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[clink]
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[eerie music]
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[gentle piano music]
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- In the armed forces,
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there's a nuclear
weapons program
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called the Personnel
Reliability Program.
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Do you have personal defects?
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Do you have financial problems
which could compromise you?
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Do you have a problem
with infidelity?
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This is the program
where they screen you
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to see if you can be trusted
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to hold an M16 to
guard the truck
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that might carry
a nuclear weapon.
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Not that it will, that it might.
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That also is the program
where they determine
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whether you're an Air Force
missile flight officer,
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whether you can go
down into a bunker
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and be responsible
to turn the keys on
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a Minuteman-III missile.
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- [Announcer] The Chairman
of the Joint Chiefs of Staff
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- That is an entire
scaled evaluation program
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that shows your
personal reliability
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to carry out your orders and
to do the highest risk things
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like fly a B-52
bomber or B-2 bomber
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and drop a nuclear weapon.
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The President of
the United States
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doesn't have to meet
any of these parameters,
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none of them whatsoever,
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because the electorate
choosing you
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clears you into all
of these programs.
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[crowd cheering]
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We have a president
of the United States
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who was duly elected,
he was put into office,
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given the great faith of
the people who voted him in.
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- I Donald John Trump
do solemnly swear.
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- I Donald John Trump
do solemnly swear.
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- And if we look at
the great presidents
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of the United States,
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there's one unifying thing:
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they maintained the continuity
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in how the Constitution
was upheld and defended.
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- [John] So help me God.
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- So help me God.
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- Congratulations,
Mr. President.
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[crowd cheering]
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[upbeat music]
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- At first, it was just
political name calling
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and insults suggesting
Donald Trump was a lunatic.
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- This man is a
pathological liar.
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- Guarantee I have a vocabulary
better than all of 'em,
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I know I have an IQ
better than all of them.
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I'm very highly educated.
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I know words.
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I have the best words
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but there's no better
word than stupid.
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Oh, I don't know what I said.
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I don't remember.
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I could stand in the
middle of Fifth Avenue
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and shoot somebody and I
wouldn't lose any voters, okay?
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- [Man] But more recently,
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the conversation about the
president's mental state
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has taken a more serious tone.
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- I can't explain
this crazy behavior,
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but I can call it crazy.
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- [Donald] We've taken
this big, beautiful ship
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and it's being turned
around very quickly.
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- [Man] I'm not a
psychologist or a psychiatrist
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but the guy needs therapy.
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- USA!
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USA!
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I am the chosen one.
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- [Man] Almost everyone
seems to have an opinion.
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Could Donald Trump
be unfit for office?
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[chattering]
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- Good evening.
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Thank you guys for coming.
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I know our first
official press briefing
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is gonna to be on Monday
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but I wanted to give
you a few updates
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on the President's activities.
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But before I get to
the news of the day,
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I think I'd like to discuss
a little bit of the coverage
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in the past 24 hours.
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Yesterday, at a time when
our nation and the world
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was watching the peaceful
transition of power,
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some members of the
media were engaged
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in deliberately false reporting.
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Photographs of the
inaugural proceedings
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were intentionally framed in a
way, in one particular tweet,
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to minimize the enormous support
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that had gathered on
the National Mall.
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No one had numbers.
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This was the largest audience
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to ever witness an
inauguration, period,
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both in person and
around the globe.
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Even the New York Times
printed a photograph.
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- Why put him out there
for the very first time
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and utter a falsehood?
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Why did he do that?
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It undermines the credibility
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of the entire White House
press office on day one.
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- No it doesn't.
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Don't be so overly
dramatic about it, Chuck.
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You're saying it's a falsehood
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and they're giving Sean
Spicer, our Press Secretary,
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gave alternative facts to that
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but the point remains
that there is--
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- Wait a minute,
alternative facts?
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Look, alternative facts are
not facts, they're falsehoods.
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- My name's George Conway.
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I'm a lawyer, I'm a litigator.
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I principally practice
securities litigation.
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I've argued appeals
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including a big case
in the Supreme Court.
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My wife was Donald
Trump's Campaign Manager
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and now is Counselor
to the President.
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- And he said a lot
about these instances.
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- I was a Republican
since probably about 1980
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when Ronald Reagan
was elected president.
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I voted for Donald Trump in 2016
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and I almost took a job in
the Justice Department myself
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to run the Civil Division of
the Department of Justice.
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Donald Trump wasn't
my first choice
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among the Republican nominees
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but I was hopeful that
he would calm down
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and get better as time went on.
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He started to show a
little more discipline.
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He would only go off the
rails every third day
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instead of every day,
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but the problem was
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once he got into the
supreme position of power,
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he lost some of his
incentive to be disciplined
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and I'm thinking at
this point in time,
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"What is wrong with him?"
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Donald Trump is like a practical
joke that got out of hand.
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I mean, that's the problem.
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I mean, I didn't go
into the administration
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for a lot of reasons
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but the fundamental
reason was it was a mess.
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I guess I must've been googling
Trump and mental health
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because I clearly thought
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there's something
seriously wrong with him
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and I came across an article
in Rolling Stone magazine,
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Is Trump a Malignant Narcissist?
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And a number of people like
Dr. Gartner were interviewed
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and as soon as I read
that I realized that's it.
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You cannot understand his
presidency without knowing this.
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- My name is John Gartner.
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I'm a psychologist.
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I taught in the
Department of Psychiatry
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at Johns Hopkins
University for 28 years.
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I've written some books and I'm
the founder of Duty to Warn,
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an organization of mental
health professionals
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that believe that Donald
Trump should be removed
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because he's
psychologically unfit.
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My name is Lance Dodes.
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I'm a psychiatrist
and a psychoanalyst.
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I've spent most of
my research career
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looking at compulsive
and addictive behavior
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and I've become interested in
the importance of psychology
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in politics in recent years
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because of the threat
to our country.
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- My name is Justin Frank,
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a psychoanalyst
and a psychiatrist.
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I've been in practice in
DC for about 40 years.
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Is Donald Trump fit to
serve as the President
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and Commander in Chief?
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I can answer that
with one word, no.
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Trump is a sociopath,
a sadist, a con artist,
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a racist, a misogynist,
a sexist in general,
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and I think it is a problem.
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- How dare liberals,
people on the left,
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try to undo democracy
by accusing a president
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of being mentally ill
without any basis?
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Look, these psychiatrists now
who are trying to diagnose
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without ever having met the man.
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- This is not the first time
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the left has gone
at Republicans.
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They did the same thing
to Barry Goldwater,
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they did the same
thing to Ronald Reagan.
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- Over 1,000 psychiatrists
diagnosed Barry Goldwater
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and said he was mentally ill,
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they were then rebuked
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by the American
Psychiatric Association
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and said,
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"Do not make diagnosis
without seeing the patient."
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And they continue
to do it today.
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- [Narrator] The
election campaign's
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in full swing in New Hampshire,
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bellwether state of the nation.
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It goes to the
polls on March 10th
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and growing support
for Goldwater.
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- So, the Goldwater rule
has an interesting history.
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In 1964, Barry Goldwater
ran for president
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and a now defunct
magazine, Fact Magazine,
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did a survey of psychiatrists
and published an article
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saying psychiatrists think
that Goldwater is unfit.
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Goldwater sued them and he won
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and as it turns out,
actually, he deserved to win.
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It was libelous.
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He was not unstable.
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And the psychiatrists
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who wrote those statements
about Goldwater,
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it's important for
people to understand
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the history of our field,
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this was in the '60s
when Freudian psychiatry
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really ruled the roost.
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- This is what I've discovered.
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We are constantly
bedeviled by powerful,
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unconscious forces
in our beings.
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- [John] And so their
explanations were things like
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he's a latent homosexual,
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he's been scarred by
his potty-training,
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he has an unresolved
Oedipus complex.
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- [Narrator] Based
on unconscious hate
of his own father
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caused by childhood jealousy.
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- Freudian psychiatry,
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though it has many important
and positive aspects
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and helped move the
profession forward,
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it's not been used well
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in terms of its
analyzing public figures.
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I actually interviewed
the last living member
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of the ethics committee that
formed the Goldwater rule
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and he said these were
obviously wild speculations,
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they weren't founded in fact,
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and so they embarrassed
the profession
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because they were
really idle speculations
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and so that's why
they passed that rule.
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He said to me,
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"We never intended it
to be a gag order,"
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meaning that psychiatrists
could never speak up
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about public figures,
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"We just didn't want them
making unfounded statements."
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- The Goldwater rule today
has been incorrectly extended
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and the incorrect part about it
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is that it now is being
used to suppress speech
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about things that are knowable.
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It's as nonsensical as
saying an orthopedic surgeon
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shouldn't be able to watch
somebody in a football injury
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and say that person
probably has an ACL tear,
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he can say it because he's
an expert in the field.
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Something happened,
he observed it.
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- And what people
need to understand
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is that actually the
psychiatric interview
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is the least reliable
method of making a diagnosis
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because our current
diagnostic system, the DSM,
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is based on observable,
behavioral criteria.
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Well, when you meet with
someone they can lie to you.
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So, they can say, "Oh,
I never did that,"
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or, "I don't do that."
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But if you can actually
observe their behavior,
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if you can follow them around,
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if you can watch them on TV,
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if you can read
their social media,
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if you could talk to all
their significant others,
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you'd probably get a much
more reliable indicator
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of how they behave.
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- I'm not concerned
about anything
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with the Russian investigation
because it's a hoax.
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That's enough.
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Put down the mic.
- Mr. President.
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- I am more confident in my
diagnosis of Donald Trump
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than any diagnosis
I've ever made before
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because I have more information.
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- By outward appearance,
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you're 10 years older
than you were a year ago.
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- Some weariness
has bit at my bones.
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- It's not true
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that having any kind of
mental health disorder
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would make someone
a bad president.
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One of my favorite books
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is a book called
"Lincoln's Melancholy",
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about how Lincoln's being
a depressive personality
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is part of what allowed
him to win the Civil War.
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He had a capacity to
endure mental suffering
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that was baked into who he was
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and so the enormous
burden of the Civil War
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was something he was
actually able to endure.
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- I have seen what's happened
in this last four years
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when in my state, when
people lose their jobs
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there's a good chance I'll
know them by their names.
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- Bill Clinton, I wrote a
biography of Bill Clinton,
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about how his hypomania was
part of what energized him
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in terms of his charisma
and his creativity,
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it also had to do with his
impulse control problems
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and his hypersexuality,
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so it was a double-edged sword
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but it doesn't disqualify
someone from being president
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if they have a
psychological disorder,
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but Donald Trump
shows clear signs
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of the most severe
personality disorder,
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it's called malignant narcissism
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and was first introduced
by Erich Fromm
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who escaped the Nazis and
spent a lot of his life
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trying to understand
the psychology of evil.
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And he formulated this diagnosis
of malignant narcissism
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which has four components:
narcissism, paranoia,
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anti-social personality
disorder and sadism.
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I think everybody knows Donald
Trump's a narcissist by now.
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- I will be the
greatest jobs producer
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that God ever created.
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I know more about ISIS than
the generals do, believe me.
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- Who are you consulting
with consistently
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so that you're ready on day one?
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- [Donald] I'm speaking
with myself, number one,
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because I have a
very good brain.
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- But it's the other
three components
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that make him truly dangerous,
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because many politicians
are narcissistic
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but he's also paranoid.
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So all of his crazy
conspiracy theories.
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- The state of Hawaii released
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my official long-form
birth certificate.
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- [Moderator] The
birth certificate
was produced in 2011.
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You continued to tell the story
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and question the president's
legitimacy in 2012,
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'13, '14, '15.
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- Yeah.
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- How about this one
about Ted Cruz's father?
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- [Donald] His father was
with Lee Harvey Oswald
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prior to Oswald's being shot
and nobody even brings it up.
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- And his sense
of being a victim.
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- [Reporter] Mr. Trump turned
his sights on Google tweeting,
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"They have it rigged
for me and others
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"so that almost all
stories and news is bad."
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- And his demonization of
anyone who disagrees with him.
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- Nasty guy.
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Now I know why he doesn't
have one endorsement
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from any of his colleagues.
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- All right, John,
I get to respond.
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- [Moderator] Senator has
picked from the buffet there.
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- He's a nasty guy.
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- These are all signs
of a paranoid process,
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anti-social
personality disorder,
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or what used to be called
psychopathy or sociopathy.
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It's constant lying, well,
he's the most documented liar
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in human history, I
think, at this point.
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It's violating the
rights of other people
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and exploiting other people.
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So, sexual assault
would be violating
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the rights of other people,
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not paying your bills,
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or defrauding people
through Trump University
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would be an example of
exploiting other people
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and it's breaking laws
and breaking norms.
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Well, he's broken every
norm of the presidency,
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that's one of the reasons
he's so out of control.
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There's certain norms we
thought no one would ever break
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but it's part of his personality
disorder to break norms
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and to break laws and
it's a lack of remorse.
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He has no guilt or anxiety
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about the destructive
things that he does.
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- Impeachment for that?
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It was beautiful.
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It was just a
perfect conversation.
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- And the fourth component
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that Erich Fromm
identified is sadism,
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truly taking pleasure
in harming, humiliating,
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and degrading
other human beings.
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If you read his tweets,
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I wrote an introduction to
a book about his tweets,
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I had to read to read
thousands of his tweets
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and they literally made me ill
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because it was just
one vicious attack
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and humiliating insult
after another after another.
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I was like how can
someone even come up
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with thousands of vicious things
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to say about so many people?
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But he enjoys degrading
and humiliating
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and insulting other people.
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- I do think that we
have enough evidence
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that most psychiatrists would
feel like it's important
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to warn about Trump.
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We have a duty to warn.
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- Psychologists, and really all
mental health professionals,
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have the duty to protect society
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if there's a risk to society.
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[eerie music]
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- So the Tarasoff
case was in the 1970s.
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A patient said to
a psychologist,
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"I'm gonna go home and
murder my girlfriend."
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The psychologist didn't
warn the potential victim
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and the patient went home
and killed the girlfriend
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and it's now the
law in all 50 states
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that if you are
aware that a patient
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might be a danger to someone,
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confidentiality
goes out the window,
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and confidentiality is
one of our core values
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but it's more important
to warn someone
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who could be harmed
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than it is to maintain
even our core value
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of confidentiality.
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Trump is not my patient,
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he's not saying I'm gonna
go kill my girlfriend
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but the number of
people who are at risk,
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the number of people who could
be harmed isn't one person,
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it's hundreds of
millions of people.
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So if we didn't speak up,
that would be the morality.
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What annoys me about
the Goldwater rule
406
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the way it's being
interpreted now,
407
00:17:54,763 --> 00:17:58,284
is it's being interpreted
as if we are being unethical
408
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by speaking out and
warning the public
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when in fact I
asked this question
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to whom will history be kinder?
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Those who spoke up during
the age when Trump rose,
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or those who were silent?
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- I want the cleanest
water on Earth.
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I want the cleanest
air on Earth,
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and that's what we're doing
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and I'm an
environmentalist as you,
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a lot of people don't
understand that.
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I have done more environmental
impact statements
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probably than anybody that's
I guess I can say definitely
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because I've done many,
many, many of them
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more than anybody that's
ever been president,
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or vice president, or anything
even close to president,
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and I think I know more
about the environment
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than most people.
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[upbeat music]
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- Gaslighting is a crucial
tool of abusive personalities.
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It is lying to someone in a way
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that makes them doubt their
own perception of reality.
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- I'm Dr. Ramani Durvasula.
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I'm a professor of psychology.
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It's an interesting place
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where the origin of this
term gaslight came from,
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it came from what was
a play in the '30s
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and then became a film
called "Gaslight",
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00:19:20,676 --> 00:19:22,402
and it was about a man
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who was slowly trying
to drive his wife mad.
437
00:19:27,959 --> 00:19:29,513
- A moment ago, the gas dimmed
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as it does when someone turns
on another light in the house.
439
00:19:32,205 --> 00:19:33,758
Did you turn on another
light, Elizabeth?
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00:19:33,793 --> 00:19:36,658
- No, ma'am, there's no
one in the house but us.
441
00:19:36,692 --> 00:19:38,556
- [Ramani] The gaslights kept
getting turned up and down
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and he was denying
having done it.
443
00:19:41,766 --> 00:19:43,906
- You're going to
see a doctor, Madam.
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00:19:43,941 --> 00:19:45,391
- No.
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- [Husband] More than one
doctor tomorrow morning.
446
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- Very common sorts of
gaslighting statements
447
00:19:50,223 --> 00:19:52,950
are things like, it
never happened that way,
448
00:19:52,984 --> 00:19:55,677
you must be losing your mind.
449
00:19:55,711 --> 00:19:58,921
They'll literally say things
happened that didn't happen,
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I didn't do that,
I didn't say that.
451
00:20:01,476 --> 00:20:04,789
Many people call gaslighting
a form of emotional abuse
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because what you're really
doing is setting out
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to confuse another person.
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00:20:09,069 --> 00:20:10,692
When you confuse
someone like that,
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you really do almost render
them more vulnerable to you
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and actually easier to coerce
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because now they don't
really know which way is up.
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It's as though you've
turned gravity off
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and turned them upside down.
460
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- I don't know if you remember
the point where Trump said,
461
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"Listen, don't pay attention
to what you're seeing,
462
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"don't pay attention to
what you're hearing."
463
00:20:26,155 --> 00:20:28,399
- What you're seeing
and what you're reading
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is not what's happening.
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- And it's interesting
because as human beings
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we're actually
vulnerable to this.
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There's a famous experience
in social psychology
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called the Asch Experiment.
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The Asch Experiment is they
show lines on a screen,
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one is clearly
longer than the other
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and they ask them
which line is longer
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and they get it correct
100% of the time.
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- That's two.
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- Then you bring in
four confederates
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who work for the experimenter
476
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but you pretend they're also
in the study as subjects
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and they all say that the
shorter line is longer.
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- [Man] Three.
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- [Three] Three.
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- Three.
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- Three?
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- 50% of the time the person
will reverse themselves
483
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and say, "You're right, the
shorter line is the longer one."
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We're very subject
to the influence,
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our reality testing is very
subject to the influence
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of social pressures.
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So when he does these things
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that are blatantly
destructive and disordered
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and yet people act
as if they're normal
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and they poo-poo
these observations,
491
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eventually we begin to
quest ourselves and think,
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"Oh, maybe I'm wrong.
493
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"Maybe it actually is normal."
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- What has been so disturbing
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is that we've discovered,
at least some of us,
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that it's much quicker
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to demolish a building
than to build one
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and Trump understands that
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and I think he can demolish a
lot of our faith as a nation
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in our institutions,
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he can demolish the
effectiveness of institutions,
502
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he can certainly psychologically
confuse and gaslight people
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like nobody's business.
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[cameras clicking]
505
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- Thank you.
506
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Thank you very much.
507
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I said during the transition,
I'll say it up here,
508
00:22:16,749 --> 00:22:18,751
I think there's been, at times,
509
00:22:18,785 --> 00:22:21,547
a disconnect between the
way we see the president
510
00:22:21,581 --> 00:22:23,411
and how much we
love the president
511
00:22:23,445 --> 00:22:26,275
and the way some of you
perhaps see the president.
512
00:22:26,310 --> 00:22:28,347
I certainly see the American
probably see the president
513
00:22:28,381 --> 00:22:29,589
the way I do,
514
00:22:29,624 --> 00:22:31,764
but we wanna get that
message out there
515
00:22:31,798 --> 00:22:33,938
and to use a Wall
Street expression,
516
00:22:33,973 --> 00:22:35,871
there might be an
arbitrage spread
517
00:22:35,906 --> 00:22:38,011
between how well we are doing
518
00:22:38,046 --> 00:22:39,668
and how well some of you
guys think we're doing
519
00:22:39,703 --> 00:22:41,498
and we're gonna work hard
to close that spread.
520
00:22:41,532 --> 00:22:43,327
My name's Anthony Scaramucci.
521
00:22:44,466 --> 00:22:45,674
I spent 11 days
in the White House
522
00:22:45,709 --> 00:22:47,883
as the president's
Communications Director.
523
00:22:48,884 --> 00:22:51,508
Trump is wickedly smart.
524
00:22:51,542 --> 00:22:55,028
The guy made it to the American
presidency, he's not stupid.
525
00:22:55,063 --> 00:22:58,031
You can hate Trump 'cause he
says assholeish things, okay?
526
00:22:58,066 --> 00:23:01,380
And he's an obnoxious
guy at times,
527
00:23:01,414 --> 00:23:04,866
but what you're missing is
that he's now a reflection
528
00:23:04,900 --> 00:23:07,213
of the cultural zeitgeist,
529
00:23:07,247 --> 00:23:09,871
he's an avatar of that anger.
530
00:23:09,905 --> 00:23:12,460
So when he's lighting
people up on Twitter,
531
00:23:12,494 --> 00:23:14,151
there's a very large group of
people in the United States
532
00:23:14,185 --> 00:23:16,567
that are actually giggling
and they enjoy it.
533
00:23:17,741 --> 00:23:18,983
- [Interviewer] What are
you earliest memories
534
00:23:19,018 --> 00:23:20,468
of Donald Trump?
535
00:23:20,502 --> 00:23:23,194
- My earliest memories of
Donald Trump are actually 1983,
536
00:23:24,748 --> 00:23:28,268
during the Christmas season
I visited the Trump Tower.
537
00:23:29,615 --> 00:23:31,133
- [Narrator] The Trump
Tower when it's completed,
538
00:23:31,168 --> 00:23:33,722
will be $400 million worth
of high-priced apartments,
539
00:23:33,757 --> 00:23:36,000
commercial space and boutiques.
540
00:23:36,035 --> 00:23:37,450
- What's happened is phenomenal.
541
00:23:37,485 --> 00:23:39,107
I've never seen
anything to the extent
542
00:23:39,141 --> 00:23:40,349
that I have in New York.
543
00:23:40,384 --> 00:23:42,006
It now, from a real
estate standpoint,
544
00:23:42,041 --> 00:23:44,526
has probably become the
hottest city in the world.
545
00:23:46,632 --> 00:23:49,082
- That building was
a brand new building
546
00:23:49,117 --> 00:23:50,739
in the center of New York
547
00:23:50,774 --> 00:23:53,673
and it was a lot of
publicity and fanfare.
548
00:23:53,708 --> 00:23:56,987
It's got brass and
a ton of pink marble
549
00:23:57,021 --> 00:23:59,092
and it's a modern structure,
550
00:23:59,127 --> 00:24:01,336
and he did a great
job marketing it.
551
00:24:01,370 --> 00:24:02,820
He sold out the condominiums
552
00:24:02,855 --> 00:24:05,927
and he built for
himself a triplex
553
00:24:05,961 --> 00:24:09,309
which literally looks like
Louis XIV smoked crystal meth
554
00:24:09,344 --> 00:24:10,518
and then decorated it for him.
555
00:24:10,552 --> 00:24:12,485
I mean, it's ridiculous.
556
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:13,762
Walk into his office,
557
00:24:13,797 --> 00:24:16,316
he had a ton of pictures
of himself on the wall,
558
00:24:16,351 --> 00:24:19,250
ton of magazine covers and
all that sort of stuff.
559
00:24:21,045 --> 00:24:23,220
I read "The Art of the Deal"
when I was in law school
560
00:24:23,254 --> 00:24:24,497
when it first came out,
561
00:24:24,532 --> 00:24:27,569
and I said, "Okay, this
guy's got it goin' on."
562
00:24:28,881 --> 00:24:30,365
- Ladies and gentlemen,
563
00:24:30,399 --> 00:24:32,712
please welcome the author
of this book right here,
564
00:24:32,747 --> 00:24:35,543
"Trump: The Art of the
Deal", Donald J. Trump.
565
00:24:35,577 --> 00:24:37,959
[audience applauding]
566
00:24:37,993 --> 00:24:39,201
At the beginning of the show,
567
00:24:39,236 --> 00:24:40,548
I said you either love
him or you hate him.
568
00:24:40,582 --> 00:24:42,411
Now, do you find
that that's true
569
00:24:42,446 --> 00:24:44,724
or does everybody love you
or does everybody hate you?
570
00:24:44,759 --> 00:24:46,208
- No, most people love me
571
00:24:46,243 --> 00:24:48,625
and a few really have great
distaste for me, David.
572
00:24:48,659 --> 00:24:51,041
- And why is it that
those people, that few,
573
00:24:51,075 --> 00:24:52,387
would not care for you?
574
00:24:52,421 --> 00:24:53,353
Because you're so successful?
- I can't imagine.
575
00:24:53,388 --> 00:24:54,803
No, no, I don't think so.
576
00:24:54,838 --> 00:24:57,012
It's just I sort of speak
my mind a little bit,
577
00:24:57,047 --> 00:24:58,393
a little bit like
you in that respect.
578
00:24:58,427 --> 00:24:59,739
- Yeah.
- A little bit like you.
579
00:24:59,774 --> 00:25:00,706
- A little bit like me.
580
00:25:00,740 --> 00:25:01,638
- Not too much, hopefully.
581
00:25:01,672 --> 00:25:02,880
- What were you like as a kid?
582
00:25:02,915 --> 00:25:04,399
- Very normal in
a lot of respects,
583
00:25:04,433 --> 00:25:06,746
but a very solid child.
584
00:25:06,781 --> 00:25:08,507
- [John] He grew up in Queens.
585
00:25:08,541 --> 00:25:12,234
His father was making good
money as he was being raised.
586
00:25:12,269 --> 00:25:15,755
He built a lot of lower
middle-income housing
587
00:25:15,790 --> 00:25:17,723
on the border of
Brooklyn and Queens.
588
00:25:19,414 --> 00:25:22,037
- Fred Trump was a
successful businessman,
589
00:25:22,072 --> 00:25:25,524
he made a lot of money and
he was smart at what he did.
590
00:25:26,973 --> 00:25:31,219
However, Fred Trump was
a dishonest, crooked guy,
591
00:25:31,253 --> 00:25:34,291
who stole from the
federal government,
592
00:25:34,325 --> 00:25:35,948
who wouldn't allow black people
593
00:25:35,982 --> 00:25:38,606
to move into his apartments.
594
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:40,953
His father said, "You've
got to be a killer.
595
00:25:40,987 --> 00:25:44,059
"You've gotta be king,
you've gotta be tough,"
596
00:25:44,094 --> 00:25:46,441
and he took that in.
597
00:25:46,475 --> 00:25:48,616
- Is what you do something
you've always wanted to do?
598
00:25:48,650 --> 00:25:50,687
I know you're father
was and still is
599
00:25:50,721 --> 00:25:51,929
a real estate developer.
600
00:25:51,964 --> 00:25:53,137
- My father was in
real estate business
601
00:25:53,172 --> 00:25:56,106
and I've been in that
and other businesses
602
00:25:56,140 --> 00:25:57,314
and different things.
603
00:25:58,246 --> 00:25:59,109
I like what I'm doing.
604
00:25:59,143 --> 00:26:00,213
I just enjoy what I'm doing.
605
00:26:00,248 --> 00:26:01,801
I love the real estate business.
606
00:26:01,836 --> 00:26:04,321
I learned a lot from my father,
more than anything else,
607
00:26:04,355 --> 00:26:05,218
I learned a lot.
608
00:26:07,911 --> 00:26:10,603
- He wanted to make
a name for himself
609
00:26:10,638 --> 00:26:12,881
and he believed
early on his career
610
00:26:12,916 --> 00:26:14,573
that having a lot of publicity
611
00:26:14,607 --> 00:26:16,644
and a lot of profile
was gonna be good
612
00:26:16,678 --> 00:26:19,612
for the sales and marketing
of his apartment buildings
613
00:26:19,647 --> 00:26:21,821
and condominiums and
things that he was doing,
614
00:26:21,856 --> 00:26:25,100
but he also wanted to have
a unique celebrity persona
615
00:26:25,135 --> 00:26:28,069
and so Howard Stern
represented that for him.
616
00:26:28,103 --> 00:26:30,623
[funky music]
617
00:26:32,107 --> 00:26:33,833
- You once said that the
best way to treat a woman
618
00:26:33,868 --> 00:26:35,317
is to treat her like doody.
619
00:26:35,352 --> 00:26:36,905
- No, I never said that
- You never did?
620
00:26:36,940 --> 00:26:38,079
- But it was attributed to me.
621
00:26:38,113 --> 00:26:39,632
- So you never did say that?
622
00:26:39,667 --> 00:26:41,634
- No, I never said that but
it was attributed to me.
623
00:26:41,669 --> 00:26:44,188
- [Howard] I see, so, you
treat women with respect?
624
00:26:44,223 --> 00:26:45,120
- I can't say that either.
625
00:26:45,155 --> 00:26:46,363
- All right, good, all right.
626
00:26:46,397 --> 00:26:47,191
Somewhere in between.
627
00:26:47,226 --> 00:26:48,434
- [Donald] I do.
628
00:26:48,468 --> 00:26:49,608
I treat women with
great respect.
629
00:26:49,642 --> 00:26:51,161
- Treat women somewhere
in between respect
630
00:26:51,195 --> 00:26:52,438
and doo-doo.
631
00:26:52,472 --> 00:26:55,683
- My initial impressions
of Donald Trump,
632
00:26:55,717 --> 00:26:58,547
like everybody else,
I was starstruck.
633
00:26:58,582 --> 00:27:03,483
Back then, speaking
about women that way
634
00:27:03,518 --> 00:27:05,520
it was more the norm.
635
00:27:05,554 --> 00:27:06,694
- Where's Marla go?
636
00:27:06,728 --> 00:27:07,971
- I think we have to
put Marla right up here.
637
00:27:08,005 --> 00:27:09,041
- Come on, let's do that.
638
00:27:09,075 --> 00:27:10,801
Let's take down Frederique.
639
00:27:10,836 --> 00:27:12,803
- I went to a fundraiser
640
00:27:12,838 --> 00:27:17,808
right after Ivana
and Donald divorced
641
00:27:17,843 --> 00:27:22,848
so I was excited
that he was there.
642
00:27:23,711 --> 00:27:25,851
I went up to him and I said,
643
00:27:25,885 --> 00:27:30,303
"Hello, I'm a huge
Howard Stern fan
644
00:27:30,338 --> 00:27:33,686
"and I wanted to
introduce myself."
645
00:27:33,721 --> 00:27:38,346
And he said, "Why
would I speak to you
646
00:27:38,380 --> 00:27:40,693
"when there's so many
beautiful women here?
647
00:27:40,728 --> 00:27:42,868
"I wouldn't even let
you suck my dick."
648
00:27:43,731 --> 00:27:45,387
[gaping music]
649
00:27:45,422 --> 00:27:46,837
- One of the problems here
650
00:27:46,872 --> 00:27:50,254
is that Donald Trump
doesn't have empathy
651
00:27:50,289 --> 00:27:51,704
and that's not a
modest statement,
652
00:27:51,739 --> 00:27:54,051
he literally has no empathy.
653
00:27:54,086 --> 00:27:58,573
He does not feel
emotions like care and--
654
00:27:59,747 --> 00:28:01,162
- [News Anchor]
He's a sociopath?
655
00:28:01,196 --> 00:28:04,165
- Well, as I've said since
2016 in The New Yorker
656
00:28:04,199 --> 00:28:05,822
when he started to
run for president,
657
00:28:05,856 --> 00:28:07,858
yes, he is a sociopath.
658
00:28:07,893 --> 00:28:09,342
There is no question.
659
00:28:09,377 --> 00:28:11,897
He's a sociopath meaning
he neither has a conscience
660
00:28:11,931 --> 00:28:13,174
nor does he have a heart.
661
00:28:13,208 --> 00:28:14,727
- You make it sound
like "Blade Runner"
662
00:28:14,762 --> 00:28:18,213
when the replicant knows
you've found him out
663
00:28:18,248 --> 00:28:19,628
and he doesn't feel
anything anyway.
664
00:28:19,663 --> 00:28:21,320
- He doesn't feel anything.
665
00:28:22,252 --> 00:28:23,460
[gun firing]
666
00:28:23,494 --> 00:28:25,565
- Empathy is a
normal human trait,
667
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:28,914
it's actually normal
in all mammals.
668
00:28:28,948 --> 00:28:32,434
It starts in childhood
with a parent and a child
669
00:28:32,469 --> 00:28:34,782
and it continues
throughout society,
670
00:28:34,816 --> 00:28:36,300
it's what glues people together
671
00:28:36,335 --> 00:28:39,131
instead of just fighting
against each other.
672
00:28:39,165 --> 00:28:43,756
Almost everybody has
empathy, but not everybody.
673
00:28:43,791 --> 00:28:45,482
People who don't have empathy
674
00:28:45,516 --> 00:28:49,072
are the people that we call
sociopaths or psychopaths.
675
00:28:50,452 --> 00:28:53,490
- That sounds like a very
destructive business philosophy.
676
00:28:53,524 --> 00:28:55,561
- They often were
treated cruelly.
677
00:28:55,595 --> 00:28:58,150
They were treated without
empathy themselves.
678
00:28:58,184 --> 00:29:00,946
- You talk in your book
about getting even,
679
00:29:00,980 --> 00:29:02,671
the importance of getting even.
680
00:29:02,706 --> 00:29:04,501
Is revenge sweet?
681
00:29:04,535 --> 00:29:06,503
- I believe strongly
in getting even.
682
00:29:06,537 --> 00:29:07,987
If somebody has hurt you,
683
00:29:08,022 --> 00:29:09,817
if somebody has gone out
of their way to hurt you,
684
00:29:09,851 --> 00:29:11,750
I think that if you
have the opportunity
685
00:29:11,784 --> 00:29:13,406
you should certainly
go out of your way
686
00:29:13,441 --> 00:29:14,925
to do a number on them
687
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,790
and I've had more criticism
about that one statement
688
00:29:17,825 --> 00:29:19,758
in my book than any
other statement,
689
00:29:19,792 --> 00:29:22,243
the clergy has
called, the ministers,
690
00:29:22,277 --> 00:29:24,003
the priests, the rabbis,
691
00:29:24,038 --> 00:29:26,247
they've all said, "What
a terrible thing to say,
692
00:29:26,281 --> 00:29:27,696
"that's against our teachings."
693
00:29:27,731 --> 00:29:29,802
I just believe it, I believe
in an eye for an eye.
694
00:29:29,837 --> 00:29:32,253
- If you don't have
normal empathy,
695
00:29:32,287 --> 00:29:36,188
you're going to mistreat people
because they don't matter,
696
00:29:36,222 --> 00:29:38,086
there's an abscense of loyalty.
697
00:29:38,121 --> 00:29:40,709
The absence of loyalty is a sign
698
00:29:40,744 --> 00:29:42,781
of anti-social
personality disorder.
699
00:29:44,230 --> 00:29:47,440
Loyalty at its best means
I care about this person,
700
00:29:47,475 --> 00:29:48,476
I value this person,
701
00:29:48,510 --> 00:29:50,512
so I will stick by this person.
702
00:29:50,547 --> 00:29:52,652
If you have a person
without empathy,
703
00:29:52,687 --> 00:29:55,034
what you find is that
loyalty disappears
704
00:29:55,069 --> 00:29:58,279
as soon as the other
person crosses them.
705
00:29:58,313 --> 00:30:01,385
As soon as somebody says,
"I'm not with you anymore,"
706
00:30:01,420 --> 00:30:03,180
or, "I disagree,"
707
00:30:03,215 --> 00:30:06,218
it flips from you are
the greatest person
708
00:30:06,252 --> 00:30:09,324
to you are a horrible person,
you are a worthless person,
709
00:30:09,359 --> 00:30:12,258
and I will attack you,
I will destroy you.
710
00:30:13,708 --> 00:30:14,847
- Some of the people that
were most loyal to me
711
00:30:14,882 --> 00:30:16,573
are people that I
didn't think would be,
712
00:30:16,607 --> 00:30:18,333
some of the people that
were least loyal to me
713
00:30:18,368 --> 00:30:19,541
are people that are--
- You gotta.
714
00:30:19,576 --> 00:30:21,026
- I think I would've
treated 'em differently,
715
00:30:21,060 --> 00:30:22,510
I think I would've treated
different groups differently,
716
00:30:22,544 --> 00:30:25,858
I would've wiped the floor
with the guys weren't loyal,
717
00:30:25,893 --> 00:30:27,756
which I will now
do which is great.
718
00:30:27,791 --> 00:30:29,517
You know I love getting
even with people but,
719
00:30:29,551 --> 00:30:31,243
- You're gonna get
even with some people
720
00:30:31,277 --> 00:30:33,176
because they--
- Yeah,
721
00:30:33,210 --> 00:30:34,694
if given the opportunity,
722
00:30:34,729 --> 00:30:36,696
I will get even with some
people that were disloyal to me.
723
00:30:36,731 --> 00:30:38,871
- Here comes one of the
things they say about you
724
00:30:38,906 --> 00:30:42,530
is that there ticks within
you a vindictiveness.
725
00:30:42,564 --> 00:30:44,187
- The people who
climb to the top
726
00:30:44,221 --> 00:30:46,189
by squashing other people,
727
00:30:46,223 --> 00:30:49,192
those are what we call
a successful sociopath.
728
00:30:49,226 --> 00:30:53,403
Sociopaths can be successful
because they are conmen.
729
00:30:53,437 --> 00:30:54,922
If you're a conman,
730
00:30:54,956 --> 00:30:57,269
you're convincing them that
you are much better, greater,
731
00:30:57,303 --> 00:31:00,030
more caring, more
honest than you are.
732
00:31:02,032 --> 00:31:04,276
- My name's Rick Reilly,
I'm a golf writer,
733
00:31:04,310 --> 00:31:07,900
and I've known Trump
for 35 years maybe.
734
00:31:07,935 --> 00:31:10,558
[upbeat music]
735
00:31:12,940 --> 00:31:15,908
Trump is among our best
golfing presidents.
736
00:31:15,943 --> 00:31:17,220
- [Crowd Member] Oh, nice.
737
00:31:17,254 --> 00:31:19,567
- For a 72-year-old guy,
Trump is a good golfer.
738
00:31:19,601 --> 00:31:23,364
He's got a really good,
powerful move through the ball
739
00:31:23,398 --> 00:31:27,299
and he hits it a long way
and his putting is good,
740
00:31:27,333 --> 00:31:30,267
he's a very wristy sort
of old-school putter.
741
00:31:30,302 --> 00:31:33,477
Cheating in golf at
all is completely wrong
742
00:31:33,512 --> 00:31:35,617
because it's the easiest
sport to cheat at.
743
00:31:35,652 --> 00:31:37,792
There's no refs,
there's no umps.
744
00:31:37,826 --> 00:31:40,208
You could cheat every
shot if you wanted
745
00:31:40,243 --> 00:31:43,142
but it reveals your
character that you don't,
746
00:31:43,177 --> 00:31:45,489
or it reveals your
character that you do
747
00:31:45,524 --> 00:31:46,939
and he cheats all the time.
748
00:31:46,974 --> 00:31:48,492
- I actually played
golf with him
749
00:31:48,527 --> 00:31:51,254
with Anthony Anderson one day.
750
00:31:51,288 --> 00:31:52,496
- [Seth] Gotcha.
751
00:31:52,531 --> 00:31:53,773
- And we were all
playing together
752
00:31:53,808 --> 00:31:55,327
and we clearly saw him
hit a ball, hook a ball,
753
00:31:55,361 --> 00:31:58,054
into a lake at Trump
National in Jersey
754
00:31:58,088 --> 00:32:00,953
and his caddy told
him he found it.
755
00:32:00,988 --> 00:32:03,611
[Seth laughs]
756
00:32:03,645 --> 00:32:07,097
- People don't know this but
he jerry rigs his golf carts
757
00:32:07,132 --> 00:32:08,409
to go really fast.
758
00:32:08,443 --> 00:32:09,686
He has somebody do that.
759
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,240
Only one golf cart at
every course he owns
760
00:32:12,275 --> 00:32:14,622
goes about 30 miles an
hour and that's his,
761
00:32:14,656 --> 00:32:15,968
it's number one,
762
00:32:16,003 --> 00:32:18,660
everyone else goes about
15 to 18 miles per hour.
763
00:32:18,695 --> 00:32:21,180
So he can hit the
ball, zip he's out,
764
00:32:21,215 --> 00:32:22,699
and you're still,
"Hey, where's Trump?"
765
00:32:22,733 --> 00:32:23,942
You hit, you hit.
766
00:32:23,976 --> 00:32:26,013
By then he can kick the
ball, move the ball,
767
00:32:26,047 --> 00:32:27,980
take it out of lakes, whatever.
768
00:32:28,015 --> 00:32:29,533
There's your ball.
769
00:32:29,568 --> 00:32:31,984
Usually, you would put a mark
down and pick up the ball.
770
00:32:32,019 --> 00:32:35,160
What he does, he
secretly puts the marker
771
00:32:35,194 --> 00:32:37,024
on the end of the putter
772
00:32:37,058 --> 00:32:38,784
and then he looks
like he's marking it
773
00:32:38,818 --> 00:32:41,442
but really now the mark
is three feet closer,
774
00:32:41,476 --> 00:32:43,168
that's a way easier putt.
775
00:32:43,202 --> 00:32:45,722
He tried to cheat Tiger Woods
in a round of golf once,
776
00:32:45,756 --> 00:32:47,620
Tiger freaking Woods.
777
00:32:47,655 --> 00:32:49,001
He's off to the right.
778
00:32:49,036 --> 00:32:50,969
He's playing
against Tiger Woods.
779
00:32:51,003 --> 00:32:52,901
They each have a partner.
780
00:32:52,936 --> 00:32:57,630
He chokes one flat
into the water, splash.
781
00:32:57,665 --> 00:32:58,804
He says to his partner,
782
00:32:58,838 --> 00:33:00,185
"Throw me another
one, they didn't see."
783
00:33:00,219 --> 00:33:02,221
I'm like, "That's Tiger Woods."
784
00:33:02,256 --> 00:33:03,636
- Tiger, we are inspired
785
00:33:03,671 --> 00:33:07,019
by everything you have
become and attained.
786
00:33:07,054 --> 00:33:09,332
The job you've
done is incredible.
787
00:33:09,366 --> 00:33:12,024
- He's telling people he's
won club championships
788
00:33:12,059 --> 00:33:14,130
that he didn't even play in.
789
00:33:14,164 --> 00:33:15,476
He won a club championship
790
00:33:15,510 --> 00:33:18,513
that's being played in
Bedminster, New Jersey,
791
00:33:18,548 --> 00:33:20,377
when he was playing
in Philadelphia
792
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,001
and he called in and said,
793
00:33:23,035 --> 00:33:25,348
"Hey, what won the club
championship today?"
794
00:33:25,382 --> 00:33:29,524
And the guy goes, "Ah,
75, Joe Shmoe won it."
795
00:33:29,559 --> 00:33:33,080
"Oh, I shot 73 today,
make me the champion."
796
00:33:33,114 --> 00:33:35,358
And the pro's like, "Ha, what?"
797
00:33:35,392 --> 00:33:37,532
"Yeah, make me the champion.
798
00:33:37,567 --> 00:33:39,534
"I played better here today."
799
00:33:39,569 --> 00:33:42,020
So, Joe Shmoe's name
comes off the wall,
800
00:33:42,054 --> 00:33:44,056
maybe one of the great
moments of his life
801
00:33:44,091 --> 00:33:46,058
and Trump's name goes up
802
00:33:46,093 --> 00:33:48,267
and this has happened
over and over again.
803
00:33:48,302 --> 00:33:51,960
And then he won at
least six or seven times
804
00:33:51,995 --> 00:33:53,686
tournaments where
he was the only guy
805
00:33:53,721 --> 00:33:55,205
playing in the tournament.
806
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,069
He'll buy a new golf course,
807
00:33:57,104 --> 00:33:59,416
play the first round
by himself and Melania,
808
00:33:59,451 --> 00:34:02,247
and unless Melania gets hot,
he's gonna be the winner
809
00:34:02,281 --> 00:34:04,180
and so if you go to
any of his courses
810
00:34:04,214 --> 00:34:06,734
his first few
years it's just him
811
00:34:06,768 --> 00:34:08,115
because no one else played.
812
00:34:09,461 --> 00:34:12,119
As a writer, I
love Donald Trump.
813
00:34:13,292 --> 00:34:16,123
I loved him 'cause he
would say anything.
814
00:34:16,157 --> 00:34:17,779
He was like, "Yeah, I
banged Marilyn Monroe
815
00:34:17,814 --> 00:34:19,264
"and I punched out Sinatra."
816
00:34:19,298 --> 00:34:21,128
And we're like, "Yeah,
what else you got?"
817
00:34:21,162 --> 00:34:22,715
Because he'd say anything.
818
00:34:22,750 --> 00:34:25,649
But as an American, I
don't like him at all.
819
00:34:25,684 --> 00:34:27,099
He terrifies me.
820
00:34:27,134 --> 00:34:28,549
If he's gonna cheat at golf,
821
00:34:28,583 --> 00:34:30,482
you don't think he's
gonna cheat on his taxes?
822
00:34:30,516 --> 00:34:32,070
You don't think he's
gonna cheat on his wives?
823
00:34:32,104 --> 00:34:33,795
You don't think he's gonna
cheat to win an election?
824
00:34:33,830 --> 00:34:36,108
You don't think he's gonna
cheat to stop an investigation?
825
00:34:36,143 --> 00:34:38,421
You don't think he's gonna
cheat to break rules,
826
00:34:38,455 --> 00:34:40,492
to get information
from foreign countries?
827
00:34:40,526 --> 00:34:42,494
My God, he just
admitted he does it.
828
00:34:47,015 --> 00:34:48,155
- I'm Bill Kristol.
829
00:34:48,189 --> 00:34:49,570
I came to Washington
over 30 years ago
830
00:34:49,604 --> 00:34:50,985
to work in the Reagan
Administration.
831
00:34:51,019 --> 00:34:52,504
I was Chief of Staff
to the Vice President
832
00:34:52,538 --> 00:34:54,471
in the George H.W.
Bush White House
833
00:34:54,506 --> 00:34:56,024
so I worked in government,
834
00:34:56,059 --> 00:34:57,750
worked in some
Republican politics,
835
00:34:57,785 --> 00:35:00,926
edited The Weekly Standard
for a little over two decades.
836
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:02,410
- I'm Richard Painter.
837
00:35:02,445 --> 00:35:05,241
I'm a law professor at the
University of Minnesota.
838
00:35:05,275 --> 00:35:07,001
I was the Chief White
House Ethics Lawyer
839
00:35:07,035 --> 00:35:08,796
for President George W. Bush.
840
00:35:10,211 --> 00:35:13,387
Most of my life I was
in the Republican party.
841
00:35:15,389 --> 00:35:18,046
- I'm Malcom Nance, a former
U.S. Intelligence officer.
842
00:35:18,081 --> 00:35:20,808
Started out actually
in cryptology
843
00:35:20,842 --> 00:35:22,189
and sort of an expert
844
00:35:22,223 --> 00:35:25,261
in all things related to
foreign intelligence operations,
845
00:35:25,295 --> 00:35:29,196
counterterrorism, and now
Russian intelligence activities
846
00:35:29,230 --> 00:35:30,335
in the United States.
847
00:35:32,578 --> 00:35:33,683
- What a great looking group.
848
00:35:33,717 --> 00:35:37,204
We're taking some pictures?
849
00:35:37,238 --> 00:35:40,172
- We can just move right along.
850
00:35:40,207 --> 00:35:43,175
- The traits that are
important in a leader vary
851
00:35:43,210 --> 00:35:45,798
but there are some
absolute constants
852
00:35:45,833 --> 00:35:48,698
and the way to look
at them is the titles
853
00:35:48,732 --> 00:35:53,737
and the core values that we
see for each armed service,
854
00:35:55,049 --> 00:35:58,086
honor, courage,
commitment, country, duty,
855
00:35:58,121 --> 00:36:01,193
service above self,
excellence in all that we do,
856
00:36:01,228 --> 00:36:03,920
always faithful,
always prepared.
857
00:36:03,954 --> 00:36:06,233
These are some of
the core values
858
00:36:06,267 --> 00:36:09,650
that we entrust in our
national military leaders
859
00:36:09,684 --> 00:36:11,686
and those should be
the same core values
860
00:36:11,721 --> 00:36:14,344
that we should have in
our political leaders.
861
00:36:14,379 --> 00:36:15,759
- To be a good leader,
862
00:36:15,794 --> 00:36:17,934
a person has to first
of all recognize
863
00:36:17,968 --> 00:36:22,214
that other people have
rights and individualities
864
00:36:22,249 --> 00:36:24,251
that you need to
take into account.
865
00:36:24,285 --> 00:36:27,599
You appreciate who they are
and what's important to them.
866
00:36:27,633 --> 00:36:29,670
The problem arises in leadership
867
00:36:29,704 --> 00:36:32,397
when you have a person
who does not appreciate
868
00:36:32,431 --> 00:36:35,710
that others are there
as independent folks
869
00:36:35,745 --> 00:36:37,298
but who are there to serve you.
870
00:36:38,472 --> 00:36:41,199
- We expect leaders to
bring people together,
871
00:36:41,233 --> 00:36:45,375
to try to unify the
country as best they can.
872
00:36:45,410 --> 00:36:47,205
The number of attacks
that this president
873
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:51,036
is making on Twitter
are astronomical,
874
00:36:51,070 --> 00:36:54,039
and then the attacks on
the media on top of that.
875
00:36:54,073 --> 00:36:56,628
- I've never really liked
the Trump is an idiot,
876
00:36:56,662 --> 00:37:00,942
Trump is a buffoon aspect
of the anti-Trump rhetoric.
877
00:37:00,977 --> 00:37:03,462
I think it does diminish
more than it should
878
00:37:03,497 --> 00:37:05,775
some of the real
dangers he poses.
879
00:37:07,673 --> 00:37:10,124
- [Interviewer] Do you think
Donald Trump is fit to serve
880
00:37:10,158 --> 00:37:11,608
as Commander in Chief?
881
00:37:11,643 --> 00:37:13,265
- No, he's not fit to serve,
882
00:37:13,300 --> 00:37:15,716
I think either by
character or judgment,
883
00:37:15,750 --> 00:37:17,476
I don't agree with his policies,
884
00:37:17,511 --> 00:37:18,926
I don't think he
has much experience,
885
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:20,721
he doesn't know how
government works
886
00:37:20,755 --> 00:37:24,483
but that can all be
tolerated or survived
887
00:37:24,518 --> 00:37:28,729
but in terms of his just
basic character and judgment,
888
00:37:28,763 --> 00:37:30,972
his basic sense of
putting the country first,
889
00:37:31,007 --> 00:37:33,009
at least in key moments,
890
00:37:33,043 --> 00:37:36,150
every politician has moments
where he cuts corners
891
00:37:36,184 --> 00:37:38,497
and watches out for
himself or herself
892
00:37:40,016 --> 00:37:41,293
but Trump is the opposite.
893
00:37:42,501 --> 00:37:43,985
I think it's a miracle
when he actually seems
894
00:37:44,020 --> 00:37:46,333
not to simply put his own
narrow interests first,
895
00:37:46,367 --> 00:37:49,163
and the recklessness,
and the demagoguery,
896
00:37:49,197 --> 00:37:54,202
so undercuts democratic norms
and constitutional processes
897
00:37:55,342 --> 00:37:56,343
that it's dangerous
to the country.
898
00:37:58,345 --> 00:37:59,656
- Why do they hate his guts?
899
00:37:59,691 --> 00:38:01,140
They hate his guts
900
00:38:01,175 --> 00:38:04,005
because he represents a
threat to their status quo.
901
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:05,593
It's a very weird salad
902
00:38:05,628 --> 00:38:07,354
because it doesn't
fit in the box
903
00:38:07,388 --> 00:38:10,460
of the traditional
Republican establishment
904
00:38:10,495 --> 00:38:12,497
or the Democratic Party.
905
00:38:12,531 --> 00:38:14,533
I mean, he is a reflection
906
00:38:14,568 --> 00:38:17,122
of our politically
correct society.
907
00:38:17,156 --> 00:38:19,193
If I'm not allowed to
say what I'm thinking
908
00:38:19,227 --> 00:38:21,160
and everyone's got
me in a tight box,
909
00:38:21,195 --> 00:38:24,543
when I go into the voting
booth I'm gonna vote for him.
910
00:38:24,578 --> 00:38:27,650
The more politically
correct the society is,
911
00:38:27,684 --> 00:38:29,721
the greater the
reaction formation is
912
00:38:29,755 --> 00:38:31,723
of the orange man comes to town.
913
00:38:38,523 --> 00:38:40,939
- Why I support
Trump is pretty easy.
914
00:38:42,423 --> 00:38:46,565
He is the only president in
the last probably 40 years
915
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,430
that has been for the people.
916
00:38:54,228 --> 00:38:57,404
- I had an epiphany at
my first Trump rally.
917
00:38:57,438 --> 00:39:00,890
I tell people that it was
a reconnection to my life
918
00:39:00,924 --> 00:39:04,238
because I grew up in a
blue-collar situation
919
00:39:04,272 --> 00:39:06,758
and I hustled my
way to some dough,
920
00:39:06,792 --> 00:39:08,829
went to Tufts and
Harvard Law School,
921
00:39:08,863 --> 00:39:10,175
I worked at Goldman,
922
00:39:10,209 --> 00:39:12,384
built two successful
hedge fund businesses,
923
00:39:12,419 --> 00:39:14,766
started to become
independently wealthy
924
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:16,112
and then what ends up happening
925
00:39:16,146 --> 00:39:18,286
is you pick up the
collective biases
926
00:39:18,321 --> 00:39:19,771
of the people around you
927
00:39:19,805 --> 00:39:22,014
and so you don't really have
a good ear to the ground.
928
00:39:22,049 --> 00:39:24,431
And so when I got to
the first Trump rally,
929
00:39:24,465 --> 00:39:26,743
I crossed the
security perimeter,
930
00:39:26,778 --> 00:39:28,296
went in and started
talking to people,
931
00:39:28,331 --> 00:39:29,712
and I was like, "Oh, my God,
932
00:39:31,092 --> 00:39:33,025
"Mr. Trump is talking to
the people I grew up with."
933
00:39:33,060 --> 00:39:35,752
And these are people that
economically desperate.
934
00:39:35,787 --> 00:39:39,860
We went from a
economically middle class,
935
00:39:39,894 --> 00:39:41,033
and lower middle class,
936
00:39:41,068 --> 00:39:44,036
working class
aspirational society
937
00:39:44,071 --> 00:39:47,868
to a desperational
society in 35 years
938
00:39:47,902 --> 00:39:49,594
and I can explain what happened
939
00:39:49,628 --> 00:39:52,286
through the forces of
trade and globalism
940
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:55,289
and our mistakes about
repositioning manufacturing
941
00:39:55,323 --> 00:39:56,808
away from the United States,
942
00:39:56,842 --> 00:39:58,085
all of those things that we did,
943
00:39:58,119 --> 00:40:01,088
some of it accidental,
some of it intentional,
944
00:40:01,122 --> 00:40:03,124
left a very large
group of people
945
00:40:03,159 --> 00:40:05,092
feeling very, very desperate
946
00:40:05,126 --> 00:40:08,475
about their economic
aspirations and their wellbeing
947
00:40:08,509 --> 00:40:11,443
and so that first
Trump rally I was like,
948
00:40:11,478 --> 00:40:13,341
"Whoa, there's a lot
of people out here
949
00:40:13,376 --> 00:40:15,758
"that are in a lot of
pain and I missed it."
950
00:40:16,621 --> 00:40:18,795
They have economic anxiety
951
00:40:18,830 --> 00:40:22,281
and they are going to vote
to reject the status quo,
952
00:40:23,144 --> 00:40:24,491
it's an anger-based vote
953
00:40:24,525 --> 00:40:28,943
and you have to work on
policy solutions to fix that,
954
00:40:28,978 --> 00:40:29,979
you have to heal that
955
00:40:30,013 --> 00:40:32,257
because when you create a breach
956
00:40:32,291 --> 00:40:34,639
in the social fabric
of the society,
957
00:40:34,673 --> 00:40:36,917
you create a systemic
rise of populism
958
00:40:36,951 --> 00:40:38,470
and you get all of
these unintended,
959
00:40:38,505 --> 00:40:41,162
or unexpected
political outcomes.
960
00:40:41,197 --> 00:40:43,648
I didn't see it myself,
but Trump saw it
961
00:40:43,682 --> 00:40:46,616
and so that's something you
have to give him credit for.
962
00:40:46,651 --> 00:40:48,825
Here is a billionaire
so you'd have to say
963
00:40:48,860 --> 00:40:50,827
this is a completely
out of touch dude
964
00:40:50,862 --> 00:40:52,450
but he saw it, I did not see it
965
00:40:52,484 --> 00:40:54,003
and I grew up with it.
966
00:40:54,037 --> 00:40:57,144
[gentle piano music]
967
00:40:57,178 --> 00:40:59,491
So, take a step back.
968
00:40:59,526 --> 00:41:02,494
We racked up $18
trillion of debt,
969
00:41:02,529 --> 00:41:04,634
we killed a million
people in the Middle East,
970
00:41:04,669 --> 00:41:07,844
we wounded 70,000
servicemen and women,
971
00:41:07,879 --> 00:41:10,157
7,000 servicemen
and women have died
972
00:41:10,191 --> 00:41:13,367
and 22 are dying a day
in the United States
973
00:41:13,401 --> 00:41:16,508
from suicide related to
posttraumatic stress.
974
00:41:16,543 --> 00:41:20,512
Our educational system K-12 is
completely uneven and broken,
975
00:41:20,547 --> 00:41:23,653
our infrastructure
completely failed and broken,
976
00:41:23,688 --> 00:41:26,000
we have no industrial policy,
977
00:41:26,035 --> 00:41:27,657
there's nobody in
the United States
978
00:41:27,692 --> 00:41:30,142
as a public servant
that has a 10-year plan,
979
00:41:30,177 --> 00:41:31,903
they don't even have
a five-year plan.
980
00:41:31,937 --> 00:41:35,631
So the American population
is looking at the situation
981
00:41:35,665 --> 00:41:37,909
and saying, "Wait a minute,
this is not working for me."
982
00:41:37,943 --> 00:41:39,566
The stock market crashes
983
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:42,223
and the very big bank is
about to go out of business,
984
00:41:42,258 --> 00:41:45,157
the government sends them
$1 trillion to protect them
985
00:41:45,192 --> 00:41:46,745
what about me?
986
00:41:46,780 --> 00:41:49,921
And so people feel that
the system is rigged
987
00:41:49,955 --> 00:41:52,130
and the system is
unfair towards them.
988
00:41:53,476 --> 00:41:56,928
You call these people
deplorable, white ethnocentrics,
989
00:41:56,962 --> 00:41:58,826
white nationalists,
990
00:41:58,861 --> 00:42:02,934
whatever those knuckle
dragging misnomers,
991
00:42:02,968 --> 00:42:06,731
those adjectives of
attack on these people,
992
00:42:06,765 --> 00:42:07,801
they tune you out.
993
00:42:09,147 --> 00:42:10,700
You'd be better served
994
00:42:10,735 --> 00:42:13,600
going into those areas of the
country and listening to them
995
00:42:13,634 --> 00:42:14,601
and say, "Hey, you know what?
996
00:42:14,635 --> 00:42:15,740
"I don't think you're a racist
997
00:42:15,774 --> 00:42:18,363
"or you're a white trash person,
998
00:42:18,397 --> 00:42:19,882
"I think you're a person
999
00:42:19,916 --> 00:42:21,435
"that really just wants your
family to have a better life
1000
00:42:21,469 --> 00:42:22,574
"and as a public servant,
1001
00:42:22,609 --> 00:42:24,369
"I'm gonna try to
come up with policies
1002
00:42:24,403 --> 00:42:25,543
"that help you do that."
1003
00:42:26,613 --> 00:42:28,028
David Axelrod said to me,
1004
00:42:28,062 --> 00:42:29,926
"Remember, Anthony, people
will vote for somebody
1005
00:42:29,961 --> 00:42:31,445
"they won't like.
1006
00:42:31,479 --> 00:42:33,447
"They gave Richard Nixon a
landslide, nobody liked him,
1007
00:42:33,481 --> 00:42:35,035
"they gave him a landslide.
1008
00:42:35,069 --> 00:42:36,554
"What they don't like doing
1009
00:42:36,588 --> 00:42:39,073
"is they don't like voting
for people that dislike them."
1010
00:42:39,108 --> 00:42:40,592
See the difference?
1011
00:42:40,627 --> 00:42:42,594
So you're standing at a podium
calling people deplorable,
1012
00:42:42,629 --> 00:42:45,045
they're like, "Okay, give
my vote to the orange man.
1013
00:42:45,079 --> 00:42:46,287
"Let's see how he does."
1014
00:42:49,256 --> 00:42:50,706
[crowd cheering]
1015
00:42:50,740 --> 00:42:53,294
- I think Trump speaks to people
in a really very good way.
1016
00:42:54,641 --> 00:42:58,230
He is appealing to people
who are hurt, angry,
1017
00:42:58,265 --> 00:43:01,164
they feel bypassed, ignored,
1018
00:43:01,199 --> 00:43:03,304
and not taken seriously.
1019
00:43:04,478 --> 00:43:07,067
The problem is that
he doesn't speak
1020
00:43:07,101 --> 00:43:09,794
to the humanity of the people
who don't agree with him.
1021
00:43:11,934 --> 00:43:15,109
- They're bringing drugs,
they're bringing crime,
1022
00:43:15,144 --> 00:43:16,628
they're rapists.
1023
00:43:16,663 --> 00:43:18,941
We're building that wall
and it's going up very big.
1024
00:43:18,975 --> 00:43:21,806
[crowd cheering]
1025
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:23,808
- If you have any racism in you,
1026
00:43:23,842 --> 00:43:25,188
Trump's gonna let
you bring it out.
1027
00:43:25,223 --> 00:43:26,845
I get to be a jerk again.
1028
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:29,986
I get to be 1956 America again.
1029
00:43:30,021 --> 00:43:34,094
- It's not a racist, this guy
treats everybody like shit.
1030
00:43:34,128 --> 00:43:35,854
He's not a racist, okay?
1031
00:43:35,889 --> 00:43:37,753
It doesn't matter if
you're black, white,
1032
00:43:37,787 --> 00:43:41,308
lesbian, transgender, he
treats everybody the same.
1033
00:43:41,342 --> 00:43:44,967
He went to Elton John's
wedding, he's an asshole,
1034
00:43:45,001 --> 00:43:47,314
that's different
from being a racist.
1035
00:43:47,348 --> 00:43:48,695
He's obviously an asshole.
1036
00:43:50,213 --> 00:43:53,320
- It's so sad that so many
people have let their worst side
1037
00:43:53,354 --> 00:43:55,011
come out through Trump.
1038
00:43:55,046 --> 00:43:56,979
- Get the fuck out of here!
1039
00:43:57,013 --> 00:43:58,774
Our country, motherfucker!
1040
00:43:58,808 --> 00:44:00,568
Our country!
1041
00:44:00,603 --> 00:44:03,675
Go fucking cook
my burrito, bitch!
1042
00:44:03,710 --> 00:44:05,194
Trump!
1043
00:44:05,228 --> 00:44:06,402
I love Trump!
1044
00:44:06,436 --> 00:44:07,299
Fuck you!
1045
00:44:07,334 --> 00:44:08,680
- Are you racist?
1046
00:44:08,715 --> 00:44:12,580
- I am the least racist
person that you have ever met.
1047
00:44:12,615 --> 00:44:15,031
I look at my African
American over here.
1048
00:44:15,066 --> 00:44:16,377
Look at him.
1049
00:44:16,412 --> 00:44:17,551
Are you the greatest?
1050
00:44:17,585 --> 00:44:19,691
You know what I'm talking about?
1051
00:44:19,726 --> 00:44:22,314
I have a great relationship
with the blacks.
1052
00:44:22,349 --> 00:44:24,558
I've always had a great
relationship with the blacks.
1053
00:44:24,592 --> 00:44:25,801
I love the old days.
1054
00:44:25,835 --> 00:44:27,388
You know what they used
to do to guys like that
1055
00:44:27,423 --> 00:44:28,873
when they're in a
place like this?
1056
00:44:28,907 --> 00:44:31,565
They'd be carried out
on a stretcher, folks.
1057
00:44:31,599 --> 00:44:36,156
- I resisted for quite some time
1058
00:44:36,190 --> 00:44:38,848
the notion that he is racist.
1059
00:44:38,883 --> 00:44:42,231
It's more a function of his
narcissism than anything else,
1060
00:44:42,265 --> 00:44:44,164
it's not really racism.
1061
00:44:44,198 --> 00:44:47,754
That was sort of the
way I viewed Trump,
1062
00:44:47,788 --> 00:44:50,446
that he doesn't like them
because they oppose him
1063
00:44:51,654 --> 00:44:52,862
and that's really
what it's about,
1064
00:44:52,897 --> 00:44:54,243
it's all function
of his narcissism
1065
00:44:54,277 --> 00:44:57,246
and when he says things
that were supportive
1066
00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:00,421
of some of those bad
people at Charlottesville,
1067
00:45:00,456 --> 00:45:02,354
that's again a function
of his narcissism
1068
00:45:02,389 --> 00:45:05,841
because the people who
were attacking those people
1069
00:45:05,875 --> 00:45:07,428
were attacking him.
1070
00:45:07,463 --> 00:45:09,534
- You had a group on
one side that was bad
1071
00:45:09,568 --> 00:45:11,087
and you had a group
on the other side
1072
00:45:11,122 --> 00:45:13,365
that was also very violent
1073
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:18,060
but you also had people
that were very fine people,
1074
00:45:18,094 --> 00:45:19,475
on both sides.
1075
00:45:19,509 --> 00:45:22,374
You had people in that
group, excuse me, excuse me,
1076
00:45:22,409 --> 00:45:24,756
I saw the same
pictures as you did.
1077
00:45:24,791 --> 00:45:27,103
- [Crowd] Russia is our friend.
1078
00:45:27,138 --> 00:45:29,485
The south will rise again.
1079
00:45:29,519 --> 00:45:31,452
- You had people in that group
1080
00:45:31,487 --> 00:45:33,075
that were there to protest
1081
00:45:33,109 --> 00:45:35,802
the taking down of the
statue Robert E. Lee.
1082
00:45:36,941 --> 00:45:39,322
To them, a very, very
important statue.
1083
00:45:39,357 --> 00:45:41,290
- [Crowd] You will
not replace us.
1084
00:45:42,429 --> 00:45:44,258
- My mother came
from the Philippines.
1085
00:45:44,293 --> 00:45:48,746
She came to the United
States in the late 1950s
1086
00:45:48,780 --> 00:45:50,678
so I'm half Filipino
and the other half
1087
00:45:50,713 --> 00:45:53,578
is some mixture
of Irish-Scottish,
1088
00:45:53,612 --> 00:45:56,581
I'm classic American mutt.
1089
00:45:56,615 --> 00:45:58,134
I think of myself as an American
1090
00:45:58,169 --> 00:46:00,550
and I just assume
people aren't racist
1091
00:46:01,931 --> 00:46:06,453
and I tend to forget that,
well, some people are
1092
00:46:07,523 --> 00:46:09,456
and that's the
lesson with Trump is
1093
00:46:09,490 --> 00:46:11,803
I just gave him the
benefit of the doubt.
1094
00:46:11,838 --> 00:46:16,256
- These are people that
if they don't like it here
1095
00:46:16,290 --> 00:46:17,326
they can leave.
1096
00:46:18,983 --> 00:46:22,193
- But what he said about
those members of Congress,
1097
00:46:22,227 --> 00:46:24,264
it brought back that memory
1098
00:46:24,298 --> 00:46:26,473
of the one time I
really remember, wow,
1099
00:46:26,507 --> 00:46:28,475
there really are
people like that here.
1100
00:46:29,683 --> 00:46:34,308
I was with my mother
when I was a teenager
1101
00:46:34,343 --> 00:46:37,864
in a parking lot in
Massachusetts when
somebody said to her,
1102
00:46:39,141 --> 00:46:40,521
"Go back to your country."
1103
00:46:43,317 --> 00:46:45,457
Sorry, and I found that to be,
1104
00:46:45,492 --> 00:46:49,323
and it really came
home to me then.
1105
00:46:49,358 --> 00:46:52,326
This man is a
racist, he is evil.
1106
00:46:52,361 --> 00:46:55,709
- The Democrat Party
is now being led
1107
00:46:55,743 --> 00:46:58,125
by four left wing extremists
1108
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:01,853
who reject everything
that we hold dear.
1109
00:47:01,888 --> 00:47:03,199
- [Crowd] Send her back!
1110
00:47:03,234 --> 00:47:04,580
Send her back!
1111
00:47:04,614 --> 00:47:06,030
Send her back!
1112
00:47:06,064 --> 00:47:07,583
Send her back!
1113
00:47:07,617 --> 00:47:08,446
Send her back!
1114
00:47:09,723 --> 00:47:12,381
- He's a racist
beyond any question.
1115
00:47:13,623 --> 00:47:14,832
- [Crowd] USA!
1116
00:47:14,866 --> 00:47:16,074
USA!
1117
00:47:16,109 --> 00:47:19,871
- The first time I
saw Trump at a rally
1118
00:47:19,906 --> 00:47:22,598
telling the crowd
that he loved them
1119
00:47:22,632 --> 00:47:25,083
but he also hated
everybody else,
1120
00:47:25,118 --> 00:47:26,878
when I saw him leading them
1121
00:47:26,913 --> 00:47:30,261
in a loyalty oath using
emotions in that way
1122
00:47:30,295 --> 00:47:33,781
I realized that this was
not politics as usual.
1123
00:47:40,443 --> 00:47:42,756
- Raise you right
hand, everybody.
1124
00:47:43,895 --> 00:47:45,586
Do you swear that you're going
1125
00:47:45,621 --> 00:47:47,519
to vote for Donald
Trump tomorrow?
1126
00:47:47,554 --> 00:47:49,245
Raise that hand.
1127
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:51,075
I love you, I love you.
1128
00:47:51,109 --> 00:47:55,907
- He had talked about being
president for many, many years
1129
00:47:55,942 --> 00:47:58,634
with his advisor of
the time, Steve Bannon,
1130
00:47:58,668 --> 00:48:02,017
who is a White Nationalist,
an unabashed racist.
1131
00:48:02,051 --> 00:48:05,089
Steve Bannon considers
himself a student of history
1132
00:48:05,123 --> 00:48:09,541
and he likes to think that he
knows the cycles of history
1133
00:48:09,576 --> 00:48:11,923
in terms of
resentment and racism
1134
00:48:11,958 --> 00:48:13,683
and in this case,
he was correct.
1135
00:48:15,237 --> 00:48:18,136
- [Narrator] This
is Italy in 1922.
1136
00:48:18,171 --> 00:48:20,311
These marching men
are charter members
1137
00:48:20,345 --> 00:48:23,555
of a new Italian political
party, the fascists,
1138
00:48:23,590 --> 00:48:26,662
founded and led by a
flamboyant ex-editor,
1139
00:48:26,696 --> 00:48:30,838
ex-army corporal,
ex-socialist, Benito Mussolini.
1140
00:48:30,873 --> 00:48:33,082
His movement numbers
a million members
1141
00:48:33,117 --> 00:48:35,429
including uniformed Black Shirts
1142
00:48:35,464 --> 00:48:38,053
and Mussolini successfully
forces his leadership
1143
00:48:38,087 --> 00:48:40,503
on the Italian king and people.
1144
00:48:40,538 --> 00:48:42,747
Despite the fact
that 80% of Italians
1145
00:48:42,781 --> 00:48:45,163
still support the
constitutional monarchy,
1146
00:48:45,198 --> 00:48:47,579
his threats of
violence and revolution
1147
00:48:47,614 --> 00:48:49,443
win him the office of Premier.
1148
00:48:51,204 --> 00:48:52,860
On his first anniversary,
1149
00:48:52,895 --> 00:48:56,588
with the aid of gunfire,
kidnapping and castor oil,
1150
00:48:56,623 --> 00:48:58,452
he is absolute dictator.
1151
00:48:59,833 --> 00:49:03,181
- At the time Mussolini came
on the political scene in 1919,
1152
00:49:04,458 --> 00:49:06,598
Italy was a limited democracy.
1153
00:49:06,633 --> 00:49:08,842
People had the vote,
women could vote,
1154
00:49:11,017 --> 00:49:13,329
and Mussolini came in
as a revolutionary,
1155
00:49:13,364 --> 00:49:16,643
as a rabble-rouser to
completely shake things up.
1156
00:49:16,677 --> 00:49:19,197
One of the most crucial moments
of authoritarian capture
1157
00:49:19,232 --> 00:49:21,096
is when traditional elites
1158
00:49:21,130 --> 00:49:25,307
invite the
authoritarian-in-the-making
into power.
1159
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:29,587
Fascism was a very
violent movement.
1160
00:49:31,175 --> 00:49:33,108
The political establishment,
1161
00:49:33,142 --> 00:49:34,972
these traditional conservatives,
1162
00:49:35,006 --> 00:49:38,458
were so frightened of the
continuation of the violence
1163
00:49:38,492 --> 00:49:42,117
that they actually invited
him to become Prime Minister.
1164
00:49:42,151 --> 00:49:44,119
He was invited into the office
1165
00:49:44,153 --> 00:49:46,742
and they thought that
he could be contained
1166
00:49:46,776 --> 00:49:48,502
and he would do their dirty work
1167
00:49:48,537 --> 00:49:50,504
and then they could control him
1168
00:49:50,539 --> 00:49:53,818
and tragically,
that was not to be.
1169
00:49:53,852 --> 00:49:55,509
He attacked the press.
1170
00:49:55,544 --> 00:49:59,686
He attacked democracy
as something that
was not necessary.
1171
00:49:59,720 --> 00:50:02,896
He joked about having
term limits removed.
1172
00:50:04,725 --> 00:50:07,314
His arch enemy,
Giacomo Matteotti,
1173
00:50:07,349 --> 00:50:09,006
the leader of the
Socialist Party,
1174
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:12,043
was seen being taken
away by fascist thugs.
1175
00:50:12,078 --> 00:50:13,596
Eventually, his body was found
1176
00:50:13,631 --> 00:50:15,046
but it was a huge outrage
1177
00:50:15,081 --> 00:50:17,566
and a special
investigation was launched
1178
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:19,326
with the prosecutor
1179
00:50:19,361 --> 00:50:20,879
and in the course of this,
1180
00:50:20,914 --> 00:50:23,503
Mussolini's career
looked like it was over
1181
00:50:23,537 --> 00:50:25,574
and he was being asked to resign
1182
00:50:25,608 --> 00:50:30,613
and to end this, he declared a
dictatorship in January 1925.
1183
00:50:31,752 --> 00:50:33,064
He changed the
special prosecutors.
1184
00:50:33,099 --> 00:50:36,102
The assassins were given
light prison sentences
1185
00:50:36,136 --> 00:50:37,551
and eventually pardoned
1186
00:50:37,586 --> 00:50:40,071
because dictators love
to pardon criminals
1187
00:50:41,486 --> 00:50:44,558
and the Italian society
was never the same again.
1188
00:50:47,113 --> 00:50:51,013
[chanting in foreign language]
1189
00:50:52,980 --> 00:50:56,087
There are times in history
when figures appear
1190
00:50:56,122 --> 00:51:00,264
who are able to coalesce
existing hatreds and anxieties
1191
00:51:00,298 --> 00:51:01,817
that exist in a culture
1192
00:51:01,851 --> 00:51:05,476
and form from them a
movement through rallies,
1193
00:51:05,510 --> 00:51:08,479
through propaganda,
through promises to them.
1194
00:51:08,513 --> 00:51:11,585
- We will be ending
the AIDS epidemic
1195
00:51:11,620 --> 00:51:14,312
and curing childhood cancer.
1196
00:51:14,347 --> 00:51:16,107
- [Ruth] Only they
know the truth,
1197
00:51:16,142 --> 00:51:18,075
only they can fix the problems.
1198
00:51:18,109 --> 00:51:21,492
- We are finally
putting America first.
1199
00:51:22,769 --> 00:51:24,288
- My name is Cheryl Koos
1200
00:51:24,322 --> 00:51:27,843
and I'm a historian
of interwar Europe,
1201
00:51:27,877 --> 00:51:30,501
and fascism and
authoritarianism.
1202
00:51:32,054 --> 00:51:35,644
Hitler gained his followers by
promising them a better life,
1203
00:51:35,678 --> 00:51:36,748
a better Germany
1204
00:51:36,783 --> 00:51:38,819
but he also had a scapegoat.
1205
00:51:38,854 --> 00:51:42,685
- Jews as diseased
and foreign objects.
1206
00:51:42,720 --> 00:51:45,688
One of the most dangerous things
about authoritarian leaders
1207
00:51:45,723 --> 00:51:48,622
is that they're particular
personal quirks,
1208
00:51:48,657 --> 00:51:51,591
their obsessions,
their preoccupations
1209
00:51:51,625 --> 00:51:53,800
often become state policy.
1210
00:51:53,834 --> 00:51:55,767
- And I think one of the
manifestations of that
1211
00:51:55,802 --> 00:51:59,046
that we've seen in policy is
the Zero Tolerance Policy.
1212
00:51:59,081 --> 00:52:03,327
- Immigration is the fault
in all of the problems
1213
00:52:03,361 --> 00:52:04,604
that we're having.
1214
00:52:04,638 --> 00:52:06,053
You look at what's
happening in Europe,
1215
00:52:06,088 --> 00:52:07,710
you look at what's
happening in other places,
1216
00:52:07,745 --> 00:52:10,368
we can't allow that to
happen to the United States,
1217
00:52:10,403 --> 00:52:11,680
not on my watch.
1218
00:52:11,714 --> 00:52:14,441
- The separating of
children from parents,
1219
00:52:14,476 --> 00:52:16,443
think about the kind
of mind to think,
1220
00:52:16,478 --> 00:52:18,169
"I know how we're gonna
restrict immigration.
1221
00:52:18,204 --> 00:52:21,034
"Let's take their
children away [cackles]"
1222
00:52:21,068 --> 00:52:24,313
I mean, it's a cruel,
almost cartoonishly evil,
1223
00:52:24,348 --> 00:52:25,797
kind of thing to do.
1224
00:52:25,832 --> 00:52:27,834
- Who's number one
with Hispanics?
1225
00:52:27,868 --> 00:52:29,387
Trump.
1226
00:52:29,422 --> 00:52:32,321
- It's a violation
of human rights
1227
00:52:32,356 --> 00:52:35,290
to take children away
from their parents,
1228
00:52:35,324 --> 00:52:39,225
to be so uncaring about
the permanent effect
1229
00:52:39,259 --> 00:52:41,641
on these children, and
it is gonna be permanent,
1230
00:52:41,675 --> 00:52:44,575
is cruel and sadistic behavior,
1231
00:52:44,609 --> 00:52:46,646
it's completely
different from saying
1232
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:48,475
we need to have strong borders,
1233
00:52:48,510 --> 00:52:51,513
or we need to limit immigration
or something like that.
1234
00:52:51,547 --> 00:52:54,205
Those things, if
they are worth doing,
1235
00:52:54,240 --> 00:52:57,277
can be done without
destroying children's lives.
1236
00:52:59,521 --> 00:53:00,729
- One institution,
in my opinion,
1237
00:53:00,763 --> 00:53:03,663
that hasn't stood up
for themselves at all
1238
00:53:03,697 --> 00:53:06,044
are Congress and the
Republican Party.
1239
00:53:06,079 --> 00:53:09,393
- It's quite extraordinary
that the Republic Party,
1240
00:53:09,427 --> 00:53:14,398
they're slotting right into
behavior in Italy in 1920s
1241
00:53:15,571 --> 00:53:18,298
and Germany in the
early 1930s and so on.
1242
00:53:20,266 --> 00:53:21,439
- [Donald] I wanna
know who's the person
1243
00:53:21,474 --> 00:53:24,373
who gave the whistleblower,
1244
00:53:24,408 --> 00:53:27,238
who's the person who gave the
whistleblower the information?
1245
00:53:27,273 --> 00:53:28,757
Because that's close to a spy.
1246
00:53:29,930 --> 00:53:31,622
You know what we used
to do in the old days
1247
00:53:31,656 --> 00:53:33,244
when we were smart?
1248
00:53:33,279 --> 00:53:35,384
The spies and treason,
1249
00:53:35,419 --> 00:53:38,215
we used to handle it a little
differently than we do now.
1250
00:53:39,837 --> 00:53:42,149
- He does not
believe in democracy.
1251
00:53:43,323 --> 00:53:46,292
The way he rules in the
White House shows that.
1252
00:53:46,326 --> 00:53:49,156
It reminded me of something
I read by Ivana Trump
1253
00:53:49,191 --> 00:53:50,951
when he was married to her
1254
00:53:50,986 --> 00:53:52,815
and in their divorce proceedings
1255
00:53:52,850 --> 00:53:57,544
she had written that he liked
reading Hitler's speeches,
1256
00:53:57,579 --> 00:54:00,271
and Hitler's speeches
would always build you up
1257
00:54:00,306 --> 00:54:03,136
to this crescendo of shouting
1258
00:54:03,170 --> 00:54:05,587
and repeating things three times
1259
00:54:05,621 --> 00:54:07,830
because if you repeat
something three times,
1260
00:54:07,865 --> 00:54:09,315
it breaks through
to the audience
1261
00:54:09,349 --> 00:54:11,972
and it becomes a
fact in their mind.
1262
00:54:12,007 --> 00:54:13,457
- And I want you all to know
1263
00:54:13,491 --> 00:54:15,804
that we are fighting
the fake news,
1264
00:54:15,838 --> 00:54:17,633
it's fake, phony, fake.
1265
00:54:17,668 --> 00:54:20,360
[crowd cheering]
1266
00:54:23,605 --> 00:54:24,813
A few days ago
1267
00:54:24,847 --> 00:54:27,402
I called the fake news
the enemy of the people,
1268
00:54:27,436 --> 00:54:30,474
and they are, they are
the enemy of the people.
1269
00:54:32,441 --> 00:54:35,858
- The big lie technique
that came from Nazis,
1270
00:54:35,893 --> 00:54:38,516
so now we're faced
with the same problem.
1271
00:54:38,551 --> 00:54:40,691
People say over and
over and over again
1272
00:54:40,725 --> 00:54:42,831
something which has
never been true,
1273
00:54:42,865 --> 00:54:47,042
it's a lie, basically,
or it may be a prejudice
1274
00:54:47,076 --> 00:54:48,319
but when you repeat it,
1275
00:54:48,354 --> 00:54:51,322
unless it's challenged
quickly and effectively,
1276
00:54:51,357 --> 00:54:55,222
it becomes the norm, it
becomes accepted wisdom
1277
00:54:55,257 --> 00:54:57,535
even though it's
completely wrong.
1278
00:54:57,570 --> 00:54:58,709
- Repeat everything three times
1279
00:54:58,743 --> 00:55:00,711
and the third time
it becomes the truth.
1280
00:55:00,745 --> 00:55:03,369
He is capitalizing on that.
1281
00:55:03,403 --> 00:55:05,060
- The Authoritarian Playbook
1282
00:55:05,094 --> 00:55:10,099
is a way that these kinds
of men capture democracy.
1283
00:55:11,515 --> 00:55:14,690
After they get power, they
proceed to tame the judiciary,
1284
00:55:14,725 --> 00:55:16,796
they attack the press
1285
00:55:16,830 --> 00:55:19,626
and the ultimate aim is
to get people to believe
1286
00:55:19,661 --> 00:55:22,698
that reality is
what they say it is.
1287
00:55:22,733 --> 00:55:23,906
- The fake news, right?
1288
00:55:23,941 --> 00:55:24,873
The fake news.
1289
00:55:24,907 --> 00:55:28,048
[crowd cheering]
1290
00:55:28,083 --> 00:55:30,050
- They are not about
the greater good
1291
00:55:30,085 --> 00:55:32,881
and calling people to
their better angels,
1292
00:55:32,915 --> 00:55:37,920
they're about fostering a sense
of victimization and fear,
1293
00:55:39,059 --> 00:55:42,718
and how the nation
could be purer,
1294
00:55:42,753 --> 00:55:46,377
and how the nation
would be better
1295
00:55:46,412 --> 00:55:49,725
without X, Y and Z elements.
1296
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:50,864
- Hail Trump!
1297
00:55:50,899 --> 00:55:52,072
Hail our people!
1298
00:55:52,107 --> 00:55:53,211
Hail victory!
1299
00:55:54,385 --> 00:55:55,593
- [Interviewer] So,
is it appropriate
1300
00:55:55,628 --> 00:55:58,009
to compare Trump to Hitler?
1301
00:55:58,044 --> 00:56:00,115
- I compare Trump to
Hitler all the time
1302
00:56:00,149 --> 00:56:04,015
and that makes people angry and
I'm not gonna stop doing it,
1303
00:56:04,050 --> 00:56:06,501
and I'll tell you why I'm
not gonna stop doing it
1304
00:56:06,535 --> 00:56:09,366
because my father
was a great historian
1305
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:11,437
and student of Jewish history
1306
00:56:11,471 --> 00:56:13,024
and he used to say
to me all the time,
1307
00:56:13,059 --> 00:56:16,200
"John, the meaning of
history is in the Holocaust."
1308
00:56:16,234 --> 00:56:17,753
We cannot be silent.
1309
00:56:18,927 --> 00:56:21,067
It's not that he's
as bad as Hitler
1310
00:56:21,101 --> 00:56:23,380
or that he's the
equivalent of Hitler,
1311
00:56:23,414 --> 00:56:25,761
but he has the same
diagnosis as Hitler.
1312
00:56:25,796 --> 00:56:27,694
He's in the same category,
1313
00:56:27,729 --> 00:56:30,214
that it's a psychological type
1314
00:56:30,248 --> 00:56:32,872
that can be more or less extreme
1315
00:56:32,906 --> 00:56:35,150
but they share these
common characteristics,
1316
00:56:35,184 --> 00:56:36,910
they're cut from the same cloth.
1317
00:56:42,571 --> 00:56:45,885
Those of us who've been
raised in this current era,
1318
00:56:45,919 --> 00:56:47,818
we don't realize how
spoiled we've been.
1319
00:56:47,852 --> 00:56:50,924
We've been raised from the
World War II boom of prosperity
1320
00:56:50,959 --> 00:56:52,995
to today, one of
the greatest periods
1321
00:56:53,030 --> 00:56:55,273
of peace and prosperity
in human history
1322
00:56:56,447 --> 00:56:59,174
and we've also
taken it for granted
1323
00:56:59,208 --> 00:57:01,314
that our democracy was solid,
1324
00:57:01,348 --> 00:57:03,109
that liberal democracy
1325
00:57:03,143 --> 00:57:05,180
is now becoming the
touchstone for the planet,
1326
00:57:05,214 --> 00:57:07,458
that's what we believed
three years ago
1327
00:57:07,493 --> 00:57:11,738
but Plato predicted
thousands of years ago
1328
00:57:11,773 --> 00:57:14,672
that democracies
always end in autocracy
1329
00:57:18,365 --> 00:57:20,644
and we're so naive that
we don't understand
1330
00:57:20,678 --> 00:57:23,647
that every democracy
is always vulnerable
1331
00:57:23,681 --> 00:57:27,789
to being taken over and
turned into an autocracy.
1332
00:57:27,823 --> 00:57:30,136
- We are in the third era
1333
00:57:30,170 --> 00:57:33,588
of the rise of
charismatic threatening
strongmen in history.
1334
00:57:33,622 --> 00:57:35,590
The first was during
the Fascist period
1335
00:57:35,624 --> 00:57:37,350
in the '20s and '30s.
1336
00:57:37,384 --> 00:57:41,147
After World War II, you
had anticolonial strongmen
1337
00:57:41,181 --> 00:57:43,045
like Mobutu and Qaddafi
1338
00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:46,946
and today, we have a
new crop of leaders
1339
00:57:46,980 --> 00:57:49,500
who are threatening
liberal democracy
1340
00:57:49,535 --> 00:57:52,054
or have already
partly destroyed it.
1341
00:57:52,089 --> 00:57:54,229
- Trump has helped autocrats
all around the world just,
1342
00:57:54,263 --> 00:57:57,163
I mean, almost immediately
out of the box.
1343
00:57:57,197 --> 00:57:58,371
Erdogan in Turkey.
1344
00:57:58,405 --> 00:57:59,855
- [Translator]
Turkey has the right
1345
00:57:59,890 --> 00:58:02,133
to eliminate all possible
threats towards sovereignty,
1346
00:58:02,168 --> 00:58:04,204
with or without it's allies.
1347
00:58:04,239 --> 00:58:05,896
- [Malcom] el-Sisi in Egypt.
1348
00:58:07,035 --> 00:58:08,243
- [Translator] Whenever
there is a minority
1349
00:58:08,277 --> 00:58:10,694
trying to impose their
extremist ideology,
1350
00:58:10,728 --> 00:58:13,490
we have to intervene
regardless of their numbers.
1351
00:58:13,524 --> 00:58:15,146
[speaks in foreign language]
1352
00:58:15,181 --> 00:58:16,493
- [Malcolm] Even in Libya,
1353
00:58:16,527 --> 00:58:19,012
they're backing the
strongman al-Haftar.
1354
00:58:19,047 --> 00:58:20,358
- His most important aim
1355
00:58:20,393 --> 00:58:21,981
is take over the
capital, of course,
1356
00:58:22,015 --> 00:58:23,845
because the one who
takes over the capital
1357
00:58:23,879 --> 00:58:25,571
is the one in power.
1358
00:58:25,605 --> 00:58:28,366
- [Malcolm] You have presidents
like Bolsonaro in Brazil.
1359
00:58:28,401 --> 00:58:29,575
[speaks in foreign language]
1360
00:58:29,609 --> 00:58:30,852
- [Translator]
These red outcasts
1361
00:58:30,886 --> 00:58:32,819
will be banished
from our homeland,
1362
00:58:32,854 --> 00:58:35,926
it will be a cleansing never
seen in Brazilian history.
1363
00:58:36,892 --> 00:58:38,031
- [Malcolm] You have strongmen
1364
00:58:38,066 --> 00:58:40,102
in the Philippines like Duterte.
1365
00:58:40,137 --> 00:58:43,071
- Hitler massacred
three million Jews.
1366
00:58:44,486 --> 00:58:47,385
Now, there is three
million drug addicts,
1367
00:58:49,698 --> 00:58:51,528
I'd be happy to slaughter them.
1368
00:58:51,562 --> 00:58:53,564
- [Malcolm] Vladimir Putin.
1369
00:58:53,599 --> 00:58:57,395
[speaks in foreign language]
1370
00:59:05,162 --> 00:59:07,233
[crowd cheering]
1371
00:59:07,267 --> 00:59:09,407
- Russia is actually fueling
1372
00:59:09,442 --> 00:59:12,203
right wing extremist
governments in Europe,
1373
00:59:12,238 --> 00:59:13,722
they're funding them.
1374
00:59:13,757 --> 00:59:16,276
AFD in Germany, Alternative
for Deutschland.
1375
00:59:17,484 --> 00:59:21,592
[crowd chanting in
foreign language]
1376
00:59:23,421 --> 00:59:26,735
They're the second largest
political party in Germany
1377
00:59:26,770 --> 00:59:31,775
fueled mainly by hatred of
liberalism and immigration.
1378
00:59:32,983 --> 00:59:36,400
These people are all
fellow travelers now
1379
00:59:36,434 --> 00:59:37,815
and as fellow travelers,
1380
00:59:37,850 --> 00:59:39,610
they all believe
in the same thing
1381
00:59:39,645 --> 00:59:44,166
and they believe that democracy
is a failed experiment
1382
00:59:44,201 --> 00:59:48,481
and that the polar axis
of the world should shift.
1383
00:59:48,515 --> 00:59:53,003
We are in a battle for our
political and ideological lives,
1384
00:59:53,037 --> 00:59:57,076
what was America is now
under siege around the world.
1385
00:59:57,110 --> 01:00:00,769
This is a dangerous,
dangerous time for the world.
1386
01:00:00,804 --> 01:00:05,463
Are we moving to a time where
the 1930s have been forgotten
1387
01:00:05,498 --> 01:00:09,502
and people are viewing it
a template not a warning?
1388
01:00:10,814 --> 01:00:14,265
- The only way we can
perpetuate a democracy
1389
01:00:14,300 --> 01:00:16,958
is by people
sharing those values
1390
01:00:16,992 --> 01:00:20,478
and thinking that that is
something to be upheld.
1391
01:00:20,513 --> 01:00:22,964
- I mean, Trump is a
symptom of a lot of things,
1392
01:00:22,998 --> 01:00:25,829
including a rise of a
kind of ethnonationalism
1393
01:00:25,863 --> 01:00:27,382
and authoritarianism
1394
01:00:27,416 --> 01:00:31,041
but he is a symptom who's
become a very important cause.
1395
01:00:31,075 --> 01:00:33,181
The United States
is standing against
1396
01:00:33,215 --> 01:00:37,219
ethnonationalist sentiments
and authoritarian regimes
1397
01:00:37,254 --> 01:00:38,669
around the world,
1398
01:00:38,704 --> 01:00:41,810
I think that puts a certain
amount of check on them.
1399
01:00:41,845 --> 01:00:44,226
With the American
president on their side,
1400
01:00:44,261 --> 01:00:46,850
it's an exponential
shot in the arm
1401
01:00:46,884 --> 01:00:50,405
for them and an exponential
weakening of liberal democracy
1402
01:00:50,439 --> 01:00:51,337
around the world.
1403
01:00:55,237 --> 01:00:59,552
- I actually go back to,
believe it or not, chimpanzees.
1404
01:01:03,073 --> 01:01:06,179
When Jane Goodall was
observing chimpanzees,
1405
01:01:06,214 --> 01:01:09,182
one of the things she showed
us was how loving they were,
1406
01:01:10,287 --> 01:01:11,737
and how human they were,
1407
01:01:12,841 --> 01:01:14,153
and she bonded with them
1408
01:01:14,187 --> 01:01:15,395
and formed these
relationships with them
1409
01:01:15,430 --> 01:01:18,536
and then the males would
compete for dominance.
1410
01:01:18,571 --> 01:01:19,986
They'd pound their chest,
1411
01:01:20,021 --> 01:01:21,608
and they'd throw
dirt up in the air,
1412
01:01:21,643 --> 01:01:23,196
and they'd throw heavy
rocks into the river
1413
01:01:23,231 --> 01:01:25,164
to show who is more powerful
1414
01:01:25,198 --> 01:01:27,166
but no one ever really got hurt.
1415
01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:28,857
It was all called
display behavior
1416
01:01:28,892 --> 01:01:30,721
just to show who
was the toughest
1417
01:01:30,756 --> 01:01:32,861
and that person would
become the alpha.
1418
01:01:32,896 --> 01:01:34,760
What happened, though,
after many years
1419
01:01:34,794 --> 01:01:37,521
is that troop that she
observed became so big
1420
01:01:37,555 --> 01:01:40,041
that they split into two troops.
1421
01:01:40,075 --> 01:01:43,561
So everything she taught
us about chimpanzees
1422
01:01:43,596 --> 01:01:46,116
is really what we would
call within group behavior,
1423
01:01:46,150 --> 01:01:48,774
it says nothing about
between group behavior.
1424
01:01:51,397 --> 01:01:53,054
Once the troops had split apart,
1425
01:01:54,331 --> 01:01:57,265
a very aggressive
charismatic alpha male
1426
01:01:57,299 --> 01:01:59,854
from one of the groups would
start beating his chest,
1427
01:01:59,888 --> 01:02:01,890
and hooting, and
slapping the other males,
1428
01:02:01,925 --> 01:02:03,202
and getting them excited
1429
01:02:03,236 --> 01:02:04,962
and then they would
start marching
1430
01:02:04,997 --> 01:02:06,205
toward the other
group's territory
1431
01:02:06,239 --> 01:02:08,034
and the other males
would follow him
1432
01:02:08,069 --> 01:02:10,934
[percussive music]
1433
01:02:10,968 --> 01:02:12,798
and they would wait at
the edge of the territory
1434
01:02:12,832 --> 01:02:14,109
for another male,
1435
01:02:14,144 --> 01:02:16,560
maybe even someone
they were friends with
1436
01:02:16,594 --> 01:02:18,493
when the troop was one troop
1437
01:02:18,527 --> 01:02:20,495
and they will
barrel down the hill
1438
01:02:20,529 --> 01:02:22,083
and beat that male to death.
1439
01:02:22,117 --> 01:02:25,465
[chimpanzees shrieking]
1440
01:02:26,777 --> 01:02:28,261
And they'll do
that systematically
1441
01:02:28,296 --> 01:02:29,676
until they're able to take over
1442
01:02:29,711 --> 01:02:31,748
the other group's
females and their land.
1443
01:02:33,335 --> 01:02:36,235
Now, think about this from an
evolutionary point of view.
1444
01:02:36,269 --> 01:02:38,271
Who's genes got to move on?
1445
01:02:40,101 --> 01:02:43,276
The troop with the malignant,
narcissistic leaders
1446
01:02:43,311 --> 01:02:45,900
that said, "Let's go kill
all the other chimpanzees."
1447
01:02:45,934 --> 01:02:49,075
[chimpanzees shrieking]
1448
01:02:49,110 --> 01:02:52,251
So this is very deep in
our genetic programming
1449
01:02:52,285 --> 01:02:54,701
and this is why
demagogues like Trump
1450
01:02:54,736 --> 01:02:57,014
are able to be successful
1451
01:02:57,049 --> 01:03:00,811
because before Trump we had
fractures in our society
1452
01:03:00,846 --> 01:03:03,710
but we had this overarching
identity as Americans.
1453
01:03:03,745 --> 01:03:05,022
Donald Trump
fractures it and says,
1454
01:03:05,057 --> 01:03:07,024
"No, we're actually two troops
1455
01:03:07,059 --> 01:03:10,165
"and our troop is being
attacked by that troop
1456
01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:12,650
"and if we don't go over there
1457
01:03:12,685 --> 01:03:14,307
"and beat the crap out of them,
1458
01:03:14,342 --> 01:03:15,792
"they're gonna destroy us."
1459
01:03:16,723 --> 01:03:20,003
And that is like a siren song
1460
01:03:20,037 --> 01:03:21,970
to the deep genetic programming
1461
01:03:22,005 --> 01:03:24,317
in the base of our animal brains
1462
01:03:24,352 --> 01:03:26,872
that, yes, if
somebody convinces us
1463
01:03:26,906 --> 01:03:28,701
that other troop is
trying to kill us,
1464
01:03:28,735 --> 01:03:30,876
and I don't care how
bad my leader is,
1465
01:03:30,910 --> 01:03:32,843
but he's the one who's leading
us to the edge of the troop
1466
01:03:32,878 --> 01:03:35,673
so only one of us
is gonna survive
1467
01:03:35,708 --> 01:03:37,296
who cares if he's a liar?
1468
01:03:37,330 --> 01:03:38,573
We wanna survive
1469
01:03:38,607 --> 01:03:39,816
and the only way we survive
1470
01:03:39,850 --> 01:03:41,679
is by attacking
those other people.
1471
01:03:41,714 --> 01:03:45,994
That primitive programming
is actually not atypical,
1472
01:03:46,029 --> 01:03:48,652
they're not anomalous,
they're not unusual.
1473
01:03:48,686 --> 01:03:49,998
Humankind has been at war
1474
01:03:50,033 --> 01:03:51,862
in every place at
every time, right?
1475
01:03:51,897 --> 01:03:55,866
And they've been horrible in
war to burning down villages,
1476
01:03:55,901 --> 01:03:58,317
raping women, torturing
people, killing people,
1477
01:03:58,351 --> 01:04:02,562
that's actually normal for the
human animal, unfortunately.
1478
01:04:02,597 --> 01:04:05,082
It's the psychology of power.
1479
01:04:05,117 --> 01:04:06,566
[crowd cheering]
1480
01:04:06,601 --> 01:04:09,569
We all tend to fall
behind the powerful leader
1481
01:04:09,604 --> 01:04:12,227
out of self-preservation and
out of group perseveration,
1482
01:04:12,262 --> 01:04:13,746
it's the natural instinct.
1483
01:04:21,927 --> 01:04:23,342
- [Interviewer] What
are you most fearful of
1484
01:04:23,376 --> 01:04:26,414
about this president
being in control?
1485
01:04:26,448 --> 01:04:27,898
- Nuclear war.
1486
01:04:27,933 --> 01:04:31,074
I mean, that's the long-term,
that's the biggest risk,
1487
01:04:31,108 --> 01:04:34,801
is that he gets in
a confrontation with
a foreign leader,
1488
01:04:34,836 --> 01:04:39,841
North Korea, with China
where his ego's on the line.
1489
01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:41,463
- Several months ago,
1490
01:04:43,949 --> 01:04:48,919
a foreign policy expert
on an international level
1491
01:04:49,782 --> 01:04:51,473
went to advise Donald Trump
1492
01:04:51,508 --> 01:04:55,581
and three times he asked about
the use of nuclear weapons.
1493
01:04:56,685 --> 01:04:58,929
Three times he
asked, at one point,
1494
01:04:58,964 --> 01:05:01,759
"If we have them, why
can't we use them?"
1495
01:05:05,453 --> 01:05:08,974
- North Korea best not
make any more threats
1496
01:05:09,008 --> 01:05:10,527
to the United States,
1497
01:05:11,700 --> 01:05:15,152
they will be met
with fire and fury
1498
01:05:15,187 --> 01:05:20,054
the likes of which this
world has never seen before.
1499
01:05:20,088 --> 01:05:21,572
- A president of
the United States,
1500
01:05:21,607 --> 01:05:23,298
even if he's being a showman,
1501
01:05:23,333 --> 01:05:27,509
saying that we will bring
fire and fury to your country,
1502
01:05:27,544 --> 01:05:29,960
that is an implicit
nuclear threat.
1503
01:05:29,995 --> 01:05:32,411
Donald Trump does not
have the temperament
1504
01:05:32,445 --> 01:05:34,827
to be around these systems.
1505
01:05:34,861 --> 01:05:37,002
- Welcome to the White House.
1506
01:05:37,036 --> 01:05:39,590
This ceremony and the
treaty we are signing today
1507
01:05:39,625 --> 01:05:43,111
are both excellent examples
of the rewards of patience.
1508
01:05:43,146 --> 01:05:46,114
- [Narrator] It was 1987
and President Reagan
1509
01:05:46,149 --> 01:05:48,599
and Soviet leader
Mikhail Gorbachev
1510
01:05:48,634 --> 01:05:52,293
celebrated the Intermediate
Range Nuclear Forces Treaty
1511
01:05:52,327 --> 01:05:54,812
as calming Cold War tensions.
1512
01:05:56,228 --> 01:05:59,541
The INF scrapped thousands
of ground launched
1513
01:05:59,576 --> 01:06:01,716
nuclear and
conventional missiles
1514
01:06:02,924 --> 01:06:06,997
with ranges of from
300 to 3,400 miles.
1515
01:06:09,344 --> 01:06:10,863
- [Reporter] Moscow
and Washington
1516
01:06:10,897 --> 01:06:15,281
have repeatedly accused each
other of violating the treaty,
1517
01:06:15,316 --> 01:06:18,146
a deal that helps protect
the security of the U.S.
1518
01:06:18,181 --> 01:06:21,322
and its allies in
Europe and the Far East.
1519
01:06:21,356 --> 01:06:24,187
Russia has condemned
President Trump's intention
1520
01:06:24,221 --> 01:06:26,154
to withdraw from the pact,
1521
01:06:26,189 --> 01:06:27,914
the Deputy Foreign
Minister is saying
1522
01:06:27,949 --> 01:06:30,503
it would be a very
dangerous step.
1523
01:06:31,366 --> 01:06:33,748
- [Man] Sierra, Victor, Two.
1524
01:06:35,715 --> 01:06:37,717
- [Malcom] The President
of the United States
1525
01:06:37,752 --> 01:06:40,030
is a nuclear monarchy.
1526
01:06:40,065 --> 01:06:41,238
He is a king.
1527
01:06:41,273 --> 01:06:45,139
There are no safeguards
other than his whim,
1528
01:06:45,173 --> 01:06:48,038
that determines when he launches
an atomic bomb and where.
1529
01:06:49,212 --> 01:06:51,593
The briefcase that
he has, the football,
1530
01:06:51,628 --> 01:06:53,561
is a communications device
1531
01:06:53,595 --> 01:06:56,874
and all it does is
authenticates him
1532
01:06:56,909 --> 01:06:59,877
to the nuclear arsenal's
chain of command.
1533
01:06:59,912 --> 01:07:01,672
- [Commander] Unlock code enter,
1534
01:07:01,707 --> 01:07:03,226
Juliet, Papa, Papa.
1535
01:07:03,260 --> 01:07:05,573
- [Malcolm] And it
executes his order
1536
01:07:05,607 --> 01:07:07,471
once he has
authenticated himself.
1537
01:07:09,094 --> 01:07:10,060
- [Commander] Mark.
1538
01:07:10,095 --> 01:07:10,957
T-minus 50.
1539
01:07:12,959 --> 01:07:17,274
- Not one bomb's going,
multiple bombs are going
1540
01:07:17,309 --> 01:07:19,104
So when you choose that option,
1541
01:07:19,138 --> 01:07:24,074
that missile will blow that
country up in 35 minutes
1542
01:07:24,109 --> 01:07:25,765
and there is no turning it off.
1543
01:07:25,800 --> 01:07:28,975
Once they boost into
space, they're gone.
1544
01:07:30,632 --> 01:07:35,430
- The president has
the authority to order
a nuclear attack,
1545
01:07:35,465 --> 01:07:36,949
including a first strike
1546
01:07:36,983 --> 01:07:41,781
and it is extremely unlikely
that the military command
1547
01:07:41,816 --> 01:07:43,542
would not take his orders.
1548
01:07:43,576 --> 01:07:45,199
- The president can decide
1549
01:07:45,233 --> 01:07:48,098
that France is a
national security threat
1550
01:07:48,133 --> 01:07:50,997
and he can order an ICBM strike.
1551
01:07:51,032 --> 01:07:52,482
- [Man] That's not
the correct procedure.
1552
01:07:52,516 --> 01:07:53,793
- Screw the procedure.
1553
01:07:53,828 --> 01:07:55,243
I want somebody on
the goddamn phone
1554
01:07:55,278 --> 01:07:56,313
before I kill 20 million people.
1555
01:07:56,348 --> 01:07:57,659
- Sir, we have a launch order.
1556
01:07:57,694 --> 01:07:59,316
- [Timer] Four, three, two
1557
01:07:59,351 --> 01:08:01,663
- Put your hand
on the keys, sir.
1558
01:08:01,698 --> 01:08:02,871
- [Timer] One, launch.
1559
01:08:08,049 --> 01:08:09,464
- So what do you say to people
1560
01:08:09,499 --> 01:08:12,571
who say that Trump is a
bluffer, a strategic thinker,
1561
01:08:12,605 --> 01:08:14,366
he won't do this?
1562
01:08:15,781 --> 01:08:18,508
Are you willing to bet
your children's life on it?
1563
01:08:18,542 --> 01:08:20,096
Are you willing to bet the lives
1564
01:08:20,130 --> 01:08:22,753
of every person in
this nation on it?
1565
01:08:22,788 --> 01:08:24,272
And if you're
willing to say that
1566
01:08:24,307 --> 01:08:29,070
about any person who will
pathologically lie to you,
1567
01:08:30,313 --> 01:08:34,282
to your face, documentable,
quantifiably lie
1568
01:08:34,317 --> 01:08:39,149
to you, your wife, your
children on a daily basis,
1569
01:08:39,184 --> 01:08:42,739
then you don't really
understand what the stakes are.
1570
01:08:43,843 --> 01:08:46,743
[missile blasting]
1571
01:08:55,993 --> 01:09:00,481
We cannot allow that kind
of gamesmanship to continue,
1572
01:09:00,515 --> 01:09:04,381
this man controls those weapons.
1573
01:09:06,487 --> 01:09:09,524
- I don't think you
can understand Trump
1574
01:09:09,559 --> 01:09:13,321
or much else of what's
going on in the world today
1575
01:09:13,356 --> 01:09:17,877
without factoring in the
effects of death anxiety.
1576
01:09:19,327 --> 01:09:23,952
Are we doing what we're doing
for the reasons that we claim
1577
01:09:24,781 --> 01:09:26,196
or could there be something
1578
01:09:26,231 --> 01:09:29,165
that lurks beneath the
surface of consciousness?
1579
01:09:31,270 --> 01:09:32,513
In "The Denial of Death",
1580
01:09:32,547 --> 01:09:37,034
Becker argues that
it is our awareness
1581
01:09:37,069 --> 01:09:39,347
that we will inevitably die
1582
01:09:39,382 --> 01:09:42,557
and our inability to
accept the reality
1583
01:09:42,592 --> 01:09:45,767
of the human condition
with grace and courage
1584
01:09:45,802 --> 01:09:49,702
that underlies almost
all human activity.
1585
01:09:52,602 --> 01:09:56,053
What Freud pointed out
is that we're animals
1586
01:09:56,088 --> 01:09:57,952
and we don't like that,
1587
01:09:57,986 --> 01:10:00,403
we're breathing pieces
of defecating meat
1588
01:10:00,437 --> 01:10:02,267
that aren't any more significant
1589
01:10:02,301 --> 01:10:05,062
or enduring than
lizards or potatoes.
1590
01:10:05,097 --> 01:10:06,374
So, if you think about it,
1591
01:10:06,409 --> 01:10:07,617
I'm gonna die,
1592
01:10:07,651 --> 01:10:10,689
I could walk outside and
get smoked by a comet.
1593
01:10:10,723 --> 01:10:12,725
You wouldn't be able to
stand up in the morning.
1594
01:10:12,760 --> 01:10:15,072
You would literally
be overwhelmed
1595
01:10:15,107 --> 01:10:17,937
by paralyzing
existential terror.
1596
01:10:19,456 --> 01:10:24,116
What we do to bury that anxiety
is to embrace belief systems
1597
01:10:24,150 --> 01:10:26,636
that life has meaning
and we have value.
1598
01:10:27,637 --> 01:10:30,018
In a single word, culture.
1599
01:10:31,468 --> 01:10:36,301
So the prevailing belief in
the U.S. in the last century
1600
01:10:37,750 --> 01:10:40,305
is that America is the home
of the free and the brave,
1601
01:10:41,651 --> 01:10:44,757
anybody who works hard enough
1602
01:10:44,792 --> 01:10:46,932
can be just as successful
1603
01:10:46,966 --> 01:10:51,799
as Oprah, or Bill
Gates, or Warren Buffet
1604
01:10:51,833 --> 01:10:56,459
and that we will always be
the world's foremost economic,
1605
01:10:56,493 --> 01:10:59,979
as well as military power
1606
01:11:00,014 --> 01:11:02,499
and so one of the first knees
1607
01:11:02,534 --> 01:11:06,331
in our psychological
groin was 9/11
1608
01:11:07,470 --> 01:11:10,956
when both our military
and economic power
1609
01:11:10,990 --> 01:11:12,164
had been challenged,
1610
01:11:13,372 --> 01:11:16,582
then we get clobbered
with the recession,
1611
01:11:16,617 --> 01:11:18,964
combined with globalization,
1612
01:11:18,998 --> 01:11:21,277
combined with
demographic reality
1613
01:11:21,311 --> 01:11:23,417
that by the middle
of the century
1614
01:11:23,451 --> 01:11:26,696
white people will
be in the minority
1615
01:11:26,730 --> 01:11:28,870
and so for many Americans,
1616
01:11:28,905 --> 01:11:33,254
their world view have
been completely upended.
1617
01:11:34,082 --> 01:11:37,154
So fast forward to 2015,
1618
01:11:37,189 --> 01:11:40,468
Donald Trump declares that
he's running for President.
1619
01:11:41,504 --> 01:11:43,437
He comes down the escalator.
1620
01:11:43,471 --> 01:11:48,476
He's like, "Mexicans
are rapists, I'm
gonna keep you safe."
1621
01:11:49,650 --> 01:11:51,652
And I said to myself,
"That guy is gonna win."
1622
01:11:53,274 --> 01:11:57,313
- The American dream is dead.
1623
01:11:58,900 --> 01:12:01,627
- [Audience Member]
Bring it back.
1624
01:12:01,662 --> 01:12:04,354
- But if I get
elected president,
1625
01:12:04,389 --> 01:12:09,394
I will bring it back bigger
and better and stronger
1626
01:12:11,396 --> 01:12:13,156
than ever before
1627
01:12:13,190 --> 01:12:17,160
and we will make
America great again.
1628
01:12:17,194 --> 01:12:18,920
Thank you, thank you very much.
1629
01:12:18,955 --> 01:12:20,094
[crowd cheering]
1630
01:12:20,128 --> 01:12:21,820
- When the psychological
shit hits the fan,
1631
01:12:21,854 --> 01:12:23,166
if you'll pardon the expression,
1632
01:12:23,200 --> 01:12:25,927
and when people are economically
1633
01:12:25,962 --> 01:12:28,861
and psychologically insecure,
1634
01:12:28,896 --> 01:12:33,901
when somebody comes along
and confidently proclaims
1635
01:12:34,626 --> 01:12:36,352
in very simple terms
1636
01:12:36,386 --> 01:12:41,357
that they will keep them safe,
they will make them prosper,
1637
01:12:42,772 --> 01:12:45,878
they will bring back
the good old days,
1638
01:12:45,913 --> 01:12:48,950
that's the psychological hook.
1639
01:12:48,985 --> 01:12:52,678
If you look at it from
a detached perspective,
1640
01:12:52,713 --> 01:12:54,439
we're really at a crossroads,
1641
01:12:54,473 --> 01:12:57,959
the impending
environmental apocalypse
1642
01:12:57,994 --> 01:13:01,791
juxtaposed with simmering
ethnic tensions,
1643
01:13:01,825 --> 01:13:05,933
juxtaposed with rampant
economic inequality
1644
01:13:05,967 --> 01:13:10,972
and here we have Trump
magnifying all of
those difficulties.
1645
01:13:13,354 --> 01:13:15,770
What Trump also did masterfully
1646
01:13:15,805 --> 01:13:19,636
was to take nonexistent problems
1647
01:13:19,671 --> 01:13:22,915
and render them
potentially traumatic
1648
01:13:22,950 --> 01:13:26,229
by grotesquely
overemphasizing the danger.
1649
01:13:26,263 --> 01:13:28,438
- Look at the deal
he's making with Iran.
1650
01:13:28,473 --> 01:13:31,407
- Once you get on
board psychologically,
1651
01:13:31,441 --> 01:13:36,412
once you commit to a
demagogueish ideologue,
1652
01:13:37,343 --> 01:13:40,623
that puts up a fact proof screen
1653
01:13:40,657 --> 01:13:42,970
between you and the world.
1654
01:13:43,004 --> 01:13:45,593
Once you are fully on board,
1655
01:13:45,628 --> 01:13:50,633
there's no rational argument
that will alter your opinion.
1656
01:13:53,359 --> 01:13:56,121
There is always a tendency
for charismatic leaders
1657
01:13:56,155 --> 01:14:00,263
to bring out the tribal
nature of humans,
1658
01:14:00,297 --> 01:14:05,302
it is very easy to lapse into
an us versus them mentality.
1659
01:14:08,513 --> 01:14:11,792
Rationality will
lose every time.
1660
01:14:12,827 --> 01:14:14,864
- Where is the red line?
1661
01:14:14,898 --> 01:14:16,452
Where do you say,
1662
01:14:16,486 --> 01:14:18,695
"Okay, hey, No mas, I'm not
supporting this guy anymore?"
1663
01:14:18,730 --> 01:14:19,972
Where is the line?
1664
01:14:20,007 --> 01:14:21,491
So, it's obviously been
crossed by many people
1665
01:14:21,526 --> 01:14:25,495
but for me the line would be
when you look at our documents
1666
01:14:25,530 --> 01:14:27,117
and you look at
our constitution,
1667
01:14:27,152 --> 01:14:32,157
North Korea, Russia, Venezuela
has the exact same language,
1668
01:14:32,985 --> 01:14:34,470
go look at their constitution,
1669
01:14:34,504 --> 01:14:37,818
they have the same flowery
language related to human rights
1670
01:14:37,852 --> 01:14:39,405
and all of that stuff
1671
01:14:39,440 --> 01:14:43,340
but what make us unique
is the checks and balances
1672
01:14:43,375 --> 01:14:45,619
and the power diffusion
1673
01:14:45,653 --> 01:14:48,000
in the construction
of the government.
1674
01:14:48,035 --> 01:14:51,728
So if Trump starts
to trample on that,
1675
01:14:51,763 --> 01:14:54,386
then I'm gonna turn
on him, have to.
1676
01:14:54,420 --> 01:14:58,632
You can't disrupt a
243-year experiment
1677
01:14:58,666 --> 01:15:00,599
for one dude's personality.
1678
01:15:03,913 --> 01:15:05,086
- It has now been a week
1679
01:15:05,121 --> 01:15:06,640
since the Centers
for Disease Control
1680
01:15:06,674 --> 01:15:09,263
confirmed the first community
transmission of coronavirus
1681
01:15:09,297 --> 01:15:10,747
in the United States.
1682
01:15:10,782 --> 01:15:12,438
- We all have personalities.
1683
01:15:12,473 --> 01:15:14,751
Some people are more dependent,
1684
01:15:15,856 --> 01:15:18,168
some people are more aggressive.
1685
01:15:18,203 --> 01:15:19,549
It becomes pathological
1686
01:15:19,584 --> 01:15:22,034
when you see the whole
world through a screen
1687
01:15:22,069 --> 01:15:26,073
that makes everything
fit your need.
1688
01:15:27,419 --> 01:15:32,079
- Now the Democrats are
politicizing the coronavirus.
1689
01:15:33,494 --> 01:15:35,254
- [Lance] It's not just
being manipulative,
1690
01:15:35,289 --> 01:15:39,431
it's a fundamental inability
to not be that way.
1691
01:15:40,812 --> 01:15:44,609
- This big, vast land of ours,
this great country of ours,
1692
01:15:44,643 --> 01:15:46,542
we have 240 cases.
1693
01:15:46,576 --> 01:15:49,027
Most of those people
are gonna be fine.
1694
01:15:49,061 --> 01:15:51,305
- Donald Trump doesn't
care about experts.
1695
01:15:51,339 --> 01:15:52,548
- [Journalist] Can
you also weigh in
1696
01:15:52,582 --> 01:15:54,411
on this issue of
hydroxychloroquine?
1697
01:15:54,446 --> 01:15:55,689
What do you think about this
1698
01:15:55,723 --> 01:15:56,931
and what is the
medical evidence?
1699
01:15:56,966 --> 01:15:58,208
- How many times I've
answered that question?
1700
01:15:58,243 --> 01:15:59,037
Maybe 15.
1701
01:15:59,071 --> 01:15:59,865
- [Journalist] Doctor.
1702
01:15:59,900 --> 01:16:00,866
- 15 times.
1703
01:16:00,901 --> 01:16:02,316
- He only cares about people
1704
01:16:02,350 --> 01:16:04,387
who will tell him what
he already wants to hear.
1705
01:16:04,421 --> 01:16:06,872
He makes himself ignorant
about almost everything
1706
01:16:06,907 --> 01:16:09,599
because he only wants to
hear what he wants to hear.
1707
01:16:09,634 --> 01:16:11,083
- We have it so
well under control.
1708
01:16:11,118 --> 01:16:12,809
I mean, view this
the same as the flu.
1709
01:16:12,844 --> 01:16:14,086
When somebody sneezes,
1710
01:16:14,121 --> 01:16:17,434
I mean, I try and bail
out as much as possible
1711
01:16:17,469 --> 01:16:21,093
and I haven't touched my
face in weeks, in weeks.
1712
01:16:21,128 --> 01:16:21,922
- [Journalist] Mr.
President, the--
1713
01:16:21,956 --> 01:16:23,475
- I miss it.
1714
01:16:23,509 --> 01:16:26,098
- And one of the most
devastating things
he's been doing
1715
01:16:26,133 --> 01:16:31,069
is to emotionally
train Americans not
to care about others,
1716
01:16:31,103 --> 01:16:32,933
to extinguish compassion
1717
01:16:32,967 --> 01:16:35,314
and to extinguish
kindness in themselves.
1718
01:16:35,349 --> 01:16:37,351
He terms it being tough.
1719
01:16:37,385 --> 01:16:40,596
- He is giving people
a license to hate,
1720
01:16:40,630 --> 01:16:44,185
to provide a source of anger,
to go after each other,
1721
01:16:45,221 --> 01:16:47,499
how are we all tolerating this?
1722
01:16:47,533 --> 01:16:50,778
Loyalty is not blind obedience
1723
01:16:50,813 --> 01:16:52,849
unless you're supporting
a demagogue, okay?
1724
01:16:52,884 --> 01:16:55,680
And so you don't wanna ever
be like that in your life.
1725
01:16:55,714 --> 01:16:58,268
- Relax, we're doing great.
1726
01:16:58,303 --> 01:17:00,995
- [Reporter] The DOW is
now down nearly 900 points.
1727
01:17:01,030 --> 01:17:02,652
- [New Anchor] Economists
have been ramping up
1728
01:17:02,687 --> 01:17:03,929
their projections.
1729
01:17:03,964 --> 01:17:05,828
- [Reporter] The virus
spreading explosively
1730
01:17:05,862 --> 01:17:07,968
like quote, a bomb.
1731
01:17:08,002 --> 01:17:11,799
- To be president, you have
to exercise good judgment
1732
01:17:11,834 --> 01:17:15,527
on behalf of the American
people for their interests.
1733
01:17:15,561 --> 01:17:17,667
- They have to go back to work,
our country has to go back,
1734
01:17:17,702 --> 01:17:19,876
our country is based on that.
1735
01:17:21,050 --> 01:17:23,569
I think it's gonna
happen pretty quickly.
1736
01:17:23,604 --> 01:17:26,849
- It's got nothing to do with
the safety of the people,
1737
01:17:26,883 --> 01:17:27,953
it's about him.
1738
01:17:27,988 --> 01:17:30,680
It's not about the country.
1739
01:17:30,715 --> 01:17:32,855
- He spent a lot of
time on Twitter today
1740
01:17:32,889 --> 01:17:36,341
boasting about the
excellent television ratings
1741
01:17:36,375 --> 01:17:38,861
his news conferences
have received lately.
1742
01:17:38,895 --> 01:17:41,967
- We have Monday Night
Football-type ratings
1743
01:17:42,002 --> 01:17:45,591
and that these are
like "Bachelor" finale.
1744
01:17:45,626 --> 01:17:49,181
- He is not fit because
he is unable to think,
1745
01:17:49,216 --> 01:17:51,252
he can only react and attack.
1746
01:17:51,287 --> 01:17:52,737
- What do you say to Americans
1747
01:17:52,771 --> 01:17:55,360
who are watching you
right now who are scared?
1748
01:17:55,394 --> 01:17:57,086
- I say that you're
a terrible reporter.
1749
01:17:57,120 --> 01:17:59,398
That's really bad reporting.
1750
01:17:59,433 --> 01:18:04,438
- He is unfit to be president
because he cannot think.
1751
01:18:05,611 --> 01:18:06,820
- [Reporter] The U.S.
is surpassing Italy
1752
01:18:06,854 --> 01:18:08,718
as the country with
the most fatalities.
1753
01:18:08,753 --> 01:18:10,720
- [News Anchor] He says he
wants to reopen the country
1754
01:18:10,755 --> 01:18:12,066
with a big bang.
1755
01:18:12,101 --> 01:18:15,621
- Pursuing truth is to the mind
1756
01:18:15,656 --> 01:18:17,623
like food is to the body.
1757
01:18:18,763 --> 01:18:22,594
Without pursuing truth,
your psyche starves
1758
01:18:22,628 --> 01:18:26,736
and Trump's psyche has been
starving for a long time.
1759
01:18:26,771 --> 01:18:28,462
- [Journalist] Say, sir,
what metrics you will use
1760
01:18:28,496 --> 01:18:29,877
to make that decision?
1761
01:18:29,912 --> 01:18:31,568
- The metrics right here.
1762
01:18:31,603 --> 01:18:36,435
If we can hold that down
between 100,000 and 200,000,
1763
01:18:36,470 --> 01:18:39,024
we all together have
done a very good job.
1764
01:18:39,059 --> 01:18:41,302
I am very proud to
be your president.
1765
01:18:41,337 --> 01:18:42,234
Thank you very much.
1766
01:18:42,269 --> 01:18:44,443
Thank you, everybody, thank you.
1767
01:18:44,478 --> 01:18:46,100
- He's detached from reality.
1768
01:18:48,585 --> 01:18:50,070
I mean, this is just demented.
1769
01:18:52,831 --> 01:18:56,007
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1770
01:18:59,838 --> 01:19:03,773
- The founding fathers always
knew that a king-like tyrant
1771
01:19:03,808 --> 01:19:06,742
would try to rule as
a personal dictator
1772
01:19:06,776 --> 01:19:08,916
and use the powers
of the presidency
1773
01:19:08,951 --> 01:19:11,056
to enhance or enrich himself,
1774
01:19:11,091 --> 01:19:15,095
but they never foresaw
the senate the judiciary
1775
01:19:15,129 --> 01:19:17,925
might completely abdicate
their responsibilities
1776
01:19:17,960 --> 01:19:19,099
and go along with that.
1777
01:19:20,341 --> 01:19:22,758
- The natural tendency
of history in many ways
1778
01:19:22,792 --> 01:19:26,520
is towards greater
liberalism and altruism
1779
01:19:26,554 --> 01:19:30,455
but human nature has
these competing forces,
1780
01:19:30,489 --> 01:19:31,801
and so what we're seeing now
1781
01:19:31,836 --> 01:19:36,288
is this amazing regression
from where we were
1782
01:19:36,323 --> 01:19:39,533
we are literally going
backwards, I think,
a century or two.
1783
01:19:39,567 --> 01:19:42,985
We all have to do
everything that we can do
1784
01:19:43,019 --> 01:19:48,024
because our society is at
risk and we could lose it all,
1785
01:19:49,819 --> 01:19:53,650
we could lose this grand
experiment in democracy.
1786
01:19:53,685 --> 01:19:55,998
I think we're more
than halfway there,
1787
01:19:56,032 --> 01:19:58,483
I think people don't
realize how far this
1788
01:19:58,517 --> 01:20:00,347
has actually progressed.
1789
01:20:01,831 --> 01:20:06,008
- When you're in a period
of rising authoritarianism,
1790
01:20:06,042 --> 01:20:08,665
it's easy to get exhausted
1791
01:20:08,700 --> 01:20:10,633
because the news comes at you
1792
01:20:10,667 --> 01:20:15,017
like bullets from a
machine gun, all of it bad.
1793
01:20:15,051 --> 01:20:18,227
One of the best weapons
against authoritarianism
1794
01:20:18,261 --> 01:20:20,539
is protest in the street,
1795
01:20:20,574 --> 01:20:22,024
and protests are key
1796
01:20:22,058 --> 01:20:25,027
because not only does the
leader see that he's unpopular,
1797
01:20:25,061 --> 01:20:26,545
but even more important,
1798
01:20:26,580 --> 01:20:31,240
his allies see that the public
is actually against them.
1799
01:20:33,587 --> 01:20:35,278
- Think of what
you tell your kids.
1800
01:20:37,591 --> 01:20:38,972
You tell them to be honest.
1801
01:20:39,006 --> 01:20:40,870
You tell them to tell the truth.
1802
01:20:40,905 --> 01:20:45,875
You tell them, don't think
of yourself, don't brag.
1803
01:20:47,256 --> 01:20:48,809
don't trash other people
to make yourself feel good.
1804
01:20:51,087 --> 01:20:52,778
How can you support
Donald Trump?
1805
01:20:53,745 --> 01:20:55,333
How can you support somebody
1806
01:20:55,367 --> 01:20:58,923
who essentially violates
all of the things
1807
01:20:58,957 --> 01:21:00,476
that we want them to follow?
1808
01:21:01,546 --> 01:21:02,409
It makes no sense.
1809
01:21:03,651 --> 01:21:07,034
It's corrosive for them,
it's corrosive for you,
1810
01:21:07,069 --> 01:21:08,794
and it's corrosive
for the country.
1811
01:21:10,382 --> 01:21:13,696
- This is a phenomenal,
phenomenal country.
1812
01:21:13,730 --> 01:21:17,803
It's one of the most unique
historical experiments
1813
01:21:17,838 --> 01:21:20,979
in the 5,500 years
of recorded history.
1814
01:21:22,153 --> 01:21:25,466
We have to figure out
a way to help people
1815
01:21:25,501 --> 01:21:29,091
and bring them into the
new world of globalization,
1816
01:21:29,125 --> 01:21:31,610
they have to feel
like they're part
1817
01:21:31,645 --> 01:21:34,717
of the aspirational
success of America
1818
01:21:34,751 --> 01:21:36,063
that our parents felt.
1819
01:21:37,858 --> 01:21:41,413
- I believe at our best
that we have the capacity
1820
01:21:41,448 --> 01:21:45,417
to radically
reconceptualize who we are
1821
01:21:45,452 --> 01:21:49,387
and the extent to which
that we can accept
1822
01:21:49,421 --> 01:21:52,045
our commonality as human beings,
1823
01:21:52,079 --> 01:21:55,393
I think therein lies the key
1824
01:21:55,427 --> 01:21:59,155
because then there's
no one left to hate
1825
01:21:59,190 --> 01:22:01,675
and that's not gonna
stop us from hating
1826
01:22:01,709 --> 01:22:03,090
but as Ernest Becker put it,
1827
01:22:03,125 --> 01:22:05,921
maybe we can hate
stuff that we should
1828
01:22:05,955 --> 01:22:07,923
like poverty and injustice,
1829
01:22:07,957 --> 01:22:11,236
and maybe we can then
use righteous indignation
1830
01:22:11,271 --> 01:22:13,652
to everybody's best interest.
1831
01:22:13,687 --> 01:22:16,276
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