lisa.

- Yes it was, Lisa.

It's so interesting to me that...

- We all have different standards

for each and every... yeah. - We have different standards.

We really do.

- Well, we'll be right back. - That's true.

- Do you want to do a photo shoot for my magazine?

- I need my own hair and makeup, mother... er.

- It's not gonna happen. - I know.

- Coming up...

- I think there's a lot that goes on

in the two of your relationship.

It's deeper than it seems.

[tense hip-hop music]

- We're back with the Real

- We're back with the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills.

Well, when Erika

and her Fraulein set off for Germany,

it was Berlin or bust. Take a look.

- Here we come, Berlin.

- When I think of Germany... Berlin... I think of edgy city.

- Look at that. That's gorgeous.

- Old architecture, new architecture,

and then I think of schnitzel and beer.

Ja... or Da, whatever.

[upbeat folk music]

[cheering]

♪ ♪

- Do I know any German? [speaks gibberish]

- [speaks gibberish] I don't know.

- Wienerschnitzel?

- Kann ist un Bier haben? Can I get another beer?

- We have a special menu for you.

And we have a gin basil.

- What's a chin basil? - Gin with lemon and basil.

- What's chin? Oh, gin, gin. - [laughs]

- May I ask what that is? - Veal tartare.

- No, I'm not eating baby moo-moo.

- I ate the veal. I'm international like that.

All: Hi. - Look at this baby.

No, wait, I can't take it. I'm dying.

[growls softly] [solemn music]

- Massive part of Jewish history.

- Each one symbolizes each life lost.

That's just so awful.

This is actually a very scary feeling.

- My grandfather, while living in Poland,

at 16 years old, was...

ripped from his house at dinner.

Two of his siblings were killed by the Nazis,

and his parents were sent

to a concentration camp in Siberia.

Thank God we've never had to live

in a world... in a life... - No... yeah.

- Where we ever have to deal with something as big as this.

- The visit to the Eisenman Holocaust Memorial

was quite touching.

Dorit, both of your parents are Jewish?

- Yes. - I have to imagine that

going to that memorial was quite meaningful to you.

- For sure. - Yeah.

- I think anytime, you know,

I see anything that has to do with the Holocaust,

it's difficult because I did lose a lot of family.

- Yeah.

- And, um, you know...

It's just that simple.

- Kyle, you converted to Judaism for Mauricio, right?

- Yes.

- How did the war affect his family?

- Um, you know, I don't know enough of the history.

I just know that when they left there and they went to Mexico,

um, but I know they also obviously...

Everyone lost family in the Holocaust.

- Yeah.

Rinna, it looked like a scary moment on the horse.

- Ho, ho.

Ho... [screams]

Well, it was, actually, because usually I can

stop things that are going... That are moving,

and when you can't stop something that's moving,

it's a bit scary, but thank God for Teddi,

'cause she stopped that horse, I mean...

- No, but you were brave and strong and you...

If you would've freaked out, it would've freaked out

a lot more. - Well, thank God.

- We were all freaked out. That was not a good time.

- Why did you go horseback riding

when you're deathly allergic to horses?

- Well, okay... your allergies get worse as you get older.

- Uh-huh. - And... or as time...

They accumulate in your system, I guess.

I've never had an "anaphylactic reaction" to a horse.

I mean, we're in the middle of...

- Nowhere. - Nowhere.

With no EpiPen, no doctor.

I have some German guy coming up to me... first aid guys...

Saying, you know, take the... [speaks gibberish]

And I was like, "What am I taking?"

I get freaked out about medicine.

- What caused the panic attack?

- The fact that my throat felt like it was closing,

and the whites in my eyes were blood red.

- They were bright red. - Because I got scared,

I started to panic.

- Erika, you were late for the boat,

and then you almost got hit by a bike.

[tires screeching]

- Oh, it was the best ever.

- Wouldn't you have just bounced?

- [laughs] - In the latex?

- No, I probably would've just tangled up and died.

- [laughing] You would've?

- No, it was intense. I was late... yeah.

My day started late at the zoo 'cause I was looking

for a doctor, and it just kept snowballing.

- Vanderpump, why was it so upsetting to you

that Kyle forgot Nanny K., your grandma?

- Because I've mentioned Nanny K. so many times.

- Lisa, you have somebody here for you now.

It's your grandmother. - I was very close to her

for the last 25 years.

Nanny K. doesn't wanna be woken up again.

She said, "No way. Leave me alone."

- [laughs] - And I don't want to

to speak to my grandmother. I don't think I do.

- Nanny K. is not available. She's busy in heaven.

[laughter]

- Nanny K. lived with me for 25 years on and off.

She's like a mother to me.

She was one of the most important people in my life.

Erika remembered her. - By the way,

when you speak of your grandmother, which is often,

you always say, "my grandmother."

- No I don't, I say "Nanny K."

- Okay, well, let me ask you a question.

- My book's dedicated to Nanny K.

- When I met you, she already passed away.

My grandmother meant a lot to me too.

Do you know her name? - No.

But you don't talk about... I know your mother's name.

Big Kathy and I know all... - Well, yeah.

But, okay, my point is, that doesn't have any,

you know, indication of my love for you.

- I want to be really frank here, okay?

And this is not designed to hurt you at all,

and it's not gonna hurt you.

But most of our conversations between us...

Hand to God... 90% of them are about you.

Because she has anxiety, because she has,

you know, hypochondria, because of family dynamics,

she does, we've been...

- I'm always there to listen to anything you talk about.

[both speaking at once]

- That's your friend. - Multiple slerosis and this...

- Who knows. - Multiple sclerosis.

Not sleroris. - You know what I'm saying.

- Don't know, whatever that is. - Sclerosis.

- Okay, no, I don't... [all speaking at once]

- Yes, we talked about my anxiety.

- I happen to be, like, an older sister to you,

to really counsel you and calm you down constantly.

- Listen, I'm a much more open person than you too.

I share a lot more about my personal life

than you share. - Yes, you do.

- I'm happy and always listen to anything you share...

- Yeah, but you're always in a tizzy,

and I'm always calming you down.

- You're always in a hysterical tizzy.

- That's why we're friends. [laughter]

She has her knickers in a permanent twist.

- 'Cause you're a caretaker. You take care of her.

- If it's so bothersome to you... [laughs]

- I always listen when you're upset, always.

- Rinna, you're getting a kick out of this... why?

- Well, 'cause I'm not part of it.

[laughs] - Oh.

- I was just gonna say,

I feel like that's what friendship is.

You know, everybody's gonna have different things

that they discuss, and if it's something that you don't

enjoy doing as a friend to somebody, you can say to them,

"Hey, listen, I can't do this. I can't be this friend to you."

- No, but I like to be that friend to her.

- Rinna, do you think that Vanderpump likes it

when Kyle is...

kind of vulnerable?

- I don't know.

I think the roles that

get played in their relationship

is Lisa takes care of Kyle in some form

because Kyle comes to her, it sounds like,

with vulnerable situations. - But I like to do that.

But that's a mean thing to say.

Again, who wrote this sh...? Who actually would say...

- Oh! - Lisa, Lisa...

Yes, you invented that question.

- I did because I saw her muttering

during that conversation. - Okay, all right, okay.

- I think it's complicated. I think there's a lot

that goes on in the two of your relationship.

It's deeper than it seems. That's what I'm saying.

- But for the most part, we have a good time and we laugh.

- Yes, of course you love each other and all of that,

yes, yes, yes, but we're not really talking about that.

- You really feel that your relationship with her

is all about her?

- I love her madly, but I do feel like...

- Definitely a two-way street. - I'm more invested in her

life, than... - Than she is in yours?

- And you know what? Maybe that's what I give out.

- This is an new thing that you just came up with today.

- For you to suddenly say it's not all about you

is so wrong because...

- Oh, that's why you're saying this today...

That usually our conversations are about me,

'cause I said it was all about you, okay.

- Maybe I felt, like, a little drained.

Maybe I felt upset. Maybe I felt tired.

Maybe I didn't wanna sit there waiting.

And maybe I didn't like it when you said,

"I feel you guys have planned it."

- Maybe you didn't like that it wasn't about you for a minute.

- Listen, what I'm trying to say

is that our relationship... Because she's got...

She's so paranoid because she's got all her anxiety,

because she got a family thing... all these things...

I feel a lot of the time, I'm like a matriarchal,

or an "older sister" to her, talking her down off the ledge.

And you know what? I'm fine with that,

because I feel like I must look after her

a little bit, you know?

So could you apologize for that?

- Saying that it's all about you?

- Yeah. - I'm sorry.

- Could you also apologize...

- You just said it's all about her.

- No, when she said it was all about me at the Palihouse.

- Oh, I just got it. It took me all that time.

I just, like, got it.

- If I thought that everything was all about you all the time,

I wouldn't love you and be as close as we are.

- Okay, well then, that's good enough.

- Don't make it a bigger issue than it is.

It was the Palihouse. - Okay, thank you.

- Coming up...

- I don't really talk about that stuff

because they're not a part of the show.

[voice breaking] Um...

- Oh, Kyle.

[solemn music]

- We're back with the Real

- We're back with the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills.

Kyle is an American woman living the American dream,

but be careful what you wish for,

as the reality of success isn't always award-winning.

- Who wants to see "American Woman"?

- Me. - I do!

- "American Woman" is inspired by my life

growing up with my mom in the '70s.

- How do you think your sisters will feel when they watch this?

- I hope excited. They haven't seen it yet.

When I'm with my sisters,

"American Woman" doesn't usually come up.

I feel like, since the beginning, that

they didn't really understand what the project was.

It's not exactly our life at all.

- I am gonna cheer you on like your own mother would.

[mellow music]

♪ ♪

- Every time that, you know,

Kathy succeeded in something or Kim or I did,

my mom would always say it. This was her expression.

"This is feather in all of our caps."

We're a team, you know, we all stick together.

My mom was always about that.

- [softly] Oh.

- My family celebrates Christmas...

- Right. - But I'm not always

invited now, so, it's like, you know...

- No.

- I wouldn't, like, go with

my husband over to Kathy's.

My husband, for years, worked for my brother-in-law,

and, you know, then he went off on his own.

That doesn't always work well in a family dynamic,

and it can complicate things.

I mean, I love my sisters a lot.

It's very complicated.

- So, when will "American Woman" finally premiere?

- This summer. - Very exciting.

- Have your sisters seen it? - Not yet.

- Are you nervous? - No, no, I'm not nervous.

I actually am eager for them to see it,

especially Kathy. She had a different idea

of what the show is going to be,

so I'm looking forward to her seeing it, and you know...

- Just in that clip on the finale,

it seemed like it was about three sisters and a mom.

Is there issue that they feel

that it's their story to tell and not just yours?

- No, because, well, first of all,

it's not exactly like our life.

There's two sisters in the show, not three.

And, you know, the writers take creative license.

That's why I kept saying, "inspired by, inspired by,"

not "based on."

So I think they thought it was more literal.

I would never take, you know,

the liberty to tell someone else's story ever.

- How is your relationship with Kathy right now?

- Um...

Not great.

- Are you speaking?

- I saw her last night. No.

- Honestly, not right now and that's why I'm looking forward

to her seeing "American Woman" 'cause I think she's gonna

look and say, "I read the situation wrong,"

and, you know, and then we'll go from there.

- When was the last time you spoke?

- Maybe, um, six months ago.

- Wow.

And this is all over the show?

- Yeah.

- Did you think about just sending her the script

and saying, "Look, this is not what you think"?

- I told her all the time, you know?

I said, this is not... you know, I'm not sharing your stories

or Kim's, just my own stories, and not only that, you know,

it's a fictionalized version of, you know, our life,

and our mom being a single mom in the '70s

is the jumping off point.

- Is there more than the TV show?

- You know, I think it started with, you know,

my husband leaving their real estate company

and opening the agency.

- I have been approached to create our own company,

and it's so difficult for me to deal with that

because of the family.

- If your mother was alive,

I think then the cohesion

would've pulled them back together.

And I think now the mother's not part of the equation,

it's easy... and honestly,

that's what Kathy said to me last night.

- Well, I have to tell you, in watching that scene,

I never... and I don't really

talk about that stuff because they're not a part of the show.

[voice breaking] Um...

- Oh, Kyle.

- I feel it's unfair to talk about them, honestly.

And... but I felt so in that moment,

because the night before, I had so much to share,

and I didn't feel like I could. - Yeah.

- And even though my husband is incredibly supportive,

you know, he really is,

it's different than having someone you grew up with,

like your mom or your sisters, and I lost it in that moment,

and you were really sweet and supportive, Dorit,

and then I felt so bad that, you know, because...

- You know, let me ask you this.

You have a new show called "Glass Houses."

- Yeah. - And it's described

in "Variety" as being about a woman who launches

her own company and challenges the dominance

of the grande dame of the LA real estate world,

her former employer and mother-in-law.

I mean, is that similar to what Mauricio went through

with your brother-in-law? - Once again, the idea

that I'm creating has nothing to do with actual stories.

- Are you tempting fate by potentially pissing off

your sister more with this second show?

- Well, yeah, they didn't... Kathy didn't like that either.

My life is my life, you know?

And if I get an idea sparked by something, I'm not...

I would never throw any of my family under the bus ever.

My sisters, my mom...

[voice breaking] My dad, anybody...

- Family means everything to Kyle.

- I feel sad about my sisters and I also feel sad about,

you know, 'cause I remember in that moment how close I felt

to her and how supportive she was and, you know,

it meant a lot to me. - I know, me too, Kyle.

My friendship with you... It means so much to me,

which is why I just feel the way I feel, I just...

- I know, I felt bad about that.

- You know, I think we have a few things to work on.

- I would get upset about things that you said or did,

but I never ever wavered in my feelings,

saying that you're a good person and I care about you,

and that I adore you; literally never once

have said anything other than that.

Is that not true? - Well, you adore her.

- Not one time.

- Up next...

- I've never been spoken to

the way that you speak to me, and it bothers me.

- You think you're a fawn amongst sharks.

- Welcome back to

- Welcome back to "The Real Housewives

of Beverly Hills" reunion.

"Cool Girls and Crybabies" could be the title

of Erika Jayne's next big dance hit,

or just the way some might describe

her tumultuous summer with Teddi.

Let's listen to the song that went wrong.

- Nice to meet you. Happy birthday.

- I know, happy birthday.

- How was it growing up with your dad?

- Well, I don't know him.

[laughing] I'm sorry.

I'm being an asshole.

- Erika comes off to me like a cool girl.

You know, like, I'm too cool for anything.

- For you. - Thank you very much.

- This is gorgeous. I'm downstairs.

I've got my bed.

I had all intentions of staying at her house,

but I wasn't feeling well,

and I wasn't getting any better.

- Yeah, I'm gonna come stay with you.

Oh, psych, I'm actually gonna stay in a hotel.

It's like, don't fudge it. - So you're mad at me

that I didn't spend the night here last night?

I didn't wanna bleed all over your sheets.

- Okay, this is becoming a bigger deal than it should be.

Honestly... - I get it. I get it.

Okay, I don't need anymore petting.

I'm fine. - It makes me feel weird

as grown woman that has a good life and good friends

that one person can affect you that way.

It's like... What is that?

- Well, that's me being hurt.

[scoffs]

It's way too difficult to be friends with this chick.

It's like... [scoffs] Really?

I don't, you know, I don't need to work that hard

to be friends with anybody.

[ominous music]

Maybe it did, maybe it didn't. It's possible.

- So you pretending that it's full amnesia right now

is confusing to me. - No, excuse me.

Don't ever say I'm pretending 'cause I'm not pretending.

I'm telling you the truth. I don't remember saying that.

Don't ever say that to me again.

Don't (BLEEP) with me like that.

- I did not realize that comment would've

upset you to that point. I apologize.

- Well, you're basically calling me a liar.

I simply don't remember.

And I'm tired of being nice to you.

- [crying] I'm out of here.

Leave me alone. - Teddi. Teddi.

- Hey, Dorit, just leave that alone.

- Teddi is in a pool of sharks, and she's like a baby dolphin.

- It's not appropriate

to talk to another grown person the way that she does,

- I'm not apologizing for it. Don't ask for it.

'Cause you're not gonna get it.

Miss Crybaby.

- You scare her. - And it's honestly...

- You scare the living sh... Out of her.

- Obviously, I don't wanna scare you, sweetheart.

I don't wanna be that person. - I mean, I think I just...

- That does not make me feel good.

I can't shut that temper off.

You know, that's something I'd like to change,

I'd like to work on,

but I am adult enough to know that I'm an asshole.

And you know what? I don't need to talk about it

again with you. - Okay.

- We're good, okay? - Good.

- Valerie from Greenwich, Connecticut, said,

"I wanna know if Teddi was calling Erika a liar

"when she accused her of having pretend amnesia,

or if she just said the wrong words."

- Truthfully, it was flippant comment that you see when...

The second that you kinda snap at me, I immediately go,

"Oh, my gosh, I'm sorry."

- Yes, but why would you even challenge my integrity

like that instead of saying, "Erika, you know what?"

"Well, I don't understand, you have pretend amnesia."

- Because I was frustrated and because

I'm already having a conversation with her.

- Where did you get pretend amnesia?

- Yeah, where does that come from?

Why would you do that? - It just popped out.

I don't know. I really don't.

- But that's a stretch.

I've never called into question your character.

You react very strongly to me. She called you a psycho.

She hammered you for 12 weeks.

And I say, you know, I don't...

- I didn't hammer her for 12 weeks.

- You kinda let her have it. Yeah, you did.

- She was actually letting me have it.

- You guys were back and forth. - Yeah. Exactly.

- It was a trade.

- It wasn't me hammering her for 12 weeks.

- Well, you're good at it.

My point is that you guys had it out,

but if I say something, if I get strong...

When I feel my integrity is attacked with pretend amnesia,

what would cause you to say that?

- I think she was looking for backup, like,

she was trying to make a point in that moment.

- No, but you have to be willing to take responsibility

for whatever you say... - Which I did.

- And how people react to it. - I said "sorry."

- She apologized right then, right?

- I apologized in the moment. - Yes, but you know what?

- But, but, but, but? - Hey... exactly.

So what? You called me a liar.

What did you think I was gonna do, brush it off?

- But you, looking back now,

don't you think it was too aggressive?

- No, that is... Lisa, that is who I am.

Have I ever made you feel crazy?

No. - No.

- Right. - Have I ever made you feel

like you were scared of me? No.

Someone may say something to you that absolutely

strikes at your core, and you will defend yourself...

- Yeah, but I do think you overreacted.

- Well, that's your opinion.

- The way you've always talked to me

is like you're talking down to me.

- I think that that's really how you see it...

- No. - And not who I am.

This is where the problem is.

Your interpretation of what I say and how I say

strikes you in a very deep, personal way.

- What's personal about it is I've never been spoken to

the way that you speak to me, and it bothers me.

- Well, that has a lot to do with you and not with me,

because I feel like you harbor some huge,

like, resentment or something toward me,

and it's obvious, babe. You even say,

"I don't know why I react to this woman this way."

- Because maybe in your world, people talk to you that way.

People don't talk to me... - In the world.

I find it very hard to believe.

You're a very sophisticated woman.

You're well-traveled. You come from, you know...

- You think sophistication people

scream and snap at each other?

- I've not screamed at you. I haven't raised my voice.

- People speak to you and say...

[growling] "Don't you call me a liar.

Don't you ever do that. Don't you call me..."

- You know what? Because, you know what...

- I'm adult, Erika. I respect you.

- Then why are you calling another adult woman a liar?

- You saw that I was in a conversation with Dorit.

You did not need to get involved.

And I feel like there's a lot of times where people

are trying to put words in my mouth for me because

sometimes I'll be quiet.

For me, it was mainly...

- I think you speak very clearly and I think

that you are much stronger than you let on.

And I think that you are

much more calculating than you're saying.

You are not this innocent fawn in the woods.

- I don't say I'm an innocent fawn of the woods.

That's what you guys treat me like.

- No. - Yes.

- No, that's how you see yourself in this group.

You think you're a fawn amongst sharks.

- Well, and here I am trying to voice my opinion.

- Well, Teddi, raise up or get the (BLEEP) out, come on, girl.

[tense music]

♪ ♪

- Coming up...

- You need to listen.

If you had spoken to me

the way you spoke to Teddi,

I would be really upset too.

- You are not this innocent

- You are not this innocent fawn in the woods.

- I don't say I'm an innocent fawn of the woods.

That's what you guys treat me like.

- No. - Yes.

- No, that's how you see yourself in this group.

You think you're a fawn amongst sharks.

- Well, and here I am trying to voice my opinion.

- Well, Teddi, raise up, or get the (BLEEP) out.

Come on, girl.

- What am I doing right now? I'm defending myself.

- No, you're not defending yourself.

- I am. - I'm defending myself.

- Come on, Erika, that's not...

- No, you don't... You're misunderstanding.

- That's not... I don't like that at all.

[both talking at once]

- That is not empowering somebody.

That is talking down to somebody.

That is what it is. - I'm telling you right now.

You know that you belong in this group.

- Why does she have to raise up to you

just because you're being aggressive to her?

- I don't need to rise up

to say something I'm going to regret.

- Erika, you need to listen. You really need to listen.

If you had spoken to me the way you spoke to Teddi,

I would be really upset too.

- Why? She belongs here.

- No, it's not about belonging. - It doesn't matter.

You just don't talk to people that way.

- It's just too aggressive. - It's not aggressive.

- It was aggressive. - No.

- Can I just say one thing?

Last year, when I did not remember something,

and you came in front of a group

and basically ambushed me.

- Did you or did you not

say that my sister is close to death?

And that she is not 100% sober, and that I'm enabler?

[tense pop music]

- I do not ever remember saying that.

You could've taken me alone and said,

"Lisa, you know, I've heard this.

What's the deal?"

You did it in front of everybody.

It was totally traumatic. - Yeah.

Well, but you did say those things,

so it was justified. - Yeah, well, I did.

But I didn't remember.

And I think anyone in this group...

- Well, that's debatable. - What?

- Whether you remember that or not.

You may not remember those exact words,

but you remember the sentiment of feeling that way.

- Well I didn't... I didn't mean it that way.

[all speaking at once]

- The question is, is Teddi being too sensitive,

or is Erika being too harsh? What do you think?

- I think that... I can see where Teddi's feelings would be hurt.

And it's hard coming into this group and,

you know, I don't see it as who's insecure or has issues.

It's very hard, and you wanna feel welcome.

And I think in those... they had a bad history because of Vegas

and those comments made her feel like

she wasn't being treated as an equal.

- Shamika from Scarsdale, New York, said,

"Erika, you're kinda a diva.

"I think you didn't wanna stay at Teddi's beach house

"without your glam squad.

Were they waiting for you at the hotel?"

- No, they were not. - She stayed at a DoubleTree.

- I went to the DoubleTree, so I could,

you know, clean up and go to sleep.

And that's the truth. There was no...

- But your assistant was already there.

- My assistant is not my glam squad.

- You said it several times during the course...

- Yes. (BLEEP), yes. - It's on camera.

- You said, "I'm not feeling well."

- You know what? I'm feeling like my uterus

is being pulled through my stomach.

- Oh, God. - When you've got a bad period,

it's the worst. It's the worst.

The worst.

- Oh, yeah.

- I'm having the worst period of my entire life.

- No. - I feel like I'm dying.

- By the way, we both didn't know that.

- We didn't know you weren't feeling well,

and also, if it's embarrassing about your period,

then why did you talk about it to them?

- Who gives a sh... That Erika left?

I still don't understand. - No, but the point was

is that it wasn't a last-minute decision.

It was something planned, your assistant...

But why was your assistant at the hotel?

- This isn't personal, and I feel like you're...

There's no glam squad, there's nothing there.

I went to the ...ing DoubleTree...

- [chuckles] - At 12:30, took a shower,

went to sleep, and came back for more.

- A lot of viewers pinged on you kind of

pushing her away when she tried to give you a hug.

- Yeah, absolutely, because you know what?

It's embarrassing to have to talk about your feminine issues

on television. - But you'd already talked

about it to Lisa Vanderpump and Dorit, apparently.

- To have to, like, convince you to have to be bullied

instead of saying, "Hey, I heard you..."

- I bullied you?

I had no idea you were not feeling well.

- Well, now you do, and how do you feel about it?

You don't care.

It does not feel good to come back in and to feel like,

hey, I didn't know you weren't feeling good.

I understand why you left. I get it.

You wanted some privacy.

- Why did you recoil when she went to...

- Because it's embarrassing. It's embarrassing to have to

explain yourself to other women

and to have to have it play out.

If it were just dead and been like, "Yeah, listen, you guys,

"I wasn't feeling good. I just went up the street

and came back. I'm here, let's go."

- No, hold on a second.

I think there's more to it than that.

I think that when you're vulnerable,

you don't wanna draw attention to it.

- No, not at all.

- And that's not a... Because I saw it in Hong Kong.

- You okay?

- Yes, I'm fine.

- You don't have to be fine, you know, all the time.

- I don't wanna have this conversation.

- And that's not a negative, but I think you're just like,

nope, I'm a strong woman and you're not gonna see me break.

- I didn't wanna have any of it.

- Victoria from Cleveland has a psychological diagnosis...

- Oh, let's go, Victoria.

- She said, "We've seen Erika snap at Eileen and now Teddi.

I'm not a psychologist..." - Oh, that's good.

- "But this kind of behavior makes me believe

Erika is suffering from PTSD."

- Oh, God.

- Post-traumatic stress disorder?

- Yeah. - I would wonder what from.

[laughs] - I don't know.

- At least you're not schizophrenic.

- Could you give her some pills?

- Yeah, sure.

Why does she trigger you? - My point is...

My point is, it's intentional.

She knows exactly what she's doing.

- Do you really think that? - Yes.

I think that. I see how she talks.

- What'd Teddi say? - She thinks it's intentional.

I said, what triggers you? Why does Erika trigger you?

She said, "I think it's intentional."

- And I think what you do is intentional.

- Erika, Teddi wrote a blog about this

which you retweeted and described as "pure comedy."

- Yes. - So I'm assuming

you don't agree with...

- I don't agree that I do not look at myself

in the mirror or that I'm not truthful with myself.

I don't think you should, you know...

I didn't like being called Regina Jayne.

I've, you know, "Mean Girls" and stuff like that.

And not just that one.

They've been before... They are been subsequent

that you really had a go at me in your blogs,

week after week after week.

- And cathartically, I need to. In the moment, I'm sorry...

- So how does that make me feel?

So if we're gonna level it out, is that fair?

- Yes.

I'm sorry, but I agree with Erika here.

- Going on social media to then tweet, retweet,

like things that say "Fire Teddi" bother me.

Especially when you say, "You belong here, Teddi."

It sounds phony. - Oh, no, I'm not phony.

No, no, no, no, no. Again, I'm being called a liar.

- I am not! I'm saying...

- No, you're being called phony.

- Phony... well, same thing. - No, I'm saying

it sounds phony to me because you're liking somebody say,

"Fire Teddi." - No, it was calling you

a sh... stirrer, which I did believe you were sh... stirring.

- The tweet says, "Fire Teddi." - It does say "Fire Teddi."

You're absolutely right it does, and I liked it.

And what did I... And why did I do that?

Because your blog was absolutely scathing.

It was absolute saying that, you know,

I have no character, I lack...

I can't have any real friendships.

You don't know what kind of friendships I have in my life.

You don't know anything about me, really.

- It was hard. - It was very hard.

- It was hard. - It was hard.

And I was hurt. - Well, guess what.

- That's where it's stemming from.

- There it is. - You're hurt, both of you.

- These women have known each other for a very long time

and been doing this a very long time,

and they never made me feel

the way that you consistently treated me.

And that is the truth, and I'm sorry...

- Teddi, that is really more about you than it is me.

- I'm not pretending I'm free of fault.

I am telling you how you make me feel.

- Then we're all the same. - Then treat me the same.

- I do treat you the same. I'm rude to everybody.

There you go. Join the... ing club.

[laughter]

- In Berlin, Dorit told Erika

that she scares the sh... out of Teddi.

Does she scare the sh... out of you?

- It's not scare.

I don't like the uncertainty of being around Erika.

I never know what I'm going to get.

Am I gonna get a lashing right now,

or am I gonna get an empowerment speech?

- It's not a lashing. - You told me point blank

"She scares the sh... out of me."

- When? I said she makes me

very uncomfortable and she hurts my feelings.

- You said, "She scares the sh... out of me, Dorit."

- In that latex, you scare the sh... out of me, just saying.

- You know what? It's very hard coming in

to a group like this new, and like, you know,

you're not feeling welcome.

- Erika, you describe yourself as an asshole.

- Oh, well, I was being totally rude there.

- And you don't like that about yourself,

which is... which is a big admission for you to say.

- Sure.

- So is that something that you wanna work on?

Is that something that you wanna change about yourself?

- Well, I think... - If you're saying that

you're an asshole... - If you're saying it,

then maybe it was asshole behavior.

- How about this? I think that

in certain audiences, they have to be...

My responses have to be tailored.

And in certain audi... You know, in some places,

that wouldn't be asshole behavior.

But in others, it's very, like,

you know, pull back. - I can't tell if you're taking

any ownership over your behavior.

- What are you talking about?

I take total ownership over my behavior.

- Well, you're saying it's her problem.

- No, I said it's more... No, it's mine too.

I understand... I said I was heavy-handed in my response.

But a lot of this, like,

this whole season thing that she's saying...

I really feel is more her than me.

- And so where do you go now?

- Really, I go... If her and I can have

nice, normal conversations... And I'm not saying we kiss

each other's asses... But can actually have

a mutual respect for one another,

I will go off whatever she gives me.

- Coming up next...

- Dorit has been largely misunderstood,

and she's definitely made some mistakes,

but I think the audience should really give her another chance.

- Back for our final moments

- Back for our final moments of season eight of

"The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills" reunion.

Teddi, I always ask each new housewife

about their experience.

Is this what you expected when you signed up?

- I really had no expectations,

so there were hard times and there were good times,

and I'm leaving more educated than I came in.

- Rinna, you think the old Rinna will rise from the ashes,

or is Yoda here to stay?

- What do you all think? - Yeah, it's coming back.

[laughter]

- She's coming back. - Properly motivated, yeah.

- [laughs]

- She could only keep that up for so long.

- Oh, now, now, now.

- Dorit, um... gosh, man.

You had such a season. - I know.

- You found yourself in hot water more than once.

- Yeah. - You were accused a lot

of talking too much. - Yeah.

- Anything you would change about how you

handled situations with your friends,

or any regrets?

- Yeah, for sure.

I mean, I've watched things back,

and I wish that I had acted differently

or handled it differently.

I think there are some apologies

that I didn't make that I needed to.

I think accepting some apologies... I needed to,

and I didn't in that moment,

and you learn a lot about yourself.

- So, Dorit, where do you and Teddi go from here?

- I think that we've got a little bit more work to do.

For sure. - Fair.

- Yeah. - Yeah.

- Erika, what will you be saying yes to next?

- Oh, my God, so many good things coming through.

- Yeah? - Yeah, it's great.

Looks good. The future's good.

- Where do you think you and Teddi go from here?

- I had a great day, despite raising my voice.

I was very direct with you, and I think that it now

we have opened this entire season and put that to bed.

When I see you again,

we'll know where to go. - I agree 100%.

- Yeah. - I feel like the way

we were able to communicate today was different,

and I feel good, and I feel...

- You feel heard. And you are heard here.

- I do. - I hear you.

- So thank you. - You're very welcome.

But we had to have it out, baby.

- Yeah. I know. - [laughs]

We had to have it out. - This felt like the right way.

- Thank you. I appreciate that.

- Kyle, you've said you want

a better relationship with your sisters.

Does that extend to your friends here?

- Of course, I always expect a lot from my friends,

you know, I love them a lot. I love big,

and I expect a lot back.

- Where do you go from here with Dorit?

- I think that we'll be fine, honestly.

I think we'll have to sit down and talk and probably end up,

you know, saying how we were both hurt a little bit,

and we'll end up laughing and it'll be fine.

You know, there's nothing that's irreparable here at all.

- Vanderpump, Lisa Rinna has not so subtlety told us

that you've changed in eight years.

How do you think you've grown?

- Oh, wow.

This has been an extraordinary experience

in terms of how I've been challenged

just, you know, in the public arena.

But I've also had incredible kind of benefits.

I think Kyle has taught me

to be more open and more kind of

honest with my feelings and not so guarded and not so British.

I look at Kyle especially

like the sister that I didn't have.

And maybe that's why we're kind of a little combative.

- I love you. - I love you too.

I've enjoyed meeting Teddi. I've had a great time

with Teddi, but obviously it's been a bit difficult, you know,

being a good friend of Dorit, 'cause I really do feel that

Dorit has been largely misunderstood.

And she's definitely made some mistakes,

and especially when it comes to our relationship,

but I think the audience should really give her another chance,

you know, because she's got a really good heart.

She's a really kind, supportive friend.

- In honor of the season, I wanna make a toast.

Let's bring out the champagne straight from Germany.

- Oh, my God. - Oh.

- Whoa. - Where's the lederhosen?

- Now, Dorit, you have your choice

between champagne and the beer stein,

or the champagne glass. - What do you think

I'm gonna choose? - There you go.

- If it's on offer, I'll take this.

Both: It's champagne.

- The joke just doesn't get old.

- Well, there you go.

- It never gets old, Dorit. We're gonna beat this to death.

- I know. - Cheers.

Should we stand up? - Yes, everybody.

- [groans] If we still can.

- [laughs]

- Who wants to lead the toast?

- Oh. - Rinna.

- Okay, to... - Oh, yes.

- I know. Well...

[all talking at once]

- To getting to know each other better,

to supporting one another, and working through our issues.

I love you all. - Wow, okay, there we go.

[glasses clinking] - Cheers.

- I don't wanna break yours, Dorit.

- I love you. I love you all.

- Where's my pretzel, damn it?

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