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- Tonight, the conclusion

of "The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills" reunion.

- What you did was a áááá move.

- So much smack. - Whatever.

- If my husband did that, I would...

- I would be appalled.

- I would be so appalled.

- I'm assuming you're a member of the mile-high club.

- [giggling]

- Fáááing hilarious.

- Who ate the camel meat, just you?

- It actually tasted pretty good.

- Ugh! - It was gray.

- Should I tell her that you called her a harmless old lady?

- Can I have my moment, please?

- [sighs]

- Everyone has their issue.

No one's a fáááing angel here.

- Hey, guys, I'm drinking wine

and no one can say a damn thing.

[dramatic music]

- Eileen, Carolyn from Estes Park, Colorado, said,

"Hold on, you didn't want to talk about

"your past relationships,

"but what's the difference between talking about the affair

and talking about being used?"

- That's what... I didn't understand that either.

- The thing about being in an abusive relation

was really about letting people know who I am

and what I've been through.

And that's what it was really about.

And I read your blog, and that was incredibly offensive.

You spoke about how you had

been in an abusive relationship,

but you don't feel the need to...

- Yeah. - To share it, and...

- And that's absolutely true.

- When were you in an abusive relationship?

- Oh, my God.

I was 19.

- He hurt you?

- Once.

Sorry.

No, I don't want to cry.

I don't want to cry.

Once, then twice, and then I left.

But over a little time.

You know what?

I don't think I've cried about it since it happened,

and I don't think I've even dwelt on it.

I kind of brought it up because saying,

"I understood that."

And I walked away.

- I think it's so interesting that you didn't share that

when she was sharing that.

That's what I'm kind of reacting to.

- Because this is the... this is what we long to see from her.

- Right.

- We want to share those deep emotions.

I think that we all feel the same about it.

- I've hardly even... I don't think I've hardly

talked about it with Ken.

Maybe once. - Wow.

- We want to know that you have those experiences,

because that's where we connect.

- It wasn't a positive experience.

- No, but... - It was something I did once.

- My Lyme disease is not a positive experience.

- No, I know, but... - You know what I mean?

- It was something that happened.

- But you and Eileen would've had a deep connection

just over this,

and you would've probably be way ahead in your friendship.

- That's what I... - But by you not sharing...

- That's what I was curious about when...

When she revealed that at that table,

and you were all sitting there.

- I've been in extremely

physically abusive relationships.

♪ ♪

- I just... - I don't...

- My husband was there. I didn't feel...

- Right. - It was the right...

- Space? - Time.

- It's how people bond. - Yeah, that's life.

- It's how people bond. - That's how people bond.

- On a deeper level. - Well, maybe I'm different.

And I'm a different person.

- But sometimes it's also a protective mechanism for people.

- Of course, of course. - No, of course.

But, you know, like we always talk about...

What can we share in order for us

to create deeper friendships?

- That's why I brought it up.

- Some of us are more comfortable sharing than others.

- I've seen this side to her more than a couple times now.

And I... it's probably why I feel so close to you.

I've seen you like this, and in...

Much more sensitive than this.

I've seen her to tears

more than a couple times.

When we all share those things that make us very vulnerable...

- But do you think you need to?

- It makes us... it makes you more human to all of us.

- You don't need to. - It makes us like you more.

- You don't need to, Lisa, but sometimes

when everyone thinks that

you are, um...

- Above it all.

- Not... maybe not even above it all,

but just that no one can get to you.

- Detached.

- Yes, maybe that's a word, detached,

and that you're not as vulnerable as we are

in the relationship.

It... there's a separation.

- Lisa's the first to admit she likes to live

in a fantasy land

of everything happy and pink

and roses and ponies.

- Right.

- It didn't even really come to my mind.

- Right.

- To suddenly say, "Well, let me share this with you too."

I talked about... At the Hero Dog Awards...

What kept me up at night:

the fact that I spent six months dedicating my life

to opening this cause

and absolutely looked at pictures over and over again

of the slaughter of these poor dogs.

So I... yes, absolutely been heartbroken over it...

Heartbroken.

- I think, also, it's abundantly clear

that you have way more empathy and feeling for animals

than you do for, like, the women that are in this group.

I mean, that's how I feel.

- Well, I thank you for that.

- I mean, I feel that way.

- You've said a lot of nasty things about me this season.

- Oh, I... I think that's... - A lot of nasty things.

- I think that's kind of obvious.

- I do have a lot of empathy for animals,

and I do have a lot of empathy for people I care about.

I really do.

- I don't think I've said anything really that nasty.

I think I've been trying to be extremely honest.

- Okay. - And...

- Well, it's hurt my feelings.

- Well, I'm sorry. I really am.

I'm very, very sorry to hurt your feelings.

- You know what's interesting, though, that just happened?

When you just said your feelings were hurt,

she apologized, like, within one second.

- Yeah, and I'm sincere.

- Which is kind of what she was looking for from you.

- That much would make me go,

"Oh, I can relate to this person

as another human being."

I wasn't even getting that.

- Do you have a hard time saying you're sorry?

- I don't know. - Yolanda's nodding.

- Well, I think... I think you do.

It's nothing new, you know what I mean?

- No, it's nothing new.

- So do you think you have a hard time saying, "I'm sorry"?

- Well, if everybody says that,

then I must do, but I thought...

- You don't see it in yourself?

- Uh... - And that's okay too.

I mean...

- You know what really bothers me about this?

- I think Erika brought it up this year.

- Can I say what bothers me about this entire thing?

I feel like I've become a bitch through this,

and it was really never my intention.

I am not the kind of person

that wants to cause trouble or seeks trouble out.

I really try to resolve sháá.

- And get clarity.

- And to find myself in this

was very disturbing for me.

But I really felt, the way you treated me,

I had no recourse.

I had to stand up for myself,

and I had to speak my truth.

I never meant this to be, like,

a gang of five on you, Lisa.

But the more I saw how you behaved

and you deflected and you acted,

the more pissed off I got.

Do you admit that you do that?

- What?

- I don't think that you... I think that it's...

- Do what? - Really lost in translation.

I don't think... I don't think... - Okay.

I'm not sure that's... I'm not sure that's true.

But okay.

- Well, when Erika spoke with Kathryn

about Lisa Vanderpump,

Erika assumed the conversation was private.

But Kathryn had other ideas,

and soon the two women were caught in a bigger web

than even Lisa Vanderpump could spin.

Take a look.

- You're too nice, and you're taken advantage of.

- Advantage of, and then if you're too mean,

then you're a áááá.

- Oh, I hate that word. Don't say that word.

- You do?

- Tell me about you.

Do you have women friends?

- I had never been well-liked by women.

- I will be your first genuine woman friend.

- I want really good women in my life,

not just any old broad that comes in.

What do you think of Lisa Vanderpump?

- She's the nice... She's so sw... she...

- [laughing] She's smart.

I think she's a sniper from the side.

I think she doesn't want to leave any fingerprints.

- I had lunch with Erika.

She started talking about Vanderpump.

And she said, "Don't let her steer you,

and don't get caught in her web."

- Honestly, I thought we had spoken in confidence,

so I'm a little disappointed.

- That's on you.

I can keep a secret,

but if you don't want it repeated,

you don't say it.

- You know what?

I was really hurt by the fact you came to my house,

and you said, "Hey, I want to be your friend."

And then you tell her this...

- You said, "Oh, the web." What's the web bullsháá?

Really? It's nonsense.

It is nonsense.

- It's not nonsense.

Don't roll your eyes.

- But wait a minute now.

- Whoa, time out. I'm not finished with my...

- Okay, well, fine.

- I would never come to someone's home,

meet someone's husband for the first time,

and acting like a fáááing ass.

- Listen, I'll...

- We're trying to have a nice dinner party.

My husband doesn't know you. - I didn't break...

- He's trying to get to know you.

- I thought your husband was lovely.

- He is lovely, but how would you know?

'Cause you talked the whole fáááing night.

- Okay, I offended Erika.

I will own it. I'll apologize.

I say to you, Erika, I'm sorry that I caused problems.

- Can I give you a hug, Erika? - Yes.

All: Aww.

- I don't really give second chances.

But Kathryn apologized.

- We're good, right? - We're not talking... yes.

- Okay. - There won't be a third chance.

I'm glad that we got past our differences and we moved on.

- Me too. - Happy birthday.

[glasses clinking] - Thank you, sweetie.

I feel beautiful.

- Shane from Rockville, Maryland, wonders,

"Kathryn, where do you get off telling Erika

not to say the C-word?"

- For me, it caught me off guard.

I'm still an old-fashioned girl,

and I was raised that you never use that word.

And when I hear it, it's like,

[gasps] "Oh, my God.

Don't say it. Don't say that."

Like, that's just horrible.

- Who here thinks it's okay to say the C-word?

- I think the way she says it is fine.

I mean, she... - I have a nasty mouth.

- You know, it doesn't... - I say everything.

But, you know, like... Like Lisa knows,

when Brandi first started using that word,

it was, for me, more shocking.

- No, no, meaning, you know... - She said that she liked you.

Like, you're, like, a good áááá.

- What did you just say? - You're a good one.

Like, ááááá in a good way.

- Oh, for God's sake, Brandi.

- That was the first time I heard...

- I hate that word. I hate it.

And I might use other words.

- But I don't judge. - But I don't like that word.

I think that's really kind of degrading.

- Lisa Vanderpump, you say the word "pussy" all the time.

- Yeah, in England, "pussy" isn't such a...

I grew up hearing that word.

- Oh, my God, Sophia just had her hair turned pink.

- No. - Yeah, today.

- I had everything done pink.

Like the pussy, as well.

- You don't even have... what? - Yes.

- Did you just say the P-word?

- It's light pink. Yes.

You're allowed to say that in England.

- In the moment when I objected to Erika using the word,

it was, oh, if someone's being rude, she's a áááá.

And to me... - Well, that's different.

- Well, that's how she said it.

And that's when I said, "No, don't say that.

Don't use that word."

That is exactly the context that it was used in.

- All right, Kathryn Peete from Fort Smith, Arkansas,

said, "You told Erika you wanted to be her friend

"and for her to trust you.

"Then you betrayed her to Lisa Vanderpump.

Do you see how horrible you are, or should I point it out?"

- I don't think I'm a horrible person.

I definitely should've handled it differently.

In hindsight, I should have stopped you

when you were saying the things that you were saying

and said I didn't like that, and I didn't want to take that.

And I didn't want you to say that in front of me.

- Or you could've just kept it and not said anything.

- That would've made me feel, when the show aired,

that I was being dishonest.

I don't... I don't roll like that, Erika.

I don't. I don't.

I would've been co-signing.

- But you just told me you wanted to be my friend.

- But I told you I wanted to be your friend

before you started talking all that smack,

and there was, like, 20 minutes in between.

- It's not smack. It's my opinion...

My in-person observation.

- What if you had just said, "Well, I disagree with you,"

and said why you...

- That's what I said I wish I would've done.

I wish I would've said, "I disagree with you."

- But you didn't. But you didn't do that.

- Nope, nope.

- You listened with intent, you came there,

and then immediately ran to her and told.

And then you admitted it at my house

that you did it to get a reaction out of me.

And you did not conduct yourself the best way at my house.

She even agrees.

The audience agrees.

- Well, that... that...

- And did I tell her that you called her a harmless old lady?

- [sighs]

[exciting music]

- Coming up...

- I've seen your sit-down interviews

calling me a fáááing áááá after it.

- Yeah, because you know what? That was a áááá move.

What you did was a áááá move.

- Should I tell her that you called her a harmless old lady?

- Who? - Her.

- When did I call Vanderpump... - On the phone.

- To who? - To me.

- Never a harmless old lady. - Oh, Kathryn.

Oh, no, no, no. - A harmless old lady?

- Oh, no, no, no, Kathryn, we had a conversation.

- Harmless old...

- You called her a harmless old lady.

Swear on my son's life. - Swear on the Bible.

- No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

- Oh, please, Erika, give me a break.

- Absolutely not. No.

- This is like a desperate... - You're desperate, honey.

Not me. No, no, no.

- I don't call anyone harmless,

and I don't call people old ladies.

- Are you a harmless old lady? - You do.

You called her an old lady. - She's not old.

- Every single night in Dubai. - When was that?

- Or harmless.

- When we were sitting at the dinner table.

It was... you talked so much smack.

I didn't repeat a tenth of the stuff you said.

- No, not true, Kathryn.

You came to my house with ill intent,

and this is where it ends up.

- Now you're changing the subject,

because you know what?

- Not changing any subject. Keep going.

- No, Erika. - Keep going.

- You talk so much smack about everybody,

except Yolanda.

So much smack.

- Kathryn, whatever. What is...

- What whatever? - Where... what is it?

- No, no, no, no, no, no. - Tell me the words.

- Not whatever. - Give me the words.

- You call all of us old ladies.

Almost every night when we'd come back in Dubai,

it was just, "Blah, blah, everyone... no one has taste.

"No one dresses well. No one's hair looks good.

No one's makeup looks good."

I've seen your sit-down interviews

calling me a fáááing áááá after it.

- Yeah, because you know what? That was a áááá move.

What you did was a áááá move.

That's right, you don't come to someone's home...

- A fáááing áááá. - Do that.

You don't.

- In Kathryn's defense, when she did tell me,

it was only a little bit.

She said, "Don't get caught in the web."

- Uh, let me ask this.

- You didn't... You barely knew me.

- That's just my in-person observation

of what you done to Eileen in the Hamptons...

- What did I...

- And what was going on with, uh,

her and the kids at the barbecue.

That's why I said it.

- But you weren't there when Eileen and I had a conversation.

- She was, actually. - I was.

- And I saw you intently watching.

You know, I'm trying to, like, get past it.

- We all love each other, and that's...

- But you did say to me, "So is that when the affair started?"

- Okay, don't worry about it.

- Who thinks Kathryn was wrong

to take what Erika said and bring it to Lisa Vanderpump?

- Me, me.

- You do too? - I do.

- Yeah, probably. - Of course.

- Yeah, that was wrong.

- I've owned it. I told you guys.

- I told you that.

- I handled it wrong, 100%.

- Yolanda, the day you picnicked in the park,

you agreed with Erika

about Lisa Vanderpump spinning webs.

- Lisa's very smart.

And sometimes, you know, like with Brandi...

That was Brandi's biggest complaint,

was that she felt that Lisa

would set her up in certain situations.

- Oh, please.

Brandi's got such a mouth. Sorry.

- Lisa, I'm just... I'm just trying to answer the question.

I'm just... you know what I mean?

So I've heard it before in the group.

She hasn't done it with me personally,

but I've heard... I've seen it.

- Lisa, Raina from Bowling Green, Kentucky, said,

"Tom compared you to an alligator

"waiting to attack its prey,

and you thought it was great."

- You know what?

You remind me a little bit...

Not looks-wise...

Of an alligator.

- [laughing]

- "And you took offense to Erika

comparing you to a spider spinning its web."

- Now, hold on a second.

When we were out for dinner

and he said that,

of course I didn't like it,

and Ken didn't like it at all.

But he was so sweet, and he was charming,

and he was playing with me...

- He was playing with you.

- And even when... Yeah, I don't want

to say anything bad about him,

but even when I sat down at dinner,

he said, "You're my only worthy opponent."

So he's kind of sparring with me a bit.

Of course it was a bit rude,

but hey, I was out for a laugh with him.

- But you know what? Lisa's tough, and Tom actually...

- I'm not that tough, actually.

I'm not as tough as you think I am.

When I saw you say, "Oh, sniper,"

that kind of thing really hurts my feelings.

- Well, I'm very sorry it does. - That's okay.

- Those are my feelings. - That's okay.

- She's never said a bad word about anyone.

And as much as she's supposedly this big manipulator,

I've never heard her say one bad word about anyone.

- I'm not saying any sháá about them.

I don't need to.

- Eileen, Juanita from San Antonio, Texas, said,

"The web thing was between Erika and Kathryn.

"At the Habitat for Humanity house,

"why were you stirring up sháá

when you should have been stirring paint?"

- [sighs] I was doing both.

- I'm actually glad she was doing it.

- I was doing both that day. - You are?

- Yes, because we came to a resolution, which stuck.

- Thank you. - Yes.

- I'm so happy to hear that. - So thank you.

I'm sorry. - No, it's true... it was true.

- It wasn't really about sháá-stirring.

- We were able to get past it.

- And we never argued again. - Never.

- Erika, you forgave Kathryn.

Will you ever confide in her again?

- I mean, listen... and I've said this many times...

Kathryn and I are on the road to a real friendship.

We got off to a bad start. She apologized.

I accepted. We're moving on.

- Very good.

The viewers have no lack of opinions.

One in Encino, California, had so many, in fact,

she sent in a video.

Take a look at what she had to say.

- Hey, guys, I'm drinking wine,

and no one can say a damn thing.

How's it going? I've been watching you.

It's so amazing to be a viewer.

Kyle, you and I have had some fun times together.

I have an odd soft spot for you,

because I know you can be good.

- That doesn't make sense, so... - Yeah.

- You are one person when you're around Vanderpump,

and you're a completely other person

when she's not in your life.

And I like you when she's not in your life.

Kathryn, I like younger men too.

Your husband's hot.

Good for you.

I want to say I'm sorry

to Eileen.

I really didn't think you had it in you

to man up and call BS on LVP.

- [sighs]

- And your hair looks amazing this season.

I don't know who's doing it now,

but you need to get Rinna on that bandwagon.

- Why are we giving her a platform?

She's not on the show.

What... just to sit there, and we can't even answer her back?

- Hold on, we'll talk about it.

- Rinna, the truth is,

you're not bipolar.

You're just, like, seriously nuttier than squirrel sháá.

Like, bat-sháá crazy.

I'm so sick of you saying, "Own your sháá and deflect."

Those... you can't say that anymore.

I knew I loved Erika the second she called Lisa

a sniper from the side, because she is on point.

And it only took me five years to figure that out.

Like, literally knew in a second and read that bitch.

Lisa Vanderpump,

you are genius, obviously, um...

- I don't know. - At changing the narrative.

- We could all be brave and sit there with a glass of wine

and film us and throw the crap out there.

- You were unfortunately

a puppeteer for me.

You manipulated me. - Oh, please.

Who can pull her strings?

- And I did do your dirty work for you.

And I'm sorry for that, and that will never happen again.

- You know, I think to sit there

and have a go at all of us...

Are we allowed to do that?

- Cheers, bitches.

- She was fired from the show.

And so we're allowed to do that

and just put it out there with a glass of wine

and insult everybody?

Really, Andy?

- Well, all of you have...

- She always says I talk about her on the show,

but all she does is watch the show and tweet about it.

- Sure, but we don't talk about...

All she does is tweet about it.

I don't even follow her on Twitter.

- She says we speak about her. Get over it.

And she speaks about us all the time.

- She would say you all bring her up.

- What's your point? - Everybody does.

She still does? Whatever.

Who cares?

- Why does she think you're a different person

around Vanderpump?

- 'Cause she doesn't like us being friends.

- She doesn't like it. Tried to split us up.

- She paid you a compliment and apologized to you.

- Yeah.

- Do you accept her apology? - Sure.

[laughter] - Sure.

Lisa Rinna, what did you think about what she said?

- Mmm, who?

- Exactly.

- Yolanda, what's your reaction to what Brandi had to say?

- You know, I think it's only fair

that, you know, if Kim gets to come here

and have her space to speak,

I think it's fair that Brandi got it this way, so...

- It's not that it's about fair.

It's how she talks every time.

- I'm answering... I'm answering Andy's question.

- So derogatory.

- I know, and I'm giving my opinion,

'cause that's what we're supposed to do here.

- You have the opportunity to have the last word here.

- I'm just saying... no, but she's always so derogatory

about everything.

There's always an angle,

and I'm just glad it's not part of my life.

I'm asked questions about her constantly.

"So, are you gonna make up for it?"

I don't even want to talk about it.

I don't even think about it.

She's just ridiculous, so, no, I wish her well.

Go play with somebody else.

[dramatic music]

- Coming up...

Talking about the mile-high club,

most of you are members.

- [whistles]

[upbeat music]

- When it comes to wealth,

nothing tops Beverly Hills.

The jewels are pricey, the ponies are mini,

and the travel is better than first class.

Take a look.

♪ ♪

- Ooh, I love a white Rolls.

[people chattering]

- Oh! - Oh, Harry.

- These earrings are big, fat, fáááing diamonds...

Like, sinful, big, fat, fáááing diamonds.

- [gasps] No, I can't even take it.

Excuse me. - No, stop the madness.

- Little horses, little horses.

Please come love me. [laughs]

♪ ♪

- The yacht is absolutely beautiful.

It has five bedrooms, a media room...

- All right, shouldn't we jump on?

I rent this bus for when I do shows.

- I call top bunk. - I want top bunk too.

I don't have my own tour bus,

because most of the time, it's not feasible

to have a tour bus.

I just fly.

On my plane.

♪ ♪

- This is the master bedroom.

This is the royal suite room.

This is the most expensive one.

- This is our room? - Yes.

- I thought it was a lobby.

- We're in the most expensive? - Yes.

- [gasps] - We're just...

- Oh, the sharks are there.

[all screaming]

♪ ♪

- Look at those lashes.

They put yours to shame.

- I was gonna save you some camel meat.

- Oh, no. I'm not eating a camel.

- Little gamey, but there's a lot of good seasonings in it.

The camel meat is good.

It kind of tastes like chicken.

[camel grunts]

- There's one less camel over there.

- Oh, my God. So who ate the camel meat?

Just you? - Uh-huh.

- How was it?

- It actually tasted pretty good.

- Ugh! - It was gray.

- I, I... - It was gray.

- It was. It was gray.

- You all visited each other's rooms in Dubai.

Who do you think had the best room?

- Lisa and Kyle. - Oh, yeah, Lisa and Kyle.

- Come on.

- Your suite was 40 grand a night.

- Yeah. - 40 grand a night!

- I mean, unbelievable.

But it something like 10,000 square foot.

- I actually think Eileen's room was the most amazing.

Sleeping with a shark.

- Now, I've got to tell you, quite honestly,

it was so comforting.

- Yeah.

- It was like being in a cave

or a safe womb.

And the colors were so tranquil.

- I would feel claustrophobic.

- The best part, though, was they promised

that nobody could see into the room.

- I know!

- In the... the diver? - Yes!

- They told me... They said, "They can't see in,"

so I see somebody cleaning the windows,

and I'm like, "Well, he can't see me."

I'm in a robe, in bed.

And then I go into the bathroom,

and I look back, and he goes...

[laughter]

- That was amazing. - That's funny.

- We were dying laughing.

- That is funny.

Erika, how often do you fly?

- The plane is really tops,

I mean, for business.

So if I get on there, I'm lucky.

- What was wrong with that tea bag?

- Victoria, honey.

What happened to this tea bag?

- Oh. - Can we have a new one, baby?

It was open on the side, so all the tea was spilling out.

- Ugh. - I know.

- I mean, the travesty.

- Devastating. - Oh, my God.

- Victoria!

Listen, let me tell you something, though.

Anybody who flies private knows that that is nothing

compared to what those chicks see.

They have seen everything in the air.

- Oh, yeah. - Oh, of course.

- I'm assuming you're a member of the mile-high club.

- I'll plead the fifth.

- [giggling]

- If you're talking about the mile-high club,

most of you are members.

- [whistling] - I'm actually not.

- I'm not.

- Really? - I'm not.

- Oh. - No.

- Some friendships look better through rosé-colored glasses.

And between the two of them, Kyle and Lisa Rinna

have more than 30 years of bliss with Lisa Vanderpump.

But when the glasses came off,

things got a little less rosy.

Take a look.

- Hold on tight, Vanderpump.

- Whoo! - Yeah, exactly, come on!

- Are you jealous of these?

- Mine are real gold. I know yours are too.

Lisa and I have fun like nobody else,

and that is what we both missed about each other.

- Hot, hot. - Oh! Oh, my God.

Look at those shoes.

I like to be around sparkly things,

so she's fun to be around.

She's always a good time.

- Is she better now? I'm confused.

- True Munchausen Syndrome.

Those affected feign disease

to draw attention to themselves.

- I had not heard the word "Munchausen's"

until Lisa Rinna brought it up.

I mean, that's a serious word.

She came upstairs, and she said...

I said, "Oh"... To Lisa, "Oh, my God,

that Munchausen's... Such a big word."

I thought you were gonna throw Kyle in it, like, "Phew,".

Like, I thought you were gonna drag me into it.

- Why would I drag you into it?

- Why would Lisa Vanderpump say to me,

"Why didn't you bring Kyle into it?"

And then why would she say to Kyle,

"Phew, I thought Lisa Rinna was gonna bring you into it"?

She's caught.

- That's not making sense, which is why I'm trying to tell you...

Let me help you as your friend.

Change your story right now. - Okay, okay.

No, I'm not changing my story. - Change it.

I'm sticking with the truth. - That's not the truth!

- Kyle appears to always have to please Lisa Vanderpump

to keep their friendship afloat.

If that's not tragic, I don't know what is.

- You're not making sense. - Oh, my God.

- You got to say something else.

Please, please help justify me sitting here sticking by you.

- Okay, okay. I'm not okay with that.

- I will not fáááing tell a lie!

And you know what?

To me, our friendship's too important.

- I'm not asking you to tell a lie.

That's not fair.

- No, I'm asking you not to tell one.

- So, Kyle, this friendship with Lisa,

which has been through kind of a rollercoaster ride,

clearly means a lot to you.

- Yes, it does.

But I mean, it is a rollercoaster ride.

You know, especially it's focused on when we had issues.

But we've had, you know, far more good times than bad times.

- It seems like in Dubai

and elsewhere this season,

you have been firmly on the side of,

"I want to do whatever it takes

to keep my friendship with Vanderpump."

- Well, I love her.

And, you know... And I think she loves me.

I know... I know she loves me. - You know she...

- Yeah, I know she loves me.

And her friendship's important to me,

not because, you know...

I mean, I know Lisa Rinna accused me of kissing her ass,

but I know that if I were going through a hard time

that she'd be there for me.

So you know what?

I-I don't know what to say.

- And how would you describe your friendship with Vanderpump?

- You know, it's, it's... It's changed.

It's rolled around.

It's gone up. It's gone down.

It was really fun last year,

and we started out having fun this year,

and then, um, as you can see, it changed.

- I have to say, the two of you are very fun to watch together.

I mean, you have a funny relationship, and...

- Because we speak, like, every few days.

And literally, she'll phone me.

I mean, that's even when we talked about

the pictures, you know.

I mean, it was good-hearted,

light-hearted fun.

- You laughed about what pictures?

Me being on an IV?

- No, but I'm saying that when your head was popping out

of the toaster or something,

and she sent it or whatever.

And we laughed, you know.

Yeah, we did. I mean, I'm sorry.

We told you that.

- I'm glad... I'm glad you thought that was funny.

- Sure, it doesn't come off great to you when you hear that,

but I'm being honest.

Did I... - Yeah.

- Did I, like... "Oh, my gosh, what is this Instagram post"?

Yes, 'cause some of them were outrageous.

- Kyle, Darren from Vail, Colorado, said,

"Lisa told Ken she didn't complain

"about her room in Italy,

"which she said was smaller than her closet.

What did you think when you heard that?"

- I gave her a nice room, and she doesn't like

to share a bathroom.

- Ken is sometimes very opinionated

when it comes to your friends,

especially if they've ever upset you.

- Mm-hmm.

- I mean, really, he... And this has been

a common theme for years.

- I can't change him.

- In the final episode, he called Lisa Rinna

a "stupid bitch," among other things.

- Rinna just kept going at me.

"You're a liar, and own it." - Come on.

- I... listen, and then I...

- What are you giving her any credence for?

She's a fáááing stupid bitch.

- He's gonna have a reaction.

What am I gonna do, not discuss it with him?

- But you don't... but again, you don't go to another woman

and call her...

- But that's up to him. - Those kind of names.

- That's up to him. - Well, that's your husband!

If my husband did that about any of you women, I would...

- I would be appalled. - I would be so appalled.

- If my husband said that about another woman...

- I would vomit, I would be so appalled.

- Are you appalled?

[dramatic music]

Coming up...

- You guys can't figure out,

am I a people pleaser, or am I bipolar crazy

and a crazy bitch.

- If my husband did that about any of you women, I would...

- I would be appalled. - I would be so appalled.

- If my husband said that about another woman...

- I would vomit, I would be so appalled.

- Are you appalled?

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- No.

He felt that way. He was upset.

- Shall I just say what your husband called me on camera?

- Yeah, and he felt that way.

- I want to read it.

- By the way, if we're telling the truth.

- Okay, if we're telling the truth.

Ken called me a stupid bitch. - Yeah.

- A silly cow, not the full ticket,

a wanker, crazy, stupid...

- Wanker... I don't think he'd use the word wanker.

- Yeah, he did. - He did.

- Just laugh at the silly cow.

She's not the full ticket.

I'm telling you, she's not the full ticket.

I feel sorry for her.

Oh, what a wanker.

- [laughing] You cannot say that.

- Oh, of course I can say it.

They're so stupid.

- Ken was pissed off.

I mean, she just said... [overlapping speech]

- Ken is not part of this cast.

- Let me ask you a question. - Yes?

- If Harry Hamlin called you a stupid bitch

and a wanker, and...

- Not wanker. - He would never do that.

- You don't call a woman a wanker, so...

- Uh, I wrote it down!

- Okay, well, it doesn't even...

It's not even a bad word.

Whatever, yeah

- If Harry Hamlin called you that list of names...

- Yeah, I'd be pissed off.

- It was disturbingly insulting.

- So do you think Ken owes her an apology, or...

- Maybe he does. - He wouldn't.

This is the same thing that happened two years ago,

and it wasn't about Ken.

It was about our difference, and Ken interfered

dis-aggressively in me.

- Well, I was talking to Ken.

- Ken, why are you getting involved?

- What do you mean, why am I getting involved?

Don't be so stupid. - Don't call me stupid.

- You just went out there and just... oh, come on.

- Who do you think you are to call me stupid?

That is unacceptable.

- He said Yolanda looked terrible without makeup...

- Yeah, but that's not...

- At Lisa Rinna's birthday party.

- But that was... she looked ill.

- I told her she looked better. She didn't.

Promise you, she did not look better.

- No. - She looked terrible.

- She looked great, though.

I thought she looked really good.

- No, I... see, that... - She did.

- What I saw was not the Yolanda I know.

And it's not saying she looks terrible,

like, to her face.

But I said to her, "Oh, you look so much better now."

- She looked great, but for Ken to say, no, she looked awful...

- She did. - No, she didn't.

- He questioned Kyle... - No, she didn't.

I thought she looked ill. - Well, she was ill.

- She didn't look awful. She didn't look awful, though.

- She was ill. - Yeah.

- She was ill. - That's exactly right.

- Uh, he questioned Kyle's sense of fashion

because of her fondness for muumuus.

- This is good for the wedding, right?

It's, like, a black tie wedding.

- For Kyle? - Yeah.

- She's not used to something as fashionable as that.

- Oh, shut up. You are so mean.

- Haven't you got a muumuu? She loves those.

- They're caftans, everybody.

- They're muumuus.

- They're not. They're caftans.

- Erika, um, you called Lisa Vanderpump a diva.

- Oh, that's a compliment.

All right, diva, well, listen. I will see you...

- Did you call me diva, darling? - I did.

I hope you take it as a compliment,

because I mean it.

- Oh, well, you got the memo, then.

[laughter]

- Hey, miss a beat, Erika.

- Yeah, but she said it in a lighthearted way on the phone.

- 1,000%. - She was just, "Hello, diva."

- Rinna, Eileen first referred to Vanderpump

as a manipulator, and then...

- For the last few months. - Right.

- You eventually said you understood

what she was talking about.

You said that she called and texted you

what to talk about.

- Who? - What did she tell you to say?

- Well, then Munchausen, and... - I did not.

- She called to prod me to be more upset about the bipolar,

which the truth was, I really wasn't.

- What happened in Amsterdam shocked me.

I'm not gonna lie.

I could clearly label her unstable or bipolar.

I would never do that.

- You're 50... Whatever, like, two.

Well, yeah, 52 years old.

I mean, don't you speak your mind?

- Are you easily manipulated?

- Are you serious?

- I don't know, I mean, maybe, um,

I was a little bit.

Maybe. I don't know.

I'm not usually easily manipulated.

- Kathryn, do you think Lisa Rinna

is easily manipulated?

- I think the word that you used before

is that you're a people pleaser.

- Well, I don't like the word people pleaser, really.

I... I don't... I don't see myself as...

I mean, you guys can't figure out,

am I a people pleaser, or am I bipolar crazy and a crazy bitch?

- Oh, nobody ever said...

- You know, aggressive and all.

- I think you were afraid of Lisa Vanderpump.

- You said Vanderpump and Kyle were sending pictures

of Yolanda back and forth...

- They were.

- And talking about Munchausen before you said it on camera.

- Well, let me clarify. - No, no, no, no.

- Let me clarify... we all talked about the Munchausen.

- Yes, but who brought it up? - I did.

- Rinna, who brought it up?

- But you knew about it.

- No, no. [overlapping speech]

That's not fair.

- You did too!

You fáááing called me on the phone.

- Hold on, Rinna, Rinna... - Oh, my God.

- Rinna, Rinna, Rinna. - Sorry.

- Let's back up, you and me.

Rinna... - You did.

- The first time I ever heard the word

was at SHU sitting with Jana...

- Okay, SHU, Spin, whatever.

- But I said to you, "No, that's about children."

And you said, "No, no, no.

That's Munchausen's by proxy."

- Okay, all I'm saying is, you knew about it.

- And you'd explained it... - Munchausen syndrome.

It's related to Munchausen by proxy, which is a whole...

- That's what I just said.

I've heard of Munchausen by proxy.

- It's you.

- You told... I never heard the word Munchausen

till you brought it up.

Why'd you say we did it? - But no, I did...

- Her point is, you were having discussions about it

before she ever brought it up on camera.

- Yes.

- Just... never with Lisa Vanderpump.

You and me only at, uh, dinner.

- But she knew about it. How does she know about it?

Because then she called me.

- Maybe she'd mentioned it to me.

- Yeah, okay.

- But I never thought Munchausen...

- Maybe I did. I don't remember.

- You didn't bring it up. I did.

- We did not bring it up first, correct?

- Yes. - Thank you, done.

- In Dubai, Lisa Rinna, you claimed you caught

Lisa Vanderpump lying about whether or not

she thought you should bring Kyle

into the Munchausen conversation.

- That is correct. That is absolutely correct.

- So basically, what do you feel that Lisa Vanderpump

said to you in the driveway?

- I don't feel anything. I'll tell you exactly.

- Okay. - I left.

She came running out after me and said...

- I always say good-byes.

- Can I have my moment, please? - Yeah, sure.

- Okay, ready? Okay.

- She came running out after me and said,

"Why didn't you bring Kyle into it?"

- I thought you were gonna drag Kyle into it.

I thought she was gonna drag us all into it.

- So why wouldn't you have said that?

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- Coming up...

- If she's manipulative at times, whatever.

I think a lot of women are.

But it's also very mean at times.

Like, everyone's... Everyone has their issue.

No one's a fáááing angel here.

- I said I thought you were gonna drag Kyle into it.

I thought she was gonna drag us all into it.

- So why wouldn't you have said that?

[dramatic music]

Why would you say Kyle?

- Why would she?

Why would she drag you all into it?

- Yeah, why would I?

- Because she said we've all been talking

about it like this when she was reading the Munchausen's.

- Right, and you went upstairs... - Kyle was still there.

- So yeah, and then I said to Kyle,

"I thought she was gonna drag you into it."

- It's not going to be any different than it was in Dubai.

- I know. It's the same. - I said that, but she's just...

- And so what does that mean?

- It's just gonna be the same.

- Well, I said to her, "Why would say just me?"

- I said, "Because you've gone backwards and forwards."

- And I said, "Cause if you think you're gonna just, like,

"try to, like, drag me into it without you,

"I would take you down in fáááing flames,

"because I only talked about the Instagram post,

nothing else."

It had nothing to do with Munchausen's.

So that's what I said.

- And you feel that this proves...

- Well...

- She was wondering why Kyle wasn't being brought

into the whole Munchausen thing

and being responsible for saying it as well.

- I was owning it myself.

- I thought when you said we've all been talking about it,

you'd have much more contact with Kyle,

talking about Instagram posts and things like that.

- But I didn't bring anybody into it.

- A little bit more, because...

- You never brought anybody into it.

- I didn't bring anybody into it.

I sat there, and I did it myself.

- And you felt so bad, because it was on her.

- And you said to me, "What should I do?"

And I said, "You know what, Lisa, you don't speak

from your own perspective."

- Oh, here we go.

Deflect, deflect, deflect.

What are you talking about?

Now you're gonna make everybody crazy.

It's called gas-lighting.

So you make everybody think that they're crazy.

- She's not a liar.

She's not a liar, Lisa. - You know what?

- Yolanda, Erika told you that she believed

Lisa Rinna's account of that day

at Lisa Vanderpump's.

Who do you believe and why?

- It's all confusing to me.

You know what I mean?

- I don't lie, though. I don't lie.

- I don't think that... - I don't lie.

- I'm gonna go with Eileen,

and I'm gonna go with her instinct and her experience

from that, because she was never the one

to bring up this conversation, so I feel...

- I have nothing to gain.

- And she was there that day.

- I have nothing to gain.

- She came in, and she saw how upset I was.

She saw it. - I wouldn't say it.

If I said to Kyle...

- I think it's that you brought it up...

You brought up Kyle's name to both of them.

- But why to Kyle?

- To Kyle and to...

- 'Cause are you trying to pit people against one another?

I don't know, what are you trying to do?

- Kyle knows that Lisa's capable of that.

- Kyle, you know, 'cause she went to you and said,

"I thought Lisa was gonna be new to it."

- I said that?

Why would I say that to her if I...

- So then, Kyle, where do you... Where do you stand?

- I just don't think this is that...

I mean, I honestly don't feel like this is that big of a deal.

- I do.

- I had a conversation about that.

I know you do, Lisa.

We talked about this on the boat in Dubai.

- I actually wondered if she was gonna bring us

all into it... that's it.

- You didn't say that, though.

- But that's how I felt.

- That's not what you said!

I think this is more your issue with Lisa than...

And I don't know why...

- Well, I guess what it is is that...

- It feels like it's trying to make a problem with us.

Like, if you have an issue... - Well, I'm not.

[overlapping speech]

- You're totally missing the point.

- Be friends.

- You're totally missing the point.

You basically said that Lisa Rinna was right, correct?

- I spoke my truth on the boat. - Well, how would she know?

- And so now we rest our case.

- I spoke my truth on the boat. - It's that simple.

That's okay, I don't want you not to be friends.

Be friends.

- I just feel like it's getting...

- Did you speak your truth, or did you speak the truth?

- I did. What do you mean, the what?

- That's the truth, correct?

It's not your version of events.

It's the truth. - I spoke the truth.

- Why would you say to Lisa Vanderpump,

"I'll take you down in fáááing flames with me"?

That means something's pretty intense.

- When I said "take you down in flames,"

do I really mean I want to take her down in flames?

No, but yes, I was annoyed that my name got brought up.

- Okay.

- Well, Miranda from Los Angles said,

"Kyle clearly suffers from Stockholm Syndrome."

- What's Stockholm Syndrome?

- "Constantly abused by her sisters,

"and Lisa Vanderpump has a history

"of poking her when she's down.

Lisa doesn't treat her well, and Kyle's okay with that."

- That's not... I don't... You know what?

Maybe I feel like it's just not that big of a deal.

If she's manipulative at times, whatever.

I think a lot of women are, especially smart women.

But it's also very mean at times.

Like, everyone's... Everyone has their issue.

No one's a fáááing angel here.

- [laughs]

- When you look back at the seasons...

- Yeah.

- It seems like you have been accused by Brandi...

- Lisa's never once asked me to say anything for her.

Never said, "Brandi, do this, say this."

Not ever.

But I was still being manipulated into

doing and saying things that I didn't want to fáááing say.

- And now by them... A little bit of Yolanda...

Of being manipulative.

- I think even Kim. - Kyle has in the past.

- And Kyle. - And Kyle.

- Being in a friendship with you is like playing chess

with Bobby Fischer.

Every move is so calculated about...

- Thanks, darling.

- Bobby Fischer, manipulative... - Taylor.

- Why do you think that your friends

are always accusing you of being manipulative?

- I don't know. I really don't know.

- You've had a lot of accusations

thrown at you today.

- Yeah.

- Is there anyone that you want to apologize to?

- No.

- Okay.

Lisa, you've known Rinna for more than 25 years.

How do you think you can move forward with your friendship?

- I don't know.

She seems so angry, so I don't know.

- And I ask the same question of you.

- [sighs] You know, I don't...

I'm not somebody who holds grudges,

and I like to move forward in life.

And I... and I... I mean I'm...

Life is just too short.

So, yeah, in the bigger picture,

I would like to move forward,

'cause I don't like to hold grudges,

but I'm disappointed, you know.

I'm so disappointed and sad

that it would come to this.

- Well, I'm disappointed in you too.

- Okay. - Okay.

- I want to wrap this up.

We'll be back in a minute.

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Coming up...

- You don't know what's going on.

I jumped in and was, you know...

Found out a lot of things the hard way.

- Back in Beverly Hills with the ladies.

I'm Andy Cohen.

Ladies, season six has been one of the most memorable yet.

You went to the top of the tallest building

in the world, swam with sea lions,

welcomed new friends into the fold,

and you did it all with class and dignity...

mostly. [laughter]

I enjoyed every minute of it, I have to say.

Kyle, you've been a Housewife since the beginning.

What's your biggest takeaway this year?

- Well, you know, I enjoyed getting to meet the new girls.

Um, I really have.

And even though we've all gone through difficult times,

I feel like each of these moments make us closer.

And I feel like I learned a lot about,

you know, Yolanda and Lyme disease,

which is really important, not just for us...

I think for everyone to be there and to see that...

And that, you know, not to sweat the small stuff.

- Yolanda, you've been through so much this season.

So much.

Your life is in such a different place.

Where do you go from here?

What's next for you? - Keep going.

- Your life is at a real crossroads.

- Yeah, no, I think I'm... You just keep going.

I mean, for me, the only important thing in my life

right now is to... to get well.

- Lisa Rinna, it's probably fair to say

that you like asking questions.

Some of those questions have gotten you

in some trouble this season.

Any regrets?

- You know, Andy, I never have regrets in life,

because I learn.

I learn and hopefully grow from my mistakes

and things that I say and do.

And I hope I've learned.

I hope I've become a better person.

I hope I have done some good

in some way, shape, or form.

- Good. - [laughs]

- Eileen, what's the verdict?

Does "Housewives" trump "Daytime"

in the drama department?

- Oh, my God. [laughter]

You got to be joking.

There's no contest. "Housewives" wins.

- Kathryn, was the experience

everything you thought it would be?

- Oh, and then some.

[laughter] - So great.

- It's beyond anything I expected.

- Erika, was the experience

everything you thought it would be?

- Oh, yeah, uh-huh. 1,000%.

- Are you glad you did it?

- Sure.

I mean, I knew it was insanity.

I'm insane, so why not?

- Had you watched the show before?

- No. - [laughing]

- That's why I was like, "Yeah."

Until you go through it, you don't really understand

that you don't know what's going on.

I-I jumped in and was, you know...

Found out a lot of things the hard way.

- Vanderpump, how are you feeling at the end of the day?

- Well, I'm just sorry if people think I'm manipulative.

But, you know, I... I wish I'd kind of had

a better understanding

of what Yolanda was going through, really.

You know, maybe I wasn't kind of that supportive,

you know, and I regret that.

But listen, we live and learn.

- So I want to end things a little differently this time.

I want you to look to the person on your right...

Erika, that'll be Kathryn. - [laughs]

Sorry. - You, that'll be Vanderpump.

And say in one word their best quality.

- Fáááing hilarious.

- [laughing] - Kyle?

- Integrity.

- Thank you. That means a lot.

Kindness.

- Thank you.

Sweetness.

- Aww. - Genuine.

Honest.

Funny.

- Perfect. Well, thank you, ladies.

And thanks for another great season.

- Thanks, Andy. - Can I borrow your dress?

- You can wear it every day. - Thanks.

- To learn more about the Housewives, go to bravotv.com.