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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:41,558 --> 00:00:44,147 [NARRATOR READING] 2 00:00:54,502 --> 00:00:56,435 From the essay,"Circles" 3 00:00:56,470 --> 00:00:59,611 by American philosopher Ralph Waldo Emerson. 4 00:01:07,170 --> 00:01:10,277 RICHARD DOLAN: The more that we actually learn about the world we're in, 5 00:01:10,311 --> 00:01:13,142 the greater, not the less, the greater the mysteries. 6 00:01:13,176 --> 00:01:16,766 We're like in a circle, and everything that you know is inside that circle, 7 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:19,562 and the boundary of the circle is the boundary of the unknown. 8 00:01:19,596 --> 00:01:21,667 And the more you learn, the larger that circle gets. 9 00:01:21,702 --> 00:01:24,843 Guess what, so too the larger the boundary of the unknown. 10 00:01:24,877 --> 00:01:27,811 The more you learn, the more conscience you are, 11 00:01:27,846 --> 00:01:29,606 the greater the mystery has become. 12 00:01:29,641 --> 00:01:32,126 The more you are actually are aware of not knowing. 13 00:01:32,161 --> 00:01:33,817 MARC D'ANTONIO: Civilization's elsewhere, 14 00:01:33,852 --> 00:01:35,716 burgeoning on planets that are young perhaps, 15 00:01:35,750 --> 00:01:38,857 that have been around for just a few billion years like the Earth. 16 00:01:38,891 --> 00:01:40,893 The Earth is actually quite young, in a sense. 17 00:01:40,928 --> 00:01:42,654 It's been here 4.6 billion years, 18 00:01:42,688 --> 00:01:45,105 but the universe is 13.8 billion years old. 19 00:01:45,139 --> 00:01:47,728 Nine billion years happened before the Earth 20 00:01:47,762 --> 00:01:49,868 was even formed, and before the sun was even made. 21 00:01:49,902 --> 00:01:53,596 We see a sliding window of planetary formation. 22 00:01:54,493 --> 00:01:56,081 Planets that are just forming now, 23 00:01:56,116 --> 00:01:57,979 planets in maturity like our Earth, 24 00:01:58,014 --> 00:02:01,086 and planets that have survived the death of their star. 25 00:02:01,121 --> 00:02:04,538 That tells everyone that this has been going on 26 00:02:04,572 --> 00:02:07,092 for billions of years, and continues to go on. 27 00:02:07,127 --> 00:02:10,647 So, I expect that there's gonna be civilizations at all levels out there. 28 00:02:10,682 --> 00:02:12,718 I know our science is not nearly 29 00:02:12,753 --> 00:02:14,927 the science of say, an extraterritorial civilization 30 00:02:14,962 --> 00:02:17,033 that's been here for nine billions years. 31 00:02:17,067 --> 00:02:18,483 It won't be. 32 00:02:18,517 --> 00:02:21,624 But our science has made some progress, 33 00:02:21,658 --> 00:02:24,868 and we can see residual effects within our... 34 00:02:25,490 --> 00:02:27,699 scientific purview... 35 00:02:27,733 --> 00:02:30,564 of another advanced science that's affecting it, 36 00:02:30,598 --> 00:02:32,082 and that's what we're looking for. 37 00:02:32,117 --> 00:02:34,292 We looking for something that's kinda 38 00:02:34,326 --> 00:02:37,467 adding this noise into our universe that we can detect 39 00:02:37,502 --> 00:02:40,884 and that's where all this happens. This is where all this comes from. 40 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:43,370 There definitely enough corroborative information out there 41 00:02:43,404 --> 00:02:45,026 to justify more research 42 00:02:45,061 --> 00:02:47,822 into this story with a Harvard study, 43 00:02:47,857 --> 00:02:50,687 not too long ago that made a lot of news. 44 00:02:50,722 --> 00:02:54,795 Where they said Sleep Paralysis was the answer for this phenomenon. 45 00:02:54,829 --> 00:02:59,455 What's interesting, I felt, was the amount of attention that story got. 46 00:02:59,489 --> 00:03:00,801 And it got a lot. 47 00:03:00,835 --> 00:03:03,252 Which indicates there are a lot of people interested 48 00:03:03,286 --> 00:03:06,910 in the mechanisms of this phenomenon, why this happens. 49 00:03:06,945 --> 00:03:10,224 We acknowledge the UFO problem as a real phenomenon. 50 00:03:10,259 --> 00:03:13,158 There's something going on, so we have to ask ourselves who's behind it. 51 00:03:13,193 --> 00:03:14,366 Is it the Russians? No. 52 00:03:14,401 --> 00:03:18,025 Is it the American Secret Societies? Not entirely. 53 00:03:18,059 --> 00:03:20,924 There's a component of otherness to this. 54 00:03:20,959 --> 00:03:25,412 And when you get story after story of these abductions, 55 00:03:25,446 --> 00:03:29,312 I don't think it's that impossible to believe, to be honest with you. 56 00:03:29,347 --> 00:03:31,970 We often demonize experts 57 00:03:32,004 --> 00:03:36,112 because they aren't kind of going where we want them to go. 58 00:03:36,146 --> 00:03:38,701 That can happen, and I think that's dangerous. 59 00:03:38,735 --> 00:03:42,394 It pushes them away, and it makes it "Us vs. Them" 60 00:03:42,429 --> 00:03:45,708 And there's certainly room where we can all go together. 61 00:03:45,742 --> 00:03:48,124 Because it's not important whether 62 00:03:48,158 --> 00:03:50,989 there's something happening at the quantum level, 63 00:03:51,023 --> 00:03:54,303 or whether DNA is being manipulated. 64 00:03:54,337 --> 00:03:58,376 What's important is that the issue is addressed seriously, 65 00:03:58,410 --> 00:04:03,139 and we all walk down the road of trying to discover what's going on together. 66 00:04:03,173 --> 00:04:06,832 Really hope to inspire the next generation 67 00:04:06,867 --> 00:04:10,802 to be curious, to want to explore, 68 00:04:10,836 --> 00:04:14,392 but mostly to look for the answers for themselves. 69 00:04:14,426 --> 00:04:16,601 To not always just accept what they're told. 70 00:04:16,635 --> 00:04:20,743 To get out there and put boots on the ground, and explore life, 71 00:04:20,777 --> 00:04:23,297 and ask the big questions, and then go after the answers. 72 00:04:23,332 --> 00:04:26,438 When you open yourself to more, you always get more. 73 00:04:26,473 --> 00:04:29,199 If you close yourself off to this creed and doctrine, 74 00:04:29,234 --> 00:04:31,236 and this is the way it is, and I gotta do this, 75 00:04:31,271 --> 00:04:32,789 then you know you're not gonna grow. 76 00:04:32,824 --> 00:04:36,621 There is so much more to know than we know. 77 00:04:36,655 --> 00:04:38,450 I don't care who you are, 78 00:04:38,485 --> 00:04:42,143 and I wanna know everything. I don't care what it was. 79 00:04:42,178 --> 00:04:47,010 If I think that aliens are one thing, 80 00:04:47,045 --> 00:04:49,737 and they turn out to be totally different than that, 81 00:04:49,772 --> 00:04:52,361 that's fine. I just wanna know the truth. 82 00:04:52,395 --> 00:04:54,190 No matter what it takes. 83 00:04:54,224 --> 00:04:59,022 I would say millions of people around the world. 84 00:04:59,057 --> 00:05:02,854 The Roper Poll did a couple of surveys several years ago, 85 00:05:02,888 --> 00:05:06,202 and they came out with 1 in 50 American adults, 86 00:05:06,236 --> 00:05:08,342 that's just the United States, 87 00:05:08,377 --> 00:05:11,172 that had experiences that could point to abduction. 88 00:05:11,207 --> 00:05:14,314 We're just talking 1 in 50 in the United States. 89 00:05:14,348 --> 00:05:18,904 A tremendous number of people in the world, 90 00:05:18,939 --> 00:05:21,390 not only in the United States, 91 00:05:21,424 --> 00:05:27,672 who are having these visits from extraterrestrial beings. 92 00:05:27,706 --> 00:05:31,745 I've also concluded that there are many 93 00:05:31,779 --> 00:05:35,369 different types of extraterrestrial beings 94 00:05:35,404 --> 00:05:41,651 who are coming here to Earth and interacting with certain human beings. 95 00:05:41,686 --> 00:05:43,722 It's a strange kind of scenario, right, 96 00:05:43,757 --> 00:05:47,070 but there's been a number of these that have comes out through 97 00:05:47,105 --> 00:05:50,626 researchers that have been dedicated to unpacking this. 98 00:05:50,660 --> 00:05:52,904 So, I think that there's something happening here. 99 00:05:52,938 --> 00:05:56,321 Some of these cases are believable. 100 00:05:56,356 --> 00:05:59,393 As incredible as they seem, the individuals, 101 00:05:59,428 --> 00:06:02,051 I guess I would say seem believable. 102 00:06:02,085 --> 00:06:06,296 When you hear these stories from the most credible people 103 00:06:06,331 --> 00:06:09,852 that aren't asking for anything, they just wanna tell you. 104 00:06:09,886 --> 00:06:14,028 In today's world, it's extremely brave for someone 105 00:06:14,063 --> 00:06:17,135 to make their story public in this arena. 106 00:06:17,169 --> 00:06:20,552 Obviously this has caused an issue in their life, 107 00:06:20,587 --> 00:06:26,869 and this taboo means that there's a lot of people going untreated 108 00:06:26,903 --> 00:06:29,423 for something that's affecting their well-being. 109 00:06:29,458 --> 00:06:33,703 And that's just wrong, because of this ridiculous 110 00:06:33,738 --> 00:06:38,328 irrational taboo we have around the thought of aliens. 111 00:06:43,195 --> 00:06:46,854 [OPENING THEME MUSIC PLAYING] 112 00:07:45,119 --> 00:07:48,502 [MUSIC INTENSIFIES] 113 00:08:15,909 --> 00:08:19,499 [MELLOW MUSIC PLAYING] 114 00:08:26,816 --> 00:08:30,233 [MUSIC INTENSIFIES] 115 00:09:06,476 --> 00:09:09,134 NARRATOR: This film is not for everyone. 116 00:09:09,169 --> 00:09:11,965 If you believe abduction stories are hoaxes, 117 00:09:11,999 --> 00:09:13,587 and those telling them are liars, 118 00:09:13,622 --> 00:09:15,693 it's definitely not for you. 119 00:09:15,727 --> 00:09:19,420 But if you're open to the idea that we're not alone in the universe, 120 00:09:19,455 --> 00:09:23,597 that alien hybridization programs are indeed a possibility, 121 00:09:23,632 --> 00:09:28,084 that people just like you are used for reproductive experiments 122 00:09:28,119 --> 00:09:29,569 against their will, 123 00:09:29,603 --> 00:09:33,503 then you'll be intrigued by what April, Rob, Geraldine, 124 00:09:33,538 --> 00:09:36,679 and several others experiencers have to share. 125 00:09:36,714 --> 00:09:38,129 These are their stories. 126 00:09:38,163 --> 00:09:39,924 Listen intently, 127 00:09:39,958 --> 00:09:43,548 and try to imagine how you might react if you were in their shoes. 128 00:09:55,284 --> 00:09:57,527 This is back in the '90s. 129 00:09:57,562 --> 00:10:01,462 I can remember waking up at 3:00 a.m., going outside my bed 130 00:10:01,497 --> 00:10:05,950 in through a field, across from the countryside, 131 00:10:05,984 --> 00:10:08,538 and just start looking up at the sky. 132 00:10:08,573 --> 00:10:12,025 And a piece of me was wondering "Where is that light? 133 00:10:12,059 --> 00:10:13,647 "Where did that thing go?" 134 00:10:13,682 --> 00:10:19,170 Spent many nights wondering, "What did I see? What was that?" 135 00:10:19,204 --> 00:10:22,760 I remember my mom was compelled to talk about it. 136 00:10:22,794 --> 00:10:24,554 Urged me, 137 00:10:24,589 --> 00:10:27,592 "You wanna draw a picture of it? Do you wanna draw colors of it?" 138 00:10:27,627 --> 00:10:32,701 The disc shape with all the different orange, green, red... 139 00:10:32,735 --> 00:10:36,912 I'd draw 'em really brightly, and sometimes I'd draw like... 140 00:10:36,946 --> 00:10:38,845 like a light shining down onto the house. 141 00:10:40,709 --> 00:10:44,091 My family and I watch the fireworks with my wife, and I see a little 142 00:10:44,126 --> 00:10:47,439 satellite up in the sky, like that. 143 00:10:47,474 --> 00:10:50,132 I remember just telling everybody, "Hey, guys, look. A satellite." 144 00:10:50,166 --> 00:10:51,789 Oh, yeah... Fireworks. 145 00:10:52,893 --> 00:10:56,483 So, nothing. I think nothing of it. 146 00:10:56,517 --> 00:10:59,072 Later that night, about 2:00 in the morning, 147 00:10:59,106 --> 00:11:00,694 I see the satellite again, 148 00:11:00,729 --> 00:11:02,696 but it's coming out from a different angle. 149 00:11:02,731 --> 00:11:06,493 The next thing I know, that satellite is just over the neighbor's house. 150 00:11:06,527 --> 00:11:09,945 Typical glowing disc shaped object, 151 00:11:09,979 --> 00:11:13,707 and as we're walking like this, this ship is also going with us. 152 00:11:13,742 --> 00:11:16,123 Right? Then we would stop, and it would stop. 153 00:11:16,158 --> 00:11:18,678 We'd look away, and the ship would light up, 154 00:11:18,712 --> 00:11:20,369 and we'd look at it, and it'll turn off. 155 00:11:20,403 --> 00:11:23,199 For about ten minutes, it was doing that with us, 156 00:11:23,234 --> 00:11:24,545 and the next thing, it's just... 157 00:11:24,580 --> 00:11:27,341 Boom! It's gone. It's the satellite again. 158 00:11:27,376 --> 00:11:29,516 And at that moment, I was like 159 00:11:30,103 --> 00:11:32,001 this shit's real. 160 00:11:32,036 --> 00:11:36,868 Three years ago, I wouldn't even imagine that I would be doing what I'm doing today. 161 00:11:36,903 --> 00:11:37,938 Not even a little bit. 162 00:11:37,973 --> 00:11:40,216 When I was abducted in 2013, 163 00:11:40,251 --> 00:11:41,839 I didn't wanna tell anyone about that. 164 00:11:41,873 --> 00:11:45,118 There was no way I would tell my extended family about it, 165 00:11:45,152 --> 00:11:49,191 and I had to think ten times before telling my family about it. 166 00:11:49,225 --> 00:11:53,160 Three months after my abduction, I met my partner that I was with, at that time. 167 00:11:53,195 --> 00:11:56,992 I was busy with my career, and he wanted to a have a family. 168 00:11:57,026 --> 00:12:01,824 The more I started to have other experiences, too, of abduction, 169 00:12:01,859 --> 00:12:06,104 I couldn't talk to him about it, and then when we moved in together 170 00:12:06,139 --> 00:12:11,385 at night time, things that would happen to me, and he couldn't handle it. 171 00:12:11,420 --> 00:12:16,080 I started having the strange experiences in childhood. 172 00:12:16,114 --> 00:12:19,497 Being part of adolescence, I was pretty much engaged in 173 00:12:19,531 --> 00:12:21,499 what that brings into one's life. 174 00:12:21,533 --> 00:12:23,294 I had an experience at four, 175 00:12:23,328 --> 00:12:25,814 had an experience at fourteen and a half. 176 00:12:25,848 --> 00:12:28,609 Then 17, 18, 19, 177 00:12:28,644 --> 00:12:31,716 and when I was 27, I started to have sightings in broad daylight. 178 00:12:31,751 --> 00:12:35,996 With neighbors, witnesses, co-workers, family, friends, colleagues. 179 00:12:36,031 --> 00:12:41,795 The memories of being taken on the ship, being on the table, 180 00:12:41,830 --> 00:12:46,973 and then having them distract me with some kind of other memory, 181 00:12:47,007 --> 00:12:49,458 or some kind of screen image, 182 00:12:49,492 --> 00:12:52,633 that's what I remember from the hypnosis sessions. 183 00:12:52,668 --> 00:12:55,222 And they did it, time, after time, after time. 184 00:12:55,257 --> 00:12:59,537 When I was seven, my mom had a nervous breakdown. 185 00:12:59,571 --> 00:13:01,401 That's what they called it back then. 186 00:13:02,333 --> 00:13:05,750 Manic depression, call it what you will. 187 00:13:05,785 --> 00:13:08,511 But there was something always about it that was 188 00:13:09,271 --> 00:13:11,376 not bio-chemical. 189 00:13:11,411 --> 00:13:12,964 And I knew that. 190 00:13:12,999 --> 00:13:16,036 Her mom had an issue, 191 00:13:16,071 --> 00:13:18,176 her grandmother had an issue. 192 00:13:18,211 --> 00:13:20,454 It seemed to be cyclic. 193 00:13:20,489 --> 00:13:25,943 I wish I could say I knew what triggered it, I have suspicions. 194 00:13:25,977 --> 00:13:31,293 But it never left me that there were aspects of her mania that, um, 195 00:13:31,914 --> 00:13:33,778 panned out to be true. 196 00:13:33,813 --> 00:13:37,920 Things that she said that she knew that were true. 197 00:13:37,955 --> 00:13:41,234 As a kid, I'm sure it had a major effect on me, 198 00:13:41,268 --> 00:13:45,410 but at the same time, I was still very much wanting to go outside 199 00:13:45,445 --> 00:13:48,620 and play, and do the things that normal kids do. 200 00:13:48,655 --> 00:13:51,520 [DISTORTED VOICE] I was up late, everybody else had gone to bed, 201 00:13:51,554 --> 00:13:54,385 and I was sitting in a La-Z-Boy chair. 202 00:13:55,075 --> 00:13:58,838 And I noticed to my right, 203 00:13:58,872 --> 00:14:03,704 peeking around the corner at me from the dining room into the living room, 204 00:14:03,739 --> 00:14:08,744 was what you would see as a typical gray alien. 205 00:14:08,778 --> 00:14:10,884 Like you would see on TV or something. 206 00:14:10,919 --> 00:14:12,679 It was peeking around the corner at me, 207 00:14:12,713 --> 00:14:15,889 and the way he did his neck was so strange. 208 00:14:15,924 --> 00:14:17,995 The way he held his neck. 209 00:14:18,443 --> 00:14:21,584 I was petrified. 210 00:14:21,619 --> 00:14:23,828 I normally would pray, when something... 211 00:14:23,863 --> 00:14:26,969 I couldn't even think... I couldn't... It was just... 212 00:14:27,004 --> 00:14:30,145 My brain did not know where to put that. 213 00:14:30,179 --> 00:14:31,871 Even when I went to first go tell my husband 214 00:14:31,905 --> 00:14:34,356 what I had seen, that very first time 215 00:14:34,390 --> 00:14:35,978 I didn't have proof of that. 216 00:14:37,014 --> 00:14:38,567 But I knew, 217 00:14:38,601 --> 00:14:40,327 I knew what I had seen. 218 00:14:40,362 --> 00:14:42,364 I know what's happened to me. 219 00:14:43,158 --> 00:14:44,814 But I can't prove any of it. 220 00:14:44,849 --> 00:14:48,577 I went in my room to go to bed. I was an office manager at the time. 221 00:14:48,611 --> 00:14:50,682 I had a project due the next day. 222 00:14:50,717 --> 00:14:53,582 I sat my alarm next to me. Sat on my bed, 223 00:14:53,616 --> 00:14:55,860 and I thought, if I fall asleep right now, 224 00:14:55,895 --> 00:14:57,793 I may get six and half hours of sleep. 225 00:14:57,827 --> 00:15:01,693 I did a quick little, like, close my eyes meditation process sitting on my bed. 226 00:15:01,728 --> 00:15:03,903 Just a real quick visualization process. 227 00:15:03,937 --> 00:15:07,354 Calm myself down, deep breathing, so I could get to sleep right away. 228 00:15:07,389 --> 00:15:09,391 I turned to turn off the light, 229 00:15:10,392 --> 00:15:12,256 I look back at the clock, I just set the alarm, 230 00:15:12,290 --> 00:15:15,052 'cause I wanna make sure I didn't forget to set it. It was obviously set. 231 00:15:15,086 --> 00:15:17,261 I go to turn off the light, I look back at the clock, 232 00:15:17,295 --> 00:15:19,642 just again, double-checking the alarm. 233 00:15:19,677 --> 00:15:22,404 It was like two and half to three hours later. 234 00:15:22,438 --> 00:15:24,785 And I was like, "Okay, what just happened?" 235 00:15:24,820 --> 00:15:27,478 And I couldn't get an image outta my head 236 00:15:27,512 --> 00:15:30,377 of three gray aliens standing next to the bed. 237 00:15:30,412 --> 00:15:33,449 I was living in Manitou Springs, and I was 238 00:15:33,484 --> 00:15:35,244 dating a woman named Gena. 239 00:15:35,279 --> 00:15:37,626 We had a two bedroom apartment, 240 00:15:37,660 --> 00:15:39,145 ground floor apartment. 241 00:15:39,179 --> 00:15:41,457 It was late, we had gone to bed, 242 00:15:41,492 --> 00:15:45,151 and I heard this blood-curdling scream. 243 00:15:45,185 --> 00:15:48,085 And I woke up, and I rolled over and I looked at the clock 244 00:15:48,119 --> 00:15:50,501 and it said 12:36 a.m. 245 00:15:50,535 --> 00:15:52,399 And then, my girlfriend got up outta the bed, 246 00:15:52,434 --> 00:15:55,575 didn't say anything, walked into the bathroom, didn't turn he light on, 247 00:15:55,609 --> 00:15:57,715 shut the door, and I heard the toilet seat cover come up. 248 00:15:57,749 --> 00:16:01,236 I heard her sit down, and I was facing the bathroom door, and I thought, "That's odd." 249 00:16:01,270 --> 00:16:03,790 Then I felt really pulled back into, like, 250 00:16:03,824 --> 00:16:05,723 really pulled back into sleep quickly. 251 00:16:05,757 --> 00:16:08,484 The hair on the back of my neck stood up 252 00:16:08,519 --> 00:16:11,073 and everything in me was in alarm, like, 253 00:16:11,108 --> 00:16:12,868 danger, danger, danger. 254 00:16:12,902 --> 00:16:17,873 And I opened my eyes and standing against the wall next to the 255 00:16:17,907 --> 00:16:21,635 bathroom door was this little gray creature, 256 00:16:21,670 --> 00:16:24,673 and it scared me really badly. 257 00:16:24,707 --> 00:16:26,744 I had a lot of adrenaline go through my body, 258 00:16:26,778 --> 00:16:29,091 and I tried to move, and I couldn't move. 259 00:16:29,126 --> 00:16:31,921 And I struggled against that, and I tried to fight it. 260 00:16:31,956 --> 00:16:35,546 I tried to fight it mentally, I tried to fight it physically, 261 00:16:35,580 --> 00:16:40,275 and I would get to the point where I would literally panic and pass out again. 262 00:16:40,309 --> 00:16:42,415 This went on for sometime. 263 00:16:42,449 --> 00:16:44,279 I would say... 264 00:16:44,313 --> 00:16:48,835 20 or 30 times of me waking up, not being able to move, 265 00:16:48,869 --> 00:16:50,388 panicking, and passing out again. 266 00:16:50,423 --> 00:16:54,668 Each time I do this, this gray being kept getting closer to the bed, 267 00:16:54,703 --> 00:16:56,981 and as I was getting ahold of myself, 268 00:16:57,016 --> 00:16:57,947 this time I came awake. 269 00:16:57,982 --> 00:17:00,502 I opened my eyes, I looked right at it, 270 00:17:00,536 --> 00:17:02,711 and I heard clearly this time. 271 00:17:03,712 --> 00:17:05,990 "Be still. We aren't here to hurt you. 272 00:17:06,025 --> 00:17:07,819 "We're only here to check on you." 273 00:17:07,854 --> 00:17:11,064 As that was happening, I started to have these flashbacks. 274 00:17:11,099 --> 00:17:13,963 A flash of being on a gurney, being moved down a hallway, 275 00:17:13,998 --> 00:17:16,587 a flash of being in a bright lit room, 276 00:17:16,621 --> 00:17:19,452 a flash of them being over me, leaning over my stomach 277 00:17:19,486 --> 00:17:22,351 and it made me panic and pass out again. 278 00:17:22,386 --> 00:17:24,664 And then when I woke up again, 279 00:17:24,698 --> 00:17:27,425 this being was really close to the bed. 280 00:17:27,460 --> 00:17:28,978 Really, really close. 281 00:17:29,013 --> 00:17:32,051 And when I opened my eyes, I said, "Why are you doing this to me?" 282 00:17:33,224 --> 00:17:35,019 And he just said, 283 00:17:35,054 --> 00:17:39,161 "Be still." It was like this programmed response. 284 00:17:39,196 --> 00:17:43,096 At some point, this horrific experience ended 285 00:17:43,131 --> 00:17:44,891 where all at the same time 286 00:17:44,925 --> 00:17:48,688 my girlfriend throws open the door, turns on the light, 287 00:17:48,722 --> 00:17:50,828 is cursing about her legs being asleep. 288 00:17:50,862 --> 00:17:53,210 Is trying to walk, trying to stand, 289 00:17:53,244 --> 00:17:54,590 and I looked over at the clock, 290 00:17:54,625 --> 00:17:56,075 and it was like four hours later. 291 00:17:56,109 --> 00:17:58,767 Never left my room, I was sitting on my bed, 292 00:17:58,801 --> 00:18:01,149 calmed myself down, turn off the light, and I go to sleep. 293 00:18:01,183 --> 00:18:04,497 I go to work the next day, come home, dead tired, 294 00:18:04,531 --> 00:18:05,912 and my roommate approaches me in the kitchen, 295 00:18:05,946 --> 00:18:07,569 I'm making dinner that night, and says, 296 00:18:08,397 --> 00:18:09,950 "What happened to you last night?" 297 00:18:09,985 --> 00:18:11,849 After our discussion, she couldn't sleep. 298 00:18:11,883 --> 00:18:14,334 She thought she heard a prowler downstairs. 299 00:18:14,369 --> 00:18:16,405 We had a two-story town house. 300 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:18,407 She went downstairs, nobody there. 301 00:18:18,442 --> 00:18:20,168 There was a gap under my bedroom door, 302 00:18:20,202 --> 00:18:23,205 so she could clearly see that my light was on. 303 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:25,656 So she knocks on my door, at like 3:00 in the morning, 304 00:18:25,690 --> 00:18:26,933 she knocks on my door. 305 00:18:26,967 --> 00:18:28,969 No answer. She pounds on my door, no answer. 306 00:18:29,004 --> 00:18:31,800 Now she's afraid that something has happened to me. 307 00:18:31,834 --> 00:18:34,906 So she goes in my room, I'm not there. 308 00:18:34,941 --> 00:18:37,633 She witnessed I was gone during my missing time. 309 00:18:37,668 --> 00:18:39,566 She goes back, sits on her bed, 310 00:18:39,601 --> 00:18:40,947 she sees a flash of light in the hallway, 311 00:18:40,981 --> 00:18:42,397 she looks expecting to see me, 312 00:18:42,431 --> 00:18:46,746 she sees a three-and-half-foot tall or four-foot gray alien. 313 00:18:46,780 --> 00:18:49,093 Steps in the door of her room. She's fully conscious, 314 00:18:49,128 --> 00:18:51,268 sitting in bed, it stares right at her. 315 00:18:51,302 --> 00:18:52,579 She closed the door to my room, 316 00:18:52,614 --> 00:18:55,651 it goes through my closed door, as if nothing's there. 317 00:18:55,686 --> 00:18:57,964 So she's telling me that, and she goes 318 00:18:57,998 --> 00:19:00,069 she had read what Whitley Strieber's 319 00:19:00,104 --> 00:19:03,349 theCommunion prior to that, 'cause this is early '90s. 320 00:19:03,383 --> 00:19:04,971 And she said, 321 00:19:05,005 --> 00:19:07,353 "You know that book by that guy, that famous author, 322 00:19:07,387 --> 00:19:10,459 do you think you might be having that go on?" And I said, 323 00:19:10,494 --> 00:19:12,289 "I don't know." 324 00:19:12,323 --> 00:19:15,671 NARRATOR: What's most intriguing about April, Rob, and Geraldine, 325 00:19:15,706 --> 00:19:20,814 is the divergent journeys they've taken following their abduction experiences. 326 00:19:20,849 --> 00:19:23,921 April's innocence and genuine wonder still abound, 327 00:19:23,955 --> 00:19:26,613 despite what her nightmares were hiding. 328 00:19:26,648 --> 00:19:28,719 Rob's search for answers continue 329 00:19:28,753 --> 00:19:31,342 while he grapples with the obvious question, 330 00:19:31,377 --> 00:19:32,826 "Why me?" 331 00:19:32,861 --> 00:19:35,415 In Geraldine's experiences, as shocking as they are, 332 00:19:35,450 --> 00:19:39,005 have encouraged her to be a conduit for awareness. 333 00:19:40,558 --> 00:19:42,491 Well, outta the blue 334 00:19:42,526 --> 00:19:45,425 I have this very vivid dream. 335 00:19:45,460 --> 00:19:51,259 And this is one of the dreams that it was so powerful that I woke up. 336 00:19:51,293 --> 00:19:55,090 And I had to write everything down in my dream. 337 00:19:55,124 --> 00:19:57,886 Not only did I have to write things down, 338 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:01,855 I had to go to the bathroom, and physically look at my body. 339 00:20:02,546 --> 00:20:04,099 And I remember 340 00:20:04,133 --> 00:20:06,998 after I went to the bathroom and looked at my body, 341 00:20:07,033 --> 00:20:09,967 I made very specific notes. 342 00:20:10,001 --> 00:20:13,004 And then, the amazing thing is, the next morning 343 00:20:13,039 --> 00:20:16,145 after this dream, very vivid dream, 344 00:20:16,180 --> 00:20:19,148 I told my husband all about the dream. 345 00:20:19,183 --> 00:20:21,358 And I said, "Look at my stomach." 346 00:20:21,392 --> 00:20:23,083 I looked at my stomach 347 00:20:23,118 --> 00:20:25,672 and there's evidence of something here. 348 00:20:25,707 --> 00:20:29,366 There's evidence on my sheet that I slept in. A little tiny blood mark. 349 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:32,886 And my husband, he looked at me and said, "April, 350 00:20:32,921 --> 00:20:34,923 "something else is going on here. 351 00:20:34,957 --> 00:20:36,338 "These are not nightmares." 352 00:20:36,373 --> 00:20:39,617 2009, I was 28 years old. 353 00:20:39,652 --> 00:20:41,101 Uh, prime of my life, 354 00:20:41,136 --> 00:20:44,346 and my stomach started hurting really bad, right? 355 00:20:44,381 --> 00:20:46,866 I started getting really bad stomach cramps. 356 00:20:46,900 --> 00:20:49,455 I couldn't keep food in me, 357 00:20:49,489 --> 00:20:53,459 I wouldn't be throwing it up... it's just [EXHALES] in, out. 358 00:20:53,493 --> 00:20:58,291 I went from 210 pounds to 115 pounds. 359 00:20:58,326 --> 00:21:02,744 I was given a pretty much not a good diagnosis. 360 00:21:02,778 --> 00:21:05,678 The doctors said that I was gonna end up dying, 361 00:21:05,712 --> 00:21:08,301 and that I need to have a feeding tube put in me. 362 00:21:08,336 --> 00:21:10,855 And they couldn't determine what it was. 363 00:21:10,890 --> 00:21:15,688 They just knew that I was gonna die from this, uh, from this illness. 364 00:21:15,722 --> 00:21:20,900 A ton of research and a string of encounters, that made me go, like, 365 00:21:20,934 --> 00:21:23,212 "Oh, no." You know? 366 00:21:23,247 --> 00:21:25,594 Best way to describe it is a pit, 367 00:21:25,629 --> 00:21:27,976 dropping down into my stomach. 368 00:21:28,597 --> 00:21:32,014 Oh, no. I might be 369 00:21:32,049 --> 00:21:35,155 interacting or involved with this phenomenon. 370 00:21:35,190 --> 00:21:37,813 I went to bed, everything was normal, 371 00:21:37,848 --> 00:21:42,853 and exactly at 3:33 on the dot, 372 00:21:42,887 --> 00:21:46,201 I wake up and there's such a bright light 373 00:21:46,235 --> 00:21:48,997 and it just annoys me because the first thing I think, 374 00:21:49,031 --> 00:21:52,207 "Who is that inconsiderate person shining this light?" 375 00:21:52,241 --> 00:21:54,968 I go to my window and I'm looking through my blinds, 376 00:21:55,003 --> 00:21:57,868 and I see the light even brighter. 377 00:21:57,902 --> 00:22:00,664 I mean, so bright that my eyes hurt, 378 00:22:00,698 --> 00:22:02,321 you know, I'm squinting. 379 00:22:02,355 --> 00:22:05,358 And I'm trying to look behind and I'm like, "That can't be a car. 380 00:22:05,393 --> 00:22:09,983 "What is that?" And I see metallic, and I see this ship. 381 00:22:11,088 --> 00:22:15,092 Then I'm looking to this side, lights, and the ship. 382 00:22:15,126 --> 00:22:17,922 And as I'm approaching this, 383 00:22:17,957 --> 00:22:22,099 my body just paralyzed. Completely paralyzed. 384 00:22:22,133 --> 00:22:25,171 And on the other side, there are these six tall shadows 385 00:22:25,205 --> 00:22:28,277 that I'm seeing from this light emerging. 386 00:22:28,312 --> 00:22:31,350 And I'm seeing them walk towards me. 387 00:22:31,384 --> 00:22:35,250 This gray... It was a gray with these gigantic eyes 388 00:22:35,284 --> 00:22:38,771 and I'm seeing the other five in front of me, the sixth is over here. 389 00:22:38,805 --> 00:22:42,533 I'm getting pulled inside the ship, and I'm walking in with the beam next to me, 390 00:22:42,568 --> 00:22:45,709 waves his hand and everything around me changes. 391 00:22:45,743 --> 00:22:47,055 When I have an experience, I say, 392 00:22:47,089 --> 00:22:50,265 "I'm coming into the awareness of the experience." 393 00:22:50,299 --> 00:22:53,061 So, when I become aware that I'm having an experience, 394 00:22:53,441 --> 00:22:54,787 it's like... 395 00:22:54,821 --> 00:22:57,203 Poof! You go to bed, and then, 396 00:22:58,031 --> 00:22:59,930 something's happening to me. 397 00:22:59,964 --> 00:23:05,349 You would think dream, but it's not a dream because you have your five senses. 398 00:23:05,384 --> 00:23:10,147 You can touch, you can, you can taste, you can smell, 399 00:23:10,181 --> 00:23:13,357 you know, hear, and there's textures. 400 00:23:13,392 --> 00:23:15,946 You can see the textures. Whereas in dreams 401 00:23:15,980 --> 00:23:18,466 there's not so much texture in the dreams. 402 00:23:18,500 --> 00:23:23,747 So, it'll be stuff like I'm standing in my pajamas that I've gone to bed in. 403 00:23:23,781 --> 00:23:27,820 I'm in the pajamas I go to bed in, and I'm like in this metal dome. 404 00:23:27,854 --> 00:23:33,446 There would be a platform on the ground, and this weird grated floor 405 00:23:33,481 --> 00:23:37,657 but they'll be all these little tiny gray beings surrounding me 406 00:23:37,692 --> 00:23:39,625 and they're all looking up and me. 407 00:23:39,659 --> 00:23:42,248 How I now see abduction 408 00:23:42,282 --> 00:23:45,285 is that it's realer than real life. 409 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:48,944 And it's almost as if a veil, a very delicate veil 410 00:23:48,979 --> 00:23:53,155 is completely ripped open and you can't close it back up again. 411 00:23:56,538 --> 00:24:00,404 [NARRATOR READING] 412 00:24:18,664 --> 00:24:22,253 NARRATOR: As unreal as alien hybridization programs sound, 413 00:24:22,288 --> 00:24:25,118 hundreds of thousand of people around the world 414 00:24:25,153 --> 00:24:27,604 have reported extraordinary experiences. 415 00:24:27,638 --> 00:24:32,229 Allowing researchers to identity a likely sequence of events. 416 00:24:33,057 --> 00:24:34,956 The abductee witnesses a UFO, 417 00:24:34,990 --> 00:24:39,616 is taken aboard a craft and undergoes physical and neurological procedures. 418 00:24:39,650 --> 00:24:43,482 Ova or sperm is extracted following another abduction. 419 00:24:44,621 --> 00:24:47,175 Alien genetics are introduced in vitro, 420 00:24:47,209 --> 00:24:50,212 or through sexual contact with an extraterrestrial being. 421 00:24:51,420 --> 00:24:55,528 Following another abduction, an embryo is implanted. 422 00:24:55,563 --> 00:24:58,945 After carrying for up to four months, the woman is abducted again, 423 00:24:58,980 --> 00:25:01,534 and the fetus removed. 424 00:25:01,569 --> 00:25:07,022 A woman or man is abducted and shown their hybrid children. 425 00:25:07,057 --> 00:25:11,682 Memories are implanted so the abductee doesn't recall the event. 426 00:25:15,583 --> 00:25:17,654 KLOETZKE : One of the hardest things for me 427 00:25:17,688 --> 00:25:21,899 to wrap my head around was getting into the field of 428 00:25:21,934 --> 00:25:24,764 not only abductions, but a breeding program 429 00:25:24,799 --> 00:25:27,042 that involved extraterrestrials. 430 00:25:27,077 --> 00:25:30,011 And yet, there's case after case 431 00:25:30,045 --> 00:25:33,393 that has probative evidence to support 432 00:25:33,428 --> 00:25:36,431 the witnesses accounts. You can't ignore this anymore. 433 00:25:36,465 --> 00:25:41,540 Some people have been taken. Men and women have been taken. 434 00:25:41,574 --> 00:25:46,165 And some of them have been used for purposes of reproduction, 435 00:25:46,199 --> 00:25:48,339 and it appears hybridization. 436 00:25:48,374 --> 00:25:50,652 Blending with another species 437 00:25:50,687 --> 00:25:54,311 is something that you would do if you wanna fit in and not be noticed. 438 00:25:55,726 --> 00:25:57,279 Why would you do that? 439 00:25:57,314 --> 00:26:00,559 If you're a conqueror, you'd just come and say, "Get out of the way," 440 00:26:00,593 --> 00:26:03,631 and you crush 'em and take over. 441 00:26:03,665 --> 00:26:06,565 But if you wanna blend in, it means on of two things: It means, 442 00:26:06,599 --> 00:26:10,223 either you're not strong enough to overpower and take them, 443 00:26:10,914 --> 00:26:13,157 or you're desperate. 444 00:26:13,192 --> 00:26:15,263 'Cause something's wrong with your world, 445 00:26:15,297 --> 00:26:18,715 and so, you're trying to just find a new foothold. 446 00:26:18,749 --> 00:26:21,510 A new purchase, a new island. 447 00:26:21,545 --> 00:26:24,099 A new Easter Island for your species. 448 00:26:24,134 --> 00:26:28,138 I think that could be some of what's involved. 449 00:26:28,172 --> 00:26:32,107 It very well could be, but I would probably tend to 450 00:26:32,142 --> 00:26:35,732 think they're more here to up-step us, 451 00:26:35,766 --> 00:26:39,045 and bring us into another era. 452 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,703 I don't know that that is happening, personally. 453 00:26:41,738 --> 00:26:46,121 However, I do think it's important for people to know 454 00:26:46,156 --> 00:26:50,781 that there are many, many people who do believe this is occurring to them. 455 00:26:50,816 --> 00:26:56,166 And for that reason, it does deserve to be taken seriously. 456 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:59,031 I think it's one of those irrational blind spots 457 00:26:59,065 --> 00:27:01,171 that we have in society right now. 458 00:27:01,205 --> 00:27:05,002 I just can't imagine not wanting, 459 00:27:05,037 --> 00:27:08,972 you know, to do something, and yet they are laying on a table 460 00:27:09,006 --> 00:27:11,940 and these odd machines are around them. 461 00:27:11,975 --> 00:27:15,254 I think the fear or just what's next, 462 00:27:15,288 --> 00:27:19,258 and, um, just their lack of 463 00:27:20,259 --> 00:27:23,745 free will to get off the table and say, "No. 464 00:27:23,780 --> 00:27:26,092 "I-I don't want to do this." 465 00:27:26,127 --> 00:27:27,715 And that'd be okay. 466 00:27:28,888 --> 00:27:32,271 From one side of our house, we could see a bright light. 467 00:27:32,305 --> 00:27:34,273 We were very drawn to it, 468 00:27:35,136 --> 00:27:38,518 and if you go to the next door room, 469 00:27:38,553 --> 00:27:41,418 which is the living room, the light wasn't there. 470 00:27:41,452 --> 00:27:43,316 So, being curious-natured, 471 00:27:43,351 --> 00:27:46,181 and of course, I was, I would go back to the other room, 472 00:27:46,216 --> 00:27:49,288 and say, "Oh my goodness, look at these lights." 473 00:27:49,322 --> 00:27:51,704 "Look, Mom." So, my mom would come and see it. 474 00:27:51,739 --> 00:27:53,257 She saw it, 475 00:27:53,292 --> 00:27:55,881 and my sister saw it, and we were all just... 476 00:27:55,915 --> 00:27:57,503 We were mesmerized. 477 00:27:57,537 --> 00:28:01,231 These lights were going different colors. They were going... 478 00:28:02,232 --> 00:28:04,717 Spinning faster and faster. 479 00:28:04,752 --> 00:28:08,169 Soon, before we knew it, it was boom, right in front of our eyes. 480 00:28:08,203 --> 00:28:09,929 My very first abduction 481 00:28:09,964 --> 00:28:12,794 was in Fremont, when I was a child, five years old. 482 00:28:12,829 --> 00:28:15,245 Living in an apartment just off Fremont Boulevard. 483 00:28:15,279 --> 00:28:19,559 I always used to go into my mother's bedroom, which was facing a pool. 484 00:28:19,594 --> 00:28:22,597 One day I went in the evening time. 485 00:28:23,909 --> 00:28:27,050 My mother wasn't home but my father was distracted 486 00:28:27,084 --> 00:28:28,707 and I just went in there by myself. 487 00:28:28,741 --> 00:28:33,435 And as I'm looking outside the window, I'm seeing a light. 488 00:28:33,470 --> 00:28:35,334 So when we went into the regression, 489 00:28:35,368 --> 00:28:37,681 I'm seeing the light, and the next thing I know, 490 00:28:37,716 --> 00:28:41,167 I'm five years old walking up inside of a ship. 491 00:28:41,202 --> 00:28:42,651 And as I'm walking up inside of a ship, 492 00:28:42,686 --> 00:28:45,137 they're making me sit on a dental chair 493 00:28:45,171 --> 00:28:47,070 and I'm laying back, 494 00:28:47,104 --> 00:28:50,280 and they are inserting inside of me, 495 00:28:50,314 --> 00:28:52,800 in my uterus in the very back wall, 496 00:28:52,834 --> 00:28:55,768 an implant to monitor the body. 497 00:28:55,803 --> 00:28:58,806 My wife and I were staying in the motor home here, 498 00:28:59,392 --> 00:29:03,500 and I hear in the back, 499 00:29:03,534 --> 00:29:05,467 the back garage, to get into the garage, 500 00:29:05,502 --> 00:29:07,987 something jiggling the door handle. 501 00:29:08,022 --> 00:29:09,264 -Right? -[METALLIC CLINKING] 502 00:29:09,299 --> 00:29:13,510 And I'm like, "Oh, shit! No, man. You guys..." 503 00:29:13,544 --> 00:29:16,824 'Cause at this time I'm starting to realize that I'm being taken. 504 00:29:16,858 --> 00:29:19,619 So, I'm staying up, uh, 505 00:29:19,654 --> 00:29:23,382 to avoid being abducted, you know, 506 00:29:23,416 --> 00:29:25,108 and just this intense fear, 507 00:29:25,142 --> 00:29:28,387 and all of a sudden I hear something coming into the garage. I'm like... 508 00:29:29,491 --> 00:29:33,185 "Shit, they're coming into the freakin' garage, man!" 509 00:29:33,219 --> 00:29:35,912 Because everyone's sleeping, right? 510 00:29:35,946 --> 00:29:37,879 It couldn't be anything else. 511 00:29:37,914 --> 00:29:42,159 And you can hear the little footsteps going out into the garage, 512 00:29:42,194 --> 00:29:45,197 tinkering around and shit inside the garage. 513 00:29:45,231 --> 00:29:49,063 And I'm like, "Oh... I'm not going to sleep," 514 00:29:49,097 --> 00:29:52,860 but I am going to sleep, because there's something making me go to sleep. 515 00:29:52,894 --> 00:29:54,378 So, I'm blacking out... 516 00:29:55,517 --> 00:29:57,588 There's all the children in one room, 517 00:29:57,623 --> 00:30:00,833 and I'm a child being brought into this room, 518 00:30:00,868 --> 00:30:02,939 and I'm seeing all these children everywhere. 519 00:30:02,973 --> 00:30:06,425 I'm being regressed as a child walking into this... 520 00:30:06,459 --> 00:30:07,840 "Hey, what's happening here?" 521 00:30:07,875 --> 00:30:10,532 I'm one of these children that's going to be inserted. 522 00:30:10,567 --> 00:30:13,432 The children seem happy, and they're playing, 523 00:30:13,466 --> 00:30:15,399 and they're enjoying themselves. 524 00:30:15,434 --> 00:30:17,194 And then, when I look to my right, 525 00:30:17,229 --> 00:30:20,611 I'm seeing this gigantic glass wall 526 00:30:20,646 --> 00:30:24,201 and this mechanical arm moving things around 527 00:30:24,236 --> 00:30:26,548 from one side to the other. 528 00:30:26,583 --> 00:30:29,448 Now, in the regression, I'm being told 529 00:30:29,482 --> 00:30:32,347 "Okay, well, look around and sense what's occurring." 530 00:30:32,382 --> 00:30:34,556 And when I'm looking through the glass, 531 00:30:34,591 --> 00:30:37,180 is that they are grabbing the children 532 00:30:37,214 --> 00:30:41,632 and inserting through the rectum, 533 00:30:42,702 --> 00:30:43,911 the implants. 534 00:30:43,945 --> 00:30:45,602 Just like that, with a machine. 535 00:30:45,636 --> 00:30:48,674 And, yes, they are bleeding. 536 00:30:48,708 --> 00:30:53,679 And they put the children piled up, unconscious, in another corner. 537 00:30:53,713 --> 00:30:56,647 This is happening one glass wall away. 538 00:30:56,682 --> 00:30:59,409 Further, in the ship, you go to the other side, 539 00:30:59,443 --> 00:31:03,516 and that's where they extract the babies as well from the women. 540 00:31:03,551 --> 00:31:07,900 And I'm seeing the women that are being put 541 00:31:07,935 --> 00:31:11,904 inside these hooks that open their legs up 542 00:31:11,939 --> 00:31:13,802 and the children are being... 543 00:31:13,837 --> 00:31:18,117 Somehow, they do something to induce the labor. 544 00:31:18,152 --> 00:31:21,534 It's premature labor because they always want children fetuses. 545 00:31:21,569 --> 00:31:23,882 They drop through this little cone. 546 00:31:23,916 --> 00:31:26,401 It's like a slide almost, 547 00:31:26,436 --> 00:31:29,370 and it slides down through this little hole 548 00:31:29,404 --> 00:31:33,788 where it's dropped into these cases, just like we were talking earlier. 549 00:31:33,822 --> 00:31:34,962 Those cases. 550 00:31:34,996 --> 00:31:39,069 The next room, I'm seeing the tall grays 551 00:31:39,104 --> 00:31:43,142 with the petri dish doing the DNA alterations. 552 00:31:43,177 --> 00:31:44,903 Injecting the fetuses. 553 00:31:44,937 --> 00:31:50,011 The entire operation, I guess it was a harvesting and hybridization ship 554 00:31:50,046 --> 00:31:52,324 particular to this process. 555 00:31:52,358 --> 00:31:55,361 NARRATOR: Barbara Lamb has regressed hundreds of people. 556 00:31:55,396 --> 00:31:59,952 She hears common themes about the introduction of alien genetics. 557 00:31:59,987 --> 00:32:03,059 That material taken from her 558 00:32:03,093 --> 00:32:06,959 is mixed together with human sperm, 559 00:32:06,994 --> 00:32:12,240 and mixed with the genetic material, 560 00:32:12,275 --> 00:32:17,797 the reproductive material of the extraterrestrials. 561 00:32:17,832 --> 00:32:23,148 So, a new little embryo is created by them. 562 00:32:23,182 --> 00:32:27,600 The next regression goes to when I'm about 15, 16 years old. 563 00:32:27,635 --> 00:32:30,914 As I'm walking onto this ship, everything is black all around me, 564 00:32:30,949 --> 00:32:35,263 and I see a chair, another chair in front of me 565 00:32:35,298 --> 00:32:40,337 that looks like a, you know, like a gynecologist's chair. 566 00:32:40,372 --> 00:32:42,477 Examination chair basically. 567 00:32:42,512 --> 00:32:45,101 So, I'm being made to sit on there, 568 00:32:45,135 --> 00:32:50,934 and they're inserting this gigantic tube inside of my body. 569 00:32:50,969 --> 00:32:54,662 And they began the insemination process. 570 00:32:54,696 --> 00:32:59,080 So the liquid that they're putting within you is freezing. 571 00:32:59,115 --> 00:33:05,155 And I just remember that if you could just visualize, I guess, putting an ice cube 572 00:33:05,190 --> 00:33:07,571 inside of your body, you know, 573 00:33:07,606 --> 00:33:09,194 I mean, it's just horrible. 574 00:33:09,228 --> 00:33:12,887 When I was regressed, what I remember is the pain. 575 00:33:12,921 --> 00:33:17,788 The pain, you tap into the pain sensation of what happened physically, 576 00:33:17,823 --> 00:33:20,757 because your body is releasing information basically. 577 00:33:20,791 --> 00:33:25,520 Now another way that humans are 578 00:33:25,555 --> 00:33:28,799 experiencing the reproduction program 579 00:33:28,834 --> 00:33:33,908 is to actually have a sexual relationship. 580 00:33:33,942 --> 00:33:39,258 A sexual contact with one of the extraterritorial beings. 581 00:33:39,293 --> 00:33:41,985 So, I have regressed certain women 582 00:33:42,020 --> 00:33:45,609 who've had, uh, sexual intercourse 583 00:33:45,644 --> 00:33:49,061 with male extraterrestrials. 584 00:33:49,096 --> 00:33:54,101 Particularly with a reptilian species. 585 00:33:54,135 --> 00:33:56,034 I know of at least 586 00:33:56,068 --> 00:34:00,314 five times I was abducted for reproduction. 587 00:34:00,348 --> 00:34:05,664 They took me out of an environment basically. I was at a party, 588 00:34:05,698 --> 00:34:10,220 and I met this beautiful looking man, 589 00:34:10,979 --> 00:34:13,085 and, um... 590 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:19,057 I don't know what happened, but I think he basically drugged me or something, 591 00:34:19,091 --> 00:34:24,096 and in the regression, I'm seeing that he is numbing me. 592 00:34:24,131 --> 00:34:29,101 The only thing I remember in waking time is seeing his face and his eyes. 593 00:34:29,136 --> 00:34:31,517 'Cause I remember meeting this person 594 00:34:31,552 --> 00:34:33,450 but I don't remember being with him 595 00:34:33,485 --> 00:34:35,418 in the way that the regression brought it out. 596 00:34:35,452 --> 00:34:39,698 What I'm opening my eyes to is seeing his face directly in front of me 597 00:34:39,732 --> 00:34:43,115 and he is, uh, inside of me, 598 00:34:43,150 --> 00:34:48,465 and I'm seeing his very cold, expressionless face 599 00:34:48,500 --> 00:34:49,880 directly in front of me. 600 00:34:49,915 --> 00:34:51,882 He gets up, and he walks out. 601 00:34:51,917 --> 00:34:55,921 And I can feel that I had been inseminated. 602 00:34:55,955 --> 00:34:59,994 Light skin, blue eyes, dark brown hair, 603 00:35:00,028 --> 00:35:05,586 very, very tall. Very tall. Uh, Like basketball player tall. 604 00:35:05,620 --> 00:35:07,864 And, uh, slender, 605 00:35:08,451 --> 00:35:10,867 you know, perfect body. 606 00:35:11,385 --> 00:35:13,111 Very, very perfect body. 607 00:35:14,595 --> 00:35:16,976 Handsome. Handsome man basically. 608 00:35:17,011 --> 00:35:23,328 But the second part is that I'm now looking who this man is. 609 00:35:23,362 --> 00:35:26,296 And apparently it's a screen image 610 00:35:26,331 --> 00:35:29,920 of the reptilians that were working there, in that time. 611 00:35:29,955 --> 00:35:35,236 And it's actually not a real man. It's just a screen image, illusion. 612 00:35:35,271 --> 00:35:38,998 So, basically what that means is that for some women, or men, 613 00:35:39,033 --> 00:35:43,693 when they are gathering eggs or trying to inseminate, 614 00:35:43,727 --> 00:35:45,867 they create these images. 615 00:35:45,902 --> 00:35:49,733 These screen images or experiences like holographic realities 616 00:35:49,768 --> 00:35:53,254 to make it look like you're experiencing something, but you're not. 617 00:35:53,289 --> 00:35:56,982 Something that they would pull from my subconscious mind 618 00:35:57,016 --> 00:36:01,089 that would look like an ideal image of what a beautiful man 619 00:36:01,124 --> 00:36:02,953 or an attractive man would be to me. 620 00:36:02,988 --> 00:36:05,611 I'm in and out of consciousness while this is happening 621 00:36:05,646 --> 00:36:08,096 but I can see clearly him 622 00:36:08,131 --> 00:36:13,171 getting up outta the bed, not looking back, not talking, nothing. 623 00:36:13,205 --> 00:36:15,828 He is just leaving the room, marching out of the room. 624 00:36:15,863 --> 00:36:18,935 Like a zombie basically. Like a robot. 625 00:36:18,969 --> 00:36:23,181 And I am sitting there on the bed, 626 00:36:23,215 --> 00:36:28,600 and, um, I remember feeling cold again. 627 00:36:28,634 --> 00:36:30,636 That cold sensation. 628 00:36:30,671 --> 00:36:34,122 And then the woman is taken another time, 629 00:36:34,157 --> 00:36:37,678 and then that little embryo already formed 630 00:36:37,712 --> 00:36:41,129 as a mixture, a hybridized mixture 631 00:36:41,164 --> 00:36:46,307 is implanted in the womb of the woman 632 00:36:46,342 --> 00:36:51,243 and she will gestate that little embryo for a while. 633 00:36:51,278 --> 00:36:55,696 Usually a month and a half or two months or maybe a bit more. 634 00:36:55,730 --> 00:36:58,940 One time I had, it looked like a burn. 635 00:36:58,975 --> 00:37:02,323 A triangle burn next to my belly button. 636 00:37:02,358 --> 00:37:04,774 With a very long needle through the belly button, 637 00:37:04,808 --> 00:37:07,363 would probe around in the abdominal area 638 00:37:07,397 --> 00:37:10,366 until they found the uterus. Then they would into the uterus, 639 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,921 and they would find the fetus with that instrument, 640 00:37:13,955 --> 00:37:15,854 and they would have some little thing that could 641 00:37:15,888 --> 00:37:18,236 capture it and pull it back out. 642 00:37:18,270 --> 00:37:21,756 They have this prong, like a three... 643 00:37:21,791 --> 00:37:23,896 I believe it was a three finger prong, 644 00:37:23,931 --> 00:37:26,140 and they bring it inside of the body. 645 00:37:26,174 --> 00:37:28,694 It holds onto the fetus and pulls out. 646 00:37:28,729 --> 00:37:31,352 It just happens quick. It's so fast. 647 00:37:31,387 --> 00:37:33,285 That's another thing that's really incredible. 648 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,632 They pull it out, they clip it, they hook it up, 649 00:37:35,667 --> 00:37:38,670 and they put it in. Just like that. 650 00:37:38,704 --> 00:37:42,950 NARRATOR: The hybridization program Rob was exposed to was slightly different. 651 00:37:42,984 --> 00:37:45,953 He was not subjected to reproductive experiments. 652 00:37:46,919 --> 00:37:49,025 I don't remember exactly the day. 653 00:37:49,059 --> 00:37:51,924 I just... The experience itself had 654 00:37:52,580 --> 00:37:55,376 a dramatic impact on me, 655 00:37:55,411 --> 00:37:59,207 and I remember just coming into an experience. Right? 656 00:37:59,242 --> 00:38:01,451 Becoming aware that I'm having an experience, 657 00:38:01,486 --> 00:38:03,177 you know, textures and everything, 658 00:38:03,211 --> 00:38:06,594 and I was in, like, this underground facility. 659 00:38:06,629 --> 00:38:13,291 The same kind of grating almost on the ground and some dirt. 660 00:38:13,325 --> 00:38:18,054 But lights going down, like a stereotypical 661 00:38:18,088 --> 00:38:20,850 rock underground facility, right? 662 00:38:20,884 --> 00:38:23,577 I'm walking with this being down the hallway 663 00:38:23,611 --> 00:38:25,924 and there's other beings walking, 664 00:38:25,958 --> 00:38:28,858 just kinda looks like him, but not quite, 665 00:38:28,892 --> 00:38:30,480 going this way. 666 00:38:30,515 --> 00:38:33,725 Something felt wrong right here. 667 00:38:33,759 --> 00:38:37,522 Right in my gut. A tightness. 668 00:38:37,556 --> 00:38:40,904 Something's off here. I couldn't quite put my finger on it. 669 00:38:40,939 --> 00:38:43,873 And when a being would walk by me like this, 670 00:38:43,907 --> 00:38:46,807 it would kinda like look at me. 671 00:38:46,841 --> 00:38:49,292 If you're walking by, it would just, like, 672 00:38:49,327 --> 00:38:52,916 you know, but with this look of malice. 673 00:38:52,951 --> 00:38:54,849 I felt malice from it. 674 00:38:54,884 --> 00:38:57,438 What I was looking at was 675 00:38:59,509 --> 00:39:00,717 a technology. 676 00:39:00,752 --> 00:39:04,031 An overlay of a human on top of it. 677 00:39:04,065 --> 00:39:10,175 So the image that they're projecting is of these tall white Nordic beings, right? 678 00:39:10,209 --> 00:39:13,937 But when I walked by, it was like a digital distortion 679 00:39:13,972 --> 00:39:15,663 in the holographic image, 680 00:39:15,698 --> 00:39:19,805 and I can see that there was a lizard face behind that holographic image. 681 00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:22,808 INTERVIEWER: They were wearing the face that they wanted you to see. 682 00:39:22,843 --> 00:39:25,017 That they want everyone to see. 683 00:39:25,052 --> 00:39:28,504 Not just me. This is their look. 684 00:39:28,538 --> 00:39:33,854 So, they take me to the next room, and it's as far as I can see down there. 685 00:39:33,888 --> 00:39:36,926 Like this hallway, and there's rows upon rows 686 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,963 of these glass tube like things. 687 00:39:39,998 --> 00:39:42,552 There was this blue liquid inside, 688 00:39:42,587 --> 00:39:45,900 and beings inside of these tubes 689 00:39:45,935 --> 00:39:48,386 that looked like a tall white zeta. 690 00:39:48,420 --> 00:39:50,318 It was basically all these beings, and they said 691 00:39:50,353 --> 00:39:52,113 "Oh, here's our cloning chambers." 692 00:39:52,148 --> 00:39:54,150 Like, cloning chambers? 693 00:39:54,184 --> 00:39:57,049 I don't like that, either. That's not cool. 694 00:39:57,084 --> 00:40:03,435 I've had an experience where I woke up and I was inside of the tube. 695 00:40:03,470 --> 00:40:08,958 And I look down, you know, and I'm in this blue liquid, and I'm going, "Wait..." 696 00:40:08,992 --> 00:40:12,686 I see my hands, and my hands are these long fingers 697 00:40:12,720 --> 00:40:15,654 white skin, and I'm like, "Is this me?" 698 00:40:15,689 --> 00:40:18,036 And I'm all, "Oh, shit! 699 00:40:18,070 --> 00:40:21,384 "This is me, I'm wiggling my fingers. Oh, shit. This is me." 700 00:40:21,419 --> 00:40:23,973 And I look out, and there's all these beings going, 701 00:40:24,007 --> 00:40:27,252 "Oh, shit!" And they're all scrambling around, 702 00:40:27,286 --> 00:40:28,978 and black out. 703 00:40:29,012 --> 00:40:31,221 So, there's something there. 704 00:40:31,256 --> 00:40:34,086 These beings are abducting people, 705 00:40:34,121 --> 00:40:38,608 removing their consciousness just like my consciousness was removed from my body. 706 00:40:38,643 --> 00:40:42,094 I believe they're removing consciousness from abductees, 707 00:40:42,129 --> 00:40:44,062 and that's the power source, 708 00:40:44,096 --> 00:40:48,791 like these are the V8 engines they're putting in these cars. 709 00:40:48,825 --> 00:40:50,378 Of course, they are gonna feel benevolent, 710 00:40:50,413 --> 00:40:52,173 because they've got the consciousness... 711 00:40:52,208 --> 00:40:55,453 Mrs. Jensen doesn't realize that when she goes to sleep at night, 712 00:40:55,487 --> 00:41:00,009 her consciousness is powering a clone, to do God knows what. 713 00:41:00,043 --> 00:41:01,804 NARRATOR: While the experiences are alarming, 714 00:41:01,838 --> 00:41:05,808 the effort to wipe or hide the memory is just as disturbing. 715 00:41:05,842 --> 00:41:10,088 But through regression therapy, most abductees uncover the truth. 716 00:41:11,020 --> 00:41:12,573 Whatever kind of ET you're with, 717 00:41:12,608 --> 00:41:15,921 they'll lean over and look at you right in the face. 718 00:41:15,956 --> 00:41:17,647 They would look at me with their eyes, 719 00:41:17,682 --> 00:41:21,202 and they would telepathically speak to me and they would tell me, 720 00:41:21,237 --> 00:41:23,550 "You will not remember this. 721 00:41:23,584 --> 00:41:25,828 "You will not remember this." 722 00:41:25,862 --> 00:41:27,933 And they will switch from looking at me, 723 00:41:27,968 --> 00:41:29,935 to looking down at my lower body, 724 00:41:30,626 --> 00:41:32,938 and I would feel a cold scalpel 725 00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:36,942 slice, with no pain. 726 00:41:36,977 --> 00:41:39,048 And they would look back at me with their eyes, 727 00:41:39,082 --> 00:41:42,500 and I would directly have to look in their eyes, and they would... 728 00:41:42,534 --> 00:41:45,433 They would tell me to look in their eyes and focus. 729 00:41:45,468 --> 00:41:49,990 They were calm messages, calm voices. 730 00:41:50,024 --> 00:41:51,888 GERALDINE: I remember those eyes. 731 00:41:51,923 --> 00:41:54,028 Those eyes that you just can't forget. 732 00:41:54,512 --> 00:41:56,203 It was like glass. 733 00:41:56,928 --> 00:41:58,516 And it was cold. 734 00:41:59,447 --> 00:42:01,380 Cold, empty stare. 735 00:42:02,071 --> 00:42:04,487 Literally like a robot. Like AI. 736 00:42:04,522 --> 00:42:08,526 "You will be just fine. You will be just fine." 737 00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:12,322 And the word "baby-conception" of course. 738 00:42:12,357 --> 00:42:15,981 I remember hearing that. Not only did I write it down, 739 00:42:16,016 --> 00:42:19,019 I heard it telepathically. 740 00:42:19,053 --> 00:42:22,540 When they're showing you these things, they're controlling your thoughts. 741 00:42:22,574 --> 00:42:25,646 They're controlling what you're seeing in your mind. 742 00:42:25,681 --> 00:42:27,648 And I don't like that. 743 00:42:27,683 --> 00:42:29,408 I think I get the feeling that 744 00:42:29,443 --> 00:42:32,342 they just want me to just go with it, and go, "Oh, okay, okay." 745 00:42:32,377 --> 00:42:34,655 But I fight it, and it's hard to describe. 746 00:42:34,690 --> 00:42:38,072 But you can feel that they're frustrated with you. 747 00:42:38,107 --> 00:42:41,973 This program is a part of the reptilian program. 748 00:42:42,007 --> 00:42:43,906 A much darker program. 749 00:42:43,940 --> 00:42:47,426 Darker from our concept of negative. 750 00:42:47,461 --> 00:42:51,430 And what they are inserting in you 751 00:42:51,465 --> 00:42:55,124 is a much lower vibration entity. 752 00:42:55,158 --> 00:42:59,404 And the reason why they create these screen images, 753 00:42:59,438 --> 00:43:02,303 and they go through all this trouble of doing this, 754 00:43:02,338 --> 00:43:06,169 is because what happens with sexual energy 755 00:43:06,204 --> 00:43:09,138 is when a union is created 756 00:43:09,172 --> 00:43:13,314 the amount of energy that is created from that union 757 00:43:13,349 --> 00:43:18,526 is an energetic signature that is ingrained into the hybrid being. 758 00:43:18,561 --> 00:43:23,255 From the moment of conception, or contact, literally, 759 00:43:23,290 --> 00:43:25,982 that unification of that energy, 760 00:43:26,017 --> 00:43:29,814 is imprinted within the subconscious mind 761 00:43:29,848 --> 00:43:31,643 and the vibration of the being. 762 00:43:31,678 --> 00:43:36,648 And that's going to designate the vibration in the subconscious mind 763 00:43:36,683 --> 00:43:40,514 of this, whoever they're creating throughout their entire life. 764 00:43:40,548 --> 00:43:42,654 That's when you start to understand the power of sex 765 00:43:42,689 --> 00:43:46,244 and the difference between something done through love, 766 00:43:46,278 --> 00:43:49,316 and something done through some painful situation. 767 00:43:49,350 --> 00:43:52,733 That's why they go through the trouble of creating this 768 00:43:52,768 --> 00:43:54,977 screen image of a man, whatever. 769 00:43:55,011 --> 00:43:57,048 What he looks like, it doesn't matter. 770 00:43:57,082 --> 00:43:59,533 They just pull out from your subconscious mind 771 00:43:59,567 --> 00:44:03,502 what may seem they think is gonna be appealing to you. 772 00:44:03,537 --> 00:44:07,023 Sorry, guys, not all ETs are good, you know? 773 00:44:07,058 --> 00:44:09,957 Just like here on Earth, we have bad people, we have good people. 774 00:44:09,992 --> 00:44:11,234 It's the same thing. 775 00:44:11,269 --> 00:44:13,858 It's just everything is a fractal of the whole. 776 00:44:13,892 --> 00:44:16,170 You get smaller and smaller down, 777 00:44:16,205 --> 00:44:18,310 it's the same thing as the big things. So, you have 778 00:44:18,345 --> 00:44:20,174 good people, you have bad people. 779 00:44:20,209 --> 00:44:23,246 People with agendas out to do whatever. 780 00:44:23,281 --> 00:44:26,249 It's the same thing up there. Same thing. 781 00:44:26,284 --> 00:44:29,667 I mean, look, human beings for 10,000 plus years 782 00:44:29,701 --> 00:44:32,704 have taken animals in the wild and bred them. 783 00:44:32,739 --> 00:44:36,259 And thereby changing them. That's how we created all the species of dogs. 784 00:44:36,294 --> 00:44:38,192 That exists from wolves. 785 00:44:38,227 --> 00:44:41,817 Cattle are totally different from where they were 1,000 years ago. Sheep... 786 00:44:41,851 --> 00:44:44,267 Sheep in the wild are aggressive and tough. 787 00:44:44,302 --> 00:44:45,890 Not the way we breed them. 788 00:44:45,924 --> 00:44:48,582 We change all of these animals. 789 00:44:48,616 --> 00:44:51,689 And, so now, can we be bred into something different? 790 00:44:51,723 --> 00:44:53,656 The answer is, absolutely. Of course, we can. 791 00:44:53,691 --> 00:44:56,210 We're doing it to ourselves now, 792 00:44:56,245 --> 00:44:57,833 but the real question to ask is, 793 00:44:57,867 --> 00:45:03,321 has someone else come, taken us, and added a different mixture? 794 00:45:11,778 --> 00:45:15,298 [NARRATOR READING] 795 00:45:27,897 --> 00:45:32,660 Abduction experiences that involve sexual reproduction are harrowing enough, 796 00:45:32,695 --> 00:45:35,215 but the emotional and psychological challenges 797 00:45:35,249 --> 00:45:38,218 only intensify with what comes next. 798 00:45:38,252 --> 00:45:43,154 Well, we were very excited because we had one daughter. Very blessed, 799 00:45:43,188 --> 00:45:46,605 and changed our world of happiness. We realized 800 00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:49,056 we wanna share this happiness with a sibling. 801 00:45:49,091 --> 00:45:50,678 SIERRA: I called a friend of mine 802 00:45:50,713 --> 00:45:52,680 out of this woman's spiritual group in Manitou Springs. 803 00:45:52,715 --> 00:45:56,201 I said please come over, I need some help. Something crazy happened last night. 804 00:45:56,236 --> 00:45:59,998 She looks me up and down, she tilts her head, and she goes, "Sierra, 805 00:46:00,033 --> 00:46:01,482 "are you pregnant?" 806 00:46:01,517 --> 00:46:02,794 So, I told her everything. 807 00:46:02,829 --> 00:46:04,934 And she's like "Mmm-hmm. Okay. Yeah, makes sense." 808 00:46:04,969 --> 00:46:07,074 I'm like would you please just tell me what's happening. 809 00:46:07,109 --> 00:46:11,527 And that's when she broke down the whole zeta hybridization program. 810 00:46:11,561 --> 00:46:13,460 In detail. 811 00:46:13,494 --> 00:46:15,807 And I just sat there shaking my head going, "This is a bunch of nonsense." 812 00:46:15,842 --> 00:46:19,086 I'm not bisexual. I don't have relationships with men. 813 00:46:19,121 --> 00:46:21,261 So, it's like, how am I pregnant? 814 00:46:21,295 --> 00:46:24,022 When we have the reports from the witnesses 815 00:46:24,057 --> 00:46:28,509 that have an alternative lifestyle, such as lesbianism 816 00:46:28,544 --> 00:46:32,410 that have never had sexual relations with a man, 817 00:46:32,444 --> 00:46:34,343 who is now pregnant. 818 00:46:34,377 --> 00:46:35,723 What do you do with that? 819 00:46:35,758 --> 00:46:38,381 We formed a plan. I said I wanted to keep the baby. 820 00:46:38,416 --> 00:46:42,316 It was nobody's right to impregnate me, and use me as a laboratory rat. 821 00:46:43,007 --> 00:46:45,250 I wanted to keep the baby. 822 00:46:45,285 --> 00:46:47,839 They had me move out of my girlfriend's house, 823 00:46:47,874 --> 00:46:50,704 and I would go and stay with each one of these women. 824 00:46:50,738 --> 00:46:53,741 And then, they would tell me when I would move. 825 00:46:53,776 --> 00:46:56,227 So, it was like this whole cloak and dagger thing that we did. 826 00:46:56,261 --> 00:46:58,954 Knowing that I was pregnant four months. 827 00:46:58,988 --> 00:47:01,888 I could have been pregnant a bit longer before then. 828 00:47:01,922 --> 00:47:03,648 I was starting to show, 829 00:47:03,682 --> 00:47:06,789 and all the women were telling me what to do, taking care of me. 830 00:47:06,824 --> 00:47:08,964 And my girlfriend and I started having a lot of riffs. 831 00:47:08,998 --> 00:47:13,071 I really think even though she's such a believer, 832 00:47:13,106 --> 00:47:15,142 when confronted with it, 833 00:47:15,177 --> 00:47:19,698 I think ultimately she thought I slept with a guy and got pregnant. 834 00:47:19,733 --> 00:47:22,011 Last, like, big argument that we had, 835 00:47:22,046 --> 00:47:25,704 she's like, "Sierra, this is a real baby. You need to go to a doctor." 836 00:47:25,739 --> 00:47:28,224 I've always been very careful with my partners, 837 00:47:28,259 --> 00:47:30,261 and we've always been very conscious about 838 00:47:30,295 --> 00:47:32,504 having the right time to start a family. 839 00:47:32,539 --> 00:47:36,819 The times that I would become pregnant was very... 840 00:47:37,924 --> 00:47:41,099 We couldn't understand how that could have happened. 841 00:47:41,134 --> 00:47:42,549 Okay. Number one. 842 00:47:42,583 --> 00:47:47,381 Number two, um, it would always end in a miscarriage. 843 00:47:47,416 --> 00:47:53,353 Yeah, I could conceive, but I never kept it. 844 00:47:55,044 --> 00:47:59,807 I would have indications of pregnancy, heightened sense of smell, 845 00:48:00,532 --> 00:48:03,708 sensitivity, things like that. 846 00:48:03,742 --> 00:48:06,918 And then, I would have a slightly heavy period, and gone. 847 00:48:06,953 --> 00:48:12,130 I don't even think I knew that I was pregnant on a few occasions, 848 00:48:12,165 --> 00:48:14,546 until I had a very late period. 849 00:48:14,581 --> 00:48:18,412 I went and checked, and, "Oh, my gosh, I'm pregnant." 850 00:48:18,447 --> 00:48:21,933 And then, I had a miscarriage. I was like "Oh, okay." 851 00:48:21,968 --> 00:48:25,247 It was an emotional rollercoaster because sometimes I would get excited 852 00:48:25,281 --> 00:48:29,320 and I would be like, "Oh, my gosh, I'm pregnant!" We didn't expect it. 853 00:48:29,354 --> 00:48:33,358 Well, you know, let's just make the best of it, and we'll just make it work. 854 00:48:33,393 --> 00:48:35,671 Some months I would miss the cycle, 855 00:48:35,705 --> 00:48:38,985 and then three months would pass, and I wouldn't have my cycle. 856 00:48:39,019 --> 00:48:41,953 And then, I would think that I was pregnant, 857 00:48:41,988 --> 00:48:45,129 but there was no way. I didn't have a partner or anything. 858 00:48:45,163 --> 00:48:48,718 One month, all the way up to three months. I mean, 859 00:48:48,753 --> 00:48:52,550 let my body clear out, and try again in two more months. 860 00:48:53,827 --> 00:48:57,486 It began to be feeling like it was 861 00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:00,523 gonna be another let down. Why are we trying again? 862 00:49:01,076 --> 00:49:02,215 Very emotional. 863 00:49:02,249 --> 00:49:05,735 When I started to have the miscarriages is November, 864 00:49:05,770 --> 00:49:09,222 I went to UCLA, because I didn't want to. 865 00:49:09,256 --> 00:49:13,502 I would have a miscarriage, just like a normal miscarriage. 866 00:49:13,536 --> 00:49:16,194 Then other times I would go in for my appointment 867 00:49:16,229 --> 00:49:17,678 and there would just be no baby. 868 00:49:17,713 --> 00:49:21,165 It would just be... The doctor would say, 869 00:49:21,199 --> 00:49:23,029 "Your body must have absorbed it." 870 00:49:23,063 --> 00:49:25,686 Medical doctors, medical science would say the same thing. 871 00:49:25,721 --> 00:49:32,210 You had a miscarriage and your body absorbed that, uh, that child, that being. 872 00:49:32,245 --> 00:49:35,731 I don't feel comfortable arguing with medical doctors about this. 873 00:49:35,765 --> 00:49:39,873 They know a lot more about this than I would know. 874 00:49:39,907 --> 00:49:46,776 But I have spoken with women, who have had such a situation happen. 875 00:49:46,811 --> 00:49:50,159 And what's interesting about some of them is that 876 00:49:50,194 --> 00:49:54,439 they have also had what any normal person would say, 877 00:49:54,474 --> 00:49:59,306 "That's a UFO experience." That's a alien abduction experience. 878 00:49:59,341 --> 00:50:03,069 In other worlds, some of these people in addition to having a missing fetus, 879 00:50:03,103 --> 00:50:08,626 have also had memories, clear memories of abductions by non-human beings. 880 00:50:08,660 --> 00:50:10,662 After my first menstrual cycle, 881 00:50:10,697 --> 00:50:13,251 that's when they started to 882 00:50:13,286 --> 00:50:18,601 uh, pick me up and do more things with me, as far as reproduction. 883 00:50:18,636 --> 00:50:21,777 I had two children already. My son and my daughter, 884 00:50:21,811 --> 00:50:23,227 and I didn't wanna have more, 885 00:50:23,261 --> 00:50:25,850 so I went to the doctor, I said I wanna get a tuba ligation. 886 00:50:25,884 --> 00:50:28,301 We made the appointment, I went in to get it done, 887 00:50:28,335 --> 00:50:30,958 and they did it in the office under local anesthesia. 888 00:50:30,993 --> 00:50:33,685 But while he was in there doing the tubal 889 00:50:33,720 --> 00:50:36,723 he said, "You know, your abdominal cavity 890 00:50:36,757 --> 00:50:39,139 "is full of adhesions. Have you had any other procedures?" 891 00:50:39,174 --> 00:50:41,141 Every time I would go to the doctor, he'll be like, 892 00:50:41,176 --> 00:50:44,213 "You're fine, you're fine. There's nothing wrong." 893 00:50:44,248 --> 00:50:46,595 And then they found cysts... 894 00:50:46,629 --> 00:50:51,082 Little cysts. That seems to be very common with women that do this. 895 00:50:51,117 --> 00:50:55,466 They've had sonograms and pregnancy tests that show this. 896 00:50:55,500 --> 00:50:56,984 Clearly they're pregnant. 897 00:50:57,019 --> 00:51:01,299 And then they report literally overnight, they're not. 898 00:51:01,334 --> 00:51:03,681 They knew something was different, they knew something was wrong, 899 00:51:03,715 --> 00:51:07,133 they go to the doctor and there's not a sign they were ever even pregnant. 900 00:51:07,167 --> 00:51:09,756 It was probably about a week, week-and-a-half later, 901 00:51:09,790 --> 00:51:14,036 I sat straight up in bed and I screamed. 902 00:51:14,071 --> 00:51:16,625 And my stomach was flat, and I was like... 903 00:51:17,798 --> 00:51:20,939 "It's gone. The baby's not there anymore." 904 00:51:22,631 --> 00:51:24,943 When a woman is pregnant, many times 905 00:51:24,978 --> 00:51:30,708 the alien beings will abduct her and manipulate the fetus in utero. 906 00:51:30,742 --> 00:51:35,954 I would say about 16 of those are done through, like, 907 00:51:35,989 --> 00:51:39,096 in my uterus. Like, actually insemination. 908 00:51:39,130 --> 00:51:44,618 Can that happen? We know. We do in vitro fertilization. We do, you know... 909 00:51:44,653 --> 00:51:47,690 We have surrogates who can carry a baby to term for others. 910 00:51:47,725 --> 00:51:53,731 We have that kind of monkeying around within our genetic code now. 911 00:51:54,352 --> 00:51:55,595 We know it can be done. 912 00:51:55,629 --> 00:51:59,150 There have been very few doctors that I've talked to 913 00:51:59,185 --> 00:52:05,950 who have been willing to do much in the way of examination in these manners. 914 00:52:05,984 --> 00:52:07,779 And it is difficult, 'cause it costs money. 915 00:52:07,814 --> 00:52:11,162 Of course, equipment and labs and all of that is expensive. 916 00:52:11,197 --> 00:52:14,752 They did an ultrasound and what the lab tech said, 917 00:52:14,786 --> 00:52:17,203 and understand this was kind of said under his breath. 918 00:52:17,237 --> 00:52:20,689 He said, "Well, that's interesting. It's something I've never seen before." 919 00:52:20,723 --> 00:52:22,035 And I said, "What's that?" 920 00:52:22,069 --> 00:52:26,902 And he said, "A perfectly intact egg sac without an egg." 921 00:52:26,936 --> 00:52:31,182 I was told that I had endometriosis, 922 00:52:31,217 --> 00:52:34,012 which I just attributed, 923 00:52:34,047 --> 00:52:36,325 you know, the miscarriages to that. 924 00:52:37,430 --> 00:52:39,432 But again, I was young. 925 00:52:39,466 --> 00:52:41,434 I just took the word of the doctor 926 00:52:41,468 --> 00:52:44,644 and didn't question it too much to be honest with you. 927 00:52:44,678 --> 00:52:46,301 I couldn't connect the dots. 928 00:52:46,335 --> 00:52:49,994 And my doctors I went to, you know, 929 00:52:50,028 --> 00:52:52,686 a lot of them would be like, "Take it easy. 930 00:52:52,721 --> 00:52:55,241 "It's supposed to be a relaxing period. 931 00:52:55,275 --> 00:53:00,694 "You need to go ahead and learn to have a stress free weekend, you know." 932 00:53:00,729 --> 00:53:02,938 A lot of it was associated with stress. 933 00:53:02,972 --> 00:53:05,078 But I didn't feel stressed out. 934 00:53:05,112 --> 00:53:07,805 They always wanna do testing on your hormones. 935 00:53:07,839 --> 00:53:09,289 "Are you sleeping okay?" 936 00:53:09,324 --> 00:53:12,361 "His stress level, what's going on in his world?" 937 00:53:12,396 --> 00:53:14,398 "Is your career very demanding?" 938 00:53:15,744 --> 00:53:17,539 A lot of factors. 939 00:53:17,573 --> 00:53:19,851 After probably the fifth miscarriage, 940 00:53:19,886 --> 00:53:25,478 we began to get a little bit antsy and emotional about it. 941 00:53:25,512 --> 00:53:28,860 It was taking a toll on me, my body. 942 00:53:28,895 --> 00:53:31,000 It's painful. It's very painful. 943 00:53:31,035 --> 00:53:33,071 And they're not gentle, obviously. 944 00:53:33,106 --> 00:53:36,903 Because they don't think what they're doing is wrong. 945 00:53:36,937 --> 00:53:40,803 They also don't have the same scale of emotions 946 00:53:40,838 --> 00:53:43,461 and sentiments that we have. It's very different. 947 00:53:43,496 --> 00:53:45,636 There's a number of these cases. 948 00:53:45,670 --> 00:53:47,258 I personally believe 949 00:53:47,293 --> 00:53:49,916 this is one reason I believe that there's a hybridization program. 950 00:53:49,950 --> 00:53:53,126 Because of this fact, this factor. 951 00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:56,267 My personal experience I would put it in the hundreds 952 00:53:56,302 --> 00:54:01,307 of reports that I'm either aware of, or have been personally involved in. 953 00:54:01,341 --> 00:54:04,379 These are more common than most people realize. 954 00:54:04,413 --> 00:54:07,796 And when you have a number of these witnesses remembering this, 955 00:54:07,830 --> 00:54:10,108 I'm... Absolutely, I pay attention to that. 956 00:54:10,143 --> 00:54:12,766 I think that this is something that's going on. 957 00:54:12,801 --> 00:54:18,427 This is so difficult for not only the female abductee, 958 00:54:18,462 --> 00:54:20,326 but if they're in a relationship 959 00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:24,951 where a woman like April will have several miscarriages. 960 00:54:24,985 --> 00:54:27,712 And then, she'll finally be able to get pregnant. 961 00:54:27,747 --> 00:54:30,439 I thought I got the flu. 962 00:54:30,474 --> 00:54:36,790 And at that time I did not know that we had became pregnant. 963 00:54:36,825 --> 00:54:42,106 That night was more of a... An awe moment 964 00:54:42,140 --> 00:54:48,457 of this is the reason why you woke up with blood on your stomach. 965 00:54:48,492 --> 00:54:50,459 This is the reason why you woke up 966 00:54:52,047 --> 00:54:55,775 writing down, "Baby conceived." 967 00:54:56,431 --> 00:54:58,812 It was a moment of clarity 968 00:54:58,847 --> 00:55:02,264 of this being helped you create 969 00:55:03,403 --> 00:55:04,922 something to come. 970 00:55:04,956 --> 00:55:09,340 We've noticed that most of the abductees 971 00:55:09,375 --> 00:55:11,204 are in a certain age group. 972 00:55:11,238 --> 00:55:15,346 Everyone that I know of, their children are gifted children. 973 00:55:15,381 --> 00:55:18,625 They're all very bright kids for some reason. 974 00:55:18,660 --> 00:55:22,767 I don't know why, but the best way to change a civilization 975 00:55:22,802 --> 00:55:24,769 is to start with the children. 976 00:55:24,804 --> 00:55:30,016 NARRATOR: And April truly believes she was a beneficiary of alien intervention. 977 00:55:30,050 --> 00:55:33,330 They did yield my son. Absolutely. 978 00:55:34,227 --> 00:55:36,471 Without any doubt. 979 00:55:36,505 --> 00:55:41,717 It's unexplainable, but probably six weeks after that dream, 980 00:55:41,752 --> 00:55:43,650 that it was confirmed it was a pregnancy. 981 00:55:43,685 --> 00:55:48,275 We didn't wanna say too much. We didn't wanna get our hopes up. 982 00:55:48,310 --> 00:55:50,864 That was the biggest thing, not getting your hopes up. 983 00:55:52,107 --> 00:55:55,938 But did it bother us that we both knew 984 00:55:56,698 --> 00:56:00,011 that we had had an encounter 985 00:56:00,046 --> 00:56:02,842 with something that was 986 00:56:02,876 --> 00:56:06,673 not of human race that helped us genetically have a baby? 987 00:56:06,708 --> 00:56:08,434 We were so excited. 988 00:56:08,951 --> 00:56:11,264 It didn't faze us. 989 00:56:11,298 --> 00:56:14,267 The pregnancy itself was very, very different. 990 00:56:14,301 --> 00:56:17,753 Not only for me carrying him as a mother, 991 00:56:17,788 --> 00:56:22,689 even for the doctors, the blood work was very different. 992 00:56:22,724 --> 00:56:24,829 It evolved all through the nine months, 993 00:56:24,864 --> 00:56:26,728 and we were both okay. 994 00:56:26,762 --> 00:56:30,801 NARRATOR: Unlike April, most experiencers involved in hybrid programs, 995 00:56:30,835 --> 00:56:33,044 don't have Earth-bound children, 996 00:56:33,079 --> 00:56:34,943 yet they remain connected. 997 00:56:34,977 --> 00:56:37,152 Some of them have talked repeatedly actually. 998 00:56:37,186 --> 00:56:38,533 There have been a number of cases of women 999 00:56:38,567 --> 00:56:41,708 claiming to remember being taken aboard a craft 1000 00:56:41,743 --> 00:56:45,781 and being presented with an infant that they were told was theirs. 1001 00:56:45,816 --> 00:56:49,889 Some people have many hybrid children. 1002 00:56:49,923 --> 00:56:54,687 Just last night I regressed a man who had discovered 1003 00:56:54,721 --> 00:57:00,313 he had 336 hybrid children. 1004 00:57:00,347 --> 00:57:03,868 The number 17 sticks in my mind. Which is a lot. 1005 00:57:03,903 --> 00:57:08,010 But I think that not many of them grew up. 1006 00:57:08,045 --> 00:57:10,323 I think most of them died in infancy. 1007 00:57:10,357 --> 00:57:15,121 I have 24 hybrid children. And it's a lengthy process. 1008 00:57:15,155 --> 00:57:19,539 The whole process of insemination, of having the children, 1009 00:57:19,574 --> 00:57:22,784 and many other implants that happened in between 1010 00:57:22,818 --> 00:57:25,511 in order to facilitate the program. 1011 00:57:25,545 --> 00:57:27,305 Sometimes they're taken 1012 00:57:27,340 --> 00:57:33,346 when the hybrid children are more in their childhood years, 1013 00:57:33,380 --> 00:57:34,761 or even older. 1014 00:57:34,796 --> 00:57:38,040 And as I'm brought back into ship, he shows me again another box. 1015 00:57:38,075 --> 00:57:39,766 The box has eight little lights. 1016 00:57:39,801 --> 00:57:41,388 Eight little lights. 1017 00:57:41,423 --> 00:57:46,083 They zoom up in front of me, all around me, and then they expand. 1018 00:57:46,117 --> 00:57:49,811 And the first thing I see is this little boy. 1019 00:57:49,845 --> 00:57:51,640 Strange, blond, curly hair. 1020 00:57:51,675 --> 00:57:55,886 These magnificent giant eyes. 1021 00:57:55,920 --> 00:58:01,892 Eyes that we don't have on this planet. Complex eyes. Deep eyes. 1022 00:58:01,926 --> 00:58:05,378 And very frail, thin skin. 1023 00:58:05,412 --> 00:58:07,932 Thin structure to the body. Beautiful. 1024 00:58:07,967 --> 00:58:09,520 And as I'm looking at this child, 1025 00:58:09,555 --> 00:58:13,835 it's this feeling of love that comes over me. 1026 00:58:13,869 --> 00:58:18,184 And I understand. I see myself in the child. 1027 00:58:18,218 --> 00:58:22,222 With this beautiful eyes, this face and everything. 1028 00:58:24,155 --> 00:58:26,537 As this child comes closer to me, 1029 00:58:26,572 --> 00:58:31,818 it's this immediate knowing that, that is a product of myself. 1030 00:58:31,853 --> 00:58:33,475 Because I can see myself in the child. 1031 00:58:33,510 --> 00:58:39,101 And I'm overcome with this feeling of motherhood. 1032 00:58:39,826 --> 00:58:41,518 One night I went to bed, 1033 00:58:42,657 --> 00:58:45,970 and I woke up in a cave. 1034 00:58:46,005 --> 00:58:51,804 I can feel the cold, damp feeling on my feet. 1035 00:58:51,838 --> 00:58:56,394 It's lit up with light, but I can't see the source of the light. 1036 00:58:56,429 --> 00:59:01,883 And there's a gray there with a little girl. 1037 00:59:01,917 --> 00:59:04,057 And she didn't look right. 1038 00:59:04,092 --> 00:59:07,613 She was pale and she had... 1039 00:59:07,647 --> 00:59:13,757 Her hair was stringy and kind of a dirty blond color. 1040 00:59:13,791 --> 00:59:15,310 She has a nose, 1041 00:59:16,173 --> 00:59:18,175 but it's small. 1042 00:59:18,209 --> 00:59:20,108 She had huge blue eyes. 1043 00:59:20,142 --> 00:59:23,387 And I can't take my eyes off of her face, 1044 00:59:23,421 --> 00:59:27,667 because I'm trying to see me in her and I don't. 1045 00:59:27,702 --> 00:59:32,396 And he brought her to me and he said, "She's yours." 1046 00:59:34,950 --> 00:59:37,366 Which threw me, because 1047 00:59:39,817 --> 00:59:41,647 I can barely accept this. 1048 00:59:41,681 --> 00:59:44,270 This sounds insane, I realize, 1049 00:59:44,788 --> 00:59:46,444 but I was shocked. 1050 00:59:46,479 --> 00:59:49,137 I didn't question whether he was telling me the truth or not. 1051 00:59:49,171 --> 00:59:52,105 Which I find strange now, 1052 00:59:52,140 --> 00:59:54,729 but I knew he was telling me the truth. 1053 00:59:54,763 --> 00:59:57,697 And he walked her up to me 1054 00:59:58,422 --> 01:00:00,079 and told me to mother her. 1055 01:00:01,667 --> 01:00:05,947 And I took it to mean show her affection. 1056 01:00:05,981 --> 01:00:11,297 She never once opened her mouth. She never spoke verbally. 1057 01:00:11,331 --> 01:00:13,264 I could tell something was wrong. 1058 01:00:13,299 --> 01:00:18,753 And I don't know whether it's just... 1059 01:00:18,787 --> 01:00:21,272 I don't know what it was. I don't know if she was sick. 1060 01:00:21,307 --> 01:00:24,413 I don't know if she just needed to learn about affection. 1061 01:00:24,448 --> 01:00:27,416 I don't know what it was, but something wasn't right. 1062 01:00:27,451 --> 01:00:31,593 Like, she was emanating her feelings 1063 01:00:31,628 --> 01:00:35,424 about me very strongly. 1064 01:00:35,459 --> 01:00:39,290 "Don't come near me. I don't want anything to do with you." 1065 01:00:39,325 --> 01:00:43,294 But I also noticed she was obedient to the gray. 1066 01:00:43,329 --> 01:00:45,849 She never showed any expression on her face. 1067 01:00:45,883 --> 01:00:50,198 She stared at me and just telepathically let me know, 1068 01:00:50,232 --> 01:00:51,855 "I don't want anything to do with you." 1069 01:00:51,889 --> 01:00:55,686 And so, since it wasn't going the way that the gray wanted it to go, 1070 01:00:55,721 --> 01:00:57,826 I was taken back home. 1071 01:00:58,516 --> 01:01:00,587 And I've never seen her since. 1072 01:01:00,622 --> 01:01:02,210 And I don't know if... 1073 01:01:04,039 --> 01:01:05,903 [VOICE SHAKING] Do they lie? 1074 01:01:05,938 --> 01:01:08,285 You know? Is it a lie? 1075 01:01:08,319 --> 01:01:11,322 Is it possible that that wasn't mine? 1076 01:01:12,082 --> 01:01:14,463 You know, I don't know. 1077 01:01:14,498 --> 01:01:18,502 And if so, why would God allow that? 1078 01:01:18,536 --> 01:01:22,333 It's just hard, you know. You don't know what happened. 1079 01:01:22,368 --> 01:01:23,714 LESLIE: And then they explained to me, 1080 01:01:23,749 --> 01:01:26,890 "We've done this before, we're gonna do this again." 1081 01:01:26,924 --> 01:01:29,858 And I go, what do you mean they've done this before? 1082 01:01:29,893 --> 01:01:32,896 And then they bring this little girl in the room. 1083 01:01:32,930 --> 01:01:38,315 She looked to me to be roughly four or five years old. 1084 01:01:38,349 --> 01:01:40,282 She had very thin blond hair. 1085 01:01:40,317 --> 01:01:42,250 Like parted in the middle, long to about shoulder-length. 1086 01:01:42,284 --> 01:01:46,116 Kind of scraggly. Very thin blond hair. 1087 01:01:46,150 --> 01:01:48,325 And 'cause I looked right at her, 1088 01:01:48,359 --> 01:01:50,292 just like I'm looking at you, and then I went, 1089 01:01:50,327 --> 01:01:53,468 like, I don't want to look like I'm staring. 1090 01:01:53,502 --> 01:01:55,850 And they immediately took her out of the room 1091 01:01:55,884 --> 01:01:57,714 and they took her past me out, 1092 01:01:57,748 --> 01:02:00,475 'cause I'm just inside the doorway, they took her past me out the door. 1093 01:02:00,509 --> 01:02:02,339 I kind of stepped back into the hallway. 1094 01:02:02,373 --> 01:02:03,892 They take her down the hallway 1095 01:02:03,927 --> 01:02:06,101 and I go... Uh... Uh... 1096 01:02:06,136 --> 01:02:08,276 And I was like frozen. I mean, not... 1097 01:02:08,310 --> 01:02:10,485 They didn't do anything to me, I was just in shock. 1098 01:02:10,519 --> 01:02:13,591 And I wanted to say, "Wait, bring her back." 1099 01:02:14,731 --> 01:02:19,494 Ever since then, I had extreme guilt 1100 01:02:19,528 --> 01:02:21,185 that I turned away from my own child. 1101 01:02:21,220 --> 01:02:26,570 NARRATOR: A few decades later, Melinda had a chance to redeem herself. 1102 01:02:26,604 --> 01:02:29,021 Walking in like as if there was a hallway or something out there 1103 01:02:29,055 --> 01:02:34,267 in this door are these grays and then, with them is this adult hybrid. 1104 01:02:34,889 --> 01:02:37,098 And they have her stand there. 1105 01:02:37,132 --> 01:02:38,685 And I looked at her, and I'm like, "Whoa!" 1106 01:02:38,720 --> 01:02:42,344 Now, bizarre looking, but beautiful. 1107 01:02:42,379 --> 01:02:46,901 Very thin blond hair, big forehead, little chin. 1108 01:02:46,935 --> 01:02:48,730 Would not pass for human, 1109 01:02:49,317 --> 01:02:51,112 but yet human enough. 1110 01:02:51,146 --> 01:02:53,977 And I remember thinking, "Is this her?" 1111 01:02:54,011 --> 01:02:57,325 And then the grays right next to me went to introduce her, 1112 01:02:57,359 --> 01:03:00,224 like, "This is..." kind of a thing. 1113 01:03:00,915 --> 01:03:02,571 And they were like, "Oh!" 1114 01:03:02,606 --> 01:03:05,229 Whether it was the look on my face, or... It's all telepathy with them anyways. 1115 01:03:05,264 --> 01:03:08,094 They were like, "Oh, you know who this is?" 1116 01:03:08,129 --> 01:03:10,683 I said out loud to her, "I'm sorry." 1117 01:03:11,477 --> 01:03:12,961 I said, "I love you." 1118 01:03:12,996 --> 01:03:14,756 Sorry. [CHUCKLES] 1119 01:03:14,791 --> 01:03:17,034 I didn't think this would be happening. Sorry. 1120 01:03:17,069 --> 01:03:18,864 I thought... [CHUCKLING SOFTLY] 1121 01:03:19,623 --> 01:03:21,625 Sorry. Just emotional. Sorry. 1122 01:03:23,213 --> 01:03:25,353 I just... I said to her... 1123 01:03:25,387 --> 01:03:27,251 I mean, I had this moment to 1124 01:03:28,494 --> 01:03:30,807 apologize from all those years from 1125 01:03:31,738 --> 01:03:37,744 25 years of, 24 years of saying I turned away. 1126 01:03:40,161 --> 01:03:43,820 [NARRATOR READING] 1127 01:03:58,558 --> 01:04:02,010 Common things that you see when you're listening to some of these stories 1128 01:04:02,045 --> 01:04:07,188 is the sincerity and the love that they had already 1129 01:04:07,222 --> 01:04:09,328 that is, um, now taken. 1130 01:04:09,362 --> 01:04:10,812 There is a loss. 1131 01:04:10,847 --> 01:04:13,677 Sometimes people claim that they carried a baby to term 1132 01:04:13,711 --> 01:04:15,403 and then the baby disappeared 1133 01:04:15,437 --> 01:04:18,613 seemed to be people with emotional problems at times. 1134 01:04:18,647 --> 01:04:20,408 But, if that really happened, 1135 01:04:20,442 --> 01:04:23,066 wouldn't someone be experiencing emotional problems? 1136 01:04:23,100 --> 01:04:26,345 That shouldn't disqualify us from looking into these sort of things. 1137 01:04:26,379 --> 01:04:29,279 Especially if there is any physical evidence. 1138 01:04:29,313 --> 01:04:33,766 Certainly if you're talking about something that is seen as taboo or fringe, 1139 01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:38,736 then they're unfortunately not gonna be as forthcoming to help people. 1140 01:04:38,771 --> 01:04:40,669 First is you've had the experience. 1141 01:04:40,704 --> 01:04:43,017 "Am I losing my mind? What is going on?" 1142 01:04:43,051 --> 01:04:45,916 "Could this really be happening? What happened to me?" 1143 01:04:45,951 --> 01:04:48,574 Getting over the fear to allow yourself to remember. 1144 01:04:48,608 --> 01:04:50,679 And the trauma of the loneliness, the separation, 1145 01:04:50,714 --> 01:04:52,923 the feeling like you can't talk to anyone. 1146 01:04:52,958 --> 01:04:54,752 I mean, you're like traumatized twice. 1147 01:04:54,787 --> 01:04:58,342 Emotionally, physically, and to just make sense of it all. 1148 01:04:58,377 --> 01:05:01,725 'Cause, at this point, my life is utter chaos. 1149 01:05:01,759 --> 01:05:04,797 I was petrified. 1150 01:05:04,831 --> 01:05:06,523 Petrified, in fear. 1151 01:05:06,557 --> 01:05:10,803 I tried to scream. I tried to yell out for my husband. 1152 01:05:10,837 --> 01:05:14,427 I don't know how long I've sat there frozen. 1153 01:05:14,462 --> 01:05:18,776 'Cause it-it looked at me, and then it-it leaned back. 1154 01:05:18,811 --> 01:05:21,883 And I was scared it was right behind that wall, 1155 01:05:21,918 --> 01:05:26,819 and I had to go walk right past it to get to my bedroom where my husband was. 1156 01:05:26,853 --> 01:05:31,755 I wasn't ashamed or embarrassed. I was just too 1157 01:05:32,721 --> 01:05:37,416 emotionally shocked by the visions, 1158 01:05:37,450 --> 01:05:39,970 by the clarity of the things that 1159 01:05:40,005 --> 01:05:43,732 not only did I see, but I felt like they were happening again. 1160 01:05:43,767 --> 01:05:46,873 Now that I know that the being was 1161 01:05:47,598 --> 01:05:49,635 um, an aggressive being, 1162 01:05:49,669 --> 01:05:52,534 that it was more of a rape. 1163 01:05:52,569 --> 01:05:54,467 I couldn't even talk about it with him. 1164 01:05:54,502 --> 01:05:56,435 I had to wait a few days to let him hear the audio, 1165 01:05:56,469 --> 01:05:58,368 'cause I couldn't talk about it. 1166 01:05:58,402 --> 01:06:03,545 You want to do everything you possibly can to shove it in a box, to explain it away. 1167 01:06:03,580 --> 01:06:06,065 To make yourself feel better that 1168 01:06:06,100 --> 01:06:09,862 without your knowledge, nor your permission 1169 01:06:09,896 --> 01:06:12,969 somebody has used your body and your DNA 1170 01:06:13,003 --> 01:06:15,937 for their benefit, for their agenda. 1171 01:06:15,972 --> 01:06:20,183 All of this is happening without their agreement, 1172 01:06:20,217 --> 01:06:21,770 without their permission. 1173 01:06:21,805 --> 01:06:27,673 And this is a very important aspect of the whole phenomenon. 1174 01:06:27,707 --> 01:06:29,364 They knew that I wasn't gonna remember, 1175 01:06:29,399 --> 01:06:31,746 because they were gonna work me over with drugs, 1176 01:06:32,229 --> 01:06:34,783 and rape, and... 1177 01:06:35,888 --> 01:06:37,131 And... 1178 01:06:39,064 --> 01:06:43,206 Just a lot of really, uh, difficult things. 1179 01:06:44,241 --> 01:06:46,416 You know, really terrifying things. 1180 01:06:46,450 --> 01:06:47,796 INTERVIEWER: You mentioned the word "rape." 1181 01:06:47,831 --> 01:06:50,558 -That's a very powerful word. -Yeah. 1182 01:06:50,592 --> 01:06:53,319 -Is that really what you felt? -Oh, yeah. 1183 01:06:53,354 --> 01:06:59,394 Absolutely. Being held down, you have this non-human in your face, 1184 01:06:59,429 --> 01:07:02,432 it had claws and it hurt. 1185 01:07:02,466 --> 01:07:08,576 It was definitely something that was not wanted or willed for. 1186 01:07:08,610 --> 01:07:12,511 They were each physical. They were all different. 1187 01:07:13,098 --> 01:07:14,858 Um... 1188 01:07:14,892 --> 01:07:19,863 Sometimes in a sterile setting like an OR. 1189 01:07:19,897 --> 01:07:24,661 And then unfortunately, there was times of, I guess you would say 1190 01:07:25,248 --> 01:07:28,113 it was more of a... Um... 1191 01:07:29,631 --> 01:07:32,531 very public... 1192 01:07:35,430 --> 01:07:39,952 Uh, I would call it a rape again, where there was humans. 1193 01:07:39,986 --> 01:07:45,164 I could see human faces along with different species of 1194 01:07:46,269 --> 01:07:48,202 aliens or others. 1195 01:07:48,236 --> 01:07:52,068 They were all in a big circle and watching 1196 01:07:52,102 --> 01:07:54,000 very silently. 1197 01:07:54,035 --> 01:07:59,834 There was different settings, different times. 1198 01:07:59,868 --> 01:08:03,009 I've since really delved into that 1199 01:08:03,044 --> 01:08:05,874 to try to figure out why do they have people watching. 1200 01:08:05,909 --> 01:08:08,705 I think it was to increase the level of trauma for me. 1201 01:08:09,326 --> 01:08:10,948 And, uh... 1202 01:08:10,983 --> 01:08:13,261 And I think some of the people there watching 1203 01:08:13,296 --> 01:08:15,677 didn't want to be there watching. 1204 01:08:15,712 --> 01:08:18,749 But they may have been scientists working on things 1205 01:08:18,784 --> 01:08:22,960 and they may have been forced to watch that 1206 01:08:22,995 --> 01:08:26,585 to know what would happen to their wives or their daughters 1207 01:08:26,619 --> 01:08:29,139 if they ever talked about what they were working on. 1208 01:08:29,174 --> 01:08:31,555 The weird thing is I couldn't close my eyes. 1209 01:08:31,590 --> 01:08:37,043 It was having to physically have your eyes open, 1210 01:08:37,078 --> 01:08:38,735 see this being, 1211 01:08:39,287 --> 01:08:40,771 um... 1212 01:08:40,806 --> 01:08:43,602 feel it, hear it, smell it. 1213 01:08:44,050 --> 01:08:47,399 Very, very real. 1214 01:08:47,433 --> 01:08:52,749 Unfortunately, part of this process also left me with fear. 1215 01:08:53,612 --> 01:08:57,650 Fear of rejection, fear of ridicule. 1216 01:08:58,272 --> 01:09:00,515 Um... Fear of judgment. 1217 01:09:00,550 --> 01:09:03,587 But through the process it was 1218 01:09:03,622 --> 01:09:08,937 my own judgement that caused probably the most chaos in my life. 1219 01:09:08,972 --> 01:09:13,597 But the initial reaction is often one of trauma. 1220 01:09:13,632 --> 01:09:15,668 Because you're dealing with the unknown. 1221 01:09:15,703 --> 01:09:19,810 You can be afraid of it. You can be uncertain and have self-doubt. 1222 01:09:19,845 --> 01:09:24,643 And you might realize you're having post-traumatic stress disorder. 1223 01:09:24,677 --> 01:09:28,474 SMITH: PTSD is all the same symptoms. 1224 01:09:28,509 --> 01:09:32,996 When we all suffer a trauma, we suffer the same symptoms. 1225 01:09:33,030 --> 01:09:36,206 And UFO abduction is no different. 1226 01:09:36,241 --> 01:09:38,001 I-It's trauma. 1227 01:09:38,035 --> 01:09:40,141 And then you have to deal with trauma all over again, 1228 01:09:40,176 --> 01:09:43,248 because then comes the fear of what is anyone else gonna say? 1229 01:09:43,282 --> 01:09:45,560 Do I tell my spouse? My partner? 1230 01:09:45,595 --> 01:09:47,528 Do I tell my parents? Do I... You know. 1231 01:09:47,562 --> 01:09:48,908 And what are they gonna say? 1232 01:09:48,943 --> 01:09:52,774 And heaven forbid that person be negative towards you, 1233 01:09:52,809 --> 01:09:55,191 you're traumatized all over again. 1234 01:09:56,882 --> 01:09:59,402 NARRATOR: And a sense of growing isolation 1235 01:09:59,436 --> 01:10:03,440 only intensifies the trauma for experiencers. 1236 01:10:03,475 --> 01:10:06,754 INTERVIEWER: I know this is hard to articulate, but how do you describe 1237 01:10:06,788 --> 01:10:09,170 what it's like to be someone who's had 1238 01:10:09,205 --> 01:10:13,657 tremendous extraordinary experiences that no one believes? 1239 01:10:15,072 --> 01:10:18,075 When you're in a crowd of people, 1240 01:10:19,594 --> 01:10:22,390 and you just stand there 1241 01:10:23,702 --> 01:10:28,603 and it's like you're not moving, but everybody else is, 1242 01:10:28,638 --> 01:10:30,743 and the camera's kind of spinning around, 1243 01:10:30,778 --> 01:10:32,676 so you have this dizzy spinning feeling. 1244 01:10:32,711 --> 01:10:34,471 It's like that. It's like that. 1245 01:10:34,506 --> 01:10:37,854 It's like I'm standing still and the world is moving around me. 1246 01:10:37,888 --> 01:10:40,822 I felt it was important for me 1247 01:10:40,857 --> 01:10:45,896 to tell as many people as I possibly could. 1248 01:10:45,931 --> 01:10:47,657 The interesting thing was, 1249 01:10:47,691 --> 01:10:51,247 as I witnessed this, I'm excited, I'm terrified, 1250 01:10:51,281 --> 01:10:53,456 I'm going through all of these emotions, 1251 01:10:53,490 --> 01:10:56,321 and I'm telling people, "Hey! Oh, my God, I'm so excited. 1252 01:10:56,355 --> 01:10:58,978 "You're not gonna believe this." I'm getting... 1253 01:10:59,013 --> 01:11:03,259 "Bullshit." And I'm like, "Bullshit"? Dude! 1254 01:11:03,293 --> 01:11:06,331 At that moment I realized I got a problem here. 1255 01:11:06,365 --> 01:11:10,852 I got a serious problem here, and that is, no one's gonna believe it. 1256 01:11:10,887 --> 01:11:13,234 Constantly, as an abductee, you wonder, 1257 01:11:13,269 --> 01:11:15,305 "Am I choosing to see this in a positive way, 1258 01:11:15,340 --> 01:11:17,445 "'cause I'm forced to have to deal with it and live with it 1259 01:11:17,480 --> 01:11:18,929 "and I have to integrate my life 1260 01:11:18,964 --> 01:11:20,862 "and that's how I've come to terms with it." 1261 01:11:20,897 --> 01:11:23,382 Or is this the way it really is? 1262 01:11:23,417 --> 01:11:25,902 And I constantly battle with that. 1263 01:11:25,936 --> 01:11:28,318 I didn't even want to research more than 1264 01:11:28,353 --> 01:11:30,562 just looking superficially at what happened, 1265 01:11:30,596 --> 01:11:32,667 because I was like, "What's the point?" 1266 01:11:32,702 --> 01:11:34,669 Like, "Okay, it happens to people." 1267 01:11:34,704 --> 01:11:35,981 "Maybe it happened to me." 1268 01:11:36,015 --> 01:11:38,880 Oh, well, that's fine. Let's just keep going. 1269 01:11:38,915 --> 01:11:41,573 But it was a pain. It was internal struggle inside. 1270 01:11:41,607 --> 01:11:44,921 It's like living two lives, being two different people. 1271 01:11:44,955 --> 01:11:49,201 The two life split. I call it Life A and Life B, right. 1272 01:11:49,235 --> 01:11:55,587 And at Life A, you have Rob, which now is Rob the painter. 1273 01:11:55,621 --> 01:11:59,315 And Rob the painter, he goes to work, 1274 01:11:59,349 --> 01:12:01,351 he pays his bills, 1275 01:12:01,386 --> 01:12:04,423 hangs out with his buds, you know. 1276 01:12:04,458 --> 01:12:06,183 He does things that people do. 1277 01:12:06,218 --> 01:12:10,740 Life B is what I could say my true self, 1278 01:12:10,774 --> 01:12:14,640 'cause I'm interacting with you guys and I'm more free and more open. 1279 01:12:14,675 --> 01:12:19,369 GERALDINE: Not talking about it doesn't help you integrate with the experience 1280 01:12:19,404 --> 01:12:22,338 and suppressing a tremendous amount of emotion. 1281 01:12:23,960 --> 01:12:28,136 I would feel torn and there were times when I would break down 1282 01:12:28,171 --> 01:12:29,862 and I would cry about these things, 1283 01:12:29,897 --> 01:12:32,071 because I couldn't express myself and talk about them. 1284 01:12:32,106 --> 01:12:36,110 There was nobody that could understand what I was going through. 1285 01:12:36,144 --> 01:12:39,355 I realized at the moment I was going to tell him 1286 01:12:39,389 --> 01:12:40,459 how it sounded. 1287 01:12:40,494 --> 01:12:43,600 And I thought, "Oh, my God. what am I gonna say?" 1288 01:12:43,635 --> 01:12:46,396 I saw, and what am I gonna say happened 1289 01:12:46,431 --> 01:12:49,399 and are the kids okay? And, you know... 1290 01:12:49,434 --> 01:12:50,642 It just sounded... 1291 01:12:50,676 --> 01:12:53,127 I mean, I was just so scared and petrified. 1292 01:12:53,161 --> 01:12:54,922 And I knew it sounded crazy. 1293 01:12:54,956 --> 01:12:59,823 I knew when I was saying it out loud to him that it didn't sound believable. 1294 01:12:59,858 --> 01:13:02,378 But I also knew what had just happened. 1295 01:13:02,412 --> 01:13:07,106 So it was very hard to make him understand what I had just seen. 1296 01:13:07,141 --> 01:13:09,419 I didn't know what to do. And so I said, 1297 01:13:09,454 --> 01:13:13,078 "Please. You have to... Do you believe me? Do you believe me?" 1298 01:13:13,112 --> 01:13:15,736 And he said, "I believe that you believe it." 1299 01:13:15,770 --> 01:13:21,397 You feel alone. You feel as though there's absolutely nobody else in the world 1300 01:13:21,431 --> 01:13:23,088 that could understand. 1301 01:13:23,122 --> 01:13:27,126 And you try and explain and you realize you don't have the language to explain. 1302 01:13:27,161 --> 01:13:28,921 You don't even know what's going on. 1303 01:13:28,956 --> 01:13:32,062 How can somebody else commiserate with you? 1304 01:13:32,442 --> 01:13:33,719 They can't. 1305 01:13:33,754 --> 01:13:38,448 And then there's the aspect of now they're worried about me. 1306 01:13:38,483 --> 01:13:40,795 Now they see me struggling. 1307 01:13:40,830 --> 01:13:44,868 Now they're worried about my mental capacities. 1308 01:13:44,903 --> 01:13:49,045 They're worried about my emotional stability. 1309 01:13:49,079 --> 01:13:50,702 And they should be. 1310 01:13:50,736 --> 01:13:54,430 'Cause I'm emotionally all over the place. I'm mentally all over the place. 1311 01:13:55,189 --> 01:13:57,087 I'm not okay, but I'm good. 1312 01:13:57,122 --> 01:13:58,986 It's become an intimate part of my life. 1313 01:13:59,020 --> 01:14:02,023 I'm fully integrated into this now. 1314 01:14:03,231 --> 01:14:06,787 Does that mean technically I don't exist to other people, 1315 01:14:06,821 --> 01:14:11,308 'cause I exist outside of the realm of what they believe is possible. 1316 01:14:11,343 --> 01:14:14,242 LESLIE: It is difficult, but... 1317 01:14:14,277 --> 01:14:16,486 So, yes, not everyone needs to go public by any means. 1318 01:14:16,521 --> 01:14:19,420 But recall your memories. Get some support. 1319 01:14:19,455 --> 01:14:21,698 Meet some other people you can talk to. 1320 01:14:21,733 --> 01:14:23,320 You're not alone. 1321 01:14:26,082 --> 01:14:29,637 [NARRATOR READING] 1322 01:14:43,548 --> 01:14:45,964 Once you start to remember some experiences, 1323 01:14:45,998 --> 01:14:48,207 once you explore... 1324 01:14:48,242 --> 01:14:50,865 So, if you think you've had experiences, 1325 01:14:50,900 --> 01:14:54,938 first is gather your evidence, I'm always telling people this. 1326 01:14:54,973 --> 01:14:58,528 Gather things like, draw your experiences. 1327 01:14:58,563 --> 01:15:01,566 Take photos of bruises and marks and scars, 1328 01:15:01,600 --> 01:15:04,569 scoop marks and other scars that appear overnight. 1329 01:15:04,603 --> 01:15:08,745 Needle marks, you know... Take pictures, because later you'll have those pictures. 1330 01:15:08,780 --> 01:15:13,509 Even if you never show anyone else, it shows you that that was real. 1331 01:15:13,543 --> 01:15:16,684 And then work with a hypnotherapist to recall memory. 1332 01:15:16,719 --> 01:15:20,585 If you have little bits and pieces, or like you were saying, screen memories 1333 01:15:20,619 --> 01:15:24,140 then work with someone, get that recalled. 1334 01:15:24,174 --> 01:15:26,245 And when you look at a number of cases 1335 01:15:26,280 --> 01:15:28,972 that have been extracted through hypnotic regression, 1336 01:15:29,007 --> 01:15:33,805 which, okay, sometimes people will question that as a methodology. 1337 01:15:33,839 --> 01:15:35,738 But nonetheless, 1338 01:15:36,911 --> 01:15:39,293 there are a lot of women who will remember 1339 01:15:39,327 --> 01:15:42,365 the embryo or fetus being taken out of them. 1340 01:15:42,399 --> 01:15:49,061 Many of the people who've come to me wonder, "Why me? 1341 01:15:49,096 --> 01:15:52,237 "Why are these unusual things happening to me? 1342 01:15:52,271 --> 01:15:54,308 "I didn't ask for this. 1343 01:15:54,342 --> 01:15:56,172 "I didn't give my permission." 1344 01:15:56,206 --> 01:16:00,970 The most important thing is that I tell 'em is to get the information out. 1345 01:16:01,004 --> 01:16:03,006 Bring it forward, verbalize it. 1346 01:16:03,041 --> 01:16:06,251 Whatever's in there, if it needs to come out 1347 01:16:06,285 --> 01:16:07,908 to make this world a better place, 1348 01:16:07,942 --> 01:16:10,600 then I guess I gotta do the deal. 1349 01:16:10,635 --> 01:16:12,119 I gotta pursue it. 1350 01:16:12,153 --> 01:16:17,400 They are so ready to know, to go through the process, 1351 01:16:17,434 --> 01:16:22,232 'cause they're so tired of all the years of wondering 1352 01:16:22,267 --> 01:16:25,581 and having the recurring dreams. 1353 01:16:26,651 --> 01:16:30,482 Having the fear of what they don't know. 1354 01:16:30,516 --> 01:16:35,211 'Cause suppressing that is not gonna help them with the healing process. 1355 01:16:35,245 --> 01:16:40,526 MALLOY: Brian is the most important person alive to me on this journey. 1356 01:16:40,561 --> 01:16:42,356 He's my rock. 1357 01:16:42,390 --> 01:16:46,463 Not only is it comforting, but it's acceptance, 1358 01:16:46,498 --> 01:16:49,812 it's, "We are gonna get through this together." 1359 01:16:49,846 --> 01:16:51,917 "We are gonna make it together." 1360 01:16:51,952 --> 01:16:54,748 There was an article he read on MSN 1361 01:16:54,782 --> 01:16:59,649 of a young man that went to a hypnotherapist in LA. 1362 01:16:59,684 --> 01:17:04,378 that helped him to place the nightmares into place, 1363 01:17:04,412 --> 01:17:09,348 the events that were missing are traumatizing to him. 1364 01:17:09,383 --> 01:17:11,903 That article on MSN had 1365 01:17:11,937 --> 01:17:14,664 really broke the ice for him. 1366 01:17:14,699 --> 01:17:18,219 "My wife needs to talk to someone about these nightmares." 1367 01:17:18,254 --> 01:17:20,256 When someone contacts me for the first time, 1368 01:17:20,290 --> 01:17:23,466 I initially will send them information 1369 01:17:23,500 --> 01:17:27,366 about hypnosis and what it entails, 1370 01:17:27,401 --> 01:17:30,300 and about support group. 1371 01:17:30,335 --> 01:17:34,926 And that they must think about this, uh, carefully, 1372 01:17:34,960 --> 01:17:40,310 because once the information comes forward, we can't put it back. 1373 01:17:40,345 --> 01:17:45,177 You know, once the toothpaste is out of the tube, you can't shove it back in. 1374 01:17:45,212 --> 01:17:47,283 They send me their questionnaire, I review it. 1375 01:17:47,317 --> 01:17:49,457 They come in for their first session. 1376 01:17:49,492 --> 01:17:51,701 I schedule two hours for each person. 1377 01:17:51,736 --> 01:17:53,530 We sit and talk 1378 01:17:53,565 --> 01:17:57,949 about what's happened to them, and where they wanna start. 1379 01:17:57,983 --> 01:18:00,986 It begins to feel different. 1380 01:18:01,021 --> 01:18:05,301 It begins to feel more acceptable to them. 1381 01:18:05,335 --> 01:18:09,892 And that's one reason why I think it's very worthwhile 1382 01:18:09,926 --> 01:18:16,139 if a person is doing some work and recalling the details 1383 01:18:16,174 --> 01:18:19,418 of being part of this hybrid program, 1384 01:18:19,453 --> 01:18:24,009 and realizing more of the complete picture. 1385 01:18:24,044 --> 01:18:27,806 Now, with April, when I received her questionnaires, 1386 01:18:27,841 --> 01:18:29,083 red flags were going up. 1387 01:18:29,118 --> 01:18:32,708 "Okay," I thought, "Okay, this sounds likes she-she's had 1388 01:18:33,639 --> 01:18:36,608 "a tremendous amount of-of miscarriages." 1389 01:18:36,642 --> 01:18:38,990 When I see that from a questionnaire, 1390 01:18:39,024 --> 01:18:43,028 I know this is gonna be a very emotional session. 1391 01:18:43,063 --> 01:18:44,927 MALLOY: I was definitely a skeptic. 1392 01:18:44,961 --> 01:18:49,310 I did not believe that the mind would be able to remember anything from the past, 1393 01:18:49,345 --> 01:18:53,176 or any type of trauma, any type of unknown. 1394 01:18:53,211 --> 01:18:56,628 Of course, as everybody will tell, "I don't think I can be hypnotized." 1395 01:18:56,662 --> 01:19:00,770 And I try to relax them and say, "Everybody can." 1396 01:19:00,805 --> 01:19:05,430 "It's just a matter of you deciding to allow me to be your facilitator." 1397 01:19:05,464 --> 01:19:08,329 In the very beginning, Yvonne and I, 1398 01:19:08,364 --> 01:19:10,055 privately, just me and her talked. 1399 01:19:10,090 --> 01:19:14,439 The very beginning of what was going on in my life at the time. 1400 01:19:14,473 --> 01:19:16,406 She kind of got to know me. 1401 01:19:16,441 --> 01:19:19,616 Before we even go in hypnosis, I tell 'em, 1402 01:19:19,651 --> 01:19:22,654 "You're gonna relive what happened. 1403 01:19:22,688 --> 01:19:26,520 "But I want you to just tell me what's going on, 1404 01:19:26,554 --> 01:19:31,249 "and I will use different techniques that you don't have to experience 1405 01:19:31,283 --> 01:19:33,803 "the pain or the fear. 1406 01:19:33,838 --> 01:19:37,324 "But you can always tell me, 'I wanna stop.' 1407 01:19:37,358 --> 01:19:39,947 "And I'll always ask you, 'Do you wanna go on?'" 1408 01:19:39,982 --> 01:19:41,328 And then she walked me through. 1409 01:19:41,362 --> 01:19:44,020 "April, I want you to lay down. I want you to relax. 1410 01:19:44,055 --> 01:19:45,366 "Pick a happy thought. 1411 01:19:45,401 --> 01:19:48,266 "Happy place, relaxing place." 1412 01:19:48,300 --> 01:19:50,371 And she walked me through the steps. 1413 01:19:50,406 --> 01:19:55,652 Her voice was very tranquil. It was very relaxing. 1414 01:19:55,687 --> 01:19:59,346 Before I knew it, I was talking with my eyes shut, 1415 01:19:59,380 --> 01:20:01,589 and I felt so heavy. 1416 01:20:01,624 --> 01:20:07,699 I felt like there was a warm blanket around me. I felt secure. 1417 01:20:07,733 --> 01:20:11,599 And she just slowly started taking me to my happy place. 1418 01:20:11,634 --> 01:20:13,878 Walking me down these steps, 1419 01:20:13,912 --> 01:20:17,467 counting backwards, 15, 14... 1420 01:20:17,502 --> 01:20:21,471 And then, we started talking about the things I would see. 1421 01:20:21,506 --> 01:20:23,646 Things I would hear. 1422 01:20:23,680 --> 01:20:25,717 And the more and more she spoke to me, 1423 01:20:25,751 --> 01:20:30,446 the more and more my mind began activating the nightmares. 1424 01:20:30,480 --> 01:20:35,071 I would hear and see, and even smell 1425 01:20:35,106 --> 01:20:40,525 some of the things that I had previously had night terrors about. 1426 01:20:40,559 --> 01:20:42,561 After the session was over, 1427 01:20:42,596 --> 01:20:45,875 April was, of course, in total disbelief 1428 01:20:45,910 --> 01:20:50,604 that she had experienced what she did in hypnosis. 1429 01:20:50,638 --> 01:20:52,295 They're gonna remember more, 1430 01:20:52,330 --> 01:20:55,333 'cause whatever information is important to them, 1431 01:20:55,367 --> 01:20:57,369 they're gonna remember more. 1432 01:20:57,404 --> 01:21:00,925 NARRATOR: Regression therapy has become popular within the UFO experiencer world, 1433 01:21:00,959 --> 01:21:05,136 because it helps abductees better understand what may have happened. 1434 01:21:05,170 --> 01:21:08,139 Connecting with others who have had similar experiences 1435 01:21:08,173 --> 01:21:09,934 is critically important, too. 1436 01:21:10,693 --> 01:21:11,901 It is a community of people. 1437 01:21:11,936 --> 01:21:14,939 Everyone knows each other, kind of, sort of. 1438 01:21:14,973 --> 01:21:17,044 But the thing that's important here is that 1439 01:21:17,079 --> 01:21:20,530 when you talk about a particular group of people 1440 01:21:20,565 --> 01:21:21,980 that are watching a particular movie, 1441 01:21:22,015 --> 01:21:23,913 and it makes them feel like they can now come clean 1442 01:21:23,948 --> 01:21:26,433 with something that they've been bothered by, 1443 01:21:27,468 --> 01:21:31,265 that is the dialog that we want. 1444 01:21:31,300 --> 01:21:33,647 But you've got to understand, and you do, 1445 01:21:33,681 --> 01:21:36,236 that along with that comes the other people 1446 01:21:36,270 --> 01:21:41,517 that see an opportunity to become important. 1447 01:21:41,551 --> 01:21:44,554 And they do it to become important. They do it to make money. 1448 01:21:44,589 --> 01:21:46,142 They do it for all these other reasons. 1449 01:21:46,177 --> 01:21:47,730 They do it for all the human reasons. 1450 01:21:47,764 --> 01:21:51,216 And that's something that again, signal and noise. 1451 01:21:51,251 --> 01:21:55,669 The signal is the gem, the noise is the stuff we wanna get out. 1452 01:21:55,703 --> 01:21:58,568 LESLIE: Hearing other people's accounts will make you go, 1453 01:21:58,603 --> 01:22:00,777 "Okay, I'm not crazy. I'm not alone." 1454 01:22:00,812 --> 01:22:03,815 And those other people can be extremely supportive. 1455 01:22:03,849 --> 01:22:06,645 Especially if they're an abductee that's lived with it for a while. 1456 01:22:06,680 --> 01:22:10,235 They've gone through all those emotional highs and lows, 1457 01:22:10,270 --> 01:22:12,548 and those moments of doubt and confusion 1458 01:22:12,582 --> 01:22:14,032 and all those things that can help you. 1459 01:22:14,067 --> 01:22:17,863 The very first time I went to a "support group," 1460 01:22:17,898 --> 01:22:22,661 the idea that I wasn't alone and I wasn't crazy, was incredible. 1461 01:22:22,696 --> 01:22:24,698 And that we were there supporting each other, 1462 01:22:24,732 --> 01:22:26,286 because something happened, 1463 01:22:26,320 --> 01:22:30,083 and we all believe that in some way we were contacted or abducted. 1464 01:22:30,117 --> 01:22:32,706 The next step of me accepting that it was real 1465 01:22:32,740 --> 01:22:36,296 was speaking to the people that were near me when it happened. 1466 01:22:36,330 --> 01:22:39,747 And having them validate. "Yep. That happened." 1467 01:22:39,782 --> 01:22:41,542 It's the most important thing ever. 1468 01:22:41,577 --> 01:22:42,819 It's the most important thing ever. 1469 01:22:42,854 --> 01:22:45,581 You have to search out others. You have to. 1470 01:22:45,615 --> 01:22:49,447 If you're going through something, reach out. 1471 01:22:49,481 --> 01:22:51,587 NARRATOR: Dana wasn't alone in her experiences. 1472 01:22:51,621 --> 01:22:54,659 More than 20 years later, members of her community 1473 01:22:54,693 --> 01:22:57,455 still get together to discuss what happened. 1474 01:22:57,489 --> 01:22:59,940 Support group meets once a month. 1475 01:22:59,975 --> 01:23:03,564 And, um, there's probably 30 people that come and go. 1476 01:23:03,599 --> 01:23:06,429 Not everybody comes to every single meeting. 1477 01:23:06,464 --> 01:23:09,191 But there's a lot of people who don't come to the support group 1478 01:23:09,225 --> 01:23:13,885 that have had experiences that I've spoken with, 1479 01:23:13,919 --> 01:23:16,232 and that network could be as large as 60. 1480 01:23:16,267 --> 01:23:19,684 The most important thing is to talk about it and express yourself. 1481 01:23:19,718 --> 01:23:22,514 And the more that we talk about it, you're doing two things. 1482 01:23:22,549 --> 01:23:26,277 Energetically you're raising the vibration in the collective consciousness, 1483 01:23:26,311 --> 01:23:28,658 because now whoever is listening to you 1484 01:23:28,693 --> 01:23:32,421 is opening, is planting a seed of new information. 1485 01:23:32,455 --> 01:23:35,010 Secondly, you're helping yourself energetically 1486 01:23:35,044 --> 01:23:37,702 because now you're no longer containing that energy. 1487 01:23:37,736 --> 01:23:41,292 Any kind of emotion, feelings, thoughts that is suppressed 1488 01:23:41,326 --> 01:23:44,674 causes illness and stagnation of energy. 1489 01:23:44,709 --> 01:23:46,193 Get it out, one way or another. 1490 01:23:46,228 --> 01:23:48,954 Whether it's to your neighbor, your friend, it doesn't matter. 1491 01:23:48,989 --> 01:23:51,716 The more we talk about this, with whoever we talk about it, 1492 01:23:51,750 --> 01:23:54,132 it's like we're planting the seed in like a domino effect. 1493 01:23:54,167 --> 01:23:58,861 More people will at least have heard it once in their lifetime. 1494 01:23:58,895 --> 01:24:00,966 And that's all we need sometimes. 1495 01:24:01,001 --> 01:24:07,283 And that knowledge, that support that I got from that contact group 1496 01:24:07,318 --> 01:24:08,664 is probably the greatest gift. 1497 01:24:08,698 --> 01:24:11,770 And so I can say today, "Yes, 1498 01:24:11,805 --> 01:24:16,120 "I am a lonely one, but I'm not the only one." 1499 01:24:16,154 --> 01:24:20,848 It's anyone's guess how big this phenomenon really is, 1500 01:24:20,883 --> 01:24:22,988 considering all the other investigators that 1501 01:24:23,023 --> 01:24:26,440 probably have had as many phone calls and interactions as I have. 1502 01:24:26,475 --> 01:24:28,373 Now, having been in this field for a long time, 1503 01:24:28,408 --> 01:24:32,446 uncovered the stories, helped run conferences and stuff like this, 1504 01:24:32,481 --> 01:24:34,828 I mean, I helped run the UFO Congress. 1505 01:24:34,862 --> 01:24:39,108 And we have at the congress alone, you know, 1506 01:24:39,143 --> 01:24:41,938 a huge percentage of the people that come to that conference, 1507 01:24:41,973 --> 01:24:45,114 come to these experiencer meetings 1508 01:24:45,149 --> 01:24:47,737 where people come and share their experiences. 1509 01:24:47,772 --> 01:24:51,016 In fact, it makes up a large percentage of the people. 1510 01:24:51,051 --> 01:24:53,053 And if there are thousands of people sharing 1511 01:24:53,088 --> 01:24:57,506 that they have these sort of experiences, and talk to others, 1512 01:24:57,540 --> 01:24:59,784 there's probably a number who believe that 1513 01:24:59,818 --> 01:25:02,097 and aren't sharing it with people. 1514 01:25:02,131 --> 01:25:04,720 So, the numbers, I think, are staggering. 1515 01:25:04,754 --> 01:25:07,516 That's why, you know, it deserves attention. 1516 01:25:07,550 --> 01:25:12,659 The patterns and the data are significant, and they have to be appreciated. 1517 01:25:12,693 --> 01:25:14,730 It doesn't mean that it's absolute fact, 1518 01:25:14,764 --> 01:25:17,560 and we go on to some ideology about interpreting it 1519 01:25:17,595 --> 01:25:22,703 and we get all hell-bent on going back in our boxes based on our own interpretation. 1520 01:25:22,738 --> 01:25:25,672 I think it's fair to appreciate the patterns and the data, 1521 01:25:25,706 --> 01:25:27,846 and let the patterns speak for themselves, 1522 01:25:27,881 --> 01:25:32,610 and let the human responses be mature and evolved 1523 01:25:32,644 --> 01:25:34,853 and responsible individually and collectively. 1524 01:25:34,888 --> 01:25:36,648 What else can we ask for? 1525 01:25:36,683 --> 01:25:39,617 D'ANTONIO: The wider your audience, the more noise you're gonna get. 1526 01:25:39,651 --> 01:25:41,998 But you're gonna get more signal, too. 1527 01:25:43,310 --> 01:25:46,313 And that signal, being louder, 1528 01:25:46,348 --> 01:25:49,282 maybe there'll be some qualifications or some characteristics 1529 01:25:49,316 --> 01:25:53,631 of that signal that'll make it more obvious to discern from the noise. 1530 01:25:53,665 --> 01:25:56,392 And guess what? We only need one. 1531 01:25:56,427 --> 01:25:58,843 We only need one good, solid signal. 1532 01:25:58,877 --> 01:26:01,880 That's it. Question answered. We can all go home. You know? 1533 01:26:01,915 --> 01:26:03,606 Right? But, until then, 1534 01:26:03,641 --> 01:26:05,298 we have to just keep doing what we do 1535 01:26:05,332 --> 01:26:10,026 and we have to keep trying to wade through all the data. 1536 01:26:10,061 --> 01:26:13,651 It's more than mountains. It's planetoids worth of data. 1537 01:26:13,685 --> 01:26:16,757 DOLAN: But the one thing we have is consciousness. 1538 01:26:16,792 --> 01:26:19,933 That's our secret weapon, 1539 01:26:19,967 --> 01:26:23,557 is this ability to break those boundaries. 1540 01:26:23,592 --> 01:26:26,802 To break the matrix. We can all do that. 1541 01:26:26,836 --> 01:26:29,494 That's actually something every single person can do, 1542 01:26:29,529 --> 01:26:33,222 is break those chains, those mental chains. 1543 01:26:35,638 --> 01:26:39,297 [NARRATOR READING] 1544 01:26:56,694 --> 01:26:58,282 [BIRDS CHIRPING] 1545 01:27:01,285 --> 01:27:04,909 D'ANTONIO: The elk being tagged by us don't get a choice. 1546 01:27:05,910 --> 01:27:08,499 And they get shot with tranquilizer darts. 1547 01:27:08,533 --> 01:27:12,675 They go, "What's happening?" And then, bam, they put this tag in their ear. 1548 01:27:12,710 --> 01:27:14,850 Well, you know, we're not giving them a choice. 1549 01:27:14,884 --> 01:27:18,578 And the aliens aren't giving many of us a choice perhaps, if they're doing that. 1550 01:27:18,612 --> 01:27:23,065 As we say, we're gonna pretend that's actually happening. It may very well be. 1551 01:27:23,099 --> 01:27:26,793 So that tells me that they don't consider us 1552 01:27:26,827 --> 01:27:29,036 any kind of elevated being. 1553 01:27:29,071 --> 01:27:31,936 It means that we are not considered 1554 01:27:33,558 --> 01:27:36,872 beings worth telling this to, 1555 01:27:36,906 --> 01:27:38,460 telling that they're being abducted. 1556 01:27:38,494 --> 01:27:40,979 It means that they don't, these beings that are doing the abducting, 1557 01:27:41,014 --> 01:27:44,293 don't have the same morality as we do. 1558 01:27:44,328 --> 01:27:48,953 We have got to remember that we're dealing with 1559 01:27:48,987 --> 01:27:52,646 probably the most significant event 1560 01:27:52,681 --> 01:27:55,442 that human beings could ever imagine. 1561 01:27:55,477 --> 01:27:57,893 It's the arrival, the presence, 1562 01:27:57,927 --> 01:28:01,379 of others who are so far advanced. 1563 01:28:01,414 --> 01:28:02,967 And they're here, and they're dealing with us, 1564 01:28:03,001 --> 01:28:04,693 and they've got their own agenda. 1565 01:28:04,727 --> 01:28:07,903 And the only way that we're really going to be able to make sense of it 1566 01:28:07,937 --> 01:28:09,732 is by working together. 1567 01:28:09,767 --> 01:28:11,424 By sharing information, 1568 01:28:11,458 --> 01:28:13,943 and learning and gaining strengths from each other, 1569 01:28:13,978 --> 01:28:16,394 and giving strength to each other as well. 1570 01:28:16,429 --> 01:28:18,154 More and more people are coming 1571 01:28:18,189 --> 01:28:22,435 who've had the extraterrestrial encounters. 1572 01:28:22,469 --> 01:28:25,748 But if you are wondering 1573 01:28:25,783 --> 01:28:29,407 what their special mission is... 1574 01:28:29,442 --> 01:28:30,822 And usually I'm finding out, 1575 01:28:30,857 --> 01:28:33,860 they're already doing quite a bit of that mission. 1576 01:28:33,894 --> 01:28:37,001 ROJAS: It's easy to say that, "I'm suppressed. 1577 01:28:37,035 --> 01:28:40,418 "I can't do this, because they won't let me." 1578 01:28:40,453 --> 01:28:43,870 It's easier to say that than to do the hard work 1579 01:28:43,904 --> 01:28:45,423 to make it happen. 1580 01:28:45,458 --> 01:28:50,221 And the people who do the hard work to make these things happen 1581 01:28:50,255 --> 01:28:54,225 are making these things happen. And that's what it takes. 1582 01:28:54,259 --> 01:28:57,849 The abductees that go public are risking that ridicule. 1583 01:28:57,884 --> 01:29:02,060 They're risking not only the person watching this, John Q. Public going, 1584 01:29:02,095 --> 01:29:04,442 "I don't believe it. It's hogwash. It's nonsense. No." 1585 01:29:04,477 --> 01:29:07,445 Or the science community... [MAKING CHILDLIKE SOUNDS] 1586 01:29:07,480 --> 01:29:09,171 They're risking their own family. 1587 01:29:09,205 --> 01:29:13,209 I know a medical doctor who lost his license over this subject. 1588 01:29:14,970 --> 01:29:16,247 Lost his being a medic... 1589 01:29:16,281 --> 01:29:18,491 He was an amazing medical doctor. Worked with kids. 1590 01:29:18,525 --> 01:29:19,871 Lost his licence. 1591 01:29:19,906 --> 01:29:23,392 I know an abductee who... I know multiple abductees 1592 01:29:23,427 --> 01:29:25,808 who've been divorced over this subject. 1593 01:29:25,843 --> 01:29:27,603 And I know one whose children... 1594 01:29:27,638 --> 01:29:30,468 When she went public, her children disowned her. 1595 01:29:32,228 --> 01:29:34,852 No, it's... Sorry I'm getting all emotional here. 1596 01:29:35,542 --> 01:29:37,372 But I tell you, man. 1597 01:29:37,406 --> 01:29:39,235 There's no reason to go public about this, 1598 01:29:39,270 --> 01:29:42,169 other than to help other people that have had it happen, 1599 01:29:42,204 --> 01:29:46,277 and try to convince a public that doesn't want to hear it 1600 01:29:46,311 --> 01:29:47,899 that this is real. 1601 01:29:47,934 --> 01:29:50,557 You guys, this may have everything to do with the future of the human race 1602 01:29:50,592 --> 01:29:52,317 and where we're going. 1603 01:29:52,352 --> 01:29:55,148 Educate yourself, be open-minded. 1604 01:29:55,873 --> 01:29:57,875 Read, go to a UFO conference. 1605 01:29:57,909 --> 01:30:01,085 See the researchers present the good evidence. 1606 01:30:01,119 --> 01:30:02,293 Make up your own mind. 1607 01:30:02,327 --> 01:30:06,193 Don't let anyone ever tell you how to think. 1608 01:30:06,228 --> 01:30:09,058 Make up your own mind about everything in life. 1609 01:30:09,093 --> 01:30:12,855 If you've got thousands of people that say this is an ongoing process, 1610 01:30:12,890 --> 01:30:15,030 they've been subject to it, 1611 01:30:15,064 --> 01:30:18,654 at what point do you say they're all lying or they're all telling the truth, 1612 01:30:18,689 --> 01:30:21,001 or some of them are lying and some of them are telling the truth? 1613 01:30:21,036 --> 01:30:23,279 I mean, where do you draw that line? 1614 01:30:23,314 --> 01:30:25,592 Well, unless it's happened to you, it's just a story. 1615 01:30:25,627 --> 01:30:29,941 If you experience it, it changes you to the core. 1616 01:30:31,011 --> 01:30:33,048 And that's the point, I think. 1617 01:30:33,082 --> 01:30:36,223 Keep an open mind, because, you know, 1618 01:30:36,258 --> 01:30:40,435 something you hear today may sound totally incredible, 1619 01:30:40,469 --> 01:30:43,127 but then you hear it again and again and again, 1620 01:30:43,161 --> 01:30:45,370 from people who don't even know each other. 1621 01:30:45,405 --> 01:30:49,340 And if you keep an open mind, you'll grow with it. 1622 01:30:49,374 --> 01:30:52,792 Whether you're sold on it or not, 1623 01:30:52,826 --> 01:30:55,070 you'll see an evolutional process here. 1624 01:30:55,104 --> 01:30:58,211 Know that these people have been through a lot. Have compassion. 1625 01:30:58,245 --> 01:31:01,697 How would you treat someone who's been raped, in a plane crash, 1626 01:31:01,732 --> 01:31:05,494 a cancer survivor, or someone with a life-threatening illness, 1627 01:31:05,529 --> 01:31:06,944 or a deformed child? 1628 01:31:06,978 --> 01:31:09,498 How would you treat them? What kind of compassion would you show them? 1629 01:31:09,533 --> 01:31:11,776 Show that to the people who've had this experience. 1630 01:31:11,811 --> 01:31:14,020 Even if you don't understand it, even if you don't believe it's real. 1631 01:31:14,054 --> 01:31:17,437 Know that that person's going through something emotionally real for them. 1632 01:31:17,472 --> 01:31:20,820 You don't have to understand it. You just have to be kind. 1633 01:31:20,854 --> 01:31:22,787 Isn't that the truth of everything? 1634 01:31:22,822 --> 01:31:24,962 Being kind and compassionate to everyone? 1635 01:31:26,032 --> 01:31:28,034 It's a ride I don't suggest people take. 1636 01:31:28,068 --> 01:31:31,278 I don't suggest it, 'cause it's ruined my life. 1637 01:31:31,313 --> 01:31:34,903 You lose your career, your wife, your house, 1638 01:31:34,937 --> 01:31:38,216 your money, your dog, you know? 1639 01:31:38,251 --> 01:31:40,805 How much of this is acceptable, 1640 01:31:40,840 --> 01:31:42,393 when you've done nothing wrong? 1641 01:31:42,427 --> 01:31:44,533 You're an experiencer and you didn't ask for this, 1642 01:31:44,568 --> 01:31:47,502 or you're a researcher and you're bravely looking into this. 1643 01:31:47,536 --> 01:31:50,781 People are ruining other people's lives because they can't accept it. 1644 01:31:50,815 --> 01:31:54,301 All you do is you be there. You have a big enough heart, 1645 01:31:54,336 --> 01:31:56,752 you know? A big enough understanding. 1646 01:31:56,787 --> 01:32:00,791 You rise to the occasion and you say, "I'm there for you." 1647 01:32:00,825 --> 01:32:03,103 And that's all we ask. 1648 01:32:03,138 --> 01:32:07,660 NARRATOR: Unless you've had these experiences, they are hard to comprehend. 1649 01:32:07,694 --> 01:32:09,558 But pain is pain. 1650 01:32:09,593 --> 01:32:13,562 The struggle to understand something so extraordinary 1651 01:32:13,597 --> 01:32:15,840 is a lonely journey. 1652 01:32:15,875 --> 01:32:20,258 Sometimes we just need someone to be there for us, to listen. 1653 01:32:20,293 --> 01:32:23,883 Unfortunately, my wife couldn't do this with me, 1654 01:32:23,917 --> 01:32:27,403 but, Megan, she's been with me, like, 1655 01:32:28,404 --> 01:32:29,716 like a... 1656 01:32:31,235 --> 01:32:33,340 Like through and through, you know. 1657 01:32:34,445 --> 01:32:35,515 Sorry. [CHUCKLES] 1658 01:32:38,898 --> 01:32:41,038 That where it gets hard, right there. 1659 01:32:41,417 --> 01:32:43,074 Sorry. Um... 1660 01:32:46,768 --> 01:32:49,080 Without her... Without her, man... 1661 01:32:50,530 --> 01:32:52,877 There's no way... 1662 01:32:52,912 --> 01:32:56,398 There's no fucking way I could have... I could have done it. 1663 01:33:01,852 --> 01:33:03,716 [TEARFULLY] You don't understand 1664 01:33:05,856 --> 01:33:08,030 the hell we've been through together. 1665 01:33:09,618 --> 01:33:11,275 The absolute torture. 1666 01:33:12,656 --> 01:33:14,036 [SNIFFLING] 1667 01:33:15,797 --> 01:33:18,593 If we just hold on to each other as tight as we can, 1668 01:33:19,455 --> 01:33:21,423 'cause in the end, we're all we got. 1669 01:33:24,288 --> 01:33:26,393 And she's gone through so much herself. 1670 01:33:30,743 --> 01:33:34,436 'Cause she's been by my side the whole time. 1671 01:33:34,470 --> 01:33:38,336 Nobody gets to see it, because I'm the one that takes the... 1672 01:33:39,165 --> 01:33:41,063 takes the reins, but... 1673 01:33:42,340 --> 01:33:45,689 Man, without her, it wouldn't be possible. 1674 01:33:45,723 --> 01:33:49,762 I wouldn't be alive today, because I wouldn't have survived the transformation. 1675 01:33:50,970 --> 01:33:54,249 Nobody can understand what it's like 1676 01:33:54,283 --> 01:33:58,115 to have to go through something like... 1677 01:33:59,288 --> 01:34:03,120 I was just a person, man. I was just a fucking person. 1678 01:34:03,741 --> 01:34:05,294 And now... And now, I'm... 1679 01:34:06,364 --> 01:34:08,228 What am I supposed to do? 1680 01:34:08,953 --> 01:34:10,506 What am I supposed to do? 1681 01:34:11,922 --> 01:34:13,164 I don't know. 1682 01:34:13,199 --> 01:34:18,135 But if it wasn't for her I couldn't have survived. 1683 01:34:19,101 --> 01:34:20,309 No way. 1684 01:34:20,344 --> 01:34:22,518 Anybody else, they would have left me. 1685 01:34:22,553 --> 01:34:24,866 You know? Anybody else, it would have been game over, 1686 01:34:24,900 --> 01:34:30,803 because, you know, the shit I put her through, you know... 1687 01:34:30,837 --> 01:34:34,945 'Cause I'm dying, you know, and she's watching me die. 1688 01:34:34,979 --> 01:34:38,534 You can't even imagine what that's like for a wife to see her husband dying 1689 01:34:38,569 --> 01:34:42,159 for an unknown reason, you know, from ETs. 1690 01:34:42,193 --> 01:34:43,954 You know? Who knows? So... 1691 01:34:43,988 --> 01:34:46,232 INTERVIEWER: What was the... We never circled back around. 1692 01:34:46,266 --> 01:34:48,855 What was the switch that flipped you back into health? 1693 01:34:49,373 --> 01:34:50,374 Oh... 1694 01:34:50,408 --> 01:34:52,721 Yeah. So, the health thing. 1695 01:34:52,756 --> 01:34:54,447 [CHUCKLES] It just went away. 1696 01:34:54,999 --> 01:34:56,345 It went away. Boom. 1697 01:34:56,380 --> 01:34:59,901 I was gonna die. Like, I'm going to die. I'm dying. 1698 01:34:59,935 --> 01:35:01,557 Boom, it's gone. 1699 01:35:02,041 --> 01:35:03,559 Sometimes, um... 1700 01:35:06,183 --> 01:35:10,428 I... Sometimes I get upset because I feel like they robbed that from me. 1701 01:35:12,085 --> 01:35:14,881 [DEEP INHALE AND EXHALE] 1702 01:35:14,916 --> 01:35:18,471 I don't know. Sometimes I don't know if I should blame them for that 1703 01:35:18,505 --> 01:35:21,681 or just life circumstances. I don't know. 1704 01:35:23,648 --> 01:35:26,375 You know, one thing with abductees... 1705 01:35:27,100 --> 01:35:28,688 It's very hard [CHOKING] 1706 01:35:30,517 --> 01:35:34,452 for abductees in relationships afterwards. 1707 01:35:34,487 --> 01:35:36,938 That's one thing that gets really screwed up. 1708 01:35:36,972 --> 01:35:39,664 First off, will the other person understand, this and that. 1709 01:35:39,699 --> 01:35:41,839 And you wanna keep it from people. 1710 01:35:44,290 --> 01:35:48,294 And, uh, and then it affects 1711 01:35:48,328 --> 01:35:51,228 emotional intimacy. 1712 01:35:52,470 --> 01:35:54,852 And a lot of abductees have issues with that. 1713 01:35:58,614 --> 01:36:01,031 And part of me goes, "Well, no. That's just life." 1714 01:36:01,065 --> 01:36:02,722 You know? Blah, blah, blah. 1715 01:36:02,757 --> 01:36:08,763 And sometimes I go, "No, these experiences have had an effect there." 1716 01:36:10,385 --> 01:36:13,491 And I know that for a lot of abductees watching this. 1717 01:36:13,526 --> 01:36:18,531 I know that that's real common for a lot of them. 1718 01:36:18,565 --> 01:36:22,086 If you're already in a relationship, it can screw it up. 1719 01:36:22,121 --> 01:36:27,920 And a lot of abductees end up having a real hard time with intimacy in relationships. 1720 01:36:27,954 --> 01:36:31,233 There's so many times where you push down things about this. 1721 01:36:31,268 --> 01:36:35,686 You're like, "I'm fine. I'm stronger than this." 1722 01:36:36,238 --> 01:36:37,308 You know... 1723 01:36:37,343 --> 01:36:39,655 And then, at times like this... 1724 01:36:39,690 --> 01:36:41,036 These are parts I don't talk about. 1725 01:36:41,071 --> 01:36:42,866 These are what you go into support groups to talk about. 1726 01:36:42,900 --> 01:36:46,939 That's where that realizing, "Oh, my God. I'm not the only one." 1727 01:36:46,973 --> 01:36:49,286 You know? I'm not the only one who has those problems. 1728 01:36:49,320 --> 01:36:50,770 I'm not the only one with those difficulties. 1729 01:36:50,805 --> 01:36:53,911 I'm not the only one who has intimacy things. 1730 01:36:54,739 --> 01:36:56,880 And that's where that really helps. 1731 01:36:56,914 --> 01:37:02,092 And it's necessary for more women to step outside of that fear, or... 1732 01:37:02,126 --> 01:37:04,163 And if it's not the fear, 1733 01:37:04,197 --> 01:37:09,064 there's the other duality of, "Oh, it's okay. It's beautiful." And ask the questions. 1734 01:37:09,099 --> 01:37:12,309 Why are we okay with just the simple answers that we're getting? 1735 01:37:12,343 --> 01:37:16,796 People need to investigate and learn and find the highest level of truth 1736 01:37:16,831 --> 01:37:17,901 within themselves. 1737 01:37:17,935 --> 01:37:20,317 And each person may have another story, 1738 01:37:20,351 --> 01:37:22,733 and hopefully another puzzle piece to this, 1739 01:37:22,767 --> 01:37:26,771 to help us put together even greater understanding of this reality, 1740 01:37:26,806 --> 01:37:28,083 which is necessary. 1741 01:37:28,118 --> 01:37:30,258 And if we as humans are within 1742 01:37:30,292 --> 01:37:32,812 a hybridization program here on this planet, 1743 01:37:32,847 --> 01:37:35,504 what are we doing? Who are we serving? 1744 01:37:35,539 --> 01:37:37,196 We need to ask those questions. 1745 01:37:37,230 --> 01:37:41,786 Which brings us to the lifelong existential question, "Why am I here?" 1746 01:37:41,821 --> 01:37:44,444 And as you can see, that's the same question that we've been asking 1747 01:37:44,479 --> 01:37:46,861 even now with the hybridization program. 1748 01:37:46,895 --> 01:37:50,174 Don't be dismissive of the unknown. 1749 01:37:50,209 --> 01:37:52,556 Be explorative of it. 1750 01:37:52,590 --> 01:37:54,558 Bring that thought in the back of your head 1751 01:37:54,592 --> 01:37:56,698 that you should listen to sometimes. 1752 01:37:56,732 --> 01:38:01,151 Or that feeling in your gut. You gotta get in tune with it. 1753 01:38:01,185 --> 01:38:05,914 Don't always dismiss yourself, or dismiss it as imagination. 1754 01:38:05,949 --> 01:38:10,056 That intuitive feeling is given to us for a reason, I feel like. 1755 01:38:10,091 --> 01:38:11,713 It's not like I'm special. 1756 01:38:11,747 --> 01:38:13,611 This is the story for every human being. 1757 01:38:13,646 --> 01:38:16,683 It's just I remember a fragment of that. 1758 01:38:16,718 --> 01:38:20,170 It's only because I opened my heart. That's it. 1759 01:38:20,204 --> 01:38:21,723 Just opened my mind and my heart. 1760 01:38:21,757 --> 01:38:24,484 That's how I've grown. It's just... It's made me... 1761 01:38:24,519 --> 01:38:27,763 I feel it's made me a better person. 1762 01:38:27,798 --> 01:38:34,115 And it's just made me more aware of the nature of our reality. 1763 01:38:34,149 --> 01:38:38,084 It's the part of ourselves in our own subconscious that fears. 1764 01:38:38,119 --> 01:38:44,815 It's the part of ourselves in our own subconscious that hates and is angry. 1765 01:38:44,849 --> 01:38:48,715 And in that way, those parts of ourselves are complicit 1766 01:38:48,750 --> 01:38:50,994 with the sinister forces in this world 1767 01:38:51,028 --> 01:38:54,963 that try to keep humanity as a controlled human herd. 1768 01:38:54,998 --> 01:38:57,241 Is this what we want to become more of? 1769 01:38:57,276 --> 01:39:01,211 It's a question that every human heart is going to have to ask itself. 1770 01:39:01,245 --> 01:39:05,387 Do they want more power and control and restriction and limitation 1771 01:39:05,422 --> 01:39:09,012 of everything about who we are as a species? 1772 01:39:09,046 --> 01:39:11,566 Or do we want to become what we're intended to become? 1773 01:39:11,600 --> 01:39:14,914 Do we wanna fulfill the potential 1774 01:39:14,949 --> 01:39:17,744 that is within every codon in our DNA, 1775 01:39:17,779 --> 01:39:20,885 and see where that can take us? 1776 01:39:20,920 --> 01:39:24,337 Can I... Is it appropriate if I just speak to the camera? 1777 01:39:24,372 --> 01:39:26,995 I want to do this. 1778 01:39:27,030 --> 01:39:31,620 So if you're listening and you're someone who has had 1779 01:39:31,655 --> 01:39:34,244 unexplainable experiences that you don't know how to process. 1780 01:39:34,278 --> 01:39:36,763 Or if you're just curious about this whole 1781 01:39:36,798 --> 01:39:39,352 crazy subject of UFOs and everything related to it, 1782 01:39:39,387 --> 01:39:44,633 I wanna tell you, A, your ability to process this is actually greater than you think. 1783 01:39:44,668 --> 01:39:47,912 There's more strength inside you than you realize. 1784 01:39:47,947 --> 01:39:50,536 That's one. I've seen this countless times. 1785 01:39:51,502 --> 01:39:54,989 Reach down. You can pull up that courage 1786 01:39:55,023 --> 01:39:58,751 and you can face that reality, and you become a better person. 1787 01:39:58,785 --> 01:40:00,097 You do. 1788 01:40:00,132 --> 01:40:03,480 And you can become an inspiration to other people in turn. 1789 01:40:03,514 --> 01:40:05,033 That's what you can do. 1790 01:40:05,068 --> 01:40:08,071 The other thing to keep in mind is you're not alone. 1791 01:40:08,105 --> 01:40:10,935 There are many other people just like you, 1792 01:40:10,970 --> 01:40:15,733 who have had difficult, unexplainable experiences, 1793 01:40:15,768 --> 01:40:17,321 but yet, there they are. 1794 01:40:17,356 --> 01:40:23,155 And so, this is a very important, significant process going on, 1795 01:40:23,189 --> 01:40:24,846 and you can deal with it. 1796 01:40:24,880 --> 01:40:26,986 There's other people just like you. 1797 01:40:27,021 --> 01:40:29,506 ["THE SEEDING" PLAYING] 1798 01:41:14,068 --> 01:41:20,074 ♪ They're... They're looking at you ♪ 1799 01:41:23,042 --> 01:41:29,945 ♪ Restrained... Restrained from the truth ♪ 1800 01:41:31,568 --> 01:41:34,088 ♪ So, don't stop 1801 01:41:36,193 --> 01:41:38,747 ♪ You don't stop 1802 01:41:41,371 --> 01:41:44,788 ♪ Open up some minds 1803 01:41:44,822 --> 01:41:47,756 ♪ The light is on you 1804 01:41:50,587 --> 01:41:52,796 ♪ Change is... 1805 01:41:54,384 --> 01:41:57,007 ♪ Change is on you 1806 01:41:58,974 --> 01:42:01,874 ♪ But those changes 1807 01:42:02,978 --> 01:42:06,189 ♪ Those changes are good 1808 01:42:22,688 --> 01:42:28,314 ♪ They... They don't have a clue ♪ 1809 01:42:31,697 --> 01:42:38,324 ♪ Contained... Complacent, subdued ♪ 1810 01:42:39,843 --> 01:42:42,294 ♪ No, don't stop 1811 01:42:45,262 --> 01:42:47,126 ♪ Don't stop 1812 01:42:49,715 --> 01:42:52,994 ♪ Seed that open mind 1813 01:42:53,028 --> 01:42:56,756 ♪ Show the knowledge The truth ♪ 1814 01:42:58,413 --> 01:43:01,623 ♪ 'Cause the change is 1815 01:43:02,555 --> 01:43:05,075 ♪ The change is new 1816 01:43:07,595 --> 01:43:11,702 ♪ And those changes 1817 01:43:11,737 --> 01:43:14,809 ♪ Those changes are good 1818 01:43:16,707 --> 01:43:20,677 ♪ And the changes 1819 01:43:20,711 --> 01:43:23,404 ♪ The changes are new 1820 01:43:26,061 --> 01:43:29,651 ♪ But those changes 1821 01:43:29,686 --> 01:43:32,378 ♪ Those changes are good 1822 01:43:34,898 --> 01:43:39,074 ♪ Yeah, the changes 1823 01:43:39,109 --> 01:43:42,319 ♪ The changes are good 147656

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