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- Tonight...
- This is like a desperate...
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- You're desperate, honey.
Not me.
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- The three-part
Beverly Hills reunion begins.
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- Can I have my moment, please?
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- [sighs]
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- Can I tell her
that you called her
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a harmless old lady?
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- To who?
- To me.
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- Ken called me
a stupid bitch...
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- Yeah?
- A silly cow, a wanker...
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- I don't think he'd
use the word "wanker."
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- Yeah, he did.
- He did.
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- It took a toll on my marriage.
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It took a toll on friendships.
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- You think you've had
a hard time?
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You have no idea.
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- I wanted to make sure
that we were good.
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Can we get past this?
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I felt like we were.
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- You felt like we were?
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- Weren't we?
- [laughs]
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- And roll to the left
and pat the top.
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And roll, and pat.
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- You're being
a little Marco Rubio
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with your talking points.
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[dramatic music]
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- Hey, guys!
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I'm drinking wine and no one
could say a damn thing.
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- Why are we giving her
a platform
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when she's not on the show?
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- Why did you decide to divorce?
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- Did you know,
or were you blindsided?
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- This isn't a soap opera.
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This is reality.
- Don't be rude.
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- We are so sorry.
- I don't want you to cry.
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- It's my life
you're talking about.
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- I'm sorry.
- I'm so sorry.
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- She's not a liar, Lisa.
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- You know what... sorry.
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♪ ♪
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- Are you okay?
- And guess what.
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I did it. - Is she okay?
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- I'm sorry, that's the end.
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- Come on.
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- Just own it, Lisa.
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Fáááing own it!
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♪ ♪
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[upbeat music]
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- Hey, everybody,
it's Andy Cohen.
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Welcome to "The Real Housewives
of Beverly Hills" reunion.
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Joining me...
There's nobody else like them...
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The fascinating, fabulous ladies
of Beverly Hills.
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Hi, Lisa Vanderpump.
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- Hello, darling.
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- I'm digging this dress today.
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- Thank you.
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It's my, um, suit of armor.
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It was the nearest thing
I could find.
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- Perfect.
- Uh, Tom Ford.
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- He made you a suit of armor.
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- Yeah, exactly, right?
- Very good.
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Hey, Lisa Rinna.
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- Hello, Andy.
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- Everything good?
- Always.
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- Your wig looks good.
- Thank you.
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My glue's getting to my head
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a little bit though...
- It is? Uh-oh.
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- So you'll just have
to excuse me there,
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but other than that, it's good.
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- Uh, hi, Kyle.
- Hello, Andy.
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- Wearing the girls out tonight.
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- Yeah, they decided
they'd come out
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and join us
at the reunion today.
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- Very good.
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Hi, Eileen.
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- Hi, Andy.
- Nice to see you.
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- Nice to see you, honey.
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- You have your sassy
Eileen hair.
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- You know, I'm feeling
a little sassy.
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- Okay, good.
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Hi, Yolanda.
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- Hi, Andy.
- You look well.
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- Thank you.
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- In it for the long haul
tonight?
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- Yes, I'm here.
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I'm not leaving.
- Oh, excellent.
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Hi there, Kathryn. - Hi.
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- First reunion?
- Yes.
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- Ready?
- Yes.
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- Well, you look beautiful.
- Thank you.
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- Last but not least,
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hi, Erika.
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- Hello.
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- You feeling more
Erika Jayne today,
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or Erika...
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- Well, clearly, I'm two people.
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Um, you know, I'm Erika today.
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- Yeah.
- Yes.
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- Yeah, I'm just here.
- Okay.
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- All right, and viewers have
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a lot of questions,
so let's dig right in.
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Vanderpump,
Linda from Sacramento said,
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"What were you thinking
flying a horse all the way
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"from Ohio to California?
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What if the horse pooped
on the plane?"
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- So what?
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I wouldn't care about
something like that.
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Must be, like, weird
for her to leave her farm
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and get in a jet and go
to a Beverly Hills club.
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- Well, you think?
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You think it'll be a little
bit weird for her to get...
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Leave her farm and get on a jet?
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- Kathryn, Cara from Dallas
wants to know,
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"Where do you get off
telling Eileen to have
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"her husband drop
10 grand on bags?
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What's wrong with
shopping at Target?"
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- If the bag's janky,
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then I, like,
think the shoes are not great.
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- Heaven's sake.
Oh, my bags are janky.
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- I'm not saying
one bag for 10 grand,
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but three bags for 10 grand.
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- [laughs]
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- But I have bags
that I've had for 25 years.
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- I have Chanel bags
that were my mom's, so...
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- Exactly.
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- See, I pass them down
to my daughters.
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I tell my daughter.
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- Kyle, Roberto from Harlem,
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New York, wants to know
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if your store is still carrying
those $75,000
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rose gold sunglasses.
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- 18 karat rose gold lenses.
- Oh, stop.
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- I made the first one for
Princess Caroline of Monaco.
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- Oh, my God.
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- He says, "They sure as hell
put Dana's
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measly $25,000 glasses
to shame."
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- Okay, I'm loving
the sunglasses.
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- Did you know, $25,000?
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- Insane!
- That's right.
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- I was buying for my store.
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People thought I bought those
for myself because I showed up
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at lunch after
with similar glasses on.
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I did not buy those for my store
because I don't believe
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I have a $75,000 sunglass buying
type of customer.
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- What is the most you've paid
for a pair of sunglasses?
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- Um, honestly,
I think like $600.
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- Okay, anyone paid more
than 600?
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- Oh, yeah, I have,
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but I mean, they're classic.
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I've had sunglasses
for years as well.
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- Well, by day,
this self-proclaimed enigma
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and former cocktail waitress
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is the dignified wife
of a high-powered attorney.
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By night, she pats the puss
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and gyrates across
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the "Billboard" dance charts.
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Meet Erika Girardi
and Erika Jayne.
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- Mirror, mirror, on the wall,
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who's the fiercest bitch
of them all?
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- Erika. [laughter]
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♪ always. How's it going?
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I have all the access
to the best.
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What, am I gonna look
like a hag?
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- We got to paint that body.
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Head to toe, toe to head.
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- Get in my vagina.
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I do work hard to stay fit.
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Of course I look fáááing good.
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♪ ♪
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We have two airplanes
in the family.
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Being broke sucks and being rich
is a lot better.
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I got you looking just right.
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- Got to make sure
the jury likes me today.
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- Every day.
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My husband is the nation's
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leading plaintiff's attorney.
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My husband's 76.
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- Wow.
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- Oh, my God,
the look on their faces.
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[gasps] Give me a break.
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- What is he like in the sack?
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- Erika's very over the top.
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The blonde hair, the boobs,
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the pink, the sparkles,
you know?
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She may be giving
Lisa Vanderpump
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a little run for her money.
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- Pat the puss, pat the puss.
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Pat the puss,
drop it down, bounce.
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- I have an alter ego.
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Her name is Erika Jayne.
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- I think this is
outrageously amazing.
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- Raunchy.
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- Who is it?
- Oh, my God.
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- ♪ I'm a temptress ♪
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- Wow.
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- ♪ I'm your mistress ♪
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♪ ♪
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♪ I'm a princess ♪
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I think every woman
has a little bit
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of Erika Jayne inside of her.
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She's just dying to get out.
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♪ ♪
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[cheers and applause]
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- I'm realizing that Erika's
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interview look,
is it your dress?
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- No.
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You had a top, right?
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- It's the same, yeah.
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- It's the same color?
- Tom Ford?
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- Yeah.
- Oh, is it?
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- Yeah.
- The top?
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- Yeah, just the top.
- All right.
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- She has the dress.
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- Lisa.
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[laughter]
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So how has being
on the show affected
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the business
of being Erika Jayne?
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- Erika Jayne who lived
in the clubs
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in a very specific audience
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is now in people's
living rooms, and women
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my age are coming up to me
and saying, "Pat the puss,"
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and "I bought PAINKILLR,"
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and that's good and that's cool,
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and listen,
not without criticism too,
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but more positive than negative.
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- Luann from Everett,
Washington, says,
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"Lisa Vanderpump, you are
16 years younger than Ken."
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- Yeah.
- "Why did you give Erika
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"such a hard time
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for being married
to an older man?"
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- Well, I didn't give her
a hard time, but when I was
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first told it was like
there's 35 years and she
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even kind of gave me a wink...
- 32.
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I'm not that... - 32.
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- I'm not that young!
- Okay, 32.
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- But it makes no difference.
- And she kind of... no, I mean,
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ultimately it doesn't make
a difference.
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- Yeah.
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- It's kind of like a...
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- It's fine.
- Different thing,
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but I think it's lovely.
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- But it was a judgment,
you know, I mean...
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- Yeah, well,
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she had fun with it, though.
- Yeah.
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Because she could take it.
- Yeah.
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- Okay, I feel better about
dating 25-year-olds.
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- Oh, yeah, exactly.
- Well, you should do
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whatever the hell
you want, honey.
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- I have to assume,
though, that 16 years ago,
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when you and Tom got together,
that there were a lot of people
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calling you golddigger for real.
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- Oh, my gosh, listen.
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His partners and their wives...
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hating on my ass.
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- Because you were, like,
in your 20s?
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- I was 27, I was 27.
- Yeah.
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- So, Erika, you were married
once before?
258
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- Yes.
- How many years ago?
259
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- Uh, when I was 20.
260
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- And you have a son
from that marriage?
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- I do.
- And he's a police officer?
262
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- Yes, LAPD.
- Wow.
263
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- Yeah.
- And we didn't
264
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see him really on the show.
265
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- You know, he's private.
266
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He has a tough job.
- Plus, he's, you know...
267
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- Does it scare you
that he's in the line of fire?
268
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I mean... yeah?
- Yeah, it's rough out there.
269
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- I was amused then to see you
270
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having lunch with Tom...
- Yeah, yeah.
271
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- And then you run
into the chief of police.
272
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- Well, he's an old
friend of ours.
273
00:08:26,570 --> 00:08:28,009
No! - I'm sorry, sir.
274
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We going to have to tow
your car.
275
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- No way. No way!
276
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Hi, Chief!
- Look how gorgeous you look.
277
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- How are you?
- Oh, my God.
278
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- What does your son think
of Erika Jayne?
279
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- My son has been
so supportive of me.
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We've been supportive
of each other.
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You can imagine when your child
comes to you and says,
282
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"Listen, I want to be
a police officer,"
283
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and you go, "Okay,
maybe this will wear off,"
284
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and it just kept getting
stronger and stronger.
285
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I accept him for who he is
and what his dreams are,
286
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and he accepts me
for who I am and what I do,
287
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and I think that's
what makes our relationship
288
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so unique and so close.
289
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- What did you all make
290
00:08:58,333 --> 00:09:02,073
of Erika schlepping
her glam squad to Dubai?
291
00:09:02,100 --> 00:09:03,470
- Unbelievable.
- Lucky girl.
292
00:09:03,500 --> 00:09:05,700
- Yeah, I mean, she has
an amazing glam squad.
293
00:09:05,734 --> 00:09:07,334
- How did our look hold out?
Was it good?
294
00:09:07,367 --> 00:09:09,467
- I felt it looked great
until they tied this, like,
295
00:09:09,500 --> 00:09:11,600
black bedouin thing around
my head, and I was like,
296
00:09:11,633 --> 00:09:13,333
"No, there goes my head."
- Over the braid?
297
00:09:13,367 --> 00:09:14,576
- "There goes my mohawk."
298
00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:17,000
- What do you think
you spend a year on your glam?
299
00:09:17,033 --> 00:09:19,403
- Gosh, I mean, it's high.
300
00:09:19,433 --> 00:09:20,710
It's high.
301
00:09:20,734 --> 00:09:22,334
- When your husband
gets that bill,
302
00:09:22,367 --> 00:09:23,443
what's the conversation?
303
00:09:23,467 --> 00:09:24,567
- Uh, we don't have one.
304
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[laughter]
305
00:09:28,100 --> 00:09:29,540
- Abe from Highland Park,
California,
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writes, "I love, love,
love patting the puss.
307
00:09:32,734 --> 00:09:34,448
You should trademark it." - Yes.
308
00:09:34,472 --> 00:09:36,044
- "Did you invent the move
yourself?"
309
00:09:36,068 --> 00:09:37,043
- No.
310
00:09:37,067 --> 00:09:38,666
- Did Mikey do that?
- No.
311
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It is a dance hall move.
312
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It comes from, uh,
Caribbean, Jamaican dance.
313
00:09:42,767 --> 00:09:44,567
- Can you show me
how to pat the puss?
314
00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:46,345
- Do you want me to?
- I would love it, yeah.
315
00:09:46,369 --> 00:09:47,976
- Yes, we'd like to see this.
- Yeah, yeah, we would love it.
316
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- Ay-yi-yi-yi.
317
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[techno dance music]
318
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So we're gonna...
Thank you, Yolanda.
319
00:09:51,467 --> 00:09:53,076
- Can we all do it?
Will you teach us?
320
00:09:53,100 --> 00:09:54,100
- Will you please?
- Yeah.
321
00:09:54,133 --> 00:09:55,209
- Can I do
a pat-the-puss tutorial?
322
00:09:55,233 --> 00:09:56,376
- Yeah, do the pat-the-puss
tutorial.
323
00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:57,476
- Let's all do it with her.
324
00:09:57,500 --> 00:09:58,643
- I'll watch.
- Give her a moment.
325
00:09:58,667 --> 00:09:59,743
- All right.
- No, it's fine.
326
00:09:59,767 --> 00:10:00,744
- It's your moment.
- Pat the puss.
327
00:10:00,768 --> 00:10:02,209
- Show us how to do it.
- Pat the puss.
328
00:10:02,233 --> 00:10:03,643
- So you're gonna...
You're gonna roll
329
00:10:03,667 --> 00:10:05,467
to the left and pat the top.
330
00:10:05,500 --> 00:10:07,600
And roll to the left
and pat the top.
331
00:10:07,633 --> 00:10:09,733
And roll and pat,
and roll and pat.
332
00:10:09,767 --> 00:10:10,744
- Very well done.
- Yeah.
333
00:10:10,768 --> 00:10:12,209
- Yay! [applause]
334
00:10:12,233 --> 00:10:14,609
- That is a reunion first.
335
00:10:14,633 --> 00:10:15,703
Coming up...
336
00:10:15,734 --> 00:10:18,334
- I would've hoped to wait
337
00:10:18,367 --> 00:10:21,076
until I got well where
I could start dealing
338
00:10:21,100 --> 00:10:22,643
with all the issues
that we had in the marriage.
339
00:10:22,667 --> 00:10:24,097
- So it was not your choice?
340
00:10:30,667 --> 00:10:31,667
- Welcome back to
341
00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:34,376
"The Real Housewives
of Beverly Hills" reunion.
342
00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:35,500
I'm Andy Cohen.
343
00:10:35,533 --> 00:10:38,373
Erika, Mary from
Provo, Utah, writes,
344
00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:40,245
"I watched your
music videos online
345
00:10:40,269 --> 00:10:42,626
"and walked away feeling
like I just watched porn.
346
00:10:42,667 --> 00:10:45,227
"Why so sexual,
and aren't you too old
347
00:10:45,266 --> 00:10:47,509
to be prancing around
half-naked like that?"
348
00:10:47,533 --> 00:10:49,233
- Oh, Mary, dear,
349
00:10:49,266 --> 00:10:50,643
I'm so sorry
that she's given up in life,
350
00:10:50,667 --> 00:10:52,643
but I have not.
351
00:10:52,667 --> 00:10:54,997
No, you're not too old
to be a sexual being,
352
00:10:55,033 --> 00:10:58,103
and I am proud of what I do.
353
00:10:58,133 --> 00:11:00,403
- I was surprised that you
called her videos raunchy.
354
00:11:00,433 --> 00:11:01,633
I mean, you?
355
00:11:01,667 --> 00:11:03,197
- I think they're beautiful.
356
00:11:03,233 --> 00:11:04,303
I really do.
357
00:11:04,333 --> 00:11:06,003
I've only seen
a few of them now.
358
00:11:06,033 --> 00:11:08,133
- Lisa, I don't... it's fine.
359
00:11:08,166 --> 00:11:10,009
I don't... it doesn't bother me.
360
00:11:10,033 --> 00:11:11,280
- It was a moment, and I...
361
00:11:11,304 --> 00:11:12,409
- It's fine.
362
00:11:12,433 --> 00:11:14,273
- I hope we've moved on
from it, you know?
363
00:11:14,300 --> 00:11:15,676
- I moved on the moment
you said it.
364
00:11:15,700 --> 00:11:16,676
- I know.
365
00:11:16,700 --> 00:11:17,700
Good. - Quite simply.
366
00:11:17,734 --> 00:11:19,151
I don't even care.
- I look at it...
367
00:11:19,175 --> 00:11:20,296
- It's all good with me.
368
00:11:20,333 --> 00:11:22,550
- Yolanda, which is
the dominant personality?
369
00:11:22,574 --> 00:11:25,427
Erika Jayne or Erika Girardi?
370
00:11:25,467 --> 00:11:26,676
- Erika Girardi.
- Yeah.
371
00:11:26,700 --> 00:11:28,409
- Erika Girardi?
- By far.
372
00:11:28,433 --> 00:11:30,679
- I've only seen her be
Erika Jayne on stage.
373
00:11:30,703 --> 00:11:33,000
- Right.
- Otherwise she's Erika Girardi,
374
00:11:33,033 --> 00:11:34,279
and I think that her husband,
375
00:11:34,303 --> 00:11:36,409
the fact that he's...
He loves her so much
376
00:11:36,433 --> 00:11:38,673
and he's so open to that
is amazing.
377
00:11:38,700 --> 00:11:41,170
- You seem very submissive
to your husband.
378
00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:43,145
- Well, submissive,
I don't think so.
379
00:11:43,169 --> 00:11:45,176
I think respectful,
yes, because you know,
380
00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:47,670
the man works hard
and has given me a lot,
381
00:11:47,700 --> 00:11:49,176
and he deserves...
- And loves you, right?
382
00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:51,030
- Yeah, loves me a lot
and, you know...
383
00:11:51,066 --> 00:11:55,166
- It's just interesting
how traditional your marriage is
384
00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:58,670
considering how
out there Erika Jayne is.
385
00:11:58,700 --> 00:12:00,447
- Oh, yeah, it seems
such an oxymoron.
386
00:12:00,471 --> 00:12:02,576
- But it's been... but 17 years.
387
00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:04,200
It's worked for 17 years.
388
00:12:04,233 --> 00:12:05,710
Erika Jayne wasn't
probably there
389
00:12:05,734 --> 00:12:06,710
when you met Tom...
- No, she was...
390
00:12:06,734 --> 00:12:07,711
- So she came in the process.
- Yeah.
391
00:12:07,735 --> 00:12:09,334
- When did Erika Jayne happen?
392
00:12:09,367 --> 00:12:12,297
- 2007, but Erika Jayne
is also living
393
00:12:12,333 --> 00:12:14,473
in a very specific space,
you know?
394
00:12:14,500 --> 00:12:15,609
I'm not Erika Jayne at home.
395
00:12:15,633 --> 00:12:17,003
- When she wakes up.
396
00:12:17,033 --> 00:12:18,173
- I'm not in a catsuit
397
00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:19,476
rolling all around on the floor.
398
00:12:19,500 --> 00:12:21,045
- How many catsuits do you own?
399
00:12:21,069 --> 00:12:22,426
- Oh, gosh, it's endless.
400
00:12:22,467 --> 00:12:23,467
It's endless.
401
00:12:23,500 --> 00:12:25,309
- Good.
402
00:12:25,333 --> 00:12:27,209
Okay, I want to change
the subject.
403
00:12:27,233 --> 00:12:30,203
Yolanda, Gigi and Bella are two
404
00:12:30,233 --> 00:12:31,703
of the biggest models
in the world.
405
00:12:31,734 --> 00:12:33,343
- Unbelievable.
- Congratulations.
406
00:12:33,367 --> 00:12:34,609
- Thank you.
I didn't do anything.
407
00:12:34,633 --> 00:12:35,703
- Well...
- It's all...
408
00:12:35,734 --> 00:12:36,751
- Oh, yes, you did.
- Yeah, you did.
409
00:12:36,775 --> 00:12:38,327
- You really did.
- Yeah.
410
00:12:38,367 --> 00:12:41,227
- And now I hear Anwar's
getting in on the action?
411
00:12:41,266 --> 00:12:43,476
- He's not quite sure,
but I think it's just
412
00:12:43,500 --> 00:12:46,470
a great opportunity to open
his horizons.
413
00:12:46,500 --> 00:12:48,330
- That's great.
- Yeah.
414
00:12:48,367 --> 00:12:50,167
- Monique from Las Vegas said,
415
00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:53,076
"Gigi posed naked on the cover
of French 'Vogue.'
416
00:12:53,100 --> 00:12:55,430
As her mom, how did you
feel about that?"
417
00:12:55,467 --> 00:12:57,476
- I thought it was...
It was her decision,
418
00:12:57,500 --> 00:12:59,170
and hey, where else to do it
419
00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:00,347
than on the cover
of French "Vogue"?
420
00:13:00,371 --> 00:13:01,476
- Exactly.
421
00:13:01,500 --> 00:13:02,700
- I agree.
422
00:13:02,734 --> 00:13:04,434
- Yolanda, Rob from Miami said,
423
00:13:04,467 --> 00:13:08,076
"I read that you just moved
into a swanky new condo,
424
00:13:08,100 --> 00:13:10,100
"but I bet it doesn't
have a walk-in fridge.
425
00:13:10,133 --> 00:13:12,603
"How much do you miss
your refrigerator?
426
00:13:12,633 --> 00:13:14,133
And has it tweeted you lately?"
427
00:13:14,166 --> 00:13:16,196
- Oh...
- Did the Twitter go?
428
00:13:16,233 --> 00:13:17,643
- Yeah, the fridge
is still tweeting.
429
00:13:17,667 --> 00:13:18,976
- The fridge is still tweeting?
430
00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:20,130
- Yes.
- Yes.
431
00:13:20,166 --> 00:13:21,366
- Yeah, she's still on there.
432
00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:22,976
- How is the new place?
- It's great.
433
00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:24,142
It's coming, you know,
it takes time.
434
00:13:24,166 --> 00:13:25,643
I sold my house furnished,
435
00:13:25,667 --> 00:13:26,743
so I had nothing. - Oh, wow.
436
00:13:26,767 --> 00:13:27,727
- Wow.
- Just my clothes
437
00:13:27,767 --> 00:13:28,767
and picture frames, yeah.
438
00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:30,130
- That's a lot to let go of.
439
00:13:30,166 --> 00:13:31,376
- Oh, wow.
- Yeah.
440
00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:32,670
- For almost four years,
441
00:13:32,700 --> 00:13:34,376
we've witnessed the seemingly
442
00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:38,109
idyllic marriage
of Yolanda and David Foster,
443
00:13:38,133 --> 00:13:41,073
but as Yolanda's illness
lingered,
444
00:13:41,100 --> 00:13:43,670
cracks in their relationship
began to show.
445
00:13:43,700 --> 00:13:45,200
Watch.
446
00:13:45,233 --> 00:13:47,373
- To my husband: You married me,
447
00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:48,530
and down I went.
448
00:13:48,567 --> 00:13:49,527
I love you.
449
00:13:49,567 --> 00:13:50,997
I'm gonna make it up to you.
450
00:13:51,033 --> 00:13:52,543
- We're gonna make lemonade
out of lemons, right?
451
00:13:52,567 --> 00:13:53,710
- We're gonna make lemonade
out of lemons.
452
00:13:53,734 --> 00:13:56,234
- We're gonna make big lemonade,
baby, tonight.
453
00:13:56,266 --> 00:13:57,666
- Tonight?
- Okay.
454
00:13:57,700 --> 00:13:59,142
Party's over!
455
00:13:59,166 --> 00:14:00,626
- The minute I... you know,
456
00:14:00,667 --> 00:14:03,127
David and I got married,
I got sick.
457
00:14:03,166 --> 00:14:06,166
Obviously, it has been
very taxing
458
00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:07,530
on my relationship.
459
00:14:07,567 --> 00:14:08,527
- You be the patient,
460
00:14:08,567 --> 00:14:10,297
I'll be the doctor, okay?
461
00:14:10,333 --> 00:14:12,233
- Okay, Dr. Foster.
462
00:14:12,266 --> 00:14:14,526
It's so important
for me to have David
463
00:14:14,567 --> 00:14:16,676
here by my side in this part
464
00:14:16,700 --> 00:14:18,770
of my journey,
and I couldn't imagine
465
00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:20,100
doing it without him.
466
00:14:20,133 --> 00:14:21,373
- You did good, baby.
467
00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:22,543
Thanks, darling.
468
00:14:22,567 --> 00:14:23,710
- You're welcome. Bye, David.
469
00:14:23,734 --> 00:14:25,109
- I love you, baby.
- Love you, baby.
470
00:14:25,133 --> 00:14:26,409
- Aren't you happy
you married me?
471
00:14:26,433 --> 00:14:28,033
- Thrilled.
- Love you, baby.
472
00:14:28,066 --> 00:14:29,296
- [sighs]
473
00:14:29,333 --> 00:14:32,203
- Yolanda and David
are getting a divorce.
474
00:14:32,233 --> 00:14:33,473
- [sighs]
475
00:14:33,500 --> 00:14:36,070
- If you stop making
each other happy,
476
00:14:36,100 --> 00:14:37,576
then you shouldn't be together.
477
00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:40,176
Divorce is almost like a death.
478
00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:43,700
Let's walk outside
and see our beautiful view.
479
00:14:43,734 --> 00:14:47,134
David was my life partner,
my best friend...
480
00:14:47,166 --> 00:14:49,426
and now I miss my best friend.
481
00:14:53,066 --> 00:14:55,326
- So I know this is a tough time
482
00:14:55,367 --> 00:14:58,467
on top of another tough time
for you.
483
00:14:58,500 --> 00:15:01,270
I think it was such
a shock to everybody
484
00:15:01,300 --> 00:15:02,700
who watched the show.
485
00:15:02,734 --> 00:15:04,434
We saw you being so loving
486
00:15:04,467 --> 00:15:05,727
to each other.
487
00:15:05,767 --> 00:15:08,167
Why did you decide to divorce?
488
00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:10,200
- It didn't just happen
overnight.
489
00:15:10,233 --> 00:15:13,579
I got sick a couple of months
before we got married,
490
00:15:13,603 --> 00:15:15,470
and I dropped off the planet.
491
00:15:15,500 --> 00:15:18,070
Being chronically ill
for that long
492
00:15:18,100 --> 00:15:19,347
takes the life out of you,
493
00:15:19,371 --> 00:15:21,327
but also of your caretaker.
494
00:15:21,367 --> 00:15:25,467
You can't underestimate how much
it takes for a man
495
00:15:25,500 --> 00:15:27,730
to take care of somebody
that's sick all the time.
496
00:15:27,767 --> 00:15:30,476
Oh, I'm sure that I haven't been
497
00:15:30,500 --> 00:15:31,730
the wife that I used to be,
498
00:15:31,767 --> 00:15:34,297
and I wasn't the mother
I used to be.
499
00:15:34,333 --> 00:15:35,573
You know, it's like you change.
500
00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:37,076
You know, David didn't change.
501
00:15:37,100 --> 00:15:39,100
I'm the one that changed,
and you know,
502
00:15:39,133 --> 00:15:41,079
I guess this is the outcome
of that.
503
00:15:41,103 --> 00:15:42,370
- You've been divorced.
504
00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:43,770
- It's the worst thing.
505
00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:46,076
It's really suffering a death.
506
00:15:46,100 --> 00:15:47,242
- It's like losing
your best friend.
507
00:15:47,266 --> 00:15:49,096
- It is.
It's losing your best friend.
508
00:15:49,133 --> 00:15:52,209
It's letting go of something
that was your world,
509
00:15:52,233 --> 00:15:54,209
and it's very, very painful,
510
00:15:54,233 --> 00:15:56,733
and I... I'm sorry.
511
00:15:56,767 --> 00:15:58,376
I really am.
- Thank you, sweetie.
512
00:15:58,400 --> 00:15:59,376
- I am too.
- Yeah, that's very sad.
513
00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:00,377
- I know you are.
514
00:16:00,401 --> 00:16:02,976
- It must be very hard.
515
00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:08,200
- What do you think
about criticism that he's gotten
516
00:16:08,233 --> 00:16:10,233
for not wanting to be
with you when you're sick?
517
00:16:10,266 --> 00:16:12,242
- No, I don't think anybody
should criticize that
518
00:16:12,266 --> 00:16:15,066
because unless you've walked
in our shoes
519
00:16:15,100 --> 00:16:17,130
and lived our journey,
you shouldn't be judging it.
520
00:16:17,166 --> 00:16:19,509
He is a really good man.
521
00:16:19,533 --> 00:16:21,250
He's done a lot
of great things for me.
522
00:16:21,274 --> 00:16:24,376
He supported me
for all those years,
523
00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:27,130
and... and he deserves credit
for that.
524
00:16:27,166 --> 00:16:29,396
- Did you know,
or were you blindsided?
525
00:16:29,433 --> 00:16:31,273
Like when we were at Wally's
526
00:16:31,300 --> 00:16:32,376
and you seemed emotional.
527
00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:33,509
Are you okay? - I'm okay.
528
00:16:33,533 --> 00:16:34,643
- No, you're not. You're not.
529
00:16:34,667 --> 00:16:35,627
- I'm okay.
- What's wrong?
530
00:16:35,667 --> 00:16:37,267
- No, nothing.
- What's wrong?
531
00:16:37,300 --> 00:16:38,409
- Nothing.
- What's wrong?
532
00:16:38,433 --> 00:16:39,703
Why are you gonna cry?
533
00:16:39,734 --> 00:16:41,142
- I'm not crying.
534
00:16:41,166 --> 00:16:43,142
No, I was emotional about you.
- All right.
535
00:16:43,166 --> 00:16:45,142
- When I looked at you
that moment, I was like,
536
00:16:45,166 --> 00:16:46,409
I really want to believe you...
537
00:16:46,433 --> 00:16:48,403
- Yeah.
- Not having talked
538
00:16:48,433 --> 00:16:50,403
about my children,
and I got emotional because...
539
00:16:50,433 --> 00:16:52,533
- So it wasn't to do
with the marriage then?
540
00:16:52,567 --> 00:16:53,544
- No, not at all.
541
00:16:53,568 --> 00:16:54,676
- Did you know anything then?
542
00:16:54,700 --> 00:16:56,000
- Not that night, no.
543
00:16:56,033 --> 00:16:57,276
- So you still...
544
00:16:57,300 --> 00:16:59,145
Was the marriage crumbling, or...
545
00:16:59,169 --> 00:17:01,366
- No, it's not
the marriage cru...
546
00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:04,270
It just came... we had,
547
00:17:04,300 --> 00:17:06,100
you know, a falling out
548
00:17:06,133 --> 00:17:08,679
on November 2nd,
and we both just had to make
549
00:17:08,703 --> 00:17:10,500
conscious decisions
of, you know,
550
00:17:10,533 --> 00:17:12,676
where... where is this going?
551
00:17:12,700 --> 00:17:15,400
- What do you... you mean you had
a fight on November 2nd, or...
552
00:17:15,433 --> 00:17:16,550
- We just had... yeah.
553
00:17:16,574 --> 00:17:19,443
We had a, you know, a disc...
Yeah.
554
00:17:19,467 --> 00:17:21,176
- A fight or a discussion?
- Not a fight.
555
00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:22,270
A discussion, not a fight.
556
00:17:22,300 --> 00:17:24,047
- To follow up on...
On what you said,
557
00:17:24,071 --> 00:17:26,696
I mean, did you feel blindsided?
558
00:17:26,734 --> 00:17:29,311
- Yeah, I didn't think that
that was the end of the road.
559
00:17:29,335 --> 00:17:33,203
I would've hoped to wait
until I got 100% well,
560
00:17:33,233 --> 00:17:36,710
where I could really start
dealing with all the...
561
00:17:36,734 --> 00:17:39,434
You know, the issues
that we had in the marriage.
562
00:17:39,467 --> 00:17:41,309
- So it was not your choice?
563
00:17:41,333 --> 00:17:42,710
- You know, it's together.
564
00:17:42,734 --> 00:17:44,334
It doesn't really matter.
565
00:17:44,367 --> 00:17:46,697
It... it... you know,
it came to a halt.
566
00:17:46,734 --> 00:17:48,434
We came to a dead end, you know?
567
00:17:48,467 --> 00:17:52,443
There's conversations, then,
you know, it just... it happened,
568
00:17:52,467 --> 00:17:53,543
and it really doesn't matter.
569
00:17:53,567 --> 00:17:54,710
I don't want to sit here
570
00:17:54,734 --> 00:17:57,579
and start, you know,
analyzing my marriage.
571
00:17:57,603 --> 00:17:59,710
That's really private
between David and I,
572
00:17:59,734 --> 00:18:02,074
and our family, and, uh...
573
00:18:02,100 --> 00:18:03,430
And I'd like to leave it
at that.
574
00:18:03,467 --> 00:18:06,097
- Do you blame your illness
on the divorce?
575
00:18:06,133 --> 00:18:08,473
Do you think if you were healthy
you would be together?
576
00:18:08,500 --> 00:18:10,300
- Um, I think...
577
00:18:10,333 --> 00:18:13,203
[dramatic music]
578
00:18:13,233 --> 00:18:15,303
[stutters]
579
00:18:15,333 --> 00:18:16,343
- Coming up...
580
00:18:16,367 --> 00:18:17,697
- It took a toll on my marriage.
581
00:18:17,734 --> 00:18:19,334
It took a toll on friendships.
582
00:18:19,367 --> 00:18:20,476
- You think you've had
a hard time?
583
00:18:20,500 --> 00:18:21,630
You have no idea.
584
00:18:26,133 --> 00:18:27,813
- Do you blame your illness
on the divorce?
585
00:18:28,333 --> 00:18:30,476
Do you think if you were healthy
you would be together?
586
00:18:30,500 --> 00:18:32,500
- Um, I think...
587
00:18:32,533 --> 00:18:35,209
[stutters] Probably, yeah.
588
00:18:35,233 --> 00:18:37,573
We probably would be together
to be honest with you, yes,
589
00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:41,170
because we... we were
a great team.
590
00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:44,376
I've lost my best friend,
but, um,
591
00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:47,109
you know, it's life.
592
00:18:47,133 --> 00:18:49,650
- What is your contact like
with David now?
593
00:18:49,674 --> 00:18:54,527
- We, um, we're taking time.
594
00:18:54,567 --> 00:18:56,244
- Apart?
- Time, you know.
595
00:18:56,268 --> 00:18:58,509
Just time to... to settle.
596
00:18:58,533 --> 00:19:00,233
- I'm wondering
from the other ladies,
597
00:19:00,266 --> 00:19:01,326
were you surprised?
598
00:19:01,367 --> 00:19:02,376
Did you see this coming?
- Very surprised.
599
00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:04,770
Very saddened by it as well,
600
00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:06,976
because I think we'd all,
601
00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:09,400
you know, loved him and
just didn't understand.
602
00:19:09,433 --> 00:19:11,603
I always felt
that you were solid.
603
00:19:11,633 --> 00:19:12,979
I mean, that's my perception.
604
00:19:13,003 --> 00:19:14,276
- But we've be... we were solid.
605
00:19:14,300 --> 00:19:15,600
We were very solid, you know,
606
00:19:15,633 --> 00:19:17,109
but things happen.
- Do you know what I'm saying?
607
00:19:17,133 --> 00:19:18,380
- I don't know what goes on
behind your bedroom doors.
608
00:19:18,404 --> 00:19:19,630
- No, but if I suddenly...
609
00:19:19,667 --> 00:19:22,097
Ken and I were
suddenly separating,
610
00:19:22,133 --> 00:19:24,103
I'm sure you would
be gobsmacked.
611
00:19:24,133 --> 00:19:25,409
- No, I... it'd be shocking.
- Yeah.
612
00:19:25,433 --> 00:19:26,443
- But you know what,
it's life, though.
613
00:19:26,467 --> 00:19:27,576
- That's exactly how I felt.
614
00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:29,630
- If I look around
in today's world,
615
00:19:29,667 --> 00:19:31,009
it's not that shocking.
616
00:19:31,033 --> 00:19:32,148
These things happen.
- No, but I saw no signs of it.
617
00:19:32,172 --> 00:19:33,576
- And it happened
to me, and it sucks.
618
00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:35,100
- I'm saying that's why.
619
00:19:35,133 --> 00:19:37,403
- Erika, did Yolanda
confide in you
620
00:19:37,433 --> 00:19:39,373
about what was going on
in her marriage?
621
00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:41,676
- You know, Andy, um...
622
00:19:41,700 --> 00:19:44,009
I have not answered
this question,
623
00:19:44,033 --> 00:19:45,573
and out of respect
for my friend,
624
00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:47,042
I will not answer it now... no.
- But you can.
625
00:19:47,066 --> 00:19:48,676
- Well, I'm just asking
if you two discussed it?
626
00:19:48,700 --> 00:19:50,570
- I mean, we talk, yeah.
- Yeah.
627
00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:52,009
- I'm not asking
what you talked about.
628
00:19:52,033 --> 00:19:53,543
- Yeah, yeah.
- Good. We talked.
629
00:19:53,567 --> 00:19:54,544
- What did you talk about?
630
00:19:54,568 --> 00:19:56,543
[laughter]
631
00:19:56,567 --> 00:19:58,142
- Andy.
632
00:19:58,166 --> 00:20:00,526
- When you look back
at the scenes
633
00:20:00,567 --> 00:20:03,097
of the two of you
that happened this season,
634
00:20:03,133 --> 00:20:07,576
it seems like there's a lot
of foreshadowing going on.
635
00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:10,000
- Yeah, but you know what,
you can't look at it that way.
636
00:20:10,033 --> 00:20:11,176
- Okay.
637
00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:13,700
- Because, you know,
that is real life.
638
00:20:13,734 --> 00:20:17,047
That's how, you know,
now we can pick it all apart
639
00:20:17,071 --> 00:20:19,596
and go,
"Oh, David's jokes are so bad."
640
00:20:19,633 --> 00:20:21,203
Well, you've known David.
641
00:20:21,233 --> 00:20:22,203
That's just his sense of humor.
642
00:20:22,233 --> 00:20:23,309
- He always says things... yeah.
643
00:20:23,333 --> 00:20:24,450
- You can't now go,
"Oh, he's like...
644
00:20:24,474 --> 00:20:25,576
- David's a good man.
645
00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:26,670
He's a really good man.
646
00:20:26,700 --> 00:20:28,170
- But his sense of humor
647
00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:30,670
is kind of sarcastic,
and if you feel good it's funny,
648
00:20:30,700 --> 00:20:32,430
and I don't even react
to it because I'm
649
00:20:32,467 --> 00:20:34,127
so used to it for nine years.
- Mm-hmm.
650
00:20:34,166 --> 00:20:36,466
- But yes, we can now all
sit here and start...
651
00:20:36,500 --> 00:20:38,470
- Dissecting.
- You know, dissecting going,
652
00:20:38,500 --> 00:20:39,609
"Oh, he's a bad..."
he's a good man.
653
00:20:39,633 --> 00:20:40,703
- Good man.
- Mm-hmm.
654
00:20:40,734 --> 00:20:42,134
- Kyle, you've said you were
655
00:20:42,166 --> 00:20:44,026
depressed after
your mother's death,
656
00:20:44,066 --> 00:20:46,596
and that you even
had physical symptoms
657
00:20:46,633 --> 00:20:48,333
that nobody could diagnose.
658
00:20:48,367 --> 00:20:52,067
Do you think that Yolanda's
marital issues could've
659
00:20:52,100 --> 00:20:54,430
subconsciously been
affecting her health?
660
00:20:54,467 --> 00:20:56,209
- I mean, I'm not
a psychologist,
661
00:20:56,233 --> 00:20:57,733
but, um, I actually...
662
00:20:57,767 --> 00:21:00,097
When my mom died,
663
00:21:00,133 --> 00:21:01,750
I had, you know,
all these physical symptoms
664
00:21:01,774 --> 00:21:04,743
brought on by the stress
and the depression, I think.
665
00:21:04,767 --> 00:21:08,627
- But do you think because,
you know, the age you are...
666
00:21:08,667 --> 00:21:10,609
And I'm a couple of years
older than you,
667
00:21:10,633 --> 00:21:12,347
that also you put Lyme disease,
668
00:21:12,371 --> 00:21:14,476
and then you put
menopausal symptoms,
669
00:21:14,500 --> 00:21:17,330
which obviously,
are part of life,
670
00:21:17,367 --> 00:21:18,697
and you put that all together,
671
00:21:18,734 --> 00:21:20,076
and it's exacerbated.
- [stuttering]
672
00:21:20,100 --> 00:21:21,476
What matter... it doesn't
make a difference to me.
673
00:21:21,500 --> 00:21:22,609
- Well, because hormonally
674
00:21:22,633 --> 00:21:24,203
I think you go up
and down, and...
675
00:21:24,233 --> 00:21:26,743
- No, I've had that pellet
in my butt, you know...
676
00:21:26,767 --> 00:21:27,744
- Oh.
677
00:21:27,768 --> 00:21:29,097
- My hormones are perfect.
678
00:21:29,133 --> 00:21:30,409
We check them
every three months.
679
00:21:30,433 --> 00:21:31,509
- What's a pellet in your butt?
- They're perfect.
680
00:21:31,533 --> 00:21:32,973
- I don't know.
- Can I get a pellet?
681
00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:33,977
- Yeah, ask Daisy.
- I'd like one.
682
00:21:34,001 --> 00:21:35,142
- Pellet in your butt?
- What is it?
683
00:21:35,166 --> 00:21:36,209
- I want it.
- It's this new...
684
00:21:36,233 --> 00:21:37,203
- I need it.
- It's this new...
685
00:21:37,233 --> 00:21:38,533
It's a pellet. - Like implant.
686
00:21:38,567 --> 00:21:40,597
- Progestin, estrogen,
testosterone.
687
00:21:40,633 --> 00:21:42,379
I don't have it.
- Yeah, it's natural.
688
00:21:42,403 --> 00:21:43,500
It's natural hormones.
689
00:21:43,533 --> 00:21:44,978
- Have you had a pellet
in your butt?
690
00:21:45,002 --> 00:21:46,109
- No, I've had nothing
in my butt.
691
00:21:46,133 --> 00:21:47,473
- I'd like a pellet.
692
00:21:47,500 --> 00:21:50,109
- Yolanda, do you think
you were depressed?
693
00:21:50,133 --> 00:21:53,073
- You know what, I think
in times in the last four years
694
00:21:53,100 --> 00:21:55,100
I've felt really depressed,
695
00:21:55,133 --> 00:21:57,373
but more
circumstantial depressed,
696
00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:59,370
but not clinical depression,
697
00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:01,276
because I've suffered
clinical depression before
698
00:22:01,300 --> 00:22:03,470
in '99, so I've had the...
699
00:22:03,500 --> 00:22:04,530
- You did?
- Yeah.
700
00:22:04,567 --> 00:22:05,743
- I remember you telling me
that, yeah.
701
00:22:05,767 --> 00:22:07,727
- Because I broke my back
and, you know, I-I got
702
00:22:07,767 --> 00:22:10,527
into a really bad depression,
703
00:22:10,567 --> 00:22:11,676
so I have lived
through depression.
704
00:22:11,700 --> 00:22:13,430
I fear depression.
705
00:22:13,467 --> 00:22:16,009
- Do you think you'll ever
get married again?
706
00:22:16,033 --> 00:22:17,533
- No.
- No?
707
00:22:17,567 --> 00:22:18,543
- I don't think so, no.
708
00:22:18,567 --> 00:22:19,567
- You don't?
709
00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:21,230
- No, because I just need to get
710
00:22:21,266 --> 00:22:22,376
to the fáááing finishing line.
711
00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:23,370
- Exactly.
- Good for you.
712
00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:25,000
- I need to get well.
713
00:22:25,033 --> 00:22:26,003
I need to get on with my life.
714
00:22:26,033 --> 00:22:27,010
I need to be flying
715
00:22:27,034 --> 00:22:28,409
to Paris sitting front row
716
00:22:28,433 --> 00:22:31,403
to see my girls at fashion shows
and enjoy life,
717
00:22:31,433 --> 00:22:33,173
and that's the only... I have
718
00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:35,630
laser-beam focus just for that.
719
00:22:35,667 --> 00:22:39,142
- Very good.
720
00:22:39,166 --> 00:22:41,126
She's the former model
who likes football players,
721
00:22:41,166 --> 00:22:45,166
expensive handbags,
and stating her opinion
722
00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:46,630
whether you want to hear it
723
00:22:46,667 --> 00:22:49,027
or not, and she sure had
an opinion
724
00:22:49,066 --> 00:22:51,666
about Kyle's friend,
Faye Resnick.
725
00:22:51,700 --> 00:22:54,042
Here is Kathryn.
726
00:22:54,066 --> 00:22:55,196
[upbeat music]
727
00:22:55,233 --> 00:22:56,703
- I like to see your blue eyes.
728
00:22:56,734 --> 00:22:58,034
Hot, hot, hot.
729
00:22:58,066 --> 00:22:59,309
Golly, my wife is fine!
730
00:22:59,333 --> 00:23:01,443
[chuckling]
731
00:23:01,467 --> 00:23:03,127
- [laughs]
- Wow.
732
00:23:03,166 --> 00:23:04,426
- I'm the average girl.
733
00:23:04,467 --> 00:23:06,527
I love a great bag,
a nice pair of shoes,
734
00:23:06,567 --> 00:23:07,667
a beautiful watch.
735
00:23:07,700 --> 00:23:09,447
How much is this little diddy?
736
00:23:09,471 --> 00:23:11,443
- 3.8 million.
- Wow.
737
00:23:11,467 --> 00:23:12,743
If we want something,
we go get it.
738
00:23:12,767 --> 00:23:14,527
Did I just get a little bit
better looking?
739
00:23:14,567 --> 00:23:16,176
Oh, my God, I forgot an earplug!
- You need one?
740
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:17,609
- I really need one.
- What will happen?
741
00:23:17,633 --> 00:23:18,743
- Why do you need an earplug?
742
00:23:18,767 --> 00:23:20,443
- I have one good ear
for the rest of my life.
743
00:23:20,467 --> 00:23:21,997
I lost my hearing
744
00:23:22,033 --> 00:23:23,673
when I was going through
my divorce.
745
00:23:23,700 --> 00:23:25,430
My husband calls it
"selective hearing."
746
00:23:25,467 --> 00:23:26,997
I cannot... okay.
747
00:23:27,033 --> 00:23:29,473
Am I... is it picking up sound
right now?
748
00:23:29,500 --> 00:23:30,576
- You are gonna hear me
749
00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:31,710
more clearly,
and you're gonna hear
750
00:23:31,734 --> 00:23:33,209
your husband and everybody else
more clearly.
751
00:23:33,233 --> 00:23:37,203
- I had no idea how much
I-I was missing all these years.
752
00:23:37,233 --> 00:23:38,343
- You know what's flashing on me
753
00:23:38,367 --> 00:23:39,609
more than anything right now?
754
00:23:39,633 --> 00:23:40,733
- What?
755
00:23:40,767 --> 00:23:42,627
- O.J.
756
00:23:42,667 --> 00:23:43,743
I'm sorry to bring it up.
757
00:23:43,767 --> 00:23:44,743
- That's all right.
758
00:23:44,767 --> 00:23:45,744
- Like, that... that moment,
759
00:23:45,768 --> 00:23:47,067
that's what's flashing.
760
00:23:47,100 --> 00:23:48,570
- Kathryn must know Faye.
761
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:49,630
My friend, Faye.
762
00:23:49,667 --> 00:23:51,627
Faye's best friend
with Nicole Simpson.
763
00:23:51,667 --> 00:23:53,167
- I know, I know.
764
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,730
- Well, Faye wrote
a book about it.
765
00:23:55,767 --> 00:23:56,767
Do you know Faye Resnick?
766
00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,300
- Mm-mm.
767
00:23:59,333 --> 00:24:00,333
- Really?
768
00:24:00,367 --> 00:24:02,076
- Never met her, ever.
769
00:24:02,100 --> 00:24:04,346
My feelings about Faye Resnick
are not positive.
770
00:24:04,370 --> 00:24:05,743
She mentioned me in her book.
771
00:24:05,767 --> 00:24:07,197
I never read it,
772
00:24:07,233 --> 00:24:09,573
but in the book
she referenced me
773
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:11,746
and said that I was just
some kind of, you know,
774
00:24:11,770 --> 00:24:15,297
turn the blind eye,
look the other way kind of wife.
775
00:24:15,333 --> 00:24:16,379
I have to tell you, Faye,
776
00:24:16,403 --> 00:24:18,470
I've... I've never met you before,
777
00:24:18,500 --> 00:24:19,676
and I feel like I'm being phony
778
00:24:19,700 --> 00:24:21,376
if I sit here across the table
779
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:22,400
and not, like, address
780
00:24:22,433 --> 00:24:24,333
the elephant in the room.
781
00:24:24,367 --> 00:24:25,976
- I have nothing to say
to anyone about...
782
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:27,070
- No, I mean...
783
00:24:27,100 --> 00:24:29,730
- What happened
20-something years ago.
784
00:24:29,767 --> 00:24:31,327
If I've done anything
to offend anyone,
785
00:24:31,367 --> 00:24:33,127
I'm sorry. - I will never be
786
00:24:33,166 --> 00:24:35,376
Faye Resnick's friend.
787
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:36,509
It is. - I wouldn't say that.
788
00:24:36,533 --> 00:24:38,473
- Distasteful is a strong word?
789
00:24:38,500 --> 00:24:40,109
- I don't want to go there and
talk about that about her, so...
790
00:24:40,133 --> 00:24:42,250
- No, no, but that's
how I felt about it.
791
00:24:42,274 --> 00:24:45,109
- That was 21 years ago,
so, yeah.
792
00:24:45,133 --> 00:24:47,073
How does Kathryn have the balls
793
00:24:47,100 --> 00:24:48,647
to be speaking against my friend
794
00:24:48,671 --> 00:24:51,097
at my party
that I invited her to?
795
00:24:51,133 --> 00:24:53,643
Shut the fááá up.
796
00:24:53,667 --> 00:24:57,597
- Okay, um, lots to discuss.
797
00:24:57,633 --> 00:25:00,303
There's been a lot
of online chatter
798
00:25:00,333 --> 00:25:02,233
about how hot Donnie is.
799
00:25:02,266 --> 00:25:04,426
He won the
"Watch What Happens: Live" poll
800
00:25:04,467 --> 00:25:06,397
for hottest house husband.
801
00:25:06,433 --> 00:25:07,533
I mean, you know,
802
00:25:07,567 --> 00:25:09,567
Mauricio had held this title
for a long time.
803
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:10,570
- Yeah.
804
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:11,643
He still does to me, sorry.
805
00:25:11,667 --> 00:25:13,397
- Aww, he's very handsome.
806
00:25:13,433 --> 00:25:14,573
- Are you threatened
807
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,670
by the emergence of Donnie
to this group?
808
00:25:17,700 --> 00:25:21,142
- No, they're both
beautiful men.
809
00:25:21,166 --> 00:25:24,009
- Kyle, Faye Resnick tweeted
that she was not pleased
810
00:25:24,033 --> 00:25:27,773
about how she was portrayed
on the show this season.
811
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:29,430
What bothered her the most?
812
00:25:29,467 --> 00:25:31,397
- The women's interviews
were upsetting,
813
00:25:31,433 --> 00:25:33,042
and the things that people
said about her.
814
00:25:33,066 --> 00:25:34,710
You know, I hear these things
that people about say
815
00:25:34,734 --> 00:25:37,174
about her, and it's not
the person that I know.
816
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,000
The person I know
is an amazing mom,
817
00:25:39,033 --> 00:25:42,073
an amazing friend, an amazing
"aunt" to my children,
818
00:25:42,100 --> 00:25:44,710
and just giving, and happy,
and always in a good mood,
819
00:25:44,734 --> 00:25:46,076
and when I hear these things,
I think,
820
00:25:46,100 --> 00:25:48,430
"God, how can people be
so misunderstood?"
821
00:25:48,467 --> 00:25:50,327
It's just sad,
and it's frustrating.
822
00:25:50,367 --> 00:25:53,176
- My name was never mentioned.
823
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:56,130
My ex-husband's name was
never mentioned until Faye.
824
00:25:56,166 --> 00:25:57,710
- Well, I'm not talking
about the book.
825
00:25:57,734 --> 00:25:59,311
I'm not talking about the O.J.
826
00:25:59,335 --> 00:26:01,176
I'm talking about this arena
827
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:02,309
has been very difficult,
painful.
828
00:26:02,333 --> 00:26:03,703
- But, Kyle, she has her life.
829
00:26:03,734 --> 00:26:05,449
She lived it, so let...
- I understand that, Yolanda.
830
00:26:05,473 --> 00:26:07,297
- She can share that too.
- I understand that.
831
00:26:07,333 --> 00:26:10,443
I'm asking for her
to please not go down
832
00:26:10,467 --> 00:26:13,297
and talk about somebody
who's not signed up for this.
833
00:26:14,467 --> 00:26:16,297
- Ironic that the same time
834
00:26:16,333 --> 00:26:17,609
Faye was on this show...
- It's so weird.
835
00:26:17,633 --> 00:26:19,180
- Yeah, I know.
- She was being portrayed
836
00:26:19,204 --> 00:26:20,700
by Connie Britton... - So weird.
837
00:26:20,734 --> 00:26:22,374
- On "American Crime Story."
838
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:23,476
- Yeah, ironic.
- Did you watch that?
839
00:26:23,500 --> 00:26:25,330
- Complete facade.
- No, I won't...
840
00:26:25,367 --> 00:26:26,327
because I know the real Faye.
841
00:26:26,367 --> 00:26:27,327
I don't need to see a fake,
842
00:26:27,367 --> 00:26:29,467
um, version of Faye.
843
00:26:29,500 --> 00:26:30,643
- But what was your experience?
844
00:26:30,667 --> 00:26:32,209
I mean, share with us
because I think that if...
845
00:26:32,233 --> 00:26:33,210
- Ugh!
- In regard to what?
846
00:26:33,234 --> 00:26:34,743
- I mean your... your...
Your experience
847
00:26:34,767 --> 00:26:37,097
when you were going through it
in your marriage, I mean...
848
00:26:37,133 --> 00:26:38,479
- It took a toll on my marriage.
849
00:26:38,503 --> 00:26:40,476
It took a toll on friendships.
850
00:26:40,500 --> 00:26:41,609
It was horrible.
851
00:26:41,633 --> 00:26:43,473
And, Kyle, whether you want to
852
00:26:43,500 --> 00:26:45,070
understand my position or not,
853
00:26:45,100 --> 00:26:48,700
I associate my name
being involved with her.
854
00:26:48,734 --> 00:26:50,204
That's all.
855
00:26:50,233 --> 00:26:52,476
[dramatic music]
856
00:26:52,500 --> 00:26:53,700
- Coming up...
857
00:26:53,734 --> 00:26:56,204
- I'm so sensitive
to so much right now.
858
00:27:01,266 --> 00:27:03,066
- I associate
my name being involved with her.
859
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:06,643
- I understand that.
- That's all.
860
00:27:06,667 --> 00:27:07,644
- I understand that.
861
00:27:07,668 --> 00:27:09,376
- Were you still married to him
862
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:10,377
when the book came out, then?
863
00:27:10,401 --> 00:27:12,376
- Yes, yes.
864
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,000
- Oh, I see.
- Yes.
865
00:27:14,033 --> 00:27:15,650
- Jayson from
Shreveport, Louisiana,
866
00:27:15,674 --> 00:27:19,427
sent in a passage
from Faye's book.
867
00:27:23,633 --> 00:27:25,247
"At times we were worried
868
00:27:25,271 --> 00:27:27,509
"that O.J. might take revenge
on Marcus
869
00:27:27,533 --> 00:27:29,633
"by telling his fiancée,
Kathryn,
870
00:27:29,667 --> 00:27:31,267
"about the affair with Nicole.
871
00:27:31,300 --> 00:27:34,330
"That would've been a disaster
because Kathryn was
872
00:27:34,367 --> 00:27:38,242
"a sweet woman who was well
aware of Marcus' womanizing,
873
00:27:38,266 --> 00:27:41,242
and might've felt she had
to call off the wedding."
874
00:27:41,266 --> 00:27:43,266
- Where... where did she
get this from?
875
00:27:43,300 --> 00:27:44,509
- I didn't eve...
I didn't know her
876
00:27:44,533 --> 00:27:46,009
at the time, so I don't know.
877
00:27:46,033 --> 00:27:47,278
I only know the Faye I know now.
878
00:27:47,302 --> 00:27:49,276
- She was patronizing
in her comments at the end,
879
00:27:49,300 --> 00:27:50,409
and I know you're
protective of her,
880
00:27:50,433 --> 00:27:51,833
but her comment
at the end saying...
881
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:53,109
- Kathryn, I've been protecting.
You don't do that.
882
00:27:53,133 --> 00:27:54,276
- I know, but I'm saying this.
883
00:27:54,300 --> 00:27:56,142
- I'ma tell you right now,
she was not.
884
00:27:56,166 --> 00:27:57,976
You think... you don't know her.
- I don't know her.
885
00:27:58,000 --> 00:27:59,109
- When she said
you look beautiful,
886
00:27:59,133 --> 00:28:01,373
she meant that,
and then you said to me,
887
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,409
"Gosh, you know,
I've gotten to know Faye.
888
00:28:03,433 --> 00:28:04,576
"She's really a lovely person.
889
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:06,530
I'm really glad
I got to know her,"
890
00:28:06,567 --> 00:28:07,676
and then you wrote in your blog
891
00:28:07,700 --> 00:28:09,009
that, you know,
"I would never be friends,"
892
00:28:09,033 --> 00:28:10,142
and you said all these
horrible things,
893
00:28:10,166 --> 00:28:11,409
and now you know
what it feels like
894
00:28:11,433 --> 00:28:13,042
when the audience turns on you
and they don't know you,
895
00:28:13,066 --> 00:28:14,626
and they say rude things,
so let's not
896
00:28:14,667 --> 00:28:15,676
go down that path because I want
to stick by you...
897
00:28:15,700 --> 00:28:17,176
- But she has a different
perspective of it.
898
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:18,276
- I didn't even get to finish
what I was saying.
899
00:28:18,300 --> 00:28:19,443
- No, but my point is...
I know, but...
900
00:28:19,467 --> 00:28:21,009
- Let her... give her
space to talk.
901
00:28:21,033 --> 00:28:22,547
- I want to hear
what your point is.
902
00:28:22,571 --> 00:28:25,627
- When I watched it and she
said, "Do you feel better now?"
903
00:28:25,667 --> 00:28:27,710
- You're talking about the book?
904
00:28:27,734 --> 00:28:29,734
- Obviously, I think that
905
00:28:29,767 --> 00:28:31,576
you would associate that
with me when...
906
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:32,577
- Yeah, for sure.
907
00:28:32,601 --> 00:28:34,309
- Right? Yeah.
908
00:28:34,333 --> 00:28:36,603
- But nothing pejorative
or any of that.
909
00:28:36,633 --> 00:28:38,443
Not at all.
910
00:28:38,467 --> 00:28:40,067
- There is nothing.
911
00:28:40,100 --> 00:28:43,130
- Good. Do you feel better?
912
00:28:43,166 --> 00:28:44,576
[dramatic music]
913
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:46,270
- Uh, yeah.
914
00:28:46,300 --> 00:28:47,400
A little bit, yeah.
915
00:28:47,433 --> 00:28:50,309
I have history with Faye
in my mind...
916
00:28:50,333 --> 00:28:51,476
- Okay.
- And it's... and because of
917
00:28:51,500 --> 00:28:53,400
the things that I know
she wrote,
918
00:28:53,433 --> 00:28:54,576
it's a barrier for me.
- I understand.
919
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:56,070
- It seemed like you
chickened out.
920
00:28:56,100 --> 00:28:57,309
- It wasn't chickening out.
921
00:28:57,333 --> 00:28:59,273
It was me taking
the higher road,
922
00:28:59,300 --> 00:29:01,176
'cause I really
could've said a lot,
923
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:02,200
and I didn't.
924
00:29:02,233 --> 00:29:03,473
I can't not acknowledge
925
00:29:03,500 --> 00:29:05,070
what that is...
- Okay, well... okay.
926
00:29:05,100 --> 00:29:06,343
- Exactly.
- And what that was for me.
927
00:29:06,367 --> 00:29:09,209
You're asking me to discount
my feelings on it.
928
00:29:09,233 --> 00:29:10,443
- You think you've had
a hard time?
929
00:29:10,467 --> 00:29:11,497
You have no idea.
930
00:29:11,533 --> 00:29:12,503
- That's true, yeah.
931
00:29:12,533 --> 00:29:13,503
- You have no idea.
- Yeah.
932
00:29:13,533 --> 00:29:14,703
- I agree.
- Terrible.
933
00:29:14,734 --> 00:29:16,209
- No, I know.
- So please keep that in mind
934
00:29:16,233 --> 00:29:17,242
when you talk about someone.
- She's your friend,
935
00:29:17,266 --> 00:29:19,209
and she's protective
of her as well.
936
00:29:19,233 --> 00:29:20,242
- I understand that.
- Yeah.
937
00:29:20,266 --> 00:29:21,609
- I understand that,
but honestly...
938
00:29:21,633 --> 00:29:22,743
- I don't think you do.
- Don't cry.
939
00:29:22,767 --> 00:29:24,297
- No, I'm not crying. I'm not.
940
00:29:24,333 --> 00:29:25,710
I'm just saying you've had...
- I wish she'd...
941
00:29:25,734 --> 00:29:27,343
- A really hard time...
- Felt that strong about me.
942
00:29:27,367 --> 00:29:28,443
- You have no idea
what she's gone through.
943
00:29:28,467 --> 00:29:29,427
- You know what is amazing,
944
00:29:29,467 --> 00:29:31,597
is that I lived
a really hard time.
945
00:29:31,633 --> 00:29:33,103
- Yeah.
946
00:29:33,133 --> 00:29:34,673
- Not because I wrote a book.
947
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:37,476
- [stammers]
948
00:29:37,500 --> 00:29:38,600
It's not that.
949
00:29:38,633 --> 00:29:39,750
I'm talking about from the show
950
00:29:39,774 --> 00:29:41,209
and the people and the things...
951
00:29:41,233 --> 00:29:42,703
Mean things people say.
952
00:29:42,734 --> 00:29:45,074
- But you're discounting
my real life.
953
00:29:45,100 --> 00:29:47,200
- And your real life is what?
954
00:29:47,233 --> 00:29:49,433
- Is that I went through it,
955
00:29:49,467 --> 00:29:51,197
and some of the things
that she wrote,
956
00:29:51,233 --> 00:29:53,533
even pertaining
to my ex-husband,
957
00:29:53,567 --> 00:29:56,097
talking about his...
958
00:29:56,133 --> 00:29:57,633
It just... it... come on.
959
00:29:57,667 --> 00:29:59,376
- His what?
- [sighs]
960
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:00,645
I don't even know.
- I'm just saying.
961
00:30:00,669 --> 00:30:01,976
- But I mean, you just want
to keep going and...
962
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:03,270
- His dick?
- Yes, yes.
963
00:30:03,300 --> 00:30:05,009
- Why do you want to keep
talking about all that?
964
00:30:05,033 --> 00:30:06,650
Why don't we move on
from O.J. and all that?
965
00:30:06,674 --> 00:30:08,227
Can we really?
- Yes, no, we are.
966
00:30:08,266 --> 00:30:10,209
- But those are the things...
Like for me, it's gonna...
967
00:30:10,233 --> 00:30:11,273
When you see someone...
968
00:30:11,300 --> 00:30:14,070
The same way Rinna associates...
969
00:30:14,100 --> 00:30:16,509
When she said she saw me
and she thought, "Oh, O.J."
970
00:30:16,533 --> 00:30:19,733
Well, what do you think
I think when I see Faye?
971
00:30:19,767 --> 00:30:22,227
- Marcus and O.J.
were good friends?
972
00:30:22,266 --> 00:30:25,626
- Yes, at one point, but they
hadn't hung out for a long time.
973
00:30:25,667 --> 00:30:27,509
As long as I was around,
we did things
974
00:30:27,533 --> 00:30:29,103
here and there, but we did not
975
00:30:29,133 --> 00:30:31,147
spend large amounts of time
with them.
976
00:30:31,171 --> 00:30:32,766
- You were married
at O.J.'s house?
977
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,409
- Yes.
978
00:30:35,433 --> 00:30:37,103
- When he was with Nicole?
- No.
979
00:30:37,133 --> 00:30:39,276
He and Nicole were divorced,
980
00:30:39,300 --> 00:30:42,300
and, uh, I'm not sure if he was
981
00:30:42,333 --> 00:30:44,133
with Paula Barbieri or not,
982
00:30:44,166 --> 00:30:45,626
but he was dating someone else.
983
00:30:45,667 --> 00:30:48,227
- Kathryn, Sonya from
St. Cloud, Minnesota, says,
984
00:30:48,266 --> 00:30:49,396
"You're a big bully.
985
00:30:49,433 --> 00:30:51,633
"Even your husband says so.
986
00:30:51,667 --> 00:30:54,367
"Why do you think it's okay
to constantly comment
987
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,276
"on Lisa Rinna's eating habits?
988
00:30:56,300 --> 00:30:58,300
Why didn't you stop
when she asked you to?"
989
00:30:58,333 --> 00:30:59,710
- Why do you think
you did it with me?
990
00:30:59,734 --> 00:31:02,009
- Tuna tartare
on a wonton crisp.
991
00:31:02,033 --> 00:31:03,278
- Beautiful.
- Would you care for one?
992
00:31:03,302 --> 00:31:04,409
- She doesn't eat, though.
- I'm gonna wait...
993
00:31:04,433 --> 00:31:05,633
- Oh.
994
00:31:05,667 --> 00:31:07,409
- I'm a playful person.
995
00:31:07,433 --> 00:31:09,142
I'm not a bully by any means.
996
00:31:09,166 --> 00:31:11,009
- I think she was joking.
I mean, I thought she said it
997
00:31:11,033 --> 00:31:12,309
like a playful joke.
- Yeah, she was joking.
998
00:31:12,333 --> 00:31:13,743
I didn't think she realized
it was sensitive.
999
00:31:13,767 --> 00:31:15,176
- Like, "I heard you're supposed
to have two breads today."
1000
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:16,447
- It happened a few times.
- But Lisa told her
1001
00:31:16,471 --> 00:31:18,027
specifically not to do it again.
1002
00:31:18,066 --> 00:31:20,176
- I think maybe because
I feel safe with you?
1003
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:21,309
- Mm-hmm, yeah.
That's what I was thinking
1004
00:31:21,333 --> 00:31:22,310
that you... I don't know.
1005
00:31:22,334 --> 00:31:24,133
- Why are you so sensitive
to that?
1006
00:31:24,166 --> 00:31:25,710
- I just don't like things
1007
00:31:25,734 --> 00:31:27,304
being said about me
that aren't true.
1008
00:31:27,333 --> 00:31:29,073
- Lisa Rinna does not
exhibit the behavior
1009
00:31:29,100 --> 00:31:30,276
of someone that has
an eating disorder.
1010
00:31:30,300 --> 00:31:32,045
- Not at all.
- She has way too much energy.
1011
00:31:32,069 --> 00:31:33,269
- Thank you.
- She's not tired.
1012
00:31:33,300 --> 00:31:34,576
She's not missing
in the bathroom later.
1013
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:36,042
- Thank you.
1014
00:31:36,066 --> 00:31:38,309
- That is... she just has
a ballerina body.
1015
00:31:38,333 --> 00:31:39,443
I'm sorry.
1016
00:31:39,467 --> 00:31:40,576
- Kathryn, it was very moving
1017
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:42,400
to hear you talk about
1018
00:31:42,433 --> 00:31:44,673
losing your dad
when you were young.
1019
00:31:44,700 --> 00:31:46,400
How did that affect you?
1020
00:31:46,433 --> 00:31:47,443
- [sighs]
1021
00:31:47,467 --> 00:31:50,042
I lost my father to suicide
1022
00:31:50,066 --> 00:31:52,176
when I was... I was 13.
- Oh, I'm so sorry.
1023
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,200
That's hard.
1024
00:32:00,100 --> 00:32:02,000
- I know.
1025
00:32:05,233 --> 00:32:06,503
- [crying]
1026
00:32:06,533 --> 00:32:07,743
- Oh, sweetie.
1027
00:32:07,767 --> 00:32:10,697
Aww. - Do you have any Kleenex?
1028
00:32:10,734 --> 00:32:12,704
Come here.
1029
00:32:12,734 --> 00:32:14,374
- It's fine.
1030
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,347
I'm... I'm... I'm overly sensitive
1031
00:32:16,371 --> 00:32:19,997
to all this 'cause my nephew
died six weeks ago.
1032
00:32:22,367 --> 00:32:23,609
He died of a heroin overdose,
1033
00:32:23,633 --> 00:32:27,233
and so I'm so sensitive
to so much right now.
1034
00:32:27,266 --> 00:32:30,066
But to answer your question,
yes, my father's...
1035
00:32:30,100 --> 00:32:31,747
[exhales sharply]
My father's death
1036
00:32:31,771 --> 00:32:34,743
changed my family completely,
1037
00:32:34,767 --> 00:32:38,242
and we're closer,
and we're tighter for all of it.
1038
00:32:38,266 --> 00:32:40,066
It made us all fighters
for sure.
1039
00:32:40,100 --> 00:32:43,130
We went through rough...
Rough times.
1040
00:32:43,166 --> 00:32:44,976
- Coming up...
- That's not true.
1041
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:46,142
- But you didn't
stop it, either.
1042
00:32:46,166 --> 00:32:47,126
- No, we didn't.
1043
00:32:47,166 --> 00:32:48,643
- You didn't say right there,
1044
00:32:48,667 --> 00:32:51,197
"Lisa Rinna, that's bullsháá."
- We didn't stop it.
1045
00:32:57,033 --> 00:32:59,233
- I'm Andy Cohen... we're back
with the "Real Housewives
1046
00:32:59,266 --> 00:33:01,242
of Beverly Hills" reunion.
1047
00:33:01,266 --> 00:33:04,509
Yolanda shared the details
of her illness with the world,
1048
00:33:04,533 --> 00:33:08,273
but for some,
that only raised questions.
1049
00:33:08,300 --> 00:33:10,500
Then Lisa Rinna repeated
something she'd heard
1050
00:33:10,533 --> 00:33:14,273
from a friend, and from there,
things went downhill
1051
00:33:14,300 --> 00:33:18,270
faster than you can say,
"Munchausen smunchausen."
1052
00:33:18,300 --> 00:33:19,430
Watch.
1053
00:33:19,467 --> 00:33:21,997
- Good to see you up and about.
- Hi! Thank you.
1054
00:33:22,033 --> 00:33:24,279
- I'm actually really surprised
to see Yolanda.
1055
00:33:24,303 --> 00:33:25,670
She does not look good at all.
1056
00:33:25,700 --> 00:33:27,570
I'm not criticizing her.
1057
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:29,530
I'm just questioning it.
1058
00:33:29,567 --> 00:33:31,543
- Yolanda texted me.
- Oh, yeah?
1059
00:33:31,567 --> 00:33:33,367
- She said she had a fever.
- Fever?
1060
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:34,630
- Yes.
1061
00:33:34,667 --> 00:33:37,167
- On one side of my brain,
1062
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,700
I hope that Yolanda
gets healthy.
1063
00:33:39,734 --> 00:33:43,276
And the other side,
I go, "Well, what is it?
1064
00:33:43,300 --> 00:33:45,030
Is it Lyme? What is it?"
1065
00:33:45,066 --> 00:33:47,226
- One closet that's got
all her meds,
1066
00:33:47,266 --> 00:33:48,426
and that's quite impressive.
1067
00:33:48,467 --> 00:33:50,997
- Oh, my God.
1068
00:33:51,033 --> 00:33:52,303
Holy sháá.
1069
00:33:52,333 --> 00:33:54,433
This is way bigger than I can
even process right now.
1070
00:33:54,467 --> 00:33:58,027
- I mean, both Bella and Anwar,
you know, had Lyme disease.
1071
00:33:58,066 --> 00:33:59,526
- Wait. What?
1072
00:33:59,567 --> 00:34:01,327
Okay, I had not heard
this before.
1073
00:34:01,367 --> 00:34:03,276
What's going on with Anwar
and Bella's Lyme disease?
1074
00:34:03,300 --> 00:34:05,446
- I don't know.
If she says it's true,
1075
00:34:05,470 --> 00:34:08,176
then she knows...
- What does Mohamed say?
1076
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,030
- No.
1077
00:34:10,066 --> 00:34:11,396
- What the fááá are you doing?
1078
00:34:11,433 --> 00:34:14,033
- I've never heard in all
the years I've known them,
1079
00:34:14,066 --> 00:34:17,042
ever, them or anybody else
mention Lyme disease.
1080
00:34:17,066 --> 00:34:19,466
- If you're really curious,
and you want to understand it,
1081
00:34:19,500 --> 00:34:21,730
I brought you their tests,
and I want you
1082
00:34:21,767 --> 00:34:24,027
to take it home and read it.
1083
00:34:24,066 --> 00:34:26,296
- Oh, my God.
1084
00:34:26,333 --> 00:34:28,473
- Munchausen is...
1085
00:34:28,500 --> 00:34:32,042
And I want to cry to even say
this out loud,
1086
00:34:32,066 --> 00:34:34,576
but it's something
that people could create
1087
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,430
if they... might not be sick.
1088
00:34:37,467 --> 00:34:39,309
They make themselves sick.
1089
00:34:39,333 --> 00:34:41,733
- That's a serious word.
1090
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:45,300
- Talking about my illness
behind my back is despicable.
1091
00:34:45,333 --> 00:34:50,233
It's really a... a doubt
to my integrity as a woman.
1092
00:34:50,266 --> 00:34:52,196
It's an insult.
1093
00:34:52,233 --> 00:34:54,073
- As much as I want
to love Yolanda
1094
00:34:54,100 --> 00:34:57,030
and be her best friend,
my gut says,
1095
00:34:57,066 --> 00:34:59,026
"Run for the fáááing hills,
lady."
1096
00:34:59,066 --> 00:35:01,366
She scares the sháá out of me
'cause I think
1097
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,370
she's more manipulative
than anybody.
1098
00:35:05,633 --> 00:35:06,750
- Lots to discuss.
1099
00:35:06,774 --> 00:35:09,609
I want to just kind of
go through this.
1100
00:35:09,633 --> 00:35:13,609
You've had, um, trouble
with Yolanda's Instagram posts.
1101
00:35:13,633 --> 00:35:15,703
Why? - Um, I guess because
1102
00:35:15,734 --> 00:35:18,034
they weren't inspiring to me,
and I wasn't...
1103
00:35:18,066 --> 00:35:20,343
I just was confused by 'em.
We've all been confused.
1104
00:35:20,367 --> 00:35:22,427
- Yeah, there were a lot
of sick kind of selfies.
1105
00:35:22,467 --> 00:35:24,244
- You're confused about why
she's posting them?
1106
00:35:24,268 --> 00:35:25,509
- Yeah.
- Or you're confused,
1107
00:35:25,533 --> 00:35:27,233
doubting what she's
going through
1108
00:35:27,266 --> 00:35:29,242
because sometimes she's well
and sometimes she's sick?
1109
00:35:29,266 --> 00:35:32,643
- Yes, the... the... the...
The way it ebbs and flows
1110
00:35:32,667 --> 00:35:35,367
is obviously confusing, and also
1111
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:39,230
because she's shared today...
She said she had depression.
1112
00:35:39,266 --> 00:35:41,626
So I'm thinking,
"I know she's got Lyme,"
1113
00:35:41,667 --> 00:35:45,597
but I thought maybe
she had depression and maybe,
1114
00:35:45,633 --> 00:35:47,509
you know,
hormonal things as well.
1115
00:35:47,533 --> 00:35:49,603
- And also what Lisa said
on the beach.
1116
00:35:49,633 --> 00:35:51,503
You were dragging me
into the Munchausen thing,
1117
00:35:51,533 --> 00:35:53,109
and I don't know how
I got dragged into that.
1118
00:35:53,133 --> 00:35:54,543
- Well, I didn't mean to drag
you into the Munchausen thing.
1119
00:35:54,567 --> 00:35:56,244
- Okay, 'cause I was like,
"How am I gonna explain to her
1120
00:35:56,268 --> 00:35:57,396
that that's not true?"
1121
00:35:57,433 --> 00:35:59,103
- But you didn't stop it,
either.
1122
00:35:59,133 --> 00:36:00,509
- No, we didn't stop it.
- You didn't say...
1123
00:36:00,533 --> 00:36:02,373
- No, I didn't.
- You didn't say right there,
1124
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,230
"Lisa Rinna, that's bullsháá."
- We didn't stop it.
1125
00:36:05,266 --> 00:36:08,396
- Everybody thought that all
of us questioned if she had
1126
00:36:08,433 --> 00:36:10,103
Lyme disease or not.
- We didn't.
1127
00:36:10,133 --> 00:36:11,533
- Which... never, ever.
1128
00:36:11,567 --> 00:36:13,409
We never questioned whether she
had Lyme disease or not.
1129
00:36:13,433 --> 00:36:15,533
We were wondering also
what was contributing to it.
1130
00:36:15,567 --> 00:36:17,009
- Yes.
- A multitude of facts.
1131
00:36:17,033 --> 00:36:18,409
- So that's something
that needs to be clarified...
1132
00:36:18,433 --> 00:36:19,773
- 'Cause we don't understand
Lyme.
1133
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:21,276
- You know, when a friend...
- No.
1134
00:36:21,300 --> 00:36:22,576
- When a friend gets sick,
you ask questions.
1135
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:24,142
- We did.
- You know, I... trust me.
1136
00:36:24,166 --> 00:36:26,176
This is my full-time job.
- I know. I understand that.
1137
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,270
- You know, don't think that I...
We didn't cover menopause.
1138
00:36:29,300 --> 00:36:31,300
We did cover depression. - Yeah.
1139
00:36:31,333 --> 00:36:34,276
- We did cover...
We covered it all.
1140
00:36:34,300 --> 00:36:36,676
- Alisa from Grand Rapids,
Michigan, said,
1141
00:36:36,700 --> 00:36:39,276
"I can see why
everybody questions Yolanda
1142
00:36:39,300 --> 00:36:41,145
"because she can't keep
her stories straight.
1143
00:36:41,169 --> 00:36:43,996
"She told Erika she hadn't been
for a walk in ten months,
1144
00:36:44,033 --> 00:36:45,710
"but that's not true.
She was walking in the park
1145
00:36:45,734 --> 00:36:49,304
with Erika and Kyle
just a few episodes before."
1146
00:36:49,333 --> 00:36:50,710
- I'm so happy to see you up
and out like this.
1147
00:36:50,734 --> 00:36:52,134
It's like a miracle. - I know.
1148
00:36:52,166 --> 00:36:53,309
- ♪ We're walking through
the park ♪
1149
00:36:53,333 --> 00:36:54,447
- We can't go that far.
1150
00:36:54,471 --> 00:36:56,297
The walk in the park,
we walked from... what?
1151
00:36:56,333 --> 00:36:58,203
From here to the bench is not...
1152
00:36:58,233 --> 00:36:59,710
- It wasn't a walk... right.
- An exercise walk.
1153
00:36:59,734 --> 00:37:01,576
I used to work out
six days a week.
1154
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:03,000
- Right.
- I mean, when I talk about
1155
00:37:03,033 --> 00:37:04,309
"walk," I'm talking four
or five miles.
1156
00:37:04,333 --> 00:37:05,303
- Exactly.
- Right.
1157
00:37:05,333 --> 00:37:06,433
- That's my walk.
- Exactly.
1158
00:37:06,467 --> 00:37:07,743
- No, but when you say,
"Ebbs and flows,"
1159
00:37:07,767 --> 00:37:09,576
that's what's confusing,
because when you would say,
1160
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:10,743
"Oh, I haven't done this,"
and I said,
1161
00:37:10,767 --> 00:37:12,309
"But we were running around
Beverly Hills.
1162
00:37:12,333 --> 00:37:13,433
I couldn't even catch you."
1163
00:37:13,467 --> 00:37:15,167
- Come on, let's go!
- Yolanda?
1164
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:16,710
Have you had any better ideas
lately?
1165
00:37:16,734 --> 00:37:19,004
- [laughs] Isn't it fun?
1166
00:37:19,033 --> 00:37:21,309
If you only knew
what it took for me
1167
00:37:21,333 --> 00:37:23,176
to do this with you guys...
1168
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:24,600
- I think people see you
1169
00:37:24,633 --> 00:37:26,573
diving off the boat with Kyle.
- Yeah.
1170
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:28,330
- Oh, motherááááer.
1171
00:37:28,367 --> 00:37:31,209
And three... go! Motherááááer!
1172
00:37:31,233 --> 00:37:32,703
[cheers and applause]
1173
00:37:32,734 --> 00:37:34,474
- So that's what's confusing
to them.
1174
00:37:34,500 --> 00:37:35,745
- Yeah, but I mean...
- She was too sick this year.
1175
00:37:35,769 --> 00:37:37,643
- Like this year, I said,
"I can't do it anymore."
1176
00:37:37,667 --> 00:37:39,609
- That's the confusion.
- And, you know, I said,
1177
00:37:39,633 --> 00:37:41,079
"I can't even get out of bed."
1178
00:37:41,103 --> 00:37:43,600
- Rinna, you told Eileen
that you thought Yolanda
1179
00:37:43,633 --> 00:37:46,743
uses being sick
to her advantage.
1180
00:37:46,767 --> 00:37:49,076
Do you still believe that?
- Well, in that moment, I did.
1181
00:37:49,100 --> 00:37:51,209
- How did I benefit in any way?
1182
00:37:51,233 --> 00:37:54,476
- You know, just you...
I felt at the time
1183
00:37:54,500 --> 00:37:56,609
it was more... it was convenient,
and I was wrapped up in it.
1184
00:37:56,633 --> 00:37:57,773
- No, it wasn't. Trust me.
1185
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,076
I am... I am a workhorse.
1186
00:38:00,100 --> 00:38:03,300
- Yolanda, Nora from Salem,
Massachusetts, wants to know,
1187
00:38:03,333 --> 00:38:05,633
"Your so-called friends
spent a lot of time
1188
00:38:05,667 --> 00:38:07,476
"questioning your illness
this season.
1189
00:38:07,500 --> 00:38:09,470
"After doubting you so much,
1190
00:38:09,500 --> 00:38:12,730
how do you feel about
your friendships today?"
1191
00:38:12,767 --> 00:38:16,127
- You know, I am cautious.
1192
00:38:16,166 --> 00:38:17,466
- I think that whatever
we can do
1193
00:38:17,500 --> 00:38:20,200
to help you and...
And help you to open up
1194
00:38:20,233 --> 00:38:21,647
and be transparent with us...
1195
00:38:21,671 --> 00:38:23,627
- I think you have to be able
to trust first.
1196
00:38:23,667 --> 00:38:25,109
- Well, I know. I know.
- You know, I mean,
1197
00:38:25,133 --> 00:38:26,643
at this point, you know...
- I know.
1198
00:38:26,667 --> 00:38:28,067
- You can't just, like...
- Right.
1199
00:38:28,100 --> 00:38:29,376
- Flip a switch.
- Pull the switch
1200
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:30,645
and just, like, forget about it.
- And I understand that.
1201
00:38:30,669 --> 00:38:32,476
- You're best friends.
- But I think we really all
1202
00:38:32,500 --> 00:38:34,370
do want that.
- But why didn't you?
1203
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:37,109
- Do you feel like she should
trust you at this point?
1204
00:38:37,133 --> 00:38:38,733
- Well, no.
I would... I don't blame her
1205
00:38:38,767 --> 00:38:40,667
that she doesn't. I don't.
1206
00:38:40,700 --> 00:38:42,500
But I also...
- I just feel like, Lisa,
1207
00:38:42,533 --> 00:38:45,003
you know, you had no basis
to come out in the world...
1208
00:38:45,033 --> 00:38:46,376
- It was just an observation
and a question.
1209
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:48,109
- And make
such strong opinions...
1210
00:38:48,133 --> 00:38:50,373
- I agree.
- About the, you know,
1211
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,409
the integrity and honesty
of me as a human being.
1212
00:38:53,433 --> 00:38:57,003
And so it's gonna be hard.
1213
00:38:57,033 --> 00:38:59,433
This whole season it's like...
It's scary.
1214
00:38:59,467 --> 00:39:02,767
[dramatic music]
1215
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:04,570
- Coming up...
1216
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:06,400
- You encouraged me.
- Oh, Lisa, you got...
1217
00:39:06,433 --> 00:39:07,676
- Are you okay?
- And guess what.
1218
00:39:07,700 --> 00:39:10,009
I did it. - Is she okay?
1219
00:39:10,033 --> 00:39:11,133
- So you did it for me?
1220
00:39:15,033 --> 00:39:16,033
[dramatic music]
1221
00:39:17,533 --> 00:39:19,547
- Can I ask you one question?
- Absolutely.
1222
00:39:19,571 --> 00:39:22,567
- I mean, what were your basis
of being so outspoken...
1223
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:24,009
- Well, I think I... okay.
- And so judgmental?
1224
00:39:24,033 --> 00:39:27,142
- Let's go right
to the Munchausen conversation.
1225
00:39:27,166 --> 00:39:29,409
Faye, who's my dear hairdresser
friend who's here today...
1226
00:39:29,433 --> 00:39:31,273
- A different Faye.
- Not Faye Resnick.
1227
00:39:31,300 --> 00:39:33,547
A different Faye.
We were having a conversation.
1228
00:39:33,571 --> 00:39:37,042
She happens to have a friend
who has Munchausen,
1229
00:39:37,066 --> 00:39:41,066
and she thought maybe Yolanda...
That could be something.
1230
00:39:41,100 --> 00:39:44,670
- How do you fake
medical records?
1231
00:39:44,700 --> 00:39:46,200
Blood tests? - Well... well, not...
1232
00:39:46,233 --> 00:39:47,433
Well, we didn't go that deep.
1233
00:39:47,467 --> 00:39:49,997
- You know me a little bit
as a person.
1234
00:39:50,033 --> 00:39:52,042
- I do, but this
was not malicious.
1235
00:39:52,066 --> 00:39:54,142
You have to know this.
This was just a conversation...
1236
00:39:54,166 --> 00:39:56,426
- But to repeat this
in front of the whole world.
1237
00:39:56,467 --> 00:39:58,476
- Okay, I'm gonna... I'm gonna say
exactly why, Yolanda.
1238
00:39:58,500 --> 00:40:01,042
I'm gonna be really,
really honest.
1239
00:40:01,066 --> 00:40:03,309
We were at my birthday party,
and I never wanted
1240
00:40:03,333 --> 00:40:05,003
to bring any of this up.
1241
00:40:05,033 --> 00:40:07,303
I really did,
but I will tell you,
1242
00:40:07,333 --> 00:40:09,450
going into this,
I was not gonna talk about it.
1243
00:40:09,474 --> 00:40:11,443
I was not gonna go there.
1244
00:40:11,467 --> 00:40:13,327
We were at my birthday,
and you came,
1245
00:40:13,367 --> 00:40:15,197
which was fantastic.
1246
00:40:15,233 --> 00:40:17,373
I was thrilled to see you.
You came with no makeup.
1247
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:19,076
You left.
1248
00:40:19,100 --> 00:40:21,346
Um, Ken had said you looked
terrible, and Harry said,
1249
00:40:21,370 --> 00:40:23,227
"You know what? That's not okay.
1250
00:40:23,266 --> 00:40:25,596
This woman is sick
and we need to stand by her."
1251
00:40:25,633 --> 00:40:27,747
- Ken didn't say, "You
look terrible," to her face.
1252
00:40:27,771 --> 00:40:29,209
He was observing...
- Can I finish?
1253
00:40:29,233 --> 00:40:30,609
- That you didn't look good.
- Can I finish, please?
1254
00:40:30,633 --> 00:40:32,042
- You didn't look healthy.
- I'm gonna finish this.
1255
00:40:32,066 --> 00:40:34,343
This is gonna be said.
Harry said, "You know what?
1256
00:40:34,367 --> 00:40:36,627
"We need to support this woman
whether she's sick or not,
1257
00:40:36,667 --> 00:40:38,597
and that's that," and you went,
1258
00:40:38,633 --> 00:40:40,733
"There goes
our fáááing story line."
1259
00:40:40,767 --> 00:40:43,067
- No, I did not say that.
- Yes, you did.
1260
00:40:43,100 --> 00:40:44,476
- Well, the cameras were there
all night.
1261
00:40:44,500 --> 00:40:47,200
- You said, "There goes
our fáááing story line."
1262
00:40:47,233 --> 00:40:48,773
- At Il Cielo?
- Yeah.
1263
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:52,230
- Il Cielo, we were sitting
there at your birthday?
1264
00:40:52,266 --> 00:40:53,476
- You said...
- No!
1265
00:40:53,500 --> 00:40:54,509
- "There goes
our fáááing story line."
1266
00:40:54,533 --> 00:40:55,609
- Cameras hear that, Rinna?
- Yes.
1267
00:40:55,633 --> 00:40:57,233
- Are you kidding me?
- I'm sorry
1268
00:40:57,266 --> 00:40:59,226
I said it, Yolanda.
- Oh, my God.
1269
00:40:59,266 --> 00:41:01,196
- I'm sorry that I brought it
into this.
1270
00:41:01,233 --> 00:41:02,509
- I wouldn't say...
- But wait. I'm not done.
1271
00:41:02,533 --> 00:41:04,142
- "There goes our story line."
- I'm not done.
1272
00:41:04,166 --> 00:41:05,242
I'm not done.
I got a phone call from you.
1273
00:41:05,266 --> 00:41:07,242
You encouraged me
to say Munchausen.
1274
00:41:07,266 --> 00:41:08,509
- No way. No...
- You called me.
1275
00:41:08,533 --> 00:41:10,376
Okay, I'm getting this out.
- No, hold on a second.
1276
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:11,543
- No! I'm getting...
- Hold on a second.
1277
00:41:11,567 --> 00:41:12,997
When you... - No!
1278
00:41:13,033 --> 00:41:15,103
- [sighs] Say it.
- I'm getting this out.
1279
00:41:15,133 --> 00:41:16,647
- Yeah.
- You called me at home,
1280
00:41:16,671 --> 00:41:18,643
and you...
- I very rarely have ever
1281
00:41:18,667 --> 00:41:20,509
called you at home,
but go ahead.
1282
00:41:20,533 --> 00:41:22,333
Yeah, go ahead.
- Okay, let's pull 'em out.
1283
00:41:22,367 --> 00:41:23,643
- I called you four
or five times.
1284
00:41:23,667 --> 00:41:24,743
- What do you have?
- I have her phone records.
1285
00:41:24,767 --> 00:41:26,097
- Oh, wow.
- Oh, God.
1286
00:41:26,133 --> 00:41:27,380
- You called me.
Are you kidding me?
1287
00:41:27,404 --> 00:41:28,976
I'm sorry.
- Oh, God. Come on, Lisa.
1288
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:30,509
- You told me you never call.
I'm so sorry.
1289
00:41:30,533 --> 00:41:32,009
Yes, you do.
- Well, yeah... oh, my God.
1290
00:41:32,033 --> 00:41:33,250
- Ten phone calls.
- I've called you...
1291
00:41:33,274 --> 00:41:34,496
- Ten fáááing phone calls!
1292
00:41:34,533 --> 00:41:35,733
- So what?
- Yeah.
1293
00:41:35,767 --> 00:41:37,509
- We've called each other like...
- I'm sorry.
1294
00:41:37,533 --> 00:41:39,409
You said that I have
never called you.
1295
00:41:39,433 --> 00:41:40,509
- [groans]
- Yeah, I looked through.
1296
00:41:40,533 --> 00:41:42,003
- Oh, my God.
- I'm sorry.
1297
00:41:42,033 --> 00:41:43,173
Are you kidding me? - Wow.
1298
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:44,643
- And you encouraged me
to say this...
1299
00:41:44,667 --> 00:41:46,142
- No way. Why?
- Because you said...
1300
00:41:46,166 --> 00:41:47,676
- I would say...
When you brought it up,
1301
00:41:47,700 --> 00:41:50,030
I said to you...
- I don't think we should...
1302
00:41:50,066 --> 00:41:51,409
- Sorry. You encouraged me.
- Be talking about this.
1303
00:41:51,433 --> 00:41:52,976
- Oh, Lisa, you've got...
- Are you okay?
1304
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:54,545
- And guess what. I did it.
- Is she okay?
1305
00:41:54,569 --> 00:41:56,497
- Oh, so you did it for me?
- I did it. I did it.
1306
00:41:56,533 --> 00:41:57,633
- Oh, come on.
- I did it.
1307
00:41:57,667 --> 00:42:01,142
- Come on.
- I did it, and I'm sorry.
1308
00:42:01,166 --> 00:42:02,396
I did it.
1309
00:42:02,433 --> 00:42:10,403
♪ ♪
1310
00:42:12,700 --> 00:42:15,430
- Next week,
the reunion continues.
1311
00:42:15,467 --> 00:42:17,543
- You talk around and round,
and it just makes me
1312
00:42:17,567 --> 00:42:19,409
so fáááing crazy,
I got to walk away for a second.
1313
00:42:19,433 --> 00:42:22,133
- Just when did we get
so fáááing hurtful?
1314
00:42:22,166 --> 00:42:24,126
- Yolanda, who do you believe?
1315
00:42:24,166 --> 00:42:26,726
♪ ♪
1316
00:42:26,767 --> 00:42:28,467
You called Erika a pussy.
1317
00:42:28,500 --> 00:42:29,730
- And a liar.
1318
00:42:29,767 --> 00:42:31,067
[laughter]
1319
00:42:31,100 --> 00:42:33,443
- Who looked
the most like a hooker?
1320
00:42:33,467 --> 00:42:35,567
- I'm out because I look like
a hooker all the time.
1321
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:36,700
[laughter]
1322
00:42:36,734 --> 00:42:38,710
- Your shoplifting arrest...
1323
00:42:38,734 --> 00:42:40,474
Was that the low point?
1324
00:42:40,500 --> 00:42:43,176
- I took the first drink
was my low point.
1325
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:45,470
- Do you feel like
you were hard to love?
1326
00:42:45,500 --> 00:42:47,300
- Yeah, I think...
- That's not true.
1327
00:42:47,333 --> 00:42:49,580
Even if I didn't like you
at times, I always loved you.
1328
00:42:49,604 --> 00:42:51,330
- It's not your business!
1329
00:42:51,367 --> 00:42:54,042
- I'm sorry that you find me
manipulative.
1330
00:42:54,066 --> 00:42:55,476
- You're completely missing
the point.
1331
00:42:55,500 --> 00:42:57,309
I don't trust you.
1332
00:42:57,333 --> 00:42:59,033
- [voice breaking]
Sorry. Hold on.
1333
00:42:59,066 --> 00:43:00,043
No, I don't want to cry.
1334
00:43:00,067 --> 00:43:02,466
♪ ♪
1335
00:43:02,500 --> 00:43:04,030
- To learn more about
the housewives,
1336
00:43:04,066 --> 00:43:05,766
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