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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:26,260 --> 00:00:31,465 -When people think about war, they quite often think about 2 00:00:31,465 --> 00:00:37,004 D-Day as being Normandy and Utah Beach because those are 3 00:00:37,004 --> 00:00:39,907 the ones that got the most play in the media. 4 00:00:39,907 --> 00:00:43,944 But there were at least 40 in the Pacific, some of them just 5 00:00:43,944 --> 00:00:45,846 as bad, if not worse, than the 6 00:00:45,846 --> 00:00:48,082 casualties on D-Day in Normandy. 7 00:01:22,783 --> 00:01:24,252 STEPHEN E. AMBROSE : At Pearl Harbor, 8 00:01:24,252 --> 00:01:27,121 on the morning of December 7, it was Sunday morning. 9 00:01:27,121 --> 00:01:30,691 An awful lot of the men had had liberty the night before. 10 00:01:30,691 --> 00:01:32,393 Some of them were up and having breakfast. 11 00:01:32,393 --> 00:01:34,128 Some of them were getting ready to go to church, and 12 00:01:34,128 --> 00:01:37,165 many of them were sleeping it off. 13 00:01:37,165 --> 00:01:40,934 The zeroes coming off of the Japanese carriers began to 14 00:01:40,934 --> 00:01:44,037 appear in Hawaii, and they found us completely 15 00:01:44,037 --> 00:01:45,306 unprepared. 16 00:01:54,982 --> 00:01:56,417 -We just couldn't believe what was happening. 17 00:01:56,417 --> 00:01:58,219 Everything happened so fast. 18 00:01:58,219 --> 00:02:01,322 -I was getting madder by the minute because they were 19 00:02:01,322 --> 00:02:04,692 knocking not only our ships out, but they were knocking 20 00:02:04,692 --> 00:02:07,228 out a major part of our air power. 21 00:02:10,964 --> 00:02:13,934 -We were looking towards the USS Arizona. 22 00:02:13,934 --> 00:02:18,872 And there was this tremendous explosion. 23 00:02:18,872 --> 00:02:21,475 I'd never seen anything like it in my life. 24 00:02:21,475 --> 00:02:23,377 And it was just one big ball of fire. 25 00:02:40,461 --> 00:02:42,162 KEN TAYLOR : was on fire. 26 00:02:42,162 --> 00:02:45,032 Everything looked like it was exploding. 27 00:02:45,032 --> 00:02:47,401 I knew what I was supposed to do, and it was to knock this 28 00:02:47,401 --> 00:02:50,671 plane down in front of me and to get on his tail 29 00:02:50,671 --> 00:02:52,473 and shoot him down. 30 00:02:52,473 --> 00:02:55,309 And I managed to do that. 31 00:02:55,309 --> 00:02:56,610 -You see all of that. 32 00:02:56,610 --> 00:02:59,547 Then, this hate starts to come in. 33 00:02:59,547 --> 00:03:05,185 And dammit, this is war. 34 00:03:05,185 --> 00:03:06,487 This is war. 35 00:03:25,539 --> 00:03:29,743 -We lost 2,400 people at Pearl Harbor, 36 00:03:29,743 --> 00:03:32,846 December the 7th, 1941. 37 00:03:32,846 --> 00:03:36,317 -Everybody wanted revenge, total revenge. 38 00:03:36,317 --> 00:03:37,651 I know I did. 39 00:03:37,651 --> 00:03:41,622 -I wanted to destroy the whole nation of Japan. 40 00:03:41,622 --> 00:03:42,523 I hated them. 41 00:03:42,523 --> 00:03:44,091 Everybody hated them. 42 00:03:44,091 --> 00:03:48,829 -They made the American people so mad that there was never 43 00:03:48,829 --> 00:03:50,664 going to be any compromise in this war. 44 00:03:50,664 --> 00:03:53,367 We're going for unconditional surrender. 45 00:03:53,367 --> 00:03:58,005 -The American people and their righteous might will win 46 00:03:58,005 --> 00:04:00,508 through to an absolute victory. 47 00:04:13,053 --> 00:04:15,823 -We just knew that we were the enemy. 48 00:04:15,823 --> 00:04:19,760 We were considered the enemy because Japan had 49 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:21,028 bombed Pearl Harbor. 50 00:04:21,028 --> 00:04:24,398 I didn't even know where Pearl Harbor was. 51 00:04:24,398 --> 00:04:29,102 My father was born on the 4th of July, and he made sure we 52 00:04:29,102 --> 00:04:31,939 all put the flag out and everything. 53 00:04:31,939 --> 00:04:34,074 We were brought up to be Americans. 54 00:04:34,074 --> 00:04:36,944 -There was a feeling in Pearl Harbor that the Japanese 55 00:04:36,944 --> 00:04:41,549 Americans living in Hawaii had been giving information to the 56 00:04:41,549 --> 00:04:43,283 Japanese forces in Tokyo. 57 00:04:43,283 --> 00:04:46,253 So we're afraid they're going to do this in the West coast. 58 00:04:46,253 --> 00:04:49,890 -But there had been not a single incident 59 00:04:49,890 --> 00:04:52,626 of sabotage or spying. 60 00:04:52,626 --> 00:04:54,094 None of that happened. 61 00:04:54,094 --> 00:04:57,164 -The Japanese Americans from the west coast were interned 62 00:04:57,164 --> 00:05:01,101 into 10 internment camps across the United States. 63 00:05:01,101 --> 00:05:03,637 -We were told that we could only bring what we could 64 00:05:03,637 --> 00:05:09,142 carry, and so most of our things we had to leave behind. 65 00:05:09,142 --> 00:05:12,946 -They were rounded up and put in to camps that they were 66 00:05:12,946 --> 00:05:14,415 guarded in. 67 00:05:14,415 --> 00:05:19,019 -When we arrived and saw the buildings, it was very, very 68 00:05:19,019 --> 00:05:20,087 depressing. 69 00:05:20,087 --> 00:05:21,522 -How would you like to be taken away 70 00:05:21,522 --> 00:05:22,990 without your things? 71 00:05:22,990 --> 00:05:25,058 How would you like to know that people are watching you 72 00:05:25,058 --> 00:05:26,427 all the time? 73 00:05:26,427 --> 00:05:27,928 How would you like to know that your letters are being 74 00:05:27,928 --> 00:05:31,732 read, that you can't communicate with people? 75 00:05:31,732 --> 00:05:33,867 My brother used to put it in this way. 76 00:05:33,867 --> 00:05:37,871 It's like you've been raped by somebody you trusted, and so 77 00:05:37,871 --> 00:05:40,273 you can't talk about it. 78 00:05:40,273 --> 00:05:43,677 And so it was your country that did this to you, and you 79 00:05:43,677 --> 00:05:46,380 couldn't talk about it for years and years and years. 80 00:05:46,380 --> 00:05:49,316 NARRATOR : Young Japanese Americans volunteered 81 00:05:49,316 --> 00:05:52,152 for the armed services of the United States even as their 82 00:05:52,152 --> 00:05:54,655 families were being held in these camps. 83 00:05:54,655 --> 00:05:58,058 -My utmost thought was, they've stripped me of my 84 00:05:58,058 --> 00:06:02,062 citizenship, which was most valuable to me. 85 00:06:02,062 --> 00:06:07,067 And therefore, when they gave me a chance to join the 86 00:06:07,067 --> 00:06:10,303 military, that was my liberation. 87 00:06:10,303 --> 00:06:12,272 That restored my citizenship. 88 00:06:12,272 --> 00:06:15,409 It was one of the happiest moments of my life. 89 00:06:20,581 --> 00:06:23,551 -The little town that I was in, they went en 90 00:06:23,551 --> 00:06:25,486 masse to sign up. 91 00:06:25,486 --> 00:06:28,522 So a lot of the guys that used to hang around the filling 92 00:06:28,522 --> 00:06:30,157 stations weren't hanging around the 93 00:06:30,157 --> 00:06:31,425 filling stations anymore. 94 00:06:31,425 --> 00:06:32,726 They were in the service. 95 00:06:32,726 --> 00:06:35,395 -There was no problem of getting volunteers. 96 00:06:35,395 --> 00:06:36,964 Everybody was willing to go. 97 00:06:36,964 --> 00:06:39,032 They had recruiting lines that were two and 98 00:06:39,032 --> 00:06:40,367 three blocks long. 99 00:06:40,367 --> 00:06:43,637 -All of the services were taking in thousands of 100 00:06:43,637 --> 00:06:45,238 recruits a day. 101 00:06:45,238 --> 00:06:49,543 -Most people who volunteered were-- they could choose Navy, 102 00:06:49,543 --> 00:06:51,411 Marines, Army. 103 00:06:51,411 --> 00:06:53,013 -Well, I liked the Army. 104 00:06:53,013 --> 00:06:56,850 I didn't feel like a sailor, didn't feel like a flyer. 105 00:06:56,850 --> 00:06:59,687 Even Marines, they didn't appeal to me. 106 00:06:59,687 --> 00:07:01,221 Too much PR. 107 00:07:01,221 --> 00:07:05,659 -The Marines had great public relations, and every time 108 00:07:05,659 --> 00:07:07,661 somebody said, well, are you in the Pacific? 109 00:07:07,661 --> 00:07:08,896 I said, yeah. 110 00:07:08,896 --> 00:07:10,130 Oh, Marine? 111 00:07:10,130 --> 00:07:10,931 No. 112 00:07:10,931 --> 00:07:12,833 Navy? 113 00:07:12,833 --> 00:07:13,801 No. 114 00:07:13,801 --> 00:07:14,668 Army. 115 00:07:14,668 --> 00:07:16,770 Oh, were you in the Pacific? 116 00:07:16,770 --> 00:07:19,673 Yeah, damn right I was in the Pacific. 117 00:07:19,673 --> 00:07:21,775 -I went into the United States Navy. 118 00:07:21,775 --> 00:07:22,710 It was segregated. 119 00:07:22,710 --> 00:07:24,311 The Navy was segregated. 120 00:07:24,311 --> 00:07:27,515 At that time, blacks could only be steward's mates. 121 00:07:27,515 --> 00:07:32,119 You waited on the officers and cleaned their rooms, things of 122 00:07:32,119 --> 00:07:33,487 that nature. 123 00:07:33,487 --> 00:07:37,591 -I cannot think of anybody that did not have just one 124 00:07:37,591 --> 00:07:43,330 objective, let's pay them back for this little job 125 00:07:43,330 --> 00:07:44,732 and get it over with. 126 00:07:44,732 --> 00:07:46,834 -There wasn't any question about what we had to do. 127 00:07:46,834 --> 00:07:50,170 We had seen signs in recent months anyway saying 128 00:07:50,170 --> 00:07:51,639 Uncle Sam needs you. 129 00:07:51,639 --> 00:07:54,975 -And now, all of a sudden, America was ranked 16th in the 130 00:07:54,975 --> 00:07:59,813 world in the size of its armed forces, right behind Romania. 131 00:07:59,813 --> 00:08:01,414 Now, we were in the war. 132 00:08:01,414 --> 00:08:05,352 And within a couple of years, the American armed forces were 133 00:08:05,352 --> 00:08:07,555 number one in the world. 134 00:08:07,555 --> 00:08:09,857 -All of the services were going full tilt. 135 00:08:09,857 --> 00:08:13,126 The Coast Guard had expanded tremendously because they had 136 00:08:13,126 --> 00:08:16,196 to guard the whole coast of the United States, and the 137 00:08:16,196 --> 00:08:17,631 rivers as well. 138 00:08:17,631 --> 00:08:21,368 The Navy, of course, had to worry about two wars. 139 00:08:21,368 --> 00:08:23,571 -Well, the war in Europe had been going 140 00:08:23,571 --> 00:08:25,072 on for several years. 141 00:08:25,072 --> 00:08:27,875 But things were happening in the Pacific world with the 142 00:08:27,875 --> 00:08:32,680 Japanese saying that they didn't have any resources, and 143 00:08:32,680 --> 00:08:36,116 they have to enlarge their empire in order to gain the 144 00:08:36,116 --> 00:08:38,752 resources necessary to support their people. 145 00:08:38,752 --> 00:08:41,655 -They were already deeply involved in a war in China 146 00:08:41,655 --> 00:08:45,626 that was a big drain on the Japanese Army. 147 00:08:45,626 --> 00:08:47,728 Korea was already a colony. 148 00:08:47,728 --> 00:08:51,965 They were taking on the whole of the Pacific world. 149 00:09:06,213 --> 00:09:09,116 -Who's going to command the Pacific was a big question for 150 00:09:09,116 --> 00:09:10,550 the Americans. 151 00:09:10,550 --> 00:09:13,053 They decided to divide it. 152 00:09:13,053 --> 00:09:14,788 Douglas MacArthur would command in 153 00:09:14,788 --> 00:09:16,590 the southwest Pacific. 154 00:09:16,590 --> 00:09:18,726 Admiral Chester Nimitz would be in command 155 00:09:18,726 --> 00:09:20,293 in the central Pacific. 156 00:09:20,293 --> 00:09:23,797 And the Americans were now beginning to build. 157 00:09:23,797 --> 00:09:27,434 We had carriers being built at the shipyards. 158 00:09:27,434 --> 00:09:32,105 We had started a draft that brought millions of young men 159 00:09:32,105 --> 00:09:33,206 into the armed forces. 160 00:09:33,206 --> 00:09:34,775 They had to be trained, of course, and 161 00:09:34,775 --> 00:09:35,943 they had to be equipped. 162 00:09:35,943 --> 00:09:38,646 And American was gearing up for war. 163 00:09:52,826 --> 00:09:56,563 -Over the training periods, we developed a lot of camaraderie 164 00:09:56,563 --> 00:09:59,399 with the people that we worked directly with. 165 00:09:59,399 --> 00:10:02,736 -Well, the training first of all put tremendous emphasis on 166 00:10:02,736 --> 00:10:05,005 your physical conditioning. 167 00:10:05,005 --> 00:10:06,807 -Well, it was hard physically. 168 00:10:06,807 --> 00:10:09,209 And they just drilled you constantly. 169 00:10:09,209 --> 00:10:12,012 And here's people when you say rear march, rear march, you've 170 00:10:12,012 --> 00:10:16,016 got one going one way and another one going another way. 171 00:10:16,016 --> 00:10:18,485 -They took us to firing ranges, of course. 172 00:10:18,485 --> 00:10:20,120 They took us to tank training. 173 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:23,090 They even gave us tank training. 174 00:10:23,090 --> 00:10:26,326 -We were taught how to use every weapon that the infantry 175 00:10:26,326 --> 00:10:31,364 has in its force, everything from machine guns, mortars, 176 00:10:31,364 --> 00:10:34,334 rifles, carbines, pistols. 177 00:10:34,334 --> 00:10:37,037 -We of course in the hospital course school learned the 178 00:10:37,037 --> 00:10:39,973 basic physiology and anatomy of the body. 179 00:10:39,973 --> 00:10:42,943 We learned the number of bones and the way they were located 180 00:10:42,943 --> 00:10:46,013 in relation to the rest of the bones, and the knee bone's 181 00:10:46,013 --> 00:10:47,848 connected to the thigh bone, and all that type 182 00:10:47,848 --> 00:10:49,016 of thing, you know. 183 00:10:49,016 --> 00:10:51,518 -Our forces were adequately trained. 184 00:10:51,518 --> 00:10:53,520 There's no question about that in my mind. 185 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:55,222 They were physically well conditioned. 186 00:10:55,222 --> 00:10:58,859 They knew how to use their weapons, team work had been 187 00:10:58,859 --> 00:11:01,661 built into them very, very well. 188 00:11:01,661 --> 00:11:04,998 So I think they were very well trained troops. 189 00:11:04,998 --> 00:11:11,071 -That training did prepare me to do professionally my job. 190 00:11:11,071 --> 00:11:17,510 But it didn't train me to do the biggest job, 191 00:11:17,510 --> 00:11:20,513 that is not be afraid. 192 00:11:20,513 --> 00:11:23,350 And I was scared to death, I'll tell you. 193 00:11:27,154 --> 00:11:32,325 -Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto was the top admiral in the 194 00:11:32,325 --> 00:11:37,097 Japanese Navy responsible for laying out the strategy of how 195 00:11:37,097 --> 00:11:38,398 to win the war. 196 00:11:38,398 --> 00:11:39,867 STEPHEN E. AMBROSE : What Yamamoto had 197 00:11:39,867 --> 00:11:41,501 thought would happen, the Americans will be 198 00:11:41,501 --> 00:11:44,637 disheartened, and they will negotiate. 199 00:11:44,637 --> 00:11:48,108 That all came crashing down as the American 200 00:11:48,108 --> 00:11:49,376 people went to work. 201 00:11:57,751 --> 00:12:00,821 -The whole country went to war. 202 00:12:00,821 --> 00:12:04,357 They built red cross bandages, sorted button. 203 00:12:04,357 --> 00:12:08,461 -You wanted to be a part of the war effort because they 204 00:12:08,461 --> 00:12:10,163 had attacked us. 205 00:12:10,163 --> 00:12:14,167 -The force at home turned out ships, planes, and bullets in 206 00:12:14,167 --> 00:12:15,702 record numbers. 207 00:12:15,702 --> 00:12:18,438 -Women, this is the first time women wholesalely had come out 208 00:12:18,438 --> 00:12:20,240 of their homes and gone to work. 209 00:12:23,743 --> 00:12:25,913 -My wife was a welder. 210 00:12:25,913 --> 00:12:29,416 And she worked in the bottom of the ship 40 feet down. 211 00:12:29,416 --> 00:12:35,488 -We built 741 ships, and we built once every four days. 212 00:12:35,488 --> 00:12:36,957 We sent them out to sea. 213 00:12:36,957 --> 00:12:39,292 We felt like we were building the ships to bring our 214 00:12:39,292 --> 00:12:41,594 husbands home in. 215 00:12:41,594 --> 00:12:43,563 We wanted to go to work. 216 00:12:43,563 --> 00:12:45,866 We wanted to help to win the war. 217 00:12:52,739 --> 00:12:54,975 -One of the most important things that happened is the 218 00:12:54,975 --> 00:12:57,510 building of the landing craft. 219 00:12:57,510 --> 00:13:01,849 You could run it right on in to the beach, drop that ramp. 220 00:13:01,849 --> 00:13:04,818 A platoon of fighting men come out, and they're right there 221 00:13:04,818 --> 00:13:08,055 on the beach, firing immediately when they get off 222 00:13:08,055 --> 00:13:10,557 that Higgins boat, as it was called. 223 00:13:10,557 --> 00:13:12,592 -They made nothing except war stuff. 224 00:13:12,592 --> 00:13:14,027 Whatever you had, that's it. 225 00:13:14,027 --> 00:13:16,096 And you didn't get any more until the war was over. 226 00:13:16,096 --> 00:13:17,264 -You can't get butter. 227 00:13:17,264 --> 00:13:19,632 You can't get sugar. 228 00:13:19,632 --> 00:13:22,235 It was very difficult getting any new shoes. 229 00:13:22,235 --> 00:13:23,803 -The tires were rationed. 230 00:13:23,803 --> 00:13:25,105 Gas was rationed. 231 00:13:25,105 --> 00:13:27,607 You were only allowed so much gas a month. 232 00:13:27,607 --> 00:13:29,576 And we all worked with it. 233 00:13:29,576 --> 00:13:35,348 -Everybody was sacrificing to make this military that could 234 00:13:35,348 --> 00:13:39,052 undertake an offensive in both theaters, and we did. 235 00:13:52,032 --> 00:13:54,868 -The Philippines was a complete loss to us because 236 00:13:54,868 --> 00:13:59,172 this was one of the chain of islands that was key to us in 237 00:13:59,172 --> 00:14:00,773 the Pacific. 238 00:14:00,773 --> 00:14:02,309 -We lost the Philippines. 239 00:14:02,309 --> 00:14:05,212 They overran Bataan, and then they took Corregidor, and then 240 00:14:05,212 --> 00:14:06,613 the Bataan Death March. 241 00:14:06,613 --> 00:14:08,381 We lost Guam. 242 00:14:08,381 --> 00:14:10,817 Everything was lost. 243 00:14:10,817 --> 00:14:15,522 And then came the Dolittle raid that bombed Tokyo. 244 00:14:15,522 --> 00:14:18,858 -Jimmy Dolittle was appointed to head the raid, and he was 245 00:14:18,858 --> 00:14:20,760 definitely the man for it. 246 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:21,962 We took off at about 8 o'clock. 247 00:14:21,962 --> 00:14:25,232 We arrived at the target about 12:30. 248 00:14:25,232 --> 00:14:28,168 We had stopped in right on top of the water, and then pulled 249 00:14:28,168 --> 00:14:31,271 up to our bombing altitude of 1,800 feet. 250 00:14:31,271 --> 00:14:35,042 And if you're dropping bombs at 1,800 feet, you just can't 251 00:14:35,042 --> 00:14:37,277 miss, period. 252 00:14:37,277 --> 00:14:40,680 It was the first raid on Japan, and it did give the 253 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:43,183 United States a shot in the arm. 254 00:14:43,183 --> 00:14:45,852 -It didn't do much damage to the Japanese. 255 00:14:45,852 --> 00:14:47,754 It wasn't a big operation. 256 00:14:47,754 --> 00:14:50,757 But it lifted spirits across America. 257 00:14:53,994 --> 00:14:55,795 -Perhaps the biggest decision in the 258 00:14:55,795 --> 00:14:58,431 Pacific was island hopping. 259 00:14:58,431 --> 00:15:02,702 -We weren't strong enough yet to be able to go directly to 260 00:15:02,702 --> 00:15:06,306 Japan and leave all these islands out in the Pacific. 261 00:15:06,306 --> 00:15:11,644 So the islands in the Pacific, we island hopped just as you 262 00:15:11,644 --> 00:15:13,446 would cross a stream. 263 00:15:13,446 --> 00:15:14,814 And there's a whole bunch of rocks. 264 00:15:14,814 --> 00:15:17,484 And you jump from rock to rock to rock to get 265 00:15:17,484 --> 00:15:19,352 to the other side. 266 00:15:19,352 --> 00:15:23,723 -And eventually, get close enough to Japan to launch our 267 00:15:23,723 --> 00:15:26,293 aircraft to bomb Japan. 268 00:15:26,293 --> 00:15:30,797 -It was a strategic decision that guided the whole war in 269 00:15:30,797 --> 00:15:34,767 the Pacific and was one of the best decisions that were made. 270 00:15:44,811 --> 00:15:47,847 -When we were aboard ship, there was a lot of hours where 271 00:15:47,847 --> 00:15:49,549 there's not much to do. 272 00:15:49,549 --> 00:15:51,084 -It was a long time on the ship. 273 00:15:51,084 --> 00:15:53,553 You'd lay out on the deck in the day time, and we had some 274 00:15:53,553 --> 00:15:55,555 fun and games. 275 00:15:55,555 --> 00:15:57,624 -It mostly was boredom. 276 00:15:57,624 --> 00:16:01,428 You got up, ate, worked, and went to bed. 277 00:16:01,428 --> 00:16:04,597 -The problems of keeping troops that are aboard ship 278 00:16:04,597 --> 00:16:07,867 and don't have room to run, so you run in place. 279 00:16:07,867 --> 00:16:11,138 Then, you give them physical exercises. 280 00:16:11,138 --> 00:16:16,209 -We didn't know where we were going until about maybe two 281 00:16:16,209 --> 00:16:17,777 weeks out at sea. 282 00:16:17,777 --> 00:16:21,981 -After we got out, out at sea, they start to brief us as to 283 00:16:21,981 --> 00:16:24,951 what our mission was and where we were going. 284 00:16:24,951 --> 00:16:27,487 -People had all kinds of thoughts about what might 285 00:16:27,487 --> 00:16:29,322 happen, actually. 286 00:16:29,322 --> 00:16:31,824 There was a great deal of praying. 287 00:16:31,824 --> 00:16:34,461 A lot of people soul searching, and the 288 00:16:34,461 --> 00:16:39,032 anticipation of battle never having been in it before and 289 00:16:39,032 --> 00:16:41,201 wondering exactly what they were getting into. 290 00:16:52,179 --> 00:16:56,816 -In order to make an invasion work, the Navy's job is to go 291 00:16:56,816 --> 00:17:00,019 in before the invasion and soften up the beach. 292 00:17:04,057 --> 00:17:07,960 You destroy everything, all of the enemy on that beach. 293 00:17:11,898 --> 00:17:15,935 And the planes are bombing, and everybody is doing the 294 00:17:15,935 --> 00:17:19,606 best they can to make sure there's not a soldier alive of 295 00:17:19,606 --> 00:17:21,241 the enemy when we get there. 296 00:17:30,183 --> 00:17:33,920 -The night before D-Day, we were very nervous. 297 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:35,622 There was a lot of bombardment. 298 00:17:35,622 --> 00:17:39,526 And I looked around and I said, are you scared? 299 00:17:39,526 --> 00:17:41,461 You're damn right I'm scared. 300 00:17:41,461 --> 00:17:43,696 And I said, who the hell isn't scared? 301 00:17:43,696 --> 00:17:45,732 He said, if you're not scared, you're not human. 302 00:17:51,704 --> 00:17:54,341 -I remember waking up at dawn, and all of a 303 00:17:54,341 --> 00:17:57,043 sudden, this is for real. 304 00:17:57,043 --> 00:18:00,313 -About 5 o'clock in the morning after little sleep if 305 00:18:00,313 --> 00:18:04,817 any, we had charcoal, and we had steak and eggs. 306 00:18:04,817 --> 00:18:09,689 -That's the only time ever in all the times I spent overseas 307 00:18:09,689 --> 00:18:12,259 that I got steak and eggs for breakfast. 308 00:18:12,259 --> 00:18:16,196 -And it was a very eerie experience of having breakfast 309 00:18:16,196 --> 00:18:19,666 in civilized fashion, then realizing that day we were 310 00:18:19,666 --> 00:18:20,567 going to shore. 311 00:18:20,567 --> 00:18:23,136 We might all be killed. 312 00:18:23,136 --> 00:18:28,441 -We began at about 6:00 AM getting ready for the assault. 313 00:18:28,441 --> 00:18:31,911 -Well, we clambered down these cargo nets. 314 00:18:31,911 --> 00:18:35,882 And I was nervous with all this gear. 315 00:18:35,882 --> 00:18:38,885 -One thing they did not tell us, by the way, that boat can 316 00:18:38,885 --> 00:18:40,420 come up under you very quickly. 317 00:18:40,420 --> 00:18:42,989 -Coming down, you've got to hit that just right, or you're 318 00:18:42,989 --> 00:18:45,525 going to knock your knees out, you know? 319 00:18:45,525 --> 00:18:47,460 -In fact, we had one boy break a leg. 320 00:18:50,197 --> 00:18:53,566 -We started rendevousing out in the ocean area probably 321 00:18:53,566 --> 00:18:56,169 about four miles off of the beach. 322 00:18:56,169 --> 00:18:59,306 -The circles broke and formed parallel lines. 323 00:18:59,306 --> 00:19:00,607 And we were moving in. 324 00:19:00,607 --> 00:19:05,978 And D-Day in the H-hour was there with us. 325 00:19:05,978 --> 00:19:10,116 -There were over 100 D-Days in the Pacific, on big islands, 326 00:19:10,116 --> 00:19:12,018 on small islands. 327 00:19:12,018 --> 00:19:16,556 But always, the objective was to begin the process of taking 328 00:19:16,556 --> 00:19:19,192 that island. 329 00:19:19,192 --> 00:19:24,431 -As we approached the beach, I could feel a real tenseness in 330 00:19:24,431 --> 00:19:26,533 everyone aboard that craft. 331 00:19:26,533 --> 00:19:28,000 It was complete quiet. 332 00:19:30,403 --> 00:19:31,938 HAL NUERNBERG : While you're going towards the 333 00:19:31,938 --> 00:19:35,875 beach, you're doing an awful lot of praying. 334 00:19:35,875 --> 00:19:39,412 And some of the guys got a little sick. 335 00:19:39,412 --> 00:19:41,147 I watched the guys around me. 336 00:19:41,147 --> 00:19:42,249 They were scared. 337 00:19:42,249 --> 00:19:43,750 I was scared. 338 00:19:43,750 --> 00:19:46,085 I don't think we had any reason to be otherwise. 339 00:19:46,085 --> 00:19:48,221 -You don't know what's waiting for you. 340 00:19:48,221 --> 00:19:50,022 They could wait and hang out on the beach and 341 00:19:50,022 --> 00:19:51,090 cut loose on you. 342 00:19:51,090 --> 00:19:52,992 They could start firing right away. 343 00:19:52,992 --> 00:19:54,461 Anything like that, you don't know. 344 00:19:57,897 --> 00:20:01,801 -When we were getting close to the beach, then you begin to 345 00:20:01,801 --> 00:20:04,337 feel my god, this is real. 346 00:20:04,337 --> 00:20:08,941 And then, as soon as they dropped that ramp, and you're 347 00:20:08,941 --> 00:20:11,411 exposed, you feel like you're the nakedest 348 00:20:11,411 --> 00:20:12,912 person in the world. 349 00:20:12,912 --> 00:20:15,348 And you knew darn well that they're going to start the 350 00:20:15,348 --> 00:20:18,150 shooting, which they do. 351 00:20:18,150 --> 00:20:20,119 -Very soon after that, all hell broke 352 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:21,654 loose on the island. 353 00:20:21,654 --> 00:20:24,223 -There was a tremendous volume of fire coming from all those 354 00:20:24,223 --> 00:20:26,225 defensive positions. 355 00:20:26,225 --> 00:20:28,595 -And I had never seen anything like this in my 356 00:20:28,595 --> 00:20:30,830 life, absolute hell. 357 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:37,337 -There were about 600, 800 ships out here, and I was on 358 00:20:37,337 --> 00:20:38,871 one of them. 359 00:20:38,871 --> 00:20:40,807 We took landing craft and came into the reef, and on the 360 00:20:40,807 --> 00:20:43,843 other side of the reef, we changed from the landing craft 361 00:20:43,843 --> 00:20:45,512 to the amphibious tractors. 362 00:20:45,512 --> 00:20:48,848 And the reason for that was in here, in the lagoon as you can 363 00:20:48,848 --> 00:20:50,750 see, the water is so shallow we couldn't get 364 00:20:50,750 --> 00:20:52,218 landing craft in here. 365 00:20:52,218 --> 00:20:55,788 -So we went over the side in about three feet of water. 366 00:20:55,788 --> 00:20:58,024 I had 100 pounds on my back. 367 00:20:58,024 --> 00:21:02,261 A flame thrower, a bed roll, all of my ammunition, and I 368 00:21:02,261 --> 00:21:06,833 can remember distinctly sinking into the sand a good 369 00:21:06,833 --> 00:21:09,268 four or five inches as I crossed the beach. 370 00:21:14,807 --> 00:21:16,809 -It was a bloody mess out on that beach, people getting 371 00:21:16,809 --> 00:21:18,244 blown all to pieces. 372 00:21:18,244 --> 00:21:21,348 -The beach was full of bodies, just full of bodies. 373 00:21:21,348 --> 00:21:24,684 -Chaos, and absolutely it looked like the biggest 374 00:21:24,684 --> 00:21:25,585 junkyard in the world. 375 00:21:25,585 --> 00:21:26,786 -Chaos. 376 00:21:26,786 --> 00:21:28,655 There's bombs being dropped. 377 00:21:28,655 --> 00:21:31,123 There's shells being fired. 378 00:21:31,123 --> 00:21:32,291 -It was chaos. 379 00:21:32,291 --> 00:21:34,193 There were just hundreds of people moving. 380 00:21:34,193 --> 00:21:36,763 And the people behind us-- and one reason we had to get off 381 00:21:36,763 --> 00:21:39,198 the beach was because there were people behind us just 382 00:21:39,198 --> 00:21:42,068 coming, just one right after the other, group after group. 383 00:21:42,068 --> 00:21:45,104 -Boats from the prior landing turned upside down. 384 00:21:45,104 --> 00:21:47,940 There were bodies floating out into the water. 385 00:21:47,940 --> 00:21:50,843 -I had never seen a dead person even in a funeral. 386 00:21:50,843 --> 00:21:54,246 And as I hit the beach, I saw bodies and body parts 387 00:21:54,246 --> 00:21:55,415 all over the beach. 388 00:21:55,415 --> 00:21:57,149 -We started to go up the sand there. 389 00:21:57,149 --> 00:22:00,186 And we'd go up two feet, and fall back one. 390 00:22:00,186 --> 00:22:01,521 And we were just laying on the beach. 391 00:22:01,521 --> 00:22:04,557 And there were bodies all over. 392 00:22:04,557 --> 00:22:05,858 -Guys were dying. 393 00:22:05,858 --> 00:22:07,427 Every way you could see, somebody was dying. 394 00:22:07,427 --> 00:22:09,896 -We went across the beach as quickly as we could because 395 00:22:09,896 --> 00:22:13,099 the beach was being raked with 88s, machine guns. 396 00:22:13,099 --> 00:22:15,668 And of course, there was a lot of sniper fire as well. 397 00:22:15,668 --> 00:22:17,336 -You've only got one way to deal with it. 398 00:22:17,336 --> 00:22:19,038 You're looking for a place to get down and get some cover 399 00:22:19,038 --> 00:22:22,409 for your body by jumping into a hole or you dig one. 400 00:22:22,409 --> 00:22:24,677 And that's hard because that sand floats back in as soon as 401 00:22:24,677 --> 00:22:25,712 you shovel it. 402 00:22:25,712 --> 00:22:27,346 It's coming back in. 403 00:22:27,346 --> 00:22:30,917 -About this time, a young marine, I'd estimate maybe 17 404 00:22:30,917 --> 00:22:35,087 years old, he was running by. 405 00:22:35,087 --> 00:22:41,594 And a sniper shot him in the head right above his left eye. 406 00:22:41,594 --> 00:22:43,029 He was dead. 407 00:22:43,029 --> 00:22:51,604 And I looked at him, and he had blood running down. 408 00:22:51,604 --> 00:22:53,072 And-- 409 00:22:57,710 --> 00:23:02,248 then, it slipped out. 410 00:23:06,352 --> 00:23:07,554 I didn't know this kid. 411 00:23:07,554 --> 00:23:11,924 And I still remember him today. 412 00:23:18,230 --> 00:23:21,133 -Once we got in combat, I don't believe any of us had 413 00:23:21,133 --> 00:23:23,603 any difficulty in doing what we had to do. 414 00:23:23,603 --> 00:23:25,237 I certainly didn't. 415 00:23:25,237 --> 00:23:28,975 -The only thing that we wanted to see the Japanese was dead. 416 00:23:28,975 --> 00:23:32,011 -Oh, it was nice to see the first Jap I was going to kill. 417 00:23:32,011 --> 00:23:33,813 That's what I went there for. 418 00:23:33,813 --> 00:23:36,315 -It was very easy to shoot a Jap, believe me. 419 00:23:36,315 --> 00:23:41,087 -I don't care if it had been a woman, child, baby. 420 00:23:41,087 --> 00:23:42,321 I could shoot. 421 00:23:42,321 --> 00:23:47,560 -I wanted to destroy the whole nation of Japan. 422 00:24:36,342 --> 00:24:40,513 -We were immediately up against these reinforced block 423 00:24:40,513 --> 00:24:45,351 house bunkers that were reinforced concrete. 424 00:24:45,351 --> 00:24:48,855 They were extremely formidable defensive positions. 425 00:24:48,855 --> 00:24:55,562 -Now, this was for an anti-tank, anti-boat 47 426 00:24:55,562 --> 00:24:56,729 millimeter. 427 00:24:56,729 --> 00:24:58,430 It's obviously been hit quite a bit. 428 00:24:58,430 --> 00:25:01,133 -Against this kind of block house and other locations, 429 00:25:01,133 --> 00:25:03,703 flame thrower was our most effective weapon. 430 00:25:03,703 --> 00:25:08,307 The flame thrower not only burned them up, but if it 431 00:25:08,307 --> 00:25:11,811 didn't, it sucked all the oxygen out, and they died 432 00:25:11,811 --> 00:25:13,412 instantly of suffocation. 433 00:25:13,412 --> 00:25:14,881 There wasn't any way to breathe. 434 00:25:17,349 --> 00:25:21,788 -However, it was used directly on the enemy as well at times 435 00:25:21,788 --> 00:25:25,524 because they would run out of there, partly on fire, and if 436 00:25:25,524 --> 00:25:27,193 you had any more left, you certainly 437 00:25:27,193 --> 00:25:29,662 would use the charge. 438 00:25:29,662 --> 00:25:32,131 It was a very brutal way to go, believe me. 439 00:25:35,167 --> 00:25:38,705 -Well, this looked altogether different than it is now. 440 00:25:38,705 --> 00:25:42,208 And most everything was scorched earth. 441 00:25:42,208 --> 00:25:46,779 We used so much napalm and burnt the grass and the trees. 442 00:25:46,779 --> 00:25:48,380 -Did you volunteer to be a flame thrower? 443 00:25:48,380 --> 00:25:51,483 -Yes, yes, that's the only way you could be a flame thrower. 444 00:25:51,483 --> 00:25:52,785 Crazy, but that's the only way. 445 00:25:54,954 --> 00:25:55,788 22? 446 00:25:55,788 --> 00:25:57,857 -I was 22 years old, yes. 447 00:26:23,883 --> 00:26:27,019 -So it was not a comfortable position for them, and water 448 00:26:27,019 --> 00:26:30,056 was in great demand, but they had very little of it. 449 00:26:30,056 --> 00:26:33,793 And a number of the defenders died of thirst. 450 00:26:46,873 --> 00:26:50,877 -The engineers would come up a seal a cave, put a big charge 451 00:26:50,877 --> 00:26:55,648 on top, and shoot it down and cause it to 452 00:26:55,648 --> 00:26:56,816 completely close off. 453 00:26:56,816 --> 00:26:58,184 And if there's anybody in there, they 454 00:26:58,184 --> 00:26:59,451 were trapped in there. 455 00:27:02,021 --> 00:27:04,556 -The branch of the American military service I was in is 456 00:27:04,556 --> 00:27:07,927 called MIS, Military Intelligence Service. 457 00:27:07,927 --> 00:27:11,297 -The main thing was to translate military orders or 458 00:27:11,297 --> 00:27:15,301 diaries or what have you and interrogate prisoners. 459 00:27:15,301 --> 00:27:18,771 -They were very careful not to put us in harm's way because 460 00:27:18,771 --> 00:27:22,208 we could have been shot by our own men. 461 00:27:22,208 --> 00:27:26,846 Some people have asked me how we felt fighting the Japanese. 462 00:27:26,846 --> 00:27:30,482 I'm not sure what I would have done if I had come face to 463 00:27:30,482 --> 00:27:33,986 face with my uncle, whom I loved dearly. 464 00:27:33,986 --> 00:27:37,757 But to me, I was not fighting the Japanese people. 465 00:27:37,757 --> 00:27:41,060 I was fighting the Japanese military government which 466 00:27:41,060 --> 00:27:42,328 started the war. 467 00:27:47,466 --> 00:27:52,038 -During the assault, the tanks were able to roam at will and 468 00:27:52,038 --> 00:27:55,307 not really be in any danger unless a Jap got some kind of 469 00:27:55,307 --> 00:27:56,909 a charge on back. 470 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:10,389 -The Japanese would do anything to destroy a tank, 471 00:28:10,389 --> 00:28:14,226 including putting the demolitions on their body and 472 00:28:14,226 --> 00:28:15,694 crawling under the tank. 473 00:28:17,730 --> 00:28:20,099 -They had a lot of man and booby traps set 474 00:28:20,099 --> 00:28:22,701 up, Bouncing Bettys. 475 00:28:22,701 --> 00:28:25,104 So you had to watch where you were stepping. 476 00:28:25,104 --> 00:28:28,174 -The wires on a booby trap, you can't see it, looks just 477 00:28:28,174 --> 00:28:29,408 like a piece of grass. 478 00:28:29,408 --> 00:28:30,743 And when you kick it, it pulls a pin. 479 00:28:30,743 --> 00:28:34,113 Boom, you have a casualty or two. 480 00:28:42,021 --> 00:28:45,091 -The wounds themselves were horrid. 481 00:28:45,091 --> 00:28:47,827 People blown all to pieces, arms and legs 482 00:28:47,827 --> 00:28:50,029 all over the place. 483 00:28:50,029 --> 00:28:53,199 -My specialty in the Pacific was being a corpsman to the 484 00:28:53,199 --> 00:28:55,734 Marines who became wounded. 485 00:28:55,734 --> 00:28:58,270 -The corpsmen were the Navy individuals who were trained 486 00:28:58,270 --> 00:29:01,507 to apply first aid when needed to the wounded. 487 00:29:01,507 --> 00:29:03,042 -They were the greatest bunch of guys you 488 00:29:03,042 --> 00:29:03,976 ever saw in your life. 489 00:29:03,976 --> 00:29:05,912 I mean, you talk about bravery-- 490 00:29:05,912 --> 00:29:08,014 if it hadn't been for those guys, a lot of us wouldn't 491 00:29:08,014 --> 00:29:09,115 have even come back. 492 00:29:09,115 --> 00:29:11,250 -They were like a priest or a minister. 493 00:29:11,250 --> 00:29:12,584 They consoled you. 494 00:29:12,584 --> 00:29:14,553 Yeah, I know it hurts, but oh damn, just 495 00:29:14,553 --> 00:29:16,022 think if it was worse. 496 00:29:20,026 --> 00:29:23,129 -But that's part of our duty, to try to keep the guys as 497 00:29:23,129 --> 00:29:26,198 alive as possible for as long as possible and get them back 498 00:29:26,198 --> 00:29:27,433 as quick as possible. 499 00:29:41,647 --> 00:29:44,984 -I was called in by my lieutenant commander one day. 500 00:29:44,984 --> 00:29:48,921 She said from 20 forward naval bases in the United States, 501 00:29:48,921 --> 00:29:54,226 they're choosing 24 girls, one from each base, to form the 502 00:29:54,226 --> 00:29:55,594 Navy flight nurses. 503 00:29:55,594 --> 00:29:58,497 And would you consider if you would be chosen? 504 00:29:58,497 --> 00:30:02,935 And I said, I have to call my mother! 505 00:30:02,935 --> 00:30:06,939 -We were to fly on the airplane and bring back the 506 00:30:06,939 --> 00:30:09,808 badly wounded passengers. 507 00:30:09,808 --> 00:30:13,279 -I had no idea what I was getting myself into, really. 508 00:30:13,279 --> 00:30:17,216 I had no idea that I was going to see what I saw. 509 00:30:17,216 --> 00:30:21,888 -It was quite an eye opener because the ground was shaking 510 00:30:21,888 --> 00:30:24,156 from bombs that were going off. 511 00:30:24,156 --> 00:30:25,925 -It was just a mess. 512 00:30:25,925 --> 00:30:29,728 All I can say is you saw blood, and the odor. 513 00:30:29,728 --> 00:30:33,199 There was a smell of war, really. 514 00:30:33,199 --> 00:30:39,271 -And when I looked over and I saw the boys on the ground, I 515 00:30:39,271 --> 00:30:42,708 figured, oh, remind all these side effects here. 516 00:30:42,708 --> 00:30:45,444 Pay attention to these boys. 517 00:30:45,444 --> 00:30:48,080 And I couldn't wait to get them out of there because I 518 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:51,217 wanted to get out of there, too. 519 00:30:51,217 --> 00:30:55,621 -We were always talking to them, holding their hand. 520 00:30:55,621 --> 00:30:57,756 -Some had their eyes closed because they did 521 00:30:57,756 --> 00:30:59,291 have a lot of pain. 522 00:30:59,291 --> 00:31:02,294 Some were just keeping eyes closed and praying they were 523 00:31:02,294 --> 00:31:03,762 going to get out of there. 524 00:31:08,834 --> 00:31:13,072 There was a patient from Iwo Jima I had on my airplane. 525 00:31:13,072 --> 00:31:16,808 He asked me if I would take a small bottle of 526 00:31:16,808 --> 00:31:19,745 sand from Iwo Jima. 527 00:31:19,745 --> 00:31:21,713 And I said, oh, you keep them. 528 00:31:21,713 --> 00:31:22,881 He said, no. 529 00:31:22,881 --> 00:31:24,683 He said, I'm not going to make it. 530 00:31:24,683 --> 00:31:30,722 He said, and I want you to tell the people never forget 531 00:31:30,722 --> 00:31:34,326 what we did here and what we went through. 532 00:31:34,326 --> 00:31:35,794 And he didn't make it. 533 00:31:39,365 --> 00:31:41,067 -I was checking this one boy. 534 00:31:41,067 --> 00:31:43,869 And I saw tears coming down his face. 535 00:31:43,869 --> 00:31:46,105 I said, am I hurting you? 536 00:31:46,105 --> 00:31:47,439 And he said, no. 537 00:31:47,439 --> 00:31:52,444 He said, I'm just thinking about all the people I killed. 538 00:31:52,444 --> 00:31:55,047 That's what he said to me. 539 00:32:06,158 --> 00:32:09,361 -I wrote my mother a letter practically every day. 540 00:32:09,361 --> 00:32:12,131 I just tell her the every day things that I did. 541 00:32:12,131 --> 00:32:13,465 I took a shower today. 542 00:32:13,465 --> 00:32:16,902 We did this, or we did that, and so forth and so on. 543 00:32:16,902 --> 00:32:19,405 They had to walk a long ways to get to the mailbox. 544 00:32:19,405 --> 00:32:22,674 And I didn't want them to go to the mailbox and nothing, 545 00:32:22,674 --> 00:32:25,311 they didn't get anything. 546 00:32:25,311 --> 00:32:27,746 -Everybody was glad for the mail to arrive, but yet there 547 00:32:27,746 --> 00:32:31,350 was a fear, afraid you would get the telegram. 548 00:32:31,350 --> 00:32:35,254 My sister received a telegram that her husband was killed. 549 00:32:35,254 --> 00:32:38,224 And they had a little boy ride a bicycle and bring the 550 00:32:38,224 --> 00:32:39,958 telegram to her. 551 00:32:39,958 --> 00:32:44,196 And my sister just passed out from shock. 552 00:32:44,196 --> 00:32:47,366 But when we got a letter that they were well and they were 553 00:32:47,366 --> 00:32:49,768 still alive, what a great joy. 554 00:32:52,071 --> 00:32:55,107 -Back home you kept up with the war through the newsreels 555 00:32:55,107 --> 00:32:57,543 that preceded the main feature at the local theater. 556 00:32:57,543 --> 00:32:59,978 ANNOUNCER : --the first offensive drive to hurl 557 00:32:59,978 --> 00:33:02,181 the Jap enemy from conquered lands. 558 00:33:02,181 --> 00:33:05,284 -We would go to the Sunday movies to see what was going 559 00:33:05,284 --> 00:33:06,685 on overseas. 560 00:33:06,685 --> 00:33:10,056 I'd always look to see if I could find him on the 561 00:33:10,056 --> 00:33:11,523 battlefield. 562 00:33:11,523 --> 00:33:15,727 -And you saw cartoons, and the racial hatred against the 563 00:33:15,727 --> 00:33:20,066 Japanese had no bounds to it. 564 00:33:20,066 --> 00:33:21,400 -Ow! 565 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:25,471 -The big buck teeth and the slant eyes were a common 566 00:33:25,471 --> 00:33:28,740 feature of all these propaganda films. 567 00:33:28,740 --> 00:33:32,478 And the American people were propagandized into hating 568 00:33:32,478 --> 00:33:34,213 everything that was Japanese. 569 00:33:34,213 --> 00:33:38,084 -You were enjoying a crumb. 570 00:33:48,660 --> 00:33:51,663 -The Japanese told the Okinawans that we would rape 571 00:33:51,663 --> 00:33:54,633 and murder every one of them. 572 00:33:54,633 --> 00:34:00,172 So they committed mass suicide off the cliffs. 573 00:34:00,172 --> 00:34:02,674 -Just as in Saipan, the Japanese civilians threw 574 00:34:02,674 --> 00:34:04,210 themselves off of a cliff. 575 00:34:06,878 --> 00:34:09,981 Women took their infants and threw them into the sea. 576 00:35:54,986 --> 00:35:58,624 -The Okinawans fared a helluva lot worse from the Japanese, 577 00:35:58,624 --> 00:36:00,058 really, than they did from us. 578 00:36:00,058 --> 00:36:02,027 Because we weren't out to rape and murder. 579 00:36:02,027 --> 00:36:04,996 All we were out to do was to get the Japanese soldiers that 580 00:36:04,996 --> 00:36:06,265 were there. 581 00:36:21,112 --> 00:36:29,321 -I think the Japanese soldier was mean, treacherous, tricky, 582 00:36:29,321 --> 00:36:36,295 and according to American standards, he wasn't a real 583 00:36:36,295 --> 00:36:38,464 good person. 584 00:36:38,464 --> 00:36:41,933 He might have been a tough soldiers, but he did things 585 00:36:41,933 --> 00:36:45,304 Americans wouldn't do at first. 586 00:36:45,304 --> 00:36:47,306 But we learned to. 587 00:36:47,306 --> 00:36:50,876 We learned to be just as tricky and dirty as he was. 588 00:36:50,876 --> 00:36:55,981 -Many Japanese were shot running away from us because 589 00:36:55,981 --> 00:36:58,650 we didn't mind shooting them in the back, either. 590 00:36:58,650 --> 00:37:03,722 At that point in time, it was dog-eat-dog. 591 00:37:13,832 --> 00:37:18,337 -The Japanese relied, as their number one weapon, the 592 00:37:18,337 --> 00:37:23,008 willingness of the men in the armed forces in Japan. 593 00:37:23,008 --> 00:37:25,477 Every one of them was willing to give up his 594 00:37:25,477 --> 00:37:29,381 life for the emperor. 595 00:39:15,153 --> 00:39:19,190 -A suicide plane hit my gun turret and exploded, killing 596 00:39:19,190 --> 00:39:22,127 10 of the 20. 597 00:39:22,127 --> 00:39:23,562 We had shot his wing off. 598 00:39:23,562 --> 00:39:25,564 We shot his tail off. 599 00:39:25,564 --> 00:39:27,966 They were just like a bomb coming. 600 00:39:27,966 --> 00:39:31,403 My buddy was trapped in the third gun burning to death. 601 00:39:31,403 --> 00:39:33,405 And I tried to get him out. 602 00:39:33,405 --> 00:39:35,774 Then, there was an explosion. 603 00:39:35,774 --> 00:39:38,744 I fell backward and fell over into the fire, and Dick came 604 00:39:38,744 --> 00:39:41,212 right in and got me. 605 00:39:41,212 --> 00:39:45,884 -To the Americans, a kamikaze was unbelievable. 606 00:39:45,884 --> 00:39:47,986 These guys were willing to give up their lives. 607 00:39:47,986 --> 00:39:51,222 Now, the Americans were, too, and many did. 608 00:39:51,222 --> 00:39:54,626 The American soldiers would go out on patrols that were 609 00:39:54,626 --> 00:39:56,695 pretty clearly suicidal. 610 00:39:56,695 --> 00:39:58,697 But they weren't anything remotely like 611 00:39:58,697 --> 00:40:00,165 those kamikaze attacks. 612 00:40:10,241 --> 00:40:13,612 -The conditions on the islands varied because the islands 613 00:40:13,612 --> 00:40:15,180 were so varied. 614 00:40:15,180 --> 00:40:18,283 Some of them jungley, and some of them almost desert like. 615 00:40:18,283 --> 00:40:21,720 With all these mosquitoes coming down, bringing malaria, 616 00:40:21,720 --> 00:40:23,121 with floods-- 617 00:40:23,121 --> 00:40:26,157 I mean, the rain came, and it came, and it came. 618 00:40:26,157 --> 00:40:28,560 -We didn't get no bath or anything like that, but the 619 00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:30,962 monsoon rains were sometimes a blessing. 620 00:40:30,962 --> 00:40:34,065 We could do a little bathing and catch water in the 621 00:40:34,065 --> 00:40:35,400 helmet and so on. 622 00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:37,869 -Where we were was very inhospitable because of the 623 00:40:37,869 --> 00:40:40,872 vines, the brush, and stuff like that. 624 00:40:40,872 --> 00:40:44,676 But all the coconut trees were planted row on row on row. 625 00:40:44,676 --> 00:40:47,345 That was very, very pretty to see that. 626 00:41:47,973 --> 00:41:50,709 -Bob Hope and the USO would come into these islands. 627 00:41:51,610 --> 00:41:52,310 -Fishing. 628 00:41:52,944 --> 00:41:53,845 -Yeah. 629 00:41:54,546 --> 00:41:55,280 . 630 00:41:56,848 --> 00:42:01,219 -What it meant to the men was they do remember us back in 631 00:42:01,219 --> 00:42:02,487 the states. 632 00:42:04,656 --> 00:42:06,291 They weren't forgotten. 633 00:42:24,743 --> 00:42:26,678 -The Marines had war dogs. 634 00:42:26,678 --> 00:42:29,781 Those war dogs, every one of them was a hero. 635 00:42:29,781 --> 00:42:32,483 I wouldn't want to go back into combat again if I didn't 636 00:42:32,483 --> 00:42:33,585 have one of those dogs. 637 00:42:33,585 --> 00:42:34,485 -I had dogs. 638 00:42:34,485 --> 00:42:35,520 They were family dogs. 639 00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:36,688 They didn't come from kennels. 640 00:42:36,688 --> 00:42:38,824 They didn't have any police training. 641 00:42:38,824 --> 00:42:41,259 They were just from the average family that wanted to 642 00:42:41,259 --> 00:42:45,030 help the war effort by enlisting their dog into the 643 00:42:45,030 --> 00:42:46,231 Marine Corps. 644 00:42:46,231 --> 00:42:48,133 -They have senses that we don't possess. 645 00:42:48,133 --> 00:42:50,702 They can hear things, smell things that 646 00:42:50,702 --> 00:42:53,004 we never knew existed. 647 00:42:53,004 --> 00:42:55,573 -You watched that dog when he was working. 648 00:42:55,573 --> 00:42:56,742 You could watch his tail. 649 00:42:56,742 --> 00:42:58,309 You could watch his head. 650 00:42:58,309 --> 00:43:00,345 And he'd pick up the scent. 651 00:43:00,345 --> 00:43:03,014 And he'd go after them. 652 00:43:03,014 --> 00:43:06,151 -The dogs and the men were together all of the time, and 653 00:43:06,151 --> 00:43:07,719 particularly when in combat, they were 654 00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:09,520 together 24 hours a day. 655 00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:10,889 -They ate together. 656 00:43:10,889 --> 00:43:13,058 He would give him a drink out of his canteen. 657 00:43:13,058 --> 00:43:15,393 They ate out of the same mess kit. 658 00:43:15,393 --> 00:43:19,197 -I've seen men when their dogs got killed, they'd take the 659 00:43:19,197 --> 00:43:22,600 bloody body of the dog in their arms and rock them back 660 00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:24,035 and forth, and tears would come in their eyes. 661 00:43:24,035 --> 00:43:28,006 They'd just lost not only a dear friend, but perhaps 662 00:43:28,006 --> 00:43:32,043 somebody they considered had saved their lives. 663 00:43:59,805 --> 00:44:02,941 -The Japanese were very crafty about crawling around, and 664 00:44:02,941 --> 00:44:05,944 crawling in the foxholes and slitting your throat at night. 665 00:44:05,944 --> 00:44:09,047 -Just the idea that somebody's crawling around out there that 666 00:44:09,047 --> 00:44:12,751 can do this to you, you know, you don't get much rest. 667 00:44:12,751 --> 00:44:14,352 -You could hear a guy, oh, I'm hit. 668 00:44:14,352 --> 00:44:16,254 Oh, I'm hit. 669 00:44:16,254 --> 00:44:18,757 And you couldn't do nothing. 670 00:44:18,757 --> 00:44:20,959 -We had a password on the island. 671 00:44:20,959 --> 00:44:24,362 And it was usually a word that the Japanese could not 672 00:44:24,362 --> 00:44:25,831 pronounce properly. 673 00:44:25,831 --> 00:44:29,334 -Like "clear weather" or "clear day." And that would be 674 00:44:29,334 --> 00:44:30,635 the password for the night. 675 00:44:30,635 --> 00:44:32,871 Every night, we had a different password. 676 00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:44,615 -One of them may try to trick us because they'd learn a 677 00:44:44,615 --> 00:44:45,817 little English. 678 00:44:45,817 --> 00:44:48,053 And he said, how'd you make out, Joe? 679 00:44:48,053 --> 00:44:49,888 And of course, our Sergeant knew that that wasn't one of 680 00:44:49,888 --> 00:44:53,892 us, and so he mowed him down with a Tommy gun. 681 00:45:00,231 --> 00:45:04,069 -Come daylight, just very earliest glimmer of daylight, 682 00:45:04,069 --> 00:45:07,105 the island was littered with the dead from the day before 683 00:45:07,105 --> 00:45:09,707 with a hand sticking up here and a foot sticking up there, 684 00:45:09,707 --> 00:45:12,778 and one that hit me the most that I remember was a friend 685 00:45:12,778 --> 00:45:15,280 of mine who was buried. 686 00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:18,149 Most of his face was sticking up, and then his body was 687 00:45:18,149 --> 00:45:20,752 buried, and the shoulder was sticking up. 688 00:45:20,752 --> 00:45:24,655 And with the waves coming in, he was right at water's edge, 689 00:45:24,655 --> 00:45:29,895 and an arm moving with the water like this. 690 00:45:29,895 --> 00:45:33,398 And I remember thinking, he's beckoning me 691 00:45:33,398 --> 00:45:35,066 to join him in death. 692 00:46:36,895 --> 00:46:39,898 -I found one of my Sergeants lying there with a leg so 693 00:46:39,898 --> 00:46:42,667 badly wounded I thought he'd lose it. 694 00:46:42,667 --> 00:46:46,704 And he said to, captain, please help me. 695 00:46:46,704 --> 00:46:50,375 And I said, Len, I'll give you a shot of morphine, 696 00:46:50,375 --> 00:46:51,877 then I've got to go. 697 00:46:51,877 --> 00:46:54,245 Because I'd been trained, as all Marine officers were 698 00:46:54,245 --> 00:46:56,982 trained, that when you have a single casualty like that, you 699 00:46:56,982 --> 00:47:00,385 give him quick attention and call for somebody else to 700 00:47:00,385 --> 00:47:01,519 come, and then you go. 701 00:47:01,519 --> 00:47:03,154 Because after all, I had another 220 702 00:47:03,154 --> 00:47:04,489 Marines to worry about. 703 00:47:04,489 --> 00:47:08,326 -Oh my god, here I am, I'm facing Japs three 704 00:47:08,326 --> 00:47:09,594 or four feet away. 705 00:47:09,594 --> 00:47:11,429 And I can't fire anymore. 706 00:47:11,429 --> 00:47:14,265 But as I'm looking down in my rifle and seeing about trying 707 00:47:14,265 --> 00:47:18,336 to unjam this thing, I'm seeing grenades to my right. 708 00:47:18,336 --> 00:47:22,507 So I dove for them and covered them with my body, shoving the 709 00:47:22,507 --> 00:47:26,878 grenades into volcanic ash to try to save the lives of the 710 00:47:26,878 --> 00:47:29,981 three buddies that are with me. 711 00:47:29,981 --> 00:47:33,251 And it blew me over on my back. 712 00:47:33,251 --> 00:47:34,252 My guys left me. 713 00:47:34,252 --> 00:47:35,820 They thought I was dead. 714 00:47:35,820 --> 00:47:38,156 Another outfit moving up was covering me. 715 00:47:38,156 --> 00:47:40,959 They picked me up, and they took me on back to this place 716 00:47:40,959 --> 00:47:46,364 where a lot of others were lying down on cots wounded. 717 00:47:46,364 --> 00:47:49,867 Later, I woke up when they were moving to a big hospital 718 00:47:49,867 --> 00:47:52,637 ship headed back to Honolulu. 719 00:47:52,637 --> 00:47:57,342 -My radio man was a 6' 2" cowboy, Avery. 720 00:47:57,342 --> 00:47:59,210 And we went out on patrol. 721 00:47:59,210 --> 00:48:03,014 A Japanese shell landed right next to us. 722 00:48:03,014 --> 00:48:05,450 And it cut Avery's leg off at the groin. 723 00:48:05,450 --> 00:48:07,953 He did not lose consciousness. 724 00:48:07,953 --> 00:48:09,820 There was no way to put a tourniquet on it. 725 00:48:09,820 --> 00:48:11,856 And cradled his own leg. 726 00:48:11,856 --> 00:48:14,192 And he kept saying to me, do something. 727 00:48:14,192 --> 00:48:15,793 I sat with him until he died. 728 00:48:44,255 --> 00:48:50,828 -You soon learn that you're going to lose your buddies. 729 00:48:50,828 --> 00:48:53,531 The question was which ones and when, and when's it going 730 00:48:53,531 --> 00:48:54,966 to be your turn? 731 00:48:54,966 --> 00:48:59,971 -When it was your buddy, you would sit down and cry. 732 00:48:59,971 --> 00:49:01,906 It really was tough on you. 733 00:49:01,906 --> 00:49:04,442 You hated to have to go off and leave his body. 734 00:49:15,020 --> 00:49:18,990 -If your buddy gets killed, you've got to have a 735 00:49:18,990 --> 00:49:22,460 detachment there and to say, well, it's just a 736 00:49:22,460 --> 00:49:23,761 thing in the war. 737 00:49:23,761 --> 00:49:26,231 I really had nothing to do with it. 738 00:49:26,231 --> 00:49:29,900 Because if you let it eat your guts out, then you're 739 00:49:29,900 --> 00:49:32,070 endangering your own life. 740 00:49:32,070 --> 00:49:35,440 You've got to be practical about it. 741 00:49:57,195 --> 00:49:59,930 -We went there to kill Japanese, and that's what we 742 00:49:59,930 --> 00:50:00,998 were doing. 743 00:50:00,998 --> 00:50:02,533 And they were trying to kill us. 744 00:50:02,533 --> 00:50:06,604 And people were getting blown to pieces on the beach, I mean 745 00:50:06,604 --> 00:50:08,273 evaporating some of the bodies. 746 00:50:08,273 --> 00:50:10,675 They were direct hits. 747 00:50:10,675 --> 00:50:12,210 What are you going to do about that? 748 00:50:12,210 --> 00:50:14,412 Are you going to lie down on the beach and cry about it? 749 00:50:14,412 --> 00:50:17,382 Back out, and get out in the water, swim back to the boat? 750 00:50:17,382 --> 00:50:19,084 You came there to fight. 751 00:50:19,084 --> 00:50:20,718 -It's either kill or be killed. 752 00:50:20,718 --> 00:50:21,919 And there's no joke about it. 753 00:50:21,919 --> 00:50:24,355 There's no use in trying to dress it up. 754 00:50:27,192 --> 00:50:31,762 -Didn't worry about who he was or how many kids he had, who 755 00:50:31,762 --> 00:50:34,031 his grand daddy was. 756 00:50:34,031 --> 00:50:37,034 He was just somebody to blow somebody and save myself. 757 00:50:41,739 --> 00:50:44,008 -When I pulled the trigger, it was a target. 758 00:50:44,008 --> 00:50:47,412 It was afterwards that the impact of what I'd done, taken 759 00:50:47,412 --> 00:50:48,879 a life that-- 760 00:50:53,818 --> 00:50:55,120 that things started coming back to me. 761 00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:56,854 And then, I thought about them. 762 00:50:56,854 --> 00:51:04,795 -The hate in you begins to dissipate because you realize 763 00:51:04,795 --> 00:51:07,064 you've taken somebody's life. 764 00:51:07,064 --> 00:51:11,702 And it affects you. 765 00:51:11,702 --> 00:51:12,737 -I had to talk to somebody. 766 00:51:12,737 --> 00:51:15,273 And I talked to our sergeant. 767 00:51:15,273 --> 00:51:17,775 And he said, well, you get used to it after a while. 768 00:51:24,215 --> 00:51:25,616 That was an answer, I guess. 769 00:51:25,616 --> 00:51:27,485 You get used to it. 770 00:51:27,485 --> 00:51:30,821 I never did, never did get used to it. 771 00:51:30,821 --> 00:51:33,424 -Fourth of July, we had killed 350. 772 00:51:33,424 --> 00:51:35,326 I had three men wounded. 773 00:51:35,326 --> 00:51:38,229 And that is 350 dead bodies. 774 00:51:38,229 --> 00:51:42,833 And when the sun comes up, the gas in the body expands. 775 00:51:42,833 --> 00:51:46,371 And the bodies are covered with white maggots and black 776 00:51:46,371 --> 00:51:49,340 flies, and then you've got your cold ration and try to 777 00:51:49,340 --> 00:51:53,178 eat with the flies coming in and going in your mouth. 778 00:51:53,178 --> 00:51:58,048 And then, as the gas expanded, it would pass over the dead 779 00:51:58,048 --> 00:51:59,550 vocal cords. 780 00:51:59,550 --> 00:52:02,153 And you'd hear the sounds of these dead bodies making weird 781 00:52:02,153 --> 00:52:06,291 groans as the gas went over the cords. 782 00:53:20,164 --> 00:53:23,634 -We used to go to the caves with one of those bull horns 783 00:53:23,634 --> 00:53:25,936 with a speaker on it. 784 00:53:25,936 --> 00:53:29,874 -We went out there to see whether we might talk any of 785 00:53:29,874 --> 00:53:32,943 the Japanese into surrendering. 786 00:53:39,884 --> 00:53:42,553 -I don't think any of us had any hope we could 787 00:53:42,553 --> 00:53:45,256 get them out alive. 788 00:53:45,256 --> 00:53:46,524 But we thought we'd try. 789 00:53:46,524 --> 00:53:48,326 What've we got to lose? 790 00:53:48,326 --> 00:53:49,794 . 791 00:53:51,829 --> 00:53:53,664 Come on out, don't be afraid. 792 00:53:53,664 --> 00:53:55,232 Take off your uniform. 793 00:53:55,232 --> 00:53:57,902 -And we were saying, you fought honorably. 794 00:53:57,902 --> 00:54:01,772 We will take good care of you and your men. 795 00:55:27,358 --> 00:55:30,395 -People that got killed, we would come back later and pick 796 00:55:30,395 --> 00:55:32,096 up the remains. 797 00:55:32,096 --> 00:55:36,434 And that would be transferred to the rear area where a 798 00:55:36,434 --> 00:55:38,836 temporary cemetery was set up. 799 00:55:45,175 --> 00:55:47,612 -Before we loaded ship, they had a big 800 00:55:47,612 --> 00:55:50,415 ceremony at the cemetery. 801 00:55:50,415 --> 00:55:55,886 It was probably the most heart wrenching time of all. 802 00:55:55,886 --> 00:55:58,756 We all had an opportunity to go down and to view all the 803 00:55:58,756 --> 00:56:00,525 crosses, pick out our buddies. 804 00:56:03,694 --> 00:56:05,930 Then, a chaplain gave a service there. 805 00:56:05,930 --> 00:56:08,966 And it was the most solemn scene of the whole operation. 806 00:56:30,020 --> 00:56:34,525 -We went aboard ship and were told that it would be a 807 00:56:34,525 --> 00:56:36,727 beautiful meal for all of us. 808 00:56:36,727 --> 00:56:39,830 -The bakers had baked a fresh loaf of bread the 809 00:56:39,830 --> 00:56:41,398 night we got there. 810 00:56:41,398 --> 00:56:44,001 And another buddy of mine went over and got this wonderful 811 00:56:44,001 --> 00:56:47,805 loaf of bread, you know, hot out of the oven. 812 00:56:47,805 --> 00:56:50,775 And I never had anything as good in my life as just a 813 00:56:50,775 --> 00:56:52,309 plain old loaf of white bread. 814 00:56:52,309 --> 00:56:53,911 But I'll tell you, it was good. 815 00:56:53,911 --> 00:56:58,315 -That's when we learned that President Roosevelt had died. 816 00:56:58,315 --> 00:57:03,353 -On April 12, 1945, President Franklin Roosevelt died. 817 00:57:03,353 --> 00:57:06,457 For most of the fighting men, he was the only president they 818 00:57:06,457 --> 00:57:07,892 had ever known. 819 00:57:07,892 --> 00:57:10,595 Now, Harry S Truman, the vice president, 820 00:57:10,595 --> 00:57:11,796 became their leader. 821 00:57:11,796 --> 00:57:15,065 And the ending of this war fell to him. 822 00:57:18,836 --> 00:57:22,507 -So they took us way back to our base in Hawaii on the 823 00:57:22,507 --> 00:57:26,010 island of Hawaii, and we reformed there and were 824 00:57:26,010 --> 00:57:27,945 getting ready for the next operation, which would have 825 00:57:27,945 --> 00:57:30,014 been landing on Japan mainland. 826 00:57:30,014 --> 00:57:33,984 -Well, the plan was to land a large number of Marine and 827 00:57:33,984 --> 00:57:38,288 Army divisions on the west coast of Kyushu, Japan on 1 828 00:57:38,288 --> 00:57:39,757 November, 1945. 829 00:57:39,757 --> 00:57:43,728 -There were going to be millions of people involved in 830 00:57:43,728 --> 00:57:47,765 this because we knew the Japanese, they'd used their 831 00:57:47,765 --> 00:57:52,169 women, the children, anybody to kill us. 832 00:58:05,215 --> 00:58:08,686 -They were digging out foxholes all across Japan. 833 00:58:08,686 --> 00:58:11,055 They had brought their best troops back into Japan to 834 00:58:11,055 --> 00:58:14,491 defend the home island, and it was going to be just this 835 00:58:14,491 --> 00:58:16,360 horrendous battle. 836 00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:18,462 -It never happened. 837 00:58:18,462 --> 00:58:20,665 And of course the reason it never happened is because of 838 00:58:20,665 --> 00:58:23,233 the atomic bomb. 839 00:58:23,233 --> 00:58:27,071 -The culmination of the American production process in 840 00:58:27,071 --> 00:58:30,007 the Second World War was the atomic bomb, which the 841 00:58:30,007 --> 00:58:33,678 Americans had started working on in 1942 and had completed 842 00:58:33,678 --> 00:58:36,346 by the summer of 1945. 843 00:58:36,346 --> 00:58:38,215 And President Truman ordered it used. 844 00:58:41,318 --> 00:58:44,622 -Where we now, of course, is the bomb pits where the atomic 845 00:58:44,622 --> 00:58:47,357 weapons were loaded on the B-29s. 846 00:58:47,357 --> 00:58:50,995 -This is where Paul Tibbets took off in the B-29 that he 847 00:58:50,995 --> 00:58:53,998 named Enola Gay for the bomb at Hiroshima. 848 00:58:53,998 --> 00:58:58,769 And it came up out of the pit right here, and then Tibbets 849 00:58:58,769 --> 00:59:00,237 flew that mission. 850 00:59:04,141 --> 00:59:08,278 -I put out of my mind anything that had to do with morality, 851 00:59:08,278 --> 00:59:10,214 religion, or anything like that. 852 00:59:10,214 --> 00:59:12,182 War is hell. 853 00:59:12,182 --> 00:59:14,184 And I wanted to get the killing over with 854 00:59:14,184 --> 00:59:17,487 as fast as I could. 855 00:59:17,487 --> 00:59:19,456 The airplane was quiet. 856 00:59:19,456 --> 00:59:21,058 Normally, you'd fly with a crew. 857 00:59:21,058 --> 00:59:23,460 They were telling dirty jokes and all of that. 858 00:59:23,460 --> 00:59:25,062 There was none of that this time. 859 00:59:25,062 --> 00:59:29,066 There was dead silence because they were all determined, just 860 00:59:29,066 --> 00:59:34,104 as I was, to get that bomb on the target for what good we 861 00:59:34,104 --> 00:59:35,472 thought it might do. 862 00:59:35,472 --> 00:59:37,241 And I thought the first day that I heard there was that 863 00:59:37,241 --> 00:59:41,078 weapon that if we could do, we'd certainly help the war 864 00:59:41,078 --> 00:59:42,780 effort along. 865 00:59:42,780 --> 00:59:45,482 I could see over the instrument panel 866 00:59:45,482 --> 00:59:47,317 beyond it was Hiroshima. 867 00:59:57,261 --> 00:59:58,829 I didn't see it. 868 00:59:58,829 --> 01:00:02,499 All I saw was the sky light up in front of me, a beautiful 869 01:00:02,499 --> 01:00:04,201 pink and red color. 870 01:00:07,237 --> 01:00:09,640 And in the end, there were three and a half square miles 871 01:00:09,640 --> 01:00:12,476 of Hiroshima devastated in one blow. 872 01:00:12,476 --> 01:00:14,311 That's how terrific it was. 873 01:00:18,415 --> 01:00:21,418 Rest of the trip going back, everybody was relaxed. 874 01:00:21,418 --> 01:00:23,020 Tension was over with. 875 01:00:23,020 --> 01:00:27,491 I told Bob Lewis, my co-pilot, I said, you take it over. 876 01:00:27,491 --> 01:00:28,926 Let autopilot fly it. 877 01:00:28,926 --> 01:00:30,728 I'm going to get a couple hours of sleep, and that's 878 01:00:30,728 --> 01:00:32,162 what I did. 879 01:00:32,162 --> 01:00:35,232 -All of a sudden, the report came in about 880 01:00:35,232 --> 01:00:38,002 the bomb over Hiroshima. 881 01:00:38,002 --> 01:00:41,205 And we just sat there in stunned silence. 882 01:00:41,205 --> 01:00:43,273 -And of course, we cheered and had our 883 01:00:43,273 --> 01:00:45,009 little, you know, rejoicing. 884 01:00:45,009 --> 01:00:46,977 -But the next day, we were right training just like we 885 01:00:46,977 --> 01:00:50,314 were going to keep going because nobody had said it's 886 01:00:50,314 --> 01:00:51,348 over. 887 01:00:51,348 --> 01:00:52,883 -There was a feeling in Japan. 888 01:00:52,883 --> 01:00:54,685 Well, the Americans dropped this atomic bomb on Hiroshima. 889 01:00:54,685 --> 01:00:55,986 But we're going to continue. 890 01:00:55,986 --> 01:00:57,988 Hiroshima is not a military target. 891 01:00:57,988 --> 01:01:01,158 The Americans did not weaken our military strength with the 892 01:01:01,158 --> 01:01:02,559 bomb on Hiroshima. 893 01:01:02,559 --> 01:01:05,129 We're going to continue to fight on. 894 01:01:05,129 --> 01:01:07,131 And Truman decided, we're going to go ahead with a 895 01:01:07,131 --> 01:01:09,734 second bomb. 896 01:02:34,952 --> 01:02:40,858 -And at that point, the Japanese military 897 01:02:40,858 --> 01:02:43,293 just had to give up. 898 01:02:43,293 --> 01:02:45,562 We can't do anything against atomic bombs. 899 01:02:45,562 --> 01:02:47,965 We can meet Marines at the beaches. 900 01:02:47,965 --> 01:02:50,835 We've got an air force left that can go out there with the 901 01:02:50,835 --> 01:02:53,337 kamikazes and sink a lot of American ships. 902 01:02:53,337 --> 01:02:56,173 We can force them to pay a terribly high price if they 903 01:02:56,173 --> 01:02:57,741 want to invade Japan. 904 01:02:57,741 --> 01:02:59,476 But what the hell were they going to do 905 01:02:59,476 --> 01:03:00,945 about an atomic bomb? 906 01:03:00,945 --> 01:03:02,813 -And many people have debated the use of that 907 01:03:02,813 --> 01:03:04,348 bomb over the years. 908 01:03:04,348 --> 01:03:07,084 But I would say that probably it was the best decision ever 909 01:03:07,084 --> 01:03:10,787 made because we would have lost many, many, many men, 910 01:03:10,787 --> 01:03:13,523 over a million probably would have been lost, in trying to 911 01:03:13,523 --> 01:03:15,125 invade Japan. 912 01:03:23,033 --> 01:03:28,005 -The treachery that Japan had thrown upon us, I had no pity 913 01:03:28,005 --> 01:03:30,440 and still don't have no pity for the Japanese. 914 01:03:52,229 --> 01:03:55,165 -Tell them if they had never been at Pearl Harbor, there 915 01:03:55,165 --> 01:03:58,835 had never been a Hiroshima and a Nagasaki. 916 01:03:58,835 --> 01:04:04,374 So we did that to save lives, not only of Americans, but of 917 01:04:04,374 --> 01:04:06,276 millions of Japanese. 918 01:04:06,276 --> 01:04:08,245 -I think it was a mistake. 919 01:04:08,245 --> 01:04:15,385 I think it could have been demonstrated elsewhere without 920 01:04:15,385 --> 01:04:16,954 harming people. 921 01:04:16,954 --> 01:04:21,125 -A demonstration bombing with the atomic bomb would have 922 01:04:21,125 --> 01:04:25,195 been rather futile because I don't believe the nature of 923 01:04:25,195 --> 01:04:29,533 the Japanese would have yielded to anything less than 924 01:04:29,533 --> 01:04:34,004 a holocaust that we put on Japan. 925 01:04:46,250 --> 01:04:49,853 -I've been asked time and again, don't you feel terrible 926 01:04:49,853 --> 01:04:52,689 about killing all those people? 927 01:04:52,689 --> 01:04:54,158 No, I don't feel terrible. 928 01:04:54,158 --> 01:04:56,493 I'm sorry that they were there and had to be killed. 929 01:04:56,493 --> 01:04:59,029 But what had to be done was bigger than those people, 930 01:04:59,029 --> 01:05:02,066 bigger than me. 931 01:05:02,066 --> 01:05:07,437 -It ended the war, and it brought us home-- 932 01:05:07,437 --> 01:05:10,407 what was left of us, yeah. 933 01:05:15,012 --> 01:05:17,681 -The surrender took place in Tokyo Harbor on 934 01:05:17,681 --> 01:05:19,383 the battleship Missouri. 935 01:05:19,383 --> 01:05:28,825 -Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that 936 01:05:28,825 --> 01:05:33,097 god will preserve it always. 937 01:05:35,299 --> 01:05:40,104 -The end of the war was like a load taken off your chest that 938 01:05:40,104 --> 01:05:42,639 everything was going to be OK now. 939 01:05:42,639 --> 01:05:47,044 Won the war, everything's going to be OK. 940 01:05:54,351 --> 01:05:57,887 -VJ Day, as it was called, Victory over Japan Day, when 941 01:05:57,887 --> 01:06:03,293 they surrendered, led to the biggest celebration America 942 01:06:03,293 --> 01:06:05,662 has every known. 943 01:06:05,662 --> 01:06:09,199 Crowds were just filling the skyscrapers and 944 01:06:09,199 --> 01:06:10,467 throwing out confetti. 945 01:06:41,831 --> 01:06:43,767 -And I was trusting that my husband would be one of them 946 01:06:43,767 --> 01:06:45,835 that would get to come home. 947 01:06:45,835 --> 01:06:49,439 And what a great day when he did come in. 948 01:06:49,439 --> 01:06:52,709 -We pulled into San Diego Harbor. 949 01:06:52,709 --> 01:06:57,281 There was a huge, huge sign that said "Welcome Home," and 950 01:06:57,281 --> 01:07:00,850 for the next seven days, they fed us like kings. 951 01:07:00,850 --> 01:07:02,352 -I had been injured. 952 01:07:02,352 --> 01:07:04,454 And when I came home, my mom, you know, she grabbed me and 953 01:07:04,454 --> 01:07:08,525 was feeling me all over to see if I had any missing parts. 954 01:07:08,525 --> 01:07:11,728 And she was so happy that I was in one piece. 955 01:07:11,728 --> 01:07:13,563 -My dad met me at the train station. 956 01:07:13,563 --> 01:07:17,067 And I was as brown as a brown paper sack. 957 01:07:17,067 --> 01:07:18,702 And I saw my dad there. 958 01:07:18,702 --> 01:07:22,172 And he was looking around trying to find me amongst all 959 01:07:22,172 --> 01:07:23,573 the other passengers. 960 01:07:23,573 --> 01:07:27,111 And I walked up to him and looked him in the eye. 961 01:07:27,111 --> 01:07:30,447 And he looked around me, you know? 962 01:07:30,447 --> 01:07:32,316 I said, he don't know me. 963 01:07:32,316 --> 01:07:34,151 He just doesn't know me. 964 01:07:34,151 --> 01:07:36,386 So I walked around him and walked up to him behind him 965 01:07:36,386 --> 01:07:39,423 and tapped him on the shoulder. 966 01:07:39,423 --> 01:07:40,890 I said, it's me. 967 01:07:45,895 --> 01:07:47,030 He-- 968 01:07:47,030 --> 01:07:50,100 he grabbed me and gave me a big hug. 969 01:07:50,100 --> 01:07:53,537 -My brother came back from the service. 970 01:07:53,537 --> 01:07:56,573 He wanted to see his parents, of course. 971 01:07:56,573 --> 01:07:59,509 So he came to the internment camp. 972 01:07:59,509 --> 01:08:04,681 And it was after hours, and he could only touch my mother 973 01:08:04,681 --> 01:08:06,850 through the barbed wire fence. 974 01:08:06,850 --> 01:08:09,786 -My father and mother remained in camp until 975 01:08:09,786 --> 01:08:11,054 the end of the war. 976 01:08:11,054 --> 01:08:15,492 They didn't know where to go, what to do. 977 01:08:15,492 --> 01:08:18,728 They heard that a few who tried to get back 978 01:08:18,728 --> 01:08:21,865 had very bad reception. 979 01:08:21,865 --> 01:08:27,137 Their homes were burned down, or they were chased out. 980 01:08:27,137 --> 01:08:32,942 -I received the Navy Cross in San Francisco, California. 981 01:08:32,942 --> 01:08:37,847 That night, they came and took the-- 982 01:08:37,847 --> 01:08:42,118 took the document from me because I was black. 983 01:08:42,118 --> 01:08:44,788 And black steward's mates weren't 984 01:08:44,788 --> 01:08:46,390 supposed to get Navy Crosses. 985 01:08:49,826 --> 01:08:52,796 -The Medal of Honor is the highest decoration awarded by 986 01:08:52,796 --> 01:08:54,898 the United States government. 987 01:08:54,898 --> 01:08:56,733 The President of the United States is the one that 988 01:08:56,733 --> 01:08:58,968 decorated me at the White House. 989 01:08:58,968 --> 01:09:02,606 I stepped forward to, Jack Lucas. 990 01:09:02,606 --> 01:09:05,108 I had Truman hang that medal around my neck. 991 01:09:07,411 --> 01:09:10,814 And he says, I'd rather have this medal than be President 992 01:09:10,814 --> 01:09:12,182 of the United States. 993 01:09:12,182 --> 01:09:14,251 I said, sir, I'll swap you. 994 01:09:14,251 --> 01:09:15,885 He just laughed. 995 01:09:15,885 --> 01:09:20,757 -So it was great to be in the United States of America and 996 01:09:20,757 --> 01:09:29,999 to be welcomed and for them to tell us job well done. 997 01:10:00,029 --> 01:10:03,267 -Japan immediately became a part of the American 998 01:10:03,267 --> 01:10:05,101 anti-communist alliance. 999 01:10:05,101 --> 01:10:08,238 And the Americans went into Japan with Douglas MacArthur 1000 01:10:08,238 --> 01:10:12,409 as the head of the occupation to bring about a democracy in 1001 01:10:12,409 --> 01:10:15,078 Japan, to re-shape Japan. 1002 01:11:10,900 --> 01:11:13,470 -Some of these hills you're looking at here haven't 1003 01:11:13,470 --> 01:11:14,804 changed, have they? 1004 01:11:14,804 --> 01:11:16,706 -The hills didn't change, but there was no-- 1005 01:11:16,706 --> 01:11:17,674 -No trees or-- 1006 01:11:17,674 --> 01:11:18,642 -There was no property. 1007 01:11:18,642 --> 01:11:20,176 There was nothing. 1008 01:11:20,877 --> 01:11:22,346 -Nothing left, no. 1009 01:11:22,346 --> 01:11:25,214 -The importance of going back to Okinawa with my family was 1010 01:11:25,214 --> 01:11:29,719 to show them where their uncle was killed and to show them 1011 01:11:29,719 --> 01:11:30,987 where I fought. 1012 01:11:30,987 --> 01:11:32,989 -This is Kunishi Ridge off to the right. 1013 01:11:32,989 --> 01:11:36,826 -Well, there's a road that goes across the valley there. 1014 01:11:36,826 --> 01:11:39,363 You can drive up on the edge of the ridge. 1015 01:11:47,103 --> 01:11:50,674 -My brother was fighting on Kunishi Ridge. 1016 01:11:50,674 --> 01:11:56,112 He was only 200 yards from me where he was killed. 1017 01:11:56,112 --> 01:11:59,182 -Standing at Kunishi Ridge, I can envision in my mind the 1018 01:11:59,182 --> 01:12:01,385 battles because I saw the newsreels. 1019 01:12:01,385 --> 01:12:05,555 And I can see my husband, a young man, fighting through 1020 01:12:05,555 --> 01:12:09,559 the war and knowing that at any moment, he 1021 01:12:09,559 --> 01:12:11,027 could have been killed. 1022 01:12:12,596 --> 01:12:17,567 What courageous young men we had to fight and 1023 01:12:17,567 --> 01:12:19,903 risk their own life. 1024 01:12:19,903 --> 01:12:23,407 -We went to the memorial gardens with the granite 1025 01:12:23,407 --> 01:12:27,377 stones that have everyone's name written there that died 1026 01:12:27,377 --> 01:12:29,045 on Okinawa, or off Okinawa. 1027 01:12:33,917 --> 01:12:38,354 And my children took a rubbing on the stones of the name of 1028 01:12:38,354 --> 01:12:40,557 my brother. 1029 01:12:40,557 --> 01:12:44,894 To be able to have my children there and for us as a family 1030 01:12:44,894 --> 01:12:48,364 to experience that was the most rewarding part of the 1031 01:12:48,364 --> 01:12:51,701 whole trip to Okinawa. 1032 01:12:51,701 --> 01:12:56,372 -A dead soldier is a basic hero, I think. 1033 01:13:00,243 --> 01:13:04,147 A man that died for his country, he's the one 1034 01:13:04,147 --> 01:13:06,483 who's a real hero. 1035 01:13:22,365 --> 01:13:26,102 -It's a great sacrifice to personally give his life. 1036 01:13:26,102 --> 01:13:29,873 And for those young men and women who had so much to look 1037 01:13:29,873 --> 01:13:33,610 forward to, and now are gone. 1038 01:13:33,610 --> 01:13:36,412 I just hope that people never forget what 1039 01:13:36,412 --> 01:13:38,081 they did for freedom. 1040 01:13:40,216 --> 01:13:43,753 -That's the part that really hurts me is the young guys 1041 01:13:43,753 --> 01:13:45,388 that never had a chance at life. 1042 01:14:56,092 --> 01:15:02,198 -On December 7 of 1991, a group of the Japanese pilots 1043 01:15:02,198 --> 01:15:06,369 from various different ships, and I think there was about 24 1044 01:15:06,369 --> 01:15:07,403 of them, came. 1045 01:15:07,403 --> 01:15:08,738 And then, I met Mr. Abi. 1046 01:15:08,738 --> 01:15:11,207 And we were kind of drawn to one another for 1047 01:15:11,207 --> 01:15:13,076 some unknown reason. 1048 01:15:19,048 --> 01:15:21,484 -He was a bomber pilot off of the 1049 01:15:21,484 --> 01:15:23,219 aircraft carrier the Akaki. 1050 01:15:23,219 --> 01:15:26,823 And he bombed our ship. 1051 01:15:26,823 --> 01:15:29,458 So we were saying our last goodbyes at the hotel. 1052 01:15:29,458 --> 01:15:31,728 And he says, Richard-san, please do me 1053 01:15:31,728 --> 01:15:33,329 this special favor. 1054 01:15:33,329 --> 01:15:37,166 He said, would you please buy two roses, one rose for me and 1055 01:15:37,166 --> 01:15:38,568 one for you? 1056 01:15:38,568 --> 01:15:40,604 Would you please go out to the Arizona and 1057 01:15:40,604 --> 01:15:42,071 play "Taps" for me? 1058 01:15:44,540 --> 01:15:49,512 And I've been doing that every month since 1991. 1059 01:15:49,512 --> 01:15:53,983 And he keeps replenishing me with money. 1060 01:16:40,830 --> 01:16:45,601 -What you'll find if you talk to old veterans, they don't 1061 01:16:45,601 --> 01:16:51,174 talk about their war experiences to their families. 1062 01:16:51,174 --> 01:16:54,177 When these fellows get together on reunions of this 1063 01:16:54,177 --> 01:16:57,947 kind, they exchange war stories with each other 1064 01:16:57,947 --> 01:17:00,516 confident that both parties understand what they're 1065 01:17:00,516 --> 01:17:01,918 talking about. 1066 01:17:03,352 --> 01:17:05,722 -Oh, my goodness! 1067 01:17:05,722 --> 01:17:08,291 I finally kissed a nurse. 1068 01:17:08,291 --> 01:17:10,727 I kissed a nurse, first time! 1069 01:17:10,727 --> 01:17:13,730 -I go to the Marine conventions every few years to 1070 01:17:13,730 --> 01:17:16,099 stay in touch with old friends. 1071 01:17:16,099 --> 01:17:19,035 And we like to keep those friendships going because we 1072 01:17:19,035 --> 01:17:22,605 did have three years at least together under very dire 1073 01:17:22,605 --> 01:17:24,073 circumstances. 1074 01:17:31,214 --> 01:17:35,218 -Well, the ones who returned to Iwo Jima will experience a 1075 01:17:35,218 --> 01:17:39,088 great emotional when they get down to an area that they 1076 01:17:39,088 --> 01:17:40,456 recognize on the island. 1077 01:17:43,459 --> 01:17:46,730 It really is an emotional experience to stand there and 1078 01:17:46,730 --> 01:17:49,866 think about what you were doing when you were there. 1079 01:17:49,866 --> 01:17:53,036 And it immediately brings on thoughts about your friends 1080 01:17:53,036 --> 01:17:54,570 that you lost. 1081 01:17:54,570 --> 01:18:01,044 So it's a matter of revisiting a difficult period in my life 1082 01:18:01,044 --> 01:18:03,713 and expressing appreciation for the fact that he 1083 01:18:03,713 --> 01:18:05,514 had to do it again. 1084 01:18:05,514 --> 01:18:07,817 -Hoorah! 1085 01:18:07,817 --> 01:18:10,019 That's the way you do it. 1086 01:18:10,019 --> 01:18:12,722 -I am a walking advertisement for the Corps, aren't I? 1087 01:18:12,722 --> 01:18:16,960 -Oh, you are the Marine Corps poster child here. 1088 01:18:16,960 --> 01:18:18,661 -I've been wanting to go back to Iwo Jima for 1089 01:18:18,661 --> 01:18:20,063 an awful long time. 1090 01:18:20,063 --> 01:18:24,333 I decided that I had to go now if I was ever going. 1091 01:18:24,333 --> 01:18:27,570 I'm looking forward to it sort of like looking forward to 1092 01:18:27,570 --> 01:18:29,072 going to the dentist. 1093 01:18:29,072 --> 01:18:33,109 I know it's something I must do, but I'm not really all 1094 01:18:33,109 --> 01:18:36,312 that eager to have that tooth pulled. 1095 01:18:36,312 --> 01:18:38,481 I know it's going to be painful. 1096 01:18:39,682 --> 01:18:41,885 One, two, three. 1097 01:18:41,885 --> 01:18:44,620 -Even three or four years from now, you'll be proud that you 1098 01:18:44,620 --> 01:18:46,555 were a Marine. 1099 01:18:46,555 --> 01:18:49,425 You will be proud if you're not already. 1100 01:18:49,425 --> 01:18:50,994 -Yes, sir. 1101 01:18:50,994 --> 01:18:54,030 -In particular, one of the things I want to see is the 1102 01:18:54,030 --> 01:18:56,732 top of Suribachi, where the flag was raised. 1103 01:19:01,670 --> 01:19:04,273 Down in there is where I spent most of my first day, just 1104 01:19:04,273 --> 01:19:09,979 right down there within 20 to 30 yards of the beach, of the 1105 01:19:09,979 --> 01:19:11,547 water's edge. 1106 01:19:11,547 --> 01:19:13,149 I wanted to see the beach. 1107 01:19:13,149 --> 01:19:15,184 And I understand that the beaches haven't changed. 1108 01:19:31,968 --> 01:19:35,371 -For over 50 years, I've had nightmares that 1109 01:19:35,371 --> 01:19:36,873 I just can't describe. 1110 01:19:39,475 --> 01:19:43,179 And I'm hoping to put these ghosts to rest. 1111 01:20:22,551 --> 01:20:23,519 Hoorah! 1112 01:20:23,519 --> 01:20:24,287 -Hoorah! 1113 01:20:24,287 --> 01:20:25,855 -There they go. 1114 01:20:25,855 --> 01:20:29,158 -Well, one of things I'm going back to Iwo Jima for is to 1115 01:20:29,158 --> 01:20:33,229 take my wife back there and let her see where I fought as 1116 01:20:33,229 --> 01:20:36,265 a very young man for the freedom of this country. 1117 01:20:36,265 --> 01:20:38,868 -Come on, Louis, let's get the picture of this over here. 1118 01:20:38,868 --> 01:20:40,436 Does anybody want to get in the picture? 1119 01:20:40,436 --> 01:20:41,704 Come on over here. 1120 01:20:41,704 --> 01:20:43,039 I want to have my picture made with you. 1121 01:20:43,039 --> 01:20:46,509 You already look gung ho and ready to go to war. 1122 01:20:46,509 --> 01:20:47,576 -Yes, sir. 1123 01:21:20,409 --> 01:21:27,850 -Now, I think maybe I'll be able to spend a year or two, 1124 01:21:27,850 --> 01:21:31,520 all of that sleep, without these nightmares. 1125 01:21:34,490 --> 01:21:37,927 Before I die, I can die a rested old man. 1126 01:21:41,397 --> 01:21:46,869 -I kiss you on the beach where I landed 56 years ago. 1127 01:22:23,572 --> 01:22:24,340 -17. 1128 01:22:24,340 --> 01:22:25,341 -I was 17, too. 1129 01:22:25,341 --> 01:22:26,575 -Mm-hm. 1130 01:22:26,575 --> 01:22:29,345 -Yeah. 1131 01:22:45,461 --> 01:22:48,564 -The loss that comes from those things, you can be sure 1132 01:22:48,564 --> 01:22:52,468 changes your attitude about things forever. 1133 01:22:52,468 --> 01:22:56,839 And those of us who are lucky enough to be here today know 1134 01:22:56,839 --> 01:22:58,441 that we're the luckiest of the lucky. 1135 01:23:07,816 --> 01:23:12,855 -Those of us who stood on this island in 1945 find it almost 1136 01:23:12,855 --> 01:23:17,926 unbelievable that we stand here together once again to 1137 01:23:17,926 --> 01:23:21,697 honor our fallen comrades. 1138 01:23:21,697 --> 01:23:24,300 We continue to ask for the comfort of their souls. 1139 01:23:24,300 --> 01:23:27,870 We seek relief for the sadness of their families. 1140 01:23:27,870 --> 01:23:31,340 May they now and forever more rest in peace. 1141 01:23:33,976 --> 01:23:35,244 -Right, face. 1142 01:23:38,314 --> 01:23:40,216 Right flank ammunition, load. 1143 01:23:45,154 --> 01:23:49,092 Ready, aim, fire. 1144 01:23:52,428 --> 01:23:57,500 Ready, aim, fire. 1145 01:24:01,337 --> 01:24:05,007 Ready, aim, fire. 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