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We are live in Pembrokeshire, 3 00:00:05,443 --> 00:00:08,123 where there have been dramatic developments 4 00:00:08,162 --> 00:00:10,042 involving two of Wales' most baffling crimes. 5 00:00:10,083 --> 00:00:12,643 Decades on, these two double murders are being reinvestigated. 6 00:00:13,963 --> 00:00:15,682 Detective Superintendent Steve Wilkins 7 00:00:15,722 --> 00:00:18,682 is the man leading this reinvestigation. 8 00:00:18,722 --> 00:00:22,522 Developments in DNA analysis have revolutionised 9 00:00:22,562 --> 00:00:24,323 cold case reviews. 10 00:00:24,363 --> 00:00:27,202 As a team, we have brought these processes to bear on these 11 00:00:27,242 --> 00:00:29,962 two investigations, and they have had a significant impact. 12 00:00:30,003 --> 00:00:33,242 And do you think it's the same local man responsible 13 00:00:33,282 --> 00:00:35,443 for all four murders? - I do believe that, Jonathan. 14 00:00:35,483 --> 00:00:38,242 Thanks to the advances in DNA forensic science, 15 00:00:38,282 --> 00:00:39,882 we are now in a much stronger position 16 00:00:39,922 --> 00:00:42,803 to catch the person responsible. 17 00:00:45,123 --> 00:00:46,803 - Happy? - That went quick. 18 00:00:46,842 --> 00:00:49,282 - Not so bad, was it? - No. Thank you. 19 00:00:49,323 --> 00:00:52,882 TRAIN RATTLES IN DISTANCE 20 00:00:59,002 --> 00:01:01,123 SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC 21 00:01:07,403 --> 00:01:08,523 HE GASPS 22 00:01:25,483 --> 00:01:29,763 SHOUTING IN DISTANCE 23 00:01:42,922 --> 00:01:45,722 STEVE: Prisoner Intelligence say that Cooper's new favourite place 24 00:01:45,763 --> 00:01:47,002 is the library. 25 00:01:47,043 --> 00:01:48,842 His specialist subject - DNA. 26 00:01:50,002 --> 00:01:51,202 The news item worked. 27 00:01:51,243 --> 00:01:53,642 He's worried we've found something. PHONE RINGS 28 00:01:53,683 --> 00:01:56,202 Oh, a date for the diary. 29 00:01:56,243 --> 00:01:59,082 Dyffryn Prison's governor has given us our dates for the interviews. 30 00:01:59,122 --> 00:02:00,723 A month from now. 31 00:02:00,763 --> 00:02:03,802 Monday, June 30th to Wednesday, July 2nd. 32 00:02:03,843 --> 00:02:06,362 We've got three days to get inside his head, 33 00:02:06,402 --> 00:02:09,522 find out the exhibits that give him night sweats. 34 00:02:09,563 --> 00:02:12,642 Rambo, we should find out if there are any psychologists out there 35 00:02:12,682 --> 00:02:14,843 who have interviewed him. We want their insights. 36 00:02:14,883 --> 00:02:16,122 Right you are. 37 00:02:16,163 --> 00:02:19,082 Boss, that was Pembroke Dock Police Station. 38 00:02:19,122 --> 00:02:20,563 Andrew Cooper was found collapsed 39 00:02:20,603 --> 00:02:23,362 by the railway tracks last night outside Fishguard. 40 00:02:23,402 --> 00:02:24,922 He was taken to Withybush Hospital. 41 00:02:24,962 --> 00:02:27,283 He claimed he overdid it on his pain medication. 42 00:02:27,323 --> 00:02:28,443 By the railway tracks? 43 00:02:28,483 --> 00:02:32,242 Apparently, he's adamant he wasn't trying to kill himself. 44 00:02:32,283 --> 00:02:34,443 He checked out of the hospital this morning. 45 00:02:34,483 --> 00:02:35,723 HE SIGHS 46 00:02:38,323 --> 00:02:39,843 JOHN COOPER: Tried to kill himself? 47 00:02:39,883 --> 00:02:42,043 Didn't try very hard, did he? He's still breathing. 48 00:02:42,082 --> 00:02:43,122 John... 49 00:02:43,163 --> 00:02:44,682 Anyway, guess what? 50 00:02:46,082 --> 00:02:48,202 The police want to interview me. 51 00:02:48,242 --> 00:02:50,922 That stuff on the news. I'm their bloody suspect. 52 00:02:52,723 --> 00:02:55,563 - Why you? - Well, it's the same as before, hm? 53 00:02:55,603 --> 00:02:57,763 Cos it's easier to frame an innocent man 54 00:02:57,802 --> 00:02:59,802 than it is for them to do their job. 55 00:02:59,843 --> 00:03:02,563 Now, you'd better be on your toes. They might wanna talk to you. 56 00:03:02,603 --> 00:03:03,962 Talk to me? 57 00:03:05,323 --> 00:03:07,483 What about? I don't know anything. 58 00:03:07,522 --> 00:03:09,843 When they come knocking, that's exactly what you tell them. 59 00:03:09,883 --> 00:03:14,082 And don't go running off to Adrian cos you feel sorry him. He's a rat. 60 00:03:14,122 --> 00:03:17,122 And anything you say to him will go directly back to the police. 61 00:03:19,402 --> 00:03:21,522 ENTRY SYSTEM BUZZES 62 00:03:21,563 --> 00:03:23,723 BUZZING CONTINUES 63 00:03:23,763 --> 00:03:25,122 I'm coming! 64 00:03:25,163 --> 00:03:27,043 HE GASPS FOR BREATH 65 00:03:29,242 --> 00:03:30,603 Hello, Andrew. 66 00:03:31,642 --> 00:03:32,763 Hello. 67 00:03:33,802 --> 00:03:36,522 Sorry to bother you. I heard you'd been in hospital. 68 00:03:36,563 --> 00:03:38,443 How are you doing? 69 00:03:38,483 --> 00:03:39,603 I'm fine. 70 00:03:43,242 --> 00:03:44,482 Well, I just wanted you to know 71 00:03:44,483 --> 00:03:46,962 that if you feel like you need some support, 72 00:03:47,003 --> 00:03:48,723 we can sort something for you. 73 00:03:50,242 --> 00:03:51,883 I don't need anything like that. 74 00:03:53,682 --> 00:03:55,242 You don't have to worry about me. 75 00:04:12,523 --> 00:04:14,043 LYNNE: Dr Harry Stephens... 76 00:04:14,083 --> 00:04:17,283 ...is a forensic psychologist from Liverpool University. 77 00:04:17,322 --> 00:04:21,682 Now, he interviewed Cooper for a book about violent offenders. 78 00:04:21,723 --> 00:04:24,442 He's the only person to have gone on record 79 00:04:24,483 --> 00:04:26,643 as saying that Cooper is a psychopath. 80 00:04:26,682 --> 00:04:28,523 He also told us that, 81 00:04:28,562 --> 00:04:31,083 like most psychopaths, Cooper is a narcissist 82 00:04:31,122 --> 00:04:34,242 and we should treat him accordingly. 83 00:04:34,283 --> 00:04:36,122 Like royalty. 84 00:04:36,163 --> 00:04:39,682 Er, pamper him into a false sense of security. 85 00:04:39,723 --> 00:04:43,762 Nige, we need you to find a suitable station for the interviews. 86 00:04:43,802 --> 00:04:46,523 Sterile, clean, quiet holding cells. 87 00:04:46,562 --> 00:04:48,723 And make sure the custody sergeant is very charming. 88 00:04:48,762 --> 00:04:49,723 Yes, boss. 89 00:04:49,762 --> 00:04:53,242 Dr Stephens also recommended that one of the interview team 90 00:04:53,283 --> 00:04:54,322 be a woman. 91 00:04:54,362 --> 00:04:57,682 Yeah, apparently, Cooper has a very low opinion of female intelligence. 92 00:04:57,723 --> 00:05:02,762 And a woman opposite him might make him drop his guard. 93 00:05:02,802 --> 00:05:05,122 - Are you up for that, missus? - Let me at him. 94 00:05:05,163 --> 00:05:07,762 That's settled, then. You and Rambo in the room. 95 00:05:07,802 --> 00:05:10,802 - What about you, boss? - I don't think it's clever. 96 00:05:10,843 --> 00:05:13,843 We know he's seen me on TV. I'm the face of the investigation. 97 00:05:13,882 --> 00:05:16,002 That could rattle him. 98 00:05:16,043 --> 00:05:19,603 No, I shall sit in the cheap seats with you lot on video link. 99 00:05:19,643 --> 00:05:22,603 Hey, here's to our interview team, then. 100 00:05:22,643 --> 00:05:25,083 Rambo and Bimbo. 101 00:05:25,122 --> 00:05:26,922 Oh...! 102 00:05:28,562 --> 00:05:29,963 I'll ask you again, John. 103 00:05:30,002 --> 00:05:32,603 Regarding the murders of Peter and Gwenda Dixon, 104 00:05:32,643 --> 00:05:34,762 were you the person responsible? 105 00:05:36,643 --> 00:05:38,283 STEVE: He starts off cooperative. 106 00:05:38,322 --> 00:05:40,322 Then, when your man gets heavy-handed, 107 00:05:40,362 --> 00:05:41,882 down comes the portcullis. 108 00:05:41,922 --> 00:05:44,322 So, we keep it non-confrontational. 109 00:05:44,362 --> 00:05:48,562 Er, maybe even avoid any direct questions about the murders. 110 00:05:48,603 --> 00:05:50,043 If we can't talk about the murders, 111 00:05:50,083 --> 00:05:52,242 how are we supposed to get anything useful out of him? 112 00:05:52,283 --> 00:05:54,403 You talk about the exhibits. 113 00:05:54,442 --> 00:05:56,122 That's what this is all about, 114 00:05:56,163 --> 00:05:59,242 trying to draw out which ones he's worried about, 115 00:05:59,283 --> 00:06:02,643 which ones he thinks might bear a trace of his or his victims' DNA. 116 00:06:09,762 --> 00:06:11,242 Jack? 117 00:06:21,762 --> 00:06:23,242 Someone's keen. 118 00:06:24,483 --> 00:06:25,922 I've got a trial for the county. 119 00:06:26,963 --> 00:06:28,643 No way! 120 00:06:28,682 --> 00:06:30,362 Ah, that's great. 121 00:06:30,403 --> 00:06:32,362 Well done, Wilkins Junior! 122 00:06:32,403 --> 00:06:34,083 Do you think you can come along? 123 00:06:37,362 --> 00:06:38,802 - No, it's OK. - No, no, no. 124 00:06:38,843 --> 00:06:40,603 Bollocks. I'll be there. 125 00:06:41,643 --> 00:06:42,762 Well done, son! 126 00:06:43,802 --> 00:06:45,523 - Food? - Aye. 127 00:06:48,643 --> 00:06:50,882 CROCKERY RATTLES 128 00:06:50,922 --> 00:06:53,043 PLATES CLATTER 129 00:07:19,562 --> 00:07:20,562 All right? 130 00:07:21,723 --> 00:07:22,723 Yeah. 131 00:07:25,242 --> 00:07:27,362 I'll see you in sunny Ammanford. 132 00:07:27,403 --> 00:07:29,083 PHONE RINGS Steve Wilkins. 133 00:07:29,122 --> 00:07:31,242 Hello, boss, this is Control. 134 00:07:31,283 --> 00:07:35,643 Cooper has left Dyffryn Prison. ETA Ammanford 09:00. 135 00:07:35,682 --> 00:07:37,643 They're all set up for you. 136 00:08:00,442 --> 00:08:02,203 I found the kitchen, boss. 137 00:08:02,242 --> 00:08:03,523 Thanks. 138 00:08:05,802 --> 00:08:07,322 PHONE RINGS 139 00:08:08,322 --> 00:08:09,603 Yep? 140 00:08:10,643 --> 00:08:12,322 He's here. 141 00:08:19,362 --> 00:08:21,163 Good morning, John. 142 00:08:21,203 --> 00:08:22,762 I hope you had a comfortable journey. 143 00:08:22,803 --> 00:08:24,402 Oh, yes. 144 00:08:24,443 --> 00:08:25,843 Business class. 145 00:08:27,162 --> 00:08:29,323 See, it doesn't cost anything to be polite. 146 00:08:33,963 --> 00:08:35,563 He takes the bait. 147 00:08:35,603 --> 00:08:37,002 He's old. 148 00:08:42,603 --> 00:08:44,402 He still looks strong, though. 149 00:08:51,683 --> 00:08:52,923 All right, boss. 150 00:08:55,162 --> 00:08:56,282 Morning. 151 00:08:56,323 --> 00:08:57,563 Good morning, John. 152 00:08:58,843 --> 00:09:01,323 Where's the big cheese, then, the one off the telly? 153 00:09:01,362 --> 00:09:04,563 Detective Superintendent Wilkins won't be joining us, John. 154 00:09:06,978 --> 00:09:08,659 Oh, he likes to watch, does he? 155 00:09:10,819 --> 00:09:11,978 OK, John... 156 00:09:12,019 --> 00:09:13,618 ...1978. 157 00:09:13,659 --> 00:09:17,098 The year you won Spot The Ball. 158 00:09:17,139 --> 00:09:18,899 £94,000 159 00:09:18,939 --> 00:09:21,819 That's about £800,000 in today's money. 160 00:09:21,858 --> 00:09:23,419 Your life was good at the time. 161 00:09:23,458 --> 00:09:26,819 You bought Big House Farm at Rosemarket. 162 00:09:26,858 --> 00:09:28,578 Your wife told Huntsman 163 00:09:28,618 --> 00:09:30,939 you also took your brothers and their families to Spain. 164 00:09:32,139 --> 00:09:34,299 - I certainly did. - You didn't take Adrian. 165 00:09:34,338 --> 00:09:35,978 Why was that, John? 166 00:09:40,338 --> 00:09:42,458 I don't know. 167 00:09:42,498 --> 00:09:44,618 Maybe he was ill with his asthma. 168 00:09:44,659 --> 00:09:46,578 You've been talking to him, have you? 169 00:09:46,618 --> 00:09:48,139 No, John. 170 00:09:48,179 --> 00:09:50,338 We have his statements from Huntsman. 171 00:09:52,699 --> 00:09:54,338 So, John... 172 00:09:54,378 --> 00:09:55,578 ...things were going well. 173 00:09:55,618 --> 00:09:58,179 You were buying and selling properties. 174 00:09:58,218 --> 00:10:00,218 But then the money worries started. 175 00:10:01,338 --> 00:10:02,659 HE SCOFFS 176 00:10:02,699 --> 00:10:04,939 Well, an estate agent tricked me out of a lot of money. 177 00:10:04,978 --> 00:10:06,738 My solicitor lied to me. 178 00:10:06,779 --> 00:10:08,458 When you come into a bit of money, 179 00:10:08,498 --> 00:10:10,498 well, the cockroaches come out of the woodwork. 180 00:10:10,539 --> 00:10:12,098 It can't have been easy, 181 00:10:12,139 --> 00:10:14,618 moving from Big House Farm, making the adjustment 182 00:10:14,659 --> 00:10:19,378 from owning your own place to renting at 28 Rose Meadow Lane. 183 00:10:19,419 --> 00:10:21,218 A man doesn't sit around moping. 184 00:10:21,258 --> 00:10:23,258 He's got to get out there, got to get grafting. 185 00:10:23,299 --> 00:10:28,218 Between 1978 and 1983, you spent over £125,000. 186 00:10:28,258 --> 00:10:31,779 That's £35,000 more than your winnings on Spot The Ball. 187 00:10:32,779 --> 00:10:34,738 Well, you've got to speculate to accumulate. 188 00:10:34,779 --> 00:10:36,338 Is that when you started gambling? 189 00:10:36,378 --> 00:10:38,019 What, £3 or £4 a week? 190 00:10:38,059 --> 00:10:39,659 A 50p round robin? 191 00:10:39,699 --> 00:10:41,659 I'd hardly call that gambling. 192 00:10:41,699 --> 00:10:44,978 Adrian told Huntsman you bet £1,000 on one race. 193 00:10:48,019 --> 00:10:49,659 He misremembered. 194 00:10:53,098 --> 00:10:54,978 April 20th, 1983. 195 00:10:55,019 --> 00:10:56,299 Clareston Hall, Freystrop. 196 00:10:56,338 --> 00:10:59,659 Your first conviction for burglary. Is that your idea of grafting, John? 197 00:11:08,578 --> 00:11:10,179 I don't like your tone. 198 00:11:16,019 --> 00:11:17,578 Oh, don't shut down, John boy. 199 00:11:23,539 --> 00:11:24,699 John... 200 00:11:25,939 --> 00:11:28,779 ...if you don't want to talk to us, we'll respect that. 201 00:11:29,779 --> 00:11:31,978 You can go back to Dyffryn Prison today. 202 00:11:41,179 --> 00:11:43,139 I'm not a thief. 203 00:11:47,019 --> 00:11:48,858 Well done, Rambo. 204 00:11:48,899 --> 00:11:50,578 OK. You told Huntsman 205 00:11:50,618 --> 00:11:55,819 that you visited Scoveston Park for the first time in August 1984, 206 00:11:55,858 --> 00:11:58,338 when you went to meet Richard and Helen Thomas 207 00:11:58,378 --> 00:12:00,539 about working on their land. Is that correct, John? 208 00:12:00,578 --> 00:12:03,338 I know what Adrian told Huntsman about Scoveston Park. 209 00:12:03,378 --> 00:12:06,659 About me telling him and his mother to lie to the police 210 00:12:06,699 --> 00:12:09,578 about us all being in that night, the night of the fire. 211 00:12:09,618 --> 00:12:12,419 That the truth was, according to him, 212 00:12:12,458 --> 00:12:15,498 that I came home late smelling of a bonfire. 213 00:12:15,539 --> 00:12:17,738 Now, you say you haven't spoken to him. Fair enough. 214 00:12:19,139 --> 00:12:21,299 But there's something I want to get off my chest. 215 00:12:22,578 --> 00:12:24,139 Everything that comes out 216 00:12:24,179 --> 00:12:26,458 of that boy's mouth is lies. 217 00:12:26,498 --> 00:12:29,659 Has been ever since we didn't take him to Spain. 218 00:12:31,458 --> 00:12:34,019 When me and Pat got back... 219 00:12:34,059 --> 00:12:35,779 he was a different boy. 220 00:12:36,899 --> 00:12:38,338 He was surly. 221 00:12:39,618 --> 00:12:40,978 He was disobedient. 222 00:12:41,019 --> 00:12:42,419 Bunking off school. 223 00:12:42,458 --> 00:12:43,858 Smoking wacky baccy. 224 00:12:45,179 --> 00:12:48,539 Forging cheques. Stealing money... off us. 225 00:12:49,618 --> 00:12:51,899 And all because we didn't take him on holiday. 226 00:12:54,059 --> 00:12:55,498 As a father... 227 00:12:55,539 --> 00:12:57,779 I take no pleasure in saying this. 228 00:12:57,819 --> 00:13:00,779 But the truth is, the real truth, the night of the fire... 229 00:13:01,899 --> 00:13:03,659 ...the murders... 230 00:13:03,699 --> 00:13:06,378 Adrian was the one who came home late. 231 00:13:08,819 --> 00:13:11,338 He's pointing the finger at his own son? 232 00:13:11,378 --> 00:13:12,819 Piece of filth. 233 00:13:19,292 --> 00:13:21,772 You know, I've been across the table from wife-beaters, 234 00:13:21,805 --> 00:13:23,606 rapists, paedophiles. 235 00:13:23,645 --> 00:13:26,685 - And I let him get to me. - And you made something happen. 236 00:13:26,726 --> 00:13:29,005 When he feels under threat, he blames Adrian. 237 00:13:29,045 --> 00:13:30,606 That's something to keep an eye on. 238 00:13:30,645 --> 00:13:32,126 So... 239 00:13:32,165 --> 00:13:34,685 - tomorrow... - Huntsman. 240 00:13:34,726 --> 00:13:37,086 With particular emphasis on our prime exhibits. 241 00:13:37,126 --> 00:13:38,525 There you go, look at that. 242 00:13:50,566 --> 00:13:52,246 HE SIGHS 243 00:14:04,606 --> 00:14:08,645 Now, John, I want to ask you about some exhibits 244 00:14:08,685 --> 00:14:11,566 found by Operation Huntsman. 245 00:14:11,606 --> 00:14:14,765 Some of them pertain to one particular robbery, 246 00:14:14,805 --> 00:14:18,206 the so-called Sardis robbery, for which you were convicted. 247 00:14:18,246 --> 00:14:19,606 Wrongly convicted. 248 00:14:21,486 --> 00:14:24,005 For the tape, I am showing Mr Cooper a photograph 249 00:14:24,045 --> 00:14:28,086 of Huntsman exhibit BB/109, a black glove. 250 00:14:28,126 --> 00:14:30,446 Do you recognise this glove, John? 251 00:14:30,486 --> 00:14:32,045 I haven't got the foggiest. 252 00:14:33,885 --> 00:14:36,446 I had a bit of an accident last night. 253 00:14:37,446 --> 00:14:39,126 I can't see a thing without them. Sorry. 254 00:14:39,165 --> 00:14:41,086 I know you're on a tight schedule. 255 00:14:42,126 --> 00:14:44,606 We know you had a problem with your glasses during Huntsman. 256 00:14:44,645 --> 00:14:46,805 We got your prescription from Dyffryn Prison. 257 00:14:46,846 --> 00:14:48,525 Just in case. 258 00:14:50,525 --> 00:14:51,846 I don't actually wear gloves. 259 00:14:51,885 --> 00:14:53,566 Adrian's the glove-wearer in the family. 260 00:14:55,566 --> 00:15:01,045 For the tape, evidence photo of Huntsman exhibit MTJ/14. 261 00:15:01,086 --> 00:15:02,206 Black balaclava. 262 00:15:02,246 --> 00:15:04,405 Do you recognise this balaclava, John? 263 00:15:05,885 --> 00:15:09,486 Do you remember that Huntsman found head hairs inside it 264 00:15:09,525 --> 00:15:11,126 that were forensically tested 265 00:15:11,165 --> 00:15:13,606 and confirmed to be yours? 266 00:15:20,005 --> 00:15:21,966 Yes. 267 00:15:22,005 --> 00:15:23,645 And yet you said it wasn't yours. 268 00:15:26,486 --> 00:15:28,045 That... was a mistake. 269 00:15:28,086 --> 00:15:30,326 I was wrong. I think that was mine. 270 00:15:37,846 --> 00:15:40,486 Ten years in prison, a man gets into a lot of thinking. 271 00:15:41,566 --> 00:15:44,606 He remembers things that he hasn't thought about for ages. 272 00:15:44,645 --> 00:15:46,805 And one of the things I do remember, 273 00:15:46,846 --> 00:15:49,206 and it was about 20 years ago, 274 00:15:49,246 --> 00:15:50,885 was I did used to have a black balaclava 275 00:15:50,925 --> 00:15:53,086 just like that one that I used to wear 276 00:15:53,126 --> 00:15:54,925 when I went fishing with a boat that I had. 277 00:15:54,966 --> 00:15:59,005 Well, remembering that, everything slotted into place. 278 00:15:59,045 --> 00:16:01,765 There's only one explanation that makes any sense. 279 00:16:03,326 --> 00:16:05,246 I didn't lose the balaclava. 280 00:16:05,285 --> 00:16:07,606 It was stolen. 281 00:16:07,645 --> 00:16:09,966 By the same individual who did the robbery 282 00:16:10,005 --> 00:16:12,246 that I was wrongly convicted of. 283 00:16:14,885 --> 00:16:16,045 OK, John. 284 00:16:16,086 --> 00:16:17,285 On we go. 285 00:16:17,326 --> 00:16:18,885 Huntsman exhibits... 286 00:16:18,925 --> 00:16:21,405 PAS/1, a sawn-off shotgun, 287 00:16:21,446 --> 00:16:23,326 and PH/2, 288 00:16:23,366 --> 00:16:26,285 a sawn-off shotgun with customised shoulder strap. 289 00:16:26,326 --> 00:16:28,805 Do you recognise these shotguns, John? 290 00:16:28,846 --> 00:16:30,285 You're trying to trick me. 291 00:16:31,805 --> 00:16:33,326 This gun is mine. 292 00:16:33,366 --> 00:16:35,326 This one is not. 293 00:16:35,366 --> 00:16:38,645 Huntsman found this gun, wrapped in oilcloth, 294 00:16:38,685 --> 00:16:41,005 buried underneath the duck run at your home. 295 00:16:41,045 --> 00:16:42,525 Why did you bury it, John? 296 00:16:42,566 --> 00:16:45,126 I didn't want Adrian to find it. Didn't want him hurting himself. 297 00:16:45,165 --> 00:16:46,846 And this gun, PH/2, 298 00:16:46,885 --> 00:16:50,486 was found with the glove and balaclava under the hedge 299 00:16:50,525 --> 00:16:53,006 close to the scene of the Sardis robbery. 300 00:16:53,046 --> 00:16:55,725 I'm aware. Huntsman must have told me about a hundred times. 301 00:16:55,766 --> 00:16:57,245 If you look closely, John, 302 00:16:57,286 --> 00:17:01,126 you will see that both guns have the same modifications. 303 00:17:01,165 --> 00:17:04,286 Sawn-off barrels and sawn-down stocks. 304 00:17:04,326 --> 00:17:06,606 Screws in both barrels and stocks 305 00:17:06,645 --> 00:17:08,006 for a shoulder strap. 306 00:17:09,086 --> 00:17:12,086 John, how do you account for the fact that 307 00:17:12,126 --> 00:17:15,405 the very same distinctive DIY modifications 308 00:17:15,445 --> 00:17:17,606 - were made to both shotguns? - Coincidence. 309 00:17:17,645 --> 00:17:19,925 Stranger things have happened, right? 310 00:17:19,965 --> 00:17:22,086 And while we're on the subject... 311 00:17:23,405 --> 00:17:27,606 ...I want to talk about the gun that Huntsman found under the hedge. 312 00:17:27,645 --> 00:17:28,885 For the tape. 313 00:17:28,925 --> 00:17:30,326 Here we go again. 314 00:17:30,366 --> 00:17:33,326 During the Huntsman trial, and I remember this very clearly 315 00:17:33,366 --> 00:17:35,885 because I thought it was very strange at the time, 316 00:17:35,925 --> 00:17:39,606 the prosecution barrister handed me the gun on more than one occasion. 317 00:17:41,445 --> 00:17:44,566 Well, what I'm saying is, if my DNA is on that, 318 00:17:44,606 --> 00:17:46,205 that's the reason why. 319 00:17:52,205 --> 00:17:54,645 His time in the library was well-spent. 320 00:17:54,685 --> 00:17:57,086 He's digging his own grave. 321 00:17:57,126 --> 00:17:59,366 Today was a result for us. 322 00:17:59,405 --> 00:18:00,405 The lengths he went to 323 00:18:00,445 --> 00:18:05,126 to distance himself from the Sardis exhibits means we are bang-on. 324 00:18:05,165 --> 00:18:08,485 His story about the gun being handled in the trial. 325 00:18:08,526 --> 00:18:12,086 The balaclava being stolen 20 years before, in 1988, 326 00:18:12,126 --> 00:18:13,965 the year before Coastal Path. 327 00:18:15,126 --> 00:18:18,286 He wasn't just telling us the man who stole the balaclava 328 00:18:18,326 --> 00:18:19,526 did the Sardis robbery, 329 00:18:19,566 --> 00:18:21,445 he was saying the man murdered the Dixons. 330 00:18:21,485 --> 00:18:24,126 Today, he confirmed what we'd always suspected. 331 00:18:24,165 --> 00:18:26,846 And he gave us something new into the bargain. 332 00:18:26,885 --> 00:18:29,606 When he killed Peter and Gwenda Dixon... 333 00:18:29,645 --> 00:18:31,326 he wore that balaclava. 334 00:18:31,366 --> 00:18:34,126 And PH/2 is, without a doubt, the murder weapon. 335 00:18:34,165 --> 00:18:36,925 What exhibits shall we send back for re-testing, then, boss? 336 00:18:36,965 --> 00:18:38,645 The Sardis robbery gun and the balaclava. 337 00:18:38,685 --> 00:18:40,086 Don't bother with the duck run gun. 338 00:18:40,126 --> 00:18:42,566 - Save that money for something else. - What about the glove? 339 00:18:42,606 --> 00:18:45,685 He said Adrian was the glove-wearer. That's got to mean something. 340 00:18:46,806 --> 00:18:48,326 Put it in. 341 00:18:48,366 --> 00:18:49,766 Don't all call me a twat at once... 342 00:18:49,806 --> 00:18:51,685 MEN: Twat! 343 00:18:51,725 --> 00:18:53,286 ...but what's the point in re-testing 344 00:18:53,326 --> 00:18:55,485 when we already know they'll come back negative? 345 00:18:55,526 --> 00:18:58,286 Testing for trace DNA is like battleships. It's a guessing game. 346 00:18:59,485 --> 00:19:01,445 The boffins can't see what they're looking for. 347 00:19:01,485 --> 00:19:03,445 They test small areas they think are most likely 348 00:19:03,485 --> 00:19:04,925 and hope for the best. 349 00:19:06,326 --> 00:19:08,485 But there's always bits that haven't been tested. 350 00:19:08,526 --> 00:19:09,485 So... 351 00:19:09,526 --> 00:19:11,165 ...tomorrow is our last day with him. 352 00:19:12,766 --> 00:19:15,485 I'm happy to risk a bit of confrontation. 353 00:19:15,526 --> 00:19:17,526 Rambo, I want Ella to lead. 354 00:19:17,566 --> 00:19:18,925 Right. 355 00:19:20,685 --> 00:19:22,126 Hey, don't leave me hanging! 356 00:19:23,165 --> 00:19:25,725 HE CHUCKLES 357 00:19:30,685 --> 00:19:32,846 John, do you think the man in the drawing 358 00:19:32,885 --> 00:19:37,086 bears any resemblance to yourself as you were in July 1989? 359 00:19:39,885 --> 00:19:41,485 No, not at all. 360 00:19:43,485 --> 00:19:46,205 Even the detective who came round the house said as much at the time. 361 00:19:46,245 --> 00:19:48,606 Detective Rees. The one who used to drink with you? 362 00:19:49,725 --> 00:19:51,485 Yeah. 363 00:19:51,526 --> 00:19:54,086 So, John, how did you look in July 1989? 364 00:19:54,126 --> 00:19:56,286 - Haven't you got any photographs? - No, John. 365 00:19:56,326 --> 00:19:58,485 Which is why we'd appreciate your help. 366 00:19:58,526 --> 00:20:01,046 - I don't remember. It was 20 years ago. - 19, actually. 367 00:20:02,846 --> 00:20:03,965 Let me get this straight. 368 00:20:04,006 --> 00:20:05,885 You can't remember how you looked back then, 369 00:20:05,925 --> 00:20:09,046 but you're confident that this sketch, made at that time, 370 00:20:09,086 --> 00:20:11,086 doesn't resemble you at all. 371 00:20:11,126 --> 00:20:12,126 I'm sure. 372 00:20:12,165 --> 00:20:14,766 Because I know I didn't have hair that long. 373 00:20:14,806 --> 00:20:17,445 - You never had collar-length hair? - I don't like it on my neck. 374 00:20:17,485 --> 00:20:20,965 What about the clothes the man in the drawing's wearing, John? 375 00:20:21,006 --> 00:20:22,405 I don't go in for shorts. 376 00:20:22,445 --> 00:20:24,766 Shorts were more Adrian's thing. 377 00:20:27,286 --> 00:20:29,806 Stick with the shorts, Ella. 378 00:20:29,846 --> 00:20:32,566 The witness who saw this man using Peter Dixon's stolen cash card 379 00:20:32,606 --> 00:20:35,165 said that the shorts he was wearing were khaki coloured. 380 00:20:36,366 --> 00:20:38,526 Did you ever own a pair of khaki shorts, John? 381 00:20:39,566 --> 00:20:40,566 Yes. 382 00:20:41,846 --> 00:20:43,366 But they were more bathers 383 00:20:43,405 --> 00:20:45,245 than shorts. 384 00:20:45,286 --> 00:20:47,445 They were shorter. Those are long shorts. 385 00:20:47,485 --> 00:20:49,286 Mine were short shorts, more like bathers. 386 00:20:49,326 --> 00:20:52,205 Adrian used to wear them more than I did. 387 00:20:52,245 --> 00:20:55,126 He was always borrowing my clothes. 388 00:21:08,606 --> 00:21:10,766 These are the only shorts that Huntsman found 389 00:21:10,806 --> 00:21:13,445 at 28 Rose Meadow Lane. 390 00:21:13,485 --> 00:21:15,046 No khaki, and they're all a lot shorter 391 00:21:15,086 --> 00:21:16,485 than the ones in the wanted photo. 392 00:21:16,526 --> 00:21:17,806 What about bathers? 393 00:21:17,846 --> 00:21:20,205 - He said that more than once. - Bathers. 394 00:21:20,245 --> 00:21:22,685 Shorts. Swimming trucks. Trousers. We did the lot. 395 00:21:22,725 --> 00:21:24,046 He said Andrew wore them. 396 00:21:24,086 --> 00:21:26,205 That's his tell. 397 00:21:26,245 --> 00:21:29,526 Something about those shorts worries him. 398 00:21:29,566 --> 00:21:30,925 Why? 399 00:21:32,165 --> 00:21:34,006 And where the hell are they? 400 00:21:34,046 --> 00:21:35,846 KNOCK ON DOOR 401 00:21:40,205 --> 00:21:41,645 Mrs Patricia Cooper? 402 00:21:42,885 --> 00:21:44,806 Detective Superintendent Steve Wilkins. 403 00:21:44,846 --> 00:21:46,245 This is DI Ella Richards. 404 00:21:46,286 --> 00:21:47,885 Can we come in for a minute, please? 405 00:21:47,925 --> 00:21:49,685 WHISPERS: Come in. 406 00:22:00,645 --> 00:22:02,245 You won't find anything. 407 00:22:04,405 --> 00:22:06,766 Well, you lot took everything of John's nine years ago. 408 00:22:06,806 --> 00:22:08,286 Not us, Mrs Cooper. 409 00:22:09,526 --> 00:22:12,405 You used to work at Ocky White's, didn't you, Mrs Cooper? 410 00:22:12,445 --> 00:22:14,366 I was the best seamstress they had. 411 00:22:20,965 --> 00:22:24,606 These were taken the year your husband won on Spot The Ball? 412 00:22:24,645 --> 00:22:26,046 1978? 413 00:22:26,086 --> 00:22:27,806 - Yes? - Yes. 414 00:22:29,725 --> 00:22:32,925 A professional photographer came to the house. 415 00:22:32,965 --> 00:22:36,685 Do you have any later photographs of the two of you, Mrs Cooper? 416 00:22:36,725 --> 00:22:37,885 No. 417 00:22:39,006 --> 00:22:40,725 We weren't big on family photos. 418 00:22:44,245 --> 00:22:48,205 1978, that was the year you went on holiday to Spain, right? 419 00:22:49,526 --> 00:22:50,685 Yes. 420 00:22:50,725 --> 00:22:54,286 Do you mind me asking, why didn't you take Adrian with you? 421 00:22:54,326 --> 00:22:55,725 I don't remember. 422 00:22:59,286 --> 00:23:00,645 Are you finished? 423 00:23:03,485 --> 00:23:04,685 Thank you. 424 00:23:09,445 --> 00:23:10,766 FRONT DOOR CLOSES 425 00:23:14,725 --> 00:23:17,485 DOG BARKS OUTSIDE 426 00:23:25,086 --> 00:23:27,566 BARKING CONTINUES 427 00:23:27,606 --> 00:23:30,526 HE BREATHES HEAVILY 428 00:23:30,566 --> 00:23:32,846 HE GROANS 429 00:23:34,366 --> 00:23:36,685 HE PANTS FOR BREATH 430 00:23:53,950 --> 00:23:55,311 What's wrong with you? 431 00:23:56,390 --> 00:23:58,071 I had the police round. 432 00:23:59,430 --> 00:24:03,071 Asking about an old khaki pair of bathers of yours. 433 00:24:03,110 --> 00:24:04,430 What's that about? 434 00:24:04,471 --> 00:24:06,350 - Did they find them? - No. 435 00:24:06,390 --> 00:24:09,190 They took all your clothes when you were arrested. You know that. 436 00:24:09,238 --> 00:24:12,123 I want you to get hold of Adrian. Find out if he's got them. 437 00:24:13,831 --> 00:24:15,390 I don't have a number for him. 438 00:24:15,430 --> 00:24:18,110 Well, Shirley's daughter, she's a receptionist in the hospital. 439 00:24:18,150 --> 00:24:19,950 She'll give it to you. You're his mother. 440 00:24:19,991 --> 00:24:22,190 You're telling me... 441 00:24:22,231 --> 00:24:23,551 to get in touch with Adrian? 442 00:24:23,590 --> 00:24:25,071 Yes! 443 00:24:30,910 --> 00:24:33,910 Forensics said they took it apart, tested every nook and cranny, 444 00:24:33,950 --> 00:24:35,670 every millimetre of the shoulder strap. 445 00:24:35,711 --> 00:24:38,231 Yeah, they also said re-testing it for DNA 446 00:24:38,271 --> 00:24:40,870 would be a complete waste of Ottawa's money and their time. 447 00:24:40,910 --> 00:24:43,511 That's not their call to make. 448 00:24:43,551 --> 00:24:46,110 Where are we with the forensics budget? 449 00:24:46,150 --> 00:24:47,551 17,000 left. 450 00:24:47,590 --> 00:24:49,110 Out of 350,000. 451 00:24:49,150 --> 00:24:50,471 Jesus... 452 00:24:50,511 --> 00:24:52,350 Boss, I'm not convinced we're getting 453 00:24:52,390 --> 00:24:54,751 the best possible bang for our buck here. 454 00:24:54,791 --> 00:24:57,271 I think we should have a sit-down with Dr Gallop. 455 00:24:57,311 --> 00:25:00,831 Make sure we're not getting sidelined by some big London job. 456 00:25:01,870 --> 00:25:04,311 Is that metal I can see through the paint? 457 00:25:04,350 --> 00:25:07,311 It's where the finish has worn off. That thing was made in the 1940s. 458 00:25:07,350 --> 00:25:10,390 - And that's the manufacturer's finish? - Yeah, we assumed. 459 00:25:10,430 --> 00:25:12,991 Obviously, we've not seen the thing in the flesh. Assumed? 460 00:25:14,551 --> 00:25:16,390 Really, Lynne? Glyn? 461 00:25:18,831 --> 00:25:21,430 Did Huntsman recover any paint from Cooper's home? 462 00:25:21,471 --> 00:25:22,870 KEYBOARD CLACKS 463 00:25:22,910 --> 00:25:24,390 Yeah, six pots in the shed. 464 00:25:24,430 --> 00:25:26,390 Nige, get the Huntsman shed file. 465 00:25:26,430 --> 00:25:27,590 Any of them black? 466 00:25:29,390 --> 00:25:30,471 Yeah. 467 00:25:30,511 --> 00:25:31,991 JAW/100. 468 00:25:33,071 --> 00:25:34,430 JAW/100... 469 00:25:43,551 --> 00:25:46,071 I want that taken out of storage. 470 00:25:55,950 --> 00:25:58,311 LYNNE: Your team have been on this case for 18 months now 471 00:25:58,350 --> 00:26:00,150 and all we've got to show for it is 472 00:26:00,190 --> 00:26:03,390 a partial for Peter Dixon's DNA on a piece of rope. 473 00:26:03,430 --> 00:26:06,190 With respect, we're seeing this a lot. 474 00:26:06,231 --> 00:26:09,231 This obsession with DNA at the expense of... 475 00:26:10,190 --> 00:26:13,190 ...well, other, less fashionable avenues of analysis. 476 00:26:13,231 --> 00:26:17,711 Ottawa's insistence that we focus solely on DNA 477 00:26:17,751 --> 00:26:19,870 has put my team in a straitjacket. 478 00:26:19,910 --> 00:26:22,831 No. No, no, no. We asked you to prioritise DNA, 479 00:26:22,870 --> 00:26:24,630 but not to the exclusion of everything else. 480 00:26:24,670 --> 00:26:27,071 But that's the impression you gave my colleague. 481 00:26:27,110 --> 00:26:28,670 Dr Gallop... 482 00:26:29,670 --> 00:26:31,950 ...let's say we remove the straitjacket. 483 00:26:31,991 --> 00:26:33,950 How would that change things? 484 00:26:33,991 --> 00:26:36,190 Well, it would allow us to widen our search, 485 00:26:36,231 --> 00:26:38,910 look for other types of evidence. 486 00:26:38,950 --> 00:26:42,311 Now, we're agreed that the killer wore gloves, yes? 487 00:26:42,350 --> 00:26:44,110 We look for textile fibres. 488 00:26:44,150 --> 00:26:45,590 Fibres are circumstantial. 489 00:26:45,630 --> 00:26:48,190 - We need hard proof. - Yes, but... 490 00:26:48,231 --> 00:26:52,071 if we can find enough fibres linking culprit to victim, 491 00:26:52,110 --> 00:26:54,910 it could tell an equally compelling story 492 00:26:54,950 --> 00:26:56,590 about the circumstances of the crimes. 493 00:26:56,630 --> 00:26:59,430 Maybe even get you over the charge threshold with the CPS. 494 00:27:03,311 --> 00:27:04,390 OK. 495 00:27:04,430 --> 00:27:05,511 Let's go for it. 496 00:27:05,551 --> 00:27:07,350 All right. 497 00:27:07,390 --> 00:27:09,910 We have one other request. 498 00:27:09,950 --> 00:27:11,590 We believe... 499 00:27:11,630 --> 00:27:14,231 that this is the Coastal Path murder weapon. 500 00:27:14,271 --> 00:27:15,630 Yeah, PH/2. 501 00:27:15,670 --> 00:27:17,831 I heard you'd asked the team to have another look. 502 00:27:17,870 --> 00:27:20,031 Yes, but this is a different request. 503 00:27:20,071 --> 00:27:21,511 Among the items recovered by Huntsman 504 00:27:21,551 --> 00:27:22,751 from the shed at Cooper's home 505 00:27:22,791 --> 00:27:26,831 was this 750ml tin of Anvileen satin black metal paint. 506 00:27:29,751 --> 00:27:32,991 I think Cooper painted the barrels of the gun 507 00:27:33,031 --> 00:27:34,751 to make it less visible at night. 508 00:27:34,791 --> 00:27:35,991 Hm. 509 00:27:36,031 --> 00:27:37,231 The murders were in 1989. 510 00:27:37,271 --> 00:27:41,630 Anvileen didn't manufacture this particular paint until 1995. 511 00:27:41,670 --> 00:27:44,190 So, if PH/2 is the murder weapon, 512 00:27:44,231 --> 00:27:47,991 there could still be trace DNA under the paint. 513 00:27:48,031 --> 00:27:50,630 Well, that's more than six years. 514 00:27:50,670 --> 00:27:52,831 During which the gun would've been cleaned, 515 00:27:52,870 --> 00:27:55,110 rained on, exposed to the elements. 516 00:27:56,271 --> 00:27:59,031 Are you sure this is the best use of what's left of your budget? 517 00:28:01,870 --> 00:28:03,150 I'm sure. 518 00:28:04,471 --> 00:28:05,711 All right. 519 00:28:32,350 --> 00:28:34,471 PHONE RINGS 520 00:28:36,991 --> 00:28:38,271 Hello? 521 00:28:40,271 --> 00:28:41,751 Hello, Adrian. 522 00:28:44,430 --> 00:28:46,150 DIALLING TONE 523 00:29:07,031 --> 00:29:09,590 PHONE RINGS 524 00:29:16,231 --> 00:29:18,390 - Hello?- How did you get my number? 525 00:29:18,430 --> 00:29:20,271 Nice to hear from you, too! 526 00:29:23,350 --> 00:29:24,910 What do you want? 527 00:29:24,950 --> 00:29:26,831 Just to find out how you are. 528 00:29:29,231 --> 00:29:31,150 I heard you were in hospital. 529 00:29:33,311 --> 00:29:35,190 Why did you go and do a silly thing like that? 530 00:29:39,271 --> 00:29:40,751 It was nothing. 531 00:29:40,791 --> 00:29:42,231 A mistake. 532 00:29:43,831 --> 00:29:45,511 I thought I could come and see you. 533 00:29:48,271 --> 00:29:50,390 It's not a good time. 534 00:29:50,430 --> 00:29:51,950 I'm doing the place up. 535 00:29:51,991 --> 00:29:53,390 It's a bombsite. 536 00:29:54,471 --> 00:29:56,791 So, come to mine, then. 537 00:30:05,511 --> 00:30:08,110 Ah, boss. Ollie Wakefield from the CPS called you. 538 00:30:08,150 --> 00:30:09,390 Great. 539 00:30:10,471 --> 00:30:11,791 Ollie, Steve Wilkins. 540 00:30:11,831 --> 00:30:13,071 Listen... 541 00:30:13,110 --> 00:30:14,831 Ottawa needs a favour. 542 00:30:14,870 --> 00:30:16,311 The governor at Dyffryn Prison 543 00:30:16,350 --> 00:30:18,511 refuses to delay Cooper's second parole hearing. 544 00:30:18,551 --> 00:30:21,511 And I think a word from the CPS might persuade the man 545 00:30:21,551 --> 00:30:22,751 to see some sense. 546 00:30:22,791 --> 00:30:25,150 The case, it isn't there, Steve. 547 00:30:25,190 --> 00:30:27,831 You know what the prison services will say. No hard evidence. 548 00:30:27,870 --> 00:30:30,271 - I'm sorry. - Ollie, if he is released 549 00:30:30,311 --> 00:30:32,751 back into the community and he hurts someone, 550 00:30:32,791 --> 00:30:35,471 "institutionally incompetent" will be a happy memory 551 00:30:35,511 --> 00:30:38,950 when we are up to our necks in public inquiries. 552 00:30:38,991 --> 00:30:40,791 You're that convinced he'll kill again? 553 00:30:42,110 --> 00:30:43,950 He's a serial killer. 554 00:30:43,991 --> 00:30:45,751 Serial killers don't... 555 00:30:45,791 --> 00:30:47,430 They can't stop. 556 00:30:47,471 --> 00:30:49,950 Steve, inevitable mutterings have started. 557 00:30:49,991 --> 00:30:52,150 There's talk of shutting Ottawa down. 558 00:30:52,190 --> 00:30:53,910 HE SIGHS 559 00:31:28,590 --> 00:31:29,870 Hi, Ma. 560 00:31:32,551 --> 00:31:33,910 What happened to you? 561 00:31:35,670 --> 00:31:37,271 An accident at work. 562 00:31:49,511 --> 00:31:50,991 DOOR CLOSES 563 00:31:56,350 --> 00:31:57,910 I thought you might be peckish. 564 00:32:06,190 --> 00:32:08,430 Are you still visiting him? 565 00:32:08,471 --> 00:32:10,031 Every week. 566 00:32:11,910 --> 00:32:15,071 Is he gonna live here with you when he gets out? 567 00:32:15,110 --> 00:32:16,831 I'm his wife. 568 00:32:16,870 --> 00:32:18,190 Where else is he gonna live? 569 00:32:24,311 --> 00:32:26,511 He's a bit worked up at the moment. 570 00:32:26,551 --> 00:32:28,071 The police are bothering him again. 571 00:32:30,231 --> 00:32:31,390 Oh, yeah? 572 00:32:33,711 --> 00:32:34,991 Actually... 573 00:32:36,511 --> 00:32:37,870 it's a silly thing. 574 00:32:39,551 --> 00:32:42,551 You don't have an old pair of khaki bathers of his, do you? 575 00:32:47,791 --> 00:32:50,071 Still running things, even from in prison. 576 00:32:50,110 --> 00:32:52,110 SHE SIGHS 577 00:32:52,150 --> 00:32:55,031 It wasn't true what I said earlier about an accident at work. 578 00:32:57,271 --> 00:32:58,751 He did this to me. 579 00:32:58,791 --> 00:33:01,071 The same year you had those stupid photos done, 580 00:33:01,110 --> 00:33:02,670 he broke my back. 581 00:33:02,711 --> 00:33:04,150 He didn't break your back. 582 00:33:04,190 --> 00:33:08,150 A year ago, I was fit and strong, working in Ireland, hod-carrying. 583 00:33:08,190 --> 00:33:10,910 One morning, it was like I was struck by lightning. 584 00:33:12,231 --> 00:33:13,751 Nine hours of surgery. 585 00:33:14,870 --> 00:33:17,511 Rods and screws in my pelvis and spine. 586 00:33:17,551 --> 00:33:19,911 I thought it was the work that caused it, but the consultant 587 00:33:19,912 --> 00:33:22,553 told me it was an injury from childhood. 588 00:33:24,430 --> 00:33:27,031 Straight away, I knew it was that punch in the back. 589 00:33:27,071 --> 00:33:30,311 You knew something was seriously wrong when it happened, 590 00:33:30,350 --> 00:33:32,231 but you didn't take me to the hospital 591 00:33:32,271 --> 00:33:34,831 because he was worried someone might be suspicious. 592 00:33:34,870 --> 00:33:36,350 I never knew it was serious. 593 00:33:36,390 --> 00:33:37,751 I couldn't move! 594 00:33:39,551 --> 00:33:42,071 You left me to lie in my own urine for five days. 595 00:33:44,271 --> 00:33:46,430 You didn't even change my sopping sheets. 596 00:33:48,390 --> 00:33:50,991 You brought me plenty of toast and strawberry jam, though! 597 00:33:52,470 --> 00:33:54,671 A couple of weeks later, you left me with nan 598 00:33:54,711 --> 00:33:56,831 and all took off for sunny Spain. 599 00:34:00,151 --> 00:34:02,470 I was 12 years old. 600 00:34:03,711 --> 00:34:05,711 We thought it was better that you rested. 601 00:34:08,390 --> 00:34:09,950 What's wrong with you? 602 00:34:09,990 --> 00:34:12,831 I didn't know. 603 00:34:14,430 --> 00:34:16,671 HE EXHALES HEAVILY 604 00:34:17,711 --> 00:34:19,271 Don't go, Adrian. 605 00:34:19,311 --> 00:34:21,271 I didn't just call you because he told me to. 606 00:34:21,311 --> 00:34:23,231 I've missed you. 607 00:34:23,271 --> 00:34:24,510 FRONT DOOR SLAMS 608 00:34:32,791 --> 00:34:34,591 KNOCKS ON DOOR 609 00:34:35,671 --> 00:34:37,950 Second time lucky. 610 00:34:37,990 --> 00:34:39,430 I got it? 611 00:34:39,470 --> 00:34:41,070 Congratulations, John. 612 00:34:41,111 --> 00:34:42,791 You're gonna be out by Christmas. 613 00:34:47,910 --> 00:34:49,271 Well done. 614 00:35:12,470 --> 00:35:15,151 Yup. Well... 615 00:35:15,191 --> 00:35:16,631 thanks for letting me know. 616 00:35:22,390 --> 00:35:24,390 I can't believe they're letting him out now. 617 00:35:24,430 --> 00:35:26,591 We're so close. 618 00:35:26,631 --> 00:35:27,950 Are we, though? 619 00:35:29,030 --> 00:35:31,950 I'm gonna put that down to exhaustion and a shit day. 620 00:35:33,751 --> 00:35:35,910 Do you know what I do after a shit day? 621 00:35:35,950 --> 00:35:36,990 What? 622 00:35:37,030 --> 00:35:38,510 I go home... 623 00:35:38,550 --> 00:35:41,390 and I eat a large amount of unhealthy food with my family. 624 00:35:41,430 --> 00:35:43,030 HE CHUCKLES 625 00:35:43,070 --> 00:35:44,950 Go home, Steve. 626 00:35:44,990 --> 00:35:46,430 Be with your boy. 627 00:35:47,631 --> 00:35:48,870 Evening! 628 00:35:50,111 --> 00:35:52,311 Jack? 629 00:35:52,350 --> 00:35:53,950 I've got fish and chips! 630 00:36:06,231 --> 00:36:08,870 Hey, it's Jack Wilkins. I'm not here at the moment. 631 00:36:08,910 --> 00:36:11,271 Just leave a message and I'll get back to you. 632 00:36:11,311 --> 00:36:13,271 HE SIGHS 633 00:36:14,311 --> 00:36:15,510 CAR DOOR CLOSES 634 00:36:15,550 --> 00:36:17,671 TV IN BACKGROUND 635 00:36:19,191 --> 00:36:20,711 DOOR CLOSES 636 00:36:21,910 --> 00:36:23,070 Finally! 637 00:36:23,111 --> 00:36:24,151 FRIDGE DOOR OPENS 638 00:36:24,191 --> 00:36:27,550 You know, I'd appreciate it if, once in a blue moon, 639 00:36:27,591 --> 00:36:29,910 you'd answer your phone or responded to a text. 640 00:36:32,470 --> 00:36:34,831 Have you been drinking, by any chance? 641 00:36:34,870 --> 00:36:36,151 Yeah, I've been celebrating! 642 00:36:37,151 --> 00:36:38,550 Celebrating what? 643 00:36:38,591 --> 00:36:40,430 I made the county team. 644 00:36:42,231 --> 00:36:44,390 Thanks for being there for me today, Dad! 645 00:36:45,311 --> 00:36:46,671 Shit...! 646 00:36:48,271 --> 00:36:49,550 Jack! 647 00:36:49,591 --> 00:36:51,550 DOOR SLAMS Jack! 648 00:36:53,311 --> 00:36:55,030 KNOCKING ON DOOR 649 00:36:59,791 --> 00:37:01,271 Leave me alone. 650 00:37:02,350 --> 00:37:03,791 There's no need for that. 651 00:37:05,631 --> 00:37:06,950 I'm sorry, Jack. 652 00:37:08,711 --> 00:37:12,751 You made such a big deal about us spending more time together. 653 00:37:12,791 --> 00:37:16,111 But you just can't do it. You're so fucking obsessed with your work. 654 00:37:16,151 --> 00:37:17,271 You're a shit dad. 655 00:37:17,311 --> 00:37:19,070 Hey, now, come on. That's not fair. 656 00:37:21,271 --> 00:37:22,950 Look, I'm sorry I forgot about the trial. 657 00:37:22,990 --> 00:37:24,271 I'm sorry I'm not a perfect dad. 658 00:37:27,350 --> 00:37:29,030 It's no excuse. 659 00:37:29,070 --> 00:37:30,631 I took my eye off the ball, OK? 660 00:37:35,311 --> 00:37:36,470 OK. 661 00:37:42,831 --> 00:37:44,111 Have you eaten? 662 00:37:44,151 --> 00:37:45,430 Yeah. 663 00:37:45,470 --> 00:37:46,990 Right, well... 664 00:37:47,030 --> 00:37:48,831 get some kip. 665 00:38:04,565 --> 00:38:06,324 This is last chance saloon, guys. 666 00:38:06,364 --> 00:38:08,044 Cooper will be home in a week. 667 00:38:08,085 --> 00:38:10,645 We have got to go over everything. 668 00:38:11,844 --> 00:38:14,484 I mean, not having a photograph of Cooper 669 00:38:14,524 --> 00:38:17,044 that we can compare to the artist's impression, 670 00:38:17,085 --> 00:38:18,524 it's a hole in our case. 671 00:38:19,565 --> 00:38:22,884 Nige, Glyn, doorstep his and Pat's relatives. 672 00:38:22,924 --> 00:38:25,685 Tell them that we need family photographs for our records. 673 00:38:25,725 --> 00:38:26,884 Yes, boss. 674 00:38:26,924 --> 00:38:28,285 I'll drive. 675 00:38:43,285 --> 00:38:44,645 Andrew... 676 00:38:48,364 --> 00:38:50,364 What about Pat? 677 00:38:50,404 --> 00:38:53,285 He'll be housed somewhere else, right? She can't live with him now. 678 00:38:53,324 --> 00:38:55,004 They've been married a long time, Andrew. 679 00:38:55,044 --> 00:38:57,484 If he was gonna do something to her, he'd have done it by now. 680 00:38:57,485 --> 00:38:58,686 You don't know that. 681 00:38:59,884 --> 00:39:02,685 He's been in prison ten years. Who knows what that's done to him? 682 00:39:04,645 --> 00:39:06,044 She's still scared of him. 683 00:39:07,085 --> 00:39:08,924 I went to see her. 684 00:39:08,964 --> 00:39:11,125 She called me. 685 00:39:12,165 --> 00:39:13,364 I thought... 686 00:39:14,765 --> 00:39:17,085 I thought she wanted a mother-and-son reunion. 687 00:39:18,285 --> 00:39:20,085 But she was just following orders. 688 00:39:22,044 --> 00:39:25,565 He wanted her to find out if I had an old pair of bathers of his. 689 00:39:25,605 --> 00:39:27,125 Does that mean anything to you? 690 00:39:28,205 --> 00:39:30,364 Do you have them? 691 00:39:30,404 --> 00:39:32,565 I wouldn't wear anything of his. 692 00:39:35,444 --> 00:39:37,085 Get down there, Jack! 693 00:39:37,125 --> 00:39:38,765 Come on! 694 00:39:40,765 --> 00:39:42,924 WHISTLE BLOWS REFEREE: Corner. 695 00:39:44,205 --> 00:39:46,324 Right, on it! 696 00:39:46,364 --> 00:39:48,484 PLAYERS SHOUT 697 00:39:48,524 --> 00:39:49,924 Yes! 698 00:39:49,964 --> 00:39:51,205 Go on, son! 699 00:39:52,364 --> 00:39:53,524 Yes! 700 00:39:55,444 --> 00:39:58,164 - So, the scout was there again today. - He was? Did he speak to you? 701 00:39:58,165 --> 00:40:00,125 He's gonna give me a ring after the weekend. 702 00:40:01,245 --> 00:40:04,085 - Thanks for being there today, Dad. - Oh, my pleasure, sunshine. 703 00:40:04,125 --> 00:40:06,964 - I'm sorry I've been a bit of a pain. - Oh, don't you worry about it. 704 00:40:07,004 --> 00:40:08,725 Hey, I'll see you later. 705 00:40:08,765 --> 00:40:11,125 - You're not coming in? - I'd better not. 706 00:40:11,165 --> 00:40:14,004 Is it something to do with work? 707 00:40:14,044 --> 00:40:16,404 - It's one of his old haunts. - You're joking? 708 00:40:17,484 --> 00:40:20,205 I shouldn't go in. Someone might recognise me. 709 00:40:20,245 --> 00:40:21,685 So? 710 00:40:21,725 --> 00:40:24,044 Well, I don't want you connected to me. 711 00:40:24,085 --> 00:40:25,765 It's just a precaution. 712 00:40:25,805 --> 00:40:27,805 It's fine. I'll go in ahead of you. 713 00:40:27,844 --> 00:40:30,484 Aren't you curious to see inside? 714 00:40:30,524 --> 00:40:32,245 Come on, you know you want to. 715 00:40:35,004 --> 00:40:37,765 It's fine. Go on, I'll pick you up in an hour. 716 00:40:44,884 --> 00:40:47,004 WAVES CRASH 717 00:40:48,645 --> 00:40:50,765 BACKGROUND CHATTER 718 00:40:54,044 --> 00:40:56,605 EERIE MUSIC 719 00:41:11,964 --> 00:41:14,245 A pint of lager shandy, please. 720 00:41:22,844 --> 00:41:24,245 All right, lads? 721 00:41:41,565 --> 00:41:43,324 Excuse me. 722 00:41:43,364 --> 00:41:44,685 Dyfed Powys Police. 723 00:41:47,884 --> 00:41:50,565 Can you identify the man in the picture? 724 00:41:50,605 --> 00:41:54,205 With the 'tache? Aye, that's Johnny Cooper. 725 00:41:54,245 --> 00:41:55,605 When was the photograph taken? 726 00:41:55,645 --> 00:41:57,844 I don't know, the late '80s. 727 00:41:57,884 --> 00:42:00,044 Probably about the time he was on that... 728 00:42:00,085 --> 00:42:02,725 What do you call it? That darts quiz show on telly. 729 00:42:02,765 --> 00:42:05,165 - Bullseye? - Aye. That's the one. 730 00:42:10,125 --> 00:42:12,524 STEVE: Bullseye, 1989. 731 00:42:14,205 --> 00:42:16,364 You are shitting me! 732 00:42:16,404 --> 00:42:18,085 The year he killed the Dixons, 733 00:42:18,125 --> 00:42:20,285 Cooper was throwing darts on national television. 734 00:42:20,324 --> 00:42:21,404 On ITV! 735 00:42:21,444 --> 00:42:24,884 We've been looking for a photo of the bastard from '89. 736 00:42:24,924 --> 00:42:27,324 And we might well have a whole bloody video. 737 00:42:28,605 --> 00:42:30,364 Jesus Christ...! 738 00:43:18,404 --> 00:43:19,765 Welcome home, love. 739 00:43:24,484 --> 00:43:25,605 What? 740 00:43:26,844 --> 00:43:28,205 Come here. 741 00:43:35,205 --> 00:43:38,844 So, Bullseye was produced by Central Television in Birmingham. 742 00:43:38,884 --> 00:43:42,044 But recordings of old shows are held in an archive in Leeds. 743 00:43:42,085 --> 00:43:43,484 Now, the librarian there 744 00:43:43,524 --> 00:43:45,524 has been going through lists of old contestants 745 00:43:45,565 --> 00:43:47,565 from old shows from the '80s. 746 00:43:47,605 --> 00:43:49,404 And in series nine, 747 00:43:49,444 --> 00:43:53,165 there's two contestants identified as being from South Pembrokeshire. 748 00:43:53,205 --> 00:43:58,004 Now, the episode they were in was broadcast in October '89. 749 00:43:58,044 --> 00:44:00,685 But it was recorded on 28th May. 750 00:44:02,364 --> 00:44:05,085 A month and a day before the Dixons were murdered. 751 00:44:12,165 --> 00:44:15,565 BULLSEYE THEME TUNE PLAYS 752 00:44:17,765 --> 00:44:20,245 - So, you've got the tapes, then? - Yeah, they've just arrived. 753 00:44:21,444 --> 00:44:24,884 BULLSEYE THEME TUNE CONTINUES 754 00:44:24,924 --> 00:44:27,444 ANNOUNCER: It's a bull's-eye! 755 00:44:27,484 --> 00:44:29,324 And here's your host... 756 00:44:29,364 --> 00:44:31,004 - Jim Bowen!- Good evening. 757 00:44:31,044 --> 00:44:32,685 Welcome to Bullseye. 758 00:44:32,725 --> 00:44:34,725 Can you just fast-forward it to the contestants? 759 00:44:38,165 --> 00:44:39,645 JIM BOWEN: Good. 760 00:44:39,692 --> 00:44:41,531 You've got an unusual hobby, John. 761 00:44:41,565 --> 00:44:44,324 Oh, yes, the scuba diving. The scuba diving. 762 00:44:44,364 --> 00:44:46,605 It's the place to do it down there, isn't it? 763 00:44:46,645 --> 00:44:48,285 Well, we've got the coastline, yes. 764 00:44:48,324 --> 00:44:51,085 STEVE: And there's the shoulder-length hair he never had. 765 00:44:51,125 --> 00:44:52,565 Well, we've got the deep water... 766 00:44:52,605 --> 00:44:54,765 And you can swim over mountains and all sorts. 767 00:44:54,805 --> 00:44:57,445 We hope you all have a good night. Give them a round of applause. 768 00:44:57,484 --> 00:45:00,285 APPLAUSE 769 00:45:10,605 --> 00:45:12,004 Best of luck, John. 770 00:45:13,844 --> 00:45:15,245 That's five. 771 00:45:15,285 --> 00:45:16,444 '20. 772 00:45:18,605 --> 00:45:19,805 And one. 773 00:45:19,844 --> 00:45:21,125 26. 774 00:45:21,165 --> 00:45:22,645 HE SIGHS 775 00:45:37,165 --> 00:45:38,964 '36, and takes the first round. 776 00:45:39,004 --> 00:45:41,524 Right, John, it's only £36, but you really could do with this. 777 00:45:43,085 --> 00:45:45,285 BATHWATER RUNS What are you having a bath for? 778 00:45:46,404 --> 00:45:47,884 I won't be long! 779 00:45:49,004 --> 00:45:51,165 - I could get in with you. - No, John. 780 00:45:52,085 --> 00:45:53,924 - I'm shy. - Shy? 781 00:45:53,964 --> 00:45:55,924 I've seen it all before, you know? 782 00:45:58,685 --> 00:46:01,004 Come on, missus, let me in. 783 00:46:02,685 --> 00:46:04,884 BATHWATER RUNS 784 00:46:10,685 --> 00:46:12,125 Can you pause it there, please? 785 00:46:12,165 --> 00:46:14,285 Rewind a bit. 786 00:46:14,324 --> 00:46:15,484 There. 787 00:46:21,924 --> 00:46:25,044 It may not prove he killed the Dixons. 788 00:46:25,085 --> 00:46:27,245 But it proves what he looked like four weeks before. 789 00:46:37,324 --> 00:46:39,765 PHONE RINGS 790 00:46:39,805 --> 00:46:41,924 WOMAN: 999, which service? 791 00:46:41,964 --> 00:46:43,685 HEAVY BREATHING 792 00:46:43,725 --> 00:46:44,924 WOMAN: Hello? 793 00:46:46,205 --> 00:46:49,964 MUSIC: Suo Gan 58290

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